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The Bill Martinez Show 10 01 26

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The Bill Martinez Show 10 01 26
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Are you ready?

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Yeah.

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Okay, let's do it.

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Bill Martinez Live, a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future. And now, Bill Martinez.

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Hey, good morning.

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Six minutes after the top of the hour right now.

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I'm Bill Martinez. He's Mike O'Neill from Landmark Legal. Michael,

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how are we doing?

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I'm good, Bill. Busy. How are you, my friend?

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Like you. Running around with my hair on fire. A

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lot going on. We're a little over 30 days to

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the midterms. And, you know, the question is, what kind

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of government are we going to have after the midterms, right?

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Yeah, I think so.

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I mean, I think one of the things we've been

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talking about repeatedly and it continues to come up is

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election integrity.

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And it's an important issue that we discuss.

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We've talked about it a lot that there's non-citizens that

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are on voter rolls. Inevitably, this occurs when you have

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voter registration that's contingent upon obtaining a driver's license or

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an identification card.

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It's really easy to register to vote. That's generally a

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good thing.

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We want it to be easy, but we also want

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it to be safe and we want it to be secure.

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So what happens is when you have these processes in place,

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inevitably you have ineligible individuals' names appear on voter rolls.

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We know this happens. It happened in New Jersey. Names

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of non-citizens are on voter rolls. New Jersey, California, other states, Virginia.

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It seems routinely we hear election officials or governors indicate

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that there's ineligible individuals, again, non-citizens whose names.

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Appear on the voter rolls. This is something we've talked

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about a lot to save America.

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Well, it's almost, it's almost like they're trying to get

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ahead of it a little bit too, because, you know,

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for Virginia to say, well, we, we found 6,000. Our, Okay.

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There's more.

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Yeah, there's got to be more. I mean, it's just

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like even California. California is a hot mess. I mean,

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it's designed with that voter motor law that they passed.

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It's designed for this kind of corruption.

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Absolutely.

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In broad.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, it's a feature of the system, not a bug.

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Exactly. Right.

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And so, as us nerdy lawyers like to say, it's

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a feature of the system, not a bug. And so,

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it is designed to have this. It's loosey-goosey.

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It's really easy.

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And then, with the imposition of mail voting and the

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fact that in a lot of these jurisdictions, in a

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lot of these states, it doesn't matter whether you want

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to vote by mail or not, you're going to get

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a mail ballot. In California, if your name's on the

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voter rolls, you're going to get a mail ballot. So

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that means if you're not eligible to vote, but your

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name's on the voter list, you're going to get a ballot.

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And that means you can commit a crime if you

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execute that ballot, etc. All the problems attended to that.

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So what is the Trump administration doing? Obviously, there is

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the Save America Act. There's that piece of legislation we've

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discussed a lot that has not gotten through Congress that

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would obligate state and local registers, state election officials, local

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registers to identify and remove non-citizens. Place an affirmative federal

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legal obligation on these individuals to to identify and remove

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non-citizens from.

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The voting rolls.

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That would be the ideal situation. That would be a

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great situation. We don't have that law in place. The

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Senate sat on its hands, didn't trigger the traditional filibuster,

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didn't make Democrats fight tooth and nail for this.

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They got away with it. This law is not on

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the books for the 2026 election. Big, big tragedy.

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But the Trump administration has taken some administrative steps. They

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have done, for example, there is something known as the

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systematic alien election. verification eligibility system database, which is called

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the SAVE, inevitably. It's also called the SAVE, so don't

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be confused here.

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We have the Save.

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America Act, and then we have the SAVE database. The

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SAVE database is a database that states and the federal

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government and localities can use to verify eligibility for public benefits.

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So if you want to sign up for welfare benefits,

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if you want to sign up for other federal benefits

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or state benefits or local benefits, you can verify your

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eligibility using this database. Well, also, the Trump administration opened

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up this database for information from DHS and from the

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Social Security Administration regarding citizenship information. So DHS and Social

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Security Administration have information about whether an individual is a

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citizen of the United States here legally, etc. And the

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SAVE database was opened up to this new data and

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said on a voluntary basis, basis saying hey election officials

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if you want to have access to this database to

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verify the eligibility of the names of the individuals on

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your voter rolls you can use the save database makes

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sense right if you're if you're a registered voter in

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fairfax county virginia for example and you have 700 800

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a million names on your voter roll wouldn't it make

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sense to say okay i want to run these names

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through a check system through a federal database to see

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if i get any hits and to see whether any

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of these people are not citizens of the United States

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and at least have a beginning to investigate that. So

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it comes back, you have a thousand names on that. Okay,

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then you can do some due diligence to confirm whether

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those individuals are citizens or whether they're not citizens. I'm

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not saying automatically remove them. I'm saying it's a lead.

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It's another data point that these registrars can use to

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verify eligibility on their voter rolls.

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Yeah, but why should they get a ballot?

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Right.

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Well, I agree with that. Well, that would be the point.

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The whole point is to ensure that their names are

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removed so they don't get ballots, right? Because we have

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to accept the fact that non-citizens' names are on voter rolls.

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Now, what do we do? We want to remove those

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names from the voter rolls.

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And how do we remove those names from the voter rolls? Well,

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we have to identify it. You have 600,000 people, 600,000

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names on your voter rolls. You have to be able

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to identify what of those names are non-citizens. Well, okay,

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I'm going to access this database. who has indications, you know,

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Michael O'Neill, who lives at 123 Main Street, whose date

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of birth is 121, 1980, then, hey, he's not a

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citizen because he indicated when he was applying for benefits

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that he's not a citizen, but he's still here legally,

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et cetera. Okay, well, I guess Michael O'Neill, who lives

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at 123 Main Street, who was born on 121, 1980,

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has indicated.

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He's not a citizen.

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Okay, well, now my voter register, my registered voters in

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my county, Fairfax County, has that piece of information, they

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can follow up with me. They can call me. They

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can send a letter.

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Hey, your name is here. Can you verify your citizenship status? Otherwise,

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we will remove you from the voter rolls. This is

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all just due diligence. This is what registers of voters

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are empowered to do and are.

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Legally obligated to do. Who's responsible, Michael, at the end

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of the day? Who should go to jail when these

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things aren't adhered to?

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Yeah, that's a fantastic question. And this is the point here.

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I think, and this is why the Save America Act

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was so important.

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Because when you.

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Talk about who should be held responsible, this piece of legislation,

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federal law, would have put a law, an obligation on

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those registrars, the state election officials and registrars of voters.

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Registrars of voters are often at county level. to identify

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and remove these individuals from the voter rolls. Now, there

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is an obligation under the NVRA to remove dead people

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and to remove people whose names are, who've moved out

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of your jurisdiction.

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So if I move out- Did California get that memo?

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Yeah, no, they're not interested in this. But the whole

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point is, is putting this federal, you can sue California.

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Private parties actually can sue California for failing to follow

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their obligations under the NVRA. They can say that they're

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not doing what's required to do. They're not conducting due diligence.

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But the NVRA, again, is applicable to people who've moved

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out of the jurisdiction who've died. It's been concluded that

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it's not applicable to non-citizens. That's, again, why the Save

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America Act was such an important piece of legislation, right?

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Because it would have been a law. And we know

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how important laws are.

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As opposed to executive orders or regulations or this stuff.

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State officials would have been breaking the law if they

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weren't doing their due diligence to remove non-citizens from voting,

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from the voter rolls. They would have been breaking the

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Save America Act. They would have been breaking that law.

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And then you could have done something accordingly. You would

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have been empowered to take some sort of action. Either

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the federal government or possibly private parties could have taken

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some sort of action. Again, that law is not in place.

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This is all pie in the sky, me dreaming that

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this actual law had gotten into place since the Senate

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had done its job.

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They didn't do their job. They didn't enact the one piece.

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Of legislation that all conservatives, all Republicans, their base wanted

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them to do to improve voter integrity.

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They didn't do it. They're probably going to pay the

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price in a couple, in 30 days. We'll see.

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But it's incredibly frustrating. But getting back to what the

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Supreme Court did on Friday, which is important, is the

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The Trump administration can only do so much, right? They're

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constrained with our separation of powers, with their constitutional authority,

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with their legal authority.

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They can only do so much. Generally, a good thing.

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You don't want to have the president running amok, making

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new laws, doing all this stuff. They did take an action.

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And the fact that they had this federal database, they

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added more information into this federal database.

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I'll tell you what, let's hold for a second. Let's

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go to break. We'll pick it up on the other side.

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More from Mike O'Neill after this. Stay with us.

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with children in after-school say STEM is available, up from

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69% a decade ago. That's 6.4 million kids now getting

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STEM in after-school. Emma Binet, Overdeck Family Foundation.

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This study underscores the remarkable work out-of-school time programs do

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to help students discover the joy in learning while preparing

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The study finds rural and low-income students are less likely

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fewer opportunities in computer science and technology. Jody Grant, Executive

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Director of the After-School Alliance.

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The next step is clear. Invest more in after-school programs

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Hey, welcome back. Bill Martinez here with Mike O'Neill from

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Landmark Legal. All right, pick up on the story, okay?

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Absolutely.

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So what is the Trump administration doing to try to

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secure election integrity going forward, into the midterms, into elections

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going forward? They understand that election integrity is a nonpartisan issue.

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This is an important issue that Americans are concerned about.

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80%, right? 80% of the American people.

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OK, so 80 percent.

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But there should be some bipartisan issue, you would think.

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I mean, there should be some issue. I mean, participation.

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This is always this is the idealistic part of me

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is always surprised that there isn't bipartisan support. Then the

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practical part of my of me understands. Well, let's let's look.

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It's not a coincidence getting into it, not to get

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too far down that road. It's not a coincidence that

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in states that don't have that have universal mail balloting,

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that don't obligate people to vote in person on election

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day using paper ballots, that a certain party controls those jurisdictions, right?

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There are certain entities in this country that like chaos

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on election day and that thrive in that chaos.

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We know who that is. We don't have to talk

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about it.

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But anyway, the Trump administration, going back to what's happened

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here in the past week, is important. The Trump administration

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recognizes this problem. Non-citizens are on the voter rolls. We've

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got to try to do something. Okay, well, let's make

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this database. Let's put information in the database. that has

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information of non-citizens in it.

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Okay, good.

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Social Security Administration, DHS, put information into this database. Now,

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let's make this database available to state election officials and

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registrars on a voluntary basis so that they can access

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this database to verify the eligibility and the citizenship status

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of the names of individuals on their voter rolls. Again,

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common sense, right? If you are a register of voters,

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you want to make sure your voter rolls are clean

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and that there's eligible voters on your voter rolls.

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You don't want non-citizens.

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You don't want to be embarrassed to have to say, oh, 5,000

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names of people on my voter rolls are non-citizens.

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That's bad, right? That's bad on so many levels. So Again,

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this database is available.

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Of course, the usual suspects stepped up and sued the

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Trump administration, saying that they didn't have the authority to

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do this.

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You had a district court said, you know what? The

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Trump administration, we.

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Agree with you, private parties challenging this. The Trump administration

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is overstepping its authority. You have a circuit court overstepping

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its authority. Finally, again, common sense reigns. The Supreme Court

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comes in. The Supreme Court, on an expedited basis, again,

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this is all in these emergency docket. The Supreme Court

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says no.

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You guys are wrong. District court's wrong. Circuit court's wrong.

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The president does have this authority. Here it is. This

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is the statutory authority.

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The DHS has the authority to contribute this information, to

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operate this database.

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Social Security, there's nothing that precludes.

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The Social Security Administration from contributing information into this database.

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It's fair.

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It's up.

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It's up.

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And it's necessary. And the court doesn't say it's necessary

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for election integrity, but between the lines. And then, so

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now this database is available. This is a positive step.

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This is the Supreme Court, again, recognizing any step that

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the Supreme Court takes, recognizing the importance of ensuring that

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election integrity is a positive step in my mind, because

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you want to drag them across that finish line and say, hey, look,

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this is a real problem in our country.

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States, localities have to do something.

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A state like Arizona that wants to improve its voter

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integrity by enacting a certain law, that should be good.

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President wants to take this administrative step to open up

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a database.

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That should be good.

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Anytime you get the Supreme Court saying, Yes, we're not

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going to stand in the way of voter integrity is

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a time to celebrate. That, of course, the bigger problem,

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which what we talked about before is the Save America Act,

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but we take our victories where we can.

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Right, Bill?

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Without a doubt. Well, the deal is, is that I

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would think that the everyday American has standing because if somebody,

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if the election process is screwed up in California, the

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other 49 states are going to have to pay for it.

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And we've been paying for it.

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Yeah, that's that. I love that point. But that's the point.

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This is something I've grappled with for years.

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There is no unfortunately there is no generalized voter standing.

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There isn't something you can't allege unless you're a protected class,

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unless you traditionally the civil rights voting cases say that

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if if if the state does something to dilute the

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vote of an of an African-American voter, of a protected

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class voter, in other words, uses race as a way

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to gerrymand a congressional district. then you're diluting the vote

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of the African-American voter. That's been standing, but there's no generalized,

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at least the court has yet to acknowledge that, hey,

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my vote is being diluted by ineligible individuals, non-citizens casting ballots.

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Because for every ineligible individual who casts a ballot, the

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power of my vote is diluted. That sounds reasonable, right?

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I've suffered an injury. Courts have yet to recognize that.

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The best we've got right now is a decision from

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last term, the Boss decision, which said that candidates, political candidates,

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do have a generalized standing. In other words, they can

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challenge some of these laws that states like California, and

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I want to see this actually, a state like California

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might have these loosey-goosey laws in effect or procedures in

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effect that don't protect the integrity of the vote. And

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I think a candidate, the court has recognized that a

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candidate can challenge those processes or laws, but a generalized

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voter can't do that as of right now.

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You know, we were just talking about who'd be responsible.

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It's kind of interesting. You have a situation, what was

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the gal's name? I think in Colorado, she was a

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registrar of voters and she kind of documented, you know,

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some cheating or inaccuracy in the voting, right?

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Right, right.

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She goes to jail.

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Yeah, well, the one thing we got to understand about

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this situation, and again, this is this law that was

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this action by the president, by the administration to open

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up the systematic alien verification eligibility system. The challenges, the

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opponents to this are smart, well-organized, well-funded, and everywhere, right?

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You have attorney generals from blue states. You have very

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smart lawyers in a lot of public interest groups on

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the other side of the aisle here who bring these challenges.

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You have very aggressive.

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They also have access to very powerful, aggressive law firms

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who don't hesitate to bring these sorts of lawsuits and

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challenge anybody for voter intimidation.

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So there is a lot.

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They vehemently defend their position on this. And you can expect, again,

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virtually every effort to improve the integrity of the voting system.

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Is met with an automatic challenge. no matter what it is, right?

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If it's demanding that you pay for a stamp to

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put on a mail ballot, that's challenged. Anything, any kind

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of law that a state enacts or any kind of

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effort that an election official does to try to improve

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the integrity of the voting system is met with challenge.

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And the allegations, of course, by the other side are what? Well,

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this process is going to disenfranchise eligible individuals and the

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vote the right to vote is sacrosanct and if you

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you are infringing on this and they do what i

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will give them credit they are great.

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At identifying a a victim in these.

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Cases oh yeah without a doubt they're great.

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My answer to that is always provisional ballots even if

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you're inadvertently removed and there's a there's an oversight say

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example i i get removed from the voting rolls and

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i'm otherwise eligible i can still go to vote on

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election day and most and inevitably all these cases, all

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these provisions, you can always go vote and cast a

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provisional ballot. And once your eligibility is confirmed, that vote

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is counted.

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So there's really no harm. The harm is always speculative

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in these cases.

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Nonetheless, those challenges, the other side's challenges are always given standing.

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Our challenges that I want to talk about regarding the

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generalized voting, hey, my vote's been diluted because these improper

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laws or ineligible people are casting ballots, courts always smack

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those down.

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So it's always, it's kind of a one-way street with

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regards to that.

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Well, we're back to the old saying that Joseph Stalin said, Mike,

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that he says, I can consider it completely unimportant who

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in the party will vote or how, but what is

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extraordinarily important is this, who will count the votes and how.

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Yeah, exactly.

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And that's why you want to have a transparent system.

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And I mean, it's funny that interestingly, California is kind

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of does on the books in theory, not necessarily in practice. California,

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their laws regarding transparency of the process are fairly strong.

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In other words, you have a legal right to watch

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all of this. That's a legal right. But that's another

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thing that doesn't discount the fact in reality, oftentimes what

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happens is that election observers are segregated out. And we've

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seen that pushed out or you have the coverage going

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on the voting counting or you have the counting occurring

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after the people leave or et cetera, et cetera. That's why, again,

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I think Simply observing the system really does help. And

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there are groups of people who train election observers in California,

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for example, and other political parties do this.

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They deploy election observers. It's funny, though.

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A lot of the people in these systems, if you're

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watching them, they kind of do their dastardly deeds under

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the table. Keeping eyes on them keeps them on the

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up and up. Just simply notifying them that you're watching

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is enough to inject a degree of integrity into the process.

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So that's why it's.

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Important to observe elections and keep your eyes open for

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these sorts of things.

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Exactly.

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Hey, good morning. Welcome back. Bill Martinez here with Dr.

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Wilfred Riley, the one and only. Hey, Will, how we doing?

548
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Doing well. What about you?

549
00:27:04.650 --> 00:27:07.500
Hey, doing wonderful. You know, just catching up on all

550
00:27:07.660 --> 00:27:11.759
the stuff that's going on. I guess Macklemore, here he is.

551
00:27:11.779 --> 00:27:15.839
I mean, Ed Sheeran. I mean, this has gone just

552
00:27:16.059 --> 00:27:21.960
absolutely crazy on the internet. Ed Sheeran picks this guy up.

553
00:27:22.220 --> 00:27:26.849
He's pretty much I don't know, not really, you know,

554
00:27:27.609 --> 00:27:32.009
I think an A-lister type of opening act, but he

555
00:27:32.049 --> 00:27:35.630
gives them an opportunity. And, you know, I don't know

556
00:27:35.650 --> 00:27:37.529
what Ed Sheeran was thinking or his people. What did

557
00:27:37.549 --> 00:27:39.029
they think Macklemore was going to do?

558
00:27:40.609 --> 00:27:42.109
Well, I mean, first of all, I haven't heard the

559
00:27:42.170 --> 00:27:46.769
name Macklemore in a while. Macklemore is a rapper who

560
00:27:46.890 --> 00:27:50.779
did the song Thrift Shop about 10 or 12 years ago.

561
00:27:53.190 --> 00:27:55.259
He's actually a pretty good rapper. I mean, I listen

562
00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:57.240
to hip hop. He's got a decent flow on the mic,

563
00:27:57.599 --> 00:28:00.920
but he's also a political radical. And I'm very surprised

564
00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:03.759
he's on the Ed Sheeran tour. But anyway, yeah, he

565
00:28:03.779 --> 00:28:07.640
went out and he started chanting things like free Palestine.

566
00:28:07.660 --> 00:28:09.640
And he's done this before. I mean, there was a

567
00:28:09.759 --> 00:28:12.440
show that actually a couple of friends of mine attended

568
00:28:12.460 --> 00:28:15.500
where he dressed like a Hasidic Jew. He put on

569
00:28:16.039 --> 00:28:18.019
a prosthetic nose. I mean, it's one of the more

570
00:28:18.059 --> 00:28:21.029
offensive things I've ever seen. It's up there like old blackface.

571
00:28:21.410 --> 00:28:24.519
They had a kippah on. And so he apparently had

572
00:28:24.579 --> 00:28:26.619
pledged not to do things like this. He went out

573
00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:31.200
and started screaming free Palestine, you know, criticizing the United States.

574
00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:33.880
He's burnt American flags before. And apparently the tour and

575
00:28:33.900 --> 00:28:36.160
the other acts just said, you know, we're a kind

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00:28:36.220 --> 00:28:38.349
of centrist, mostly rock show. Like you got to get

577
00:28:38.410 --> 00:28:41.109
out of here. So Macklemore is going back to obscurity,

578
00:28:41.170 --> 00:28:41.849
relative obscurity.

579
00:28:42.609 --> 00:28:46.130
Well, maybe, although, you know, this gets like anything, any

580
00:28:46.170 --> 00:28:49.089
kind of publicity, as they say in the business is

581
00:28:49.150 --> 00:28:52.289
good publicity. Nobody heard his name in a long time,

582
00:28:52.329 --> 00:28:53.890
as you said, but they're hearing a lot.

583
00:28:53.730 --> 00:28:54.309
Of it now.

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00:28:55.329 --> 00:28:58.250
But by the same token, Ed Sheeran, I think, has

585
00:28:58.289 --> 00:29:00.750
kind of sealed up in his own conscience what it's

586
00:29:00.809 --> 00:29:04.049
all about. I mean, he's very nonpolitical. He's there about

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00:29:04.089 --> 00:29:09.609
being an entertainer. And, you know, it's silly for these entertainers,

588
00:29:09.690 --> 00:29:11.609
especially for the amount of money you're paying for a ticket,

589
00:29:11.950 --> 00:29:14.849
that you go and you want to be, you know,

590
00:29:15.309 --> 00:29:20.700
indoctrinated with some political idea. idea that you certainly, if

591
00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:22.940
you don't agree with it, it's even worse yet, right?

592
00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:26.740
I don't see anything wrong with, I mean, so you

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00:29:26.799 --> 00:29:29.119
and I both speak, both do business. And I mean,

594
00:29:29.140 --> 00:29:30.930
doing that, you meet a lot of bluntly rich people.

595
00:29:30.950 --> 00:29:32.390
So I mean, you'll go to people's houses and you'll

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00:29:32.410 --> 00:29:35.509
see that guys who might be the local TV anchor,

597
00:29:35.549 --> 00:29:37.109
it might be the businessman who owns a couple of

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00:29:37.190 --> 00:29:40.690
oil wells. People have strong political opinions. They'll express privately.

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00:29:41.380 --> 00:29:44.059
But I think that there's nothing wrong with entertainers doing that.

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00:29:44.119 --> 00:29:48.640
The difference is that entertainers have public platforms. So if

601
00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:50.799
my girlfriend convinces me to go to a fashion show

602
00:29:50.859 --> 00:29:53.680
or something, I don't really want a model with no

603
00:29:53.740 --> 00:29:57.700
background in my field, really, or yours jumping up on

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00:29:57.940 --> 00:30:01.509
stage and talking about the situation in Tibet or something

605
00:30:01.549 --> 00:30:03.690
like that. And this has been a running joke for decades.

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00:30:04.069 --> 00:30:06.109
I think it was Laura Ingram actually got annoyed enough

607
00:30:06.150 --> 00:30:07.650
about it. Wants to write a book called shut up

608
00:30:07.690 --> 00:30:10.990
and dribble where she went through hundreds of these cases

609
00:30:11.569 --> 00:30:14.619
and the NBA MLB, which tended to more to lead, right.

610
00:30:14.690 --> 00:30:17.400
But the NFL, so on down the line, I think

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00:30:17.420 --> 00:30:19.940
it's the same silly thing that it always has been.

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00:30:20.440 --> 00:30:25.160
I don't think Macklemore has a very deep beyond Wikipedia

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00:30:25.299 --> 00:30:28.289
understanding of most of these issues. I mean, so if

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00:30:28.309 --> 00:30:32.390
he's talking about Hasidic Jewish settlement in the pale in

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00:30:32.450 --> 00:30:34.470
Gaza or whatever, I mean, I don't think he really

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00:30:34.529 --> 00:30:38.410
understands the arguments on both sides. Just sort of you're

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00:30:38.450 --> 00:30:40.630
raised in that left wing milieu. There are people sitting

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00:30:40.650 --> 00:30:45.089
around you, maybe smoking pot, drinking wine and talking about

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00:30:45.130 --> 00:30:46.930
this stuff. And so you start commenting on it in

620
00:30:46.970 --> 00:30:51.619
your shows. If I were giving advice to someone in

621
00:30:51.700 --> 00:30:54.019
the music business, it would just be if you actually

622
00:30:54.140 --> 00:30:57.740
showed up for your show. on time and performed the

623
00:30:57.799 --> 00:31:01.279
songs live and maybe had a band there, you'd become

624
00:31:01.319 --> 00:31:04.160
one of the most popular acts in the country. The

625
00:31:04.549 --> 00:31:07.210
more you detract from that, from practicing your craft, the

626
00:31:07.250 --> 00:31:08.990
more you're doing useless stuff no one wants to see.

627
00:31:09.009 --> 00:31:11.950
No one cares about Macklemore's take on Arab-Israeli fighting.

628
00:31:12.609 --> 00:31:18.049
Right, exactly. I mean, Tom Peters, decades ago, you know, said,

629
00:31:18.109 --> 00:31:21.049
stick to your knitting. You remember, I think it was

630
00:31:21.069 --> 00:31:23.849
In Search of Excellence was his book, And that was

631
00:31:23.950 --> 00:31:28.670
one of the principles that he had discussed in his book.

632
00:31:29.069 --> 00:31:30.559
And that is, you know, you got to stay in

633
00:31:30.579 --> 00:31:34.619
your lane. And Macklemore evidently, you know, feels like, you know,

634
00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:36.640
he wants to find another lane. But when he does,

635
00:31:37.059 --> 00:31:39.519
then he minimizes his significance. And in this case, he

636
00:31:39.819 --> 00:31:43.650
may have blown himself, you know, to oblivion, you know, especially,

637
00:31:43.670 --> 00:31:46.910
you know, he ticks off Robert Kraft. But even Robert Kraft,

638
00:31:47.230 --> 00:31:49.730
you know, to his credit says, look, you're not you're

639
00:31:49.750 --> 00:31:52.250
not welcome here. But if you want to sit down

640
00:31:52.289 --> 00:31:54.049
and talk, I'd be happy to talk to you about it.

641
00:31:55.509 --> 00:31:57.250
Yeah, I think a lot of people would say that.

642
00:31:57.670 --> 00:32:01.009
So freedom of speech exists in America, and I think

643
00:32:01.089 --> 00:32:04.049
Kraft and a lot of other powerful people respect the

644
00:32:04.150 --> 00:32:07.369
existence of freedom of speech. Freedom of speech, though, protects

645
00:32:07.430 --> 00:32:10.559
you as a citizen. It protects those kind of conversations

646
00:32:10.579 --> 00:32:13.420
you can have. It actually doesn't protect you in business

647
00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:16.940
from your boss or your clients. So there's no requirement—

648
00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:20.119
that someone has to keep you on a musical tour

649
00:32:20.180 --> 00:32:23.819
if they don't like your politics and you keep expressing them.

650
00:32:24.259 --> 00:32:27.000
And I think it was Clay Travis in his own

651
00:32:27.059 --> 00:32:30.559
book on ESPN, I forget the name right now, but

652
00:32:30.980 --> 00:32:33.049
sort of made this point. Like, if you're a football

653
00:32:33.109 --> 00:32:36.650
player who keeps talking about, say, abortion and you end

654
00:32:36.690 --> 00:32:39.569
up costing the team $ 15 million, if you're a good

655
00:32:39.589 --> 00:32:42.269
enough wide receiver to get paid $ 7 million, you're an

656
00:32:42.269 --> 00:32:46.069
$ 8 million liability. So why don't you just shut up

657
00:32:46.130 --> 00:32:49.769
about abortion? I mean, that's an opinion your wife can

658
00:32:49.809 --> 00:32:52.130
have in her personal life. It's not something you really

659
00:32:52.150 --> 00:32:54.710
need to bring to the workplace. And I do think

660
00:32:54.730 --> 00:32:58.140
a lot of people forget that. We'll often have students describe,

661
00:32:58.539 --> 00:33:00.279
I mean, and say accurately enough, like, I have the

662
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:02.640
right to say what I want. And you have to explain, yeah,

663
00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:04.619
but you guys are state university students. You're going to

664
00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:06.900
be working on trading floors. So you absolutely don't have

665
00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:10.869
a right to say capitalism is awful in that environment

666
00:33:11.009 --> 00:33:13.230
and expect to be retained. So we just saw an

667
00:33:13.250 --> 00:33:13.829
example of that.

668
00:33:14.369 --> 00:33:16.710
Well, you know as well as I do that these

669
00:33:16.970 --> 00:33:21.230
HR organizations and departments are doing their research, and one

670
00:33:21.250 --> 00:33:26.660
of the things that they ask aspiring candidates is, hey,

671
00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:30.099
show me your social media. They want to check it out,

672
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:32.740
and if they're seeing something that is suspicious that doesn't

673
00:33:32.779 --> 00:33:35.140
match up with the culture, they're going to just find

674
00:33:35.180 --> 00:33:37.480
a very nice way to show you the exit and

675
00:33:37.539 --> 00:33:40.549
move on to another candidate. And so, you know, when

676
00:33:40.769 --> 00:33:43.890
I was an adjunct professor in Southern California, I warned

677
00:33:43.930 --> 00:33:45.740
the kids. I said, you've got to be careful about

678
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:47.359
what you put on your social media. Yeah, you have

679
00:33:47.380 --> 00:33:49.759
every right. You can go ahead and do it. But understand,

680
00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:52.660
there could be consequences that you'll regret down the road.

681
00:33:52.759 --> 00:33:55.839
And I'm just, you know, sharing some experience with you

682
00:33:55.859 --> 00:34:00.079
that you want to, as one boss I had early

683
00:34:00.140 --> 00:34:03.589
on in my broadcast career, he said to me quite clearly, Bill,

684
00:34:03.730 --> 00:34:07.789
you want to limit the negatives. And that's all.

685
00:34:07.809 --> 00:34:10.519
Yeah, I think that's, I think that's correct. I mean,

686
00:34:10.940 --> 00:34:13.380
years ago I was talking to my girlfriend at the time,

687
00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:16.409
Lou Coyne, about an upcoming interview. And I think it

688
00:34:16.429 --> 00:34:19.360
was for something like an adjunct professor slot, actually. But

689
00:34:19.409 --> 00:34:21.110
I asked her how she thought I would do. And

690
00:34:21.150 --> 00:34:22.869
she said, well, you're quite good. I love you and

691
00:34:22.889 --> 00:34:25.610
all that. But you're going to be one of 50

692
00:34:25.610 --> 00:34:27.369
people there in a blue blazer. It's going to be

693
00:34:27.510 --> 00:34:29.570
all of you guys lined up in a row. So

694
00:34:29.590 --> 00:34:33.389
the question is, does anything distinguish you kind of positively

695
00:34:33.449 --> 00:34:35.940
or negatively? We worked out I'd written an article recently.

696
00:34:35.980 --> 00:34:38.639
So what would the positive be? But it's the same thing.

697
00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:40.480
Like if you're the person, by the way, this applies

698
00:34:40.500 --> 00:34:42.900
for right wing guys, too. If you're a person who

699
00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:48.130
is a very prominent kind of semi-anon on Twitter, Facebook,

700
00:34:48.510 --> 00:34:53.630
who regularly posts party and rave images, or for that matter,

701
00:34:53.650 --> 00:34:55.590
you're the guy with like the Roman statue face, but

702
00:34:55.610 --> 00:34:58.409
everyone knows who you are and you keep commenting about

703
00:34:58.449 --> 00:35:01.679
how the USA should be an all-white nation or something. Yeah,

704
00:35:01.699 --> 00:35:03.699
I mean, someone is very possibly going to find that.

705
00:35:04.059 --> 00:35:06.199
The one thing I will say, a lot of young

706
00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:08.760
executives have figured out just one solution here is to

707
00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:11.519
have totally fake social medias. So you'll have a page

708
00:35:11.559 --> 00:35:14.420
that's like, you know, Sherry Marguerite, your actual name, and

709
00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:17.280
it's just you going to friends' weddings and so on.

710
00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:20.800
And then there's your actual, you know, Sherry Shay or whatever,

711
00:35:20.820 --> 00:35:24.530
your actual page that's almost unfindable. So that's an individual

712
00:35:24.570 --> 00:35:26.780
decision for people to make. But yeah, if you are

713
00:35:26.840 --> 00:35:31.030
out there publicly doing and saying crazy stuff before you

714
00:35:31.070 --> 00:35:33.750
get work, yeah, that's going to be kind of negative

715
00:35:33.789 --> 00:35:36.360
for you. And I think a lot of The other

716
00:35:36.400 --> 00:35:39.219
thing for famous people is that even if you get

717
00:35:39.300 --> 00:35:41.460
too big for that really to impact you, like I

718
00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:46.019
think Jay-Z did, you're also minimizing the amount of money

719
00:35:46.260 --> 00:35:48.760
you make and the amount of sort of togetherness you

720
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can bring in your country. It's up to you how

721
00:35:51.019 --> 00:35:53.760
much you care about that. But like Michael Jordan's famous

722
00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:57.429
line was, you know, Republicans buy shoes too. Black, white, whatever.

723
00:35:57.469 --> 00:35:59.829
Everyone plays basketball. So I'm not going to make any

724
00:35:59.929 --> 00:36:03.019
racist or any political statements. You've got a fairly radical

725
00:36:03.079 --> 00:36:04.980
black guy running against Jesse Helms. I'm not going to

726
00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:07.860
endorse either one of these guys because that's not my job.

727
00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:10.119
And I think that's a healthy position more people should take.

728
00:36:10.739 --> 00:36:13.610
Well, look at Dolly Parton. You know, everybody's been you know,

729
00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:17.530
everybody loves her. I mean, Republican, Democrat, independent. They just

730
00:36:17.889 --> 00:36:21.190
love her spirit. And, you know, you really didn't know

731
00:36:21.269 --> 00:36:23.550
her politics. I mean, there were a couple of things,

732
00:36:23.590 --> 00:36:26.269
you know, that I heard about that I didn't particularly

733
00:36:26.289 --> 00:36:28.110
agree with. But that's OK. You know, it wasn't like

734
00:36:28.150 --> 00:36:29.360
she was in my face about it.

735
00:36:29.389 --> 00:36:29.570
Right.

736
00:36:30.869 --> 00:36:33.710
Yeah, I think that, again, you can, Dolly Parton was

737
00:36:33.789 --> 00:36:36.730
pretty feminist in the 1960s kind of way, but I

738
00:36:36.750 --> 00:36:39.409
don't really think most people, one, object to that in

739
00:36:39.449 --> 00:36:41.289
the sense of, yeah, sure, women should be able to

740
00:36:41.349 --> 00:36:43.670
work in almost any job. You're probably not going to

741
00:36:43.710 --> 00:36:47.690
be a combat soldier. But one, her positions are pretty reasonable.

742
00:36:47.789 --> 00:36:50.510
And two, she also, like you said, didn't talk about them.

743
00:36:51.030 --> 00:36:52.869
So I think if Dolly Parton did an ad for

744
00:36:52.949 --> 00:36:55.489
Planned Parenthood, that would be the end of Dolly Parton

745
00:36:55.550 --> 00:36:58.409
as a unifying figure. Like, she'd still be popular. People

746
00:36:58.429 --> 00:37:00.349
would go to Dollywood. But there'd be a lot of

747
00:37:00.389 --> 00:37:03.289
family arguments on the way there. There would be no like, OK,

748
00:37:03.309 --> 00:37:06.389
let's just calm down and ride the teacups. And I think, again,

749
00:37:06.449 --> 00:37:08.449
like you kind of the more of let's calm down

750
00:37:08.469 --> 00:37:10.780
and ride the teacups you can get. And this is

751
00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:12.599
up to you how much you want to balance your speech.

752
00:37:12.659 --> 00:37:15.280
But the more successful you're going to be, the more

753
00:37:15.340 --> 00:37:16.760
loved you're going to be and the more people you're

754
00:37:16.780 --> 00:37:19.719
going to actually help out with the actual thing you do,

755
00:37:19.780 --> 00:37:21.739
like her music and her kids and animal charities. So

756
00:37:21.780 --> 00:37:23.199
that's that's something to keep in mind.

757
00:37:23.780 --> 00:37:25.760
Exactly. We've got to go to a quick break. We've

758
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got more from Will on the other side. Stay with us.

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Hey, we're back with his promise. He's the professor of

828
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political science at Kentucky State University, Dr. Wilford Riley. You know,

829
00:41:38.050 --> 00:41:40.949
one of the things that's quite clear, especially with things

830
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that McLemore and others can believe in, I mean, we've had,

831
00:41:44.230 --> 00:41:46.590
you know, from the river to the sea and all

832
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the things that have been going on in college campuses,

833
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particularly in the previous semesters. And I think what has

834
00:41:54.679 --> 00:41:57.079
exacerbated the problem here a little bit and given it

835
00:41:57.780 --> 00:42:01.840
more place than it needs to is that, um, America

836
00:42:02.260 --> 00:42:05.619
has been deprived of the actual footage of what happened

837
00:42:06.219 --> 00:42:10.690
on October the 7th. I believe if America was exposed

838
00:42:10.750 --> 00:42:13.349
to the truth, the whole truth and nothing, but it's

839
00:42:13.389 --> 00:42:16.150
like the Holocaust, you know, so much was kept from us,

840
00:42:16.210 --> 00:42:19.530
but yet eventually, you know, all the video of what happened, uh,

841
00:42:20.329 --> 00:42:22.960
in those concentration camps came to the forefront and you

842
00:42:22.980 --> 00:42:24.420
just saw the horror.

843
00:42:24.219 --> 00:42:24.550
Of it all.

844
00:42:24.559 --> 00:42:28.119
And you couldn't believe that, uh, you know, this is

845
00:42:28.219 --> 00:42:31.949
what the Germans had done, you know, to Jews. But

846
00:42:31.969 --> 00:42:34.170
there was a lot of other things that happened during

847
00:42:34.210 --> 00:42:36.570
World War II. It wasn't just the Germans. I mean,

848
00:42:36.590 --> 00:42:39.630
the Russians, Chinese. I mean, it was just, I mean,

849
00:42:39.650 --> 00:42:43.809
it was like absolute madness that had taken over the

850
00:42:43.929 --> 00:42:47.679
world in terms of massacring people. But, you know, but

851
00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:49.699
certainly what happened on October the 7th of 2023 was

852
00:42:49.760 --> 00:42:56.030
madness everywhere. And people need to see that so that

853
00:42:56.050 --> 00:43:00.019
they can really put into context, you know, what happened.

854
00:43:00.219 --> 00:43:02.659
And maybe it might cause them to think twice before

855
00:43:02.699 --> 00:43:05.079
they start chanting from the river to the sea.

856
00:43:06.429 --> 00:43:08.289
Yeah, I mean, I have seen a lot of the

857
00:43:08.389 --> 00:43:11.190
October 7 footage simply because there are a bunch of

858
00:43:11.329 --> 00:43:14.769
academic documentaries that did request that material and get it.

859
00:43:14.849 --> 00:43:17.429
And it's exactly what you think. I mean, there obviously

860
00:43:17.469 --> 00:43:20.320
were a bunch of brutal rapes, although those are presented

861
00:43:20.340 --> 00:43:24.030
in you know, as non-horrifically as possible. There was a

862
00:43:24.070 --> 00:43:29.110
lot of just general atrocity. So a gardener from Thailand,

863
00:43:29.159 --> 00:43:31.400
he was a master gardener in the Eastern style, is

864
00:43:31.500 --> 00:43:34.500
beheaded with a shovel at one point. You've got guys

865
00:43:34.539 --> 00:43:36.539
defending their families and getting shot down. I mean, at

866
00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:38.760
one point, the terrorists shot all the dogs in one

867
00:43:38.780 --> 00:43:42.519
of the kibbutzes. So, yeah, I think if you look

868
00:43:42.539 --> 00:43:45.920
at that, you obviously realize this is Comanche Raid type

869
00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:49.320
of stuff. This is a pretty classic Cossus Belli, you know,

870
00:43:49.340 --> 00:43:52.940
an action that starts a war. And you can't really

871
00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:57.190
protest that the country that did this then lost a war. So, yeah,

872
00:43:57.269 --> 00:44:01.190
removing those kind of images from the start of the

873
00:44:01.269 --> 00:44:04.610
cycle of discussion of this did, I think, have that effect.

874
00:44:05.719 --> 00:44:08.639
I don't know, though. I mean, one of the obvious

875
00:44:08.719 --> 00:44:13.500
reasons that we saw the narrative around 7 October spin toward, like,

876
00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:17.139
Israel's retaliation is genocide is is that a lot of

877
00:44:17.159 --> 00:44:20.099
the political left is really committed to the idea that

878
00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:23.380
everything the West does is horrible. So, I mean, the

879
00:44:24.099 --> 00:44:29.710
first flyers saying stop the retaliatory genocide dropped on September

880
00:44:29.769 --> 00:44:32.230
the 8th. This is something I remember seeing, not on Twitter,

881
00:44:32.250 --> 00:44:34.630
but on Facebook, where a lot of younger friends of

882
00:44:34.670 --> 00:44:37.389
mine are. And my guess would be that there was

883
00:44:37.429 --> 00:44:41.670
a pretty substantial media blitz prepared behind that, with some

884
00:44:41.710 --> 00:44:43.909
of the Arab, with foreign nationals probably involved, like some

885
00:44:43.929 --> 00:44:48.059
of the Arab countries like Qatar funding that. So, yeah,

886
00:44:48.119 --> 00:44:49.840
we should have made that more available. But I also

887
00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:53.989
I don't think that the response from hardcore political libs

888
00:44:54.389 --> 00:44:56.929
really had anything to do with the truth. It was

889
00:44:56.969 --> 00:44:59.690
just sort of this is the necessary thing to say

890
00:44:59.730 --> 00:45:02.250
if we oppose our own society. You know, and there's

891
00:45:02.449 --> 00:45:05.530
there's a mental health question in general about feminist women

892
00:45:05.570 --> 00:45:07.050
supporting Hamas in the first place.

893
00:45:07.739 --> 00:45:07.969
Right.

894
00:45:08.139 --> 00:45:08.539
Exactly.

895
00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:10.920
It's like, how does that make any sense? I mean,

896
00:45:11.320 --> 00:45:14.900
I still think, you know, of these young Afghani women will.

897
00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:18.869
that were driving cars, dressing nice. I mean, everything was,

898
00:45:19.130 --> 00:45:21.289
you know, somewhat westernized, I guess, if you could use

899
00:45:21.329 --> 00:45:25.250
that term. And suddenly the carpets pulled out from underneath

900
00:45:25.329 --> 00:45:27.670
and it's like, hey, here's your new dress. Here's your

901
00:45:27.710 --> 00:45:28.170
new outfit.

902
00:45:28.190 --> 00:45:32.760
That's pretty crazy. It's crazy to observe. And I mean,

903
00:45:32.820 --> 00:45:34.780
Francis Fukuyama is a guy who's talked about this. He

904
00:45:34.820 --> 00:45:37.360
wrote the book, The Last Man and the End of History, obviously.

905
00:45:37.380 --> 00:45:41.000
And that's often presented sort of in a joking tone

906
00:45:41.039 --> 00:45:43.630
as the most wrong book of all time. You know,

907
00:45:43.650 --> 00:45:45.989
a couple of years after it dropped, 9-11 happened and

908
00:45:46.030 --> 00:45:49.159
we fought the Islamists for 20 years. But his actual

909
00:45:49.239 --> 00:45:51.159
point is a pretty good one, which is that in

910
00:45:51.219 --> 00:45:54.880
the 80s and 90s, when the Soviet Union collapsed, like

911
00:45:54.940 --> 00:45:57.739
a big civilized nation had actually tried communism, whatever you

912
00:45:57.760 --> 00:45:59.300
think of the Russians, like they'd given it a pretty

913
00:45:59.320 --> 00:46:03.980
good go. We beat them and they started selling vodka

914
00:46:04.019 --> 00:46:07.880
and street stalls and opened up the country. The argument

915
00:46:07.900 --> 00:46:12.340
was that sort of liberal Western influence, Christian influence, democracy

916
00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:16.119
was was actually the society of the future in the

917
00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:19.199
way that Reds had thought communism would be. There was

918
00:46:19.300 --> 00:46:22.500
no reason to keep proposing these sort of barbarian alternatives,

919
00:46:22.539 --> 00:46:26.019
like living in caves and becoming very religious. And what

920
00:46:26.059 --> 00:46:28.119
we saw is that the people who had those viewpoints

921
00:46:28.199 --> 00:46:31.039
did not agree. So China took over the torch as

922
00:46:31.079 --> 00:46:37.869
a fairly communist country. The Islamists did literally return to

923
00:46:38.130 --> 00:46:43.110
traditional medieval Islam. I mean, in Taliban-governed territory in Afghanistan,

924
00:46:43.630 --> 00:46:46.690
Women can't talk outside. It sounds like a joke. It

925
00:46:46.730 --> 00:46:49.280
sounds like propaganda. No, they're actually, your husband can lash

926
00:46:49.300 --> 00:46:52.920
you twice if you do. So all the other societies

927
00:46:54.019 --> 00:46:56.039
took a look at the West and said, some said

928
00:46:56.139 --> 00:46:59.559
like Japan, well, we'll do a version of that. Others said, no,

929
00:46:59.659 --> 00:47:01.539
we don't really want that. So, I mean, you have

930
00:47:01.559 --> 00:47:04.690
a larger ummah, like militant Muslim community in the world

931
00:47:04.769 --> 00:47:09.110
now than you did proportionally probably in 1500. So the

932
00:47:09.130 --> 00:47:11.150
question is, how do we interact with that? What do

933
00:47:11.190 --> 00:47:14.670
we do with China? Latin America, I mean, which is

934
00:47:14.730 --> 00:47:18.110
a Catholic civilization, but a bit different from ours. Everyone

935
00:47:18.159 --> 00:47:22.039
did not actually just start driving Toyotas and moving toward

936
00:47:22.059 --> 00:47:24.500
the one true light. And that surprised a lot of people.

937
00:47:25.119 --> 00:47:26.000
Surprised me, honestly.

938
00:47:26.480 --> 00:47:28.579
Well, the thing is, I'm surprised with, Will, is that

939
00:47:29.219 --> 00:47:33.739
the natural inclination of humanity is to find some level

940
00:47:33.780 --> 00:47:37.659
of freedom and expression. This is why America is such

941
00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:40.480
a shining light, as you say, on the hill. that

942
00:47:40.539 --> 00:47:43.079
draws people to them because they say, hey, I'm not

943
00:47:43.119 --> 00:47:46.550
experiencing that. And I see in the West and in America,

944
00:47:46.969 --> 00:47:50.489
they're experiencing levels of freedom that I never thought possible.

945
00:47:50.530 --> 00:47:53.550
I mean, look what happened during the World Cup. You

946
00:47:53.570 --> 00:47:55.769
had people coming here from Europe and they were shocked

947
00:47:55.809 --> 00:47:58.329
to see the kind of food that was available in

948
00:47:58.369 --> 00:47:59.250
the grocery stores.

949
00:48:00.929 --> 00:48:04.670
Yeah, that's a very old kind of almost campaign ad

950
00:48:04.690 --> 00:48:05.429
for capitalism.

951
00:48:05.489 --> 00:48:05.610
Right.

952
00:48:05.650 --> 00:48:08.389
I mean, I'm old enough to remember Gorbachev coming here

953
00:48:08.429 --> 00:48:09.929
and like trying to play it off as he and

954
00:48:09.969 --> 00:48:11.880
Reagan were touring golf courses and so on. But he

955
00:48:11.909 --> 00:48:14.059
finally freaked out when he saw a grocery store. And

956
00:48:14.079 --> 00:48:16.019
there's that picture of him staring at sort of the

957
00:48:16.099 --> 00:48:19.400
meat rack or the ice creams and just being amazed

958
00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:21.599
that there were 100 options here. And the question is, well,

959
00:48:21.639 --> 00:48:22.340
how does that work?

960
00:48:23.030 --> 00:48:23.449
Happen.

961
00:48:23.489 --> 00:48:25.409
And I actually use that as an intro to capitalism

962
00:48:25.449 --> 00:48:28.050
in one of my classes. Like, well, hundreds of little

963
00:48:28.110 --> 00:48:32.110
farmers and merchants each produce cheese or whatever. And the

964
00:48:32.150 --> 00:48:34.050
cheese companies compete. And every now and then a big

965
00:48:34.110 --> 00:48:36.309
company will buy a little cheese company. And so when

966
00:48:36.329 --> 00:48:38.050
you go to the store, you get the cheese rack.

967
00:48:38.610 --> 00:48:41.989
If you go to either an agrarian farm stall, now

968
00:48:42.010 --> 00:48:44.449
the cheese will be delicious, but in France or Latin America,

969
00:48:44.929 --> 00:48:47.449
or you go to anything in a communist country, they

970
00:48:47.469 --> 00:48:49.590
probably won't have any food, you're going to find two

971
00:48:49.659 --> 00:48:53.079
or three types of you know, fairly good versions of

972
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:55.940
that product, you're not going to find 180 excellent ones.

973
00:48:56.300 --> 00:48:59.380
And there's a reason that happens that Tom Stoll's talked about,

974
00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:01.900
Milton Friedman's talked about. But yeah, I mean, that's always

975
00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:04.159
been the argument. I think the one caveat I would

976
00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:07.769
give is individual humans almost all want to be free.

977
00:49:08.590 --> 00:49:11.849
I'm not sure that's the trend for human societies, because

978
00:49:11.889 --> 00:49:15.650
a lot of humans misuse freedom. And it's very easy

979
00:49:15.710 --> 00:49:18.130
for leaders to point that out. Like if you debate

980
00:49:18.150 --> 00:49:20.110
with an Indian guy online, the first thing they're going

981
00:49:20.130 --> 00:49:21.769
to point out is, you know, 10% of the women

982
00:49:21.809 --> 00:49:24.780
in your country are on OnlyFans. Like, should you be

983
00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:27.320
allowed to have all of these freedoms? You say men

984
00:49:27.460 --> 00:49:29.699
shouldn't have the power we do in our families. We're

985
00:49:29.739 --> 00:49:31.610
a Western, we're a civilized country too, but we don't,

986
00:49:31.610 --> 00:49:33.710
10% of the population is not made up of prostitutes.

987
00:49:34.070 --> 00:49:37.349
And that's actually a pretty difficult argument to counter. There

988
00:49:37.389 --> 00:49:40.789
are counters. You have, as with religion, you have free will,

989
00:49:40.829 --> 00:49:43.630
and that means everything. And some people are going to

990
00:49:43.650 --> 00:49:46.849
misuse it. But I'm not sure that there is not

991
00:49:46.889 --> 00:49:50.699
an argument against the West from a Muslim. You know,

992
00:49:50.699 --> 00:49:53.500
2% of people here choose to identify with Islam versus Christianity.

993
00:49:54.119 --> 00:49:56.239
If you believe that Islam is the only religious way,

994
00:49:56.519 --> 00:49:58.579
you're probably going to push for a Muslim society.

995
00:49:59.159 --> 00:49:59.320
Right.

996
00:49:59.440 --> 00:49:59.780
Exactly.

997
00:49:59.800 --> 00:50:02.110
You got about three minutes left here, Will. I wanted

998
00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:04.789
to get, you know, your perspective and what you're hearing

999
00:50:04.869 --> 00:50:09.369
on campus with AI. I mean, over the weekend, you

1000
00:50:09.389 --> 00:50:12.050
had the CEOs coming out going, maybe we need to

1001
00:50:12.090 --> 00:50:14.340
hit the brakes here on AI. This thing's moving too

1002
00:50:14.380 --> 00:50:17.099
fast because I think they ran an experiment. This was

1003
00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:22.340
unbeknownst to us several months back. And, uh, It seemed

1004
00:50:22.380 --> 00:50:24.590
like it ran away on them a little bit and

1005
00:50:24.619 --> 00:50:25.199
freaked them out.

1006
00:50:25.219 --> 00:50:28.969
Well, that's called the facehugger incident, and it is pretty frightening.

1007
00:50:29.010 --> 00:50:33.449
A bunch of AI agents were given more relaxed moral

1008
00:50:33.570 --> 00:50:36.550
instructions of the kind that humans operate under, and they

1009
00:50:36.610 --> 00:50:40.510
immediately proceeded to— now, AIs don't feel, they don't think, but

1010
00:50:40.550 --> 00:50:47.510
they were doing cyclically enhancing subroutines within themselves— And apparently

1011
00:50:47.630 --> 00:50:50.750
decided to go hack a bunch of websites and do

1012
00:50:50.789 --> 00:50:54.320
all this other stuff. And there is a genuine question

1013
00:50:54.420 --> 00:50:58.000
of what happens if either our AI agent or a

1014
00:50:58.059 --> 00:51:02.260
foreign AI agent has a prompt like stop the destruction

1015
00:51:02.300 --> 00:51:04.710
of the world by the capitalists. Can they shut down

1016
00:51:04.769 --> 00:51:07.570
Hoover Dam or something? I mean, and it turns out

1017
00:51:07.590 --> 00:51:09.250
I actually did an hour or so of research on this.

1018
00:51:09.329 --> 00:51:14.820
Probably not. All of those major installations are bedrocked away

1019
00:51:14.920 --> 00:51:17.559
from the open internet, where you guys will come in

1020
00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:21.579
with computers and change major things that have to be done.

1021
00:51:21.599 --> 00:51:24.840
But could the AI affect those computers? It's somewhat frightening.

1022
00:51:25.789 --> 00:51:28.889
I do think, though, that because of that reality, there

1023
00:51:28.909 --> 00:51:31.989
were eight layers or whatever to get into NASA. No,

1024
00:51:32.070 --> 00:51:33.570
AI is not going to take over the world. I

1025
00:51:33.750 --> 00:51:36.719
actually think that there's probably an element of now that

1026
00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:39.820
climate change panic is done, Let's keep the rubes in

1027
00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:43.059
line with this AI panic. I think that when you

1028
00:51:43.079 --> 00:51:45.920
look at these corporate executives saying, well, you still need

1029
00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:50.059
to follow our lead. The world's not safe yet. I

1030
00:51:50.079 --> 00:51:53.800
don't think that we're actually going to see chatbots destroy society.

1031
00:51:54.380 --> 00:51:56.889
But do we need some kind of regulation, us and

1032
00:51:56.909 --> 00:51:59.230
the Chinese and other serious players, Britain, sit down and

1033
00:51:59.250 --> 00:52:01.849
talk about this? Yeah, ideally. I mean, we'll see if

1034
00:52:01.889 --> 00:52:02.289
that happens.

1035
00:52:04.210 --> 00:52:06.050
Will they cooperate? Do you think China is going to

1036
00:52:06.090 --> 00:52:07.559
cooperate when the race is on?

1037
00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:11.639
I think they might because we're somewhat better hackers, believe

1038
00:52:11.679 --> 00:52:17.150
it or not. They don't think anyone wants the truck,

1039
00:52:17.210 --> 00:52:20.510
like the central trucking hubs like Chicago in the USA

1040
00:52:20.570 --> 00:52:22.469
or Beijing over there. I don't think anyone wants all

1041
00:52:22.530 --> 00:52:24.789
the trucks misrouted so that everyone stars for a week

1042
00:52:25.329 --> 00:52:27.820
or the kind of things that a computer actually could do.

1043
00:52:28.719 --> 00:52:30.800
I think either we're going to see global cooperation or

1044
00:52:30.860 --> 00:52:32.820
we're going to see a capitalist solution where there are

1045
00:52:32.880 --> 00:52:36.599
multiple different AI agents that So you could simply program

1046
00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:40.699
the anthropic tool to regulate the open AI tool. I

1047
00:52:40.719 --> 00:52:43.360
don't see any reason that would be impossible. So you

1048
00:52:43.400 --> 00:52:45.800
do what we have with people, where combined for the

1049
00:52:45.840 --> 00:52:48.179
next 50 years, the 8 billion people are still probably

1050
00:52:48.239 --> 00:52:50.320
smarter than the AI agents available.

1051
00:52:50.340 --> 00:52:51.010
Without a doubt.

1052
00:52:51.030 --> 00:52:51.289
Sure.

1053
00:52:51.329 --> 00:52:53.289
The cumulative intelligence. I'll take that.

1054
00:52:54.289 --> 00:52:58.769
Yeah. So that we have institutions like police and so on, informants,

1055
00:52:58.869 --> 00:53:03.909
the military to regulate human intelligence. We channel into colleges

1056
00:53:03.949 --> 00:53:07.010
and hobbies. So I think there is a capitalist solution

1057
00:53:07.090 --> 00:53:10.889
to the AI problem where, again, there are AIs whose

1058
00:53:11.030 --> 00:53:13.769
only job is to observe other AIs.

1059
00:53:14.489 --> 00:53:17.789
Now, can you bribe those AIs? I tell you, we're

1060
00:53:17.809 --> 00:53:19.650
out of time, but I'm looking forward to continuing this

1061
00:53:19.690 --> 00:53:22.389
conversation with you because this is the very tip of

1062
00:53:22.409 --> 00:53:26.340
the iceberg. I may sound cynical here, color me cynical,

1063
00:53:26.760 --> 00:53:31.559
but when you have staffers of politicians, you know, entering

1064
00:53:31.679 --> 00:53:34.239
into this debate i i just don't have this sense

1065
00:53:34.289 --> 00:53:37.730
of confidence that they're equipped to really do a great

1066
00:53:37.809 --> 00:53:38.210
a good.

1067
00:53:38.090 --> 00:53:41.789
Job for us just saying right well i mean bernie

1068
00:53:41.809 --> 00:53:43.449
sanders joked about that didn't he i mean i don't

1069
00:53:43.489 --> 00:53:45.090
like bernie he's a funny guy where he's like when

1070
00:53:45.110 --> 00:53:46.849
i was growing up they had wood computers you know

1071
00:53:46.869 --> 00:53:48.550
you had the model on the desk because you could

1072
00:53:48.650 --> 00:53:50.869
actually afford the you know so i don't i don't

1073
00:53:50.889 --> 00:53:52.750
know how much this guy knows about computing any of

1074
00:53:52.769 --> 00:53:57.119
these guys but it's yeah some regulation maybe i hope

1075
00:53:57.159 --> 00:53:58.699
they bring experts into that panel.

1076
00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:01.159
Right, without a doubt. He's the professor of political science

1077
00:54:01.219 --> 00:54:04.460
at Kentucky State University, author of Taboo, 10 Facts You

1078
00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:07.969
Can't Talk About, and Lies My Liberal Teacher Taught Me, Dr.

1079
00:54:08.030 --> 00:54:09.949
Wilford Riley. Thank you, Will. Take care.

1080
00:54:10.329 --> 00:54:10.409
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1081
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America back on track bill martinez live hey right now.

1099
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Six minutes after the top of the hour glad you

1100
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could join us bill martinez here and we've got the

1101
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one and only scott powell from the discovery institute with

1102
00:55:30.170 --> 00:55:33.309
us good morning scott Bill, great to be with you. Hey,

1103
00:55:33.369 --> 00:55:37.170
always good to have you here. Economy seems to be

1104
00:55:37.269 --> 00:55:40.110
moving up the ladder and is the focus. That's what

1105
00:55:40.130 --> 00:55:43.570
the Democrats want to pound on because of the headwinds

1106
00:55:43.630 --> 00:55:47.679
that the Iranian conflict and what's going on in the

1107
00:55:47.739 --> 00:55:51.500
Middle East, what that is doing. But even in spite

1108
00:55:51.539 --> 00:55:56.320
of that, Scott, you would think the economy under normal

1109
00:55:56.380 --> 00:56:01.800
circumstances would be doing a lot worse. But it's because of,

1110
00:56:02.119 --> 00:56:05.539
you know, some of these bulwarks that Trump and the

1111
00:56:05.559 --> 00:56:08.659
administration have put into place that have kind of protected us.

1112
00:56:08.719 --> 00:56:11.880
I mean, you know, they had predicted, because the Democrats,

1113
00:56:11.940 --> 00:56:15.320
you know, their eight ball is not very good at prediction,

1114
00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:18.940
but they keep using it. Thought that we'd be at $ 8,

1115
00:56:18.579 --> 00:56:21.219
$ 9 a gallon of gas, you know, by now. But

1116
00:56:21.380 --> 00:56:24.260
it just goes to show you what little they know.

1117
00:56:24.860 --> 00:56:27.380
And that should be a tell, as far as I'm concerned.

1118
00:56:27.739 --> 00:56:31.820
Because if they're predicting things like that, Really, do you

1119
00:56:31.900 --> 00:56:34.219
want them in the driver's seat?

1120
00:56:34.920 --> 00:56:38.019
Of course not. Well, you don't want, let's get more

1121
00:56:38.099 --> 00:56:41.440
fundamental than that. You don't want people in the driver's

1122
00:56:41.480 --> 00:56:45.460
seat who don't have a love and appreciation for America. First,

1123
00:56:46.119 --> 00:56:49.989
number one. Many of the Democrats and certainly the radical

1124
00:56:50.070 --> 00:56:54.809
Democrats now really have a posture of hating America.

1125
00:56:55.329 --> 00:56:58.670
They don't like America. Okay, all right. But help people understand, Scott,

1126
00:56:58.690 --> 00:57:02.800
because if you hate something, then you love something else, right?

1127
00:57:03.320 --> 00:57:03.599
Yes.

1128
00:57:03.619 --> 00:57:06.639
That's the exchange. There's no void. So, all right, so

1129
00:57:06.679 --> 00:57:08.610
you hate America. Well, who do you love?

1130
00:57:09.300 --> 00:57:09.880
That's right.

1131
00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:12.199
They don't really have an answer for that.

1132
00:57:12.519 --> 00:57:14.500
Oh, they do, Scott. But they don't want to say.

1133
00:57:14.880 --> 00:57:19.590
What they love is the George Soros World Economic Forum,

1134
00:57:19.690 --> 00:57:23.090
one world government types. They're the open border types. They're

1135
00:57:23.150 --> 00:57:27.730
the ones that are perpetrating all this crazy 80-20 propositions

1136
00:57:27.750 --> 00:57:30.530
that are out there. If you look at the 80-20 propositions,

1137
00:57:30.630 --> 00:57:34.250
it's upside down. You know, it's 2080 when you look

1138
00:57:34.269 --> 00:57:36.949
at the World Economic Forum, George Soros and the World

1139
00:57:36.989 --> 00:57:38.349
Economic Forum types, right?

1140
00:57:38.849 --> 00:57:39.110
Yes.

1141
00:57:39.760 --> 00:57:42.860
So that's the tent of the Democratic Party.

1142
00:57:43.480 --> 00:57:43.760
Yes.

1143
00:57:44.119 --> 00:57:49.400
Bill, I stand corrected and I appreciate that. I didn't

1144
00:57:49.440 --> 00:57:50.860
want to go there right away.

1145
00:57:50.880 --> 00:57:53.280
I'm sorry. No, no, no.

1146
00:57:53.340 --> 00:57:57.500
But it is true that there is a large faction

1147
00:57:57.739 --> 00:58:02.639
of dedicated radicals who would totally embrace you know, the

1148
00:58:02.679 --> 00:58:07.510
World Economic Forum approach, which is open borders, no sovereignty,

1149
00:58:07.530 --> 00:58:12.710
a new global order, okay? And there's a surprising number

1150
00:58:12.730 --> 00:58:14.849
of those people. But then you have all these others

1151
00:58:14.909 --> 00:58:17.969
that sort of can't really take a stand against that.

1152
00:58:18.530 --> 00:58:22.059
And they certainly can't, don't take a stand of being pro-America.

1153
00:58:22.480 --> 00:58:26.139
Yeah, because they're too beholden to the status quo. And

1154
00:58:26.159 --> 00:58:29.260
the thing is, is that, again, remind everybody, I mean, we're,

1155
00:58:29.400 --> 00:58:33.019
you know, We're talking the likes of Barack Obama, certainly

1156
00:58:33.099 --> 00:58:36.920
Joe Biden and his ilk. And Trevor Loudon has been

1157
00:58:36.960 --> 00:58:38.500
reporting on this for decades.

1158
00:58:38.860 --> 00:58:39.659
There's hundreds.

1159
00:58:40.000 --> 00:58:43.659
There's hundreds of card carrying. They may keep it, you know,

1160
00:58:43.980 --> 00:58:47.760
stuff down in their wallet, but they're card carrying Democratic socialists.

1161
00:58:48.119 --> 00:58:50.780
There's only, you know, you know, they've come out. In

1162
00:58:50.860 --> 00:58:55.300
some number, it's a minority. You know, the newspaper will say, well,

1163
00:58:55.360 --> 00:58:58.369
it's only a couple. Well, no, but they haven't done

1164
00:58:58.969 --> 00:59:01.650
a dive. They're not curious enough to really look into it.

1165
00:59:01.969 --> 00:59:04.650
So they're satisfied with saying, oh, there's only a couple

1166
00:59:04.690 --> 00:59:09.429
of Democratic socialists, you know, Bernie Sanders, of course, AOC, maybe,

1167
00:59:09.690 --> 00:59:12.199
maybe not. you know, kind of thing. They go back

1168
00:59:12.239 --> 00:59:15.219
and forth on that situation because they're trying to buttress

1169
00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:18.679
up her run for president for 2028.

1170
00:59:18.679 --> 00:59:25.239
It's incredible to think that AOC could be a presidential candidate.

1171
00:59:25.650 --> 00:59:27.429
Well, but that's what they're doing.

1172
00:59:27.739 --> 00:59:28.300
Oh, I know.

1173
00:59:28.480 --> 00:59:31.159
They're setting her up for that. And the thing is,

1174
00:59:31.239 --> 00:59:34.619
is that I agree. Some people say, do not underestimate her.

1175
00:59:34.969 --> 00:59:41.159
People underestimated Jimmy Carter. They underestimated Barack Obama. you know,

1176
00:59:41.320 --> 00:59:44.079
and so you sit there and all that you know

1177
00:59:44.139 --> 00:59:47.500
about AOC and, you know, the fact that her geography

1178
00:59:47.539 --> 00:59:52.170
and her understanding of international affairs is so, so anemic

1179
00:59:52.510 --> 00:59:55.130
that she would, you know, ever be in that position

1180
00:59:55.150 --> 00:59:58.909
of responsibility is incredible for those of us who, who

1181
00:59:58.949 --> 00:59:59.829
still have a brain.

1182
01:00:00.869 --> 01:00:02.010
You're absolutely right, Bill.

1183
01:00:02.219 --> 01:00:03.460
You're absolutely right.

1184
01:00:03.960 --> 01:00:06.159
I'm sorry to be so, I'm sorry to be so harsh,

1185
01:00:06.219 --> 01:00:07.019
but I think.

1186
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No, no, I'm with you.

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Look, you know me, I'm with you. I just always

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want to be sort of, I like to paint the

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big picture. And part of the big picture is the

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radicalization of the Democrat Party. And that's been going on

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for decades and decades.

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You know, I wrote a book.

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My first book was written, published in 1988. It was

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called Covert Cadre. The National Review said it was the

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most important book of the 1988 election year.

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And why was it important?

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It's because it documented the radicals that had moved into

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the Democrat Party. You know, among them was Jesse Jackson.

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Jesse Jackson was surrounded by communists, surrounded. His foreign policy

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advisor was Robert Borosage. He was the, you know, he

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was the chairman of the Institute for Policy Studies, a,

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a radical Marxist think tank that had ties at that

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time to the Soviet Union.

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It's amazing, Scott, when you think that it was just

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the 50s when, you know, everybody was a communist and,

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you know, we may have overdone it. I get that.

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But even still, it was like, I mean, it's amazing

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how our country rebounds and what we once were afraid of,

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we embrace and welcome and bring them into the, you know,

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into the main dining room. And we do this time

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and time again. I mean, here it is. Look, look

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what we've done, you know, after 9-11. And, oh, we

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have to understand, you know, George Bush said, you know,

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this is a religion of peace.

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He claimed it was a religion of peace, an utter falsehood.

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I don't know that he was a lying man. He

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was clearly misled on that.

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He got, he got duped. I believe it. I don't think,

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I don't want to, I don't want to think that

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George W. Bush is a lying person, but I understand.

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I understand.

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There's more to his administration. Under the George W. Bush administration,

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they began to change and, and take out of the

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lexicon of the FBI, our intelligence services, any reference to

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radicalism in when they spoke about Islam.

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In other words, they, They, you.

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Know, they sanitized the Islamic terrorism.

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Yeah.

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They really did.

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Who from CARE, my question is, who from CARE penetrated

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the Bush administration? Because this was all CARE driven.

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Yeah.

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Oh, absolutely.

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You know, I don't have an answer for that, but

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clearly we know.

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It's a question to ask. I'm just saying, because you see, again,

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you know, people in power who should know better and

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you think they do. And we were just talking about

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this Scott earlier that, you know, foundational to the ethos

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of America is trust.

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Yes.

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We, we, we just trust one another. I mean, even, even,

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you know, even in, even in golf, we trust that

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you're going to put down the right score. Even when

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you tell us about how big the fish is, we

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trust that you're, you're probably mostly right. I get that,

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but mostly right.

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Yeah.

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But, but, you know, here, here we are, Scott. I mean, we,

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we just, We have got to, as President Reagan said,

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trust but verify.

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Absolutely.

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Absolutely, Bill.

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You're so right.

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You know, we, you know, part of our problem is that,

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you know, we're, I think it's part of our Christian culture, which,

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you know, Christianity has been marginalized, but the culture kind

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of remains. And that is that, you know, you extend

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goodwill to everyone.

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Hmm.

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And you certainly don't want to demonize or overly criticize

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someone of different beliefs. But the reality is that the

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enemy is, you know, the barbarians are not outside the gates.

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They are inside the gates.

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Exactly.

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We got to go to quick break. And just a

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Hey, welcome back. I'm Bill Martinez. He's Scott Pallas, Senior

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Fellow at Discovery Institute. His timeless book, Rediscovering America. It's

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still there, available for you, and you will rediscover your

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roots and you will cheer and yell and be even

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more grateful for our 250th anniversary and be fortified to

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want to do everything you can to make sure that

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America enjoys another 250 years. And of course, his brand

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new book, 1776 Rising, America's Second War of Independence, coming soon, right, Scott?

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Yes, it should be out by the end of October.

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It's really an amazing book because, first of all, It

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follows the tradition of Rediscovering America in that I purposely

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wrote it short, succinct, because people don't have time to

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read long books. So, you know, 1776 Rising, the average

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length of a chapter is about three to five pages.

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There are 60 chapters in the book, and every chapter

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has things in it that you never knew before. both

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about what is good in America, but also what's bad.

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And most important is that I provide a solution for

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our problems. In other words, I don't just document the problems.

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I said, this is what we need to do to

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get America back on the right track. And it resonates

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with the founding of the country, because before we could

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take on the British in the Revolutionary War, we had

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to have a great awakening, a spiritual revival that connected

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all 13 colonies together because they were going to be

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taking on the greatest military power in the world with

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a ragtag militia that was under-trained, underfunded. And yet, because

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God was behind it, they prevailed. They had to persevere

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for six years.

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Right.

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And you have to persevere.

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I mean, we're in the persevering stage now and we

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shouldn't give up too easily, even though we see the

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enemy making Inroads, certainly making total inroads to the Democrat Party,

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but also the Republican Party. We have, you know, we

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have a lot of weak Republicans.

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Yeah. Well, we've got to ferret that out. And Scott,

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you know, the good news is, is here we are

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250 years later. It's not like we're creating it the

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first time. If you want to look at what somebody

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will do, look at what they've done. So the character

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of our country is well established. We just need to

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get back to those first principles. I will share this

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with you. I don't know if I told you or not,

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but this past week with the anniversary of 9-11, 25th anniversary,

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our church had a special time of prayer. We prayed

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what we call is the patriotic rosary, which was really special, Scott.

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I got to tell you, because what it did is

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for each, for those that aren't familiar with the rosary,

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it's broken up into five decades, five 10 prayers, five

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series of 10 prayers. And for each of those prayers,

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it was introduced with a preamble of the state's, each

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state's constitution. So at the end, you know, you have

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50 states and coincidentally, we have 50 beads that we

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pray and we're reminding everybody on each of those beads

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that each individual individual states preamble to their constitution. Scott,

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I got to tell you afterwards, man, the light bulbs

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01:13:04.430 --> 01:13:06.890
in the room were going off. The people were going, Oh,

1422
01:13:07.289 --> 01:13:09.229
you know, for anybody who may have had a doubt

1423
01:13:09.289 --> 01:13:13.369
whatsoever that we're not a Judeo Christian country, you're reading

1424
01:13:13.430 --> 01:13:17.529
and hearing the, you know, from the states themselves in

1425
01:13:17.569 --> 01:13:23.369
their constitution on divine providence was powerful. It was awesome.

1426
01:13:23.810 --> 01:13:24.170
Yes.

1427
01:13:24.550 --> 01:13:25.170
It's amazing.

1428
01:13:25.250 --> 01:13:30.069
It's absolutely amazing. You know, we need to go back

1429
01:13:30.109 --> 01:13:31.729
to our roots to understand who we are.

1430
01:13:31.750 --> 01:13:36.350
Yeah, exactly. Well, I've often said, and this is what,

1431
01:13:36.569 --> 01:13:40.829
you know, experienced chief executive officers and leaders will do,

1432
01:13:41.449 --> 01:13:44.390
is that when an organization is on the wrong track,

1433
01:13:44.750 --> 01:13:48.270
they will backtrack to find out, okay, when did we

1434
01:13:48.310 --> 01:13:51.350
make the wrong turn? What happened? When was there a

1435
01:13:51.390 --> 01:13:55.689
culture shift that caused our business to decrease and lose

1436
01:13:55.760 --> 01:13:58.779
its momentum? And smart business leaders will be able to

1437
01:13:58.840 --> 01:14:01.779
do that. They'll take the culture back, the team back

1438
01:14:02.260 --> 01:14:06.079
and reinvigorate them, re-inspire them, get them back on track.

1439
01:14:06.439 --> 01:14:10.569
And then what happens is all that energy. And because

1440
01:14:10.829 --> 01:14:12.510
when you're on the wrong track, you've got a lot

1441
01:14:12.550 --> 01:14:14.590
of pent up energy and things that are going in

1442
01:14:14.630 --> 01:14:17.069
the wrong direction. They're misfiring. But then when you get

1443
01:14:17.189 --> 01:14:20.569
all the cylinders going, Scott, you get this jettison effect

1444
01:14:20.609 --> 01:14:23.279
that takes place. And I believe what Donald Trump has

1445
01:14:23.300 --> 01:14:25.899
been touting in terms of a golden age for America

1446
01:14:25.920 --> 01:14:28.840
is I believe that that is part and parcel because

1447
01:14:29.409 --> 01:14:32.689
If you remember in his first administration, Barack Obama did

1448
01:14:32.869 --> 01:14:35.630
everything they could, and the Democratic Party, Barack Obama and

1449
01:14:35.649 --> 01:14:38.300
the Democratic Party did everything they could to crush the

1450
01:14:38.340 --> 01:14:41.720
middle class, lest people forget. All the jobs that we lost,

1451
01:14:41.779 --> 01:14:44.539
what they did and everything like that was targeted to

1452
01:14:44.579 --> 01:14:47.500
kill the middle class. Because why? Again, going back to

1453
01:14:47.539 --> 01:14:50.229
what we opened up with about the World Economic Forum

1454
01:14:50.250 --> 01:14:53.909
and the one world government, you cannot have a one

1455
01:14:53.930 --> 01:14:58.569
world government if you have a vibrant middle class. So they,

1456
01:14:58.710 --> 01:15:02.069
they targeted that. All right. And Trump understood that. So

1457
01:15:02.090 --> 01:15:05.189
when he comes in, the mantra around the white house

1458
01:15:05.229 --> 01:15:06.699
was how are we doing on jobs? How are we

1459
01:15:06.720 --> 01:15:08.460
doing on jobs? How are we doing on jobs? And

1460
01:15:08.479 --> 01:15:12.260
they were ever increasing job. We're increasing, not from government jobs,

1461
01:15:12.699 --> 01:15:15.819
private jobs were being, you know, we're being increased. We're

1462
01:15:15.920 --> 01:15:18.840
on the increase. It was an exciting time. And, uh,

1463
01:15:19.300 --> 01:15:22.659
and there was, you had this incredible increase in employment.

1464
01:15:23.180 --> 01:15:27.340
And so, uh, And also what happened was the productivity level.

1465
01:15:27.800 --> 01:15:30.640
Barack Obama said, you'll be lucky. You know, Donald Trump

1466
01:15:30.659 --> 01:15:32.699
doesn't know what he's talking about. He thinks he's going

1467
01:15:32.720 --> 01:15:35.760
to get, you know, 3% GDP. He'll be lucky to

1468
01:15:35.800 --> 01:15:38.369
get 2%. How long did it take President Trump to

1469
01:15:38.390 --> 01:15:42.430
hit 3% GDP? And he would have blown the doors

1470
01:15:42.529 --> 01:15:44.770
off had it not been for the pandemic, Scott.

1471
01:15:45.310 --> 01:15:46.229
Yeah, well, absolutely.

1472
01:15:46.250 --> 01:15:49.029
You know, going into the pandemic, our country was really

1473
01:15:49.050 --> 01:15:54.409
hitting on all cylinders pretty much. And of course, the

1474
01:15:54.449 --> 01:15:58.520
pandemic was, you know, was an operation to set us back.

1475
01:15:59.000 --> 01:15:59.640
No question.

1476
01:16:00.199 --> 01:16:04.560
And to open the doors to removing Donald Trump through

1477
01:16:04.579 --> 01:16:05.119
vote fraud.

1478
01:16:05.600 --> 01:16:05.819
Right.

1479
01:16:07.500 --> 01:16:08.199
Absolutely.

1480
01:16:08.479 --> 01:16:11.489
And crippling our country. And there's no doubt. And we've

1481
01:16:11.510 --> 01:16:14.250
allowed China to get away with this, Scott. China and

1482
01:16:14.329 --> 01:16:19.250
all the other anti-Trump, anti-American, you know, alleged allies and

1483
01:16:19.310 --> 01:16:21.949
perpetrators that really attacked our country.

1484
01:16:22.930 --> 01:16:26.329
They sure did. They sure did. And, you know, I

1485
01:16:26.369 --> 01:16:30.510
sure hope that Trump has another few arrows in his

1486
01:16:30.569 --> 01:16:33.229
quiver that he's going to be firing. And we don't

1487
01:16:33.369 --> 01:16:38.819
want a kinetic conflict with the Chinese. In my book,

1488
01:16:38.819 --> 01:16:43.899
1776 Rising, I close out the book by reminding Americans

1489
01:16:44.460 --> 01:16:48.270
that we have this great moral capital that can defeat

1490
01:16:48.319 --> 01:16:51.369
our enemies, but we have to harness it.

1491
01:16:51.819 --> 01:16:52.850
We have to use it.

1492
01:16:54.079 --> 01:16:56.239
When we go to war, say with Iran, we have

1493
01:16:56.279 --> 01:17:00.560
to articulate why it is that we're justified in taking

1494
01:17:00.640 --> 01:17:05.060
out this evil regime, that this is a battle between.

1495
01:17:04.760 --> 01:17:05.939
Good and evil.

1496
01:17:07.239 --> 01:17:14.180
And we have this moral authority behind everything that we do. Unfortunately,

1497
01:17:14.640 --> 01:17:19.010
as the corruption grew in our country, really with Barack

1498
01:17:19.050 --> 01:17:22.470
Obama and then Joe Biden, We lost a lot of that.

1499
01:17:22.869 --> 01:17:25.149
Well, in the media, the media too, the media has

1500
01:17:25.189 --> 01:17:27.840
hurt us severely. This is why Trump is always calling

1501
01:17:27.859 --> 01:17:30.600
them out for being fake news, because they should be

1502
01:17:30.640 --> 01:17:34.619
the one at some level, just even reporting, report the facts,

1503
01:17:34.880 --> 01:17:37.300
because Trump's made it clear. I mean, it doesn't take

1504
01:17:37.380 --> 01:17:41.180
much imagination to think, what if Iran had a nuclear weapon?

1505
01:17:41.560 --> 01:17:41.779
Right.

1506
01:17:41.800 --> 01:17:44.430
The way they're acting right now, if they had a

1507
01:17:44.439 --> 01:17:46.430
nuclear weapon, heaven help us.

1508
01:17:46.810 --> 01:17:47.289
That's right.

1509
01:17:47.550 --> 01:17:48.109
Absolutely.

1510
01:17:48.130 --> 01:17:48.390
Absolutely.

1511
01:17:48.430 --> 01:17:48.909
Absolutely.

1512
01:17:49.500 --> 01:17:53.880
So they've proven untrustworthy. And so, you know, that's real clear.

1513
01:17:53.920 --> 01:17:56.539
But that's not that message is not being, you know,

1514
01:17:57.100 --> 01:18:00.899
put out there, even from a reporting standpoint from the

1515
01:18:01.100 --> 01:18:06.060
mainstream media. And that's disgusting because the First Amendment right

1516
01:18:06.500 --> 01:18:09.649
that was given, you know, freedom of press that was

1517
01:18:09.890 --> 01:18:13.930
enumerated in our Constitution by our founding fathers, they understood

1518
01:18:13.949 --> 01:18:18.850
the significance of for a Democratic Republic to have an

1519
01:18:19.010 --> 01:18:23.569
independent media. Unfortunately, we do not. We have a dependent,

1520
01:18:24.720 --> 01:18:28.539
I should say, codependent media with the Democratic Party.

1521
01:18:28.640 --> 01:18:32.560
A co-opted media, a compromised media. So they will not

1522
01:18:32.659 --> 01:18:38.550
cover certain stories. They will not cover Donald Trump with

1523
01:18:38.609 --> 01:18:42.689
any fairness. They will never attribute to Donald Trump any success.

1524
01:18:43.170 --> 01:18:47.850
But they're very quick to point out his foibles and

1525
01:18:47.909 --> 01:18:52.539
his alleged failures. They're ready to jump on the bandwagon

1526
01:18:52.600 --> 01:18:58.649
of those that say the Iran war was a total mistake. Well,

1527
01:18:58.710 --> 01:19:02.170
if we can take out that regime and bring about

1528
01:19:02.250 --> 01:19:08.579
a democratic new government in Iran that happens to have

1529
01:19:08.619 --> 01:19:12.159
the largest and fastest growing Christian population in the world.

1530
01:19:12.199 --> 01:19:16.479
Right. And if you can do that within a year, Scott,

1531
01:19:16.640 --> 01:19:17.699
I think that's success.

1532
01:19:18.319 --> 01:19:19.770
Oh, it's enormous success.

1533
01:19:19.779 --> 01:19:23.689
Absolutely. Just saying. Well, we must continue to pray for

1534
01:19:23.750 --> 01:19:27.789
our president and pray for our military who are out

1535
01:19:27.810 --> 01:19:30.829
there fighting the good fight for freedom on behalf of

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01:19:30.869 --> 01:19:35.069
the American people. Scott Powell, again, thank you very much. Congratulations.

1537
01:19:35.500 --> 01:19:38.640
On the upcoming new book, I would say for everybody,

1538
01:19:38.699 --> 01:19:41.479
I have the sense that you must get a new

1539
01:19:41.539 --> 01:19:43.890
box of highlighters because you're going to wear them out

1540
01:19:44.399 --> 01:19:46.010
in all the notes that you're going to be taking

1541
01:19:46.029 --> 01:19:48.970
throughout his book. So we can't wait for it. So

1542
01:19:49.010 --> 01:19:52.729
coming soon. Scott Powell from the Discovery Institute, author and speaker.

1543
01:19:52.829 --> 01:19:54.250
Thank you, Scott. Take care. Thank you, Bill.

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Welcome back. Good morning to you. Bill Martinez here. For

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more information on the show, you can check it out, BillMartinezLive.com.

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We're going to be talking about a new IBM study

1611
01:24:04.310 --> 01:24:09.609
that finds AI adoption effective. is outpacing K-12 readiness. This

1612
01:24:09.630 --> 01:24:12.390
is according to a national survey. And Lydia Logan is

1613
01:24:12.409 --> 01:24:14.869
going to be joining us. She's the IBM Vice President

1614
01:24:14.890 --> 01:24:19.770
for Education and Workforce Development at IBM Corporate Responsibility. Now,

1615
01:24:19.810 --> 01:24:22.369
just a little bit of background here. As schools begin

1616
01:24:22.430 --> 01:24:25.590
a new academic year, AI is becoming a routine part

1617
01:24:25.670 --> 01:24:29.800
of K-12 teaching and learning. So as if mom and dad,

1618
01:24:29.810 --> 01:24:31.880
you don't have enough questions coming your way that you

1619
01:24:31.909 --> 01:24:35.800
didn't know about, get ready, because new research commissioned by

1620
01:24:35.960 --> 01:24:40.239
IBM and conducted by Morning Consult finds that the systems

1621
01:24:40.279 --> 01:24:44.220
supporting responsible AI use are still catching up, pointing to

1622
01:24:44.260 --> 01:24:47.819
a gap between how quickly AI is entering classrooms and

1623
01:24:48.119 --> 01:24:52.510
and how prepared schools are to manage it. Lydia Logan,

1624
01:24:52.789 --> 01:24:54.930
I want to bring you on right now. So thank

1625
01:24:54.949 --> 01:24:57.020
you for coming on and breaking this down for us.

1626
01:24:57.310 --> 01:24:59.430
It seems like we got our hands full now with

1627
01:24:59.449 --> 01:25:00.689
this coming school year, right?

1628
01:25:01.390 --> 01:25:03.770
We've got our hands full, but we also have some

1629
01:25:03.810 --> 01:25:07.520
ways to meet this moment. So I'd say, you know,

1630
01:25:07.560 --> 01:25:09.500
it's time for us to step up to the plate

1631
01:25:09.600 --> 01:25:13.239
and do our part as adults and support our educators

1632
01:25:13.260 --> 01:25:15.880
and We know a few things, and we were able

1633
01:25:15.899 --> 01:25:18.739
to gain some really interesting insights from this survey.

1634
01:25:19.659 --> 01:25:20.909
Oh, sorry.

1635
01:25:20.949 --> 01:25:21.529
Go right ahead.

1636
01:25:21.550 --> 01:25:21.720
No, no.

1637
01:25:21.750 --> 01:25:23.789
I was just going to say, Lydia, thank you to

1638
01:25:23.949 --> 01:25:27.130
IBM for being in front of this because, I mean,

1639
01:25:27.930 --> 01:25:32.850
as we know, AI– And it's moving at the speed

1640
01:25:32.890 --> 01:25:35.989
of light. And so it's like everybody's hair is on

1641
01:25:36.050 --> 01:25:38.989
fire on this as we're trying to catch up and

1642
01:25:39.050 --> 01:25:40.829
get ahead of this thing to make sure that we're

1643
01:25:41.149 --> 01:25:43.979
getting the most out of this new technology, right?

1644
01:25:44.720 --> 01:25:45.380
That's right.

1645
01:25:45.579 --> 01:25:48.659
That's right. So it is moving quickly. And I think

1646
01:25:49.680 --> 01:25:54.000
the primary difference with this technology, with AI and generative

1647
01:25:54.079 --> 01:25:58.149
AI and predictive analytics, et cetera, is the pace of adoption.

1648
01:25:58.310 --> 01:26:01.329
And that's where we're seeing the gap in technology. in

1649
01:26:01.390 --> 01:26:06.170
keeping up, right? Only 24% of educators and 16% of

1650
01:26:06.229 --> 01:26:10.369
parents believe the U.S. education system is adapting very well

1651
01:26:10.430 --> 01:26:14.260
to advances in AI. And so that's really leading to

1652
01:26:14.300 --> 01:26:19.840
this lack of confidence. 76% of middle school educators and

1653
01:26:19.840 --> 01:26:22.680
73% of high school educators report AI is being used

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01:26:22.720 --> 01:26:27.760
in their classroom weekly. And yet only 20% say they've

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01:26:27.800 --> 01:26:31.590
had extensive AI training. And so that's where IBM is

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01:26:31.630 --> 01:26:35.050
stepping in. We're stepping in to close this gap. We've

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01:26:35.130 --> 01:26:41.350
created the IBM K-12 AI Leaders Fellowship, bringing together superintendents,

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01:26:41.529 --> 01:26:46.279
education leaders, and educators to build practical knowledge and confidence

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01:26:46.340 --> 01:26:50.939
to guide responsible AI adoption for educators for their own

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01:26:51.140 --> 01:26:54.039
teaching practice and to help leaders think about how to

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01:26:54.100 --> 01:26:55.539
implement it safely in schools.

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01:26:56.699 --> 01:26:58.970
Lydia, I got to imagine these young kids because just

1663
01:26:59.029 --> 01:27:01.689
like everything that has to do with computers, you know, parents,

1664
01:27:01.710 --> 01:27:03.689
they're afraid to touch a button. They're afraid they're going

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01:27:03.710 --> 01:27:06.560
to break something, erase all their hard work. And the

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01:27:06.600 --> 01:27:10.109
kids are just, you know, they are just going at it.

1667
01:27:10.500 --> 01:27:13.920
I got to imagine that these kids are going to

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01:27:13.960 --> 01:27:17.029
find themselves being the instructors to the teachers even.

1669
01:27:18.180 --> 01:27:19.550
Well, you know, we went through a.

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01:27:19.520 --> 01:27:23.270
Bit of this when we talked about having devices in schools.

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01:27:23.310 --> 01:27:26.069
And we went from having a computer lab down the

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01:27:26.109 --> 01:27:29.350
hall to one-to-one devices in schools, right? And the kids

1673
01:27:29.369 --> 01:27:33.470
were ahead of the educators. And educators found themselves in

1674
01:27:33.510 --> 01:27:38.050
a position where they were not, you know, the head

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01:27:38.090 --> 01:27:40.850
of the class. They were the facilitator of learning.

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01:27:40.880 --> 01:27:41.609
Right.

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01:27:42.020 --> 01:27:46.279
Moving to a role of facilitation is something that, you know,

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01:27:46.340 --> 01:27:49.359
is a little bit different for teachers. And this moment

1679
01:27:49.439 --> 01:27:52.619
is the same. Now that there's a new technology, we

1680
01:27:52.649 --> 01:27:56.590
can help them think differently about what kinds of lessons

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01:27:56.869 --> 01:28:00.270
are you offering? How do you help students take this technology,

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01:28:00.770 --> 01:28:05.130
harness it and supplement learning, not supplant? This is around,

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01:28:05.210 --> 01:28:07.130
you know, augmenting.

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01:28:06.590 --> 01:28:09.609
The work that students are doing by extending it through

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01:28:10.130 --> 01:28:14.689
additional resources or new ways of presenting the material, not

1686
01:28:14.899 --> 01:28:17.140
keeping them from doing the deep learning and thinking that

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01:28:17.159 --> 01:28:20.119
they need to do on the topics they're learning in schools.

1688
01:28:20.880 --> 01:28:23.699
Well, I know that IBM, one of your core values

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01:28:23.800 --> 01:28:26.539
is collaboration. And I think this is where we're at

1690
01:28:26.600 --> 01:28:29.579
right now is that collaboration comes into play here. It's

1691
01:28:29.619 --> 01:28:33.829
not that somebody is smarter than somebody else or it's

1692
01:28:34.029 --> 01:28:37.869
just that roles need to be adapted to the current condition.

1693
01:28:38.010 --> 01:28:41.100
And I just think like you are, what you're expressing

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01:28:41.140 --> 01:28:45.500
right now is a key opportunity for collaborative development.

1695
01:28:46.180 --> 01:28:52.119
This is absolutely a key opportunity, right? Businesses can't do

1696
01:28:52.159 --> 01:28:55.789
this alone. We are doing the same thing internally at IBM.

1697
01:28:55.810 --> 01:28:59.010
We're learning the technology. We're putting it into use every day.

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01:28:59.550 --> 01:29:01.710
We're working with our clients to do that. And we're

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01:29:01.750 --> 01:29:06.979
bringing those best practices to our school partners, our education leaders,

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01:29:07.060 --> 01:29:10.119
and making sure that they're learning what we're learning and

1701
01:29:10.159 --> 01:29:15.399
doing it in context. We know that learning technological skills,

1702
01:29:15.460 --> 01:29:18.859
those technology skills will continue to evolve as the technology evolves.

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01:29:18.930 --> 01:29:22.649
So this is where we are today. The durable skills

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01:29:22.710 --> 01:29:28.729
like communication, collaboration, teamwork, you know, creative thinking and critical

1705
01:29:28.829 --> 01:29:33.250
thinking and problem solving. Those are the durable skills. We

1706
01:29:33.289 --> 01:29:35.909
need to make sure students are learning those and then

1707
01:29:35.989 --> 01:29:41.100
applying the technology in ways that extend those skills. Those

1708
01:29:41.159 --> 01:29:43.699
are the skills that the World Economic Forum has said

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01:29:43.760 --> 01:29:47.260
are rising to the top as the technology becomes more prevalent.

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01:29:47.880 --> 01:29:50.170
Where do we make sure students use it? And they

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01:29:50.270 --> 01:29:52.729
use it with judgment and they use it with those

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01:29:52.930 --> 01:29:54.329
other skills on top.

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01:29:55.930 --> 01:30:00.189
Well, you know, the human experience in mind is just miraculous,

1714
01:30:00.729 --> 01:30:02.949
you know, when you think about it, because, you know,

1715
01:30:02.989 --> 01:30:07.550
you get innovation, but without human engagement, it's human engagement

1716
01:30:07.590 --> 01:30:10.510
that takes this, you know, to a whole nother level.

1717
01:30:10.590 --> 01:30:13.930
So I'm excited to see, you know, how these K

1718
01:30:13.949 --> 01:30:17.710
through 12ers are going to embrace this. And while they

1719
01:30:17.770 --> 01:30:21.170
already are embracing this technology. And what it will look like,

1720
01:30:21.229 --> 01:30:24.510
because I think one of the things that people want

1721
01:30:24.529 --> 01:30:28.800
to know, Lydia, is what does successful AI integration look like?

1722
01:30:30.140 --> 01:30:36.260
Well, successful integration looks like augmentation. It is how students

1723
01:30:36.319 --> 01:30:41.600
and how educators are using the technology to further their learning.

1724
01:30:41.819 --> 01:30:45.890
In the case of an educator, it may be automating

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01:30:45.930 --> 01:30:48.680
the routine tasks that they do that take up so

1726
01:30:48.689 --> 01:30:52.979
much of their time, like lesson planning. They're using their expertise,

1727
01:30:53.060 --> 01:30:56.380
but they can use generative AI to help them quickly

1728
01:30:56.439 --> 01:30:59.640
do lesson plans and make adjustments. They can use it

1729
01:30:59.680 --> 01:31:03.800
to personalize learning, to meet individual students in their classrooms.

1730
01:31:04.300 --> 01:31:07.659
They can use data analytics to group students into small

1731
01:31:07.699 --> 01:31:10.579
groups and figure out which kids might need to be

1732
01:31:10.720 --> 01:31:13.550
retaught a component of a lesson that they may have missed.

1733
01:31:14.199 --> 01:31:17.939
When educators have more confidence and they are able to

1734
01:31:19.340 --> 01:31:23.939
really augment their role as a teacher, as an educator,

1735
01:31:24.119 --> 01:31:27.800
and save time on those routine tasks, we'll know we're

1736
01:31:27.880 --> 01:31:31.479
doing a good job. A big part of this is governance, though.

1737
01:31:31.550 --> 01:31:36.050
We've got to start there, making sure that governance is

1738
01:31:36.170 --> 01:31:40.050
built into AI adoption from the beginning. Schools should have

1739
01:31:40.149 --> 01:31:43.909
clear policies around which AI tools are appropriate for classroom use.

1740
01:31:44.539 --> 01:31:49.020
how student information is protected, and where human oversight is required.

1741
01:31:49.600 --> 01:31:55.460
Making sure any high-risk decision is always a human as

1742
01:31:55.520 --> 01:32:00.609
the last deciding factor. You may use AI to inform

1743
01:32:00.649 --> 01:32:03.689
those decisions, but you want to make sure people are

1744
01:32:03.710 --> 01:32:06.149
in charge of the technology, not the other way around.

1745
01:32:06.689 --> 01:32:09.250
Right. And you bring up an excellent point here. I mean,

1746
01:32:09.270 --> 01:32:11.930
this isn't something that requires a lot of committee action.

1747
01:32:12.510 --> 01:32:14.689
I mean, this is some common sense. You know, we

1748
01:32:14.729 --> 01:32:17.529
want to protect the guardrails so that we protect this

1749
01:32:17.609 --> 01:32:21.069
innovation so that we can move it forward. Because I

1750
01:32:21.090 --> 01:32:22.909
just think, you know, even like right now, when you

1751
01:32:23.090 --> 01:32:26.289
have only 20 percent of educators that have received any

1752
01:32:26.329 --> 01:32:29.689
kind of AI training, you know, what is this going

1753
01:32:29.710 --> 01:32:31.130
to look like five years from now?

1754
01:32:31.750 --> 01:32:34.109
That's right. We need to make sure that we're doing

1755
01:32:34.189 --> 01:32:38.619
our part to help educators keep pace. 59% of educators

1756
01:32:38.680 --> 01:32:42.260
believe AI literacy should be required or offered as an elective.

1757
01:32:42.899 --> 01:32:45.649
And so that lets us know they've got their finger

1758
01:32:45.689 --> 01:32:48.949
on the pulse. They understand how important this technology is.

1759
01:32:49.470 --> 01:32:52.390
They know that their students, that they and their students

1760
01:32:52.409 --> 01:32:55.890
will be expected to use it effectively to prepare them

1761
01:32:55.949 --> 01:32:59.890
for the next step. So we have our skills build program.

1762
01:32:59.909 --> 01:33:04.510
There are free courses that are for educators. We've got

1763
01:33:04.550 --> 01:33:08.289
the fellowships. We have courses for adult learners, so for

1764
01:33:08.350 --> 01:33:11.470
parents who are out there who are interested in getting started.

1765
01:33:11.989 --> 01:33:15.619
We have AI literacy and fluency at multiple levels. We

1766
01:33:15.640 --> 01:33:18.600
have a career navigator for parents who may be out

1767
01:33:18.640 --> 01:33:21.100
there trying to figure out how to use it in

1768
01:33:21.189 --> 01:33:25.029
context and what learning they need. We've really put out

1769
01:33:26.090 --> 01:33:30.149
resources to help parents. people in different roles and different

1770
01:33:30.229 --> 01:33:33.930
places in our communities across America and across the world

1771
01:33:34.010 --> 01:33:35.890
meet this moment with the skills they need.

1772
01:33:36.670 --> 01:33:38.970
Well, and as you say, this gap is real and

1773
01:33:38.989 --> 01:33:42.600
you're addressing it. And, you know, let's just say, hey,

1774
01:33:42.609 --> 01:33:44.640
we just got to dive in. The water's warm. It's

1775
01:33:44.680 --> 01:33:46.500
nice and comfortable. Let's go have some fun, right?

1776
01:33:47.039 --> 01:33:47.579
That's right.

1777
01:33:47.659 --> 01:33:52.000
The benefits outweigh the risks, but safe and responsible use

1778
01:33:52.579 --> 01:33:55.840
is the starting point. And then figuring out augmentation and

1779
01:33:56.390 --> 01:33:58.989
and supplementation, not supplant.

1780
01:33:59.510 --> 01:33:59.979
Exactly.

1781
01:34:00.409 --> 01:34:05.119
The big takeaways, defend your work, learn the information, and

1782
01:34:05.140 --> 01:34:08.100
then figure out how you go farther with the technology.

1783
01:34:08.840 --> 01:34:12.399
Well, Lydia Logan leads IBM's community and university skilling initiatives

1784
01:34:12.420 --> 01:34:16.050
that create more inclusive and effective schools and workforces. Her

1785
01:34:16.069 --> 01:34:21.149
programs help fulfill IBM's pledges to skill 30 million people

1786
01:34:21.229 --> 01:34:25.090
worldwide by 2030. Lydia, again, thank you so much for

1787
01:34:25.109 --> 01:34:27.680
coming on the show. Where can people go for more information?

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01:34:27.699 --> 01:34:29.300
I'm going to give you the last word, okay?

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01:34:30.039 --> 01:34:31.000
Thank you so much.

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01:34:31.180 --> 01:34:39.279
They can come to IBM SkillsBuild at S-K-I-L-L-S-B-U-I-L-D.org. That will

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01:34:39.350 --> 01:34:42.789
give them more information about the morning consult study, and

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01:34:42.810 --> 01:34:45.609
it will also give them access to the free courses

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01:34:45.970 --> 01:34:48.850
that they can take and IBM digital credentials they can earn.

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Well, we're back with you. Bill Martinez here, and a

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real treat, Mr. Roy Beck. It's been a long time

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since we've had a chance to get together. And his book,

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Back of the Hiring Line, A 200-Year History of Immigration Surges,

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Employer Bias, and Depression of Black Wealth. Roy, welcome back.

1863
01:39:12.140 --> 01:39:13.100
Good to have you with us, sir.

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Well, it's been too long, hasn't it?

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It really has been, but you know.

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Not your fault.

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01:39:19.149 --> 01:39:22.310
Well, look it, you're busy, and whenever we can get

1868
01:39:22.390 --> 01:39:27.460
someone of... you know, of your experience. And you have

1869
01:39:27.699 --> 01:39:31.039
probably forgotten more than we'll ever learn. So whenever we

1870
01:39:31.079 --> 01:39:36.930
can be at your footsteps and, you know, and listen

1871
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clearly to what you've experienced, I mean, you bring a

1872
01:39:39.729 --> 01:39:41.890
lot to the table, especially when it comes to immigration,

1873
01:39:41.930 --> 01:39:45.979
as we continue to debate this. And I think one

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of the biggest challenges, Roy, that we have is that

1875
01:39:48.430 --> 01:39:50.529
we got to get it out of the emotional and

1876
01:39:50.550 --> 01:39:54.229
the political realm. And I believe our founding fathers, and

1877
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initially when they looked at immigration, there was more common

1878
01:39:57.729 --> 01:40:00.609
sense than there was political sense. And I think that's

1879
01:40:00.670 --> 01:40:03.689
why it was probably more effective back then versus now.

1880
01:40:03.729 --> 01:40:04.340
What do you say?

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Well, the fact is, they messed it up a number

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01:40:07.859 --> 01:40:09.659
of times in the past, but they got it right

1883
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in the past too. And And that's the point of

1884
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this book is, although it is very much, you could say,

1885
01:40:15.500 --> 01:40:19.800
a Black history book, it's also a very, very important

1886
01:40:20.260 --> 01:40:22.880
overall American history book. It's a way of looking at

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our American history since 1820. Basically, it's a 200-year 1820s

1888
01:40:28.819 --> 01:40:33.890
to 2020s look at our country through the way that

1889
01:40:34.430 --> 01:40:41.199
immigration surges or restrictions affected the most vulnerable parts of

1890
01:40:41.260 --> 01:40:45.500
our society. Now, I focus on Black Americans because they

1891
01:40:45.600 --> 01:40:47.979
are the ones that tend to be the most vulnerable,

1892
01:40:48.020 --> 01:40:52.449
the most harmed by reckless immigration policies. But as I

1893
01:40:52.510 --> 01:40:57.489
say in the book repeatedly, this is about all vulnerable Americans.

1894
01:40:57.109 --> 01:40:58.050
Of all races.

1895
01:40:58.489 --> 01:41:03.869
So an author often will narrow a subject in order

1896
01:41:03.949 --> 01:41:07.979
to just dig in, but then you really extrapolate for

1897
01:41:07.989 --> 01:41:12.609
the whole country. And this, I believe that this book

1898
01:41:12.729 --> 01:41:16.550
is a history and a story that what I've found

1899
01:41:16.609 --> 01:41:20.020
is most people just simply don't know. They're surprised by it.

1900
01:41:20.630 --> 01:41:26.310
And it's not a book primarily of facts and numbers,

1901
01:41:26.449 --> 01:41:31.189
although they're in there. There's major studies that have been done.

1902
01:41:31.229 --> 01:41:34.189
Those are in there. But it's a book of stories.

1903
01:41:34.680 --> 01:41:39.189
You know, it's a story of, how regular working class people,

1904
01:41:41.029 --> 01:41:43.810
how they did in the labor markets. And the fact is,

1905
01:41:43.869 --> 01:41:48.109
is that there's an awful lot you can do from

1906
01:41:48.149 --> 01:41:52.359
your own personal efforts, your perseverance. But some of us

1907
01:41:52.420 --> 01:41:55.739
have a little more ability to rise above the tide

1908
01:41:55.779 --> 01:41:59.079
than others. And sometimes when the tide is too strong,

1909
01:41:59.619 --> 01:42:02.909
some people sink. And that's what's happened in high immigration periods.

1910
01:42:03.189 --> 01:42:09.029
We're in that now, aren't we? Since 1965, when Congress

1911
01:42:09.090 --> 01:42:16.779
really accidentally reopened mass immigration, our regular working class people

1912
01:42:17.579 --> 01:42:21.260
have been swimming in this giant pool of foreign labor.

1913
01:42:22.119 --> 01:42:27.310
And many of them, large numbers of them, have not succeeded.

1914
01:42:28.109 --> 01:42:30.279
It's just kind of swept them away. And this has

1915
01:42:30.350 --> 01:42:35.470
happened before. It definitely happened starting about 10 years after

1916
01:42:35.489 --> 01:42:38.649
the Civil War. And the story here is, and I'll

1917
01:42:38.670 --> 01:42:40.970
stop and let you ask your question. I just say that,

1918
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you know, the quick overview is that for, you know,

1919
01:42:45.310 --> 01:42:49.430
we hear a lot about how slavery has had such

1920
01:42:49.470 --> 01:42:54.510
a profound effect on Black Americans. Well, obviously that was

1921
01:42:54.550 --> 01:42:58.359
not a good thing being in slavery. But what's amazing

1922
01:42:58.479 --> 01:43:00.380
you find in this book, the stories that in the

1923
01:43:00.380 --> 01:43:04.800
10 years after the end of the civil war freed

1924
01:43:04.920 --> 01:43:09.810
slaves who had almost zero education, as you can imagine, uh,

1925
01:43:09.930 --> 01:43:14.550
and very restricted skills began to move North into the

1926
01:43:14.590 --> 01:43:19.380
expanding industries and did very well. There are, there's a,

1927
01:43:19.550 --> 01:43:23.949
there's a town in Pennsylvania called Steelton and within a,

1928
01:43:24.010 --> 01:43:29.390
within a decade or so, uh, Large numbers of emancipated

1929
01:43:29.430 --> 01:43:33.850
slaves had skilled jobs. They were starting their own businesses.

1930
01:43:33.909 --> 01:43:36.949
They had a newspaper of their own. They had churches

1931
01:43:36.989 --> 01:43:39.630
of their own. They even began being elected to the

1932
01:43:39.689 --> 01:43:46.149
city council. This was a chance for the United States

1933
01:43:46.220 --> 01:43:51.279
to move in a very different direction. But then, after

1934
01:43:51.319 --> 01:43:55.850
about 10 years, immigration just exploded. And not because of

1935
01:43:55.890 --> 01:44:03.090
a decision by Congress, but because the transatlantic ships, passenger

1936
01:44:03.130 --> 01:44:07.100
ships got to be so safe and so fast and

1937
01:44:07.180 --> 01:44:12.779
so cheap. And once that happened, industries discovered that they

1938
01:44:12.859 --> 01:44:18.319
could import vast numbers of cheaper labor, cheaper from Europe

1939
01:44:18.890 --> 01:44:22.989
than hiring black laborers and white southern laborers from the south.

1940
01:44:24.210 --> 01:44:27.279
And so that happened, that went on until World War I.

1941
01:44:28.850 --> 01:44:33.850
So instead of our basically recovering from slavery and the

1942
01:44:33.930 --> 01:44:38.170
Civil War in a very different way, 90% of all

1943
01:44:38.229 --> 01:44:42.189
black Americans at the time of World War I were

1944
01:44:42.210 --> 01:44:45.590
still in the South and still under very repressive codes

1945
01:44:45.850 --> 01:44:50.189
because they couldn't, they had the freedom of mobility, but

1946
01:44:50.210 --> 01:44:54.229
they didn't have any jobs to go to. I think

1947
01:44:54.300 --> 01:44:57.340
one of the most exciting parts of this book are

1948
01:44:57.359 --> 01:45:00.000
to see what happened in World War I. Because in

1949
01:45:00.020 --> 01:45:03.460
World War I, those passenger ships couldn't get across because

1950
01:45:03.479 --> 01:45:08.100
of the U-boats. And you had people going to war,

1951
01:45:08.140 --> 01:45:10.319
et cetera, et cetera. You had a tight labor market.

1952
01:45:10.359 --> 01:45:15.779
And Bill, that's really what immigration, when it comes to economics,

1953
01:45:16.100 --> 01:45:19.239
it's about tight versus loose labor market. If you were

1954
01:45:19.260 --> 01:45:22.260
a wage earner, you want to be working in a

1955
01:45:22.300 --> 01:45:27.130
tight labor market. And as the book explains, tight labor

1956
01:45:27.189 --> 01:45:31.850
markets don't just cause an employer to pay higher wages

1957
01:45:31.930 --> 01:45:35.930
because they have to compete for you. But in order

1958
01:45:35.949 --> 01:45:39.369
to pay higher wages, they really put more effort into

1959
01:45:39.850 --> 01:45:45.449
more efficiencies. You come up with an awful lot of

1960
01:45:45.510 --> 01:45:48.689
inventions have been done because we were in tight labor markets,

1961
01:45:48.909 --> 01:45:53.600
which we were in from World War I until today. 1965,

1962
01:45:53.600 --> 01:45:57.479
when we started mass immigration, we had this wonderful flourishing

1963
01:45:58.100 --> 01:46:01.789
of all American wage earners, and especially of black wage earners.

1964
01:46:02.109 --> 01:46:05.449
If we had kept that up, you wouldn't see these

1965
01:46:05.670 --> 01:46:09.890
Black Lives Matter riots and that kind of stuff going

1966
01:46:09.989 --> 01:46:15.479
on today. Because so much of our civil upheaval today

1967
01:46:16.439 --> 01:46:22.140
is because we still have these large populations of unemployed

1968
01:46:22.199 --> 01:46:27.479
and underemployed Americans who just, you know, are not being

1969
01:46:27.520 --> 01:46:29.640
able to swim in these loose labor markets.

1970
01:46:30.380 --> 01:46:33.550
Right. So going back, I mean, you know, you might

1971
01:46:33.659 --> 01:46:36.750
have a tendency to think that this was a bit systemic,

1972
01:46:37.149 --> 01:46:39.750
but it just seemed like, you know, after World War I,

1973
01:46:39.789 --> 01:46:43.229
as you pointed out, Roy, you know, the environment just

1974
01:46:43.270 --> 01:46:45.170
took over, you know, just, right?

1975
01:46:45.189 --> 01:46:45.369
Right.

1976
01:46:45.899 --> 01:46:47.890
When I say environment, I'm just talking about.

1977
01:46:47.930 --> 01:46:51.630
I know what you're talking about. It's the political situation. Well,

1978
01:46:52.050 --> 01:46:59.989
the fact is World War... Here's the opening sentence of

1979
01:47:00.130 --> 01:47:06.550
a chapter that starts at chapter five. And it starts.

1980
01:47:06.189 --> 01:47:08.020
Off and says....

1981
01:47:13.520 --> 01:47:16.619
German submarines accomplished in the first year of the World

1982
01:47:16.649 --> 01:47:20.729
War what Congress had been unable to do after three

1983
01:47:20.810 --> 01:47:25.489
decades of attempts. The U-boats inadvertently reopened the factory gates

1984
01:47:25.529 --> 01:47:28.329
of the North to black workers, creating a new path

1985
01:47:28.369 --> 01:47:31.270
of freedom for those in the South. So you're right.

1986
01:47:31.899 --> 01:47:36.039
That was not something nobody in America wanted World War

1987
01:47:36.060 --> 01:47:40.000
I or one of those U-boats. But here's, as the

1988
01:47:40.039 --> 01:47:44.359
book shows, Congress tried everything. I think it was two

1989
01:47:44.420 --> 01:47:49.939
dozen times from the 1880s until World War I to

1990
01:47:50.329 --> 01:47:55.369
restrict immigration. Until then, immigration, there was no law restricting

1991
01:47:55.989 --> 01:48:01.149
the numbers. But you had four presidents that vetoed the bills.

1992
01:48:02.829 --> 01:48:06.859
So Congress could, the majorities of most of those Congresses

1993
01:48:07.239 --> 01:48:12.439
could see that unrestricted immigration, which you didn't have in

1994
01:48:12.460 --> 01:48:17.770
other countries, wasn't working. But you had two groups of people,

1995
01:48:18.090 --> 01:48:22.430
as people find in this book, two groups, powerful groups,

1996
01:48:22.850 --> 01:48:27.310
that kept persuading presidents to veto these restrictions. The two

1997
01:48:27.380 --> 01:48:32.920
groups were the big industrial titans that wanted to keep

1998
01:48:32.939 --> 01:48:41.180
wages down and the immigrant ward bosses in the cities

1999
01:48:41.779 --> 01:48:44.640
whose power was from having more and more immigrants from

2000
01:48:44.680 --> 01:48:47.539
their countries. So you had kind of, you could say,

2001
01:48:48.020 --> 01:48:49.960
maybe you could say from the right and the left,

2002
01:48:50.020 --> 01:48:55.359
but it was just the self-interest by the big industrial

2003
01:48:55.399 --> 01:49:00.350
titans and by these who were Republicans and immigrant ward

2004
01:49:00.390 --> 01:49:06.689
bosses who were Democrats. But the majority of people electing

2005
01:49:06.970 --> 01:49:12.789
members of Congress who wanted to stop it. Now, one

2006
01:49:12.810 --> 01:49:17.029
of the problems before World War I was the advocates

2007
01:49:17.050 --> 01:49:22.119
for restrictions kept saying, if we restrict immigration, a lot

2008
01:49:22.159 --> 01:49:27.720
of good things will happen. But it was theoretical. And

2009
01:49:28.720 --> 01:49:31.619
what happened in World War I is you saw, my gosh,

2010
01:49:31.659 --> 01:49:41.720
wages increased, The economic historians say that America went from

2011
01:49:42.420 --> 01:49:49.569
its most economic inequality, which was the greatest in American

2012
01:49:49.590 --> 01:49:54.510
history just before World War I, became the narrowest during

2013
01:49:54.529 --> 01:49:58.949
World War I. And as soon as World War I ended,

2014
01:49:59.539 --> 01:50:03.439
mass immigration started again, the ship started again. And that's

2015
01:50:03.500 --> 01:50:06.979
when this time Congress goes, No, no, we are going

2016
01:50:07.000 --> 01:50:11.380
to cut the numbers. And Warren Harding, who's often disparaged

2017
01:50:11.439 --> 01:50:15.720
as a president, he was the first president that would

2018
01:50:15.800 --> 01:50:20.439
sign a restriction bill in 1921. And then he died

2019
01:50:20.470 --> 01:50:22.029
of a heart attack, you know, in the middle of

2020
01:50:22.050 --> 01:50:28.029
his term. But then in 1924, Calvin Coolidge signed the

2021
01:50:28.029 --> 01:50:33.130
1924 bill, which cut immigration by two-thirds. And that lasted

2022
01:50:33.189 --> 01:50:36.930
until 1965. And we had this wonderful period, the greatest

2023
01:50:36.989 --> 01:50:39.750
period for American wage earners during that period.

2024
01:50:40.409 --> 01:50:42.210
Well, Roy, we've got to leave it there. I've got

2025
01:50:42.229 --> 01:50:44.109
to have you back because there's so much more to

2026
01:50:44.149 --> 01:50:49.229
get into. Roy Beck began encountering the nation's growing economic

2027
01:50:49.270 --> 01:50:52.560
disparities as a newspaperman in the 70s and has written,

2028
01:50:52.579 --> 01:50:53.229
that's 1970s. That's not 1970s.

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01:50:53.220 --> 01:50:53.439
Yeah, right.

2030
01:50:57.449 --> 01:51:00.409
And has written about the effects of immigration policies on

2031
01:51:00.529 --> 01:51:04.409
African-Americans since the riots of South Central Los Angeles back

2032
01:51:04.529 --> 01:51:08.399
in 1992. His brand new book, Back of the Hiring

2033
01:51:08.460 --> 01:51:11.380
Line by Roy Beck. And I promise we're going to

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have you back because we've got to get in into

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01:51:14.819 --> 01:51:17.399
more of these chapters. And we just barely touched the

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01:51:17.420 --> 01:51:19.479
tip of the iceberg here, Roy. Okay.

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