The Bill Martinez Show 09 29 26

0:00 Are you ready? Yeah. Okay, let's do it. Bill Martinez Live, a program about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and our future. And now, Bill Martinez. Bill Martinez. Hey, we're back with you. Glad you could join us. Bill Martinez here, along with Carl Gallups, the senior pastor of Hickory Hammock Baptist Church, and also the amazing Amazon Top 60 bestselling author and former decorated Florida law enforcement officer. Carl, good morning. Good to have you with us. Good morning, my dear brother and friend, Bill Martinez. It's always an honor to be with you. Always. Well, I always look forward to our conversations because, uh, we get to be vulnerable and raw in such a way to bring a message that's a heavy message, especially right now, but it's also a hopeful message because like anything, you know, a lot of people say, I was mentioning to you before we got on the air is I'm, you know, I have people come up to me and go, Bill, you know, are we being judged right now? And I say, well, I think that's a good question because you're starting to see the signs of And and and so let's interpret those signs. And this is why I was looking forward to having you on, because you're so insightful about it that we can go through and recount because there's nothing new under the sun. We're living in a way, you know, God is the same yesterday, today and forever. OK, and that is singly who we honor here because we you know,

1:32 when we're in trouble, we need to recalibrate. And the way to recalibrate is you you've got to come back to God to recalibrate. Right. Right. Right. Absolutely. Well, listen, let me address what you're saying. I'll give the bad news first, then the good news. The bottom line is the whole world is under judgment and has been since the Garden of Eden. And I know that people will say, well, no, duh. But I'm talking about the United States. Yeah. And we in the United States tend to think that everything about God's word and everything about the world revolves around us. It does not. It does not. We're a young country. I mean, according to all, you know, with all the empires of the world.

2:13 But anyway, the bottom line, so the world is under judgment. Yes. And that judgment day is coming. We are now living in the most prophetic time since the first coming of Jesus Christ. We've done shows on this before. I'll just do a quick little recap of what I'm talking about. Yeah, Israel's back. The Word of God is the only book on the planet that said it would come back 50 times. Now, we're the first generation to see that. Now, we're in a war with Iran, who's been attacking Israel, and the Bible said that nation would be the premier nation that would be tied to Gog and Magog, which are the nations north of it, China, Russia, Turkey, the Stan nations, and they would be coming against Israel in the last days.

2:56 Well, What a coincidence. 2,700 years after those prophecies were given. Watch this. In only one book on the planet. It's not in the Quran. It's not in the Hindu Vedas. It's not in the teachings of Buddha and on and on and on. Nostradamus, nobody. But the word of God, the word of. The living God who does not change said, When you see Israel come back and then when it's finally in the land for a while, meaning decades, peaceful. In other words, they're going on with trade and everything. They've always had wars, just like the United States. But look at the peace we get to live in in the United States, in the United States. So they've had a portion of that as best as it could be in the Middle East.

3:41 But it says, the Bible says, when that happens, Persia, which is Iran, will attack. in conjunction with China and Russia, Gog and Magog. We're the first generation to see all of that collide, and the church in the world and in America is asleep to the fact, by and large. Who's backing Iran right now? Russia and China. It's the axis. That's your point. Exactly. There was an article in Fox News just last week about how strongly that coalition is coming. About two months ago, they already hinted to it and said that Russia and China are reaching out to Iran. Don't worry, we'll supply you oil, we'll supply your missiles, we'll supply your money.

4:25 And then just a few days ago said it's full blown on. Well, That's how world wars are started. I'm not a warmonger. I want peace for me, my family, my children, my grandchildren, my great-grandchildren. But I know the end of the book, and I know where it's all headed. Now, can there be pockets of peace and peace treaties? Yes. And I pray for those pockets during our lifetime. But the bottom line is when you look at those kinds of things, the explosion of technology that's getting ready and already is changing the planet. Daniel said that would happen. Jesus himself said that would happen. And I've preached on this. I can prove it. The book of Revelation says it would happen with technologies that we're already using.

5:08 We're the first generation. Okay. So when I said all that to prove that we're living in the most prophetic times, all these prophecies are bursting forth. In the United States, God has used us and blessed us to protect Israel, to protect the Jewish people after World War II, to end World War I, World War II, all of these different things. He has used us. We're the number one nation of benevolence, the number one nation of exporting the gospel of Jesus Christ, the number one exporter of catastrophe relief, money we give to nations that need it, on and on and on. No other nation ever in history has done these things.

5:51 When we win a war, We don't colonize those countries. In fact, Japan, we, you know. We dropped nuclear bombs and then we rebuilt everything. And now we're one of their. Greatest trading partners and protectors and on and on and on it goes. I'm not trying to say we're perfect. We're not. We are filled with evil, evil, evil. The abortion industry is ripe and alive. The whole transgender thing about we don't know what a boy or girl is. Look at the WNBA right now. going through craziness. States are fighting about violating Title IX. I mean, that's what they're doing. And they're fighting this. They should be able to.

6:31 The last. The last presidential regime opened the borders, just said, come in. Remember tens of thousands coming up from the South America through Mexico on these marches. And Biden was going, yeah, and everybody, all the leftists. No nation can survive that. So the bottom line is the Bible says that one of God's judgments is upon a nation. That turns its back on him. And he was speaking to Israel first. But then he said, but my judgment is your borders will be breached by people of other languages and they will overtake you and you will be destroyed. God said that to his own people who brought the word of God and the prophets of God and the Messiah of God.

7:23 He said, don't turn your back on me. Well, there are a ton of people in the United States who do not turn their back on the Lord. The problem is, is that there are a ton about 50-50 right now that do in all. Manner of ways. And so, you know, I can go down the list of all the atrocities that America is involved in. I'm not making an excuse for us, but I'm saying two things. All the nations are involved in these atrocities one way or the other. And the other thing. Yeah, because let me just insert this real quickly, Carl. And that is, again, you have to understand a holy and righteous God who is just and right. I mean, there are certain things within the design of his creation and this universe that are built in their boundaries, like the law of gravity, things that we don't necessarily see, but they operate. They function in spite of our sin and our fallenness. And God understood that, and it's designed that way. But when we violate those things, a simple thing, like I keep saying on this show, when you violate the law of gravity, you find out it's painful. And so if that's appropriate with the law of gravity, how many other laws are we violating? And like the book of Ecclesiastes says, because the consequence of said sin is not realized immediately, we think that somehow it's okay.

8:48 Yeah, yeah. No, you're right. And the other thing that's a part of this is the hypocritical way that people will blame God when the judgment comes. And that's like if I have a. Nursery, well, a daycare center, and I've got it all fenced in and everything, but I have a gate where you have to come in and out and all that. And we tell the kids, don't ever, ever, ever go to that gate or near that gate. There's a highway. You could get hurt or killed. And it should be locked all the time. Sometimes it's not, you know, et cetera. And we tell the kids and tell the kids and tell the kids and we tell the parents and tell the parents. And then one day, for whatever reason, there's a crack in it. It's open.

9:29 And two or three kids go out and the worst thing happens that could happen. And all of a sudden it's our fault. And it really isn't our fault. We told them and told them and told them and told them. We put the fences up. We put the gates up. And that's what God's doing. And yet he gives us freedom to choose. We're not caged animals and neither are our children, but we have. Freedom to come and go and we can choose. And so when we make the wrong choices, then we step into the highway and the car hits us. Then we say, we want to blame the people that told us not to go out in the street. And that's what so many people in America do. The first thing, even atheists, you know, agnostics, I don't believe in God, I don't believe in God, and something happens. Why is God doing this? This is why I don't serve him.

10:17 He's like, what are you talking about? Are you hearing yourself? But anyway, so yes, America is under judgment in that, number one, the whole world is. Number two, you cannot do the kind of things that America has done flippantly, abortion and transgendering our children and destroying the meaning of marriage. All of these things go to Genesis in the garden. And you can't. Keep doing that willy-nilly without thinking somehow God's not going to judge us. And that's why people are asking that question. Because instinctively, we know that.

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15:30 We're talking with Carl Gallup, the senior pastor of Hickory Hammock Baptist Church in Milton, Florida, best-selling author, top 60 best-selling author, I should say, on Amazon, and former decorated Florida law enforcement officer. Carl, I will say this in terms of, you know, we talk about the prophetic and all these prophecies that have been laid out in the Bible. To date, are you aware of God ever getting any one of those prophecies wrong? Yeah, no, not at all. Let me first go back to what we were talking about and end it like I was getting ready to end it. And that is, I said, I'm going to give you the bad and then the good. So we basically talked about the bad. Yeah, the whole world's under judgment.

16:11 We're under judgment. How could we not be? How could we not be? Secondly, but the good news is God is merciful and gracious to He doesn't wink at our sin. He doesn't wink at the judgment that may just be opened before us. But mercy means he's withholding from us what we deserve. We should have been judged and shut down a long time ago. Look at his mercy he has poured out on this land. We sing this song, God shed your grace on thee. Okay, grace means giving you something you don't deserve. Mercy says he's withholding what you do deserve.

16:52 But he's giving. Look how blessed we are as a. Nation, the most powerful nation, the richest nation, the nation that has the most opportunity, most of the people in the world that want to immigrate to another country. For a hundred years. Number one is the United States. The next five destinations put together doesn't even come close to the number of people that want to come here. Now, you see how broken the world is. We're living in Satan's world. You see how broken the United States culture is. We're to most of the. People of the world that want to immigrate. This is heaven on earth. Exactly.

17:32 That should wake you up because when we look at all the craziness around us and that's as good. As it gets on earth. Yeah, that's it. This is it. That's why Ronald. Reagan said, don't let that light on a hill go out because the world will be in darkness. Not that we are the light of the world, but God's using us. Okay. So that's why I just tell individual believers to Keep your eyes on Jesus. Stay in the word. Study to show yourself approved. Become that ambassador, that witness that God wants us to be. And he will take care of us like Noah living in his day and like Lot living in his day. They were under judgment, but Noah and his family and Lot and his family were protected.

18:15 Now, back to your question. No, I've never seen a prophecy that is in God's Word that has not been fulfilled, except, of course, those that will be fulfilled, like the second coming of Jesus Christ. But because there are 50 prophecies from Deuteronomy to Zechariah about the coming of Israel, and then several prophecies about the exact nations that will attack that Israel, that's all happening. And because there are 300-something prophecies of Golgotha, right down to being killed between two thieves, buried in a rich man's tomb, risen again, gambling for the clothing under his feet, hands and feet pierced. On and on up. That's all in the Old Testament.

18:55 All of them were 1,000 years before Christ, and the youngest were like 700 or 400 years before Christ, two to three times the length of the United States. They have all happened, and history records it, and now more are coming. Here's Israel. Here's the nations. Here's technology going through the roof. Here are these things that the Bible speaks of. The gospel is going all over the world 24-7, trillions of times a day, according to information technology statistics. The gospel has the ability. It's going all over the world because you and I, this right here is going. Right. It's all over the world. Exactly. And we'll get on social media and post it. Then we'll get on social media and put up some scriptures or we'll urge people to look at it. That's just the two of us. There are billions of people who claim to be believers. So all of that was prophesied in the Bible. And so because all of that has come true and is coming true right before our eyes and none of it was ever missed by God's word, then I believe everything it says about his coming again.

19:59 Exactly. I mean, that's the big deal. That's the big explosion of the last of Satan's kingdom is the coming of Jesus Christ and everything being made new. That's on the horizon. I don't set dates, but I know it's getting close because when Israel comes back, the word of God says, and I'm going to paraphrase, that's the ticking clock, the countdown clock. Right. Yeah. You and I have talked about this. I've always maintained. I'm always, you know, I think when I got out of Bible college and God opened my eyes to that reality and looking and saying, you need to focus on Israel. I said, it's as if the hour hand of God's prophetic clock was set when Israel became a nation again.

20:39 And all that's been passing are minutes and seconds. I just see you, they're spinning. And here we are, as you just laid this out, Carl. Again, we're not setting any dates and time, but boy, we're near and very near here. And with that sense and understanding, if you have ears to hear and eyes to see, because the things are lined up in such a way. What else, what next needs to happen before Jesus is there at Armageddon? Right. Well, there are all kinds of isms and schisms within the Christian interpretation of the scriptures. Is it pre-tribulation, mid-tribulation, post-tribulation? I don't even go there. Now, I know what I believe because I know what Jesus said clearly. And it usually infuriates people when I quote that verse because they don't know how to deal with it. They don't know what to say. But that's not really what you're asking. But what you're asking is what has to happen next? Well, so much of what has to happen next is now happening. and that is all centered on Israel and the Middle East.

21:42 Also, it's centered on Turkey. Let me remind you, in the book of Revelation, the seven letters to the seven churches, all seven churches are in what's now Turkey, and they're in kind of a circle. If you will. Not a perfect circle, but they make a circle right in the middle of Turkey. Turkey is kind of the birthplace of Islam, etc. I mean, that was the one of the nations that took this as their major religion. And the Turkic people were not Islamic. That was all invented in the 600s. And so now you've got 49 nations of the world that are totally Islamic. And these are the ones coming after Israel. Oh, my gosh. Wake up, folks. You know, so so those are those are the times we're living in. And all of this is happening. And so the second coming of Jesus is the big deal. What happens next? Well, you know, it's a matter of interpretation to some people, but the bottom line is there's coming a time on this earth when there will be a cabal of leadership that believes they own the world. Of course, Satan's given them that spirit.

22:54 We know that as the lawless one or the antichrist and his cabal. There's a cabal around him. The Bible says that in the Old and New Testament. And what happens with that is all kind of technological wonders. Now, the Bible doesn't say technology. It says, but he calls down fire from the heavens. We're already doing that. I mean, militarily, we do that to a degree of perfection of what the scripture says. If I had more time, I'd talk about it. Also tracking everybody on the planet. You have to if you're going to have everybody take a mark or they can't buy or sell. Well, that means money has to be digitalized. Well, all of that's happening right now. And we have the technology for all of it.

23:34 Most of it's happening. It's just not being pushed into that cabal yet. That's going to happen. Now here's where people argue, yeah, but we'll be out of here. We won't even see that. Well, that's not what Jesus said. It's not what the Bible says, but it doesn't matter. God's going to do what he's going to do, and we're going to be in the air when he says we're going to be in the air. Right, exactly. He's going to bring the flood. He's going to bring the fire from heaven. He's going to bring his wrath, but we have not been appointed to wrath, the Bible says very clearly. 1 Thessalonians chapter 5, you are children of light. that day will not overtake you. You will not be appointed unto God's wrath. You can almost hear him speaking that to Noah, to Lot. And in Luke 17, Jesus said, the coming of the son of man will be just like the days of Noah and just like the days of Lot.

24:28 And so that's my understanding. I know the isms and schisms and they are fervent and they are passionate, but I've been on live TV before. With a host that dragged me into that conversation. I told him, I said, this is your show. I don't want to, I know what you believe. It's not what I believe. Really? I said, yeah. Well, I want to hear it. I said, no, you really don't. And I was trying to be funny, but he kept pushing me and prodding me. So I just very sweetly told him about Luke 17, what Jesus said. Isn't it funny? In John chapter 14, Jesus said, I'm the way, the truth, the life, and no one. Comes to the Father. Okay, that's a black and white statement. No truth. True Bible scholar would say, well, there are many ways you can get to Jesus.

25:12 Yeah, right, exactly. Why? Because of John 14. Well, it's pre-trib, it's mid-trib. Well, where do you get that from? Well, because we read this into it and this into it. How about the black and white statement that Jesus made in Luke 17? Just like the days of Noah, just like the days of Lot. And for the first 300 years of church history, that's all the church preached. It's called historic premillennialism now, a big theological word. They preach what Jesus taught them and what he said there. And so the bottom line is I'm trying to get the church to wake up to the possibility. It's not pre-trip or mid-trip. We need to live in. And Peter writes about it. In 2 Peter, he says, I'm going to paraphrase, if God knew how to take care of Noah in his day, and he means his day of tribulation, philipsis is the Greek word. And he knew how to take care of Lot in his day. How much more will he know how to take care of us when that day comes? So, I mean, the Bible's clear. Those are the kind of things. This war in Israel apparently one day is going to get worse and worse, led by Iran. Then God's going to intervene, according to Ezekiel 37, 38, and 39. He's going to intervene, showing that it's not the nations that's going to save Israel.

26:33 It's him. Exactly. All the world will see it. That apparently is connected to the second coming of Jesus Christ. Again, people have different interpretations, but apparently it is. So we're in the, we're in the midst of watching that culminate right now. Exactly. All in God, all in God's timing. And this is why, you know, some people that want to, you know, be pundits about the military action that's going on in the United States and the firepower and everything else, it will happen when God says it'll happen. Yes. Yes. And, uh, Yeah. Well, look, we got about, we got, we got 50 seconds left. I'm so sorry. Cause we're in here, but I'm going to let you, I'm going to let you summarize it and, and close it out for us.

27:14 Go ahead. Yeah. Our salvation, the world salvation and United States salvation is not coming on air for force one. It's coming in the clouds of heaven and Jesus Christ. It is in Jesus. Fix your eyes on Jesus. Hebrews chapter 12 verses two through four, and you will be under his protection and. Under his blood. Soon and very soon, right, Carl Gallups? Soon and very soon. And I don't know if it's our lifetime or the next one, but it's not going to be long. Here you go. He's a senior pastor of Hickory Hammock Baptist Church in Milton, Florida. Also, Amazon Top 60 bestselling author, former decorated Florida law enforcement officer, Pastor Carl Gallups. Carl, thank you so much, my friend. Take care.

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31:35 Well, we're back with you. Bill Martinez here. Great to have you with us. For more information on the show, you can check it out. BillMartinezLive.com. We've got Troy Anderson joining us, a Pulitzer Prize-nominated investigative journalist, along with Pastor Paul Begley. He's the host of Paul Begley 34 on YouTube. He's also the co-pastor of Freedom Fellowship of the Villages of Lady Lake, Florida, as if he's not busy enough. And he's also a co-author of this great book that we're going to be talking about, Trump vs. The Beast. A World on Fire Needs a Hero. Pastor Begley and Troy, welcome to the show. Good to have you with us. Great to be here, Bill. It really is. Well, Troy, let's talk about the foundation. I mean, you and I have been in constant connection with the various books, and this book comes at a time when there's more questions, and I say questions from from the faithful that are asking, you know, two things. Are these the last of the last days? Is America being judged? And what you've done here with Trump versus the beast is you've captured this and many other questions and laying out a projected timeline, not based on, you know, Pastor Paul's theories. I mean, this is taken right out of the Bible, right?

32:56 Bill, so, you know, Jesus told us to watch for signs of the last days. And we're seeing the convergence of all these different signs. I mean, for the first time in history with artificial intelligence, electronic banking, and the surveillance state, you could have this mark of the beast system. And so the world's in this fast track towards this system. And so the big question, like you mentioned, is are we being judged? My first co-author, Paul McGuire, had a vision on July 4th, 2025, in which the Lord told him, I'm giving America one last chance. So we're releasing Trump versus the beast right before this critical election, these midterm elections, that really could determine the fate of America and the world. If the Democrats retake the House and the Senate, that'll set them up to retake the presidency, potentially in 2028, and then we very well could be on a fast track to this World Economic Forum's Great Reset Plan, the United Nations Agenda 2030. President Trump was just at the U.N., saying we're not going to have a world government. But, you know, I think God has put the ball in our court. And this book lays out what the plans are of the elite, the globalist elite between now and 2030.

34:00 And I think, you know, it's up to us to, you know, be good Christians, be good Christian soldiers, vote, do our civic duty. And that's why we're releasing this book at this time. Paul, our father says that our people, his people perish for lack of knowledge. What you have shared with us is knowledge. And so this is about preparation because we are on God's prophetic line. And what he says, he says, right? Absolutely. And you can't, I always say this, you can't stop prophecy. The only difference we have today than they did in John's day when the vision of the book of Revelation came to him is the technology has now caught up with the prophecy. Things that we saw in the Bible that we said, how in the world is there going to be an image to the beast? How is that image going to speak and make decisions who lives, who dies, and how are they going to have a surveillance of everybody on the earth? Well, now we know that answer through artificial intelligence and through the surveillance system of the flock cameras and everything else. And with the Chinese instituted with communism, and that is the.

35:11 Social credit score. Exactly. We can see how these things are coming to pass. Well, Troy, you and I talked, gosh, how many years ago? And we said that as soon as Israel became a nation again, I mean, God's prophetic line, his timeline started speeding up. I think I shared with you at the time, I said, as if I have seen ever since that happened, it's like the hour hand of God's prophetic clock is set. And what's been passing since then are minutes and seconds, right? Yeah, I think the first interview we did was about my first book, The Babylon Code, a decade ago. I just remember that Dr. Tim LaHaye, when I interviewed him, of course, he wrote the Left Behind series that sold like, you know, 60 to 80 million copies. And he said the rebirth of Israel in 1948 has got super sign of the end times. And so, you know, Hal Lindsey, you know, in the late great planet Earth, you know, talked about the terminal generation, the last generation. So could we be in that time frame and could we be at the tail end of that now? You know, we've seen so many different processes come to pass. You know, Bible scholars tell me about 2,000 of the Bible's 2,500 prophecies have been fulfilled in exacting detail. And so the ones that are left, you know, have to do with the tribulation. And so we very well could be on the very edge of the events of the book of Revelation.

36:30 So it's time to wake up, you know, put on the full armor of God. You know, God will take us through whatever is happening, but it's coming on us to do our part. Yeah. You know, Paul, as you know, in the Old Testament, I mean, time and again, when Israel was being judged, it came down to those who stayed connected with God, fared well. In the midst of any, you know, tribulation, any kind of downturn, God again, time and again, demonstrated his faithfulness to his chosen people. And here we are, I believe, in the modern era. We are going to be able to witness that firsthand, don't you think?

37:10 Oh, yes. And when you take a look at all of the attacks that Israel's come under now, with the Iranians, the Houthi rebels out of Yemen, Hezbollah out of southern Lebanon, of course, the Hamas and the Islamic Jihad that came out of Gaza, and even the radical groups that are in Syria and what have you in Iraq, Israel's completely surrounded by enemies. It was prophesied in the Bible, in Psalms 83, that there would be confederacy, you know, this, you know, Bill, this conglomerate of nations that would say, we want to wipe Israel off the face of the map, never to be remembered again. Well, those same words are being spoken this very week at the United Nations as we speak.

37:52 They're doing it. And so, The prophecy of the Old Testament, as well as prophecies of the New Testament, point toward Israel playing a key role in the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ. Yeah, you know, Troy, it's as if Israel is this magnet, you know, for the second coming of Jesus. I mean, they are, they're just there, outstanding as a light that the anti-Christians... And, you know, the Muslims want to blow out, as Paul just said, with Psalm 83. I mean, their heads are exploding because of Israel. They can't handle this.

38:34 And of course, they've been saying, you know, the verses of Psalm 83 for thousands of years, right? Yeah, what you have to understand about God's prophetic plan is that he's used the Jewish people, the Israelites, the ancient Hebrews, you know, to give us the Bible, to give us the Messiah. And it all has to, the Israel is the center of Bible prophecy. It all culminates in the tribulation with the, you know, I think it talks about about a third of the Jews will come to believe that Jesus is the Messiah by the time the second coming occurs. And so this is all part of God's prophetic plan. Of course, he brought in the Gentiles and we can become, you know, we can ask God to forgive us of our sins and become Christians and go to heaven. But the center of Bible prophecy is Israel. That's what the Bible is all about. And so that's why we see President Trump pushing back, not against the just globalism, but he's also protecting Israel with Operation Epic Fury. He protected Israel from a potential nuclear attack by Iran. and, you know, Abraham Accords and all these different things he's done. You know, God, you know, whether he knows it or not, is using them to protect Israel. And that's, you know, the epicenter of Bible prophecy.

39:39 Exactly. Pastor Begley, why do you say that the midterms, these midterms that are coming up are so vitally. Well, America is on the brink of making a decision which way we're going to go. We have this movement, this communist, super socialist movement that is creating this big tent theory that somehow all these folks are going to get along. And while they're coming along with a destructive anti-American agenda, Donald Trump and, of course, the Republican Party They've been standing on the platform of God, you know, God, family and freedom. And so that's being challenged. The midterms are huge because if the Democrats take control of the House or the Senate or both, it's going to make a very difficult ride for President Trump's last two years.

40:31 And even to the point that if they take both the House and the Senate, I would not be shocked if they didn't try to go ahead and not only impeach President Trump, but convict him in the Senate and remove him from office. So this is big. But it's also America's role as leaders of the world. We have set a new course, a new agenda for the world to follow. Many nations are now embracing conservative views and Christian views, and we don't want that momentum to shift. So the midterms are gigantic. And so I highly recommend everyone listening out there, be sure you pray, be sure you vote, because it is critical.

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45:52 People of faith were targeted Catholics. I mean, the way the government was weaponized against people of faith. I mean, you're thinking what in America from a president, from a guy who supposedly is a Catholic himself. I mean, how could this be? But it, it would appear that again, in terms of the biblical prophetic timeline that we're looking at is that, you know, that brings up another question. is when you look at the final chapters of the book of Revelations, you're not seeing a strong indication of America's presence, are you? Yeah, Bill, I think you've hit on something, is that during the Biden administration, during the COVID pandemic, America for the first time got this glimpse of what a totalitarian government could be like, what the end times government of the Antichrist could be like. And so you know, the book of Revelation talks about this Antichrist figure.

46:41 J.D. Vance was just, you know, talking a week and a half ago, could the Antichrist already be walking among us? And so we're seeing all the signs of the world being prepared for this Messiah figure that would, you know, supposedly bring peace and safety, but the Bible tells us would ultimately bring massive destruction. Over two-thirds of the world's population will die during the tribulation period. And so could we be on the verge of this? And so like Pastor Bailey said, If these midterm elections are critical, if, you know, Democrats retake the House and Senate, sets them up possibly to win the presidency in 2028 with a socialist, democratic socialist, communist kind of president possibly, which is what the globalists want. They want a world system sort of. Like China, you know, which is essentially a return to the old pharaoh, you know, Caesar system where, you know, that they tell us you own nothing and you'll be happy.

47:28 That was, that was the UN video, you know, so they're, they're not being a secret about that. They have world government summits. Uh, the United Nations is connected to what's called Lucius trust used to be called the Lucifer publishing company. And Alice Bailey wrote some books in the 1980s called the hierarchy in which she said by 2025, the world government will be coming online. So we're, we're right in the middle of their plan right now. And so this is a critical time in prophetic history. Yeah, exactly. Cause, uh, You know, Klaus Schwab said, what, we had to 2030 was when the realization of their vision would be extended. Pastor Paul, what do you say, you know, when people ask you about where's America in Bible prophecy?

48:11 Yeah, you know, it's a great question. I look at a couple of different areas. I look in Daniel. It talks about these four end time kingdoms. One is a bear. One's a lion. One's a leopard. and one is the mighty beast. And when you look at that, you see that the lion, the bear, and the leopard, but the lion has a pair of eagle's wings on its back. And those eagle's wings break off of the lion and stand on its own two feet as a man or a nation. I believe that's the United States of America. In the end times, breaking away from Great Britain, you still have Germany, you still have Russia. Now, if you go to Revelation 13, you see the picture of the beast.

48:54 The beast has feet like a bear. It has a body like a leopard. It has a face like a lion, but there's no eagle wings. And so you ask yourself, well, where's the eagle wings? Where did that country go? Well, it's the chapter before. It says that when Israel is under a siege and the enemy's coming against the woman who's going to give birth to the man child, it's a pair of eagle's wings that fly over and protect her. I believe we see America protected. Protecting Israel in the end days or in this end time period. And that's exactly what's happening right now. Of 197 nations that are gathered at the UN right now this week, only the United States of America is fully in Israel's camp. We are the eagle's wings that fly.

49:40 in the last days. Paul, thank you for sharing that. I got to tell you, that gives a lot of people encouragement, because what we've heard repeatedly is that America is missing. It's MIA. But it's clear you're bringing some revelation to bear here that demonstrates that God's not finished with America. No, absolutely. And I'll tell you, Bill, because we have an important role, not only to protect Israel in the last days, which is Jerusalem is where Christ is going to return. He's not coming to Tokyo. He's not going to New York City. He's not going to be in Mecca. He's coming to Jerusalem. But America also leads the world in evangelism, in sharing the gospel around the world. If we look at all the Catholic, tremendous evangelical work that's been going on and the Catholics evangelizing over the centuries, I mean, there's no question in my mind America has.

50:34 To lead the way. We've got to be here to lead the way. That's right. I believe America will still be standing, just like the vision of George Washington. He saw the wars, and he saw the conflict. He's seen the division, but at the end, he saw all glory still in the air and one nation under God. Well, Troy, so many people of faith are praying for revival, repentance. and you and I have discussed this. I think the first time we met at the restaurant there in Newport beach, you know, we talked and it was interesting that both you and I had this, this vision of a Nineveh moment. We talked about it. In fact, I couldn't believe how, you know, connected you, you and I were on that vision.

51:20 And I believe that, um, We are on the brink of that Nineveh moment, just like in Nineveh, when the prophet came with a message to the leadership, the leadership of that country. And they so responded to it that everybody put on sackcloth and they said, that's not enough. Put it on the animals even, you know, and let's demonstrate to God that we're really serious about repenting. And I believe what will happen during this era is that this You know, you could say, I mean, we're always thinking about the greatest, maybe the last great revival before the second coming of Jesus. And maybe we're participating in that.

52:00 What do you think? Yeah, Bill, I mean, that was quite remarkable to have a dinner with you in Newport Beach. I think it was like 2018 or something. And I think the Trumpocalypse, my second book, just come out. And of course, you know, I did an interview with Billy Graham back in 2013 on the possibility of an end times revival. And he told that story of Jonah. It's the only example in the Bible. of God relenting of judging a nation he was intending to judge because they repented. And so, you know, we call for that National Day of Repentance. Huge miracle. The return took place in September 2020. Quarter billion people showed up at the National Mall. 42 billion people watched that. And President Trump flew over Marine One and issued that proclamation for a day of prayer and return. The first president to do that since Abraham Lincoln. Then, you know, flash forward to April 2024. Pastor Bailey and I released Revelation 9-11. And he had that great North American eclipse there.

52:50 And it went through all these towns called Nineveh. And so the story for Charisma is this our Nineveh moment, our chance to turn back to God. Pastor Bailey and I, we called for 40 days of prayer, fasting, repentance before the election. Then Trump won again. Nobody thought he could win again. And now this revival is breaking out like Billy Graham for saw among young people. It's very counterintuitive, but that's what's happening, especially since Charlie Kirk's assassination. So Pastor Bailey talks about the great harvest revival. I think we're at the beginning of it. And so there is hope. Maybe America is, you know, survives. If we protect Israel, we continue to spread the gospel throughout this whole time period. I hope that's the case, you know. So that's the message of Trump versus Beasley. God's put the ball in our court. It's our nano moment. It's the most exciting time to be a Christian. We can share the gospel and do everything Jesus told us to do, you know, become a soldier in God's army.

53:38 Pastor Paul, what Troy is saying is that with God, there's always hope, right? Absolutely. I mean, this is really, I mean, in a lot of ways, it's so cool because people of faith, we know the last shot. We know how this is going to work out, right? So fret none about the temporal. What we need to be focused on is the eternal and realizing the eternal is coming at us at Mach 5 speed. And I hear, you know, Jesus saying, you know, are you ready? Are you ready for me? I mean, this is so important. It is the most important question of all, and that is, are you ready? And he said, watch and pray. For an hour you think not the Son of Man will come. He told us to be ready for the Lord's return, and he told us to watch and pray.

54:28 He did say watch. It's very significant, because I think a lot of folks are just going through life. They're not looking ahead. They're not watching to see what the prophetic events are that are happening, and they're certainly not praying. So it's a combination. You watch, you get vision, you get clarity, and my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. And also without a vision, the people will perish. So it's important that we, as leaders of faith in Jesus Christ, that we do our very best to point people to the cross and say, look, he's coming back just like he said. Every one of his prophecies of the Old Testament and New are coming to pass just like he said.

55:08 And believe me, he will return. Yeah, Troy, you and I have also talked about this. You know, God and Jesus are, you know, when it comes to prophecy, they're batting a thousand percent. And we've got, what, about a third more of prophecy to be realized. So as I pose to people, I say, what do you think the chances are that he's going to get that part right too, huh? Well, I mean, this thing about all those prophecies of Jesus' first coming were fulfilled in exacting detail. I mean, the Old Testament's full of prophecies about, you know, Jesus being born in Jerusalem and you know, being crucified, suffering, you know, detail after detail.

55:51 And so it just stands to reason if all those prophecies of Jesus' first coming came true in such exacting detail, all the prophecies of the second coming, which the Bible has far more prophecies about that, are going to come true too. And so this is the one reason I've been fascinated with prophecy since I was 11 years old. It is the greatest proof that the Bible is real. Because who else? There's no other religious book in history that has any kind of record, even remotely, you know, approaching the accuracy of the Bible. And so this is one of the greatest proofs that the Bible is true. And now archaeology is now coming out. All kinds of archaeological finds are discovering the Bible is telling us exactly what's happen in the past and what's going to happen in the future. So it's an exciting time to be a believer.

56:37 Yeah, without a doubt. Well, our thanks to Troy Anderson and also to Pastor Paul Begley. Their brand new book, Trump versus the Beast, the Ten Kings Prophecy, Bible Revelation of Coming Final Days. Pastor Paul, I'm going to let you have the last word and summarize it and encourage everybody to make sure this is a book they must have and share with their friends and family, right? It really is. And one of the keys to the book is that we talk about the 10 kings of revelation that are made kings one hour with the beast. And what we did is we looked at the 10 major categories in the world right now, whether it be big tech, big media, big pharma, big food, big bank, 10 military industrial complex.

57:20 And we said, if you think about it, if the beast is going to choose 10 leaders to help him, is he just going to pick some prime minister somewhere or some foreign minister over here, or is he going to pick the leaders of the major that make the difference in the world? And so we came at it from that perspective that, and if you look at, there are 10 categories that would fit this bill that I'm telling you right now, that it looks like it's coming closer. So I'm going to say to everyone out there, please get a copy of the book and read and learn and understand what the events happening right now in front of your very eyes and the soon coming of Jesus Christ. Watch and pray. Watch and pray. We call ourselves ASAP Travel for one reason. We can help you book a ticket ASAP. For those of you that don't know, that means as soon as possible. That means no wait time. You get through right away. No searching online. Our specialty is the lowest available fares on the big name airlines. You know them. We can't tell you their names. You can fly domestically or internationally and save more money than you could if you call the airlines directly. Our proprietary software goes underneath the hood of the major airline booking systems and finds you the best rates available. So if you're ready to make your travel plans right now, business or vacation travel, we have all the major airlines always at great rates. Call ASAP Trips and we'll have your ticket in your inbox in 15 minutes.

58:44 Call this number now. 800-506-4885. 800-506-4885. 800-506-4885. That's 800-506-4885. Are you ready? Yeah. Okay, let's do it. Neil Martinez Live, a program about current events, our culture, our values, our politics. And our future. And now, Bill Martinez. Six minutes after the top of the hour. Good morning, America. Bill Martinez here with George Barna. Dr. George, how are you? Doing well. Good to see you, Bill. If things calm down there in the neighborhood after all the festivities, the memorial. I mean, when was the last time you saw so many people go to a church service that lasted over four hours, George?

59:36 Yeah. Yeah. And it wasn't a black congregation. So, you know, I recently got back from Africa. That's fairly common over there, but it's normal here. So, yeah, that's that was a heck of a day. Yeah, without a doubt. And for some people, you know, they were they were in line. They were queued up at two o'clock in the morning, you know, to make sure that they got a seat. And they turned away thousands because there just wasn't enough room at the end. But, you know, it's I think we're still looking to hear the numbers of actual viewers they had. But no doubt when you think about, you know, God said there's going to be that time when the gospel goes out to all the ends of the earth. I think we got pretty close.

1:00:20 Here, George. And, you know, the thing that I was thinking about last week was why would the Lord take Charlie now or allow him to be taken? Because his ministry was growing. It was flourishing. It was reaching more and more people. It's like, why would you take somebody then? And I don't know if this is right, but it occurred to me, well, the Lord knows all. He can see all. And so it must mean that he realized that By Charlie being murdered at that time, this time, it would have a greater impact than all the coming 40 years or so of Charlie's ministry combined. And now his wife and others will be able to pick up that baton and keep running the race for him. But yeah, I mean, I just think we've been talking about renewal and revival for so many years. And it's always... kind of petered out. I think this may be a different situation because of the nature of the dynamics of who was taken, how he was taken, and how the churches responded.

1:01:26 And you bring up something here, and that is that sometimes people underestimate the price of revival. And you and I talked about this before, is that people are quick to talk about revival and go, are you ready for this? I mean, you're talking, hey, we got to put it all down the line and understand that we've all fallen short of the glory of God. What does that mean? What does it mean to be sinful? Well, when you come face to face with the glory of God, then you're like Isaiah. God, I'm toast, right? Yeah. And last week, I wrote an article about all of this, saying, man, we've been praying and waiting for revival.

1:02:09 And now we've got a lot of people interested, but it could be just like September 11th. That's what I'm afraid of. Exactly. I'm glad you brought that up. Go ahead. Yeah, because when we did the research back then, 2001, we were looking at what happened right after the attacks. Churches were flooded. They couldn't hold all the people. There was such fear and anxiety and doubt and questioning and hope and all kinds of emotions. And people were coming there to say, okay, what do I make of all this? And after six weeks, started at about the four-week mark, started to tail off. And after six weeks, we were back at pre-attack levels. And right after that, we were actually a little bit lower. So my fear here is that we did not learn the lesson about what it takes to actually have revival, which is that Once we pique people's interest and the Holy Spirit does something to get people interested on coming on board, it's not just, well, great, we'll open up the doors and do business as usual.

1:03:09 There's got to be a whole different approach. The church in America for the last at least 40 years that I've been researching it really has not been about making disciples. And I think that's why when we've had these moments in time where the Holy Spirit stirs something and people say, yeah, help me, Lord. You know, who are you? Where are you? What are you? What are you doing? We're not there to come alongside these people and guide them through the process, much like Philip did with the Ethiopian eunuch. I mean, there's got to be somebody there to explain it to them. That's what the eunuch was saying. Who would explain this to me? And so Philip went on the ride with them. That's what we've got to do. We've got to get on the ride with them and accompany them through this process and of understanding who God is, who Jesus was, why he died, what our sin means, what salvation is about, what a disciple is, what that life looks like, what it takes to maintain that over time, what the community of believers is about. I mean, there's so many things that have to be unpacked. It's not just enough to have them come in, say the prayer, and walk out the back door and say, job well done. It's not a job well done. We've probably done those people a greater disservice Because at that point, they think they got all the goods. Why wouldn't the Christians have told me everything, shown me everything, delivered everything that I needed at that moment in time? Why would they leave me a half-baked spiritual being and feel like they did the job and

1:04:42 everything's fine? So that's my big fear for this moment in time for the church here. I share that with you, and we've been talking about it on our show as well, because I've put it in the context of branding. You know, what's the brand of your church? Is it consistent with a biblical worldview that you and I've been talking about? What, George, ever since you and I met, I mean, you know, this is like 15, 17 years now. And we've been beating this drum. And I just see that just as Charlie saw that the whole process and. And everything involved with a person's life made in the image of God and the higher calling for each one of us was freedom.

1:05:25 That is God guaranteed. But away from God, you lose the guarantee. The warranty expires, right? Yeah, absolutely. But how many churches would you hear that in? I mean, think about the COVID era where churches were not only willing to close, but But then when they opened up, there really wasn't any discussion about what freedom means, what freedom takes, you know, what our responsibility is in that process, why God wants us to be free, what it looks like. So, I mean, those weren't the conversations that were taking place. I'm privileged to go to the church where Rob McCoy was pastor. He was the guy that opened up the memorial service yesterday. And Charlie, you know, called Rob his pastor and would come and speak at our church sometimes. But, you know, I mean, Rob would talk about that all the time because he understood this is the nature of the times. You have to understand the times and know what to do.

1:06:22 Like the Brothers Issachar. Exactly. Absolutely. Yes. And but there were very few churches like that. There were some and God bless them. And, you know, they exploded. They did great because people were hearing something that wasn't tickling their ears. it was challenging their souls. And that's what we need now is pastors who are going to stand there and challenge us to say, you know, it's not my job as the pastor to bring these people in and to do all the work of, you know, justification and sanctification in their lives. It's us as a community. That's why we're a community. We do this together. And so anyone who's a disciple, wow, this is an exciting time. You know, I estimate based on our research, only 3% of adults in America are fit the criteria Jesus gave us for being disciples. That 3% now is the hinge point for the future of America. If we actually serve the kingdom of God appropriately during this point in time, America will survive. America will thrive. If we don't, America's in trouble.

1:07:28 Well, we've been in trouble for a long time. And, you know, we're down to that conversation between Abraham and the spirit of God in saving, you know, is there a possibility to save Sodom and Gomorrah? You know, how about if you find 50, if you find 40, if you find, you know, all the way down to five, right? And we're, the numbers are getting less and less by God's grace and mercy. You know, we've been given an opportunity and pray that we don't waste it. I mean, you know, the prophets that came to the children of Israel and, What did they do to the profits? And, you know, as we know quite clearly. Anyway, we've got to go to a quick break. We've got more from Dr.

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1:12:51 We're back with you 19 minutes after the top of the hour. Bill Martinez here with the one and only George Barna, the director of research at Arizona Christian University's Cultural Research Center and the author of Raising Spiritual Champions. George, you know, you touched on something that's just so important here, and that is that this is Jesus's church first. Right. Second, he sent the Holy Spirit to empower the growth and maintain the spiritual dynamic of the church. if I'm hearing you correctly, this is my takeaway. Somebody say, okay, you talk to George, what do you say? This is my takeaway from what I'm hearing is that the churches more than ever have got to seek the Holy Spirit.

1:13:34 This is a movement of God. You've got to get in tune. I see guitars in the background. You know, we got to tune up. We got to tune up to the, you know, to the Holy Spirit. Where are you going, Lord? Not my will, your will be done. That's what Charlie prayed. Yeah, and I think the challenge that we've had for the last four decades, again, that's as long as I've been measuring it, but during that point of time, we've been trying to do it our way. And essentially our way is, you know what, we can market people into the kingdom of God. And so we're going to figure out what their felt needs are, and we're going to pander to their felt needs, as opposed to recognizing, no, let's look at it from God's point of view. We're sinners in need of a Savior. We are weak people in need of the strength of God. And so he'll send the Holy Spirit. We are hopeless without Jesus. And that's a message that doesn't flummet. You know, recently I wrote an article. I was alluding to what I thought was a huge eye-opening study that Pew did about six or seven years ago. And they found that they did a national sampling of sermons that were preached across the country found that only 3% of sermons mentioned sin during the course of those sermons. Wow. Now, when you've got 97 out of 100 spiritual outposts in America that refuse

1:15:07 to diagnose the primary disease that's killing every one of us, sin, and instead want to talk about things that make us happy, make us want to come back, Make us do all the things that are what churches tend to look for and count as opposed to no, no, no, no, no. Let's tell the truth and let's believe that God's in control enough that he'll deal with the consequences of telling the truth. That's ultimately what we want, what we need. We're not doing that. I'm praying that this is a period of time now where we're going to look at how Charlie did business for the kingdom. You know, and he went out there and he told the truth. And often it wasn't popular. He paid for that with his life.

1:15:51 Are we willing to do that? We've got to be willing to say yes. Yes. We may not be assassinated like he was because we don't have the platform, he asked. But we're going to be persecuted. We may lose our jobs. We may lose friends. You know, I've lost family members. I'm sure you have. All kinds of things happen. And so we've got to be willing to say, but that's okay. I did that in the service of my Lord. And he's going to take care of me. He's going to make it well with my soul. And that's what I want. That's the ultimate job here. Why do we misunderstand sin so much? Well, you know, it's interesting. We've got these two new reports out because we do the worldview research every year. And one of the things that we were discovering is that people don't take sin seriously. So we wanted to know why. And what we found is that there are a lot of things that people misunderstand. You know, one is that they don't think that humans have a corrupt heart.

1:16:47 They believe, a minority of people believe that human beings have a corrupt or wicked heart as the scripture very clearly states. Instead, what we've got is more than seven out of 10 people who say human beings are basically good, good at heart. And that's why we have this thing in our culture where we say we can look inward. We can turn to ourselves and we can figure this out. We don't really need any help. We've got it. We've got it within us. to deal with this. And then we've also got this thing where we don't understand sin as rebellion. We're willing to talk about, you know, sin may not be good, but we don't believe it's a life-changing experience. I mean, think about the fact that people would say, well, sin's not that big a deal. It won't change your life. You know, maybe you could have done something better, something, you know, that would be more advanced, but it's not going to change you. It absolutely is going to change you. It's going to destroy your life.

1:17:52 And this is what people need to be hearing during this period of time. Recognize, I'm not saying this to diminish you or to discourage you. The encouraging thing is, but there's a great way around this life-changing reality of who we are and what we do. And that's what Jesus Christ did for us on the cross. He's the only one that can save us from this internal corruption. And we got a nation where two out of three people are saying, by the way, you know, when you talk about sin, it makes me feel guilty. And that guilt is worse than the sin. people are thinking that the feelings that sin produces, it's just like when you touch a stove and you jump back because it hurts.

1:18:34 God implanted that feeling of pain in us so that we would know something's wrong. And it's the same way with sin. That's what that guilt does. It makes us realize, oh man, I offended God. I broke his heart. And that should break my heart. If I claim that I love him, I want to serve him, that's got to, it's just got to, you know, knock me over, say what a fool I am. Lord, please take over. Save me. Do what you need to in me. Holy Spirit, I'm yours. But we're not hearing that enough in America. You know, we've become so consumeristic and nihilistic. I mean, just go down all the isms. I mean, we've embraced that as we have, you know, listened to the voice of the evil one, if God really said. I mean, God laid out a plan. This is his domain, his dominion.

1:19:33 It's all set up, perfectly ordered, and we messed it up. And we have been trying to justify it ever since then, as opposed to, you know, being like Isaiah and having the moment, or even, you know, the children of Nineveh, who, when they're confronted with the truth of God, are going, oy vey. Yeah. You know, or they were a bunch of Gentiles, so they probably didn't say oy vey. But regardless, you know, they got it, right? And they're putting sackcloth on themselves and they're going, Hey, even the animals go, we, we, we're not going to miss anything here. Right. And maybe George, maybe if we could get to that sackcloth moment, so to speak, that God would open our eyes in such a way that we could really see sin for how it hurts the father's heart.

1:20:29 And just even the phrase you use there, Bill, the father, You know, I mean, this is something else we're finding that so few people, when they think about who they are, they think about the nature of their life. They think about their faith. When they think about God, they think about, you know, the big guy, the man upstairs. They don't think about, he's my father. You know, he loves me. He cares about me. He'll do everything he can to save me. And that's why he came down here and took on my sins. That's my father willing to suffer for me so that I can live with him forever because he loves me. We don't get that picture. And I think it's so critically important for us to recognize that.

1:21:17 Well, it's important that we're having this conversation today. Significant that you address this topic right now because that is step one in any kind of revival is we have to acknowledge that we all have sinned. We're all sinners. And we need a holy God to save us because there's nobody else, George. It's all we've got. But the beauty of that is it's all we need. I love that. That's all we got and it's all we need. Yes. Yeah. So, I mean, if we can just embrace that and be thankful for that, so thankful that we're willing to repent, which means turn around, you know, change what we're doing, go in a different direction. If we'd be willing to do that, man, it would be so different.

1:22:11 Well, you talk about a revival that could be beyond anything that this earth has ever experienced, George Barna. Wow. May it be the Father's will that it would happen at this time. And Charlie was a friend, and I'm going to miss him. Millions of people are going to miss him because of what he brought to the table. But what he brought to the table isn't going away because what he brought to the table was the truth of the scriptures, the love of God, the forgiveness of Christ, and the hope of eternity. And he may have talked about it in a political context. He might have talked about it in a social context, in a family context, an educational context.

1:22:53 But the basis of his message was recognize you're a sinner, ask for God's forgiveness, accept it, and run with it. And the truth does exist. Yeah. And how ironic it is that he had to go to universities and colleges all over the country, which is supposed to be places that teach us the truth. At our university, we're certainly trying to do that, but we hear all the time how unique that is, well, how sad that is. He's the director of research at Arizona Christian University's Cultural Research Center, author of Raising Spiritual Champions, Dr. George Barnett. Thank you, George. Take care. God bless you, my friend. You too, Bill. Thanks.

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1:27:09 Hey, good morning. Welcome back. Glad you could join us. Bill Martinez here. And we got Rachel Deichman going to be joining us in just a moment. She's got recipes ready to go. She's a registered. Dietitian and Crohn's and colitis foundation advisor because, you know, for millions of Americans, digestive issues or an unpredictable gut isn't an occasional inconvenience. The daily balancing act around what to eat and when an estimated 60 to 70 million people Americans are suffering from gastrointestinal diseases that can disrupt everyday life. And within that number, nearly one in 100 of Americans live with Crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis. Lifelong chronic illnesses collectively known as inflammatory bowel disease is touching millions of Americans. Rachel, welcome to the show. Good to have you with us.

1:27:59 Thank you so much for having me. Great to be here. Well, as I mentioned, Rachel is a registered dietitian, and she's got all the answers to the questions that you have that are bothering your gut. And she's got showcase recipes from the Foundation's Gut-Friendly Recipes Collection. So we're going to get into all of it. So stay with us here. And also, I'm looking forward, Rachel, I understand you've got an incredible orange mango strawberry smoothie to share with us. Just a little bit of a tease here before we get into it. some more of the questions, right? Sounds great. Yes, we do. We have a lot of great recipes here. Well, first of all, let's talk about Crohn's disease and ulcerative colitis. What is it?

1:28:42 Yes. So as you mentioned, Crohn's disease and ulcerative colitis impact one in 100 Americans, and they are chronic lifelong inflammatory conditions that cause inflammation in the digestive tract. And so for a lot of these patients, one of the biggest questions they have is, what should I eat? What can I eat? And that is exactly why the Crohn's and Colitis Foundation created gut-friendly recipes with over 500 dietician-approved recipes designed specifically for people with Crohn's disease, ulcerative colitis, as well as other digestive issues. Yeah. You know, Rachel, before you came up with this, I mean, here, people, it was trial and error. You found out what you're could eat and what you couldn't eat. And when you found out what you couldn't eat, it was a painful experience and you're going, there's got to be a better way, right?

1:29:35 Exactly. It can be really, really challenging and it can be very stressful too, to figure out what you can and cannot tolerate. Well, how does diet play a role for people managing IBD or another digestive issue? Yes. So for people with IBD, as well as the millions of others living with other digestive conditions, like IBS, gastritis, reflux, diet can really help to manage symptoms. So the right foods can actually help to minimize irritation when the gut is inflamed. And then also diet can help to keep the gut environment healthy and inflammation levels low to support long lasting remission, no matter which condition you're managing.

1:30:16 Well, as you say, we're trying to find that balance in our gut, right? And so that we can handle different foods and our body can operate optimally all things considered. So how do we do that? Yeah, so definitely it can be a little bit of a balancing act, but gut friendly recipes, the recipes are really built around what really works for people with these conditions. So for example, things like soft lean proteins to provide the building blocks that your body needs to heal and repair the gut. Also vegetables prepared in ways that are nice and soft. So they kind of glide right through the gut. versus rubbing up against those sores or that irritated gut tissue. And then also healthy fats, fruits you can blend into smoothies so that they're a lot easier to break down and gentle greens and starches. So ultimately really taking the guesswork and the stress out of what to eat and turning it into really sustainable, practical, flavorful meals that are not only appropriate just for people with gut issues, but really the entire family.

1:31:22 Right, exactly. You know, you're such a blessing. You know, the information that you're bringing for people that suffer from Crohn's disease and other, you know, other issues, other gut issues. So let's talk about the recipes that you have with us today. And why did you choose these recipes? Yes. So today I have four gut friendly recipes here, and they each really show how small changes can make a big difference in digestibility. So first up is that smoothie. So the orange, mango and strawberry smoothie. And as I mentioned, fruits, when they're blended into a smoothie, it helps to break down the fiber. So it's a lot easier on the gut, less likely to cause friction and mechanical irritation to that gut lining when it's inflamed. We also have an omelet here with basil and tomatoes. And eggs are such a great soft protein. The tomatoes are cooked so that they are nice and gentle on the gut compared to raw.

1:32:18 We also have a chicken pita here with lean chicken breast and finely chopped vegetables. which are generally better tolerated than something like a big raw salad, for example. And then last but not least, we have a grilled salmon with salsa verde. And salmon in particular is really rich in omega-3 fatty acids, which are very anti-inflammatory, really great for the gut. So as you can see, these recipes here really show that you don't have to give up flavor to eat in a gut-friendly way. It's not just plain chicken and boiled rice. It's really tasty meals that everyone can enjoy. Yeah, we love that because when it gets down just to boiled rice and rather boring, you know, food isn't fun anymore, but it still can be fun, right?

1:33:02 Exactly, exactly. And I always like to focus on what people can eat versus what we're taking away. And that's exactly why I love gut-friendly recipes because it's really focusing on meal ideas versus just a long list of foods that people should avoid. And these look pretty good. I've got options here. So it's not all bad news here, Rachel Dyckman. Thank you so much. Rachel, by the way, is New York City based, a registered dietitian, nutritionist and a member of the Crohn's and Colitis Foundation's National Scientific Advisory Committee. And we're grateful that she's joined us to help us understand and how to live with this. Because, of course, you know, like we mentioned, number one question, people who are dealing with this, they ask, what can I eat?

1:33:44 Right. Exactly. Yes. That's one of the biggest questions and one of the biggest daily struggles of people living with these conditions. So, and this is why gut-friendly recipes help answer that in a very practical sort of way, right? Exactly. Exactly. It really gives people ideas, inspiration, and it's great because you can also filter for different restrictions you may have, whether you are gluten-free, dairy-free, or following a specific medical therapeutic diet. You can filter for those things and find recipes that will be appropriate for you and your specific individual dietary needs. And the thing that's so beautiful about this, Rachel, is you've done all the work and you're giving them a leg up on being still a little bit adventurous. As we said, eating should be fun. It doesn't have to be boring. So we can still have good fun with it, but you've taken the guesswork out of it. And so the chances of them having a positive experience, food experience, is very much in their favor. And then they can build off of that, right?

1:34:53 Exactly, exactly. And I always like to emphasize that food is so much more than just what it is. It's really connection. It is a social experience. It's enjoyment. And for a lot of people with these GI conditions, they feel like that enjoyment is taken away So the whole goal here is to really give back that enjoyment, allow them to eat flavorful, delicious foods without the irritation, without all those GI symptoms. And it really shows how you can make simple modifications to recipes to really make them work for the entire family. Now, how about, you know, you mentioned, you know, the social aspect of this and you're exactly, I'm glad you brought this up because people who deal with this, I mean, sometimes they can be socially isolated. They just don't want to go out to a restaurant or you know, deal with this stuff because of what the payoff is and generally hasn't been very positive. So there's a smart way to be able to go to a restaurant and choose the right kind of food so that you're doing things that are gut friendly, right?

1:35:52 Exactly, exactly. Kind of focusing on principles such as, you know, eating smaller, more frequent meals if you're having active symptoms can be very helpful. Focusing on texture modification. So soft, lean proteins, vegetables that are cooked, things that are peeled that don't have the skin on them, which can cause, you know, some irritation, smaller portions of fat eaten within one sitting. So nothing too fried and overly greasy. All of these things can be very helpful. Also limiting really spicy spices like, you know, hot sauce and cayenne pepper and pepper flakes and going more for herbs and, you know, gentle seasonings that can be also very helpful and kind of sticking to similar principles. can be great to just keep in mind when you are eating out.

1:36:38 Well, nearly 60 million Americans, they're dealing with digestive issues. And Rachel Dyckman has been with us, a registered dietitian and Crohn's and colitis foundation advisor. And she's offered some great recipes and there's more recipes to discover too, right? And where can they go? Yes. So for more information and free recipes, you can go to gutfriendlyrecipes.org, which is on the Crohn's and colitis foundation's websites. How would you like to save money on nearly all your prescription drugs? We've set up a special toll-free number for the RxOutreach program. They're a nonprofit company whose mission it is to make prescription drugs more affordable to the masses. They don't take insurance, and in many cases, your prescriptions are even cheaper than your co-pays. They carry thousands of different prescription drugs, so whatever you're taking, there's a good chance they have it. No coupons are required, and this is not a discount card. It is pure savings on your prescription drugs. They specialize in generic meds for any chronic health needs you have. Call with your prescription and find out for free how little you can pay for your prescription drugs. Remember, we don't take insurance, so call right now.

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1:41:45 That's right. That's right. Our students right now are searching for this anchor of truth, right? That's largely been removed from our places of learning, unfortunately. But the Bible is that anchor. It is that compass that points us in the right direction. Our students are so hungry for it. That's why now each year we have over a million students bringing their Bibles to school. And bring your Bible to school day. Praise the Lord. Yeah, really. You know, and the thing is, like you said, this is in the midst of these kids being bombarded. Social media, their peers... oh, it's your truth, it's my truth, and that sort of thing. I mean, one of the biggest lies to be perpetrated over the decades, I mean, this has been going on for way too long, I think at least three, if not four decades, where this relativity has come into play. And the reason it has is only so that we could do it our way instead of God's way. And I would say, look back at the last five decades. How's that working for you, your way, huh?

1:42:39 Yeah, no, it hasn't worked out. We've seen In the statistics, in the research, right? That anxiety levels have gone up, that insecurities have gone through the roof, medications and whatnot for students, unfortunately. Bill, I just read a really sad statistic the other day, actually, a worrying statistic for me as a dad, that the earliest age, the average age, actually, that a student is exposed to pornography for the first time is eight years old. And that broke my heart, Bill. Oh, wow. Our culture is so, so broken. all the more reason for us to bring the healing balm of the gospel into our culture, to apply it where it's needed, to stand on it in the face of adversity, and to stand for truth amidst all of these falsehoods and lies that are hurting our children, that are hurting our communities.

1:43:24 You know, pause and think about that for a moment, ladies and gentlemen. Eight years old, a child first exposed to pornography. I mean, what does that do to the trajectory, the innocence of this child? And why does that come in? It comes in because, you know, the devil still rules here, but we have a choice because of what Jesus did for us on the cross. You can choose the cross or choose, you know, to have it your way and fall victim and be an easy picking, you know, for the demonic, right? And this is totally demonic, the kid's eight years old. Can you imagine? I mean, that's heartbreaking. I have not heard that statistic before, but thank you. Thanks. Thanks. I want to say thanks and no thanks for bringing it.

1:44:06 But I mean, seriously, thanks for bringing it because, you know, we can't put our head in the sand on this reality. That's right. We as Christians, especially my sleeping brothers and sisters, to put it in biblical terms, those who are asleep in their faith right now, we need to be activated for Christ, guys. Look at some of these headlines and see the brokenness in our culture. We need Jesus. in our world. Man, holy moly, just some of the recent headlines break my heart so much. And not only that, seeing some of the solidarity with sin among our culture in masses all just affirms to me that the gospel needs to be brought into our communities. We need to be more active in our faith as Christians, as believers. Bring Your Bible to School Day is one opportunity to do that.

1:44:50 And we found it focused on the family, giving our students opportunities to share their faith, like Bring Your Bible to School Day or See You at the Poll, like we just had recently. Our National Day of Evangelism coming up in November, giving our students opportunities to share their faith while they're in the home helps them own it when they leave the home. And so we want to provide more and more of those opportunities, yes, for our students, but also for the communities that they're going in, that they're being an impact on. Exactly. Yeah, I want to encourage these young kids, not only bring your Bible, but be the Bible. And the way to be the Bible is you've got to be reading it. You've got to immerse yourself. in the truth, the real truth. I often use this example that tellers at banks, when they study a legitimate or illegitimate bit of currency, people think, well, you must study the illegitimate, right? No, their focus is on the legitimate so that when the illegitimate comes out, It comes out so glaringly. See, and I think we can learn a lot and appreciate a lot from that perspective is that if we are in the word of God and understand what is the legitimate word of God and the legitimate direction of God, it's going to be harder for the demonic to sway us and to be swayed by our peer group. That if they're not connected to God, then their worldview and their actions are going to demonstrate that, are they not?

1:46:12 That's exactly right, Bill. Immerse yourself in the truth. meditate on God's Word, steep yourself in it. I encourage you students, yes, of course, bring your Bible to school on Bring Your Bible to School Day, but read your Bible, know your Bible. And if you want resources to learn how to do that, we have our website, bringyourbible.org, which has even conversation guides for some of the questions you may get that day, answers to tough questions about Christianity. If you're just hearing about Bring Your Bible to School Day right now and you feel unprepared, guys, it's not too late to still get prepared, to pray over your student, to encourage your student with some of the resources we have. Guys, go encourage this Thursday. Bring your Bible to school day and be a light for Christ wherever you are, however prepared you feel. God is going to use us in a mighty way.

1:46:53 And guess what, Bill? We don't have all the answers to all the questions that can come. Nobody has all the answers except for God himself. But I encourage you guys, if a question does come your way and you just don't have the answer to it, just answer humbly. Hey, I don't know the answer to that, but would you like to come to church with me? This Sunday, we can ask my pastor together. It opens the door for you to invite this person into the life, Christian life and your Christian community, as well as responds in a confident, humble way. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes when people ask you a question, you don't know, you go, wow, what a great question. You know, I wish I had a great answer for you. But honestly, I don't. And because I want to be honest and vulnerable with you. But we know that God is the source and God has all the answers. I mean, you know, the thing that's amazing to me about bring your Bible to school day, you know that God's hands upon this, because when you look at how it all started, right?

1:47:50 I mean, a little over 10 years ago, what, 12 years ago, a select few, a remnant, you might say, of people that really caught the idea of bringing your Bible to school day. And look how it's grown, you know, 12 years later, Emerson. That's right. That's right. 2014 was our first year. 8,000 students faithfully brought their Bibles to school. Praise the Lord. And just last year, 2025, 1.3 million students now bringing their Bibles. to school. So awesome to see. So encouraging that the Lord is capturing the hearts of the next generation for him, not only for themselves to enhance their faith, but to bring others into the fold, to win more souls for the kingdom. And Bill, I can tell you right now, I get to read some of these awesome stories of students who share their faith with their peers. and he is at work in our next generation.

1:48:40 It's so cool. Church leaders are coming alongside these students, even going out in front of schools before the day, handing out Bibles and Bring Your Bible to School Day, praying over their students. This is a student-led movement. Many students have started worship groups the morning of Bring Your Bible to School Day, where they pull out their guitars and they're singing praises before they go in on the day. It is phenomenal to see what the Lord is doing. He is at work in our nation. Our nation is not lost to the devil by any means entirely, but There are still souls that are meant to be one for Christ and His kingdom. So let's do it. Let's bring them heaven on Bring Your Bible to School Day. Amen. We're talking to Emerson Collins. He's the Focus on the Families Program Manager of Parenting and Youth. Do you got a story or two you can share with us? I know you say these kids talk to you all the time.

1:49:23 I mean, I'm sure our audience would love to hear some. Go ahead. Oh, Bill, I've got so many stories I'd love to share with you guys. Before I actually dive into the stories, I want to encourage you right now, if you want to read some of them, head on over to social media and use our hashtag, hashtag BringYourBible, and And you can see some of these stories I'll be sharing about in this interview, as well as beyond. Just be encouraged this morning. God is at work. But the story that comes to mind immediately is of a young girl who participated last year. She's in early high school, and she had written in the margins of her Bible, actually, her cries to the Lord through a specific favorite passage of hers that she was wrestling through suicidal ideation at that time. And those were her cries to the Lord that she had written in the margins of her Bible. Well, she pulled out her Bible and bring her Bible to school day during a free reading period and was just quietly reading it, and a friend walked by her desk and saw those notes that she had written in the margins of her Bible and actually shared with her that she was struggling with some of those thoughts as well. Well, this opened the door for her to speak life into her friend, to invite her friend to youth group, for her family as well to come alongside her friend's family. And just a couple months later, her friend got baptized and is now experiencing the life and healing in Jesus, the healing from those thoughts. Bill, the Word of God is living and active sharper than any two-edged sword. It is a beautiful, beautiful thing to behold.

1:50:40 And the healing gets felt on Bring Your Bible to School Day. Another story actually comes to mind of young David who participated two years ago. He's a second grader in Michigan, brought his Bible to school. Praise the Lord. The teacher actually saw it on his desk and decided to read it for their story time. They read the story of Noah's Ark. Well, enough of his students, his fellow students were interested, loved the story so much. They wanted to read more of this Bible. And so David decided to start a Bible study, a little second grade Bible study where they play tag for 15 minutes after school, and then they read from his Bible together. That Bible study is still continuing to this day, Bill. Praise the Lord. Bringing about the school day is one day a year, but my prayer is that this would be the launching point for so many into life in Christ.

1:51:24 Well, exactly, because you see the difference that it makes. I mean, even for a second grader, I mean, that is phenomenal. And, you know, so again, these are all indications that that God is alive and well and moving in the hearts of men and even second. Graders, right? Amen. Amen. I love this. This is awesome. You know, Emerson, just to see, you know, how bring your Bible to school day, how it's evolved from its early beginnings, you know, with an idea, you know, why not? And it was at a time when our faith was being attacked and we were told that you could not bring your Bible to school.

1:52:05 How dare you? But we said, oh, no, we're going to go and bring our Bible to school, right? That's right, Bill. And actually, you're hinging on something that's important when it comes to participation in the event. It is protected under our First Amendment rights to share our faith boldly and publicly in public spheres, in our public places of learning. So if you're a student or a parent right now who thinks, oh, is it legal for me to do this? It is. It is. You're protected. Praise the Lord we're protected under the First Amendment here in the U.S., Our brothers and sisters across the globe, not all of them are protected under rights like this one, and they suffer because of it. So it's worth celebrating our First Amendment freedoms as well, enshrined, of course, in biblical values. Praise the Lord.

1:52:46 But Bill, we're not interrupting the learning that's happening in our public schools with Bring Your Bible to School Day. We're calmly, confidently bringing our Bibles with us. We're not starting any schoolyard brawls. We're not standing on our desks. We're confidently bringing God's Word. We're humbly sharing it with our friends, as I believe Christ would. in schools today, and as I believe students should on Bring Your Bible to School Day. So again, we're protected under our First Amendment rights. All of this can be found on our website. We have a legal memo even that you can give to your teacher or principal ahead of time. Just print out and give it to them to remind them of your rights. Just respectfully let them know you'll be participating in Bring Your Bible to School Day so you can have a great experience on the day this Thursday. As we wrap things up, I'm going to give you the last word. Tell them where they go. Where's the website to get all this information?

1:53:31 Yeah, if you want to get any of this information or resources, head on down to our website, bringyourbible.org. That's bringyourbible.org. We have a wealth of resources there, a poster, a flyer, conversation guides, the legal memo, answers to tough questions about Christianity. If you're a teacher, we have an educator's guide in terms of how you can participate as well. That's all on our website, bringyourbible.org. He's focused on the families, program manager of parenting and youth. Emerson Collins has been with us. Emerson, God bless. Thank you so much. Bill, thanks for having me. God bless. If you're 65 or older and Medicare is your main source of insurance, pay close attention right now and listen for details on how you may save thousands of dollars on your health care costs. Did you know that Medicare can pay for things like dental visits, home delivery of drugs, even a gym membership? Call us right now and learn how to unlock all your Medicare benefits. Medicare and supplemental plans that we provide can even offer you drug coverage with zero co-pays and pay for transportation to your doctors.

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