Oct. 2, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 10 02 26

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Are you ready yeah okay let's do it bill martinez

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live a program about current events our culture our values

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our politics and our future and now bill martinez.

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Hey good morning glad you could join us bill martinez

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here along with grover norquist from atr grover good morning

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to you good morning bill Well, I'll tell you, as

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we draw closer to the midterms, I think people are

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starting to look a little bit closer at the Democratic Party,

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that they're really not joking about their stances. I mean,

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I don't know if you saw this or not, but

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the Democratic Party just got a roaring endorsement of all

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people from the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps.

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OK, the Iranians. The Iranian dictatorship has been acting as

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if its goal was to undermine the Trump administration and

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the United States in order to help the Democrats win

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the election. They certainly did that to Jimmy Carter. They

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undermined him. They're used to getting in the middle of

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races and making the incumbent look bad.

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Well, look what happened. I mean, they like Barack Obama very,

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very good. He's very, very good to the IRGC, right?

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I mean, gave him a pathway to nuclear weaponization, which,

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I mean, I keep hearing Barack Obama back in those

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days saying, you know, Iran will never get a nuclear bomb. Well,

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wait a minute. You gave him on a path. I mean,

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there was a sunset clause that was going to allow

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them to do such as that. And then you lie

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to the American people and say, just the opposite.

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And he gave them a great deal of money, money

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that they had stored in the West. But we should

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be able to say, look, if you could commit an

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act of terror, Iran, we're going to compensate the people

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that you attacked with your money that you have stored

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in Western banks.

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So the IRGC, obviously, you know, they're agenda is pretty

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much in alignment with the Democratic Party today. I know

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a lot of times people, Grover, want to talk about

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the far left, but the far left is what's ruling

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the Democrats, right?

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They really have moved tremendously to the left. Part of

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it is they're so upset at Trump's getting elected twice

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against them. They're so upset that he was able to

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get significant tax reduction, that he's going after waste and fraud.

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That is what pays the Democratic coalition to keep in line.

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That money's not fraud in the sense they don't know

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what's going on. It's fraud in the sense it's not

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legally what it was supposed to be for, but that

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money flows into big city political machines. And that's how

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the Democratic Party pays its campaign workers, that pays the

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people who turn out the vote in those cities. So

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they have to win those elections or they don't eat.

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And they're very, very angry and troubled by the Republican Party,

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which has won the House and the Senate. 18 years

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since 1994. Democrats, only six. That was 94 is when

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Republicans took the pledge, we're never going to raise taxes.

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Whereas before that, they were willing to raise taxes. But

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since 1994, the Republicans have won Congress, both houses, 18 years, Democrats,

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six years. That is a huge shift from the 62

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years before that, where the Republicans only won twice in

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62 years. They won Congress twice. So the Democrats see

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the country shifting out from under them. They will do

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anything and everything and take really icky allies into their

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arms in a hope to win.

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They are terribly desperate, aren't they?

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Well, look ahead. Every 10 years when we do the

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redistricting and we do the census, we say, how many

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seats does California get? It used to be bigger as

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part of the United States. There's a larger percentage. Now

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it's less. So there'll be fewer congressmen, fewer electoral college

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votes in California and more in Texas and more in

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Florida every 10 years now. 10 or 11 of those

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votes move from blue states to red states. So six

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years from now, the next time they do the census

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and allot the congressional districts, there'll be another 10 more

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Republicans and 10 fewer Democrats. So whatever happens in this

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election this fall, in six years, the Republicans will be

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20 points above the Democrats based on from where they were.

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And then 10 years after that, meaning 16 years from now,

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it's 20 more Republicans and 20 less Democrats, a 40

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congressional seat gap, a 40 person gap in the electoral college.

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It's going to become increasingly difficult for the Democrats to

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win Congress and the presidency because of the electoral college.

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That's why they're talking about radically taking over the Supreme Court,

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adding a you know, 12 other people to the Supreme

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Court that they know are left wing, and changing the rules.

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The Electoral College is in the Constitution. You have to

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really cheat to get around that. They're willing to do it.

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Well, and the Democrats have admitted as such, Grover, that

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without this, that you probably won't see another Democrat getting elected,

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which reinforces what you just laid out for us right now. And,

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you know, they said the quiet part out loud. So

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this is why they're so desperate. But, I mean, you know,

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you think about the consequences of democratic rule. I mean,

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we already experienced eight years of Obama, Obamacare, the no scandal,

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the scandal-free administration, allegedly. And here now we are finding

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out more and more all these other scandals and these

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things that are falling out of, you know, it's like

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Fibber McGee's closet. You know, all this stuff is falling

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out that involved the weaponization and the participation of the

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president of the United States, Grover.

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Yes, they have really politicized the government. And remember, this

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is a party that rules from the cities. And think

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of how corrupt Detroit and Chicago and Boston and New

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York are. The city government might as well be part

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of the Democratic Party. That's where they pay their staff.

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It's people who are paid by the government who actually

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are spending their time doing political work. Sometimes they... when

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they have labor unions, they get into the contract that

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there are a certain number of full-time government workers paid

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by the government whose actual job will be to work

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for the union. And so how do they get all

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those government, those left of center Democrat full-time employees? They're

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paid by you and me in our taxes.

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Right.

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And then you wonder why we're at $ 40 trillion in

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debt now, right?

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Yes, and 20 trillion, 22 of that, 22 trillion of

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that was all the great society, which is when Lyndon

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Baines Johnson, the president after Kennedy, said, we know how

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to fix poverty and we know how to educate poor

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children to bring them up to speed, okay? So then

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we're sure we know how to do that and we're

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gonna go spend that money and do it. It's been

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60 years. And the education has gotten worse and more

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people are locked into poverty now than before. So one

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notices that just before the 50th anniversary of the Great

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Society was founded, our friend Obama said, forget the Great Society,

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we're going to focus on inequality. We're not going to

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talk about poverty anymore. Because we spent 50 years and

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tens of trillions of dollars not solving that, making it worse.

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We haven't made education better. We've made it worse. So

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that he didn't say out loud.

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I was going to say, I didn't mean to say that.

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Our new goal is ending inequality or reducing it. The

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great thing about ending inequality or reducing inequality is you

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can make everybody more equal without making anyone better off.

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Everybody could be worse off. but you're more equal. That's

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what the Middle Ages were.

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It's called shared misery. We've got to go to a

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quick break. We've got more from Grover right after this.

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Hey, welcome back. I'm Bill Martinez, and he is Grover Norquist,

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the president of Americans for Tax Reform. Grover, you know,

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to all this that we're discussing here, the idea that

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the Democrats would take over our country, even in the

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last two years, everything that Donald Trump has been doing

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would come to a screeching halt. I mean, this would

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be worse than what we experienced with COVID. Remember, we

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were rolling along. GDP was increasing, the economy was humming,

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and all of a sudden, here comes COVID. And Donald

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Trump and his administration had to manage through that for

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about a year. But regardless, it brought everything to a

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screeching halt, and it opened up a door of opportunity

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for the Democrats to get into the Treasury and start

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spending money, and I said, paying back those political debts

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that they owed because of the failure of Hillary Clinton

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to beat Donald Trump.

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Yes.

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When When COVID was in the rearview mirror and Biden

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came in, they still threw huge amounts of money into

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the big city political machines and called it fighting COVID.

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When Obama came in after the collapse, because the federal

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government's banking rules had so damaged the banking industry, Danny May,

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Freddie Mac all went crazy.

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Thank you very much, Elizabeth Warren, by the way. Amongst others.

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So as we were coming out of that, what did

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Obama want? Hundreds of billions of dollars thrown onto the

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table for the Democrats to spend. So they've always announced

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an emergency, which requires billions and billions and billions, now

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trillions of dollars. And what's it for? It's for the

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Democratic Party and its operatives. The third, there was the

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New Deal under FDR. There was the Great Society under

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Lyndon Baines Johnson. And then there was supposed to be

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the Green New Deal. And when people calculated how much

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that would cost the American people in higher prices, higher taxes,

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higher prices, it was about $ 90 trillion, which would almost

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triple the national debt. And that's what they wanted to

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do because there's too much carbon dioxide in the air,

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the stuff that trees live on.

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Yeah, right.

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Yeah, exactly. Uh, God forbid trees would, would have the

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carbon dioxide that's necessary for them to continue to live.

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And of course, uh, and, and as a consequence, uh,

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the trees, uh, are giving us less oxygen. So then

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what do we do?

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It's, um, It's a very interesting game the left plays.

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They come up with an emergency. The great thing about

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the Green New Deal was the emergency was the world

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is going to fall apart in 100 years. Well, you

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now have 100 years to raise taxes and change everyone's

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lifestyle to make them poorer and worse off. And then

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when you say, well, what's the emergency? Oh, it's 100

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years from now. We have to do it now or

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we all die in 100 years and the world ends.

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So they put the, if they said the world ends tomorrow,

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like the guys who used to stand on the street

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corners and said the world ends Tuesday. And then on Tuesday,

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they were looking silly. But the Democrats were smart enough

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to put the world falling apart and ending far enough

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out that they'd never have to deal with it.

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Right.

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Although, you know, Al Gore put some dates, you know,

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in 20 years. And then, of course, Greta Thunberg was saying, like,

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next week, you know, crazy stuff. And, you know, like

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all these prognosticators, after a while, you start seeing them

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for what they are. They're charlatans. And, you know, Al Gore,

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thank God, is kind of hiding away, but he's trying

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to find a reason to be reborn and be significant again.

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But the Democrats, you know, like Ron Emanuel announced yesterday,

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You're not going to let some good crisis go to waste.

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So that's Al Gore and the rest of them. They're

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in search of another good crisis, right?

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Yes.

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And Rahm Emanuel saying out loud the secret part, which

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is crises are used to fund the Democratic Party and

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win elections. They're not to be solved. If you solve them,

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what good are they now?

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Well, yeah. And you pointed out, I mean, here it is,

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what happened in the mid-60s. And after all the trillions

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of dollars, you said $ 22 trillion. And that was a

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partial answer to my question that I asked you a

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couple of months ago of the $ 40 trillion, how much

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was it to buy votes? And I think just off

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the top of your head, you said, well, I think

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all of it. But you at least have come back

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and said at least half of that is just from

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this you know, this idea that Lyndon Baines Johnson had presented.

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And he ended up, he was scratching an itch that

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wasn't there. And he created this problem and devastated a

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democratic group of, a demography group of our country, blacks especially.

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I mean, look where they are. I mean, over, you know,

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since then, Grover, they're still at about 13, 15% of America,

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while other, you know, other demographic groups have grown.

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Well, yeah, Thomas Sowell, the great intellectual and writer, pointed

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out that the strength of the Black family was growing

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before the Great Society. Employment was higher before the Great Society.

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The Black family survived 100... Thomas Solsworth, the Black family

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survived 100 years of slavery. What it didn't survive was

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the welfare. That's what damaged the Black family and led

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to people being locked into welfare reform. That's what destroyed

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the school structures in the Democrat. When schools become a

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placeholder for where you put your Democratic precinct workers instead

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of a place to educate kids, you end up doing damage.

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So they deliberately crippled an entire generation in order to

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keep them bound to the government. You need me now.

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I just broke your leg.

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Right.

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Yeah, exactly. And when you think it's healed, we're going

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to break it again because that's what they're good at.

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So with about three minutes left here, Grover, I mean,

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America needs to connect the dots here. We have enough history.

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I mean, this is empirical data of the damage that

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democratic policies have done to America, how it has corrupted

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the process and why we have all this fraud, billions

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of dollars. You know, Elon Musk, as you'll recall, early

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on said, I think I could find easy a trillion

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dollars of fraud and waste. And he thought, and I

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believe that could be the case, that that was even

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then was the tip of the iceberg. And of course,

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they did everything to get him outside of Dodge. So

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knowing all this that we know today about the Democratic Party,

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why would America put them in control of the Senate

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and the House and what it could translate in terms

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of our taxes and the effect it would have on taxpayers?

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Well, Bill, if everyone listening and they're family and friends,

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makes a determined effort to go out and vote. It's

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not easy. The world gets busy.

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But vote.

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Because the only reason some of the polls show Democrats

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doing well is that Republicans, when asked, aren't as enthusiastic

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about reelecting the Republicans as the Democrats are at hating Trump.

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And it's just very important that people vote. Get your

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voting age kids to vote, your relatives, your friends, people

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from church, synagogue, mosque, talk to your friends and allies,

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get them out and vote. And whether it's by mail

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or in person, start now, be sure and show up

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on election day if you haven't voted earlier.

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What's the countermeasure and the counter narrative to I hate Trump?

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The countermeasure to I hate Trump is the Democratic Party

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is not your father's Democratic Party. The Democratic Party has

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more recently been taken over by people who are extreme,

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people who have working relationships with the anti-American countries all

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around the country, from Nicaragua to Cuba to so on.

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The Democratic Socialists of America used to 40, 50 years ago,

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exclude communists. They were a left of center group that

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said you could not join if you were a communist. So,

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you know, the left is always saying that we want

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to exclude the communists. This was a group that knew

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what it meant if the communists came inside one of

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your organizations, that they would take it over. More recently,

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they ended that required requirement that you could not be

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a communist. You had to be a Democrat. So a

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Democrat and an American. And so those people have taken

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over much, if not all, of the Democrats, Democrat Socialists

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of America. They have allowed people who in their heart

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of hearts and in public are comments, meaning they don't

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believe in democracy, meaning they don't believe in the Constitution.

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How can they say they're American, Grover?

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Well, you can get your citizenship, but you can be

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an American and technically an American and not like the constitution.

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Those are called traitors. And usually that number's low enough.

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And if they are public in their views, they don't

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amount to anything, but they're lying about who they are.

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And the Democratic Party has accepted them in. I mean,

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the number of hard left, the guy running in Texas,

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the guy who was running in Maine, the various folks

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who are running have very, the czar, left of center.

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They don't believe the Constitution is a good idea.

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Exactly.

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Got to leave it there for now. Grover Norquist, always

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appreciate the time. He's president of Americans for Tax Reform.

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The website they can go to to be in the

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flow of the know, Grover?

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ATR.org.

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Every 40 seconds, a child disappears. That's 2,000 children every

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single day. Find the Children is a nonprofit organization fighting

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to bring them home, but we can't do it without you.

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The Bill Martinez Show 10 02 26

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