Dec. 19, 2025

The Bill Martinez Show 12 19 25

The Bill Martinez Show 12 19 25
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The Bill Martinez Show 12 19 25
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, Okay, let's do it.

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Ill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Well, good morning, six minutes half top the R right now,

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Bill Martinez here with Landmark Legals, Mike O'Neil. Hey, Mike,

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good morning, Merry Christmas.

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How are you good? Good morning, Bill, Good to be

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with you.

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Well, A lot of whacking thats going on right now

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from post to coast around the world, whether we're talking

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La Australia, you know, the East Coast and Rhode Island,

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just just amazing. It's like where do you start. I mean,

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it's I mean, this is the season of joy and

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peace and love, you would think, but it's like madness

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is breaking out.

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I mean, it's it's it was a rough weekend. I

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mean when you you you tune into the New Sunday

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Evening and it's just this barrage of terrible things that

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have happened.

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I mean, what happened in Australia is just.

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Awful, and I mean you can't help but think in Australia,

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this is a country that largely condemned Israel, embraced Gaza

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at least from a geopolitical global perspective. From my perspective,

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it seemed like the government of Australia, the nation, the government,

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the official position Australia was adopted, was largely sympathetic to

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Gaza in their war against Israel.

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Rather, you know, contrast that with the.

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United States, and as far as I can tell from

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my perspective as an American, is largely hospitable to Muslims.

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And yet you get this radical Islamicist who decides he

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wants to start shooting up a Jewish event on BONDI

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beach utterly abhorrent. And I mean, what other interesting nugget

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about Australia is I think they have the largest, you know,

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one of the most strict.

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Gun control rights.

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I was going to say, exactly provisions in the Western world.

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And you see how how what that got them?

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And also one one, well these guys, these guys had

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six guns.

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Yeah exactly.

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So I mean, what does that tell you?

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It tells you, It tells you exactly. What we always

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say about this.

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Is that the only thing that gun laws do is

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prevent good people from obtaining fire arms. I mean, if

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you're if you're gonna, if you're committed to committing a

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mass atrocity. You're gonna do whatever you can to find

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firearms to accomplish that, or whatever you have, bombs or whatever,

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you know, homemade bombs or whatever you're gonna do if

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you're and the only thing that happens is when you

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have these strict gun laws is that people who who

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believe in self defense and self carry and want to

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protect their homes or want to go hunting or sporting

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are denied their constitutional right. And thank goodness, in the

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United States, we have the Second Amendment which protects this

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and acts as a barrier to that, so people can

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have firearms. I mean, think about this, you don't you

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don't get away.

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If somebody tried to tried to do that in public in.

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Texas for example, or or or wherever wherever you have

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robust protections of the Second Amendment, they wouldn't get two

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seconds away before that comes.

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These guys were gunned down and praise it.

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Well, a lot of these guys might upfront they would

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just say, hey, we're not going to go there because

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right exactly, I mean, yeah, you have the determined I mean,

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you hear the stories time and time again. We talked

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to doctor John Lott from the Crime Prevention Research Center.

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All the time he says, hey, you know, the criminals

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aren't stupid, you know, they they check all this stuff

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out to make sure that, you know, they're not necessarily

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going to go die dying in a in a halo

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of bullets unless they've got some sort of suicide wish,

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and there's some that do that. But in these particular cases,

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what seems to be going on is they pick their

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targets and here they are. I mean, you know, Bonde

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Beach and I mean it's like a kill zone there

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with two long rifles and all the cartridges that were

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spent go ahead.

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Yeah, absolutely, important, horrifying, terrible. It just I think it

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goes to show that this is a radical ideology that's

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committed to the destruction of an entire race of people

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and ethnicity.

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I mean that radical Islam wants.

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To and this is this is endemic in the Middle East,

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and we see this with Gaza and the October attacks

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on Israel, that this is this is a philosophy that

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wants to wipe out Jewish ethnicity, Jewish people, and by

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by extension, also much of the Western world.

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I mean, I was going to say, Western civilization in

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the crosshairs and all this because that's what they're coming at,

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because look at and they've used anti Semitism as a

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wedge issue. This has been going on for decades, but

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it really has increased with intensity. And of course we

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saw all the signs Michael, whether you know, you're looking

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at college campuses from the River to the sea, you know, Australia,

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you know, like you say, you know siding with Gaza. Really,

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I mean, come on, these are eighty twenty issues, So

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what's what is going on here? And meanwhile in Rhode

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Island you get the gunman. They're telling the people, hey,

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don't say what he said, right, And of course now

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we find out Allah akbar, you know, so it's like, okay,

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all right, so how many more signs and indicators do

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we need to see here? You know, so we're going

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to be really on guard. But you know, we go

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back to the bush years. Remember after nine to eleven,

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we had to be overly sympathetic and compassionate, you know,

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we didn't want to judge too quickly. And now look

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what's happening.

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Absolutely, and I think that you could always see this

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whenever the identity individual is.

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I was talking about this in another forum.

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Whenever the identity individual doesn't come out, I mean, give

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me a break. We're talking about this is Brown University.

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The surveillance systems in place there are second to none,

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and reports of facial recognition. He went into a classroom

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where the individual went into a classroom with dozens of

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dozens of students, committed a murder dozens of witnesses. There's

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clearly an identify there's clearly identifiers of this person. And

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for you know, when the days tick, when the hours

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and days tick by, without releasing the identity of the

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individual who committed such a horrendous atrocity, you know what

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boxes are being checked here?

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Right?

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If this was a conservative white kid, it would have

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been out thirty seconds after the incident happened.

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There were as long as he wasn't aligned with their agenda.

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This is the thing that's quite obvious because listen to

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the leadership of the university. I mean, are they what

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what is that telling you? I mean, and we were

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told initially there was like eight hundred cameras. Now we

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find out there's over twelve hundred cameras.

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Of course, you know, of course it's always worse than

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you think it is.

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And then if you have the the the press conference

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is at least the initial one of the big ones

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where I was watching, just became a train wreck. I

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mean just no information, delays, obfuscation, It's just terrifying. And

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what you have to do is in crisis communications efforts,

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you want to get ahead of this. You want to

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get as much out there as possible as early as

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you can, obviously within the parameters of conducting an active

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criminal investigation. But transparency is the order of is the

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watchword of the day for the most part, to ensure

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that the American people, I mean that that were that

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were protected. And of course this individual targeted this young lady.

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Who was who was assassinated.

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I think we can again I believe calling this is

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an assassination, like Charlie Kirk, if you're if you're if

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somebody commits a murder based on political ideology for you

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being now spoken leader of your particular ideology, then that's

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that's a political assassination. So we see another political assassination

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of somebody, a conservative leader on campus, God bless her.

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I mean, imagine being a conservative or an outspoken Republican

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on the campus of Brown University. Imagine the timidity that

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that takes and the exactly so.

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God bless her.

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And I'm of course what we're saying, this is not

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surprising to anybody who keeps their eyes open and pays

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anything in this world.

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Yeah, and when you read about her, boy, she was

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a rather you know, she was a substantive individual, somebody

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that you want to live a full life to contribute

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to our society. The other thing to consider here, Michael,

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like you said, in crisis management, part of the reason

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you get out in front and get the information out

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there so that it encourages the people to speak out.

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And what they're doing is just the opposite, by their

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resistance to put the whole truth and nothing but out there.

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It's telling witnesses, hey, you better be careful here, right. Yeah,

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it's just a form of examination, is it not?

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Certainly?

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And it's it's it's predictive, and it's if you you

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need to get with the narrative and speak the language

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that we speak, and if you don't speak this language,

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there's gonna be consequences for it.

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It's right, it's thought.

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Mind, speech control, and it's all too prevalent on our universities.

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Oftentimes the higher, the more prestigious the university, the higher.

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The speech code.

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Thought police are are there, and this is this is

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this is a terrible soup of things that terrible tragedy

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has occurred, and then you see everything that that that

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manifests from it. It's just awful and I feel terrible

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for the students. I do feel student terrible for the

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student body a Brown I mean, this is a terrible

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thing to happen, imagine for everybody, but it'd be it

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would be refreshing to actually see bold and aggressive and

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strong leadership from the heads of these places, which.

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Well, there's there's lots of sympathy to go around and round.

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Like you said, you know by extension, not only Brown

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University the population there, but but you know our country

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at large, because this is an impingement upon our First

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Amendment right and there's a reason that we need to

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have freedom of speech and freedom of the medium, freedom

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of press. We've got to go to quick break. We've

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got more from Mike on the other side.

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Nineteen minutes right now after the top of the our

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Bill Martinez here with the Landmark Legals, Mike O'Neill. Mike,

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I guess just to put a bow on everything here.

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I mean, you know, people need to be discerning as

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to what's being reported, how it's being reported, and how

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we're being conditioned to look at things, because, as you said,

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something very clearly, and people need to understand this is

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the attack on Western civilization is here. It's amongst us.

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It's no longer existential, it is living amongst us. Especially

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further exacerbated by the twenty million or so illegal immigrants

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who we don't even know who came into this country.

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Yeah, and we' about this before.

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This is this the efforts that the Trump administration is

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taking to and receiving enormous amounts of media attention, to

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stop the flow of fentanyl into our country. To designate

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fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction. By the way,

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that just happened earlier. I think it was earlier this

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week or lightly last week last week, So which is

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which is a great step forward, the recognition that this

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is there is a there are state actors behind this.

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This isn't just criminal enterprises that are flooding our country

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with this poison, with this weapon of mass destruction that

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has killed hundreds of thousands of Americans or millions of

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I think we could go to millions of Americans over

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the past twenty years if you want to, just.

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Extraction easily, easily and the thing is my interrupted here

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just a second, and to bring you know, Rob Reiner's

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story into play here, I mean, look at but for

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the war on drugs or no war on drugs, you

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have situations like what happened in Los Angeles and going Okay,

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how many more of these do we have to have?

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And you know, our children are being addicted and we think, oh,

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this is just a rite of patent. I don't even

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know what they're doing here. But you know, it takes

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Donald Trump to finally say, Okay, we're gonna have a

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real war on drugs, not just a banner up there

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and give it some lip service because you know, too

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many people are making too much money that we don't

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know about. But meanwhile, our kids are are drug addled,

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going crazy. We can't control them, there's not enough therapy.

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And now here they are sadly killing their parents.

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I mean, what an awful tragic event which happened out

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there too.

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Can we not connect the dots here? Mike, am I

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missing something here? Yeah?

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Certainly.

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And this is what I say here is when you

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have and this is kind of what's been illuminated over

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the past several months now with the Trump administration decided

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they're going to allocate national federal military assets to address

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this problem. And that's the proper response because you have,

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as I said before, this isn't something where you just

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have disparate cartels or criminal organizations operating independently from one another.

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You have countries, nation states that are behind this, Venezuela

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and China. Let's not let's not lose factors of the

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fact that a lot of the base ingredients and a

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lot of the base If you look at the cycle

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of how fentanol and these poisons get into America, it's

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not simply just a drug cartel in Mexico smuggling cocaine

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up from Colombia or whatever. You It is China manufacturing

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base ingredients, sending it to Venezuela, sending it up through

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the cartels for distribution in the United States.

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It is it is.

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You have to nation state state actors behind this, and

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as such, you need to have military state actions combating it.

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Law enforcement, amen, they do as much as they can

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do with what they have, but you have to escalate

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this and elevate this, and you have to recognize and finally,

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I've been saying this for years and years and years,

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you have to recognize that that this is a clear

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and present danger to the American people. How many Americans

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need to die annually? Besides, before we start to actually

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utilize the arsenal of democracy, that we.

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Have to see exactly God I want to see this.

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This is and shell water and so let's everybody, let's

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hate Donald Trump for wanting to do something about it,

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the first president who is really utilized, like you said,

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the full force of our country's military and our might

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to say enough, You're not going to come in and

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kill our kids.

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Absolutely, I mean I don't understand. If you have fentonyl.

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Flooding across the southern border, you militize, you militarize the border.

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That is no different in my mind than al Qaeda

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or Ice is smuggling a dirty bomb across.

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The Rio exactly if they were trying.

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If al Qaeda was trying to smuggle dirty bombs, you

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would have special forces, you would have drones, you would

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have everything in the world militarized on that southern border

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to stop it. I don't just God bless it. Those

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are clear threats. But those How many people have we

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lost from terrorism in the past twenty five years? VISA

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caught that number to how many people we've lost from

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fentanyl and opioid overdoses.

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Eighty thousand a year about the last ten years. I

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mean one year alone is more than what we lost

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in Vietnam at what eight nine years of Vietnam.

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Yeah, that may be clear. I'm not minimizing the tragedy

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of people who died, of individuals who died on nine

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to eleven, and individuals who died in the wars. Those

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are it's awful. I'm simply saying that it's that that

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represents a threat to the United States. Similarly, fentanyl opioids

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flooding into our country, distributed by cartels. And again, we

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know this bill. We know that the cartels are national actors.

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There's state actors. We saw that this.

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General who's detained, who's imprisoned in somewhere Venezuelan general who's

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imprisoned in a federal president in the United States wrote.

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A letter and he laid it all out.

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He said that there's that there are state actors that

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are behind trend de Arragua and the cartels. These aren't

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guys just operating independently of themselves. So so far so

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that demands again I keep repeating myself, but it's important

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to drive home this point. It demands federal military response,

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aggressive federal military response. That's what we're thinking.

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And look what they're targeting, Michael, They're they're targeting the

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kids and especially in these affluent communities, because these kids

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have a lot of discretionary income. I mean, Michael, you

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and I when we were growing up, we were lucky

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to have ten bucks in our pocket. You know, these

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kids walk around, you know, one hundred, couple of hundred

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bucks whatever, an ATM card that their parent gives them.

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I mean, you know, Rob Reiner's son had even though

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he was homeless, you know, because of his dad's wealth

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in that had a lot of money and accessibility. He

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probably think if he looks back and thinks about the

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amount of money that this kid spent and he's only

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thirty two years old. I mean, so these these kids

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are target you know, they're perfect targets for the cartels,

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and they're able to get into them, get them addicted.

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And here we are wreaking having I mean, it's just

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like you know in Vietnam, and you didn't have to

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kill anybody, but you just needed to wound. If you

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could wound a soldier, that was great because then it

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took two or three of the buddies, you know, it

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took them out of action and neutralized their weaponry. So

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that that's what the enemy has learned. And here we are.

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I mean, we're being vulnerable to these uh you know,

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these old plans. The other thing I will say, in

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light of these dangers that are going on, I like

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what Congress is doing and being very proactive about social media,

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that they're seeing how powerful social media is and what

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it's doing and affecting these young girls, you know, suicide

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rates and everything else. So it seems like they're learning

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something from what we have realized in the war against drugs,

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I hope.

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So I think what the Rhiner situation demonstrates is that

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no matter how and you were just intimate, you were

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just suggesting that as well, no matter how privileged you are,

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no matter what, no matter who your parents are, nobody

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is beyond the reach of these this poison exactly, and

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all it takes is the wrong And from what I understand,

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I don't have I don't I've never had an opioid,

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but from what I understand, it doesn't take much to

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get hooked on fentanyl.

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I mean a dose or two and then you're you're hooked.

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With well, it's everything. I mean, you got the cornucopia

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of drug addiction. You know, whether it's heroin, you know,

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I know, every time anybody brings up cannabis, they kind of, oh,

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it's not that bad, you know, whatever it is, Hey,

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I don't care, you know, just like alcohol. And and

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even if you if you have a predilection of an

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addictive behavior, then you need to be aware of it.

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I mean, even like in the recent reports, you know,

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Susie wilds Uh said that Donald Trump and into his

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own admission, agree that he does have an addictive behavior.

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So the only way that keeps him from being you know,

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acting it out is he stays away from the things

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that would take him down that and that deep road

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of addiction.

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Right, yeah, certainly.

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And just to circle back to your last point about

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social media, did hear an interesting thing on the radio

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that there was somebody you know, there are party hosters,

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right people parties or throw these party whatever the individual

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was the party. The party hoster was having a technology

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free party. You know, no phones, nothing allowed. Sold out

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in a second. Seven hundred people, young people, of course,

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there's younger people, these are years, et cetera. Sold out

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in a second. And I think there's a yearning for that, right,

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for a disconnect to technology and a connect, a human connection.

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And I think the gen.

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Z and the generation after them, the young one that

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have largely come up without that necessary human connection. I

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think they there's an inherent want and need for it.

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So I think it's important that you talked about that

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and touched on it, and that to the extent of

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which we could continue to talk about that and promote

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it is necessary for this because you see the damage

479
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technology does and social media does on the minds of everyone,

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particularly the most vulnerable, those developing minds, those folks in

481
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their youth and teenage years in early twenties. But I

482
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think that shows that, hey, maybe there's going to be

483
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some sort of we re examination, backlash if you will,

484
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of technology from young people and saying maybe we're going

485
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to set this down.

486
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Now.

487
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You're seeing it with schools, right, they're saying, hey, no phones.

488
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Would you take the phones away from kids at schools?

489
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The test score shoot up? So I think that's pretty

490
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much established now. So that's going to be done.

491
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But well, I think you touched on something here because

492
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it's a natural transition for your humanity to find balance.

493
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Right.

494
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And John Naismith in his book Mega Trends I don't

495
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know thirty years ago or so, talked about is technology

496
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would increase. He called it high tech, high touch, so

497
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his technology would increase, then there would be a deeper

498
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yearning for touch. To your exact point, and this is

499
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what we are is that people are realizing naturally in

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order to find balance. Is you've got to connect with humanity.

501
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If you don't, I'll tell you we're talking. You know,

502
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more suicides, more damage, more, Yeah, exactly, exactly. Well, we

503
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got to leave it there until we talk again, Michael,

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So appreciate your insight. Mike O'Neil, who is with Landmark Legal,

505
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Thank you, Mike. Take care. Merry Christmas to you.

506
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My friend.

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Nutrition for Patriots, Hey, good morning, welcome back Bill Martinez.

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Here.

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Great to have you with us, sharing your part of

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your day. For more info on the show, Bill Martinez

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Live dot com. We've got the Manhattan based Fox News

581
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contributor to Roy Murdoch with us. Now Hey to Roy,

582
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Merry Christmas.

583
00:29:25.480 --> 00:29:26.960
Meryor Christmas Bill good, fuck you.

584
00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:29.359
Hey, always good to talk to you. You know, you

585
00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:31.680
say Merry Christmas, and it's interesting because if you're in

586
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a red state, they kind of answer you back, Merry Christmas.

587
00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:34.839
Blue.

588
00:29:35.240 --> 00:29:37.480
They're a little sull in these days. I don't know.

589
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:40.400
Maybe it's just because they got a lot of cold

590
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in their stocking. I'm not sure.

591
00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:44.880
Well, you get that, of course, you get digual happy Holidays,

592
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which for me feels like a like a cold handshake.

593
00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:49.920
I mean I always say merk Christmas, and here in

594
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New York I say it. Actually elsewhere I say maryor Christmas,

595
00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:54.079
Happy Honic, Happy New Year. I figure at least one

596
00:29:54.119 --> 00:29:58.400
of them will apply. I never ever ever say happy Holidays.

597
00:29:58.440 --> 00:30:02.519
It just sounds very cold and disengaged, in generic and boring.

598
00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:05.640
Yeah, it's just it's like old school. I mean, we've

599
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already tried that, it went through it, and the fact

600
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of the matter is is, you know, people's attitudes during

601
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that time, and especially I felt for you know, especially

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these young kids and everybody is it's used to saying

603
00:30:16.079 --> 00:30:19.480
Merry Christmas. That their corporations were forcing them to say,

604
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well you got to say holiday. You know if you

605
00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:24.799
if you say Christmas, you're going to offend somebody and

606
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then your job could be reckoned.

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You know.

608
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Well they had that attitude. And the thing is, I'm not

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a particularly ruthious person, but Christmas for me is all

610
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about being with my family. It's about wonderful memories I

611
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have of my grandparents cooking and having eggnog with them

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and you know, being a little boy and opening up

613
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the Christmas gifts and getting my train sets and so forth.

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And when they want to take away Christmas, they're taking

615
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all that stuff away from us. Whether you're a religious

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person or not. I mean, I think we all share

617
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memories of like that at Christmas time, and the all

618
00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:54.759
I do, oh that's offensive. Well, there's nothing offensive about

619
00:30:54.799 --> 00:30:57.640
me remembering, you know, being six or seven years old,

620
00:30:58.400 --> 00:31:00.359
was getting a train set under the Christmas I mean,

621
00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:02.480
those are those are good memories. We should cherish those,

622
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whether you're a religious person or not. So you know,

623
00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:07.400
if you find that offensive, maybe you shouldn't get on

624
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and find a new hobby. As my sister likes to say, Yeah,

625
00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:10.680
who was it?

626
00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:13.039
Was it David Spade or something that, you know, because

627
00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:15.440
people were complaining, they were going to the malls at

628
00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:18.400
Christmas time. They were complaining about it, you know, the

629
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:22.359
whole Christmas festivity and everything is hello, you know, this

630
00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:26.279
is Christmas, I mean kind of thing is. It's like,

631
00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:30.759
why are you, you know, trying to negate the obvious?

632
00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:32.519
Like you said, you know, people have grown up. This

633
00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:35.160
is family tradition and if you don't want to share

634
00:31:35.160 --> 00:31:38.079
in that tradition, that's okay. You don't have to. But

635
00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:40.599
you know, you can be a humbug if that's what

636
00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:43.079
you want, or you know, be happy to be however

637
00:31:43.160 --> 00:31:46.039
it is that you want. It's okay. I'm not offended.

638
00:31:46.640 --> 00:31:48.160
Yeah, I agree with you. You know, I'm not Jewish, but

639
00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:50.279
I say Happy Honic to my Jewish friends and it

640
00:31:50.319 --> 00:31:52.559
doesn't diminish me or make me weaker or it cost

641
00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:55.160
me money to do so. So you know, they're just

642
00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:56.880
people who wake up in the morning they think, well,

643
00:31:56.960 --> 00:31:58.240
you know, how can I find a way to be

644
00:31:58.319 --> 00:32:01.519
miserable and make everyone und me missable? And unfortunately we

645
00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:03.640
have millions of people like that, and they're just they're

646
00:32:03.640 --> 00:32:06.880
not contempt unless they're making everybody around them unhappy. And

647
00:32:06.920 --> 00:32:08.759
that's just really sad and kind of a complete waste

648
00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:10.720
of time and energy and a really terrible way to

649
00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:11.440
live your life.

650
00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:13.920
Yeah, that's like wanting to spend an afternoon with the

651
00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:18.000
View or maybe Rosie O'Donnell. I mean, it's like you

652
00:32:18.119 --> 00:32:21.039
come away and you need therapy. I mean, here you

653
00:32:21.079 --> 00:32:24.000
got the other day, you know, poor Whoopie. You know,

654
00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:27.960
she's launching off at President Trump because he didn't talk

655
00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:31.720
about Brown University or he didn't talk about Australia, and

656
00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:35.000
then they go to quick break and she's taught that

657
00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:37.400
always a matter of fact, the President did. So then

658
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:39.839
she had to come back and kind of give a

659
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side mouth apology for not being aware that President Trump had,

660
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in fact, you know, mentioned the Brown University shooting as

661
00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:54.880
well as what happened in Australia and sent his condolences

662
00:32:54.920 --> 00:32:58.720
and feelings about it, you know, to the nation and everything.

663
00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:01.759
And so I mean, these people just go around and

664
00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:06.359
they're just, you know, so uncivil that anything triggers them.

665
00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:08.839
De Roy, I mean, how sad, you know, I feel

666
00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:11.440
for Whoopy, I feel for Rosie. I mean, Rosie's just

667
00:33:11.799 --> 00:33:15.759
I mean, she's got Trump derangement, says, syndrome so bad

668
00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:18.799
that it's gonna it's probably gonna take her a decade, uh,

669
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:21.599
you know, to find some kind of balance in her

670
00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:22.279
mental life.

671
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:26.880
Well, you're right about the derangement syndrome, which is something

672
00:33:26.920 --> 00:33:28.680
these people have, and it's it's only worse I think

673
00:33:28.680 --> 00:33:32.079
in the second administration that's possible. Uh. And also you

674
00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:34.799
point to this idea or this effect of Whippy saying, oh,

675
00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:37.559
Trump didn't say about Brown University of the Australian massacre,

676
00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:40.799
which is so so brutal and horrible and just tragic

677
00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:44.039
in so many respects. I'm sure Whoopy Goldberg has at

678
00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:46.480
least one or two staffers, if not the entire staff

679
00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:48.559
of the View, which is probably in the dozens. What

680
00:33:48.559 --> 00:33:50.559
would have taken her to say? Could you guys just

681
00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:52.839
look up real quick on the internet see if Donald J.

682
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Trump said anything about Brown and about the Australia thing.

683
00:33:55.640 --> 00:33:57.599
Maybe didn't, then great, you know, hit him for it.

684
00:33:57.759 --> 00:34:00.839
But you know, if the staffer comes back thirty seconds later,

685
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:03.559
go yeah, here's his Twitter comment or here's his comment

686
00:34:03.640 --> 00:34:05.720
on truth social or here's a clip from the White

687
00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:07.440
House where he said it. Then she'll say, all right, well,

688
00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:09.000
I can't attack him on it, and she can either

689
00:34:09.320 --> 00:34:10.960
praise him for it or just not even mention it.

690
00:34:11.000 --> 00:34:14.039
But shees just mords this stuff out. Doesn't do ten

691
00:34:14.119 --> 00:34:18.360
seconds of homework, doesn't do you know, five seconds of preparation,

692
00:34:18.760 --> 00:34:21.920
blast us out on live television on ABC News The Views,

693
00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:24.360
an ABC News program, by it way, not entertainment, not

694
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:26.760
very good entertainment. It's technically a news show. And so

695
00:34:26.760 --> 00:34:29.119
she just you know, spreads fake news across the country

696
00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:31.000
to millions of people and then has to come back

697
00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:33.360
and apologize. And I'm sure that people who had things

698
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that do turn off the channel had to go go

699
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back to work, go to work whatever, and think, oh

700
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:39.639
my god, Trump never said anything about Australia and Brown.

701
00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:41.559
What a mean, nasty, disgusting guy, when in fact he

702
00:34:41.599 --> 00:34:44.719
did so. Again We've discussed this before. These democrats so

703
00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:47.039
often just run off and invent things and say things

704
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without any basis. And it's one thing if it's a

705
00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:52.719
complex topic that requires a lot of research and you know,

706
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:55.400
digging for facts and figures, but you know, you put

707
00:34:55.400 --> 00:34:59.559
on Google Trump comment Brown University, Australia, and instantly you'll

708
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get the and you either hit him if you don't

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said anything about it, or or say that you realize

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you did and then neither mention it or just move

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00:35:06.719 --> 00:35:08.760
on to something else. But these guys won't do won't

712
00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:12.119
do you know, ten seconds of research to figure this

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714
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high school, you know, the newspaper class. You know, check

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your facts before you run out and say the stuff

716
00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:21.239
in public. And these guys just cannot do that. It's

717
00:35:21.320 --> 00:35:21.760
tonn well.

718
00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:24.679
They have the same fact checkers as Jasmine Crockett. Could

719
00:35:24.719 --> 00:35:27.840
you imagine th Deroy if you were the producer of

720
00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:30.480
the View. I mean I can just picture him banging

721
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:33.400
or her banging her head, his head up against the wall,

722
00:35:33.480 --> 00:35:36.000
going oh we're gonna get sued again. We're going to

723
00:35:36.039 --> 00:35:39.920
get to again. You know, go to commercial and it's.

724
00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:42.239
Like click clean up on ale, whoopie, you know, oh

725
00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:43.000
my gosh.

726
00:35:43.119 --> 00:35:46.760
I mean it's like, uh, it's unbelievable. But it's just,

727
00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:49.679
you know, again, the lack of civility. This is where

728
00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:51.679
we are. And I keep thinking, Okay, when are we

729
00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:54.559
going to have enough to where, uh there can be

730
00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:58.000
some reason in our country or is it just one

731
00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:00.519
day We're going to turn on the TV and Whoopee

732
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:03.800
and Joy and everybody's head's just going to explode live

733
00:36:03.840 --> 00:36:06.280
on television. They just like you.

734
00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:08.519
You know, I just did this. I just googled Trump's

735
00:36:08.519 --> 00:36:13.320
statement Brown Australia. I had return and literally within four seconds,

736
00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:15.719
the first thing I see President Trump addresses Bondie and

737
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:18.320
Brown shootings. That took me four seconds. They didn't do

738
00:36:18.400 --> 00:36:22.360
four seconds of research on this, right, Well, believe the dell.

739
00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:24.599
Is, well, the Dell is you can't control Whoopee. You

740
00:36:24.599 --> 00:36:27.760
know Whoopy's got, you know, her fan or fifties on

741
00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:30.320
her hip and she's just firing away. And especially if

742
00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:33.159
anything with Trump, you know, like you said, CDs. But

743
00:36:33.639 --> 00:36:35.440
you know, kind of sad, what a waste of talent

744
00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:38.079
and uh you know, a waste of airtime that you

745
00:36:38.119 --> 00:36:43.280
would contribute this kind of delusion, you know, to the

746
00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:46.480
American people, because it doesn't unite us, and especially at

747
00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:49.719
a time in season when you want to peace on earth,

748
00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:50.840
good will to men, right.

749
00:36:51.719 --> 00:36:54.119
Yeah, you would, I mean I can't sep It was

750
00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:57.360
calmed down for two seconds. They seemed capable of either.

751
00:36:57.480 --> 00:36:59.559
If they can't say ay nice about anything nice about

752
00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:01.719
the president, to talk about something else. There a lot

753
00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:06.000
of other topics, happy topics, serious topics, and they've got

754
00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:08.440
to go off and again make stuff up, invent things.

755
00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:11.559
I mean, if they're I want to present criticize President Trump,

756
00:37:11.599 --> 00:37:13.760
there's lots of stuff you can say. I was not

757
00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:16.440
very happy with this comments about Rob Reiner and attacking

758
00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:19.119
somebody and making me mocking the maspry after he's been

759
00:37:19.679 --> 00:37:21.679
killed by his own son slashing his throat. I mean,

760
00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:23.360
he doesn't get much worse than that, and then of

761
00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:25.840
course his wife being killed too. I wish President Trump

762
00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:27.519
had not made the comments he did. You want to

763
00:37:27.519 --> 00:37:30.079
criticize them about something, criticize him about that. But again,

764
00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:31.599
oh my god, he didn't say hm about Brown in

765
00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:34.599
Australia and he did and again took me four seconds

766
00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:37.800
on Google to find that. I mean, it's amazing. And

767
00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:39.400
she's got more staff than I do. I mean, she

768
00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:41.280
I'm sure she's got at least three or four people

769
00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:43.000
who do just work for her and take care of

770
00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:45.920
whatever her needs are. And she's not able to make

771
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:48.719
that happen. That's just malpractice, is what it is.

772
00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:53.079
No, it really is. And again it contributes, you know,

773
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:56.440
to this delusion that we have in the country that

774
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you know is it seems because with anti Semitism and

775
00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:04.360
everything that's going on right now, I mean, they're not

776
00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:07.880
getting it. They're not seeing any kind of contribution or

777
00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:11.599
affiliation with their words and the stuff that's going out there.

778
00:38:11.760 --> 00:38:17.360
I mean, the reverberations of their language, you know, is

779
00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:21.599
running deep right now. And a country that you know,

780
00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:24.639
here we are with a lot of immigrants that we

781
00:38:24.679 --> 00:38:28.000
don't know what is driving them. You know, they can

782
00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:31.320
feel justified to do just about anything because you know,

783
00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:33.679
Hitler is not good and we need to get rid

784
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of Hitler.

785
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:36.880
Well you're right about that. And you saw what happened

786
00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:40.079
in Australia, which was a horrible tragedy and killed fifteen

787
00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:42.159
people into twenty four or something like that at a

788
00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:44.199
Honka celebration. Here we are in the orchestra. A couple

789
00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:46.559
nights ago, a couple of Orthodox choos were on the

790
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:50.639
subway and they were attacked by a couple of black

791
00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:53.519
Euyes who were makmucking fun, making fun of them and

792
00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:56.519
mocking them and attacking them and all this and I

793
00:38:56.559 --> 00:38:58.719
don't think those guys have been caught. So this is

794
00:38:58.800 --> 00:39:01.840
not just an Australian problem happening in this country. We

795
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:05.840
see the number of antisubmitic attacks going up unfortunately, a

796
00:39:05.880 --> 00:39:08.599
lot of surveys where people are not only becoming anti Israel,

797
00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:11.719
but carrying that on, becoming pro homoster and even beyond

798
00:39:11.719 --> 00:39:14.519
the becoming anti Jewish. So this is a very very

799
00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:16.400
serious problem and we need to get a handle on this.

800
00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:18.000
I think it's going to get super super ugly in

801
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this country very quick.

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Bill Martinez here with Roy Murdoch in the Manhattan based

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You know, JEROI was.

887
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Interesting because, you know, speaking of the anti Semitism, you know,

888
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Australia embraced Hamas, you know, and so they really kind

889
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of contributed to this, you know, this violence towards Jews.

890
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I believe just by their own I mean, this wasn't

891
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just a couple of people, and this is this was

892
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Australia's leadership embracing Hamas over Israel.

893
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Yeah, that's right, and I believe Prime Minister net Yahoo

894
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of Israel contacted the Prime Minister of Australians. And if

895
00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:09.639
you back Amas and recognized the Palestinian authority, you're going

896
00:44:09.719 --> 00:44:11.760
to have more in Semitic attaxes. It's going to reward

897
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Hamas for their massacre of October seventh, and just in Bolden,

898
00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:18.679
anti Semites and people are anti Israel. And eventually, not

899
00:44:18.760 --> 00:44:21.400
just in terms of the Rhetorican comments, but in fact,

900
00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:23.719
as we saw a few days ago, these two guys,

901
00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:25.760
father and son. What a great father and son project.

902
00:44:26.119 --> 00:44:29.119
Get some guns in open fire and kill fifteen people

903
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in twenty four injured twenty fourth the samic Otica celebration.

904
00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:36.760
So this is the kind of These are the results

905
00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:39.480
of people backing Hamas. And by the way, if Australia

906
00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:43.719
wanted to recognize the Palestine Authority, et cetera, the least

907
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they should have done. I say, look, we'll do this,

908
00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:47.320
but in exchange, we want to release a number of

909
00:44:47.360 --> 00:44:50.559
hostages or send back some dead bodies or something. This

910
00:44:50.599 --> 00:44:54.280
also happened in England or in Great Britain Prime Ministers

911
00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:58.559
Starmer also back to the idea of Palestinian state. I mean,

912
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if the UK this is very you just have the

913
00:45:01.400 --> 00:45:04.079
United Kingdom back the idea of a Palestinian state again,

914
00:45:04.280 --> 00:45:06.039
why not say look, we'll do it, but we need

915
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you to let smasses out or send back some dead

916
00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:11.360
bodies or get something. But this whole left wing notion,

917
00:45:11.400 --> 00:45:13.639
I guess it's part of the giveaway culture. Just giveaway

918
00:45:13.679 --> 00:45:17.400
stuff for free and expect nothing in return. Really stupid

919
00:45:17.440 --> 00:45:19.559
and the wrong thing to do, and the wrong thing

920
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to do at the worst price, which is to get

921
00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:23.639
nothing in return for that sort of.

922
00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:27.599
Behavior, well exactly, you know, you mentioned, you know, the

923
00:45:27.639 --> 00:45:33.679
horrific murders of Rob Reiner and his wife. And one

924
00:45:33.719 --> 00:45:37.119
of the things that's not being reported on at all whatsoever,

925
00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:40.280
which I think is just a huge discrepancy of the

926
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:44.119
mainstream media, and that is Donald Trump is the only

927
00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:47.880
one that's doing anything about the war on drugs, you know,

928
00:45:48.039 --> 00:45:51.440
and the Reiner family is just one of another of

929
00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:55.519
the million stories in this naked city of drug addiction,

930
00:45:56.119 --> 00:46:00.639
and that all the you know, all just the and

931
00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:05.320
you know, lift service to a war on drugs. And

932
00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:08.840
Trump is the one who constantly is defending life, whether

933
00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:12.800
it's life in Israel or life in Ukraine and Russia.

934
00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:15.079
You know, too many people are dying. Too many people

935
00:46:15.079 --> 00:46:17.719
are dying now. People are dying here. And it's fentanyl

936
00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:19.880
and it's heroine. It's drugs that have been going on

937
00:46:19.960 --> 00:46:23.519
for decades that are killing our kids. And now it's

938
00:46:23.559 --> 00:46:26.400
not bad enough, it's killing our kids. Now it's killing

939
00:46:26.480 --> 00:46:29.360
the parents of the kids. And you know, this is

940
00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:33.119
all it's all contributory deroi and they're not seeing the

941
00:46:33.159 --> 00:46:36.719
connection here. And Donald Trump, thank god, it's taking a

942
00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:38.880
stand saying look, it. If you're going to do harm

943
00:46:38.920 --> 00:46:41.320
to our country, then I'm going to blow the holy

944
00:46:41.360 --> 00:46:42.639
hell out of the water with you.

945
00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:47.280
Okay, yeah, absolutely right, as well he should. And as

946
00:46:47.280 --> 00:46:50.280
you say, the death toll in this is extraordinary. The

947
00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:52.519
number of people killed by setting all in this country

948
00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:55.199
is somewhere in the ranger or somewhere in the near about

949
00:46:55.199 --> 00:46:58.360
seventy thousand a year, seven zero thousand. That's some more

950
00:46:58.880 --> 00:47:00.880
dead bodies in one year. Then there were fifty than

951
00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:03.239
there were the number of body bags that came back

952
00:47:03.280 --> 00:47:05.440
with American gis in them during the Vietnam War, which

953
00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:08.400
is around fifty eight thousand over a ten or fifteen

954
00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:10.639
well probably about a fifteen year period, something like this.

955
00:47:11.400 --> 00:47:13.920
Seventy thousand a year over one year versus fifty eight

956
00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:16.840
thousand over like twelve to fifteen years. That's the scale

957
00:47:16.840 --> 00:47:19.280
of this thing. And yes, President Trump is doing something

958
00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:22.320
about it, pressuring the Chinese not to send the precursors

959
00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:25.239
of fatanyl into Mexico. It gets cooked up and sent

960
00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:27.280
across the border, or it was until the water closed,

961
00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:29.400
thank god. And now these folks are bringing drugs in

962
00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:31.239
on these drug boats. He's blowing up the drug boats

963
00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:34.119
there's a very good comment by Senator Tim See of Montana,

964
00:47:34.639 --> 00:47:37.239
who I believe is a former Navy seal, not mistaken,

965
00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:39.800
And he's asked the Democrats, right, you don't like the

966
00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:41.960
drug boats being blown up? What's your alternative? Do you

967
00:47:41.960 --> 00:47:44.440
want the Navy seals to go in and interdict the boats?

968
00:47:44.599 --> 00:47:46.920
And he said, interdicting a boat on the high seas

969
00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:49.719
while it's underway moving forward is one of the most

970
00:47:49.800 --> 00:47:53.199
dangerous types of military intervention because these guys obviously armed,

971
00:47:53.480 --> 00:47:55.760
they see a helicopter coming in with a bunch of

972
00:47:55.840 --> 00:47:57.840
Navy seals on it, are they going to surrender?

973
00:47:57.880 --> 00:47:57.960
Now?

974
00:47:57.960 --> 00:47:59.599
They're going to get their guns out and open fire

975
00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:01.960
on these these people, right and if they know, if

976
00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:03.320
they get the water and try to get on board

977
00:48:03.320 --> 00:48:04.960
the ship, they're going to get the guns out and

978
00:48:04.960 --> 00:48:07.000
get the knives out, and you're gonna have, you know,

979
00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:08.960
dead Navy seals in the water. Is this what the

980
00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:12.000
Democrats want? Is this what the people who again because

981
00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:14.800
of trumped arrangement syndrome, attack anything and everything he does.

982
00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:18.360
That's their alternative? Then just be ready for a bunch

983
00:48:18.400 --> 00:48:21.960
of body bags coming into Dover, Delaware with Navy seals inside.

984
00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:24.880
Of them and then crying and grieving parents of these

985
00:48:25.119 --> 00:48:28.199
very brave usgis when they come in and have to

986
00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:31.800
be prepared for military funerals and taps to be sounded

987
00:48:31.840 --> 00:48:34.679
on bugles over their caskets. That's what we can look

988
00:48:34.719 --> 00:48:37.519
forward to. If these people insist that we read these

989
00:48:38.039 --> 00:48:41.360
read these folks the Miranda rights, and I guess get

990
00:48:41.400 --> 00:48:44.519
ready for the a CLU lawyers to defend them. And

991
00:48:44.519 --> 00:48:46.000
I don't think they'll get that far because they'll end

992
00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:48.639
up with gunfire on the I Seas and by deaths

993
00:48:48.679 --> 00:48:50.559
on both sides anyway. So I don't think that approach

994
00:48:50.639 --> 00:48:52.800
is going to save a lot of lives, despite you know,

995
00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:56.119
all these people coming out screaming, kneeling about these strikes

996
00:48:56.159 --> 00:48:56.800
on these boats.

997
00:48:57.159 --> 00:48:59.159
You know, it seems to be consistent deroy that the

998
00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:01.440
Democrats and I and I hate to penan on them,

999
00:49:01.480 --> 00:49:05.559
but it just seems obvious that they have no idea

1000
00:49:05.559 --> 00:49:08.360
about rules of engagement. They have no idea about conducting

1001
00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:12.000
a war. You know, just you know, whether you're talking

1002
00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:15.159
about Joe Biden, Barack Obama, just go write down the

1003
00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:20.440
list of Democrats they're lousy at conducting wars. Republicans know

1004
00:49:20.840 --> 00:49:23.639
that you put the generals in charge, you empower them,

1005
00:49:23.920 --> 00:49:25.800
let them go and do what they do best. They

1006
00:49:25.840 --> 00:49:28.119
go break things up, they kill people, and they get

1007
00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:30.639
people to the bargaining tables so that peace can reign.

1008
00:49:31.400 --> 00:49:34.519
The Democrats think that they can negotiate themselves out of it.

1009
00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:37.639
And this is why, you know, the war on drugs

1010
00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:40.559
has become a fiasco. All this chaos that we're dealing

1011
00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:45.199
with right now, you know, sex delusion and everything like that. Affordability,

1012
00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:49.960
you can pin that on Democrat policies. These blue states.

1013
00:49:50.119 --> 00:49:54.159
You're writing an article about more tax on tips, blue

1014
00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:57.360
states undercutting new federal tax cuts. I mean, they just

1015
00:49:57.400 --> 00:49:58.480
can't stand it right.

1016
00:49:59.119 --> 00:50:02.480
No, don't seem to be able to leave anything alone

1017
00:50:02.519 --> 00:50:05.360
that might except President Trump. The Republicans look good. I

1018
00:50:05.400 --> 00:50:08.280
have a piece in the Daily Signal and the headline

1019
00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:12.119
is more tax on tips, Blue states on undercutting federal

1020
00:50:12.119 --> 00:50:14.840
tax cuts. And what we've seen right now is the

1021
00:50:14.840 --> 00:50:18.039
states of Colorado, Illinois, Maine, and New York where I am,

1022
00:50:18.679 --> 00:50:22.039
are basically trying to undercut the no tax on tips,

1023
00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:25.239
no tax on overtime, and no tax on sold security benefits,

1024
00:50:25.239 --> 00:50:29.760
and even some of the business tax reductions. DC local

1025
00:50:29.800 --> 00:50:32.320
governments doing this, And basically what they're doing is normally,

1026
00:50:32.360 --> 00:50:34.159
when you have a federal tax cut, the state and

1027
00:50:34.159 --> 00:50:37.199
local taxes are adjusted accordingly. And what they were saying, well,

1028
00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:39.079
you know, on your federal taxes, you'll save this money,

1029
00:50:39.119 --> 00:50:41.039
but we're not going to adjust the state taxes. So

1030
00:50:41.440 --> 00:50:44.760
when you get your no tax on tips deduction federally

1031
00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:47.960
on your state taxes in New York and Illinois, Colorado,

1032
00:50:48.039 --> 00:50:50.000
and I believe the DC local tax you have to

1033
00:50:50.039 --> 00:50:52.639
take that tax cut and added back as income into

1034
00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:56.119
your taxable income for those three states and for actually

1035
00:50:56.119 --> 00:50:58.880
four states and for Washington, d C. So you know

1036
00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:01.599
what Trump giveth at the local take it the way

1037
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:05.760
Jared Polist Polists taken away, and also Governor Pritzker in

1038
00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:09.800
in Illinois the same thing, so and in Maine, and

1039
00:51:09.840 --> 00:51:12.519
then also in Washington, d C. So this is Democrats saying, look,

1040
00:51:12.519 --> 00:51:14.679
we don't want to give Trump any credit for making

1041
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:18.000
life any more affordable affordable for people, while they also

1042
00:51:18.039 --> 00:51:20.599
scream out of affordability. We're going to make sure that

1043
00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:22.519
this tax good is something we're going to put back

1044
00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:25.639
into text taxial income and tax at the state level

1045
00:51:25.719 --> 00:51:27.840
and give people less money that they need in order

1046
00:51:27.880 --> 00:51:30.880
to pay their bills, by their groceries, purchase gasoline to

1047
00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:32.840
and from work, et cetera, et cetera. So again it's

1048
00:51:32.880 --> 00:51:36.320
just the Democrats. Grab, grab, take, take, take sticky figures

1049
00:51:36.480 --> 00:51:40.559
is just another example of basically Democrat political creed.

1050
00:51:41.320 --> 00:51:44.159
Well, this is what uh, you know, leads people to believe,

1051
00:51:44.519 --> 00:51:47.920
and it's the Democratic Party. You know, there is such

1052
00:51:47.960 --> 00:51:51.039
a thing as thou shall not steal, and the Democratic

1053
00:51:51.360 --> 00:51:56.320
this is this is thievery. They're stealing from its own citizenry.

1054
00:51:56.920 --> 00:51:59.039
And the citizens need to wake up and smell the

1055
00:51:59.079 --> 00:52:01.239
coffee here and go, hey, enough of this stuff and

1056
00:52:01.400 --> 00:52:05.440
start doing you know what Starmar's facing in England right

1057
00:52:05.519 --> 00:52:08.320
with the farmers going, We've had enough this stuff. You're

1058
00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:09.880
not going to steal us into oblivion.

1059
00:52:11.079 --> 00:52:12.840
Yeah, they should, and people ought to be aware of

1060
00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:15.519
if they don't feel the full effect of the Trump

1061
00:52:15.639 --> 00:52:17.960
GOP tax cuts from the one big beautiful bill. Who

1062
00:52:18.000 --> 00:52:20.880
one big beautiful tax because I'm calling it, you know,

1063
00:52:21.239 --> 00:52:23.760
call your governor, call your mayor. If you're in Washingt, DC,

1064
00:52:23.880 --> 00:52:26.320
you could call these Democrats who are not letting people

1065
00:52:26.440 --> 00:52:29.840
enjoy the full benefit of these tax reductions, which they

1066
00:52:29.920 --> 00:52:31.960
earn at which they've earned through their hard work and

1067
00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:34.880
through all of their sacrifices they make on a daily basis.

1068
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:36.920
And it's the Republicans trying to put more money in

1069
00:52:36.920 --> 00:52:39.400
their pockets, and it's the Democrats type trying to take

1070
00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:41.320
the same money out of their pockets all over again,

1071
00:52:41.639 --> 00:52:43.679
which is really about the only thing that and probably

1072
00:52:43.760 --> 00:52:46.400
racial division and advocacy of public violence, those about the

1073
00:52:46.400 --> 00:52:48.559
only the only things that the Democrats do well anymore.

1074
00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:51.840
Yeah, if you can't call your governor, call you haul.

1075
00:52:53.559 --> 00:52:55.199
If you can't call your governor, call you haul and

1076
00:52:55.880 --> 00:52:59.360
head off to the free states of Texas, Tennessee, and Florida,

1077
00:52:59.360 --> 00:53:01.159
where people out and after the income tax and get

1078
00:53:01.199 --> 00:53:04.039
the get the full benefit of this this federal tax

1079
00:53:04.119 --> 00:53:06.519
cut and then no no state income tax built from

1080
00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:08.760
the from the governor's Yeah, I mean.

1081
00:53:09.039 --> 00:53:11.320
There's going to be such an obvious imbalance here there

1082
00:53:11.320 --> 00:53:13.559
already is just between the blue and red states. Every

1083
00:53:13.599 --> 00:53:18.880
time you look at whatever you know, uh, whatever undergirds

1084
00:53:18.960 --> 00:53:23.679
the economy, you see, you know, it's a it's a

1085
00:53:23.960 --> 00:53:26.760
it's two state madness here. You got the Blue States

1086
00:53:26.920 --> 00:53:29.239
and the Red states. The Red States are happy peace

1087
00:53:29.320 --> 00:53:32.199
on Earth. They're enjoying their Christmas and the Blue States.

1088
00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:35.159
It's a blue, blue, blue, blue Christmas is Elvis.

1089
00:53:35.400 --> 00:53:39.039
Was saying, right, Yeah, that's exactly right. And another example

1090
00:53:39.039 --> 00:53:41.199
of this nonsense. I just spoke with the fellow Fox

1091
00:53:41.320 --> 00:53:44.239
News contributor Jonathan Hoenig and the Green room downstairs waiting

1092
00:53:44.239 --> 00:53:46.719
for Stuart Barney show. He lives in Chicago, and he's

1093
00:53:46.760 --> 00:53:49.960
telling that they raised they just they just raised the

1094
00:53:50.039 --> 00:53:53.559
tax on his parking spot. Uh so the parking tax

1095
00:53:53.599 --> 00:53:55.280
has gone up. And I said, well, Jonathan, but you're

1096
00:53:55.280 --> 00:53:57.760
getting them. You know, they warm up your your parking

1097
00:53:57.800 --> 00:54:00.360
spot there so your car stays warm. And sure they

1098
00:54:00.440 --> 00:54:02.280
painted the line so you have a better parking spot.

1099
00:54:02.360 --> 00:54:03.880
He said, no, it's the same thing. So it's the

1100
00:54:03.920 --> 00:54:06.239
same piece of tar. They're just charging you more money

1101
00:54:06.280 --> 00:54:09.639
for having that piece of tar in Chicago. And Brandon

1102
00:54:09.679 --> 00:54:13.719
Johnson's maybe possibly the worst mayor in the country, and

1103
00:54:13.719 --> 00:54:16.119
there's a lot of competition for that title. There is

1104
00:54:16.159 --> 00:54:18.559
again racing taxes on people in Chicago. What people say,

1105
00:54:18.559 --> 00:54:20.199
you know what, I've had it. I'm off to Florida,

1106
00:54:20.199 --> 00:54:22.400
I'm off of Tennessee. I'm moving to Texas. And the

1107
00:54:22.679 --> 00:54:24.719
responses Okay, how can we keep you here? Can we

1108
00:54:24.880 --> 00:54:27.880
let you keep a little more money? No, The responses are, okay,

1109
00:54:27.920 --> 00:54:29.159
we're going to take more of your money, make your

1110
00:54:29.159 --> 00:54:32.320
life more miserable. Will also crime is rampant, and you

1111
00:54:32.360 --> 00:54:34.599
know why be surprised when people, as you say, call

1112
00:54:34.679 --> 00:54:36.760
you haul, pack up their things and off they go

1113
00:54:36.840 --> 00:54:39.199
to the South where they can save money and also

1114
00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:41.920
probably live safer lives well.

1115
00:54:42.000 --> 00:54:44.559
And the unfortunate thing is the media, of course, is

1116
00:54:44.599 --> 00:54:47.280
going to focus on these blue states and talk about

1117
00:54:47.320 --> 00:54:51.880
the lack of affordability without even citing the policies that

1118
00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:54.440
the states are enacting, because that's what they do. I mean,

1119
00:54:54.599 --> 00:54:58.440
like anything. You know, when anything is subsidized, you know,

1120
00:54:58.639 --> 00:55:01.159
the buzzards come out and the state is you know,

1121
00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:02.920
they got to get their big right.

1122
00:55:02.840 --> 00:55:06.400
Off the top right absolutely, always, always, always get their share.

1123
00:55:06.679 --> 00:55:08.360
Government always gets the share because you know, if you'll

1124
00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:12.159
give them their share, look put you in jail. You know, Walmart.

1125
00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:15.360
Walmart can't do that. Best Buy can't do that, Whole

1126
00:55:15.400 --> 00:55:17.920
Foods can't do that. But if you don't give Brandon

1127
00:55:18.280 --> 00:55:22.719
Johnson or Kathy Hokle or god forbid, Kevin Newsom their

1128
00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:25.679
their their share of whatever they're screaming for. You know

1129
00:55:26.239 --> 00:55:29.159
they handle they respontted up by throwing you into the clink.

1130
00:55:29.559 --> 00:55:32.599
And you can think about think about tax cuts while

1131
00:55:32.599 --> 00:55:33.480
you're behind bars.

1132
00:55:34.239 --> 00:55:37.519
And and and think about a new residence in zip

1133
00:55:37.559 --> 00:55:41.360
code that you'd much rather live in because the doors

1134
00:55:41.400 --> 00:55:45.039
are open here Florida and Texas and Tennessee, uh and

1135
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:48.119
uh and a lot of red states that you know,

1136
00:55:48.840 --> 00:55:51.079
where the people are enjoying a very merry Christmas and

1137
00:55:51.159 --> 00:55:54.159
that's what we want for everybody. Jeri Murnas is always

1138
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a very merry one for you and the family. Thank

1139
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Getting America back on track. Bill Martinez Live.

1163
00:57:17.280 --> 00:57:19.519
Welcome morning, and welcome. Six minutes after the top of

1164
00:57:19.639 --> 00:57:22.920
our Bill Martinez here with my good friend pastor Lucas Miles.

1165
00:57:22.920 --> 00:57:26.000
We're gonna talk about his new book, Pagan Threat, Confronting

1166
00:57:26.199 --> 00:57:30.920
America's Godless Uprising. But before we do, first of all,

1167
00:57:31.079 --> 00:57:33.039
welcome Lucas. Good to have you back for this has

1168
00:57:33.079 --> 00:57:33.559
been a minute.

1169
00:57:33.880 --> 00:57:35.480
Thank you, Bill. Always good to see you.

1170
00:57:35.599 --> 00:57:37.920
You're one of the best out there at honor be

1171
00:57:38.039 --> 00:57:38.440
on the show.

1172
00:57:38.800 --> 00:57:41.800
Well, you're very kind. I must say this at the

1173
00:57:41.920 --> 00:57:46.239
opening and people know, most people are aware that you

1174
00:57:46.320 --> 00:57:50.119
were associated with Charlie Kirk and with Turning Point Faith,

1175
00:57:51.400 --> 00:57:55.199
and you know, and our hearts remain heavy as God

1176
00:57:55.320 --> 00:57:59.119
takes us through this period of grief and mourning and

1177
00:58:00.480 --> 00:58:03.239
renew them because that's one thing God, God just won't

1178
00:58:03.280 --> 00:58:04.960
allow the static to stay there. Right.

1179
00:58:06.159 --> 00:58:09.840
Yeah, it's been it's been amazing the ground surge of

1180
00:58:09.960 --> 00:58:12.159
support that we have felt. I've been the senior director

1181
00:58:12.199 --> 00:58:15.440
of TPUSA Faith. I oversee all the faith operations within

1182
00:58:15.519 --> 00:58:19.519
the Turning Point ecosystem, and it is it's been incredible

1183
00:58:19.599 --> 00:58:21.239
to see what God has done on the other side

1184
00:58:21.280 --> 00:58:24.079
that's filtered through the lens of grief and and of

1185
00:58:24.159 --> 00:58:26.119
course all of us, you know, within Turning Point and

1186
00:58:26.159 --> 00:58:30.000
everybody that loved Charlie dearly have been so impacted.

1187
00:58:30.119 --> 00:58:31.480
I've said before about.

1188
00:58:31.320 --> 00:58:34.360
Charlie that you know, Charlie dying was almost like a

1189
00:58:34.440 --> 00:58:37.199
million people dying because of the impact that he had.

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And you know the way it affected so many individual families,

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even if they didn't know him, he was part of

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00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:45.519
their family. Everybody owned a little bit of Charlie Kirk

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00:58:46.239 --> 00:58:50.119
and and just he was so he was so charismatic,

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00:58:50.280 --> 00:58:53.119
drew people in. You know how many of us watched

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00:58:53.159 --> 00:58:55.119
him and said, that's what I wanted to say in

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00:58:55.159 --> 00:58:58.239
that conversation. I could have communicated that to my friend

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00:58:58.280 --> 00:59:00.360
and my sister, or my brother or my dad, whatever

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00:59:00.440 --> 00:59:03.039
it was, or my neighbor. And you know, Charlie just

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became part of all of our lives. And I don't

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think that, you know, people fully realized the rich treasure

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00:59:10.079 --> 00:59:13.719
that we had in him until fully until he was gone.

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00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:15.880
And I think we're still recognizing the void that that

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00:59:16.039 --> 00:59:19.159
is created in this world. But God's faithful and he

1204
00:59:19.320 --> 00:59:22.280
is raising up so many that are standing strong. On

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00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:25.079
my email box can prove it. I've got just so

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00:59:25.239 --> 00:59:27.800
many inquiries from people. We're filtering through those as fast

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00:59:27.840 --> 00:59:30.039
as we can. It's been absolutely amazing to see just

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00:59:30.119 --> 00:59:32.199
this revival on the other side of this deep loss.

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Well, Lucas, like any organization, it's about the people, and

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00:59:37.719 --> 00:59:44.079
Charlie Kirk attracted great people such as yourself. I mean, talented,

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00:59:44.320 --> 00:59:50.079
gifted speakers, insightful individuals of all ages. I mean when

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00:59:50.719 --> 00:59:58.239
you hear or see someone from the organization interviewed. It's impressive.

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00:59:59.360 --> 01:00:03.280
Charlie gathered people that I think had similar DNA and

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01:00:03.400 --> 01:00:06.400
makeup to him. We not all the same gifts, I mean, certainly,

1215
01:00:06.440 --> 01:00:08.639
and Charlie was unique. I mean he was a once

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01:00:08.679 --> 01:00:10.760
in a generation mind, as many people have said. I

1217
01:00:10.840 --> 01:00:13.880
agree with that, But there was there was these other

1218
01:00:14.039 --> 01:00:16.679
attributes I think that Charlie looked for. He looked for

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01:00:16.800 --> 01:00:20.639
somebody who understood what I call grace plus hustle. They

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01:00:20.719 --> 01:00:24.159
were grateful, they knew that all of this came from

1221
01:00:24.239 --> 01:00:26.199
the Lord, but they were willing to put in the time,

1222
01:00:26.239 --> 01:00:28.199
and they were willing to work harder than anybody else.

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01:00:28.400 --> 01:00:28.559
You know.

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01:00:28.639 --> 01:00:30.920
All it would take Charlie to say to the staff

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01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:33.320
would be like, hey, guys, let's get this, let's do this,

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01:00:33.599 --> 01:00:34.400
let's dream bigger.

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01:00:34.440 --> 01:00:34.559
You know.

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01:00:34.599 --> 01:00:36.840
He would just have these short phrases at times that

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01:00:36.920 --> 01:00:39.480
he would send you or communicate to a team, and

1230
01:00:39.599 --> 01:00:41.480
it was enough to get everybody go, yes, we can

1231
01:00:41.559 --> 01:00:43.880
do it, and you just instantly believed it because Charlie

1232
01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:48.119
said it. He was so so motivating, He just maximized

1233
01:00:48.400 --> 01:00:51.079
everybody around him, brought the absolute best out of them.

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01:00:51.679 --> 01:00:53.360
I was I'd like to think I was a decent

1235
01:00:53.480 --> 01:00:55.679
leader when I came to tposa faith. Charlie made me

1236
01:00:55.760 --> 01:00:58.239
a better leader in the last eighteen months that I

1237
01:00:58.360 --> 01:01:01.400
was around him, you know, intimately, and and I will

1238
01:01:01.480 --> 01:01:03.159
be forever grateful for that. Was the honor of my

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01:01:03.199 --> 01:01:04.320
life to serve under him.

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01:01:04.519 --> 01:01:04.880
I bet.

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01:01:05.199 --> 01:01:07.400
And you know, you look back in the rearview mirror

1242
01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:10.519
and you see what he did when he started at

1243
01:01:10.559 --> 01:01:13.599
eighteen years of age. I mean, you talk about a

1244
01:01:13.719 --> 01:01:16.920
legacy and a track record. I imagine initially when he

1245
01:01:17.079 --> 01:01:19.000
was saying, Hey, we need a dream, bigger, we can

1246
01:01:19.079 --> 01:01:21.679
do this, and probably some of the people go, yeah, okay,

1247
01:01:21.719 --> 01:01:23.920
that's just Charlie again. But then you get down the

1248
01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:27.239
road and you're going, hey, yes, don't even think twice,

1249
01:01:27.360 --> 01:01:31.480
because you've already proven yourself time and time and time again.

1250
01:01:31.840 --> 01:01:34.400
And that seems to be the consistent message and the

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01:01:34.519 --> 01:01:36.960
evidence of turning point USA.

1252
01:01:37.199 --> 01:01:37.360
Right.

1253
01:01:38.199 --> 01:01:39.840
Yeah, he just had a way of doing what he

1254
01:01:39.840 --> 01:01:41.840
said he was going to do. I think, you know,

1255
01:01:42.320 --> 01:01:46.000
a man of absolute integrity. What he preached, what he proclaimed,

1256
01:01:46.039 --> 01:01:48.800
what he said, he made it happen, you know. And

1257
01:01:49.079 --> 01:01:51.519
I think that's one reason why I think our donors

1258
01:01:51.559 --> 01:01:54.159
have been so supportive of us over the years. Is

1259
01:01:54.239 --> 01:01:56.079
because when Charlie said we're going to do this, they

1260
01:01:56.159 --> 01:01:58.079
knew he was going to do it. We saw that

1261
01:01:58.159 --> 01:02:01.079
with the twenty twenty four election. And you know, the

1262
01:02:01.199 --> 01:02:03.360
amazing thing and I think where I'm very you know,

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01:02:03.480 --> 01:02:05.960
confident still in the future of t POSA and t

1264
01:02:06.039 --> 01:02:09.159
POSA Faith is that Charlie developed a very deep bench

1265
01:02:10.119 --> 01:02:12.800
the organization and you know, not everybody's name is known,

1266
01:02:12.880 --> 01:02:16.119
but you know Turning Point and Turning Point, you know, USA,

1267
01:02:16.280 --> 01:02:19.320
Turnpoint Action, Tpuosa Faith, all the different you know arms

1268
01:02:19.400 --> 01:02:23.159
that Charlie put together. Here there's just great people through

1269
01:02:23.239 --> 01:02:26.159
these companies that are fully committed. The resolve is higher

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01:02:26.239 --> 01:02:29.480
than ever and it's the same machine that was supporting

1271
01:02:29.559 --> 01:02:30.559
Charlie this whole time.

1272
01:02:31.039 --> 01:02:32.519
And so that machine isn't gone.

1273
01:02:33.079 --> 01:02:36.400
You can try to, you know, strike down the general here,

1274
01:02:36.559 --> 01:02:39.199
but I'll tell you what this this this army is

1275
01:02:39.239 --> 01:02:40.719
going to rise up. We're going to keep doing the

1276
01:02:40.760 --> 01:02:43.800
work of God. We understand ideologically there's a major battle

1277
01:02:43.880 --> 01:02:47.199
to fight and committed to seeing it through well.

1278
01:02:47.280 --> 01:02:49.519
And that was the spiritual battle that you and I

1279
01:02:49.599 --> 01:02:51.320
have discussed and we're going to talk about it. And

1280
01:02:51.800 --> 01:02:54.119
it's you know, evident in your new book as well.

1281
01:02:55.480 --> 01:02:58.199
You know, the people are are rising up, and you know,

1282
01:02:58.400 --> 01:03:01.400
I think so many people out there because they didn't

1283
01:03:01.480 --> 01:03:04.639
have the wherewithal. You know, the Bible says, if you

1284
01:03:04.679 --> 01:03:07.159
don't have the foundation for spiritual things, you're not going

1285
01:03:07.239 --> 01:03:10.800
to understand spiritual things. A lot about Charlie was spiritual

1286
01:03:10.880 --> 01:03:14.360
because he knew, yes, we could talk about practical things

1287
01:03:14.440 --> 01:03:19.360
and discussed in the marketplace about you know, about the

1288
01:03:19.440 --> 01:03:22.599
dissatisfaction you may have on the college campuses, but he

1289
01:03:22.719 --> 01:03:27.320
knew at the very root, your restlessness was not going

1290
01:03:27.400 --> 01:03:32.280
to be rested until it rested in the heart of Jesus. Right.

1291
01:03:32.880 --> 01:03:35.280
Yeah, Hey, everything that Charlie did, I think his faith

1292
01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:38.280
was a foundation layer to it. It was undergirded all

1293
01:03:38.320 --> 01:03:41.679
of his political views, all of his social views. He

1294
01:03:41.760 --> 01:03:44.199
could debate them in the public square, and sometimes he

1295
01:03:44.199 --> 01:03:45.960
would say on college campuses, hey, if you don't want

1296
01:03:45.960 --> 01:03:47.599
to talk about Christianity, we can just talk about this

1297
01:03:47.679 --> 01:03:50.199
from logic or reason, and he would do just an

1298
01:03:50.239 --> 01:03:55.039
excellent job navigating that. But he understood that I think

1299
01:03:55.199 --> 01:03:58.119
that his biblical faith is faith in Jesus Christ. Was

1300
01:03:58.239 --> 01:04:01.559
that underlayment for all these other views that he held.

1301
01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:04.320
And it was because of his faith in Jesus Christ

1302
01:04:04.400 --> 01:04:09.599
that he understood, you know, national sovereignty, personal responsibility, sanctity

1303
01:04:09.679 --> 01:04:13.639
of life, that he understood the value of being a

1304
01:04:13.760 --> 01:04:16.559
self learner. You know, all these things were you know,

1305
01:04:16.719 --> 01:04:19.559
really girded in you know, biblical teaching, kind of a

1306
01:04:19.679 --> 01:04:22.599
proverb's you know, coming to life, sort of a reaction.

1307
01:04:23.199 --> 01:04:25.920
And you know, Charlie was so unique, and I'm just

1308
01:04:26.039 --> 01:04:27.920
grateful for him. His legacy is going to live on

1309
01:04:28.039 --> 01:04:29.719
for a very long time, probably one of the most

1310
01:04:29.840 --> 01:04:33.280
videotaped human beings ever to live on the planet, and

1311
01:04:33.400 --> 01:04:36.800
We've got content for decades to come. I'm convinced that

1312
01:04:36.920 --> 01:04:37.840
the world's going to see.

1313
01:04:38.280 --> 01:04:40.559
I'm waiting for the Naval Academy to say, how did

1314
01:04:40.639 --> 01:04:41.679
we let him get away?

1315
01:04:43.039 --> 01:04:43.159
Right?

1316
01:04:43.800 --> 01:04:46.639
I mean, but thank God, you know, in a sense,

1317
01:04:46.719 --> 01:04:50.480
because well, God's in control. So the Naval Academy though

1318
01:04:50.519 --> 01:04:53.320
it was an aspiration for him and a dream that

1319
01:04:53.400 --> 01:04:56.079
he had, God had a better plan for him.

1320
01:04:56.239 --> 01:04:58.239
You know, I'll let somebody else on our team actually

1321
01:04:58.360 --> 01:05:00.800
verify that, but I believe that earlier this year he

1322
01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:04.159
had an opportunity to go to speak to I think

1323
01:05:04.239 --> 01:05:07.039
the board at the Naval Academy. I could have that wrong,

1324
01:05:07.119 --> 01:05:09.440
but I'm pretty certain that's the case. And so God

1325
01:05:09.559 --> 01:05:11.440
ended up bringing that full circle where he was able

1326
01:05:11.480 --> 01:05:13.320
to go there and present some things to them, speak

1327
01:05:13.760 --> 01:05:17.400
out about stamping out wokeism and really the importance of

1328
01:05:17.440 --> 01:05:20.360
high military standards and these things, and so you know,

1329
01:05:21.559 --> 01:05:24.239
it's it's it's awesome to see that, you know. I

1330
01:05:24.480 --> 01:05:26.800
think in many ways his dream did come true where

1331
01:05:26.800 --> 01:05:28.159
he was able to be at the top of that

1332
01:05:28.280 --> 01:05:30.440
and influence people, and and God used him in so

1333
01:05:30.559 --> 01:05:33.639
many just prolific ways, you know, throughout his life well,

1334
01:05:33.679 --> 01:05:33.920
and you.

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01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:36.480
Have to look in terms of his inspiration, as you

1336
01:05:36.639 --> 01:05:40.400
mentioned the impact it had on Pete Hegseth. I'd say

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even Bobby Kennedy Junior. I mean, you know what we're

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you know, and them getting in shape and raising the

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level for each other. I think it's a positive thing.

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And we're back with you nineteen minutes after the top

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of the Bill. Martinez here with Lucasmichael Miles. He's the author.

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He's also with Turning Point Faith and a pastor of

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influence influence church, right, Yeah, and everything continues to go well.

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01:10:59.800 --> 01:11:03.159
So I want to talk about the pagan threat. Why

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01:11:03.600 --> 01:11:04.760
why this book and why now?

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01:11:06.000 --> 01:11:06.199
Yeah?

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01:11:06.199 --> 01:11:08.520
So I've reritten a couple of books on exposing Wochism

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specifically within the Church, the Christian left and then Woke Jesus.

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01:11:11.880 --> 01:11:15.239
And you know, as I was processing through these these books,

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and I'm very thankful that the past books have done

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01:11:17.239 --> 01:11:22.319
quite well, I recognized that that Christianity was a good

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01:11:22.399 --> 01:11:25.319
short term vehicle for Wokeism, but not a good long

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01:11:25.399 --> 01:11:28.000
term host. And what I mean by that is Marxism

1449
01:11:28.119 --> 01:11:30.680
is really a parasite. It is it can't stand on

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01:11:30.760 --> 01:11:33.479
its own. It requires something else to support it and

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01:11:33.600 --> 01:11:36.600
hold it up, whether that's the state or religion or whatever.

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01:11:37.159 --> 01:11:40.640
And and Christianity for a time provided that in the

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01:11:40.760 --> 01:11:47.000
form of progressive Christianity, where you know, Marxism found an

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01:11:47.079 --> 01:11:51.159
infiltration into the four walls of the Church to convince

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01:11:51.319 --> 01:11:52.439
you know, the world. I think it was through the

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01:11:52.479 --> 01:11:55.399
trojan horse of social justice that it came in and

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01:11:55.800 --> 01:11:58.319
and it it it for a time was very convincing.

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01:11:58.479 --> 01:12:01.600
But eventually, if you call yourself a progressive Christian, you're

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either going to push more into the critical theory Marxist

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01:12:04.199 --> 01:12:08.279
framework and recognize that, you know, eventually deconstruct from your

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01:12:08.319 --> 01:12:11.399
faith that that Marxism is antithetical to the Gospel. Or

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if you push into your the Christian side of that

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01:12:13.399 --> 01:12:16.800
progressive Christianity enough and you actually start reading the Bible,

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01:12:17.279 --> 01:12:20.239
you'll recognize that all the principles of marx are are

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01:12:20.359 --> 01:12:23.000
you know, really anti God, I mean they're there, they

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01:12:23.039 --> 01:12:26.840
don't they can't coexist with a biblical worldview, and so

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you'll eventually leave that progressive form you know, formation away.

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01:12:31.359 --> 01:12:36.159
But Paganism isn't like that, because of the a less

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01:12:36.279 --> 01:12:40.760
rigid moral structure, really completely fluid moral structure. It allows

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for the various views of Marxism UH to take root

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01:12:45.159 --> 01:12:48.640
without any sort of internal conflicts. And so the goal

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what we're seeing, the reason why there's a resurgence of

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01:12:51.520 --> 01:12:54.640
paganism today is because it's really bought and paid for

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01:12:55.319 --> 01:12:59.279
by the left that is trying to supplant Christianity as

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01:12:59.319 --> 01:13:03.439
being the predominant Christian worldview and to introduce this pagan

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01:13:03.920 --> 01:13:07.720
you know, ideology and platform so that it can win

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01:13:07.800 --> 01:13:11.239
over the younger generation and get these Marxist ideas to

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01:13:11.319 --> 01:13:15.520
be more easily accepted. Now that the spiritual climate has

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01:13:15.720 --> 01:13:18.159
changed and there's no longer the obstacle of the cross,

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01:13:18.560 --> 01:13:19.640
you know, standing against it.

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01:13:20.520 --> 01:13:24.119
Right, nothing new under the sun. And you said something

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01:13:24.439 --> 01:13:26.439
that's really important, and I hope our audience caught that,

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01:13:26.960 --> 01:13:29.439
and that is that if you're not in the word,

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01:13:30.079 --> 01:13:33.199
you're really not studying the legitimate. It's I've used this

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01:13:33.359 --> 01:13:37.039
example many times. It's like a bank teller when they

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01:13:37.159 --> 01:13:40.960
teach them how to deal with counterfeit money, what they

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01:13:41.039 --> 01:13:44.359
have them study is the legitimate. They study the legitimate

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01:13:44.479 --> 01:13:47.800
so closely that they can see the counterfeit like that,

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01:13:48.520 --> 01:13:52.119
And I would dare say in today's Christianity, because we

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01:13:52.279 --> 01:13:55.399
have not been as invested in the Word as we

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01:13:55.479 --> 01:13:59.239
should be. I say on a daily and a continual basis,

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01:13:59.680 --> 01:14:02.960
because you got to imagine if Jesus says, you know,

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01:14:03.079 --> 01:14:05.840
I don't live on bread alone, but by every word

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01:14:05.880 --> 01:14:08.239
that comes out of the mouth of God, that's pretty significant.

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01:14:08.279 --> 01:14:11.319
I would think, Yeah, you're absolutely right. I mean, look,

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01:14:11.439 --> 01:14:14.439
as Christians, we have to come back to establishing our faith.

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01:14:14.479 --> 01:14:15.760
In fact, at the end of the book, I give

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01:14:15.840 --> 01:14:18.640
a seven step road map on how do we start

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turning the tide. I mean, how many young people have

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01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:23.079
been influenced by this, how many parents and grandparents have

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01:14:23.159 --> 01:14:25.119
come to you know, us and said, hey, what can

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01:14:25.199 --> 01:14:27.720
I do to reach my child and my grandchild? You know,

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01:14:27.920 --> 01:14:30.199
how many people are concerned about nieces and nephews and

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01:14:30.279 --> 01:14:33.239
these things they've seen impacted by gender ideology, by leftism,

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01:14:33.319 --> 01:14:36.640
by Marxism, by Antifa. You know, we've seen several very

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01:14:37.880 --> 01:14:40.920
prominent examples. In the last few weeks. We had two

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01:14:41.319 --> 01:14:44.720
sniper attacks young men that were you know, indoctrinated on

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01:14:44.760 --> 01:14:47.439
the internet, you know, to do such terrible things. And

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01:14:47.560 --> 01:14:50.600
I think that everybody's recognizing there's a crisis that's happening here.

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01:14:50.880 --> 01:14:53.439
And this younger generation is harder to reach in many

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01:14:53.479 --> 01:14:57.159
ways because they're less accessible than previous generations were. They

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01:14:57.279 --> 01:15:00.199
are more prone to be isolated. They grew up kind

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01:15:00.199 --> 01:15:03.640
of in isolation through COVID, They were sort of trained

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01:15:03.680 --> 01:15:06.079
in that, so they have less of a desire or

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01:15:06.119 --> 01:15:08.199
even a skill set to go meet friends and make

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01:15:08.239 --> 01:15:10.960
friends and find people. There's a lot of trauma in

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01:15:11.000 --> 01:15:13.239
their life, starting with everything from September eleven to the

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01:15:13.359 --> 01:15:16.319
rise in school shootings to you know, you know, wars

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01:15:16.359 --> 01:15:20.319
and rumors of wars, you know, totalitarian you know policies

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01:15:20.399 --> 01:15:24.279
during COVID, now things like the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

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01:15:24.399 --> 01:15:26.000
This is a generation in trauma and we have to

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01:15:26.079 --> 01:15:27.800
reach them. But we have to reach them with something

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01:15:27.840 --> 01:15:29.720
in particular. We have to reach them with the Gospel,

1524
01:15:29.760 --> 01:15:33.199
and so we have to start with that, that that primary,

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01:15:33.479 --> 01:15:36.399
you know, belief in Christ. We need a research into evangelism,

1526
01:15:36.479 --> 01:15:38.800
We need to use tools of technology in order to

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01:15:38.840 --> 01:15:41.039
get the Gospel out there. But I provide a plan

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01:15:41.159 --> 01:15:42.880
at the end of the book, and I encourage every

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01:15:42.880 --> 01:15:45.520
single faith leader, a parent, grandparent, to get a copy.

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01:15:45.960 --> 01:15:48.600
Well you know, you wrought up something that's key here,

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01:15:48.640 --> 01:15:51.279
and that is the young people. And what I see, Lucas,

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01:15:51.479 --> 01:15:55.279
is that they're looking for consistency, you know, right now

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01:15:55.359 --> 01:16:00.199
in a culture where brands have been compromised, whether we're

1534
01:16:00.199 --> 01:16:03.880
talking bud Light, Disneyland, you know recently with Cracker Barrel.

1535
01:16:05.119 --> 01:16:07.399
You know, if all of a sudden McDonald says, hey,

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01:16:07.439 --> 01:16:11.199
we're not doing Hamburgers anymore, there'd be insanity, you know,

1537
01:16:11.239 --> 01:16:14.079
because it's a violation of their brand and their image

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01:16:14.159 --> 01:16:18.159
of who they are. Christianity has a brand and image.

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01:16:18.760 --> 01:16:21.720
What's happened is some of these, as you say, you know,

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01:16:21.800 --> 01:16:26.399
progressive pastors and cultural progressives who thought, oh, well, you know,

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01:16:26.560 --> 01:16:28.680
this is what's going on, and we need to make

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01:16:28.760 --> 01:16:31.720
a shift. But they didn't even realize as they were drifting,

1543
01:16:31.760 --> 01:16:33.880
and you and I talked about this years ago, as

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01:16:33.960 --> 01:16:37.199
they drift away from the solidarity and the consistency of

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01:16:37.239 --> 01:16:42.039
the gospel, they started to compromise their brand. And the

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01:16:42.119 --> 01:16:46.279
cautionary tale here is look at hit the pause button, reevaluate,

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01:16:46.800 --> 01:16:52.119
reconnect with that brand, that identification, which is christ Church.

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01:16:52.239 --> 01:16:55.640
It's not your church, it's Jesus' church, right, And this

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01:16:55.840 --> 01:16:57.800
is what these kids are coming back to, and they're

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01:16:57.800 --> 01:17:01.319
looking and say, okay, are you are you legit? Are

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01:17:01.399 --> 01:17:04.479
you a counterfeit? And they can smell a counterfeit from

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01:17:04.560 --> 01:17:05.560
miles away, can't they?

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01:17:05.960 --> 01:17:07.600
Yeah, absolutely, you're absolutely right. I think that.

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01:17:07.680 --> 01:17:09.079
You know, one of the things that made Charlie so

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01:17:09.159 --> 01:17:12.399
successful was his willingness to engage in real conversation.

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01:17:12.600 --> 01:17:13.319
He would sit down.

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01:17:13.640 --> 01:17:15.359
You know, people would call him a fascist, but yet

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01:17:15.359 --> 01:17:17.880
how many fascists do you know that give their opponent

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01:17:17.960 --> 01:17:20.800
a microphone, you know, to be able to talk about

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01:17:20.840 --> 01:17:22.960
these things. If he was a fascist, he wasn't a

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01:17:23.039 --> 01:17:26.399
very good one. Uh And and so it's uh, you know,

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01:17:26.479 --> 01:17:29.479
it's very unique to this generation. They love the dialogue.

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01:17:29.560 --> 01:17:32.439
They love, you know, getting on TikTok live and having debates.

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01:17:32.479 --> 01:17:34.079
You know, when I was a kid, I was I

1565
01:17:34.159 --> 01:17:36.680
went to uh I was in a speech and debate club,

1566
01:17:36.800 --> 01:17:38.880
and I never wanted to tell anybody, you know, it

1567
01:17:38.960 --> 01:17:41.239
was kind of dorky and nerdy. You know, my friends

1568
01:17:41.319 --> 01:17:43.880
found out, you know, it might be a problem. But now,

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01:17:44.439 --> 01:17:46.720
I mean it's it's it's like the you know, it's

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01:17:46.760 --> 01:17:50.000
like the Greek the amphitheater again here, you know, people

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01:17:50.079 --> 01:17:52.960
there say, there is great pride in going out and

1572
01:17:53.000 --> 01:17:56.000
saying let's have these conversations. Let's give the opposing side

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01:17:56.039 --> 01:17:58.000
a chance, and let's have a rebuttal, and let's be

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01:17:58.039 --> 01:18:00.359
able to engage. And I think this younger generation loves

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01:18:00.439 --> 01:18:02.800
that we have started doing in our churches and also

1576
01:18:02.880 --> 01:18:06.159
with TPUSA faith, just sit down conversations where we dialogue

1577
01:18:06.239 --> 01:18:08.239
with a thought leader and just get stuff out on

1578
01:18:08.279 --> 01:18:10.800
the table, and then to be able to take questions

1579
01:18:10.800 --> 01:18:13.079
from the audience when we're done. Most churches would never

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01:18:13.359 --> 01:18:16.000
dream of giving a chance for their audience to ask questions,

1581
01:18:16.199 --> 01:18:18.039
but then we will sh why they're not discipled. And

1582
01:18:18.159 --> 01:18:21.000
so Jesus asked questions and he gave time for people

1583
01:18:21.079 --> 01:18:23.359
to ask him questions. And I think that's a secret

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01:18:23.399 --> 01:18:24.800
to reaching this generation right now.

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01:18:25.359 --> 01:18:27.520
And I think this will help us return to civility

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01:18:27.800 --> 01:18:30.239
where we can have a conversation, sit down, and as

1587
01:18:30.279 --> 01:18:34.359
the Bible says, reason together. Yeah okay, And that's what

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01:18:34.520 --> 01:18:37.239
I think our culture is aching for, is that kind

1589
01:18:37.279 --> 01:18:38.840
of connection. Lucas, what do you think?

1590
01:18:39.439 --> 01:18:41.000
I think you're absolutely right, and I think that you know,

1591
01:18:41.239 --> 01:18:43.119
there's a lot of ego and pride that gets attached

1592
01:18:43.119 --> 01:18:45.479
to these things. But I think that for those of

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01:18:45.600 --> 01:18:49.239
us that are you know, committed to taking the Gospel forward,

1594
01:18:49.600 --> 01:18:51.279
we have to really check that ego at the door.

1595
01:18:51.479 --> 01:18:53.680
And we're here to be a spokesperson for God. We're

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01:18:53.680 --> 01:18:55.359
here to preach the full counsel of the Word of God.

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01:18:55.640 --> 01:18:58.720
So many pastors have just you know fallen, you know,

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01:18:58.840 --> 01:19:01.319
from this. Charlie and I talked about this a lot.

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01:19:01.399 --> 01:19:03.239
One of the things I introduced to him was the

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idea that there's three types of pastors. That there's true pastors,

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01:19:06.560 --> 01:19:09.239
and there's traitorous pastors, and there's this middle category of

1602
01:19:09.319 --> 01:19:11.920
trembling pastors. And I think that that's what we've seen

1603
01:19:12.000 --> 01:19:14.000
so much of, is we have these pastors that they're

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01:19:14.039 --> 01:19:15.960
like giddy and hiding in the wine press, hoping the

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01:19:16.000 --> 01:19:17.760
battle is going to go on, you know, without them,

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01:19:18.359 --> 01:19:20.279
you know, as they just you know, kind of stay

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01:19:20.359 --> 01:19:23.039
under cover. But I think that Charlie Kirk was somebody

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01:19:23.079 --> 01:19:26.000
who came to us and said, arise you, mighty, valiant warriors,

1609
01:19:26.039 --> 01:19:27.880
and he and he called the church back to action.

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01:19:28.680 --> 01:19:30.600
Now in his passing, I think that it's our job

1611
01:19:30.680 --> 01:19:32.680
to remind one another of that. I think it's you know,

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01:19:32.720 --> 01:19:35.720
I feel, you know, burden to be somebody who continues

1613
01:19:35.760 --> 01:19:37.399
to remind the church it's time to get in the fight.

1614
01:19:37.680 --> 01:19:39.520
It's time to stand up, it's trying. It's time to

1615
01:19:39.560 --> 01:19:41.760
be strong in your faith. It's time to be bolder

1616
01:19:41.840 --> 01:19:44.840
than ever. And and you know, because there's a world

1617
01:19:45.520 --> 01:19:46.399
in a country to save.

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01:19:46.479 --> 01:19:49.119
Here exactly the truth matters, doesn't it.

1619
01:19:49.319 --> 01:19:52.960
Yes, one hundred percent. Without Without you know, truth, what

1620
01:19:53.039 --> 01:19:56.159
do we have? You know, just it's fabrication, it's our own.

1621
01:19:56.880 --> 01:19:59.640
My truth doesn't mean anything. My truth isn't worth anything.

1622
01:19:59.640 --> 01:20:01.239
I don't have it all figured out. There's only one

1623
01:20:01.239 --> 01:20:03.119
who does. And I just want to keep pointing people

1624
01:20:03.159 --> 01:20:03.439
to him.

1625
01:20:03.920 --> 01:20:08.960
Amen. About thirty seconds left here. Pagan Threat Book available

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now in all the usual places, right, Yeah, you're go ahead.

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01:20:13.039 --> 01:20:15.520
And I was just going to say, to summarize, to

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01:20:15.640 --> 01:20:18.560
summarize it, what would you want people to gain from this?

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01:20:19.199 --> 01:20:19.399
Yeah?

1630
01:20:19.399 --> 01:20:22.000
Absolutely, This is to equip them to be able to

1631
01:20:22.079 --> 01:20:23.760
reach this generation and be able to stand up in

1632
01:20:23.800 --> 01:20:24.520
the times that we're in.

1633
01:20:24.880 --> 01:20:25.800
The world is shifted.

1634
01:20:25.880 --> 01:20:28.279
We saw that twenty you know, twenty eight days ago

1635
01:20:28.359 --> 01:20:31.159
or so when Charlie was killed. And it is time

1636
01:20:31.239 --> 01:20:33.680
that ever people understand what's happening and what they can

1637
01:20:33.760 --> 01:20:34.159
do about it.

1638
01:20:34.880 --> 01:20:37.359
Well, Lucas Miles, my good friend, thank you so much

1639
01:20:37.399 --> 01:20:39.640
for being with us. I so appreciate you. God bless you,

1640
01:20:40.239 --> 01:20:43.640
Lucas a pastor and author, and of course with the

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01:20:44.039 --> 01:20:47.560
Turning Point faith. You know, we just look forward to

1642
01:20:47.920 --> 01:20:51.359
hearing some you know, more exciting things coming from Turning Point.

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Hey, good morning, America. I'm good to have you with us.

1717
01:25:04.960 --> 01:25:09.479
Bill Martinez here along with Jordan Goodman, America's Money Answers Man. Hey, Jordan,

1718
01:25:09.520 --> 01:25:10.199
how are we doing, buddy.

1719
01:25:10.680 --> 01:25:12.720
Great to be with you. Great to wrap up the year.

1720
01:25:12.720 --> 01:25:13.920
It's been quite a year, Bill.

1721
01:25:13.920 --> 01:25:15.640
Yeah, it really has been. I mean, can you believe

1722
01:25:15.680 --> 01:25:18.479
how fast it's gone. I mean, and maybe it's been

1723
01:25:18.560 --> 01:25:21.880
exacerbated because you know, Trump has just brought out a

1724
01:25:22.000 --> 01:25:25.199
fire hose as soon as he came into the Oval office.

1725
01:25:25.560 --> 01:25:28.159
And it's just been NonStop, has it not?

1726
01:25:28.840 --> 01:25:31.359
It has in many, many different ways. So let's talk

1727
01:25:31.359 --> 01:25:33.279
about some of the winners of this year.

1728
01:25:33.720 --> 01:25:33.880
Yah.

1729
01:25:34.399 --> 01:25:38.199
Clearly, the whole artificial intelligence boom has been a big winner.

1730
01:25:38.239 --> 01:25:42.920
All the stocks related to that and Vidia, Microsoft, Google, Facebook,

1731
01:25:43.000 --> 01:25:46.560
you name it, they're all push pouring billions, hundreds of

1732
01:25:46.600 --> 01:25:50.079
billions into artificial intelligence. The estimates are going to be

1733
01:25:50.199 --> 01:25:53.039
something like four hundred billion dollars is going to be

1734
01:25:53.079 --> 01:25:56.680
invested in artificial intelligence this year and even more in

1735
01:25:56.840 --> 01:26:00.560
twenty twenty six. Just staggering kinds of numbers. And so

1736
01:26:00.720 --> 01:26:03.800
all these AI service centers are being built all of

1737
01:26:03.880 --> 01:26:06.359
the country. It's caused a real boom out there, and

1738
01:26:06.399 --> 01:26:08.680
the stocks led into that have done well, not only

1739
01:26:08.800 --> 01:26:13.039
directly but indirectly. For example, energy utilities having to build

1740
01:26:13.119 --> 01:26:15.800
new plants and provide new power and update the grid

1741
01:26:16.279 --> 01:26:18.800
because there's just not enough power to power all these

1742
01:26:18.880 --> 01:26:22.199
data serviiciders. So that's been clearly one of the winners.

1743
01:26:22.239 --> 01:26:23.920
I think it's going to continue next year as well.

1744
01:26:24.560 --> 01:26:29.159
Yeah, I agree. And speaking of energy, the energy sector

1745
01:26:29.760 --> 01:26:34.439
is hot, right, we might say, well it is.

1746
01:26:34.600 --> 01:26:36.000
And one of the other things this year is that

1747
01:26:36.119 --> 01:26:40.119
oil prices fell quite sharply. We started the year at

1748
01:26:40.119 --> 01:26:44.359
about seventy five something like that. Now it's about fifty nine,

1749
01:26:44.479 --> 01:26:45.359
it's under sixty.

1750
01:26:46.039 --> 01:26:46.199
Yeah.

1751
01:26:46.239 --> 01:26:49.920
I paid the other day. I paid two dollars and

1752
01:26:50.239 --> 01:26:52.439
fifty nine cents a gallon here in Florida.

1753
01:26:52.840 --> 01:26:56.159
That's been a big winner, really, That's helped the economy

1754
01:26:56.159 --> 01:26:56.840
in various ways.

1755
01:26:57.159 --> 01:26:58.880
And we'll see what happens in Venezuela.

1756
01:26:58.960 --> 01:27:02.119
But if we take over Venezuela pretty soon and get

1757
01:27:02.199 --> 01:27:05.600
oil pumping from there instead of the decrepit nature of them,

1758
01:27:05.680 --> 01:27:09.720
that could add even more supply and push prices down

1759
01:27:09.760 --> 01:27:11.840
even further. So that's been a big winner this year

1760
01:27:11.840 --> 01:27:12.159
as well.

1761
01:27:13.479 --> 01:27:15.920
Could you imagine the prospect I mean you mentioned Venezuela,

1762
01:27:16.039 --> 01:27:19.920
the prospect of what a vibrant Venezuela could mean to

1763
01:27:20.079 --> 01:27:21.239
South America.

1764
01:27:21.359 --> 01:27:26.079
Right, instead of the complete kryptocracy they've got there, and

1765
01:27:26.279 --> 01:27:28.520
you know, it had been one of the most prosperous.

1766
01:27:28.039 --> 01:27:28.960
Countries in the world.

1767
01:27:29.399 --> 01:27:33.319
They yet huge oil supplies and purely because of politics

1768
01:27:33.439 --> 01:27:36.399
and the communism of Shaves and now Maduro, which is

1769
01:27:36.520 --> 01:27:39.439
ruined the place. It's got tremendous potential to come back,

1770
01:27:39.520 --> 01:27:42.479
and let's hope that happens relatively quickly. I hope we

1771
01:27:42.560 --> 01:27:45.319
don't have a long drawn out war, have another Vietnam

1772
01:27:45.640 --> 01:27:46.319
in Venezuela.

1773
01:27:46.359 --> 01:27:48.600
Oh my gosh. Yeah, that'd be crazy. No, I agree,

1774
01:27:49.199 --> 01:27:49.840
So that's okay.

1775
01:27:49.920 --> 01:27:51.640
The next area is clearly bitcoin.

1776
01:27:52.439 --> 01:27:55.520
Bitcoin started the year about fifty thousand, It got as

1777
01:27:55.600 --> 01:27:57.479
high as about one hundred and twenty five thousand, and

1778
01:27:57.600 --> 01:28:00.520
it's about ninety thousand or so. But clearly a lot

1779
01:28:00.520 --> 01:28:03.600
of people are moving money out of traditional assets into bitcoin,

1780
01:28:04.159 --> 01:28:05.560
and I think that's going to continue to be a

1781
01:28:05.640 --> 01:28:08.520
winner next year. It's violenctile day to day the long term,

1782
01:28:08.600 --> 01:28:11.439
I think, clearly, and President Trump has been kind of

1783
01:28:11.560 --> 01:28:14.560
all in on bitcoin and making it easier and making

1784
01:28:14.680 --> 01:28:17.239
us a major player brick cod because if we didn't

1785
01:28:17.239 --> 01:28:18.239
do that, we'd be left behind.

1786
01:28:18.279 --> 01:28:19.520
The rest of the world is moving.

1787
01:28:19.359 --> 01:28:21.680
Oh, no doubt, no doubt. And the other thing too

1788
01:28:21.880 --> 01:28:25.000
is crypto wallet's right, and which is all part it's

1789
01:28:25.039 --> 01:28:28.760
a derivative, but it's all you know, it's all part

1790
01:28:28.800 --> 01:28:34.640
of the infrastructure of this you know, data currency.

1791
01:28:35.199 --> 01:28:37.720
And so it's going to get bigger and bigger. Not

1792
01:28:37.920 --> 01:28:40.079
clear whether you want explosure to that. Another big winner

1793
01:28:40.119 --> 01:28:43.680
this year has been gold and silver. Gold is over

1794
01:28:43.840 --> 01:28:47.920
forty two hundred announce, silver about fifty dollars an ounce.

1795
01:28:48.479 --> 01:28:52.439
They've had major moves to some extent, all these countries

1796
01:28:52.560 --> 01:28:54.079
around the world are trying to get out of the

1797
01:28:54.199 --> 01:28:57.079
dollar and putting money into gold and silver to some

1798
01:28:57.199 --> 01:28:59.960
extent as well. You've got the so called bricks country

1799
01:29:00.119 --> 01:29:03.600
is Brazil, Russia, India, China. That's now been added to

1800
01:29:03.760 --> 01:29:08.680
twenty six countries in total, Saudi Arabia, u AE, Brazil,

1801
01:29:08.760 --> 01:29:12.119
all kinds by the places that are trying to dedollarize

1802
01:29:12.159 --> 01:29:15.800
and pay for fuel in this new bricks currency. So

1803
01:29:16.239 --> 01:29:20.880
that's backed by gold. So that's gold and silver have

1804
01:29:20.960 --> 01:29:22.840
had a huge move this year and I think that's

1805
01:29:22.840 --> 01:29:25.560
going to continue into next year as the kind of

1806
01:29:25.640 --> 01:29:27.600
de dollarisation process continues.

1807
01:29:28.279 --> 01:29:29.760
Well, what's going to happen? I mean, you know, we

1808
01:29:29.880 --> 01:29:33.600
touched a little bit on fuel and the cost of oil,

1809
01:29:33.760 --> 01:29:36.039
you know, down to about fifty nine a barrel and

1810
01:29:36.359 --> 01:29:39.720
still looking at being lower. Yet what is that going

1811
01:29:39.800 --> 01:29:42.520
to do in relationship to the attack on the dollar,

1812
01:29:42.680 --> 01:29:46.359
because America is I mean, we we're you know, producing

1813
01:29:46.439 --> 01:29:48.640
oil like almost like never before.

1814
01:29:48.520 --> 01:29:51.880
Right right, we are the word world's largest producer. But

1815
01:29:52.079 --> 01:29:55.000
if oil goes much lower, it doesn't make a lot

1816
01:29:55.039 --> 01:29:58.800
of sense for American drillers to drill. Our cost production

1817
01:29:59.000 --> 01:30:02.159
is maybe fifty or something like that. Saudi Arabia's cost

1818
01:30:02.199 --> 01:30:04.319
of production is four dollars in barrel, you know, so

1819
01:30:05.039 --> 01:30:07.640
they can still make money at lower arm prices where

1820
01:30:07.680 --> 01:30:12.239
we can't. So, but overall, lower own prices are good

1821
01:30:12.279 --> 01:30:15.760
for consumers. Get puts more money in people's pockets. It's

1822
01:30:15.800 --> 01:30:18.720
good for transportation. So that's been one of the big

1823
01:30:18.760 --> 01:30:19.479
winners this year.

1824
01:30:19.880 --> 01:30:20.439
So we'll see.

1825
01:30:20.479 --> 01:30:23.640
I mean, if Venezuela could get back online fully, that

1826
01:30:23.680 --> 01:30:27.159
would add a lot of oil the market, So that

1827
01:30:27.279 --> 01:30:28.079
could be positive.

1828
01:30:28.560 --> 01:30:32.720
So that's you know a measure plus plus. Trump is

1829
01:30:32.800 --> 01:30:37.479
real tight with the president in exile who just got the.

1830
01:30:39.279 --> 01:30:39.399
Right.

1831
01:30:40.239 --> 01:30:41.920
Yeah, she would be the likely one to take over,

1832
01:30:41.960 --> 01:30:44.239
and she'd be very friendly to us. Be a very difference,

1833
01:30:44.560 --> 01:30:46.079
and I think you're right. I think this could have

1834
01:30:46.159 --> 01:30:50.239
a big influence throughout South America. There's some good people

1835
01:30:50.279 --> 01:30:53.800
in South America like the guy running Argentina. And there's

1836
01:30:53.800 --> 01:30:58.239
some bad people in South right, were in Columbia, you know,

1837
01:30:58.359 --> 01:31:02.000
we're drug runners and Brazil Lulu or some crazy people there.

1838
01:31:02.079 --> 01:31:05.079
So if we get a nice, stable government that's kind

1839
01:31:05.119 --> 01:31:08.600
of pro American in Venezuela, that would be very very positive, well.

1840
01:31:08.520 --> 01:31:10.439
In pro law and order, because then what will happen

1841
01:31:10.560 --> 01:31:12.960
is they'll start cleaning up their own backyard, right, because

1842
01:31:13.000 --> 01:31:15.479
you can't have you can't have, as she says, these

1843
01:31:15.560 --> 01:31:18.159
bad own brais. I think that's Maria Salazar that says

1844
01:31:18.199 --> 01:31:20.640
that you can't have these bad own breys running around right.

1845
01:31:21.359 --> 01:31:24.520
There's a lot of them yea, and throughout Central South

1846
01:31:24.560 --> 01:31:27.159
America as well. So that's that's a potential winner next year.

1847
01:31:27.600 --> 01:31:31.159
The other big theme of this year was tariffs. Now

1848
01:31:31.279 --> 01:31:34.760
in April, President Trump came out with so called Liberation

1849
01:31:34.960 --> 01:31:37.600
Day put all these enormous tasks. A lot of them

1850
01:31:37.760 --> 01:31:40.960
have come down since then, but it forced a lot

1851
01:31:41.039 --> 01:31:44.039
of countries into trade deals that we wouldn't have done otherwise.

1852
01:31:44.159 --> 01:31:48.840
United Kingdom, Japan, Korea, Australia, even China and so on.

1853
01:31:49.399 --> 01:31:51.319
So that's been a big win for us.

1854
01:31:51.920 --> 01:31:54.479
The towers have taken a toll, though it's hurt a

1855
01:31:54.479 --> 01:31:57.159
lot of small businesses in the US because they can't

1856
01:31:57.600 --> 01:31:59.399
pass on the costos tariffs.

1857
01:31:59.079 --> 01:32:01.119
To there in many cases.

1858
01:32:01.640 --> 01:32:04.960
So there's a big cloud hanging over the whole tariff situation,

1859
01:32:05.159 --> 01:32:08.319
which is the Supreme Court's going to decide relatively soon

1860
01:32:08.960 --> 01:32:12.279
whether these tariffs are legal or not. Cosm Trump is

1861
01:32:12.319 --> 01:32:14.920
saying the reason he is illegal is nineteen seventy seven

1862
01:32:15.039 --> 01:32:18.239
emergency law, which said that the president has power to

1863
01:32:18.640 --> 01:32:22.960
impose sanctions never went and mentioned the word taffs during

1864
01:32:23.000 --> 01:32:25.359
an economic emergency, and he used that power to do this.

1865
01:32:26.479 --> 01:32:28.199
We'll see what happens, but I think it's likely that

1866
01:32:28.199 --> 01:32:30.159
the Supreme Court is going to say, no, it's not

1867
01:32:30.359 --> 01:32:33.960
legal to do this, that you need Congress to approve

1868
01:32:34.039 --> 01:32:36.680
these kind of things. If that happens, there could be

1869
01:32:36.680 --> 01:32:38.720
a lot of chaos because this has been the major

1870
01:32:38.840 --> 01:32:42.359
economic tool that the President Trump is used to get

1871
01:32:42.399 --> 01:32:44.800
his will in many different ways, and that could be

1872
01:32:44.920 --> 01:32:46.199
undercut by the Supreme Court.

1873
01:32:46.760 --> 01:32:49.079
Well, of course, if it goes to Congress, the Democrats

1874
01:32:49.119 --> 01:32:52.039
are just going to have a heyday, you know, because

1875
01:32:52.079 --> 01:32:55.079
there anything that would bruise up Trump and undermine his

1876
01:32:55.199 --> 01:32:58.119
agenda and there's no doubt. I mean you look at,

1877
01:32:59.199 --> 01:33:02.119
you know, the net benefit of what tariffs has done

1878
01:33:02.199 --> 01:33:07.000
in terms of bringing you know, labor, bringing projects, investment

1879
01:33:07.119 --> 01:33:10.560
back to America, this sort of thing. I think the

1880
01:33:10.760 --> 01:33:14.760
net gain is just humongous, and I think that it

1881
01:33:14.800 --> 01:33:18.159
would be a severe decision by the Supreme Court. And

1882
01:33:18.319 --> 01:33:22.079
maybe they're balancing that. I know that Justice Roberts balanced

1883
01:33:22.159 --> 01:33:25.600
that when we were dealing with Obamacare, as you'll recruit, right,

1884
01:33:26.319 --> 01:33:28.800
and so Justice Roberts, I didn't see him coming on

1885
01:33:28.920 --> 01:33:30.920
the other side of the bench saying, no, you don't

1886
01:33:30.920 --> 01:33:32.000
want to call it a tariff.

1887
01:33:32.079 --> 01:33:34.479
You know, we'll see.

1888
01:33:34.880 --> 01:33:38.680
I mean, when they have the hearing, the justices were

1889
01:33:38.760 --> 01:33:41.399
kind of saying, are you sure this is legal? And

1890
01:33:41.800 --> 01:33:44.640
it's also a balance of power separation of powers issue

1891
01:33:44.720 --> 01:33:49.359
because in the Constitution it's explicitly says Congress has the

1892
01:33:49.439 --> 01:33:52.439
right to regulate commerce and tufts. And this is something

1893
01:33:52.479 --> 01:33:54.560
that President and President pump Trump says, he likes you,

1894
01:33:55.039 --> 01:33:57.359
he lowers his tops, you don't like your regular tasks

1895
01:33:58.079 --> 01:34:01.560
on his whim. Normally, these are done through trade agreements

1896
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that are ratified by Congress, so that's kind of legal.

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So well, on purely legal grounds. I think they're going

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to vote it's not legal. But if that were to happened,

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can you imagine the disruption everybody.

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Oh my gosh, yeah, exactly, all this is.

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Going to want to refund and all those and all.

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Those wars he stopped. You know, though, they're back to

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fighting again, right, I mean, there's lots, there's lots hanging

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in the balance here. I mean it's almost you know,

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a domically sort of short you know, that's hanging over

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this decision, right it is.

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It's I think one of the biggest decisions we're going

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to see in a long time. So if it if

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it goes against the President and they say these are

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not being legal tariffs, maybe he's going to try to

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do it some other way, but it really should go

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through Congress. Would be very difficult to get done. And

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then it also blows a hole in the budget. All

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the dolls coming in through tariffs all of a sudden disappear.

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Right exactly. Well, I'll tell you what. We got to

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leave it there, Jordan Goodman, how can they be in

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touch with you?

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They can always email me Jordan at Money Answers dot com.

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And it's been a pleasure being with you all year bill,

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Hey, we're back with you. Bill Martinez here along with

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Now are you?

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I'm great?

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Bill?

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How are you doing this morning?

2006
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Hey, I'm gooding terrific. I guess this is going to

2007
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be our last meeting until next year.

2008
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Huh, that's what you tell me, so I can only

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go on on what your your word is.

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Well, we're going to take a little break here and

2011
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enjoy the holiday with our friends and family. Definitely been

2012
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a real special season. You know, we're in the third

2013
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week of Advent. This is a time for joy because

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you know, here we've gone through hope, you know, which

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was the first week. And I tell people all the time,

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you know, what makes hope so significant is what it's

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anchored in. Right. If your hope, for example, if your

2018
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hope is anchored in the government, I think it got

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deflated after forty three days when the government decided to

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shut down.

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Right, well, I think that's right, and I mean I

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think what we place our hope in is one of

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the core questions that, even if we don't think about

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it a lot consciously, it's the question that drives us

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right right, because our hope really is our foundation. That

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shapes our values. It shapes how we perceive the world,

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It shapes how we perceive other people, It shapes everything.

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It shapes how we respond to adversity. And everybody eventually

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is going to have some adversity, right, You're gonna have

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something that tests that that foundation. And so our hope

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01:41:12.319 --> 01:41:17.560
obviously is anchored in Christ. He's the solid rock. We

2032
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recently purchased a new house, well new to us, and

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it's kind of up on a little bit of a hill,

2034
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and it's the back of the hill is pretty much

2035
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solid granite. I mean it's like it's literally I feel

2036
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like our house is a Bible illustration because it's built

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on the rock. And you know, I suppose we could

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have an earthquake and it could be in trouble.

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But.

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But that's, you know, it illustrates the point, you know,

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01:41:46.279 --> 01:41:48.159
what are we building on? What's our foundation?

2042
01:41:48.760 --> 01:41:53.479
Yeah? Exactly. So that was week one. Week two was peace, Yes,

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01:41:53.640 --> 01:41:56.479
that that hope would give us peace. And here I mean, boy,

2044
01:41:56.560 --> 01:41:57.239
do we need peace?

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01:41:57.319 --> 01:42:01.279
Huh boy, do we need peace? I mean again, our

2046
01:42:01.439 --> 01:42:08.239
world strives for it, and yet without without a reconciler,

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01:42:08.680 --> 01:42:12.800
right because peace peace sort of assumes that there's conflict

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and what do we do again, what do we do

2049
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with conflict? And I think without a reconciler who apart

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01:42:21.039 --> 01:42:25.439
from us, has established that piece, I think it's elusive.

2051
01:42:25.600 --> 01:42:25.800
Bill.

2052
01:42:26.119 --> 01:42:29.720
Yeah, well, and that's that's the point. Is peace is possible, yes,

2053
01:42:30.039 --> 01:42:34.119
exactly if you're hooked in to that which makes it possible.

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01:42:34.880 --> 01:42:37.199
You know, I'm studying I'm studying the Book of Habacca

2055
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this morning, and uh, Habacca is frustrated. The prophet's frustrated

2056
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because he's saying, God, do you know, hey, hello, aren't

2057
01:42:44.119 --> 01:42:46.359
you seeing what's going on here? And I'm thinking, oh

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01:42:46.439 --> 01:42:49.960
my good, this could be Habacca today in twenty twenty

2059
01:42:50.039 --> 01:42:52.880
five in our country going hello, we got you know,

2060
01:42:53.479 --> 01:42:57.840
sexual you know, confusion going on, We've got unjust things

2061
01:42:57.920 --> 01:43:01.560
happening in our country. Is where is the God of

2062
01:43:01.760 --> 01:43:02.479
justice here? Right?

2063
01:43:03.000 --> 01:43:05.159
Yeah, that's exactly right. And I think that's one of

2064
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the other great questions that we have to grapple with,

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no matter what we believe, is what do we do

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with evil? What do we do with injustice? What do

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we do with the hard things that happen? And again,

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we have a worldview that gives us a framework to

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think about that that those things came as a result

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of human sin, of Adam and Eve's fault. And we're

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still we are still experiencing the outworking and the consequences

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of one decision. And yet all of us can also

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probably look back and point to bad decisions that we

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have made. Right lest we you know, point fingers.

2075
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Too much about pointing fingers, but we got to really,

2076
01:43:51.560 --> 01:43:55.239
like anything, you've got to see the truth of the condition,

2077
01:43:55.399 --> 01:43:58.960
right exactly, And let's not delude ourselves. I mean, you know,

2078
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one thing in fact, of course, you know the big

2079
01:44:01.039 --> 01:44:03.000
new one of the big news things over the weekend,

2080
01:44:03.439 --> 01:44:06.520
of course, was you know, the murder of the whiners

2081
01:44:06.920 --> 01:44:09.920
and and how drugs came into play here and I'm

2082
01:44:09.960 --> 01:44:13.279
looking at this and I'm and I'm seeing the medium

2083
01:44:13.399 --> 01:44:17.079
missing a key component in all this. And you know,

2084
01:44:17.279 --> 01:44:19.920
in contrast here and I'll bring this to fruition here

2085
01:44:19.960 --> 01:44:23.560
and hopefully I can do this right, is that what's

2086
01:44:23.600 --> 01:44:26.840
happened is our government has been laxed and I'm not saying, hey,

2087
01:44:26.880 --> 01:44:28.319
we're gonna blame it all on the government, you know,

2088
01:44:28.439 --> 01:44:31.039
as if we don't have any self responsibility. But the

2089
01:44:31.199 --> 01:44:35.199
government has been cooperative to this end because people are

2090
01:44:35.239 --> 01:44:37.840
allowed to make money off of this drugs which are

2091
01:44:37.880 --> 01:44:42.600
poisoning our kids and driving them nuts, and and so

2092
01:44:43.239 --> 01:44:45.840
here it is. Now, it's been manifest and this hasn't

2093
01:44:45.880 --> 01:44:49.319
been the first time when a family member has gone

2094
01:44:49.319 --> 01:44:52.600
against the parents and murdered the parents and you say, hey,

2095
01:44:52.800 --> 01:44:55.800
drugs is involved here. Now, thank god, we have a

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01:44:55.840 --> 01:44:58.199
president that says, oh, that's right. There is a war

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01:44:58.279 --> 01:44:59.960
on drugs. We've been talking about war on drugs for

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decades and now you have a president saying, Okay, hey,

2099
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you want to kill our kids, guess what We're going

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to go after you. We're gonna blow boats out of

2101
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the water. We're gonna do everything we can because this

2102
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isn't even acceptable, it's beyond unacceptable. You're killing our kids,

2103
01:45:16.479 --> 01:45:19.800
and there's retribution to be paid. And I'm the President

2104
01:45:19.840 --> 01:45:22.119
of the United States and I'm putting the Secretary of

2105
01:45:22.199 --> 01:45:23.079
War on this project.

2106
01:45:23.520 --> 01:45:27.640
Yeah, you know that that's right. And I think you know,

2107
01:45:28.079 --> 01:45:31.439
back to just drugs, there is a worldview that says,

2108
01:45:32.560 --> 01:45:35.680
what you do in the privacy of your own home

2109
01:45:36.079 --> 01:45:39.880
with your body is your business. And I think that

2110
01:45:40.039 --> 01:45:44.159
there's a place for a discussion about the costs that

2111
01:45:44.359 --> 01:45:48.039
society as a whole has to pay when we try

2112
01:45:48.119 --> 01:45:51.760
to pretend that those decisions made in private don't have

2113
01:45:52.840 --> 01:45:59.680
public impact, right, And the reality is when you when

2114
01:45:59.720 --> 01:46:03.279
you minimize that, when you decriminalize it. You know, we've

2115
01:46:03.399 --> 01:46:06.439
seen in Portland and San Francisco and these, you know,

2116
01:46:07.199 --> 01:46:10.640
these metropolitan areas. We want to try to pretend like

2117
01:46:10.720 --> 01:46:13.239
the answer to the problem is to say there's no problem.

2118
01:46:14.079 --> 01:46:17.720
The problem doesn't go away, right, and and the problem

2119
01:46:17.760 --> 01:46:22.000
has layers. The problem has economic components, it has social components.

2120
01:46:22.359 --> 01:46:25.319
It's not just one thing. But I think that you're

2121
01:46:25.439 --> 01:46:30.600
right to recognize that the drug component is a significant

2122
01:46:30.640 --> 01:46:32.920
one in many of these stories, and it seems to

2123
01:46:33.000 --> 01:46:35.920
have been one, you know, in Nick Reiner's life as well.

2124
01:46:36.479 --> 01:46:38.239
And I want to address this idea about you know,

2125
01:46:38.279 --> 01:46:41.479
because that that's been the mantra, right, you know, along

2126
01:46:41.600 --> 01:46:45.199
with my body, my choice and all this r you know,

2127
01:46:45.319 --> 01:46:47.960
but this idea that oh, what happens in the bedroom,

2128
01:46:48.039 --> 01:46:50.239
you know it, guess what doesn't stay in the bedroom,

2129
01:46:50.560 --> 01:46:53.479
just like it doesn't stay in Vegas, right, you know, that's.

2130
01:46:53.439 --> 01:46:58.319
Right, And I think that again, we have a privatized

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and an atomistic understanding of our choices, and we really

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want to believe that we're sovereign. But at the same time,

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we also want to believe that our choices don't matter.

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And you don't get to have it both ways, right,

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The reality is we are We're connected relationally and all

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of our choices have a relational impact, whether we realize

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that or not. And again it goes back to the

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garden of Eden, right, we goes back to sin and

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alienation from God and from each other.

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Well, the simple example is the speed limit. Right, you

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can break the speed limit, that's fine, but guess what

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has consequences? And the speed limit is there for the

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safety of all concerned, right, And if you want to

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think that you're above the law and put yourself in

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danger and everybody else in danger, hey, you know we

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have stories that are endless on people being reckless and

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guess what you know? So we operate in a society

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with guardrails for the protection of one another, right.

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Right now, that's right, And as you and I have

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talked about many times over the years. You know, we're

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living in a time that I think increasingly resembles that

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of the judges, you know, and every man did what

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was right in his own eyes. I'm like, well, again,

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if we don't have an agreed upon basis for what

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it looks like to live with each other, you get chaos.

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How can you end up with anything but that?

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Yeah, you get you get to Minnesota?

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Right, Yeah, that's right.

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That's only one example. Trust me, that's not.

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Just It's not just there, you know, just one example.

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Yeah, because as you said, this mindset has become so

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pervasive that again, the first the first step towards I

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guess repentance or some kind of resolution is an admission

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of the problem. And we need to have clarity on

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what the problem is. But everybody's lying about it. I mean,

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you bring people into Congress and it's like, I didn't

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want to. I can't even watch anything from Congress anymore

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because like you think, you think you're gonna bring somebody

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in like Jack Smith, and he's gonna say, oh, you

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got me, Yeah, you're right, I did. I was unjust

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good luck.

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Right, good luck that that's exactly right, which brings us

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back to advent. Obviously that I'm thankful that that we

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serve a God who sent his son to live and

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die for us, to do for us what we could

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01:49:32.520 --> 01:49:35.960
not do for ourselves, right, Uh, and to bring us

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that reconciliation with God, and that reconciliation paves the way

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for reconciliation with others here that we have been alienated from.

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And there's there's hope, and there's peace, and there's joy

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in that.

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Yeah, right and uh? And that's yeah, and ultimately love

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the fourth wake the manifestation of God's love Jesus' manifestation

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demonstration with his arm stretched out on the cross saying, hey,

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come to me. I know i'm bloody, i'm a mess,

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I'm irrecognizable, but I want you to know I did

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this for you.

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Yeah, that's exactly right.

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Does that blow you away? That blows me away?

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Well? It does.

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And I think that I have lived with that truth

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since I was little. And I think that the temptation

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for us as Christians is it becomes so familiar that

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it can kind of lose its impact, right, And so

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I think we would do well, as you have just said,

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to reflect on that and to take some time over

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this Christmas season to reflect on you know, we call

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him the reason for the season, and there are songs

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about it, but it's true. He is the reason for

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the season. And have I personally have I taken hold

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of that and have I reflected on that recently in

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a way that changes me? And I have to say

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it's uneven. You know, I have good days and bad days,

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and again I'm thankful for the grace on all of

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those days. But that's the invitation this Christmas season.

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Well, welcome to humankind there, my friend. We all we

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all battle that, as Paul said, the things I want

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to do, I don't that I don't I do? Hey,

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that that is the human paradox, and we live with

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that paradox in and of ourselves. But this is why

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we hold onto the garment of Jesus and we're blessed

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to be reminded every year. Thank you Lord that you

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remind us every year, as you say, the reason for

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the season. And our prayer for our listeners and our

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families out there is that this would be a most

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joyful and loving Christmas season for you, and that that

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you would you would be transformed in a way and

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draw nearer to God in such a way that you

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would think just was not possible. But this is the

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God we serve, the God of the impossible, the God

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who loves us, the God of peace and the God

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of joy.

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Right, that is exactly right, And I'm thankful to be

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able to celebrate that this season, and even to just

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