The Bill Martinez Show 03 12 26

0:00 Are you ready? Yeah, okay, let's do an Ill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and our future. And now Bill Martinez. It is six minutes after the top of they are right now. Glad you could join us. I'm Bill Martinez. He's Mike O'Neal, the Assistant General counsel at Landmark League. O Hey, Mike, how you doing. I'm a good Bill. Good to be with you. Always good to get caught up on everything that's happening in our world. First of all, let's go to Iran. The way this is being executed, I know, I mean, it's amazing what has happened in such a short period of time, what Trump and the Department of War have been able to accomplish. And the Democrats, you know, they're still doing everything they can to stick spokes in the in the bicycles of our warriors and everybody else that is, you know, praying for our military that this would be handled in an expeditious manner. But you know, the Democrats are just looking bad all over, and I think the American people are seeing them for what they're.

1:02 Worth, certainly. And you it's funny, you always get these little anecdotes and these silly I mean not these stilly, these these stories that come out the left was upset about money being spent for food and two million or twenty two million dollars allocated for steak and lobster, and that just shows how stupid and ignorant the left and Democrats are in general. Don't they understand that the military, before they're going to go engage in combat operations, we're talking an enormously massive combat operation where that's going on, everybody gets fed. I'm not a military guy, but I know that before you get deployed for combat operations, you enjoy a good meal. And really so, of course, if you want to have lobster at steak before you have to go execute weeks and weeks of combat operations on an aircraft carr, I think that's the least you could do for our men and women serving in the military.

1:50 But of course they always lead with their chins. They they demonstrate their their idiocy and their their ignorance at every at every turn. And that's just that's just kind of of an anecdotal evidence of how silly and unseious these people really are. You know, you almost wonder how many of these elected democrats have served in the military, I mean already at large in the universe greater universe, in a less than one percent actually serve in the military, much less are in a combat zone, so it's out of their realm of consideration. But my take always is demonstrate humility in the face of ignorance. If you don't know how things work in a given industry or a world, then don't pontificate on it, right Just step back and say, these are the professionals.

2:38 They're doing their job, I mean from I mean, I'm not saying you're you know, they're above the military and the defense of the Department of War, and the elected officials aren't above criticism or examination. But if you don't know anything, just demonstrate some humility, step back and just keep your mouth shut for a little while, exactly, you know, unless and don't undermine the brave men women who are serving in this area of the world beyond beyond anything anybody can reasonably imagine. Can you I read an interesting X post the other day and it was can you imagine you're nineteen too? Or it was actually I think it was the Chairman Kane or General Kane or Admiral Kine, whomever it is, was the people on the aircraft carrier, and it was a really amazing speech. He was trying.

3:21 Yeah, Yeah, it was a great Yeah, I loved it. Yeah, the guys on the these twenty year old's wearing the yellow shirts on the decks of the aircraft carriers, who are operating in the most insanely hostile Can you imagine being on a deck of an aircraft carrier and having to deal with that, and you're twenty years old and you're launching F thirty fives or F eighteen's or whatever you're doing. It's it's beyond anything I can imagine as some guy just sitting here in front of a computer. So operate with some humility, respect the people, the men and women in our armed forces, and understand the enormity of the task that they're undertaking. Well at rit large. Anyway, consider that the Democrats have a terrible track record when it comes to, you know, conducting a war, you know, in the recent decades, certainly, I mean they're they're lousy at it. So it's like, you know, you got to take them with a grain of salt. I mean, even their you know, their outrage over the you know, war powers hypocrisy. As Jonathan Turley said, I mean it's like they exposed their skirts, and you know, their hypocrisy was so blatant and obvious. I mean, I guess they think that they haven't quite caught up with the idea that uh, you know, Google exists and AI exists, and people can do the research and and look back in history and see their modern representatives, you know, executing a war, a war plan without you know, congressional approval, and even Nancy Pelosi and all the other Democrat leadership, you know, chiming in saying why is that a problem?

4:44 Right, yeah, certainly, and going back into it declaring war. That's the power of Congress. And we've talked about before if Congress has a role here to play, power of the person impeachment, if they want to funding, and I mean they do need to act. They you need a fund. They do need to fund uh, the the air, the air the I'm talking air marshals. They need to make sure that the infrastructure DHS bills are three air traffic right all that. I mean, these guys, they are losing, these people and it looks look how long it takes to retrain them. I mean, and you can't blame these guys. I mean, look at they got to make a living and to be involved with a management team that's turkey jerking them around.

5:24 And you know, one day they got a job and they're you know, they're able to put food on the table, and the next day they're out for you know, a couple of weeks and god only knows what, just because they're political pawns. Yeah, yeah, I would want to. I want to see Congress exercising its core functions and that's the power of the purse and passing corporations bills to ensure that our government is fully funded, particularly when we're facing threats from possible sleeper cells on. Top of it. Exactly, Yeah, how many incidents we've had two or three now, right? Yeah? Absolutely at least. So so let's let's let's we could spend a lot of time talking about the frustrations with Congress right now, but certainly certainly perform your your core Article one function and start appropriating money where it's necessary in this time of open hostilities with a foreign adversary.

6:10 So get to work. Yeah, I mean, look at, uh, they're going they're going after DHS. It's already funded anyway, So all you're doing is, you know, crippling these other agencies. Uh, you know, everyday citizens are out there doing doing their job. And of course, as you said, right now, when the alert level is raised because of what's going on in Iran and you've got rogue people already, you know. Yeah, there's one situation where the guy you know said, hey, he was in support of the Ayatola. Well, hello, how much more? I mean, you know, come on, you read the tea leaves here. This isn't this isn't a genius work. Right, absolutely, I mean, and we'll see how it plays out politically for it. But again, I think a couple of things, uh, you know, for going into I guess we're not right now. We're still in March, so a lot of things can happen between now and midterm elections.

6:58 But I think it's going to be driven by economy and the success of this operation in Iran. So if if they, if they, and the passage of the Save Act. You know, I think there's gonna be a lot of things that motivate people to vote. And you know, obviously the left isn't doing themselves any favors. But the Republicans and elected office in Congress aren't doing themselves any favors as well. No exactly. I mean it's just like we're it's we're dealing with Obamacare, you know, all over again. Oh, we're gonna repeal and replace it, and then nothing happens. I mean, you can't just blame you know, John McCain. There were other votes that were missing too, but that it came down to that one. You know, that's like in a baseball game. You know, a game is lost because of one era, but then you know how many other hits didn't you get and other things that happened in the previous seasons. It just came down to that one play that made the difference. Unfortunately, but that's the way it plays out. But again, they're so frustrating here. You're exactly right.

7:53 The Republicans have got to find a backbone. They've got to go out and start, you know, just like the Department of War, you know, with a change of the name, the ethos got refocused. And what are they into. They're into breaking stuff, They're into doing damage. They're into killing people, people that were threatening to kill us. People who have killed us. All right, so now you know they're well focused. Unfortunately, Congress is not as focused and they need to be. And there's no wonder. You know, you've got the likes of RN Paul saying, you know, he's nervous about the midterms. He thinks they're going to lose control of possibly both the Senate and the House. Can you imagine if we allow the Democrats to come in and regain power in any form or fashion after the big mess they left us with with Joe Biden.

8:41 I've come to the conclusion that I think that there's certain Republicans, and I reluctantly arrive at this conclusion that there's certain Republicans that actually want this, because if you're a member, if you're three or four of these Republicans in the Senate who are reportedly holding up in act a legitimate vote on the Save America Act. Again, this is the Election Integrity Act that we've talked about, that I'll ensure that there's some base levels of security in our electoral process. Now as it's reported that they're. Jay what, Mike, let's go to break, because I want to have some concentrated time to talk about the say back. We got more from Mike O'Neil after this, stay with us. That palette of pavers collecting dust, the beginnings of a garden, those stray fence posts. Are you haunted by half finished projects on your land? John Deere is here to say not anymore. Our compact tractors allow you to swap implements easily, and they're backed by the nation's largest dealer network. You always had the right idea, and with the right tools, those projects can get finished for good. Nothing runs like a deer. Learn more at John dear dot com. Slash Compact Tractors.

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14:21 They want to have fair and safe and secure elections right on. This is this pulls off the charts, but at any stretch of the imagination, and you know you hear these things. I think I think the Senate Majority Leader Thune said something about this being an issue of podcast influencers that are pushing this. I think that's something. He used something of that term. And how divorce, how divorced are you from your constituency right exactly? How how how blind are you to this? Somebody needs to just say, look, wake up, man, for heaven's sake, this is an issue of incredible importance. And the President talks about this. He's out there meeting you see the videos of him. He's out at restaurants, he's meeting with this constituencies. He's talking to people, and he says repeatedly that one of the top issues that comes before him when people are talking to him, regular citizens like you and me are talking about it, and that's election security. We know that this is an important issue to the base, the individuals who put these Republicans into office. No election security is one of their top issues.

15:18 And for Republicans and Capitol Hill and the Senate Majority Leader to somehow say that this is dismiss it as an influencer podcast influencer issue is beyond the pale. Wake up, for heaven's sakes, you are going to be consign yourself to permanent minority status if you don't take action and put this to a vote. And when you talk about the machinations of Congress, look they worry about the filibuster and the talking filibuster. Look, it is clear that if all you have to do is subject this piece of legislation to a traditional filibuster, make the Democrats come out and talk about it and spend devote hours, weeks, year, whatever it takes days, hours, weeks to express their displeasure of it. Make them engage in a traditional filibuster and then hold thee on it simple majority, or in the alternative, attach it to a reconciliation package where you can attach it to it if you want to use that procedural machination.

16:08 It's fair enough attached to a reconciliation package where you can have a simple majority. But look to come back and continue to say that you need sixty votes to get the Save Act and that it's phil and that you were not going to use the philibus. The traditional filibuster methodology is just absurd for an issue of eighty four percent of Americans believe is necessary and that the president of the United States is talking about it every single opportunity. When he's not talking about the worthy really is when he's talking about any domestic legislation. He's talking about the Save America Act. Do this now, or you will regret it for generations to come. Mike, look at what has been invested for safe and secure elections January sixth. How many people went to jail and were treated so unconstitutionally, put in solitary confinement. You know, you've got what two people that died, died generaly hard lawyer.

17:00 You know, any lawyer who was within one hundred feet of that class has faced bar complaints, disbarnment, disciplinary proceedings, criminal procedures, everything. It all is related to an election that was fraudulent. And I don't care what people want to say, you know, because they'll say, oh, you know, they'll ask me, well, you don't believe that the twenty twenty election was safing. Heck no, I mean, look at all the evidence that's coming out. It's you know, the courts, everybody. The January sixth Committee did everything they could to put a shroud around what happened in the twenty twenty. They talked about everything, but this issue of securing the election and the people.

17:41 This is an eighty percent issue clearly, whether you're Republican, Democrat, independent, they're saying, hey, square this away and look look at the evidence of these countries that ran into situations where they're voting, their elections were compromised. People stopped voting, they said, my vote doesn't care, I don't want to participate. As soon as they secured the election, guess what, you know, every everything went up. People participated because they said, you know what, now I believe my vote counts. And this is what happens. The Democratic Party is not interested. They say they're interested, but they're not interested in counting your vote. They want to count their votes. That's what they want to count.

18:22 As you just said, I mean, you demonstrated the passion of the base in this. This is an issue that resonates with every with with so many people who are integral and putting in putting Donald Trump into office, putting the Republicans into office, and for you to just and for elected officials in DC to just dismiss that and say, oh, well we tried or we've done this, and not to actually demonstrate and put their full force of their power. What are you? What purpose do you serve in Washington, d C? But to enact legislation that your constituents put you in power to do. It's simple. This is not this is it's and again, this is why I'm left with the only conclusion I can assume at this I can draw from this is you're dismissive of the passion at the base, the importance of it. The way this is pulling the win from a political standpoint is you want to lose?

19:09 Do you just? I think that there are certain people in Washington who are so enamored with the Beltway culture and the Beltway lifestyle that they are that they're happy with being a permanent minority. If if you're in the permanent minority, you're not accountable to anybody. You don't have to do anything. You can scream and yell about what the opposition party is doing, but you really don't have to have results. And you can say, well, it wasn't my fault because I'm not in the majority. I'm not in the majority, And then you can continue to live the privileged life you live inside. That and say I was a former congressman and get a free dinner at the local restaurants or whatever you know. And the thing is is that, look at Mike, how many how many congress people are not running for reelection?

19:51 I think it's over fifty. Yeah, I mean what does that tell you? Yeah? Yeah, frustration? And and what also, it's just I think that they also the result of this, or an effect of this not getting a legit vote in the Save Act not getting it through, will be the amount of people who have lost faith in the Republican Party and just don't And you said it before, who just don't? What's the purpose of me voting? Now? Why do I want to vote for? Why do I want to vote for a party that can't do something that eighty five percent of us think they should do that? And it's not like it's not controversial. This is absurd.

20:31 It's not having a federal requirement that you show identification to vote in a federal election is the most basic piece of requirement. How is that controversial? This isn't some hot button issue that's fifty to fifty that we're all split on as a country, nition divide it. It's nonsense. It's absolutely mind boggling when you get into the nut, when you get into the weeds in this and actually really process it. How absurd it is that this legislation hasn't already been acting. You made the other point. Final, I'll just make one last point. We're the old country in the world that does this. Every other representative democracy or republic in the in the world has identification to vote, and we're the only ones who don't work better than them. Come on right, exactly, And some of these other countries are figuring out these election machines are worthless and they're throwing them over there, you know, and kicking them to the curb. I mean, because they are. They are door openers to corruption and fraud. I mean, that's been proven time and time again. I don't care what anybody says, but look at we We the people have to take charge, you know. And I've been saying this for quite a while.

21:36 Forget about being a Democrat or Republican. This isn't a party thing. This is about are you four or against America. If you're for America, we need to do those things that make sense and force our elected officials to do that. You need to slam the phones, you need to send emails, you need to you know, just It doesn't take a whole lot of time, maybe even just five minutes a day, make a quick phone call, and all you got to do is say. That respectfully, Yeah, respectfully, respectfully approach and yeah peacefully respectfully. Uh, you know, encourage your elected representatives. And let's make we're sophisticated enough to make distinctions here. The House and the House aren't the bad actors in this case. The House of Representatives have done what they have done that they passed already, Yeah, exactly, and they've passed a lot of good legislation, so they're not the bad actors here. But again, you know, the Senate with their procedural rules, and I understand the constitutional rule that the Senate plays here, but this isn't one of those times where the Congress needs to get into some per and even if they do, this isn't this isn't something This is something that the overwhelming majority of us agree on that there is no reasonable argument against it. So if you want to have a debate about it, okay, have a debate about it.

22:43 Let let the Democrats come out and say why they're against identification when you go vote. Let's let's let them stand in the world Senate and say, oh, explain to the American people why you're against these these common sense measures, and and let the chips fall where they may, and then hold a vote on it by simple majority. Let the let the Democrats filibuster as long as they want, let them hold up whatever they want to hold up, and let the weeks go by, and let the public cacophony build, and then hold a vote. Just do it. If they've done it two weeks ago, we'd already been into we'd already have two weeks of what have they done? You know, if they started this two or three weeks ago, they would have been doing the two or three week filibuster right now, and we'd be that much closer to having this legislation passed. Every day that goes. Back exactly, Dave, Well, they're running the clock because the midterms are coming up, and they don't want anything to change.

23:26 They want to stay the same, and they're going to drag their heels no matter what. But like we said, Mike, and I agree with you. We the people get on the phones. Let your senator hear from you about the Say back, Mike O'Neal, the Assistant General Counsel at Landmark Legal. Thank you, Mike, take care, Thanks Phil, Having a good day. Individuals and businesses with tax problems listen carefully. Do you feel like you're losing control of your finances? If you owe over ten thousand dollars in back taxes or have unfiled tax returns, we can help you take back control. The IRS is the largest and most aggressive collection agency in the world, and they can seize your bank accounts, garnish your paycheck, close your business, and file criminal charges.

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27:38 I'm not personally. I mean, it's a continuation of a trend, and I've been tracking for forty years. This is just the latest iteration of it. But yeah, I mean, nevertheless, I'm the reason I keep tracking it is that I'm hopeful that at some point Christian leaders will hear some of this and they'll say, oh my gosh, that's not the way it's supposed to be. We better do something about it, right, Let's do something about it. Well, it's almost like, you know, it's one thing for leaders, but the other thing is the people themselves to say, oh, you know what, I'm going to forget about the stove being hot. I'm going to go ahead and put my hand on a hot stove. Once again. I'm going to go and you and I talked about this as well. I'm going to go ahead and defy gravity because I don't think God exists. Okay, And after you have enough carnage and people are tired of being stupid and injured, they finally say, oh, maybe we ought to rethink these theories, right, because you know, again we're reminded one of the wisest men we're told, Solomon himself, said there's nothing new under the sun. And so here we are. We're in this human disease factory that just keeps on repeating all this silliness, thinking that somehow there's going to be a pony under all that manure that's stocked up for us.

28:55 Well, yeah, and so part of what this study did we did in conjunction with Family Research Council, because they're working with thousands of churches and millions of individual Christians who are conservative in terms of their political persuasion and they want to see the country return to its biblical roots. Great, but then we do this kind of research with church to people, and that's what this study was. Among people who consistently go to church Christian churches, and we find that, wow, their worldview is so far off the mark, even though they're attending conservative churches. They're conservative politically. You know, We've got a third of them who say they prefer socialism to capitalism. You've got another quarter of them who say, well, gee, I don't know which one would be better really, you know, And then you look at their worldview, you look at their views about success and purpose and salvation and truth and the Bible and so forth, and it's minorities of these people. These are our best and our brightest, so to speak. When we like the church world, they don't get it. They don't have a biblical worldview. You know, only eleven percent have a biblical worldview. So yeah, I mean, we've got to rethink the entire approach that we're taking in ministry because it's that whole definition of insanity. Keep doing the same thing over and over and think, oh, yeah,

30:25 tomorrow they'll have a biblical worldview. Tomorrow they'll understand that socialism kills the culture, you know. No, I mean we've got to be much more direct and take a whole different approach. Jesus gave us the approach. It's called discipleship, and you know, we're simply not practicing it. We think programs and big events are the way to. Go exactly well. And the thing is, I think it's interesting that we're talking about this topic, not only because of what happened in New York, but also that here we are on the eve of Thanksgiving, and we've got Thanksgiving week coming upon us here, which I love. And look what happened with the Pilgrims. They experimented with socialism.

31:08 And I think it was quite ironic because here the Pilgrims, you know, were enscunched. I mean they had bathed themselves in scripture, in prayer and fasting, you know, seeking God for some twelve years. Fight let us have a place where we could worship you freely, right, And so they come to America and they land up end up by accident. It wasn't their main target in Massachusetts, and they experiment with socialism, and after two years they go, this ain't working, and they learned the hard way that socialism. Fortunately they didn't have to do what other socialists did and murdering a bunch of people. Because that's the other thing, because even in the modern era. In the last one hundred years, socialis or any of the isms communism, and you know, the founders of communism said, look at socialism is just a nano's breath away from communism. So you just call it what it is, but responsible George for killing over one hundred million people. Oh so that sounds great, let's do that.

32:18 Huh. And you look at all of that and you recognize okay, So where does socialism come from? What's it? What's its body of philosophy drawn from? Well, it's drawn basically from marx So it's essentially Marxism. And what are the key tenets? And Marxism all the things that our forefathers came here to get away from the idea that there's no God, that the Bible is not true, that there is no absolute moral truth. You know, that it's the elites who know what's best for you, and so we should have no power. They should have it all because they'll make better decisions for us. You know, all of that proven to be. False, and yet they still tinker with it when they get here.

33:01 It's remarkable. Thankfully they didn't take as long as a lot of other people in America today seem to be taking to figure this out. But yeah, I mean, we've got to open our eyes and recognize there is a God. He is truth. He gave us truth in his word. He wants the best for you, and that's why he talks about how all of these things need to work, including his chosen people. In the survey, we looked at perceptions about, and beliefs about, and interest in Israel, and we're finding that church going Americans, born again Christians in America feel no responsibility whatsoever. Most of them, not all of them, but most of them would say they have no responsibility Israel.

33:48 We are the new Israel. We are the spiritual Church. They are not. You know, they gave that what but you know, it's like what scriptures are you reading? So exactly, really. Need a rejiggering of the whole puzzle here so that we put it together the way that God wants it put together. Well, until we reconnect with God himself. See this is the deal beginning. Wisdom starts with God. You have no relationship with God, you just kind of render yourself stupid, right, I mean history has demonstrated that time and time again. All right, as sure as if you defy gravity, you're going to hit the ground. You know, it's the same thing.

34:29 It's just built into the cake. God is the source of all wisdom. You think you know better than God, will then listen to him. Chuckle. And keep in mind too that when we look at this, so many people in our churches have thought that because we're told we can have a relationship with God, that it becomes a good buddy relationship. Yeah, God's my good buddy. He understands. No, he understands. But he's not just going to let you go anywhere and do anything and think any thing, believe anything, which is what the church is becoming. We're now moving toward that phase where it's all about emotions. Oh I love God, I feel God, you know, but I also feel like having an affair with that woman because man, is she beautiful. But God made that beauty.

35:16 He'll understand, you know, He'll cut me a break here. No, that's not the way it works. He gave us very specific guidelines by which to live, which is why the Bible alone, among all the books in history, has persisted accurately over the course of thousands of years a couple thousand years. No other document like that why, Because God wants us to have it, he wants us to read it, he wants us to live by it, because that's what brings him honor and glory, and that's what enables us to have that relationship with him. It's not our feelings that, Gee, I'd like to have God is my good buddy. Well, that's not quite how it works. Well, let me ask you this, George. Do you know of a good buddy who is just and right? I mean, it's just real simple. I mean I don't know. I mean, I've got some good buddies. I got some friends, and in the best of themselves, I don't want them executing justice, and I don't think they're always right. But God, consistently, to your point, is just and right. And by that definition, I'm not sure he would be in the buddy category just saying yeah.

36:26 And that's the beauty of him, Bill, is that he's also forgiving and loving, and so we've got the chance to be our knucklehead selves and yet still have that relationship with him. It can be intimate, but that doesn't mean that it's so intimate that we throw out his rules. It's a relationship where at all times he remains in charge, and that offends our American sensibilities here. You know, we like to think no, no, no, no no. It's important for us to be in control because only we know what's right for us. Absolutely wrong, right, you know. I mean, the only one who always knows what's right for us is God. He's spelled it out for us. We simply need to accept it and live accordingly exactly.

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42:01 Right absolutely, so they could go to Cultural Research Center dot com, or they could go to my website Georgebarna dot com. Whatever is easier to remember, go there. All the stuff is free to download it, share it, study it. I mean, you know, it's important to think about these matters. If you don't think American Christians are getting it right, good show them the way. That's what a disciple does is we imitate Jesus and we serve as a model for other people to see Christ through Us through how we believe, how we behave, and so we teach others through that modeling. And it's important that we do that.

42:41 We've got too few people doing it. So I hope that everybody that's listening right now is going to say, Okay, that's going to be my challenge for this Thanksgiving. Everybody that I encounter, I want them to be able to look at me and to see Jesus through the choices that I'm making, through the words coming out of my mouth, the relationships I'm building, the lifestyle that I'm manifesting that needs to reflect the Kingdom of God exactly. Well, the opportunity here again, it starts with you. Okay, before you can evangelize, you've got to be filled up with all the right things that come from God. Otherwise you're going to get your hat handed to you and then you're going to get discouraged and you're going to say, well, maybe I shouldn't really believe in this. No, don't be that seed that falls on rocky ground. You want to be that fertilized soil that here's the word of God and produces you know, thirty sixty one hundredfold right.

43:36 Yeah, And you know, Bill, I mean personally, I've always been an activist. In college, I was an activist. I came out of college, I was involved in politics, running political campaigns, you know, serving writing policy papers, all kinds of stuff meant to change the culture. And for years I was so discouraged because I kept waiting for the revolution that I knew we need. And as I grew up and matured and accepted Christ and got into the faith, I realized, yeah, it's ultimately a spiritual revolution, not a political revolution. But I was still so disappointed because the revolution wasn't happening. People weren't flocking to Christ and living his life. And finally, one day, you know, we got out Maxwell's silver hammer and he banged me on the head and said, ding, ding, You know what that revolution is one life at a time. Don't wait for the big silver bullet that somebody in Washington or Rome or wherever, you know, Wheaton or Colorado Springs is going to fire and things are going to fall into line. It's one life at a time. Look at my son, I sent him to Earth. It was one life at a time.

44:43 He took thirteen yahoos and invested three years, three years in these uneducated by worldly standards, unworthy individuals, until they got it. And George, you need to do the same thing. And I'm telling you Bill that that was such a turning point for me to recognize. Okay, a revolution is one, one person at a time, and so that's what each of us has to be thinking, is who's on my list of potential revolutionaries and one in a time. I got to be discipling and I got to show them. I got to live with them, I got to hold them accountable. I got to model it for them. We got to talk about these things. I've got to invest time in them. Why Because that's how Jesus did it.

45:28 That's how it exactly, exactly and at the core of all this, George, like you said, you experience the freedom of God, I mean how liberating you know, to get to that point going, Oh, I get it. You don't want me to carry the whole world, right, you know, just you know, like they tell you when you get on the airplane, you know, these masks come down. Put the mask on yourself first before you go in, you know, up the aisles and trying to help somebody else, dripping over everybody else's mask. Take care of yourself first, and then you can be of some sort of value here, you know what you know talking about representing the gospel Georgia, I like what Saint Francis of ASSISI had to say. Says always preached the gospel and occasionally use words right.

46:12 Yeah, yeah, you would have to. I great when I went there to a ceci in Italy. It was just such a blowaway to read so many of the things that he said. You know, because I was familiar with him, I was attracted. That's why we went to the place. But when you get there and you feel that environment that he was in where he spent a lot of time outside, you know, in the garden with the birds, God to speak to him, Yeah, yeah, you know what, that's what's missing for me personally. I'm so busy trying to do stuff for God that I forget. Yeah, God doesn't really need me to do stuff. Let me just listen to what he has to say and see where he wants to send me, because I know he's got a better plan than I've got.

46:57 Yeah, and as Jesus said, don't worry when you're asked, you know about God, I'll give you the words right, even when you're being persecuted. And again that's that trust. But unless you really let go and allow that to happen, you'll never experience it. Because meanwhile, I mean, what Jesus did for us is in a sense, you know, we're part of this new covenant. You know, our own our own bodies are the tabernacle of Christ. I mean when you think about it, I mean, we're carrying Christ in us if we allow, if we allow God to you know, to be there in us, and and we get out of God's way, right.

47:41 Yeah, and and and part of that is taken the time to know what we're about. You got to read, you gotta I'm sorry, let me go back. One of my concerns is that in America we've got this thing about read the scriptures. And maybe because it's I work at a university, but I think maybe we need to twist that understanding a little bit and say. Ah, don't just read it. You can read your newspaper, study the scriptures, you know, spend time reflecting on it. This isn't just something to check off the to do list. It's like, dive into it and connect the points. That's one of the things that I discovered when we did all of our worldview and we continue to do a lot of worldview research.

48:24 But one of the reasons why people in our churches don't have a biblical worldview, is that when we go to church, we hear some good biblical sermons sometimes and we sit there and we take notes. Okay, I got the main points. But what we're not doing, we found is connecting the dots, helping people to see how all these things fit together. So when I look at all the research we do, like this current study and this whole issue about Israel, and it's really troubling me that's so many of our fellow church colors, maybe fellow Christians, are not understanding how important God's chosen people are to his heart. And so in the survey, what we found is only six regular churchgoers said yeah, I think it's important for us to consistently pray for Israel. Less than that, less than half said, well, I think it's important for me to talk to other people about Israel, about who they are, about their history, about what they're going through, about their importance in the big scriptural picture. Why don't we do that? Because we don't know the big scriptural picture.

49:37 And so we've got to get back to studying the scriptures. Where does Israel come up? Why does it matter to God? Why did he choose them what's the difference? You know, do we know, say Genesis twelve, you know where God talks about all bless those who bless Israel. I want it on that. You know, exactly what do you do to bless Israel? Okay, you got to pray for him, you got to talk about them. You know. We found that only a third of regular churchgoers said, yeah, I think it's important to invest my resources, my time, my money, other things that I have into supporting Israel. Most Christians not willing to do that. What are they willing to put their money into? New clothing, new cars, new houses, new vacations. All of these kinds of things rate higher on the scale than supporting God's chosen people. So it comes back to this issue of priorities. Do we really know God's word? Do we prioritize his values or do we prioritize our values.

50:37 So it's one of these things where when you start to study the scriptures, hopefully you begin to see the world a little bit differently in your priorities shift. Well, no doubt you will. And I can tell you that was my discovery, George, is that as I began to really make a commitment to the Word of God. And what really grabbed a hold of me was Jesus himself saying, hey, look at I don't live by bread a man. I live by every word that comes from the mouth of God. And I'm going this is Jesus saying this. And then as I continue on that journey and the spirit is leading me and opening up my mind and awareness of what's going on, it was like, kind of what you're saying here right now, and that is that you have to be committed to studying, to you know, chewing, meditating on the word of God. And we do that because it blesses us in so many ways.

51:31 But it also what it does it serves as a guardrail to tell us when things come up that are inconsistent, that do not validate scripture, that are in conflict with scripture. The more you're aware of what scripture says, that stuff is glaring screaming at you, right. I mean, like some of the things we're touching on right now, like socialism, it's like whoa, that is like a screaming siren. But if you're very casual about scripture, oh yeah, that kind of feels okay. And related to that, you know, I've been sitting here looking at all of this data and saying. So, why don't people read the scriptures? And you know, part of it is that they don't think it's true, they don't think it's reliable, they don't think it's relevant. They don't understand that it's meant by God to be our guide for making moral choices. It's all in there, if we'll simply take the time to read it and study it and embrace it. And so I look at this this research report that I put together, and you know it talks about how people are confused about abortion. Why because we have a majority who say the Bible is neither clear nor decisive in what it teaches about abortion. They a majority say it's not clear and decisive what it says about homosexuality. A majority are telling us it's not clear and decisive. That's the phrase that we looked at in terms of teaching us about transgenderism.

52:59 It's not you're and decisive when it looks at issues like eth in Asia WHOA, it's only clear, unclear, and indecisive if you. Don't read it and if you don't trust it. So you know, when you. Say to God, God, I'm gonna take a chance. I'm going to step out here on the plank. I'm going to go to the edge of the plank, and I'm going to say, God, I'm trusting you now. Now fill my mind with your truth. Give him that shot. Because I don't know about your journey, but that that's literally what I did when when I was a dress I was trying to figure out, is this Jesus guy for real? And and so I told the pastor, who was telling, oh, yeah, is going to trust him? It's like, okay, I'm giving him a month. You think he can pull that off?

53:42 And the pastor, you know, swallowed hard, but you know so. And so, within a couple of weeks after saying to God, God, you just take me, take me. If you're there, if you're real, if this stuff that's in this book that this church just gave me, if this is real, stuff may come alive in my mind, my heart, and my life. And within two weeks, my wife and I were like, we were giddy. It's like, oh my gosh, I can't believe this. Is all real. Why didn't we know this earlier. We're in our mid twenties. Look how much time we wasted, you know, exactly. But that's what America is doing. We're wasting our time pursuing stuff that's meaningless when we've got life being handed to us by the one who created it.

54:28 Amen. He's the director of research at Arizona Christian University's Cultural Research Center, the author of Raising Spiritual Champions, Doctor George. As we wrap things up, remind everybody where they can go to study for themselves and to show themselves approved, not just for the approval process, but for their own joy and happiness. Right. You know what, that was a trick question. You were thinking I was going to get my website, But I'm going to say. The answer is the Bible. Right still the number one selling book on the planet. Right. Oh? Man, I wish I'd written that, but it wouldn't have been number one if I did, had his power, his truth. But yeah, yeah, I mean, read the Bible. If you want to make a new year's resolution early, make it that you are going to not just read the Bible. You are going to study the Bible for the coming year. And it doesn't matter if you get from the beginning to the very end within three hundred and sixty five days.

55:19 Just dive into his word. Stay there, stay underwater for a year, okay, and you'll come up breathing better exactly. And it's okay. You can ask that same question of God. You know that God would be real to. You right absolutely. He's waiting for us to ask it. And the problem is that not enough are asking it. We think, Okay, I'm pretty smart, you know I got multiple degrees. I'll figure this out. Satan's block and the connection there. I need God to overwhelm that and say, okay, George focus. Yes, amen, doctor George Barne. Thank you, my friend. Take care, God bless me. Same to you, my buddy. I'll say, you got it. This vacation offer is so good I'm going to repeat it.

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56:44 Eight hundred ninety five nine seven oh two oh eight hundred ninety five nine seven oh two oh eight hundred ninety five nine seven oh two Oh. That's eight hundred ninety five nine seventy twenty. Getting America back on track. Bill Martinez live. Hey, right now, six minutes after the top of the hour. Bill Martinez here along with doctor Michael Butler. He is a public policy analyst, economics expert, and professor of finance at Stockton University of New Jersey. Hey, doctor Butler, how are you. I'm doing very well, Bill, Thanks for having me. Always my pleasure to be well. Always great to have your insight here to help us understand. You know, what is going on. We've got a disruption in the force here with all that's happening in Iran. You know, for a lot of people, at least those of us who want to remain optimistic. We think that there's a lot of positive that can come out of this, but it's getting through the process and dealing with you know, the mainstream media and the Democrats and the Schumer and the rest of the gang. They just want to be negative.

57:54 Nelly's about everything that has to do with Donald Trump. Yeah, and I think the sooner this gets over, the better it's going to be for everybody. Now, according to everything I've seen, the US has pretty much wiped out the nuclear program, wiped out their navy. I think gotten about ninety percent of their missiles launchers taken care of. So I don't think we're that far away. The short term, in the next day or two, what they have to work on is making sure this Strait of Hormuz remains open. If that happens, that'll deflect any shock in oil prices, and it'll bring oil prices back down. There really is not a shortage now, it's just a matter of getting the oil to where it has to go and opening up the straits. We'll be able to do that otherwise.

58:50 In the meantime, we're flirting with oil prices approaching one hundred dollars a barrel. Yeah, it inched up there and then came back down pretty quick. Donald Trump said, hey, look at will escort you and we'll get you special insurance and all that. So he tried to calm the nerves. But you know, the thing is about petroleum and the whole you know, that whole industrial complex. It's not going to ignore a crisis and where they could raise prices, right. Yeah, probably not, Although I think once this gets resolved, there's so much oil just waiting to get through the straits and get the words supposed to go to I agree with President Trump. As soon as this gets resolved, I think within a week or two you'll see oil prices plummet and gasoline go back down to well under three dollars a gallon or where it was before. And I think the trend for the rest of the year is still downward for oil prices and gas prices.

59:53 Yeah, before this happened, I was paying around I think the low was two forty three right pill up today was three three fifty. Yeah, it's a big swing. It is a big swing. I'm not sure it's peaked yet. Again, it depends on how quickly President Trump can convince tankers to go through the straight Now, Trump said, if necessary, we'll send the Navy to protect you. And what the problem was is mostly from Lloyd's of London, but other insurance companies said, listen, if you go through the straits, we're not going to ensure you because we don't know what's going to happen, and therefore they didn't go through. Now, Trump said that the US will act as a reinsurer.

1:00:37 So what does that mean? So they'll guarantee to the insurance companies that their losses don't exceed a negotiated amount. Once that happens, then the insurance companies will say, okay, since I'm sure I'm not going to have catastrophic losses, I'll continue to ensure these ships and they should move through freely. The key is really to get around in a position where they can't do anything about the straits of horror moves, and that would be a better long term solution. Well, the challenge that you have is that, especially right now, you know who is the leader, maybe the son who supposedly has been wounded. Needless to say, he's he's the next target, you know, for Trump to take out, especially after Trump when they announced his his position. You know, Trump was very quick to say that's unacceptable.

1:01:30 Yeah, and you. Know that guy who was the son of the I toold He's lost his father, his wife, and I think one or two of his children and all these actions. So he's going to be kind of a bitter man. He's more radical, I think than his father. So that's what that's what I've been told that he his roots are out of the IRGC. Yeah, so it's very critical that he doesn't get into power. I think the Israelities will take him out. Within the next few days. That's why I expect it to happen. Trump wants to leave with the nuclear program decimated, no more missiles, and they won't have the ability then to fund those proxy groups hutsis Hamas and Hezbola, and he wants the people to install the leader that they want. Now, this one I told his son that was put in probably about ten or twenty. I don't know the exact percentage of the population support him, and they were out rallying yesterday.

1:02:33 I don't believe that by compulsion, Michael, you had to know that. Probably, so I'm pretty sure that doesn't reflect the majority. Of the views of the Iranians. And once they the Iranians are assured that this military is not going to shoot them if they go out and protest, I think they'll go out in full force, eventually overthrow the government and put in somebody temporarily as they did in Venezuela, until they can have an election and let the people of Iran decide for the first time maybe ever. I mean, going back forty seven years of the eye of totally then you had the Shah before that, and they never really had free elections. With the resources they have, and they're intelligent people, so with the resources that they have, they'll be able to make a run into a thriving country. As long as they stay away from this we're trying to control the world idea and just go back to we want to just live peacefully with everybody else in the Middle East. That will really create a whole new chapter in the Middle East, one that will benefit them greatly and then the rest of the world.

1:03:42 The whole region as well, especially. I mean, all of a sudden, you've got terrorists cut off and their flow of revenue in order to wreak hav it in the region, and of course around the world now because their tentacles are spread out and we know they're here in America as well. So everybody's heads on a swivel here and and needs it needs to be rightfully so because of you know, the danger that is lurking, you know, because you got I mean, we've already had a couple of instances where, you know, pro pro Ietola people have have perpetrated crimes in our country, So you know it's there. And I think, you know, we didn't need to delude ourselves to think that this wasn't going to happen. It's just I think we've been very fortunate that it's only happened at this level.

1:04:31 Yeah, as I say, the sooner we can get this thing wrapped up better, once the head of the snake is completely gone, I think a lot of these lone wolves and cells that they have will kind of dissipate and things will move forward. In the meantime, we are going to have to deal with not only those problems, but some economic issues too. Going right before the Trump started this incursion or war, whatever he calls it, the economy slowed down in the fourth quarter, So the second and third quarter of last year, growing at about a four percent rate. Fourth quarter dropped down to one and a half percent.

1:05:11 Now. Trump economists and White House economists have said the government shutdown, which is almost half of the entire quarter, caused about a two percent drop in GDP, so instead of one and a half, according to their estimates, it would have been three and a half, which isn't bad. January started off adding a blockbuster number of jobs, but then February we not only didn't we add jobs, we lost over ninety thousand. Again a few reasons for that. The Bayata nurses in California, thirty one thousand of them went on strike, so those jobs went away. So and you do get these monthly swings. And in economics we say one month doesn't make a trend. Were way up in one and way down the other. If you have to two. We're still doing okay, and let's see what future months bring.

1:06:05 But the producer price index also shot up. I'll tell you what. Before we go there, Michael, let's go to quick break. We'll pick it up on the other side. More from doctor Butler. After they stay with us. Why do I go to the doctor working on the farm, My heart kept skipping a beat I didn't think much of it, but my daughters made me get checked out. Turns out I have aterial fibrillation, which increases the risk of stroke about five times. Symptoms like a regular heartbeat, heart racing, chest pain, shortness of breath, fatigue, or light headedness can come and go, but if it's a FIB, the risk of stroke remains. If you have symptoms, contact a doctor. I'm so glad I did visit No Time to Wait dot com sponsored by Bristol Myers, Squib and Pfizer. Hop in a John Deere Gator XUV for a day's work.

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1:11:25 So as soon as we can get this thing over, because these high oil prices and high gasoline prices are going to tend to slow the economy too. So the sooner we can get this over and the sooner we can get things back to reasonable normalcy in the energy market, the better off the economy. Will will be. Well, there's lots of balls in the air here. I mean, we're still trying to square away Venezuela. Okay, Now now you have Iran that's going to be a project and the President's already said he's going for all the fifty seven Chevies down in Cuba. I'm a little older. Fifty seven Chevies were a very popular model to.

1:12:07 I can't wait. I mean, that's where they all went. I mean that's always been, you know, one of the dream cars I've had to want to restore, but only available in Cuba. Yeah, so he's got all those countries with geopolitical problems. I think Trump's really bid off a lot here. If he can pull all this off and bring a democracy to Venezuela when they can vote, and have them thriving because they've got more oil reserves than Saudi Arabia, exactly, get them thriving, get rid of communism in Cuba, which I think that they're just about to do, and the most importantly, get rid of the military threat from Iran.

1:12:49 I think we'll have. Really some peace in the world. You know, for years we used to joke, well, how sooner will something happen. You know, if you wanted to say, well, it will never happen, you'll say, well, as soon as you piece in the Middle East, that'll happen. Knowing that, I don't think we'll ever get peace in the mist. And that's when pigs lie, you know, right, the same thing right. Now here you have Trump with He's got the Abrams Accord. Saudi Arabia will sign too, as soon as the conflict were ready. They were ready to sign before except Godza stopped him, right, yeah, exactly. So once they signed, they're really kind of the leader in the Middle East. Other countries will sign. You'll have an economic partnership there with all the countries that will move them forward, which is great for them and are really good for the rest of the world. So the sooner we can get this thing over, the better. President Trump says it should be over in a relatively short period of time. Let's store what that means.

1:13:43 But yeah, well he says he's moving ahead of schedule. You know that what they've been able to accomplish with the Department of War. So all that is good news. And I know people are still nervous about boots on the ground, and I said, look at you know, being military, former military, you got to win the war and so you can't dictate. I know, the mainstream media they just love to go gnawing on that bone. Oh, boots on the ground, you know, we're gonna regime, you know, regime change and all this stuff. Look at you can't have And even Barack Obama said that, but I don't think he meant it. I think he had his fingers crossed behind his back saying that Iran could not be nuclear. But he did everything he could to accommodate that and accommodate all their terrorism.

1:14:26 Right, yeah, exactly. And they even though they agreed with Obama they wouldn't they were moving forward with their nuclear program. Trump blew it all up. Before he did. That, they moved a lot of the uranium out, and according to Steve Wykoff and JAREDY Kushner, when they were trying to negotiate with the Uranians, the Iranians started off by saying, we have a right to enrich uranium, and we have four hundred and some odd grams of it ready, and that's enough to make eleven nuclear bombs. And we know they have the intercontinental ballistic missiles. So according to the Trump people, it could have been just a matter of weeks until they were ready to get a nuclear warhead and put it on a missile that will reach most of the area around Iran and eventually you go far enough to reach the US, and we wanted to stop that before it even had a chance of.

1:15:24 Happening. So Trump went in. He pretty much did it. It's only been ten eleven days now. If he can wrap this up in the next seven eight days, I don't know if he can or not, but if he can, that would settle a lot of things and get everything going back to normal again. You know, as you were saying earlier, Michael, I mean the people I've heard estimates anywhere from forty to sixty thousand. You know, Iranians had been murdered in the streets there at the hands of the eye tool in the RGC and the local law enforcement there. They've got a lot vested here. I mean, they have invested their own blood, which reminds me of America during the revolutionary years, you know, And I've been saying over and over again that the Iranians have had their you know, Patrick Henry moment, you know, give me liberty or give me death. And so I pray and hope that for all the blood that's been spilled, they've earned it. You know, they've earned it. But they've got to just like what we had to go through, what America, our founding fathers had to do, and those that believed in this great American dream, they got to keep on going. It's not just one and done right.

1:16:30 Exactly, and they have to organize and be able to step up and take over the government. You can't have Trump going in there and putting is this is who I want. It's got to be what the people want. Trump says, it's got to be somebody that I approve of, because I don't want you to put in somebody that's going to be just like the Iatola. We want someone who wants to bring some kind of democracy to the Iranian people and let them choose their. Own leaders exactly. The US is safer when everybody in the world can choose their own leaders. It's the countries that can't choose their own leaders that end up being problems. So if Trump can get this over quickly and it turns things around and around. Lindsey Graham was a little upset with the Israelis that they're starting to bomb the oil refining facilities, and Lindsey Graham was saying, look, let's just get the old Guard out there. Don't hurt the country or causes minimal amount of harm as possible. So when the people do get into power, they still have the facilities and.

1:17:37 The ability exactly right keep them going. Now, we don't have to experience something like we did with their rock right when they were burning up their oil fields there. But of course that was being done by their own people, as Dam's people in that. So you know, I get that. And this is the tough thing about executing a war is that you've got to bring these people who are in power to their knee. And as Trump said, this isn't some sort of negotiated peace treaty. I mean, this has got to be full and total. Right, unconditional surrender. They give up, They just surrender to the US. The US comes in, says the Iranian people, pick your own leader. As long as it's somebody reasonable, you'll be able to take control somehow. The US and Israelis will make sure that the place is safe while they do that. But what worries me a little bit.

1:18:30 I think there's hundreds of thousands of people that Iranian National Guard, and Trump has told them lay down your weapons or we're going to kill you. I think a number of them are already starting to side with the people, but we have to make it so they're not able to go ahead and start shooting if anything happens. Or either that or infiltrate in such a way that it gives it takes away, like you say, the freedom for a free and fair election there. Now my understanding in my discussions with people there inside there is this core group of people that want a democratic, operative government, non nuclear. They want to be good neighbors for everybody.

1:19:19 I'm saying, well, hallelujah, you know, make that happen. Yeah, So this has been a group, it's a coalition of opposition leaders. They call themselves a shadow government. They're operating I forget in what country, but somewhere out of Iran. So they'd like to pick somebody and present that to the Iranian people. The second choice is the Shah of Iran's son. He's fairly popular there, so he may be somebody to put in. But either way, anybody from those two groups I think that will move toward a free and fair election in Iran where they pick their own leaders, will be acceptable to President Trump and acceptable to the rest of the world.

1:20:03 Yeah, Like they say, they've experienced a monarchy. They don't want a monarch. They've experienced a religious zealot. They don't need another iatola. They want to, you know, go back to where it was almost before even you know, before the Shaw went overboard and got so arrogant and greedy, there was some freedom, There was some democracy that was in existence there. So they got a taste of it. And of course they're seeing what's happening in America too. I think America has been a you know, that shining light on a hill even still, Michael, you know so, you know, so we're blessed for that, and I think other nations are being blessed for it as well. We got to leave it there for now, Doctor Michael Butler, the public policy analyst, economics expert, and a professor of finance at Stockton University. Thank you, Michael, take care, appreciate you all right, You got it.

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1:24:38 Good to have you with us, Thanks very much, good to be here. Well, the question is what if the mysteries of quantum physics aren't paradoxes after all to be ignored, but clues to a deeper model of reality. That's the question you ask. Well, in your new book, you introduce what you call essentia theory. It's a consciousness first framework that integrates logic, mathematics, modern physics to explain the strange phenomena that materialism leaves unresolved. Now that's a heck of a sentence, So I'm going to give you plenty of time to break that down and help our audience track with you. Okay, sure, think Well, basically, I got interested in atomic science some number of years ago, and, like anyone who looks at this area, because it's really fundamental to the way the universe is put together, you notice that there's some holes in the information that just no one can resolve.

1:25:30 There's no models that can really resolve all of these things. So I looked at it and looked at it over a period of years, and one day I had what you might call a flash of insight, and I thought well, what if it's this. And part of the reason I was able to do that, I think is because I don't have what you would call a standard education, more or less self educated. I was self educated in the law, never went to law school, but I passed the bar and various other things like that, and so I got self educated here and that kind of helped me to look outside the box that most people would be looking in if they had been educated in these things. And so I came up with a new idea and tried it out and it worked pretty well. So I thought, well, gee, this is worth announcing because it has significance. It has importance to people, and it's worth telling people about broadly, rather than just telling the community of philosophers and scientists, although there is something else I'm writing which will be specifically for them.

1:26:25 Well, you said that mostly your self taught. But yet I understand you're a Kumlani graduate in music with minors in physics and philosophy, so it's not like you've been devoid of any formal education. And the fact that music was part of your education. How much of that played into your epiphany. I don't know a little bit. I suppose One comment I made a few weeks ago was that you could think of reality as being a denser form of music, but from a technical point of view, really not very much at all. The physics and philosophy which I learned, I learned obviously, some of it in college as an undergrad.

1:27:08 I went to school in the sixties and seventies, and the question comes up, well, how much did you really retain? And so I learned a whole awful lot more later in life than what I learned in college. Well nothing else. I always say, William that it just it drops seeds that left questions that later on came out from underneath the soil. So strange, you know. There you go, that's a good That fair, that's fair. Yeah. So that's the way I feel my approach anyway, So I can relate to what you're saying. But hey, you know, because we're all I think the search for understanding at least I appreciate that, you know, people who take life seriously and are looking to the route to say, Okay, what is this really all about? What's the rhyme and reason of this universe?

1:27:56 Right? Yes? Yeah, And that's something that I found that once you resolve these problems in quantum mechanics or atomic physics, you could actually start getting at what does life mean? What's it for? Why am I here? Because if you look at the standard model that science tends to operate and most scientists tend to operate on, you could call it materialism. And I think Stephen Hawking once said something, or it's attributed to him, that something to the effect of, you know, we're just an organic scum on a third rate planet in a far corner of a distant galaxy someplace. And you know, if you have that sort of a viewpoint, that we're just here for a little bit of time. We come, we go, we leave the universe essentially a change because it's a big, huge universe and wouldn't notice this anyway. Then the question becomes, well, what meaning does your life really have? The way I've looked at it, and the way if you take the information from atomic physics and you take logic, you take math, and you look at it without bias, you come almost to the inevitable conclusion that hey, we're spiritual beings and we're embodied and we exist in this universe. But there's more to us than just being educated animals, right. And once you have that realization, you can start looking at different things.

1:29:11 You can start realizing things about meaning, about ethics, about happiness, about how to live a life that's actually meaningful and fulfilling. And these answers start unrolling for you and they start coming out for you right well. And the thing is is that you touch on something significant here, and that is the realization that we are spiritual, you know, So that means there's more to this life than what we're experiencing right now. Yes, definitely. I tend to think of materialism these days as being something of a steampunk philosophy or a kind of a leftover from the nineteenth century, which is where it originally started and grew. We're in the twenty first century now, and we need to come up with a better model for what life is and how life operates, and what this universe is and how it operates than what was good back then. It's interesting because to some degree, when you talk to people about it, it's a little bit like being I don't know, an electrical engineer talking to guys back in the eighteen hundreds who all they know is that they have steam powers and locomotives, et cetera, and so forth. You say, hey, there's these magical force fields.

1:30:20 You twirl a wire inside some magnets and you get power out of it. It sounds weird and unreal to them, but the fact is it's true. William, Well, what do you think right now? In terms of timing? As the universe continues to spin here, it seems that there's been an acceleration for the intellect we put it in that term. You know, we're questioning more we have I don't know, maybe it's beyond just being inquisitive, but we also have some other forces that seem to be aligning with us to be smarter, to be better humanoids, so to speak, in this temporary plane that we're in.

1:31:02 Yeah, well, the information is gradually coming together. I think my book is probably just one manifestation of that, one indication of it. Yeah, the data is coming together because part of what I write about in the book is that as human beings, we've been chasing knowledge for quite a long time now, and as we've gone along, we've gotten smarter and smarter and smarter. We've accumulated more and more data, and we've finally gotten enough data together to be able to solve the puzzle, or at least, you know, open the door to being able to solve the puzzle. And I think that probably happened something along the lines of fifty or seventy five years ago, where we actually finally using science, using religion, using philosophy, accumulated enough data to say, oh, this is what it's all about. Up until then. You take a look at philosophers like Aristotle and these guys, they were making to some degree, educated guesses.

1:31:57 Now we have data and we can proceed that data make logical conclusions and say, ah, that's the answer. Are you seeing more harmony and these disciplines than ever before? I mean, before, you know, somebody would you know, I'd often say that we it's that old analogy of people being blindfolded feeling different parts of the elephant. But there was contention, there was no necessary agreement of what it was. It was just hey, I'm feeling this, and you know. But it just seems now that there seems to be some harmony and some convergence of these different disciplines, that people are realizing that science doesn't necessarily have to be in conflict with you know, things of the spirit. Indeed, in fact, I think the central point the book makes is that science leads the way to the spirit.

1:32:44 If you actually take a look at the science and the data and you're unbiased about it, the most rational conclusion you can draw about it is that you're a spiritual being and that you need to address this. This is the most important thing you can do. Houses, cars, things like that are they're nice. I mean, they're fun. You know, it's good to have stuff, But the most important reality of life really is spiritual and that should be the most important thing that things that people are worrying about before they get all wrapped up in the material universe or they get wrapped up in power games or things. Like that, well, I say, the material things hold you down, and if you're looking for elevation, you can't be you can't be held down the things that are of this mortal world. You know, It's like I was sharing with somebody last week. I said to Hi, thank God, thank God we're mortal. You know that this too, well, this too will pass. So it's not gonna last forever.

1:33:39 Right, uh huh, yeah, this too will pass. But fortunately you know now that we have the data that we can kind of figure a way out. We can figure what is important and why it's important. I think that's another thing that's really really to me important about the book is that it gives you an idea, For example, with ethics, why is ethics important? You know, because ethical systems have come down to us through various religions, various times, and right now in society in general, people tend to view ethics or morals as being a way to cut into your fun, or some archaic rules that are left over from a previous civilization, or some stupid arbitrary things that you should shouldn't really pay too much attention to, or perhaps the idea that, oh, we're redoing ethics in a new way. Well, actually, ethics have properly thought out.

1:34:32 It's just rules for behavior. It's a constant, isn't it. Yeah, it's a constant. It's a rule. It's a set of rules for behavior that lead to a happy life. You could say that ethics and morals are the technology you have happiness. You can really genuinely make that case. It's like, you do this, you will end up a better being, You'll end up a happier person. You do that, you go down to dead end. I did an interview the other day where I mentioned that, you know, I grew up in the sixties and so I've been down my share of dead end I've experienced them personally. And you don't have to go down to the dead ends. There is a road that actually leads out, and it leads through spiritual practice, it leads through religion. This is something that each person needs to sort out from themselves, but there are ways out.

1:35:17 Well, we've got a little less than a minute left. I could be talking to you for a long time. I mean, this is fascinating to me, and I really appreciate all the great work you've done here. What do you want our audience to take away outside of the fact that they need to get their hands on your book. Yeah, they should read the book. But I think probably the most significant datum is, as we hear so much these days, follow the science, and that's where the science lead. The science leads to you recognizing that you're a spiritual being, that you have some eternal life, and you need to get that sorted out, because if you can sort that out, you can find the road to happiness, you can find the road to meaning and fulfillm.

1:36:00 It and I like what you said earlier, and I want to bring that back. Follow the science objectively as much as you can without bias. Right, Yes, I think that's important. Follow it without bias because if you do, it leads to a whole new universe. Yeah, and you'll discover the truth. Yes, and you'll be set free. William trueats He brings a multi multidisciplinary background to his work. A Kumlai graduate, as I mentioned earlier, in music and minors and physics and philosophy and enrolled member of the Saint Regis Mahawk tribe, approaches science with both analytical discipline and cross cultural insight. And the author of the book that you that we've been talking about reality two point oh, William, thank you for being with us.

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1:41:49 and the symptoms to look out for if you might have them. Doctor, what actually are kidney stones? Kidney stones are actual rocks. They are a rock form from the minerals that are typically dissolved in your urine. These are stones that when they block the kidney, they can cause symptoms things like severe pain sometimes described as the worst pain in the world, blood in the urine, nausea, vomiting, etc. And we do also sometimes detect these stones incidentally on imaging up in the kidney before they cause problems, giving us an opportunity to treat sooner. Unfortunately, they're very common. One in ten people will be affected by a kidney stone in their lifetime and that affects people of all ages and genders.

1:42:31 Doctor, what treatment options are available today and how is the new sea vACC THEAC system changing the patient experience. When it comes to treatment of the stones. While small stones we can try and let pass conservatively, there are a number of really great minimally invasive options out there. These treatments are designed to effectively break up the stone, however not necessarily remove the stone fragments, and therefore, unfortunately, many of these procedures do lead pieces behind that can cause problems themselves. Advances in our field have made way for some great technology, perhaps none as exciting as the Seavac system. The SEABAC briefly is an all in one, extremely minily evasive option where we can go into the kidney and dyscopically. That means no incisions anywhere we break up the stone. And what's really exciting about it is it allows us to suction those pieces out. We can vacuum and clean out the kidney of those pieces that could otherwise potentially be left behind, and it's really been a great game changer in my personal practice and for my patients.

1:43:30 Well. Crystal Jefferson is a patient from New Jersey who struggle with kidney stones brought her to the New York based urologist doctor Winnaker for a breakthrough treatment. Her debilitating kidney stones caused significant pain and facing limited relief from traditional treatments, she became one of the first treated with the Seaback system. Well. Crystal tell us about your experience living with kidney stones. In two thousand and nine, I had a kidney stone I did to the er vomiting and an excruciating pain. I've been played with kidney stones for a while. I just had difficulty doing basic things I used to do all the time, which was standing up, cooking for long periods of time, as well as driving for long periods of time. I had extreme discomfort. I knew something was wrong and I really needed to seek out help.

1:44:25 Well, Crystal, what was it like undergoing treatment with the SAVAC system and what would you tell others going through this? Undergoing treatment with the sea VAC system was just as doctor Winnaker explained. It was the Swiss Army knife of kidney stone tools. The procedure took about two hours. I was not admitted to the hospital. I didn't have to be, but I did have anesthesia. My recovery period was very fast for me. I now after having the procedure, can stand for long periods of time and I can drive for long periods of time. Some equality of life improved. We've been talking with Crystal Jefferson, patient from New Jersey who struggled with kidney stones. Brought her to the New York based eurologist, doctor Winnaker, as I mentioned in early for this breakthrough treatment, and of course remember March's National Kidney Month, and we're grateful for doctor Winnaker, and also for Crystal coming on the show and talking about kidney stones and the signs risked and groundbreaking new treatment. Well, doctor Winnaker, where can the folks go for more information?

1:45:31 For those looking for more information, of course, speaks to a healthcare professionals such as a urologist. And if you're looking to get a personal headstart on some of that information, you can visit a great website called shorewith Seaback dot com which has wonderful information not just on Seavack but kidney stone treatments in general. Well, again, I wanted to thank our guests, doctor Jared Winnaker, new York based urologist, and the kidney stone patient Crystal Jefferson. I'll tell you I personally, I haven't had to deal with kidney stones. I had a dear friend. He he grew him like kidney beans like you. I don't know if that's even a proper metaphor to use, but he was always coming up with kidney stones and you know, and so I could vicariously, I guess not so appreciate the pain and suffering that he went through. But I mean, some good stuff here, and hopefully this will help you if you've been dealing with kidney stones, and after all, March's National Kidney Month, like you need to be reminded about how painful kidney stones are. But hey, look at there's some relief there with the information that Doctor Whittaker has show has shared with us. I also got a couple of minutes here and I wanted to give you an update on the show, and I want to thank you all for supporting us, and you've been so faithful in doing it. And over the next couple of weeks we're going to be focusing on, you know, some fundraising and I hope you don't mind. I mean really need your help and we're grateful, you know, for your support all along. I mean, gosh, we've been doing this show now for it seems like actually fifteen sixteen years now, ever since I got out of Bible College, and I

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