July 28, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 07 28 26

The Bill Martinez Show 07 28 26
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The Bill Martinez Show 07 28 26
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Are you ready? Yeah, okay us do an Ill Martinez

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Live a program about current events, our culture, our values,

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our politics, and our future. And now Bill Martinez.

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Hey, good morning, welcome six minutes after the top of

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the hour. Right now Bill Martinez here with doctor Andrew Fox.

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He's an organizational culture expert, professor, priest, and author of

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the forthcoming book Truth in the Age of Applause. How

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stupidity is ruining the American dream? Oh you can say

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that again, doctor Fox. Good to have you with us.

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How are you, sir, Good to be with you.

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I'm doing great boy.

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Speaking of sociology, what a study here. I mean, I

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had a nun that would always tell us that stupidity

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meant when you know better and you still choose to

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do something, And that stayed with me for the longest time.

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I think you quoted bon Offer and had his approach

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that stupidity is defined by deed Rick bon offfer is

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not a lack of intelligen but the surrender of independent thinking.

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Yeah. Yeah, well, that's what I've been seeing happening over

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the country for the past ten years. It's not that

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people are unintelligent or without experience and knowledge, but they

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abdicate on their god given moral individual process of thinking.

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They abdicate on that just to go along with the ideology.

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And of course Dietrich Bonifert was speaking about the Third Reich,

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you know, of you German people, this is not right.

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You're just going along with the ideology. Now, I'm not

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saying the United States is anything like that, but the

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principle of it is, why are smart people, college professors,

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clergy there are so many that are qualified in what

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they do speaking like buffoons, you know, that's the only

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way to put it.

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Doctor. I think it's laziness. It's just outright laziness. I mean,

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I don't want to do my own homework. I'm just

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going to listen to talking heads because on this show,

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you know, I've asked people several times who told you?

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Who told you something so idiotic? And then it was

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bad enough that was idiotic to begin with, but then

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you picked it up like as if it was fact

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and there's no true substance behind it.

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I mean, take Sophie Cunningham, for instance, who, over the

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past few days has a beautiful athletic lady, a highly

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accomplished high achiever. She very casually and calmly said that

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she defends women's sports and trans gender should not be

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in women's sports. And the opposition she's got it's as

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though she touched, you know, the face of God and

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that was wrong. You know, it's atrocious to even have

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an opinion, which, of course you know more than I do,

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is our first amendment right, and to articulate that, either

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in writing words or something else. So, yeah, it's time

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to nail our colors to the mast and as they say,

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and state what we believe. And that's how my life

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has formed, and that's the direction it's taking.

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Well, you know, you mentioned the Third Reich and Adolf Hitler.

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I remind our audience that was only about ten percent

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of Germans that became Nazis, that engaged themselves in group thinks,

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siloed themselves into stupidity, rendered themselves near useless to the

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majority of the remaining ninety percent of Germans. And you know,

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followed a tyrannical leader that murdered people and the horror

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of his legacy is unbelievable, but it should be a

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reminder that it could happen to any of us.

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Well, look at the Democratic Party right now. It's divided

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right down the middle between traditional Democrats and socialist Democrats.

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And what they're doing is they're fighting for what I

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believe to be a generation gen Z that are politically

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not at home. They're unhoused, they're homeless politically, and so

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you've got smart people gen Z who have all kinds

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of entrepreneurial ways of communicating and making money, very different

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than the millennials, and the socialist Democrats are playing into that.

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And the surprise again is smart gen Z people that

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are politically homeless are buying into something like just wait,

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I think, what are you being told? Free homes, free utilities,

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free baby care, babysitting. It's in New York, it's in Seattle.

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You're seeing these socialists pop up everywhere. But they're playing

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towards people that have abdicated on their moral and individual

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thought against the same principle at play.

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Yes, exactly, And I would say you give them a

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lot more credit by saying it's split down the middle.

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I don't think it's split down the middle at all.

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I think, again, using what happened in Germany, it's just

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a very loud, small and seemingly powerful group of people

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in this particular case that's supported by the mainstream media

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that's giving them credibility. And you can shout somebody down.

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You know. You mentioned the WNBA player in Cunningham. You

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can shout her down, and you know, but I love

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her stance. And this is the thing, and you write

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about it in your book, is when your feet are

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solid on the truth. You know, Okay, fine, you can

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lie say whatever you want to say about me, but

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the truth isn't going to change is and I'm not

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going to abdicate my position on the truth.

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I'm glad you think like that. So glad you think

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like that, and I'm not surprised that you do. But

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you've got so many that don't. You've got two sides

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to this. You've got these minority socialist loud voices, and

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you correct, they are a minority, but they're loud and

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heavily funded. That's one thing to address. But then you've

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got the people that are responding positively to them. It's

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like going to the zoo and watching the zookeeper come

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out with a bucket of fresh fish and throwing it

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to the sea lions, and the sea lions will clap

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their hands, They'll do all kinds of tricks just to

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get some fish. That's the age old trick of socialism,

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which you know is communism as well, or at leads

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to communism. So my concern is not the to be honest,

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the lunatic voices of socialism in this country, like the

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governor of New York saying she wants to change the

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word mother to gestating parent. I mean, how insulting to

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you know, to a woman who's got the god given

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right to bring life into the world that me and

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you don't as men. It's just insulting. But lunacy, that's

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one thing. But you look at the crowds that are

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clapping like sea liings for fish. How then do we

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combat this? How do we help said people to think

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it through? I only think time is going to hell

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where people feel the pinch that the dictatorship that they

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follow in socialism enriches itself while those who follow it

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become impoverished and become all the same. And that ruins

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the very values of gen Z, which is authenticity and vigitalism,

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And so we all become the same. We're all it's

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George orwell, it's it's policing our speech, our language, and

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you know, changing words so quickly. So the two sides

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of it are the lunacy that's speaking it, but the

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mass crowds that are actually following this. I think there's

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a frustration there in that in that generation. You know

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it I know from my own work, is unaffordable housing

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for people getting out of college, college prices just skyrocketing.

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There's an unfairness in that. I'm not saying gen Z

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or a lazy people. I'm saying it's stacked against them.

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But what they're going for is certainly not the answer.

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Yeah, I think it's that proposition of a good observation

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wrong conclusion, because I think the bottom line of this,

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doctor Fox, at least what I've observed is after everything

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is all said and done, people don't want to be duped.

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You know, the Germans didn't want to be duped when

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they realized they were duped because of their silence and

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non participation and you know, going along to get along

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kind of deal. They were upset with themselves, but they

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were upset with you know, the party apparatcheck. And I

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think this is what the Democratic Party is setting itself

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up to because they're offering something they really can't provide.

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And what we're seeing is the tip of the iceberg.

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We're not looking underneath. We need to pull back, you know,

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the tide and that which is covering you know, the

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apparatchick that's driving this. You talked about outside money and

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outside influence, but also there's a bigger agenda that's underneath

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all this, just like there was with Nazison any other

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form of communism. We got to go a quick break.

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We'll pick it up on the other side. More from

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organizational cultural expert, Professor Priests and author of his forthcoming

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book The Truth in the Age of Applause. It's the

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applause of the seals. You know, the seals are applause

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plotting because you know, the more they applaud, the more

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fish they get. Right, and this is the reward the

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social experiment that continues to work. You give free stuff

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and people will respond to it without even realizing they're

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going into a death trap.

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Right, It's true. There is something in our human nature

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that likes something for free. If you get a new

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pizza place open up in the city of Austin, where

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I live in Texas, they may say from eleven o'clock

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in the morning till two o'clock, we're giving away free pizza.

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People will line up for hours just to get a

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piece of pizza. That's fun, that's a lot of fun.

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But this is on a different level completely. There are consequences.

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That's not just standing in line for a couple of

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hours or a free piece of pizza. That's fun, but

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it's the consequences are You've got to think beyond tomorrow

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morning's breakfast.

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Now.

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I used to teach in three prestigious universities before the diversity,

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equality and inclusion hit the whole thing. And of course,

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as a Caucasian Christian henr sexual man, I really didn't

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fit the bill, so I opted to come out. But

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critical thinking and persuasion and rhetoric are no longer offered

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at most universities, especially critical thinking and civil dialogue, the

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ability to discourse and not destroy your fellow human being.

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I think Ronald Reagan was terrific at that, and he

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used a great deal of humor. He wouldn't destroy his

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opponent and at the end of it they would shake hands.

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Unlike what we saw in the World Cup final with

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Spain and Argentina. You'd have thought two great teams, Spain one,

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they would have shaken hands, good sportsmanship. But no, there

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was altercations and so on many platforms, political, in the marketplace,

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in sports, and even in religion. You're seeing altercations that

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teach this young, good generation. This is the new civil dialogue,

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this is the new critical thinking. It is simply to react.

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You've got to think beyond tomorrow morning's breakfast. You've got

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to think to next year, the next five years, the

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next ten years. You watch the city of New York.

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Over the next five years, it will not be the

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same place that it is today. So then how do

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we teach how do we show an example to this

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next generation. That's what the book addresses.

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And I think part of it, though, is that New

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York is showing as an example to the next generation.

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What's going on here. Yes, it all sounds good. You know,

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you've got these government run stores, and it's like, wait

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a minute, it's not like nobody else has tried it out.

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In Kansas, they tried it, it failed miserably I mean,

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we're just saying here in the United States. Of course,

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internationally it's failed time and time again. You know, free buses.

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Oh yeah, we're gonna have free buses. Well, you know

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that's not happening, and you know it's not even and

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we're not even getting to that point. You know that

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Margaret Thatcher talked about about running out of They're already

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out of other people. They were out of other people's

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money to begin with.

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to to resurrect Margaret Thatcher and bring it back to

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Great Britain, where I come from. But what's happening in

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Great Britain. I think we will see here in the

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United States. I think the Democrats Socialists will form their

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own party. I do think there will be a third party.

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And you know, and I know there is plenty of

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money out there to fund such things that will simply

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want America to burn, which is George Soros is one

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of them.

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That's what That's what I'm saying, doctor Fox, what's underneath?

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You know, we're not seeing what's down beneath the glacier.

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We're just seeing the tip of the iceberg. We're not

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seeing down below and what you mentioned, he's just one

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of many that are there funding this, you know, the

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demise of this great American experiment.

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Yeah, you can't see that. Mon Damie in New York

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has actually won that election to be mayor on his

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own merit, along with his pinky gold rings and all

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kinds of things that he's into. The man's never had

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a real job, he's never had a supervisor, a boss,

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he's never gone into the workplace. So characters like that

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are the most malleable and pliable people that will sell

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their soul just to get in front of the camera

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and be elected. But as you say, it's what's behind them.

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It's like poets say, it's the song beneath the words,

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what is actually happening. And for me, as an immigrant

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that came into this country on a visa, got a

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permanent residence, and then I became a citizen of the

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United States, I'm a proud naturalized citizen. I want to

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show my ID when I go to vote because it

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cost me. I went through the process and proud to

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be here. And all these policies that are coming out

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are going to separate the Democrats into a two tier

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party or a completely different party. The socialist agenda affects policies,

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it affects identity, and it will definitely separate in my view,

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and I could be wrong from the traditional Democrats, and

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if it does, I think it'll come out. And if

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you pardon the expression, you know, your skirty is lifted

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and you can see what's happened.

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Of course, right, exactly, No, it's a civil war based

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on identity. You're exactly right. And the Democratic Socialists have

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just hijacked that party. And it's amazing to me how

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the moderates have kind of just I think they're just

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in shock. They just can't believe that it happened. They

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felt like they, oh, there's no way this could happen.

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That we have enough strength, and yeah, AOC will give

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her her due. We'll let her, you know, get in

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front of a camera and you know, let her exercise

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her charm, you know, like a snake, you know, dancing

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to the music of the flute. That's okay, But they

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didn't realize how dangerous she would be along with Bernie

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Sanders and the rest of him and mom Donnie with

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all his charm. I mean, look at look what Bill

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Clinton did to America with his I mean very charming man,

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Barack Obama. He won on charm. What was the substance?

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Again, it points to the audience, and again the book

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titled Truth in the Age of Applause. Applause does not

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make something true. You know, I used to have a

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full head of hair, and I don't any longer. In

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my mid thirties, I started to thin out, and so

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by the time I hate forty, I started to shave

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my head. This is a real time example. I took

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my daughter to get her hair done and as a

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pre thing before she got married, and I went to

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go pay for a hair that was all styled in everything,

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and the individual that I was talking to wasn't looking up,

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and they said to me, did you enjoy your experience today?

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I said, well, yes, are you pleased with the way

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your hair looks? And I look like this? And I said, well,

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I'm very pleased. And it went on and on for

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about thirty seconds. She never looked up. People around got

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the giggles. That is a comedy of the reality that

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we face today. Don't change women's names from mother to

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ges stating parent. Don't mess with the language like that.

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See you even see this on the Supreme Court in

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the month of June where a vote was taken about

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transgender in sports, and rightly so, I believe they put

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that back to the States, but they said this is

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we vote against trans in sports. The New States decide

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in their twenty nine states that say no trans in sports.

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But three dissenting justices, all female, voted for trans being

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in female sports. Now, if it was men, maybe you

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could understand, because they're men and they have no idea

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what it is to be a woman. But for three women,

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and one of them in her hearing, she was asked

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if she could justice Brown Jackson Brown if you find

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a woman, and she said, I'm not a biologist. All

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she needed to say was, don't be stupid. You're looking

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at one and you're listening to one, because I am one.

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And she would have got the world's attention for reality

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and common sense and so on every platform that you see,

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there is this undercurrent that leaves you thinking, what's fueling

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this lunacy that I cast stupidity right exactly.

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And you have the normalization of socialism and everything that

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goes with the package, which is scary and still I

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believe a majority of people are just going along to

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get along here because and I think this is kind

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of the disease of America in a general sense. De

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Tokeville referred to it as that, Hey, Americans are just

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good people. Yes, and I think we're good people. We

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want to think well of others, plain ice and that,

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but we need to understand that there needs to be boundaries.

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Didn't you see that though? In the World Cup where

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forty eight nations came to play soccer in the United

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States and in Mexico, you had people that were not

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funded paid for unsolicited comments posting all over social media

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saying America is great, but people are hospitable. I love

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my uber driver, taxi driver, I love my waitress. I

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get free refills and ice and air conditioning and buppies

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and these monster trucks and every and the world was

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applauding the common man in the United States. Now that

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warmed my heart because they were not being paid to

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do that. No one was asked, There was no agenda underneath,

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like we're talking about. That was just America is not

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what the mainstream media make it out to be, not

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only in the States but also in European countries. That negativity.

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So the power of the people again or we the people.

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We must keep talking about that because America is a

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great place to live. I've lived here twenty six years now.

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I'm flying the American flag outside my house right now,

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but I have an ancient British flag on the inside

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of my house. It's framed from my grandfather. But rightly so.

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On the inside. I don't fly a Pride flag. I

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don't fly a Palestinian flag. I don't fly any other

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flag but the American flag. Why, common sense, it's the

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United States of America.

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Amen, Doctor Andrew Fox, the organizational culture expert, professor, priest,

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and author of the forthcoming book Truth in the Age

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of Applause. Doctor Fox, look forward to having you back.

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We got to continue this conversation. Okay, pleasure Bill, Really,

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John Samer. Kay, John, how are you hi?

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Bill?

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What's good to talk to you. It's been three weeks.

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Yeah, it's been a little bit. We both have been

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traveling wonderers, Me and Hawaii and you in you know,

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South Africa. How much fun was that?

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It was?

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I was a group of friends were doing a safari

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at various wild game parts in South Africa and Zimbabwe

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and Botswana, and one of them couldn't but the last

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minute couldn't go, so they had a free ticket for me.

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So because the right exactly, so.

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You didn't and you didn't have to become a socialist

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to take advantage of it. So that's even better.

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Right, But I got I learned some lessons about the

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kind of socialism we're facing right now. Remember the Zori Mumdani,

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the Islamist socialist who's mayor of New York, pointed to

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what the transition in South Africa as the model for

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what he wants to do with New York City, which

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on the face of it ought to be kind of alarming.

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It suggests that New York City under Rudolph Giuliani and

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Republicans was the equivalent of apartheid South Africa. That that's

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how evil people, the Democratic Socialists, that's how evil they

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think America is. They think America is as tainted by

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racism and inequality and fundamentally authoritarian, not a real democracy

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as South Africa was. Hold on, Bill, would you could

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you pause for a second. My dog is doing something.

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I have to stop.

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I have to open the door of the dog or

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he's just gonna keep scratching at it.

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Okay, no ores, no worries, We got okay, all right, Yeah,

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go ahead and pick it up. All right from there go.

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So, Mom, Donnie and his allies regard America as basically

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an apartheid dictatorship. Think about that. Well, I had that

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in mind when I visited South Africa. We we flew

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into Johannesburg, which is kind of a big slum, and people,

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what Natas told us, don't don't even bother to tour,

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just go straight to Cape Town. We went to Cape Town,

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which is where most of the whites current who remain

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in South Africa live. In nineteen eighty six, when I

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graduated college, when the old regime was in power, twenty

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percent of South Africans were white. It's now down to

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seven percent. Wow, seven percent, So two thirds of them

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apparently fled. And our guide, who was a white of

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African descent, you know, she gave the standard line, which

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there's a lot of truth to that. The old regime

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was incredibly repressive. It restricted people's personal liberties, It segregated

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them by race, by tribe, by ethnic group. It tried

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to manage diversity, and it tried to do it heavy

547
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hand of the state, and ultimately, because of international pressure

548
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a boycott's the regime was forced to give way to

549
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Nelson Mandela, and everybody holds him up as this wonderful

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model of democratic transition. Now, he had been a long

551
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time terrorists. He had committed terrorist acts, ordered terrorist acts, murders, assassinations,

552
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mob violence. He had allied with the South African Communist Party.

553
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His wife, Winnie Mandela, would regularly have black South Africans

554
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burned alive with a tire around their neck. And Mendela

555
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when he came to power, he admirably did not set

556
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up a Cuban style dictatorship the way Rhodesia had. Rhodesia

557
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had been a minority white government. It didn't have apartheid,

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and it restricted voting based on property, so there were

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plenty of blacks who could vote that had to have

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a certain amount of money. This was to avoid socialism,

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avoid the masses of poor African people who hadn't yet

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been educated voting to take all the property, all the farms,

563
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all the things that the white settlers had built. Zimbabwe

564
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felt and turned into a Cuban, a Cuban style dictatorship

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with violent seizure of land. The whites driven out. Most

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of them are gone now. The country went into mass inflation.

567
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You can buy a two hundred billion dollar Zimbabwean note.

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That notes of two hundred billion dollars. Oh wow, that

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you couldn't buy bread with UH. The food production plummeted.

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It went from being a food exporter to to UH

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having famines. Well, South Africa didn't go that bad, Okay,

572
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It did not lapse into a Cuban style dictatorship. Instead,

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it became a kleptocracy where the African National Congress basically

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still runs the country. Kind of the way the mafia

575
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used to runs some American cities, all the all the jobs,

576
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all the government money gets looted by relatives of public officials.

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There's an elaborate racial system where every business that has

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government contracts has to be major already black owned, and

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the white businessmen hire blacky black people to be on

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their boards so that they can be minority majority minority

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minority black. The country's economy has just tapered into decline.

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H A lot of the far a lot of the

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big farmers have gone out of business. The townships, which

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used to be segregated where black people were forced to live,

585
00:34:29.840 --> 00:34:35.559
used to have schools and electricity and running water. Now

586
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all of that's gone because people steal the copper from

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00:34:38.079 --> 00:34:42.039
the pipes, the copper from the wires. Now the townships

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don't actually have a police force. One one tour guy

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was telling me they rely on mob justice, where if

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someone commits a crime, the mobs will find him and

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they will and they will kill him or they will

592
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drive him out because there's there's no formal policing. So

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what I took away from this is but the old

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governments in Rhodesia and South Africa we were doomed, okay,

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because they were minorities trying to sort of impose modern

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life on relatively backward people of an alien civilization to

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their own. Okay, those regimes weren't were far from perfect,

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and they, especially the South African regime, did did some bad,

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really bad things. But they were trying to maintain a

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capitalist society with certain political freedoms, a Western style society.

601
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But the demography was against them. The numbers weren't there.

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What the left is trying to do by importing huge

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numbers of especially Muslim immigrants into the West, into America,

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the left is trying to turn us into the old

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South Africa, where the people who's support the American system,

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the American constitution, Western civilization, Christianity are shrinking and shrinking

607
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and shrinking to the point where we won't be able

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to maintain it democratically. We're getting close to the point

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where there just won't be enough votes for constitution, for

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the Bill of Rights, for the separation of powers, for

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all the things that we as heirs of the founding

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fathers value. The numbers won't be there, and so they'll

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be able to do to Americans, traditional Americans what the

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African National Congress and the Zimbabwe government did to the

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minority whites, take their stuff, drive them out of the country,

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oppress them, persecute their culture, and especially the influx of

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large numbers of aggressive Muslims. Muslims have in the dna

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of their religion, the desire for power to dominate the government,

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to use the government to humiliate non believers, to elevate Muslims,

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to discriminate against non Muslims in court, in laws, in

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every kind of custom we see already crazy things like

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in Belgium, blind people can't use seeing eye dogs on

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public transit because dogs offend the Muslims. So the immigrants

624
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come and instead of trying to assimilate to the country

625
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and the culture, they want to assimilate it to them.

626
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They're setting up Sharia cities in places like Texas. In Dearborn, Michigan,

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which is now majority Muslim Arab, a Christian minister was told,

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I think the mayor that he wasn't welcome, that he

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should leave, he should move out, he doesn't belong there.

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You got the call to prayer echoing on loud speakers,

631
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and across Europe churches are burning. Who's Who's lighting them

632
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on fire. It's it's probably not angry ex Altar boys

633
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who you know, have a claim against a pervert priest.

634
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No thought that. I thought that was the name of

635
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a rock band.

636
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Angry Exalter. It should have been a punk band. Rights

637
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opportunity there. I'm currently working on the documentary Jihad in

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Texas about the influx of aggressive Islam, and it is

639
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the it's the biggest problem facing this in the future

640
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is going to be millions of people who believe that

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their religion should be imposed by the state, that other

642
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religions are crimes, that their existence is a crime. Islam

643
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teaches that every non Muslim is a rebel against God

644
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who deserves to either be killed or subjugated and forced

645
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to pay a special tax. And it's called dimitude. It's

646
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it's the state of subjugation to Muslims.

647
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I want to get into that a little bit more John,

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Let's go to quick break. We'll pick it up on

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the other side. More from doctor John after this stay

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Hey, welcome back. I'm Bill Martineze's doctor John's America, author

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of No Second Amendment, No First, and the Politically Incorrect

726
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Guide to Catholicism, amongst many other books as well. John,

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I want you to pick up your story, I mean,

728
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with what's happening. We see what's happening in Europe and

729
00:43:17.920 --> 00:43:21.599
it's no longer existential. It's here amongst us. You know,

730
00:43:21.639 --> 00:43:24.480
we're shocked to see what's happening, particularly in Texas. The

731
00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:29.119
amount of you know, Muslim facilities that are you know,

732
00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:32.239
that have been built up there in Texas. And in

733
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other parts of the country as well.

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We can't treat Islam like any other religion because it

735
00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:44.760
is a religion dedicated to conquests, dedicated to repression, dedicated

736
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to the subjugation of non Muslims, the subjugation of women,

737
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the persecution of homosexuals, practice sex. Slavery is practiced in Islam,

738
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where if you if you were in a war against

739
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non Muslims and you capture women, you can the miss

740
00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:05.360
sex slaves. The problem is Islam is not allowed. It

741
00:44:06.039 --> 00:44:10.400
has no mechanism for evolving, no mechanism for changing. It's

742
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:13.239
true that in the past Christian's own slaves, but the

743
00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:18.239
Church came to realize that was wrong and Christians abolished slavery.

744
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Islam can't make developments like that because everyone is bound

745
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to emulate Muhammed. His behavior is considered perfect. He's considered

746
00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:34.119
the perfect model for imitation. So anything Muhammad did, you

747
00:44:34.280 --> 00:44:38.719
should do. The problem is Mohammed wades religious wars, slaughtered

748
00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:45.239
Jews and Christians assassinated his critics, had dozens of sex slaves,

749
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had multiple wives, married a seven year old and consummated

750
00:44:50.239 --> 00:44:53.960
it when she was nine. All these things are held

751
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up as virtuous you and I. Our model is Jesus Christ,

752
00:44:58.440 --> 00:45:01.639
who never killed anyone, never or hurt anyone, and gave

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00:45:01.719 --> 00:45:06.000
up his life. Willingly compare that to a religion founded

754
00:45:06.039 --> 00:45:11.159
by a warlord. So when the revolution happened in Iran,

755
00:45:11.400 --> 00:45:15.280
I think it was nineteen seventy nine, they immediately lowered

756
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the aide for marriage for girls to nine because Muhammad

757
00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:22.880
did it, so it must be right. How many of

758
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:25.480
these people do you want in your country? The First

759
00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:30.639
Amendment doesn't cover immigration. We can discriminate an immigration on

760
00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:35.000
any grounds we want because the Constitution doesn't apply to foreigners.

761
00:45:35.480 --> 00:45:39.400
We could say we only want supermodels. If you don't

762
00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:41.719
look as good as Millennia Trump, you can't come in

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00:45:41.760 --> 00:45:44.239
the country. That would be stupid, but it would be

764
00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:51.440
perfectly constitutional. Likewise, we need to look at diminishing the

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number of Muslims.

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Who come to the country.

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But if you want to avoid the whole discrimination aspect, fine,

768
00:45:56.960 --> 00:45:59.920
let's do a moratorium on all immigration. I would like

769
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to see immigration reduced to zero for at least forty

770
00:46:04.159 --> 00:46:08.960
years to allow America to sort of digest. It's like,

771
00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:12.480
we just ate at the Denny's breakfast bar. We took

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00:46:12.519 --> 00:46:16.239
all you can eat is a personal challenge, and we

773
00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:18.639
won't get away from the table. We won't stop piling

774
00:46:18.679 --> 00:46:22.400
up the table with sausages and eggs and bacon and ham.

775
00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:25.880
The country. We're like a snake that ate a rabbit

776
00:46:26.239 --> 00:46:30.119
and move through the snake. But if the snake keeps

777
00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:35.159
eating rabbits, if we keep bringing in millions of immigrants

778
00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:40.840
from third world countries, especially Muslim countries, we will die

779
00:46:41.000 --> 00:46:43.039
the way the snake would die if it kept eating

780
00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:46.920
before it could digest the food. It's that simple. And

781
00:46:47.320 --> 00:46:51.840
the left increasingly makes clear that it doesn't value the

782
00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:56.039
American founding, it doesn't value the Constitution. The Democratic Socialist

783
00:46:56.079 --> 00:46:58.960
of America taken over the Democratic Party, and they're saying

784
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they want to abolish the elect through College and the Senate.

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00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:04.360
They want to pack the Supreme Court. They don't care

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about any of the limitations on power that our founders

787
00:47:08.119 --> 00:47:11.440
put in place to avoid tyranny. They want tyranny. They

788
00:47:11.599 --> 00:47:15.480
want absolute power. They wanted do to America what their

789
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:19.280
compatriots did in Cuba. And remember the Democratic Socialis of America,

790
00:47:19.320 --> 00:47:21.800
a lot of them go to Cuba. They get trained

791
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by Cuban members of the Cuban dictatorship, and then they

792
00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:27.920
come here and they propound those ideas. Marco Rubio just

793
00:47:27.960 --> 00:47:31.760
issued a report on how Cuba has been leveraging far

794
00:47:31.840 --> 00:47:35.840
left radicals, including the current mayor of Los Angeles was

795
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:40.280
trained in a Cuban communist and doctrination camp. These things

796
00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:43.760
sound like crackpot conspiracy theories, but they're all just facts.

797
00:47:43.800 --> 00:47:48.559
These are just the headlines in so far as these

798
00:47:48.599 --> 00:47:51.559
people don't value the American system and are telling us

799
00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:54.159
they want to abolish the American system. They want to

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abolish private property. Zarammdani is trying to eliminate landlords in

801
00:47:58.280 --> 00:48:00.880
New York. He wants to drive them out of business,

802
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:03.800
make them break them by not letting them raise rent,

803
00:48:03.920 --> 00:48:06.719
or evict people who won't pay their rent, so that

804
00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:10.960
the properties can be bought up by the city for

805
00:48:11.000 --> 00:48:16.320
a song and turned into socialist collective housing compounds run

806
00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:19.440
by guess who, the Democratic Socialists of America. So these

807
00:48:19.480 --> 00:48:24.639
communists are involved in the biggest real estate grab in history,

808
00:48:25.079 --> 00:48:28.320
and they're saying it openly. And what do the Republicans do.

809
00:48:28.360 --> 00:48:30.559
They're feuding with each other. They can't even pass the

810
00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:34.079
Save Act. We still got these terrible rhinos like John

811
00:48:34.119 --> 00:48:38.599
Thune in the Senate who are acting like they're acting

812
00:48:38.639 --> 00:48:43.239
like we're playing poker for matchsticks, when in fact we're

813
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:46.960
playing Russian Roulette with our children's future and our country's future.

814
00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:51.840
Yeah, this is you know, look at they're really have

815
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:54.880
exposed themselves and telling you what it's all about. But

816
00:48:55.199 --> 00:48:57.440
you know, the media is not doing us any favors, John,

817
00:48:57.519 --> 00:49:00.960
and reporting on this. They're going along and meanwhile America

818
00:49:01.039 --> 00:49:06.960
is being absorbed by these people who you know, they

819
00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:10.960
have a third world mentality, I mean, and their references

820
00:49:11.559 --> 00:49:16.119
is destruction. It's not about growth, it's not it's just

821
00:49:16.840 --> 00:49:21.519
you know, overwhelm America overwhelmed. You know, it's citizens to

822
00:49:21.639 --> 00:49:25.119
where you know, people just they shut up and go

823
00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:27.480
along to get along. And next thing, you know, we're

824
00:49:27.519 --> 00:49:28.559
like Germany.

825
00:49:28.840 --> 00:49:32.840
Well you know Germany and Germany now it's like twenty

826
00:49:32.840 --> 00:49:36.719
percent Muslim. Yeah, and a majority of the people of

827
00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:41.199
the kids under twelve in places like Vienna are Muslim immigrants,

828
00:49:41.400 --> 00:49:43.480
and the government just keep bringing them in. In fact,

829
00:49:43.519 --> 00:49:47.639
the European Union just refused to allow a petition to

830
00:49:48.159 --> 00:49:52.119
halt immigration into Europe. It was democratically done. It followed

831
00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:55.800
they followed the rules. You said, no, this offends EU values.

832
00:49:55.920 --> 00:50:00.960
What are EU values? Liquidating the native population we're replacing

833
00:50:01.159 --> 00:50:04.679
with Muslim colonists. We have to start seeing these immigrants

834
00:50:04.679 --> 00:50:08.079
who come here, especially from Muslim countries, as colonists. We

835
00:50:08.199 --> 00:50:10.559
have to start thinking of them the way the Indians

836
00:50:10.639 --> 00:50:13.559
saw the Europeans as they as we were taking all

837
00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:16.280
the land of North America. That is the level of

838
00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:20.840
transformation that we're seeing. And nobody voted for this, nobody

839
00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:24.840
accepted this. This wasn't done lawfully. Joe Biden simply refused

840
00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:27.360
to enforce our immigration laws for four years and we

841
00:50:27.440 --> 00:50:29.840
were flooded with twenty million people. And now every time

842
00:50:29.920 --> 00:50:32.599
Donald Trump wants to deport some of the worst of

843
00:50:32.679 --> 00:50:35.239
the worst, it has to go practically all the way

844
00:50:35.320 --> 00:50:36.320
up to the Supreme Court.

845
00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:40.639
Yeah, exactly. And what was in it for Joe Biden,

846
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:42.719
John that he would do this to us.

847
00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:46.960
Well, Joe Biden was running kind of a crime a

848
00:50:47.039 --> 00:50:49.920
crime syndicate out of the White House, and I think

849
00:50:50.039 --> 00:50:52.840
the far left they could have blackmailed him and said, look,

850
00:50:53.079 --> 00:50:55.880
we know the crimes you're committing, go ahead and commit them,

851
00:50:55.880 --> 00:50:57.519
but you have to give us what we want. And

852
00:50:57.639 --> 00:51:00.440
what we want is to flood the country with foreigners,

853
00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:03.559
to colonize it with foreigners, so that we can let

854
00:51:03.639 --> 00:51:05.599
them vote and we can take power in the country

855
00:51:05.719 --> 00:51:09.440
and never give it back. You can't vote your way

856
00:51:09.639 --> 00:51:11.920
out of what these people are trying to impose in America.

857
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:16.760
Just in Nicaragua, Daniel Ortega, the Communist, won the election

858
00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:18.880
and he announced there will never be any more elections

859
00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:23.559
in Nicaragua. Plan his family plan that holds the hower forever. Frankly,

860
00:51:23.639 --> 00:51:26.480
I think we should pull out of Iran and overthrow

861
00:51:26.519 --> 00:51:29.440
the government in Nicaragua. We should liberate Nicaragua before it

862
00:51:29.519 --> 00:51:32.519
turns fully into a nightmare like Cuba.

863
00:51:33.400 --> 00:51:35.920
Well, you know, you look at these numbers. You and

864
00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:38.840
I've talked about this before. This is according to the

865
00:51:38.920 --> 00:51:44.840
Copenhagen Protocols, known as the Demographic Jihad. It's how Islam

866
00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:48.760
is colonizing non Muslim countries the United States. This is

867
00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:52.159
these are numbers. From twenty ten to twenty thirty, United

868
00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:56.599
States will have grown one hundred and forty percent. Their

869
00:51:56.679 --> 00:52:01.039
Muslim demographic will grow that much by twenty thirty. That's

870
00:52:01.079 --> 00:52:03.599
not too far from now. It's three years plus from now.

871
00:52:04.760 --> 00:52:10.119
UK from two point eight million to five point five

872
00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:13.719
that's a ninety four percent growth John and on and on.

873
00:52:14.000 --> 00:52:17.199
I mean New Zealand one hundred and forty six percent

874
00:52:17.320 --> 00:52:20.400
projected growth, Ireland one hundred and ninety one percent growth.

875
00:52:20.559 --> 00:52:23.639
It just goes across in you know, the entirety of

876
00:52:23.679 --> 00:52:27.320
the globe. You know, the non Muslim countries are being

877
00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:30.000
colonized by Muslim by Islam, and.

878
00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:33.800
It's centrally directed by the organization the Muslim Brotherhood, which

879
00:52:33.960 --> 00:52:40.239
is it's like the Old Common Tern or the Communist International.

880
00:52:40.760 --> 00:52:44.199
It is an organization based in the Middle East that

881
00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:47.159
is banned in many Muslim countries because they don't want

882
00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:50.320
these conspirators running their governments, but they're happy to see

883
00:52:50.360 --> 00:52:53.920
them try to take over our governments. Yes, and you know,

884
00:52:54.199 --> 00:52:57.159
people like Greg Abbott in Texas have done symbolic things

885
00:52:57.239 --> 00:53:01.320
like banning the Muslim Brotherhood. And it's front group care

886
00:53:01.599 --> 00:53:04.719
the Council of American Islamic Relations. It's just a front

887
00:53:04.760 --> 00:53:09.039
group for the Muslim conquest organization, the Muslim Brotherhood. But

888
00:53:09.719 --> 00:53:13.199
we're going to have to get really serious about immigration enforcement.

889
00:53:13.239 --> 00:53:15.920
We're going to have to just cut the numbers out,

890
00:53:16.719 --> 00:53:19.639
cut out the Muslim countries. But really, I think if

891
00:53:19.679 --> 00:53:22.840
you want to keep it no non sectarian, let's have

892
00:53:23.079 --> 00:53:27.679
let's go for an immigration moratorium. The next Republican presidential

893
00:53:27.760 --> 00:53:32.400
candidate should run on an immigration moratorium. Give America a

894
00:53:32.599 --> 00:53:36.320
chance to digest the enormous meal that was for. We

895
00:53:36.440 --> 00:53:40.440
were force fed twenty million people we never asked for. Yeah,

896
00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:43.880
a lot of them committing medicare fraud, food stamp fraud,

897
00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:46.920
identity theft, stealing people social security numbers.

898
00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:51.519
Right, people centivized it all. John We've turned a blind

899
00:53:51.559 --> 00:53:53.559
eye to it. We'd let him, let them come in

900
00:53:53.679 --> 00:53:56.000
and rob us three ways of Sunday. We've got to

901
00:53:56.079 --> 00:53:59.719
do some things that, you know, dissuade them from that

902
00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:00.800
said behavior.

903
00:54:01.079 --> 00:54:05.840
Meanwhile, fifty Republicans just called for amnesty for all agricultural workers,

904
00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:07.800
which is going to be everyone. Everybody will claim to

905
00:54:07.800 --> 00:54:11.719
be an agricultural worker. Fifty Republicans in the House endorsed amnesty.

906
00:54:12.039 --> 00:54:14.760
Are they trying to lose the midterms? Are they trying

907
00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:19.679
to hand power to Alexandria Casio Cortes and elan Omar

908
00:54:20.079 --> 00:54:23.400
and Zora Mundani? Are they not paying attention, not reading

909
00:54:23.519 --> 00:54:26.440
how radical and insane these people are? This is not

910
00:54:26.599 --> 00:54:29.639
the Democratic Party, if Hubert Humphrey, or even if Bill

911
00:54:29.719 --> 00:54:34.360
Clinton is the Democratic Party of Barack Obama, Bill Ayers,

912
00:54:34.519 --> 00:54:41.519
the weather Underground, Jeremiah Wright. These are the people who say,

913
00:54:41.599 --> 00:54:43.760
God damn America, and we need to start taking them

914
00:54:43.800 --> 00:54:46.760
at their word that they mean it. They're not just angry,

915
00:54:46.920 --> 00:54:50.960
They're not just upset. They're not just alienated zoomers. These

916
00:54:51.079 --> 00:54:57.360
are radical ideologues whose ideas have ruined entire nations. Tens

917
00:54:57.440 --> 00:55:00.639
of millions of people died in the Soviet Union and

918
00:55:00.760 --> 00:55:06.000
communists China and Cambodia and Vietnam, and people suffered went

919
00:55:06.039 --> 00:55:10.760
to Gulag camp, secret police. We know how this plays out.

920
00:55:11.239 --> 00:55:12.400
This is just as.

921
00:55:12.360 --> 00:55:15.599
Crazy as if neo Nazis were to take over the

922
00:55:15.679 --> 00:55:19.440
Republican Party. We know what the Nazi ideology leads to,

923
00:55:19.880 --> 00:55:23.079
we know what communist ideology leads to. And the fact

924
00:55:23.159 --> 00:55:26.760
that many Republicans are not taking this seriously. They're not

925
00:55:26.880 --> 00:55:29.880
fighting to redistrict, they're not fighting to close the border,

926
00:55:29.920 --> 00:55:34.039
they're not fighting for voter id There really are like

927
00:55:34.480 --> 00:55:38.639
passengers on the Titanic arguing over who gets to sit

928
00:55:38.760 --> 00:55:42.239
at the captain's table in the water.

929
00:55:42.559 --> 00:55:44.760
I'm gonna leave it there for now. Doctor John's America,

930
00:55:44.760 --> 00:55:47.320
author of no second Amendment, No First. John is always

931
00:55:47.320 --> 00:55:49.800
appreciate the time. Welcome back, my friend, Thank you, Bill,

932
00:55:49.880 --> 00:55:50.360
God bless.

933
00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:54.719
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Eight hundred two eight four one three four nine, eight

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hundred two eight four one three four nine, eight hundred

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two eight four one three four nine. That's eight hundred

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Getting America back on track. Bill Martinez, Live well.

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Good morning. Welcome back. Six minutes after the top of

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the hour. Bill Martinez here, and we're going to be

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talking with the author of the book New Space Capitalism,

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The Entrepreneurial Cap to the Stars, Rayner Zelman, joins us. Now, Rayder,

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welcome show. Good to have you with us.

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Thank you, I appreciate it.

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Well.

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New Gingrid, says Rayner. Zillman has made a major contribution

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toward thinking about the future of humans in space, you know,

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and it's all you know, You've written about capitalism, many

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many books on capitalism, and it's interesting to have you

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on now when socialism seems to be the topic of

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the day, right.

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Yes, absolutely, And I remember eight years ago when I

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wrote my book The Power of Capitalism and I want

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that we will have again a lot of socialists and Marxists.

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People laughed at me and they said, oh, we know it.

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You fight the fights for the seventeen years from the

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Cold War. Everyone knows capitalism has won and you're fight

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against windmills. But now, unfortunately, unfortunately I was right. Eight

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years later, even in the main capital of capitalisms in

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Europe they elected a hardcore Marxist, So unfortunately I was right.

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And the same happened with me with this book New

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Space Capitalism. When I started a few years ago to

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write about this topic, people taught left at me. Ah,

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this is a niche topic. What is this space capitalism?

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And now my book was published three days before the

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SpaceX launch? What was the biggest ipo on history? So

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again I think I.

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Was right right, well, without a doubt, I mean. And

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the thing is is that even eight years ago, but

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going before that, because we saw how you know, socialists

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were encroaching and they were behind closed doors and they

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kept it pretty much tight lipped about their involvement even

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in our government. Trevor Lawden reported on this, He's an

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excellent researcher and has been reported on this for decades

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that the Democratic Socialists had taken over the Democratic Party.

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Now it's no holds barred. They're out of the closet

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and they're fully exposed.

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Right, Yes, we can learn something from them. They have

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a long, long term strategy. It's sometimes it scores over decades,

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and first they fight the fight for a public opinion,

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and only later on it becomes to politics. They were

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very successful in media and universities and everywhere. So I

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say always reshot run from the leftist because they are

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much more successful than we are in spite of the

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fact that they've failed all the time with their crazy theories.

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You know, exactly.

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If you think that capitalists rechoose a number of people

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living in poverty if it lasts two hundred years, from

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ninety percent to ten percent, and that, on the other hand,

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socialism is responsible for more than one hundred million people

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who were killed. And then if they frame capitalistness inhuman

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and socialism as human, I think you have to be

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a poppulation and marketing genius. So I think we should

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admire them, not for the content of their theory, but

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we should learn something from their marketing and pr because

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definitely they are better than we are.

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Well, Rainer tell this is what irritates me about the

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mainstream media, frankly, and I come out of journalism. I mean,

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my background's been broadcasting for over fifty years, and I'm

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disgusted with the journalists of today by and large because

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they have not taken on this issue. In fact, they've

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embraced it, and they're taking America down the yellow brick

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road of mediocrity and the former isms that are responsible.

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Just as you may in the previous century, killing over

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one hundred million people.

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Yes, and I think it's also a fault of mainstream,

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a so called center right media sometimes because they think

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of themselves to be very tolerant. I don't ask them

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for their political opinion. It's not so important. We should

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hire this this shen in spite of the fact that

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they are hardcore leftist. And this is the reason it happened.

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Also in Germany, we have a state owned TV here

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and there was a pall about the apprentices the people

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are learning there. There were ninety percent left wing ninety

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percent left wing. So it's it's in a lot of

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countries all of the world. And this is one of

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the reasons why I wrote my book A NewSpace Capitalism,

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because this is a perfect example that capitalism works much

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01:01:53.960 --> 01:01:58.079
much better than socialism and the government. Let's give me.

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Let's give you a few facts. You know, the moon

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landing was more or less government led, and for decades

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with the Space Shuttle program, this was led by the government,

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and the moon landing, of course it was a great success,

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but then with the Space Shuttle it was a total failure.

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I have the facts in my book. They estimated costs

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for every flight ten million dollars. In the end it

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was more than one billion dollar estimated ten million than

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01:02:30.599 --> 01:02:36.320
one billion. Then they calculated on the basis of one

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01:02:36.400 --> 01:02:40.559
hundred and forty flights the year, and then in reality

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01:02:40.719 --> 01:02:43.960
there were only one hundred and thirty five flights in

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01:02:44.079 --> 01:02:46.599
thirty years. So and then you know, there were the

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01:02:46.679 --> 01:02:50.519
two accidents fourteen people died, and then they had no

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01:02:52.239 --> 01:02:57.039
rocket that was able to bring American astronauts to the

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01:02:57.159 --> 01:03:01.360
International Space Station. The title, the chapter of this title

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is the end of the future, because in twenty eleven

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01:03:06.519 --> 01:03:09.119
this was the end of the space shut program. They

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had no other rocket, and then they relied on old

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01:03:13.119 --> 01:03:17.920
fashioned Russian surius rockets. And then this was the beginning

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of the success of SpaceX because there were a few

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01:03:22.199 --> 01:03:26.119
smart people inside NASA who said, okay, we should give

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it a try with his private companies. Most politicians were

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very negative and skeptical or this will never work.

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And the well, you know why they were skeptical, right.

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Yes, because they believe that it's only possible to do

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it to the government. Because it was alreadys done by

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the government. And there was even one one woman who

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worked inside NASA and she was in charge for a

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cooperation with SpaceX, and she reported every week there came

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colleagues people in my office, our arms of sorry for you,

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that you have to work with the agiots. I don't

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want to be in your shoes. Yes, but she believed

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in it, and nine years later, twenty twenty, again the

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United States were able to bring their astronauts with American

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rocket to the International Space Station, but this time it

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was private. And very important point is Ian Musk is

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the first who was able to create a reusable rocket

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and it makes a huge difference in pricing. Of course,

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I will be the next month again in the United States,

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and imagine I could use the aircraft only once and

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after this it would be throwaway. I think the ticket

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would cost eight hundred thousand dollars or something like this.

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And this is how the NASA still today builds their rockets.

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This Artemis two mission, the rocket cost four billion dollars

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01:04:54.000 --> 01:04:57.239
only for one time use. Ian Musk, on the other hand,

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01:04:57.519 --> 01:05:00.920
he used the same Falcon nine rocket to day thirty

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five times, and of course this makes a huge difference.

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Not only this, so he reduced the launch costs. This

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is how much does it cost to bring one killer

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to space by ninety five percent, by ninety five percent.

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And this shows that capitalist is much more efficient. And

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you know, I wrote that book especially also for young people,

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because there are so many young people today who turn

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to the left and anti capitalism. But when I was young,

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I was fascinated with space. I remember this was the

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time of the first moonlight landing. I'm now sixty nine

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years oldest for the time, and I are so fascinated.

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Everything was about space, and I won't that if now

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maybe the parents hear our show that they buy the book,

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maybe for themselves, but maybe give it to your children

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to vaccinate them against socials, that they become fascinated, that

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they see, Okay, this is great. This is the next phrase,

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storry space. And then maybe they will alter understand that

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only capitalist works.

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Stay with us, we got to go to a quick break.

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We're back with you, brainder Zettleman continues with us the

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author of New Space Capitalism, The Entrepreneurial Path to the Stars.

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The capitalist space revolution has begun, he says Elon Musk.

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SpaceX is laying the groundwork for the largest initial public

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offering to history. For many, this marks the starting signal

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of the dawn of a new era in space capitalism.

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Of three hundred and twenty four global rocket launches last year,

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01:11:10.239 --> 01:11:14.119
space X accounted for one hundred and sixty five. If

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SpaceX were a country, it would be the world's number

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one space bearing nation, far ahead of China. Ziegelman rights

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again the contrast here between capitalism and socialism. Socialism would

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never even get to the platform of a space project,

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would they.

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Of course, when you spent enough money, as for the

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01:11:42.279 --> 01:11:47.000
Apollo program. They spent three hundred billion in today's statuts

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01:11:47.079 --> 01:11:50.239
with four hundred thousand people working there in twenty thousand compers,

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you can make something possible sometimes. But after this success

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01:11:55.000 --> 01:11:57.760
of the Apollo program, there were decades of haya with

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01:11:57.920 --> 01:12:00.640
a space Huttel and I explained in my book why.

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But the next thing is I look in the future,

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and I want to talk also about this because this

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01:12:05.079 --> 01:12:11.520
is very important. Why is that that today there were

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01:12:11.720 --> 01:12:15.680
no people on Mars. Why is that that there are

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01:12:16.119 --> 01:12:19.399
is no asteroid mining today? Why is that that it

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01:12:19.560 --> 01:12:22.479
is fifty five years ago that people were last time

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01:12:22.880 --> 01:12:25.960
on the Moon? And I think because there's not the incentive.

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In the sixties it was a space race between the

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United States and the Soviet Union, but as soon as

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01:12:32.720 --> 01:12:35.439
they planted the flag on the Moon, the wind was

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out of the sails and there was not an incentive.

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And I have an idea in my book. Because it

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costs a lot of money, of course, and you can't

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01:12:44.159 --> 01:12:47.000
pay it all with taxpayers money. This is not possible.

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01:12:47.039 --> 01:12:50.159
Maybe to bring a few astronauts to the mass, yes,

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but not the plans from ill Mask, like settling one

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01:12:54.720 --> 01:12:57.359
million people there or building a city on the Moon.

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It's not possible with taxpayers money. It has to be

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fine as private and I have an idea private property

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01:13:04.199 --> 01:13:06.680
should be allowed in space because today we have a

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01:13:06.720 --> 01:13:10.079
big problem. Most people don't know. There's this Outer Space

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01:13:10.279 --> 01:13:14.159
Treaty from nineteen sixty seven, and according to Article two

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01:13:14.640 --> 01:13:18.720
of this Outer Space Treaty, it's prohibited for countries to

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01:13:18.840 --> 01:13:23.520
claim ownership over celestial bodies or land un celestial bodies.

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So first I have no problem when it's prohibited for countries.

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01:13:27.680 --> 01:13:31.119
Maybe even I like it, but hous it with private people, houses,

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01:13:31.119 --> 01:13:34.920
the private companies. I think it should be allowed. To

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01:13:35.039 --> 01:13:37.079
give you an example for example.

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01:13:36.840 --> 01:13:38.800
Well because of it, if it's allowed, it grows.

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01:13:39.560 --> 01:13:44.600
Yes, exactly, And it was imagined in the history of America.

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01:13:44.880 --> 01:13:48.640
It wouldn't be allowed to be owner of land. Who

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01:13:48.640 --> 01:13:52.560
would go to America? No one nor This was the reason,

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01:13:53.039 --> 01:13:55.720
the motive and this were the settlers, and in this

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01:13:55.920 --> 01:13:59.880
quarters they took ownership of land. Later it was legalized

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01:14:00.079 --> 01:14:02.520
by the homestead And I think it will happen in

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01:14:02.600 --> 01:14:06.800
the same way in space because if there is no

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01:14:07.039 --> 01:14:10.399
economic motive and no economic incentive, it costs a lot

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01:14:10.479 --> 01:14:12.279
of money and you have to get it back. And

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01:14:12.399 --> 01:14:16.000
my idea is, for example, if SpaceX would be able

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01:14:16.079 --> 01:14:18.239
to go to Mars as an example, and they start

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01:14:18.439 --> 01:14:22.399
to develop something there, they should claim ownership, not of

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01:14:22.479 --> 01:14:27.039
the whole planet, but a manageable area, maybe the size

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01:14:27.239 --> 01:14:31.640
of Singapore, because the mass surface is two hundred thousand

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01:14:31.720 --> 01:14:35.840
times larger than Singapore, so it's enough place for others.

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01:14:36.279 --> 01:14:39.199
They should claim ownership and then bring it to the

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01:14:39.279 --> 01:14:42.399
stock market. This is my idea as a really state

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01:14:42.520 --> 01:14:46.199
investment trust so that everyone can be a shareholder, you,

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01:14:46.840 --> 01:14:50.199
me and everyone. And this is a realistic idea how

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01:14:50.279 --> 01:14:51.079
to finance it.

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01:14:51.399 --> 01:14:53.760
I think it's a great idea. What now, what do

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01:14:53.800 --> 01:14:56.279
you think about the interference of China, because you know,

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01:14:56.479 --> 01:14:58.399
just as you mentioned, we had a space race with

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01:14:58.560 --> 01:15:02.640
Russia in the sixties and seventies and now here we

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01:15:02.800 --> 01:15:06.840
are with this now happening, and what Elon Musk has

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01:15:06.880 --> 01:15:09.359
been able to do, and China is licking their chops

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01:15:09.399 --> 01:15:13.399
and they want to plan a flag and claim territorial ownership.

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Absolutely, this is my warning. Don't underestimate China. They have

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01:15:20.720 --> 01:15:23.720
programs to go there next to the Moon. They want

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01:15:23.760 --> 01:15:26.720
to go there before twenty thirty, but then they want

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01:15:26.760 --> 01:15:30.199
to go to Mars. And they are smart, even in

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01:15:30.279 --> 01:15:34.520
spite of the fact that it's more or less government

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01:15:34.600 --> 01:15:37.159
led in their economy. They have a lot of private

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01:15:37.239 --> 01:15:41.560
companies today and especially in space. Ten years ago, Chichiping,

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01:15:41.920 --> 01:15:44.920
they saw the success of SpaceX and the companies in

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01:15:44.920 --> 01:15:49.720
the United States, and then they allowed to found private

1273
01:15:49.880 --> 01:15:53.039
companies in China. Today we have four hundred and fifty

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01:15:53.359 --> 01:15:56.640
private space companies in China. But I think if they

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01:15:56.960 --> 01:16:02.239
would be the first on planets, it would have exactly

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01:16:02.319 --> 01:16:05.920
what you predicted. They would claim ownership of the whole planet.

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01:16:06.279 --> 01:16:09.680
Maybe as for People's Republic of China, of course it's

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01:16:09.760 --> 01:16:12.920
not allowed according to the Outer Space Treaty, but you

1279
01:16:13.000 --> 01:16:15.640
can cancel it. With one here, notice, maybe they will

1280
01:16:15.720 --> 01:16:17.880
cancel it. And so it's very important to be the

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01:16:18.000 --> 01:16:23.760
first there, and also to make clear that the company

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01:16:23.800 --> 01:16:27.720
who's first there that they claim can claim ownership. The

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01:16:27.800 --> 01:16:33.039
same with asteroids. Why is there no asteroid mining today

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01:16:33.119 --> 01:16:36.199
in spite of the tact that there are so many resources,

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01:16:36.359 --> 01:16:43.800
platinum especially, it's only a single asteroid has Sometimes the

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01:16:43.920 --> 01:16:48.600
platinum is more valuable than the whole cross product of

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01:16:48.680 --> 01:16:51.119
the whole world. Of course only in theory, because if

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01:16:51.159 --> 01:16:53.600
you bring it to the Earth, the prices would plump.

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01:16:53.840 --> 01:16:57.920
But why is no one there? Because would you invest

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01:16:58.039 --> 01:17:00.720
there and take the risk if in the end it's

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01:17:00.800 --> 01:17:04.000
not clear or it's not allowed that you claim ownership

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01:17:04.079 --> 01:17:08.680
of the asteroid. So my ideas bring this asteroid to

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01:17:08.840 --> 01:17:11.800
the stock market as a real state investment trust and

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01:17:12.079 --> 01:17:15.279
in this moment that a space race would start between

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01:17:15.600 --> 01:17:19.840
companies who's first to take this valuable asteroid? And I

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01:17:20.000 --> 01:17:22.640
want to start a discussion, and I'm very happy that

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01:17:23.119 --> 01:17:27.640
new Linkridge wrote the preface and even the best space

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01:17:28.439 --> 01:17:32.279
the best expert for space economy. This is Matthew Reinziel

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01:17:32.520 --> 01:17:35.119
from the Howard Business School. He praised my book. I

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01:17:35.199 --> 01:17:37.880
have it in my book. And Robert Supreme, he's the

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01:17:38.000 --> 01:17:40.680
founder of the Mars Society. This is the man who

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01:17:40.760 --> 01:17:44.720
gave Ill Musk all his ideas. Robert Supreme, and he

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01:17:44.920 --> 01:17:49.439
invited me. I will be in October at the conference

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01:17:49.560 --> 01:17:53.760
of the Mars Society to present there my ideas, and

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01:17:53.920 --> 01:17:56.479
he gave me a great plurb for the book. He wrote,

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01:17:57.279 --> 01:18:00.239
Freedom will bring us space, Space will bring us. Read

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01:18:00.279 --> 01:18:03.600
them and Rena Seidemann shows us the way. So I

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01:18:03.760 --> 01:18:06.199
was very proud because this was a man who gave

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01:18:06.439 --> 01:18:09.000
Ill Musk the ideas. But I have only one thing.

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01:18:09.439 --> 01:18:13.239
I hope there's someone who listens to your show who

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01:18:13.600 --> 01:18:16.640
knows Ian Musk in person, because I met a lot

1312
01:18:16.680 --> 01:18:19.039
of people who are very close to him, even friends,

1313
01:18:19.399 --> 01:18:22.399
But so far, I'm honest, I was not able to

1314
01:18:22.479 --> 01:18:25.479
meet him in person. But here, Ian is a story

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01:18:25.560 --> 01:18:27.960
for you. I want to sit down together with you,

1316
01:18:28.159 --> 01:18:30.359
not to take a photo of something, but to talk

1317
01:18:30.479 --> 01:18:34.640
with you. About new space capitals, we talk about private

1318
01:18:34.720 --> 01:18:37.600
property in space, and to build a working group with

1319
01:18:37.760 --> 01:18:42.039
the best really state experts, the best lawyers. Because I'm

1320
01:18:42.079 --> 01:18:46.119
not only a historian and sociologist, I have two PhDs,

1321
01:18:46.479 --> 01:18:49.039
but I was also in the space in the real

1322
01:18:49.159 --> 01:18:52.119
estate industry for twenty years. So I want to bring

1323
01:18:52.279 --> 01:18:54.960
all this together, and so Ian Musk, if you're hear

1324
01:18:55.319 --> 01:18:58.119
anyone who knows them, I want to sit together. I

1325
01:18:58.199 --> 01:18:59.760
know you have a lot of other things to do,

1326
01:19:00.159 --> 01:19:03.119
but please take one hour for me to talk about

1327
01:19:03.439 --> 01:19:05.239
the future of space capitalism.

1328
01:19:05.720 --> 01:19:08.159
Wow, that would be a heck. I'd love to be

1329
01:19:08.239 --> 01:19:11.239
there with you. I'd carry your suitcase, you know, just

1330
01:19:11.920 --> 01:19:15.000
to hear. I wouldn't say anything, I'm sure it just

1331
01:19:15.039 --> 01:19:18.319
would be in awe of the conversation and the depth

1332
01:19:18.359 --> 01:19:22.800
of intellectual exchange that would take place. Because Elon Musk

1333
01:19:22.920 --> 01:19:25.880
is an entrepreneur, he understands He's a big picture kind

1334
01:19:25.880 --> 01:19:27.920
of guy. You're a big picture kind of guy, and

1335
01:19:28.479 --> 01:19:30.479
it would be a lot of fun to see the possibilities.

1336
01:19:30.520 --> 01:19:32.960
I mean, even talking about you know, asteroids. I mean,

1337
01:19:33.399 --> 01:19:36.479
you're the first person that I'm aware of, at least

1338
01:19:36.520 --> 01:19:39.640
on this show that's talked about the gold that is

1339
01:19:39.760 --> 01:19:41.479
in them there hills asteroids.

1340
01:19:41.600 --> 01:19:46.359
Right, Yes, there's a lot of platinum, so much platinum.

1341
01:19:48.279 --> 01:19:52.079
And the thing is what a lot of people don't understand.

1342
01:19:53.319 --> 01:19:56.720
It's not there are a lot of challenges to go there,

1343
01:19:56.920 --> 01:19:59.039
a lot of problems to go through mass, to go

1344
01:19:59.199 --> 01:20:04.760
through the asteroids, but there are more, not technical, but economic.

1345
01:20:05.720 --> 01:20:08.439
I learned it when I had a conversation with Harry

1346
01:20:08.560 --> 01:20:13.840
Jones from Naser Aims Center. I admire him. He is

1347
01:20:14.680 --> 01:20:19.000
four years old and he works since sixty years for Naser,

1348
01:20:19.079 --> 01:20:22.640
so he has all this knowledge. I had a conversation

1349
01:20:22.760 --> 01:20:26.199
with him about politics. He things much different than I do.

1350
01:20:26.399 --> 01:20:29.199
But he has much more knowledge, of course about all

1351
01:20:29.239 --> 01:20:33.159
the space things. And he sent me a paper and

1352
01:20:33.359 --> 01:20:37.760
he said, there are no showstoppers on our way to Mars.

1353
01:20:37.920 --> 01:20:41.800
There are seven challenges, but we can solve them all today.

1354
01:20:42.119 --> 01:20:45.880
We can solve them. And so what I say, the problem?

1355
01:20:46.039 --> 01:20:50.399
Why are we not there? It's not technical, it's economic

1356
01:20:50.720 --> 01:20:55.399
because you need an incentive. Who does everything without an incentive,

1357
01:20:55.479 --> 01:21:00.000
who invests millions and millions or even billions without getting

1358
01:21:00.239 --> 01:21:03.760
and you return, No one would do it only as nhappy.

1359
01:21:04.000 --> 01:21:06.239
This is too expensive to do it as unhappy, so

1360
01:21:06.520 --> 01:21:09.600
there should be a business model. And this was what

1361
01:21:10.079 --> 01:21:13.439
you know. Vanna von Brown, who came from Germany, was

1362
01:21:13.560 --> 01:21:18.279
the mastermind behind the Apollo program. After the moon landing,

1363
01:21:18.800 --> 01:21:21.279
they asked him what will be the next and he

1364
01:21:21.359 --> 01:21:24.720
said something very interesting. He said, now we should find

1365
01:21:24.800 --> 01:21:28.279
a way to make it profitable. But this is this

1366
01:21:28.479 --> 01:21:30.720
is what he said. But it didn't happen. And this

1367
01:21:30.880 --> 01:21:34.039
is a problem. It didn't happen all the Space Shuttle program.

1368
01:21:34.199 --> 01:21:36.800
I have it all in my book. This was a

1369
01:21:36.960 --> 01:21:41.800
total failure. And of course there are also private companies

1370
01:21:41.840 --> 01:21:44.520
that fail, most of them. It's always a business. This

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01:21:44.720 --> 01:21:49.399
is the tracing with capitalism that that private companies can fail,

1372
01:21:49.800 --> 01:21:52.520
then they can get get bankrupt, but some of them

1373
01:21:52.560 --> 01:21:54.960
will survive. It's the survivor of the fittest. But with

1374
01:21:55.079 --> 01:21:57.960
the government, if you have only one laser and if

1375
01:21:58.000 --> 01:22:01.079
they make a bad job, so there no alternative. But

1376
01:22:01.239 --> 01:22:04.079
if you have a few hundreds of private companies, some

1377
01:22:04.279 --> 01:22:07.600
will succeed, only a few and the other one they failed.

1378
01:22:07.680 --> 01:22:11.279
And this is the great and so I repeat it.

1379
01:22:11.840 --> 01:22:15.640
If you are not interested, people who listen to us,

1380
01:22:16.760 --> 01:22:19.880
buy this book for your children, because they will be

1381
01:22:20.039 --> 01:22:23.520
fascinated by space as I was when I was young,

1382
01:22:23.920 --> 01:22:27.359
and then when they were fascinated by space, they I

1383
01:22:27.560 --> 01:22:30.960
hope they will be also fascinated by capitalists. And we

1384
01:22:31.119 --> 01:22:35.039
need more young people who are fascinated by capitalism and

1385
01:22:35.159 --> 01:22:38.039
not by socialism. And this is the great problem today

1386
01:22:39.000 --> 01:22:41.920
in my country, in Germany, also in your country, that

1387
01:22:42.079 --> 01:22:45.479
there are too many young people who believe in socialism.

1388
01:22:46.119 --> 01:22:48.720
Right exactly, well, doctor Rayners Inman, we got to leave

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01:22:48.720 --> 01:22:50.560
it there. Look forward to having you back. He's the

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01:22:50.640 --> 01:22:55.319
author of New Space Capitalism, The Entrepreneurial Path to the Stars.

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01:22:55.720 --> 01:22:56.920
Thank you, Rainer, appreciate it.

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Take care, Thanks a lot. I appreciate it. Thanks, thanks

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Hey welcome back.

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Good to have you with us. Bill Martinez here with

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01:27:08.159 --> 01:27:11.560
Jeff Kemp, the ministry leader and author and former nfl QB.

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01:27:11.880 --> 01:27:13.800
Hey Jeff, good morning to good morning Bell.

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01:27:13.920 --> 01:27:14.199
How are you.

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01:27:14.920 --> 01:27:16.399
Hey. I'm doing I'm doing terrific.

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01:27:16.520 --> 01:27:16.640
You know.

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01:27:16.680 --> 01:27:18.840
I'm back in the East coast, you know, from the

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01:27:18.880 --> 01:27:22.239
Hawaii vacation and all a great time with the daughter

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01:27:22.399 --> 01:27:25.279
unit and the grand kids, you know, so they're growing

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01:27:25.359 --> 01:27:28.960
so fast, as you know, these little munchkins. But it

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01:27:29.079 --> 01:27:31.520
was good fun and it's good to be back home.

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01:27:31.960 --> 01:27:33.680
I'm getting on the other side of all the jet

1475
01:27:33.800 --> 01:27:36.960
lag and my body adjusting to the time zone difference,

1476
01:27:37.000 --> 01:27:38.920
you know, six hour time difference. We'll wear on you

1477
01:27:38.960 --> 01:27:42.000
a little bit. But anyway, I want to talk to

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01:27:42.039 --> 01:27:45.159
you about, you know, communicating. You know, some nice people say,

1479
01:27:45.239 --> 01:27:47.960
is there a communication problem? And sometimes I wonder is

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01:27:48.039 --> 01:27:51.640
it more of a listening problem than a communication problem?

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01:27:51.680 --> 01:27:55.479
What do you say, Oh, if you go back to

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01:27:55.720 --> 01:27:57.920
the Bible, it says that we should be quick to

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01:27:58.079 --> 01:28:01.359
listen and slow to speak, And a lot of that

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01:28:01.960 --> 01:28:04.279
really is indicative of the fact that most of us

1485
01:28:04.319 --> 01:28:07.319
get lost in ourselves on our own thoughts, and then

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01:28:07.359 --> 01:28:10.800
we crowd out the space for other people to communicate fully.

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01:28:10.840 --> 01:28:11.800
That's one of my challenges.

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01:28:11.840 --> 01:28:15.079
My brain's moving real fast, and it's like a popcorn

1489
01:28:15.159 --> 01:28:18.079
machine of ideas, and I jump in and interrupt too soon,

1490
01:28:18.319 --> 01:28:21.920
or I don't even wait for full pause. I'm saying

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01:28:21.960 --> 01:28:24.079
to Stacy the other day, I need to let people

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01:28:24.680 --> 01:28:27.279
wait for at least a second before I jump in

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01:28:27.359 --> 01:28:29.840
and talk. And she said, Jeff, you don't even wait

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01:28:29.880 --> 01:28:31.600
at all. As soon as you get an idea, you

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01:28:31.720 --> 01:28:35.439
start talking. And I'm getting better at that because I've

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01:28:35.479 --> 01:28:39.640
been thinking and learning about the best way to be

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01:28:41.560 --> 01:28:45.800
safe in a relationship is to listen and not jump

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01:28:45.920 --> 01:28:52.640
quickly in with your idea, your analysis, your suggestion, or

1499
01:28:52.720 --> 01:28:56.079
your criticism or correct which we do as parents way

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01:28:56.119 --> 01:28:58.479
too often, but also in marriage because we take each

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01:28:58.479 --> 01:28:59.880
other for granted and we think I can get away

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01:28:59.880 --> 01:29:01.600
with anything, and she needs to hear this from me

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01:29:01.680 --> 01:29:06.000
because I'm the only one anyway. So I think listening

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01:29:06.520 --> 01:29:08.319
is the starting point, because if you don't listen well

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01:29:08.560 --> 01:29:11.359
and they don't feel like you're trustworthy and say, they

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01:29:11.439 --> 01:29:14.199
won't unpack the real story, and then you won't know

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01:29:14.359 --> 01:29:16.520
exactly where to touch their heart.

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01:29:16.319 --> 01:29:20.880
When you communicate. Well, maybe sometimes what happens, Jeff, is

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01:29:20.960 --> 01:29:25.359
that they've unpacked the story, but your brain was occupied

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01:29:25.479 --> 01:29:29.199
with the response, so it cut off the channel to

1511
01:29:29.279 --> 01:29:33.479
where you could hear what the totality of the issue was,

1512
01:29:34.279 --> 01:29:36.800
and you grabbed onto a little bit of a morsel.

1513
01:29:36.880 --> 01:29:38.920
I say you, I've done this. I'm guilty of doing

1514
01:29:38.960 --> 01:29:43.439
the same thing and analyzing this and of course doing

1515
01:29:43.479 --> 01:29:47.960
what I do in doing interviews. It behooves me to

1516
01:29:48.079 --> 01:29:51.439
listen to the whole story, you know, to really hone

1517
01:29:51.479 --> 01:29:55.000
in on what it is the guest is communicating, right.

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01:29:56.640 --> 01:30:00.600
Yeah, especially if it's something pretty emotional, like a child

1519
01:30:00.680 --> 01:30:04.239
of yours is processing something sad at school they didn't

1520
01:30:04.279 --> 01:30:07.199
get picked for a team, or they fell and hurt

1521
01:30:07.239 --> 01:30:11.000
their knee. As parents, sometimes we just quickly jump into

1522
01:30:11.159 --> 01:30:14.560
it'll be okay, you know, you'll get over this, you'll

1523
01:30:14.600 --> 01:30:16.720
make the team next year, and we get into our

1524
01:30:16.960 --> 01:30:20.880
mentor encouragement mode before even meeting them in their emotion,

1525
01:30:21.239 --> 01:30:25.319
which is what they first of all need to kind

1526
01:30:25.319 --> 01:30:28.279
of help validate their feelings, let them know that they're understood,

1527
01:30:28.720 --> 01:30:32.159
let them process it. Then whether it's today, later on

1528
01:30:33.000 --> 01:30:35.279
or tomorrow or the next day, you can get into

1529
01:30:35.359 --> 01:30:38.920
some mentoring and coaching and encouragement. And I think that's

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01:30:39.720 --> 01:30:44.479
indicative of being very securely attached to someone when when

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01:30:44.560 --> 01:30:48.039
you give them validation of the list of what they

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01:30:48.159 --> 01:30:53.439
said and what they felt before you jump into coaching, advice,

1533
01:30:53.800 --> 01:30:59.399
mentor sharing, encouragement, even critique or correction. There's one of

1534
01:30:59.399 --> 01:31:02.680
the things I talk about and friendship, but it really

1535
01:31:02.760 --> 01:31:06.000
makes sense in marriage. Make sure that this relationship is

1536
01:31:06.039 --> 01:31:09.079
a no fix it zone. In other words, it's not

1537
01:31:09.159 --> 01:31:11.399
a judgment zone or I'm going to fix it zone.

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01:31:11.840 --> 01:31:14.079
So you want them to feel like you're not going

1539
01:31:14.159 --> 01:31:16.800
to judge them. They can get it out and you're

1540
01:31:16.840 --> 01:31:19.640
not going to quickly jump to fixing it with your advice.

1541
01:31:20.600 --> 01:31:21.319
To fix it is.

1542
01:31:21.359 --> 01:31:25.640
Their you know, responsibility, And if they ask for your

1543
01:31:25.680 --> 01:31:27.359
advice and you want to say, can I give you

1544
01:31:27.600 --> 01:31:30.479
my thoughts and they give you permission, then great. But

1545
01:31:30.960 --> 01:31:32.800
many times we jump into fix it mode and that

1546
01:31:32.920 --> 01:31:35.479
doesn't make us as safe and easy to communicate with

1547
01:31:35.640 --> 01:31:37.439
and have as good a friendship or marriage as we'd

1548
01:31:37.479 --> 01:31:37.800
like to have.

1549
01:31:38.279 --> 01:31:42.359
Yeah, well, and guys were wired to fix it and

1550
01:31:42.760 --> 01:31:46.920
that's part of the challenge and it's a bit counterintuitive,

1551
01:31:47.119 --> 01:31:50.920
and so it's wisdom that you're sharing with us today, Jeff,

1552
01:31:51.039 --> 01:31:54.159
is that we need to evaluate that because what happens

1553
01:31:54.279 --> 01:31:58.239
is when we interfere, we're frustrating. I know I did

1554
01:31:58.279 --> 01:32:00.560
this with my youngest son, and this has been a

1555
01:32:00.640 --> 01:32:03.520
process because I wondered, I said, God, why did you

1556
01:32:04.920 --> 01:32:08.039
why did you torment me with with this son of mine,

1557
01:32:08.359 --> 01:32:12.079
he's the youngest. And what it is is that he

1558
01:32:12.319 --> 01:32:14.600
wants to be able to share the issue with me.

1559
01:32:15.000 --> 01:32:17.479
He doesn't want me to fix it. He wants to

1560
01:32:17.560 --> 01:32:20.560
be the one to fix it. He he you know,

1561
01:32:21.159 --> 01:32:24.840
he wants the responsibility. But here I'm dad and I'm

1562
01:32:24.920 --> 01:32:28.640
trying to protect him and I'm interfering with his maturity

1563
01:32:29.640 --> 01:32:33.479
and it frustrates him and I But it's taken me

1564
01:32:33.560 --> 01:32:37.000
a while to see this, Jeff, that I was interfering

1565
01:32:37.119 --> 01:32:40.960
in so and it's hard sometimes, if not all the time,

1566
01:32:41.359 --> 01:32:44.000
to listen to him because he'll he'll go and he's

1567
01:32:44.079 --> 01:32:47.239
processing this and you know, and I just want to

1568
01:32:47.279 --> 01:32:49.640
grab and you know, and fix it for him, or

1569
01:32:49.840 --> 01:32:53.399
you know, start talking about solutions. He's not ready for solutions.

1570
01:32:53.439 --> 01:32:54.239
He's still venting.

1571
01:32:56.199 --> 01:32:59.840
Yeah, I have my youngest son. I asked him the question,

1572
01:33:00.199 --> 01:33:03.279
and he's a grown man now maybe thirty three or

1573
01:33:03.520 --> 01:33:07.039
so years old, and I said, hey, uh, Kegan, how

1574
01:33:07.079 --> 01:33:10.319
can I love you better as a dad? And he said, well,

1575
01:33:10.359 --> 01:33:13.279
you have finally started learning this because I've told it

1576
01:33:13.359 --> 01:33:15.760
to you before. But you're doing it Dad. You're listening

1577
01:33:15.840 --> 01:33:17.920
more than talking. And I used to talk to mom

1578
01:33:18.520 --> 01:33:22.000
because you wouldn't listen as much. You'd start giving me advice.

1579
01:33:22.600 --> 01:33:26.560
But now you're listening more, and so I'm talking to

1580
01:33:26.600 --> 01:33:29.880
you more. And that's exactly what you're saying. And different

1581
01:33:29.920 --> 01:33:32.600
people want to talk and they process slowly. We got

1582
01:33:32.680 --> 01:33:38.159
to be patient with them, right, So gosh, I think

1583
01:33:38.640 --> 01:33:42.560
be quick to listen and patient to listen and slower

1584
01:33:42.680 --> 01:33:48.720
to speak. Enter someone's emotional situation and validate their experience

1585
01:33:49.119 --> 01:33:51.960
before we jump into here's what happened with me. Here's

1586
01:33:52.000 --> 01:33:55.439
my idea. Have you ever thought about this? Can I

1587
01:33:55.520 --> 01:33:59.920
suggest this? This is so important in parenting, in marriage

1588
01:34:00.199 --> 01:34:02.239
right where you take too many liberties and you tell

1589
01:34:02.279 --> 01:34:04.520
each other your opinion of each other to fix things.

1590
01:34:05.199 --> 01:34:09.720
And I emphasize this in friendship. A man is only

1591
01:34:09.760 --> 01:34:11.760
going to have one or two really really close friends.

1592
01:34:11.800 --> 01:34:14.039
But if you're not a safe friend and he thinks

1593
01:34:14.079 --> 01:34:15.720
you're always trying to fix him or jump in with

1594
01:34:15.800 --> 01:34:18.239
advice too quickly. He's not going to open up and

1595
01:34:18.279 --> 01:34:19.199
tell you about a real.

1596
01:34:19.159 --> 01:34:24.039
Challenge, right exactly. But and I like what you did there, Jeff,

1597
01:34:24.720 --> 01:34:29.239
is you ask permission before you give your advice before

1598
01:34:29.279 --> 01:34:32.319
you enter in, you know, because that's what keeps a

1599
01:34:32.399 --> 01:34:35.600
safe space, right, And that's what you're talking about, is

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01:34:35.640 --> 01:34:38.319
that you want to protect that space in such a

1601
01:34:38.399 --> 01:34:42.199
way to where somebody feels comfortable that you know, you

1602
01:34:42.399 --> 01:34:44.920
can share. You know, like the Bible says that, you know,

1603
01:34:45.039 --> 01:34:47.640
we should confess our sins one to another. But in

1604
01:34:47.760 --> 01:34:51.319
confessing it just means let's talk real reality. You know,

1605
01:34:51.399 --> 01:34:54.279
let's get real man, fact right. And if I can

1606
01:34:54.359 --> 01:34:57.920
get real with you, then you know, what do we do?

1607
01:34:58.840 --> 01:35:00.640
You know, we pray for one in other that we

1608
01:35:00.720 --> 01:35:03.359
would be healed, that that burden would be lifted off

1609
01:35:03.399 --> 01:35:06.319
of us. And it's it's God's work that does it.

1610
01:35:06.520 --> 01:35:09.239
And we're co laboring with God to that end. We're

1611
01:35:09.319 --> 01:35:13.199
not otherwise we're going to be like Job's buddies, right,

1612
01:35:13.439 --> 01:35:15.640
who came and had all the answers for him, and

1613
01:35:15.720 --> 01:35:19.119
then what happened at the end, God said, you know,

1614
01:35:20.439 --> 01:35:23.600
no way to stop your approach, right, Yeah, so.

1615
01:35:25.359 --> 01:35:28.880
Well it really it really makes sense to be that

1616
01:35:29.079 --> 01:35:31.960
safe listening friend. That's our goal.

1617
01:35:32.840 --> 01:35:35.079
Well, Jeff, you know this is all part of the

1618
01:35:35.800 --> 01:35:38.920
I might say, the curriculum of what you've been doing

1619
01:35:39.039 --> 01:35:41.840
in your ministry, and maybe we got about a minute

1620
01:35:41.840 --> 01:35:44.199
and a half left, maybe expand on that and encourage

1621
01:35:44.199 --> 01:35:45.920
people to get involved. Yeah.

1622
01:35:46.000 --> 01:35:48.520
Well, the point of the sphere of my mission in

1623
01:35:48.600 --> 01:35:52.840
life is to really help men develop those deep, consistent,

1624
01:35:53.239 --> 01:35:57.239
intentional and safe. They've got to be safe, like you

1625
01:35:57.319 --> 01:36:01.479
can trust opening up friendships, intention friendships, and when you

1626
01:36:01.640 --> 01:36:04.520
process stuff like you were saying, confess your struggles and sins,

1627
01:36:04.920 --> 01:36:07.119
then you're living kind of in the light and things

1628
01:36:07.199 --> 01:36:09.720
get healed and solved in the light. But in secrecy

1629
01:36:09.800 --> 01:36:14.399
of darkness, they get worse. Right, that's where pornography gets worse,

1630
01:36:14.520 --> 01:36:17.960
or anger or drinking or some other problem. So I

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Every week to build deeper friendship right and and protect

1638
01:36:44.680 --> 01:36:47.800
you know, the integrity of these relationships and the honor

1639
01:36:48.439 --> 01:36:51.199
one another in these relationships, so that you can come

1640
01:36:51.279 --> 01:36:54.039
in and help carry the load that you know each

1641
01:36:54.119 --> 01:36:57.039
of us have. And this is what you know friendship does,

1642
01:36:57.199 --> 01:37:00.279
is it allows you to share and you know, come

1643
01:37:00.279 --> 01:37:02.439
alongside and support one another, right.

1644
01:37:03.880 --> 01:37:07.399
Exactly. I mean God invented teamwork, and the closest teamwork

1645
01:37:07.720 --> 01:37:10.920
is friendship. And of course the most intimate teamwork is marriage.

1646
01:37:10.960 --> 01:37:13.119
But friendship is the starting point. Every man needs his

1647
01:37:13.199 --> 01:37:15.439
couple close friends. Every woman needs her a couple close

1648
01:37:15.520 --> 01:37:18.079
female friends. And if you have good friendship, it actually

1649
01:37:18.199 --> 01:37:20.439
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Hey, welcome back. Glad you could join us. I'm Bill Martinez.

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She is Emily Washburn from Focus on the Family. She's

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the issues analyst for Focus. How you doing, Emily, Good

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to see you, Good to be back, Thanks for having me, well,

1735
01:41:53.880 --> 01:41:57.079
good to have you here. And talk about gender affirming care. Now,

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how should Christians respond here?

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01:42:00.479 --> 01:42:03.119
Will we shouldn't affirm That's the first thing. And the

1738
01:42:03.199 --> 01:42:08.199
second thing is that gender anything that sex affirming care?

1739
01:42:09.359 --> 01:42:12.520
That we should be affirming sex. So to affirm sex.

1740
01:42:12.760 --> 01:42:15.520
You affirm male or female the way that God created you.

1741
01:42:16.159 --> 01:42:19.399
Right, Well, the challenge is is are we holding to

1742
01:42:19.479 --> 01:42:23.239
a biblical worldview or not? And for some reason, people

1743
01:42:23.319 --> 01:42:26.600
of faith and Christians have gotten a little loose on

1744
01:42:26.760 --> 01:42:29.720
this in thinking, you know, I'm going to you know,

1745
01:42:29.840 --> 01:42:33.000
get along, to go along here, And what they do

1746
01:42:33.119 --> 01:42:38.039
in the process is they have abandoned their foundational faith issues.

1747
01:42:38.119 --> 01:42:38.479
Have they not?

1748
01:42:40.600 --> 01:42:44.600
Yeah, I think it's difficult for Christians because we've been

1749
01:42:44.720 --> 01:42:49.000
told that affirming is the way to be nice, and

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01:42:49.159 --> 01:42:50.640
is the way to be kind, and is also the

1751
01:42:50.680 --> 01:42:53.960
way to affirm form relationships with people right that are

1752
01:42:54.000 --> 01:42:58.439
struggling with sexual identity confusion. And what I really want

1753
01:42:58.479 --> 01:43:05.399
to emphasize is that someone that is transgender identified is

1754
01:43:05.840 --> 01:43:11.000
really in distress, and so to affirm that is only

1755
01:43:12.119 --> 01:43:14.520
going to further put them in distress.

1756
01:43:14.680 --> 01:43:18.399
Right, they are in They're under attack from.

1757
01:43:18.399 --> 01:43:25.039
Satan at an identity level. And what I've reported on

1758
01:43:25.199 --> 01:43:27.520
and what the Daily Citizen is reporting on, is that

1759
01:43:28.039 --> 01:43:35.039
the medical interventions that they're doing are irreversible and tragic,

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01:43:36.000 --> 01:43:41.600
and they don't have often the knowledge to consent to them.

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01:43:42.319 --> 01:43:46.359
So there's no reason that Christians should be affirming them.

1762
01:43:47.279 --> 01:43:51.279
Well, when you consider other countries, for example, I mean

1763
01:43:51.359 --> 01:43:53.560
the world itself. I mean, we always to often talk

1764
01:43:53.600 --> 01:44:00.279
about America being this grand laboratory of fifty states, but

1765
01:44:00.479 --> 01:44:03.359
you know, there's been a lot of global influence. Let's

1766
01:44:03.399 --> 01:44:06.199
take a look at what's happening around the world with

1767
01:44:06.399 --> 01:44:11.119
other countries that have ventured into this arena. I'm not

1768
01:44:11.239 --> 01:44:13.640
hearing a lot of positive I mean, in fact, I'm

1769
01:44:13.680 --> 01:44:17.359
not hearing any positive empirical data that would come in

1770
01:44:17.439 --> 01:44:20.039
and say, well, maybe we just need to study this further.

1771
01:44:20.239 --> 01:44:22.960
I think we've studied it enough to the damage of

1772
01:44:23.079 --> 01:44:27.680
people that are not going to be able to recapture

1773
01:44:28.279 --> 01:44:32.079
life and have any kind of normalcy. There are going

1774
01:44:32.199 --> 01:44:36.520
to be attached to chemicals and prescriptions for the rest

1775
01:44:36.560 --> 01:44:41.439
of their lives because of you know what has happened here,

1776
01:44:42.000 --> 01:44:46.159
this experimentation on people's humanity.

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01:44:47.640 --> 01:44:47.840
Yeah.

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01:44:47.960 --> 01:44:51.359
So the reason that the Health and Human Services in

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01:44:51.439 --> 01:44:55.600
America actually last year did this four hundred page report

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on how damaging these sex rejecting procedures can be is

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01:45:00.039 --> 01:45:04.680
because in Europe they did the cast report, which was

1782
01:45:05.800 --> 01:45:11.119
in Britain, which was looking at the UK's sort of

1783
01:45:11.800 --> 01:45:14.960
all of their national health service and all of the

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01:45:15.039 --> 01:45:18.439
interventions they'd done. They were way ahead of us on

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01:45:18.600 --> 01:45:22.840
this issue. And that report was that the evidence base

1786
01:45:23.039 --> 01:45:26.840
was so weak for this issue, and we had done

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01:45:27.159 --> 01:45:31.680
we had given puberty blockers, sex rejecting surgeries and wrong

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01:45:31.760 --> 01:45:37.199
sex hormones to children with no evidence. And so HHS

1789
01:45:37.399 --> 01:45:42.600
wanted to expand on those findings and see.

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01:45:42.439 --> 01:45:45.159
If we could confirm them, and we did so.

1791
01:45:45.760 --> 01:45:48.760
Actually Europe more than just the cast report, right, so

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01:45:49.000 --> 01:45:52.399
in Denmark and Finland and Sweden, all of those places

1793
01:45:52.479 --> 01:45:55.640
are rejecting now what they started.

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01:45:55.720 --> 01:45:57.079
They're saying they're.

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01:45:56.880 --> 01:46:00.640
Actually backing away and saying we didn't have the evidence

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01:46:00.760 --> 01:46:01.159
to do this.

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01:46:02.520 --> 01:46:05.000
And here you think in America that we would put

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01:46:05.000 --> 01:46:08.159
our kids in danger. I mean, this is this is

1799
01:46:08.279 --> 01:46:11.520
incredible Emily to me when you think about how our

1800
01:46:11.680 --> 01:46:15.800
children have been under attack, whether it's education, whether it's healthcare,

1801
01:46:16.359 --> 01:46:20.479
whether you know this specific issue. But then you know Christians,

1802
01:46:20.760 --> 01:46:24.760
people who are standing in the gap and shouting from

1803
01:46:24.800 --> 01:46:28.880
the rooftops you are heading for a cement wall. I mean,

1804
01:46:28.960 --> 01:46:32.439
to me, that's the true expression of our faith and

1805
01:46:32.560 --> 01:46:35.640
the love for our fellow men, as opposed to allowing

1806
01:46:35.720 --> 01:46:39.359
them to continue to do this. Kind of irreparable damage

1807
01:46:39.479 --> 01:46:43.359
to their own humanity, certainly, and I.

1808
01:46:43.439 --> 01:46:46.199
Think that there's a balance there for sure.

1809
01:46:46.279 --> 01:46:50.439
We never want to forget that experiencing confusion about your

1810
01:46:50.520 --> 01:46:55.319
sexual identity is deeply debilitating in something.

1811
01:46:55.039 --> 01:46:57.840
That we never want to forget is.

1812
01:46:59.439 --> 01:47:03.960
Is really horrifying, and it's something that Satan wants, right

1813
01:47:04.119 --> 01:47:07.039
like that male and female is something fundamental in God's

1814
01:47:07.119 --> 01:47:09.640
design and there's a reason that Satan is attacking it.

1815
01:47:09.880 --> 01:47:12.960
So we want to have compassion for people that are

1816
01:47:13.159 --> 01:47:17.520
experiencing it and for people that have been taken in

1817
01:47:17.760 --> 01:47:21.680
by the fad. But we also certainly do not want

1818
01:47:21.760 --> 01:47:26.319
to say follow that right, No, that's the attack. We

1819
01:47:26.439 --> 01:47:30.439
want to say, No, you are made perfectly and wonderfully.

1820
01:47:30.560 --> 01:47:33.119
You were made with a purpose, and we want to

1821
01:47:33.239 --> 01:47:36.640
affirm your biological sex, which is male and female, and

1822
01:47:36.720 --> 01:47:41.840
there is a design for that, right. So I think

1823
01:47:41.960 --> 01:47:48.520
Christians really need to understand how fundamental biological sex is

1824
01:47:49.159 --> 01:47:52.359
to God's design. And I think once you understand that

1825
01:47:52.600 --> 01:47:55.560
and you have your theology correct on that, it becomes

1826
01:47:55.760 --> 01:47:59.840
very difficult to affirm anything that's going on in this issue.

1827
01:48:00.640 --> 01:48:03.680
Well, I think the challenge we have in today's culture

1828
01:48:04.359 --> 01:48:06.800
is that you know, people want to look at it

1829
01:48:06.880 --> 01:48:09.199
through a lens of you know, it's kind of gray. Well,

1830
01:48:09.239 --> 01:48:13.399
it's not so black and white. No, God is very specific.

1831
01:48:14.359 --> 01:48:17.920
It's it's not I mean, it's it's the world that

1832
01:48:18.119 --> 01:48:22.520
wants to take the yes and no, the definitive lines

1833
01:48:22.600 --> 01:48:27.279
and boundaries that God has established that you know, take

1834
01:48:27.439 --> 01:48:30.600
man out of the picture. Here his crown and glory

1835
01:48:30.680 --> 01:48:33.079
for a moment, and you look at it. And what

1836
01:48:33.399 --> 01:48:36.439
did God say after the final day of creation? It's

1837
01:48:36.560 --> 01:48:40.680
really good, and even said that as the capstone to

1838
01:48:40.800 --> 01:48:44.920
the creation of man and woman, that it's very good. Right,

1839
01:48:45.880 --> 01:48:48.479
But yet, as you said, we can call it what

1840
01:48:48.600 --> 01:48:52.760
it is, the devil, evil spiritual forces that are against God,

1841
01:48:53.319 --> 01:48:56.600
that are telling young people and telling parents that it's

1842
01:48:56.680 --> 01:48:59.520
not good. And so it goes back to what last

1843
01:48:59.560 --> 01:49:02.000
time you and I talked about this. You know, one

1844
01:49:02.039 --> 01:49:03.960
of the things that keeps coming over and over in

1845
01:49:04.039 --> 01:49:05.960
my conversation is who told you that?

1846
01:49:07.720 --> 01:49:07.880
Right?

1847
01:49:08.119 --> 01:49:08.359
I mean?

1848
01:49:09.000 --> 01:49:11.159
And so if you pause for a moment and ask

1849
01:49:11.279 --> 01:49:14.279
that question, you know, who told me that, then maybe

1850
01:49:14.319 --> 01:49:18.600
you can begin to decipher, you know, the voices that

1851
01:49:18.760 --> 01:49:22.439
you're listening to and what kind of trajectory they're putting

1852
01:49:22.479 --> 01:49:25.760
you on. Are they adding to the confusion or are

1853
01:49:25.800 --> 01:49:27.279
they eliminating the confusion?

1854
01:49:29.359 --> 01:49:33.159
Yeah, well, it really depends. In a lot of cases.

1855
01:49:33.479 --> 01:49:37.119
I think there's some ideological capture at the highest level

1856
01:49:37.399 --> 01:49:40.640
in the education system and in the medical system. So

1857
01:49:41.119 --> 01:49:46.479
most recently I reported on the Federal Trade Commission who

1858
01:49:46.800 --> 01:49:52.680
is suing the World Professional Association for Transgender Health, which

1859
01:49:52.760 --> 01:49:56.840
is an advocacy association for all of the people that

1860
01:49:57.159 --> 01:50:02.560
make money from sex rejecting procedures, but it masquerades as

1861
01:50:02.920 --> 01:50:06.840
a medical association like the American Heart Association.

1862
01:50:07.560 --> 01:50:11.880
So the allegation is that it.

1863
01:50:13.880 --> 01:50:18.640
Basically misled parents into believing that their kids would commit

1864
01:50:18.760 --> 01:50:24.359
suicide if they didn't get sex rejecting procedures, and it

1865
01:50:24.520 --> 01:50:30.199
did that to make money. So it and not just parents, right,

1866
01:50:30.279 --> 01:50:32.399
it did this to kids. And it also it made

1867
01:50:32.479 --> 01:50:39.159
misleading statements about the amount of evidence behind the sex

1868
01:50:39.239 --> 01:50:43.720
rejecting procedures so that insurance companies would pay for them

1869
01:50:44.239 --> 01:50:45.640
because that's how they make their money.

1870
01:50:46.239 --> 01:50:48.880
Right. Yeah, it's all about greed, there's no doubt about it.

1871
01:50:49.159 --> 01:50:51.279
And the thing is is that I keep asking the question,

1872
01:50:51.840 --> 01:50:56.720
how many children have committed suicide prior to you know,

1873
01:50:57.039 --> 01:51:00.279
just as a result of sex confusion versus children who

1874
01:51:00.399 --> 01:51:06.279
were you know, went through these incredible processes, horrific medical

1875
01:51:06.359 --> 01:51:10.279
procedures and everything. And we're hearing more of them committing

1876
01:51:10.359 --> 01:51:15.680
suicide than children you know, prior to because here they are,

1877
01:51:15.840 --> 01:51:19.560
their brains are impacted by all this drugs, all the

1878
01:51:19.640 --> 01:51:23.279
drugs and chemicals and everything that's involved, and they're hoping

1879
01:51:23.439 --> 01:51:26.920
upon hope that you know, they've revd themselves into this,

1880
01:51:27.640 --> 01:51:34.119
you know, this confused state, that they become desperate. Well,

1881
01:51:34.199 --> 01:51:37.079
if they become desperate and then there's no solution, what

1882
01:51:37.319 --> 01:51:39.359
is the solution then.

1883
01:51:40.800 --> 01:51:46.760
Well, I mean most basically kids. The US contract law

1884
01:51:46.880 --> 01:51:51.560
says that kids under eighteen cannot sign contracts, So we

1885
01:51:51.680 --> 01:51:56.520
shouldn't even be allowing children anywhere near You cannot allow

1886
01:51:56.600 --> 01:52:00.640
a chriald to sign a contract to amputate healthy body parts. Right,

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that shouldn't have even been part of the conversation. I

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don't know how.

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It still baffles. It's baffling to me.

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Well, it's just again what we started out with. It

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just demonstrate how pervasive evil has come into our culture now,

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how it is today.

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Yeah, and again there's some manipulation here, some lies here,

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there's absolutely parents, and we've talked about this, that are.

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Broken themselves that.

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Are pushing this on their kids, and that is a

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whole new sort of form of evil. But there are

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also parents who we are worried for their kids, who

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go to the doctor looking for direction and the doctor says,

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the only way to save your kids, would you rather

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have a dead son or a living daughter? And they

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take that advice at face value because it's a doctor, and.

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Now a lot of them.

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You know that FTC had a whole month long comment

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period where parents like that could tell them their experience,

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and they got testimony after testimony of parents saying that's

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what I was told at the doctor's office, and I

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didn't feel like I had a choice.

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So what is the action for Christians to stand in

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the gap against this evil?

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First and foremost, get your theology right on male and

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female right. And that doesn't just mean knowing Genesis. It

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means understanding that God's creation is founded on male and female.

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So male and female together is the image of God.

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When male was alone, it wasn't perfect. It was male

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and female together. And then together we have the creative

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capacity to create more people, which is something that no other.

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You know, that's we're invited.

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Into God's creative capacity, right, so, and that's how we

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fulfill his first commandment. So there's something very special about

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male and female. So the fact that Satan is attacking

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male and female, what is male, what is female is

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very important and we need to understand why that attack

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is significant. The second thing you need to do is

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that as soon as your child can comprehend words, tell

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them that you are female, you are male, and that

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is good. Emphasize to them that is a good thing.

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And tell them too, it doesn't matter if they like pink,

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it doesn't matter. If they like blue, it doesn't matter.

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If they like baseball, doesn't matter, if they like ballet,

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it doesn't matter. Any doesn't none of their preferences matter.

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It is how God created them and no one can

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change that doesn't matter what anyone tells them. And it's

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important that you tell them that before they go to school,

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especially if they go to public school.

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And you have to maintain some vigilance and understand what's

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happening because as we're seeing again, our government is exposing

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the kind of indoctrination and propaganda and the lives, flat

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out lives that are happening in our educational system. We

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send our kids off thinking, hey, we're they're gonna learn reading, writing, arithmetic,

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01:55:24.239 --> 01:55:26.680
and all of a sudden, you know, we realize all

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this other scepterrifuge and the empowerment of the state over

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01:55:32.359 --> 01:55:36.199
the empowerment of parents is taking place. So, you know,

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in terms of the consent of the government, it really

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bodes us. It's a warning for us to get involved

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and understand what's happening. And I think that's one of

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the things the great takeaways of COVID, right because we

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found out when education was exposed what was going on.

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Right, absolutely, Yeah, parents were starting to listen to what

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their kids were learning because it was all online.

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Well, Emily, we got to leave it there. Thank you

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01:56:02.640 --> 01:56:05.479
so much for coming on. Emily Washburn issues analysts for

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Focus on the Family and also she writes for the Family.

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Said Daily Citizen, where can the people go for more information? Emily, Yeah, if.

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You go to the Daily Citizen dot org, you can

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find more about how to deal with this issue from

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a biblical perspective and the significance of male and female

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