Feb. 2, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 02 02 26

The Bill Martinez Show 02 02 26
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The Bill Martinez Show 02 02 26
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, Okay, let's do an Ill Martinas Live a program

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about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and

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our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Good morning America. Good to have you with us. Six

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minutes after the top of the hour. Right now, we've

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got Paul ken Gore, Professor of Political Science, Chief Academic

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Fellow of the East Super Faith and Freedom of Grove

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City College.

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Hey, Paul, good morning, Happy New year.

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Yeah, and Sam you Bill good morning.

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Hey.

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Lots to catch up on before we talk about Trump

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and the new World Order. I want to address Minneapolis here.

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Help me understand Minneapolis is harboring criminals in one former fashion,

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call it what it is. And this whole idea and

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concept of a sanctuary city that's been allowed to impinge

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upon our US Constitution continues to cause all kinds of

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problems and promote lawlessness, particularly in Minnesota.

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Why is that a problem?

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Well, I find it interesting that once again you have

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liberals who are big advocates of states rights.

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Right.

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I mean, anytime you get a Republican who talks about

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the state's rights, which was really state's rights simply means

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the tenth Amendment of the US Constitution, where it says

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that the power power is not reserved to the federal government,

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are reserved to the states. And I mean, yeah, that's

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a long We call that federalism. James Madison, who was

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the father of the Bill of Rights, the first ten

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amendments to the Constitution, called that. That became known as

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Madison's middle Ground. And you know here again, so you know, now,

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all of a sudden, these people are just these wild

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states rights advocates who tell them, you know, Donald Trump

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has no business doing whatever in their state. But but

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you know, but this is a federal issue, yes, and yeah,

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it's a federal issue because what you have is people

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that are in the country legally, and so they they've

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broken laws to get here. And you know, you know,

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these ice agents are really just doing their jobs. I

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mean a lot of them themselves are probably children of immigrants,

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perhaps immigrants themselves, people who came here legally. And you know,

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this was all bequeathed by Joe Biden. Four years of

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the chaos of Joe Biden, and now Donald Trump has

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left to clean it up, and you've got a real mess.

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The mayor of Minneapolis is awful. Tim Walls, who could

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have been Vice President of the United States. Yeah, and

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and and you have you know, the these people go,

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you know, they deliberately go to places where ice agents

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are and they protest and harass and agitate them. And

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I mean, you know, you and I you know, you

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grew up. You and I grew up with dads. We're

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dads now. When our dads told us as kids, and

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we tell our sons. You know, if you ever get

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stopped by a policeman, you just say yes, sir, okay, sir.

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You respect you respect authority. Yeah, exactly.

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Provoke the oh yeah, people with guns.

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You know, Paul I was mentioning to another guest here.

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Did you ever see that Chris Rock video that he

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did back in the early two thousands.

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It was addressed to young black men.

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The title was, you know, I won't you know, uh

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say the title exactly because our audience might be sensitive

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to it, but you can imagine. And Chris Rock's own

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words was how not to get your butt kicked by

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the police and uh funny but yet common sensical. And

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I think that that ought to be on a loop

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in Minnesota because they need some common sense there, and

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because the things that they're doing is absolutely lawless, you know,

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and from the get go, because the predicate, like you said,

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the predicate of all this is not only you know

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Biden Obama before that, but then you've got the sanctuary

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city that I don't see the legal grounds for sanctuary

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cities that basically harbor criminals. And I thought harboring a

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criminal was an offense.

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Well or at the very least, yeah, harbor well, you know,

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harboring people who are breaking the law by being there, right,

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And I mean that, And and those laws were created

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by Congress. In fact, you know, the master of deportation

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was Barack Obama. People forget this all the time, and

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and and Obama. Well, Donald Trump just came in and said,

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you know, I'm going to follow the laws that the

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Congress established. Now, the difference here in all of this,

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which created this chaos was Joe Biden. And Biden didn't

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want to follow those laws. Well basically, I mean, frankly, candidly,

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I think Biden just didn't want to do anything. It

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just seemed like for four years, you know that the

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the you know, the the President of the United States

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was asleep. I mean when when when Donald Trump called

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him sleepy Joe, you know, back during the campaign, the campaigns,

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I mean that, you know, that was that was right on.

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I mean, the guy we had an auto pen running

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the country, you know, you and I marveled many times

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at how Joe Biden, who was somebody that when he

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was in the Senate and even when he was Vice

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president under Obama, could be somewhat more moderate on some

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of the cultural issues, right abortion, the High Amendment. I mean,

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you know, he he was always pro choice, but you know,

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but he but he said, look, you shouldn't have to

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make religious believers violate their conscience right pay for things

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that they don't want to pay for. And then all

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of a sudden, because he becomes president, he becomes one

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of the most radical culture warriors in the history of

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the office, which had to make me wonder if who

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was running the country frankly, probably not him.

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Well and clearly the other thing is that came out

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quite uh was quite evident, was his lack of lucidity.

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Yes, yeah, it's exactly right. And that lack of acidity,

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you know, yeah, between being asleep at the at the wheel,

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a lack of lucidity really cognitive awareness.

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And we saw that.

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I remember remember the doctor's report. I'm trying to think

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who the doctor was who talked about you know, how

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appalled he was when he when he interviewed Joe Biden.

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You know what, the man couldn't even remember about basic

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stuff and his family, let alone win in the United States.

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And of course with the Democrats, they really didn't care

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about all this because they look at all these people

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coming in illegally as Democrat voters, you know.

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Even even a special Paul, even a special prosecutor. Remember

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he interviewed to me, he said, he's so feeble. He

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couldn't you know, he couldn't handle the pressure of of

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a you know, of a courtroom process, and then he

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couldn't remember things, you know, again reinforcing what the doctors

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had established earlier. And of course it was everything that

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we've seen. And I'm thinking, my goodness, I mean, what

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did he have at that point? Still another year and

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a half of his presidency, and the special prosecutor himself

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identifies that this man is deficient, and we still let

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him have the keys to the nuclear suitcase.

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Well, that's exactly right.

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And and we had waiting in the wings was Vice

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President Kamala Harris.

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Right, and she and she was.

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You know, she was very much aware of all of this,

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and you know, she she didn't talk about it at

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the time, and when she was asked about it during

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about Biden's potential dementia or whatever it was that he

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might have had, she denied it. And she denied it

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all the way through into the campaign, into the summer

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of twenty twenty four, and then all of a sudden,

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she just gets anointed with the you know, these people

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who preach, you know, democracy, democracy. Right, she didn't win

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a single she didn't win a single primary vote. Biden

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won them all, and then they were all just given

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to her and she got the nomination, but she helped

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cover this up. Yeah, and so circling back to what

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you're talking about in Minneapolis, you know, this was a

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crisis created by Biden, whether through incompetence, unawareness, you know,

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cognitive deficiencies, you know, and maybe even perhaps malice wanting

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to flood the border, or maybe advisors around him doing it.

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And now it's left to Donald Trump to clean it up.

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And that makes Trump the bad guy. And really what's

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even worse about this is it makes all these poor

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Ice agents.

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You know, how would you like that job?

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Off exactly.

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How would you like that job?

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I mean, Greg Bavino said, thank you very much for

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giving me a reassignment. I need this job like I

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need a hole in the head. I don't care how

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much you're paying me. It's not worth it, you know,

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to have myself, my own life threatened, my family threatened,

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all this stuff. He's not getting the support of local officials,

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the lawlessness.

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That's taking place.

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And then Donald Trump is walking a tight wire here

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politically as well, and so probably for working their tails off,

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putting their lives in danger, Greg Bovino and Christy Nome

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and others may end up paying the price.

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We got to go in to a quick break. We've

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got more from Paul after this, stay with us.

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Welcome back Bill Martinez here with doctor Paul Kingar, Professor

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of Political Science and Chief Academic Fellow of the Institute

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for Faith and Freedom at Groth City College. Paul sadly,

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I mean, I'm disappointed that you know for Greg Vovino

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and Christina and what are they guilty of following orders

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from the president and seventy seven million voters who said

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we want this cleaned up.

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Yeah, well, it's exactly right, and it's their job as basically,

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you know, sort of law enforcement officers, right or people

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enforcing the law of the land. And among the things

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that the president agrees to in the Constitution is to

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protect the security of the United.

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States, right, exactly.

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That's one thing.

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I mean, you could argue about other aspects of presidential authority,

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if the president has the right to do this or that,

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even if you even if Donald Trump has the right

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to negotiate what he's negotiating with Greenland, I suppose, right,

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But on something like this, yeah, I mean, this is

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the purview of the President of the United States certainly

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people like Department of Justice, the chief law enforcement officer.

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So really they're just doing their jobs. You know, A

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lot of this reminds me. You and I are both

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old enough to at least remember this from the you know,

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late sixties, nineteen seventies and early nineteen eighties, we were

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closer to this period.

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It kind of reminds me of Kent State.

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Yes, and where you know, the one President Richard Nixon

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National Guard in Ohio, and you know that actually happened

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on the sending into the National Guard. That actually happened

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on college campuses throughout the country that year. And in

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many cases you had students who would go up and

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agitate and provoke these poor National Guard kids for you know,

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like twenty twenty one, twenty two year old kids, young

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people with guns when they're twenty four to seven. And

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Kent State was just a complete zoo. I mean, they

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the students were constantly throwing rocks at the National guardsmen,

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throwing molotov cocktails, going up, calling them every possible name.

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You had once again kind of foul potty mouth what

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today we would call woke women going up and f

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bombing them, and and you know, you know, flashing them

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and like provocatory ways, and you're doing everything that they

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could to set these guys off. And at some point,

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I mean, these people are only human, They're not they're

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not cyborgs.

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And and.

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Eventually you're gonna get to the point where somebody who's

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holding a gun is going to pull a trigger, whether

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under pressure or or even accidental. You know, this is

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part of One of the reasons that presidents Reagan and

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Gorbachev and Kennedy and Khrushchev put the red line the

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hot line in the White House and the Kremlin is

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because there's always the possibility of, you know, something accidentally

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happening exactly exactly, somebody setting off the bomb, somebody pulling

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the trigger, someone pushing the button, so to set so

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to have these left wing agitators on social media and

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everything going all around the country provoking these guys. I mean,

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you're you're you know, you're asking for it. You're you're

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asking for something to happen. You don't go and goof

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off around people with guns. I tell my kids, right,

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guns are not something you play with. My mom always

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told me, right, Unloaded guns are what kill people. Right

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to be like, oh mom, come on, if it's unloaded,

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it can't kill people.

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You know.

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The whole point of that is, well, you never know.

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You might think it's unloaded, right, and it turns out

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to be loaded. You know, these aren't toys, and be

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grown ups, be responsible and try to realize above all

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these ice agents, I wouldn't be surprised if half of

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them are registered Democrats, right, you know, these are these

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are human beings and and you need to treat them differently.

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Yeah, I'll tell you I could never do their job.

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I was sharing with my wife.

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I just said that if I was a police officer

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and I had a woman blowing a whistle in my face,

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I might take care of that problem really quick.

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And that wouldn't be Yeah.

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I mean that kind of thing pushes you on edge.

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Yeah, put you on.

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And then you have local officials, you have the governor,

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you have the mayor, you have the attorney general promoting

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this kind of behavior and lawlessness.

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I mean it's just like here it is.

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I mean, you didn't see enough and experience enough during

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the George Floyd rites, And interestingly enough, here we are

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ground Central again.

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Billions of dollars of damage and all this stuff.

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And this wackiness and defunding police coming out of Minnesota.

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And now it's we're going to defund ice. Okay, so

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we're going to defund ice. So what's your idea. Seventy

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seven million voters said enough is enough. We need to

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get these illegal immigrants out of here. And we're not

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talking about somebody that just you know, goes and mows

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your lawn or you know, changes your betting. We're talking

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some really bad people that have been involved in sex trafficking, murder, rape.

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Children.

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I mean, now they're talking, you know, Paul, they're talking

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as many as five hundred thousand kids are still lost.

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Well, and unfortunately it's the ICE agents that have to

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do the enforcement, right, and they know none of that,

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and you know, they don't know the difference between I mean, look,

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i mean, out of ten illegal immigrants, right, I mean,

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I'm sure that nine out of ten are good people, right,

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But but all you need is one out of ten

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who's not.

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And hey, it only took nineteen to create all kinds

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of problems, you know, back in two thousand and one.

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Right, Well, that's right, that's right.

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And really, and I mean, frankly, what we're seeing right

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now in Minnesota and elsewhere, these blow ups, they're not

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even caused by the actual legal immigrants. They're caused by

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by you know, woke, middle aged white liberals going again

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and agitating to that.

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So we're finding we're finding out also, Paul, do you

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got these people? You got the CCP involved with it,

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got Soros's group, you got Black Lives Matter, you have Antifa,

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you've got Iran tentacles in here. I mean they're all

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they're all involved in supporting these people, because look at

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the signs. I mean they look all professional. The equipment

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that these agitators have, I mean, these aren't cheap, cheap

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accessories that they're bringing to this, you know, would be

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riot right.

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Well, yeah, they're professional agitators. In fact, they teach my

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course on Marxism at Grove City College right now in

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the current semester, and one of the things we do

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when we start class is I'll pull up on the

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big overhead screen the latest websites and postings by Communist

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Party USA, which is CPUSA dot org People's World, which

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is the successor to the Daily Worker, the flagship of

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the Communist Party USA, the website of RevCom, Revolutionary Communist

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Party USA DSA, Democratic Socialists of America, the Trotskyists, the Militant,

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their publication, and all of them have have have have ads,

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have calls, have have places to go directing people where

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to go to protest what's happening with Ice. So you know,

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so this is a call to arms, or at least

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to call it a protest.

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Right.

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In some cases, apparently some of these people are actually

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armed to go there and agitate. And by the way,

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and and also that should be pointed out, the ICE

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agents don't know who's arm right. I mean, it's bad

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enough if someone could run you over in a car

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or might want to bite your finger off. But you know,

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one of these these people start carrying guns and uh.

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And there are planning sessions you could find online amongst

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some of these far left groups about teaching people firearms,

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how to use firearms. So they are rightly on edge.

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These people, like a lot of our cops, God bless them,

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their their wives and kids. Yeah, when you don't know

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if they're going to see see them home that night

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for dinner.

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Well exactly.

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And and as you say, I mean in this last

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unfortunate and I say an unfortunate situation on one hand,

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you know, and I say for the uh for the

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officer involved here with Alex Pretty's uh death. But what's

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what's Alex Pretty thinking? I mean, he brings a gun

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into a situation that's going to be confrontational, it's loaded.

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Uh.

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I mean, come on, I mean I want to have

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I want to have sympathy, but I also want to say,

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you know, people, people like that are just playing stupid,

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They're they're asking for problems.

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Well, if if a if a police officer, I have

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a concealed carry permit, right, yeah, if a police officer

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would pull me over in my car for like a

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burnout headlight, right and we still do all the time,

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or for whatever else and says to me something like

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he little mister kangoorid, do you have any firearms in

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the car? Right? I would say, yes, sir, I do, sir,

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I have I have a concealed carry permit, sir, and

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it's it's in my bag over there. And you know,

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just tell me whatever you want me to do, right

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if I don't even.

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Wait, I don't even wait for them to ask me, Paul,

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I tell them I go, look at I have a

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conciled carry permit I have. I have a weapon in

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the car with me right now. And so just just

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you're aware, and I make sure they see my hands.

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That's the one thing that my dad always said. You

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put your hands on the top of the steering wheel,

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turn the if it's at night, you turn the interior

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light on, so that you're giving the officer every bit

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of help that he needs in order to do his

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job and he's not threatened in any way that it's

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like oop, sorry, accident.

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You know, we don't need that.

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Yeah, every single cop show you watch on TV, right,

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the cops are yelling, right, put up your hands, put

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up your hands. And it's when you don't put up

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your hands that they get really angry and pin you

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to the ground, push you down, put your hands beyond

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the back and handcuff your Yeah, you have to. You

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don't mess with police, with ice agents. You don't mess

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with people who have guns. Liberal guns are not toys. Yes, okay,

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you know, so have some sympathy, be decent, and you know,

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quit agitating and provoking so many of these poor people.

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Could you imagine doing that job like like fifty sixty

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hours a week. I mean, you and I be like,

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we're on phones, we're on computers right now. Well, we

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could walk into our kitchen, get something to drink. I'll

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get in my car, drive over to the college, teach

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a class.

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Maybe drop off.

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Imagine just being at one of these rallies in freezing

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cold weather every day while people are screaming at you,

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I mean exactly, Imagine what the anxiety and stress that

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that these people are unders.

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Yeah, can you say PTSD, Yes, these people mentally are

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going to be It's it's impossible to be affected by that.

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I mean they are fellow human beings that have been

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called to do a job that if they don't do it,

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who is going to do it?

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Paul?

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Right?

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Right, Yeah, no, that's right.

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Well, we got to leave it there, Paul. As always,

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we appreciate the insight. Hey, next time we get together,

478
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we'll talk about the new World Order that Trump announced,

479
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the DeVos. Maybe bugs are out in real meat, maybe

480
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coming back?

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What do you think?

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Yeah, yeah, quite wist.

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Yes for fun.

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You got it all right, Doctor Paul Kengar, Professor of

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Political Science and Chief Academic Fellow at the Institute for

486
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Faith and Freedom of Grove City College.

487
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Thank you, Paul, Happy new year, my friend.

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Save you Bill, Thanks take care, I got it.

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John ze Meerck, the one and only. Hey John, how

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Good?

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Bill?

558
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The storm has finally started to The snow's starting to

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melt here in Dallas. We don't know how to deal

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with snow in Dallas. We don't have trucks with sand

561
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and salt. The roads just iceover and everybody stays home.

562
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I was locked in my house for four days. I

563
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was going curtzy.

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Oh no, wow, that's great.

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Well, better that you stay home than risk the elements,

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you're driving on ice cubes.

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That's dangerous. Yeah, no, pretty crazy.

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Now I'm with you on that. Well, thank god, stay safe,

572
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my friend. Hey, lots to catch up on. First of all,

573
00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:19.359
I want to talk about Tom Homan. Uh wow, uh

574
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Donald Trump, I mean this really uh bespeaks of Donald

575
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Trump's leadership that he saw problems there in Minnesota. He extricated,

576
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uh you know the gosh his name escapes me suddenly,

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and I don't know why it does, but forgive me. Uh.

578
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He was the head of ice or Border Patrol and.

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Greg Bungino, No, I say Bongino, It's not Bungino, but

580
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but yes, Greg, Greg Bovino, Yes, thank you very much.

581
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Just lost my mind there for a moment. Anyway, Uh,

582
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he extricates Bovino because he's the poster child of all

583
00:30:57.640 --> 00:31:00.680
this angst that was happening on the streets, and Bobino's

584
00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:03.279
guilty of doing his job. So but that's okay, you know,

585
00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:06.440
let's just reassign him, get him out of the fray. Christy,

586
00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:10.000
no him the same thing. Bring Homan in whose law

587
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enforcement's law enforcement, dude, and comes in and just he

588
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doesn't say anything different than anybody is saying, but in

589
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the manner in which he presented, very calm, very official,

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00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:26.920
with authority, and laid it out, you know, common sense.

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Just hey, look at you don't want us in the streets,

592
00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:30.680
you want less of it. Well, the best way to

593
00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:33.200
do it is cooperate. Let us go pick him up

594
00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:36.000
in the jails and this way, nope, you know this

595
00:31:36.079 --> 00:31:39.880
will reduce a lot of the angst and the conflict

596
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out there.

597
00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:43.720
Well, we don't have to do paramilitary style operations in

598
00:31:43.799 --> 00:31:46.839
Texas because local law enforcement is cooperating. But when the

599
00:31:46.920 --> 00:31:50.960
police are openly on the side of keeping violent felons

600
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in the country, then you know, you either surrender the

601
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rule of law. You either say the federal law does

602
00:31:58.839 --> 00:32:01.200
not apply in the stated mini soda the way it

603
00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:04.240
didn't apply in South Carolina in eighteen sixty one after

604
00:32:04.319 --> 00:32:05.000
Fort Sumter.

605
00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:08.799
Or you enforce the law, but there are.

606
00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:14.359
Gangs organized, gangs of communist activists. Why Rene good like

607
00:32:14.440 --> 00:32:18.200
that pretty guy. They are communist activists whose job it

608
00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:24.039
is to interfere with law enforcement, to endanger them, to

609
00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:29.960
attack their cars, to interfere with the rests. Imagine if Republicans,

610
00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:34.680
if armed Republicans had tried to interfere with the January

611
00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:35.200
sixth the.

612
00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:38.319
Rests, maybe we should have. Maybe we should have. We

613
00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:39.519
would have seen what happened.

614
00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:43.880
Can you imagine the Biden administration allowing armed Texans to

615
00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:48.000
prevent the arrest of January sixth suspects by federal agents

616
00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:52.319
after the twenty twenty election. That's the equivalent of what's happening.

617
00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:54.680
They don't like the law, so they've decided they're going

618
00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:55.240
to flout it.

619
00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:56.359
They're going to get.

620
00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:58.960
Their activists killed so that they can all be George

621
00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:02.960
Floyd clones. They could all be martyrs to Republican violence

622
00:33:03.240 --> 00:33:10.079
and militarized policing and the fascist Gestapo. Uh well, if

623
00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:13.400
you keep calling federal law enforcement Nazis, don't be surprised

624
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:15.759
when people kill them. We all grew up watching movies

625
00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:18.799
of our heroes killing Nazis and it was a good thing.

626
00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:23.599
So if you tell people Ice agents are Nazis, as

627
00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:28.079
one Catholic bishop actually from West Virginia actually compared Ice

628
00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:32.799
to the Gestapo and to slave catchers during before the

629
00:33:32.839 --> 00:33:38.440
Civil War, you are you are legitimizing organized violence against

630
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:42.640
the US federal government. That's treason, that's sedition. I think

631
00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:45.680
Trump should have invoked the Insurrection Act. I think Tim

632
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:48.960
Watts and his lieutenant governor both belong in handcuffs in

633
00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:50.720
a federal cell and I hope.

634
00:33:50.599 --> 00:33:54.519
It, along with the mayor and Keith Ellison, put him

635
00:33:54.519 --> 00:33:57.359
in paddy wagons, take them away. Because they have done

636
00:33:57.400 --> 00:34:01.759
a lot to ignite this angst and to make room.

637
00:34:01.799 --> 00:34:06.240
They basically have accommodated these anarchists.

638
00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:09.800
And they're cooperating with them directly. They're doing signal chats

639
00:34:09.800 --> 00:34:12.679
with them. The lieutenant governor of Minnesota was on a

640
00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:17.199
signal chat with the ANTIFI activists. They are it's an

641
00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:21.519
open conspiracy by communist revolutionaries and we have to see

642
00:34:21.519 --> 00:34:22.440
it for what it is.

643
00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:23.559
Read their rhetoric.

644
00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:26.599
They're talking about after the next election, they're going to

645
00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:29.639
arrest Donald Trump and his supporters. They're talking about a

646
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:33.079
political purge. Remember Hillary Clinton talked about the need for

647
00:34:33.199 --> 00:34:37.400
re education camps for Trump voters. Right exactly, That is

648
00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:43.360
what happens when you let the demonic ideology take over.

649
00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:48.000
It's a replacement gospel for Christianity. I talk about white guilt.

650
00:34:48.840 --> 00:34:52.920
White guilt is a replacement. It's it pretends that it

651
00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:56.639
is the implication of Christianity. It pretends that it's our

652
00:34:56.760 --> 00:35:01.480
duty to liquidate our countries, to liquidate our sovereignty, to

653
00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:04.840
import infinity immigrants from hellhold is standing, give them all

654
00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:08.360
sex change operations on the taxpayer's dime. I mean, it

655
00:35:08.519 --> 00:35:11.119
sounds crazy, but all of these things really happen.

656
00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:16.039
Right, Well, let's whole logic leads to these Yeah. Well,

657
00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:18.639
the deal is again, like you said in the mind, because.

658
00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:22.559
We sound crazy for talking. We sound crazy for talking

659
00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:25.519
about the things that the left actually does. But it

660
00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:29.039
sounds so crazy, we seem like nutcases. But in fact

661
00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:33.079
we're just pointing to actual events and the actual aspirations

662
00:35:33.079 --> 00:35:36.320
and policies of the radical left which have taken over

663
00:35:36.400 --> 00:35:42.719
most of our leading institutions, universities, churches, the National Catholic

664
00:35:42.800 --> 00:35:45.599
Register ran a column by a priest talking about what

665
00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:48.960
a gentle soul that that pretty guy was. And now

666
00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:51.800
we have video of him attacking ice vehicles, smashing their

667
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:54.599
tail lights, kicking the cars while carrying a gun.

668
00:35:55.199 --> 00:35:59.400
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And you know again, and I've mentioned

669
00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:01.679
this a couple of times, John, do you remember that

670
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:05.280
video that Chris Rock did back in the early two thousands,

671
00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:06.800
You know, get.

672
00:36:06.679 --> 00:36:08.559
How not to get shot by the police.

673
00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:12.960
No, how not to get your I'll say, but he

674
00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:15.519
used the other word, because he's Chris Rock, how not

675
00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:16.199
to get your.

676
00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:17.159
Butt kicked by the.

677
00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:21.599
Police, very commonly and very common sensical. I'm saying you

678
00:36:21.679 --> 00:36:25.880
need that on a loop there in downtown Minneapolis, just

679
00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:29.800
to kind of educate these people because.

680
00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:32.400
But in fact, they're getting trained in the exact opposite.

681
00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:36.400
They're getting great to provoke violent responses from ice so

682
00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:39.159
that they can get shot, so that they can be martyrs,

683
00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:44.320
so that hysterical chardinay moms on Instagram can can start

684
00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:47.559
yelling at their husbands that Trump is a fascist. I mean,

685
00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:51.320
this is all coordinated. They know how to play the

686
00:36:51.400 --> 00:36:53.719
voters like a piano exactly.

687
00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:55.920
And now it's not defund police like it was during

688
00:36:55.960 --> 00:36:58.960
the George Floyd era, along with twenty seven million dollars.

689
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:01.039
Though by the way that the the city.

690
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:04.599
I'm sure there was government funds involved there, public taxpayer money.

691
00:37:04.760 --> 00:37:07.079
And how much public taxpayer money is going to pay

692
00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:09.280
off the good family or pay off the pretty family,

693
00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:12.760
you know with some sort of not class action but

694
00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:14.119
some sort of civil lawsuits.

695
00:37:14.119 --> 00:37:17.239
Well, remember all those blue cities that paid the protesters'

696
00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:21.119
reparations for stopping them from burning down their cities during

697
00:37:21.159 --> 00:37:23.960
the George Floyd Bryants. They didn't arrest those people, they

698
00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:25.119
actually paid them off.

699
00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:27.960
Yeah. Well, and Kamala Harris, how many people did she

700
00:37:28.079 --> 00:37:28.519
bail out?

701
00:37:28.599 --> 00:37:29.519
Right? That's right?

702
00:37:29.559 --> 00:37:33.639
And remember never forget Michelle Obama going on television during

703
00:37:33.679 --> 00:37:38.639
the Democratic National Convention of twenty twenty saying, you people

704
00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:42.320
think it can't get worse, it will get worse unless

705
00:37:42.519 --> 00:37:43.760
you elect Joe Biden.

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Vote as if your life depends.

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On it, because it does.

708
00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:50.800
That was a death threat. She was threatening violence against

709
00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:52.679
Americans unless they voted her way.

710
00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:55.199
Yeah, well, why are we surprised? I mean that goes

711
00:37:55.239 --> 00:37:58.800
along with the Obamas. Remember Obama threatened the Supreme Court

712
00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:01.480
if they didn't if they got in a way and

713
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714
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715
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happened to it, That's all I'm saying.

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And be a real terrible same. We would hate to

717
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see that, wouldn't weave veto?

718
00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:17.719
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719
00:38:17.760 --> 00:38:23.119
horse head in his bed, just imagining, that's all. But no,

720
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it's just craziness. And the thing is is we don't

721
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need to lose their mind while they're losing theirs. But

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there's a clear distinction here, and that is that the

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worldview the left has is ungodly. It's anti God. It's

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always been anti good and that's what we're dealing with.

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And so people of faith, people who have a worldview

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that belongs and is associated with the Word of God

727
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and committed to God Almighty, need to understand that we

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are in the middle of a war and this is

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a time that you need to armor up right right.

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Absolutely, it's a spiritual war on many many fronts. The

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Christians being person to Nigeria, that's one front. Men like

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00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:06.719
Tommy Robinson in Britain trying to save their country from

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mass immigration from especially from the muzzle world. That's another

734
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front standing up to the radical left here at home,

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even when it exerts a cost, even when it gets

736
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you ostracized, even when it it might get you fired.

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I mean, people pay a price. Look at what the

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January sixth protesters went through. Their lives were destroyed for

739
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showing up for a non violent protest. The same people

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who thought it was fine to shoot down Ashley Babbitt,

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who posed no threat to anyone, are now pretending that

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these rioters attacking federal law enforcement are somehow martyrs.

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Hey, we're back with you. Bill Martinez here with doctor

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John Zamark. Always great to have him, YOURII.

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He's the author and editor of Christian Nation, which is

821
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part of Old Robinson Substack, And of course you know

822
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his books that he has written, everything from The Politically

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Incorrect Guide to Catholicism and of course his news book

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No Second Amendment.

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No First, absolutely brilliant. John. I got to tell you,

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thank you.

827
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Thank you, Bill. My latest thing over at Emerald Robinson

828
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Substack is a column I wrote about the spiritual roots

829
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of abortion, because remember the last week was the martial life,

830
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this wonderful, inspiring thing that's been going on since nineteen

831
00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:30.559
seventy four. I think one hundred thousand or more people

832
00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:33.360
every year march in the snow and the freezing ice

833
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of Washington, d C. And the media always reports it

834
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like seventeen old ladies.

835
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You know, that's what they that's if they reported at all.

836
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Yeah, me all, that's thousands of college students brought by

837
00:44:44.440 --> 00:44:48.440
wonderful organizations like Students for Life of America. I just

838
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want to tell people, if you want to support a

839
00:44:50.760 --> 00:44:55.079
pro life organization, that really has impact. It goes out

840
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to young people, it gives them the best arguments. It

841
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helps pregnant stud udents stay in school, students for Life

842
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of America. It fights in the courtrooms, it fights at

843
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the ballot box. I really recommend people follow it and

844
00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:11.039
support it financially.

845
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It's the best pro life.

846
00:45:12.719 --> 00:45:15.000
Organization out there. And I'm not at work for them.

847
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I'm not being paid to say that, but I have

848
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friends with Kristin Hawkins, who runs it, and she's a

849
00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:24.760
fantastic lady. So my column over at Emerald Robinson's substack

850
00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:31.480
Christian Nation, I talk about how abortion is a fundamental

851
00:45:31.599 --> 00:45:36.320
rejection of God's creation of the whole universe, but especially

852
00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:40.199
of human life. If you say that it's better that

853
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you not be born, you're essentially saying the human life

854
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is fundamentally a negative thing.

855
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It's fundamentally not worth it.

856
00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:51.039
And that's sort of feeds into the environmentalist telling us

857
00:45:51.079 --> 00:45:54.519
not to have any children, celebrating the collapsing populations all

858
00:45:54.559 --> 00:45:59.320
around the world. It's a philosophy of despair, and abortion

859
00:45:59.519 --> 00:46:03.840
is an act of despair. It's saying that this wonderful

860
00:46:03.880 --> 00:46:08.440
new life that your body has crafted, that God has

861
00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:11.239
planted a soul into that it would be better for

862
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that child if he just never been, never be born.

863
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That the human experience is so grim, you have so

864
00:46:18.239 --> 00:46:21.920
little hope in the future, that you can't nurture this

865
00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:24.920
thing that your body is struggling to protect, that your

866
00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:30.440
instincts tell you to protect. At every society ever since,

867
00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:35.320
Christianity has wanted to protect until the nineteen seventies, when

868
00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:41.320
we decided that random sexual pleasure as a recreational sport

869
00:46:41.719 --> 00:46:45.119
was more important than human life, or maybe that life

870
00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:47.480
was so unbearable that we just needed lots of sex

871
00:46:47.559 --> 00:46:50.239
to get us through it, and we're going to spare

872
00:46:50.280 --> 00:46:54.599
these little kids the unwholesome experience of actually having to

873
00:46:54.679 --> 00:46:57.000
live three score and ten on this planet.

874
00:46:57.519 --> 00:46:57.920
Anyway.

875
00:46:58.039 --> 00:47:00.920
So it's a piece I wrote back in fifteen, and

876
00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:04.559
it was actually I wrote it because of the release

877
00:47:04.599 --> 00:47:07.280
of the Planned Parenthood videos that David de Lighton did

878
00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:11.159
showing that Plant Paradigm exactly was indeed selling baby parts

879
00:47:11.159 --> 00:47:13.639
for profit, and they later we found out during the

880
00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:18.480
COVID panic, the National Institute for Health, run by supposedly

881
00:47:18.599 --> 00:47:25.679
evangelical Christian Francis Collins, was doing hideous experiments taking babies

882
00:47:25.719 --> 00:47:29.599
who were aborted for that purpose, freshly, taking them out

883
00:47:29.639 --> 00:47:34.199
alive and taking their organs to graft them onto mice

884
00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:39.239
in these bizarre Frankenstein experiments that allegedly were supposed to

885
00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:42.320
help us cure COVID. It was all part of the

886
00:47:42.360 --> 00:47:46.519
monstrous abuse of the medical profession and the violation of

887
00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:50.400
medical privacy that was the COVID panic that the Democrats

888
00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:53.719
were all up and on, and unfortunately our bishops were

889
00:47:53.800 --> 00:47:55.280
largely complicit in that too.

890
00:47:55.960 --> 00:47:58.079
Yeah, it was broad, there's no doubt about it. And

891
00:47:58.119 --> 00:48:00.159
you talk about Dave de Leighton, David de Lydon, the

892
00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:03.159
only one that went to jail planned parenthood. These people

893
00:48:03.159 --> 00:48:08.039
that were caught on tape directly, they were indictable, should

894
00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:12.039
have been jailed. Nobody went to jail, only David de Lighton,

895
00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:15.159
and I think his legal expenses have surpassed over a

896
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:16.159
half million dollars.

897
00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:19.679
Yeah, they were trying to put him in prison for journalism. Right,

898
00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:22.360
the left had wonderful double standards.

899
00:48:23.679 --> 00:48:27.039
But getting back to the foundational issue, John, the issue

900
00:48:27.079 --> 00:48:31.280
here is it's it's either you're in line with God

901
00:48:31.480 --> 00:48:32.400
or you're against God.

902
00:48:32.440 --> 00:48:33.159
It's anti good.

903
00:48:33.639 --> 00:48:34.679
There's no neutrality.

904
00:48:34.920 --> 00:48:37.280
Yeah, there's no there's no gray area.

905
00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:39.599
It don't get to be a Switzerland in this life.

906
00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:42.280
You're either with God or you're with the devil, exactly.

907
00:48:43.159 --> 00:48:44.760
And the deal last is that The other thing comes

908
00:48:44.760 --> 00:48:46.480
to mind as you're saying this is that, you know,

909
00:48:46.519 --> 00:48:48.760
we got roughly three hundred and forty million people in

910
00:48:48.800 --> 00:48:53.480
America right. Tell me of the of these people that

911
00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:58.960
are here, which parents just had everything absolutely perfect that

912
00:48:59.119 --> 00:49:02.000
what they got pregnant they were there. I mean, how

913
00:49:02.119 --> 00:49:06.320
many parents you know, had babies when maybe they were

914
00:49:06.360 --> 00:49:09.440
in their teenage years and they were you know, living

915
00:49:09.519 --> 00:49:13.639
off of you know, a dollar can of soup or whatever.

916
00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:16.440
A lot of people, a lot of children are born

917
00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:19.360
whose fathers are serving overseas in the military.

918
00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:20.199
Exactly.

919
00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:23.199
That's not fun, no, But but you know, here it

920
00:49:23.320 --> 00:49:28.079
is our society because we we've determined that we need

921
00:49:28.119 --> 00:49:31.760
to live a life of convenience. Somehow we look that

922
00:49:32.039 --> 00:49:33.679
having children is inconvenient.

923
00:49:33.880 --> 00:49:36.320
Well, and that's what the whole IVF industry is about.

924
00:49:36.719 --> 00:49:42.239
It's about letting pregnancy becomes a scientific experiment. Something you plan,

925
00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:46.039
you freeze your eggs, or you conceive the embryos and

926
00:49:46.079 --> 00:49:48.960
you freeze them. There are hundreds of thousands of frozen

927
00:49:49.000 --> 00:49:54.320
babies at IVF labs all around America, and now surrogacy

928
00:49:54.559 --> 00:49:57.800
is a huge problem. There's a Chinese billionaire who had

929
00:49:57.800 --> 00:50:01.679
one hundred American babies by urgacy, and he's from he's

930
00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:05.239
in China. Wants to run the lives of those kids,

931
00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:08.559
wants to arrange their marriages. And they're all American citizens,

932
00:50:08.559 --> 00:50:10.559
they can all run for president. I mean, it's and

933
00:50:10.599 --> 00:50:14.880
you have American agencies doing this for Chinese billionaires with

934
00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:18.039
women they never met, children they may never meet. It's

935
00:50:18.079 --> 00:50:23.760
so it's a profoundly unnatural, anti natural and again it

936
00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:26.079
is the enemy. It is the devil trying to get

937
00:50:26.159 --> 00:50:30.039
us to rebel against creation, against the laws of creation

938
00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:34.199
that God wrote into our human nature and the natural

939
00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:35.880
law that he wrote on the human heart.

940
00:50:36.360 --> 00:50:36.719
Exactly.

941
00:50:36.840 --> 00:50:40.000
That's what I talk about over at Emerald Robinson's subsept

942
00:50:40.079 --> 00:50:40.719
Christian Nation.

943
00:50:41.199 --> 00:50:43.639
Go look it up and subscribe exactly.

944
00:50:43.840 --> 00:50:44.039
Well.

945
00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:46.199
And the other thing, just as a sidebar, if the

946
00:50:46.239 --> 00:50:49.760
Democrats realize that we have all these babies in test

947
00:50:49.760 --> 00:50:52.800
tubes that are citizens, they're going to find a way

948
00:50:53.239 --> 00:50:54.480
to make them voters.

949
00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:58.079
That's right, They're gonna they'll put them in the voter database.

950
00:50:58.079 --> 00:51:00.280
I mean, that's what all this illy, That's what the

951
00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:01.519
support for illegal.

952
00:51:01.239 --> 00:51:02.360
Immigration is all about.

953
00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:05.079
For the Democrats, they want these people here, then they

954
00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:08.079
want to give them my D cards that ended through

955
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956
00:51:12.320 --> 00:51:14.320
to vote, or is at least the names are in

957
00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:17.599
the database and the Democrats can use their election fraud

958
00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:22.320
software to inject those votes as needed in swing states.

959
00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:25.480
As we saw happened in real time the night of

960
00:51:25.559 --> 00:51:27.039
twenty twenty exactly.

961
00:51:27.239 --> 00:51:30.119
And the thing in night, this thing that still amazes me, John,

962
00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:33.320
This is on the hills of nine to eleven, right,

963
00:51:33.760 --> 00:51:37.599
nineteen people it took to bring down almost bring down America,

964
00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:39.039
our economy and everything else.

965
00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:41.280
Right, And they all and most of them had overstayed

966
00:51:41.280 --> 00:51:43.079
their visa, should have been deported already.

967
00:51:43.440 --> 00:51:43.639
Right.

968
00:51:43.840 --> 00:51:46.960
And so knowing that we invade Iraq, we decided we're

969
00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:49.440
going to remake the whole Muslim world so that it'll

970
00:51:49.480 --> 00:51:52.239
be safe instead of controlling our own borders.

971
00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:52.920
And George W.

972
00:51:53.000 --> 00:51:57.880
Bush running around saying religious Islam is a religion of peace. Yeah,

973
00:51:57.920 --> 00:51:59.639
they want a piece of Egypt, They want a piece

974
00:51:59.679 --> 00:52:02.519
of say, a lot a piece of Spain that like

975
00:52:02.559 --> 00:52:05.280
a piece of Greece and Bulgaria, they're like a piece of.

976
00:52:05.320 --> 00:52:07.079
Us all, yes, exactly.

977
00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:09.280
And the thing is is that here we passed the

978
00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:12.480
Patriot Act on the heels of this, and now you

979
00:52:12.519 --> 00:52:14.440
can't get on a plane unless you have the proper

980
00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:17.679
identification you're and the only way you can get on

981
00:52:17.719 --> 00:52:18.960
a plane is if you have.

982
00:52:19.360 --> 00:52:20.639
A driver's license.

983
00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:23.519
And all of a sudden, I mean how many years

984
00:52:23.559 --> 00:52:25.320
after that, all of a sudden, you get the motor

985
00:52:25.360 --> 00:52:29.119
voter law. California went absolutely nuts with it, right, and

986
00:52:29.239 --> 00:52:32.199
so anytime you got you know, everybody you get a

987
00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:34.119
driver I mean they went oprah. You know, you get

988
00:52:34.119 --> 00:52:36.239
a driver's like you get everybody gets a driver's license.

989
00:52:36.559 --> 00:52:39.639
But yeah, and if you're in California, you can get

990
00:52:39.639 --> 00:52:41.719
a commercial license and drive a truck even if you

991
00:52:41.719 --> 00:52:44.400
can't read the road signs in English. Right, Think of

992
00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:49.360
all those illegal immigrants driving forty thousand pound trucks on

993
00:52:49.400 --> 00:52:50.360
our highway.

994
00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:54.000
Who literally can't read what it says. The bridge is

995
00:52:54.039 --> 00:52:57.440
too long. Yeah, well the bridge is too weak. Truck

996
00:52:57.440 --> 00:52:59.920
weighs too much. They anyway, And.

997
00:53:01.239 --> 00:53:04.000
Gavin Newsom wants us to believe that like why is

998
00:53:04.039 --> 00:53:07.920
that a problem? You know, he tries to defend it.

999
00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:08.760
It's amazing to me.

1000
00:53:09.880 --> 00:53:12.039
We are we are on the knife edge in this country.

1001
00:53:12.119 --> 00:53:12.760
We really are.

1002
00:53:14.119 --> 00:53:17.599
So I want to encourage people, I think, to see

1003
00:53:17.599 --> 00:53:21.360
things more in a spiritual perspective, that we are in

1004
00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:26.559
a multi front spiritual war for the soul of this country,

1005
00:53:26.760 --> 00:53:28.800
really with the soul of the whole world, but especially

1006
00:53:29.000 --> 00:53:34.519
our own country, and that people who are partisans of chaos, disorder,

1007
00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:40.320
violent confrontation with federal law enforcement agents, the same people

1008
00:53:40.320 --> 00:53:43.119
who wanted us to burn our cities and abolish the

1009
00:53:43.119 --> 00:53:48.800
police during the George Floyd brew. Haha, they are not

1010
00:53:49.679 --> 00:53:53.559
They're not just misguided people. They're being guided. They're being

1011
00:53:53.599 --> 00:53:59.360
guided by spirits. Yeah, it's too coordinated, it's it's no

1012
00:53:59.519 --> 00:54:04.119
human can conspiracy is effective enough, is competent enough to

1013
00:54:04.199 --> 00:54:06.599
achieve the level of destruction we've seen in this country

1014
00:54:06.599 --> 00:54:08.519
in the last six or seven years. And of course

1015
00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:12.280
people try to blame Donald Trump. Donald Trump's the one

1016
00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:16.719
who introduced this era of chaos and destruction. Well, no, basically,

1017
00:54:16.760 --> 00:54:19.440
it was a one sided civil war and only one

1018
00:54:19.480 --> 00:54:21.880
side was fighting, and then when the other started, some

1019
00:54:22.519 --> 00:54:25.280
of us decided to start fighting again. Oh oh, there's

1020
00:54:25.320 --> 00:54:28.239
an upsurge in violence. Yeah, because people are defending themselves.

1021
00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:31.519
They're trying to defend their country from being turned into

1022
00:54:31.519 --> 00:54:36.199
just a holding station for refugees whose every need is

1023
00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:39.440
taken care of by the government reaching his hand in

1024
00:54:39.480 --> 00:54:44.880
our pockets. The productive citizens of America being constantly taxed, inflation,

1025
00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:49.719
destroying our savings, housing shortages because we have to house

1026
00:54:49.719 --> 00:54:53.360
all these people who show up from everywhere. Under what

1027
00:54:53.599 --> 00:54:58.599
theory was it okay for Joe Biden to refuse to

1028
00:54:58.719 --> 00:55:01.440
enforce our immigration laws and let eight or ten million

1029
00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:04.559
legal people into the country. Imagine if the president said,

1030
00:55:04.559 --> 00:55:06.320
I'm not going to enforce the Civil Rights Act.

1031
00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:09.960
You can discriminate all you want, it's on the books,

1032
00:55:09.960 --> 00:55:11.199
but I'm not going to enforce it.

1033
00:55:11.679 --> 00:55:13.840
And then you try. A new president comes in and

1034
00:55:13.880 --> 00:55:15.639
you try to enforce the law, and all of a sudden, no,

1035
00:55:15.679 --> 00:55:16.519
it's fascism.

1036
00:55:16.960 --> 00:55:18.960
It's fascism exactly.

1037
00:55:19.119 --> 00:55:20.239
Yeah, you're enforcing the.

1038
00:55:20.280 --> 00:55:23.400
Laws that we passed, that our Congress passed democratically in

1039
00:55:23.440 --> 00:55:27.239
the president's signed. You're enforcing the law. That's that's that's

1040
00:55:27.280 --> 00:55:32.840
like the gestapo. Of course, by comparing immigration agents to Nazis,

1041
00:55:32.920 --> 00:55:36.360
as the one Catholic Bishop of West Virginia did you're

1042
00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:38.280
licensing violence against them.

1043
00:55:38.400 --> 00:55:40.840
I mean, we all were watching movies about how.

1044
00:55:40.719 --> 00:55:43.360
Good it was to kill Nazis at Normandy in places

1045
00:55:43.400 --> 00:55:47.920
like that. Well, if you say that these American citizens,

1046
00:55:48.159 --> 00:55:50.400
these blue collar guys who are taking on the dangerous

1047
00:55:50.480 --> 00:55:53.480
job of trying to arrest human traffickers and rapists and

1048
00:55:53.599 --> 00:55:58.000
terrorists and other illegal people present here against.

1049
00:55:57.679 --> 00:56:00.800
Start killing Americans, Yeah, exactly.

1050
00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:02.639
And you're going to compare them to Nazis. I mean,

1051
00:56:03.199 --> 00:56:06.000
this is the language that leads to civil war. This

1052
00:56:06.159 --> 00:56:09.320
is the kind of language the Nazis used against the Jews.

1053
00:56:09.400 --> 00:56:11.840
It's the kind of language the Hutus used against the

1054
00:56:11.840 --> 00:56:15.639
Tutsis before the genocide in Rwanda. It's the way the

1055
00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:18.199
government of Zimbabwe talked about the whites.

1056
00:56:18.599 --> 00:56:21.239
When you start demonizing.

1057
00:56:22.119 --> 00:56:25.559
Ordinary citizens who are just following and enforcing the law,

1058
00:56:27.400 --> 00:56:30.440
you are tearing up the social fabric and you're creating

1059
00:56:30.440 --> 00:56:33.239
a dangerous situation. And of course the left wants danger,

1060
00:56:33.480 --> 00:56:34.519
They want violence.

1061
00:56:34.559 --> 00:56:35.519
They want exactly.

1062
00:56:35.800 --> 00:56:39.000
They want people to get shot by ice agents on

1063
00:56:39.039 --> 00:56:41.760
the streets of Minneapolis so that they can wave their

1064
00:56:41.800 --> 00:56:47.000
bloody shirts around and claim that Trump is Hitler and

1065
00:56:47.039 --> 00:56:50.400
it's an astoundingly cynical tactic. The question is whether it

1066
00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:52.639
will succeed. Are we going to fall for it?

1067
00:56:53.000 --> 00:56:53.480
Exactly?

1068
00:56:53.719 --> 00:56:56.639
Well, ladies and gentlemen, you've been warned and own your

1069
00:56:56.639 --> 00:56:59.800
own knowledge, as we say, Doctor John's America. He is

1070
00:56:59.840 --> 00:57:02.679
the author and editor of Christian Nation, which is part

1071
00:57:02.719 --> 00:57:05.960
of the Emerald Robinson substack. Also the author of the

1072
00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:09.199
book No Second, No First, and the Politically Incorrect Guide

1073
00:57:09.239 --> 00:57:11.440
to Catholicism, and many other books.

1074
00:57:11.800 --> 00:57:13.400
John, How can they follow you now?

1075
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Just just google my name right, follow me over at

1076
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Christian Nation and check out my book No Second Amendment,

1077
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No First. I think you'll really enjoy it.

1078
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You got it. Thank you, my friend. Take care, God

1079
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bless you.

1080
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1100
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Getting America back on track, Bill Martinez, Live.

1101
00:58:40.760 --> 00:58:41.679
Well, Good Morning America.

1102
00:58:41.760 --> 00:58:43.880
Six minutes after the top of the hour, Bill Martinez, here,

1103
00:58:43.880 --> 00:58:47.159
we've got Julian Hagman joining us. He's been working in

1104
00:58:47.239 --> 00:58:49.360
home care in New York State for over ten years.

1105
00:58:49.559 --> 00:58:53.199
He's the chief operating officer with Carrying Professionals, which.

1106
00:58:53.199 --> 00:58:55.440
Provides home health care for elderly.

1107
00:58:55.119 --> 00:58:58.360
And disabled individuals in the state. Julian, welcome to show.

1108
00:58:58.400 --> 00:58:59.159
Good to have you with us.

1109
00:58:59.559 --> 00:59:01.559
Hill, how are you? Thank you proud me for sure.

1110
00:59:01.599 --> 00:59:04.679
I'm doing terrific great to have you here because you know,

1111
00:59:04.920 --> 00:59:07.679
what's you know, because of Doge and and of course

1112
00:59:07.719 --> 00:59:11.480
even before Doge, I would say, the majority of America says,

1113
00:59:11.480 --> 00:59:13.559
look at there's got to be all kinds of fraud

1114
00:59:13.599 --> 00:59:14.480
and corruption.

1115
00:59:14.280 --> 00:59:16.599
In them there hills and uh.

1116
00:59:16.679 --> 00:59:20.559
And you are drilling down as it relates to medicaid

1117
00:59:20.960 --> 00:59:23.679
and medicaid fraud that's been operating in New York State,

1118
00:59:23.960 --> 00:59:28.079
which I think that what you're onto is you're you're

1119
00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:34.760
focusing on a so to speak, an avalanche of corruption

1120
00:59:35.519 --> 00:59:39.800
that probably, uh, you could extend into other areas in

1121
00:59:39.840 --> 00:59:43.159
other states. I just just just based on what you've

1122
00:59:43.159 --> 00:59:44.960
been sharing with me, is that fair?

1123
00:59:46.079 --> 00:59:48.440
You're absolutely one hundred percent cracks. You know, I'm hoping

1124
00:59:48.480 --> 00:59:52.000
to shed light on the real corruption, uh that's going on,

1125
00:59:52.480 --> 00:59:54.679
you know, not only in New York but across the country,

1126
00:59:54.760 --> 00:59:55.639
state by state.

1127
00:59:55.840 --> 00:59:59.719
Right exactly. Well, tell us your story, go ahead, sangl.

1128
01:00:00.119 --> 01:00:03.119
You know, my story starts out as any typical provided story.

1129
01:00:03.159 --> 01:00:06.119
Does you know, I got into home care, want the

1130
01:00:06.440 --> 01:00:08.760
you know, really helped the community give back, joined the

1131
01:00:08.800 --> 01:00:12.719
Great Organization and it's been around for thirty two years, uh,

1132
01:00:13.039 --> 01:00:15.800
you know, and continue putting into good work in the community.

1133
01:00:16.079 --> 01:00:20.000
I grew within that organization, you know, grew with the community,

1134
01:00:20.679 --> 01:00:25.760
joined boards that you know specialized and groups that specialized

1135
01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:28.719
in home and community based care. Uh, and sort of

1136
01:00:28.800 --> 01:00:31.840
you know, started dipping my toes into the advocacy water

1137
01:00:32.039 --> 01:00:34.480
and everything like that, and going up to Albning and

1138
01:00:34.519 --> 01:00:37.760
knowing the legislature and everything everything that you should be

1139
01:00:37.800 --> 01:00:40.679
do to better the industry in which you work in. Right.

1140
01:00:41.880 --> 01:00:44.559
And one of the programs in which we work in

1141
01:00:45.519 --> 01:00:50.960
was called Consumer Direct did Care. It's it's care where

1142
01:00:51.199 --> 01:00:54.079
you know, certain individuals, if they meet the criteria, are

1143
01:00:54.119 --> 01:00:57.400
able to hire their own worker. Right. That's not meaning that,

1144
01:00:57.800 --> 01:01:01.039
you know, there's no oversight like that. That's where my

1145
01:01:01.119 --> 01:01:03.760
agency would come in to provide the oversight to ensure

1146
01:01:03.840 --> 01:01:07.840
proper billing, timekeeping, et cetera. But the person would be

1147
01:01:07.840 --> 01:01:11.599
able to hire you know, a friend, a family, a neighbor,

1148
01:01:11.639 --> 01:01:14.159
somebody to come in to help them with their tasks

1149
01:01:14.159 --> 01:01:17.000
of daily living. Right. Right. So it was a very

1150
01:01:17.519 --> 01:01:21.719
well thought out program, you know, it was very well

1151
01:01:21.840 --> 01:01:25.440
suited as a supplemental program to other benefits and programs

1152
01:01:25.440 --> 01:01:28.239
in which I provided because I wanted to compass all

1153
01:01:28.239 --> 01:01:31.880
home and community based services just so that I could

1154
01:01:31.880 --> 01:01:35.960
offer full continuity of care. And that's what led us into,

1155
01:01:36.360 --> 01:01:40.239
you know, this issue that I'm facing right now. For years,

1156
01:01:40.920 --> 01:01:43.360
and for five straight years for me at least, we've

1157
01:01:43.400 --> 01:01:45.920
been going up to Albany. When I say we, my

1158
01:01:46.039 --> 01:01:49.960
advocacy boards and different associations have been going to Albany

1159
01:01:50.400 --> 01:01:55.079
and really advocating for you know, putting guardrails on this

1160
01:01:55.199 --> 01:01:59.199
program and to ensure that it doesn't grow out of

1161
01:02:00.039 --> 01:02:05.360
control and that there's proper oversight and licensure. And you know,

1162
01:02:05.440 --> 01:02:08.280
we really wanted to ensure the program save to the

1163
01:02:08.360 --> 01:02:09.400
roots in which it was.

1164
01:02:09.400 --> 01:02:11.480
Founded, right, so it could be sustainable.

1165
01:02:11.719 --> 01:02:14.000
I mean, you've got to get program protected so that

1166
01:02:14.079 --> 01:02:17.599
it keeps on going, right, because like anything that the

1167
01:02:17.639 --> 01:02:21.400
government is associated with, it's always subject to a corruption

1168
01:02:21.519 --> 01:02:22.199
and fraud.

1169
01:02:23.920 --> 01:02:26.280
Hundred percent, right. And what's the best way to learn

1170
01:02:26.320 --> 01:02:29.159
about that fraud is you work with the good standing

1171
01:02:29.199 --> 01:02:32.519
providers in the community providing those services, because they can

1172
01:02:32.559 --> 01:02:36.719
point out those areas of fraud that may need more oversight.

1173
01:02:37.079 --> 01:02:40.280
Because it's very simple. Right when you speak to a

1174
01:02:40.360 --> 01:02:43.360
legislature and they want to put it on pen to paper.

1175
01:02:44.039 --> 01:02:46.719
But there's so many what ifs in the world that is,

1176
01:02:46.760 --> 01:02:49.239
sometimes you don't catch those on pen to paper. What

1177
01:02:49.280 --> 01:02:52.320
do you write legislation? Right, you need to really work

1178
01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:55.320
with the community providers in order to stay in front

1179
01:02:55.360 --> 01:02:59.119
of everything that could potentially be coming down. The New

1180
01:02:59.199 --> 01:03:02.440
York State legislature in Governor's office completely ignored us for

1181
01:03:02.519 --> 01:03:06.440
five years, completely ignored us. From now looking back, I

1182
01:03:06.480 --> 01:03:10.280
see why they ignored us. They had ulterior motives. They

1183
01:03:10.440 --> 01:03:14.440
let this program balloon out of control to twelve billion

1184
01:03:14.519 --> 01:03:19.719
dollars per year spends and that's state and federal medicaid dollars.

1185
01:03:19.960 --> 01:03:23.719
It's a federal match. Right. And then once they you know,

1186
01:03:23.800 --> 01:03:26.679
grew this program into what I could only see them

1187
01:03:26.800 --> 01:03:29.840
is reviewing looking at it as an asset. Right, it's

1188
01:03:29.840 --> 01:03:32.840
no more lives or anything like that. You know, they

1189
01:03:32.880 --> 01:03:36.840
only talk about it in a in a numerical way anyway, right.

1190
01:03:37.280 --> 01:03:39.039
They sold it off to the highest bin or through

1191
01:03:39.039 --> 01:03:43.480
a back door, you know, no bid contract, in essence,

1192
01:03:43.639 --> 01:03:46.559
creating a state sanctioned monopoly on a twelve billion dollars

1193
01:03:46.559 --> 01:03:53.400
a year program. Yeah, ignored ruled about transition data hipA

1194
01:03:53.880 --> 01:03:56.239
you know, I can go on and on. They didn't

1195
01:03:56.280 --> 01:03:58.880
listen to the consumers that were in the program about

1196
01:03:58.920 --> 01:04:02.719
what they wanted. They totally eliminated consumer choice, which is,

1197
01:04:02.800 --> 01:04:05.480
you know, a federal mandate and everyone should have a

1198
01:04:05.559 --> 01:04:08.320
choice from where they get their health care from. And

1199
01:04:08.559 --> 01:04:10.320
New York State said, no, you have to get it

1200
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from these people, and that's it. That's your only option.

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And they did all this through a stroke of a pen.

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They did this through budget amendments. All right. They came

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out and said we're going to have a state fiscal intermediary.

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And then fast forward to New York State Senate testimony

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in which I provided that was put together to review

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the cd PAP transition. The senators who put that hearing

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in the budget in the budget draft budget testimony before

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they had to switch it to a request for proposal

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because you can't lift an individual in a budget. You

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have to follow state procedure right there.

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Yeah yeah, by the way, Yeah.

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They're getting so blatant that they were just going to

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write them into budget.

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How arrogant. I mean, it's unbelievable. So let me let

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me ask you this, Uh Okay, so here they do this.

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You know, your twelve billion dollars, you've built up this organism.

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Now it's controlled by the governor and h and they

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go through kind of a show and you know, act

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like they're you know, after they get caught, they kind

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of okay, back off a little bit. But then my

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question is who benefited from this besides uh, this private partnership.

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So it's clear that people within government have benefited from this.

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It has to be. It's a twelve billion dollar a

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year program that was single handedly written specifically for this

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provider that want. There's so you have to look at lobbying.

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You have to look at you know, uh, you know,

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any political connections and interests, any and and it's not

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something that even could be right now you could look

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you might have to look five years down the road

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that they oh wow, she was working at Department of

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Health and now she's a board member over here getting

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a salary for what.

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Yeah, right exactly who knows what?

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What donations the packs super packs. Yeah, it's it's unfortunate

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that we need to get a forensic accountant to come

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in and look at all this stuff. But it's gonna

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be after the fact. Right, Well, but you know, you

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know the big under our nose.

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Yeah, you know, the big is flying around here, Okay,

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and exactly how it progresses from the system, and that's

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you know, even some of that, A lot of it,

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I got to think.

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And you're you're better. You've been there on the ground,

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have seen it.

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Uh, And I see the lobbyists is kind of a

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front organization for it, right.

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The lobbyist is definitely the front organization, But then there's

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also the not so silent, uh front organization, which are

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are joint employers with a fiscal intermediary, right, It's very hard.

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you're saying, okay, I got everyone right here. These are

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one on one spread across the state, right, So it's

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very hard to get any kind of messaging across. How

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do you unionize those people? Then, especially when there's multiple providers, Well,

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there's only one provider. Now it's going to be very

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simple to unionize those works exactly.

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Hey, we're back with you just about nineteen minutes after

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the top of the r I'm Bill Martinez's Julian Hagman.

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He's been working in home healthcare in New York State

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for over ten years with Caring Professionals. He's the chief

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operating officer and they provide home health care for elderly

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and disabled individuals. So go a hunt. I mean, you

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got me on the edge of my chair here. I mean,

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this is like nothing new. I mean, look at a

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majority of Americans realize that taxpayers getting built. I mean

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there's grifting NonStop, there's corruption, fraud, Doze.

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You know, started to expose it.

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And you know that what they were exposing was problematic

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when when they all got together and all but tard

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and feathered Elon Musk to get him out of there.

1365
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Right, absolutely, everybody has you know, connection into something. You

1366
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know in New York especially, you know what percentage is fraud?

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Right?

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And we have a very very very big budget, you know,

1369
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and the hundreds of billions, So how much of that

1370
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is fraud? Is it ten percent? So you're saying twenty

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billions fraud? And what what what? What? What number? Right?

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And so yeah, it's above it's you know, not nothing.

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We can all agree on that, and probably it's probably

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more than five and it's probably more than ten.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, So that's just.

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Campable, right exactly.

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And because they're doing everything they can to avoid accountability.

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I mean, open the books.

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You know, for years has been working with the states

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and they've got i think just about all the states

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now they're a register, their check register online so you

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can look. But you know, again they're so crafty and

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they know how to hide this stuff, right, I mean,

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they're not going to come up and be upfront about it.

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They know they got a scam going. And until we

1387
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get the light of day on these on these fraudulent practices,

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you know they're going to continue to you know, continue

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on with their programs with impunity.

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Right absolutely. And you know that any time that anyone

1391
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brings up fraud, right, we'll see states and New York

1392
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is doing it right now, right, they'll highlight you know,

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the fraud, waste abuse of that has been found and prosecuted.

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Right so right now they're saying, oh, we found three

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hundred and thirty million dollars of fraud over a ten

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year period. Look at us we're so good. Right, Well, meanwhile,

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it's a twelve billion dollars a year program. So even

1398
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if you just look at the three hundred million and

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one year not a ten year time frame, I mean

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you're talking about a slipp of a percessions.

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I mean, come on, now, percent if you're lucky to

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get that, which is the same scam that Governor Watson

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Minnesota played.

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Right, Well, no, hey.

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Look at we've been looking into this and we've already

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you know, convicted X amount of people and all this,

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like they're really on top of the job. But meanwhile,

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you know, we're talking so far nine billion in counting

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of fraud just in one in one sector of services

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offered there in Minnesota.

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Right, absolutely, I mean it's the same exact thing going on. Right,

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You're dangling the attractive you know, clickbait here, and with

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your other hand you're reaching around and grabbing all the

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money you can from their wallet. That's that's the only

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thing going on here. And it's you know, it's not

1416
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it's not right, and they're they're able to hide it

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through legislation and through contracts, and you know that needs

1418
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to be highlighted. It's not the end provider, right, Obviously,

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they need to be caught, they need to be prosecuted.

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We don't want to have people stealing funds, especially the

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providers of it. But I'm telling you the larger portion

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of the fraud is coming in these contracts and these

1423
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you know, back door deal and you know, public interests,

1424
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you know, whatever it may be.

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This is deep in pervasive.

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I mean, are we talking because in other studies this

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seems to be a contagion that's found mostly in blue states.

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Are you finding that to be the case, Julian in

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your investigation and understanding of what's going on. I know

1430
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often we hear, well, it happens, you know, on both

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sides and all that. But this, you know, when you

1432
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start looking at these cities. I mean we're talking New York,

1433
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We're talking Minnesota, Los A, I mean California, they're finding

1434
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billions upon I mean, the state's bankrupt for ans and purposes,

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and there's so much fraud and so much leakage of

1436
01:16:38.840 --> 01:16:42.520
public funds out of the state of California. And those

1437
01:16:42.560 --> 01:16:45.560
are three blue, blue states just right off the top

1438
01:16:45.920 --> 01:16:49.920
top of the bat And I'm you know, again, what

1439
01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:52.640
I'm hearing over and over again, it seems to be

1440
01:16:52.800 --> 01:16:57.680
in these democratic, especially uniparty controlled states because they can

1441
01:16:57.720 --> 01:17:00.199
get away with this stuff because there's no accountability. There's

1442
01:17:00.199 --> 01:17:01.960
nobody telling them, Hey, you can't do that.

1443
01:17:02.079 --> 01:17:03.279
You know you can't.

1444
01:17:03.319 --> 01:17:05.800
You can't just assign something. There needs to be an

1445
01:17:05.880 --> 01:17:07.880
RFP out there, requests for a proposal.

1446
01:17:08.199 --> 01:17:09.840
You know, this is the way you do things.

1447
01:17:09.840 --> 01:17:13.199
But hey, when when you're you're you know, you're self

1448
01:17:13.319 --> 01:17:15.399
ruled and you got a UNI party, Hey, you get

1449
01:17:15.399 --> 01:17:17.439
to make the rules and do as you darn well please.

1450
01:17:17.560 --> 01:17:17.720
Right.

1451
01:17:18.560 --> 01:17:22.920
Absolutely, Unfortunately, I think the the what you know, New

1452
01:17:23.000 --> 01:17:25.760
York and California show right, because I mean they had to.

1453
01:17:26.319 --> 01:17:30.000
In my mind that it's happening nationwide. Doesn't matter, blew,

1454
01:17:30.039 --> 01:17:33.239
a red state doesn't matter the New York to California.

1455
01:17:33.319 --> 01:17:36.399
Our social services packages and benefits are just so big.

1456
01:17:36.560 --> 01:17:40.039
The money is just so uh, you know, abundant, and

1457
01:17:41.199 --> 01:17:44.600
you know, how do you but even take a red state, right,

1458
01:17:45.239 --> 01:17:49.880
they're still democratic legislatus or Republican legislature, right, and they

1459
01:17:49.880 --> 01:17:52.960
can still hide things through bills because there I don't

1460
01:17:53.000 --> 01:17:55.840
know if anyone's ever read a budget, you go blinds

1461
01:17:55.960 --> 01:17:58.520
after an hour, and that you sort of just keep

1462
01:17:58.600 --> 01:18:01.199
skimming over things and so that that's where stuff gets hidden.

1463
01:18:01.520 --> 01:18:03.560
Right, Well, that was like trying to that was trying

1464
01:18:03.560 --> 01:18:07.000
to remember Obamacare. When Obamacare came out, I don't know.

1465
01:18:08.159 --> 01:18:11.119
I can't even name a dozen people that got past

1466
01:18:11.199 --> 01:18:13.479
the fifth page because.

1467
01:18:13.279 --> 01:18:15.840
You would go blind and it didn't make sense.

1468
01:18:15.920 --> 01:18:18.399
And then of course the guy who wrote up the bill,

1469
01:18:19.279 --> 01:18:22.359
he was in his hearing and his congressional hearing said

1470
01:18:22.560 --> 01:18:26.279
they purposely made it complex and confusing. I mean there's

1471
01:18:26.279 --> 01:18:30.439
a government official telling the American people that they got

1472
01:18:30.439 --> 01:18:33.439
fleeced and it was done on purpose, by design. And

1473
01:18:33.520 --> 01:18:36.439
still Obamacare is still around, So you know, all this

1474
01:18:36.520 --> 01:18:42.560
stuff is really just it's aggravating the everyday taxpayer, Julian.

1475
01:18:43.800 --> 01:18:48.479
It aggravates everybody and aggravates me, just as I wish

1476
01:18:48.520 --> 01:18:51.920
I wasn't so involved now and really seeing how the

1477
01:18:52.239 --> 01:18:54.920
sausage is being made sort of thing, I would like

1478
01:18:54.960 --> 01:18:58.039
to go back and be oblivious, you know, regular citizen.

1479
01:19:00.159 --> 01:19:00.239
Right.

1480
01:19:00.279 --> 01:19:02.680
But the deal is is that you want everybody to

1481
01:19:02.720 --> 01:19:04.880
have a fair chance to win, and how can you

1482
01:19:05.279 --> 01:19:09.479
when when the game is rigged? I mean, these politicians

1483
01:19:09.479 --> 01:19:12.439
basically they've rigged the game. And so if you have

1484
01:19:12.560 --> 01:19:14.640
somebody else who can come in and provide a better

1485
01:19:14.720 --> 01:19:18.119
service for less. Guess what, you know, they're not they're

1486
01:19:18.119 --> 01:19:21.520
not involved in the payoffs and the back door money

1487
01:19:21.560 --> 01:19:24.520
shuffling and that sort of thing. So you know, they

1488
01:19:24.640 --> 01:19:26.720
might get a meeting, but that's about as you know,

1489
01:19:26.760 --> 01:19:27.960
that's about the best they'll get.

1490
01:19:28.720 --> 01:19:32.600
Yeah, absolutely, I mean listen, but just as you said,

1491
01:19:33.039 --> 01:19:36.680
you know, the States really are the conductor of the

1492
01:19:36.720 --> 01:19:39.479
train and can bring it anywhere they want to go. Right.

1493
01:19:39.880 --> 01:19:40.279
Uh.

1494
01:19:40.359 --> 01:19:43.520
We the RFP we had in New York, it was

1495
01:19:43.600 --> 01:19:48.479
it was reviewed by the Medicaid director and he met

1496
01:19:48.560 --> 01:19:51.399
with three or four requests that we got maybe a

1497
01:19:51.439 --> 01:19:55.079
month ago. Now, he actually met with the governor's executive

1498
01:19:55.079 --> 01:19:58.119
staff and the company that won the bid prior to

1499
01:19:58.159 --> 01:20:02.239
the budget being inactive. Right, the other two offerers that

1500
01:20:02.279 --> 01:20:06.159
were a qualified offerer, I spoke with both of those providers.

1501
01:20:06.399 --> 01:20:09.720
They were not allowed awarded the same benefit to meet

1502
01:20:09.760 --> 01:20:15.039
with the Medicaid director who graded the RFPs. Mind you, yes,

1503
01:20:15.640 --> 01:20:19.399
prior to the RFP coming out, right, And so yeah,

1504
01:20:19.760 --> 01:20:24.319
the nothing in New York, uh passes the sniff test.

1505
01:20:25.079 --> 01:20:28.119
Everything stinks to high heaven. The more and more you

1506
01:20:28.159 --> 01:20:30.960
look into it, the more and more you find, and

1507
01:20:31.000 --> 01:20:33.479
the more and more you find this is happening across

1508
01:20:33.520 --> 01:20:38.560
the nation in every state. Uh, through these social services programs.

1509
01:20:39.000 --> 01:20:42.640
Yeah, it's systemic, no doubt. Has Hochel addressed this issue

1510
01:20:42.640 --> 01:20:42.920
at all.

1511
01:20:43.680 --> 01:20:46.079
She has? She has. She said, you know, she did

1512
01:20:46.119 --> 01:20:50.720
the best thing. She prevented the program from a fithical crisis. Uh,

1513
01:20:50.800 --> 01:20:52.840
you know, in order to she said, she saved one

1514
01:20:52.840 --> 01:20:56.279
point two billion dollars, which no one seems to understand

1515
01:20:56.359 --> 01:20:59.520
here because right now we have the health plans, uh,

1516
01:20:59.560 --> 01:21:03.600
you know, the United the Anthems, the Molina all who

1517
01:21:03.680 --> 01:21:06.279
are the you know middleman in New York State for

1518
01:21:06.359 --> 01:21:10.039
these programs to you know, handle the payments. They're potentially

1519
01:21:10.119 --> 01:21:13.039
flying a lawsuit against the company that was awarded the contract,

1520
01:21:13.079 --> 01:21:17.640
Public Partnerships LLC for anti trust's concerns because now they

1521
01:21:17.640 --> 01:21:21.000
are the state sanctioned monopoly and they're demanding increased payment

1522
01:21:21.199 --> 01:21:24.600
and the programs actually that have cost more money. And

1523
01:21:24.680 --> 01:21:27.600
so now the insurers, right, because they get a capitated

1524
01:21:27.600 --> 01:21:30.920
amount from the state, they're saying, hey, you can't demand

1525
01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:34.880
an increase, you know, that's not right, right, and so

1526
01:21:35.000 --> 01:21:35.920
they're filing suit.

1527
01:21:36.359 --> 01:21:37.680
I mean, think about it.

1528
01:21:38.119 --> 01:21:43.800
State sanctioned monopoly and Governor Hochel is okay with it,

1529
01:21:44.119 --> 01:21:47.159
and she's with slight of hand offering. You know, Oh,

1530
01:21:47.239 --> 01:21:49.520
I say, I've saved this over a billion dollars, but

1531
01:21:49.840 --> 01:21:54.560
you can't even quantify or qualify that savings, right right, right, Well,

1532
01:21:55.119 --> 01:21:57.359
we got to wrap things up here, Julian Hagman, what's

1533
01:21:57.399 --> 01:21:58.039
the next step?

1534
01:21:59.439 --> 01:22:01.600
The next step? So I you know, there's a lot

1535
01:22:01.600 --> 01:22:04.760
of potential, a lot of things on on the horizon.

1536
01:22:05.000 --> 01:22:08.079
Department of Justice has been actively investigating this for over

1537
01:22:08.159 --> 01:22:11.439
a year now, and I've been in contact with them.

1538
01:22:11.479 --> 01:22:13.880
I know other providers that have been in contact with them.

1539
01:22:14.359 --> 01:22:16.000
We're hopeful that they're going to be coming out with

1540
01:22:16.039 --> 01:22:19.640
something soon, right it. Department of Justice typically takes eighteen months,

1541
01:22:19.640 --> 01:22:22.680
but they've been pretty proactive on this item and so

1542
01:22:22.760 --> 01:22:25.600
hopefully it'll come out sooner than later. I actually have

1543
01:22:25.800 --> 01:22:29.399
a lawsuit against the company that won the bid PPL.

1544
01:22:31.039 --> 01:22:34.359
I'm going into court on April twenty firth where the

1545
01:22:34.399 --> 01:22:36.960
judge is going to be deciding discovery from my case

1546
01:22:37.000 --> 01:22:39.439
so I can hopefully get the you know, the information

1547
01:22:39.560 --> 01:22:41.279
I need to bring to light to show the public

1548
01:22:41.319 --> 01:22:43.119
that there was fraud in New York State on this

1549
01:22:43.239 --> 01:22:46.439
twelve billion dollar a year contract. And then we also

1550
01:22:46.520 --> 01:22:49.279
have a slew of foil requests that have been sitting

1551
01:22:49.359 --> 01:22:52.119
there waiting that the DOH have been and state have

1552
01:22:52.199 --> 01:22:54.359
been delaying and delaying and delaying. But you can only

1553
01:22:54.399 --> 01:22:57.039
delay those so much. And you know that we have

1554
01:22:57.119 --> 01:22:59.800
watchdogs in New York State which are threatening lawsuit on

1555
01:22:59.840 --> 01:23:03.000
the boys and everything like that. So we're pushing down

1556
01:23:03.039 --> 01:23:05.000
that angle and really waiting for them to see what

1557
01:23:05.039 --> 01:23:10.439
happens there. And so those three items, yeah, that's it's

1558
01:23:10.439 --> 01:23:12.720
a waiting game, but it's it's not going to be

1559
01:23:12.760 --> 01:23:16.079
for much longer. We've been on this for a while

1560
01:23:17.000 --> 01:23:18.920
and no one's given up, and we're going to get

1561
01:23:18.960 --> 01:23:20.000
the answers to the people.

1562
01:23:20.399 --> 01:23:22.760
Well, this seems like a pandemic in and of itself,

1563
01:23:22.840 --> 01:23:25.279
and we're we're just touching the tip of the iceberg,

1564
01:23:25.279 --> 01:23:29.920
I would think. Julian Hagman, he is the COO Chief

1565
01:23:29.960 --> 01:23:33.760
Operating Officer for Carrying Professionals Home Healthcare, offering home health

1566
01:23:33.760 --> 01:23:37.359
care for elderly and disabled individuals, stay in touch, Julian.

1567
01:23:37.439 --> 01:23:39.359
I want to follow up on this and keep our

1568
01:23:39.399 --> 01:23:41.680
audience surprised at what's going on because, like I said,

1569
01:23:41.920 --> 01:23:43.520
I think this is just a tip of the iceberg,

1570
01:23:43.680 --> 01:23:45.640
and this is going to find I think we'll find

1571
01:23:45.640 --> 01:23:49.319
this is representative of a model that's being utilized by

1572
01:23:49.359 --> 01:23:52.359
these characters because, like you said, the government's putting out

1573
01:23:52.359 --> 01:23:55.439
a lot of money there, and hey, it's right for

1574
01:23:55.479 --> 01:23:58.720
the pickens. And you know, because you got these politicians,

1575
01:23:58.960 --> 01:24:01.000
their wallets are open up and as long as they're

1576
01:24:01.039 --> 01:24:04.000
getting their big they're going to run interference for these programs.

1577
01:24:04.920 --> 01:24:06.760
Absolutely, one hundred percent. You said it right.

1578
01:24:07.039 --> 01:24:08.800
You got it all right, Julian, take care, have a

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go with Thank you.

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Hey, good morning, welcome back. Good to have you with us.

1628
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Bill Martinez here and we've got Amber Canneban. She's the

1629
01:26:48.800 --> 01:26:52.239
manager of campaigns for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals.

1630
01:26:52.439 --> 01:26:54.079
Amber, Good morning, Happy New Year to you.

1631
01:26:55.079 --> 01:26:57.000
Hi, good morning, thank you for having me.

1632
01:26:57.600 --> 01:26:59.720
Great to have you here. We're going to talk vegan cheese.

1633
01:26:59.800 --> 01:26:59.960
Mark.

1634
01:27:00.479 --> 01:27:03.399
I mean, look at you're the first one this year.

1635
01:27:03.439 --> 01:27:05.279
I want you to know this. You're breaking ground here

1636
01:27:06.119 --> 01:27:10.079
because we haven't been talking vegan cheese, so welcome to

1637
01:27:10.119 --> 01:27:10.720
talk about this.

1638
01:27:11.159 --> 01:27:11.880
This is amazing.

1639
01:27:12.359 --> 01:27:16.680
I was just you know, amazed by the numbers. Three

1640
01:27:16.680 --> 01:27:20.640
and a half billion dollars already is what the vegan

1641
01:27:20.760 --> 01:27:23.800
cheese market is all about. Expected to reach almost ten

1642
01:27:23.840 --> 01:27:27.199
billion by twenty thirty three. Never before have there been

1643
01:27:27.239 --> 01:27:30.760
so many creamy, melty, mouthwatering vegan cheeses available, as you say,

1644
01:27:31.239 --> 01:27:35.159
as more shoppers than ever ditch dairy cheese because they're

1645
01:27:35.199 --> 01:27:40.479
either lactose intolerant or they're concerned about animal agriculture's impact

1646
01:27:40.560 --> 01:27:41.279
on the environment.

1647
01:27:41.359 --> 01:27:41.560
Right.

1648
01:27:43.039 --> 01:27:47.079
Absolutely, Yeah, we are just seeing so much innovation and

1649
01:27:47.239 --> 01:27:52.000
creativity to you know, move away from the cow's milk

1650
01:27:52.119 --> 01:27:55.840
or in some cases, goat's milk based cheeses over to

1651
01:27:55.920 --> 01:28:00.399
those vegan versions and they're just as creamy and taste

1652
01:28:00.640 --> 01:28:04.279
and versatile. You're just doing that simple swap, and it

1653
01:28:04.319 --> 01:28:08.760
can have a huge impact on your you know, water footprint,

1654
01:28:08.880 --> 01:28:14.960
your carbon footprint, your health. Since vegan foods are cholesterol free,

1655
01:28:15.520 --> 01:28:17.680
they have a lot of fiber in them, which cow's

1656
01:28:17.680 --> 01:28:21.439
milk has none of, and you're you know, you're doing

1657
01:28:21.479 --> 01:28:24.000
something good for the animals who don't want to be

1658
01:28:24.159 --> 01:28:28.279
on farms, dairy farms, getting their babies taken away just

1659
01:28:28.319 --> 01:28:31.479
so we can drink the milk instead, right, And I think.

1660
01:28:31.279 --> 01:28:34.640
That sometimes people don't realize the effect that has on

1661
01:28:34.680 --> 01:28:36.720
the on the mother cows when they're as you say,

1662
01:28:36.720 --> 01:28:39.079
their babies are taken away, and they you know, seem well,

1663
01:28:39.079 --> 01:28:41.359
they're just animals, you know, they really, but if you

1664
01:28:41.439 --> 01:28:44.399
really have any kind of connection and you see what's

1665
01:28:44.439 --> 01:28:47.920
going on, the mothers are reacting when they're you know,

1666
01:28:47.960 --> 01:28:49.479
when the baby cows are taken away.

1667
01:28:49.560 --> 01:28:49.800
Right.

1668
01:28:51.239 --> 01:28:55.239
Yeah, we have heartbreaking video on our website. We've done

1669
01:28:55.279 --> 01:28:59.800
investigations into the dairy industry and this is a little

1670
01:29:00.039 --> 01:29:05.640
own common industry practice. So cows don't just give milk

1671
01:29:06.800 --> 01:29:10.680
because they're cows. They give milk because they're mothers. So

1672
01:29:10.720 --> 01:29:16.159
the dairy industry forcefully impregnates them year after year. That

1673
01:29:16.319 --> 01:29:20.520
baby is then taken away, and we've heard mother cows

1674
01:29:20.600 --> 01:29:24.560
crying for days after their babies have been dragged away

1675
01:29:24.600 --> 01:29:27.800
from them, and then that milk is taken from them

1676
01:29:27.920 --> 01:29:31.720
and sold, you know, for market instead of going to

1677
01:29:31.800 --> 01:29:37.000
their babies. So every glass of milk. Every grilled cheese

1678
01:29:37.000 --> 01:29:40.359
sandwich with a dairy based cheese on it, you know

1679
01:29:40.479 --> 01:29:43.560
that is a product of a from a grieving mother

1680
01:29:43.880 --> 01:29:46.960
who had her baby taken away. And it's all just

1681
01:29:47.000 --> 01:29:48.000
so unnecessary.

1682
01:29:48.520 --> 01:29:52.840
Yeah, you know, Amber, with the focus on food and

1683
01:29:53.119 --> 01:29:57.119
ingredients these days, you know, the current administration has been

1684
01:29:57.159 --> 01:30:01.800
bringing to light and people are looking at, you know,

1685
01:30:02.079 --> 01:30:06.960
ingredients of foods a lot more closely because the consistent

1686
01:30:07.039 --> 01:30:09.399
thing that I've been I've been hearing this for years

1687
01:30:09.640 --> 01:30:12.800
because I've been in and around the health industry as well,

1688
01:30:13.319 --> 01:30:16.159
and the question was always, you know, why cancer, Why

1689
01:30:16.199 --> 01:30:20.000
all these diseases? What's exacerbating all this stuff? And as

1690
01:30:20.039 --> 01:30:23.000
we're seeing and as you're reporting here, you know, some

1691
01:30:23.159 --> 01:30:28.319
cheeses contain the very same bacteria found between human toes.

1692
01:30:29.000 --> 01:30:32.319
I mean, think about how disgusting. But maybe that's why

1693
01:30:32.359 --> 01:30:34.279
sometimes that cheese smells that way too.

1694
01:30:36.079 --> 01:30:40.680
Yeah, you get that distinct stinky feet smell with some cheeses,

1695
01:30:40.840 --> 01:30:45.119
and that's a bacteria called Breavin bacteria. It gives it

1696
01:30:45.199 --> 01:30:49.600
that stinky foot smell. But yeah, I mean, the cow's

1697
01:30:49.840 --> 01:30:55.840
milk is loaded with cholesterol. Cow's milk can have added

1698
01:30:55.880 --> 01:31:00.000
hormones but even if you're buying the like labeled hormone freeze,

1699
01:31:00.119 --> 01:31:04.359
of that cow's body is still coursing with hormones from

1700
01:31:04.399 --> 01:31:08.479
being kept constantly pregnant and nursing, so you're getting you know,

1701
01:31:08.560 --> 01:31:15.359
animal hormones in that cow's milk. Cow'smoke is also completely

1702
01:31:15.920 --> 01:31:20.279
devoid of fiber. Ninety to ninety seven percent of Americans

1703
01:31:20.359 --> 01:31:25.319
are deficient in fiber. So that can lead to very

1704
01:31:25.359 --> 01:31:29.479
serious health problems. You know, the important we're learning about

1705
01:31:29.520 --> 01:31:34.199
the importance of your gut health. Colon cancer is also

1706
01:31:34.520 --> 01:31:38.800
on the rise, and it's a very serious problem. So

1707
01:31:39.159 --> 01:31:44.720
doing some simple dietary swaps, choosing that those vegan options

1708
01:31:44.760 --> 01:31:47.000
that are going to have the fiber in them can

1709
01:31:47.039 --> 01:31:48.279
only do you some good there.

1710
01:31:48.720 --> 01:31:53.159
Yeah, this continues to grow for obvious reasons. Right, it's working.

1711
01:31:55.319 --> 01:31:58.399
Well part of it. You know, Vegan cheese is delicious,

1712
01:31:58.479 --> 01:32:03.960
it's creamy, it's stretchy, you know all the reasons. You know,

1713
01:32:04.039 --> 01:32:06.520
there's no reason to just when you're in the grocery store,

1714
01:32:06.840 --> 01:32:09.479
you just look left or right on the shelves and

1715
01:32:09.520 --> 01:32:12.399
you're probably gonna start recognizing some of those vegan brands

1716
01:32:12.399 --> 01:32:15.399
that were there that maybe you didn't notice before. So

1717
01:32:15.399 --> 01:32:18.159
you've got a whole guide to that at peda dot

1718
01:32:18.279 --> 01:32:23.000
org slash Cheeses, so you can check that out, hear

1719
01:32:23.079 --> 01:32:25.279
about learn about some of the brands. Maybe you weren't

1720
01:32:25.399 --> 01:32:28.239
familiar with before. Maybe you didn't even realize they were

1721
01:32:28.319 --> 01:32:30.399
vegan right on the shelf because you just look at

1722
01:32:30.439 --> 01:32:35.359
a package of cheese slices cheddar it's SOI or oat

1723
01:32:35.399 --> 01:32:37.680
milk based and instead of cow's milk based.

1724
01:32:37.880 --> 01:32:38.600
Right exactly.

1725
01:32:38.880 --> 01:32:40.840
We're talking with the manager of campaigns for People for

1726
01:32:40.880 --> 01:32:44.039
the Ethical Treatment of Animals, Pita Amber canevan is with

1727
01:32:44.199 --> 01:32:47.199
us Amber the other thing, the other I guess chemical

1728
01:32:47.479 --> 01:32:48.800
that's involved, which is interesting.

1729
01:32:48.920 --> 01:32:50.359
You know, it's kind of like potato chips. You know,

1730
01:32:50.399 --> 01:32:51.279
you just can't have one.

1731
01:32:51.600 --> 01:32:54.359
It just kind of triggers a chemical reaction in your

1732
01:32:54.359 --> 01:32:56.239
brain that says, hey, there's more. You know, there's more

1733
01:32:56.279 --> 01:32:59.640
in the bag. And I didn't realize this. But cheese

1734
01:32:59.640 --> 01:33:03.439
contains a similar chemical right right.

1735
01:33:03.560 --> 01:33:03.800
Yeah.

1736
01:33:03.840 --> 01:33:07.239
You hear people say, you know, I'm addicted to cheese.

1737
01:33:07.359 --> 01:33:10.479
I just can't give it up, and they're so confused

1738
01:33:10.520 --> 01:33:15.800
by it. But there's actually a chemical in dairy cheese

1739
01:33:16.159 --> 01:33:20.640
called caso morphins. And it's a chemical that does act

1740
01:33:20.720 --> 01:33:23.399
on your brain and it makes you crave more cheese.

1741
01:33:23.520 --> 01:33:28.159
So it might not be just because while a nice snack,

1742
01:33:28.600 --> 01:33:32.399
you're actually getting a little bit of a cheese high there.

1743
01:33:32.600 --> 01:33:36.880
And people are addicted cheese. They're a little bit right

1744
01:33:36.880 --> 01:33:37.720
there when they say that.

1745
01:33:39.239 --> 01:33:43.199
And you say that going vegan or eating vegan not

1746
01:33:43.279 --> 01:33:46.279
only is easy, it's more and more available, and this

1747
01:33:46.439 --> 01:33:49.159
is why the growth of the industry continues on the

1748
01:33:49.199 --> 01:33:52.359
trajectory that it is. And you say, each person that

1749
01:33:52.399 --> 01:33:54.920
goes vegan is estimated to spare the lives of nearly

1750
01:33:55.159 --> 01:33:56.760
two hundred animals every year.

1751
01:33:56.800 --> 01:34:01.119
That's each person. That's an incredible calculus.

1752
01:34:00.640 --> 01:34:05.720
Here, right, Yeah, just those simple daily swaps can just

1753
01:34:05.800 --> 01:34:10.000
have a huge impact on animals. You know, in the

1754
01:34:10.079 --> 01:34:14.239
United States we raise and slaughter about ten billion animals

1755
01:34:14.279 --> 01:34:19.199
every year. I mean, that's just an unfathomable number of individuals.

1756
01:34:19.840 --> 01:34:23.600
And you know that's the other side of this is animals,

1757
01:34:23.800 --> 01:34:29.399
you know, including cows, are thinking and feeling individuals. They

1758
01:34:29.439 --> 01:34:32.520
feel pain, they feel joy when they're with their families,

1759
01:34:32.560 --> 01:34:35.239
they feel lost when they have their babies taken away.

1760
01:34:36.000 --> 01:34:38.840
And you know, we just want people to know who

1761
01:34:39.079 --> 01:34:42.279
animals are and we can respect them with some of

1762
01:34:42.279 --> 01:34:45.399
those simple daily choices can really have a big impact

1763
01:34:45.479 --> 01:34:46.159
for them.

1764
01:34:46.520 --> 01:34:50.239
You know, people might be surprised because if they haven't

1765
01:34:50.520 --> 01:34:53.880
been aware of Began Cheese. I mean, there's there's a

1766
01:34:53.960 --> 01:34:56.479
host of offerings here, right, I mean there's.

1767
01:34:56.359 --> 01:34:59.159
Quite the variety. Break that down for our audience.

1768
01:35:01.000 --> 01:35:04.720
Yeah, so you can get you know, some pepper Jack

1769
01:35:04.840 --> 01:35:10.399
slices for your sandwiches. There's melty vecan cheddar for your nachos,

1770
01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:16.680
grated parmesan for your pasta. Some of our favorite brands

1771
01:35:16.960 --> 01:35:23.720
are Daya, Vile Life, Tree Line, Kite Hill, There's Tofui

1772
01:35:23.840 --> 01:35:26.800
cream cheese for your bagels in the morning, or if

1773
01:35:26.960 --> 01:35:31.439
like me, you like making cheesecakes. And again, all those

1774
01:35:31.479 --> 01:35:37.119
brands and recommendations recipes are at peta dot org slash Cheeses.

1775
01:35:37.199 --> 01:35:40.560
We just have this whole one stop shop guide for

1776
01:35:40.720 --> 01:35:42.399
if your boughten to explore that.

1777
01:35:42.920 --> 01:35:43.600
Amber is this.

1778
01:35:43.840 --> 01:35:47.039
You know, you suggest that it's an easy swap, but

1779
01:35:47.119 --> 01:35:51.159
you know, obviously, being consumers in America being what it is,

1780
01:35:52.520 --> 01:35:54.359
you know, it's like, you know, try it, you'll like it,

1781
01:35:55.159 --> 01:35:57.720
but you know, and I imagine after you do this

1782
01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:01.800
and you start making those swaps, then you'll discover this

1783
01:36:01.920 --> 01:36:04.479
and realize that it's an easy swap.

1784
01:36:04.560 --> 01:36:09.319
Right, Yeah, all of these brands are pretty much like

1785
01:36:09.359 --> 01:36:11.840
a one to one swap in. So you get that

1786
01:36:12.119 --> 01:36:15.920
package of vegan American cheese slices and you're going to

1787
01:36:15.960 --> 01:36:19.600
be using it just as you would the dairy based cheese.

1788
01:36:20.199 --> 01:36:24.239
We're also seeing some exciting things happening with like chain

1789
01:36:24.359 --> 01:36:30.039
pizza restaurants, local pizza restaurants having vegan mozzarella that you

1790
01:36:30.079 --> 01:36:33.680
can just order right at the group at the restaurant

1791
01:36:33.720 --> 01:36:34.439
as well.

1792
01:36:34.239 --> 01:36:35.079
Right exactly.

1793
01:36:35.279 --> 01:36:37.760
Amber Canevan, she's a manager of campaigns for People for

1794
01:36:37.800 --> 01:36:40.720
the Ethical Treatment of Animals, where she plays a key

1795
01:36:40.880 --> 01:36:44.079
role in helping end the use of animals for food.

1796
01:36:44.600 --> 01:36:46.720
To wrap things up, Amber, where can they go for

1797
01:36:46.760 --> 01:36:47.399
more information?

1798
01:36:48.560 --> 01:36:54.720
Peda dot org slash cheeses. That's peta dot org slash cheeses.

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Speech America. Louis, good morning to you.

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How are you?

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Good morning, Thank you for having me.

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How are you Hey, great to have you here. I'm

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doing wonderful. Now we understand that the Free Speech America

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team has a new tool, MRC Digital News Tracker, right.

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That is right.

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So we at the MRC have been tracking what the

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Big four news app that's Google News, Apple News, MSN,

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and Yahoo News. We have been tracking the leftist outlets

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and leftist headlines that they have been promoted and you know,

1893
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sort of brainwashing Americans. We now have evidence of the

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things that they have been doing, you know, behind the scenes.

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Yeah, when you talk about the Big four news apps

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reach about five hundred and fifty million Americans, I mean

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it's probably more than once, because we only have about

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three hundred and fifty million. America is our universe anyway,

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so this probably in essence, it's it's bombarding the minds

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of American citizens, no doubt.

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Right, that is right.

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I mean they have an massive reach. I mean in

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the latest legacy media, it has been decreasing, but you know,

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social media has been going up. You know, smartphones, these

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news apps comprensault in every single iPhone, Apple news compre

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insall every single iPhone excuse me, Google news comspreing sold,

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and every single Google phone. So as trusten legacy media

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comes down, you know, people more more people rely on

1909
01:42:39.359 --> 01:42:41.840
this tech news for their news.

1910
01:42:42.399 --> 01:42:47.279
Right, So we've kind of gone from maybe the fires

1911
01:42:47.319 --> 01:42:50.680
of the pan in a sense, because about ninety six

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01:42:50.720 --> 01:42:53.760
percent roughly of the news coming from the mainstream media,

1913
01:42:54.319 --> 01:42:58.920
the regular networks, the predominant networks, was ninety six negative

1914
01:42:59.119 --> 01:43:02.159
when it came, you know, toward conservatives or Donald Trump.

1915
01:43:02.439 --> 01:43:05.079
So somewhere in that range, you could say, ninety ninety

1916
01:43:05.119 --> 01:43:05.760
six percent.

1917
01:43:06.039 --> 01:43:07.319
That's been fairly consistent.

1918
01:43:07.640 --> 01:43:15.359
Now online via the Internet, these social media outlets, you know,

1919
01:43:15.439 --> 01:43:18.760
they're still up there. I mean, you know, eighty six

1920
01:43:18.800 --> 01:43:22.720
percent negative coverage. This is and this is about ice

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01:43:22.800 --> 01:43:24.119
right now that we're talking about.

1922
01:43:24.920 --> 01:43:29.479
Yeah, So the Media Research Center has released survey study

1923
01:43:29.600 --> 01:43:35.159
after study showing how the leftist Bruckcad networks have issued

1924
01:43:35.479 --> 01:43:39.279
negative coverage against President Trump, Conservatives, or the Republican Party

1925
01:43:39.560 --> 01:43:44.000
consistently since President Trump was elected in twenty sixteen. Now

1926
01:43:44.000 --> 01:43:49.000
here's what we have. We know that ninety percent of

1927
01:43:49.359 --> 01:43:53.640
coverage about ice in Minnesota on the leftist networks was negative.

1928
01:43:54.000 --> 01:43:56.239
So we decided to take a look at what the

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01:43:56.399 --> 01:44:00.119
big ford used ups were, how they were covering the

1930
01:44:00.199 --> 01:44:03.840
ice operations in Minnesota. And guess what the number is.

1931
01:44:03.920 --> 01:44:06.920
Eighty six percent of the headlines that we came across

1932
01:44:06.920 --> 01:44:11.399
about Minnesota where negative or lacking key context that will

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01:44:11.399 --> 01:44:15.600
have inform Americans about number one, why ice is in Minnesota.

1934
01:44:15.640 --> 01:44:19.640
To begin with, you know, we also discover that, you know,

1935
01:44:19.920 --> 01:44:22.359
none of the headlines that we came across that we

1936
01:44:22.399 --> 01:44:25.560
analyze mention any of the crimes can made it by

1937
01:44:25.680 --> 01:44:29.319
legal aliens in this state. I mean dhas have speedily

1938
01:44:29.359 --> 01:44:33.279
said that, you know, ferminal aactivity is at the center

1939
01:44:33.359 --> 01:44:35.560
of why they are in the state. To begin with,

1940
01:44:36.000 --> 01:44:40.239
guess what none of the headlines made and mentioned of that. Now,

1941
01:44:40.279 --> 01:44:43.199
this is this is important because you know, a poll

1942
01:44:43.239 --> 01:44:45.920
recently came out from Fox News, fifty nine percent of

1943
01:44:45.960 --> 01:44:51.319
American voters think that ICE is too aggressive in their operations. Well,

1944
01:44:51.319 --> 01:44:55.000
guess what, I'm not surprised that more majority of Americans

1945
01:44:55.479 --> 01:44:59.319
believe that because they are being misinformed by this Big

1946
01:44:59.359 --> 01:45:02.560
four news that there's not you know, the headlines are

1947
01:45:02.560 --> 01:45:06.840
not mentioning the riots. They're not mentioning the violent aspect

1948
01:45:07.000 --> 01:45:11.039
of the protests happening in that state. You know, there

1949
01:45:11.079 --> 01:45:13.600
was a death of thirty seven year old anti ICE

1950
01:45:13.640 --> 01:45:16.720
activists Renee Good in Minnesota. It was a tragic death.

1951
01:45:16.800 --> 01:45:20.560
President Trump has said that repeatedly. You know, it's the

1952
01:45:20.560 --> 01:45:23.800
White House laments when people die. But there is a

1953
01:45:23.880 --> 01:45:28.079
context that happened here, and zero percent of the headlines

1954
01:45:28.279 --> 01:45:31.960
none of the headlines about Renette Good's death mentioned the

1955
01:45:32.039 --> 01:45:36.840
fact that she hit eight ICE agents Jonathan Ross before

1956
01:45:37.000 --> 01:45:40.800
he fatally shot her. Now, this is I mean, people,

1957
01:45:41.000 --> 01:45:43.199
you need to deserve to know the truth here. I

1958
01:45:43.199 --> 01:45:46.920
mean exactly, it was a tragic death. But give provide

1959
01:45:46.920 --> 01:45:49.720
people the context, you know, paint the picture of what

1960
01:45:49.840 --> 01:45:52.000
happened before she was shot.

1961
01:45:52.760 --> 01:45:53.640
Yeah. You see.

1962
01:45:53.720 --> 01:45:55.800
What this does is kind of like what Tom Hollman

1963
01:45:55.920 --> 01:45:58.479
was suggesting in his press conference this week, and that

1964
01:45:58.680 --> 01:46:01.840
is that in dangers the rest of the citizens because

1965
01:46:01.840 --> 01:46:04.319
they're not getting the full story and they think, oh,

1966
01:46:04.359 --> 01:46:07.359
this is okay, And even like the most recent shooting

1967
01:46:07.399 --> 01:46:12.520
there with a nurse, and I mean, now we're seeing

1968
01:46:12.560 --> 01:46:15.319
other video where he was there kicking out the back

1969
01:46:16.000 --> 01:46:20.600
light of one of the vehicles, spitting on ice officers.

1970
01:46:20.000 --> 01:46:24.279
And then you know, to add to the confusion and

1971
01:46:24.319 --> 01:46:27.600
make it even worse is the guy comes with a gun.

1972
01:46:27.760 --> 01:46:32.319
I get it, you have a concealed carry permit. That's okay,

1973
01:46:32.359 --> 01:46:36.640
But there's also the law that pertains to that is

1974
01:46:36.640 --> 01:46:42.399
that once you come into a law enforcement operation, your

1975
01:46:42.560 --> 01:46:44.880
concealed carry permit is null and void.

1976
01:46:45.680 --> 01:46:46.359
Did you know that.

1977
01:46:47.520 --> 01:46:49.760
I didn't know that, but I mean I'm not surprised.

1978
01:46:50.239 --> 01:46:54.079
It makes sense, right, I mean, yeah, because it's you're

1979
01:46:54.159 --> 01:46:57.600
not to go in and take your gun and be proactive,

1980
01:46:58.079 --> 01:47:00.359
even though he wasn't waving the gun. But it's all

1981
01:47:00.439 --> 01:47:04.000
suspicious because he has a gun and fifty rounds of ammunition.

1982
01:47:05.119 --> 01:47:07.359
I mean, there's a lot of information that is missing here,

1983
01:47:07.680 --> 01:47:09.880
and you know, we we should we should probably wait

1984
01:47:09.920 --> 01:47:13.479
for information from the government investigations about what actually transpiring

1985
01:47:13.520 --> 01:47:16.720
here where you were one hundred percent right. I mean, yes,

1986
01:47:16.760 --> 01:47:19.399
you're able to carry your gun to protest, but at

1987
01:47:19.399 --> 01:47:22.079
the same time, you're putting yourself in home's way by

1988
01:47:22.880 --> 01:47:26.680
you know, DHS said that they were actually enforcing a

1989
01:47:26.800 --> 01:47:31.479
target operation before mister Preddy came across ICE and sort

1990
01:47:31.479 --> 01:47:35.000
of recording and started to you know, what appears to

1991
01:47:35.000 --> 01:47:38.079
be interfere with ICE agents while they were trying to

1992
01:47:38.119 --> 01:47:40.880
make an arrest. Now we know for a fact that

1993
01:47:41.079 --> 01:47:44.760
these anti ICE groups have been training people, teaching them

1994
01:47:44.880 --> 01:47:48.640
how to I think there's tactics called I think the arrest.

1995
01:47:48.880 --> 01:47:54.640
They're trying to create chaos around arrest and the tensions

1996
01:47:54.760 --> 01:47:59.800
to allow people to skate law enforcement. And I think,

1997
01:48:00.199 --> 01:48:01.960
you know, this may be one of those cases. And

1998
01:48:02.119 --> 01:48:04.039
it was a very it was a tragic death and

1999
01:48:04.399 --> 01:48:07.640
very unfortunate, but at the same time, it's it's one

2000
01:48:07.640 --> 01:48:09.680
of those things like, you know, what are you doing.

2001
01:48:09.720 --> 01:48:12.079
You're carrying a gun. I know you're allowed to carry

2002
01:48:12.079 --> 01:48:16.039
that gun, but if you're interacting violently against you know,

2003
01:48:16.479 --> 01:48:20.079
not just federal agents, just even local law enforcement. You're

2004
01:48:20.079 --> 01:48:23.960
putting yourself at risk by just you know, behaving mindently

2005
01:48:24.079 --> 01:48:24.600
towards them.

2006
01:48:25.000 --> 01:48:25.880
Well, and that's your thing.

2007
01:48:25.960 --> 01:48:28.239
You know, you mentioned local law enforcement, and this is

2008
01:48:28.279 --> 01:48:31.520
what Tom Homan's trying to, you know, re engage with,

2009
01:48:31.640 --> 01:48:34.920
is local law enforcement, because local it's really essential that

2010
01:48:35.039 --> 01:48:37.119
local law enforcement be there. And this is all part

2011
01:48:37.159 --> 01:48:41.119
of the context, like you're saying, luis because law enforcement,

2012
01:48:41.159 --> 01:48:44.680
if they're there, they know the local people, and you know,

2013
01:48:45.680 --> 01:48:49.560
outside law enforcement doesn't have a relationship with these people.

2014
01:48:49.800 --> 01:48:51.039
And all they're doing is there.

2015
01:48:51.079 --> 01:48:54.920
Hey, I'm on a mission and my mission is being

2016
01:48:56.079 --> 01:48:59.199
being attacked and I'm being threatened. I mean, look at

2017
01:48:59.199 --> 01:49:01.680
the figures here, I mean the account of the number

2018
01:49:01.680 --> 01:49:05.800
of attacks, I mean the percentage that they've increased. And

2019
01:49:06.439 --> 01:49:10.439
the mainstream media and social media as well is contributing

2020
01:49:10.479 --> 01:49:13.760
to this, I believe, but they're not taking any responsibility

2021
01:49:13.840 --> 01:49:14.199
for it.

2022
01:49:14.840 --> 01:49:15.279
You're right.

2023
01:49:15.359 --> 01:49:17.720
So here's what we found in our in my study.

2024
01:49:18.039 --> 01:49:21.520
You know, the one positive headline about ice operations in

2025
01:49:21.520 --> 01:49:24.920
the state came from Fox News, and it was about

2026
01:49:25.199 --> 01:49:30.800
reporting about local police officers being missing in action while

2027
01:49:30.920 --> 01:49:34.039
agitators and rioters took over the streets. That was the

2028
01:49:34.079 --> 01:49:39.319
only positive headline that we analyzed across the Big four

2029
01:49:39.439 --> 01:49:43.600
News app and you know, over the one and eighteen stories,

2030
01:49:43.720 --> 01:49:46.000
the one positive headline. Now, let me give you a

2031
01:49:46.039 --> 01:49:48.039
review of some of the stories that we came across

2032
01:49:48.079 --> 01:49:51.600
on Big four. You know, there was a there was

2033
01:49:51.640 --> 01:49:55.359
a recurring theme here. You know, ice bad. You know,

2034
01:49:55.439 --> 01:49:59.800
protesters peaceful. You know they were going to hold visuals

2035
01:49:59.800 --> 01:50:01.520
and you know peaceful model.

2036
01:50:01.560 --> 01:50:04.520
It's it's the George Floyd narrative all over again, Louis,

2037
01:50:05.079 --> 01:50:06.199
it's a repeat of it.

2038
01:50:06.359 --> 01:50:07.960
Yeah, go ahead, you're one right.

2039
01:50:08.039 --> 01:50:10.720
So here's some of the headlines. Here's what we saw

2040
01:50:10.760 --> 01:50:14.840
on Apple News. Quote doctors in Minnesota, the cry fear

2041
01:50:15.039 --> 01:50:19.199
and chaos, I mean Trump Administration's immigration crackdown. That was

2042
01:50:19.279 --> 01:50:23.359
by the Associated Press. Another headline by Apple News, This

2043
01:50:23.479 --> 01:50:29.039
is unsustainable. The ice search in Minneapolis feels chaos. Here's

2044
01:50:29.079 --> 01:50:32.079
what happens on Google News. It feels like an invasion

2045
01:50:32.479 --> 01:50:36.119
Minnesota and stun as federal officers floored the state by

2046
01:50:36.199 --> 01:50:40.680
NBC News. Another headline by The Daily Beast. Ice now

2047
01:50:40.920 --> 01:50:45.199
so hated that even their own agents are terrified. On

2048
01:50:45.439 --> 01:50:50.399
MSN my CNN sloppy journalists who went through ICE hiring

2049
01:50:50.520 --> 01:50:55.960
process details experience to CNN, Yahoo News by Salon. The

2050
01:50:56.359 --> 01:51:00.720
radical left is organized news organization. How Christian know turn

2051
01:51:00.840 --> 01:51:04.399
Ice into the proud Boys? I mean, can you believe this?

2052
01:51:04.520 --> 01:51:07.560
Can any of the headlines? Mean it looks like say,

2053
01:51:07.600 --> 01:51:09.880
these headlines will have to be taken from press statements

2054
01:51:09.920 --> 01:51:13.800
from the Democratic National Committee. Now, yes, these are the

2055
01:51:14.279 --> 01:51:17.279
outlets are being promoted by the Speak for News AUP.

2056
01:51:17.600 --> 01:51:18.920
This is this is egregious.

2057
01:51:19.560 --> 01:51:22.359
Well, it puts everybody in danger. This is the thing

2058
01:51:23.000 --> 01:51:26.640
because what happens, I mean, it doesn't just happen to

2059
01:51:26.680 --> 01:51:32.439
the ICE agents. It sets a psychology within the city,

2060
01:51:32.520 --> 01:51:37.399
within the culture itself, that it's okay to be lawless.

2061
01:51:38.039 --> 01:51:40.760
And you know to what end? I mean, you know

2062
01:51:40.840 --> 01:51:43.159
they talk about an invasion. Oh did you forget the

2063
01:51:43.159 --> 01:51:47.560
invasion of twenty million illegal immigrants who came into the country,

2064
01:51:47.920 --> 01:51:52.119
many of them unvetted with track records of murder and

2065
01:51:52.319 --> 01:51:56.119
rape and human trafficking and drug running. I mean, what

2066
01:51:56.279 --> 01:51:58.960
happened here and then here, all in the name of

2067
01:51:59.039 --> 01:52:04.119
a sanctuary city or state. You're harboring criminals. Well, last

2068
01:52:04.119 --> 01:52:06.640
time I checked, I think that's against the constitution. So

2069
01:52:06.760 --> 01:52:10.079
this whole sanctuary state premise and predicate to me is

2070
01:52:10.800 --> 01:52:12.920
unfounded and illegal on its face.

2071
01:52:13.840 --> 01:52:15.199
And guess what Bill is.

2072
01:52:15.279 --> 01:52:17.720
If you are one of those Americans who rely on

2073
01:52:17.840 --> 01:52:20.520
this Big four for their news, you will have no

2074
01:52:20.600 --> 01:52:24.199
idea whatsoever why ICE is in Minnesota to begin with,

2075
01:52:24.439 --> 01:52:27.880
Like I mentioned earlier, zero percent of the headlines, zero

2076
01:52:27.920 --> 01:52:32.439
percent mention why federal agents were in the state to

2077
01:52:32.520 --> 01:52:33.920
begin with zero.

2078
01:52:34.560 --> 01:52:36.720
Yeah, well that's quite telling, right there.

2079
01:52:36.800 --> 01:52:40.359
Luis Cornelio, he's been our guest assistant editor for MRC

2080
01:52:40.520 --> 01:52:41.399
Free Speech America.

2081
01:52:41.439 --> 01:52:42.760
Louis, thank you so much.

2082
01:52:42.960 --> 01:52:43.520
Thank you Bill.

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