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0:00 Are you ready? Yeah. Okay, let's do it. Bill Martinez Live, a program about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and our future. And now, Bill Martinez. Good morning, America. Bill Martinez here, six minutes right after the top of the hour. And we've got Mike O'Neill from Landmark Legal. Michael, how are you? I'm good, Bill. Good to be with you. Always good to be here. J.D. Vance, the fraud czar, is coming up with some numbers. And even though these numbers sound massive, I mean, we're talking billions of dollars, you know, lest we forget, Elon Musk, right off the bat, if you remember, said, I could find at least a trillion.

0:42 And they all but tarred and feathered him because that money is, that's political money. It's not just taxpayer money. I mean, we're talking, you know, graft, we're talking, you know, things that, oh my goodness, when you open up Pandora's box there, and you really start seeing what this is connected to, I mean, you're really going to be upset. I mean, it cracks me up. As upset as people are, the American people are right now about gas prices, it's like they're not even half upset about all the fraud and waste that's been going on for decades. Give me a break. I know. I think it's almost you're just built into the system, and people have just come to accept it. Well, I don't accept it, and I don't think any of us should accept it, particularly in light of the fact that we're facing a $ 40 trillion deficit or debt. debt burden, and we're facing $ 2 trillion of deficits every year. And I think what you just think that this is just free riders and free money. And the more you talk about it, the more you uncover it, the worse it gets.

1:40 It shows that fraud grift is utterly pervasive in virtually every system you can imagine. And I think you want to ask yourself, where do you start? You know, how do you eat an elephant? And I guess you just say one bite at a time. So you saw the efforts from one of the most brilliant visionaries of our time. Elon Musk was put, you know, was tasked with this at the beginning of the Trump presidency. And he had designated individuals and began to uncover things. And of course, the machine took over and forced him out. J.D. Vance has been tasked, has picked up the mantle lately. And I think a lot of his future political aspirations are contingent upon how well he does this job. But I think what you saw this week was just important.

2:22 Every week, every system you want to look at is rife with fraud. It's just it's infected with this fraud and free riders. Let me just say this, though. What he's discovering is like just in one state. OK, I mean, and you're talking billions in one state. Right. It's always the 49. I mean, America, wake up, smell the coffee, see what this, you know, this Leviathan of this bureaucratic, unelected administrative state, what they have done to this country, what they're doing to you, your children and your grandchildren. Yeah, absolutely. And this is one, for example, we're talking about specifically 760,000 names of people, 760,000 individuals improperly or fraudulently enrolled in the ACI health insurance programs. So multiply that out. 760,000 people getting free health care, whatever they want, whatever is taking advantage of them, whatever it is costing.

3:23 And where does the burden fall for this? It falls on the American taxpayer. Now, there's a couple of things that are going on, I think, when you begin to pull the curtain back on this. I generally think, well, generally think, let's talk about the systems in place here. Systems are, in the United States, are built on trust and truthfulness. The recognition that the people who are making representations in context within that system are being truthful. Tax system, for example, when you fill out your tax returns, you're being truthful in the deductions you're claiming. You're being truthful in your salary. You're being truthful in all the representations you're making to the Internal Revenue Service. That system is based on Trump. The IRS can't audit everybody. Tens of millions of IRS tax returns are filed annually, hundreds of millions, however many there are. The IRS can't audit any of them.

4:12 The system is predicated on the principle that you are making truthful representations. Similarly, and look, the tax system isn't alone. All of our systems are basically doing that. When you enroll to obtain a visa, for example, Or fill out a work visa in the OPT program, for example. This is something I've talked about before, an F-1 visa. The DHS is going to make sure that you're filling out the form correctly, but they're not going to check to see that the business you're saying you're going to work for is actually a business because they just can't physically check hundreds of thousands of applications for this. So it's predicated on the fact that you're making truthful representations. Now, most Americans are truthful. Really, it's funny when you look at it, and this is kind of one of these interesting things that kind of from an outsider's perspective boggles the mind. Most people tell the truth on their tax returns, sincerely, really.

5:04 When you look at it, we're pretty much, I mean, yeah, you have some lies here and there, but most of the time people are truthful about how the representations they make. And generally speaking, most Americans are truthful. Yes, we lie. Yes, you commit light lies. But when you're sitting across the table selling your car, for example, and the guy across the table says, Hey, if you've been in a car wreck, you know, Bob, I actually have to be honest. I was in a car. And you know what? You actually get that. You get a degree of honesty within the American culture and the American person and the citizenry. You see where I'm going with this? What happens when you bring in millions of people who don't consider truth a virtue? Or a moral imperative, right? Truth doesn't mean anything. Making truthful representations to people you're talking to.

5:50 Yeah, because if you lied to get in to begin with, what you will do next is predicated on what you've done before then. That just follows suit. Yeah, or if you come from, and look, this is going to be a tough thing to say, but I got to say it. Look, if you come from a culture that doesn't value truth, that doesn't value honesty, that maybe prioritizes something else, but doesn't say, okay, well, we're going to get into a fair negotiation and I can negotiate with you in good faith that the representations that you're making to me are going to be truthful. It's not going to be rank duplicity that you're having to deal with, just straight up whys that are being told to you, right? And if you have millions of people who come into a country who do not have that same system whereby they value truth as a virtue and a moral imperative, then of course, and then you have systems predicated on truth and honesty, the bad actors are just going to take advantage of that. And who are the victims here? The victims are the American taxpayers. Look, any system you uncover, look, it's not a coincidence that Look at what's happened in Minnesota, for example, in Minneapolis, that every single daycare center in Minneapolis, well, they identified a vulnerable system. Oh, all I have to do is say I'm running a daycare center and I'm going to get thousands of dollars? Well, of course I'm going to say I'm running a daycare system. It doesn't matter if I'm running a daycare system or not. I'm not running a daycare center. But I could say I'm running a

7:21 daycare center and say I have six kids enrolled and get $ 5, 000 a month from the government. Well, you're going to do that. Or, oh, you're telling me that I can get free healthcare if I just simply fill out this form and say these things? Okay, of course I'm going to get healthcare. It doesn't matter if it's truthful or not. Or, oh, I'm going to get a job, I'm going to have my visa extended here for another three years if I say I'm working for this company. It doesn't matter whether there's a real company. It doesn't matter whether there's a real person or there's a real manager. I'm just going to say it so I can stay in the United States. I'm just lying on my form. Well, did I fill out the form correctly? Okay. I don't have a problem doing that. And you see this in every system, healthcare, childcare, medical, political system. It doesn't matter. Oh, I'm just going to fill out this ballot. It doesn't matter whether I'm eligible or I'm a citizen or not.

8:03 I'm just going to fill out this ballot to make my vote count because somebody is going to tell me I should vote for this person. That's the problem here is you have to have, when systems are predicated on truthfulness, trust, and honesty, you're going to have bad actors take advantage of that. But you have to reward that, Michael. You have to reward honesty in a way that, hey, look, you get your job. But what happens, you get people there, and I've seen it happen, where people will tell people, this is what you have to say. And even though it's not true, don't worry about it. You've got to put this down in order to qualify for Obamacare, in order to qualify for these government subsidies and these programs. So that's You know, that's part of the problem because we are we're incentivizing all the wrong behavior.

8:50 Yeah, we're incentivizing it. And also we are abetting it in the fact that we are importing masses and waves of people. I'll tell you what, let's go to quick break. We'll pick it up on the other side. We got more from Mike O'Neill after this. Stay with us. Everything is expensive right now. Gas, food, you name it. You're spending more. You are making the same or less money. So what do you do? You rack up credit card debt. That's what you do. It's not your fault. It's the economy. And guess what? If you rack up too much credit card debt like some of us, you can't pay your bills. Then the credit card companies, as nice as they are, start hounding you for money. Then you start your downward spiral.

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14:43 Yeah, absolutely. You have, I mean. Again, as I said, how do you eat an elephant one bite at a time? It's like, where do you stop? I think, first of all, you stop bringing in individuals who don't share the same value system that are necessary to ensure that our systems function properly. Again, you don't let in people who are going to be dishonest. You just don't. If there's large swaths of people from certain parts of the world that are coming to America and defraud the American taxpayer, hey, guess what? Stop letting those people in. Well, yeah, okay, that's number one. Then the folks that are doing it here who are not, who can be sent out of the country, send them out. The people that are committing the fraud, you know, then the people, then you can only prosecute so many people.

15:26 It's funny. You talk about this and you're like voter fraud and you see the department of Homeland security or department of justice prosecuting people for voter fraud. And we're prosecuting 5,000 people for improper, you know, for illegally voting. Do you understand like the amount of work that goes into prosecuting 5,000 people? It's like it's so hard. It's so much work. You have to have the prosecutors. You have to have the juries. You have to have the criminal system, et cetera, et cetera. 5,000 people. You're just beginning to try to address the little bits of it. So, again, you have to begin to hold people accountable, begin to make examples, right? I'm going to take these individuals, ActBlue, for example. This is an organization that is actually functioning, at least as I can see, as a money laundering operation. You know, they take money from foreign, they take NGO money, at least as I understand it, take NGO money, wash it through, and then roll it back into political contributions using micro contributions, using names of people who never made the contributions. And you're like, this is just mind-boggling, prosecuting that. High-profile example prosecutions are the order of the day. Removing individuals who are dishonest, who are fraudulently bilking the American taxpayer is another thing to do. But again, you have to begin to understand this and unravel it. Yeah. And then try to recoup money.

16:42 The EPA, for example, is doing a good job with this under Lee Zeldin. All this money that went out at the end of the Biden administration in the terms of billions of dollars. The gold bricks over there. Right. Recoup that money. Say, hey, NGO, you're just you were just literally this group, this group that received a billion dollars. That's a tax exempt organization that was literally created months before they received this government grant. Hey, guess what? We're going to recoup that money. But again, all of this takes enormous amounts of work. Prosecuting people takes an enormous amount of work. Uncovering the fraud, going to the, verifying whether the person's an actual citizen, whether the business is in place. You got to think about this. It takes a long time when it's to the degree. to which it's so rampant and so endemic in our systems. But again, look, and this is kind of getting lost in it. I think you've got to give some credit where credit is due to the administration. They're trying to address this. You are seeing there are affirmative efforts, you know, the task force.

17:37 You see, if you look at some of these agencies, they're really working on it. Housing and urban development is trying to identify fraud within the housing systems. You know, people getting bad fraudulent mortgage loans, for example. That's another system. EPA we talked about. It's so pervasive. See, this is the deal you talk about is that what happens is that it's not just in any one part of bureaucracy. It's throughout the entire bureaucracy. That's the problem with the lie or, you know, as the Bible would talk about is the leaven. The leaven goes in and it affects everything. And I would like to see something again that is at the spout. You got to go to the spout and turn the spout off.

18:19 And these people who are government officials, whoever you can prove, you know, you need to start lopping some heads off. You got to fire these people. I mean, the fact that, you know, you've been flat out lying to the American taxpayer for whatever reason, I don't know how you could possibly justify that. That kind of behavior, knowing that... I mean, how do you go to work someplace that says, okay, this is the way we do it. We lie and cheat and we just do this. That's the point, though, is when you don't have a compunction with lying and cheating, you or I are like, yeah, how do you go and lie? I mean, how do you live every day when you're just defrauding people? How can you do that? But when you have... large segments of the population that have no compunction with that, who don't consider that an improper or their conscience doesn't kick in and say that's wrong, then it's abetted. Oh, another good point here. Here's a systemic way to address this.

19:08 A lot of this is these omnibus spending bills, right? Well, the Inflation Reduction Act that was passed by Congress at the tail end of the Biden administration authorized these billion dollar grants, To these NGOs through the Environmental Protection Agency. Right. You're like, hey, here's a smart idea. How about not having 1,000-page omnibus spending bills with little micro lines of awards to certain groups and certain organizations that nobody catches, right? Oh, I'm going to give a billion dollars to this group for environmental justice. Stacey Abrams. Yeah, let's give her. She doesn't even have a business. She had, what, $ 200 in her bank account, and all of a sudden $ 2 billion or something like that shows up? It's nuts.

19:49 It's absolutely nuts. Make actual, again, there's just so much to begin to address this, and that's why it's laudable. Again, what I was just going to say, almost every administrative agency you mentioned, I can say, okay, Department of Agriculture is trying to attract bad farm loads, for example. It's like, It's the order of the day in the administration to try to get a hold of this. So that is laudable. Now, again, the Congress has a role. I would love to see a law that says, look, if you're going to make any kind of appropriation over $ 100 million, it has to have its own bill. These omnibus spending bills are just problematic because it's thousands of people. Yeah, you can hide all kinds of fraud in there. Yeah. Exactly. I mean, I could spend hours and hours. How do you fix this? It's like, where do you begin to address it? I've illustrated, I think we've talked about a number of things. Stop bringing in people who have no compunction with lying. Kick out the people who are here legally or legally who are lying. Begin to make high-level, high-profile prosecutions of individuals. Put pressure on Congress not to just throw money out the window just because it sounds good to them, actually process this, and then begin, again, begin to get a hold of entitlement spending and get a hold of maybe some systemic reforms of Social Security, Medicaid and Medicare. But again, you know, that's a lot to ask.

21:06 Yeah. Well, that's the problem is it's so massive, this Leviathan, and this is what allows them to continue because they can hide just by the sheer number. And then it's like, okay, who's going to take this over? And What's happened is that these institutions are so grounded in helping people and they feel entitled to that money. And how dare you take that money away from me? And they're going to be upset and riot because now their lifestyle is compromised. But then what about the people in Social Security? They've been paying in Social Security all their working lives, and all of a sudden now it's going to go bankrupt in five years? Are you kidding me?

21:51 Yeah, I mean, and that's the thing is there's going to be– the music's going to stop at some point, right? The music has to stop. You cannot continue to engage in this profligate spending nonsense without having some accountability at some point. And we can only borrow so much and we can only pay interest so much and go forward so much before– serious, the rubber meets the road and we meet serious consequences. As you said before, you're facing this fiscal cliff with social security. That's going to be a wake up call to a lot of people. But you start, I always thought to myself months ago, you know, when we're, excuse me, at the beginning of the administration, I was like, and I think I've said this before. The good news is if you start to cut out fraud, suddenly our, our, financial future is going to look that much better.

22:35 You imagine what we could do? But what does it mean to cut out fraud, right? How much work goes into cutting out fraud? It's a hard slog. It's not easy, but you got to do it. Yeah. No, there's no question. But again- The first step one is admitting to the problem, right? I mean, quit listening to the mainstream media and all these political voices that are telling you and gaslighting you and get down to what we started when we first started discussing this is get down to the truth. What's the truth? The whole truth and nothing but Mike. I know it's funny. It's funny what grapples with the media's attention. You know, oh, boy, CNN Politico lost their White House credentials. Oh, boy, there's a White House ballroom being constructed. Oh, boy, there's a new granite seal on the White House lawn. It's like, oh, boy, Trump said something, you know, that offended somebody at the United Nations. Oh, boy, Trump.

23:30 And I'm like, hey, guys, $ 40 trillion. $ 40 trillion. You know what I mean? Hey, guys, there's a real problem out there in our society. Hey, guys, there are millions of people in the United States who've come into the country in the past 15 to 20 years who have no problem bilking all of your money, taking all of your hard-earned tax dollars and fritting it away for their lifestyle choices. You and your wife might work hard and earn about $ 200, 000 in income, $ 35, 000 in federal income taxes. And anywhere from like 10,000 to 15,000 of that is just flittered away for fraud and nonsense. And you don't see it because there's folks in here who have no problem with bilking you and taking your tax money away.

24:11 Think about that. Every time you say to yourself, oh, boy, I'm driving a car that's 14 years old. Or, oh, boy, I can't go out to dinner tonight. Oh, boy, this. Well, guess what? Five, you know, a third of the percentage of your taxpayer's dollars go to some fraudulent, nonsensical individual who comes in here and is taking it away from you and taking money out of your children's mouths. That's my bottom line. That really is true. Who cares what's going on with the White House lawn? Or who cares? It doesn't affect you. What affects you is how much money you have at the end of the day after you've come home from work and are trying to put food on your family's table. And how much of that money is going to the federal government? How much of that money that goes to the federal government is gone for nonsense and crap? That's it. That's where I leave it there. Mike O'Neill from Landmark Legal.

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29:19 What do you make of that? Hey, we've talked about Greenland many times in the past. Quick reminder, we were actually active in World War II. In Greenland, we captured three Nazi military guys in September of 1941, three months before the Japanese attack Pearl Harbor, we were actually defending the coast of Greenland because we were worried that the Germans were going to use Greenland as a base of operations against the North Atlantic. So our interest in Greenland as a strategic outpost against potential European-based enemies goes back an awfully long way. I think it's fantastic that the president has pulled this off You know, I struggled to find any coverage of this in the New York Times over the weekend. CBS and ABC and NBC, similarly, didn't seem to think this was a big story.

30:10 I wonder why. Yeah, well, of course. I mean, we know why. I mean, it's been consistent of the mainstream media. This is why, you know, Trump's kind of had it with them and saying, hey, look, you know what? When I do press briefings in the Oval Office, I'd rather you not come, you know? Absolutely. I think that's going to be very interesting. I'm not a lawyer. I don't play one on TV. But as I understand, I can read. I was taught to read. And the first five words of the First Amendment that everybody is citing, the first five words of that amendment say, Congress shall make no law. I don't see Congress making a law about CNN and MSNOW and Politico being in the White House press room one way or the other. Congress hasn't done anything here. So why is this a question of the First Amendment? The president hasn't said CNN and MSNOW and Politico are banished. He hasn't said these are no longer going concerns. We're going to snuff them out. He simply said, you know what, space in the White House press room is at a premium. And I see no reason that space should be taken up by people that I disagree with when there's plenty of other people who don't publish stuff that I disagree with that's so obviously fake, that's so obviously wrong. There was a wonderful piece in Breitbart over the weekend that was just column after column of all the stories that CNN had reported on, spent time on, and gotten wrong. And the other thing is that's so bothersome, obviously to the president, but to regular

31:43 consumers of news is that when we now know it's wrong, they never go back and correct the record. Oh, no. Forget about correcting the record. They don't even bother to say, sorry, we got it wrong and move on. They just don't acknowledge it at all. It's like it never happened. It's gone down the memory hole. So I think this is going to be very interesting to watch and see how it plays out. Yeah, and the deal, the mainstream media, which galls me, you know, to your point, they're on this issue. Oh, Trump just doesn't want it there because he disagrees with him. No, it's much more obvious, to your point, than that, but they're not about to report. The order of the day is we've got to do everything we can to make Trump look bad or certainly not look great. But yet, how do you, I mean, you can bury this story.

32:28 And like you said, we've been talking about this for months and this was a commonsensical thing. And we've had other presidents, Republican and Democrat, just kind of ignore this issue. But where we are now, where the threats are increasing, This is critical to have this area. It's critical to our national security. And do you think the mainstream media would side? No, they just think, oh, it's just Trump. He's out there just capturing land and, you know, planting a flag and putting his name on everything. And, of course, it was funny that Gary Bauer said something to the effect that at least Trump wasn't insisting that it be, you know.

33:09 Called Trumpland or something. You know, they changed the name to Greenland. You know, and if you go back and you watch this thing from the beginning, this is classic Trump in the art of the deal. You start off by demanding the sun, the moon, and the stars. And then when you settle for the sun... It looks reasonable. Okay. He demanded sovereignty. He knew he wasn't going to get sovereignty. He knew he wasn't going to send U.S. armed forces to capture Greenland from Denmark. That wasn't going to happen. But by demanding that at the beginning, now he's got what he really wants, which is he's got an agreement in perpetuity. The United States has the right... and the authority to do what it wants for security purposes. Secondly, Russia and China never going to have a base in Greenland.

33:54 That's absolutely crucial if you want to control the North Atlantic routes into the Atlantic and therefore to the eastern seaboard of the United States. This is brilliant diplomacy pulled off in less than a year. I think we should all clap for the White House. We should all thank President Trump for doing this. that the, I don't know, MSNOW, CNN, and Politico Troika, that they've chosen not to report on this, may have something to do with why he thinks there are better people to take up those spots inside the White House press room. And keep in mind, all I'm saying is inside the White House press room. He's not saying they can't cover the White House. There are guys out on 17th Street with the White House as the background.

34:42 Go ahead. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Well, the thing is, it's interesting, you know, Bill, if you remember, you know, back in the sixties, the way the Russians would negotiate, they would go, they'd reach for the stars and, and whatever they got less than that was still a lot more than they originally hoped to get. And that's, you know, in a lot of ways, this is what Trump does as you know, he, he goes, he reaches for the stars and, and look what he's done every time with these deals that he's made on behalf of the American people. And that's what I say that's so much different than him that I, you know, what he does, it's always to help the American people, it would appear. I know some would like to say, oh, it's sort of his family and, you know, they've got some benefit here and now they're worried about Don Jr.

35:26 's wedding and what have you. And they're trying to get, it's so interesting how they're, you know, how they're trying to intertwine Don Jr. and Hunter Biden, right? And Hunter, right. It's just unbelievable. But anyway. We got some more important things to talk about. Not to say that, you know, securing Greenland and Denmark isn't. I mean, this is awesome. What a great victory. We can do a victory lap on that one. But let's talk about the latest with AI. What's going on? Well, we have an effort all around the country. You All of a sudden, AI data centers, these hulking towers that use up energy, this has now become apparently grassroots Americans' biggest concern. It's no longer affordability. It's all about data centers. They don't like the sound. They don't like the footprint. They don't like the noise. They don't like their electricity bills going up. So John Husta, the Republican senator from Ohio... came up with something called the Ratepayer Protection Act, very simple bill that says that the tech companies can't pass the increased cost of energy on to consumers. Now, energy is a commodity like anything else. And when there's not enough of it to satisfy demand, what happens? Prices go up. So while they're surging, pardon the pun, while

36:57 they're surging to fill the demand, nevertheless, that means that prices are going up. And right now what's happening is those higher prices are being passed on to consumers. So Senator Houston comes up with a bill that says, hey, if there's a new AI data center that's just popped up and it's gobbling up all the energy in an area and driving up prices for everybody, it's the tech company that has to pay that higher price, not the consumer. Makes sense. This thing made so much sense that when it was considered in the House of Representatives last Tuesday, a week ago today, 417 to three. Bill, you don't get 417 members of the House to agree that the sun rises in the east and that water is wet.

37:42 So the idea that this bill got 417 votes behind it says to me, well, it must be a pretty good bill, very popular. So it comes over to the Senate. Now, the Senate has different rules. We've talked about that over the years too. And Simply because of the schedule of the Senate, in order to get anything moved through the Senate, first you have a motion to proceed. But before you can vote on the motion to proceed, you have to vote to end debate on the motion to proceed. And each one of these things takes two days off the calendar. So Senator Houston went to the floor of the Senate and asked for unanimous consent, because that's the way to bypass the rules. If all the senators agree, boom, it moves like grease lightning. So he asks for unanimous consent.

38:26 And guess what? Martin Heinrich, the Democrat from New Mexico, stood up and said, I object. And in doing so, he blocked all the consumers in the country who are paying higher prices for their electricity now. All of them can thank Martin Heinrich and the Democratic Party in the Senate for stopping this legislation from going through. If he had simply allowed it to go through, that bill would have passed with unanimous consent. It would have been on the president's desk Thursday afternoon, and he could have signed it that night. Instead, for however many months until they get this worked out, maybe never, who knows, because it serves the Democrats' interest for people to be paying higher prices as we move into an election, doesn't it?

39:10 Of course it does. They're the opposition party. They want things to be bad. They want everybody to look at Washington and say, Darn Republicans. Again, my prices are higher. They're not paying attention to the fact that it was a Democrat who blocked a unanimous consent request. It's outrageous. I hope everybody... you know, Martin Heinrich isn't on the ballot this year. Senators are only on the ballot once every six years. So he doesn't have to go before the voters this year and pay the price for that. In fact, I'm pretty sure that's why they picked Martin Heinrichs, because he's not on the ballot this year. Eventually, I think something will come out of Washington and the tech companies will pay the higher prices rather than regular consumers. And that's a good thing.

39:54 But it's just another indication, another example of Democrats... who talk a good game when they're back home about how they're fighting in Washington on behalf of their constituents, but in fact, they're really not. They're really sticking it to their constituents when they have the opportunity. Well, you know, when it passes, it's going to be mired with all kinds of additives that are going to favor the Democratic Party and Democratic officials, because that's the way they. Roll, Bill. Well, and they've all of a sudden, you know, a couple of weeks ago, we had the leaders of the big companies, the big AI companies, Google's DeepMind and OpenAI's ChatGPT and Anthropix, Claude, the guys who are making the what we call the frontier AI, the guys that are out on the frontier pushing the edges of the envelope.

40:47 They all of a sudden came out and said, you know, We've been totally unregulated for a long time, and that's been good because we've now established ourselves as the leaders in this emerging technology. But, you know, we look back over our shoulder and we see all these new companies coming up, coming up on our heels. And, you know, it might be really helpful We just froze everything in place for a while so that our shareholders can continue. To reap the benefits. Let's put out the yellow flag, huh? That's it. You know, I mean, it's, hey, we climbed up that ladder to the top level and now we want to kick the ladder away and make sure that nobody else can come up and become our competition. So maybe the government should put a freeze on things. Maybe the government should step in and regulate the heck out of AI.

41:31 And to his credit, President Trump has said, no, we got a bigger picture that we're worried. We're not worried about the little guys catching up to you. In fact, we like that because that always leads to new developments that benefit everyone. That's the history of technological development. New development and lower prices, Bill. Right, exactly. More options for consumers. Exactly. That's what... new technology. That's what the history of new technology is. And instead, President Trump is focused on the bigger picture, which is the competition with China. We have been blessed to have technological developments over the last two centuries that have made America the leading technological development country in the world. And that has benefited all of us. We need to make sure that we continue to lead the world in AI and that we don't let China win this race. I don't want to have my grandchildren have to learn to speak Mandarin so that they can get along in the world.

42:33 That's not what I'm looking forward to. We're certainly in the position to control our destiny. God forbid that we would let party politics get in the way of it. But, oh, that's right. It's happened before. Bill Pascoe, TPP's Citizen Fund political director. Bill, where can they go for more information? TeaPartyPatriots.org. TeaPartyPatriots.org, Bill. Thanks for having me today. A new study finds a major increase in STEM learning in after-school programs, but gaps remain. Today, 92% of parents with children in after-school say STEM is available, up from 69% a decade ago. That's 6.4 million kids now getting STEM in after-school. Emma Binet, Overdeck Family Foundation.

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47:09 Hi, Bill. Good. I'm out here at the field after a granddaughter's soccer game. Well, how much fun is that, huh? I tell you, you know, moments like that, you just feel like, okay, God, I could die and go to heaven right now after... you know, having fun like that with a granddaughter and stuff. I'm with you. Yeah. I'm thankful to be a part of their lives. It's great. Yeah. Amen. Hey, I wanted to talk to you about trust. Trust is an issue that's coming up time and again, particularly because we're in the political season heading to the midterms and people are wondering, you know, can I trust my government? Can I trust the candidate that I want to, you know, give them my vote, you know, and It just seems more and more that trust is becoming a bigger issue in our culture than almost ever before that I can remember.

48:00 Well, that's probably because, you know, trust is the basis of relationships. Is someone going to be predictable and reliable in the things that they say and do that they've committed to? So we know marriage is based on trust. I commit to you in good and bad, tough times and good times. Um, And then you're looking for trust in a, a business that you can trust people to be honest with the money and to represent your company. Well, um, you're looking for trust on a football. Team or any athletic team that if you sacrifice and pass the ball here, someone's going to sacrifice and work hard to get there. Or, you know, the defense is going to do their job. Um, government is comprised of imperfect people. Um, and I think it's not terribly worse.

48:49 Than it was before. But the media environment, I'm not just speaking of the professional media, but the social media environment has become so skeptical of everything. And the time cycle has become so short that people have kind of compromised what they committed to long term so they could win this election or look popular. So I think it's important that we talk about trust, look for that in our candidates. But mostly we got to be trustworthy. Exactly. It starts with us. I mean, you get what you give, right? Yeah. Yeah. No, you're exactly right. Is that, you know, I always say we have to look at the man or the woman in the mirror. You know, it starts with self-responsibility.

49:30 You know, it's been said that people elect who they deserve. And so if your foundation is your trustworthy foundation is compromised, chances are that's who you're going to elect, right? Yeah. I think. We make quick judgments because it's faster and kind of easier to put people in boxes and labels. And then that shrinks the dialogue. And then they act in a certain way and you assume, oh, that's what they were going to do anyway. And then there's less trust than when there's conversation and relationship. So I think we need to be more willing to talk to people on both sides of the aisle.

50:12 Right. More willing to not just start with the label, but say, Hey, I'm curious. Why do you believe that? Why are you working for that? And I, my dad was in politics for so much. Of his life. And I think he always gave the other party credit for wanting to make America better. He just thought that their policies weren't the right way to get there. So it was not attacking their spirit or motivation or character as much as That idea isn't good. The goal might be good, and I can join with you as an American on that, but let's have a free and fair debate. And it gets more difficult when we just assume the other side has bad motives. Right.

50:52 Well, the thing is, is that, you know, as the Bible talks about, you know, reasoning together. Well, in reasoning together, just what you said, I think during the era when your dad was in politics and he was so influential in leadership, The general consensus was, yeah, I think both parties were heading for the same goal. You know, what can we do to resolve the problems that America and Americans are experiencing? And, you know, so it was a matter of we're looking at the same end result, but it was more a debate over the procedure and the process. Today's a little bit different, though, but go ahead.

51:33 Well, I was going to say, I'll admit that. 30 years after the era I'm speaking of, in the late 90s and when my dad was in Congress and such, ideology has shifted with the loss of truth to a lot more define reality as you want, dream that socialism is going to work, and then try to tear down institutions and others so we can come in with something new. And there's certainly some Folks, that's really their goal. But I wouldn't say every person in the Democratic Party is aiming at that, just as every person in the Republican Party isn't a knee-jerk, extreme, you know, un-nice person or whatever the characterization is.

52:23 But we do have to look at the ideologies that have. Gone kind of more extreme than the era we were talking about where Democrats and Republicans were aiming at the same goal largely but had different techniques of getting there. Right. Exactly. Well, and the point is, is that are we even, you know, in the broader sense of America, are we heading in the right direction? And right now, as you said, you know, the media and, you know, and they need to be consciously aware. You know, Trump has been in conflict with the media, calling them fake news because they've lost a sense of objectivity. I was just sharing with somebody earlier, I remember in my days of radio, in the early days of radio, Jeff, we had UPI and AP reports, and we had the machines back in the room that we would go whenever we had to do a news report, and we would rely on that information.

53:16 And that information was mostly objective. It was just the facts. There wasn't a lot of opining and politicization of what was going on. It was a news report. And I miss that. I miss having, you know, that that thread that gives you, you know, some objective reporting on, you know, what's what's happening, you know, what's happening in Iran. Just give me the facts. Let me decide. I'm I'm a big boy. I, you know, I'm studied enough that, you know, given the information I can I can choose and decide what I believe in. I don't want to be told by somebody who has a political bent how I should think.

54:00 Yeah, I think you and I are encouraging everyone listening to us to work hard to find more objective perspectives on news. And if you can't find that, look at both sides and kind of figure out what do you think is more in the middle and realistic. And over time, I do think pendulums swing and there's been such a loss of trust because everything has been so ideological and politicized and less objective that Some solid news sources or some solid people giving us accurate information should rise to be popular again. But we have to make those choices. We have to look for that. And we can't just criticize the other side and blindly, you know, say, oh, I like my news source.

54:45 We're going to look for what's objective. So truth takes honesty. You know, living in the light. I was talking about living in the light, disclosing who you are and what's really going on. That's something we need in America. And it starts with me. And I think it starts with the Christian faith because Christian faith tells us we can live in the light because our sins are forgiven by God. And even if we admit how messed up we are that we messed up, there's forgiveness and grace. And if there's no grace out there, then people are going to hide and they're going. To pretend they didn't mess up. And that's where you lose trust. And I think this is where leadership can come into play. And I think that America is looking for that kind of leadership to take us from where we are right now into a better place, a place where, you know, we can, again, trust our fellow man, trust our government, trust the institutions. And, you know, and so there's some work to be done, as you said, an individual effort.

55:44 And then in the individual efforts of these agencies and these institutions that have been created, you know, we had hoped that they'd been created for the good of America and the good of the world. I mean, look at what America is, how, how America has contributed to the welfare, not only of America and Americans, but the world at large, Jeff, we got about a minute left. I'm going to let you wrap it up. Go ahead. Well, I'm grateful for a democratic Republic. I'm grateful for the public servants that have worked in the past. I'm grateful for the role the media has played at giving us information, but, I too am concerned, but I can only work on myself and be more objective with how I see information and what I spread that I don't overly characterize other people. And you and I both want that sort of individual responsibility to grow trust starting in our own relationships. And if they're interested in strong relationships and friendships, that's what my menhuddle.com website.

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58:10 Getting america back on track bill martinez live. Well good morning six minutes after the top of the hour bill martinez here and uh she can run but she can't hide it's been a minute or two it's been too long actually since uh terry beatley and i've been able to get together hey terry good morning to you good to have you back with us thank you bill good to be back Well, a little bit of the background here for those of you that I don't know how you'd be missing, Terry, because she's been so out there when it comes to life. She's the author of Pro-Life Activist and founder and president of the Hosea Initiative in 2009. She was personally commissioned by Dr. Bernard Nathanson, NARAL's co-founder. He was the architect of the modern abortion movement to share his deathbed conversion and reveal how America is was deceived about abortion. And this has been her recent march and commitment for a decade plus now, right, Terry?

59:08 That's it. Oh, yeah, plus a decade. Plus. Yeah, don't forget the plus. Yes, exactly. His legacy is so, it's more relevant today, Bill, than any time in history, because He's the one who deceived, he and his partner Lawrence Slater, deceived the United States Supreme Court into that whole Roe v. Wade decision. He's the one who trained Planned Parenthood doctors on how to, quite frankly, slaughter babies in the womb. And he's the doctor who did what Dr. Fauci said to do, which is follow the science. And Dr. Nathanson starting in 1973, the same year we got Roe v. Wade, What Americans don't know is that the father of the modern day abortion industry followed the science of real-time ultrasound, which was a brand new invention back in 1973. And he was an atheist. As an atheist, he saw that baby moving and yawning and stretching on real-time ultrasound. And the father of America's industry of abortion begins his pro-life conversion.

1:00:17 And nobody knows his story. Right. Exactly. Well, and you were charged to be the one to carry this message out. And it was a huge mea culpa on Nathanson's part because, you know, he had to realize, like we all do, is that we're going to be judged. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm glad you mentioned that because I interviewed him on December 1st, 2009, at his apartment in Manhattan, New York. And he had been pro-life, 100% pro-life since 1979. So it took him from 1973 to 1979 to make that 100% conversion. Rape, incest, life of the mother. There's no reason to ever go kill the baby. You know, the life of the mother it's well, if the mother's life is in danger, remove the baby, but remove the baby, at least with the intention of trying to preserve the baby's life.

1:01:15 Right. Okay. So, so he had been pro-life a hundred percent since 1979. He, he, he spent the second half of the 1980s contemplating suicide because just, he had really come to grips with what he had done in unleashing this culture of death. He, along with how many women that had abortions that have committed suicide or have been, you know, have certainly considered suicide. We know that, that it's very well documented, Terry. Yes, it is. And that's very much covered up. In fact, the other day I was talking with a lady who used to be a physician's assistant. She's now retired, but she was a PA, physician's assistant assistant. at the VA hospital. And she said years ago, so we got Roe v.

1:02:08 Wade, 1973. I believe she was talking about like the late 80s into the 90s, maybe into the early 2000s as well. And she said all of a sudden they started seeing women coming in in their 40s and 50s in the VA hospital and they were having anxiety attacks. And she'd run all sorts of tests and all this. Nothing would ever show. And then she learned that the question she needed to be asking is, do you have abortion in your past? Your history, yeah. And she said, I'm like, you mean every, and she's like, yes, Terry, every single woman who was coming in with those symptoms, all of them said yes. And they'd either burst out crying or they'd realized that they had never dealt with that grief. And so we have a nation, Bill, with millions of women who are dealing with this or they've never dealt with it. And so why is Nathanson's story so relevant? Here it is. Because nobody, nobody, including that woman who's had three or four or five abortions, okay, because she just didn't know, nobody can out-abort Dr. Bernard Nathanson.

1:03:21 He was personally responsible for 75,000 abortions, including two of his own children, okay? And he came clean. He did his 100% pro-life conversion as an atheist. And then on December 1st, December 8th, December 6th, oh my gosh, I'm blank, December 8th, 1996, Dr. Nathanson became a baptized child of God at St. Patrick's Cathedral in New York City. He laid down his way to the Lord's way, and he received the love and mercy of Jesus Christ, which is why we're doing that Mercy for Life Sunday, October 11th.

1:04:03 Okay, since you brought this up, now this is a a nationwide coordination. You got 250 plus churches involved, united in prayer and interceding on October the 11th this year on America's 250th birthday. Go ahead and tell us more about that. Yeah. So it's our birthday, 250 years, all year long, right? And we went into prayer trying to figure out, well, what do we gift a nation in its 250th anniversary of independence and freedom And what our nation needs more than anything is God's unfathomable mercy for our apathetic response to legalized abortion. Because we now have 65 million children who have died at the hands of an abortionist. And so what we're doing is we've launched this. I mean, our goal is minimum 250 churches. We need more churches signed up when we want them in all 50 states.

1:05:05 Not one state left behind. And so what is it? It's during Mass, after Mass, during the prayer service or after the prayer service or whatever. And even if the pastor says, no, I'm not going to participate in this. Well, then let the body of Christ come together after the prayer service or the Mass and lift up very specific prayers. And we have those prayers posted on the website. It's right there. So if people go to Hosea4u. org, so it's H-O-S-E-A, like the book in the Bible, Hosea, the number four, and then Y-O-U, Hosea4u. org. And look for the tab up top that says Mercy for Life. Click that open. It explains everything I just went over. It shows you the four or five buckets of prayer that And then as you scroll down, we have all the different downloads. Like, what do I take my pastor to introduce this? And we have a letter to the pastor. We have general information form. We've got the top 10 facts about Dr.

1:06:15 Bernard Nathanson. And then below that section, we have the one page of prayers of the faithful, and it covers everything. And if the church, if the body of Christ, and I don't care what flavor, okay, if the body of Christ would come together on October 11th during Mass, after Mass, during the prayer service, or after the prayer service, if the pastors aren't going to lead, Well, then you got to lead for them in that way, if they're too afraid of this issue, and just lift up these prayers, seeking God's unfathomable mercy. And so we need churches in all 50 states. So people go onto the website, they click on I'm interested in bringing this to my church.

1:07:00 And go ahead and give us your contact information. Once you've gotten approval from your pastor, come back and fill it out again and give us the name of the church, the pastor's name, maybe the contact info. But worst case scenario, let not one church go by where somebody from that church is at least one person at the church lifting up these prayers. Amen. Amen. A new study finds a major increase in STEM learning in after-school programs, but gaps remain. Today, 92% of parents with children in after-school say STEM is available, up from 69% a decade ago. That's 6.4 million kids now getting STEM in after-school. Emma Binet, Overdeck Family Foundation.

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1:12:22 And what a lot of pastors, priests included, do not Really, it's hard for them to get their brain around. But, you know, Barna has done research on this, other groups as well. Approximately a third of the women in the pews on Sunday or during their weekend services have experienced an abortion. So now let's relate that to the families in the pew. You probably are getting maybe about 40 or maybe even close to 50 percent. So almost half of the people in the pews, they're attending church, have been affected by an abortion. And it is one of these silent mental killers that is devastating women. And I dare say, you and I talked about this the last time, is more and more men are coming to the reality because men are natural protectors of their family. And they're coming to the realization that, oh, my God, look at what I've done. Can God forgive me?

1:13:18 Yes. And yes, God can forgive and God will forgive. All one has to do is repent for his or her sin for the involvement of abortion. Fall on your bended knee, pour your heart out to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. And he promises us he will forgive you. That's the beginning of that whole healing process. That's what Dr. Nathanson had to do. He spent a number of years going to psychologists, psychiatrists. He went back, even though he did, he did not have an, what'd he say? An ounce of, of.

1:13:59 Faith in his life. But he went back to a Jewish rabbi and he said, you know, I feel really bad about all the abortions and unleashing that. But the rabbi didn't have the answers for Dr. Nathanson. And just, I mean, his path crossed with a clergyman happened to be a Catholic priest. And for five years, Dr. Nathanson and the Catholic priests would read the Bible, would read great, great books like from G.K. Chesterton, Thomas Merton, reading all these great writers of the past. And and somewhere in the five and a half years, Dr. Nathanson stopped contemplating suicide and he began contemplating the love and mercy of who we call Jesus Christ.

1:14:45 Yeah. And that's when he was baptized, December 1996. So what God, I believe, is doing with this powerful, true story of Dr. Nathanson, it's leading the way to help people realize that, well, wow, if God could forgive Dr. Bernard Nathanson, who unleashed all this onto our nation, surely God could forgive me. And that's what's happening, Bill. And I believe October 11th is going to be a breakthrough for our nation. So in a perfect world, this is what it would look like in a perfect world. The pastor would say, oh, I think this is a great idea. He or she would equip every family of their church with at least one fact check booklet, which people can go get those on our website. It's called America's Abortion King, His Journey from Deceit to Divine Mercy. It's very inexpensive and it's even less expensive. It's like $ 4 or so for an individual.

1:15:52 The church or anybody can get a case of $ 200. which it ends up being like a dollar 70 or something per booklet. And it teaches you just enough of the Dr. Bernard Nathanson legacy, the eight point strategy of deception, his parting message to America, which he told me to deliver. And I would be remiss if I did not share that. Um, so in a perfect world, the pastor says, yes, we're going to do this. Every family gets equipped with a fact check booklet. Um, And he starts teaching people about Dr. Bernard Nathanson, perhaps even before October 11th. And then the church together, collectively, let's lift up those prayers. We'll get signed up for our email so we can continue because we're all about, we call it Educate for Action, Expose the Lies. Educate for action. Stop the killing. I believe, Bill, when we do what the Word of God says, my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. It doesn't say my people are destroyed for voting for the wrong political party or da-da-da-da, which does have major implications. But the main thing is it's for lack of knowledge. So, you know, I meet people every day who did not know that there are many politicians and there's a political party. I'm not going to name which one, but they are for killing babies all nine months of pregnancy, including when the baby's coming down the birth canal. And that could be like, you know what? I really don't want this baby. Go

1:17:22 kill it. I don't want this baby. That's literally legal now in, well, quite frankly, if you look at, anyway, in many, many states, they've now ratified that in law. And we're losing the states. I mean, Roe v. Wade's overturned, but now the issue is in the state's hands and we're losing the states left and right. And this is why Nathanson's legacy is so important. We have to wake up First, the body of Christ. And if we can get those people educated, they can go educate other people who may not know the Lord yet. And guess what? We've created a revolution to unite the United States of America. Right now, we're a divided country. We have to be the United States of America. And the number one thing we have to be united on is united on life, united on the fact that every single human being has the right to life.

1:18:15 Exactly. Well, what united us in the first place, Terry, was the word of God. And it's the word of God that will break that stony heart. That needs to come to the forefront because there is a call for repentance. But you don't repent if you don't know what you're repenting for. Right. Exactly. And so you need to bring that needs to come into focus is that what we have done is we grieved a holy God. And when you get your brain around that, and I think that's what Bernard Nathanson finally came to that realization, is that he offended God. But as you said, God in his grace and mercy is just waiting for us to say, Father, I am sorry.

1:18:56 Please forgive me. And I think people will find themselves very blessed and amazed at how forgiving God is. May I tell you one story about a man I met at a Baptist church ever so quickly? Okay. It drives the point home. There was a Baptist minister in Virginia who wanted me to come and present all about Dr. Bernard Nathanson. I call it the deadliest American hoax. It's about an hour presentation. And the church was packed. It was on a Wednesday night. Wow. When it was over, people were walking up thanking me. But one man walked up and I must have been standing on the the step. Cause I remember sort of looking down at him. And the reason I share that is because he was looking up at me in the most child like way. And that's the only reason I'm sharing this. Like I'm looking down at him. He's looking up at me and he said, Ms. Beatley. And this guy was 50 some years old, pushing 60. And he said, thank you for coming and sharing this, this legacy. He said, until tonight, he said, I've been going to this church since I was a little boy. I'm here every Wednesday night, every Sunday night. And he said, and it's not the pastor's fault. He said, but I literally thought abortion was literally a woman's right. It was a woman's right to choose.

1:20:19 Until I learned tonight that that was one of the eight points of propaganda Dr. Nathanson devised. I'm like, Thank you. And I've told that what I just told you and your listening audience. I've told that all across America. This this battle, I consider it done when more and more men step into the fray, step into this battle. And it starts with get educated. OK, I don't say this to just tout the book because I want millions of books sold. No, I wrote it to educate America. We got two things. We got the big book called What If We've Been Wrong? And you can go right to Amazon and get that. And then we've got the fact check booklet. And we wrote that because we knew not everybody's going to read the big book and learn the real full, full backstory. But that fact check booklet, which is like $ 4 or $ 4. 50, something like that, it teaches everybody just enough. And it's so nice. You don't want to throw it away. And you can sit down with somebody and share. Like if your granddaughter says, you know, granddad, you know, I'm pro-choice. You know, I just graduated from college, and I learned it's a woman's right to choose. Well, granddad could say, sweetheart, I know you think you're pro-choice, you know, which technically means pro-abortion. But, sweetheart, have you ever heard of the man named Dr. Bernard Nathanson? No, granddad, I've never even heard of him.

1:21:44 Who's that? Well, sweetheart, come on over here. I'm going to sit in my recliner, and you sit over there, grab the pillow and the blanket, and I'm going to tell you a story. about a man named Dr. Bernard Nathanson. And I promise you, Bill, that if we can teach men and women across America to share this beautiful, beautiful story from deceit to divine mercy, we will be lighting a fire of truth across our nation. And we will, I'm already seeing it, but we, millions of more people will see this. Romans 8, 28. God promises us, it's a promise that all things work together for good to those who love the Lord and are called according to his promise.

1:22:34 That even includes the legacy of Dr. Bernard Nathanson. It's like people would be like, what good can come from Bernard Nathanson's story? What good can come from it is make it widely known because he didn't die an abortionist, Bill. He died a baptized child of God, fully repentant for this culture of death. He left behind. And he wanted everybody to know this. And I'll wrap it up with this. At the end of the interview on December 1st, 2009, I didn't go there for this. In fact, I didn't even think the interview was going to happen. But I didn't have this question written down. I asked it because I felt so sorry for this 83-year-old, terminally ill, dying man.

1:23:19 He was dying of cancer. And he was very, very frail. And at the end, I said, Dr. Nathanson, I know you're too sick to get your message out anymore. If you have a message for America, and if you tell me what it is, I promise you I'll deliver it across our country until it becomes common knowledge, Roe v. Wade's overturned, or I die, whichever one comes first. And Dr. Nathanson, and honestly, I thought he was going to say, Terry, my day is done. You know, I'm not going to be around very much longer. You pro-lifers take it from here. He didn't, Bill. He looked up at me and he said, because I think I was standing then, and he looked up at me with the only time there was a little glimmer of hope in his eyes. And he said the following. He said, yes. He said, teach the strategy of how I deceived America.

1:24:12 Wow. Hmm. And that's all in that little $ 4 fact check booklet. And then he said, and then tell America that the co-founder of NARAL Pro-Choice America, which was the pro-abortion political action organization he founded in the late 60s. So he said that the co-founder of NARAL Pro-Choice America says to love one another. Abortion is not love. Stop the killing. The world needs more love And I'm all about love now. Wow. Terry Beatley, the author, pro-life activist and founder and president of the Hosea Initiative. Terry, again, the website as we wrap up.

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1:29:37 More than 333,830 new cases are expected this year. While breakthrough treatments are helping patients live longer, staying on therapy remains a critical factor in improving outcomes. Advanced practice providers, what we say, APPs, including nurse practitioners and physician assistants, help patients navigate complex treatment decisions and stay on track with care. And to support that work, Johnson & Johnson, the Advanced Practitioner Society for Hematology, created the Make It Happen campaign, which highlights APPs and their crucial role in cancer care by providing resources, education, and opportunities to improve patient-centered care in all settings. As I mentioned, APP's Victoria Wong and Tim Weimer, who specialize in genitourinary cancers, are here to tell us more about it. Victoria and Timothy, welcome to the show. Good to have you with us.

1:30:36 Thank you for having us. Well, Victoria, let me ask you. September, as I mentioned, Prostate Cancer Awareness Month. How do APPs collaborate with oncologists when caring for prostate cancer patients? Yeah. So we are very excited to be here on behalf of Johnson & Johnson to raise awareness about how APPs do collaborate with physicians. And I love that word. It really is a collaboration because I work very closely with my doctors and team and we take clinical data and use that to help navigate our patients through different treatment options and decisions that are available. I spend a lot of my time on education and helping patients review different side effects that they might encounter on their prostate cancer treatment.

1:31:25 And throughout their journey, I will order different laboratory testing, radiology imaging, and monitor them for any toxicities or trouble they might be having on their treatment. You know, Victoria, I'm glad you used the term team. I know that when I went through my experience, they made me feel we were all part of the team, you know, even the patient, you know, so That was very comforting, just to say. Yeah, I appreciate you sharing that. I really do feel like it's a team effort, and we all work together. Right. Well, Tim, as I mentioned, big number. New prostate cancer cases, 333,830. Wow. Estimated just coming up in 2026 alone. So what role do you play as a family nurse practitioner in early detection, patient education, or referral for advanced cases?

1:32:15 Yeah, so I'm a family nurse practitioner. I've been doing this for about 20 years in a urology setting. So, you know, the most important things that we can stress is really making sure you're getting your screening done, right? So that starts out with a PSA level, typically done by your primary doctor. You know, you want to make sure you get that level done. Not that just, you know, don't take the term like everything is normal. Make sure your PSA level is done and then kind of understand that value. Meaning that value has a number assessed to it and that those numbers are zero to four and you want to know where that number is. And then importantly, what that, where that number's going, right? It's about that trend of that number is really the key thing, right?

1:32:57 Not just that it's above four, that it went from one to three in a period of a year is a critical, important step in that. From there, you know, once you're either, your number is elevated above four or going quickly. you're seeing me or the urology practice in regards to getting checked for that. What's the cause? What's the cause behind that number being up? And that means we start ordering checks, numbers, MRIs, biopsies if needed, and then making those diagnosis of prostate cancers there. If we've caught it early, you know, then we decide on what therapies are needed or if it's, you know, a little bit later in the course, what advanced therapies are needed to treat the cancer. You know, Tim, some, uh, Perspective patients didn't really quite understand the PSA reading. And I'm glad the way you spelled it out there from, you know, zero to four.

1:33:47 I was monitoring mine and I saw mine, you know, consistently climb every year. And finally, I just I had to go in for the biopsy and deal with the reality that I had prostate cancer. But but the PSA was critical and I was monitoring that constantly. And what age is. is it recommended that males have a PSA test? So if there's family history, we want it around the age of 40. After that, if there's no family history, you should at least get a baseline around 45, just to get an understanding of where you're at, where you're starting at. So you can do what you just said, is kind of follow that number to make sure it's not going up inappropriately or too quickly.

1:34:31 Right. Victoria, your passion for oncology started as a patient volunteer in hospice. How does that experience shape the way you approach patient care for advanced prostate cancer patients? Yeah, I was very lucky to have that experience as a hospice volunteer because it taught me a lot of things that, you know, just reading through a textbook can't teach you. When I was with patients and their caregivers towards the end of their journeys, I've learned a lot about things like bedside manner and empathy. I also learned that in talking to these patients that it was really important for them to feel like they had some sort of control and felt like they had a voice in their treatment decisions. And truly, I bring that to every patient-centered approach and every interaction that I have with my patients and make sure I go the extra mile to make them feel heard.

1:35:27 And Victoria, what you experienced, that's the only place you're going to experience. You can't get that out of a book. I agree. I think that education is obviously very important, but having personal experience is something that you can't learn just from a textbook. You really have to be able to work closely with patients to learn that. Exactly. Tim, walk us through your roles as an advanced practice provider and what supporting patients looks like day to day. So in dealing, once a diagnosis of prostate cancer has been made, then it's a matter of you know, patients will get that kind of, you get that meeting with your provider, you're diagnosed with prostate cancer and you're kind of in shock and are told a lot of information all, all of a sudden. And then you have like a couple of weeks where you're going to go see, you know, different types of doctors to make different decisions on treatment. So, you know, one of my roles is to help kind of navigate patients through this and give them a, you know, an ear, you know, essentially have them be able to help them guide because Once you get out of that visit, you're kind of just kind of in shock and also have a ton of tons of questions. That's really where the APP comes in. You know, we can help kind of guide you through the process, get you there, help give you an understanding of why we're doing this. And then as time goes on and as you're getting treatment, what to experience, what side effects you can have occur, and then kind of understanding if this is normal, not normal.

1:36:52 And then as time goes on, if you're treated or cured, you also want to make sure that you're still watching your PSA, right? So it's important if you're doing well, that you still want to know that your prostate level is something that can go up again or you can get reoccurrence. So, and that's where the APPs come in as well. If we start to see these things, we pick these things up early and then get you back in and screened again or tested again. So you're making sure you're getting the right type of medicine and therapy. Yeah, Tim, I can tell you for me, I check it twice a year. I just routinely, you know, do that. So, you know, my doctors are on top of that and I really appreciate their support. Victoria, why is it so critical that prostate cancer patients stay on track with their therapy?

1:37:33 Adherence or staying on track is very important because we've learned that that helps provide the best possible outcome. I think it's really important for all the listeners to know that even if patients have an advanced form of prostate cancer, that we can still look at it like a chronic illness. Patients are maintaining their quality of life on treatment and a lot of times getting their treatment at home. But we know that when there are more treatment options available, that that can lead to greater complexity. Patients will have more information and questions and concerns. And I think that's where APPs really shine because we really do want to help the patient understand and feel confident why they're on treatment.

1:38:19 Why they are. On this type of treatment and how to take the treatment. Patients feel comfortable and feel like they're heard and that their questions are addressed. They have a higher likelihood of staying on this treatment, which again can lead to the best possible outcomes. Well, exactly. Kim, as we wrap things up, the last question for you, I mentioned earlier, National APP Week coming up. What message would you want the broader healthcare community to understand about the APP role and the value of mentorship? Yeah, just like Victoria said, I mean, the big thing is really we're here for our patients and for our people. You know, we're kind of a, you know, a bridge to help patients understand the process that they're going through, to answer their questions that they're going through. And we want to make sure as, you know, cancer is, and cancer treatments are at a very high space right now, very high speed. They're really evolving quite quickly. And, you know, there's a lot of understanding and learning that needs to be made for patients to understand and for also the providers to understand. And that's where APPs come in. You know, we're able to kind of help bridge this gap with the patient and their providers to help make sure they're getting the appropriate care.

1:39:34 Well, APPs Tim Weimer and Victoria Wong have been our guests talking about the latest things to consider, you know, why it's so important to stay on track with your therapy. And for more information, Victoria, where should our listeners go? Yeah, I would encourage our listeners to go to the website, appsmakeithappen.com. So that's appsmakeithappen.com. And here you will find different resources and educations for everyone, whether you're a patient, a caregiver, or just someone who wants to learn more and get it from a reliable source.

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1:44:43 Thanks so much for having me on your show again, Bill. Always great to be talking to you. Lots to catch up on. You know, I know Grandparents Day has been here and gone, but... You know, Grandparents' Day, I know a lot of grandparents feel like that should be every day. Right. Well, because their influence is not just on a day, it's constant. We would hope so anyway, right? It definitely is, and probably even more so in this day and age, because our children are needing a lot more help from us to help raise their children, sometimes because of The economy that in most cases, both parents are working and child care is very expensive. So often grandparents are stepping in the gap there to help their children out and their grandchildren.

1:45:37 But to me, more important is what grandparents can deposit into the grandchildren. I mean, the wisdom of the ages, their experience is so invaluable. You know, Joan, as you know, many cultures really honor grandparents in such a way because of that reason, do they not? Yes, they do. And it's absolutely true that we have such a great opportunity to disciple our grandchildren. You know, many of us aren't as busy. Many of us are retired or semi-retired and we have more time on our hands. We probably don't have the same level of stress anymore.

1:46:20 that we had when we were raising our children because there's so much going on and so many things to have to pay for coming up, etc. And so maybe you're like me and you're kind of past that and you have more to give back in terms of your time and your wisdom and your encouragement. And so that idea of grandparents being in a great position to disciple their grandchildren is something that we really embrace. Well, exactly. And so, yes, the other economic scales come into play and that's appreciated. But as we know, especially, you know, this is what grandparents bring to the environment is our understanding of the preciousness of time and presence, what it's like to be involved with a young child and to be there. And often I hear, Joni, from my grandkids is they're just grateful. You know, they'll say, you know, Grandpa, I'm just glad that you're here, that we can have this time together.

1:47:23 Yes. Because nobody else can fill that position, can they? No, they can't. Even parents can't do that. And very often, not only are grandparents there to provide wisdom that the parents are not able to provide, but also grandparents can often be kind of a buffer between parents and grandkids at those times when, kids start to push back a little bit, you know, in that pre-adolescent and adolescent stage when parents are having to discipline a little bit more and set a few more boundaries that often kids don't like. Often the grandparents can help be almost mediators in the midst of that and help bridge that gap between the parents and the grandparents and be there as a sounding board for the kinds of things that are going on and to be able to hear the concerns that their grandchildren have and not necessarily to side with them against their parents we don't want to do that but often we can interpret we can say so you may not know this but here's what's going on and that's what makes it a little bit more difficult for your parents or in another way you might talk with your children if they're struggling with the child and say you know I remember someone who was just like that.

1:48:42 It's you. And I have many of those conversations with my daughter. Not that she's complaining about her children, but more she'll bring something up and I'll say, yep, I remember going through that with you. Really, mom? And then I'll remind her and she'll say, oh, yeah, that's true. It's God's sense of humor. I always say what the child did to the parent. You know, you can just kind of smile about it because you know their day will. Come, right? You do, you do. Exactly. Yeah, the other thing about a grandparent, a grandparent has a way of solving the problem pretty quickly. I know in our Hispanic culture, for example, and I've cited this with our audience many times, and I love it because when my grandmother saw the kids at odds with the parents and they were being goofy, My grandmother had a way of looking at the kids in such a way, which was kind.

1:49:36 Of a warning. And if they didn't heed to the warning, she would reach down and take off her house slipper and she would sling it. They would call it, you know, her chancla is what we say, her chancla. So that was her house slipper. And she would throw it in your direction. Well, she didn't have to hit you. It was just the effect that her chancla came off her foot and it came in your direction. And you understood very quickly that, you were disappointing your grandmother and we would never want to do that, right? You would never want to do that. That is so true that there's also an opportunity for kids to really learn about the importance of showing respect for their parents, because they often are taught to show respect for their grandparents and they get a lot of good back because of that. And sometimes I will remind my grandchildren, if for instance, they want to do something that they know their parents have said they can't do. And I will say, well, now, I know you guys were there when we had this conversation, and your mom and dad said no. Yeah, and usually they will just say yeah. But every once in a while, they try to push a little bit and say, yeah, but mom's not here right now. And then it's a really good opportunity for me to say, I know, but I respect your mom and dad, and they have asked me to do this or that. And so I'm going to follow through. so that I can really reinforce the importance of them respecting their parents.

1:51:04 Right. Well, because, and the Bible's real clear, you know, it doesn't give if, ands, buts about it. You know, you honor your parents so it'll go well with you. Also reminded in Proverbs that in the 11th chapter that, you know, that you have a responsibility to the family, that you are not to be a controversial agent and a disturbing agent. And as you say, today's cultures and the way kids act today, wow. I mean, it's like, you know, my parents would say they need a collective spanking, you know, and only from a standpoint that we need correction. You know, again, the Bible is clear what to do with children who are being ornery. It's not in their best interest to allow them to do such. You know, we don't live in the Old Testament times. I used to tell my younger son, uh, God bless him and, and God save you for that. Because in old Testament times, they would have taken, taken you outside the village and stone you.

1:52:04 Yes. Like stone you to death, you know, because it would send a message to the rest of the kids that, you know, being disobedient, being ornery and being a brat, so to speak, uh, is not acceptable. And, uh, and, and I think that what's happened is parents have, have kind of, uh, you know, let go of that responsibility, you know, for the sake of, you know, I don't want to hurt my kids feelings, you know, I don't want to break their spirit or whatever rationale comes into play. But we pray, you know, as parents for wisdom, so that we know when the rod is appropriate and when it's not. Yes. And I think that the other luxury that we have as grandparents is that we tend to have a little bit more time than our children do. And our grandchildren do.

1:52:53 And a lot of conflicts between parents and kids happen because people are revved up in terms of all these things they have to do. And so they very quickly respond to one another and often in not such a nice way. What I love is when something like that has happened and one of my grandchildren will talk to me about it. And I actually have the time to sit down and say, okay, so explain to me again what happened. And there's that time and space for them to exactly, to actually explain and I'll say, hmm, now let's think about this. Let's say the situation was reversed and let's say you were your mom and your mom was you and your mom had come to you and said that same thing. Very often with just a little extra time and consideration, the child will say, oh yeah, I probably wouldn't have liked that. In fact, I had an exchange with my granddaughter like that a couple of days ago. And it was about a limit her dad had set on her. And I said, okay, so let's think about this from his perspective.

1:53:57 And there was. Just enough time. And she's just old enough. She's 11, almost 12. That she was like, yeah, that probably wasn't very nice. I better go say I'm sorry to my dad. Wow. Wow. That's a home run. Yeah. You love moments like that. And you say, thank you, God. Yes, absolutely. We got a couple of minutes left. We're talking with Dr. Joni DeBrito. focused on the family's counselor and staff member at Legacy Coalition. And of course, she's a grandmother herself, as you can tell from our conversation. But a couple of minutes left, and I wanted to talk also about the meta decision and the social media risk for kids. Yes. So the meta decision was that there have to be some very great restrictions on the use of social media for kids under the age of 18. And actually, this restriction is Right. And they were able to show that she had gotten addicted to social media. And the part that made it a liability for Meta was that there

1:55:32 was evidence to show that the creators of these platforms knew how to hook kids in and use them to do it intentionally, knowing it could drive an addicted process. And so basically the idea is that they are going to not be able to utilize social media when they're in school. Not a lot of school systems have already put those restrictions in place, but now it will be for everyone under the age of 18. And also that they're not able to be online during sleeping hours, which is great because we have a very sleep-deprived culture of kids who want to be hooked in and hearing their phones and answering messages all night long, which is not healthy.

1:56:23 There are also some issues about how much you can change an image, the way you look, especially because of young girls making themselves look better than they are. And then other girls get online and they feel bad about themselves. And there are some restrictions in terms of the messages that come across. I can't remember if it's the likes, thumbs up, thumb down or whatever, but things where you're not being judged so much online. And those should be helpful because we know, you and I have talked many times in the past, that the research says that much of the increase of depression, anxiety, and suicidal thoughts and actions, one of the major contributors is the use of social media.

1:57:10 So this is a big win for kids and families. Well, it should be an encouragement for families too to realize that, They are the, you know, they're the first line of defense. You know, the parents are into protecting their children. And so I think it's a rallying cry, you know, for all of us as parents to, you know, step up and take our responsibility seriously and protect our children out there. Because clearly these organizations like META, which came out, which was shocking to me, Joni, that they were designing this on purpose to injure our children. Yes, yes. It was pretty shocking. And with all of this stuff coming out with AI, this is a really good time for us to be thinking about setting limits and restrictions.

1:57:58 And I would say that at Focus on the Family, we don't make a set of rules and say, you will do this. It's more about having a discussion with your kids and talking to them about why it's important. to put those restrictions in place and then hopefully teaching them to have some self-discipline as they get older and move out into their emerging adult years college years end adult years and where they can start looking at technology and making decisions that are good for them so that they don't get hurt by some of these technologies. Well, we've got to leave it there for now. Dr. Joni DeBrito, Focus on the Family counselor, staff member at Legacy Coalition. Joni, where can the folks go for more information?

1:58:41 So at Focus on the Family, you can go to focusonthefamily.com and find a variety of articles about grandparenting and also technology issues. And then Legacy Coalition is a Christian grandparenting ministry which is dedicated to helping Christian grandparents learn how to disciple their grandchildren. And there is a lot of information available at LegacyCoalition.com. There are blogs and there are videos and podcasts. And also we have a wonderful program on Monday nights called Grand Monday Nights. where grandparents get together online and hear from speakers talking about a variety of issues that affect grandparenting and Christian grandparenting in particular.

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