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Yeah.

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Okay, let's do it.

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Bill Martinez Live, a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now, Bill Martinez.

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Hey, right now, America, it's six minutes after the top

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of the hour. I am Bill Martinez, and he is Dr.

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Michael Bussler, public policy analyst, economics expert, and professor of

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finance at Stockton University in New Jersey. Michael, good to

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have you back with us. How are you, sir?

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I'm doing well, Bill. Thanks for having me. As you know,

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it's always my pleasure to be here.

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Michael, this bugaboo that's driving me nuts from the left,

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talking about affordability. I mean, what do they know about affordability?

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They have demonstrated an ability to enact regulations and policies

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that that are inaffordable or unaffordable. When we're talking Obamacare,

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what Biden did, what Obama did, Obama had really pulverized

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the middle class in such a way that he concluded

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that there was no way that America could ever surpass

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a 2% GDP. It just was incomprehensible. What Trump was

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talking about was just absolutely foreign to Barack Obama. And

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it seems not only Barack Obama, but to the Democratic

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Party at large, because... Here you've got a president that

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continues to come up with, I believe, just some novel

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and exciting ideas to grow our country, to make things

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more affordable. He took over a country that was unaffordable,

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that was developed by the Democratic Party almost single-handedly, Michael,

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but yet they want to fool people by talking affordability.

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And of course, they've got support by the mainstream media

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that is acting as their propaganda arm to get people

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to think that, oh no, it's the Republicans that have

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been producing all these unaffordable issues, right?

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So how do you measure affordability? Well, if your real

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wages or your real total income is increasing more than

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prices are increasing, then things are affordable. In fact, you

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have a real increase in income and you have a

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higher standard of living and you don't have an affordability crisis.

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So during the Biden administration, for four years, the cumulative

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effect of inflation was that prices rose about 21% over

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that four-year period. Incomes were relatively stagnant. Median household income

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only went up by about $ 1, 500, and it was in

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the $ 78, 000, $ 79, 000 range. Median income now is up to $ 85, 000.

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So people's incomes are higher and Trump's first year in office,

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the inflation rate did come down. So as a result,

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there was a real increase in standard of living. Now

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we have the Iran war that temporarily will cause oil

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prices to rise. And when oil prices rise, it ripples

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through the economy and you end up with inflation, not

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roaring inflation, But we're running at 3.4%. The last couple

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of months is measured by the consumer price index. We'd

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like to get it down to 2%. And of course,

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that's our goal. And if you take energy out of it,

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the inflation rate is pretty close to 2%. So although

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there's a temporary spike with energy prices, because the president

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felt that it was in national security to make sure

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that Iran never had a nuclear weapon. This price spike

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is temporary, and once this is over, the affordability index

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will go way up. People's incomes are going up, and

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once the war is over, the inflation rate will get

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down to 2%, and then we'll see some real increases,

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and nobody will be talking about affordability anymore.

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You know, what Trump has laid out, what you just

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laid out right now is very real. I mean, this

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is not theoretical. You know, this is what I love

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about this president, is that he's very practical, very commonsensical,

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and he doesn't talk in grandiose terms, although he does

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get a bit hyperbolic at times, I get. But there's

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something to back it up. And what he's done time

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and again, whether it's no tax on tip, no tax

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on You know, Social Security, the big, beautiful bill and

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what's been going on, you know, overall. And I think

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that I think most reasonable Americans will look at this

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Iran war that we're in as a small price to

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pay to not let this terrorist group have a nuclear

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weapon or have nuclear capacity, because if they did and

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they were taking this kind of craziness, this kind of

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terror to the world, what would the world look like?

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Exactly. I hope you're right. I hope the American voters

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view this as just a price we have to pay

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to really put this Iranian threat to rest for good.

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Instead of kicking the can down the road like every

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other president, we want to finally end this. What the

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Republicans have to emphasize now is, yes, the inflation rate

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is not as low as we'd like it to be.

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And yes, gasoline is a little higher than we'd like

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it to be temporarily. But look at all the good.

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So this bill that was passed last July went into

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effect in January. It took a few months to filter through.

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Now in the third quarter, the Atlanta Fed is predicting

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GDP growth to hit 5%. Most of my colleagues are

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not that optimistic, but they're even saying 3.5% growth. And this.

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Is in the middle of the war, by the way, right?

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Exactly, which does put a drag on things, especially with

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these high prices. They just announced the poverty rate hit a,

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I don't know, 40 or 50 year low. The unemployment

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rate continues to be in the 4, 4.1% range most

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economists consider full employment. Blue collar workers have now a

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lower unemployment rate than they've had in decades. And there

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are more opportunities for them. Apprenticeship programs are popping up.

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Mike Rowe's got this institute where he's helping everybody become

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electricians and plumbers and carpenters. So this economy is growing

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really for everyone. And with all this new investment that's

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being poured into the country, foreign investment and domestic investment,

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and I said on the show before, remember, if a

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business makes an investment this year, They can write the

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whole thing, the whole investment off this year instead of

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depreciating it over 5, 10, 20 years. Business investment is

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up more than 10% over last year as a result

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of this. So that's more new factories and more equipment

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being built and more future jobs for everyone. This economy

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is about to really take off. The only drag we

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have is this Iran war. We'd all like it to

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be over as soon as possible. The president thought he

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could get this over relatively quickly. He doesn't want to

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kill a lot of people. And as a result, he's

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not going in and just blowing up everything, which he

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could easily do. I'm not sure how this is going

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to end, but at some point it will end. Oil

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will flow. The price of oil will get down way

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under 70 a barrel, maybe down to 60. Gasoline will

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go back down under $ 3 a gallon, perhaps as low

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as $ 2. 50. It takes four or five, six months to happen.

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But once that happens, inflation rate comes down, we'll be

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back to the 2% range where the Federal Reserve wants it.

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They can then lower interest rates. And then with the

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lower inflation rate, we'll see long-term interest rates like mortgage

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rates now are up to 7%. We'll see all those

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come down. Things will be much better.

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Well, and the thing is that the voter needs to understand, Michael,

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is that This is the vision that Trump has cast with,

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you know, some facts. I mean, this isn't theoretical that

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gas will be coming down and the cost of fuel

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and that. It's all very practical. And you can run

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the numbers on it and see this really happening. Whereas

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the Democrats, those on the left, they want higher gas prices.

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That's been a big part of their DNA. So, you know,

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America needs to understand who's delivering on their behalf. We've

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got to go to a quick break, so stay with us.

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We've got more from Dr. Michael Bussler on the other side.

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We're back with you. Bill Martinez here with Dr. Michael Bussler,

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the public policy analyst, economics expert, and professor of finance

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at Stockton University in New Jersey. Michael, a group, a

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demographic group that we're not talking about that is missing

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out here are those that are living on the government dole.

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And I got to imagine for them, because look, it's

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fixed in a sense. And so they're going to feel

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more of the pain because their government money is not

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going as far as it used to because of what's

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happening right now. And meanwhile... they're missing the bus on

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these job opportunities. So what's going to be their legacy?

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What is going to be the future for them and

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their families if they don't participate in this dynamic job

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market that is coming at us full speed ahead?

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Yeah, they'll be missing a tremendous opportunity. You know, I

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thought President Clinton fixed this. We had a welfare program

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And he said, no, this is going to be a

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workfare program. So you get welfare, but if you're able-bodied,

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sound mind and body, and you can work, you have

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to go out and work. And I thought the Republican

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Congress passed something that said you have to either work

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or do some volunteer work at least 20 hours a week.

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So we need to get people who can take care

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of themselves to take care of themselves. themselves, that ends

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up being better for everyone. The taxpayer, it's better for

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them too. People feel much more.

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More importantly, it's better for them. You're exactly right, Michael.

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And I think that's understated because unfortunately, this group has

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been looked at as a voting block for a particular

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party that has continued to cater to their desires and

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and give them a false pretense. And what they're doing

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is they're wasting their lives. I mean, we only have

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so much time on this earth. And for them, with

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the talent that is there and available, that's being underdeveloped

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and unexpressed, it's a sad commentary that here in this

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greatest country on God's green earth, that we are debilitating

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a demography in our country like this.

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Yeah, and the key point, Bill, is this is better

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for them. People, if you earn your own income and

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you buy things that you earn income to buy, you

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feel much more self-esteem and feel much better about yourselves.

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And you're right. Democratic policies have put families on the dole.

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And a lot of this goes multi-generational. And they keep saying, look,

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just keep voting for us. We'll make sure you have

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welfare payments. We'll take care of this for you. We'll

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take care of that for you. We'll make sure you

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have health care. So keep voting for us and we'll

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keep giving you free stuff. It hurts everybody. It hurts

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the taxpayer. Because remember, the government doesn't have any money.

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All they have is what they take from the taxpayers.

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So when the Democrats say, well, we'll give you free stuff,

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it means they're going to ask people who earned their

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own income to give some of that income to the

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government and taxes to pay for your free stuff.

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You're too kind. The Democrats never ask They just take, Michael.

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I'm sorry. Because I'm sure we probably ran some people

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into a ditch right now. Get out of the ditch.

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It's okay.

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It was just an accident.

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It was an accident in terms.

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I was trying to be kind, but you're right. And

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this isn't good for anyone. So what we have to do, remember,

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I've said this on the show a number of times.

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Our system became so great because we encouraged individual freedom

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and individual responsibility. If everybody who was able, sound mind, body,

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able to take care of themselves did take care of themselves,

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we'd have far less problems.

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And a lot less than $ 40 trillion in debt, oh yes,

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by the way, right?

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Yeah, Trump is trying to fix this. He's trying to

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reduce government spending. He can't do it. So just last week,

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he used what was called a pocket rescission, which means

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Congress had appropriated 800 and some million or billion dollars

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worth of things to spend. And Trump said, look, I'm

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just not going to spend them. The fiscal year is

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over in a couple of days. I'm not going to

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spend it. And he said, we don't need to spend it.

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So why spend it? And if we're not going to,

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we don't have to spend it. It'll help get spending

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down and reduce costs. The deficit, Congress, Democrats are going

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to fight them. They're going to take them to court.

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They're going to do whatever they have to do. Spend

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money even if you don't have to, the Democrats are

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going to say. Just spend the money. If you don't

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spend it, we won't be able to give it to

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you next year. So you better spend it this year. Yeah.

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Yeah, this is the kind of time, and we've talked

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about this, Michael, at this time of year when people

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start spending $ 10, 000 for number two Ticonderoga pencils en masse.

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I mean, stupid. stupid waste of the American taxpayers' money.

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And how dare they do that? I mean, that is

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such an insult. And I've been saying forever, you know,

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that when we get this close, that there ought to

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be some sort of, you know, shutdown. OK, no more

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government spending. We're going to take a 30 day fast

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on government spending. So whatever is there and latent in

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the budget, it's clawed back. It's brought back into the

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budget and we'll redistribute it, come the next year. Because

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this is when the stupid spending takes place.

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And the logic is, if we don't spend it, next

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year when they go to put the budget together, and

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Congress really hasn't passed the budget in years, but once

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they pass spending appropriations, they'll say, hey, you didn't spend it,

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you must not need it, so we're not going to

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put it in here. So the logic is, let's spend everything.

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whatever's in the budget, make sure we spend everything. So

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when we come next year, they say, Oh, we allocated

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this much to spend it. And you probably need three, five,

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four or 5% more for inflation. And the spending keeps,

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keeps going up. You know, in 2019, the federal government

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spent 4.9 trillion a year, 4.9 trillion. They're now up

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to 7.4 trillion. It's only six or seven years. There's

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been an explosion in spending. Let me say one other thing. Um,

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The Democrats say, we're going to put in a program.

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It'll only be temporary. It'll eventually run out. And I

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keep thinking what Milton Friedman said. There's nothing more permanent

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than a temporary government program.

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That's what happens.

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They put these things in, and you just can't get

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them out, and spending just keeps going up.

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So here we are, $ 7 trillion, but we're generating, what,

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$ 4 or $ 5 trillion? About $ 5.

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So we're $ 2 trillion over.

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And there's no consideration. Every other household in America is

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finding ways to cut back, make sure the budget comes

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in line, the whole deal. But yet we have government

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officials and we keep electing these same government officials to

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just ignore that we're $ 2 trillion over budget.

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Yeah, you know, this has been a problem. Really, it

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started with President Kennedy when his economists convinced him, listen,

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you don't have to balance the budget. Just spend whatever

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you have to spend, tax whatever you tax. If it

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doesn't balance, don't worry about it. The American public will

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lend you the money. You won't have a problem. He

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didn't quite buy it at first, but then he did.

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Since that time, what is that, 63 years, we balanced

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the budget only four years. 63 years, 59 years we

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run a deficit, and the deficits are getting larger. They're

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now talking $ 2 trillion a year, and it's been that

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way for the last three, four, five years. Look, this

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$ 40 trillion debt is an issue. Well, what's the problem,

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people say to me? Well, the problem is the interest

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expense alone is nearly $ 1 trillion a year. And that's

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$ 1 trillion we can't use for more productive measures, number one.

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The second problem is The federal government is pulling $ 40

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trillion out of capital markets. You're going to end up

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with a capital shortage, which means business is going to

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have a tough time expanding. And you're going to see

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things like mortgages and things being more expensive. So we

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have to tackle this debt. And every president has kicked

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the can down the road. Well, I'll do this. Let

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me get by this year. I'll let the next guy

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worry about it. The thing is, we're at the end

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of the road. You can't kick it down the road.

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President Trump, I know he's got a lot on his

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plate here, but I think after the midterms, he's going

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to have to do something to address this problem.

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Michael, the number one deal, you've got to balance the budget, right?

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That is the mantra. That's the focus. Just like with

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Trump in his first administration, it was always about jobs.

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How are we doing with jobs? How are we doing

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with jobs? Now it's got to be the new mantra

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is how are we doing with the budget? Is it balanced, right?

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Because if you balance it, then you're starting to address

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these issues. and you will take care of some of

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these problems that we have. It's just a natural occurrence,

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is it not?

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Yes. Look, if we're stuck in a very deep hole,

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which this public debt is, the first thing to do

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when you're stuck in a deep hole is to stop digging.

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So if we can balance the budget, we won't be

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digging anymore, so we won't be getting any deeper. Then

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we can figure out how we can get out of this.

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President Trump says we can grow our way out of this.

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So if the economy has if we can at least

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keep government spending constant and the economy is going to

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grow the way it looks like it's going to grow,

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tax revenue will increase and eventually you'll be able to

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balance the budget. It won't do away with the public debt,

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but he says it's a way to at least stop

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the deficit. I don't know how many years that'll take

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and whether that's necessarily the best approach, but I think

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that's the one that President Trump is trying.

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See, we're still carrying the load of COVID and these

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decisions and policies that were thrust upon the American people

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by Joe Biden and the Democrats. And it's amazing to

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me why we can't. I thought COVID was over. Why

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are we still carrying that load? Because just as you said,

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and as Milton Friedman said, you know, They're not going

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to let go of this because they have they've bought

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votes and they've bought, you know, public interest, you know,

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by utilizing by robbing from the taxpayers in order to

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satisfy their political desires. Right. I'm going to let you

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wrap it up. Go ahead, Michael.

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Exactly. Yeah, there's look, the one thing I can say

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is the midterms coming up in a matter of weeks

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are extremely important. The Democrats, many of the Democrats that

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are running, especially these socialists, really want to take the

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country in a bad direction that's counterproductive to all American principles.

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So I say to everybody, make sure you go out

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and vote. It's very important that everybody votes. The system

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doesn't work unless everybody votes. And when you're out there,

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take a look at what each candidate is saying and

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decide what you think makes the most sense. I think

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you'll find what the Republicans are saying A lot of

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common sense issues. They don't use scare tactics. You know,

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the Democrats, first they said we're going to run out

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of food. Then it was climate. Now it's the AI

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is going to take us over. So the Democrats, the

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Republicans are not running on fear. They're running on promise.

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The Democrats are running on fear. Take that into consideration

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and make sure you vote. Very important that everybody votes.

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Dr.

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Michael Bussler, public policy analyst, economics expert, professor of finance.

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Thank you, Michael. Appreciate it. Take care.

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Always my pleasure.

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Well, welcome back, America. Bill Martinez here. For more information

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on the show, you want to go to BillMartinezLive.com.

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Dr.

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Michael Youssef is joining us. What an honor to have

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him here.

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Dr.

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Youssef has been so special in so many ways. Let

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me say this to you, ladies and gentlemen. You know,

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what his ministry has done over the years in terms

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of keeping us up to date and aligning our understanding

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of what is going on, because there's a lot of

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signs and wonders out there. And lest you be confused

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and gaslit, you need to know the voices that you

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can trust. Jesus warned us about that, right, Dr.

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Youssef? Absolutely. We have so many false prophets, it breaks

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my heart.

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Yeah. Well, but we need to be, it's critical in

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this era right now, because as you say, the information

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age being what it is, it is really demanding that

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we be more discerning than ever. So we need to

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understand and discern the legitimate from the illegitimate, right?

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Absolutely. So number one need for the Church of Jesus Christ,

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the elect of God, the bride of Christ, number one

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need is discernment. I mean, we always needed discernment from

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first century, but today we need it more than ever.

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And that is why so many people think we are

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living in the last days, because Jesus asked the question,

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when the Son of Man return, will he find faith

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on the earth? Because one of the signs of the

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nearness of his return is the great falling away. And

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when you read about all this deconstruction on the part

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of some megachurch pastors and singers and people who once

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walked in the faith, it makes us really more determined

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to be diligent about discerning the truth. And while our

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heart breaks for those people when they turn their back

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on the faith, but we... must never, never, never give

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up on the truth of the gospel. Exactly.

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Well, you know, and to that point, and I've shared

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this with many people, when you're looking at, you know,

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the truth versus a lie, the legitimate versus the illegitimate.

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I use the example of bank tellers, you know, with

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bank tellers, right? And I think you may have shared

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this story as well, is that when they do their training,

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they don't study the counterfeit. They study the legitimate. And

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I think there's relevance here because with the Word of God,

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you need to study, be more studious on the Word

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of God, which is the anchoring point, the truth, not

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all these other, you know, these commentaries or these other,

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you know, worldly ideas. You got to know what you're

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anchored in, right?

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Absolutely, because... The fake can look so real. And as

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you rightly said, the training of the FBI people in

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the counterfeit currencies and the bankers is always know what

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is the correct currency so that you immediately recognize. You

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don't have to put it to the light. You'll know

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it as soon as you feel it. And I've told

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the story many times where a young man wanted to

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learn about jade in China and they put him up

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with this old man and that old man gave him

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a piece of jade and he began to tell him

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stories and history and all kinds of things and the

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man got so frustrated a few days later he said

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I came here to learn about jade all these stories

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is not going to help me he said okay then

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he handed him a fake piece and as soon as

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he thought he said oh that's not jade He said,

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all this time, you've been feeling the real jade, and

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now you recognize the fake. And so we need to

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be spending time with the Word of God. My testimony is,

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I was a pastor 39 years ago, 38 years ago,

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and I was running haggard and thinking that, you know,

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I am the best thing since sliced bread. Church was

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growing fast, and And then all of a sudden, the

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Lord put me on my back for two weeks, so

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the double pneumonia. And so when you're on your back,

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it's the only way to look up. And the Lord

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began to speak to me. I can do this without you,

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but you cannot do it without me. I wept and

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I wept and I said, Lord, what do you want

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me to do? He said, I want you to give

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me the first fruit of the day. And would you

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believe that for 37 years, I have never made a

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morning appointment. Because the first fruit of my day, and

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then the Lord blessed and anointing came, and the things

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that would take me a week were accomplishing in a

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day or a day and a half. And so I plead,

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not just with pastors and elders, but every person who

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knows and loves Jesus, do not compromise your time in

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the Word of God, because that's what's going to save

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you in the end.

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Well, and just as you exampled, and I've heard this

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time and time again with testimonies in my life as well,

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is that when you first stop to think, you know, God,

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I got so much on my to-do list. How do

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I carve out this time? But then you get to

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that point and you say, okay, I'm going to commit,

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help me commit this time. And you do, and God

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redeems it in incredible ways. And what used to take you,

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you know, like you just said, weeks to do, you're

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getting done in days. It's more expedient. The divine connections

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that are coming in to help and support the agenda,

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God's agenda, not your own. It's just it's miraculous, isn't it? Amen.

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Amen.

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And that's why I feel that in this fourth quarter

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of my life, I'm trying to wake up the church.

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And we have this Wake Up America. And we have

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over 600,000 people signed up to pray for an awakening

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in America. And I was in Houston, Texas just last weekend.

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And I spoke to a large crowd in the arena there.

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And Chris Tomlin led the music. And I gave them

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a very strong message. Wake up before it's too late.

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Because we are right now being lulled to sleep in

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the church of Jesus Christ. Islamists and socialists and communists

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and all trying to take over this great nation that

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we all love. Only the Christian believers, through their commitment

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and the preaching of the gospel, uncompromised gospel of Jesus Christ,

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will save the day. Politics has its place. Politicians have

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their place. But only the gospel of Jesus Christ is

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going to bring a great awakening that will make the socialism, Islamism,

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and all the other isms that ought to be wasms

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will be irrelevant.

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Right.

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And so that's a burden of my heart for whatever

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years the Lord gave me.

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Well because you know consider the start when it all

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began for America it was bathed in prayer it was

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bathed in fasting it was bathed in the word of

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God and it ignited an awakening that brought this country

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together and really because when they first came together they

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weren't sure what you know yes okay we want to

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come to a country where we can you know freely

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exercise our religious beliefs but they didn't understand that God

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had a higher calling than that he wanted his people

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to be free Michael Amen.

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Absolutely. And that freedom gives us freedom to preach the gospel.

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And while I know that under pressure in Iran or

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China and elsewhere, persecuted Christians are becoming stronger than ever,

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but we should not take our freedom for granted. Because

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if we don't, like... the people of Israel of old,

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who are the apple of God's eye. And he allowed

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them to go to the Babylonian exile because they began

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to compromise. And Jeremiah, my goodness, he's my favorite prophet,

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again and again and again, calling them back. But Compromise continued.

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Compromise continued. They're going in the synagogues and the temple

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on Saturday, then compromising with Baal for the rest of

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the week. And we're seeing that happening in the churches

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of Jesus Christ. Best-selling book is Your Best Life is Now. No,

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it's not. It's in heaven. And we are to warn people,

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wake up before it's too late.

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Right. And, you know, and what I sense, Dr. Youssef,

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is there is this intensity because of the time drawing nigh.

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I find myself, you know, being more expressive, more direct. And,

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you know, perhaps it's the Holy Spirit, I pray it is,

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you know, that's operating through us. And because our voices

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need to break those walls down to help, you know,

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soften the hearts so that when the word of God

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comes in, that it will implant into their hearts and

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change their lives the way God intended it to be, right?

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Amen. Absolutely. Yeah, I'm with you 100%.

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Hey, well, I got a few seconds here. Just a

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quick reminder. You can catch this show on all major

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An Unholy Alliance, How Progressivism Brought About an Islamist Invasion.

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Hey, we're back with you. Bill Martinez here with Dr.

745
00:43:49.860 --> 00:43:54.360
Michael Youssef and his new book, An Unholy Alliance, How

746
00:43:54.420 --> 00:43:59.570
Progressivism Brought About Progress. and Islamist invasion. Dr. Youssef, by

747
00:43:59.590 --> 00:44:02.429
the way, is the founder and president of Leading the Way.

748
00:44:02.829 --> 00:44:03.309
So, Dr.

749
00:44:03.369 --> 00:44:06.389
Youssef, An Unholy Alliance. Why this book and why now?

750
00:44:07.369 --> 00:44:10.769
Well, you know, I've been writing about this issue for

751
00:44:10.769 --> 00:44:14.179
45 years. My first book came out 45 years ago.

752
00:44:14.900 --> 00:44:17.400
It was in England, published by Zondervan. Here it was

753
00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:21.050
published by Thomas Nelson. And I wrote the book, Warning

754
00:44:21.389 --> 00:44:26.039
the West of the Islamic Invasion. And back then, one

755
00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:28.719
of the Reagan administration officials said to me, he said,

756
00:44:28.739 --> 00:44:30.679
you mean these goat herders are going to be a

757
00:44:30.739 --> 00:44:34.579
threat to us? And after September 11, he called me

758
00:44:34.619 --> 00:44:38.039
and he said, man, I have never forgotten those words

759
00:44:38.059 --> 00:44:41.349
that I said to you. And so here we are now.

760
00:44:41.670 --> 00:44:46.869
We are experiencing this incredible invasion of Islamists. And I

761
00:44:46.909 --> 00:44:49.530
always make a distinction between Muslims and Islamists.

762
00:44:49.969 --> 00:44:50.150
Right.

763
00:44:50.190 --> 00:44:53.210
I get criticized for that, but that's OK.

764
00:44:53.530 --> 00:44:55.969
No, I think that's a fair. You have to declare

765
00:44:56.010 --> 00:44:58.019
it and break that up because there is a clear

766
00:44:58.480 --> 00:44:59.780
delineation between the two.

767
00:45:00.309 --> 00:45:04.010
And I have some Muslim friends who absolutely hate the Islamists.

768
00:45:04.809 --> 00:45:09.190
And look, the Islamists were outlawed in Egypt and Jordan

769
00:45:09.409 --> 00:45:16.840
and Emirates and Saudi Arabia even. So that's why I'm

770
00:45:16.880 --> 00:45:21.480
careful with my words. And I love the Muslim people.

771
00:45:21.739 --> 00:45:25.449
I have no... And I really do have, I'm spending

772
00:45:25.469 --> 00:45:30.650
hours in preparation. We have a television station 24-7, kingdom set,

773
00:45:31.090 --> 00:45:34.969
going into 260 million homes in the Arab world because

774
00:45:35.010 --> 00:45:38.739
we love the Muslim people. But these Islamists, the Muslim Brotherhood,

775
00:45:39.039 --> 00:45:42.099
was founded with one aim in mind. All the other

776
00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:44.760
groups came out of it. But it's the womb that

777
00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:47.800
brought all these Islamic movements, ISIS and all of them.

778
00:45:48.440 --> 00:45:51.920
And it is basically that they need to dominate the

779
00:45:51.960 --> 00:45:57.239
world the world, and bring the successor, whom, of course,

780
00:45:57.320 --> 00:46:00.480
in Arabic means caliphate. You hear that word all the time.

781
00:46:00.980 --> 00:46:04.329
Bring a successor to the prophet and rule the world.

782
00:46:05.289 --> 00:46:07.650
And in many ways, we know that the Antichrist is

783
00:46:07.670 --> 00:46:11.909
going to do that. But in reality, when you look

784
00:46:11.929 --> 00:46:15.889
at Pedersen, New Jersey, and when you look at Dearborn, Michigan,

785
00:46:16.239 --> 00:46:19.239
when you look at cities in Epic City in Dallas, Texas,

786
00:46:19.320 --> 00:46:24.409
I mean, they're going after... All these places to choke hold.

787
00:46:24.429 --> 00:46:27.099
Well, look at New York City right now with a

788
00:46:27.139 --> 00:46:29.539
call to prayer in Times Square. Did you ever think

789
00:46:29.579 --> 00:46:31.099
that would happen? Never.

790
00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:34.059
Never. Not in a million years. When I escaped with

791
00:46:34.079 --> 00:46:37.030
the clothes on my back back in the 60s, when

792
00:46:37.070 --> 00:46:39.449
I escaped from the Middle East and came to the

793
00:46:39.510 --> 00:46:42.869
freedom in the West, I never thought that this will

794
00:46:42.969 --> 00:46:46.769
follow me, that nightmare will follow me. But here we are,

795
00:46:46.789 --> 00:46:51.230
you know, Mr. Mamdani is really more of a committed

796
00:46:51.570 --> 00:46:57.900
to his combination of Islamist and socialism or communism, whatever

797
00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:01.280
name you want to give it. But in reality is

798
00:47:01.320 --> 00:47:03.940
that unholy alliance that I talk about in the book

799
00:47:04.619 --> 00:47:07.699
is that has always been the case. You found it

800
00:47:08.239 --> 00:47:13.119
in Egypt with the Muslim Brotherhood and the Revolutionary Army

801
00:47:13.159 --> 00:47:16.769
with Nasser. They were all initially Muslim Brotherhood members, but

802
00:47:16.809 --> 00:47:19.349
then they kind of, when they take power, they turn

803
00:47:19.389 --> 00:47:22.530
on each other, which will happen, and it happened again

804
00:47:22.750 --> 00:47:28.159
in 79 in Iran, where the left wing, the communists,

805
00:47:28.179 --> 00:47:31.639
the Marxists, took to the streets, got rid of the Shah. Well,

806
00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:35.949
what happened? Khomeini flew in from Paris. And as soon

807
00:47:35.989 --> 00:47:38.539
as he took power, he chopped their heads, got rid

808
00:47:38.579 --> 00:47:46.599
of them. And these Islamists would call these Marxist leftist allies,

809
00:47:47.300 --> 00:47:50.380
they don't call them useful idiots like the communists do.

810
00:47:50.800 --> 00:47:53.860
They call them the donkeys of the revolution. They're the

811
00:47:53.900 --> 00:47:57.739
ones who are carrying us to reach our goal of

812
00:47:57.940 --> 00:48:01.840
conquering the West and becoming the dominant religion of the

813
00:48:01.900 --> 00:48:06.360
world with their caliphate in power. So it is very

814
00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:09.219
important for the church to wake up and know what's

815
00:48:09.260 --> 00:48:12.030
going on so that they know how to pray, they

816
00:48:12.070 --> 00:48:15.250
know how to witness, they know how to take a stand,

817
00:48:15.329 --> 00:48:18.489
and they know how to vote even. Because sometimes these

818
00:48:18.699 --> 00:48:23.750
candidates are so slick. And my goodness, I mean, I

819
00:48:23.769 --> 00:48:26.030
know the Bible said that the devil appears as an

820
00:48:26.130 --> 00:48:29.849
angel of light. And we're seeing that's happening right now

821
00:48:30.409 --> 00:48:33.840
all over this country. Deception, deception. As you and I

822
00:48:34.030 --> 00:48:38.380
started talking about discernment. And so that's what the Church

823
00:48:38.420 --> 00:48:41.460
of Jesus Christ, that's what the believers need. But really,

824
00:48:42.119 --> 00:48:46.500
every freedom-loving person, whether they're Christians or not, they need

825
00:48:46.539 --> 00:48:50.349
to wake up to what the ultimate goal is. and

826
00:48:50.409 --> 00:48:51.530
what they want to accomplish.

827
00:48:52.230 --> 00:48:55.269
Exactly. When you talk about, you know, for the sake

828
00:48:55.289 --> 00:49:00.239
of our audience, the red-green unholy alliance, break that down

829
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:01.500
for the audience to understand.

830
00:49:01.519 --> 00:49:02.440
Go ahead.

831
00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:06.619
Green is always the color associated with Islam, and the red,

832
00:49:06.659 --> 00:49:08.579
of course, associated with communism.

833
00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:09.579
Exactly.

834
00:49:09.860 --> 00:49:14.710
And they now are forming this alliance, this unholy, because eventually,

835
00:49:15.250 --> 00:49:19.010
if they ever, ever, God forbid, come to power anywhere,

836
00:49:19.590 --> 00:49:21.260
one of them is going to destroy the other, and

837
00:49:21.300 --> 00:49:24.380
we know who is going to win that battle. But

838
00:49:24.739 --> 00:49:28.760
in reality, they are right now kind of working together,

839
00:49:28.780 --> 00:49:34.420
hand in glove, in order to bring Western civilization to

840
00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:38.280
chaos and destruction. And on top of that, they think,

841
00:49:38.809 --> 00:49:43.230
The communists want to build their communist utopia, and the

842
00:49:43.289 --> 00:49:48.820
Islamists want to build their Islamist Sharia law all across

843
00:49:49.039 --> 00:49:52.579
Europe and the United States. But in reality, and what

844
00:49:52.619 --> 00:49:55.900
I call this omnicore, some of those people who are

845
00:49:56.000 --> 00:50:01.110
environmentalists and green and all that, they're now supporting so-called

846
00:50:01.469 --> 00:50:06.340
free Palestine. But in reality... you know, this omni-cause. Whatever

847
00:50:06.420 --> 00:50:10.219
cause is going on, whatever is happening, they're going to

848
00:50:10.300 --> 00:50:14.210
join it in order to see the destruction of Western civilization.

849
00:50:15.030 --> 00:50:17.349
Their number one target in the Middle East, though, is Israel.

850
00:50:17.889 --> 00:50:20.250
Psalm 83 points out, right? I mean, you're going to

851
00:50:20.289 --> 00:50:24.550
have this red-green alliance, and that's been their mantra for

852
00:50:24.590 --> 00:50:28.639
thousands of years. Ancient hatred, they call it. So here

853
00:50:28.679 --> 00:50:31.699
they are. You talk about useful idiots. The greens are

854
00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:35.340
going to utilize the reds, as Psalm 83 points out,

855
00:50:35.489 --> 00:50:38.409
I believe, you know, to come down and attack Israel.

856
00:50:38.630 --> 00:50:40.929
And then after Israel, then, of course, America. But they're

857
00:50:40.949 --> 00:50:45.429
already licking their chops in America. They've already invaded the country, right?

858
00:50:45.449 --> 00:50:47.989
They have. They have, absolutely. Look what happened in England.

859
00:50:49.090 --> 00:50:54.269
Eleven of the 13 big cities now have Islamist mayors,

860
00:50:54.489 --> 00:50:58.590
including London, of course. And the change in London, and

861
00:50:58.659 --> 00:51:02.360
I've been going there every year since 77, and I

862
00:51:02.440 --> 00:51:06.869
have a family there. But the change, 35 of the

863
00:51:06.909 --> 00:51:11.130
population of London now, 35% are Muslims. And the mayor,

864
00:51:12.150 --> 00:51:18.369
Sadiq Khan, is creating this vacuum. And now they, I mean, look, St.

865
00:51:18.429 --> 00:51:21.679
Paul's Cathedral, the Anglican Church, the Church of England, now

866
00:51:21.739 --> 00:51:25.860
is turning into a nightclub. I mean, and then this

867
00:51:25.940 --> 00:51:29.400
woman who's the Archbishop of Canterbury. And unfortunately, I say,

868
00:51:29.780 --> 00:51:32.039
this is the church I was ordained in 52 years ago.

869
00:51:33.269 --> 00:51:37.510
Not anymore, but she gave the award to this most

870
00:51:37.630 --> 00:51:40.789
militant Islamist. And there are pictures all over the world.

871
00:51:41.329 --> 00:51:44.380
And then she woke up and realized that this guy

872
00:51:44.800 --> 00:51:48.400
is really supporting terrorism. So she withdrew the thing. But

873
00:51:48.440 --> 00:51:48.980
it's too late.

874
00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:50.039
That's right.

875
00:51:50.559 --> 00:51:54.460
And this is the trouble we're facing in the United Kingdom,

876
00:51:54.860 --> 00:51:58.070
in Europe, and now in the United States. And as

877
00:51:58.170 --> 00:52:02.030
I said, that's why I wrote that book. the unholy alliance,

878
00:52:02.650 --> 00:52:07.010
that if you give them room, they eventually will destroy

879
00:52:07.070 --> 00:52:12.400
each other. But let's be aware of that, but particularly voting.

880
00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:15.840
My goodness, it breaks my heart how many percentage of

881
00:52:15.900 --> 00:52:17.679
Christians stay home and never vote.

882
00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:22.849
Well, only 50% of Christians will bother to register to vote,

883
00:52:23.190 --> 00:52:26.449
and of that 50, according to polling in Barna... is

884
00:52:26.489 --> 00:52:30.530
that only 50% of them will actually go out to vote.

885
00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:35.440
Yeah, and yet you have 85% of the Muslims in

886
00:52:35.519 --> 00:52:37.239
America register to vote.

887
00:52:37.820 --> 00:52:42.420
Well, that's why 82,000 can control Minneapolis, right?

888
00:52:42.440 --> 00:52:43.780
That's exactly right.

889
00:52:43.900 --> 00:52:47.079
And not only Minneapolis, I mean the entire state. They've

890
00:52:47.099 --> 00:52:51.000
been able to now control the entire state. That is

891
00:52:51.079 --> 00:52:51.659
amazing to me.

892
00:52:52.269 --> 00:52:55.510
Michigan is not far behind. New Jersey is not far behind.

893
00:52:55.829 --> 00:53:00.750
And they know exactly how and strategically they place their

894
00:53:01.389 --> 00:53:05.230
foot soldiers and they put them into position of power,

895
00:53:05.489 --> 00:53:08.429
whether it be mayor or city council or school board.

896
00:53:08.789 --> 00:53:11.170
And now, of course, we have three running for Congress

897
00:53:11.230 --> 00:53:16.039
and Senate who are known Islamists and they make no

898
00:53:16.320 --> 00:53:17.199
apologies for it.

899
00:53:17.900 --> 00:53:20.099
So how does this tie in? And I want people

900
00:53:20.119 --> 00:53:22.949
to understand this because you do clearly, you see it,

901
00:53:23.699 --> 00:53:26.840
the DSA and how you talk about useful idiots, how

902
00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:28.940
the DSA is being used by the Greens.

903
00:53:29.460 --> 00:53:36.000
Yeah. And by the Islamists, you see, this is what happens.

904
00:53:36.539 --> 00:53:39.460
It doesn't matter. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

905
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:43.300
And that is really the motto. They will do whatever.

906
00:53:43.619 --> 00:53:48.369
And there's something in the jurisprudence, in Islamist jurisprudence called taqiyya,

907
00:53:48.849 --> 00:53:51.889
which is a virtue to lie. And I've written about

908
00:53:51.929 --> 00:53:56.289
this 45 years ago. But do you think anybody would listen? No.

909
00:53:57.110 --> 00:54:02.039
And I'm sorry to say, that unless now, maybe even

910
00:54:02.099 --> 00:54:05.699
too late, but I still think there's hope if God's

911
00:54:05.780 --> 00:54:10.179
people rise up and take the responsibility seriously. They don't

912
00:54:10.199 --> 00:54:14.300
stay home during election time. I grew up where dictatorship,

913
00:54:14.820 --> 00:54:17.340
and it was a referendum on the dictator, and there's

914
00:54:17.510 --> 00:54:24.230
always 99.9%. That's right. I mean, that's, but Here, I

915
00:54:24.289 --> 00:54:27.050
consider it a great privilege to be able to go

916
00:54:27.210 --> 00:54:30.349
and vote for the candidate of my choice. And how

917
00:54:30.449 --> 00:54:34.769
can you squander that incredible privilege? It's just beyond me.

918
00:54:35.170 --> 00:54:40.030
And so I'm appealing through your audience that please raise

919
00:54:40.329 --> 00:54:43.530
the alarm, knock on doors, do whatever it takes, talk

920
00:54:43.550 --> 00:54:46.360
to your friends, talk to your neighbors. Say this is

921
00:54:46.409 --> 00:54:49.659
a very important time and we must not squander it.

922
00:54:50.679 --> 00:54:54.670
Well, as we wrap up, The final takeaway of your book,

923
00:54:55.289 --> 00:54:59.309
An Unholy Alliance, How Progressivism Brought About an Islamist Invasion.

924
00:54:59.710 --> 00:55:02.309
What say you, Dr. Michael Youssef, as we wrap things up?

925
00:55:02.969 --> 00:55:06.769
Well, I just say that, look, we've seen this picture before.

926
00:55:07.690 --> 00:55:10.150
And in the long run, we also have read the

927
00:55:10.190 --> 00:55:13.909
last chapter. We know we win. And I'm not afraid.

928
00:55:14.139 --> 00:55:17.500
I'm not frightened. I'm not worried. I do worry about

929
00:55:18.119 --> 00:55:22.309
what my grandchildren will face. But I know I'm going

930
00:55:22.329 --> 00:55:25.769
to heaven. But the question is, do you love your children,

931
00:55:25.789 --> 00:55:29.849
your grandchildren enough to stand up and be counted?

932
00:55:31.269 --> 00:55:31.469
Yeah.

933
00:55:32.570 --> 00:55:37.699
That's the bottom line. It demands activation. You can no

934
00:55:37.760 --> 00:55:42.199
longer be passive. You have to engage that which is ungodly,

935
00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:42.699
do you not?

936
00:55:43.579 --> 00:55:47.360
Ezekiel said, I'm a watchman on the wall. That's how

937
00:55:47.480 --> 00:55:50.559
I feel. that if the watchman on the wall see

938
00:55:50.599 --> 00:55:56.199
danger coming and says nothing, then when there is a disaster,

939
00:55:56.260 --> 00:55:58.980
the blood of those people in your hand, the hand

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of the watchman on the wall. But if you see

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danger coming and then you warn the people and then

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they don't take notice of it, their blood is on

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their own hands. And so at least as one person,

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and I know you joined with me in this, that

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we need to be watchmen on the wall sounding the alarm,

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saying danger is coming. Wake up before it's too late.

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Dr.

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Michael Youssef, thank you for being a watchman. And I

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join you in that. He's the founder and president of

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Leading the Way. How can people follow.

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You, Dr.

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Youssef?

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Well, LTW.org is a Leading the Way website. And of course,

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we're on a lot of radio and television stations. But,

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Getting America back on track. Bill Martinez live.

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Hey, good morning.

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Bill Martinez here, along with Mike Palich from ATR. Hey, Mike,

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good morning to you.

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Good morning, Bill.

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Good to be with you.

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Well, lots happening as usual. Don't we love it? Because

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if there wasn't lots happening, you and I wouldn't have

995
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anything to do, right?

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They need us talking.

997
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Yes, exactly. Well, let's talk about diesel prices. Hitting American farmers, truckers,

998
00:58:44.099 --> 00:58:46.159
businesses very hard these days, right?

999
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Of course, and we're seeing it particularly impacting ag communities

1000
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right now. It's been a top political concern. I think

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particularly because we have some of these Senate races in

1002
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states like Iowa right now, where it's jumped to the

1003
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political forefront. We've had President Trump floating a couple of

1004
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actions around this space, including the possibility of banning diesel exports,

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00:59:06.789 --> 00:59:09.969
where the United States is currently the world's leading export.

1006
00:59:10.170 --> 00:59:14.159
of diesel fuel. We export about 1.3 million barrels per day.

1007
00:59:14.179 --> 00:59:17.219
So it'd be a significant impact on the American energy

1008
00:59:17.239 --> 00:59:20.599
industry and something the White House is mulling right now.

1009
00:59:21.340 --> 00:59:25.159
Well, like anything, you consider all options, but you have

1010
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to look at the risk reward, don't you?

1011
00:59:27.960 --> 00:59:28.400
Absolutely.

1012
00:59:28.420 --> 00:59:30.960
And I think here, And look, the president, he likes

1013
00:59:30.980 --> 00:59:33.699
to float ideas and get feedback. He's talking to various

1014
00:59:33.719 --> 00:59:36.650
different people, both within his cabinet and outside the administration.

1015
00:59:37.309 --> 00:59:38.829
But this is what I think would be a particularly

1016
00:59:38.869 --> 00:59:43.449
damaging mistake to make. I agree here with our Energy Secretary,

1017
00:59:44.269 --> 00:59:49.030
as well as the Treasury Secretary, Scott Besson, and Doug

1018
00:59:49.070 --> 00:59:51.539
Burgum as well here, who are warning Trump not to

1019
00:59:51.579 --> 00:59:55.019
move forward with doing this. I think realistically, what would

1020
00:59:55.059 --> 00:59:58.980
happen is if you ban diesel exports. We'll have a

1021
00:59:59.030 --> 01:00:02.869
very short-term reduction in prices, but quickly what will happen

1022
01:00:02.909 --> 01:00:05.130
is we don't have storage for excess oil. We're at

1023
01:00:05.690 --> 01:00:08.690
full tilt here. It's not a domestic supply problem. It's

1024
01:00:08.750 --> 01:00:13.449
a global issue. We'll very quickly see as U.S. production

1025
01:00:13.550 --> 01:00:17.360
have to shut down, gear down, which would not only

1026
01:00:17.469 --> 01:00:21.199
impact and increase prices on diesel, but other fuels as well,

1027
01:00:21.260 --> 01:00:24.719
including jet fuel and normal gas prices as we reduce

1028
01:00:24.760 --> 01:00:28.809
our refining capacity. and actually lower supply domestically. That would

1029
01:00:28.849 --> 01:00:32.230
raise prices. And I think even politically, that timeline would

1030
01:00:32.250 --> 01:00:36.329
be raising gas prices, raising diesel prices before the election.

1031
01:00:37.929 --> 01:00:39.760
I think there's a little bit of a political panic here,

1032
01:00:39.780 --> 01:00:43.760
but I think this solution would be particularly damaging. Raise

1033
01:00:43.800 --> 01:00:46.000
gas prices. I don't think it's right, too, where we

1034
01:00:46.039 --> 01:00:50.320
have people frustrated who are already paying $ 4. 50 per gallon

1035
01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:52.780
to be asked to pay more. I think they'll be

1036
01:00:52.900 --> 01:00:55.820
angrier if they're paying more. $ 4. 75 a month from now,

1037
01:00:55.880 --> 01:00:59.659
right before the election. And they're paying higher prices because

1038
01:00:59.719 --> 01:01:02.559
of something done, kind of a special interest to help

1039
01:01:02.599 --> 01:01:05.219
the farming community. Of course, everyone wants to see diesel

1040
01:01:05.260 --> 01:01:09.119
prices come down. I think ultimately, we're going to continue

1041
01:01:09.139 --> 01:01:11.920
to see the Trump administration opening up the Strait of Hormuz,

1042
01:01:11.980 --> 01:01:14.000
making progress with Iran. I think that's the way out

1043
01:01:14.019 --> 01:01:17.480
of this. And we've seen the Trump administration take key

1044
01:01:17.619 --> 01:01:20.000
actions like the Jones Act waiver. We should have the

1045
01:01:20.039 --> 01:01:23.949
House and Congress back making that permanent, making that policy permanent.

1046
01:01:24.489 --> 01:01:27.530
And of course, continuing to roll back all of these

1047
01:01:27.570 --> 01:01:32.389
environmental regulations, their wasteful green far left policy. They're adding

1048
01:01:32.429 --> 01:01:35.039
to the price of gasoline right now. These are administrative

1049
01:01:35.059 --> 01:01:38.019
actions they could be taking. But again, the diesel export ban,

1050
01:01:38.039 --> 01:01:40.260
I think, is a dangerous kind of Jimmy Carter era

1051
01:01:40.340 --> 01:01:41.820
idea that we need to be avoiding.

1052
01:01:42.559 --> 01:01:42.760
Right.

1053
01:01:43.179 --> 01:01:44.699
Don't you feel a little bit, at least I do,

1054
01:01:45.139 --> 01:01:48.949
that this is kind of bait that the Democrats are

1055
01:01:48.969 --> 01:01:52.769
throwing out there to see if, you know, what Republicans

1056
01:01:52.789 --> 01:01:55.519
going to hit it? I don't think, you know, Trump

1057
01:01:55.559 --> 01:01:58.329
kind of sees this. He has a broader view of

1058
01:01:58.369 --> 01:02:01.690
things and sees the play here. And he'll go along

1059
01:02:01.730 --> 01:02:04.139
just to mess with them and maybe just go in and,

1060
01:02:04.269 --> 01:02:06.349
you know, he's like he's grabbing the fishing line and

1061
01:02:06.389 --> 01:02:09.280
just tugging at to make them think like they've got somebody.

1062
01:02:09.719 --> 01:02:13.639
But I think he knows he knows better because, you know,

1063
01:02:13.659 --> 01:02:18.239
the the implications, the consequences would be debilitating and would

1064
01:02:18.300 --> 01:02:21.489
not be in the best interest, especially this close to

1065
01:02:21.530 --> 01:02:21.989
the election.

1066
01:02:22.590 --> 01:02:25.670
That's exactly right. And I think, again, the president likes

1067
01:02:25.690 --> 01:02:28.489
to float ideas, get feedback. I think what we're seeing

1068
01:02:28.530 --> 01:02:32.639
here out publicly, very notably, pretty much everyone involved in

1069
01:02:32.940 --> 01:02:37.019
energy policy in the administration, his cabinet secretaries, are all

1070
01:02:37.079 --> 01:02:40.019
publicly against this. So I think you have a little

1071
01:02:40.059 --> 01:02:43.400
bit of the people who do policy and the trusted

1072
01:02:43.420 --> 01:02:46.840
advisors to the president. And the president, on the other hand,

1073
01:02:46.860 --> 01:02:49.010
dealing with some of the political team and concerns about

1074
01:02:49.030 --> 01:02:53.079
the Senate race is But we can't have a medicine

1075
01:02:53.159 --> 01:02:54.800
that's worse than the current.

1076
01:02:54.559 --> 01:02:57.780
Disease for us. Well, yeah, exactly. Like Trump said in

1077
01:02:57.820 --> 01:03:01.420
the era of COVID, don't make the solution worse than.

1078
01:03:01.320 --> 01:03:02.260
The disease itself.

1079
01:03:02.280 --> 01:03:05.280
Of course, we realize that. Little did we know how

1080
01:03:05.340 --> 01:03:09.469
prophetic he was when he made that statement. But, you know, Mike,

1081
01:03:09.659 --> 01:03:15.309
looking back historically with export bans, has America fared well

1082
01:03:15.349 --> 01:03:16.289
with export bans?

1083
01:03:16.820 --> 01:03:18.800
No, and I alluded earlier, this is kind of tried

1084
01:03:18.880 --> 01:03:23.239
and failed Jimmy Carter era policy. Of course, even more recently,

1085
01:03:23.719 --> 01:03:27.719
we had Joe Biden floating export bans on both crude

1086
01:03:27.820 --> 01:03:31.619
oil and our natural gas, of which the Trump administration

1087
01:03:31.719 --> 01:03:34.679
came in and rightfully did a 180 on, where you

1088
01:03:34.699 --> 01:03:36.440
had all these great trade deals being announced to the

1089
01:03:36.480 --> 01:03:40.579
president requiring other countries to be purchasing our oil and

1090
01:03:40.619 --> 01:03:44.719
our natural gas to purposely boost American exports. which is

1091
01:03:44.739 --> 01:03:46.699
what we want to be doing because this has been

1092
01:03:46.719 --> 01:03:51.380
an across the administration argument about we're increasing our domestic

1093
01:03:51.400 --> 01:03:55.940
manufacturing supply, our production on oil and natural gas, which

1094
01:03:56.039 --> 01:04:00.320
brings prices down lower as we have American energy dominance

1095
01:04:00.500 --> 01:04:03.079
and independence, both of which would be undermined if we

1096
01:04:03.119 --> 01:04:06.969
start limiting our exports. It's just a price signal to

1097
01:04:07.030 --> 01:04:10.530
domestic production to produce less. They're already producing at full

1098
01:04:10.570 --> 01:04:13.449
tilt right now. The only answer would be shutting down

1099
01:04:13.489 --> 01:04:17.769
domestic production leading to higher prices. And I think even, again,

1100
01:04:17.849 --> 01:04:22.150
for this specific concern in the agricultural community, in the community,

1101
01:04:22.570 --> 01:04:23.380
we actually.

1102
01:04:23.110 --> 01:04:24.219
Had the U.S.

1103
01:04:24.239 --> 01:04:27.880
Department of Agriculture, their chief economist, warn that this would

1104
01:04:27.940 --> 01:04:30.900
negatively impact the ag community because it would, in the

1105
01:04:31.019 --> 01:04:35.300
very near term, lead to higher prices in diesel, which is,

1106
01:04:35.480 --> 01:04:37.679
of course, going to impact these farmers. Of course, we

1107
01:04:37.699 --> 01:04:40.949
want to be providing relief, but this is not the answer.

1108
01:04:40.969 --> 01:04:43.590
And conservatives have always known this. Republicans have always known this.

1109
01:04:44.300 --> 01:04:47.960
Well, I may be misremembering history, but when I think

1110
01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:50.679
of an export ban as well, another part is what

1111
01:04:50.739 --> 01:04:54.780
happened with Japan just prior to their attack on Pearl Harbor.

1112
01:04:55.449 --> 01:04:57.969
There was an export ban that came into play, right?

1113
01:04:58.610 --> 01:05:00.570
And look what happened. It brought us into a war.

1114
01:05:01.469 --> 01:05:03.150
Yeah, and it made the Japanese desperate.

1115
01:05:03.650 --> 01:05:03.809
Yeah.

1116
01:05:03.849 --> 01:05:04.150
Right?

1117
01:05:04.449 --> 01:05:09.050
And it's directly a huge part in beginning World War

1118
01:05:09.070 --> 01:05:09.909
II and Pearl Harbor.

1119
01:05:10.550 --> 01:05:10.769
Mm-hmm.

1120
01:05:11.659 --> 01:05:14.280
And again, I think that's key now, even more so

1121
01:05:14.719 --> 01:05:18.559
now where we have a very global market for oil.

1122
01:05:18.599 --> 01:05:21.489
And we've seen what American production has been able to

1123
01:05:21.550 --> 01:05:23.809
do in the areas of natural gas, which I think

1124
01:05:23.829 --> 01:05:26.230
is the most remarkable. It's hard to focus on good

1125
01:05:26.269 --> 01:05:29.289
news when gas prices are high, but natural gas prices

1126
01:05:29.329 --> 01:05:32.860
have come down during the Afghan war, which is amazing.

1127
01:05:32.889 --> 01:05:35.860
It's a testament to American energy production. We don't want

1128
01:05:35.880 --> 01:05:38.940
to do anything that's going to undermine that. And again,

1129
01:05:38.960 --> 01:05:43.039
the benefit we have from from our energy abundance and

1130
01:05:43.099 --> 01:05:45.280
from our from our independence, not on the Middle East.

1131
01:05:47.059 --> 01:05:49.440
We don't want to don't kill the golden goose here.

1132
01:05:49.460 --> 01:05:52.260
I think even some of these political folks are not

1133
01:05:52.280 --> 01:05:55.599
in the policy shop. Trump should listen to his cabinet,

1134
01:05:55.960 --> 01:05:57.280
listen to his chief advisors. I think he's going to

1135
01:05:57.320 --> 01:05:58.519
come down the right spot on this at the end

1136
01:05:58.539 --> 01:06:02.820
of the day. I think it's particularly some bad polling

1137
01:06:02.860 --> 01:06:06.590
in Iowa. We shouldn't panic at one poll. And then

1138
01:06:06.630 --> 01:06:08.909
we shouldn't be pulling kind of these type of levers,

1139
01:06:09.590 --> 01:06:11.489
which are only going to worsen the situation.

1140
01:06:11.750 --> 01:06:16.909
You see, to me, when you rule by pollings, it

1141
01:06:17.780 --> 01:06:22.400
impacts leadership. Leadership takes you from where you are to

1142
01:06:22.440 --> 01:06:25.420
where you need to go. And Trump is great at that.

1143
01:06:26.500 --> 01:06:30.000
The challenge that Trump has is he has a very

1144
01:06:30.239 --> 01:06:36.389
activist media, a politicized media that that takes every bit

1145
01:06:36.409 --> 01:06:40.250
of advantage to carry the water for the Democratic Party,

1146
01:06:40.269 --> 01:06:44.719
and especially now in these ensuing months heading into the midterms, right?

1147
01:06:45.440 --> 01:06:47.039
Yeah, and I think if you look at where this

1148
01:06:47.099 --> 01:06:49.940
idea came from first, it was first floated by John Thune,

1149
01:06:50.219 --> 01:06:52.500
the Senate leader, last Tuesday.

1150
01:06:52.519 --> 01:06:54.199
It was the first time it broke into the news.

1151
01:06:54.739 --> 01:06:57.429
So I think he's hearing from some of the Senate

1152
01:06:57.469 --> 01:07:01.469
campaigns on the trail, I think reacting too quickly, too

1153
01:07:01.510 --> 01:07:03.309
harshly to some.

1154
01:07:03.210 --> 01:07:04.010
Bad poll numbers.

1155
01:07:04.760 --> 01:07:07.079
And I think Trump is trying to, you know, he's

1156
01:07:07.099 --> 01:07:10.090
hearing all voices in the party. But he has been,

1157
01:07:10.110 --> 01:07:12.869
I think, the most pro-energy president we've had.

1158
01:07:12.969 --> 01:07:13.150
Right.

1159
01:07:13.489 --> 01:07:14.929
Exactly. We've got to go to a quick break. Let's

1160
01:07:14.969 --> 01:07:17.050
pick it up on the other side. More from Mike

1161
01:07:17.090 --> 01:07:17.909
Pallitz after this.

1162
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And we're back with you. ATR's tax policy director, Mike Pallis,

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continues with us. As you were saying, Mike, before the break,

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is that Trump will, I believe, I'm confident that he

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01:12:01.800 --> 01:12:04.140
will land on the right side of this. I mean,

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with all due respect, John Thune has not impressed me

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to think that he should be in the inner circle

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of advisors.

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Yeah, and I think that this is a good example

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01:12:14.729 --> 01:12:15.829
of where we don't want to be panicking, we don't

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01:12:15.850 --> 01:12:18.789
want to be overreacting. We shouldn't throw out what's been

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01:12:19.279 --> 01:12:23.350
conservative energy policy for 40 years and just completely undermine

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01:12:23.369 --> 01:12:25.449
it and do what the Biden administration would have done.

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01:12:25.850 --> 01:12:29.210
The exact policies they pursued was to limit exports, to

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01:12:29.289 --> 01:12:32.329
limit American energy production. I think the hypocrisy of Democrats

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01:12:32.390 --> 01:12:34.770
is on full display right now. It's always been the

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01:12:34.810 --> 01:12:36.670
party saying this is what we have to do to

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01:12:36.710 --> 01:12:41.180
save humanity, to lower global carbon emissions. We need a

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01:12:41.229 --> 01:12:46.439
carbon tax to purposely raise gas prices. And so we

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01:12:46.460 --> 01:12:49.399
should stay fully away from that. We're team energy abundance

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01:12:49.739 --> 01:12:56.180
and energy dominance. Keep increasing American production. That's the more

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01:12:56.220 --> 01:13:01.729
way to get supply on the lower gas prices. I

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01:13:01.770 --> 01:13:03.390
think Trump will land in the right spot of this.

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01:13:03.409 --> 01:13:06.310
He's got a great team around him. Again, his pretty

1255
01:13:06.329 --> 01:13:08.750
much full cabinet team is urging him.

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Not to do this.

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01:13:10.010 --> 01:13:12.090
I think what we need is more policy that they

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01:13:12.149 --> 01:13:16.140
have been pursuing. These Jones Act waivers, the long history

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01:13:16.180 --> 01:13:19.079
that any president's done thanks to President Trump, great policy

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01:13:19.100 --> 01:13:21.640
that Congress should get back in here that lets oil

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01:13:21.680 --> 01:13:24.819
move port-to-port easier and lower gas prices. It's been hugely

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effective while it's.

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Been in place.

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You know, we live by free markets. We should die

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01:13:29.270 --> 01:13:31.670
by free markets, in my humble opinion. I mean, this

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01:13:31.729 --> 01:13:35.329
is what truly has made America great, is that when

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the government comes in and starts manipulating things and thinks

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01:13:38.310 --> 01:13:41.340
they know better, I mean, they mess up time and

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01:13:41.380 --> 01:13:43.779
time again. You'd think they'd learn their lesson, but they

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01:13:43.819 --> 01:13:46.949
just can't help themselves because... They look at particularly on

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01:13:46.970 --> 01:13:49.390
the left. They look at everything through a political lens.

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What's the political advantage? Forget about, you know, which is

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01:13:53.189 --> 01:13:57.119
really it's more of a transactional political advantage. It's not

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01:13:57.340 --> 01:14:01.020
anything long term. It is something that time and again,

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when these decisions are made based on a political advantage

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01:14:04.649 --> 01:14:08.479
or they're transactional in nature. You know, we end up

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01:14:08.520 --> 01:14:10.310
a couple of years down the road regretting and say,

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01:14:10.409 --> 01:14:13.829
what were we thinking? And then worse yet, it stays

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01:14:13.930 --> 01:14:16.970
in place until you get somebody like Donald Trump who

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01:14:16.989 --> 01:14:19.430
has the courage to say, what, are you guys nuts?

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01:14:19.470 --> 01:14:21.550
What are you doing here? Can't you see that this

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01:14:21.630 --> 01:14:24.029
is interfering with the free market flow, like you said?

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01:14:24.489 --> 01:14:27.310
Perfect example of this is during the Biden administration, right?

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01:14:27.630 --> 01:14:31.050
Because of the energy policy they pursued to purposely limit production,

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01:14:31.810 --> 01:14:33.869
when we got closer to the election, the Biden administration,

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01:14:34.270 --> 01:14:39.079
they started releasing our strategic petroleum reserves strictly for political reasons,

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01:14:39.779 --> 01:14:43.210
lower gas prices, rather than reversing their policies, short-term get

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01:14:43.250 --> 01:14:47.189
us through the election, depleted our stock. And now when

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01:14:47.210 --> 01:14:49.949
we're in an actual war with Iran, we don't have

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those to rely on. I think the fault of the

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01:14:52.750 --> 01:14:55.640
Biden administration, both for their energy policy and specifically the

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01:14:55.649 --> 01:14:59.359
strategic petroleum reserves, Democrats deserve more blame for the current situation.

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01:14:59.960 --> 01:15:02.640
I would encourage President Trump, and they are doing this,

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01:15:03.060 --> 01:15:04.920
to put more pressure on the Europeans to get more

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01:15:04.939 --> 01:15:07.279
of their reserves on the market. to make up for

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01:15:07.319 --> 01:15:09.479
the fact, look at what they've been doing to limit

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01:15:10.180 --> 01:15:14.430
production in all of Europe. But again, here, we can't

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01:15:14.510 --> 01:15:16.890
do more damage. The first rule should be no harm.

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01:15:17.609 --> 01:15:19.350
I think Trump's going to come down the right spot.

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We're not going to pursue this. We're going to keep

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driving American energy production.

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01:15:22.909 --> 01:15:26.640
Well, and to your point, I thought President Trump's address

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to the United Nations was brilliant. I mean, you talk

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about stature and you think, again, There's such a great

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01:15:35.369 --> 01:15:40.210
contrast between the current president and the previous president, the

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01:15:40.270 --> 01:15:45.600
current administration versus the previous administration. The Congress, again, the

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01:15:45.649 --> 01:15:50.060
contrast difference, even though things are not working out exactly

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01:15:50.100 --> 01:15:52.500
the way we'd hoped to, considering we have the majority

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in both houses. But regardless, I mean, here we get

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01:15:57.739 --> 01:16:01.079
the big, beautiful bill. We've got lots of victories, you know,

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01:16:01.729 --> 01:16:05.649
Trump has done a lot to really factor in the

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01:16:05.720 --> 01:16:10.500
affordability issue by answering these problems, putting money in the

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01:16:10.560 --> 01:16:14.739
pockets of American citizens. But, you know, the American citizens

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01:16:14.880 --> 01:16:18.699
are being propagandized. They're being gaslit by the mainstream media.

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01:16:19.020 --> 01:16:20.720
And this is why Trump has had it with these

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01:16:20.760 --> 01:16:22.600
people and saying, hey, look, you know what? I don't

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01:16:22.649 --> 01:16:24.390
want you in the White House, regardless of what a

1318
01:16:24.430 --> 01:16:27.789
judge says. You know, they got a temporary restraining order.

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01:16:27.810 --> 01:16:29.630
I guess they're going to find some way to weasel

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01:16:29.670 --> 01:16:33.399
themselves back in there. But, you know, be that as

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01:16:33.479 --> 01:16:37.460
it may, you know, he's calling out the media to say, look,

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01:16:37.920 --> 01:16:41.359
you need to be doing a service to the American people,

1323
01:16:41.699 --> 01:16:45.579
and that is report on the facts, on the news,

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01:16:45.920 --> 01:16:47.800
not a bunch of political commentary.

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01:16:47.819 --> 01:16:50.619
And, Bill, that's so important because really, and again, what

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01:16:50.640 --> 01:16:52.970
are elections about? It's about drawing a contrast with the

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01:16:52.979 --> 01:16:57.050
vision for America. There is no policy Democrats are offering

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01:16:57.470 --> 01:16:59.649
that are going to lower gas prices or lower energy prices.

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01:17:00.800 --> 01:17:03.359
This is what they've always had the intention of purposely doing.

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01:17:04.340 --> 01:17:06.699
We have to be constantly reminding people of that, that

1331
01:17:06.720 --> 01:17:08.100
Democrats are going to come in, they're going to push

1332
01:17:08.119 --> 01:17:11.130
carbon taxes, they're going to push in subsidies for electric

1333
01:17:11.170 --> 01:17:15.350
vehicles and wind and solar, and they're going to drive

1334
01:17:15.550 --> 01:17:18.909
up gas prices, energy prices, home heating. That's what they

1335
01:17:19.050 --> 01:17:20.329
actively campaign on.

1336
01:17:20.869 --> 01:17:21.069
Right.

1337
01:17:21.189 --> 01:17:23.189
So for the media to just sit back and not

1338
01:17:23.260 --> 01:17:25.220
cover that as part of the story here, that part

1339
01:17:25.239 --> 01:17:28.539
of the problem is Democrat policy over decades.

1340
01:17:29.159 --> 01:17:29.380
Yeah.

1341
01:17:30.020 --> 01:17:32.539
We need to be drawing that contrast. And again, showing

1342
01:17:32.579 --> 01:17:36.140
that we're the pro-energy drill baby drill party. That's the

1343
01:17:36.159 --> 01:17:37.500
issue here that we need.

1344
01:17:38.159 --> 01:17:38.340
Yeah.

1345
01:17:38.399 --> 01:17:42.460
And let's go after the engines of American industry, the billionaires,

1346
01:17:42.500 --> 01:17:45.770
the people who have been successful. Let's go and go

1347
01:17:45.869 --> 01:17:49.829
after them, dox them, make them look bad for working

1348
01:17:49.909 --> 01:17:54.130
hard and participating in the free market system. And they've

1349
01:17:54.170 --> 01:17:56.510
benefited from it. And, you know, without even, you know,

1350
01:17:56.609 --> 01:17:59.350
everything's all one-sided. You know, they talk about the billionaires.

1351
01:17:59.670 --> 01:18:03.270
But they don't talk about their generosity, what they're doing

1352
01:18:03.310 --> 01:18:06.810
in terms of how much money that they contribute, not

1353
01:18:06.890 --> 01:18:11.479
only to their employees and the communities in other, you know,

1354
01:18:11.500 --> 01:18:15.819
philanthropic activities. But, you know, all that set aside is just, oh,

1355
01:18:15.859 --> 01:18:18.079
they have billions and I don't. And now all of

1356
01:18:18.100 --> 01:18:21.060
a sudden, you know, because the Democrats are great. at

1357
01:18:21.140 --> 01:18:24.760
creating the racial divide. You know, anything that looks like

1358
01:18:24.819 --> 01:18:27.819
a racial divide, I mean, they've got that model down.

1359
01:18:28.159 --> 01:18:30.779
And as soon as they can put it into that

1360
01:18:30.859 --> 01:18:33.359
working system, you know, that's what they're doing right now.

1361
01:18:33.479 --> 01:18:37.140
And of course, that's what socialists have done from time immemorial.

1362
01:18:37.180 --> 01:18:38.279
So there's nothing new here.

1363
01:18:38.310 --> 01:18:39.550
Yeah, right.

1364
01:18:39.819 --> 01:18:41.970
They want to divide you politically for race, class, and

1365
01:18:41.989 --> 01:18:45.229
gender to distract you from what's actually happening in your life,

1366
01:18:45.909 --> 01:18:49.930
from what policies are being put forward, whether those in

1367
01:18:50.359 --> 01:18:53.859
or negatively impact your life. I think you take the

1368
01:18:53.899 --> 01:18:56.859
example of Trump accounts. I can't think of any substantive

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01:18:57.220 --> 01:18:59.590
argument Democrats have put forward why this is a bad idea.

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01:18:59.970 --> 01:19:04.609
We're seeing record philanthropic giving, where you're seeing these millionaires

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01:19:04.649 --> 01:19:09.550
and billionaires that Democrats detest so much making massive contributions

1372
01:19:09.569 --> 01:19:14.100
to to millions of children's Trump accounts and entire area

1373
01:19:14.149 --> 01:19:15.380
codes across the country.

1374
01:19:15.560 --> 01:19:16.300
Right, exactly.

1375
01:19:16.680 --> 01:19:18.880
There's been no argument about why a new savings account

1376
01:19:18.920 --> 01:19:21.859
that lets you save and invest more of your own money,

1377
01:19:22.260 --> 01:19:25.260
make you less dependent on the government for retirement in

1378
01:19:25.300 --> 01:19:29.409
these philanthropic contributions to those accounts from wealthy individuals. There's

1379
01:19:29.430 --> 01:19:31.590
no substantive critique to this or why this is bad

1380
01:19:31.609 --> 01:19:33.930
for Americans. They just hate that it's called Trump accounts.

1381
01:19:34.569 --> 01:19:34.710
Right.

1382
01:19:35.329 --> 01:19:37.569
And again, what are they offering to improve your life?

1383
01:19:37.609 --> 01:19:40.239
I can't think of any policy. Well, the Trump administration...

1384
01:19:40.140 --> 01:19:42.560
has put more money in your pocket by letting you

1385
01:19:42.619 --> 01:19:45.010
keep more of your own money and tearing down government barriers.

1386
01:19:45.630 --> 01:19:48.630
And this could end up being the solution to the

1387
01:19:48.710 --> 01:19:52.449
Social Security debacle that we're in the middle of, that

1388
01:19:52.470 --> 01:19:54.359
we're being told that it's going to be gone in

1389
01:19:54.399 --> 01:19:56.539
another five or six years. It's going to go bankrupt.

1390
01:19:56.979 --> 01:19:59.159
I mean, you've got so many Americans that have paid

1391
01:19:59.319 --> 01:20:04.279
into it. That is their money. And the government has

1392
01:20:04.479 --> 01:20:09.630
basically They've come in and robbed from the taxpayer that money,

1393
01:20:09.829 --> 01:20:13.109
and now it's bankrupt. And they're just, oh, well, it's

1394
01:20:13.130 --> 01:20:15.369
going to go bankrupt in about six years. Like, no

1395
01:20:15.390 --> 01:20:17.010
big problem. Are you kidding me?

1396
01:20:17.750 --> 01:20:20.210
And Democrats view a crisis as an opportunity.

1397
01:20:20.609 --> 01:20:20.829
Sure.

1398
01:20:21.010 --> 01:20:24.449
Democrat plan on Social Security. They're going to hike payroll taxes,

1399
01:20:25.449 --> 01:20:27.720
which is essentially a payroll tax, a tax increase on

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01:20:27.810 --> 01:20:33.199
every American. They're going to put that burden on working families.

1401
01:20:33.819 --> 01:20:37.840
to keep subsidizing larger checks out, they're gonna lower the

1402
01:20:37.880 --> 01:20:41.829
retirement age and give more gracious benefits because they want

1403
01:20:41.890 --> 01:20:44.310
you dependent on government. They want it so that you

1404
01:20:44.369 --> 01:20:48.550
have to vote Democrat in order to have a secure retirement. Republicans,

1405
01:20:48.569 --> 01:20:50.130
they wanna let you keep more of your own money.

1406
01:20:50.449 --> 01:20:53.109
They want you less dependent on government for retirement. And again,

1407
01:20:53.130 --> 01:20:55.670
that's what the Trump administration, they're not just talking about it,

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01:20:55.670 --> 01:20:58.960
they've delivered it. They've done that with Trump accounts. They've

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01:20:58.979 --> 01:21:02.100
done that with expanding health savings accounts. These are major

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and Democrats don't want you to know about.

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How many Americans are dependent on these policies that the

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Democrats have instituted, Mike? We've got to wrap things up,

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Go ahead.

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Yeah, I think what Democrats like to do is they

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Exactly.

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He's ATR's tax policy director, Mike Palast. Thank you, Mike.

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Hey, good morning. Welcome back. Glad you could join us.

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Bill Martinez here, and we're going to be talking fibromyalgia. Well,

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it's important because it affects an estimated 10 million adults

1488
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in the U.S. Most of them women, yet only around

1489
01:25:44.640 --> 01:25:48.439
3 million patients are diagnosed and treated annually. Now, this

1490
01:25:48.479 --> 01:25:51.760
chronic condition is very painful. It affects the whole body,

1491
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causing widespread pain, fatigue, brain fog, disturbed sleep, can be

1492
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misunderstood and undiagnosed for years. For someone living with fibromyalgia,

1493
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even the simplest text can be exhausting or feel impossible.

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And here to tell us more about it is Dr.

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01:26:10.439 --> 01:26:10.699
Andrea.

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Thank you so much for being with Dr. Andrea Chadwick.

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How are you?

1498
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I'm doing great. Thank you so much for having me.

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01:26:18.090 --> 01:26:21.250
Well, Dr. Chadwick is a pain medicine physician at the

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Academic Center Clinical and Translational physician scientist. And, you know,

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01:26:28.229 --> 01:26:31.750
thank you for being here because fibromyalgia is one of

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01:26:31.789 --> 01:26:33.729
those that we hear about, you know, we see ads,

1503
01:26:33.770 --> 01:26:36.239
but I don't think we quite understand unless you happen

1504
01:26:36.260 --> 01:26:37.380
to be affected by it, right?

1505
01:26:39.020 --> 01:26:41.779
Absolutely. It's often misunderstood and overlooked.

1506
01:26:42.899 --> 01:26:45.140
So exactly what is fibromyalgia?

1507
01:26:47.029 --> 01:26:51.489
So fibromyalgia is often misunderstood or overlooked because it has

1508
01:26:51.529 --> 01:26:54.069
a lengthy diagnostic journey. And we'll talk a little bit

1509
01:26:54.109 --> 01:26:58.189
about the symptoms in just a minute. With patients, they

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01:26:58.220 --> 01:27:02.380
wait about 6.4 years from their first symptom-related complaint to

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01:27:02.439 --> 01:27:06.579
receiving that official diagnosis. It's also important to point out

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01:27:06.640 --> 01:27:11.420
that because symptoms associated with fibromyalgia might overlap with other conditions,

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01:27:12.060 --> 01:27:15.880
and they're also not outwardly apparent in some individuals, These

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01:27:15.920 --> 01:27:20.340
people can report challenges with navigating that diagnostic journey. And

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01:27:20.420 --> 01:27:24.000
as you mentioned, fibromyalgia is more than just pain. It's

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01:27:24.039 --> 01:27:26.520
a condition that affects your whole body and can cause

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01:27:26.619 --> 01:27:30.159
many symptoms. Fibromyalgia is an example of a type of

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01:27:30.199 --> 01:27:33.479
pain that comes from altered pain processing within the central

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01:27:33.539 --> 01:27:39.149
nervous system. And we call that nociplastic pain. The characteristic

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01:27:39.229 --> 01:27:44.960
core symptoms of fibromyalgia can include widespread chronic pain, non-restorative

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01:27:45.000 --> 01:27:48.920
sleep and fatigue. It's also important to point out that

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01:27:49.020 --> 01:27:53.159
fibromyalgia symptoms may fluctuate over time and that patients may

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01:27:53.220 --> 01:27:56.920
report symptom intensity that changes. And it could be based

1524
01:27:56.979 --> 01:27:59.810
on a variety of different factors such as stress, the

1525
01:27:59.859 --> 01:28:03.930
environment or activity. And ultimately what this does, it can

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01:28:03.970 --> 01:28:07.770
make it really difficult for patients with fibromyalgia to maintain

1527
01:28:07.869 --> 01:28:09.170
consistent routines.

1528
01:28:10.550 --> 01:28:13.670
Well, and as you say, because fibromyalgia it's a bit

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01:28:13.710 --> 01:28:16.630
of a rollercoaster ride. You know, the patient might think, okay,

1530
01:28:16.649 --> 01:28:19.029
I got this. I'm doing okay. It's not so bad.

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01:28:19.439 --> 01:28:21.300
And this is probably why it takes so long to

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01:28:21.340 --> 01:28:25.680
really diagnose the issue because it can be somewhat ghost-like.

1533
01:28:25.739 --> 01:28:26.460
Is that fair to say?

1534
01:28:27.779 --> 01:28:28.439
Absolutely.

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01:28:28.479 --> 01:28:31.479
Like I mentioned, you know, those symptoms can overlap with

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01:28:31.520 --> 01:28:35.829
other conditions. Patients may not have any outwardly apparent symptoms

1537
01:28:35.890 --> 01:28:39.149
or signs, and this really leads to them having a

1538
01:28:39.229 --> 01:28:42.779
difficult time navigating that diagnostic journey, which can involve a

1539
01:28:42.819 --> 01:28:45.560
lot of different physicians over time until they get that

1540
01:28:45.619 --> 01:28:49.859
official diagnosis, which, as we mentioned, can take up to 6.4 years.

1541
01:28:50.260 --> 01:28:51.300
Wow, that's crazy.

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01:28:51.859 --> 01:28:52.119
Dr.

1543
01:28:52.159 --> 01:28:56.300
Chadwick, as you mentioned, for someone living with fibromyalgia, even

1544
01:28:56.319 --> 01:28:59.479
the simplest tasks can be exhausting or feel impossible. For

1545
01:28:59.520 --> 01:29:02.859
more than 15 years, people living with fibromyalgia have experienced

1546
01:29:02.920 --> 01:29:07.539
limited treatment options. Now there's another option for those living

1547
01:29:07.579 --> 01:29:08.460
with this pain, right?

1548
01:29:10.199 --> 01:29:10.560
Yeah.

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01:29:10.680 --> 01:29:13.100
I mean, so there's a, as you mentioned, there's a

1550
01:29:13.300 --> 01:29:16.739
new agent that has come out, the first FDA approved

1551
01:29:16.760 --> 01:29:21.000
treatment in over 15 years. It's really important to talk

1552
01:29:21.039 --> 01:29:24.050
about this because over 10 million adults in the United

1553
01:29:24.119 --> 01:29:28.130
States most of whom are women, are affected by fibromyalgia.

1554
01:29:28.310 --> 01:29:32.880
And again, it's that chronic syndrome characterized mainly by widespread pain,

1555
01:29:33.100 --> 01:29:37.640
non-restorative sleep, and fatigue. So the approval of Tenmya, which

1556
01:29:37.720 --> 01:29:43.810
is spelled T-O-N-M-Y-A, really could mark a shift in fibromyalgia

1557
01:29:43.850 --> 01:29:47.029
care for patients who are suffering with this. And again,

1558
01:29:47.090 --> 01:29:51.369
it's the first FDA therapy for the treatment of fibromyalgia

1559
01:29:51.430 --> 01:29:54.550
in adults in over 15 years, which is a really

1560
01:29:54.899 --> 01:29:55.630
big breakthrough.

1561
01:29:56.449 --> 01:30:00.010
Now, how is this medication delivered? And is it so

1562
01:30:00.050 --> 01:30:02.010
much different than what's been out there before?

1563
01:30:03.930 --> 01:30:07.630
So Tenmaya is a prescription medication used in adults for

1564
01:30:07.670 --> 01:30:11.060
the treatment of fibromyalgia. And it's not known if Tenmaya

1565
01:30:11.180 --> 01:30:16.020
is safe and effective in children. Tenmaya is a non-opioid

1566
01:30:16.060 --> 01:30:19.079
medication that's taken once a day at bedtime and its

1567
01:30:19.220 --> 01:30:23.789
unique sublingual formulation, which means it's, sorry, can we start

1568
01:30:23.829 --> 01:30:24.609
that question again?

1569
01:30:25.130 --> 01:30:26.750
Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. Start from the top.

1570
01:30:26.770 --> 01:30:27.170
Okay.

1571
01:30:28.149 --> 01:30:28.949
Hold on one second.

1572
01:30:29.409 --> 01:30:31.569
Go ahead. I'll cut that out. I'll make a note

1573
01:30:31.590 --> 01:30:31.869
to end it.

1574
01:30:32.090 --> 01:30:32.329
All right.

1575
01:30:32.369 --> 01:30:32.750
No worries.

1576
01:30:32.869 --> 01:30:33.149
Okay.

1577
01:30:33.170 --> 01:30:37.350
Thank you so much. Well, Tenmaya is a prescription medicine

1578
01:30:37.489 --> 01:30:40.489
used in adults for the treatment of fibromyalgia, and it

1579
01:30:40.569 --> 01:30:43.720
is not known if Tenmaya is safe and effective in children.

1580
01:30:44.600 --> 01:30:48.359
Tamiya is a non-opioid medication that is taken once a

1581
01:30:48.380 --> 01:30:52.500
day at bedtime, and its unique sublingual formulation, which means

1582
01:30:52.539 --> 01:30:56.460
it dissolves under the tongue, is designed for rapid absorption

1583
01:30:56.500 --> 01:31:01.479
into the bloodstream. The sublingual formulation is designed to initially

1584
01:31:01.560 --> 01:31:07.130
bypass first-pass liver metabolism, which reduces the conversion of cyclobenzaprine

1585
01:31:07.210 --> 01:31:15.399
to norecyclobenzaprine, a metabolite that is linked to wake-promoting activity. Additionally, Tenmaya,

1586
01:31:15.640 --> 01:31:19.260
as a sublingual cyclobenzaprine, is given at a low dose,

1587
01:31:19.720 --> 01:31:24.340
which is 5.6 milligrams after two weeks at 2.8 milligrams

1588
01:31:24.420 --> 01:31:29.319
for the treatment of fibromyalgia. Tenmaya is the only formulation

1589
01:31:29.359 --> 01:31:35.119
of cyclobenzaprine that is FDA-approved for fibromyalgia, and Tenmaya demonstrated

1590
01:31:35.159 --> 01:31:39.640
a significant improvement in widespread pain symptoms across two Phase

1591
01:31:39.739 --> 01:31:44.550
III clinical trials. In these clinical studies of Tenmaia, the

1592
01:31:44.609 --> 01:31:48.220
side effects were generally manageable. The most common ones that

1593
01:31:48.260 --> 01:31:53.039
were reported in clinical trial, these clinical trials were mouth numbness,

1594
01:31:53.340 --> 01:31:58.310
mouth discomfort, an abnormal taste in the mouth, feeling sleepy, fatigue,

1595
01:31:58.750 --> 01:32:01.270
dry mouth, canker sores, as well as tingling in the

1596
01:32:01.310 --> 01:32:02.289
mouth and mouth pain.

1597
01:32:03.970 --> 01:32:09.020
Well, we're talking with Dr. Andrew Chadwick, a professor of anesthesiology,

1598
01:32:09.140 --> 01:32:14.050
pain and perioperative medicine at an academic center and a

1599
01:32:14.069 --> 01:32:19.609
board-certified anesthesiologist and pain medicine physician. You know, Dr. Chadwick,

1600
01:32:19.649 --> 01:32:23.729
I think anytime you can reduce pain, I mean, you know,

1601
01:32:24.189 --> 01:32:26.829
this is almost miraculous for all that people have been

1602
01:32:26.869 --> 01:32:29.050
dealing with, you know, traditionally, right?

1603
01:32:30.850 --> 01:32:35.449
Absolutely. You know, chronic pain is very impactful. And having

1604
01:32:35.489 --> 01:32:39.250
a new option for therapy is really a wonderful breakthrough

1605
01:32:39.289 --> 01:32:41.350
for those who are suffering with the condition.

1606
01:32:42.430 --> 01:32:47.399
Now, for patients who are dealing with fibromyalgia, just bring

1607
01:32:47.439 --> 01:32:50.539
it all into perspective for our audience. And that is,

1608
01:32:51.060 --> 01:32:52.939
you know, what they say to you repeatedly. I know

1609
01:32:52.979 --> 01:32:55.079
we touched on the fact that, you know, it takes

1610
01:32:55.380 --> 01:32:58.159
over six years for people to really understand what they're

1611
01:32:58.180 --> 01:33:01.430
dealing with here. What are the patients telling you?

1612
01:33:03.350 --> 01:33:05.850
Well, the patients are really kind of describing the things

1613
01:33:05.890 --> 01:33:08.670
we've talked about before, which is that they've struggled to

1614
01:33:08.710 --> 01:33:12.600
get that diagnosis. They've waited an average of that 6.4

1615
01:33:12.600 --> 01:33:18.359
years from their first symptom-related complaint to a clinician to

1616
01:33:18.399 --> 01:33:21.899
get that diagnosis. And as we mentioned, it's more than

1617
01:33:22.020 --> 01:33:25.000
just pain. It affects their whole body, their whole life.

1618
01:33:25.060 --> 01:33:29.279
It can cause many different symptoms. which include that chronic

1619
01:33:29.319 --> 01:33:32.920
widespread pain, but also the non-restorative sleep and the fatigue,

1620
01:33:32.960 --> 01:33:36.520
which oftentimes is just as impactful as the pain that

1621
01:33:36.539 --> 01:33:40.890
they're dealing with. And so, you know, having that different

1622
01:33:41.010 --> 01:33:44.729
option with Tenmaya is really, could mark that shift in

1623
01:33:44.739 --> 01:33:46.489
fibromyalgia care for patients.

1624
01:33:47.489 --> 01:33:51.510
How can family members come alongside? Because, you know, having support,

1625
01:33:51.529 --> 01:33:54.250
I mean, because like anything, we all have blind spots.

1626
01:33:54.510 --> 01:33:57.170
Family members are the first to see those blind spots.

1627
01:33:57.880 --> 01:34:03.399
And we want to be a helpful agent with our

1628
01:34:03.439 --> 01:34:08.210
loved one who is experiencing this kind of frustrating lifestyle.

1629
01:34:08.250 --> 01:34:12.609
I mean, no sleep, pain, exhaustion. I mean, just load

1630
01:34:12.630 --> 01:34:15.270
it up here. I mean, before you know it, you're

1631
01:34:15.289 --> 01:34:16.720
carrying quite the load, aren't you?

1632
01:34:18.489 --> 01:34:21.609
You know, I think it's just so important. And as

1633
01:34:21.630 --> 01:34:24.470
you point out, the impact of all of these different

1634
01:34:24.510 --> 01:34:27.069
symptoms that can take a toll on a person as

1635
01:34:27.109 --> 01:34:30.649
they're just trying to have, you know, live their best life.

1636
01:34:30.810 --> 01:34:34.020
And so having those family members as a support system

1637
01:34:34.100 --> 01:34:37.859
is also very, very important in those patients along this journey.

1638
01:34:39.119 --> 01:34:42.220
What would you tell someone with fibromyalgia who wants to

1639
01:34:42.239 --> 01:34:44.699
talk to their doctors about these new treatment options?

1640
01:34:46.119 --> 01:34:49.390
Well, I would tell someone with fibromyalgia that Tenmaya is

1641
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approved for the treatment of fibromyalgia in adults and can

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be used as indicated as a first-line treatment. It's also

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important to know that any adult with fibromyalgia is eligible

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for Tenmaya, but there are exceptions for specific contraindications as

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noted in the label. People should talk with their doctor

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to determine whether Tenmaya may be an option for them.

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And as always, patients should always inform their doctor of

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other medical conditions as well as other medicines that they

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Well, we've been talking with Dr. Andrea Chadwick. She is

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a double board certified anesthesiologist and pain medicine doctor and

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directs research focused on fibromyalgia and chronic centralized pain. Dr. Chadwick,

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thank you so much for being with us as we

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wrap things up. Tell everybody where they can go for

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01:35:38.619 --> 01:35:39.359
more information.

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Well, for more information, people can visit Tenmaya.com and it's

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been an absolute pleasure to speak with you today. Thank

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you so much for your time.

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Hey, we're back with you. I'm Bill Martinez. He's Bill Pascoe,

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TPP's man in Washington. He's got his thumb right on

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the heartbeat. and the pulse of what's happening in D.C.

1725
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and the Beltway. Who's working today?

1726
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The Senate is working today. That's who's working today. The

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Senate is working today. And the president and the vice

1728
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president both have public events today. We're what, 35 days

1729
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out now? The president said he was going to do

1730
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a barnstorming 30 days. I think he's getting started early.

1731
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We had the announcement yesterday of a $ 15 billion steel

1732
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plant going into Iowa.

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How awesome is that?

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That's the biggest deal in Iowa in a long time.

1735
01:40:39.020 --> 01:40:42.520
Can you imagine? I mean, again, Trump does these things, Bill.

1736
01:40:42.619 --> 01:40:45.159
I got to imagine the Democrat leadership in the back

1737
01:40:45.180 --> 01:40:46.979
room going, why didn't we think of that?

1738
01:40:47.399 --> 01:40:47.539
Yeah.

1739
01:40:48.970 --> 01:40:51.909
Yeah, you're exactly right. It's so far outside the box,

1740
01:40:51.930 --> 01:40:53.869
and it's the kind of thing that only Trump could

1741
01:40:53.909 --> 01:40:57.899
come up with and just muscle it through. I was thinking,

1742
01:40:58.069 --> 01:41:00.840
wait a minute, Steele, that's supposed to be Pennsylvania. Why

1743
01:41:00.899 --> 01:41:03.939
isn't that Josh Shapiro taking credit for that? Oh, wait,

1744
01:41:04.380 --> 01:41:07.199
because the Democrat governor that a lot of people are

1745
01:41:07.220 --> 01:41:10.520
looking at as their potential presidential candidate in a couple years,

1746
01:41:10.979 --> 01:41:13.479
he was kind of slow off the mark, and all

1747
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of a sudden Steele is going to Iowa because President

1748
01:41:16.159 --> 01:41:20.039
Trump said, Let's put steel in Iowa. That's it's just

1749
01:41:21.180 --> 01:41:23.880
it's another example of Trump outside the box thinking.

1750
01:41:24.239 --> 01:41:26.399
It's something to note here, Bill, just what you just said.

1751
01:41:26.920 --> 01:41:29.600
And that is things are with Trump on Trump time

1752
01:41:29.680 --> 01:41:32.880
with expediency. I mean, he's not going to wait until

1753
01:41:32.920 --> 01:41:36.340
you're in a better mood. I mean, business moves at

1754
01:41:36.380 --> 01:41:39.979
the speed of light and as it is necessary to move.

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01:41:40.720 --> 01:41:43.500
And if you want to contemplate it and have meetings

1756
01:41:43.579 --> 01:41:47.979
upon meetings to figure it out, you know, these superintelligent centers,

1757
01:41:48.840 --> 01:41:51.659
they may not be in a city near you because

1758
01:41:51.729 --> 01:41:54.510
somebody else is willing to pull the trigger and make

1759
01:41:54.550 --> 01:41:57.130
it happen and look at all the jobs and what

1760
01:41:57.170 --> 01:42:00.210
will happen to those communities as a result. And on

1761
01:42:00.270 --> 01:42:03.590
top of that, I believe it's the Senate trying to

1762
01:42:03.649 --> 01:42:07.390
secure the idea that these data centers will not be

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01:42:07.550 --> 01:42:11.960
at the expense of of local entities. But great idea.

1764
01:42:12.260 --> 01:42:14.579
But who's blocking that now? The Democrats.

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01:42:15.000 --> 01:42:18.180
Who's blocking that is Martin Heinrich, the Democrat from New Mexico.

1766
01:42:18.300 --> 01:42:20.659
And why is he blocking it? We talked about this

1767
01:42:20.699 --> 01:42:24.739
last week. This is a bill that went through the House,

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01:42:24.739 --> 01:42:25.680
417 to 3, Bill.

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01:42:25.720 --> 01:42:25.960
Right.

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01:42:26.159 --> 01:42:28.649
And as I said last week, it's still true. We

1771
01:42:28.659 --> 01:42:31.529
don't get 417 people in the House to agree that

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01:42:31.569 --> 01:42:34.579
the sun rises in the east. It just doesn't happen.

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01:42:34.859 --> 01:42:37.859
So when you get 417 votes in the House, you

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01:42:37.880 --> 01:42:40.260
got to look at that and say, wow, this is

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01:42:40.300 --> 01:42:43.720
a good piece of legislation. It must be by definition.

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01:42:45.039 --> 01:42:48.100
And the Senate had to come back another week. They've

1777
01:42:48.140 --> 01:42:49.689
got to be in town because they've got to go

1778
01:42:49.699 --> 01:42:53.550
through the procedural heavy lifting that it takes to pass

1779
01:42:53.609 --> 01:42:58.229
a bill if there's a block to unanimous consent. The

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01:42:58.270 --> 01:43:01.810
Senate can move very quickly if all 100 senators agree

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01:43:01.890 --> 01:43:04.729
to move very quickly. they have what's called a unanimous

1782
01:43:04.770 --> 01:43:08.569
consent request. And it's basically, I ask unanimous consent that

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01:43:08.649 --> 01:43:10.850
we shove the rules in the corner and we just

1784
01:43:10.949 --> 01:43:14.960
move this sucker really quickly. And they can do that

1785
01:43:15.100 --> 01:43:18.560
if all 100 senators agree. If one senator disagrees, nope,

1786
01:43:18.739 --> 01:43:20.760
you got to go through the rules and the rules

1787
01:43:20.779 --> 01:43:24.279
are meant to slow things down in the Senate. Okay,

1788
01:43:24.699 --> 01:43:27.180
so this week we will be voting in the Senate

1789
01:43:27.579 --> 01:43:31.319
on the procedural motion to get started considering the Ratepayer

1790
01:43:31.359 --> 01:43:34.430
Protection Act which is a piece of legislation sponsored by

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01:43:34.489 --> 01:43:37.989
John Huston, the senator from Ohio, where there's a lot

1792
01:43:38.029 --> 01:43:39.949
of new data centers going up and a lot of

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01:43:39.970 --> 01:43:42.689
people want to put more data centers there. I don't

1794
01:43:42.720 --> 01:43:46.119
know why, frankly. You know, one county over from me

1795
01:43:46.260 --> 01:43:49.699
in Northern Virginia is Loudoun County, where half the data

1796
01:43:49.739 --> 01:43:53.100
centers in the country have been placed. Over the last

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01:43:53.100 --> 01:43:55.390
10 years, you go talk to people in Loudoun County,

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01:43:55.899 --> 01:43:58.840
They're not unhappy about data centers. You know why? Because

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01:43:58.880 --> 01:44:02.729
their electricity rates have gone down and their property taxes

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01:44:02.810 --> 01:44:05.529
have gone down because the people who are building the

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01:44:05.569 --> 01:44:08.350
data centers are now forking over lots and lots of

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01:44:08.409 --> 01:44:09.750
money in tax revenue.

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01:44:10.430 --> 01:44:10.949
Imagine that.

1804
01:44:11.949 --> 01:44:15.869
Imagine that. So what you need is some good local politicians,

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01:44:15.930 --> 01:44:18.640
some zoning officials who know how to cut the deals

1806
01:44:18.689 --> 01:44:20.520
with the people who have the money who want to

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01:44:20.539 --> 01:44:21.479
build the data centers.

1808
01:44:22.369 --> 01:44:25.590
All right. Answer me this, because you've got experience there

1809
01:44:25.670 --> 01:44:28.710
in Loudoun County. What's the noise level issue? I mean,

1810
01:44:28.729 --> 01:44:31.729
the media has been bringing up this like, you know,

1811
01:44:31.789 --> 01:44:34.109
some kind of red herring or something.

1812
01:44:34.130 --> 01:44:34.449
I don't know.

1813
01:44:34.470 --> 01:44:35.050
It's bizarre.

1814
01:44:35.609 --> 01:44:38.470
You know, I live in a house so I can

1815
01:44:38.489 --> 01:44:41.310
have a basement so I can play my loudspeakers loud.

1816
01:44:41.350 --> 01:44:43.550
I like to listen to Led Zeppelin. I'm old school.

1817
01:44:43.569 --> 01:44:46.369
I like to listen to Led Zeppelin at concert levels,

1818
01:44:46.409 --> 01:44:48.029
about 105 decibels.

1819
01:44:48.720 --> 01:44:48.909
Yeah.

1820
01:44:49.180 --> 01:44:49.569
Guess what?

1821
01:44:50.390 --> 01:44:53.250
Outside my house, I had to check this out, but

1822
01:44:53.930 --> 01:44:56.350
I wanted to make sure that I wasn't in violation

1823
01:44:56.560 --> 01:45:00.239
of any noise ordinances where I live. Outside my house,

1824
01:45:00.260 --> 01:45:03.260
when it's playing at 105 decibels inside my house, outside

1825
01:45:03.279 --> 01:45:08.750
my house, 10 feet from the structure, 50 decibels. You

1826
01:45:08.770 --> 01:45:12.199
can't hear it. Okay, that's what the data centers are

1827
01:45:12.380 --> 01:45:14.539
in Loudoun County. If you're right next to them, and

1828
01:45:14.560 --> 01:45:17.689
guess what? The TV crews in all these local news

1829
01:45:17.729 --> 01:45:20.229
shots around the country, oh, the data centers are so loud.

1830
01:45:20.409 --> 01:45:24.729
They go put the microphone right next to the sucker. Sure,

1831
01:45:24.869 --> 01:45:26.729
if you put it right next to it, it's going

1832
01:45:26.750 --> 01:45:31.029
to sound loud. But if you're literally 100 feet away, quiet.

1833
01:45:31.590 --> 01:45:36.029
Nobody in Loudoun County is complaining about data center noise.

1834
01:45:36.090 --> 01:45:36.770
Trust me on this.

1835
01:45:37.420 --> 01:45:41.470
Well, you know, only because we need to counter, you know,

1836
01:45:41.670 --> 01:45:44.270
the deception that's being put out there by the mainstream

1837
01:45:44.310 --> 01:45:47.149
media that just wants to find anything that they can

1838
01:45:47.189 --> 01:45:50.210
complain about that Trump is doing that is going to

1839
01:45:50.369 --> 01:45:53.100
advance and make America truly great again.

1840
01:45:53.739 --> 01:45:56.649
Well, let's keep in mind one thing. We've got X,

1841
01:45:56.819 --> 01:46:00.300
excuse me, the former Twitter. Elon Musk bought it. It's

1842
01:46:00.340 --> 01:46:03.409
now called X. Their security team, a couple of weeks ago,

1843
01:46:03.430 --> 01:46:06.649
I think maybe three weeks ago, announced that they had found,

1844
01:46:06.729 --> 01:46:10.970
they had investigated, and they had found a Chinese operation,

1845
01:46:11.010 --> 01:46:15.810
a Chinese influence operation against AI and data centers that

1846
01:46:15.850 --> 01:46:19.729
had 200,000 accounts, fake accounts that were being run by

1847
01:46:19.949 --> 01:46:24.970
Chinese AI. So that means somebody in China decides, here's

1848
01:46:25.010 --> 01:46:28.289
a message that we want to propagate throughout the X sphere,

1849
01:46:28.369 --> 01:46:31.819
throughout the X universe, the X environment. He sends a

1850
01:46:31.859 --> 01:46:36.380
message and instantly there's 200,000 accounts that are replicating and

1851
01:46:36.439 --> 01:46:40.180
passing on that message to all of their networks. What

1852
01:46:40.239 --> 01:46:43.829
is China doing? China doesn't want the United States to

1853
01:46:43.890 --> 01:46:46.970
build AI. China doesn't want the United States to build

1854
01:46:47.010 --> 01:46:50.340
the data centers that will allow the AI explosion to

1855
01:46:50.399 --> 01:46:55.600
take place. So those are two targets of Chinese intelligence services.

1856
01:46:55.960 --> 01:46:59.159
trying to sway public opinion in the United States against

1857
01:46:59.319 --> 01:47:03.180
AI and against data centers. Let's keep in mind, this

1858
01:47:03.279 --> 01:47:07.840
isn't just a race for technological advancement. This is an

1859
01:47:08.020 --> 01:47:11.279
existential race. We have a new Cold War going on.

1860
01:47:11.659 --> 01:47:14.319
And just like the race to the moon wasn't just

1861
01:47:14.600 --> 01:47:18.760
about technological advance, there was another aspect to it nobody

1862
01:47:18.800 --> 01:47:22.050
talked about. Because remember, when we got to the moon first,

1863
01:47:22.680 --> 01:47:26.270
That was only after the Soviets were the first to

1864
01:47:26.310 --> 01:47:29.109
put a satellite in space with Sputnik. That scared the

1865
01:47:29.430 --> 01:47:33.029
bejesus out of everybody in Washington. You better believe it

1866
01:47:33.109 --> 01:47:35.909
because it spoke to missile technology. It spoke to the

1867
01:47:35.970 --> 01:47:40.010
ability to precisely move things through the heavens. Okay, we

1868
01:47:40.050 --> 01:47:43.550
got to the moon first. Did the Russians ever go

1869
01:47:43.569 --> 01:47:45.470
to the moon? No, they didn't go to the moon.

1870
01:47:45.609 --> 01:47:48.050
They just stopped because they knew they had been beaten

1871
01:47:48.550 --> 01:47:52.630
and that was the end of that. I think similarly,

1872
01:47:53.130 --> 01:47:55.550
when we get, and I don't know, I'm not an

1873
01:47:55.609 --> 01:47:58.689
expert in AI, but I think when we get to

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the place where we are declared the winners and everybody

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knows we're the ones who won the AI race, I

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think we're going to see a similar kind of thing

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where China just says, okay, there's no sense in spending

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more money going down this rat hole. The Americans have

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beaten us, period. But we got to get there first.

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And we've got to seal up these barriers, Bill. that

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can make it as impossible as possible that China cannot

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steal our intelligence.

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Oh, you're absolutely right. And whether we're talking about overt

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influence operations like X has announced or covert espionage, And

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believe it, the Chinese aren't just trying to steal secrets

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from the Pentagon and from the U.S.

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Government.

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The Chinese are trying to steal secrets from Google and

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from OpenAI and from Apple and from Amazon. And, you know,

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keep in mind, lots of people, myself included, I still

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think of Amazon as the place that I go to,

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you know, five times a week and order things that

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show up in a box a day or two later.

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That's not how Amazon makes its money anymore. That's how

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we all think of Amazon. Amazon makes its money by

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hosting web services. Amazon is one of the biggest of

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the high-tech companies. And believe me, the Chinese are burrowed

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deep inside Amazon's networks, trying to steal Amazon's most secret secrets.

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Jeff Bezos is well aware of this. All these guys

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are well aware of this. And it is part of

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what is now the existential race to control the future.

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And it's a race that we simply cannot afford to

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lose to the Chinese. And they are our main competitor

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in this.

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Is there any indication whatsoever that the Democrats as a

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party can manage something this complex and moving this quick?

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Is there any indication in the past, in their past behavior,

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that they can do something like this?

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I see no reason to believe that that's the case.

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I'm not even sure that the senior leaders of the

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Democratic Party are aware of the stakes. This is one

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of those places where it wouldn't happen until after the election,

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but it might actually be nice to see the president

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host some of them at the White House and say,

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you know what, it's time for you guys to get

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a briefing. Let me set you up with some of

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the top minds that we have in the government that

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you haven't yet taken the time to meet.

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Yeah, because you hear their responses, Bill. They're so sophomoric

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and emotional. I mean, it's so political. Clearly, you don't

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know what you're talking about. But yet, there are too

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many Americans out there that are following their lead like

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lemmings over the cliff.

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Yeah, well, you know, Abraham Lincoln once said, it's better

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to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool

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than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

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Exactly.

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And that's what I think of a lot of times

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when I see these Democrats on the Sunday shows in

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particular being asked questions about AI. And all they have

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to say is, oh, we've got to slow things down.

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We need guardrails. You know, there's another thing going on here, too,

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and that is something we call regulatory capture. The idea

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of that we've got these four, I think there are

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four giant AI companies. There's OpenAI, and there's Anthropic that

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has Claude, and there's Google, and there's another one. And

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they have now, as of a couple weeks ago, they're

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telling Washington, hey, we need guardrails. And so the president

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and Speaker Johnson are meeting today with some of these

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high-tech CEOs to talk about what kind of guardrails the

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government ought to put on AI, if any. And keep

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in mind, I think what's going on here is these

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guys have now, they've reached the plateau, and they want

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to kick away the ladder.

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You're going exactly where my thought is, exactly.

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That's it. They want to use government to kick away

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the ladder and make sure, since they've achieved market dominance

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in this area, they want to make sure that there's

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not a startup that's a couple years behind that's going

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to leapfrog them. Remember, there was a time when IBM

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was much bigger than Apple. Apple was just this little

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computer company that made this little computer that nobody except

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high-tech nerds really liked. Everybody else was buying an IBM clone.

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And then all of a sudden, in the space of

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a year, Apple leapfrogged IBM because attitudes changed. And all

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of a sudden, everybody wanted Apple's products. And then Apple

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introduced the iPhone and they said, guess what? We're not

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just a computer company. We're a company that brings technology

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into your hand and makes it easy for you to use.

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And the people at Apple were left looking like the

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people at Kodak. You remember Kodak? Kodak used to be

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the biggest company in the world making film for cameras.

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And then came the digital camera. And Kodak said, digital camera?

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Nobody's going to stop buying film. Can you even buy

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a piece of stock in Kodak anymore? I don't know

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that they're even traded. Are they even alive? I don't know.

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Because the executives had a choice to make and they

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made the wrong choice. They stuck with the past, just

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like IBM stuck with the past and Apple leapfrogged them.

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Now we've got these open AI giants. They don't want

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to be leapfrogged. And so they want to use government

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to slow down the competition. I think President Trump, being

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a businessman, understands. In fact- Being a very competitive businessman

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who grew up in a very competitive market, New York

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real estate, commercial real estate in particular, he understands the

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01:53:48.609 --> 01:53:52.310
use of government to stop your opponents from catching up

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on you in the marketplace. And I think he's on

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to them, and I think they're going to have a

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hard time convincing him in particular that they need guardrails

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from government to slow everybody else down.

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Well, you heard it here first. Bill Pascoe, thank you

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very much as always. TPP's man in Washington, the website, Bill.

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