Dec. 17, 2025

The Bill Martinez Show 12 17 25

The Bill Martinez Show 12 17 25
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The Bill Martinez Show 12 17 25
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, Okay, let's do it.

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Ill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future. And now Bill Martinez's.

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Let's go.

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Hey, good morning, Welcome Bill Martinez here with the infamous

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John O'Connor, the author of Postgate, How the Washington Post

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betrayed Deep Throat, covered up Watergate, and began today's partisan

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advocacy journalism. John, good morning, How are you good?

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Good? Yeah, yeah, just sailing along here.

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Okay, Well, I'll tell you.

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You know, you talk about today's partisan advocacy journalism, it's

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on steroids, John.

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Well, it is when you think about it. Barack Obama

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literally sent out dropped three thousand and seven or ninety

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seven bombs while he was in office, and about eight

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hundred drone strikes killing thousands of people. And of course

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he's just a wonderful guy. Should get the Dobel Peace Prize, right,

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you know, Trump is you know, he sent out about

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ten bombings of boats, you know, fairly surgical strikes on

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drug boats, and now he's getting pillared, and of course

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he should be impeached. So it all makes sense. That's

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why I wrote the book Postgate was because it's it's

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a template and show how the media can gin up

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a controversy or it can hide a controversy. Did both

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during water Gate, A ginned up one and hit another.

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And that's what we're seeing today.

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Yeah.

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Well, Donald Trump is the is the mainstream media's pinata,

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and they just you know, just keep on flying, even

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though you know they'll show up in the Oval office

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and he'll call him out and embarrass them.

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You know, they have no shame, John.

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That's right. And they've learned that anytime there is a

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criticism of them, they can put it off to just

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these crazy right wingers, you know, and it's you know,

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they wear it as a badge of honor. You know,

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it's the it's these conservatives are doing this. And look

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at this terrible, terrible president. And as they say on television, boy,

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he's just the way he treats people. He treats people

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so badly. Isn't that terrible? And oh, by the way,

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he's hitler, Yes, and he's the worst guy that ever

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hed the But he's so terrible. When he calls somebody

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miss piggy, that's terrible. Of course it's not. It's not polite.

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I would agree with them on that. But the point

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is the difference between Trump's sort of regular, regular guy

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in a bar rhetoric, which in the rhetoric which falls

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him criminal or even worse, a terrorist and a mass murderer.

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I don't think those two things are parallel.

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Well, of course, of course not. Yeah, unless you're aching

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for bacon, you're not going to kill miss Piggy. But

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Adolf Hitler a whole nother case. And look what they've

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done with ice ice right now, the attacks are at

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over twelve hundred percent increase. And you got a knut

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that goes all the way across country and shoots two

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National guardsmen in the head. That you got a knucklehead

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congressman going, oh, it was just an incident, you know,

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it was what I.

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Mean, help, I think he said it was an accident.

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Right, yeah, that was one of the terms he used.

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And I mean, how how disconnected can you be? I

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mean it's like at that point, you know, we need

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to put a bag over your head and walk you

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out of the room.

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You know you're no longer relevant.

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Well, I think if you put this whole thing, it

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gives a lands through which a lot of recent history

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can be viewed, for instance, the George Floyd riots over

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hundreds of cities, which caused many deaths and of course

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the loss of businesses of many hardworking middle class people,

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many minorities. And by the way, yeah, those are mostly

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peaceful protests, of course, and they're they're the These riots

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are the language of the unheard. These folks are rioting

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because they're just so oppressed and suppressed, and of course

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they've all got nice new tactical gear on and somebody

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is paying for them to come into town. But it's

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just a spontaneous upwelling of the oppressed that we're a

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mostly peaceful protest turns in amazingly and unexpectedly into a riot.

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But that's the way that's portrayed. My point is that's

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the way that portrayed who you know, to the and

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a half the country kind of goes along with that

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because they've been told that by reputable people. And this

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is the disease and this is the problem. I mean, look,

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Europe is full of intelligent people, and we were watching

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their slow motion suicide exactly. We're just not far behind.

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We happen to have a good, hearty stock of people

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who aren't as decadent as those in Europe, and we're

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kind of trying to stop this slow motion suicide. But

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it really is a civilizational crisis. We're in the way

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things are viewed. If we view things correctly and honestly

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and forthrightly and have honest debate, We're not all going

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to agree perfectly, but have honest debate, we'll be fine.

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But that's not what's happening.

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No, without a doubt.

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Well, you know, they've been canceling voices and people, you

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know for the last decade. And as you say, you

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watch what's going on in Europe. I mean right now

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England is being brought to its knees with thousands of

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tractors having a siege work there around the government right

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because they want to overtax them.

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And and what is it over immigration?

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And it's like, oh where else is that happening here

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in the United States?

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Maybe, I mean, do we not? Is the next step?

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We're gonna start seeing farmers siege working Washington, d C.

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Well, and it's interesting that Trump can be hit now

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as people are trying to hit them on affordability. Uh.

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And my point here is that that may have something

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to do just a tad to do with the open

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borders we've had in the last four years. You think,

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which have cost us tremendously. That money has to come

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from someplace. It causes inflation. Think about it. It's it's

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not just there's one hundred and fifty billion in direct

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benefits from federal programs. But there's far more cost to

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this than just those direct benefits from emergency rooms to

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everything else. So when you're getting down into it, you know,

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how much is when you go out and you buy

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a Hamburg or how much of that is really you're spending,

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is really for illegal immigration?

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Well, and look what's happening in Minnesota, John, I mean,

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that's disgusting, billions of dollars. And then you find out

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a lot of this money, I mean, it's like Black

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Lives Matter all over again. They get all this government

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assistance and next thing, you know, which is typical. You know,

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the leadership goes out buys fancy cars and houses and

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ingratiates themselves and meanwhile the people that the money was

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intended for, they're left on the street, still begging for food.

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That's right, and that's played out of course all over

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the place, often legally. When you look at nonprofits that

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are just so concerned about the public interest. But of course,

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before the money gets out to whatever it is they're

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spending it on. You know, people are making oh, just

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a reasonable amount, four hundred thousand for the leader, in

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three hundred and fifty thousand for the vice leader, and

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so forth and so on, and then they go to

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conferences at nice places. You know, Cabos on Lucas is

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a good place for a conference to talk about poverty,

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and our money's going there and so forth. So yeah, yeah,

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that's that's the situation we're in. And are we really

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helping poor people? Know we're not, and so I just

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what we are doing, just does it make sense?

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Well, meanwhile, the taxpayers getting fleeced and being asked for more,

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and meanwhile our national debt is thirty eight trillion in

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counting John O'Connor.

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Well that's right. And then what happens is is when

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Trump left office in twenty twenty, we're paying three one

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hundred billion a year as interest on our national debt

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up through T bills and so forth and so on.

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And now just yesterday I think it was one point

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one three trillion a year exactly.

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We got to go to quick break. Let's go to

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quick break. We'll pick it up.

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We got more from John O'Connor on the other side.

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This is Don Shank with today's Global update from the

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Tide Ministry, sharing the Gospel of Jesus Christ worldwide in

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the languages people were born to speak. The Tide Ministry

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recently participated in the annual ABR Media Continental Convention in Rwanda,

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where one hundred and seventy Christian media workers from thirty

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five African countries focused on fostering unity in their efforts

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to share the gospel across Africa. The Tide delegation included

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several leaders from our partner ministries in Cameroon, Mozambique and Zimbabwe.

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Sessions we're in both English and French so that all

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delegates could benefit from the experience by actively networking and

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engaging in panel discussions. Topics included ministry under persecution, leadership

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in changing times, ais impact, and overcoming local challenges. We

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celebrate what God is doing across Africa and pray for

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continued cooperation in sharing God's word with those who are

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still waiting to hear. To learn how you can pray

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John O'Connor, the outhor of Postgate, how the Washington Post

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betrayed deep trut, covered up Watergate, and began today's partisan

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advocacy journalism. John, before the break, you were talking about

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the interest that's been accruing and the difference between Donald

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Trump when he finished his first term and then you

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got four years of Obama and now we've got a nightmare.

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And the interest payment on our debt alone is has

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already exceeded what we pay for the military.

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That's right, that's right. So that is and that constantly

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redoubles because we're now paying interest on interest and we

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are getting sinking farther in the whole things are getting

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less affordable. Now, what happens if we pry the remedies

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of the collectivists, the progressives like Mandami, where government's supposed

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to give more free stuff that is not economically advisable,

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it's going to sink us into more debt. We got

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into this problem by having the government try to provide

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too many things. We have eighty different programs right now

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giving benefits out to people, eighty that are just out

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of control. They're on autopilot. That's part of the lesson

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of this Somali thing in Minnesota. It's very hard to government.

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People are not here's the basis, and you and I

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would agree with this bill. People are best when they're

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spending their own money. They take care of Aristotle said

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in response to Plato's collectivism, he said, the problem with

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your collectivism, Plato is this man treasures most dearly that

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which he calls mind. Right now, we have money being

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spent by politicians, nonprofits, governments. People are spending other people's money,

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and then it goes to people who didn't earn that

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money and they do not value it, and so all

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along we are losing the tether between you know, benefit

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and work, and that's not good for society. Milton Friedman

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said that when people when we allowed unfettered immigration in

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the United States, there was a difference back then because

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you got no benefits when you came in. When somebody

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came here, it was so that they could get a job,

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so they could work, so they could advance themselves, and

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that made the company the country stronger. But once you

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come in and that is freighted with benefits, now the

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system just doesn't make sense. Now you have to control that,

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because otherwise you're just giving away free things, you're encouraging that.

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And so we've got ourselves in a bad hole here.

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Bill is you and I I think agreed right.

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Without a doubt. Well, the issue of self responsibility, it's key.

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It's foundational to our founding documents. The other thing John

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and I've asked several top economists in the country about

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this is the thirty eight trillion dollars that were in debt.

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How much is tied to political favor how much is

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tied to buying votes? And one economist said probably all

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of it. Bill, to be honest with you, and I said,

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that's the problem that we have this money that's being spent.

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It's not in earnestness to really solve a problem. It's

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to get bureaucrats reelected.

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That's right. That's of course all the Climate Bill was,

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which was the aptly named Inflation Reduction Act, and Biden

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went out and said, this was really a climate bill.

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I shouldn't even call it that. It's really about climate

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because I'm such a climate guy. But then if you

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look at the expenditures for climate, you know all they

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are is poor. You know, that's all is. It doesn't

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do any good for anybody. And then and of course,

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to the extent you're subsidizing something, it means that whatever

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you're subsidizing is non economically viable itself.

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Yeah, Obamacare, Obamacare for example.

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Right, Well, that's right, And my point about yeah, exactly exactly,

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that's going to cut our costs. Right, We're gonna have

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a big government program, you see, but it's going to

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cut our costs now, ten years later, whenever it is now,

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all of a sudden, we have to subsidize it. Well,

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wait a second, I what is that. I thought you

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said this would cut our costs, not that we have

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to have these massive subsidies that we're paying for. You

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didn't tell us that. Yes, but it's too late now,

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isn't it. We've hooked you. We've hooked you in by

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fooling you that this would be good for you. It's

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not good for you, and it is not good for

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the regular taxpayer. It is good perhaps perhaps on the margins.

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It's good for someone who doesn't have insurance, but they

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were getting care anyway, they were going to emergency rooms

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and so forth. But now we're making the cost of

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insurance higher, and we're really straining state budgets who have

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to you know, provide some support for the medicaid.

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Well, if Obamacare were so good, why didn't Congress take it.

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Absolutely? And why would Obama accept the unions from it?

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His supporters and the unions because they don't want it,

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because they know it's nothing. So all you're doing is

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taking those people out there. Will call them suckers, and

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that's what they are, is the suckers that these politicians

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are really fleecing. They're you and I, Bill, and people

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who are you know, listening to this program, watching this program.

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We're the suckers, and we're fleeced by either of the

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the politicians who are getting rich on K Street and

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their nonprofits. And maybe there are some people, to be fair,

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maybe there's some people that are you know, blamelessly indigen

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and so forth. But even at that, even the benefits

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for these programs are often you know, riddled by you know,

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by clever people. And who are you saying, Hey, you're

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handing out something free. I'm going to try to get

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as much of that free stuff as I can, even

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if I have to do so fraudulently. There's so much fraud.

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Everybody acknowledges that there's so much fraud in these programs

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because it looks.

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But look what happens.

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You get Elon Musk to come in in his DOGE

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team and saying, look it, I think we could find

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a trillion. I think they could end up finding two

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trillion dollars of fraud and waste. But well, my goodness,

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the Democrats just went apoplectic. You know, they were in

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the fetal position, yelling and screaming, and everybody was a Nazi,

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and you know, death's on Trump and on Elon Musk.

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And then they do polling on it in about the

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thirty percent of the people said, yeah, I don't see

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a problem in assassinating the president or Elon Musk.

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I mean, that's how crazy this guy.

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Yeah, oh yeah, sure, no kings. We don't want a king.

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I don't. I'm not so sure why Elon Musk was

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a king, but no kings. And then of course, because

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he tried to cut waste in government, we should go

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out and we should destroy all tesla's. Yes, I think

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tesla's from my review in Marine County here, I think

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they're safe and sound. Again, you can still drive one

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around but nonetheless, think about that one. What a reaction

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to the notion that there's fraud and waste in a

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bruce and abuse in government. And of course that's interesting

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because that's always been the mantra of the left. Oh yeah,

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maybe the debt's getting high, but there's fraud and waste

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in abuse by all these right wingers out there. Well, okay,

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let's cut out fraud, waste and abuse. But that doesn't

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seem to resonate when somebody really does something about it.

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Yeah, because that's reelection money, John. You see, you got

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to follow the money and you see what's going on,

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and that money is going back. It's what makes the

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wheels on the bus go round and round, it goes out,

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and part of that is the elected bureaucrats they get

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their vig I mean, this is money laundering, is what

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it boils down to.

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Sure, we talked about the nonprofits. The nonprofits often are

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a scam because they're directly connected to government. They get

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money from government, they then support the politicians and the

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money is just re routed. There was that congress person

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from California who did that.

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She was a.

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Nonprofit person, the one who got caught up in the

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sex scandals. But that's how she came to power, was

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by using nonprofits money gathering them, and she was the

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one who was paying off the politicians. And finally she

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gets in office, then she gets money from the nonprofits,

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and that money doesn't really go anywhere. The amount of

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payoff at the end of the of the cycle, when

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the nonprofit pays for its offices and its people and

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so forth and so on, just is not a good

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way of dealing with things.

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Well, when you talk about administrative costs, we got less

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than a minute left here, John, You talk about administrative

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even the Red Cross, I think their administrative costs are

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something like twenty five percent. There's a lot of other

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you know companies that you know, go anywhere from three

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to five percent administrative costs. I would dare say these

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government operated so called you know entities, their administrative cost

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if you really did an audit on them, I bet

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it's over three.

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If not more.

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What's interesting is is that in some nonprofits, such as

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the Clinton Foundation, they were originally criticized because they gave

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out none of their money to actually these things called charities,

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or they didn't give out money to charitable use, and

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they said, well, you don't understand we are so valuable.

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We're taking our wonderful people like John Podesta and so forth,

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and we're giving conferences all around the country and we're

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helping people out. That's what we're doing. So actually, when

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you really get down to it, the Clinton Foundation was

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one big administrative costs. They didn't give out any money

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at all, or still don't. They have conferences, and what

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they it is it houses political operatives who are performing

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political acts and so forth, and there's gravy then that

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they seek and then hopefully they'll go get some contract

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that will make them a fortune.

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While they're like buzzards.

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They see where the money's gone, where the government money

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is gone, and they're there, whether it's in Haiti or

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any other third world country that they can get their

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claws into. You watch how the Clinton Foundation works, and

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that's exactly what they do. John, We got to leave

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it there. John O'Connor, the outher of Postgate. John is

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always appreciate the time. Thank you for being with us.

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I've been with you.

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Well, good morning, good to have you back with us,

503
00:29:28.720 --> 00:29:31.599
Bill Martinez here along with Jenny Beth Martin from the

504
00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:32.680
Tea Party Patriots Action.

505
00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:34.440
Hey, Jenny Beth, good morning to you.

506
00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:36.240
Good morning Bill. It's so good to be with you.

507
00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:38.359
Hey, Always good to have you here with us.

508
00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:45.400
Well, a lot concerning America today. We have seen the

509
00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:49.599
steady rise of anti Semitism and it is, it appears

510
00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:52.920
to be the driver of just about all things evil

511
00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:53.400
right now.

512
00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:56.519
Jennybeth, Yeah, I would agree with that, Bill, And it's

513
00:29:56.519 --> 00:29:59.960
in America, and it's it is rising around the entire

514
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:01.240
higher world.

515
00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:02.000
We saw it.

516
00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:07.119
I think first we realized just how bad the problem

517
00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:11.480
was on October seventh, over two years ago. And then

518
00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:16.400
just this past Sunday in Australia, as Jewish people are

519
00:30:16.440 --> 00:30:21.680
celebrating Hanukkah on a beach, being just shot and viciously

520
00:30:21.799 --> 00:30:26.400
murdered in a horrific, horrific terrorist attack.

521
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:30.799
But it's not just the terrorist attacks that are the problem.

522
00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:34.759
We are seeing this rise of anti Semitism on both

523
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:38.359
the left and the right, and we have to be

524
00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:41.799
able to call that out and say this is wrong.

525
00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:45.480
It doesn't matter what your other political beliefs are.

526
00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:48.599
As Americans, there are some things we're just going to

527
00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:52.680
say is wrong and we don't stand for and racism.

528
00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:55.200
We have to take a stand against racism. We have

529
00:30:55.240 --> 00:30:59.279
to take a stand against anti semitism, and sadly, I

530
00:30:59.279 --> 00:31:02.519
think we also have to take a stand against political violence.

531
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:06.720
And as Americans, I think ninety eight percent of us

532
00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:10.519
agree on these, but we have to make sure we're

533
00:31:10.519 --> 00:31:12.359
calling it out well.

534
00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:14.400
The ninety eight percent must take a stand on this.

535
00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:16.240
Jenny Beth, I think this is part of the problem.

536
00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:19.880
You know, as you said October seventh, you know that's.

537
00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:21.880
Over there kind of there, you know, and then you

538
00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:23.279
had this this rising.

539
00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:25.839
Already, this anti semitism has been going on for decades,

540
00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:28.920
but it just seems like now for somehow. I mean,

541
00:31:28.960 --> 00:31:31.759
when you've got kids on college campuses, you know, screaming

542
00:31:31.759 --> 00:31:35.039
from the river to the sea, this whole Palestinian issue,

543
00:31:35.519 --> 00:31:39.400
the accommodation of this all in the in all under

544
00:31:39.400 --> 00:31:42.000
the guise of our First Amendment right and free speech.

545
00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:45.200
I mean, all this rhetoric and as you say, even

546
00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:48.240
the lack of civility in terms of language that is

547
00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:51.759
spoken in the political realm. This is all very dangerous.

548
00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:55.720
I mean, we're just we're like lighting bonfire fires here

549
00:31:55.960 --> 00:31:58.599
all over the place, and sooner or later somebody's gonna

550
00:31:58.640 --> 00:32:00.279
throw a kerosene on this thing, and this is going

551
00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:02.759
to get out of hand if it hasn't ready.

552
00:32:03.319 --> 00:32:05.799
Yeah, I think that you're right, and I would say

553
00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:09.200
that the people in Australia and in Israel think it

554
00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:14.359
already is out of hand, and people within the Turning

555
00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:17.599
Point USA organization think it is as well. Not because

556
00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:20.480
of anti Semitism, but because of political violence.

557
00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:22.680
Bill.

558
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:27.039
Anti Semitism, to be sure, has been rising on the left,

559
00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:31.079
and we've seen that play out most clear the clearest

560
00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:34.839
example would be on college campuses. But we are seeing

561
00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:37.079
this happen on the right as well, and we have

562
00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:39.160
to be able to stand up against it on the right.

563
00:32:39.519 --> 00:32:41.000
And what I think that the way.

564
00:32:40.839 --> 00:32:44.359
It's manifesting on the right is that we have people

565
00:32:44.359 --> 00:32:47.200
who say they are America first, and then they blame

566
00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:49.680
all of the world's problems on Israel.

567
00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:53.079
And then they or they'll.

568
00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:57.799
Say they're just asking questions. And you can't blame all

569
00:32:57.880 --> 00:33:01.599
the world's problems on a on a single country. You

570
00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:05.200
can't blame all the world's problems on one certain kind

571
00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:07.759
of people of a certain religion.

572
00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:11.400
It just simply it is wrong, and we have to

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be able to call that out as well.

574
00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:13.799
Well.

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00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:15.960
It is surprising because you think the people on the

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right particularly and you find them a little squishy right

577
00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:23.440
now in all areas political everything is like they're letting

578
00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:27.000
loose of the things that got them elected. You know,

579
00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:31.759
because they were pretty determined when Donald Trump got re elected,

580
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:34.559
and most on a scale of one to the right,

581
00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:35.960
you know what I'm saying. You know, not that they

582
00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:38.160
were one hundred percent, but they were definitely a little

583
00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:40.000
bit more defined. And now all of a sudden they

584
00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:44.359
get squishy. And that's unfortunate because that opens the door,

585
00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:47.519
as you say, to some of these creative ideas and

586
00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:49.799
some of these things they maybe they've been saying it

587
00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:52.400
in the back room, not real loud, but now it's

588
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:54.839
starting to come out and you're exactly right. You know,

589
00:33:55.079 --> 00:33:57.640
they need to be called on this for all the

590
00:33:57.720 --> 00:34:00.480
right reasons, and that is that if we're going to

591
00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:04.440
be effective, we have to be unified. And also we

592
00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:08.199
got to be clear on these things that you know,

593
00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:10.920
promotes civility, that promote.

594
00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:13.440
Righteousness in our in our country.

595
00:34:13.719 --> 00:34:15.519
And this is the problem that we have right now,

596
00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:18.440
is that there's a lot of evil that's flying around

597
00:34:18.440 --> 00:34:21.400
that's being accommodated, and you can point it out and

598
00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:24.039
call it out. I mean, gosh, we go we get somebody,

599
00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:27.679
you know what, we have bomb makers that are going

600
00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:31.880
to you know, set up a campaign over New Years

601
00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:36.000
in Los Angeles and they got what they They arrested

602
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:36.559
four people.

603
00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:38.800
I go, four people? Are you are you kidding me?

604
00:34:39.400 --> 00:34:42.440
This is I mean, they had they were rather sophisticated

605
00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:45.360
in their plans. There's an infrastructure that's a lot deeper

606
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:48.039
than four people. I know the FBI knows this, but

607
00:34:48.320 --> 00:34:50.320
don't think that just because they got four people that

608
00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:51.199
it's done right.

609
00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:53.559
That's right, That's exactly right.

610
00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:56.480
So I think that what we need to think about

611
00:34:56.760 --> 00:35:00.079
is what can we do about it? And we're not

612
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:02.639
going to be able to single handily as individuals stop

613
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:03.840
terrorist attacks.

614
00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:06.840
In most cases, clearly a man in.

615
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:09.400
Australia was able to do that and was willing to

616
00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:13.880
risk his life for the life of others. But we

617
00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:16.599
can make a difference. We can call it out when

618
00:35:16.639 --> 00:35:20.000
we see things that are wrong. We can remind people

619
00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:23.800
what anti Semitism is and that it is wrong. And

620
00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:28.480
we need to keep going back to our foundational principles.

621
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:32.239
And for you and I that that comes from very

622
00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:35.719
clear sources. It comes from from our founding documents, the

623
00:35:35.800 --> 00:35:40.480
Decoration of Independence, the Constitution, federalist papers, and also it

624
00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:44.079
comes from the Bible. And we can look at the

625
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:47.400
Bible and lean on God to understand that we there

626
00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:50.000
are certain moral truths and we have to be able

627
00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:52.079
to stand up for those. And we can look at

628
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:56.199
our founding documents which acknowledge that our rights come from God,

629
00:35:56.800 --> 00:36:01.519
and look at those documents to know what stances we

630
00:36:01.559 --> 00:36:05.280
should be taking politically. And I think if we we

631
00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:08.320
we need to turn down the influencers and the social

632
00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:11.679
media just a little bit and turn up going back

633
00:36:11.719 --> 00:36:15.119
to the foundational documents, turn up going back and doing

634
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:19.519
devotionals each day, reading the Bible, studying the Constitution, take

635
00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:24.960
Hillsdale's Constitution one in one course, making sure that we

636
00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:31.719
are seeped in those seeped rather in those very foundational principles.

637
00:36:32.039 --> 00:36:35.760
And we have to remember also that we cannot call our.

638
00:36:35.639 --> 00:36:40.679
Fellow Americans names that wind up dehumanizing them. And I

639
00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:43.239
think that that is one of the biggest things that

640
00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:46.280
we have to remember when we're getting on in the

641
00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:50.719
figurative wars on social media, the battles back and forth.

642
00:36:50.920 --> 00:36:54.239
You don't group all people together and lump them together

643
00:36:54.360 --> 00:36:57.960
and call them names that dehumanize. And remember that there

644
00:36:57.960 --> 00:37:01.639
are fellow Americans. And if we don't agree on everything,

645
00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:04.280
we should be able to walk away from a disagreement

646
00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:07.119
agreeing that we love this country and we love them

647
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:10.000
as a fellow American, even if we disagree with their

648
00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:11.119
political stances.

649
00:37:11.599 --> 00:37:14.480
And we need disagreement, this is what makes us a

650
00:37:14.519 --> 00:37:18.559
better country. But we also need to know the difference

651
00:37:18.599 --> 00:37:23.079
between somebody who is disagreeing we maybe disagree on how

652
00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:26.639
to get there, versus somebody who wants to destroy the

653
00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:27.960
very thing that we love.

654
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:30.199
That that is right.

655
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:32.920
And when we're seeing and I think that we are,

656
00:37:33.039 --> 00:37:36.519
we are seeing some people who want to destroy the

657
00:37:36.679 --> 00:37:38.760
very thing that we love. And I think that we

658
00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:42.159
have seen immigrants who have come into this country who

659
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:44.360
were not fully vetted. We're not vetted the way they

660
00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:47.239
were supposed to be, who have no intention of assimilating.

661
00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:51.079
And those people who want to destroy America and want

662
00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:55.639
to harm Americans and are willing to commit vicious, heinous.

663
00:37:55.599 --> 00:37:59.960
Crimes that do harm Americans. They need to be deport

664
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:02.280
they need to be out of our country. There's no

665
00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:03.639
place in America for that.

666
00:38:03.960 --> 00:38:07.800
And more American citizens and those who are immigrants who

667
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:12.280
are here lawfully. None of us deserve to have those

668
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:15.000
kind of crimes committed against us because of people who

669
00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:17.960
are unwilling to obey our laws.

670
00:38:18.280 --> 00:38:20.480
Yeah, and look what's happening, Jenny Beth. I mean the

671
00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:23.880
people who are being radicalized. I mean they say, well

672
00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:26.679
they were radicalized here in No, they came in with

673
00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:30.440
a level of radicalization because look where they came from.

674
00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:32.360
They came from countries that were lawless.

675
00:38:32.559 --> 00:38:34.000
What did you expect all of a sudden they were

676
00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:35.800
going to come to America and be law abiding.

677
00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:39.400
Well, especially not when the first act in our country

678
00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:42.320
is breaking our law. We're telling them it's okay to

679
00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:46.320
not follow the law and that's completely unacceptable, and that

680
00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:50.679
happened throughout the entirety of the Biden administration. Thankfully, President

681
00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:54.280
Trump has that under control now at the border, but

682
00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:57.519
we still have this massive issue with the people who

683
00:38:57.639 --> 00:38:59.239
entered unlawfully, and.

684
00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:03.079
It starts with leaders Leadership has to has to project

685
00:39:03.119 --> 00:39:06.800
that change and that new standard here in America that

686
00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:08.360
is win win for all concerned.

687
00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:10.840
Right, that is exactly right.

688
00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:14.559
And I think that we see that kind of leadership

689
00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:15.719
with President Trump, and.

690
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:19.239
We see it with we see it with people on

691
00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:20.400
both sides of the aisle.

692
00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:22.880
We could say that we see that with John Fetterman.

693
00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:26.840
He is certainly a leader in trying to help Americans

694
00:39:26.880 --> 00:39:30.199
see we can have political disagreements and also still treat

695
00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:33.880
each other with the respect we deserve as fellow Americans.

696
00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:38.639
And there are other politicians on the right as well

697
00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:42.960
who do that. But we we need to look for

698
00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:46.119
those leaders, and we need to be those leaders ourselves.

699
00:39:46.360 --> 00:39:49.199
We may never be president of the United States, but

700
00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:52.000
we all can be a leader in our own circle

701
00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:54.199
of influence, and we need to do so, and we

702
00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:55.599
need to lead by example.

703
00:39:55.880 --> 00:39:58.719
And that doesn't mean we're not gonna we're gonna send.

704
00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:01.639
We're going to make a mistakes, We're going to fall,

705
00:40:01.960 --> 00:40:04.679
but then you get back up, you acknowledge it, you'll

706
00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:07.280
learn from it, and you keep striving to do better.

707
00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:10.320
It's okay to apologize, right, Jennybeth.

708
00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:11.880
Absolutely, you got it.

709
00:40:12.400 --> 00:40:14.199
We got to leave it there. Merry Christmas to you

710
00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:17.239
and your family. Thank you so much. Hopefully mom's doing

711
00:40:17.239 --> 00:40:17.599
better now.

712
00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:20.079
Huh, yes she is, thank you so much.

713
00:40:20.199 --> 00:40:22.760
Good. Where can they go? For more information?

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Hey, good morning, welcome back Bill Martinez here. Great to

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have you with us.

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Also great to have Jeremy back to co president of

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Numbers Usay, Hey, Jeremy, good morning.

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Always good to be with you.

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Bill, Good morning to you.

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It's all beginning to look a lot like Christmas, isn't

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it It is.

799
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I got snow outside my window.

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My kids are loving it.

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Well, I'm in Florida, so we're just getting wind and

802
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you know, a little bit to reign, so we can't

803
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complain much. But anyway, it's the season with all that's happening.

804
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You know, some highlights, low lights, some dangers that are

805
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out there. And you know, last week we were talking

806
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about our immigration system and you know, kind of trying

807
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to figure out what is the right number that you know,

808
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our government can handle, because it seems that we're somewhere

809
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between maybe one point five two million. We're still trying

810
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to process anywhere from fifteen to twenty million illegals that

811
00:45:35.800 --> 00:45:38.079
came in, and it just seems like the system is

812
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just gravely overwhelmed. And this in spite of President Trump

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just shutting down the border and saying, hey, for right now,

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nobody is coming across anymore.

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Right.

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It's a really good point for people to remember, and

817
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of course people who are in these receiving communities they

818
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don't need reminders. But you know, the border has more

819
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or less been shut down as far as illegal immigration goes,

820
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but we still have millions of people, people who were

821
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released into the country, who were not admissible into the country,

822
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and we still have to deal with them and the

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ramifications of them.

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They need they need food.

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And shelter, and they're looking for work, often illegal work.

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They need the raw materials that it takes to support

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a life in the United States. It's a tremendous burden

828
00:46:19.239 --> 00:46:21.639
on the local communities and we're still sifting through that,

829
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:25.159
and all of that is really, frankly a distraction from

830
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the long term picture, which is, how do we set

831
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our immigration limits at a level that we can sustain

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and feel very good about the people that we are

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admitting and the fact that they've been vetted and that

834
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we can handle. We can handle the inflow. So it

835
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really does for us. It comes down to the numbers,

836
00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:45.480
and that is a big question.

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00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:47.960
Yeah, you know, you and I can sit in with

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our audience and talk reasonably about this and say, okay,

839
00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:54.679
what's the ideal. But yet there's such an aggressive faction

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00:46:54.800 --> 00:46:57.599
out there that doesn't want to sit down and talk

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about this stuff.

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All they want to do.

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Is complain and be agitators on this whole issue and

844
00:47:03.599 --> 00:47:06.280
not arrive at any kind of solution, but yet act

845
00:47:06.360 --> 00:47:09.920
like they're somehow trying to capture the higher ground.

846
00:47:09.719 --> 00:47:11.800
On these issues. It's very frustrating.

847
00:47:12.159 --> 00:47:16.920
It is frustrating. I'm optimistic. It's December. I'm optimistic. You know,

848
00:47:17.679 --> 00:47:21.519
the Biden administration had this attitude. This was reported recently

849
00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:23.280
in the New York Times that you know, the New

850
00:47:23.360 --> 00:47:26.559
York Times bombshell story that said the Biden administration messed

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up immigration.

852
00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:28.679
Right, Oh my god.

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It's a newsflash. But it's a pretty in depth reporting

854
00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:36.360
and it shows, among other things, that at its core,

855
00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:40.599
it wasn't just incompetence, although there was some incompetence, there

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was a belief system, a belief structure inside the administration

857
00:47:44.760 --> 00:47:48.800
that really felt at its core that borders were illegitimate,

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00:47:48.960 --> 00:47:53.000
that immigration limits were immoral, and they just they just

859
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didn't feel good about enforcing the law or setting any

860
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kind of limits. And so we had we had an

861
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administration and an immigration system for four years whose idea

862
00:48:04.760 --> 00:48:07.599
was our job is to let in as many people

863
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as possible, because that's the right thing to do. That

864
00:48:10.079 --> 00:48:11.760
was that was sort of at the heart of it.

865
00:48:12.199 --> 00:48:14.840
And the problem, of course is you and I know,

866
00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:18.400
and as the country discovered, is that the demand to

867
00:48:18.440 --> 00:48:22.159
get into the United States far outstrips our capacity.

868
00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:25.559
But they knew that beforehand, Jeremy, I mean, how many

869
00:48:25.719 --> 00:48:26.320
how many people?

870
00:48:26.400 --> 00:48:27.320
How many millions of people?

871
00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:29.000
I think it was a survey years ago they took

872
00:48:29.119 --> 00:48:31.239
said how many people would want to come to the

873
00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:32.039
United States.

874
00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:34.480
I mean it's overwhelming. I mean so it's like, what

875
00:48:34.519 --> 00:48:35.199
were they thinking.

876
00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:37.440
Listen, you don't Yeah, you don't have to convince me.

877
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:39.119
I mean, this is how bad it was. In the

878
00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:43.199
In the Biden administration, you had the former vice president

879
00:48:43.400 --> 00:48:48.760
of Larraza, which is basically an open borders organization, advising

880
00:48:48.800 --> 00:48:51.239
the President that his policies had gone too far towards

881
00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:55.000
open borders. I mean she, you know, Celia Munos, who

882
00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:57.280
was you know, a major thorn on the side of

883
00:48:57.320 --> 00:49:01.000
restrictionists over the years. She works in the Obama administration,

884
00:49:01.079 --> 00:49:03.639
but she she was one of the people raising the

885
00:49:03.679 --> 00:49:05.679
alarm saying we are going to we are going to

886
00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:07.480
be swamped with people and we're not.

887
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:08.599
Going to be able to handle it.

888
00:49:08.599 --> 00:49:11.400
There will be chaos, and this will have political ramifications

889
00:49:11.639 --> 00:49:13.960
as well as you know, ramifications for the interior of

890
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:17.880
the country for Americans. It was her Her calls went unheeded,

891
00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:19.599
her warnings went unheard.

892
00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:24.199
Well, look at the communities that she represents, Jeremy. She

893
00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:26.920
knows the impact was going to be felt by these

894
00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:28.679
local communities immediately.

895
00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:31.760
I mean, it didn't take a genius to figure that out.

896
00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:35.199
But like you said, the fixed ideology of some of

897
00:49:35.239 --> 00:49:38.159
those that didn't care, or maybe they just felt like, hey,

898
00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:40.800
it's unfair. You know, we've been so blessed, you know,

899
00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:43.639
I mean, you get this, this white privileged attitude that

900
00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:47.280
has overwhelmed our country. It's causing people to make ridiculous

901
00:49:47.320 --> 00:49:48.960
decisions and conclusions here.

902
00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:49.880
And that's fine.

903
00:49:49.880 --> 00:49:52.480
Look at if you feel guilty for any kind of

904
00:49:52.519 --> 00:49:55.480
white privilege and and that's what you want to have

905
00:49:55.519 --> 00:49:56.400
in your household.

906
00:49:56.639 --> 00:49:57.559
Hey, that's okay.

907
00:49:58.119 --> 00:50:04.079
But to force that ideology on the rest of America,

908
00:50:04.280 --> 00:50:06.000
I think seems to be imprudent.

909
00:50:06.960 --> 00:50:11.840
Well, imprudent is putting it kindly. It's misplaced compassion. But

910
00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:14.960
regardless of the motivations, I mean, I don't believe that

911
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:19.360
the people inside the Biden administration were hoping to resurrect

912
00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:23.000
a child labor catastrophe that we hadn't seen since the

913
00:50:23.039 --> 00:50:25.639
days of Upton Sinclair's The Jungle, but they did. I

914
00:50:25.639 --> 00:50:28.800
don't think they meant to lose hundreds of thousands of

915
00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:31.639
kids and put them in the hands of sponsors, quote

916
00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:35.320
unquote sponsors, many of whom were here not related to them,

917
00:50:35.440 --> 00:50:38.239
human traffickers, but they did. I don't think they meant

918
00:50:38.239 --> 00:50:43.480
to swamp hospitals and schools and small towns with these burdens,

919
00:50:43.559 --> 00:50:47.000
but they did. I don't think they mean the purveyors

920
00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:49.719
of legal immigration, which we're going to talk about here.

921
00:50:50.199 --> 00:50:54.039
I don't think they mean to rob the working class

922
00:50:54.039 --> 00:50:56.159
of five hundred billion dollars every year.

923
00:50:56.039 --> 00:50:56.760
But they do.

924
00:50:56.920 --> 00:51:00.280
That's what our legal system does on autopilot. Because those

925
00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:02.840
numbers are way too high. A lot of it is

926
00:51:02.920 --> 00:51:06.920
misplaced compassion. There of course is some greed involved. Some

927
00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:10.280
people do get wealthy off of mass immigration, and some

928
00:51:10.280 --> 00:51:13.079
people do gain power from mass immigration, and those two

929
00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:15.920
are obviously factors. But I think a lot of it,

930
00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:18.599
at least if you read this New York Times story

931
00:51:18.599 --> 00:51:21.280
the background, a lot of it was really just absolute

932
00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:24.079
and misplaced compassion. It was sort of leading with the heart,

933
00:51:24.119 --> 00:51:26.960
but just turning off the brain. And you know, when

934
00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:28.519
you turn off the brain, the heart can do some

935
00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:30.480
really awful things in the name of compassion.

936
00:51:30.960 --> 00:51:32.679
Well, and the air thing too is just in our

937
00:51:32.719 --> 00:51:38.039
own humanity, we can be pretty squirrely. And as you said,

938
00:51:38.440 --> 00:51:41.559
you know when you talk about greed and power, whoa,

939
00:51:41.679 --> 00:51:45.800
those are two powerful agents, and people do that which

940
00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:48.599
they get rewarded for. And there was a system to

941
00:51:48.719 --> 00:51:52.719
reward this malbehavior and get us to this point.

942
00:51:54.360 --> 00:51:58.719
I mean, it's really so paradoxical.

943
00:51:58.000 --> 00:52:02.519
On so many ways, me because you know, you want,

944
00:52:02.679 --> 00:52:06.000
you want to think better of your fellow citizen, to think, well,

945
00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:09.800
why would you do something so diabolical. It's not even

946
00:52:10.039 --> 00:52:13.599
you know, really considerate of the immigrant. It's unfair, you know,

947
00:52:13.599 --> 00:52:16.920
It's like saying Okay, honey, we're going to have dinner tonight.

948
00:52:17.119 --> 00:52:21.119
And how many people can we place around the table. Well,

949
00:52:21.159 --> 00:52:22.719
we've got seating for eight people.

950
00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:23.400
We can do eight.

951
00:52:23.760 --> 00:52:26.760
Oh, let's go ahead and let's invite thirty people over.

952
00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:28.079
Right, right?

953
00:52:28.599 --> 00:52:31.440
Yeah, and and you know some yeah, it's and somebody

954
00:52:31.519 --> 00:52:34.559
ends up having some indignity. Now maybe you know the

955
00:52:34.559 --> 00:52:37.840
the idea is that well, hey, no matter no matter

956
00:52:37.880 --> 00:52:41.559
how much of a of a just a poor, destitute,

957
00:52:41.920 --> 00:52:44.719
tough living conditions they have in America, many of them

958
00:52:44.719 --> 00:52:46.119
are going to be better off than they are in

959
00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:48.960
their home countries. But what you're doing is you're creating

960
00:52:49.000 --> 00:52:52.960
a permanent lower class in America, a permanent servant class. Really,

961
00:52:53.159 --> 00:52:56.039
It's true. It's true some people, especially their kids. This

962
00:52:56.119 --> 00:52:58.400
is a part of our immigrant tradition. You know, they

963
00:52:58.800 --> 00:53:01.480
rise up and over generations, you know, you build up,

964
00:53:01.679 --> 00:53:05.639
but you're constantly replacing them with this new almost indentured

965
00:53:05.719 --> 00:53:09.320
ser servitude class so that we can, you know, get

966
00:53:09.360 --> 00:53:13.280
our tables busted for poverty wages. It's it's a tough

967
00:53:13.360 --> 00:53:14.599
trade off to swallow, I.

968
00:53:14.559 --> 00:53:17.320
Think, right. Well, and the other question is asked at

969
00:53:17.320 --> 00:53:18.159
the expense.

970
00:53:17.840 --> 00:53:21.920
Of who that's it The great economist George Borjas said,

971
00:53:21.920 --> 00:53:25.239
when it comes to immigration policy, the question is who

972
00:53:25.239 --> 00:53:26.199
are you rooting for?

973
00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:27.199
Uh?

974
00:53:27.199 --> 00:53:29.400
And this is this is the beginning of wisdom, which

975
00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:32.079
is that there is no magic number, there is no

976
00:53:32.159 --> 00:53:35.360
magic formula. The question is is who do you want

977
00:53:35.400 --> 00:53:37.239
to who do you want to benefit? Who gets the

978
00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:41.719
profits and who pays the costs. Mass immigration privatizes the

979
00:53:41.760 --> 00:53:45.880
profits and it socializes the costs. And the burden is

980
00:53:46.079 --> 00:53:49.760
especially held on the working class, the people who work

981
00:53:49.800 --> 00:53:52.639
with their hands and their feet, who are up upstanding

982
00:53:52.760 --> 00:53:55.800
upright all day. And the investment class tends to benefit

983
00:53:55.840 --> 00:53:57.960
the people, you know, frankly like me who are sitting

984
00:53:57.960 --> 00:54:01.440
in front of a computer, andeople who are collecting dividends

985
00:54:01.480 --> 00:54:02.320
in the stock market.

986
00:54:02.360 --> 00:54:03.519
That's the class that that.

987
00:54:03.480 --> 00:54:06.159
Tends to benefit. You know, you don't You can do

988
00:54:06.239 --> 00:54:08.440
so much more important things with your life if you

989
00:54:08.480 --> 00:54:10.239
don't have to mow your own lawn or do your

990
00:54:10.280 --> 00:54:13.159
own dishes, or wash your own clothes, or watch your

991
00:54:13.239 --> 00:54:17.400
kids for that matter. And so the burden really does

992
00:54:17.440 --> 00:54:20.760
fall on the wage earners of society. And so the

993
00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:23.320
question is you know how many and how do you

994
00:54:23.440 --> 00:54:27.039
balance that immigration system? And one this came up. This

995
00:54:27.079 --> 00:54:29.320
is this is why I'm optimistic, is because we're not

996
00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:32.519
talking about whether or not we should just throw the

997
00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:35.159
borders wide open anymore right now. What we're talking about.

998
00:54:35.719 --> 00:54:36.159
As JD.

999
00:54:36.280 --> 00:54:38.360
Vance was asked at a recent Turning Points to the

1000
00:54:38.440 --> 00:54:42.960
USA event, what about legal immigration? What what is the

1001
00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:46.480
right number? And Advance, you know, what he said was, well,

1002
00:54:46.480 --> 00:54:50.079
it's complicated because there is really no no specific number.

1003
00:54:50.199 --> 00:54:52.599
Depends on the factors you're looking at. That's the way

1004
00:54:52.599 --> 00:54:55.400
Borhas would say, depends on who you're rooting for. What

1005
00:54:55.519 --> 00:54:57.639
Vance said was it's got to be way, way lower.

1006
00:54:57.960 --> 00:55:00.440
And I'll double down on that and just say that

1007
00:55:01.559 --> 00:55:05.159
ever since mass immigration was restarted sixty years ago by

1008
00:55:05.199 --> 00:55:08.800
the Immigration and Nationality Act of nineteen sixty five, inadvertently,

1009
00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:10.840
by the way, it was a mistake, but it's a

1010
00:55:10.840 --> 00:55:13.440
mistake that our policymakers have decided to keep.

1011
00:55:13.800 --> 00:55:14.880
But ever since then, so.

1012
00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:18.719
Many mistakes happened. During the Lyndon Baines Johnson by the way,

1013
00:55:18.760 --> 00:55:19.840
anyway go ahead.

1014
00:55:19.719 --> 00:55:21.960
That one's going to be up there.

1015
00:55:22.920 --> 00:55:27.280
So commission after commission through the latter half of the

1016
00:55:27.280 --> 00:55:31.400
twentieth century studied this for years. These are blue ribbon

1017
00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:35.880
federal bipartisan commission studied these things for years and they

1018
00:55:35.920 --> 00:55:38.440
came up with numbers and they basically said, those commissions

1019
00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:42.519
recommended annual immigration limits between three hundred and fifty thousand

1020
00:55:42.719 --> 00:55:45.559
and five hundred and fifty thousand a year. That's a

1021
00:55:45.559 --> 00:55:48.400
lot of people. That's very that's a very generous policy.

1022
00:55:48.440 --> 00:55:51.559
In fact, it's more. Yeah, it's more than we're coming

1023
00:55:51.639 --> 00:55:53.519
during the middle of the twentieth century, so it was

1024
00:55:53.639 --> 00:55:56.840
kind of an increase over our recent tradition. It's but

1025
00:55:56.880 --> 00:55:59.199
it's more than half. I mean, it's less than half

1026
00:55:59.199 --> 00:55:59.559
of what.

1027
00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:00.960
We have to do exactly.

1028
00:56:01.079 --> 00:56:04.400
That shows just how far out of whack we are

1029
00:56:04.559 --> 00:56:06.760
right now. And so as you and I are constantly

1030
00:56:06.760 --> 00:56:10.199
talking about just systems being overwhelmed, well, these things are

1031
00:56:10.199 --> 00:56:13.119
happening because we are running more than double the rate

1032
00:56:13.320 --> 00:56:16.800
recommended by every commission that has studied this. They've come

1033
00:56:16.880 --> 00:56:20.800
up with very similar recommendations. And by the way, the

1034
00:56:20.840 --> 00:56:23.079
breakdown is and this is where it gets. This is

1035
00:56:23.079 --> 00:56:25.400
where Jade Vans is saying is kind of complicated, and

1036
00:56:25.440 --> 00:56:28.119
Borja says, it depends on who you're rooting for. The

1037
00:56:28.159 --> 00:56:31.239
breakdown is right now because our foreign born population is

1038
00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:35.920
so high in America. If you believe, as my organization does,

1039
00:56:36.440 --> 00:56:39.840
that an American citizen should be able to marry whomever

1040
00:56:39.880 --> 00:56:42.719
they want overseas, and if you fall in love you

1041
00:56:42.719 --> 00:56:45.880
bring somebody from another country to be your spouse, then

1042
00:56:46.360 --> 00:56:48.119
you should be able to do that. There really shouldn't

1043
00:56:48.159 --> 00:56:49.559
be any limits to that. And you should also be

1044
00:56:49.599 --> 00:56:53.880
able to adopt the children that you want if you

1045
00:56:54.000 --> 00:56:57.599
just do that alone. Because of the demographics we have

1046
00:56:57.719 --> 00:57:00.320
right now, you're talking about five hundred thousand people year

1047
00:57:00.440 --> 00:57:03.920
just in family based, nuclear, family based immigration. So that

1048
00:57:04.159 --> 00:57:08.840
sets the level. And beyond that, it's because do you

1049
00:57:08.880 --> 00:57:13.559
want do you want some number of truly exceptional talents,

1050
00:57:13.639 --> 00:57:16.119
you know, just some Einstein level people to come in?

1051
00:57:16.280 --> 00:57:16.880
I think we do.

1052
00:57:17.199 --> 00:57:19.360
So what is that is that fifty thousand people a year?

1053
00:57:19.400 --> 00:57:21.920
Is it one hundred thousand people a year? And then finally,

1054
00:57:21.920 --> 00:57:24.559
the third, the third leg of the stool is refugees.

1055
00:57:24.719 --> 00:57:28.000
You know, what's the number the right number to permanently

1056
00:57:28.079 --> 00:57:31.000
resettle people who have no hope of ever returning to

1057
00:57:31.039 --> 00:57:34.119
their home countries. There's a discussion to be had there.

1058
00:57:34.559 --> 00:57:38.840
The latest commission said fifty thousand. Now, the refugee program,

1059
00:57:38.840 --> 00:57:40.880
as you and I know has a lot of problems

1060
00:57:40.960 --> 00:57:43.880
right now, so I would like to get the refugee

1061
00:57:43.920 --> 00:57:46.440
program in better shape before we start putting those kinds

1062
00:57:46.440 --> 00:57:49.800
of numbers on it. But those are the recommendations. And again,

1063
00:57:49.880 --> 00:57:53.519
this isn't this isn't a conservative think tank or liberal

1064
00:57:53.599 --> 00:57:56.199
think tank. This is you know, federal commissions, and they've

1065
00:57:56.199 --> 00:57:59.679
all been pretty consistent, and we are way way past

1066
00:57:59.800 --> 00:58:00.639
the numbers.

1067
00:58:01.079 --> 00:58:04.280
Well, Jeremy Beck, Hey, we're gonna have to continue this conversation.

1068
00:58:04.320 --> 00:58:08.440
I think we've gone down a chapter here that needs

1069
00:58:08.480 --> 00:58:14.119
to be dealt with and examined further, and you've brought

1070
00:58:14.159 --> 00:58:17.079
some great insight to it. So we'll continue this the

1071
00:58:17.159 --> 00:58:19.800
next time we get together. Jeremy back, the co president

1072
00:58:19.840 --> 00:58:21.840
of Numbers USA. Thank you, Jeremy, take care of Merry

1073
00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:22.440
Christmas to you.

1074
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1097
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Hey, Good morning, six minutes after the top of the hour.

1098
00:59:39.800 --> 00:59:42.719
Right now, Bill Martinez here with Scott Powell from the Discovery.

1099
00:59:42.320 --> 00:59:44.920
Institute and author and speaker. Thanks Scott, how are you doing?

1100
00:59:44.960 --> 00:59:45.360
Good morning?

1101
00:59:45.519 --> 00:59:46.679
I'm well, Bill, how are you?

1102
00:59:47.079 --> 00:59:47.280
Hey?

1103
00:59:47.320 --> 00:59:49.960
I'm doing terrific and I've been looking forward to this

1104
00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:52.159
opportunity to talk to you because I think you know

1105
00:59:52.400 --> 00:59:54.519
you and I have been focusing a lot on the

1106
00:59:54.559 --> 00:59:58.960
Constitution and you know, you know, on the origins of

1107
00:59:58.960 --> 01:00:02.679
our country, and that really is something that we need

1108
01:00:02.719 --> 01:00:07.920
to you know, keep in front of us constantly lest

1109
01:00:07.960 --> 01:00:12.039
we forget. Donald Trump is, you know, traveling now across

1110
01:00:12.079 --> 01:00:18.039
the country talking about affordability, you know, which he probably thinks, Okay.

1111
01:00:17.760 --> 01:00:19.679
Well, why am I dealing with this issue?

1112
01:00:20.079 --> 01:00:23.679
Because you know, Joe Biden in the previous administration had

1113
01:00:23.719 --> 01:00:29.920
done so much in damaging our country's economy, our national

1114
01:00:29.960 --> 01:00:33.440
security on so many levels, our border certainly, and it

1115
01:00:33.559 --> 01:00:37.800
just seems so common sensical. But the issue is is

1116
01:00:37.840 --> 01:00:42.280
that you got the mainstream media constantly be rating and

1117
01:00:42.440 --> 01:00:46.679
resisting Donald Trump and the agenda, along with the Democrats,

1118
01:00:47.039 --> 01:00:51.000
and they're just flat out misrepresenting and deceiving the public.

1119
01:00:51.719 --> 01:00:52.519
When I had.

1120
01:00:52.360 --> 01:00:55.719
Consulted with CEOs across the country for many years, the

1121
01:00:55.760 --> 01:00:58.039
thing that I always told them is that you have

1122
01:00:58.119 --> 01:01:00.960
to keep the mission of the company up front all

1123
01:01:01.000 --> 01:01:03.639
the time. Every time you meet with your staff, you

1124
01:01:03.719 --> 01:01:07.280
have to remind them why you're here, what's your reason

1125
01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:11.199
to exist, and where you're going. And Donald Trump is

1126
01:01:11.239 --> 01:01:14.199
starting to do that again, and that's absolutely key as

1127
01:01:14.239 --> 01:01:17.599
the chief executive officers to get people again to realize

1128
01:01:17.639 --> 01:01:21.480
what the dream is and also to see that we're

1129
01:01:21.599 --> 01:01:23.320
making we're making inroads.

1130
01:01:23.360 --> 01:01:25.360
It's not like he's just saying, hey, give me.

1131
01:01:25.320 --> 01:01:27.159
Another ten years and we'll be able to do this.

1132
01:01:27.280 --> 01:01:29.960
I mean you're already seeing. I mean, we had an

1133
01:01:29.960 --> 01:01:32.159
egg problem. He goes, we have an egg problem.

1134
01:01:32.199 --> 01:01:32.960
He didn't think.

1135
01:01:32.840 --> 01:01:35.320
About having an egg problem when he first got into office.

1136
01:01:35.480 --> 01:01:38.960
But look how long it took you know, Brooke Rollins

1137
01:01:38.960 --> 01:01:43.239
and the FDA to do something about it. And now

1138
01:01:43.360 --> 01:01:46.280
you know, egg prices are you know, they're affordable again.

1139
01:01:46.679 --> 01:01:49.679
But I mean it was crazy when he got into office, right,

1140
01:01:49.880 --> 01:01:52.719
just as one simple example, not to mention example.

1141
01:01:53.360 --> 01:02:01.079
Yes, yes, yeah, you know. The Constitution is a remarkable document.

1142
01:02:01.199 --> 01:02:04.559
I think everyone needs to be reminded that America was

1143
01:02:04.679 --> 01:02:09.400
the first country in all of human history. Think about that.

1144
01:02:10.519 --> 01:02:13.679
Think about being the first country in all of six

1145
01:02:13.760 --> 01:02:18.159
thousand years of recorded to human history. Of course, six

1146
01:02:18.199 --> 01:02:21.000
thousand maybe is stretching it on really really good recording.

1147
01:02:21.039 --> 01:02:26.159
But before Christ from you know, from you know, from

1148
01:02:26.199 --> 01:02:30.320
Moses Hahn, there's a pretty good recorded history. And there

1149
01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:34.159
was never a government that put the sovereignty in the

1150
01:02:34.199 --> 01:02:36.679
hands of the people. There was there was not a

1151
01:02:36.719 --> 01:02:43.840
government that looked to the people to to not only govern,

1152
01:02:44.639 --> 01:02:47.960
but to establish what their rights were, what their God

1153
01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:52.599
given rights were. That rights really came from God, not

1154
01:02:52.760 --> 01:02:57.880
the government. All other systems always basically put all the

1155
01:02:58.000 --> 01:03:02.000
power in the hand the government, and the government determine

1156
01:03:02.039 --> 01:03:06.519
what your rights were, right, Yeah, So for Americans, our rights.

1157
01:03:06.559 --> 01:03:08.599
Yeah, and here it is, you've got now the consent

1158
01:03:08.679 --> 01:03:11.199
of the governed. I mean, this really turned everything on

1159
01:03:11.280 --> 01:03:12.199
its head, didn't it.

1160
01:03:12.199 --> 01:03:15.360
It did, absolutely, But it's a it's a it's it's

1161
01:03:15.400 --> 01:03:19.199
a fragile system simply because there are bad actors that

1162
01:03:19.280 --> 01:03:26.280
will subvert a free society and they're you know, it's

1163
01:03:26.320 --> 01:03:31.239
problematic for an affluent country to remain vigilant because affluence

1164
01:03:31.360 --> 01:03:34.800
breeds a couple of things. One is that people begin

1165
01:03:34.920 --> 01:03:38.639
to think that the blessings that they have, that they've

1166
01:03:38.639 --> 01:03:42.199
achieved in their life came from themselves, right, and they

1167
01:03:42.239 --> 01:03:43.719
don't they don't really need God.

1168
01:03:44.960 --> 01:03:48.239
Yeah, and we see and we see historically every time

1169
01:03:48.719 --> 01:03:52.280
arrogance and greed comes into play, God's judgment falls on

1170
01:03:52.320 --> 01:03:55.800
their pumpkin head. And uh, you know these are you know,

1171
01:03:55.920 --> 01:03:58.320
past warnings, you know, and something that needs to be

1172
01:03:58.400 --> 01:04:01.480
remembered in the current day, right it does.

1173
01:04:01.639 --> 01:04:05.639
Yeah, I mean I don't you know, one could argue that,

1174
01:04:05.719 --> 01:04:08.239
you know, God is punishing America. I don't. I don't

1175
01:04:08.280 --> 01:04:11.039
just know. I think that reality is that when you

1176
01:04:11.159 --> 01:04:14.159
when you step away from God, you lose his protection

1177
01:04:15.039 --> 01:04:18.480
and then the bad actors can really have more influence

1178
01:04:18.920 --> 01:04:21.840
and control on the outcome of things. And that's what

1179
01:04:21.840 --> 01:04:24.239
we've seen in America, as we know.

1180
01:04:24.719 --> 01:04:26.239
The way I look at it is God is that

1181
01:04:27.039 --> 01:04:30.559
sometimes I don't think that God is you know, maybe

1182
01:04:30.880 --> 01:04:35.039
directly punishing as much as it is that God has

1183
01:04:35.159 --> 01:04:40.199
established universal law in his in his construct of creation.

1184
01:04:40.760 --> 01:04:42.039
It's kind of like gravity.

1185
01:04:42.360 --> 01:04:46.320
Right, there's law gravity, there's certain laws that are built

1186
01:04:46.320 --> 01:04:49.360
into the system, and if you violate those laws, you'll

1187
01:04:49.360 --> 01:04:53.280
be punished by the universal force of his design.

1188
01:04:54.000 --> 01:04:57.079
That's right, he says, Well said, Bill Well said, And

1189
01:04:57.440 --> 01:04:57.960
that's the way.

1190
01:04:58.000 --> 01:04:59.000
That's the way I look at it.

1191
01:04:59.039 --> 01:05:02.599
So that yes, because I think that if we continue

1192
01:05:02.639 --> 01:05:05.840
in this and certainly God has interceded in times of

1193
01:05:05.920 --> 01:05:08.320
history when he says, hey, look at you guys want

1194
01:05:08.320 --> 01:05:11.000
to continue to defy gravity and do all these stupid things.

1195
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So now let's see if you can hear me, and

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he comes in and levels his righteous judgment because God

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is just and right, and he can only tolerate this

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even in his long suffering, only so long.

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And you know, many.

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People feel that we've really you know, have are really

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asking God, you know, for consequences here, you know, And

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and we may not get disappointed, because we deserve the

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consequences of the sins that we have committed.

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Absolutely, and when you when you really take full stock

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of the assaults on the American people, they are so manyfold.

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You know, we have you know, we have a threat.

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You know, our primary geo strategic threat to is is China,

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but we have threats from the south from we're now

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learning a lot more how Venezuela is really a locusts

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of narco terrorism.

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Uh yeah, well said I like that locus.

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Yes, you're right, yeah, uh, you know, and not only

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narco terrorism, but they're the locusts of international vote fraud

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exactly out of Venezuela.

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Right.

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So, and and then of course we've got you know,

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we we've we've got you know, the problem that we

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face now is that we're having internal subversion. We brought

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in so many illegal aliens. If you will illegal immigrants

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who really don't have necessarily an affinity for America and

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simply simply want to abuse the system. I mean, the

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huge number of Somalis that got that came into Minnesota.

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They they came in legally. You know, for the most part,

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there's some illegal yeah there. You know, because of George Bush.

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You know, we we opened up the gates, said okay, uh,

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there're a persecuted class.

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We're gonna let him hear.

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But you know, the silly thing about it all in

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which Trump brought up, you know again in a common

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sensical perspective, is saying, you've got to consider where these

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people came from.

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I mean, they came from a lawless nation. Now you're

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going to bring them into a country that believes in

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law and order. I mean, this is like the wrong gospel,

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wrong church.

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And it's not like they're coming in and saying, Okay,

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look at I'm gonna swear allegiance to America and I'm

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gonna suddenly, you know, change my evil ways and I'm

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gonna be I'm going to be lawful.

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I'm gonna be right. Well, I think I heard a

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statement by home in about half the Somalis in Minnesota

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are illegal. Okay, A lot more have come in since

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the legal wave came in.

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Through uh, through Bush.

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Yes, yeah, and it's it's it's it's a major problem

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because the bid the Biden years really exacerbated, uh, the

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illegal population in the Maria kind of was done for

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many reasons. It was done to change the demographics of

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the vote. The Democrats were confident that they could win

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that eventually they'd become voters and they'd vote Democrat because

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it was the Democrats that got them into the country

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and gave them all these freebies and these rights, right right, So.

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As if we could afford it at thirty eight trillion

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dollars in debt in counting.

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Right, Oh, I know, don't don't get me started.

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Yeah, I know.

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This is just well, you know, this is what fires

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Scott Cowell, Senior Fellow Discovery Institute is timeless book that

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we've been braying about, rediscover Rediscovering America. I'll stuff it

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in a stocking for Christmas, you know, share it with

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your family. You will be greatly blessed because you know,

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Scott addresses you know, national holidays in the book, which

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which is the woof and wharf in so many ways

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and miraculous stories. I mean, because you know, everything about

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America is just a living miracle, isn't it, Scott?

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It really is.

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And the reason that I wrote the book, the book

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is really about American history from the vantage point of

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God's hand in American history from the very beginning, from

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Columbus who discovered the New World, who opened up colonization,

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and then we had the Reformation that took place in

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the early fifteen hundreds that transformed Christianity, and it was

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the reformed Christians who felt a calling to go to

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the New World, and they likened, they likened their coming

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to America, at least the Pilgrims and the Puritans to

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the Israelites as fleeing the bondage of Egypt to go

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into the Promised Land. They ma had the same language,

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the same vision. And so it was that the early colonies,

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you know, established the foundation for what came after that.

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So all the thirteen Colonies were founded on Christian principles,

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every single one of them. Christianity was part of the culture,

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part of the early culture of America, and that culture

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was one of them, was probably the most productive culture

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in human history. I mean the progress that was made economically,

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industrial revolutions, scientific discovery, and so forth. It was on

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steroids in America through the eighteen hundreds into the nineteen hundreds.

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And you know, we still are a country of great innovation.

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But you know, now we face real problems international sovereignty

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because we've departed from God. We've driven God out of

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our culture. So I think in solving our problems. You know,

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one of the most important things we can do is

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bringing about a spiritual awakening, a spiritual revival, if you will,

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uh and uh, you know, it was very powerful. We

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never could have defeated the British in the War of

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Independence were it not for the great Awakening that preceded

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that engagement.

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There was no way that the.

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The Ragtag, underfunded, undertrained, uh you know, uh, fewer in number. Uh,

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you know, continental army could take on the greatest military

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power in the world. But we did, and and.

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We won, and we won.

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We ended up winning. So God's hand was in that.

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But but we we desperately need a return to you know,

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to an awareness that God is watching over us. You know,

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if people feel that, uh, they that God is watching them,

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they have a relationship with God, then they automatically do

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the right thing in many circumstances. When you drive God

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out of the culture, then there's no inhibition and there

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aren't enough laws and regulations to keep everybody, you know,

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honest and aligned. You really need a cultural spiritual support

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that people feel and so they do the right thing

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even when no one is looking exactly.

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Yeah.

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Well, the thing is is that you know, until the

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people realize there is a God, that he does love

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you and he cares for you, and there's clear evidence.

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You know, historically, you go through as you just mentioned,

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you go through the history of this great country, and

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you see God's hand on this country time and time again.

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But you need to be able to see it for

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yourselves individually. This requires individual responsibility. You know, I can't

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argue you in the heaven. All I can do is

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point to the evidence of our you know, of our

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presentation here to you say why God?

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You know?

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And and when you when you.

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Can see it and realize that it's more than why God,

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that you need God desperately, then you will turn from

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your wicked ways and you'll realize what is going on here.

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I mean, it's the age old battle that started when

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we were kicked out of the garden of Eden, and

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that is a war against good and evil, and good

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01:18:24.920 --> 01:18:28.079
and evil exists today and that's what it is. You

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01:18:28.199 --> 01:18:30.760
either are going to be good, which is you're on

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01:18:30.800 --> 01:18:34.399
the side of God, or you're on evil. And you say,

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I know some people may rackle a little bit when

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01:18:37.600 --> 01:18:39.560
you say you know the side of the devil. Well,

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01:18:39.600 --> 01:18:41.920
I didn't see myself as being the side the devil. Well,

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01:18:42.479 --> 01:18:45.159
you're not on the side of God. So whether you

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01:18:45.520 --> 01:18:47.960
say you don't want to be on Satan's side or

1441
01:18:48.000 --> 01:18:52.159
the devil's side, if you're not with God, you're against him.

1442
01:18:52.479 --> 01:18:55.479
Yes, yes, there's really not a it's not a neutral

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01:18:55.880 --> 01:18:59.359
not a neutral growth because of spiritual influence. That's that's

1444
01:18:59.439 --> 01:19:03.239
the true influence is very real. So when we're aligned

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01:19:03.279 --> 01:19:06.680
with with with God, you know, we get the benefit

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01:19:06.880 --> 01:19:10.279
of good spiritual influence and.

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01:19:10.319 --> 01:19:17.039
All this stuff, I mean, brilliant ideas, innovation, maximization of resources,

1448
01:19:17.079 --> 01:19:20.039
all that. These are all blessings from God. When you

1449
01:19:20.119 --> 01:19:23.079
do it on your own, there's holes in your pocket,

1450
01:19:23.479 --> 01:19:26.159
you know, resources are falling out your pockets and your

1451
01:19:26.439 --> 01:19:28.119
penny loafers and everything, right.

1452
01:19:28.000 --> 01:19:33.399
Scott, Yes, but I would remind everyone that, you know,

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01:19:33.560 --> 01:19:37.720
for those who still are skeptical, you know, you know,

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01:19:38.159 --> 01:19:42.039
God created us to find meaning and fulfillment in our lives,

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01:19:42.039 --> 01:19:46.079
and he created us uniquely. Everyone is very different, so

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01:19:46.119 --> 01:19:49.119
we all have different talents and different aspirations and so forth,

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01:19:49.159 --> 01:19:51.560
and the mixture of all of that is what makes

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for a very dynamic creative society.

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01:19:54.760 --> 01:19:56.800
But God, when you're when you're free when you're free

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01:19:56.840 --> 01:19:59.880
to express that said giftings and talents.

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01:20:00.119 --> 01:20:00.640
That's right.

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01:20:00.800 --> 01:20:04.039
Yes, it's all based on freedom. He created us to

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01:20:04.079 --> 01:20:09.560
be free and he intends for us to find meaningfulfillment

1464
01:20:09.640 --> 01:20:13.680
and joy. I would remind everybody everybody thinks that, you know,

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01:20:13.720 --> 01:20:15.960
life is all about the pursuit of happiness. That's in

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01:20:15.960 --> 01:20:20.199
the Declaration of Independence, and it is true. But I

1467
01:20:20.279 --> 01:20:23.600
like the word joy better because happiness is fleeting, you.

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01:20:23.520 --> 01:20:25.479
Know, based on a happening.

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01:20:26.000 --> 01:20:29.439
Right, But when you you know, when when your life

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is in order and you feel the presence of God

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01:20:31.880 --> 01:20:35.520
in your life, you experience peace and joy that stays

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with you. And it isn't that you won't have challenges,

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01:20:39.800 --> 01:20:42.119
but you've been able to deal with them knowing that

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01:20:42.159 --> 01:20:44.760
there's another side to that. And then it's just one

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01:20:44.800 --> 01:20:47.680
more phase of the training that God puts us through.

1476
01:20:48.159 --> 01:20:51.680
We get trained through difficulties in life. I mean, you

1477
01:20:51.720 --> 01:20:55.119
look at all the Old Testament figures. God put each

1478
01:20:55.199 --> 01:21:00.199
one of them through crisis and trial periods because they

1479
01:21:00.239 --> 01:21:02.680
needed to be trained. God was going to then use

1480
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them after it had grown through their trials. And so

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01:21:06.239 --> 01:21:10.279
when we have trials, recognized that it is really part

1482
01:21:10.319 --> 01:21:12.000
of the training so that we can go on to

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greater things.

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Yeah.

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01:21:13.720 --> 01:21:16.319
Well, you know this is why James says, consider it

1486
01:21:16.359 --> 01:21:20.199
all joy whenever you face trials of all sorts, right,

1487
01:21:20.720 --> 01:21:23.840
and because that's what gets you through that trial, is

1488
01:21:23.880 --> 01:21:26.439
that you know, the joy of the Lord is my strength,

1489
01:21:26.520 --> 01:21:32.079
you know. And again another just nugget from the Word

1490
01:21:32.119 --> 01:21:35.279
of God that when you've lived that out and you

1491
01:21:35.359 --> 01:21:39.560
realize that you can have joy when you're in the deepest,

1492
01:21:39.720 --> 01:21:42.920
darkest part of a valley, right and you're faced with

1493
01:21:43.000 --> 01:21:45.520
the shadow of death and you still have joy. And

1494
01:21:45.520 --> 01:21:47.560
then everybody else is looking at you and going, are

1495
01:21:47.600 --> 01:21:48.399
you out of your mind?

1496
01:21:48.399 --> 01:21:48.760
Scott?

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01:21:50.560 --> 01:21:53.399
And you go, I think I am. I think I

1498
01:21:53.439 --> 01:21:55.840
am out of my mind. I'm out of my mind

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01:21:55.880 --> 01:21:57.319
for God because I love him.

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Yeah.

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01:21:58.479 --> 01:22:03.239
Well, with visual awaking and revival, the best years are

1502
01:22:03.279 --> 01:22:07.720
ahead of us. Remember that they really are, you know,

1503
01:22:08.880 --> 01:22:11.800
you know, the evil one would want to convince us

1504
01:22:11.840 --> 01:22:16.199
that those years are gone, that we need a transformation

1505
01:22:16.359 --> 01:22:19.840
of our you know, of our society. That the next

1506
01:22:19.840 --> 01:22:24.840
stage for humanity is really a new global order, a secular, progressive,

1507
01:22:25.399 --> 01:22:28.880
AI driven global order that's going to be hell on Earth.

1508
01:22:28.960 --> 01:22:29.439
Let me tell you.

1509
01:22:29.960 --> 01:22:32.359
Yeah, well it will come.

1510
01:22:33.039 --> 01:22:36.199
The Bible says that it will come, and you already

1511
01:22:36.199 --> 01:22:41.159
see the infrastructure have said global order out there being

1512
01:22:41.239 --> 01:22:45.399
laid out. And so in the meanwhile, here we are today,

1513
01:22:46.000 --> 01:22:49.119
and we can be the fortification of this particular era

1514
01:22:49.239 --> 01:22:52.840
in this time with this generation, to again remind them

1515
01:22:53.159 --> 01:22:56.439
of what their anchor is, and their anchor is God himself,

1516
01:22:56.439 --> 01:22:59.479
God Almighty, who loves them dearly and has got a

1517
01:22:59.479 --> 01:23:01.720
great plan and purpose for each of us to get

1518
01:23:01.760 --> 01:23:05.039
us through these inevitable storms that we'll be facing.

1519
01:23:05.119 --> 01:23:09.880
Right, that's right, absolutely, Bill, Yeah, absolutely, Well, you know,

1520
01:23:10.000 --> 01:23:12.640
and the thing is is God like Scott and I

1521
01:23:12.720 --> 01:23:15.119
both we want the very best for you.

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01:23:15.600 --> 01:23:18.520
We want you to realize the best version of yourself.

1523
01:23:19.039 --> 01:23:21.359
And the only way that can happen, it's not going

1524
01:23:21.439 --> 01:23:23.079
to come from Donald Trump. It's not going to come

1525
01:23:23.119 --> 01:23:26.279
from the Democratic Party or Barack Obama, go right down

1526
01:23:26.279 --> 01:23:29.079
the line. It only comes from one source, and that

1527
01:23:29.199 --> 01:23:31.800
is God Almighty himself, right, Scott, and.

1528
01:23:31.800 --> 01:23:34.680
I think the Christmas season, you know, the Christmas thing

1529
01:23:34.760 --> 01:23:38.399
is is just a remarkable time and the world celebrates

1530
01:23:38.399 --> 01:23:44.760
at Christmas. In Buddhist countries, in Shinto countries in China

1531
01:23:44.760 --> 01:23:46.760
and Japan, they are not Christian countries.

1532
01:23:46.800 --> 01:23:47.079
Really.

1533
01:23:47.279 --> 01:23:51.159
There's a large number of Christians in China, but throughout

1534
01:23:51.239 --> 01:23:57.039
the world Christmas is celebrated. Non Christians are influenced by

1535
01:23:57.560 --> 01:24:03.159
Jesus Christ. You know, we set time before Christ and

1536
01:24:03.199 --> 01:24:08.640
after Christ. All nations do that. Why is that? Because

1537
01:24:08.840 --> 01:24:11.960
Jesus Christ was the son of God, the only son

1538
01:24:12.000 --> 01:24:17.800
of God, the only Messiah, and so he has influenced

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01:24:18.359 --> 01:24:21.920
the entire world. But we need to you know, we

1540
01:24:22.000 --> 01:24:26.319
don't just want to relate to that in sort of

1541
01:24:26.359 --> 01:24:31.560
a you know, just a cultural way, but we want

1542
01:24:31.560 --> 01:24:33.399
to make that an intimate part.

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Of our life. We want to have an exactly personal.

1544
01:24:35.319 --> 01:24:39.039
Relationship with Christ and then and then we can really

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flourish as individuals.

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Amen. Scott Powell.

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He is the author, member of the Committee on this

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Present Danger China, and a senior Fellow at the Discovery Institute.

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Scott Powell, Merry Christmas to you, my friend.

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Thank Gry Christmas.

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Well, the holiday season is here, huh, and with more

1616
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people traveling and you know, gathering with loved ones, more

1617
01:28:40.399 --> 01:28:44.079
respiratory illnesses sadly will be circulating in the coming months.

1618
01:28:44.520 --> 01:28:47.640
So what do you need to know to stay protected

1619
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and healthy this season. Well, the one and only Samantha Picking,

1620
01:28:51.439 --> 01:28:55.159
Senior director of Immunization at Walgreens, is here to talk

1621
01:28:55.199 --> 01:28:58.560
about how to stay healthy this winter and holiday season,

1622
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including what vaccines are recommended in other ways to protect

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against respiratory viruses.

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Sam Welcome to Michelle. Good to have you with us.

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Thanks for having me today.

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Well, it tis the season.

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Huh, sure is.

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Well, let's talk about this respiratory virus season so far

1629
01:29:17.640 --> 01:29:20.119
in what should people know or be on the lookout for.

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Yeah, I mean every year, common resptory viruses like flu

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and pneumonia, they cause hundreds of thousands of hospitalizations and

1632
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thousands of deaths. And in recent years, activity really starts

1633
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to ramp up in December, and that's likely because a

1634
01:29:34.720 --> 01:29:37.199
lot more of us are traveling or we're coming together

1635
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for the holidays. So persony is I encourage everyone to

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check out and monitor Walgrain's Respiratory Index. It's our publicly

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available online tool attracts flu and COVID nineteen activity across

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the United States. And we've developed this tool really to

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provide actionable and accessible data so people can stay informed

1640
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and take the necessary steps to stay protected. And actually

1641
01:30:01.319 --> 01:30:04.960
looking at it now. While flu activity remains low nationwide,

1642
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there are a few states, especially in the southeast, that

1643
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are beginning to show increases. COVID nineteen activity has increased

1644
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across the Midwest, specifically in Michigan and Indiana, and we're

1645
01:30:15.239 --> 01:30:19.840
also seeing overall acute respiratory illness is beginning to increase nationwide.

1646
01:30:19.880 --> 01:30:22.399
We're all coughing or hearing people cough around us, and

1647
01:30:22.520 --> 01:30:25.920
oh yeah, the top spots in the Midwest, Northeast, Southeast.

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the rest Story Index can give you that real time

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insight into what's happening in your area or at your destination.

1651
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Yes, and the docs are saying it's it's kind of

1652
01:30:38.159 --> 01:30:40.840
the thriple the triple threat this season, right because you

1653
01:30:40.920 --> 01:30:44.840
got flu, RSV and COVID nineteen. They're all raising their

1654
01:30:44.920 --> 01:30:48.399
ugly heads. It comes with the season. And the other

1655
01:30:48.439 --> 01:30:51.199
thing I think to be mindful of, and I think

1656
01:30:51.239 --> 01:30:54.399
you might agree, is that, you know, because of the

1657
01:30:54.439 --> 01:30:56.760
stress of the season and we're trying to get so

1658
01:30:56.840 --> 01:31:00.600
much done in so little time, that really puts a

1659
01:31:00.680 --> 01:31:02.560
stress on our immune system, doesn't it.

1660
01:31:03.399 --> 01:31:06.359
Yeah, I mean whether it's stress or just being busy

1661
01:31:06.479 --> 01:31:09.800
and just being out and about, it really does and

1662
01:31:10.119 --> 01:31:13.279
the biggest thing is to keep yourself protected. So, like

1663
01:31:13.319 --> 01:31:15.640
you said, this time of year can be very busy,

1664
01:31:15.760 --> 01:31:18.520
but again it's critical to take the time get your

1665
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annual flu shot. Consider it like your self care and

1666
01:31:21.439 --> 01:31:25.079
take that time and also recommended imanizations like the updated

1667
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COVID vaccine RSV pneumonia vaccines. If you haven't gotten vaccinated yet,

1668
01:31:30.560 --> 01:31:33.520
it's not too late. Like you said, we've multiple resptory

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vaccinations and you should be protected. Based on my experience

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as a pharmacist, the latest scientific data available, we know

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vaccines are definitely the safe, effective way to prevent contagious

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Oh wow, Actually, so you can get multiple vaccines at

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the same time, then, is what you're saying that.

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I hear you are.

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Yes, it's absolutely safe to get multiple vaccines at one time,

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and for most people that's the easiest thing to do.

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You can get one single appointment, multiple vaccines and just

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get it done. That's what I do every year. I

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get my flu in COVID shot and the same appointment

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because I mean, like I said, we're all busy. It's

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so hard just to get to one appointment. So you

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can get it all done at the same time. In

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addition to that, you actually can make an appointment for

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up to four individuals together, so come in as a family,

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check it off the to do list for everyone. Then

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Walgreens pharmacists are available to counsel patients on the latest

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recommendations and what makes the most sense for them based

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01:33:07.319 --> 01:33:11.039
on their health conditions. In the latest recommendations, right, So

1701
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how do they get you to slow down?

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You know, being the pharmacists, You're running around with your

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hair on fire, and you still find a moment or

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two to where you can get vaccinated.

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Huh yeah, I mean luckily you pharmacists have it right

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there in the fridge. So whether that's pausing for a

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moment to get our shot and our technicians helping us

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out with that, it's the most important thing.

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Well exactly. How about giving a little bit more advice

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on how to help reduce our chances of getting sick

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during the holiday season?

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Yeah? I again, getting vaccinated number one most important thing

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01:33:44.880 --> 01:33:46.800
you can do to protect yourself in those around you.

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Like I said, it's not too late. But in addition

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to vaccination, also preventative actions that can help stop the

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01:33:53.600 --> 01:33:57.159
spread of viruses, like avoid close contact with people who

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01:33:57.199 --> 01:33:59.800
are sick, cover your nose and mouth when you sneeze,

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01:34:00.079 --> 01:34:03.840
wash your hands often, and avoid touching your eyes, nose,

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and mouth. I also recommend if you're traveling this holiday season,

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prepare a travel bag with essentials like hand sanitizer, disinfectant, wipes, tissues,

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or any prescription medications you may need to have on hand.

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You know, I'm glad you brought up the idea.

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It's more than the idea of it's been highly recommended

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to be mindful of how often we put our hands

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on our face, and I have been. This is driving

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me nuts, Samantha, because I I, you know, it's just

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one of those things that this season I'm more mindful

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of and I'm trying to do And every time I

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go to you know, just casually, I catch myself going,

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don't do that right?

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So hard, especially if you're like you don't even think

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about it when you're doing it, so you have to

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catch yourself.

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Yeah, but that's why I also, you know, uh, hand sanitizer.

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I mean, when I was growing up, we didn't have

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a hand and sanitized. You have bar soap in the

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bathroom or something, you know, that's it exactly. Now it's

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readily available in them. I mean we used to call

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those people germophotes, right who here growing up? And now

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I am one, you know, but I still even have

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to remember to, you know, do that more routinely, you know,

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several times a day, using and taking advantage of little

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things like this that will you know, help you, you know,

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fight off these these viruses that are flying around this

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holiday season.

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Right exactly.

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Yeah, I know you don't even think about it, but

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now I feel like I have hand satitizer on my

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car by every sink throughout my house. So just keeping

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those things on hand and making sure that you're prepared

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so that you can stay protected is really key.

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What about recovery, what do you reckon?

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Yeah, I mean when you do chicken sho not fun exactly.

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Staying hydrated, eating very important. But if you have Roundino's

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or cough, I do recommend you can go to your

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local Walgreens and tests for COVID or flu so you

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can understand if you have one of those viruses before

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you get together with family and friends for the holidays.

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But also it can be such an unpredictable time of

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year for cold to flu seasons, so gather your essentials

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so you have those on hand. The best thing is

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so it's super convenient. I use it all the time.

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So whether you're sick, don't want to get out of

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And the last thing that's most important is talk to

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your Walgreens pharmacist or other healthcare provider before you take

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any additional over the counter medications or vitamins and minerals

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01:36:50.039 --> 01:36:54.560
to understand one, what's the best way to manage your symptoms,

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01:36:54.760 --> 01:36:56.760
but also if you're on other medications or have a

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certain health condition, what medications can you take?

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Right while we're talking with Samantha Picking, she's a pharmacist,

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a senior director of immunizations with Walgreens. Now you may

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01:37:07.159 --> 01:37:09.920
think that I may be faking my voice right now. Actually,

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01:37:10.439 --> 01:37:13.880
I'm only doing this just especially for Samanthas so that

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01:37:13.920 --> 01:37:18.000
it adds gravitas to this interview. No, actually, I was

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01:37:18.039 --> 01:37:20.680
mentioning to her earlier. I did catch a little bit

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01:37:20.680 --> 01:37:22.640
of a cold, but I think it came from Australia

1786
01:37:22.680 --> 01:37:25.079
because I was on the other side of it and recovering,

1787
01:37:25.279 --> 01:37:27.000
and then all of a sudden it snapped back at me.

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01:37:27.079 --> 01:37:28.439
Samantha, what do I do?

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01:37:30.800 --> 01:37:31.000
Well?

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Like I said, Hey, if you need your OTC items,

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01:37:33.359 --> 01:37:35.439
talk to your provisist. They can help you. But also,

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01:37:35.720 --> 01:37:37.760
if you want to get more information around everything we

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01:37:37.840 --> 01:37:41.079
talked about today, whether it's vaccine guidance, access to testing,

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01:37:41.319 --> 01:37:44.439
checking those virus trends, just head to your neighborhood Walgreens

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or Walgreens dot com.

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Samantha, you're awesome. Thank you so much for the advice. Well,

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we'll stay healthy, keep our hands off our face, you know, sanitize,

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01:37:53.880 --> 01:37:56.880
you know, take advantage of you know, the sanitary wipes

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and keep them near, use them often liberally, and get

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plenty of rest and stay hydrated.

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Right, That's exactly it. Thank you so much for having me.

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Okay, take care of Samantha. Have a great one, great

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have a great holiday.

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Definitely looking forward to, you know, to this conversation. Hey, Mark,

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Thanks for having me, Bill, It's good to hear your

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Well, hey, you know, you bring up something here that

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With national security? That is a huge question.

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Yeah, it's a big time right now for us to

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1903
01:43:45.000 --> 01:43:50.359
the government is controlling from a centralized perspective these large

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language models and basically training these large language models, we're

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starting to see where it becomes a slippery slope and misinformation, disinformation,

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01:44:01.000 --> 01:44:04.399
and frankly just inaccurate information is being reported. So, by

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01:44:04.439 --> 01:44:08.319
way of example, build there's an app that went to

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01:44:08.439 --> 01:44:11.439
number one here in America on the App Store on

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01:44:11.479 --> 01:44:14.079
the Apple App Store called deep Seek, which is created

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01:44:14.119 --> 01:44:18.039
by the Chinese government. And if you or any of

1911
01:44:18.079 --> 01:44:21.760
your audience takes a minute to try it out, and

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they ask questions about the leader of China, Sijingping, Tieman Square,

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01:44:29.119 --> 01:44:34.279
that incident, or the Weiger slaves. Their response is very

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different than the way you and I see the world.

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They actually think that Chijingping is their duly elected democratic leader.

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01:44:41.000 --> 01:44:44.000
They see Tim and Square as never happening, and they

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also see the Wiggers as not being slaves. They in fact,

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01:44:49.479 --> 01:44:52.399
the deep seq will say there is no slavery in China.

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01:44:52.720 --> 01:44:54.760
So that's the first issue. The second issue, which is

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probably a more popular topic, is whether or not our information,

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01:44:59.479 --> 01:45:03.199
our data, and ultimately the hardware that's coming into play

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01:45:03.279 --> 01:45:08.000
now with autonomous vehicles, drones, humanoid robots and other types

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01:45:08.039 --> 01:45:12.000
of weaponry can be used against us. That's a big

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01:45:12.039 --> 01:45:13.840
issue too, And of.

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01:45:13.800 --> 01:45:16.960
Course we already saw a little taste of that when

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01:45:17.039 --> 01:45:20.800
Canada stopped the truckers, right and they stop their banking

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capacity to their ability to interact with their banks and

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01:45:24.000 --> 01:45:29.920
get money. So, you know, centralizing power and subordinating our

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01:45:29.960 --> 01:45:33.800
freedoms to agencies like that, no bueno.

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01:45:34.159 --> 01:45:36.720
Yeah, that's for sure. And remember again, like whoever's leading

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01:45:36.800 --> 01:45:39.880
from a political ideological perspective, it could hurt us. So

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you know, we're moving away from like this demand for

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01:45:43.359 --> 01:45:46.640
electronic vehicles right now in our country. But I love

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01:45:46.640 --> 01:45:49.239
what you're showing with regards to Canada. Just to bring

1935
01:45:49.279 --> 01:45:51.720
it here though, imagine if we have you know, Joe

1936
01:45:51.720 --> 01:45:55.439
Biden part two after President Trump, and there's a big

1937
01:45:55.479 --> 01:46:00.039
push to limit the amount of electricity for evs that

1938
01:46:00.079 --> 01:46:02.439
people can use, or limit the amount of gas that

1939
01:46:02.479 --> 01:46:05.520
people could use, and the government blocks it through the

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01:46:05.640 --> 01:46:08.199
use of AI through machine learning. So then all of

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01:46:08.239 --> 01:46:10.479
a sudden, you and I, who believe we're free, we

1942
01:46:10.479 --> 01:46:12.760
could get in our car, drive around wherever we want.

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01:46:12.920 --> 01:46:14.920
We go to the gas station, we try to push

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01:46:15.199 --> 01:46:18.880
some more gas into our car, and unfortunately, because there's

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01:46:18.920 --> 01:46:23.039
a you know, Democrat leader in the White House, we're

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01:46:23.039 --> 01:46:26.960
restricted because the machine learning is seeing that we've used

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01:46:27.000 --> 01:46:29.960
too much gasoline. We've gone to that we've fulfilled our quota.

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You know that we've hit the limit for the month.

1949
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That's really feasible that can happen.

1950
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Well, Mark, you bring up something here, because we did

1951
01:46:37.319 --> 01:46:40.680
get a taste of that in terms of over regulation

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01:46:40.920 --> 01:46:44.159
and restriction by the Biden administration. As a matter of fact,

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if they'd had the electronic infrastructure in which to do

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01:46:49.279 --> 01:46:53.119
what it was that their policies were doing, like restricting

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01:46:53.399 --> 01:46:56.159
you know, fuel and you know, playing games like that.

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Wow.

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I mean, they would have created a lot more more

1958
01:47:00.319 --> 01:47:02.560
havoc in our country than what they already did.

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That's right, that's for sure. And then taking it back

1960
01:47:05.600 --> 01:47:07.520
to whether or not we want to trust these people

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01:47:08.000 --> 01:47:11.680
as it relates to the use of artificial intelligence and

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01:47:11.760 --> 01:47:16.239
driving that into you know, military defense systems and beyond,

1963
01:47:16.279 --> 01:47:19.439
it becomes scary, right, it really does become scary.

1964
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Well, of course it does.

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I mean, right now we're having a big, you know,

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discussion about a double tap on the water off the

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01:47:27.880 --> 01:47:32.159
waters of Venezuela, and you imagine if it's AI. I

1968
01:47:32.199 --> 01:47:35.479
guess that gives you more than plausible deniability. It wasn't me,

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01:47:35.520 --> 01:47:36.319
it was the robot.

1970
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Right.

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01:47:37.079 --> 01:47:39.079
Well, that's an interesting point, but you know, at the

1972
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same time, we do need it. So Pete Hegseth, our

1973
01:47:41.600 --> 01:47:44.520
Secretary of War, made a big announcement this week with

1974
01:47:44.640 --> 01:47:48.239
regards to this new system that they're putting into place.

1975
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It's an interesting system and one of multiple features is

1976
01:47:52.239 --> 01:47:57.119
the idea that the AI, the machine itself, can have

1977
01:47:57.199 --> 01:48:01.800
the ability to react quicker and in real time than humans.

1978
01:48:02.119 --> 01:48:04.800
So that's going to play itself out on the battlefield too.

1979
01:48:05.159 --> 01:48:07.640
So that could be good for Americans. Right, we'll be

1980
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you know, if we're not leveraging the technology now, Bill,

1981
01:48:10.840 --> 01:48:13.319
if we're not leaning all the way in and investing

1982
01:48:13.359 --> 01:48:17.199
and leveraging the technology, we are in an AI war

1983
01:48:17.399 --> 01:48:20.600
with question with Ran and they're going to keep on going.

1984
01:48:20.680 --> 01:48:22.920
So you know, what Hegseth and these guys are doing

1985
01:48:23.000 --> 01:48:26.079
is important. And to have the ability to make, you know,

1986
01:48:26.439 --> 01:48:29.720
in the moment decisions, even if it is the machine

1987
01:48:30.159 --> 01:48:32.960
that could save our children and our children's children.

1988
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Yeah, but it comes with a warning, doesn't it. Mark.

1989
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I think that's what you're saying. I am.

1990
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We just can't wholesale, you know, surrender everything. But we

1991
01:48:41.000 --> 01:48:44.520
need to keep our eyes and be aware of what's

1992
01:48:44.560 --> 01:48:46.840
going on as much as the government will allow us

1993
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to be aware. That's the other issue is how much

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are they going to hide underneath their sleeves here?

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We need some checks and balances built into the hardware.

1996
01:48:55.800 --> 01:48:58.079
There's a company I sit on the board of called

1997
01:48:58.239 --> 01:49:01.760
Extend Drones. It's our the number one drone company on

1998
01:49:01.800 --> 01:49:07.399
the planet. It's seen battlefield action already in Iran, in Ukraine,

1999
01:49:07.640 --> 01:49:11.319
in Gaza and beyond. And what the owners of that company,

2000
01:49:11.319 --> 01:49:14.560
that privately held company is doing. It's really interesting, is

2001
01:49:14.840 --> 01:49:18.439
they're building kill switches into the drones. So God forbid

2002
01:49:18.800 --> 01:49:21.840
some bad actor and some bad region gets a holder

2003
01:49:21.840 --> 01:49:24.920
of their technology, they have the ability to stop it

2004
01:49:25.000 --> 01:49:26.560
and protect people like you and me.

2005
01:49:27.119 --> 01:49:30.560
Yeah, otherwise we're back to Sprock's Zarathustra and hew, it

2006
01:49:30.600 --> 01:49:32.079
goes maniac.

2007
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On us right.

2008
01:49:34.199 --> 01:49:36.560
Entirely, entirely. But you know, I'm of the school I

2009
01:49:36.600 --> 01:49:39.960
don't believe that we're looking at a terminator scenario. I

2010
01:49:40.000 --> 01:49:43.640
don't see the robots coming out to get us and

2011
01:49:43.680 --> 01:49:46.479
our family and our loved ones. I don't see a

2012
01:49:46.600 --> 01:49:50.319
moment in time where artificial intelligence will shift into what's

2013
01:49:50.319 --> 01:49:53.760
called AGI, where it's rational and it's able to make

2014
01:49:53.840 --> 01:49:57.640
decisions ahead of us and point weapons at us. I

2015
01:49:57.720 --> 01:49:59.880
just don't believe that. I think I might have mentioned

2016
01:49:59.920 --> 01:50:02.880
the to you before. I've said it a few times.

2017
01:50:02.920 --> 01:50:06.720
Similar to the way that a gun doesn't kill someone,

2018
01:50:06.880 --> 01:50:09.439
someone has to pull the trigger to kill someone with

2019
01:50:09.520 --> 01:50:12.319
a gun, AI is the same if it's going to

2020
01:50:12.359 --> 01:50:15.119
be used for bad purposes. To point weapons, to create

2021
01:50:15.239 --> 01:50:20.079
viruses and beyond it's a bad it's on the bad actor. Yeah,

2022
01:50:20.119 --> 01:50:22.199
we need to we need to behave responsibly.

2023
01:50:22.279 --> 01:50:25.279
Now, well, you're exactly right, because like with any technology,

2024
01:50:25.920 --> 01:50:29.039
it can be used good or evil. And generally what's

2025
01:50:29.079 --> 01:50:33.079
behind that is it is a humanoid, right, I mean,

2026
01:50:33.119 --> 01:50:35.199
I mean, I don't know of anything that all of

2027
01:50:35.239 --> 01:50:37.960
a sudden, some nuclear bomb gets launched on its own.

2028
01:50:38.199 --> 01:50:41.119
I haven't heard that happening, do you no?

2029
01:50:41.720 --> 01:50:44.439
And we're I'm very grateful for that for sure, thank God,

2030
01:50:44.520 --> 01:50:46.680
for sure. But you know, there are bad actors and

2031
01:50:46.760 --> 01:50:47.920
things do concern me.

2032
01:50:48.039 --> 01:50:48.600
So this week.

2033
01:50:48.640 --> 01:50:51.960
Another big part of AI news this week is coming

2034
01:50:52.000 --> 01:50:55.479
through our relationship with China. You might have read about it.

2035
01:50:56.199 --> 01:51:00.119
Our president has allowed for you know, this incredible company,

2036
01:51:00.159 --> 01:51:04.600
in Vidia, the leading company with regards to hardware with chips, specifically,

2037
01:51:04.960 --> 01:51:07.640
to start providing their technology into China.

2038
01:51:08.079 --> 01:51:09.199
The argument.

2039
01:51:10.279 --> 01:51:12.680
Is that as a result, it's allowing for us to

2040
01:51:12.720 --> 01:51:16.359
get access to rare earth minerals, which we desperately need,

2041
01:51:16.399 --> 01:51:19.319
not just for our cars and devices, but for our

2042
01:51:19.359 --> 01:51:24.159
military equipment too. And furthermore, the chips that in Vidia

2043
01:51:24.319 --> 01:51:28.279
is permitted to sell to China is bringing new revenue

2044
01:51:28.319 --> 01:51:31.399
to the country, and they're not as advanced as they're

2045
01:51:31.520 --> 01:51:33.239
laden models exactly.

2046
01:51:33.319 --> 01:51:36.079
I was going to say they're somewhat held back a

2047
01:51:36.119 --> 01:51:38.680
little bit. Are they tied to any soybeans sales? I mean,

2048
01:51:38.760 --> 01:51:40.800
I want them to follow up on soybeans. I mean

2049
01:51:40.800 --> 01:51:43.479
they promised and say, hey, we'll give you the chips,

2050
01:51:43.479 --> 01:51:47.279
but we're sending barrels of soybeans along with them.

2051
01:51:47.319 --> 01:51:47.520
Right.

2052
01:51:47.840 --> 01:51:50.640
Yeah, we're desperate for rare earth minerals with China.

2053
01:51:51.000 --> 01:51:53.880
No doubt. But meanwhile we're moving We're moving along too.

2054
01:51:54.039 --> 01:51:56.960
I mean, I think it's projected that by next year

2055
01:51:57.479 --> 01:52:02.680
we could have manufacturing and be able to respond to

2056
01:52:02.760 --> 01:52:06.800
this blight of rare earth accessibility here in the country.

2057
01:52:06.800 --> 01:52:07.439
What do you think?

2058
01:52:07.800 --> 01:52:10.199
Yeah, I think President Trump is doing an amazing job

2059
01:52:10.319 --> 01:52:13.159
using the tariffs that he's set up to start cutting

2060
01:52:13.199 --> 01:52:15.880
deals beyond the obvious. Most people really see it as

2061
01:52:15.920 --> 01:52:19.880
a binary scenario unfortunately, and you know, I wish President

2062
01:52:19.920 --> 01:52:22.079
Trump and the Executive branch would do a better job

2063
01:52:22.119 --> 01:52:25.680
with messaging. They're not just using the tariffs to tax,

2064
01:52:25.760 --> 01:52:28.079
They're using the tariffs to cut new deals. And in

2065
01:52:28.159 --> 01:52:31.239
a lot of regions, I think in places like China,

2066
01:52:31.359 --> 01:52:34.239
excuse me, in places like Brazil, in places like Argentina

2067
01:52:34.279 --> 01:52:37.880
where rare earth minerals are really really rich, but these

2068
01:52:37.880 --> 01:52:40.479
countries don't have the ability to extract them. We have

2069
01:52:40.520 --> 01:52:44.199
some technology that is advanced on that front. And America

2070
01:52:44.279 --> 01:52:46.439
is one of the only countries China and America. But

2071
01:52:46.960 --> 01:52:49.239
President Trump is doing a great deal in cutting these

2072
01:52:49.279 --> 01:52:53.159
foreign a great job at cutting these foreign nation deals

2073
01:52:53.199 --> 01:52:56.840
to get us access to new rare earth minerals. Coming

2074
01:52:56.920 --> 01:53:00.439
out of the fact that we're negotiating these tariffs, we're

2075
01:53:00.439 --> 01:53:01.760
going to see a lot of growth I think in

2076
01:53:01.800 --> 01:53:03.119
those categories too well.

2077
01:53:03.119 --> 01:53:05.359
And the other thing too, Mark Beckman, is that let's

2078
01:53:05.359 --> 01:53:08.960
not forget the tariffsies utilize them to settle eight wars

2079
01:53:09.000 --> 01:53:09.439
so far.

2080
01:53:09.920 --> 01:53:11.079
I mean, is that a bad thing?

2081
01:53:12.000 --> 01:53:15.840
Look, you know, people Trump during syndrome is real people really.

2082
01:53:15.840 --> 01:53:17.640
They don't like his style, they don't like the way

2083
01:53:17.680 --> 01:53:21.079
he speaks. He's doing incredible things here, just not even

2084
01:53:21.079 --> 01:53:24.279
a year into it. And I heard this morning that

2085
01:53:24.319 --> 01:53:27.600
there are some places that are in our country, certain states,

2086
01:53:27.640 --> 01:53:30.800
where the gas price is below two dollars. That's like, yeah, exactly,

2087
01:53:30.880 --> 01:53:33.199
back to the future, right, So you know, he's doing

2088
01:53:33.239 --> 01:53:35.159
a great job. People just don't want to see it.

2089
01:53:35.159 --> 01:53:37.399
It's you know, unfortunately, Bill, we're living in a time which,

2090
01:53:37.439 --> 01:53:40.239
you know, if you don't want to like Trump, you

2091
01:53:40.279 --> 01:53:42.640
go against everything he does, even if it's good, even

2092
01:53:42.680 --> 01:53:45.199
if it helps your children. And if you do like him,

2093
01:53:45.319 --> 01:53:47.640
you know, in some cases it's blind faith. But if

2094
01:53:47.680 --> 01:53:49.720
you could just take a minute and look at the policy,

2095
01:53:50.079 --> 01:53:51.399
he's doing a great job.

2096
01:53:51.600 --> 01:53:53.279
He really is, I agree.

2097
01:53:53.439 --> 01:53:55.239
The thing that's hard for me, I mean, because like

2098
01:53:55.279 --> 01:53:58.960
you said, people are so ideologically fixed and suffering from

2099
01:53:59.000 --> 01:54:03.760
TDS that they find themselves standing on twenty percent of

2100
01:54:03.800 --> 01:54:07.920
an issue instead of a majority issue that sometimes is

2101
01:54:07.960 --> 01:54:11.600
eighty and ninety percent. There's such a clear common sense

2102
01:54:11.680 --> 01:54:14.000
position to be on, and it's like you almost have

2103
01:54:14.119 --> 01:54:17.279
to insist on being stupid just because you hate Trump.

2104
01:54:18.760 --> 01:54:20.800
Bill, I call it, we're living in the age of

2105
01:54:20.920 --> 01:54:24.359
dumb where people don't want to apply logic, they don't

2106
01:54:24.399 --> 01:54:27.319
want to go and do the work to read and learn.

2107
01:54:27.640 --> 01:54:30.840
There's no deductive reasoning. And I agree with you. But

2108
01:54:30.880 --> 01:54:33.560
Trump's done a great job at finding those eighty percent

2109
01:54:34.840 --> 01:54:37.119
issues right where most of the people will get behind

2110
01:54:37.199 --> 01:54:40.119
him and he's running with them. But the guy works NonStop.

2111
01:54:40.159 --> 01:54:42.760
It really is twenty four to seven every single day

2112
01:54:42.800 --> 01:54:45.560
of the week, and you know, there's tremendous progress. People

2113
01:54:45.640 --> 01:54:48.039
just need to give everything a minute. A lot of

2114
01:54:48.039 --> 01:54:51.079
his financial policies, his economic policies, are going to kick

2115
01:54:51.119 --> 01:54:51.920
in after the new year.

2116
01:54:51.960 --> 01:54:52.680
It's going to be great.

2117
01:54:53.399 --> 01:54:56.239
Well, he's selling affordability. I thought that's what he sold

2118
01:54:56.279 --> 01:54:58.399
to get reelected. But he's got to go out there

2119
01:54:58.439 --> 01:55:01.279
because the Democrats have tried to all the Moniker but

2120
01:55:01.760 --> 01:55:06.159
he's the only one that has the receipts to demonstrate

2121
01:55:06.479 --> 01:55:08.920
that he is making America affordable again.

2122
01:55:09.000 --> 01:55:11.800
Right well, I think so. I think right now. Messaging

2123
01:55:11.880 --> 01:55:14.239
is important coming you know, as we turn into twenty

2124
01:55:14.279 --> 01:55:16.279
twenty six, the midterms are going to be a big deal,

2125
01:55:16.399 --> 01:55:20.520
as you very well know, and messaging is going to matter.

2126
01:55:20.640 --> 01:55:24.640
There are some segments within the population that supported him

2127
01:55:24.640 --> 01:55:27.960
in a big way. For example, he had a massive

2128
01:55:28.000 --> 01:55:32.039
amount of the Hispanic vote. It was record breaking, but

2129
01:55:32.119 --> 01:55:34.560
that's been slashed in half according to the studies that

2130
01:55:34.560 --> 01:55:36.479
I'm reading right now. So he's going to have to

2131
01:55:36.479 --> 01:55:38.359
not just get his messaging up, but he's going to

2132
01:55:38.439 --> 01:55:41.840
have to bring a lot of these segments that voted

2133
01:55:41.880 --> 01:55:45.560
for him in an overwhelming way during the main election,

2134
01:55:45.800 --> 01:55:48.560
back for the midterms or else. It could be problematic.

2135
01:55:48.560 --> 01:55:51.159
And we need four more We need four full years

2136
01:55:52.039 --> 01:55:56.000
of Republican policy in Congress and in the executive branch

2137
01:55:56.079 --> 01:55:59.279
to make certain things stick. It's important well.

2138
01:55:59.079 --> 01:56:01.279
Mark, as you says, is critical, and I think that's

2139
01:56:01.279 --> 01:56:04.920
why Susie Wilds is putting him in the Willie Nelson

2140
01:56:04.960 --> 01:56:07.680
buss and taking him product country. You know, you got

2141
01:56:07.680 --> 01:56:09.640
to get on the road again. Man, keep that messaging

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