March 10, 2026
The Bill Martinez Show 03 10 26
The Bill Martinez Show 03 10 26
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Are you ready, Yeah, Okay, let's do it.
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Ill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture,
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our values, our politics, and our future.
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And now Bill Martinez, Good Morning America. Six minutes after
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the top of they are right now. I'm Bill Martinez.
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SE's Steve Bonta, the publisher of the New American magazine.
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Thanks Steve, good morning to you.
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Hey Bill, good to talk to you.
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Always good to talk to you. And get caught up.
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And of course, you know, the focus is Iran. I
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mean a lot of people are getting nervous here. I
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don't know what they expected if they thought everything was
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going to be done. You know. I keep saying, we're
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part of this microwave generation that stands in front of
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a microwave and yell's hurry up. I mean, like we're
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gonna deal with something that's taken forty over forty five
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years to be involved when we're cleaning up in a
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couple of couple of hours.
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Yeah.
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Well, I glanced at some of the headlines this morning,
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and one of them, you know, they're they're one and
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all extremely ominous, and one of them was going on
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about how the head line said something like and I
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forget which one which is the news media was, but
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it was something like, you know, conditions worsened as American
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death toll rises. Okay, well, what's happened is that the
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American death toll has risen from six to seven. Right,
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not to minimize the deaths of seven American servicemen, I'd
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be less to do that. But if you compare that
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to you know, the mortality rates of pretty much any
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other recent American war, you know, so far, it's it's
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not been that.
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Big a deal.
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I mean, we.
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The main issue with the war, I suspect is in
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the long term is going to be the cost involved.
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It does seem to be being prosecuted very differently from
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the way other wars of this sort were done. In
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the end, excuse me, shut off my cell phone. In
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the end, we have sorry about that, you know. And
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the in the end, we're probably gonna have to send
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some ground troops in to finish the job. It's very
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clear that the Iranian regime has absolutely no interest in disbanding.
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They're going to continue shooting Iranian citizens and doing their thing.
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And you know, I mean it's a very complicated issue
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in the sense that you know, the war was probably
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as claimed by a lot of Trump's detractors was embarked
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upon unconstitutionally, But then so is every other war since
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World War Two, and quite a number of wars even
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before World War Two.
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So that's you know, a bit problematic.
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And at the thing that thinks so funny, Steve, is
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that the ones they're claiming it's unconstant, they're shouting for
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the timbers is unconstitutional, said nothing or even said they
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supported what Barack Obama did, for example. So like you said,
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I mean, fair's fair here, Let's let's be objective about this.
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And you know, clearly it seems that the president does
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have the constitutional standing to do what he's doing right
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now in the short term.
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Right, well, I'm not sure about that given the scale
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of it.
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I mean, you know, I think, honest people can you know,
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disagree on small operations like what happened in Venezuela recently,
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and you know, so even people with you know, staunch
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constitutionalists do disagree.
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In this case.
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It's pretty clear that it's developed into a minimum, a
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major theater war, and really it was embarked upon, you know,
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as a major thing, and so you know, calling it
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otherwise is disingenuous. At some level, I would think, you know,
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it would require congressional authorization, not to say, an actual
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declaration of war. Now, in American history, we fought many,
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many wars and minor wars and military actions and all
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this type of thing, and of those, the only actual
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declared war since it depends have been the War of
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eighteen twelve, the Mexican American War, the Spanish American War,
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and World Wars one and two. World War two involved
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multiple declarations of war, not just Germany and Japan, but
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also Hungary, Romania, Italy and so forth. So Bulgaria, I
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think we declared war. And then that was the last
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time that that cluster of declarations of war, that that
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officially drew us into World War two is the last
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time we've declared war.
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Now.
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I was, you know, in the morning, when I hang
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breakfast for to go to work, I always watch news
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clips to get myself all read and angry, and I
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was watching a screed from from Mark Levin from his
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Sunday show, in which he was in a sense arguing
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that because we no longer declare war, we shouldn't declare war,
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and then saying, you know, this was yesterday, is you know,
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we haven't done that since World War Two, and all
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these other presidents have gone into war with this, which
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is certainly true, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the
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first you know, and second Gulf Wars, not to mention
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many other you know involvements, and you know, invasions of
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Haiti and invasion of Panamon, all on and on have
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all been carried out without declaration of war or even
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without you know, congressional authorization. So so I mean that's
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the first thing that you know, we have, and it
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is our obligation, regardless of whether or not the cause
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is righteous. And we can talk about that too, and
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I think we should, but you know, there should be
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a declaration of war or some measure of congressional you know,
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consultation and authorization. And it does appear that, you know,
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that Trump, like his many of his predecessors, essentially went
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all cowboy, and you.
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Know, and so here we are and part of the
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challenge now that we're in it.
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I mean, it certainly doesn't make sense to say, oh, okay,
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let's because it was embarked upon under dubious pretexts. Let's
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just unwind the whole thing and go back to the
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status quo ante. But you know, obviously that's non acceptable outcome.
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Either, right, And you know, a part of the challenge
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you have here is with Trump talking to Congress. I mean,
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this is the stuff that's so goofy right now. He
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talks to Congress and they can't find a microphone fast
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enough to share what has been shared with them about
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any kind of strategy or what what's going on here,
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you know, And you know Trump can't trust Congress to
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keep their mouth quiet.
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Yeah.
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Well, I mean, I mean, part of the problem in this,
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as with the Venezuela issue, and of course the next
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thing is going to be Cuba, as everyone realizes, is
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that we're dealing with the fallout metaphorical so far, thank goodness,
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but we're dealing with the fallout of you know, decades
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of really feckless and misguided policy. So consider that when Thomas,
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I mean Thomas Jefferson was the flaky liberal guy of
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his age, and I say that affection I love Thomas
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Jefferson in many ways, but compared to most of the founders,
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he was kind of the equivalent of the of the
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touchy feely, you know, liberal mindset, like we're at all
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and yet when a bunch of Muslim nut jobs started
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kidnapping and holding for hostage Americans, he didn't hesitate, Okay, right,
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and and and so and so you roll that forward
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to nineteen seventy nine, you know, and of course now
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he did it with congressional authorization. But that speaks, I think,
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eloquently to the mindset of Americans in those days that
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we were. You know that even the most anti war presidents,
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you know, the most idealistic presidents, would say, oh, you know,
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this is this is clearly active war. Well, you know,
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Iran committed clear acts of war against America when they
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seized our embassy and held our you know, a large
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number of embassy personnel hostage under unbelievable duress for four
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hundred and forty four days, and then followed that up
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with various acts of terrorism.
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And that whole time, you know, I mean, obviously.
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Jimmy Carter did not have the backbone to do anything
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about it, right, And so so that's been has been
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the thing.
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And this they have they run itally. As to how
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many Americans they've killed.
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I don't know, but it's been it's been many, directly
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or indirectly. I mean, you know, the Marine barracks in Lebanon.
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I mean, when Ronald Reagan became president, he decided he
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started out to say, well, we're going to fix things
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in the Middle East that we've kind of broken, and
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very quickly.
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That that wasn't going to happen.
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When we lost over two hundred marines in the bombing
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of the barracks in Beirut. His attitude was, you know what,
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I'm more concerned with dealing with the Soviet Union and
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the Cold War were done, and he just pulled out
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the Middle East. And so now the Middle East is
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front and center and people are saying, well, what is
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Iran done to us? Well, you know, over the last
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nearly fifty years, you know, numerous instances of cassis belli
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to be sure by any traditional calculus, however, because we've
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had you know, and Trump is right when he says,
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you know, presidents have just been kicking this proverbial can
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down the road and down the road and down the
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road and hoping the next generation will deal with it.
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I do agree with those who maintain that you just
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can't allow a regime like Iran to get nuclear weapons, right.
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I remember, back in the nineteen eighties, I took a
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course in political science at the university where I was studying,
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and one of the main topics was what they called
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back then the Islam bomb. You know, there were specifically
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referencing Iran and perhaps your rock and maybe Sautyr area,
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but Ken, you know, is it safe? And of course
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now one is Muslim nation. Pakistan does have nuclear weapons.
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