Dec. 15, 2025

The Bill Martinez Show 12 15 25

The Bill Martinez Show 12 15 25
The Bill Martinez Show 12 15 25
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, Okay, let's do an Ill Martinez Live, a program

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about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and

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our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Hey, good morning. Six minutes after the top of the hour,

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Bill Martinez here with you know, the infamous Bill Federer.

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Of course, he is the American mintic creator, nationally known speaker,

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best selling author, and president of Mayor Search, Inc. Hey,

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mister Bill, Merry Christmas to you, Oh Bill.

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Great to be with you.

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Well, always good to have you here on the show,

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and particularly this time of year, the Advent season that

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I love so much. You know, you and I had

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a chance to spend some time together and talk about

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Thanksgiving as the start of this season of giving and

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spiritual awakening and tenderness toward Almighty God. Because God is

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He's always wanting us to turn to him and his

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arms are always wide open and here, especially in this

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time and season of Advent, right.

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Well, it's so important to realize the spiritual foundation of this.

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I go through it in a book called Believe. But

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the understanding is that God is just and he cannot

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help it. There are some things that God cannot do.

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One is he cannot be unjust, He's just. It's his

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very nature, which means he has to judge every sin,

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because if he doesn't judge u sin, by default, his

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silence would be giving consent to the sin. And so

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if he made free will creatures that could love him,

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and we sin against him, he has to judge us.

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And so he came up with a plan. He actually

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had the plan before he created the first electron. The

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plan was his own son would become a man, and

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only as a man could God die on a cross

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to pay for our sins. Charles Wesley wrote the him

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amazing love. How could it be that thou, my God,

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shouldst die for me? So God is just and he

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judges every sin, but he's loving that he provided the

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lamb to take the judgment for the sin exactly. And

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so the lamb is God's way to love you without

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having to judge you. It's his way to get around

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his own just nature. So we can continue to be

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eternally just. But He's love. And then Jesus, out of

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love for the Father and love for you and me,

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became the lamb, took the wrath of an eternal just

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God upon himself in our place, so that we can

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approach this eternal just God and not afterward about being judged. Right,

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So the lamb is God's way to love you without

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having to judge you. So on Christmas we celebrate that

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God sent his son Jesus to earth to be the lamb.

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You know, I look at it in a way. It

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was kind of like God's way of doing the do over,

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because here was in the garden of Eden, he had

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our first parents, Adam and Eve, and you know, they disobeyed,

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and being the just God that he is, rendered consequences.

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But God still needed I mean, he he designed Adam

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as being the first of his creation. But now we

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had to redeem what Adam had done. And so it

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required the ultimate sacrifice, the perfect lamb, the perfect sacrifice

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of his son to redeem us. And so, you know,

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I look at it in a way, Bill, I don't

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know why, but I just says, it's God's due over.

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You know, we're going to do over the creation narrative

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in the most perfect of ways. Right.

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Yeah, that's why the New Testament calls Jesus the second Atom. Yes,

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you know, here's the devil and Satan. He's in heaven

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and he sends against God. He wants to throw God

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out of heaven. Right, he said, I'll put my thrown

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above the throne of God. And so Satan sinning against God,

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and God cast.

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Him out five times. Five times he does that bill

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he arrogantly makes the statement that he's going to put

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his throne above God. That takes a lot of arrogance.

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You know.

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And there can only be one will in heaven for

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there to be peace. And when Satan five times says

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I will put my throne above the throne, I will

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be like the most. We've got two wills going on here,

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and since they're not the same, there's conflict. There's war.

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There's war in heaven, and Satan is cast out. So

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the devil comes to the garden, goes in and says, hey,

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if I get Adam and Eve the sin against God,

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God will have to judge him. He gets them to sin.

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That was pretty easy. And then he stands back and says.

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Haha, you're a just God.

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You have to judge Adaim and he because if you

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don't judge their sin by your silence, you'd be giving

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consent to the sin. And if you give consent to sin,

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you're denying your just nature. You're denying yourself. You're kicked

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out of heaven. And God cannot deny himself, so he

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sends judgment, and in steps the Lamb to take the hit. Right,

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so God made Adam and Eve coats of skins. The

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Lamb slain from the foundations of the world. And so

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you know Cain and Abel Caine as an offshoot of

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the Church of the fig Lea. If he starts the

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Church of the Fruits and the nuts, and his is

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a religion of works right. And Abele trusted in the Lamb,

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and Noah sacrifice lambs, we got off the arc, and

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Abraham sacrifice lambs and Moses had every family in Israel sacrifice.

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The Lamb put the blood on the doorposts of their

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house and solo and had a thousand of them sacrificed

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when we dedicated the temple. Finally, John the Baptist, points

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of Jesus and said, behold the Lamb of God. They

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get the way the sends of the world. So but

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I put together a book. It's called there really is

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a Santa Claus, the history of Saint Nicholas and Christmas

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holiday traditions, and so it's just a fun insight into

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this season. One of the first things I talked about

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is I sort of cleared the table, but I go

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through the date of Christmas and people say, oh, well

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maybe it was you know, it was the wrong date.

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Maybe it was in the spring. It's like, well, let's

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look at where the traditional date came from, and if

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you like, I can go through this real quick.

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Yeah, yeah, let's do that, because that kind of it

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amazes me because you know, you and I've talked about

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this before, but it's interesting that that controversy still comes up.

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But that's okay.

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Yeah.

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So the book Aluke, chapter one says that John the

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Baptist dad was in the temple and he was of

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the priestly division of a Baija. And it's like, okay,

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what's that. It's like a little detective story. So we

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got to go through this. King David divided the Levi

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priests into twenty four groups to minister at the temple,

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and Baija was group number eight. But we don't know

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how these groups work. They're just listed. But then when

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the Dead Sea scrolls were discovered, they found out the

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Sacerdotal Rhoda system, which says that each of those twenty

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four family groups will serve twice a year for a

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week six months apart. It's like, okay, but when did

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they begin? And now we got another clue. Jerusalem was

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destroyed on August fourth of seventy eighty on the Jewish calendar,

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that's the ninth of Ov. And the Talmud says that

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the priestly division that was on duty when the temple

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was destroyed was jehoi Arab. Now's another clue. Jehoi Arab

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was the first of the twenty four groups, and Abijah's

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the eighth of the twenty four groups. And so if

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we know that jehoi Arab was on duty that family

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group for the first week of August, when August fourth,

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when the temple was destroyed, now we can count off

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eight weeks later. And eight weeks later is the last

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week of September, and so that's when the Abijah family

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division would be minister at the temple. Now that's a

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big week. At the beginning of the week is the

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day of Atonement. End of the week is the Feast

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of Tabernacles, and so and so here you have the

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Gospel says that Zachariah was chosen by Lot. Now another clue.

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There's twenty four thousand levites, and to be chosen only

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the high priest goes in the holy holies, but the

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regular priests take turns in the Holy Place, and so

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chosen by lot means that you know, they draw straws, basically.

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And so for Zachariah to be chosen out of twenty

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four thousand to be the one ministering every day, lighting

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the candle, putting the show bred out in the Holy

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Place on this special week, it's it's like a once

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in a lifetime opportunity.

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Yeah, without it, without a doubt. I mean, this is

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this isn't circumstantial. I mean again, this is the way

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God does things. It's always precise. It's according to order

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and according to His plan and purpose. We got to

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Tide Ministry, sharing the Gospel of Jesus Christ worldwide in

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the languages people were born to speak. The Tide Ministry

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recently participated in the annual ABR Media Continental Convention in Rwanda,

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where one hundred and seventy Christian media workers from thirty

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to share the gospel across Africa. The TIDE delegation included

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several leaders from our partner ministries in Cameroon Mozambique and Zimbabwe.

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Sessions were in both English and French so that all

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delegates could benefit from the experience by actively networking and

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engaging in panel discussions. Topics included ministry under persecution, leadership

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in changing times, ais impact and overcoming local challenges. We

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celebrate what God is doing across Africa and pray for

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continued cooperation in sharing God's word with those who are

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Bill Veender continues with us the American Minute Grainer. Bill

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will continue on with the story Zachariah, the father of

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John the Baptist. He by lot is chosen to go

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into the Holy holies.

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Go ahead, right, So the last week Istember in the

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angel appears and says, your wife's going to conceive. So

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he goes back and she concedes. Now, in the Gospel

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of Luke twice, the Angel appears to Mary and says,

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your cousin Elizabeth is in her sixth month. So six

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months after the last week of September is the last

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week of March. And so now the traditional dating is

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that Mary conceived around March twenty fifth, and so nine

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months after March twenty fifth is December twenty fifth, and

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so that's where we get the time of December twenty fifth.

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Well, and it's interesting, Bill that you know the way

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people again talk about it, that it was something that

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you know, in order to offset some pagan rituals and

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other things. I mean, men can think about their own

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theories and how they're going to orchestrate the calendar but

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God's still in charge God, right.

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Yeah, And then the people say, well, you know, it

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would have been too cold in December for the sheep

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to be in the field. The temperature of Bethlehem and

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Jerusalem is modern. In the winter, it's like maybe it

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gets down to you know, forty degrees on the coldest night.

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It's more like Flagstaff, Arizona. And then there's a lot

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of sheep farm websites and they say that lambs are

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born around one hundred and forty five days four point

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five months after the u falls pregnant, and lambs can lambing,

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or the birth of a lamb can start as early

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as December. And so this is a lamb farmer's website

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saying December you can have. And then what about the

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pagan thing. Well, Saturnalia was the Roman festival of Saturn,

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and it was on the shortest day of the year,

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which is December twenty second, not December twenty fifth. I mean,

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if you're going to pick a date to overlap a date,

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you'd pick the same date right exactly, and so the

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and then you get into it. The Jews did not

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celebrate birthdays most of the Middle East and even in Asia,

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they don't celebrate birthdays. We visited Turkey and my wife

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asked this one woman, you know when her birthday was,

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and she had to dig through her cards and found

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it and oh, yeah, this is the day. She didn't

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even have memorized because they don't celebrate. So the Jews didn't,

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but the Gentiles did. And so it was only after

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the second third century that you would have this interest.

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And when was Jesus born. Prior to that, the big

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day was, you know, the date of the resurrection. And

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so then you have the records of church fathers saying

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there's a saint Hippolytis of Rome two four a d.

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And he talks about Jesus being born on December twenty fifth.

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Now why is that significant Because the Romans did not

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start celebrating soul invictis the birth of the Sun God

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until two seventy four AD. So it's actually Christians were

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celebrating December twenty fifth.

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Before the pagan right exactly.

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And it's almost like Kwanza was this made up holiday

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specifically to draw attention away from Christmas from Jesus. The

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thought is that the Romans had this growing movement of

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Christians that they were trying to stamp out, and the

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Christians had December twenty fifth, so they decided to pick

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their Pagan day to overlap the Christian Day. Yeah right,

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so instead of it being oh, Christians followed the Pagans,

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it looks like it's the other way around, right exactly. Anyway,

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I get into that, that's a little more academic. The

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fun part of my book is I get into the

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history of Saint Nicholas, and he was the most popular

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Greek Orthodox Saint. Saint Nicholas is to Greeks what Saint

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Peter is to Roman Catholics, and that's why you have

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so many Greek people named Nick or so many you know.

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Nicholas and a movement swept through Christianity in the third

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century called monasticism or Pietism that said, if you're really

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a Christian, you should follow the rich young ruler, give

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away all your money to the poor, and then come

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and follow me. So Christians would give away their money

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and join monasteries. And so Nicholas inherited a lot of

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money from his parents and he wants to give the

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money away, but he doesn't want to get the credit

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for it. What good would that do? So he would

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sneak in the town at night time in the little

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town of Patawa, Asia Minor today that's Turkey, and throw

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money in the window a poor people, and supposedly it

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would land. And if she were a stock, And that's

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driven by the fireplace. And one story became popular. A

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merchant in the town had gone bankrupt, and the creditors

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would not only take your house and lands, they'd take

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your children. And this father had three beautiful daughters. He

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knew it would be a terrible life if they got taken,

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so he comes up with an idea. He thought if

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he could hurry up and marry the daughters off, the

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creditors couldn't take them. Unfortunately, he did not have money

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for a dowry, which was needed in that area of

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the world for a legally recognized wedding. Nicholas, here's a problem.

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Late one night throws money in the window, and the

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oldest daughter has a dower.

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He gets married.

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And then another night he throws money and for the

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second daughter she gets married. And by the time it's

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the third daughter's turn, the dad's waiting up runs outside

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catches Nicholas. Nicholas makes him promise not to tell and

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that's the origin of the traditional secret gift giving on

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the anniversary of Nicholas's death. The Greeks have lots of

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more stories that after he gave away his money, Nicholas

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wanted to join a monastery in Zion. The Lord tells

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him not to hide his light under a bushel. Comes

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back to Myra, a port city in Asia Minor. Right,

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all seven churches mentioned in the Book of Revelation were an

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Asia Minor.

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And.

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Unbeknownst to him, the bishop had died. The church leaders

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could not decide who the next bishop was going to be,

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and one of them has a dream. The first person

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the church the next day would be named Nicholas, and

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he was to be their bishop. Well, Nicholas's habit was

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to be the first one in church. They tell him

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the news and he's not too thrilled because the Roman

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emperor die Cletian was arresting bishops and killing them. So

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it's sort of like you be the bishop. No, no, you

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first exactly, and he's arrested, put in jail awaiting death,

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and then the emperor of the world resigns. It's Diocletian.

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He's been persecuting Christians for decades and he's the Christians

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are praying he's struck with an intestinal disease, so painfully

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abdicates the throne May first, three oh five AD. The

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next emperor, or Galerius, continues persecuting Christians. He's struck with

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an intestinal disease. Dies. It's a toss up between four generals,

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and it finally comes down to Constantine and Maxentius and

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the Battle of the Milvian Bridge outside of Rome. And

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the day before the battle, Constantine sees the sign of

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Christ in the sky, puts it on all the shields

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and symbols and wins. What's the sign of Christ?

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The first two.

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Greek letters for the name Christ. Hebrew it's Messiah, which

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means the anointed one, and Greek it's Chris Christus or Christ.

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The letter in Greek that the sound is written as

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an X. It's called kai, and the letter that makes

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the erth sound is called row, and it's written as

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a big P. So it's an X and a P

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the first two Greek letters for the name Christ. And

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that's what you see on Constantine shields and symbols in

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the fourth century. Now, over the years it got shortened

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just to the chive v X, and it was called

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the Christ's cross or Chriss cross. Chris cross means Christ's cross,

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and that's where you get Xmas. Yes, so Xmas is

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not crossing out Christ. It's the Greek letter Kai that

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stood for Christ. And then it became part of an

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oath swear to tell the truth. So help you got yeah,

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I cross my heart the Christ cross and then sign

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on a document to where the true do you sign

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it the Christ cross, signed it the X and then

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they would kish it to show sincerity, and that's the

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x's and o's in the bottom of a Valentine. So

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now Constantine legalizes Christianity. Nichols has led out of jail

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and he preaches against paganism. So one of the seven

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wonders of the ancient world is the temple to Diana,

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and she had the temple prostitutes, and it's the las

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vegas of the Mediterranean possible against diana worship x nineteen.

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Nicholas preaches against diana worship and they tear her temple down.

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And then he preaches against exposure of unwanted infants. That

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was the Roman version of abortion. Preaches against the Olympic

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Games because they ran them unclad. I don't get into

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all that, but the Greeks seen all those statues. And

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then there's the Arian heresy, and a guy named Arius

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says Jesus was less than God, a created being, and

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it begins to split the Church. And since Constantine made

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Christianity the de fact or religion, it's splitting the Roman Empire.

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Constantine orders all the church leaders to come together in

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one place for the first time ever, at Nicea, and

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they write, then I see and creed the excommunicate areas.

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And this year is the seventeen hundred year anniversary of

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the Consul, and I see A three twenty five eight,

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twenty twenty five eighty. And so the pope and the

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Greek Orthodox patriarch met just a short time ago in Nicea,

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and they said, the nice In creed together. But the

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Greeks have the tradition that Nicholas slapped areas at the consul,

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and I see you for starting the Arian heresy. So

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there's all this ancient artwork of Nicholas reaching over and

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slapping areas.

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And well, Bill Federer, we got to leave it there.

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And of course you can read all about it, as

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they say, And there really is a Santa Claus, the

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history of Saint Nick and Christmas holiday traditions. Again, Bill,

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you and Susie have just given us such a great gift.

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I mean, it's just awesome.

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It's fun. The Dutch add to it that Jesus will

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return at the end of the world judge living in

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the dead riding a white horse. Saints will come back

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with him riding a white horses. Saint Nicholas is a saint,

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so he'll be one of those riding a white horse.

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But he's so special to the Dutch they have him

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coming back once a year for a little mini judgment

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day and he stresses a bishop riding white horse. But

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over the years, the saints come from heaven that turns

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into the North Pole, and the angels turn into elves,

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and the Lamb's Book of Life turns of the Book

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of the Naughty and the Nice, and the horses turn

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into reindeer. Anyway, but you go back, there's some biblical

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stories woven in there.

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Martinez here with doctor Johnsmaerk from Stream dot org. Soon

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she has a really big substack and they're creating a

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Yeah, the whole truth and nothing but right, John, Right, Yeah, exactly. Well,

552
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I want to talk about something you wrote at the

553
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Brew here, and this has been disturbing Charni Kirk's wife, Erica,

554
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had brought this out here recently in her interviews on

555
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Fox and other places, and that has to do with

556
00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:27.799
these silly conspiracy theories about Charnie Kirk's killer.

557
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Well, it's more than silly. First of all, the horrible

558
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tragedy that Charlie Kirk was assassinated by a left wing

559
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sexual degenerate who was involved in the transgender movement. And

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now that became that was a moment of spiritual revival,

561
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and we saw people going back to church, We saw

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turning Point USA chapters becoming more overtly theological as Charlie

563
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was becoming over the years. And then it's spiritual warfare.

564
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The devil stepped in to try to snuff it out,

565
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to try to divert the powerful witness of Charlie's death,

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end of his life and turn it to the most squalid,

567
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gutter conspiracy theories peddled by, first of all, Candice Owens,

568
00:31:16.720 --> 00:31:21.119
who I'm not sure if she's crazy or if she's

569
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:27.279
actually possessed, and I'm not using hyperbole. Milo Ianopolis is

570
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another person. Both of them claim to be converts to Catholicism,

571
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and both of them seem to me to have dark spirits,

572
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and they seem to be devoted to destruction and to

573
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tearing down everything, every good thing that Charlie Kirk built,

574
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every good thing that we're trying to do in America.

575
00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:53.279
They're trying to make us paranoid, make us distrust everyone. Now,

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we know we shouldn't trust the deep state, we shouldn't

577
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trust the mainstream media, but they're trying to make us

578
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distrust absolutely everyone. And Candace own is even cast doubt

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and suspicion on Charlie Kirk's wife and his best friends

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that there's some sort of dark conspiracy behind it, that

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there was a power grab. It's it's just it's not

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based on any reality. It kind of reminds me of

583
00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:23.720
monkeys in cages throwing poop at the wall. They're just

584
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throwing theories out there to get clicks, to make money, literally,

585
00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:30.519
to make money. Why didn't Candice Owe just show up

586
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at Charlie Kirk's funeral and try to sell tupperware? I

587
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mean that would be just as classy as what she's

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doing now. Yeah, and then might actually interfere with the

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prosecution of the man who apparently shot.

590
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That's that's what I was gonna say, is this compromises everything.

591
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It taints the jury pool. Yeah, the Chinese love and

592
00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:53.759
you got to know that these attorneys here and the

593
00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:57.680
way Utah's handling this whole situation, you think that Charlie

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Kirk's accused murder was the victim.

595
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Right right.

596
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And yeah, Andy Engo, who's been a heroically courageous journalist

597
00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:09.519
in chronicling the terrorist activities of Antifa, he is the

598
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guy who came out and said, this may make it

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impossible to put his killer in prison. And if you

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really want to, if you want a conspiracy theory, here's

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one I think might have some validity. Whoever it was

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in the deep state that authorized Charlie Kirk's murder, because

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I don't think this guy was acting alone. I think

604
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there was probably some deep state involvement. I think there

605
00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:34.240
probably was in the assassination attempts on Trump too. Whoever

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was in the deep state that authorized the murder also

607
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authorized this syop of all these conspiracy theories in order

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to taint the durru pool so that their killer doesn't

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actually have to do any time in prison. There that's

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their backup plan for protecting him.

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Well, you know, like there's nothing new here, John, I mean,

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this has been done time and time again, you know,

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just you know, to kind of cloud up the perspective,

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and you know, whether we're talking nine to eleven, the

615
00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:05.279
Kennedy assassination, just go right on down the list. I mean,

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this is all their modus operendi, is it not.

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Yeah, we really can't put anything past the people in

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00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:15.800
the FBI and the CIA. I mean, we know they

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00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:19.519
tried to take down President Trump. They tried to falsely

620
00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:24.519
paint him as a trader, as a Russian agent. They

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00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:28.320
use facts that they knew were false, they used fake information,

622
00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:31.079
they leaked it to the media. They tried to peach

623
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:34.960
him twice. It was all to try to overturn the

624
00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:38.800
results of the Democratic election. We've got federal judges nullifying

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00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:43.000
every legitimate decision Trump makes with this constitutional executive authority.

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00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:46.119
They're just saying no. I think a lot of the

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00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:50.440
Republicans in Congress would actually rather lose them in terms

628
00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:52.719
so that the next two years can be all about

629
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:56.159
impeaching Donald Trump. Because what they want, what the Republican

630
00:34:56.239 --> 00:35:00.199
establishment still wants, is to purge the foreign body of

631
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:05.039
Trump and his populism from the Republican Party and take

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00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:10.239
back the party, recreate the Republican Party of Mitt Romney

633
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and Paul Ryan, which basically existed like the Washington generals.

634
00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:18.119
Those were the white guys whose job it was to

635
00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:22.440
lose every night graciously to the Harlem globetrotters. The Republican Party,

636
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:26.679
the old pre Trump Republican Party, played to lose so

637
00:35:26.719 --> 00:35:30.960
that it could then fundraise and pay itself enormous salaries

638
00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:33.480
on the backs of SAPs like you and me writing

639
00:35:33.519 --> 00:35:36.800
little checks to the Republican Campaign Committee to try to

640
00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:39.400
take back our country, when in fact they were playing

641
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:44.360
to lose. We saw John McCain, who had opposed Obamacare

642
00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:46.599
and ran on opposing it.

643
00:35:46.079 --> 00:35:46.719
Flew back.

644
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One of his last votes in the Senate was to

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vote to keep Obamacare in place. And we know what

646
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Obamacare is. It's a massive wealth transfer, first of all

647
00:35:55.599 --> 00:35:58.480
to our healthcare companies, whose profits have gone up seven

648
00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:03.159
hundred percent since Obamacare. And secondly, it's well transferred from

649
00:36:03.239 --> 00:36:08.000
the middle class to the welfare class, with the health

650
00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:12.440
insurance companies making huge profits as the middleman.

651
00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:16.480
Yeah, so much for the Democratic Party narrative that they're

652
00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:17.719
for the little guy right.

653
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Therefore keeping the little guy little, making everyone in the

654
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:28.280
middle little again. The Democrats want a society like colonial Mexico,

655
00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:30.760
a big hacienda on the hill with a man in

656
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:33.440
a white straw hat and a bunch of guards with rifles,

657
00:36:33.679 --> 00:36:36.159
and everybody else is down in the favela and is

658
00:36:36.199 --> 00:36:38.800
afraid of their death squads. We saw that during the

659
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COVID panic, that what happened during COVID, the lockdowns, the

660
00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:47.880
force vaccinations, they were setting up in tournament camps in

661
00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:51.400
Australia for the unvaccinated, and our own Centers for Disease

662
00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:54.039
Control set on its website that it planned to do

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the same thing here. So locked in your house, fired

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if you won't get take a dangerous new vaccine. DOUN

665
00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:04.760
aborted babies, your church's clothed, the abortion clinics opened, the

666
00:37:04.840 --> 00:37:09.559
media censored anyone who spoke out, doctors, e ademiologists, anyone

667
00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:12.599
who spoke out against the narrative was labeled a murderer

668
00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:18.360
and was fired, disbarred, kicked out of the medical profession.

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That kind of totalitarian society is what the Democrats want,

670
00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:26.199
and we see they're already doing it in Britain Great Britain.

671
00:37:26.320 --> 00:37:29.800
Dozens of citizens are arrested every day for just complaining

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00:37:29.800 --> 00:37:32.960
about immigration. And while the government brings in thousands of

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00:37:33.119 --> 00:37:36.199
Muslim young men of military age and puts them in

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00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:39.159
barracks is all around the country. And when they rape

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00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:43.079
Native girls, if the Native girls complain about it, or

676
00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:46.400
their family complains about it. The people complaining get longer

677
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prison sentences than the rapists exactly.

678
00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:51.440
Well, and look what else is going on. The farmers

679
00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:56.480
are revolting there, John, They're bringing the government of England

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to its knees.

681
00:37:57.599 --> 00:38:01.599
Well, I hope so that government I would not see

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anything about the farms.

683
00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:07.880
Oh my god. They they have stormed the Beastille in tractors. John.

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They got thousands of tractors that have gone there and

685
00:38:11.639 --> 00:38:14.360
they've stopped the government. They're actually in a way, they're

686
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:17.840
doing a siege ramp against the government. Wow.

687
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:21.440
Well, I tell you the situation in Great Britain is

688
00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:23.760
so bad that I don't think there's any way of

689
00:38:23.800 --> 00:38:27.159
avoiding an eventual civil war. And the government is on

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the side of Muslim colonists. They're colonizing the place with

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00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:35.960
foreigners who will vote their way and for militias. I mean,

692
00:38:36.199 --> 00:38:40.480
this is it's it's like what the US cavalry did

693
00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:43.719
to the American Indians in the Midwest, where you're just

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taking land and resettling it with popwood settlers who will

695
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:48.599
obey your orders, who will be on your side. It

696
00:38:48.719 --> 00:38:52.639
is that blatant. It's basically an act of genocide. Genocide

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00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:55.280
by Western governments against Western peoples.

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Well, we got to go to quick Break, stay with us.

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kind of put a rap on what we were talking

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about here with you know, what's going on in London,

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I mean it poor tends to what's happening here in

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the West. I mean, it is amazing to say how

799
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quickly this this crippled, you know, London. It's amazing to me.

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Well, we saw what our masterclass had in mind, what

801
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our rulers had in mind, when Joe Biden just opened

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the borders to all comers and ten twenty million people

803
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flooded the country. And now judges are illegally stopping Donald

804
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Trump from deporting even a few thousand of them. And

805
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there's a wave of violence against ICE officers. It's something

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like an eight hundred percent email.

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No, it's over over twelve hundred percent.

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Now, John over twelve hundred percent, and it's being justified.

809
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Maxine Waters called the removal of the legal immigrants ethnic cleansing.

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U a bishop and a Catholic bishop in West Virginia

811
00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:13.239
compared ICE officers to Nazi concentration camp guards. Now, what's

812
00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:16.320
what is it legitimate to shoot Nazi guards? Well, then

813
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I guess in this uh, with that argument, it's legitimate

814
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to shoot ice officers. This is is domestic terrorism that

815
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is being justified by our ruling classes and our pastors

816
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and our bishops and our media. We're what we're seeing

817
00:45:33.199 --> 00:45:36.840
is something it's a color revolution, you know, like the

818
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US used to do in Latin America, our CIA would

819
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overthrow governments that we thought might be leaning communists. Uh,

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our CIA didn't give up on overthrowing governments and sent

821
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and controlling the media. Mike Benz everybody should follow him

822
00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:56.079
on YouTube. Mike Benz. He is a former former intelligence guy.

823
00:45:56.280 --> 00:46:01.599
He said, when the Berlin Wall fell, Western intelligence agencies

824
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turn their gaze on their native populations, on controlling their

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native populations, on stopping conservative Christian patriotic political parties from

826
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taking power, censoring them in the media. And now we

827
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see huge majorities support these conservative parties, even in France

828
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and Germany, and they're outlawing the parties, they're putting the

829
00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:28.280
candidates in prison, they're censoring the media. What we have

830
00:46:28.559 --> 00:46:34.559
are dictatorships coming to power, gradually closing off every means

831
00:46:34.559 --> 00:46:38.119
of descent in countries that we thought were free. Much

832
00:46:38.119 --> 00:46:41.199
of NATO is now as bad as the Warsaw Pact

833
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used to be, and we're supposed to support them. We're

834
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supposed to defend them and send our troops to fight

835
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for them. Donald Trump's recent national security document. Everyone should

836
00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:54.400
find get hold of the official national security document issued

837
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by the President last week. It's all about how NATO

838
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is turning into the Warsaw Pact right, and it's persecuting

839
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its people. It's doing worse, worse than the Soviet Union.

840
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The Soviet Union never imported millions of foreign colonists to

841
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come in and replace the native population. Even Communism wasn't

842
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as insane as what's being done now in the name

843
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of diversity in Europe, and Pope Leo is defending it.

844
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He had the nerve, I have a piece of stream

845
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dot org about this. Pope Leo the nerve to say,

846
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anyone who's afraid of Muslims, Muslim immigrants, you're you're just wrong.

847
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I mean, look, we live in peace with Muslims in Lebanon,

848
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he pointed to Lebanon. Lebanon was a majority Catholic country

849
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set up as a refuge for Middle Eastern Christians because

850
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of immigration, mostly of Palestinians. Christians are now twenty five

851
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percent of the population and they live in terror. They

852
00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:54.760
are persecuted by Muslim militias. The country went from being

853
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a playground, vacation playground to a hellhole. Used to say

854
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that Beroot was the Paris of the Middle East. Well,

855
00:48:03.800 --> 00:48:08.400
now because of Muslim immigration. Paris is becoming the bay

856
00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:12.440
root of Europe. Well, the Pope supports all this.

857
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Yeah, look at look at the numbers here, Johan. In

858
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twenty ten, the Muslim population in the United Kingdom was

859
00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:24.239
two point eight million. They're projecting by the year twenty

860
00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:29.159
thirty four years from now, it'll be five point five million,

861
00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:31.719
which is an increase of ninety four percent.

862
00:48:32.280 --> 00:48:33.920
And they have a much higher birth rate.

863
00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:37.000
Well, of course, yeah, because they're you know, they're they're

864
00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:38.360
spitting them out like biscuits.

865
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And because they don't have any they don't have any

866
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respect for women except as breeders of new Muslim soldiers.

867
00:48:48.199 --> 00:48:50.400
That's how they see. They treat the women the way

868
00:48:50.440 --> 00:48:52.480
we treat factory farm chickens.

869
00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:55.920
Yes, that's their plan and strategy. And you look at

870
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these numbers that has been put out. This this is

871
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according to the Copenhagen protocols. And it's it's amazing. I mean,

872
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everything is. It's there's nothing less than I think forty percent.

873
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Everything is forty up to a high of one hundred

874
00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:17.199
and forty six percent in New Zealand, for example. You

875
00:49:17.239 --> 00:49:20.360
know the projective growth even in New Zealand, John of

876
00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:21.119
all places.

877
00:49:21.320 --> 00:49:25.559
Well, they you know, jihad is the central pillar of Islam.

878
00:49:25.760 --> 00:49:29.599
Religious war is their sacrament. It's their equivalent of the

879
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Great Commission.

880
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Or the Eucharist.

881
00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:36.039
And they have multiple forms of jihad. There's military jihad,

882
00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:40.000
spiritual jihad. They also talked about the jihad of immigration,

883
00:49:40.719 --> 00:49:44.000
where you settle non Muslim countries with Muslims, and then

884
00:49:44.039 --> 00:49:47.679
the Jihad of the cradle, where you outbreed non Muslims

885
00:49:47.719 --> 00:49:51.000
and then you take over and you subject everyone to

886
00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:57.480
third class Jim Crow regulations, special taxes, special laws restricting

887
00:49:57.519 --> 00:50:02.119
non Muslim behavior, intended according to the Quran, to humiliate

888
00:50:02.320 --> 00:50:06.000
and subjugate non Muslims so that they eventually give up

889
00:50:06.039 --> 00:50:09.239
and convert. And that is how countries like Syria and

890
00:50:09.400 --> 00:50:13.199
Egypt and Tunisia and Morocco, which were once Christian countries

891
00:50:13.360 --> 00:50:16.119
were turned into Muslim countries. That's what happened in Turkey,

892
00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:19.480
and that's what they intend for the entire world, because

893
00:50:19.480 --> 00:50:21.440
their goal is a Muslim planet.

894
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:25.239
Well, this historic policy paper that Trump put out that

895
00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:31.960
you refer to, again, not surprised the mainstream media could

896
00:50:32.039 --> 00:50:34.280
care less. I mean they're not even curious about this.

897
00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:36.440
I mean, you see what's going on. I mean, even

898
00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:39.440
the reports on what's going on England, Like I told you,

899
00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:41.920
very few people are aware of what's going on, what

900
00:50:41.960 --> 00:50:46.280
the farmers are doing there because you know Starmar well,

901
00:50:46.360 --> 00:50:49.239
he you know, said hey, we're going to tax the

902
00:50:49.280 --> 00:50:52.199
holy what have you out of the farmers. Basically he's

903
00:50:52.199 --> 00:50:54.880
stealing their farms. Just what you said, Yeah, you know,

904
00:50:55.039 --> 00:50:58.079
through taxation. He's stealing their farms away. And the farmers

905
00:50:58.079 --> 00:51:01.719
have said hell no. And tractors are there in Britain

906
00:51:02.039 --> 00:51:05.440
and they're blocking up their siege working. And so this

907
00:51:05.519 --> 00:51:08.760
is all, you know again, part and parcel and indicative

908
00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:12.199
of what Trump is warning about. And the mainstream media

909
00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:16.039
lacks curiosity and interest. I mean, what you're talking about here, John,

910
00:51:16.039 --> 00:51:21.960
that NATO is wrapping up its its tent tier is NATO.

911
00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:25.920
NATO has become an anti American alliance and an anti

912
00:51:26.000 --> 00:51:28.480
Christian alliance, and we should we should walk away from

913
00:51:28.519 --> 00:51:35.360
it tomorrow. Let them defend themselves, let them prosecute their stupid,

914
00:51:35.360 --> 00:51:37.119
pointless war in Ukraine.

915
00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:40.360
Or give up exactly. But there's no wonder why we're

916
00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:43.079
not satisfying and being able to take care of the

917
00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:44.960
Ukraine Russian war.

918
00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:48.360
Right, Well, that should have been. That should never have happened.

919
00:51:48.360 --> 00:51:52.440
That only happened because our deep state overthrew a legitimate,

920
00:51:52.599 --> 00:51:55.760
democratically elected Ukrainian government because they thought it was too

921
00:51:55.760 --> 00:52:01.400
pro Russian. And then they honeycombed the Ukrainian establishment with

922
00:52:01.480 --> 00:52:06.199
CIA officers, and they started opening abortion clinics and transgender

923
00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:10.039
clinics and trying to transform Ukraine in the image of

924
00:52:10.159 --> 00:52:15.639
San Francisco and Berkeley, California, and try to shoehorn Ukraine

925
00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:20.880
into NATO, into a nuclear military alliance that's aimed at Russia.

926
00:52:21.519 --> 00:52:25.079
That was the equivalent of when Nikita Kristjeff tried to

927
00:52:25.119 --> 00:52:29.039
put Soviet missiles in Cuba and John F. Kennedy was

928
00:52:29.079 --> 00:52:31.760
ready to start World War Three to get those missiles

929
00:52:31.800 --> 00:52:34.599
out of Cuba. It's no surprise that Pewtin was willing

930
00:52:34.639 --> 00:52:37.920
to invade Ukraine to stop Ukraine from joining NATO. We

931
00:52:37.960 --> 00:52:41.840
would not like Mexico to join an alliance with China.

932
00:52:42.039 --> 00:52:45.280
We would not tolerate that. No more would putin tolerate

933
00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:49.119
Ukraine in NATO. The whole thing was ginned up. Almost

934
00:52:49.159 --> 00:52:52.440
a million Europeans are dead or crippled as a result

935
00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:55.679
of this pointless war. That is the fault of Joe

936
00:52:55.679 --> 00:52:59.599
Biden and ultimately traceable to election fraud. And what's happening

937
00:52:59.639 --> 00:53:02.960
in Ventezuela is really important because the government of Venezuela,

938
00:53:03.039 --> 00:53:07.679
the communist dictatorship there, took power through election fraud using

939
00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:11.400
software from this company called Smartmatic that later was acquired

940
00:53:11.400 --> 00:53:15.400
by Dominion. And now we have whistleblowers, former spy chiefs

941
00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:19.559
of Venezuela writing letters to Trump saying our software can

942
00:53:19.599 --> 00:53:22.000
be used to steal elections. We know it is being

943
00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:25.719
used to steal elections around the world, including in America.

944
00:53:25.800 --> 00:53:28.360
So I over seventy countries, John, Yeah, yeah.

945
00:53:28.400 --> 00:53:31.719
So Trump is trying to overthrow the Venezuelan government in

946
00:53:31.880 --> 00:53:35.119
order to get proof of that election fraud so he

947
00:53:35.239 --> 00:53:38.559
can proved not only that the twenty twenty election was stolen,

948
00:53:38.800 --> 00:53:40.920
but that the midterms are probably going to be stolen.

949
00:53:40.960 --> 00:53:44.559
The next presidential election might be stolen because the software

950
00:53:44.679 --> 00:53:49.559
currently in place all across America was written by Venezuelan

951
00:53:49.639 --> 00:53:53.599
communists using China and is installed on Chinese made computers

952
00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:56.320
with all sorts of back doors open to where it

953
00:53:56.360 --> 00:53:59.760
can be the results can be altered from foreign countries.

954
00:53:59.840 --> 00:54:02.639
We now know the only reason the twenty twenty four

955
00:54:02.719 --> 00:54:06.079
election wasn't stolen. Was that a server farm in Serbia

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government will fall and we will find all the proof

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Good morning, Welcome six minutes after the top of the hour.

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Right now, Bill Martinez here with doctor David Mantick. He's

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written a new book. JFK was killed by consensus. Neely

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Plaza was just the final stop, Doctor Mansick. Welcome to show.

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Good to have you with.

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Us, Yes, good morning.

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Well, Uh, the jfcass out of here we are you know,

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six decades plus later, you know, the search for you know,

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the truth behind the JFK assassination has developed into a

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cottage industry, doctor Mansick, and everybody has, you know, a

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different idea. What you bring to this discussion is so important.

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As a forensic radiologist and physicist, you personally reviewed Jaffk's

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original autopsy X rays at the National Archives. You used

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optical density analysis and X ray overlays. Uh, to, you know,

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get down to the truth of the matter, things that

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you know have been hidden from the American people.

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Yes, so, over nine full days at the National Archives,

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I took hundreds of measurements. In fact, I have three

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full notebooks worth of data. Wow.

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So, and were you surprised that they let you stay

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that long?

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I was a little surprised. I had to twist their

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arms a little bit, but eventually I got in and

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it was a full day each time. I was there

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for nine days.

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Well, this is this has been something you know. You know,

1031
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probably you and I are of similar rage, and we

1032
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you know, I've grown up with the JFK assassination and

1033
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have interviewed probably close to a dozen people, all very

1034
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accomplished and very wise with their own ideas. But still

1035
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we're just you know, I've been waiting for that final answer,

1036
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you know, to the JFK assassination, because there's been so

1037
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much of a false narrative that was dropped into the

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minds of people on that faithful day going forward.

1039
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Right, Yes, during the first week after the assassination, false

1040
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data was planted into the case. And that includes the

1041
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autopsy X rays and the autopsy photographs as well In fact,

1042
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the official conclusion was based on two items that the

1043
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autopsy pathologists did not even see at the autopsy. One

1044
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was a six point five millimeters apparent bullet cross section

1045
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on the frontal X ray, and the second one was

1046
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a red spot on the back of his head in

1047
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the photographs that no one saw at the autopsy and

1048
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no one saw at Parkland either. So the official conclusion

1049
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is based on two totally illusory facts or facts of fakes,

1050
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I should.

1051
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Say, right, fakes, yeah, facts in their own mind. Yes,

1052
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they tried to convince everybody of I mean. And the

1053
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fact that they basically confiscated the body before a proper

1054
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autopsy could be could be effected there in Dallas.

1055
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Right, yeah, illegally that was an illegal move.

1056
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Right, And so again this just says where where our

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government is and what is it that they were hiding

1058
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and have been hiding these sixty two years.

1059
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Well, the x rays and the photographs originally would have

1060
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clearly shown that there was a large hole in the

1061
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back of JFK's head near the right occiput. Anybody who

1062
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saw that, and lots of people did at the autopsy

1063
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and at Parkland, they were all convinced that he had

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been killed by a frontal shot. Of course Oswald was

1065
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behind him, so that wouldn't fit. It would clearly mean

1066
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that there was at least one gunman firing from the front.

1067
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Right, because had it been from the back, the hole

1068
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in the back of his head would have been less significant.

1069
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Let's say that way, absolutely right, right, And so so

1070
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this is you know, this really is problematic. So your

1071
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analysis of these original X rays reveal the trajectory of

1072
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the fatal shot. It's conclusive, no doubt in your mind whatsoever.

1073
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No, let me give you a little example. There was

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there were three fatal headshots, actually, but the one that

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is most obvious from the X rays came in near

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the right forehead, right near the hairline. And the reason

1077
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we know that is that we can see tiny metallic

1078
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fragments on the X rays on both left and right laterals,

1079
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and you don't get tiny metallic fragments from a shot

1080
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from the rear. These tiny pieces do not travel that far.

1081
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This absolutely means they had to come from the front.

1082
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And when you additionally look at the photograph, you could

1083
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see at the same site a scalpel incision which the

1084
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pathologists made right over that wound. So as to obscure it.

1085
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So we have absolutely definitive evidence of a frontal shot

1086
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right near the forehead at the hairline, and we have

1087
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eyewitnesses to this also both at Parkland and at Bethesda

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where the autopsy was done. This wound appeared in original

1089
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photographs that were taken at Bethesda, so there's virtually no

1090
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doubt that he was hit at least once from the front.

1091
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When you said that the scalpel was utilized in such

1092
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a way to manipulate evidence, was that done at Parkland

1093
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or was that done in DC.

1094
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No, that had to be done at the autopsy. In fact, Boswell,

1095
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who was one of the pathologists, described it quite precisely

1096
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as a quote insized wound end. Quote does not mean

1097
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a bullet. An incision means a scalpel, and the wound

1098
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is not caused by a scalpel. A wound is caused

1099
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by a bullet. So basically Boswell gave the game away.

1100
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Right, Doctor Mantik. The fact that you had metallic elements

1101
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that were were realized there and that you know in

1102
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the part of the skull, does that say also that

1103
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the shot was closer than from behind in the top

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of the building.

1105
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I don't think that X ray evidence tells us how

1106
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far away the gunman was. Now, if that's what you're asking.

1107
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Well, I'm just thinking, you know, why would the metallic

1108
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show up on the side as opposed to from behind.

1109
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Maybe I'm asking the wrong question, Maybe I misunderstood.

1110
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Well, there is a bullet trail of metallic debris that

1111
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extends from the front of the skull going backward. It

1112
01:03:55.559 --> 01:03:59.079
doesn't quite go to the absolute rear of the skull,

1113
01:03:59.199 --> 01:04:02.719
but it's absolute much more consistent with the final shot. Now,

1114
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with respect to that posterger shot that the pathologists described,

1115
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and I agree with, there is no metallic trail associated

1116
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with that at all.

1117
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Now, clearly this real shot narrative just phades with the evidence,

1118
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doesn't it.

1119
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Yeah, it's totally consistent with everything we know about this case.

1120
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Now, of course, we're in the middle of a Cold

1121
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War in nineteen sixty three. How could that have influenced

1122
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1123
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influence did that have?

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Well, the Cold War was the relevant theme of the day,

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that's for sure. The original plotters were quite sure wanted

1126
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invade Cuba, so the onus would have on the Cubans

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and indirectly on the Russians as well. However, the motive,

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so the supposed motive, i should say, was changed by

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LBJ and the higher ups because they didn't want to

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Yeah, exactly, Well, we've got to go to quick Break,

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Welcome back. I'm Bill Martinez. He's davidmantic Doctor David Mantick.

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Well.

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He comes with receipts and with a background that is

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extremely informative as a forensic radiologist and physicist personally review

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JFK's original autopsy x rays at the National Archives, as

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we reported earlier, for nine days. So as you are

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reviewing all this evidence and seeing the conflict of the

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Warrant Commission and other studies that followed doctor Mantick, it

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almost it seems that the studies after the Warrant Commission

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didn't really bring any more light. Is almost like they

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were trying to, I don't know, lend some support to

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a false narrative.

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Yes, I discussed this in my book, especially in the introduction.

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The Rockefeller Commission, of course, was led by Nelson Rockefeller,

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who actually assumes a rather major role in my book,

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I even record a conversation that supposedly occurred between Nelson

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Rockefeller and Jay Edgar Hoover about how they were going

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to cover this up afterwards, and I give the sources

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for that. Nelson Rockefeller, of course was very involved in

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the nineteen fifty three Guatemala who as well. He had

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huge financial investments there, and so he was kept informed

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about each step of the coup, so he was really

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an insider. To make this it's even more interesting about

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01:12:01.319 --> 01:12:05.199
Nelson Rockefeller. He was a very good friend of General

1248
01:12:05.560 --> 01:12:11.720
ed Lansdale, who I believe was the guy in charge

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01:12:11.880 --> 01:12:15.399
of the assassination teams in Dealey Plaza. But of course

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after the Rockefeller Commission, we had the House Select Committee

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on Assassinations in the seventies, who really just threw a

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lot of confusion into this story. And I summarized that

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in my book. And then finally, of course, we had

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the Assassination Records Review Board in the nineties, which finally

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gave us a lot of the medical evidence which was

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very key to unraveling this case.

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Doctor Mantick. And of course this is outside of your expertise,

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but as you were looking at this and along the way,

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I keep thinking, we're going to find who was the

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one you mentioned was Lansdale? Was his name?

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Yeah? Lansdale, Ed Lansdale.

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Yeah.

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Well, let me insert a very odd fact into the story.

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The publisher my book wrote the publishers forward and he

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tells us that his father was a colleague of Ed Lansdale.

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What an amazing coincidence. I did not know this when

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I writing my book.

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Right, uh So, But you know, I keep thinking, we're

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going to find you know, it's like, you know, like

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with Nixon, you know, you had deep throat. There was something.

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There was some pivotal, pivotal individual who had orchestrated this

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that said, Okay, we've got to we've got to assassinate JFK.

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Well, we do have a number one suspect, that's for sure.

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If you're asking that.

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Question, Yes, I am, I am, I'm asking that question.

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General Charles Willoughby, who was second in command in the

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Pacific Theater during World War Two. He served directly under

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Douglas MacArthur. He knew all the right people. He spoke Spanish,

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so he knew the anti Castro Cubans, he knew Otto Skorzini,

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01:13:58.560 --> 01:14:03.960
the master of his fascinations with headquarters in Spain. Willoughby

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had visited there, and Willoughby had worked closely with Lansdale

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in the Philippines to suppress a Philippine insurrection. So these

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people all knew each other. So if you want a

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number one suspect, you cannot find anyone better suited with

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all the right credentials than Charles Willoughby, who also knew

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Jaeger Hoover and communicated regularly with.

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Him when he had that kind of force and influence

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to control. I mean, in this case, the FBI and

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the CIA, because you know, when you say consensus again,

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you know everything that I've been reading over the years. Boy,

1291
01:14:44.800 --> 01:14:47.399
there's lots of fingers and lots of conjecture here.

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Yeah. My book is mainly about relationships about who knew

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who and what they believed. Uh. Ultimately, LBJ had to

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be the lynchpin, as I would call him, behind all

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of this. He had to be in charge of all

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the cover ups in the government agencies such as the CIA,

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the FBI, and the Secret Service. And I outline a

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very strong case that he had foreign knowledge. I don't

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think he had detailed knowledge of how this was going

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to happen, but he knew when it was going to happen,

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because we show photographs of him ducking just before the

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shots rang out in Dally Plaza.

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Yeah. The other thing that's quite interesting is there's that

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iconic photo of George H. Walker Bush and at that

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01:15:35.279 --> 01:15:39.399
point he's with the CIA, and he's there right there

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at Daily Plaza.

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Yeah, and he was informed right after the assassination. He

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was kept in the loop by the CIA. That definitely

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was George Herbert Walker Bush. There's no other Bush in

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the CIA who fits that picture. And in my book,

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01:15:57.520 --> 01:16:03.119
I also very clearly note all the strange and weird

1312
01:16:03.279 --> 01:16:07.640
characters that George Herbert Walker Bush knew and associated with.

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I can't pin this on George. We don't have enough

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01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:13.880
objective evidence, but he surely knew a lot of the

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people who were in the background in this case.

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01:16:18.439 --> 01:16:20.439
Well. And that's the thing that's amazing, is that you

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01:16:20.560 --> 01:16:26.520
have this association of people who are aware and know,

1318
01:16:26.720 --> 01:16:29.720
but it's just being able to get something there that sticks.

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01:16:29.880 --> 01:16:32.439
It's interesting right now because here in the modern era,

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we have an attempted assassination on a presidential candidate, as

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you know, in Butler, Pennsylvania, and all of a sudden

1322
01:16:41.039 --> 01:16:44.399
they're reporting that this shooter was the lone gunman, and

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it's like, oh my god, this is Oswald Dejavou part two.

1324
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Yeah, the lone gunman rings loudly throughout history. I made

1325
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the point that this month we noted the thirtieth anniversary

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01:16:59.279 --> 01:17:02.640
of the assass nation of Yitzak Rabin, who happened to

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be in Dallas on the day that Kennedy was shot.

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Can you imagine that? But there was a lone gunman

1329
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in that case, and of course he did not really

1330
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kill Yitzac Rabin. Either it was someone.

1331
01:17:13.399 --> 01:17:19.399
Else, right, yeah, And so it's interesting because it seems

1332
01:17:19.439 --> 01:17:21.560
like it's expedient to be able to say there's a

1333
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loan gunman, right.

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Yeah. The plotters in this case are sent by the

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elite of their society to presumably save their society from traders,

1336
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so they have to cover their tracks, and the easiest

1337
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way to do this is depended on one relatively innocent man,

1338
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although in this case I don't think Oswald was totally innocent.

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He said I'm a patsy, so that implies that he

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knew something.

1341
01:17:50.039 --> 01:17:52.039
Right. No, there was no doubt about it. In fact,

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I still wonder between me and you, I asked this

1343
01:17:54.479 --> 01:17:57.600
question if he was the act if he actually was

1344
01:17:57.640 --> 01:17:59.399
the one who killed Officer Tippett.

1345
01:18:00.159 --> 01:18:03.279
No, that's almost certainly not true. There were many doubles

1346
01:18:03.479 --> 01:18:08.000
in Dallas during the weeks and months before the event,

1347
01:18:08.640 --> 01:18:12.640
and almost certainly one of the doubles was responsible for this.

1348
01:18:13.319 --> 01:18:18.199
And we have a pretty good idea who these characters were.

1349
01:18:18.199 --> 01:18:22.119
There were probably more than there was, probably more than one.

1350
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Carrie Thornley and William Seymour are often identified. So I

1351
01:18:27.159 --> 01:18:29.680
show a photograph of William Seymour in my book.

1352
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Was this all attached to the military industrial complex in

1353
01:18:33.960 --> 01:18:34.960
some form or fashion.

1354
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Yeah, the military industrial intelligence complex. I would say these

1355
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people all knew each other. Their relationships were really ancient.

1356
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For example, Burris, Colonel Burris, was the military aide to LBJ.

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Burris and LBJ had known each other for decades. Burris

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was a Texas oil man, so he knew all the

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oilmen and he was in the military as well. So

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Burris just knows all these people too, and he was

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right next to LBJ regularly advising him on what to do.

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As you said early on, it's still about the money

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in greed, right, is very important.

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Yeah. I discussed the money that Bell helicopter, for example,

1365
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made during the Vietnam War. It was many billions of dollars,

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much more than they've made in relative dollars than any

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year since. So money was a very big deal. And

1368
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of course the oilmen were extremely worried about the oil

1369
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depletion allowance. JK was threatening to take that away, but

1370
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of course once he was shot, they kept it and

1371
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therefore made hundreds of billions of dollars over the succeeding years.

1372
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Money was a huge issue for them.

1373
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Right exactly, and as much as Vietnam as well.

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Vietnam was a big income earner for the war related corporations.

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They made money hands over fifths.

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Well, doctor Mantik, cannot thank you enough. I mean, this

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is a great book. JFK was killed by consensus. Dealey

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Plaza was just the final stop. As you write, doctor Mantick,

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as I said, as a forensic radiologist, a physicist and

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personally reviewed JFK's original autopsy x rays at the National

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for Patriots, Hey.

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Good morning, welcome back. Good to have you with us,

1459
01:24:37.399 --> 01:24:40.000
Bill Martin this year, and we got Chef George Duran

1460
01:24:40.119 --> 01:24:41.960
going to be up with us in just a moment.

1461
01:24:42.039 --> 01:24:46.880
We're talking holiday entertainment made deliciously easy. And let me

1462
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tell you, he's got all the goods. A chef and

1463
01:24:49.199 --> 01:24:52.960
lifestyle expert, George Duran, He's here to tell us all

1464
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about it, especially if you're looking for ways to deck

1465
01:24:55.239 --> 01:24:58.039
out your holiday menu this year. And who isn't right

1466
01:24:58.239 --> 01:25:01.279
We want to be the champ of these holiday parties well,

1467
01:25:01.319 --> 01:25:05.359
from festive recipe ideas and time saving kitchen tips to

1468
01:25:05.640 --> 01:25:08.279
hitting the reset button after the holiday rush. The chef

1469
01:25:08.279 --> 01:25:11.479
and TV personality and George Duran knows just what it

1470
01:25:11.560 --> 01:25:15.119
takes to make holiday hosting. Mary and Brian, George, good

1471
01:25:15.159 --> 01:25:16.439
to have you back with us. How are you?

1472
01:25:17.079 --> 01:25:19.159
Thanks for having me on? Bill, I'm great.

1473
01:25:19.600 --> 01:25:22.159
Well, I'm excited to talk. I love the holiday. I

1474
01:25:22.199 --> 01:25:25.079
love everything that goes with the holiday, the whole spirit,

1475
01:25:25.479 --> 01:25:28.640
the festivity, family, friends, and of course food.

1476
01:25:29.680 --> 01:25:31.800
Oh my goodness, food has got to be number one.

1477
01:25:31.800 --> 01:25:31.960
There.

1478
01:25:32.000 --> 01:25:33.720
You used to you didn't start with food, and that's

1479
01:25:33.760 --> 01:25:35.439
that's that's problematic.

1480
01:25:34.920 --> 01:25:35.279
There, Bill.

1481
01:25:35.359 --> 01:25:37.720
Well, I'm i'm I'm I'm watching my weight, so I

1482
01:25:38.000 --> 01:25:39.359
have to push that down a little bit.

1483
01:25:40.279 --> 01:25:43.000
Yeah, I'm watching everybody else's weight, not just not mine.

1484
01:25:43.319 --> 01:25:46.520
Well I get that. Hey, let's talk about the must

1485
01:25:46.560 --> 01:25:49.279
have treats that you've got set for us for the

1486
01:25:49.319 --> 01:25:50.479
holiday party spread.

1487
01:25:51.279 --> 01:25:53.119
Yeah, you know, one treat I feel should be in

1488
01:25:53.159 --> 01:25:56.079
every single stocking this holiday season has gotta be gar

1489
01:25:56.159 --> 01:25:59.319
Delly Peppermint Bark. It sparks pure delight when my kids

1490
01:25:59.359 --> 01:26:02.840
discover it and their stockings every year. The chocolate inside

1491
01:26:02.920 --> 01:26:04.920
is fantastic. I love putting it in a bowl. Also

1492
01:26:05.079 --> 01:26:08.159
because this premium chocolate is perfect for guests and entertaining.

1493
01:26:08.399 --> 01:26:11.399
You can really taste that hoigh quality ingredients with every bite,

1494
01:26:11.439 --> 01:26:14.720
and it's fantastic crumpled over desserts, like even this trifle

1495
01:26:14.760 --> 01:26:16.560
over here that I've made. And heads up, it's only

1496
01:26:16.560 --> 01:26:19.079
available for a limited time each year, so you want

1497
01:26:19.079 --> 01:26:20.359
to have it ready for.

1498
01:26:20.319 --> 01:26:22.239
The holiday table, you gotta grab it fast.

1499
01:26:22.720 --> 01:26:24.760
Yeah, there's just something special. I mean, ever since the

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01:26:24.760 --> 01:26:28.199
first time I was introduced to Jared Elli holiday Oh

1501
01:26:28.239 --> 01:26:31.359
my goodness, I mean, it's just it is something I

1502
01:26:31.399 --> 01:26:32.600
look forward to every year.

1503
01:26:32.680 --> 01:26:36.359
Right, It's quality, quality chocolate, and they're so beautiful.

1504
01:26:36.399 --> 01:26:37.520
The packaging is gorgeous.

1505
01:26:37.640 --> 01:26:40.199
But you know, it's like a really wonderful treat and

1506
01:26:40.239 --> 01:26:42.640
you look at the ingredients, quality ingredients.

1507
01:26:42.720 --> 01:26:44.960
This is how chocolate to truly be well.

1508
01:26:45.000 --> 01:26:48.560
Don't you love it? Also, when the packaging says Christmas,

1509
01:26:48.640 --> 01:26:52.840
it says the Holidays, it says joy and all the festivities.

1510
01:26:52.880 --> 01:26:55.960
I mean, it's you know, it just adds to the decoration,

1511
01:26:56.119 --> 01:26:58.439
compliments to what's already there in the house in a

1512
01:26:58.520 --> 01:27:00.600
very special way, doesn't it.

1513
01:27:00.600 --> 01:27:01.239
It really does.

1514
01:27:01.279 --> 01:27:03.520
It shines through and the snowflakes and the red and

1515
01:27:03.520 --> 01:27:05.560
the white and the silveriness to it.

1516
01:27:05.560 --> 01:27:07.279
It really screams the Holidays.

1517
01:27:07.640 --> 01:27:09.840
Yeah, I'm with you on it. How about some simple

1518
01:27:09.880 --> 01:27:12.079
dessert ideas that you can share with us today?

1519
01:27:12.600 --> 01:27:12.800
Yeah?

1520
01:27:12.840 --> 01:27:15.279
You know, when it comes to homemade recipes, I kind

1521
01:27:15.279 --> 01:27:18.800
of love adding small touches with every classic bite.

1522
01:27:18.520 --> 01:27:20.279
So it gets a little bit more elevated.

1523
01:27:20.279 --> 01:27:21.520
And one of the things I like to use is

1524
01:27:21.640 --> 01:27:25.520
president whipped crem to create festive pies or even hot cocoa.

1525
01:27:25.840 --> 01:27:28.720
Just a quick dollup adds a beautiful, creamy finish that

1526
01:27:28.800 --> 01:27:31.800
feels kind of restaurant worthy with no effort. So it's

1527
01:27:31.840 --> 01:27:35.399
made with an authentic Chantilly recipe and contains no corn

1528
01:27:35.439 --> 01:27:37.960
syrup so it has that fresh balance flavor and depending

1529
01:27:37.960 --> 01:27:39.760
on the vibe you're going for. You can use the

1530
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extra creamy for a rich, fluffy texture, or the Madagascar.

1531
01:27:42.840 --> 01:27:44.720
Vanilla for just the hint of sweetness.

1532
01:27:44.720 --> 01:27:47.039
It's really an easy way to take drinks and desserts

1533
01:27:47.079 --> 01:27:50.199
to a whole different level ready for the holidays. And

1534
01:27:50.239 --> 01:27:52.079
you know, there's one thing I always remind people during

1535
01:27:52.119 --> 01:27:54.039
the holidays to do too. I always have to say this,

1536
01:27:54.720 --> 01:27:56.840
when milk feels like it's running out, you can have

1537
01:27:56.880 --> 01:28:00.560
this mini emergency, especially for cookies and baking proper. And

1538
01:28:00.600 --> 01:28:03.800
that's why I love keeping parmelt on hand. It's real milk,

1539
01:28:03.960 --> 01:28:06.800
just smarter, giving you that freedom to enjoy milk on

1540
01:28:07.000 --> 01:28:09.199
there on your schedule and avoid that last minute run

1541
01:28:09.239 --> 01:28:11.239
to the store. And because it's chef stable, you don't

1542
01:28:11.239 --> 01:28:13.840
have to refrigerate it until it's opened. Of course, it's

1543
01:28:13.880 --> 01:28:17.239
really a true pantry stable for me, like flour, sugar, salt,

1544
01:28:17.640 --> 01:28:20.239
parme lot, it's always there. So if you're pairing it

1545
01:28:20.239 --> 01:28:23.319
with cookies or baking holiday treats, parmel lot really helps

1546
01:28:23.439 --> 01:28:25.720
end those milk emergencies. And of course you can find

1547
01:28:25.760 --> 01:28:28.720
those in the baking isle of major retailers right well.

1548
01:28:28.760 --> 01:28:31.680
That's a that's a great idea. I gotta tell you

1549
01:28:31.720 --> 01:28:34.119
that I'm really upset with you, George, because you told

1550
01:28:34.119 --> 01:28:38.279
me about the President's whip cream last time and I

1551
01:28:38.920 --> 01:28:42.640
become addicted. I'm going to therapy. They're going to have

1552
01:28:42.640 --> 01:28:45.039
an intervention. My family's gonna have an intervention with me

1553
01:28:45.399 --> 01:28:46.800
because that is so good.

1554
01:28:48.000 --> 01:28:50.039
It is. And that's because it's real cream. Like it's

1555
01:28:50.079 --> 01:28:50.920
real whipped cream.

1556
01:28:50.960 --> 01:28:52.520
I mean, that's what that's what you're having in and

1557
01:28:52.600 --> 01:28:54.479
it's this is this is the pleasures in life, and

1558
01:28:54.520 --> 01:28:57.199
now during the holidays, go ahead, enjoy it. This is

1559
01:28:57.239 --> 01:28:59.119
this is the time to really enjoy these pleasures.

1560
01:28:59.399 --> 01:29:01.159
And I love what you say, this real whip cream.

1561
01:29:01.159 --> 01:29:03.960
It's funny because people that are not used to tasting

1562
01:29:04.000 --> 01:29:07.560
real whip cream, when they taste it, it like you

1563
01:29:07.800 --> 01:29:10.119
can see the look on their face like ooh, this

1564
01:29:10.279 --> 01:29:13.319
is interesting. And then as they enjoy it even more,

1565
01:29:13.520 --> 01:29:16.600
it's like, oh my goodness, it hooks you. So gotta

1566
01:29:16.600 --> 01:29:17.079
be careful.

1567
01:29:17.760 --> 01:29:18.680
Yeah, yeah, you know.

1568
01:29:18.720 --> 01:29:20.720
I went to culinary school for three years in France,

1569
01:29:20.720 --> 01:29:23.079
and I'm telling you, the French know their creams.

1570
01:29:23.359 --> 01:29:25.199
This is fantastic whip cream.

1571
01:29:25.800 --> 01:29:28.119
Well tell you that's quite the endorsement. Ladies, and gentlemen,

1572
01:29:29.000 --> 01:29:30.920
let me tell you, you'll try it out and you'll

1573
01:29:30.960 --> 01:29:34.319
be hooked. I mean, my refrigerator is stocked up. I

1574
01:29:34.319 --> 01:29:37.319
gotta tell you for the holiday season. And sometimes it

1575
01:29:37.319 --> 01:29:39.039
talks to me. It says, hey, we're getting low here,

1576
01:29:39.079 --> 01:29:41.199
you know, so you got you gotta stock up again.

1577
01:29:41.279 --> 01:29:43.640
It's that good. What about some ways that we can

1578
01:29:43.680 --> 01:29:46.039
hit the reset button after the holiday rush because we

1579
01:29:46.119 --> 01:29:47.720
need to decompress.

1580
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Right, Oh yeah, absolutely.

1581
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You know, after weeks of cooking, hosting, juggling holiday plans,

1582
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it's really time to reclaim that piece with your closest

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friends and family. And one of my favorite ways to

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multiple bedrooms, so you're all comfortable. It feels like you're

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Right yeah, you know again, one of the biggest problems

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for me is like finding what is it that I

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Well exactly, Georgie. I got to tell you a little

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I was one of these knucklehead type a you know,

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And I think I found myself telling somebody like as

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if I was so proud and arrogant about it that,

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you know, because they were going on vacation. I go,

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you know, I haven't had a vacation in eight years,

1620
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and all of a sudden it stopped me and I go,

1621
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I am an idiot, you know. And of course I

1622
01:31:36.239 --> 01:31:38.039
had two young kids at the time, and I said,

1623
01:31:38.079 --> 01:31:41.000
this is it. I am going on vacation. I got

1624
01:31:41.039 --> 01:31:43.479
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1625
01:31:43.600 --> 01:31:46.479
it was. It was just so fantastic in terms of,

1626
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like you say, decompressing and finding the right place, whether

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it's Hawaii, the beaches of Kawaii or out in the

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mountains in San Bernardino with the snow. And yes, it

1629
01:31:58.239 --> 01:32:00.039
was frightful, but it was so much fun.

1630
01:32:01.279 --> 01:32:02.760
Well, you know, it's really important.

1631
01:32:02.880 --> 01:32:04.920
There's a lot of stress going on right now, making

1632
01:32:04.920 --> 01:32:07.720
sure everything is ready for the holidays. After the holidays,

1633
01:32:07.760 --> 01:32:10.760
it's really good to decompress and to find those moments.

1634
01:32:10.920 --> 01:32:12.399
And I'm glad you have found them.

1635
01:32:12.840 --> 01:32:16.119
Well. Chef George you Rans a multi lingual chef, a

1636
01:32:16.119 --> 01:32:20.119
comedian and host, author of Take This Dish and Twist It.

1637
01:32:20.159 --> 01:32:23.680
I love this. He's known for his foot Food Network

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show Ham on the Street and host of TLC is

1639
01:32:27.560 --> 01:32:30.680
the Ultimate Cakeoff. So a couple of minutes left here,

1640
01:32:30.760 --> 01:32:34.720
let's remind everybody, let's go and recount all these veritable

1641
01:32:35.159 --> 01:32:38.840
dessert ideas and delights for the holiday that will make

1642
01:32:38.880 --> 01:32:40.720
you the hostess with the most of the chef.

1643
01:32:40.760 --> 01:32:42.720
What do you say, Yeah, don't forget.

1644
01:32:42.760 --> 01:32:44.640
You're a daily pepper and bark and I've made a

1645
01:32:44.680 --> 01:32:47.760
gorgeous trifle with it. A wonderful way to serve chocolate

1646
01:32:47.760 --> 01:32:49.880
for the holiday seasons. I mean, you have President Kram

1647
01:32:49.920 --> 01:32:51.720
over here that you can quickly use to add a

1648
01:32:51.760 --> 01:32:54.560
little ext or something elevate any sort of dessert that

1649
01:32:54.600 --> 01:32:57.560
you have. Of course, parme lot on an emergency. It's

1650
01:32:57.600 --> 01:32:59.640
good to have it as shelf stable and it works

1651
01:32:59.640 --> 01:33:02.840
well for go timesharing dot com. Take a break after

1652
01:33:02.840 --> 01:33:05.039
the holidays, that's the place to go to find the

1653
01:33:05.119 --> 01:33:07.600
right place for you to relax and really kind of

1654
01:33:07.880 --> 01:33:08.800
have some me time.

1655
01:33:09.279 --> 01:33:13.319
Well, yeah, exactly, it's all important, chef, have a great Christmas,

1656
01:33:13.319 --> 01:33:15.640
a great holiday for you and the family. And again,

1657
01:33:16.119 --> 01:33:18.399
you're such a blessing to share all these great ideas.

1658
01:33:18.399 --> 01:33:21.199
I know people were taking notes, making a list, checking

1659
01:33:21.199 --> 01:33:24.680
it twice. No naughty. Everything's nice here on this list, right.

1660
01:33:25.600 --> 01:33:27.399
Everything's nice. Stick with me.

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You can even check me out at Chef George Duran

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I am to You can even ask culinary questions.

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Bring it on.

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I'll answer anything you need to answer.

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Yeah, you got it all right, Chef, thanks a lot,

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have a great one, Take.

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Care, Happy holidays, Bill, thank you.

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You got it well. I hope you had as much

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fun as I did. Isn't he whot chefter? I hope

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01:33:46.000 --> 01:33:48.640
you got some great ideas, you know, for you know,

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some holiday dessert idea. Wow, I'll tell you did He

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kind of like get your you know, he had me

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salivating here, But that's what he does. He teases us. Well,

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stay right where you are. Coming up, we're going to

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be talking with mini researches Billy Augustino. Incredible situation here.

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I mean, this is kind of amazing to me that

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only twenty four percent of likely voters know that Charlie

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Kirk's killer was left wing. What does that tell you? Well,

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that tell you's the influence of the mainstream media of

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01:34:17.960 --> 01:34:21.079
the left and of course all night show hosts like

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Jimmy Kimmel who continue on with this whacking narrative once

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it puts out there that you know, Charlie Kirk's killer,

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you know might have been right wing, you know, just

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enough to put just a little bit of doubt and

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some questions in your mind. Anyway, it's all coming up

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Hey, good morning, Welcome back Bill Martinez here along with

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Bill di Augustino from MRC. Hey, Bill, how you doing

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doing great?

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Good to see you, Bill Well.

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Bill is a research analyst for MRC's News Analysis Division,

1770
01:39:29.760 --> 01:39:32.920
and we had him here to talk about is it's

1771
01:39:33.000 --> 01:39:35.960
kind of amazing. I say it's amazing on one hand,

1772
01:39:35.960 --> 01:39:38.279
but I'm I'm really not surprised on the other, Bill,

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01:39:38.640 --> 01:39:41.720
and that is that only twenty four percent of likely

1774
01:39:41.800 --> 01:39:44.920
voters know that Charlie Kirk's killer was left wing.

1775
01:39:46.479 --> 01:39:50.520
Yeah, you know, I want, I want to say that

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I wasn't surprised, but I mean to be honest, I

1777
01:39:54.159 --> 01:39:56.840
think I'm a cynical guy, but that number was low

1778
01:39:56.920 --> 01:39:58.640
to me even I mean, I was shocked.

1779
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The reason the reason I.

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Want to to pull this was because I kept seeing

1781
01:40:02.119 --> 01:40:06.880
all these instances of leftists not just seeming to kind

1782
01:40:06.920 --> 01:40:10.720
of get a sense that the guy who allegedly killed

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Chrellie Kirk Kyler Robinson not just seeming to think that

1784
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he was right wing, but actually being like positive that

1785
01:40:17.079 --> 01:40:20.279
he was right wing, like deeply convinced and like insulting

1786
01:40:20.319 --> 01:40:23.319
people for saying that he's left wing. And so it

1787
01:40:23.399 --> 01:40:25.840
was so pervasive that I said, Okay, well, nobody else

1788
01:40:25.880 --> 01:40:27.680
is pulling this, we should probably take a look at it.

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And McLaughlin Associates worked with us on that.

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But yeah, I was not expecting only twenty four percent

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of Americans to be able to correctly identify his ideology.

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That is one of the most brutal condemnations of the

1793
01:40:41.359 --> 01:40:42.800
media's mishandling of a story.

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I think that a pole could ever bear out.

1795
01:40:45.760 --> 01:40:48.359
Well exactly, and it says something also about the culture,

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you know. And the thing is again regarding marketing. I've

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been in marketing most of my life, and it's been

1798
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known that he who's there first wins. So when you

1799
01:40:58.680 --> 01:41:01.359
get you know, at the first bite of the apple,

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01:41:01.680 --> 01:41:04.520
and you put out this kind of poison into the media,

1801
01:41:05.439 --> 01:41:09.680
into the into the culture, it's amazing how that sticks.

1802
01:41:09.760 --> 01:41:12.279
And of course a lot of us remember, you know,

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01:41:12.359 --> 01:41:16.399
Jimmy Kimmel making a statement that was just so incredulous

1804
01:41:16.399 --> 01:41:21.000
he was even suspended, right, and and so you know,

1805
01:41:21.039 --> 01:41:22.880
of course what it turned out to be was just

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basically a slap in the hands, so to speak.

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Uh.

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But you know, this is just a gregious but it

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just again, I think it's an indictment on the culture

1810
01:41:33.520 --> 01:41:35.840
and that the American people would be willing to re

1811
01:41:35.960 --> 01:41:41.399
embrace somebody would say something so outrageous, right, right.

1812
01:41:41.439 --> 01:41:44.319
And I appreciate you, uh, I appreciate you bringing that up,

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because I think a lot of people have kind of misremembered.

1814
01:41:47.720 --> 01:41:49.520
Maybe they didn't see the Jimmy Kimmel clip or what,

1815
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but a lot of people seem to misremember that as

1816
01:41:51.680 --> 01:41:54.399
Jimmy Kimmel got suspended for making a joke about Charlie

1817
01:41:54.439 --> 01:41:56.520
Kirk's death, and that is that is not what happened.

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There was no joke in there.

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There was no there was no punchline, no laugh line,

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he said or implied strongly that Tyler Robinson was right wing.

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He said that MAGA was doing everything that they could

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to pretend that he was something other than one of us,

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when of course he was somebody who shared a lot

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more of Jimmy Kimmel's beliefs than either you or I Bill.

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But yeah, I mean, the Charlie Kirk suspense or the

1826
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Jimmy Kimmel suspension was really I think a big role,

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played a big role in a lot of people maybe

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not hearing the full story about Tyler Robinson, because as

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soon as that happened, the media suddenly had something to

1830
01:42:34.159 --> 01:42:38.079
pivot to, right, this was now a free speech story,

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was a government censorship story. In fact, Jimmy Kimmel became

1832
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the true victim of Charlie Kirk's death, and Charlie Kirk

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basically became a background character in his own story in

1834
01:42:49.600 --> 01:42:52.560
many media headlines that ensued from that whole debacle.

1835
01:42:53.159 --> 01:42:55.880
Is that amazing? I mean, I mean here you, as

1836
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a student of the media, to see how this you know,

1837
01:42:59.039 --> 01:43:02.880
this card shuffling occurs and the media is out there

1838
01:43:02.920 --> 01:43:06.039
constantly looking for a victim and if they can get

1839
01:43:06.079 --> 01:43:09.840
any angle whatsoever to turn things on its head, eighty

1840
01:43:09.920 --> 01:43:14.199
twenty issues, ninety ten issues, it doesn't matter. But they

1841
01:43:14.279 --> 01:43:18.439
have consistently in the recent era have picked the minor

1842
01:43:18.760 --> 01:43:23.479
faction or fraction of the interest and elevated them and

1843
01:43:23.600 --> 01:43:25.039
turned it upside down.

1844
01:43:26.079 --> 01:43:28.079
Right, And they do that out of loyalty to the

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01:43:28.079 --> 01:43:31.760
Democratic Party. Because is that minor fraction that you're discussing

1846
01:43:31.880 --> 01:43:36.560
is basically the most loyal, most active, most engaged Democratic voters, right.

1847
01:43:36.600 --> 01:43:39.680
It is their radical base, it's their far left base.

1848
01:43:40.359 --> 01:43:43.520
And so because they need to prop up the Democratic

1849
01:43:43.560 --> 01:43:48.159
Party in those news consumers' eyes, they basically are forced

1850
01:43:48.239 --> 01:43:52.159
to do cleanup work for the most radical among them, right,

1851
01:43:52.199 --> 01:43:54.880
the most dangerous among them, for example, the Tyler Robinson's

1852
01:43:54.880 --> 01:43:57.760
of the world. The message that this basically sends is

1853
01:43:57.800 --> 01:44:01.159
you can commit a political assassination, and if it's in

1854
01:44:01.239 --> 01:44:03.079
service of the right cause, the media.

1855
01:44:02.880 --> 01:44:03.840
Will back you up on it.

1856
01:44:03.920 --> 01:44:04.079
Right.

1857
01:44:04.119 --> 01:44:04.479
They will.

1858
01:44:04.720 --> 01:44:07.920
They will spin, they will muddy the waters, and they'll

1859
01:44:08.000 --> 01:44:11.119
quickly move on from any discussion of you or your

1860
01:44:11.159 --> 01:44:15.760
ideology and pivot to some kind of related satellite issue,

1861
01:44:15.960 --> 01:44:17.640
right that this fawn from. So they'll keep it in

1862
01:44:17.680 --> 01:44:19.520
the news cycle, but they'll kind of hijack the news

1863
01:44:19.560 --> 01:44:22.159
cycle for their own purposes. And we've seen this again

1864
01:44:22.199 --> 01:44:24.920
and again and again. But again, the numbers, the numbers

1865
01:44:24.960 --> 01:44:30.079
are really what bear that out. Now, especially telling in

1866
01:44:30.159 --> 01:44:33.960
this poll was yes, twenty four percent, we're able to

1867
01:44:34.000 --> 01:44:37.319
identify that that Tyler Robinson was left wing. But actually

1868
01:44:37.319 --> 01:44:40.880
the most answered or the most common answer for the poll,

1869
01:44:40.960 --> 01:44:45.680
the plurality of respondents said they didn't know, they didn't

1870
01:44:45.720 --> 01:44:48.640
know Tyler Robinson's political views, and that was twenty seven percent,

1871
01:44:49.520 --> 01:44:52.880
And that I think is most illustrative of the media

1872
01:44:53.840 --> 01:44:59.479
basically tiptoeing past what Tyler Robinson's politics were. Right now,

1873
01:44:59.520 --> 01:45:02.039
if you think I don't remember the exact year, but

1874
01:45:02.079 --> 01:45:04.359
if you think back to when that that horrific Dylan

1875
01:45:04.439 --> 01:45:07.520
Roof shooting happened, yes, if you had pulled people around,

1876
01:45:07.600 --> 01:45:10.720
then what were Dylan Roof's politics? I'm pretty sure that

1877
01:45:10.800 --> 01:45:12.560
a lot more people would have gotten it right than

1878
01:45:12.600 --> 01:45:14.239
twenty four percent. And I think that the amount of

1879
01:45:14.239 --> 01:45:17.359
people saying I don't know would have been through the floor, right,

1880
01:45:17.399 --> 01:45:19.439
and certainly people saying he was left wing would have

1881
01:45:19.439 --> 01:45:22.039
been through the floor. Whereas today you have twenty two

1882
01:45:22.119 --> 01:45:25.560
percent of poll respondents saying that they think that that

1883
01:45:25.640 --> 01:45:27.000
Tyler Robinson was right wing.

1884
01:45:27.159 --> 01:45:31.319
I mean, it's appalling. It is it's not just mishandling.

1885
01:45:31.319 --> 01:45:32.359
I shouldn't use that term.

1886
01:45:32.399 --> 01:45:34.960
It is it is deliberate spin, right, it is without

1887
01:45:34.960 --> 01:45:36.960
a audacity on the part of the media.

1888
01:45:37.119 --> 01:45:39.079
Well, and this is why the onus is on the

1889
01:45:39.079 --> 01:45:42.199
American people. You have to be discerning, You've got to

1890
01:45:42.279 --> 01:45:45.079
be aware of what's going on and what this is

1891
01:45:45.479 --> 01:45:47.319
indicative of. I mean, you can say you can blame

1892
01:45:47.319 --> 01:45:49.279
it on the media, I blame it on the people.

1893
01:45:49.800 --> 01:45:49.960
You know.

1894
01:45:50.279 --> 01:45:54.840
You cannot. You cannot sit there in abject ignorance and

1895
01:45:55.079 --> 01:46:03.479
ideologically siloed perspectives and consider that you're dealing with the truth.

1896
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Because all this, when it all comes down to at

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the end of the day, is are you dealing with

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01:46:08.760 --> 01:46:10.399
the truth or are you dealing with a lie? It

1899
01:46:10.439 --> 01:46:13.800
really is a binary choice, right, right.

1900
01:46:13.920 --> 01:46:15.920
And truth is the most important ideal that you can

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strive to uphold. Right.

1902
01:46:17.000 --> 01:46:19.600
I mean, if you're not in compliance with truth, if

1903
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you're not, if you're not square with reality itself, then

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01:46:22.560 --> 01:46:25.960
anything that follows from that is very liably liable to

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be dangerous, destructive, exactly, and completely nonsensical. And so yeah,

1906
01:46:30.920 --> 01:46:33.159
I mean, I think you're framing this perfectly. This poll

1907
01:46:33.199 --> 01:46:35.760
should be seen by anybody who's who's outraged at the

1908
01:46:35.800 --> 01:46:38.479
result as a call to action, right, I mean, this

1909
01:46:38.680 --> 01:46:41.560
is this is basically evidence of the amount of work

1910
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that needs to be done. Right, I mean, seventy six

1911
01:46:43.840 --> 01:46:47.520
percent of Americans are basically are basically the gap to

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01:46:47.720 --> 01:46:50.119
success in this case. Right, I mean, you're you're certainly

1913
01:46:50.159 --> 01:46:52.479
not going to convince all of them, but people need

1914
01:46:52.520 --> 01:46:55.000
to be made more aware of this story and just

1915
01:46:55.119 --> 01:46:58.159
more generally, when when the media take control of a

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01:46:58.199 --> 01:47:01.239
narrative like this completely completely poison it, spin it to

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01:47:01.279 --> 01:47:04.680
their own purposes, we need to be the ones kind

1918
01:47:04.680 --> 01:47:07.800
of doing the cleanup work there and filling in the

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01:47:07.840 --> 01:47:10.039
information where they refuse to provide it.

1920
01:47:10.560 --> 01:47:13.640
Well, And this is why people have left in droves,

1921
01:47:13.880 --> 01:47:16.039
you know, with the mainstream media. Mainstream media you and

1922
01:47:16.079 --> 01:47:19.319
I talked about last time, right about the time you

1923
01:47:19.359 --> 01:47:22.319
were born, Bill, I mean, the mainstream media was commanded

1924
01:47:22.359 --> 01:47:25.800
by three networks and they commanded about eighty five percent

1925
01:47:25.840 --> 01:47:28.239
of viewing audience. Now it's less than fifty percent and

1926
01:47:29.479 --> 01:47:33.199
continuing on the decline. But it doesn't matter, you know,

1927
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And and we're saying you and I are are sounding

1928
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the clarion bell here to say America, you got to

1929
01:47:40.319 --> 01:47:43.239
wake up, because you know, the left continues to say, oh,

1930
01:47:43.439 --> 01:47:48.199
democracy is being threatened. Well, democracy is dying at the

1931
01:47:48.239 --> 01:47:51.960
hands of apathetic citizens.

1932
01:47:51.479 --> 01:47:56.239
Right right, And the functioning of a of a democratic

1933
01:47:56.279 --> 01:48:03.920
process is threatened, like fatally, threatened fatally by the spread

1934
01:48:04.039 --> 01:48:06.800
of completely false narratives like this, right right, because the

1935
01:48:06.800 --> 01:48:09.880
whole the whole point of the democratic process is people

1936
01:48:09.920 --> 01:48:15.000
making informed decisions that comport with reality to to decide

1937
01:48:15.159 --> 01:48:17.720
there who will be governing them, right. I mean, it's

1938
01:48:17.720 --> 01:48:20.000
supposed to be self governance. And if you can't, if

1939
01:48:20.000 --> 01:48:23.319
you can't start from a base of actually factual information

1940
01:48:23.520 --> 01:48:27.119
or from the whole picture, then again, any any choice

1941
01:48:27.119 --> 01:48:29.680
that you make is going to be fundamentally flawed. And

1942
01:48:29.720 --> 01:48:32.239
that's I mean, that's that's basically the fundamental understanding that

1943
01:48:32.279 --> 01:48:35.039
the media have. That is why they do what they do, right,

1944
01:48:35.039 --> 01:48:37.239
It is why the corporate media are comprised of the

1945
01:48:37.239 --> 01:48:40.520
people that comprise it, because they are people who realize

1946
01:48:40.760 --> 01:48:43.720
that if you control the information, you can effectively control

1947
01:48:43.720 --> 01:48:46.600
the political process. And that's that's what they've been endeavoring

1948
01:48:46.600 --> 01:48:48.880
to do for as you said, as as long as

1949
01:48:48.880 --> 01:48:52.039
I've been alive, certainly, and and fortunately the grip is

1950
01:48:52.039 --> 01:48:55.039
slipping a bit, but there is as always so much

1951
01:48:55.039 --> 01:48:56.439
more work to be done on that front.

1952
01:48:56.800 --> 01:48:59.560
Well, you know, and to me, it's really it's pretty

1953
01:48:59.600 --> 01:49:02.640
black and white. I mean, look at the heroes that

1954
01:49:02.680 --> 01:49:06.920
the media have have, you know, raised to heroic levels,

1955
01:49:07.119 --> 01:49:11.880
whether it's Tyler Robinson or what's his name in New

1956
01:49:11.960 --> 01:49:15.439
York who killed the Healthcareriona. Yeah, yeah, I mean and

1957
01:49:15.720 --> 01:49:19.880
and uh, you know, George Floyd, Trayvon Martin. These are

1958
01:49:20.000 --> 01:49:23.800
all modern day heroes that have been built up and

1959
01:49:23.880 --> 01:49:27.640
contrived by the mainstream media, thank you very much.

1960
01:49:28.760 --> 01:49:33.279
Yeah, yeah, No heroes prises everything. I mean scandals, right,

1961
01:49:33.319 --> 01:49:35.159
We're we're in the middle of a of a wholesale

1962
01:49:35.199 --> 01:49:39.079
manufactured scandal right now with the Defense Secretary, right right.

1963
01:49:39.119 --> 01:49:42.079
I mean, they they can conjure things up from whole cloth.

1964
01:49:42.159 --> 01:49:43.960
But the only way that that works, it's kind of

1965
01:49:43.960 --> 01:49:45.399
like the power lies where people.

1966
01:49:45.239 --> 01:49:46.000
Believe it lies.

1967
01:49:46.199 --> 01:49:48.479
The only the only way that that works is is

1968
01:49:48.520 --> 01:49:51.720
because too many people still grant them credulity that they

1969
01:49:52.399 --> 01:49:56.159
have long since stopped deserving. And so I mean that's

1970
01:49:56.319 --> 01:49:58.039
That's kind of what we see our goal at the

1971
01:49:58.319 --> 01:50:00.800
at the Media Research Center, right, is exactly proving to

1972
01:50:00.880 --> 01:50:03.680
people that know, any any kind of benefit of the

1973
01:50:03.720 --> 01:50:06.079
doubt that you give these people, any kind of credulity

1974
01:50:06.079 --> 01:50:09.279
that you grant them, is going to be used against you.

1975
01:50:09.760 --> 01:50:13.319
Yeah. And meanwhile they'll ask us to step around the

1976
01:50:13.399 --> 01:50:15.800
billion dollar fraud coming out of Minneapolis.

1977
01:50:15.880 --> 01:50:18.760
Right, that's right, that's right, that's right. A lot of

1978
01:50:18.760 --> 01:50:22.039
them are just denying it outright. They are utterly incurious

1979
01:50:22.079 --> 01:50:25.359
about the story because they know that it hurts their side, right,

1980
01:50:25.399 --> 01:50:28.039
it doesn't benefit them. Therefore, there is no reason to

1981
01:50:28.039 --> 01:50:30.760
cover it. There's no incentive. It's not about informing people,

1982
01:50:30.800 --> 01:50:34.319
it's about providing the correct narrative. This completely chatters a

1983
01:50:34.399 --> 01:50:36.600
narrative that they're trying to push there. They're trying to

1984
01:50:36.600 --> 01:50:40.640
push this open border's policy. Basically, everybody who can get

1985
01:50:40.640 --> 01:50:42.600
in or can arrive at the United States should be

1986
01:50:42.640 --> 01:50:44.880
allowed in and should stay here forever. They're just as

1987
01:50:44.880 --> 01:50:48.279
American as you or I, Bill. And so if you,

1988
01:50:48.279 --> 01:50:50.520
you know, if you bring up information like, for example,

1989
01:50:50.600 --> 01:50:54.279
rampant fraud in Minneapolis among the Somalians living there, then

1990
01:50:54.319 --> 01:50:56.520
that that kind of sticks a fork in that narrative.

1991
01:50:56.800 --> 01:50:58.359
So they're just not going to talk about it.

1992
01:50:58.359 --> 01:51:01.760
That's why, again, it's incumb on us discuss it as

1993
01:51:01.760 --> 01:51:02.560
we are right now.

1994
01:51:03.039 --> 01:51:08.319
Exactly Well, certainly the evidence is overwhelming, and you know

1995
01:51:08.359 --> 01:51:10.279
it's not like you have to do a deep down research.

1996
01:51:10.319 --> 01:51:12.600
I mean, just look at on the surface the things

1997
01:51:12.600 --> 01:51:14.760
that you and I've talked about. It's quite clear what

1998
01:51:14.800 --> 01:51:18.720
the mainstream media has done. It's abandoned its position of

1999
01:51:18.800 --> 01:51:22.640
authority as to find in the US Constitution to serve

2000
01:51:22.680 --> 01:51:25.600
the American people and to serve this government that is

2001
01:51:25.640 --> 01:51:28.279
a government of for and buy we the people. Bill

2002
01:51:28.319 --> 01:51:32.600
the Augustina Research analyst for MRC's News Analysis Division, Bill,

2003
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As always, we appreciate the time and insight. Take care

2004
01:51:34.840 --> 01:51:35.319
be well, my.

2005
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Friend, absolutely, thanks so much. Good to see it.

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