April 30, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 04 30 26

The Bill Martinez Show 04 30 26
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The Bill Martinez Show 04 30 26
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, okay, let's do an Ill Martinas Live a program

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about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and

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our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Well, good morning America. Six minutes after the top of

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the hour. Bill Martinez here with Mike O'Neill from Landmark Legal. Hey, Mike,

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how we doing.

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I'm good, Bill, Good to be with you.

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Hey, great to have you here. Lots of things to

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catch up on SBLC. We've got, you know, of course,

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a lot of decision on what I want to talk about,

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not the Patriot Act, it's.

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The Boarding Rights Act, birthright citizenship.

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Yeah, we got that. And then also there was something

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on security. What what's helped me out here, you know,

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came from the Patriot Act. They're they're debating it right now. Yes, yes,

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right exactly. I'm sorry. Yeah, my just coming out of

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the dentist so gained up a little bit, no fun.

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I think they went too deep. May at touched a

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little bit of the brain here, So you're gonna have

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to put up with me. So anyway, let's let's start off.

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Any update on Scotis.

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Well, we're sitting here, there's a couple outstanding decisions that

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we're that we're waiting on. I think the birthright citizenship is,

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of course one of them that was argued earlier this month,

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that was argued on April first, and that I think

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that that decision, this is the constitutionality of or the

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legality of President Trump's birthright citizens or executive order interpreting

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the Fourteenth Amendment citizenship clause to mean that simple territorial

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birth presence is not enough to convey automatic citizenship. You

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have to have something more. There has to be some

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sort of connection to the United States, and that one's

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that's probably arguably the biggest, most impactful decision the Court's

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got to issue this term. We can't. We will most

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likely that decision is not going to come until late

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June early July. There isn't an interesting angle on that

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the Court could limits interpretation to the legality rather than

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the constitutionality of the executive order. If they limit their

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decision to the legality of it, in other words, refrain

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from interpreting the cons the provisions in the Fourteenth Amendment

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and simply say that the executive order violates a law

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that was enacted by Congress in nineteen fifty two that

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would preserve the ability of Congress to pass subsequent laws

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that might address, for example, an issue like birth tourism,

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and so the Court could kind of rule against Trump

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but really preserve a political solution to the issue that's

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been presented to us that's clear to us regarding anchor babies,

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birth tourism, those sorts of issues. So I tend to

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think that that as time goes on, I tend to

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think that that's the course that the Court's going to

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go on. It really would be within I wouldn't say typical,

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but characteristic of someone like the Chief Justice and Justices

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Kavanaugh and Acb to say, Okay, the President probably went

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up went ahead of his skeys by issuing the executive order,

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but we want to preserve the political process. So we're

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going to refrain from affirming that there is a solid,

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cast iron constitutional right. We're just going to kind of

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leave that question unaddressed and simply conclude that the law

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it controls here and that the president and executive order

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conflicts with the law. So Congress can address this if

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they want to, right, And I.

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Think that's the deal. If they want to. They've been

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can about anyway like a hacky sack. So you know,

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we'll see what happens. This is the thing that Trump

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is is really putting pressure on Congress is to do

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their job.

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Mike, Yeah, that's always something that we're talking about here.

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The Court doesn't operate, the Supreme Court doesn't operate. Unfortunately, Fortunately, unfortunately,

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on that wavelength, they will say, we're going to preserve

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the process and the options. Of course, it's not our

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job to get into the mired into the politics of

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the issue, and it's not our fault if Congress isn't

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doing anything that's on that's Congress's part view. Of course,

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the frustration we all feel, which you and I've talked

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about this over and over again, is Save America Act,

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the Voting the voter Integrity Action is necessary to ensure

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that the preservation of our of our electoral process. Incidentally,

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there's another issue, uh that we could touch on briefly,

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a decision the Louisiana versus LA, which is a decision

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that's going to come down shortly regarding that the constitutionality

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of provisions in the Voting Rights Act. This is a

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case where Louisiana has reconfigured some of their congressional districts

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on the basis of race, and to ensure that there's

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majority minority congressional districts. They actually crafted a new a

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new congressional district to ensure that it had a majority

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African American district. And if you look at the way

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that these, uh, these these congressional districts are gerrymandered, it's

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it's beyond absurd, right, It's these tiny little micro lines

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throughout the state, one end of the state to the other.

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And the Court has been clear in this if they

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if if a state legislature wants to do that on

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the basis of politics, and that's their per If they

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want to do on the basis of race, that's prohibited

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by the fourteenth Amendment. And looks like we're going to

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get a decision, hopefully very shortly with this in Louis

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and versus Cala, saying that states can't jerrymander on the

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basis of race.

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Right exactly. The other thing that is pending in Congress

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is the debate over FISA, the renewal OFISA. We've had

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some issues with it. I mean, it's interesting right now

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in light of where we are in terms of our

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national security and the threats that abound. I mean, This

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is just another one of those issues that Congress I mean,

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there it just seems like there's a lack of expediency

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in dealing with these and and I get it, you

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know that, you know, it's better to be you know,

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steady and prudent. But we've got so many balls in

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the area when it comes to our national security, especially

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with the you know we still have and funded uh

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you know, DHS. What the heck?

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Right?

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Right? I think that that's that's your core power exercise

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of power from Congress is appropriations, right, I mean, the

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one thing that and they at some point they tend

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to get through this, but for them to sit on

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this because of politics, not funding and not renewing these

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necessary pieces of legislation to ensure our security, you know,

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at some point, I'm of mixed minds on FISA. It

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has been abused in the past, the vice of courts

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has been politicized. But nonetheless, I think there's a demonstrable

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need to ensure that law enforcement has the tools to

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ensure our security, and especially considering we're involved in an

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active conflict against the world's greatest sponsor of terrorism, so

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there's clearly a need for these sorts of things, so,

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you know, Congress to be held up again. I go

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back to this long standing point I've made before, is

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this zombie filibuster thing to enable the business of Congress

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and the business of the American people to be held

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hostage by just a couple of members of Congress, particularly

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members of the United States Senate, I think is just absurd.

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At this point, I'm all for invoking traditional Phillip buster.

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Make these people who oppose this sort of stuff hold

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the well of the Senate and make them actually stay

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in Washington, d C. Not be able to fly home

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every two or three days. I know exactly I exaggerate,

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but it certainly seems like every two or three days.

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Make them stay in Washington and do their bloody jobs

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for Heaven's sakes.

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But the point you made earlier, Mike, is critical as

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far as the public is concerned, because they're going look

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at clearly there were abuses with FAISA, no consequences. So

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that's that is complicating the debate right now, and that

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is what has you know, politicians being a bit sensitive.

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But it's their fault because they just you know, they

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let it be abused and they didn't follow up on it.

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To make sure people paid the consequences to where they

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tightened it up to where you know, when it comes

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up again, they can say, Okay, we've buttoned this thing down,

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so we don't have a problem in renewing it, right.

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Yeah, And I would I agree absolutely, I agree with

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that point wholeheartedly. I do. I would caution paid regarding

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these prosecutions. Again, you just saw that James Comy was reindicted,

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not reindicted, was indicted for new charges. So I think

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there is some accountability. You're seeing some movement from the

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Department of Justice. Look, there's a lot of work that

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goes into these indictments, the SPLC indictment of the Southern

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Poverty Law Center. It takes a tremendous amount of work.

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You have to make the assumption, if you're a prosecutor,

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that the opposition, the target of your investigation is going

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to have very sophisticated, well funded legal counsel that is

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going to be able to ensure that every I is dotted,

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every T is crossed. It takes enormous amounts of time

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and resources to build these cases against these sophisticated parties.

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So if you're going to indict a James Comy. If

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you're going to indict an SPLC, if you're going to

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indict Anthony Fauci's lieutenants for committing crimes, you really have

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to have airtight, strong cases because you know that they're

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going to have really really smart lawyers defending them, and

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they're going to politicize the prosecutions to the extent possible

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and also to the extent possible, drag you into courts

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where you might be and it in front of jerrys Now.

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This isn't necessarily the case with SPLC, because I'd say

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in Alabama, but they're going to drag you in front

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of jury's that are going to be openly hostile to

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the Trump administration.

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I want to talk more about SVLC when we come back.

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We got more from Mike after this stay with us.

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for Patriots, Hey, we're back with you.

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Bill Martine is here with Landmark Legal. Mike O'Neill, Mike SBLC.

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Yeah, this is the Southern Southern Poverty Law Center. This

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is the organization that's that's known throughout the country as

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the group that designates hate groups. Right. They hold themselves

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out as the arbiter of what constitutes a hate group,

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and somehow the left and to even a lesser extent

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or disturbingly extent, the mainstream press and mainstream outlets glom

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onto this and somehow have held this up to this

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group up to be the standard for who is a

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hate group and who isn't. Apparently, though in the past

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five or six years or ten years, all it needs

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for you to rise the level of a hate group

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is if you if you say that transgenderism is a

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mental health disorder, right, that makes you a hate group,

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according to the SPLC, pretty low bar. Nonetheless, as we

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saw last week, they were They've been indicted by the

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Department of Justice on thirteen counts or excuse me, eleven

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count federal indictment issues of wire fraud, bank fraud, false

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statements to federally insured banks, conspiracy to commit money laundering. Essentially,

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what you saw here is the SPLC, which by the way,

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has a war chest. I think in the hundreds of

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millions of dollars and all that money, interestingly, bill is offshore.

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It's in banks. It's not in domestics, not in like

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Bank of America or Capital One or what have you.

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It's in these offshore accounts, which in and of itself

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is just bizarre.

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Why would why why would you.

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Have a taxi? First of all, why would you have

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a five to one c in this. Micha O'Neill is

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the vice president of an exempt organization of a five

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to one C three tax exempt organization, speaks from this,

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So I think this is kind of close to me

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as an exempt organization. Why would you have your money?

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First of all, you have hundreds of millions of dollars amazing,

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that's amazing in and of itself, a charity with hundreds

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of millions of dollars in the bank, okay, But then

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you have it all offshore in these in the Caymans,

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the Bahamas. Know what's going on? What is the purpose

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of that? Well, we're starting to see a little bit

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of illumination under this again with the proviso here that

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this is these are alleged crimes, that this is an

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indictment they are entitled like any entity or any individual

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in our country is entitled to the presumption of innocence.

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But let's be clear about what the allegations are that

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they spent, That they pay millions of dollars to informants

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embedded in white supremacist organizations. That so you're talking about

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millions of dollars flowing into organizations from the SPLC to

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the KKK. And I mean, okay, so I give one

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hundred thousand dollars, I give fifty thousand dollars to the

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Southern Poverty Law Center with the assumption that they're going

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to combat right winging extremism, right and then my money

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that money goes finds its way into the coffers of

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the Grand Wizard of the KKK. Okay, Well, that's clearly problematic.

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So I think it's good that this indictment came down.

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It's important that there's some accountability from NGOs that are

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committing these sorts of crimes. There's a big issue at

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play here also with NGOs and exempt organizations and some

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of the accountability they need to have from terms of

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from their from their exempt status, we I can say

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we operate from a privileged status. Donations to organizations are

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tax exempt. We don't have to pay taxes on our

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on our income. Oftentimes Landmark doesn't get this, but oftentimes

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a lot of NGOs and exempt organizations receive government grants.

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So you get the tax benefits, you get the tax deductions,

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and you get the tax money. You should be held

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to a very high standard of accountability in these cases.

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Well, you wondered if sblc's dollars were aware of this scam.

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And I think that's obviously one of the parts issue, Right,

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you know that the duplicitus conduct defrauding your contributors. You're

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helding yourself out to this as this contract. But again,

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I think this is really kind of what happens is

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they've become irrelevant, right, They had to manufacture controversies in

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order to maintain their relevance, and they justify their existence.

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When Joe Biden came out and said years ago at

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that history, you know, I guess well known almost historic

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speech that the gravest threat to America is domestic terrorism

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and right wing extremism. We all knew that he was

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full of nonsense. But you have to create this boogeyman

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to ensure your relevance, and was.

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He hand in hand with the SBLC on that statement.

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I don't know.

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I'm not going to think of it, you know, South Carolina.

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Right, Certainly, again, there is and we've talked about this before,

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and anybody, anybody with half a brain, understands that there

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is no institutional racism in this country.

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Now.

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I'm not saying that people aren't racist. I'm not saying

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that people don't have prejudices and are bigot because individuals

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have their problem, but there is no institutional racism. Universities

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institutions in this country have have battalions of diversity officers

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whose sole job is to suss out this institutional racism,

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and it just doesn't exist, right, It's just it's just

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a remnant of a bygone era. People from institution aren't

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racist in this country, and yet you have this entire

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organizational structure that has to justify their relevance. So therefore, okay, well,

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we're gonna give money to these extreme fringe organizations to

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gin up something so that we can raise money off

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of it. Okay, that's that's what we're talking about at base.

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Allegedly what occurred here, Now the SPLC will say makes

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makes the point, Well, they're their defense. I don't think

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they're actually questioning the money going to these organizations because

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those are financial transactions. It's pretty objective the paper trail.

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But I think their defense, at least is from what

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I've understand, is their defense as well. We were trying

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to we're trying to get into the informants. Well, we're

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trying to pay informance in these groups. Okay, so you're

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you're a lawyer in wherever you are, and you're trying

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to manage uninformant. That's a job for law enforcement. Can

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you imagine Mike O'Neill, lawyer in Leedsburg, Virginia, trying to uh, okay,

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I know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna manage my

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informant in the kluplex Klan. Right. Yeah. I have the

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look law enforcement officers go through training and under specific

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orders and protocols and how they manage their enforcement. To

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imagine you have the arrogance to somehow think that you

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can manage informants in these groups and giving whatever amount

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of money to the Grand Wizard, somehow he's gonna do

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what you want him to do. I mean, that's just

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that's absurd on its face. So if that's their defense,

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I say good luck to them trying to show that

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and convince a jury that that's a viable defense. We'll see.

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Well, like you say, it's almost like the SBLC is

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a bit of a dinosaur here. They've outlived their reason

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to exist.

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So yeah, so.

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They're manufacturing a reason now, right.

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Yeah, absolutely, I mean it's it's we have a society

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has kind of moved on. And think about this also,

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when the Bostak decision came down decades ago, I think

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it was now sixteen or seventeen years ago, this is

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the gay marriage decision. Right, the Supreme coort recognizes that

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gay marriage is permissible. They didn't allow the states to

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come about it. They just kind of had this decision. Suddenly,

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all these organizations for decades, their their reason for existence

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was legalizing gay marriage, right, ensuring that home sexuals had

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had rights that everybody else did. Okay, let's we can

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get into that debate. That's another debate. But once you

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won that, you won that, you you had that opinion

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come out. Suddenly gay marriage is throughout the country. There

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is there is no anti homosexual agenda in the country, right,

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do you know anybody in the right minds who's like

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committed to you know, So what did they have to do?

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They had to move further, right, they had to move suddenly.

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Now the trans agenda is our reason for being. So

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now you had to move further and further to the

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to the to the fringes of extremism. And so what

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did we get. We got the boss suck decision, you

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can say. Okay, from at that point, that's when the

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trans agenda kind kind of came around. So this is

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what you're seeing these these organizations reasons for existence is

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no longer in place. We've kind of moved on from

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a societal standpoint of this, and yet they have to

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continue to operate and continue the grift.

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So they yeah, yeah, exactly, so they morph and guess what,

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they've already had years of experience, as you said, to

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perfect their grifting expertise.

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Right, yeah, And allegedly this is what you're seeing play

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out in real time. And it's good that the Department

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of Justice is holding them accountable for this. The more

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primitive stance that again, I think there's another part to this,

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and I think this is this is an issue. It's

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kind of near to my heart as somebody who's practicing

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this area is accountability from the IRS's standpoint. Look, as

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I said before, we enjoy privileged status as EXEPT the

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organizations we should be held to a higher standard. There's

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civil complication. There's civil issues here as well as criminal

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and that's in terms of the IRS revocation examinations of

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their tax statuses. Of tax statusis think about all those

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groups that received all that money at the tail end

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of the Biden administration. We're talking, oh my gosh, yeah,

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billions of dollars, right, billions of dollars, so that somebody

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has a soft somebody in the Biden administration has a

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soft landing spot when they leave government service, so they

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can go get a high six figure job in some

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NGO that just got an infusion of a million dollars,

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two million dollars in some sort of government grant. The

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EPA is doing a good job kind of clawing back

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and unwinding that. But I think there's clearly a role

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for the Internal Revenue Service here, and again I'm I

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don't come at that decision gently. You know, my position

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in this really easily because I know that the problems

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with the IRS particularly with exempt organizations back in the

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Obama administration. So I'm loosed to go down the path

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of empowering the irs. Nonetheless, when you look at the

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equities and you're talking about the amounts of money here

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a case, you clearly have to say and acknowledge that, Hey,

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we need to do something about these NGOs that are

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grifting off the American taxpayer. And I think it's important

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that we do that.

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Yeah, without a doubt. Well, Mike, you bring up some

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great points here, because you know the people are wondering,

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you know, what is going on with our text money.

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We're thirty nine trillion dollars in debt, We've got all

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this fraud going on. Social Security is about to go bankrupt,

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and we're not seeing any answers, there any resolution here.

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Yeah, it's it's gonna take a while. I mean it's

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it's not easy, but you see there's work. Look, there

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is progress being made. Let's be very clear. You saw

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the raids on the on the Somali communities up in Minnesota.

473
00:23:58.319 --> 00:24:00.559
There is something. You saw the indictment of the PLC.

474
00:24:00.640 --> 00:24:03.000
You start to fight back, you start to walk down

475
00:24:03.039 --> 00:24:05.759
that path. This is something that's been in existence. For decades.

476
00:24:05.759 --> 00:24:07.000
It's not going to be something that's going to be

477
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resolved in just a couple of months. You have to understand,

478
00:24:09.880 --> 00:24:13.200
these are these law enforcement agencies, these administrative agencies are

479
00:24:13.200 --> 00:24:18.319
limited resources. They're fighting really big battles against really sophisticated parties,

480
00:24:18.680 --> 00:24:20.599
and you have to start to stake you know, how

481
00:24:20.599 --> 00:24:21.680
do you eat an elephant? Right?

482
00:24:23.440 --> 00:24:28.079
Yeah, exactly. So with the interroads we're making now with

483
00:24:28.160 --> 00:24:33.640
the midterms, and you bring in the Democrats, all this

484
00:24:33.680 --> 00:24:35.720
stuff comes to a screeching halt, doesn't it.

485
00:24:36.599 --> 00:24:40.400
Well, I think it depends if assuming Democrats gain the

486
00:24:40.440 --> 00:24:43.079
House and the gain the control of the Congress, let's

487
00:24:43.079 --> 00:24:45.480
make that assumption. I don't think it really slows down

488
00:24:45.519 --> 00:24:49.279
the ability of the Department of Justice to continue their investigations.

489
00:24:49.319 --> 00:24:52.000
Now they will hold here, you know, Congress. If the

490
00:24:52.039 --> 00:24:54.960
Democrats take control, they'll hold healings, they'll do impeachments, they'll

491
00:24:54.960 --> 00:24:58.160
try to derail everything from a congressional perspective. But I

492
00:24:58.200 --> 00:25:02.039
think the work of the administrative of the Trump administration continues,

493
00:25:02.240 --> 00:25:04.359
so I don't think it's necessarily going to slow it down.

494
00:25:04.599 --> 00:25:08.200
I do think you could talk about, you know, they're

495
00:25:08.200 --> 00:25:10.039
going to do everything they can. They've done this before.

496
00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:12.759
We know this with the courts is through their lawfare.

497
00:25:12.799 --> 00:25:15.680
They're trying to slow this. They want to continue the grift, right.

498
00:25:15.720 --> 00:25:18.000
I mean I used to think that. I used to

499
00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:20.319
struggle with how are we going to balance our budget

500
00:25:20.480 --> 00:25:21.599
or how are we going to get a hold of

501
00:25:21.640 --> 00:25:23.960
our debts? I said, we just spend so much money.

502
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Now I've come to the conclusion that hey, if we

503
00:25:26.920 --> 00:25:28.799
can just start to if we could just start to

504
00:25:28.799 --> 00:25:33.359
address the waste for an abuse in the federal spendingly,

505
00:25:33.359 --> 00:25:35.000
everything's going to look a lot better. Right if we

506
00:25:35.079 --> 00:25:37.599
spend two if our budget, if we spend eight trillion

507
00:25:37.640 --> 00:25:40.599
dollars annually, which is just unfathomable, how much money that is,

508
00:25:40.839 --> 00:25:42.960
and if one and a half to two trillion of

509
00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:45.160
that is just waste for an abuse just goes to

510
00:25:45.279 --> 00:25:48.880
out the window for nonsense. Suddenly our budget and debt

511
00:25:50.160 --> 00:25:52.480
futures look a lot brighter. So I think that this

512
00:25:52.559 --> 00:25:56.119
is necessary that we do this again. Whether Congress flips

513
00:25:56.799 --> 00:25:58.279
is going to be something, but I think that the

514
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Trump administration is committed to doing this and they need

515
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to keep up their work.

516
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Exactly on behalf of we the people. No doubt he

517
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is with Landmark Legal. Micha O'Neil, Mike, thank you so much,

518
00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:08.480
appreciate it. Take care of my friend.

519
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Take care, but I'll talk to you there.

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Bill Martinez here for more information on the show, you know,

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Bill Martinez Live dot com. Jared Nott's going to join

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us in just a moment.

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He is a.

591
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Decorated combat infantry officer in Vietnam and the first Air

592
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Cavalry Division, author of Tiny Blunder's Big Disasters thirty nine

593
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Tiny Mistakes that Change the World Forever, and JAREDA just

594
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seems that the tiny mistakes just keep on coming.

595
00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:10.319
Huh, Well, you have tiny mistakes, we also have some

596
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big big mistakes.

597
00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:16.480
Yeah right, yeah, yeah, yes, yeah, exactly when it's almost

598
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like the tiny when when you get enough tiny ones

599
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together and they link, they have linkage, then they become

600
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big disasters.

601
00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:26.960
Right, I'm effect absolutely yes, yes, that's called the butterfly effect.

602
00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:30.279
Yes, right, exactly, well done and well written. I want

603
00:30:30.319 --> 00:30:33.400
to talk to you specifically about what's going on, uh

604
00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:38.359
with this Iranian clash over her moves. The closure. You know,

605
00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:40.960
you know I closed it first, No, I closed it,

606
00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:43.319
you know, back and forth. But you know the fact

607
00:30:43.319 --> 00:30:46.440
of the matter is when you've got this the American

608
00:30:46.759 --> 00:30:50.480
Armada there at the at the straight. It doesn't matter

609
00:30:50.519 --> 00:30:54.160
what Iran does. I mean, they're just not getting any money.

610
00:30:54.640 --> 00:30:57.279
There's no you know, there's no ships going in and

611
00:30:57.279 --> 00:31:00.640
going out. And the way this thing is being orchestrated.

612
00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:02.279
Trump says, hey, I don't even care if you're in

613
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:04.519
the straight of horror moves. If you're a threat and

614
00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:06.680
you're carrying Iranian oil, we're going to come after you.

615
00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:08.160
I don't care where you're at, right.

616
00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:10.559
I'll blow you up. That's right, Yeah, he's now. It

617
00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:13.920
looks like in the chess game. It's because the brinkmanship

618
00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:16.039
that they're going to the edge and making threats that

619
00:31:16.119 --> 00:31:18.039
are going to the edge, and we're falling through in

620
00:31:18.079 --> 00:31:21.440
our promises. But it looks as though he's got a

621
00:31:21.480 --> 00:31:25.680
real stranglehold on or wrong. They cannot continue like this

622
00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:28.440
for two weeks or three weeks. They're going to have

623
00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:30.720
to shut down all of the oil wells in the

624
00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:32.759
next ten days to two weeks because they have to

625
00:31:32.759 --> 00:31:34.839
stop pumping oil because they have no place to store

626
00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:37.759
the oil. That's a big, big setback, having shut down

627
00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:41.480
oil well and then all the trouble expensive getting it

628
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:43.279
started again. That's number one. Number two.

629
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:46.279
Yeah, it's not a matter of flipping the sweach, isn't.

630
00:31:46.480 --> 00:31:49.440
No, It's very complicated and very expensive and difficult. Even

631
00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:52.880
worse than that, they've not been able to pay their

632
00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:56.000
military or pay their police and some time now, well

633
00:31:56.319 --> 00:31:58.279
it's going to get old in a hurry if he

634
00:31:58.680 --> 00:32:01.440
fills the pay the family's order, whatever else. You have

635
00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:04.759
no paychecks coming in and then no money coming into regime,

636
00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:06.920
and their inflation and their money is at like one

637
00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:09.799
hundred and eighty percent. It's a it's a stranglehold of

638
00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:12.680
a chokehold. They have them all on. It's just a

639
00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:15.720
question of the weeks or days or even hours or

640
00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:18.160
weeks before they're going to have to do something. So

641
00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:21.920
I think optimist. I tend to be very pessimistic in

642
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:26.880
this whole situation. However, I with a Kirshner and also

643
00:32:27.799 --> 00:32:29.960
see Steve.

644
00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:32.799
Wick Off and then and then of course you got JD.

645
00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:33.559
Vance there too.

646
00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:36.000
He's staying back. He's staying back to not making the

647
00:32:36.039 --> 00:32:38.240
trip with those two. You're now speciently are going to

648
00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:40.680
go there to packet stamp and JD. Van is going

649
00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:43.799
to be standing in the background in the wigs, participating

650
00:32:43.839 --> 00:32:47.720
fully but it looks like the wheels maybe are starting

651
00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:50.200
to turn, and they're starting to turn because we've got

652
00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:54.359
a big heavy chokehold on the on the regime in Iran,

653
00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:58.839
and they may force a settlement that's the reasonable we hope.

654
00:32:59.559 --> 00:33:02.039
Well one hundred million dollars a day. It's estimated that

655
00:33:02.079 --> 00:33:05.400
they're losing right, correct, because ships aren't going in and

656
00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:09.039
out of the strait of horror moves. They're not, you know,

657
00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:13.680
so this looks terrible and how long can ron Stone,

658
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:18.720
you know, withstand this. Meanwhile, domestically inflation well over one

659
00:33:18.799 --> 00:33:22.720
hundred percent, so you already have people upset. They're reluctant

660
00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:25.759
to get back on the streets because in Januaries, you know,

661
00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:27.960
they got on the streets and they mowed down something

662
00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:30.920
like they're saying forty and I've had other reports saying

663
00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:33.960
as much as eighty eighty thousand people they mowed down.

664
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:37.039
Jared know, of course, I just hear the reports. Maybe

665
00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:40.359
no one knows the exec number the ring machine itself,

666
00:33:40.359 --> 00:33:42.599
for she was celebated of the exec number. But thirty

667
00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:46.799
five thousand, forty thousand imagined a stadium filled with forty

668
00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:50.240
thousand people, right, They're murdered. That's one thing that's better.

669
00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:50.519
Now.

670
00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:54.160
Many times they're tortured, yes, their moves or eyes again,

671
00:33:54.359 --> 00:33:57.400
put them all of torture, the finement, hang them just

672
00:33:57.440 --> 00:34:01.160
a heinousse, as evil as any group on the planet.

673
00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:03.640
That's what they're going through. And of course the eighty

674
00:34:03.680 --> 00:34:06.359
five percent of the people you know, rom would be

675
00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:08.239
happy to have a new regime. But it's the ten

676
00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:11.000
or fifteen percent with the guns that hold the power,

677
00:34:11.039 --> 00:34:14.440
and that's the deadlock that we have. I don't know

678
00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:16.800
if regime change is going to be possible, but hopefully

679
00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:22.639
we can get a reasonable, a logical outcome that the

680
00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:27.039
brainians agree to. And they are not as unhinged as

681
00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:28.559
we sometimes think they are.

682
00:34:29.239 --> 00:34:35.039
Is the I rjc GC as ideological, ideologically fixed as

683
00:34:35.079 --> 00:34:37.400
these you know, the spiritual leaders.

684
00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:41.000
I think it's about the same the leader of Parliament,

685
00:34:41.360 --> 00:34:43.840
and I think they say even I told a junior

686
00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:45.760
who are supposed to be moving in the direction of

687
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:47.920
working out some kind of a deal, and it was

688
00:34:47.960 --> 00:34:51.400
the military as you refer to them, right, that they

689
00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:53.639
were wanting to put a hall to it. But of

690
00:34:53.639 --> 00:34:55.960
course you don't get any paychecks, you don't have any

691
00:34:55.960 --> 00:34:58.599
money coming in you start to strangle the death and

692
00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:01.840
at some point even the finance as we finally hopefully

693
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:04.360
see reason, it's easy to do the right thing. We

694
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:06.840
won't have the other choice. So we might be may

695
00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:09.679
be able to force them in to a reasonable agreement,

696
00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:11.440
we certainly hope.

697
00:35:11.480 --> 00:35:12.599
So we can't.

698
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:14.519
It's not going to come from within. It's not that

699
00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:16.920
they're going to see the light, but as ronal ready

700
00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:18.280
used to say, they're not going to see the light,

701
00:35:18.320 --> 00:35:19.519
but they're going to feel the heat.

702
00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:22.960
Right well, and this is a group that has the

703
00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:26.280
mentality of a death cult. This seems to be their

704
00:35:26.360 --> 00:35:30.320
character that they have demonstrated for decades. And it's not

705
00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:34.920
real surprising for the way the Arabs react and have

706
00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:37.559
been reacting for thousands of years there in the Middle East.

707
00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:39.639
So no big surprise here, right.

708
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:43.159
No, And BEAUTI look for comparisons in the history, whereas

709
00:35:43.159 --> 00:35:48.960
there been a similar situation. Isaera said that Hiler was

710
00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:52.679
a member of the criminally Insane. Well maybe he's a parallel,

711
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:56.239
but also go back kind of surprise my missions to

712
00:35:56.280 --> 00:35:58.920
some people. But you remember the branch Davidian and.

713
00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:01.800
They wish to right exactly thirty years ago.

714
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:04.400
Well, he's not leading a nation. But he was willing

715
00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:07.679
to die for his cause and take a great, big

716
00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:10.599
conflagration and they're shooting his own followers, a great big,

717
00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:14.039
huge congregation, a great out of blaze of glory and

718
00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:17.840
feeling very significant. All human beings want to be significant,

719
00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:21.920
and if your reasonal person resignificant in a pro social way,

720
00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:25.119
he was trying to be significant in this hard, horrific way.

721
00:36:25.480 --> 00:36:27.400
That he has a lot in common with the leaders

722
00:36:27.559 --> 00:36:30.400
radical leaders there Baron, when they die, they're going to

723
00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:33.280
go to heaven, and haven't mentioned with seventy virgins or

724
00:36:33.280 --> 00:36:36.920
forty purges or whatever nonsense. They believe they're willing to

725
00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:40.159
die and maybe want to die. That's the kind of

726
00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:41.360
people that we're dealing with.

727
00:36:41.840 --> 00:36:43.960
Well, another religious fanatic, as you know, out of San

728
00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:46.599
Francisco was James Jones, right.

729
00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:50.639
Oh yeah, that's right, that's right, gonna and he was

730
00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:54.039
killing his followers and he didn't commit suicide. Somebody shot

731
00:36:54.079 --> 00:36:56.480
him in the back to Betty didn't do it about

732
00:36:56.480 --> 00:36:59.480
an hour sooner. Even though he was not he was

733
00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:03.920
not just it was it was flavor aid. It was

734
00:37:04.599 --> 00:37:06.480
it was a flavor aid that he had to make

735
00:37:06.519 --> 00:37:09.599
a poison flavor aid and they're all dying. Come to

736
00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:13.960
meet children, Come to me children. Human race produces some nutcases.

737
00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:18.119
Sometimes with nutcases are positions of power, and a lot

738
00:37:18.159 --> 00:37:20.880
of pain and torture comes as a result.

739
00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:24.000
Well, the reason I ask about the ideology of the

740
00:37:24.039 --> 00:37:28.679
IRGC is that on the surfaces, you know, being an

741
00:37:28.679 --> 00:37:32.360
infantry officer, I mean the mentality of a mercenary is

742
00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:37.320
different than somebody who is really you know, committed to

743
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:41.480
the theocracy or you know, call it what you want,

744
00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:44.159
the ideology of their mission.

745
00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:48.480
Yes, there was a mercenary. You're going to deal with that.

746
00:37:48.559 --> 00:37:52.239
They want money, yeah right, there want material things. Well,

747
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:54.199
that way to talk to you, that way you understand

748
00:37:54.400 --> 00:37:56.000
and we can relate to even though they're on the

749
00:37:56.199 --> 00:37:58.480
many times on the wrong side of the line. But

750
00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:01.039
we have people with money means nothing to the human

751
00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:04.360
life means nothing to them, and their own continued existence

752
00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:06.679
means nothing to them. And they liked the idea of

753
00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:10.000
dying as markers or there's twisted work costs. They're the

754
00:38:10.079 --> 00:38:13.000
most difficult people of all to deal with. I also

755
00:38:13.079 --> 00:38:17.159
might mention this, there was an expert on a nuclear expert.

756
00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:20.119
He was on squad box just about three or four

757
00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:23.639
days ago. Everything was said David Albright, and he charged

758
00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:28.400
the large scientific organization. He say, a nuclear inspection expert

759
00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:30.559
has been involved in these issues in the past, and

760
00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:34.360
he was saying, based on their information that the Iranians

761
00:38:34.360 --> 00:38:38.559
were only six months away from being able to turn

762
00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:43.000
their nuclear material into nuclear weapons, into a nuclear momb

763
00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:45.199
that they could put on the tips of their missiles.

764
00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:48.599
And he said that some estimates for three months. His

765
00:38:48.719 --> 00:38:51.679
estimate his group was six months. Well six months. That

766
00:38:51.800 --> 00:38:55.599
means that's in Octobers, before the midterms. So those people

767
00:38:55.639 --> 00:38:57.239
think we should make weight left for the mid term.

768
00:38:57.320 --> 00:38:59.559
And by the way, we just kind of paused a second.

769
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:06.159
I can't imagine anything more Nightmary terrific than those fanatics

770
00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:09.440
that are on having ten or eleven nuclear weapons, nuclear

771
00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:12.480
missiles right for exactly they blow up. Tell her the

772
00:39:12.679 --> 00:39:15.559
first of all, it's help they blow up. They're on

773
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:18.119
I don't know. The second when they can blow up,

774
00:39:18.119 --> 00:39:21.159
they range their missiles to get wrong, they blow up wrong,

775
00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:24.119
the blow Paris, London. Oh they wouldn't do that, Oh

776
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:25.519
yes they would, Oh yes.

777
00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:29.000
Right, exactly, yeah they would. They would do it as

778
00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:31.480
much as the Democrats would blow up the filibuster. But

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Hey, welcome back del Martinez here, which are not the

857
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decorated combat infantry officer in Vietnam in the first Cavalry

858
00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:49.519
Division and author of Tiny Blunders, Big Disasters, and the

859
00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:54.920
Jared Issue. We're saying that you know these uh uh,

860
00:43:56.480 --> 00:43:59.880
I don't know these idea logues they're just so in,

861
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:04.760
so committed and so crazy by Western standards, and it's

862
00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:08.000
hard for people on the West to really understand this

863
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:10.519
kind of barbarism. As you were talking about the way.

864
00:44:10.840 --> 00:44:13.840
You know, it's terrible enough that they slaughtered people, but

865
00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:17.199
reports are coming out, uh, with what they did with women,

866
00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:20.400
that they would they they would mass rape these women,

867
00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:23.199
they would gang rape them, and you know you're going

868
00:44:23.280 --> 00:44:25.480
to die, and they abuse the holy what have you

869
00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:28.840
out of you? And then they uh you know, then

870
00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:32.039
they gang rape you just for you know, I guess

871
00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:33.679
for the cherry on top, so to speak.

872
00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:38.760
Yes, you are lay out of the spectrum of the

873
00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:41.599
best people on earth. The Teresa people like her went

874
00:44:41.679 --> 00:44:43.960
in and the most evil people on earth at the

875
00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:47.320
other end, Uh, the leaders of Aron would be there,

876
00:44:47.400 --> 00:44:51.239
and they're there with a special twist. A criminal may

877
00:44:51.320 --> 00:44:53.719
want money, he may want your freedom, may want to

878
00:44:54.199 --> 00:44:58.280
say these whatever, But the these people want something in

879
00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:01.679
the next life. I think you want something to die

880
00:45:01.719 --> 00:45:05.199
for their cause, maybe want something fanatical, and you can't

881
00:45:05.239 --> 00:45:08.639
give them anything that would satisfy them. But you can,

882
00:45:08.840 --> 00:45:12.440
as were mentioning earlier, they can be strangled nearly to

883
00:45:12.519 --> 00:45:15.599
get there. All their money cut off all their weapons,

884
00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:18.159
that cut off, the supplies cut off. They can be

885
00:45:18.880 --> 00:45:23.079
forced into an agreement kind of very much against the

886
00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:25.840
will when they pay their troops and they cannot pay

887
00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:29.800
the military, when they don't shut down their oil wells.

888
00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:33.360
When it is forced into a corner, then finally that

889
00:45:33.519 --> 00:45:35.840
kind of a force, that kind of a military pressure,

890
00:45:36.119 --> 00:45:40.519
can make them take the steps that they need to take.

891
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:42.000
That's where we're going, that's what we want.

892
00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:45.039
Can we get an unconditional surrender out of them?

893
00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:47.039
I don't think so. I don't think so. I know

894
00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:49.440
we're going to be lucky to be able to get

895
00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:52.559
a reasonable off ramp in which they give up their

896
00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:56.239
access to the nuclear material, in which they stop spreading

897
00:45:56.519 --> 00:45:59.280
terrorism in the Middle East or at least greatly reduce it.

898
00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:01.960
We can get those two things out of the situation,

899
00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:05.679
eliminate the nuclear threat, eliminate their pressure in other countries,

900
00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:08.559
but the regime still stays in power. We can get

901
00:46:08.599 --> 00:46:11.280
that far. That would be a victory. We may have

902
00:46:11.320 --> 00:46:14.039
to take it now. It could be with the help

903
00:46:14.079 --> 00:46:16.280
of the CIA or whatever. That the people that are

904
00:46:16.360 --> 00:46:18.599
on eighty five percent of whom we'd love to have

905
00:46:18.639 --> 00:46:21.519
a different regime. They may be able to rise up

906
00:46:21.559 --> 00:46:25.000
against their oppressors, but remember they have like a million

907
00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:28.760
men under arms and who are mental in their own right,

908
00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:31.400
and so that's going to be a very very nut

909
00:46:31.440 --> 00:46:32.480
to crack, all right.

910
00:46:33.320 --> 00:46:35.800
You know, I've suggested maybe the Curds get involved.

911
00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:38.480
What do you think that was suggested even three or

912
00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:41.000
four weeks ago, and they were saying they thought they

913
00:46:41.000 --> 00:46:43.719
were turning that down. Donald Trump was and I don't

914
00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:46.079
know exactly why. Maybe they thought that because just a

915
00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:49.159
confusion or would not be affected. I don't know why

916
00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:51.400
they said not to them, but that seems like attempting

917
00:46:51.440 --> 00:46:54.360
the idea. Maybe it starts with the curves and spreads

918
00:46:54.360 --> 00:46:55.679
in the north and then they could spread to the

919
00:46:55.760 --> 00:46:58.199
country or something. But they I'm sure they thought that out,

920
00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:00.119
and they have reasons why they don't think that it's

921
00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:03.360
going to be effective. Though it would be a possible

922
00:47:03.400 --> 00:47:05.639
solution as a late person looking at it for a

923
00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:08.760
thousands miles away, but they're probably good reasons why they

924
00:47:08.760 --> 00:47:09.559
don't think it would.

925
00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:12.920
Work, right exactly, Well, the deal is, I also look

926
00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:14.960
at you know, this is a bit of an octopus here.

927
00:47:15.440 --> 00:47:18.239
It runs the head, but you still got tentacles in Lebanon.

928
00:47:18.679 --> 00:47:22.480
You've got the tentacles with the hoodies, and still you've

929
00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:26.199
got Hamasque controlling about forty five percent of the Gaza.

930
00:47:26.400 --> 00:47:30.679
So you've got to uproot all all this mess, do

931
00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:33.239
you not? And the only way to do it is

932
00:47:33.280 --> 00:47:37.400
it's gonna I mean again, you're an infantry officer. You

933
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:41.360
know that air power and navy can give you so much.

934
00:47:41.840 --> 00:47:44.760
But if you're looking for an unconditional surrender and to

935
00:47:44.840 --> 00:47:49.760
get this insanity uprooted out of these areas, I don't

936
00:47:49.800 --> 00:47:52.239
know how you do it without without ground forces.

937
00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:57.440
Well, then they can cut off the money supplying these groups,

938
00:47:57.960 --> 00:48:01.639
supplying moss and hoodies and so on, I think. And

939
00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:05.159
all the money that October the seventh was financed through

940
00:48:05.199 --> 00:48:08.920
Iran has gone. The military support has gone, the logistics

941
00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:12.079
are gone, and it's pressure put on the lawn to

942
00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:14.320
pull them in, keep them under under control.

943
00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:14.960
Uh.

944
00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:18.639
That is, it's sort of like branches of the evil

945
00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:24.400
tree and effectively neutralize the tree itself, the court itself.

946
00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:28.599
Those branches are maybe able to be controlled also. That

947
00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:31.559
would be the hope is without the support of Iran,

948
00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:33.199
they would wither to.

949
00:48:33.159 --> 00:48:37.000
Some extent right well, as you said, earlier. I mean,

950
00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:39.440
this kind of cracked me up. I mean, they go

951
00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:42.920
into negotiations, this was the first round of negotiations, and

952
00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:46.880
they arrogantly say they've got enough uranium and enrich uranium

953
00:48:47.199 --> 00:48:52.280
to build eleven nukes, Like we need further discussion here.

954
00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:54.400
I mean, I mean, come on, give me a break.

955
00:48:55.320 --> 00:48:57.639
You know, I was surprised, but it speaks of their

956
00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:02.840
arrogance and confidence. I mean maybe, I mean, somebody's fulling somebody.

957
00:49:03.280 --> 00:49:05.880
Either they're fooling themselves or they're fooling us.

958
00:49:06.199 --> 00:49:09.679
Well, I think that it's considered credible that they have

959
00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:13.760
a thousand pounds of rich uranium and that's enough for

960
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:17.039
ten or eleven nuclear weapons. In fact, it's expert that

961
00:49:17.159 --> 00:49:21.719
David Albright, it was referring to that very thing, went

962
00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:24.360
back to the same subject again. I cannot tell you, Oh,

963
00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:28.360
it cannot be overstated how extremely dangerous that situation is.

964
00:49:28.920 --> 00:49:31.679
Six months, by the way, he says, now, with all

965
00:49:31.719 --> 00:49:34.119
the damage that's been done, it's been pushed back at

966
00:49:34.199 --> 00:49:37.760
least two years. Yeah, that's good, but they had done

967
00:49:38.679 --> 00:49:41.599
October or September. October some people said three months six

968
00:49:41.639 --> 00:49:43.920
to through October they had ten nuclear weapons.

969
00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:48.800
Oh, my gosh, Yeah, can we trust this intel? Jered,

970
00:49:49.000 --> 00:49:51.679
I mean this seems to be all estimates, you know,

971
00:49:51.960 --> 00:49:57.880
we really, I mean, we trust, but verify, and you know,

972
00:49:57.920 --> 00:50:02.320
we're just hoping upon hope that the intel is correct

973
00:50:02.320 --> 00:50:05.079
that we're getting from you know, from Israel, from the

974
00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:09.280
CIA and our other information services for America.

975
00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:12.679
Well, of course, while they're not perfect, they got surprised

976
00:50:12.679 --> 00:50:15.960
in October the seventh in Masad. The intelligence system for

977
00:50:16.159 --> 00:50:19.639
Israel has been extremely extremely successful. We killed an awful

978
00:50:19.719 --> 00:50:21.559
lot of the leaders by knowing where they were at

979
00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:25.440
any particular moment, any particular time, and so the information

980
00:50:25.559 --> 00:50:28.159
we have is probably pretty good. As one advantage that

981
00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:31.639
the West had. We have exquisite information about the location

982
00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:35.320
and the behavior of the leaders. And I would prefer

983
00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:38.679
the location of this nuclear material. They think they know

984
00:50:38.760 --> 00:50:41.480
where it is. It's buried at certain place. They're watching

985
00:50:41.519 --> 00:50:43.760
it very closely. If the Raneans were to go there

986
00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:45.960
and try to dig it up, there would be an

987
00:50:46.639 --> 00:50:51.880
action that could result there. So it's hopefully under control,

988
00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:53.800
and if we follow through with where we are, we

989
00:50:53.840 --> 00:50:56.119
can have a good chance of eliminating maybe even taking

990
00:50:56.119 --> 00:50:58.840
physical possession of it. Or there's we're talking about putting

991
00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:02.519
out a kind of a special agent that puts a

992
00:51:02.639 --> 00:51:06.400
very deadly gas into location that would last for one

993
00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:08.559
hundred years. You couldn't go near it for one hundred years.

994
00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:11.360
Maybe different things that could be done there. So I

995
00:51:11.360 --> 00:51:14.039
think now that we're moving the wheels of the atturny,

996
00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:16.880
we've been so effective with everything else, I think that

997
00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:19.239
we should be able to control a knock on wood.

998
00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:25.119
Those people. It's scary to think if Kamala Harris had

999
00:51:25.159 --> 00:51:28.559
been president of the United States, Yeah, yeah, this would happen,

1000
00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:31.840
and they would have nuclear weapons, and oh my god, God,

1001
00:51:31.880 --> 00:51:36.079
it's bad enough Korea has nuclear weapons. But evil as

1002
00:51:36.079 --> 00:51:38.880
they are, the hands are dipped in blood. They are

1003
00:51:38.920 --> 00:51:43.920
at least rational. If they understand safety and money and

1004
00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:46.360
so on and so forth, they respond like an intelligent person.

1005
00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:50.599
These people they're around are different football together. Money means

1006
00:51:50.639 --> 00:51:52.920
nothing to their lives, mean nothing to their own lives,

1007
00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:55.480
mean nothing to the Dealing with people just way off

1008
00:51:55.519 --> 00:51:59.840
the deep end, scariest kind of human being they have to.

1009
00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:03.840
Deal well, whether it's Kamala Harris or any other Democrat

1010
00:52:03.880 --> 00:52:06.480
for that matter. I mean, hey, look at Bill Clinton's

1011
00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:10.679
had his fingerprints on this Barack Obama certainly even more

1012
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:13.000
so with pallets of cash at the dark of night,

1013
00:52:13.480 --> 00:52:16.920
you know, with unmarked bills over a billion dollar billion

1014
00:52:16.920 --> 00:52:22.559
and a half plus, which basically financed their terror activities.

1015
00:52:23.239 --> 00:52:25.800
And not to mention that, but you took sanctions off

1016
00:52:26.039 --> 00:52:29.119
Joe Biden, what he did, how he mishandled this whole situation.

1017
00:52:29.639 --> 00:52:33.119
I mean, this has been, you know, a bundled mess

1018
00:52:33.159 --> 00:52:33.840
from day one.

1019
00:52:34.920 --> 00:52:38.719
Yes, history, as according Jimmy Carter of all people, but

1020
00:52:38.800 --> 00:52:43.199
he said, history teats teaches very few clear messages, and

1021
00:52:43.239 --> 00:52:48.039
one of them is that ignored aggression simply expands the aggression. Well,

1022
00:52:48.079 --> 00:52:51.639
if you have appease, appeasement just makes the situation worse.

1023
00:52:51.719 --> 00:52:54.599
If you give them cash, if you give them concessions,

1024
00:52:54.599 --> 00:52:57.440
if you give them victories, it just it takes it problem,

1025
00:52:57.559 --> 00:53:00.000
makes it ten twenty times worse for the devil chain

1026
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:01.800
and being the most obviously.

1027
00:53:01.559 --> 00:53:03.559
I was going to say, what did what did World

1028
00:53:03.559 --> 00:53:05.840
War one and two in Vietnam? I mean, go down

1029
00:53:05.840 --> 00:53:07.519
on the list. What did it teach us?

1030
00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:10.159
Yeah, of course, getting off the plane there in nineteen

1031
00:53:10.400 --> 00:53:13.519
thirty eight, I think it was, Yes, the document that

1032
00:53:13.599 --> 00:53:17.079
we have achieved peace in our time yeah, last very long,

1033
00:53:17.119 --> 00:53:22.000
did it? Going way back to World War One, Berging

1034
00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:24.360
was a brilliant general, some people say, one of the

1035
00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:26.760
great best generals the United States that were produced for

1036
00:53:26.840 --> 00:53:29.480
US coming out of West Point. And he was insistent

1037
00:53:29.599 --> 00:53:33.719
that we have unconditional surrender in World War One. He said,

1038
00:53:33.719 --> 00:53:37.480
if we do not get unconditional surrender, they would just

1039
00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:39.480
lick their wounds and come after us again. And they

1040
00:53:39.559 --> 00:53:42.280
put it bled arm totally. Just to be quiet, You're

1041
00:53:42.360 --> 00:53:46.239
just in the military arm. Politicians will make these decisions. Right,

1042
00:53:46.360 --> 00:53:49.119
an agreement, there was a surrender, but definitely a long

1043
00:53:49.159 --> 00:53:52.440
way from being unconditional surrender. And sure enough, twenty fives

1044
00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:55.199
some id years later, here they are again. So that

1045
00:53:55.360 --> 00:53:58.920
was and they wisely in World War Two, we could

1046
00:53:58.920 --> 00:54:01.760
have accepted a fairly generous peace on the part of

1047
00:54:01.840 --> 00:54:05.719
the military leaders of Japan. They're willing to surrender, but

1048
00:54:05.800 --> 00:54:07.760
they were not willing to give us an unconditional surrender.

1049
00:54:07.760 --> 00:54:09.480
By the way, they have a kind of an early

1050
00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:12.280
retirement program. They had to cut their stomach out with

1051
00:54:12.360 --> 00:54:18.960
Harry Carey, so they're reluctant to disgraceful surrender anyway. So

1052
00:54:19.800 --> 00:54:24.360
we consisted, insisted on an unconditional surrender for Japan as

1053
00:54:24.400 --> 00:54:27.159
well as for Germany. If we'd let Hitler place my gosh,

1054
00:54:27.159 --> 00:54:30.320
I would have been a nightmare. With a military demanding place,

1055
00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:34.360
that would have been a nightmare. Unconditional surrender was absolutely

1056
00:54:34.440 --> 00:54:36.320
needed for situations. I don't think we're going to be

1057
00:54:36.360 --> 00:54:39.519
able to get it, and'll be able to accomplished major

1058
00:54:39.679 --> 00:54:42.239
detives is all we could hope exactly.

1059
00:54:42.360 --> 00:54:44.960
Well, Jared not thank you for being with us. He

1060
00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:51.639
is a Vietnam VET First Air Cavalry Division Decorated Infantry

1061
00:54:52.119 --> 00:54:55.760
officer and author of Tiny Blunders and Big Disasters. Jared,

1062
00:54:55.800 --> 00:54:56.599
thank you for being with us.

1063
00:54:56.639 --> 00:54:58.599
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Eight hundred six nine nine oh three five eight, eight

1080
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hundred six nine nine oh three five eight eight hundred

1081
00:55:52.719 --> 00:55:56.000
six nine nine oh three five eight. That's eight hundred

1082
00:55:56.159 --> 00:55:58.639
six nine nine zero three fifty eight.

1083
00:56:05.360 --> 00:56:10.639
Getting America back on track, Bill Martinez Live, Well.

1084
00:56:10.480 --> 00:56:12.679
Good morning, six minutes after the top of the hour,

1085
00:56:12.719 --> 00:56:15.199
Bill Martinez here. Great to have you with us. It's

1086
00:56:15.239 --> 00:56:17.639
also great to have back with us. It's been a

1087
00:56:17.679 --> 00:56:21.639
minute or two. Victoria Jackson and the one and only.

1088
00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:24.320
How you doing, lady, Good, Good to talk to you again.

1089
00:56:24.360 --> 00:56:25.159
You look terrific.

1090
00:56:25.679 --> 00:56:26.679
You look terrific.

1091
00:56:27.079 --> 00:56:29.559
I mean for somebody who's not dead yet. You say

1092
00:56:29.599 --> 00:56:33.719
in your book, what do I look alive? Very much so?

1093
00:56:34.039 --> 00:56:36.280
And you know, but it's so good. I mean, you know,

1094
00:56:36.320 --> 00:56:39.199
all the times we run even at NRB, we've run

1095
00:56:39.199 --> 00:56:42.519
into and you know, we've talked. You know, I've had

1096
00:56:42.519 --> 00:56:44.679
you on the show maybe three or four times. And

1097
00:56:44.760 --> 00:56:47.079
I was telling you before we went on, is that

1098
00:56:47.239 --> 00:56:51.280
I'm a little disturbed because here I am finding after

1099
00:56:51.320 --> 00:56:53.880
all the times and things we've talked about, I'm finding

1100
00:56:53.920 --> 00:56:56.960
out new stuff about you. Your gymnastics background. How come

1101
00:56:57.000 --> 00:57:00.039
you didn't tell me about that?

1102
00:57:00.079 --> 00:57:01.280
You never asked?

1103
00:57:06.840 --> 00:57:10.559
Well anyway, no, but me know, it's good that. I

1104
00:57:10.559 --> 00:57:14.360
mean you you have. There's such a breath to your

1105
00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:18.440
personality it just never ends. And so why not? I mean,

1106
00:57:19.159 --> 00:57:21.880
is there any place in the world that you haven't

1107
00:57:23.039 --> 00:57:24.239
you know, done a handstand?

1108
00:57:26.599 --> 00:57:28.800
I have not done it in North Korea?

1109
00:57:29.480 --> 00:57:32.239
Okay, all right, okay, is that on your bucket list?

1110
00:57:32.920 --> 00:57:33.199
No?

1111
00:57:33.719 --> 00:57:35.599
Okay, I do not want to go there.

1112
00:57:35.639 --> 00:57:37.719
I heard it's very dangerous.

1113
00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:41.079
Yeah, but maybe you might. You might loosen them up

1114
00:57:41.079 --> 00:57:44.199
a little bit, just you know, by showing them a handstand,

1115
00:57:44.199 --> 00:57:45.599
because there's an art to it, right.

1116
00:57:46.880 --> 00:57:50.119
Well, the whole thing about the handstand. The reason I

1117
00:57:50.199 --> 00:57:55.360
put together this book is well, when I was in

1118
00:57:55.400 --> 00:57:58.960
my thirties and a mom, I had an accident in

1119
00:57:59.000 --> 00:58:02.320
a dishwasher and I accidentally cut my wrist with a

1120
00:58:02.400 --> 00:58:08.760
glass not on purpose, subconscious that I didn't like housework,

1121
00:58:08.880 --> 00:58:12.199
but it was not on purpose, and I realized for

1122
00:58:12.239 --> 00:58:16.239
the first time, I can't do a handstand anymore. Because

1123
00:58:16.280 --> 00:58:20.760
I had surgery on my wrist. Kevin Neilan asked me

1124
00:58:20.840 --> 00:58:24.639
to open for him in Vegas doing stand up and

1125
00:58:24.679 --> 00:58:28.840
I said, Kevin, I don't even I don't have an

1126
00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:31.639
as stand up act, and he goes, no, you know

1127
00:58:31.760 --> 00:58:35.000
what you used to do on Johnny Carson, And I said, oh,

1128
00:58:35.440 --> 00:58:37.559
what did I do? So I went and looked at

1129
00:58:37.599 --> 00:58:40.199
my old tapes and part of my act was doing

1130
00:58:40.199 --> 00:58:44.960
a handstand reciting poetry. Okay, well that's three minutes that

1131
00:58:45.079 --> 00:58:48.559
I can't do. What else did I do? Play the ukulele,

1132
00:58:48.960 --> 00:58:54.480
talk about my life? So I started to appreciate the handstand,

1133
00:58:54.519 --> 00:58:57.320
and then I realized I had photos of me doing

1134
00:58:57.360 --> 00:59:00.440
it since I was born, and my father doing it

1135
00:59:00.480 --> 00:59:04.320
because he was a women's gymnastics coach, right, and I

1136
00:59:04.320 --> 00:59:06.320
had pictures of him doing it on top of his

1137
00:59:06.880 --> 00:59:13.679
Ford Opera coop in nineteen fifty nineteen fifty at and

1138
00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:17.239
really great pictures like that. And he took a picture

1139
00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:19.880
of me on my first car when I was a teenager,

1140
00:59:20.519 --> 00:59:24.639
and I realized and then I started thinking, Wow, now

1141
00:59:24.679 --> 00:59:27.719
that I'm doing stand up in cities all across America

1142
00:59:27.760 --> 00:59:32.400
and Canada and sometimes Europe, why don't I take a

1143
00:59:32.480 --> 00:59:38.559
handstand photo in every city as a souvenir. And then

1144
00:59:38.719 --> 00:59:43.079
I also wrote poems since I was a child, and

1145
00:59:43.360 --> 00:59:46.840
I wanted to put them all together, my poems on

1146
00:59:46.920 --> 00:59:51.840
my handstands chronologically to look at my life from child

1147
00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:57.199
to old lady and see what it looked like. And

1148
00:59:57.280 --> 00:59:59.280
then when I got so I've always had that in

1149
00:59:59.320 --> 01:00:02.199
the back of my and then when I got diagnosed

1150
01:00:02.199 --> 01:00:12.039
with stage four terminal, inoperable metastasized breast cancer two years ago,

1151
01:00:13.440 --> 01:00:17.480
I thought, well, I better do it now, you know,

1152
01:00:18.480 --> 01:00:21.760
get your things in order. Like God said to Hezekiah,

1153
01:00:21.840 --> 01:00:24.360
you're gonna fine soon. Get your things in order. So

1154
01:00:24.760 --> 01:00:28.039
me and my husband went and got a grave, we

1155
01:00:28.280 --> 01:00:34.480
actually a crypt, which is a drawer, and we and

1156
01:00:35.039 --> 01:00:37.880
I made a will, and I made my book my

1157
01:00:38.079 --> 01:00:39.039
final tone.

1158
01:00:40.199 --> 01:00:45.119
Here it is. And you know, in the situation again

1159
01:00:45.199 --> 01:00:47.719
with the handstand, in hearing about you and your father

1160
01:00:47.960 --> 01:00:51.440
and he was a gymnastics teacher and all this, I

1161
01:00:52.239 --> 01:00:55.360
could only imagine that if anybody came into the household,

1162
01:00:56.599 --> 01:00:58.280
you know, part of the qualifying is that you had

1163
01:00:58.320 --> 01:01:01.920
to do a handstand before you crossed over the you know,

1164
01:01:02.119 --> 01:01:03.400
into the doorway, right.

1165
01:01:03.639 --> 01:01:06.760
Well, you didn't have to, but he would teach anyone

1166
01:01:06.920 --> 01:01:11.239
who was willing. He loved teaching gymnastics. He had a

1167
01:01:11.360 --> 01:01:14.519
passion for it, and so we had a gym in

1168
01:01:14.559 --> 01:01:19.880
our backyard. He taught classes every day after school, and

1169
01:01:20.159 --> 01:01:22.880
up until he was eighty years old he was teaching.

1170
01:01:23.760 --> 01:01:26.280
Wow, that's great. Well, I love the quote from Orwell

1171
01:01:26.360 --> 01:01:29.119
that you have in the book. You are noticed more

1172
01:01:29.360 --> 01:01:32.960
if you stand on your head than if you are

1173
01:01:33.079 --> 01:01:36.679
right way up. George Orwell, of course is noted for that.

1174
01:01:37.360 --> 01:01:39.840
Maybe that might be appropriate for some of the politicians

1175
01:01:39.880 --> 01:01:40.280
in DC.

1176
01:01:40.440 --> 01:01:43.480
What do you think, Well, first of all, what a

1177
01:01:43.519 --> 01:01:46.840
funny quote to come from the George Orwell who wrote

1178
01:01:46.840 --> 01:01:53.079
the book nineteen eighty four and Animal Farm. He I

1179
01:01:53.239 --> 01:01:55.760
was looking him up one day and I stumbled on

1180
01:01:55.800 --> 01:01:59.840
that quote, and I was like, because I love George Orwell, right,

1181
01:02:00.280 --> 01:02:05.320
I'm fighting communism too. When Obama was the president, I

1182
01:02:05.360 --> 01:02:10.599
was like, people, he's a communist. And nobody was listening

1183
01:02:10.599 --> 01:02:16.039
to me but maybe a few people. But because Obama

1184
01:02:16.079 --> 01:02:19.559
said spread the wealth and not the direct quote from

1185
01:02:19.559 --> 01:02:23.440
the Communist manifesto, which I learned about in my private

1186
01:02:23.519 --> 01:02:28.639
Christian school in between doing handstands, Hey Bill, should I

1187
01:02:28.679 --> 01:02:30.800
go get my books? I can hold it up.

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Yeah, you can. You can do well, tell you what

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in just a minute, because we'll go to break and

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then when we're on break, you can do that. And

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because also in the first part of the book titled

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not Dead Yet you know a lifetime of handstands and handstands,

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art and poetry, you also explained everybody, and this is

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a teaching lesson for us, is how to hold a handstand?

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Yes. First of all, standing on your head is different

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than a handstand. Yes, easier to stand on your head

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because you have three things touching the ground. When you

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do a handstand, you only have your hands touching the ground.

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And so I thought people were probably curious how you

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do it, So I teach them in the second page

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of the book, just so that they can practice and

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learn it. It takes five years to learn.

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It, does it really five years?

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Yeah?

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Maybe? Because you know what, and you're right, I'm glad

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you differentiated the fact that difference between a handstand and

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a headstand. Right. So I'm glad you did that because

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you know, when I first you know, saw this, I said,

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well I could do that. I haven't attempted to do

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the handstand yet, but now you tell me this is

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going to be a five year project.

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Oh, yes, it is. You see you over, you kick up,

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You put your best foot forward. That's how my dad

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teaches little girls. If they're left handed, they stick their

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left foot out automatically. It's funny. Most people are right handed, though.

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You stick your left left to foot out.

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No, you stick your favorite foot out.

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Your favorite foot out, shake it all about and up.

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You should kick up against a wall for the first year,

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and then slowly bring your feet away from the wall

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and try to balance. You have to balance, so I

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and you have to keep your head up. If you

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lower your head you'll fall. And I don't know, it's

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kind of metaphoric sounding.

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I was going to say, it's it seems that there's

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Welcome back Bill Martinez here with Victoria Jackson. We're talking

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about her new book, Not Dead Yet, A Lifetime of handstands,

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art and poetry. Look at that book. It's beautiful. And

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of course that's pink, right, because you are. I mean,

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that's your color.

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Isn't my color?

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I believe it is. Every time I've seen you, you've

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been You've been very pinky. Except today. Except today. Yeah.

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Look at that.

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Here's me and my daughter doing a handstand in front

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of the Lucile Ball statue in La. This is my

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husband's police car. I'm doing a handstand on top of it.

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This is on Saturday Night Live with Dennis Miller doing

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it on the update desk with a flag on my butt.

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Uh.

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This is uh pop Beach Atlantic University, where I went

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back to get my degree when I was forty eight. Yeah,

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so you know it's Uh. I love autobiographies and memoirs,

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and I listened to them on tape every night. So

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I thought, well, maybe someone I'll get a kick out

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of it.

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Well, this is so cool because you know, like you said,

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I mean, we're talking handstands, but we're also talking you know,

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a big part of your life has been writing poetry.

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You've written all your life. Were you were you kind

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of like writing out of the womb?

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Well, I was church out of the womb, And iverythink

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that they sang rhymed years I spent in vanity and

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pride care not my Lord was crucifi, No, not, it

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was for me. He died a cow. So I think

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that I heard poetry a lot as a child in

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church and and and then when I was sixty five,

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me and my husband went on a Greek cruise and

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that's the Parthenon.

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And so so when you're when you're taking bright, I mean,

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you and your husband nice time together. Everything, and you go, hey, stop,

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I gotta go do a handstand. He's going, oh, he

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just it just it comes with the package, right.

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Well, my family's used to it now, funny you should

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say that, and they they're they're so used to it.

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And it's a big ordeal because you got we had

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to stop the cab in at the Parthenon, and the

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cab driver got a ticket because she wasn't allowed to

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stop there. But that was the perfect view of the

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part for the hands. Then you have to make sure

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where your hands are. Sometimes I was on snow, sometimes

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gravel which hurts your hands. Yeah, you have to think

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about oh millions of different problems. The best handstands are

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the ones that are dangerous, like on a high wall

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or the Martini glass bathtub at the Poconos which is

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thirty feet high.

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You know.

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But the poems here's in their stories too. But the

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main thread of the whole book is how God's word

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helped me through my every problem in my life. Because

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I became a Christian when I was six, I asked

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Jesus into my heart and ever since then God has

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helped me and been with me like he promised he would.

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And the Lord's going to go with me through the

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adventure of death soon. And I wanted to encourage people,

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and I sprinkled the Bible in through my story because

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it is a big part of the story.

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Right as you passed from this life into eternity, and

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it's like it's a rebirth, isn't it When you think

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about it. I know that when my dad passed, God

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gave me a lot of comfort. My dad and I

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were really close, and God gave me a lot of

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comfort to see my father being born into eternity and

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Jesus being there to meet him. That just gave me

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so much comfort.

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Huh. Well, I was asking God when I die, could

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it please be no fear, no sadness, and no pain.

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And then one day I thought, oh, that would be

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in my sleep. So now I'm saying, Lord, you're the boss,

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when I die, could it please be in my sleep?

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Exactly? Well, Hey, look at we don't have, the Bible says,

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because we don't ask, right, that's right, So we get

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to ask. So here all that you've been dealing with,

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dealing with the terminal disease, and of course you're still

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Victoria Jackson. You take it with a smile on your face.

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I mean, your faith is what animates you, what gives

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you hope, what gets you up every morning. I mean, uh,

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and I think that. Uh. The last time we ran

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into each other, we were in Tennessee and that's when

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you told me that you were you were dealing with

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with the breast cancer at that point. And so I'm

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I'm glad that we have a chance to meet up

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and talk and you know, celebrate your new book and

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share with our audience. Uh, you know, the fun and

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animation that is the one and only Victoria Jackson.

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Thank you, Bill.

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Yep.

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I'm dealing with pain now, like cancer is different for everyone,

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and I figured I can endure anything if there's no

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pain involved. Well, now I've got pain on my hips

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01:15:49.520 --> 01:15:52.680
and my pelvic bone is covered in cancer. But they're

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01:15:52.720 --> 01:15:56.239
not sure if the pain is coming from the cancer

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01:15:56.319 --> 01:15:59.680
on my pelvic ord just arthright, is from millions of

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hands stands right.

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Yeah.

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So I have pain pillows and they make me tired,

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01:16:06.319 --> 01:16:10.840
and that's my new thing. Last year, they found a

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01:16:11.039 --> 01:16:15.520
tumor in my windpipe and the news all over the

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01:16:15.560 --> 01:16:19.760
world said Victoria Jackson two years to live. She's going

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01:16:19.840 --> 01:16:22.840
to suffocate to death, which is kind of what I

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01:16:22.920 --> 01:16:27.840
said on my Instagram but a little exaggerated, And they

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01:16:28.239 --> 01:16:31.399
radiated that tumor and now I can breathe.

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01:16:31.439 --> 01:16:34.319
Great, well, thank you. Look at that.

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01:16:34.079 --> 01:16:39.640
The medical field is doing great with cancer. They have

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01:16:39.720 --> 01:16:43.359
a lot of ways they're helping people stay alive longer.

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01:16:43.600 --> 01:16:46.840
But the thing is, what's one day or two days,

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01:16:46.880 --> 01:16:48.359
fifteen years goes.

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01:16:48.159 --> 01:16:50.720
Like that exactly exactly.

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01:16:50.479 --> 01:16:51.920
To be ready to meet God.

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01:16:53.199 --> 01:16:55.479
Yeah, and I'm I'm glad you said something about breathing.

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01:16:55.520 --> 01:16:58.960
I think that's one aspect of our humanity. The way

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01:16:58.960 --> 01:17:03.479
God has designed us is that we underestimate the power

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01:17:03.560 --> 01:17:05.760
of deep breathing and what that does, not only in

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01:17:05.800 --> 01:17:08.399
relaxing you, but in cleansing you and that sort of thing.

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01:17:08.680 --> 01:17:11.359
And I have made that part of my daily devotion.

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01:17:11.439 --> 01:17:14.199
As I'm going through my devotion, I'm reminded, you know,

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01:17:14.319 --> 01:17:17.720
to breathe deep, you know, and to go through that exercise.

1451
01:17:18.399 --> 01:17:20.960
It's amazing what that does, you know, just a simple

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01:17:21.000 --> 01:17:23.239
exercise of breathing, you know, right.

1453
01:17:23.840 --> 01:17:29.119
Breathing is big. When I healed from the radiation, I

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01:17:29.159 --> 01:17:34.079
was like, breathe again. I thank God all that. Every

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01:17:34.119 --> 01:17:37.359
day I go Lord a million thank you, there's so

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01:17:37.439 --> 01:17:40.640
many things to be grateful for, and breathing is one

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01:17:40.680 --> 01:17:41.000
of them.

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01:17:41.439 --> 01:17:46.520
Exactly well, as we are, you know, in your life

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01:17:46.680 --> 01:17:51.000
as it is preparing and God has been preparing to

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01:17:51.119 --> 01:17:55.359
receive you, and as your journey continues here and looking

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01:17:55.399 --> 01:17:58.520
back at your legacy, as you said, you came to

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01:17:58.560 --> 01:18:02.039
the Lord at the age of the things that you've

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01:18:02.079 --> 01:18:08.239
experienced with God through your years here on earth. What

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01:18:08.399 --> 01:18:11.319
do you want to tell the readers in our audience

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01:18:11.840 --> 01:18:14.840
that would be lasting for them in terms of you

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01:18:14.880 --> 01:18:16.680
know what God has done for you?

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01:18:18.279 --> 01:18:21.560
Well, first of all, when I was doing my audio book,

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01:18:21.640 --> 01:18:24.079
I noticed that I left out a lot of things

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01:18:24.079 --> 01:18:28.479
I'm ashamed of, and I thought, well, I think I

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01:18:28.520 --> 01:18:32.479
should tell people that I'm a sinner, because why do

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01:18:32.560 --> 01:18:34.600
we need a savior if we don't have any sin?

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01:18:35.359 --> 01:18:37.800
And when we share the Gospel with people the good

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01:18:37.840 --> 01:18:40.640
news that Jesus died for our sins, rose from the

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01:18:40.720 --> 01:18:43.640
dead so we could have eternal life with him, we

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01:18:43.760 --> 01:18:47.520
got to start at the beginning. We have sin, yes,

1476
01:18:48.119 --> 01:18:51.000
Romans three twenty three. All have sin and come short

1477
01:18:51.039 --> 01:18:54.039
of the glory of God Romans six twenty three. For

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01:18:54.119 --> 01:18:56.600
the wages of sin is death. But the gift of

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01:18:56.640 --> 01:19:00.520
God is eternal life through Jesus Christ, our Lord. So

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01:19:01.319 --> 01:19:03.520
when I did my audio book, I threw in a

1481
01:19:03.560 --> 01:19:08.640
couple tidbits of things I'm ashamed of because I think,

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01:19:09.399 --> 01:19:12.800
you know, it's not a tell all. But but i

1483
01:19:12.880 --> 01:19:16.439
know what sin and shame is, and I'm so grateful

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01:19:16.479 --> 01:19:18.479
to be Jesus saved me from it.

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01:19:19.119 --> 01:19:19.319
Right.

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What I would tell people, I would tell people they

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01:19:23.439 --> 01:19:27.079
should read the Book of John and really read the

1488
01:19:27.119 --> 01:19:34.720
Bible every day, and it's bread for your soul and

1489
01:19:34.439 --> 01:19:39.359
and and Jesus and pray and he can help you

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01:19:39.439 --> 01:19:42.239
through anything exactly.

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01:19:42.520 --> 01:19:45.119
You know. Remind me of what Billy Graham said before

1492
01:19:45.159 --> 01:19:49.079
his passing, and he was asked if he had any regrets,

1493
01:19:49.640 --> 01:19:51.640
and the only regret he said that he had was

1494
01:19:51.680 --> 01:19:56.279
that he didn't spend more time in the Word of God. Wow,

1495
01:19:56.520 --> 01:19:59.399
how was that cool? I love that. That blessed me

1496
01:19:59.439 --> 01:20:01.720
so much for him to say that. And of course,

1497
01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:05.399
what did Jesus say about you know when the apostle said,

1498
01:20:05.760 --> 01:20:08.800
you know about bread, you know about eating bread and

1499
01:20:08.920 --> 01:20:11.039
the things of this world, and he goes, that's not

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01:20:11.079 --> 01:20:13.000
what I live on. What I live on is every

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01:20:13.039 --> 01:20:14.520
word that comes from the mouth of God.

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01:20:14.600 --> 01:20:18.800
Right, Yeah, look what my devotion today was April twenty

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01:20:18.840 --> 01:20:24.039
seventh in The Daily Light by Anne Graham Lots. It's

1504
01:20:24.159 --> 01:20:27.439
just Bible verses squished together. It's not her opinion of

1505
01:20:27.479 --> 01:20:31.079
what they say. Man who is born of woman is

1506
01:20:31.119 --> 01:20:34.159
a few days and full of trouble. He comes forth

1507
01:20:34.239 --> 01:20:36.960
like a flower and fades away. He flees like a

1508
01:20:37.079 --> 01:20:40.720
shadow and does not continue. The world is passing away,

1509
01:20:40.800 --> 01:20:43.119
and the lust of it. But he who does the

1510
01:20:43.159 --> 01:20:48.159
will of God abides forever. The will of God is

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01:20:48.199 --> 01:20:52.479
that we believe him. Yes, as an Adam, all die,

1512
01:20:52.600 --> 01:20:56.000
even so in Christ all shall be made alive. Death

1513
01:20:56.079 --> 01:20:58.840
is swallowed up in victory. For if we live, we

1514
01:20:58.960 --> 01:21:01.000
live to the Lord, and if we die, we die

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01:21:01.039 --> 01:21:04.079
to the Lord. Therefore, whether we live or die, we

1516
01:21:04.159 --> 01:21:07.359
are the Lords. To live is Christ, and to die

1517
01:21:07.479 --> 01:21:10.159
is Gain. How can you be sad when you read

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01:21:10.239 --> 01:21:11.159
that in the morning?

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01:21:11.560 --> 01:21:14.119
Exactly? Oh, you bless us. Victoria's always thank you so

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01:21:14.199 --> 01:21:16.920
much for sharing that her book. You've got to get

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01:21:16.920 --> 01:21:18.640
your hands on. You're going to be blessed. You have

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01:21:18.640 --> 01:21:21.279
a lot of fun with it, because Victoria Jackson, she

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01:21:22.079 --> 01:21:25.920
defines fun. You know, you're all about fun. And I

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appreciate your vulnerability. You've always been so honest, and I

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appreciate that about you. Her new book, Not Dead Yet,

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a Lifetime of handstands, art and Poetry. You're gonna love it.

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Victoria Jackson, thank you so much. Appreciate you, love you,

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Thank you Bill for that.

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Murphy is back with us with some Mother's Day ideas.

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Because that's right, it's around the corner. I know some

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of the guys just went off the road right now, Megan,

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Oh my god, I can't believe it's already coming. You know,

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I just got through Valentine's Day. Now Mother's Day, Yes,

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01:25:40.199 --> 01:25:42.359
it is around the corner. And we know flowers and

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01:25:42.439 --> 01:25:45.199
cards are always appreciated, but you know many are looking

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for ways to make the day feel a little more personal,

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01:25:48.399 --> 01:25:51.039
memorable and special. Is why Megan Murphy is here to

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get us out of trouble. Guys. She's the lifestyle expert,

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01:25:53.800 --> 01:25:57.600
and she's curated a fresh lineup of gift ideas designed

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to go beyond the expected and resin eight with every

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01:26:01.079 --> 01:26:03.640
type of mom that she's going to go back and

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01:26:03.720 --> 01:26:06.359
she's going to be bragging and saying, look what I

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01:26:06.479 --> 01:26:09.359
got for Mother's Day. And somebody's going to look at

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their flowers that are starting to wild and go, wow,

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somebody up the game. Huh.

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01:26:16.199 --> 01:26:17.520
Well, thank you for having me.

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01:26:18.239 --> 01:26:20.279
Always great. It's always a pleasure to have you here

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01:26:20.279 --> 01:26:23.680
because you have such great ideas and it gets us

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01:26:23.720 --> 01:26:27.279
out of trouble. So we're taking notes, So what do

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you got for us?

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01:26:28.760 --> 01:26:31.359
So I think that the key is with gift gifting

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01:26:31.479 --> 01:26:34.239
in general is to really think about what mom loves

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01:26:34.279 --> 01:26:36.720
and her interests, and to pay attention and to find

1622
01:26:36.720 --> 01:26:40.479
a gift that really kind of leans into her lifestyle.

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01:26:40.920 --> 01:26:44.239
You know, if mom is into health and wellness, I

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01:26:44.319 --> 01:26:48.359
am A great gift would be the Garmin venue for

1625
01:26:48.840 --> 01:26:52.439
GPS smartwatch. So this is a really good looking watch

1626
01:26:52.479 --> 01:26:55.840
that tracks activity. I mean it tracks everything from sleep

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01:26:55.960 --> 01:27:00.039
to movement to you know, caffeine intake, and then it

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01:27:00.119 --> 01:27:03.479
gives mom really interesting insights that can help her make

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01:27:03.520 --> 01:27:06.840
some tweaks, some health tweaks to really be her best self.

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01:27:07.359 --> 01:27:09.880
It's also got some fun features. It's got a built

1631
01:27:09.920 --> 01:27:13.399
in LED flashlight. I didn't realize how much I would

1632
01:27:13.439 --> 01:27:16.760
love this feature. I am somebody who gets up in

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01:27:16.760 --> 01:27:18.399
the middle of the night to go to the bathroom,

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01:27:18.760 --> 01:27:21.840
and this now lights the way. This morning, I had

1635
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to get up very early before my three kids, before

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01:27:24.239 --> 01:27:27.600
the puppy, before my husband, and I made it my

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01:27:27.640 --> 01:27:30.119
way to the coffee pot using the flashlight on my

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01:27:30.199 --> 01:27:34.640
garment venue for It's also got great features that it's

1639
01:27:34.640 --> 01:27:39.600
got a built in microphone and you can actually talk.

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It's got the speaker in the mic. You can answer

1641
01:27:41.520 --> 01:27:44.159
a call and talk on your wrist. I have found that,

1642
01:27:44.199 --> 01:27:47.880
like when I'm walking the dog or I'm making dinner

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01:27:47.920 --> 01:27:49.760
and somebody's trying to get me and I can quickly

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01:27:49.760 --> 01:27:52.439
answer on my wrist without like fumbling for my phone.

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01:27:53.119 --> 01:27:56.239
And the battery life is awesome. I mean we're talking

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ten plus days. As somebody who wrote a book called

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01:27:59.479 --> 01:28:02.359
Your Fully Age Life, being fully charged is very important

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to me, and this has a really great battery life.

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Ten days that's wow, that's incredible.

1650
01:28:08.720 --> 01:28:11.359
And plus days. I mean I've even heard up to

1651
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twelve days, but I've gotten as many as ten days

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01:28:14.479 --> 01:28:15.279
fully charged.

1653
01:28:15.760 --> 01:28:18.000
Yeah, as long as it doesn't monitor how many times

1654
01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:20.279
you forget to take out the trash or make your bed.

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01:28:21.520 --> 01:28:22.680
This is a great gift to have.

1656
01:28:22.840 --> 01:28:25.720
Right, it's a great gift. I mean, I think more

1657
01:28:25.800 --> 01:28:27.760
now than ever, two people are just sort of trying

1658
01:28:27.760 --> 01:28:30.800
to take charge of their health, and data is important

1659
01:28:30.800 --> 01:28:33.039
in that journey. Right you want to know what your

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01:28:33.079 --> 01:28:35.920
caffeine intake was, or what your sleepwake habits does. It

1661
01:28:35.960 --> 01:28:39.359
helps you monitor women's health issues. I mean, it really

1662
01:28:39.520 --> 01:28:41.920
gives you some great data that you can take charge

1663
01:28:41.920 --> 01:28:42.359
of your.

1664
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Health, right, Yeah, because if you can't measure it, then

1665
01:28:45.399 --> 01:28:47.880
it's just you know, it's just kind of there. It

1666
01:28:47.880 --> 01:28:51.640
really doesn't count, and it's guessing right exactly, and you're

1667
01:28:51.640 --> 01:28:55.479
not seeing the causal effect whereas if you are measuring it. Now,

1668
01:28:55.640 --> 01:28:57.760
this is what I love about these smart watches like this,

1669
01:28:58.239 --> 01:29:01.079
like you said, and it helps hold you accountable. And

1670
01:29:01.119 --> 01:29:04.039
plus it's a great trip in the middle of the

1671
01:29:04.119 --> 01:29:05.279
night when you go to the bathroom.

1672
01:29:05.520 --> 01:29:07.439
You know, it's I have to tell you, it's like

1673
01:29:07.479 --> 01:29:10.479
one of those It's a feature you don't realize how

1674
01:29:10.560 --> 01:29:12.680
much you're gonna love until you figure out all the

1675
01:29:12.760 --> 01:29:15.800
different ways that you use the flashlight. Anybody who's ever

1676
01:29:15.920 --> 01:29:18.600
used the flashlight on their phone when you have it

1677
01:29:18.640 --> 01:29:21.359
on your watch. I mean it's like a game changer.

1678
01:29:21.399 --> 01:29:22.319
I use it for everything.

1679
01:29:23.640 --> 01:29:27.399
Well, let's talk about do it yourself enthusiast moms. What

1680
01:29:27.439 --> 01:29:28.520
do you got up your sleeve there?

1681
01:29:29.399 --> 01:29:32.439
So I'm also a big di wire And I've even

1682
01:29:32.479 --> 01:29:35.399
probably told you about the cricket Joy Extra before because

1683
01:29:36.199 --> 01:29:38.600
it's a smart cutting machine.

1684
01:29:38.720 --> 01:29:39.279
I love this.

1685
01:29:39.359 --> 01:29:42.039
I've had it for ages. And the cricket Joy Extra

1686
01:29:42.119 --> 01:29:44.039
is more compact, so you can use this at the

1687
01:29:44.119 --> 01:29:47.840
kitchen table or if you have a whole crafting room

1688
01:29:47.960 --> 01:29:50.119
I'm absolutely jealous, but you can use it in there

1689
01:29:50.199 --> 01:29:53.119
as well. And there's just so many things you can

1690
01:29:53.159 --> 01:29:55.920
make with it, so you could do I mean, I

1691
01:29:56.000 --> 01:29:58.479
was sitting on the La Crosse sidelines with with my

1692
01:29:58.560 --> 01:30:01.479
mom friends on Sunday and we're like, we need matching

1693
01:30:01.520 --> 01:30:02.800
hats with our kids' numbers.

1694
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Cricket Joy Extra to the rescue.

1695
01:30:05.399 --> 01:30:07.640
You know, forty three on the side of my hat. Lax,

1696
01:30:07.680 --> 01:30:10.880
mom love it. You know, you could make paper flowers,

1697
01:30:10.920 --> 01:30:13.720
you could make I mean, you really can personalize anything.

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one platform that's going to give you thousands of ideas

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step by step guidance. There is something now called guide

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it project Flow, So it's going to hold your hand

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and it's going to help you get as creative as possible,

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very seamlessly. This is available at cricket and at cricut

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dot com.

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You know this, You know, when you look at the machine,

1706
01:30:40.239 --> 01:30:44.920
it seems complex, but it's amazing. My granddaughter has one

1707
01:30:45.079 --> 01:30:47.680
and how she took I mean she's like, was she

1708
01:30:47.800 --> 01:30:51.760
twelve years old? And I mean it's amazing how quick

1709
01:30:51.880 --> 01:30:54.520
they learn and everything. And I'm sitting there, so you know,

1710
01:30:54.600 --> 01:30:58.279
for me, it's like I'm I'm almost afraid, you know, yeah,

1711
01:30:58.399 --> 01:31:01.079
to mess something up, but she's she's amazing with it.

1712
01:31:01.399 --> 01:31:03.439
And I will say, no, it's a smart cutting machine.

1713
01:31:03.479 --> 01:31:05.720
So we do advise if it's going to be a

1714
01:31:05.800 --> 01:31:08.479
child using or a younger person like you definitely want

1715
01:31:08.479 --> 01:31:12.640
that grown up supervision because it is a cutting tool.

1716
01:31:12.760 --> 01:31:16.680
But you know, kids creativity is off the charts. I

1717
01:31:16.720 --> 01:31:19.800
mean my kids are often teaching me quite a bit,

1718
01:31:19.920 --> 01:31:21.640
especially when it comes to technology.

1719
01:31:22.119 --> 01:31:25.159
Yeah, I love it. This is great. Megan is an

1720
01:31:25.199 --> 01:31:29.159
author and editor, lifestyle and health expert, a home hack master,

1721
01:31:29.680 --> 01:31:31.920
and host of the award winning TV show My Perfect

1722
01:31:32.039 --> 01:31:37.840
Day on Very Local, which earned her a Silver Telling Award. Congratulations,

1723
01:31:38.000 --> 01:31:38.560
and I just.

1724
01:31:38.520 --> 01:31:40.920
Want an Emmy in October as well, so thank.

1725
01:31:40.720 --> 01:31:43.640
You and the awards just keep on coming. That's great. Well,

1726
01:31:43.680 --> 01:31:47.039
Megan Murphy, what other go to gifts do you have

1727
01:31:47.520 --> 01:31:49.960
that are guaranteed to be a hit this Mom's Day?

1728
01:31:50.199 --> 01:31:53.439
So this is something that's really really trending is the

1729
01:31:53.760 --> 01:31:58.640
bird fee feeder Metal to It is a really state

1730
01:31:58.680 --> 01:32:01.239
of the art bird feeder that is changing the way

1731
01:32:01.279 --> 01:32:04.960
we do bird watching. It has a really stunning four

1732
01:32:05.079 --> 01:32:08.720
K camera and it is chew proof. It's got this

1733
01:32:08.880 --> 01:32:11.920
metal construction so the squirrels aren't going to get it,

1734
01:32:12.319 --> 01:32:14.399
and it's in this moss green color so it kind

1735
01:32:14.399 --> 01:32:17.880
of blends into the yard it is. I got this

1736
01:32:17.920 --> 01:32:21.680
from my eighty year old mother in law for her birthday,

1737
01:32:21.720 --> 01:32:23.760
and I was surprised how easy it was for her

1738
01:32:23.840 --> 01:32:27.079
to set up. So it's got Bluetooth pairing and it

1739
01:32:27.279 --> 01:32:31.479
has dual band Wi Fi that you can really set

1740
01:32:31.560 --> 01:32:33.880
up using your smartphone or your tablet to connect to

1741
01:32:33.960 --> 01:32:36.720
your home. There's an app that allows you to share

1742
01:32:36.840 --> 01:32:40.439
images with your family and friends. There's a live camera

1743
01:32:40.520 --> 01:32:43.680
feed so that you could see the birds in action

1744
01:32:44.000 --> 01:32:48.640
in real time. And then there's also bird FEEAI, so

1745
01:32:48.840 --> 01:32:52.479
it can identify up to six thousand species of birds

1746
01:32:52.880 --> 01:32:56.399
right down to the gender using bird fee AI. So

1747
01:32:56.439 --> 01:32:59.840
that is it from bird feet and it's spelled birdfy.

1748
01:33:01.439 --> 01:33:04.239
I love that, you know. And I don't know what

1749
01:33:04.279 --> 01:33:07.880
it is about feeding birds and watching birds. I do

1750
01:33:07.920 --> 01:33:10.359
it every morning. It's kind of therapy. And you know,

1751
01:33:10.399 --> 01:33:12.199
my wife goes, oh, did you feed the birds this morning?

1752
01:33:12.439 --> 01:33:15.600
And and I need something like this. I've been trying

1753
01:33:15.640 --> 01:33:18.960
to find something that would work other than just making

1754
01:33:19.039 --> 01:33:21.439
you know, putting a pile of bird seed out on

1755
01:33:21.479 --> 01:33:23.880
the edge of the grass out there. You know. But

1756
01:33:24.039 --> 01:33:26.479
we get everybody, you know, we get you know, the

1757
01:33:26.520 --> 01:33:29.199
little bunnies running around, We get the doves and all this,

1758
01:33:29.359 --> 01:33:32.119
and squirrels and you know, tigers and bears and all

1759
01:33:32.119 --> 01:33:33.359
that good stuff. It's just good fun.

1760
01:33:33.680 --> 01:33:37.880
Well this so this and the it's metal, so like

1761
01:33:38.159 --> 01:33:40.760
the squirrels aren't going to eat it, which I think

1762
01:33:40.880 --> 01:33:44.159
is is really really a great feature.

1763
01:33:45.039 --> 01:33:45.760
You will love this.

1764
01:33:45.880 --> 01:33:48.960
I mean it's four K so the images are really

1765
01:33:49.000 --> 01:33:52.520
really stunning. If you love birds, this is unbeatable.

1766
01:33:53.039 --> 01:33:55.760
Yeah, yeah, it's amazing. I mean I've always liked to

1767
01:33:55.800 --> 01:33:59.079
watch birds in a sense, not that I've been you know,

1768
01:33:59.399 --> 01:34:02.359
I'm not like one walking around the neighborhood with binoculars

1769
01:34:02.359 --> 01:34:06.560
and you know, but I just like to observe, observe birds,

1770
01:34:06.560 --> 01:34:09.199
and I find myself I just you know, doing this.

1771
01:34:09.279 --> 01:34:10.640
And I remember the first time I went to the

1772
01:34:10.640 --> 01:34:12.600
store and I got a bag of bird feed and

1773
01:34:12.680 --> 01:34:15.520
I tried to find something that I thought would be fitting,

1774
01:34:15.560 --> 01:34:17.359
you know, to where I could put the food in.

1775
01:34:17.399 --> 01:34:20.880
And I just have resorted, you know, for this past year.

1776
01:34:20.920 --> 01:34:23.039
I said, Okay, I'm just gonna grab a big cup

1777
01:34:23.039 --> 01:34:24.720
of bird feed and I'll just put it out there.

1778
01:34:24.760 --> 01:34:27.880
But I like this, This is great because this is

1779
01:34:27.880 --> 01:34:30.880
good therapy because it does it's quite calming when you

1780
01:34:30.920 --> 01:34:33.840
go and you're watching birds and the animals.

1781
01:34:33.840 --> 01:34:38.520
They're so beautiful, they're so fascinating. I mean, you will

1782
01:34:38.600 --> 01:34:42.800
really be mesmerized by the video images. I mean, birds

1783
01:34:43.039 --> 01:34:45.239
like And for me, it's like anytime a cardinal lands

1784
01:34:45.239 --> 01:34:47.359
on the feeder, you know, I feel like my dad

1785
01:34:47.439 --> 01:34:49.600
is watching, you know, like if you have a connection

1786
01:34:49.680 --> 01:34:53.399
to birds in any way, it's a really special product.

1787
01:34:53.680 --> 01:34:55.760
So it's okay if I buy something for mom that

1788
01:34:56.119 --> 01:34:57.680
I could enjoy too, right.

1789
01:34:57.920 --> 01:35:00.000
I mean, maybe you just get maybe just I want to.

1790
01:35:02.399 --> 01:35:06.239
Exactly. Well, we've got to wrap things up as always, Megan.

1791
01:35:06.319 --> 01:35:08.640
We just are so grateful for you coming on with

1792
01:35:08.680 --> 01:35:12.079
these great ideas and bailing us out. And uh, I

1793
01:35:12.119 --> 01:35:13.760
know what I'm gonna do for a bird feeder. This

1794
01:35:13.840 --> 01:35:15.239
is gonna this is gonna be good us.

1795
01:35:15.279 --> 01:35:15.960
It's gonna be great.

1796
01:35:16.399 --> 01:35:19.600
Soft I'm sorry, go ahead.

1797
01:35:19.479 --> 01:35:21.000
Oh, I was going to give you the websites in

1798
01:35:21.000 --> 01:35:23.319
case you want to shop. It's Garment dot com, It's

1799
01:35:23.319 --> 01:35:26.000
Cricket CRI c U T dot com, and then bird

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01:35:26.039 --> 01:35:28.680
feed b I R D f Y dot com.

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The lifestyle Expert, the one and only and the award

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winning Megan Murphy. Thank you, Megan, take care, thanks.

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will ultimately lead, just lock where Vladimir Linen's revolution ultimately led.

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Yeah, we'll break that down a little bit more. And

1899
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you know how that specifically relates. I mean, because you know,

1900
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it's obviously a number of decades since Lenin's been on

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the scene, and we talk about it, but to you know,

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attach Earth Day with lenon break it down and help

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us understand that direct connection.

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Well.

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Ultimately, the communist revolution, the Bolshevik Revolution of nineteen seventeen

1906
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was about gaining control over, in this case, the people

1907
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who lived in Tsarist Russia. It was done, of course,

1908
01:41:21.960 --> 01:41:26.520
in the name of liberating the proletariat. It was done

1909
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in the name of creating a red utopia on earth.

1910
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But it was really about putting a small slither of

1911
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the population, one driven by affealty to an ideology which,

1912
01:41:43.600 --> 01:41:47.159
by the way, got it completely wrong. According to Marx,

1913
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the revolution would break out in the wealthiest countries of

1914
01:41:52.399 --> 01:41:55.359
the world, or where the bush was. He thought it

1915
01:41:55.439 --> 01:41:58.600
was well in SCons but was actually more vulnerable than

1916
01:41:59.359 --> 01:42:02.800
any place else. Well, that didn't happen. It broke out

1917
01:42:02.840 --> 01:42:08.239
in Russia, which was extremely backward, and it broke out

1918
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actually solely because the Czar, along with numerous other people

1919
01:42:14.279 --> 01:42:18.720
in power power powerful people in Europe, had been dumb

1920
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enough to get Russia into what we now know was

1921
01:42:22.520 --> 01:42:29.079
World War One. But ultimately, communism was about gaining control

1922
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of people microbe managing their lives and by the way,

1923
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smothering any descent that arose from those who were being

1924
01:42:38.560 --> 01:42:42.920
dominated by their rulers. Well, therein lives. Of course, the

1925
01:42:43.000 --> 01:42:46.840
affinity of the green movement in a way, they tipped

1926
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their hand, because what is environmentalism all about is about

1927
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gaining control of people and micromanaging their lives.

1928
01:42:58.920 --> 01:43:03.399
Right, they used, they used the green agenda, which you

1929
01:43:03.399 --> 01:43:06.720
know again which is still alive, not maybe not as well,

1930
01:43:06.760 --> 01:43:10.720
but it's still alive. It's not you know, I guess

1931
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we just have not experienced enough of the lives and

1932
01:43:15.199 --> 01:43:18.039
the bad news of the green agenda to kind of

1933
01:43:18.159 --> 01:43:20.399
get rid of it once and for all. Right, because

1934
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they find a way to, you know, like cockroaches, they'll

1935
01:43:24.279 --> 01:43:27.520
they'll go and hide for a while and reconstitute, but

1936
01:43:27.560 --> 01:43:30.439
they'll come back, you know, they'll.

1937
01:43:30.159 --> 01:43:33.279
Come back, and they'll particularly come back to political venues

1938
01:43:33.439 --> 01:43:38.479
which are hospitable, still hospitable to their agenda. So in

1939
01:43:38.520 --> 01:43:42.680
the United States you have seen them largely, not entirely,

1940
01:43:42.720 --> 01:43:49.279
but largely disappear from red states and red jurisdictions. But

1941
01:43:49.439 --> 01:43:57.239
they are alive and well in blue states and jurisdictions California, Illinois,

1942
01:43:57.920 --> 01:43:59.640
New York, Massachusetts.

1943
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Name because they speak their love language, bonner, their love

1944
01:44:04.119 --> 01:44:05.239
language of controlling.

1945
01:44:05.359 --> 01:44:10.800
Right, that's right, even though those green policies have failed

1946
01:44:11.000 --> 01:44:15.960
spectactary right in say California in New York, just to

1947
01:44:16.000 --> 01:44:21.159
cite two examples, where the price of electricity and the

1948
01:44:21.199 --> 01:44:28.000
price of gasoline are of the highest in the country.

1949
01:44:28.439 --> 01:44:33.640
People's disposable incomes have been quashed as a result of this,

1950
01:44:34.279 --> 01:44:37.279
and that is one of the many reasons why both

1951
01:44:37.319 --> 01:44:43.199
California and New York are suffering a net outflow of people,

1952
01:44:43.359 --> 01:44:47.119
because the people have had enough, and people of middle

1953
01:44:47.159 --> 01:44:50.439
income and points down simply can't afford to live in

1954
01:44:50.479 --> 01:44:54.000
those states and are seeking their fortunes elsewhere.

1955
01:44:54.760 --> 01:44:58.039
Yeah, well they're seeking I mean, they just want to survive.

1956
01:44:58.479 --> 01:45:00.520
I mean, after all that they've gone through, Get me

1957
01:45:00.600 --> 01:45:03.760
out of the state so I can survive, and you know,

1958
01:45:04.319 --> 01:45:09.560
maybe revisit the dream of fortunes in an area, in

1959
01:45:09.600 --> 01:45:12.399
a state where I have a free chance to win,

1960
01:45:12.479 --> 01:45:13.520
a fair chance to win.

1961
01:45:14.680 --> 01:45:18.920
Yeah, that's right, And this entails no small sacrifice. The

1962
01:45:18.960 --> 01:45:23.479
people leaving California a leaving a state that's debosibly very beautiful,

1963
01:45:23.840 --> 01:45:29.239
spectacular natural beauty, the Pacific Ocean, the Sierra Nevada Mountains,

1964
01:45:29.640 --> 01:45:33.319
the wonderful climate that the place has. My God, no

1965
01:45:33.439 --> 01:45:38.159
wonder the song said, California, here I come right, right exactly. Oh,

1966
01:45:38.199 --> 01:45:40.800
they're not seeing that anymore.

1967
01:45:40.920 --> 01:45:43.840
Yeah, the California dreaming has become a California nightmare.

1968
01:45:43.960 --> 01:45:48.600
You know, that's right. The descendants of the Oaks who

1969
01:45:48.720 --> 01:45:52.680
fled Oklahoma back in the nineteen thirties are now heading

1970
01:45:52.760 --> 01:45:58.840
back to Oklahoma, which is far more hospitable to building

1971
01:45:59.159 --> 01:46:02.960
a productive lay life in California. Then today's California.

1972
01:46:02.319 --> 01:46:06.319
Will ever be right leaving behind their electrical vehicles and

1973
01:46:06.840 --> 01:46:10.520
trying to see if they can find their covered wagon, right,

1974
01:46:10.760 --> 01:46:13.239
feel a little bit more efficient? Well, you know, so

1975
01:46:13.880 --> 01:46:17.680
here it is celebrated Earth Day, and we're recording this

1976
01:46:17.840 --> 01:46:24.920
on Earth Day, so you know, so what right I

1977
01:46:24.920 --> 01:46:26.720
mean is this is what has come down to, is

1978
01:46:26.720 --> 01:46:28.319
that people are just saying Earth Day.

1979
01:46:28.399 --> 01:46:35.239
So what that's right? Actually, those of us who have

1980
01:46:35.399 --> 01:46:39.000
expressed skepticism, to put it mildly, about all of this agenda,

1981
01:46:39.319 --> 01:46:43.520
actually do have a little something to celebrate today because

1982
01:46:43.600 --> 01:46:47.800
the green agenda is not nearly as strong as it

1983
01:46:47.960 --> 01:46:53.000
once was because it's being discredited. It's being discredited in

1984
01:46:53.239 --> 01:46:57.000
the eyes of more and more people, not just in

1985
01:46:57.039 --> 01:47:01.600
the United States but also in your You're ever the laggard,

1986
01:47:01.680 --> 01:47:05.000
of course, but even they are starting to wake up

1987
01:47:05.039 --> 01:47:09.520
now because look, a kill a lot of electricity in

1988
01:47:09.680 --> 01:47:14.439
Germany cost three times as much per hour as it

1989
01:47:14.600 --> 01:47:19.279
does in the United States. Go to Germany, drive around.

1990
01:47:19.439 --> 01:47:23.760
What will you see wind turbines everywhere. You'll see the

1991
01:47:23.800 --> 01:47:27.199
same thing. In Britain, You'll see the same thing in Ireland.

1992
01:47:27.640 --> 01:47:31.119
What has that gotten them? That it has gotten them

1993
01:47:31.560 --> 01:47:36.880
a shrinkage of disposable incomes for ordinary people. They're the

1994
01:47:36.880 --> 01:47:41.399
ones who are now facing de industrialization, which is where

1995
01:47:41.600 --> 01:47:43.279
decarbonization leads.

1996
01:47:44.199 --> 01:47:48.479
Yes, well, you know, like you say, it's being discredited

1997
01:47:49.720 --> 01:47:52.800
in a sense bonner on its own merit or lack thereof,

1998
01:47:53.319 --> 01:47:56.319
because you know the proofs in the pudding right as

1999
01:47:56.319 --> 01:47:57.000
you say.

2000
01:47:58.760 --> 01:48:03.079
Yeah, that's right. You know, we've we've we've had experience

2001
01:48:03.439 --> 01:48:08.520
experiences with the experiment. We know how this movie ends,

2002
01:48:08.840 --> 01:48:12.439
and this movie does not have a happy ending, and

2003
01:48:13.680 --> 01:48:18.399
that we still have jurisdictions in the United States that

2004
01:48:18.760 --> 01:48:23.159
are still embracing the green agenda to the detriment of

2005
01:48:23.279 --> 01:48:28.479
their own people. Exactly show is the extent to which

2006
01:48:28.520 --> 01:48:31.560
people can be completely delusional, and why are they delusional?

2007
01:48:31.760 --> 01:48:37.399
Because they enjoy wielding the power that imposing all sorts

2008
01:48:37.439 --> 01:48:40.479
of restrictions on the rest of US entails.

2009
01:48:40.760 --> 01:48:43.640
Yeah, and the thing is bonder to your point. I mean,

2010
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if we could add up all the trillions of dollars

2011
01:48:47.119 --> 01:48:51.479
that have been invested in this, uh you know, this

2012
01:48:51.640 --> 01:48:56.439
green scam, I think people would be shocked. I mean

2013
01:48:56.600 --> 01:49:01.560
trillions of dollars that basically have been wasted, all for

2014
01:49:01.680 --> 01:49:05.439
the all for the sake of their own control and

2015
01:49:05.520 --> 01:49:07.399
their own egos.

2016
01:49:08.199 --> 01:49:12.520
Actually, we have created a brand spanking new rust belt

2017
01:49:13.479 --> 01:49:17.640
in parts of the country. That rust belt now consists

2018
01:49:17.720 --> 01:49:21.880
of factories that were opened up with government subsidies from

2019
01:49:21.880 --> 01:49:27.720
the Obama and Biden administrations to create places where we

2020
01:49:27.760 --> 01:49:33.199
could build batteries to power evs and for spare parts

2021
01:49:33.359 --> 01:49:36.399
of evs. Turns out there's no real market for those

2022
01:49:36.439 --> 01:49:39.239
cars in the United States worthy of the name, So

2023
01:49:39.359 --> 01:49:42.479
what if they had to do, They have had to

2024
01:49:42.520 --> 01:49:45.880
shutter them. So these facilities that were opened up with

2025
01:49:45.960 --> 01:49:51.880
the usual ribbon cutting and people shoveling dirt, promising a

2026
01:49:52.039 --> 01:49:56.960
golden future for American workers, they're lying empty now. And

2027
01:49:57.039 --> 01:50:01.119
the taxpayers money that were shoveled into the these projects

2028
01:50:01.399 --> 01:50:04.279
is long gone and isn't coming back. Every cent of

2029
01:50:04.359 --> 01:50:05.479
it wasted.

2030
01:50:05.520 --> 01:50:08.720
Unbelievable, like Barack Obama said, I guess they weren't those

2031
01:50:09.479 --> 01:50:12.560
as shovel ready jobs as we expected, right, and then

2032
01:50:12.600 --> 01:50:17.399
he laughed about it. As you know, the taxpayer is going, yeah,

2033
01:50:17.399 --> 01:50:20.439
but we paid for that. That's not funny. We got

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to leave it there. Doctor Bonner Cohen, the senior policy

2035
01:50:22.920 --> 01:50:26.000
analyst with a Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow. Bonners, always

2036
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appreciate the time.

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Take care of you all right, I appreciate being on

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the show.

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