March 19, 2026
The Bill Martinez Show 03 19 26

The Bill Martinez Show 03 19 26
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Are you ready, Yeah, Okay, let's do it.
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Ill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture,
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our values, our politics, and our future.
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And now Bill Martinez.
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Well, good morning America. Glad you could join us. Bill
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Martinez here with Mike O one on, the assistant General
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counsel at Landmark Legal. Hey, Michael, good morning to you.
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Good morning Bill. Good to be with you.
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Well, always good to catch up. And of course we're
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still chasing down the say back don yeah.
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Right now currently debating being under debate and consideration in
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the United States Senate. So they're they're taking it on now.
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A couple interesting things. It's not it's kind of this
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middling ground, right it wasn't. It hasn't been pulled for
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a cloture vote, so that means it's still open for
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debating consideration. But it doesn't look like there's a full
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talking filibuster, if you will. Right now, it looks like
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it's just the sole focus of the Senate. It's on
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their agenda. They're debating it. You're seeing senators standing in
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the well of the Senate end it and attacking it.
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That's good. But again, I here's a butt. There's still
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the possibility or the probability that at some point the
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leader Thune is going to call for a cloture vote,
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which of course there's not, which would require sixty votes
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to end the debate and then move to a majority
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vote for it for the bill. Obviously, I don't think
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right now there's sixty votes for this. So if that happens,
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that would again take the debate and consideration off the
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floor of the Senate. Wouldn't absolutely kill the bill, but
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it would move it off and the Senate would move
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on to other things. And so that would certainly be demoralizing.
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But as of right now, they're debating it and considering
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it and talking about it. Let's see what happens.
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Why are the Democrats fighting over this as if it's
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life and death.
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Michael, Well, honestly, I think it is life and death
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for them in a lot of ways. I think when
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I mean, you have to say, when you see states
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that have removed any reasonable protections on their voter role,
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for their voting system, those become inevitably become these one
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party states California, Oregon. Look at these states that have
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no no citizenship verification, no effort to ensure that their
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voter roles are clean, no identification, no communication between state
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agencies that a state agency like a state DMV that
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might have information about the citizenship status of individuals and
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state election officials who have lists of voters, no cross referencing, there,
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no communications, and I believe they become one party dominant
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Democrat states. So I got to think that the Democrats
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are wedded. Then They've been wedded to this for years now,
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to not having any reasonable protections on their on the
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on the voting systems. They just think that obligating somebody
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to show voter identification is akin to Jim Crow two
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point zero. And you know, let let that stand on
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its own for the reasonableness of that argument, which of
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course is completely ridiculous. But they are wedded to not
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having any protections on the voting systems and having really chaos,
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and I think they thrive in that chaos.
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Frankly, well, it would seem that the America people are
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kind of getting it when you know, you're seeing pulling
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seventy eighty percent, you know, approve of voter ID And
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so are there any other elements within this, say AAC
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because the President has added to kind of addendums, you know,
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one is a boys playing in girl sports. And also
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the trans issue tying it to it is that is
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that getting in the way.
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I don't think it's necessarily getting in the way. I
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think I think the issue, it seems, again, if you
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want to embrace the lunacy of the Democrats arguments on this,
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the one that they always are harping on is the
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citizenship verification when you register to vote. Now, they seem
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to think that they're scaring people with the statement that
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you know, you can't you need a passport to establish
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your citizenship, or you need a birth certificate, and that's
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untenable or unreasonable burden on some people. If you're older,
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getting a birth certificate might be difficult for you, et cetera,
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et cetera. I mean that could be refuted, and that's
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actually being refuted right now in the fact that the
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bill gives authority to states to allow other methodologies or
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other methods for proving your citizenship. It also allows people
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to complete an affidavit attesting to your citizenship when you
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register to vote, and then having the state verify that
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you're a citizen based on that affidavit. So there is
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there is there, There actually is, and there is a
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way to address that that one argument that the Democrats
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seem so focused on. That being said, I think the
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debate right now gives gives a window for some horse trading.
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Now I don't really see anybody talking about this, but
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as I understand the way the process of the Senate's
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going on is there's be there could be some negotiations
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that are going on behind the scenes. So John Fetterman,
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for example, had said earlier, now he voted against he's
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he's against a lot of the provisions of it, but
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he isn't in favor of the UH identification provision. So possible,
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and again this is me just hypothesizing on this. If
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some sort of bill can come out of the Senate
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where we have several of those elements, you know, maybe
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a citizen voter ID, which again we know that nine
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five percent of Americans augree with across the democratic spectrum, Democrats, Republicans, black, white,
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Hispanics all believe that you should show identification. If that
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can come out of the Senate. If a burden, if
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placing an affirmative obligation on state election officials to verify citizenship.
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In other words, just again, if you're if you're in
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charge of determining whether somebody is dead or moved off
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the moved out of your state. Also put in another
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requirement whether they're a citizen of the United State of
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the United States. If that some sort of provision can
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come out, I think that would be a good thing.
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So at this point, obviously I want to see the
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Save Act as it's presented in TOTO coming out. But
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if we can get certain provisions through the Senate that
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we can get maybe fifty five or sixty people can
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come through on I'm for that as well.
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But who's accountable? You just touched on something that's critical, Okay,
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so you passed the law and then you get these
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different you know, Secretary of States that have their own
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opinion not to mention some local judges, right, So it
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would accountable.
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I think if you could have and I think this
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is in the I think this is a process right now.
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There is a private cause of action that groups like
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for example, Landmark Legal Foundation could actually sue a state
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of say we wanted to sue Virginia or Pennsylvania and
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say that Pennsylvania isn't taking the necessary steps to remove
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dead people and people who've moved out of their the state,
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they're not doing it, they're not doing enough of a
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job to this, and you can reach an agreement you
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have a private cause of action. If you had a
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private cause of action that would allow private citizens to
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sue their state, that would really increase accountability. So if
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I wanted to sue, for example, California and saying California
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isn't taking the necessary steps to remove non citizens from
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their voter rules, that would increase the accountability there and
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the pressure on those states to actually do something. Again,
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the best you can do is have some sort of
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federal obligation there which would allow which would again allow
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an avenue for some sort of accountability. Now, again, nothing's
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going to be perfect, and we always know that certain
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election officials in a lot of these states are always
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going to drag their feet. But if you put a
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little more pressure on them from a federal obligation standpoint,
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I think you're going to have some more accountability in
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the process.
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Don't you think that this, you know, this say Act
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undermines a structure that the Democrats have worked on for decades.
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Yeah, right, yeah, of course absolutely, And I think that
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that's that's been one of their long term plans. If
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you look at the process that plays out throughout the country,
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and I always call them the laboratory states. Right in California,
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for example, is when you systemically remove any protections on
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the election system. And what does that mean, Well, that
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means instituting widespread mail voting, right because you know, if
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you have why if you mail every a ballot to
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every name, to the name of every person on the
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voter roll, that means you're going to have ballots flooding
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through the state, right exactly, no no effort to verify
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whether they're dead, they moved out of the state, whether
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they're still their good address, any of that. You're going
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to have ballots floating around. That means, you know, if
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you have the foot soldiers and the wherewithal, you could
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orchestrate all kinds of all kinds.
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Of issues as yeah, exactly, yeah, because the deal is
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is that you don't you lose uh, as you would
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say in the legal term, Michael, you know, control of
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the product, right, and then there's a better word, what
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do you call it?
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A chain of custody.
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Chain of custody, that's what you're talking about, right, Yeah.
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And just as as as to extrapolate on that point
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I was just making is it's not just instituting male balloting.
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It's also you know, having agencies don't talk to each other.
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It's also removing identification for for when you vote, you
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and you don't even have to show who you are.
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It's it's removing signature verification on mail ballots. In other words,
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not having anybody check the signature that your signature as
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you sign your ABS and your mail ballot envelope, whether
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that signature matches the signature that the Registrar of Voters
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has on file for There's all kinds of ways that
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you can you can game the system to increase the
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likelihood that, you know, bad actions occur, and it's just
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it's a systemic method to do this. And I I've
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always held that one of the endgame here is removing
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the citizenship requirement. Right, Democrats want open voting up to
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anybody who happens to be present in the United States,
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no citizenship requirement. They don't talk about that one because
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right now.
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That's exactly that's right. Let's go to quick break. We'll
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pick it up on the other side. More from Mike
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after this, stay with us.
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