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0:00 Are you ready? Yeah, Okay, let's do an Ill Martina's Live, a program about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and our future. And now Bill Martinez, Well, good morning America. Glad you could join us. Bill Martinez here. Six minutes after the top of the arm, we got Mike O'Neil from Landmark Legal joining us. Hey, Michael, good morning to you. It's good to be with you. Bill. How are you today? Hey, I'm doing terrific. I'm you know, like everybody else. Right now as we're recording this, doctor Fauci is on the hill before a Senate hearing, and you know, it's it's it's just amazing what's going on. I guess the point of asking questions, even when you you know, want to claim your fifth uh, you know, take the fifth, it still exposes you because there's you know, the questions are being asked but not answered, and the questions are the questions that most Americans have.

0:58 Mike, right, I think it's. Now we've re released his diaries, and the story of the release of the diaries in and of itself is kind of a saga as well. I think it was it wasn't him that was released, and. I think that these from what I understand is that these the diaries were written on some sort of government servers or maybe a government computer at some point, and JHS officials kind of tried to do some data recreation and try to go through all of the rigmarole of it and were able to extract these these journal entries. And so you have his his diary entries for a period of time for two years during the COVID UH ninth, the COVID nine saga and everything, and it was just what what are these diaries reveal? Well, of course, setting aside kind of the salacious things that he was obsessed with his own celebrity and the narcissistic things, and the narcissism, the fact that he was knowingly he was knowing at least appeared to be lying to the American people. He was aware that it was that it was a human endeavor, that it was not natural, that the COVID virus was not natural, that it was engineered through gain of function research funded by the United States in the Wuhan virus lab.

2:07 He knew this early on that it wasn't that it was a man made virus, not in naturally occurring virus. He didn't have any faith in the all of the protocols that he was instituting. He was celebrating the fact that he was keeping kids at home from school, and though the fact that they were aware that it didn't have the same kind of. Delitorious effects on younger people as it did. Basically all the things that we were yelling about at the time, they knew, and yet they were gasolating the American people. So the damage that he really worked straight in, and he was the center of this was really immeasurable. And he managed to finaggle this pardon at the very last day of the Biden administration. I mean, I actually have the part right in front of me. Bill. It's it's amazing for it it is. It is it Auto pend Well, this is it.

2:48 This is what I'm getting into. I mean, first of all, let's just I want to I want to deconstruct this part a little bit and get into a personal theory I kind of had as to the validity of it. First of all, it's it's it's very brief. Let me quote from it. For any offenses against the United States which he may have committed or taken part in during the period from January one, twenty fourteen, through the date of this pardon arising from or in any manner related to his service as director of National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, as a member of the White House Coronave Task Force, the White House COVID nineteen response name, or Chief Medical Advisor to the President. So that's it. So we're talking January one, twenty fourteenth through janu what is it, January nineteenth, twenty twenty five. We're talking about a eleven year period for no specific grading a pardon and clemency for no specified violation. So I have a as a constitutional attorney, I have a fundamental problem with this.

3:48 Now this is again, this is just my cottage theory on this. I think that this validity and legality and constitutionality of this pardon should be stress. Tested at the Supreme Court. How would that happen? I believe that there are certain limitations on the pardon power. There has to be some sort of limitations on the pardon power. It can't just be that power. What I just said, it's a blank check. It can't be that. It can't be eleven years. Anything you might have done Federal that that's that would implicate federal federal criminal statutes. It can't be that broad that the Framers cannot have intended it to be that. And so there's so there's I want to stress this, How would how would that happen?

4:31 How would that? How would you envision this? Well, it'd be pretty actually pretty simple litigation, and it would be pretty pretty expedited. You would have the FBI conducted an investigation into the circumstances surrounding the execution of this part. They would interview people, presumably possibly even the the last president of the United States, show by people around him, and they would be able to uncover the with and breadth of the autopen issue. It would give them an entry into actually determining the with how this autopen stuff went about. H did Joe Biden actually signed this party number one? Then it would give you an entry into actually uncovering the state of mind of Joe Biden at the time. In other words, was he aware that this pardon was occurring?

5:12 Again, this is just well, we already we already know the state of mind of Joe Biden that was brought up by the special prosecutor. Right exact, And so we know, we know that the special prosecutor would prosecute him for improper uh. And this is coming out too that through the through these interviews for his book, that he was aware that he had top secret records that he was holding in his house in Delaware. So we know that it's but the state of mind here was that he couldn't be prosecuted for that because he wasn't fit to fit to stand trial. Okay, So this is where I'm going with this. You would be. Able to determine whether number one, President Biden actually executed this part or was it just part of an autopen thing with thousands we know part thousands of partons are executed at.

5:54 The end of his administration, like four thousand. Like that, I would submit to you at a base level, in order to properly execute the pardon power, you have to have a couple of things. You have to have. The president actually has to know have the conscience the menjarea that he is actually executing a pardon. In other words, he knows that he is pardoning Anthony Fauci for whatever it is that Anthony Fauci might have done. Assuming okay, Number two, was he physically present when this happened, and then number three was in other words, was it just an autopend? Did he know? Did he know he was doing? And what did he actually physically sign this? This? Was he aware of it? Next test test? The stress stress test? The breadth of this?

6:38 Can you have a pardon for offenses you didn't even commit or non name defenses? I understand granting a pardon for you might have committed a financial fraud crime ten years ago, or you might have avoided the draft, or President Nixon getting pardoned by president by President Ford. I kind of under I understand. I can wrap my head because there's actual Okay, these are the offenses you might you were charged with, we're pardoning you for that. The form one is interesting because that's the Nixon It was a broad one. But then how can we have pardons for eleven years for unspecified issues by a president who didn't even know he executed the pardon via auto pet If this isn't a test case for the limitations of the pardon power. I don't know what is finally on this, and I know I'm long winded on it, but it's really important. We're talking about Anthony Fauci, who, by all measures did enumera enormous damage to America.

7:33 Think about the damage that he wrought. He was at the CME. You got over a million Americans died as a result of the policies and that were executed. I mean, and it's still heartbreaking. And I remember when this was taking place, and I was grieving for those families, Michael that could not even see their loved ones as they passed to eternity. So there has to be some accountability. And again, I mean, I'm saying, okay, full, I'm reading it right now to you, to you a bill full and unconditional pardon. Stress test this. Now, how would it. Proceed from a litigation perspective? Again, you have the FBI investigation, which they'd be able to investigate this. You would have people put under oath, former White House staffers put under oath, under threat of perjury and obstruction of justice. When you're talking, when you're giving an interview to the FBI and the US Attorney, you have to be it's very serious.

8:25 Right. You can uncover so so much of what was going on at the very end of the Biden administration with regards to all of these grants of clemency, and pardons. Then you prosecute indicte Fauci. You can indict him for perjury. I think that's pretty clear. It seems like it's pretty clear. At least it appears to me that he that he apparently lied in his testimony to Congress multiple times, right indite him for perjury? What would happen? A district court would dismiss the case in five seconds, because they'd say, the pardon district, Federal District Court. DC, where have you dell? Wherever you want, wherever the jurisdiction is proper, dismiss it in five You did not even you blink. It gets pelt to the circuit Corps, dismissed within a minute.

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14:36 There is very little, generally speaking, and I've looked into this somewhat generally speaking, the courts have interpreted the powered pardon power as enormously broad based, the part that it derives from kings, from Old England common law kings, the sovereigns authority to grant clemency and everything interpreted incredibly broad as almost a there are no there are no limited at least as of right now, I believe is again as a deve otef separation of powers as a constitutional attorney, that our framers never envisioned the pardon power to be abused in the manner in which we sought abused by Joe Biden pardoning Anthony Fauci, and I think it would be an ideal opportunity to actually test this, and it is.

15:20 If there's ever if there is ever an opportunity for somebody who's pardon to be limited, it has to be this. This man has the damage he caused. You were talking about loved ones. Think about all of the people who were able to visit. I have a friend who couldn't see his brother who is dying of pancreatic cancer. Every and that's not a unique story I have. I'm sure so many people have loved ones and families. The damage on our children. I work with young people in their early twenties right now. They remember this period of time where they were isolated. They still suffer from the damages they had. The incredible and that's not just talking about the unemployment, everything that happened during that terra We. Well and look at look at the implications of theirs that they're finding out that you know, here it is you've got all of a sudden, these young people that are dropping dead, and they're saying, hey, this is associated with the vaccine.

16:08 Yes, exactly, we're talking about vaccine damages that are still that we're still suffering. Apparently Anthony Fauci again, this is what I've just read, Anthony Fauci, had it had some sort of cardiac event. Right, exactly right. So my point is is that if there is ever a time to go to go after somebody and test this, now is the time. Now. What's the other side of this. The other side of this is maybe there's not a political will. Because I'll acknowledge Donald the fact that this power is so this is such a broad power. I don't necessarily think Donald Trump would say, oh, this is now if if Biden has done this, then I have this power too, and I want to be able to utilize it too. He's of course, obviously a follower of robust executive authority.

16:49 So I don't know if the political will is there. That beans said, I think the legal case there, there is a legal case to be made. Now, turning back to the beginning of our point, our good conversation here, why is Anthony Fauci pleading the Fifth Amendment right now and not testify and not giving substantive answers to the testimony he's giving. You know, he was su poened by Congress. He's in front of the Paul Committee hearing right now. Why is he pleading the fifth Well, he's pleading the fifth because that pardon ceases January twenty fifth, twenty twenty twenty five. In other words, he can you can't have a prospective part. So if he commits perjury right now in front of Congress, he can be prosecuted for that. The pardon is not applicable to You can't have a prospective part I can. You can only pardon you, I guess retrospectively. I can't write exactly pardon for any crime you ever made, commit for your entire life. Now go out and commit murder. No, no, so you can't be part You can only be retrospectively parton. You can't leave perspectively pardon. So that's why he's taking the Fifth. And I'm not surprised that that. I was ruminating on this yesterday and I was thinking, he really has no choice but to pleate the Fifth Amendment because from a legal perspective I was attorney, I'd say, look, you're you're golden.

17:52 You know obviously your pr is you're devastating for that. But legally speaking, nobody, nobody can prosecute you, They can't do anything to you. Just go out there and don't give him anything. Easy, take the fifth. It's the smart thing to do. So, Mike, speaking speaking of pardon power, because you brought that up earlier, is that you know I remember when Bill Clinton, I mean he he went on, uh, he went into pardon mania. Uh, Barack Obama did. It just seems like and and again this is Democrat versus Republican, and every you know, every president has that power. But it seems that and correct me if I'm wrong, but it just seems that I can't. I can't, I gotta, I gotta, I can't. Trump has been made robust use as the president of the part power.

18:35 He's part of a lot of folks. So again, I. Don't, I mean, this is this is what they this is kind of what they did some recently. I don't think George W. Bush pardon very many people. I don't think there was much use of that, and I don't think Reagan. But really now, obviously Obama Biden really set the bar set a new standard with the end of his term. I don't think Biden knew what he was doing. I think it was just people around him who were anything that came in front of him. He was just autopending sign Again, my point being is I don't think those. Are I don't. I can't imagine from an originalist position that our framers envisioned that power to. Be abused like that. We know there are limitations. This is what we do, right, this is what I do. There are limitations to powers.

19:17 We talk about this all the time. What are the limitations on Congress? Are the limitations of the president? So many Supreme Court cases we talk about is when the president's abusing is executive authority and Congress isn't doing anything? Or is is the judiciary abusing their authority? Are they imposing a remedy that they don't have the power to do? We talk about this all the time. What are the limitations? The beauty of a miracle of our constitution is that there are limitations. That the separation of powers doctrine means something. I can't fathom the fact that this power which has been acknowledged as a probably the strongest power the president has. Really objectively speaking, I can't believe that it was ever intended to be abused in the manner in which we've seen Anthony Fauci and this if there ever were a case to delineate the limitations on it, and I quite thank I believe that there's a political will for this too.

20:09 I think that there's millions of Americans who are saying, is there going to be any accountability for all of this, all of this, what happened during the COVID nineteen saga. I mean, and what about him? What about him being sued by the States? I know again, because that's that's a lot of sovereign immunity. Is he's acting in his capacity as a government official, then he's not personally liable for that. And he was. So again, I think that this is the accountability would have to be through this, And I do think I gotta believe, particularly when you think about this and everything comes out, these diaries come out, and we were right, everybody, they were wrong. They completely gas lit every American and so many of. Us went went through it. Folks down of Florida, Amen, Amen, God blessed like Ron sentis by the way, I mean right, I mean this is the Florida stood Florida and your leadership down there said no, the craziness is not going to come down here.

21:02 So we're going to do something. But for the overwhelming majority of Americans had to suffer because of these foolhardy you know. And essentially, really what it comes down to is he understood. Founci understood that he was the architect of this. He funded the money to Wuhan, to the Wuhan virus lab. He ensured that they got the money, and he knew when this virus got out, he was he was exposed, and he had to get ahead of it. And he got he was trying to protect his gain of function, desires. That's what this was all about, the function and himself and himself. He said, look, I'm on the hook here, I am the point for person for this. I've funded this, I've now I have to get ahead of it, and I have to control the narrative. And I'm going to control the narrative. And that's what he did. And now it's all unraveling and it's being exposed, and the truth is being exposed. And there should be some accountability, and you.

21:52 Know, and I and again my point is is at least seeing a process play out, you would say at least somebody tried, you know, yea some And again, there's so much behind the scenes you could do. You could really get into what was. Going on at the end of the Biden administration with the auto pen stuff, with his mental state. We already know where his mental state was. I bet you in an interview with Fine right now, he wouldn't even he'd have no knowledge of executing the pardon for fauci. He would so or maybe I mean again, I'm I'm extrapolating and just I'm just guessing he wouldn't. I would have guessed that he had no knowledge of it. And so you know, I think if there was ever a king, this is probably just a fool's there and me talking about it. But I really, I would really think that this this is certainly something more than just an academic endeavor, and I.

22:36 Would love to have seen it. I do. I do put a lot of credit in Rand Paul his efforts to hold some sort of accountability on this. Oftentimes there's a lot of things I disagree with. Senator Paul on But in this instance, I really do think he's doing a lot of work to trying to hold these folks accountable for some of their actions. Well, and as rand Paul said brilliantly, and that is that science and the ani ahe have violated the trust of Americans. Yeah. Yeah, that's what's really sad too. Is another another offshoot of this is the lack of trust. And this is what we're talking about in the Boning context. Once you lose trust in something and an institution, a person, what have you, it's incredibly impossible to you know, difficult to bring that trust back and regain that trust.

23:18 And when so, what happens the next time there's something happens, do we you know, do we poo poo? What if? What if there really is a serious virus and we have to do something and everybody's like, no, I'm not going to do it, or vice versa, nobody's going to listen to it. So, you know, the damage again, a lot of the a lot of the incestuous things when it comes to vaccines and profits and money, the ivermectin suppression, all of that stuff. That's it's just it's just support when you really begin to think about it and and and put your mind to it. So you know, ideally it would have been nice to have some sort of accountability. I don't think there's some I don't think the administration unfortunately is committed to try to prosecute it. But I think it would be certainly an interesting, uh interesting endeavor if it were to occur.

23:58 Well, uh, no doubt there's SOAGA will continue. Mike O'Neil from Landmark Legal, Michael, thank you appreciate the time, take care of my friend. Thanks Bill, have a great day. You got it. We call ourselves Asap Travel for one reason. We can help you book a ticket asap. For those of you that don't know, that means as soon as possible. That means no wait time, you get through right away, no searching online. Our specialty is the lowest available fares on the big name airlines you know them. We can't tell you their names. You can fly domestically or internationally and save more money than you could if you call the airlines directly. Our proprietary software goes underneath the hood of the major airline booking systems and find you the best rates available. So if you're ready to make your travel plans right now.

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27:42 Hey, we're back with Ibill Martinez here along with Ken Abramowitz, who's going to be talking with Kenny's the founder of Savedthwest dot com, a website dedicated to saving Western civilization from itself. Ladies and gentlemen, Hey Ken, good morning. Welcome Chlon, my friend. Good to have you with us. Morning. Great to be with you from Holy Land of Israel. Yeah. I was going to say, you're still there in the Holy Land, and I appreciate you coming on here right before Shabbat so we can talk about some you know, some things that continue here. I mean, just before we get into talking about Israel. We've got the President's speech last night that you know some of the networks decided not to participate in you know, Donald Trump continues to trigger them and disturb their sensibilities. You know, they just they don't want the truth, the whole truth and nothing.

28:33 But I guess so continues, that's right. Yeah, So anyway, but I did want to address this vote that taken place in the House where Democrats in large numbers, I mean, they're full blown out of the closet. I mean, they're about as anti Israel as you can get. They want nothing to do with Israel. And you know, so here it is, well. There was I think roughly one hundred Congressmen who voted against continuing aid to Israel. Now it's not in the newspapers, but this is the equivalent of treason because Israel's protecting America.

29:15 Israel's the equivalent of pretend five aircraft carriers, and we have eleven aircraft carriers, but not all of them are working at the same time. Many of them are in maintenance and whatnot. So let's say we have seven effective aircraft carriers in Israel's five. So Israel's almost little. Israel is almost equal to the outstanding aircraft carriers that we have around the world. So if someone says, oh, let's not send any money to those aircraft carriers and no gasoline or whatever nuclear power, but pretend they were at diesel powered. We're not sending anything because we don't need the five aircraft carriers. Yes, we do the five aircraft carriers.

30:01 And so it's the equivalent of treason to vote against a strong relationship with Israel. Yeah, and what's their idea? Okay, well the idea? So what do we do without Israel? I mean, think about that for just a moment. Well, the Charlie shows how disease the country is. One hundred out of four hundred and thirty five congressmen in round numbers is twenty five percent. So twenty five percent of congressmen are not loyal to America. They might be loyal to Iran and Qatar and Russia and China, but they're not loyal to America. That's why I call it treason. What's going on here? So basically they're working for the other team, but they still get a vote. You know, it's not like they wear a T shirt. You know, I'm working for the other team. Can I still vote.

30:53 One of the problems we have is we do not require a national security clearance for our congressmen and senators. So you can be literally a foreign agent like Mamdani in New York and run for mayor and no one checks your national security clearance to find out that you're an Iranian agent. So in round numbers, one hundred of our congressmen, twenty five percent are either foreign agents or getting money from foreign countries and who are buying their vote against Israel. How much are you saying, Well, I believe it was roughly one hundred congressmen vote no, yes, right, yeah, So that's in round numbers, it's twenty five percent of Congress of the House. That's pretty sad situation.

31:41 Well, that's on the issue of Israel, But how many other issues that have not come up to the point that would expose their alliance and or allegiance to foreign entities. I mean, foreign money has been coming into this country and has bought and sold political officials for decades. Here. You know, Trevor Lauden has been reporting on this for decades, and you know all this stuff that you know that's coming to the front in terms of democratic socialism. You know, again, Trevor's been reporting on this, so it's no big surprise to our audience. But yet in a little bit, I guess maybe a little bit of surprise is that it's just, you know, they're all out of the closet now, Okay, So so it's like we we more than suspected this was occurring. Now we know, Now what are we going to do about it? And this issue that keeps coming up and that you just said that, you know, we we have officials who have a vote, who are in elected office, who have insight and information that is top secret, they have access to it, and they're bought and sold by foreign agents.

32:48 Yes, it's pathetic. Now, by the way, Democratic Socialists of America or DSA is basically a Chinese communist foreign agent operation. All of their platform is viciously anti America. And why do we allow them to run? They should be declared illegal, a subversive organization. The Muslim Brotherhood gets money from Qatar, Turkey, pakistanis should be declared a terror organization. So we should not allow foreign agents to run in our elections for public office. But we haven't done that yet, so DSA has not been declared a terror organization. Muslim Brotherhood only certain affiliates have been declared a terror organization, and we have to get much stronger. By the way, in the nineteen fifties, I was five years old, but Joseph McCarthy went on a crusade against communists in the government. He was exactly right. Too bad he didn't live longer, and too bad he didn't find all the communists that he was heavily criticized at the time for what he did, but he was a national hero. We need the equivalent of someone like that to come back and root out what I call the reds, the greens, and the blues, the reds of the communists, the greens of the isulnists, and the blues of the globalists. These people have no business in our in our government. But we don't have

34:19 a mechanism to do that just yet. You know, it's quite telling because you think about what jose McCarthy did back in the fifties and how much pushback he got. What does that tell you, ken. Well, tell you is that there were a lot of communists in the government. Of course, Hello, yes, of course. There was pushback against him, and that that you know, there's an expression when when you're over the air force expression when you're over the target, you get a lot of flack. So that's that's right. He was over the target. Too bad, he just didn't hang around over the target a little longer. And that he didn't have the support and network work of other like minded individuals that could see this. And you know, again, you get that aged old organizational issue that you go along to get along, and meanwhile the country is going right down the toilet.

35:15 Yes, well, it's one of the problems that sometimes I'm having dinner with someone who says some naive things, and I have a standard joke. I say, you know, you have a personality disorder, and they go, what do you mean a personality disorder? I said, what is it? Your personal personality disorder is that you're good. And then the persons how can being good be a personality disorder? I said, because you don't understand evil. You're so good. You have such nice, wonderful thoughts in you. You read the Constitution, Bill of Rights and all these wonderful documents, and you think everybody else is like you. And so that's one of the problems we have. The forces of good do not understand the forces of evil. Meanwhile, the forces of evil understand the forces of good very well. Well, yeah, that's why there's a disconnect here, right.

36:05 Well, And the thing that's so amazing, you know, we've had these moments, these vulcal moments kind of in our history where you know, you're dealing with you know, Nazis, I mean real Nazis, not the ones that the left of making up. But you know, you go deal with them. Next thing, you know, you're bringing them into the country. You're dealing with radical Muslims. We have nine to eleven. Then you bring them into the country, you know, communists, then you bring them into the country. I mean, what are we thinking here? And I think it goes back to what you're talking about, is that overall And you know in Tokaville to Tokville, when he came here to the country to observe what was going on, he just said, you know, in a general consensus, the people in America are good people. Well, you know, because we're good people, you know, we can't be so open minded that our brains fall out, right.

36:54 That's right. It's one of the Achilles heels. So to speak of good people is they don't properly understand evil. And by the way, I have an expression about this. Evil people are good at being evil. Good people are bad at being good. And so we have to good people who believe in the rule of love and believe in God, believe in the Bible. We have to assert ourselves. We can't be silent. We have to fight, I mean culturally, fight, fight with words. Uh. I have another expression along these lines. The bad guys slander the good guys with lives. We the good people, have to slander the evil people with the truth.

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42:26 Well, there's something that's another disconnect we have is the good people think that you have peace ninety eight percent of the time and two percent of the time there's a war, you know, World War one, World War two, nine to eleven. The evil people think there's one hundred percent war one hundred percent of the time. They're always they're always in a state of words. So that's another disconnect between good and evil. We look forward to peace and they look forward to war. Right exactly. And so here we are dealing with Iran and we're in this conundrum I mean, we're dealing with this, you know, this kind of conflict of orthodoxy. You know, we're a peaceful country. They you know, that's the wrong gospel, wrong church as far as the IRGC is concerned.

43:14 Right, right, So, Iran's a good example, by the way, every generation or so in the history of mankind, there's pure, unadulterated evil. Our parents, grandparents had the Nazis. Of course, in the Japanese at that time. They're normal countries now, but at that time they were run by crazed lunatics. Well, Iran is full of normal people, but it's run by crazed lunatics. And we have to liberate the eighty five percent of the people who are normal from the twelve percent who are punishing and cruelly running that country. But to tell someone in America, and you do not have to be in Nebraska. You can be in a major city and you say, oh, around's full of lunatics, lunatic government.

44:06 They want to kill everyone in America. And American would say, where's the run again, and what does that have to do with me? And why would they want to kill me. I didn't kill that. I don't even know them. They don't know me, Why why would they want to kill me? Well, you know, they believe that Christians, Jews, and Hindus have no right to exist because they've been replaced by Manslims, and so therefore everyone who's not their version of Islam should be killed. And people say, look, you're dreaming. You know what a nut case? You know, why did I agree to have dinner with you? You know, when's the dinner over? I want to go home and get away from this guy. And so that's part of what we were discussing is good people cannot understand how evil people can be. Now, by the way, if we pretend we went to watch a Star Wars movie and I say, oh, Vader, he's really evil and he's a part of this death Star and these guys are lunatics. Everyone was saying, you're do I need your analysis? I know that I don't need your help. As soon as you leave the theater and I say, oh, he's like Darth Vader. I don't know what this guy's talking about, right.

45:19 Yeah, this is it's amazing to me the disconnect, as you say, that has taken place here. And you know, really, I mean when you think about you know, World War two and Adolf Hitler, and you know, the clear evil that took place, the clear evil that took place on America when America was attacked in Pearl Harbor, what happened at nine to eleven. You know, we see even in Iran now the president has revised his numbers to say at least fifty two thousand. You know, people citizens there of Iran have been mowed down, some others. You know, we've talked to other people, our good friends, you know, boots on the ground there in Israel has said build the number over eighty thousand, and I'll go with his number because you know, they've always been pretty straight and upfront about it. But regardless, you know, whether you're talking fifty eight, that's a lot of people that have been mowed down there in Iran. That is rank evil. And how do you reconcile that and think, Okay, do you think what happens in Iran is going to stay in Iran?

46:26 You're exactly right. I mean, when you're dealing I call the around leadership of death help. So there's ninety three million people in the country, and let's just say thirteen million are part of the government or their businesses, and let's say eighty million are normal, they would kill all the eighty million people. Well, there's something abound when you're running a death help either your enemies die or you die. Pick one. You know you're not going to set up a library, you know, a presidential library and host a gala dinner for it. Okay, So if you lose your debt and so that's why they fight to the death because they don't have the leadership or run has no choice but to fight. Just like Hitler, he fought to the death. Finally, when there was absolutely no choice, he killed himself. But in general, death cults die and they go down with the ship. So we just have to help the death cult die. We have to blow up all the targets we can find, and we have to arm the half of the population that are minorities who would love to get rid of these criminals running around.

47:35 So we still have a lot of work to do. I'd say we're in the third inning or fourth inning, but we have to be steady. And I don't have to tell you that we have an election coming up November third, So I'm not looking for a big, big war between now and November third. But right now, we just have to keep the straight or moves open. But after the election, we're going to we have to deal with these lunatics. The world is not big enough for America and Iran to coexist with each other. Do you think we have to wait that long? Kim, Well, I'm just citing the politics. Yeah, I know Americans. By the way, for forty seven years, no president educated Americans as to who's a run? Why are they lunatics?

48:23 Why do they want to kill everybody? Why do they have a death count? Everyone said, these guys essential lunatics. I don't want to even discuss it with the American public. So I don't blame the American public for not being aware that arouns an existential threat, and therefore you do not want to treat them as an existential threat before November three, It's better to say, all I want is the straightor homes open. All I want is oil tankers going through, Gasoline prices coming down, inflation coming down, interest rates coming down. Go have a nice summer vacation and vote for being on November third. That's the discussion for now. Well, and what about Ken, what about you know, the media, the disservice that they have perpetrated on the American people.

49:12 I mean, you know, you talk about presidents not educating, but the media has all you know, has also become anti American. Well, this is what I call cultural warfare. Cultural warfare is when you fight with words. So for example, you me, everyone listening today, we're cultural warriors. We don't have bullets, we don't have uniforms. So what the bad guys have done, the Reds, the Greens, and the blues, is undermine our culture with through cultural warfare against our k through twelve teachers, against our teachers colleges, against their universities, against our synagogues and churches, our media, our social media. So this is a form of warfare. And the bad guys are very clever to fight us with cultural warfare because they're not as good as we are in fighting conventional kinetic.

50:05 Warfare, right exactly. Well, And the thing is when you think about the cumulative intelligence of three hundred and forty three hundred and fifty million people, and by and large, as we were reminded here with the World Cup coming to America, you know what we heard from the Europeans is that they were surprised how good Americans are. That we're good people. Right, going back to what we first talked about, right. Americans are good people, tumble, as we discussed, we're so good we don't understand evil people because we why would why would someone want to be evil? Why don't you just do good things? That's just one of our problems.

50:46 So, I mean, here, you're the founder of Savethwest dot com. What is the prescription here? Because you know, as you said, people are you know, for the most part good. They want to think good and be good and all that. But you know, going back to what I said earlier, is that you know, you got to know when there is a time for war and a time for peace and what that means. Well, i'll give you two prescriptions and I'll try to do it in one minute. Okay, Well you got a couple of minutes so we can. Okay, all right, So there's the direct way to win and the indirect way to win. The direct way to win is to say there's three groups of bad guys, red screens, blues. They use seven forms of warfare, which I'll explain in twenty seconds. Seven times three is twenty one that we have to confront them in twenty one forms of warfare, twenty one fronts. That that's kinetic, chemical, biological, cultural, which we just discussed, economic, legal, demographic, and cyber. So the direct way to win is say we're in twenty one wars or twenty one fronts of one war. If you want to say, and we have to win on all twenty one fronts, that's the hard way. I'm going to give you the easy way. The easy way is the Reds, Greens, and Blues all hate Jews and Christians the God. They hate the Bible. Now they're focused on Jews because Jews are low hanging fruit. Only two percent of American populations Jewish, ninety percent Christians. So the point I'm getting to is, if we could criminalize anti Semitism

52:19 and criminalize incitement to genocide, we could start locking up the Reds, the Greens, and the Blues, not for the crimes that they committed, which we just discussed, but for inciting to genocide. I think incitement to genocide should be declared illegal and we should start arresting people for inciting genocide. And the Reds, Greens, and the Blues can't control themselves saying I want to kill Jews. They actually want to kill Christians, they just focus on the Jews. Right, Somehow it's acceptable, which amazing to me. Somehow it's acceptable to say it's okay to kill somebody. How is that not a hate crime? And because here we are, we're exercising ourselves over hate crimes, right right.

53:02 Well, I have a little analogy of that. You have an orange shirt on, right, Yeah, So what if we were in a restaurant, pretend and there's two hundred people, pretend, and they give me a microphone, pretend, and I stand on the chair and I say, I think everyone with an orange shirt should be killed. And you're the only one with an iron shirt. So the other one hundred and ninety nine people say, well, doesn't bother me, and you say, wait a minute, but it bothers me. So that's why they go after the Jews, because the Jews are low hanging food, or as they say, the canary and the cold night. Right. Well, Kenneth Romowitz, always great to have you with us. Thank you so much for sharing you know, your inside once again and giving us a prescription to you know, saving the West dot com. You know, the good people must stand up together. And be good, be good together in a way that supports our future.

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55:35 I'm great, Bill, thank you. Interesting times here in our country with the rise of socialism. I mean it's like the closet doors are all open, and it's like fib Or McGee's closet. Remember sure, remember that. I mean I vaguely remember it. I just remember because I'm an old radio guy, and you know, it's always great to hear some of the shows. But it's like all this stuff is falling out of the closet. Whether you're talking about doctor Bauci, you're talking about the democratic socialists that were you know, they didn't want to say anything, but now it's like, hey, I'm a socialist, Well why don't you just admit you're you're more than a socialist, You're just a doug on communists. You know, well, you know, it's amazing how how the new generations today don't have any connection to the history of the world, well much less.

56:31 A history of America. Scott. I mean, the latest post says only forty six percent of Americans have any you know, understanding of US history, and forty six and another forty six percent you know, just you know, they don't have anything. And then anybody left over just doesn't know and they don't care. It's crazy. So is so one question that all Americans should ask, thoughtful people should ask is how did we get here? How is it that we've arrived at this place with such a low percentage of the citizens of this country, the young citizens have no understanding of how they got here?

57:14 How do we how do we get to be the greatest economic power in the world? How did we get to be the country where ninety five percent of uh, you know, of the new new inventions and new ideas originate in the United States? Right right? You know? How is it that we have become the greatest power so quickly? Well, it's because of the the philosophical foundation of our country in the way that our country was structured, the form of government and the culture that supported that form of government. And when you turn culture, when you destroy the culture, everything down and stream of the culture begins to also be destroyed.

58:03 Exactly. Well, the thing is is that our founding fathers, and we've said this time and again, acknowledged God, and they sought God in the construct of this great American idea. And you know, the Bible says that God will bless those who bless God, and God blessed America and now America, which is you know, like other cultures and other nations and empires before who had a period of success, decided to go their own way until until it's too late.

58:43 And you and I have talked about this before about are we at that tipping point? Are we beyond the tipping point? This is what is the question that is before us this day. And I. Have my doubts. I mean, my faith is in God, and God can still, you know, if he so chooses to do so, work with a small remnant and redeem this country for his ultimate glory and purpose, if that be his will. But you know, looking at what's going on right now. I think America is rather inconsiderate and laissez faire about the threats that are no longer at the door. They're inside the house and setting up shop.

59:26 Scott Oh, absolutely, yes. And we've been talking about this for years, Bill, you and I I've certainly been writing about it for many, many years. But you know, particularly when we open the borders under the Biden administration to anyone to enter the country, anyone unvetted, they were granted a free pass into the United States, You mean to think you don't think our enemies would begin to be sending agents into our country sort of as fifth columnists. Yes, you know, to be either activated at a critical time, like when a war would break out, or just to con you know, conduct ongoing you know, operations against our you know, our military establishment, our bases, our electric power grid. I mean, we have so many vulnerabilities that could be negatively, dramatically, negatively affected by you know, fifth columns that were free to operate in the country. You know, Chris Ray did report before he left office on several occasions that every twenty hours, that is, more than once a day, the FBI was opening up a case against the Chinese operating in America.

1:00:51 You think that is slow, You think that after you know, think that has slowed down probably, But a lot was put in place for many years, and you know, we we we were reaping the consequences. And then and then the follow up question, Scott is how many Chinese mothers, you know, pregnant women came in under the guise of birthright citizenship to take advantage And now how many citizens that are of you know, Chinese descent and not in more than descent, but that are you know, they're more affiliated, affiliated with China, but now they have dual citizenship because they were born in America.

1:01:36 I mean, this was a rather aggressive and systematic, you know, cottage industry that the Chinese took full advantage. I mean they have come in on many areas and have arrested, you know, parts of our culture, whether it has to do with media or sports, and I would say even the political process. We know, according to the reporting of Miranda Divine, we have politicians that are captured, their children are captured, you know, they call them princelings, you know, and this is all part and parcel of this process that's been going on for decades. To your points Gott. Yeah. It and of course Peter Schweitzer's work has been, you know, the most recent work that has exposed much of this.

1:02:23 But it is what it is, and I think we have to you know, I think I'm with you Bill that it is only God that can save our country now. But God works for people, so we can't just rely on, you know, one man like President Trump to solve our problems. Now, it's we the people. It's we the people, that's exactly. And that's that's why, man. That's why your show and your ministry, if you will, your radio ministry and TV ministry is so important because we've got to everyone who's watching you needs to be your missionary. In other words, we need to bring more people into the fold. We need to expand your audience because there are many people that don't understand what's going on.

1:03:16 And it's not that hard now to understand it, because it's right in front of our eyes. We see it more clearly than ever before. Well, I've been saying repeatedly here recently, this is the word that keeps coming into my consciousness is contrast, Scott. It is so bold and the contrast is so clear. So there's no confusion. You know, in the seventies and eighties, the latter part of the sixties, we operated in a gray culture. Everything was it was kind of okay, kind of you know, your truth is my truth, and your truth you know whatever. And it was all an amalgamation, homogenization of truth and lives brought together that became embraceable.

1:03:57 And you know, we were guess lit and we were self delusioned. And here we are, you and I both saying, look it, unless we return to God, we're going to remain in this delusion. And there could be a sad situation around the corner. We're talking with Scott Powell. He's a member of the Discovery Institute and his book is infamous book, Rediscovering America. He's got to follow up book coming up, you know, very shortly, so we are in anticipation of that's good. Well, it's a book that's a real huge effort because it really covers almost every every area of attack that is being launched against us. And I don't have answers for all of those things. I offer quite a few answers.

1:04:49 Most of them are rooted in common sense, most of them are rooted in turning back to God. You know, we need a spiritual revival in our country, and with that we could see so many things dissipate and fall away. For instance, this notion that you know, the transgender the growth of transgenderism, and what we call gender dysphoria, where people question their birth identity and that birth identity, of course, was what God chose them to be, boy or girl, man or woman. All of this would basically just fall away because when people really connect with their creator, they know that he didn't make any mistakes in creating a boy or a girl, and that there is no such thing as changing your sex.

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1:10:26 I think somebody had estimated we're talking less than three percent of the population dealing with this, and it's almost like homosexuality when homosexuality started to become, you know, a part of the cultural expression, and the closet doors were open, so to speak. And I remember the Clinton years when Clinton was running for president. You know, you had the gay lobbyists and everything that we're trying to you know, just gender up their numbers and gen up their numbers, so to speak. And at that time, I think was somewhere, you know, maybe around ten percent plus or mind ten percent of America was acknowledged to be gay. Well, by the time Bill Clinton got elected, they go into this is an anecdotal story that I was told that they go into the Oval Office claiming, you know, twenty five percent influence in the American culture and that they were responsible for electing one you know, Bill Clinton. And Bill Clinton stopped them and said, look it, you know, let's get real. You know, you're not twenty five percent. You're lucky to be ten percent. So that's about as much influence as you're going to have in this administration. So you need to back off in so many words. But you know, of course we know from that point, you know, they continue to progress as they do, and now you've got LGBTQ and all these other alphabet letters plus you know coming into play, which you know, when you look at the last several decades, you know, what benefit has

1:12:00 this offered to our culture and to humanity? Are we better off or worse off as a result. I guess, oh, the unquestionably we are worse off. We are better off when we have a consensus of who we are as people, and when we have a shared vision of what is good and and and what is meaningful in our lives. And it doesn't mean that we're all alike, We're not. I mean God created us distinctly different, and that was his plan because he wanted to see people. He wanted to see his creation flourish. And in order for his creation to flourish, that is, his human creation, there had to be great diversity. There had to be unequal distribution of talents, of intelligence, of levels of motivation, of creativity, and so forth.

1:13:00 And in that embodiment, Scott, if I might add really quick, is that there's a natural order in the midst of that diversity, right. Right, right, yeah, yeah. And you know it took many years for us to fully realize that all of this diversity, behind all of this diversity was an equality of stature before God that regardless of our wealth or our poverty, our intelligence, or our relative mediocrity, God values all of us equally.

1:13:41 We all have all equal value. We aren't endowed with equal abilities, but most importantly, by our creator, we are looked at equally and treated equally. We have equal value. And that's a very noble thing. And when society is infused with that, what do you find? You find greater civility, you find more respect. You find wealthy people showing great respect for trades people who come to their homes, whether they're electricians or plumbers or you know, or landscaper, landscapers, those people are appreciated, yes, right, and there's an open expression of appreciation. And when there are open expressions of appreciation, civilization is so much better.

1:14:30 Yeah. And the thing is, and you bring up a good point here, because some of the argument about illegal immigration is who's going to do my lawn, Who's going to you know, babysit my kids or whatever. But you're exactly right, I think, and this is the paradox in the conflict. As we appreciate people for their role that they play in our lives and culture, the challenges is that the conflict comes in is that when the foundation of said service is illegal, that's that's the problem, and and that's what we need to address. It's not it's not impossible, UH, it's and it's UH. You know, I think we make it unnecessarily painful and convoluted because we we abandon common sense.

1:15:21 There's a way I believe to arrive at UH, at that point where the essentials are maintained, the natural order of things are maintained, because when that happens, it goes well for everybody. You know, security is UH is held onto. You know. Right now, we've got illegals that you know, they're not going to call the police. They operate in the shadows, and what do they have to rely on. They have to rely on, you know, the local gangster who can do their bidding for them in some cases, or to be walking around, you know, feeling like the Domoicles sword is above their head and at any moment, even after being in this country, and maybe in their own justifications saying, look at I've paid my taxes because I bought food and I did all this, and you know, maybe I didn't fill out a specific income tax form, but I've been participating in the economy year. So I'm not that bad.

1:16:17 But the deal is is that you know, most reasonable Americans, we don't want you to be bad at all, right, right, right. Right, yes, yes, But you know, we also recognize that there has to be there has to be shared values for a society to really function optimally. There needs to be shared values. And the problem with much of our immigration crisis is that it has eroded the shared values that Americans have had for many years. You know, we absorbed many, many immigrants from Europe, right, and of course they came from they were. And they were.

1:16:58 Predisposed to really flourish in America because they had more freedom in America than they had in the world in which they left. But they had shared values. They were primarily Christians who came to America. Well, what was our shared value, Scott, when we first started as a country, I would dare say, you know, the Ten Commandments was the basis of shared values, and progressives went after it, and so in the mid sixties we got it all out of the classrooms. Well can you not see the connection here? To your point, You're exactly right. We took out, you know, the basis of our shared values and we threw it into the trash can. Yeah.

1:17:41 You know what's amazing is that, you know, our our enemies understand the power of repetition and propaganda. You know, repeat a message often enough, it will it will take on a certain amount of truth in the minds of even the skeptic. You know, when people were exposed to the Ten Commandments as they were, you know, for generations and generations from the founding of the country, that had a beneficial effect on how people thought about how to live their lives.

1:18:25 You know, they're always bad actors. I mean, that's just the nature of you know, of a sinful man, is that there will be people that succumb to their fallen nature who decide that they're going to you know, they're going to act in their self interest and steal from others. Those people have always been with us, but they were far fewer in number than they are now. Now. When you take God out of our as God has been taken out of our culture, there's no sense of fear of God. There's no right, there's no you know, if you can get away with it, go for it, right, Well, there's his healthcare of God in a sense, that's part of the party platform of the DSA. You know, we we want to you know, upend law and order, and somehow they're going to come up with some imaginary you know, order without law. How does that happen.

1:19:19 It does not happen. It is chaos. And everybody should understand that what the DSA represents is nothing short of what we've seen in every communist country that's been established. There is there is no ultimate socialist society without a tyrannical government in place. We got to leave it there, Scott Pal thank you as always appreciate all the insight and you know in sharing with us on a weekly basis. Scott, how can people be in touch and get their hands on your book? Well, it's you know, it's it's at the publisher. It's it's going through its editing phase and this is the new book. But first of all, read Discovering America is still out there right now, Yes.

1:20:02 It is, And Rediscovering America is in some ways more important now than when it was written four years ago, because Rediscovering America is all about rediscovering God's hand behind America. Now, even the skeptic, even the skeptic when they read several of the chapters in the book will say wow, I never knew that before. This is worth considering exactly well. Scott Pal's the author, member of the committee on this, President Danger China, and senior fellow at the Discovery Institute. Thank you, Scott, appreciated, God bless my friend. Thank you Bill. We call ourselves Asap Travel for one reason. We can help you book a ticket asap. For those of you that don't know, that means as soon as possible. That means no wait time, you get through right away, no searching online. Our specialty is the lowest available fairs on the big name airlines.

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1:24:35 Nutrition for Patriots. Hey, we're back with you. Glad you could join us. Bill Martinez here with my good friend doctor Alex McFarlane. Alex, good to see you. Look awesome. Good to see you, my dear brother. How have you been. Hey been really good. Both of us been traveling a bit. I just got back from the Hawaii in Maui, uh Lahina especially we were there. Of course, they're recovering still from the fire of three years ago. I remember, you know, so it was quite uh you know, quite the vacation, A great time with the grandkids and and the daughter unit and everything, and so we had a great time.

1:25:18 So did you go surfing? Uh? I know I didn't surf, you know, I just uh uh but uh, you know, just time with family. You know. I'm not not much of a surfer actually, so I used to be when I was younger. But yeah, yeah, now does memory serve me? Did you grow up in California? Yes, I grew up in California. Right Were you near the beach, right next to it? Yeah? Absolutely, that's when I when I was younger. You know, I did the board, and you know, we did all the you know, beach boys music and everything else that came along with it. You know. So we we fit right in, right into the culture. You know. So can you see what I'm holding up? Uh? Yes, a guitar pick. I see what's on it?

1:26:00 Well, there's nothing on it right now. It was a Jim Dunlop guitar pick. But I was it wasn't quite as nice as Hawaii, I don't suppose, But I was in Florida this week. We had our sixth of eight summer youth camps. We for twenty eight years we've done summer camps. We didn't do twenty twenty that was COVID, But every year for the last twenty eight years we've done well. It's really biblical worldview Bill and we have about fifteen hundred teenagers every summer, and we talk about Jesus and what it means to be a Christian, but we talk about America. But I was down there in Florida and we rented a Christian camp down there. We had one hundred teenagers and a couple of dozen adults.

1:26:48 But we were on the Gulf of America, yes exactly. You know, you gotta put your hand over your heart when you say that Golf of America, the golf. You know, it surprised me because there are surfable waves down there. You know, I just figured it was this, you know, And I have to confess I'd never really been up close to the Gulf of America before. But man, they have waves at like Panama City Beach and all that, they really have waves. It's a beautiful area. It's just really super We've stayed there, you know, several times, you know, since we've been official Floridians, you know, for the last fourteen years. Now, yeah, it's gorgeous.

1:27:32 It's a nice, nice getaway. But for you to get away with these kids, you know, touches my heart, especially when you're focusing on these young people and talking about a biblical worldview. You know, that's my heart. You know, Well, listen to this Bill, you'll appreciate this. Now. At the Florida camp this week, we had about two dozen kids pray to accept Christ and put their faith in the Lord Jesus. Many of the kids have come for two and three summers and we we kind of do a deep dive on the evidence for the Bible, the evidence for Christianity, but we talk a lot about America and in many of our camps we've had like David Barton on Zoom or Bill Federer, and these kids are so hungry. Last fall, the first weekend of November, check this out. We had oh, I don't know, fifteen hundred kids in eight youth camps last summer. But we did a big end of year fling. In my home state of North Carolina, there's a Christian camp called Fort Caswell and just coincidentally, it was the seventy fifth anniversary of Fort Caswell Well, we had two thousand teens come for a weekend of theology, apologetics, worldview. And not only did Fort Caswell say it was the biggest event in their seventy five year history, it was the biggest end of year retreat that I've ever put on. And my

1:29:06 point is, and this summer is no different. There is such a spiritual hunger. There is just an enthusiasm for truth. And we don't beat around the bush. We talk. The Bible is the word of God. Jesus Christ is the risen Savior. America is the greatest nation in the history of the world worth loving and caring about. And it's just a blessing. Bill. I think you especially would be encouraged to see middle school, high school, and college students that are like, yeah, you give them truth and they are so enthusiastic. And I just got to say this as we were saying our goodbyes this morning to this camp kids, urban, rural, every ethnicity represented, and saying to I and my staff, thank you, thank you for respecting that we have a mind talking to us intelligently and we're going to stay with the stuff.

1:30:11 And so I mean, I am so encouraged. Well, it's consistent with everything that I've been hearing, Alex. I think the last time you and I talked, we talked about these potential you know, revival bonfires that were happening, you know, and it's just a matter of time before they connect, and there's this conflagration that takes place from coast to coast because you know, as Charles Finny would say, revivals happen when they're most needed. And of course every revival is preceded by repentance. And what you guys do is you hold up the truth of God, and you know, something even as simple as the Ten Commandments, I mean, God gave us the Ten Commandments so that we would measure ourselves, you know, before we would wreck ourselves. And when you measure yourself again the ten Commandments, as basic as they sound, you realize, Man, I've really blown it.

1:31:05 I mean, maybe I didn't murder somebody, or maybe I didn't necessarily you know, covet somebody's wife, but you know, probably seven eight of the others I may have violated, you know, along the way, and certainly in my relationship with God, because you know, at times early on, you know, I was somewhat casual. You know, I didn't honor the God. I didn't honor God in the manner in which he prescribed that I should honor him. And you know, I didn't maybe necessarily fall victim to you know, maybe a false God. But then again, you know, I think about it and say, oh, maybe I did. You know, maybe maybe by delving into something as innocuous or seemingly so innocent as a horoscope or something like that, realizing that things like that offend God. When you start looking at, you know, the standards that the Ten Commandments put up, you realize, if you spend any time with it, is that, Wow, I'm I really fall short here. I'm a sinful person. Yeah.

1:32:06 I mean, you know, let's be honest. We as human beings, we know the right, but we do the wrong. You know. I was a little bitty kid and I remember kind of you know, smarting off at my mom and dad, and I felt bad about it. And I want to say this cognizance of one's guilt is a good thing. You know. I realized that secularism and psychology is very often all about self esteem. But there are times, you know, as Mark Twain said, humans are the only animal that can blush, but really. The only one that needs to yes.

1:32:47 And I remember as a little kid, I told my mother a lie, and I just had this crushing sense of guilt and I went to her and I apologize, and of course she knew it. You know, Mom's have of you know, Radar. But the thing is, when we sense guilt and we want a clear conscience again and we want to make right, Bill, I believe that's the Holy Spirit of God calling to us. Absolutely. It's not the world, the flesh, or the devil that evil triumvirate. And so if we're thinking, you know, I've done wrong, I need to get it straight, God, please forgive me, that's the Holy Spirit calling out to us right.

1:33:35 Well, you know, like in the Book of Genesis, I love the first verse, you know, because the first in between the first second verse, there's just so much theology in there, and particularly about how the Holy Spirit hovers over the chaos. And I believe that that's a constant work of the Holy Spirit. Just as you said, when we sin, we enter into chaos, and it's the Holy Spirit that's hover over us to bring us back. You know, the spirit of God is confronting us in order to connect. And and there's just something so spiritual and miraculous in that breakdown of connection that disturbs us. Right, there's a disruption, you can say in Star Wars terms, there's a disruption in the force. And of course, and that disruption is our own sin. And God is hovering over that, over that chaos to bring order. That is necessary. That is part of our makeup, it's part of our DNA. It's the way we've been designed. Let's go to quick break.

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1:39:44 Right right, Yeah, this is in well really John fourteen through seventeen, and especially about the coming of the Holy Spirit or the sending of the Word is Paraclet, the one who comes along side. That's in John fifteen and sixteen. But you know what's so beautiful that John fourteen, Christ is on his way to the cross. He says, in my father's house are many mansions. If I go and I prepare place for you, I will come again and receive you under myself that where I am you may be. Also, that's one of Christ's great promises to all believers. And Bill, I get this question. Especially we've done a lot of media tours since the book on Prophecy that I wrote a few months ago, and I've had more than a few journalists ask me, do you really believe Jesus Christ is coming back? Bill Martinez, I really believe that Jesus is coming back. In the Book of Acts, which is kind of the history book of the early Church, Christ has risen and Peter preached at Pentecost, but Jesus ascended to heaven and in Acts one verse eleven says this same Jesus will one day return in like manner. Now we're in a period of history, Bill, Sometimes it's called the Church Age, sometimes it's called the times of the Gentiles.

1:41:14 But the Holy Spirit is in the world, working drawing people to Christ, drawing wayward Christians back to Christ. I know there's a lot going on, certainly in the Middle East, and there's just violence and instability. The Western world, as we have deviated from and at times suppressed our moral knowledge, there's violence and lawlessness. But Bill, can you imagine if the Holy Spirit's restraining power were removed. I mean, this world would be chaotic and apocalyptic anarchy in just a moment.

1:41:58 And so Christ said to the disciples in John fifteen sixteen, it is to your benefit that I go away, because I will send another, the helper, the comforter, who will convict the world of sin. Some translations say convince the world of sin and then draw all people to me. So I want to say to everybody watching, well, I became a Christian when I was twenty one years old. I was in college. But when you understand that you're a sinner and we've known the right, we've done the wrong, no sin will be in heaven. James two verse ten says, if we offend in one point, we're guilty of breaking all of God's.

1:42:43 Law, all of them. Yep, exactly, So sinners need forgiveness. Well, if you're even thinking about getting straight with God, who loves you, that's the Holy Spirit drawing you. I mean, it's not our fallen nature that desires God. I have a little saying, Bill, we tell that youth. I tell everybody Jesus is as close by as a prayer. Bill. I fully believe. I know it by experience. I know it from scripture when a person calls out to Christ and says, Lord, I am sorry for my sins. But I believe that you died on the cross from me and Jesus. I believe you rose from the dead for me. Lord, I'm accepting you as my forgiver and my leader. Dear Jesus, please save me. Whoever's watching. Look, whatever you've done, Christ will forgive it. If you ask him, whatever's been done to you, he can heal it. And I just believe.

1:43:47 And you and I are both politicos, but I'm going to tell you what would fix this nation in a moment is just a turning to Christ, a big old dosage. Jesus would save this nation. Bill right one hundred percent. I mean, here we are on our two hundred and fiftieth anniversary and celebration of our independence and a lot to celebrate. You know, we just had the World Cup. It was interesting, alex Is that we had all these people from Europe coming in and lotting the praises of America and saying, boy, they lie to us. You know the Americans are you know, they're good people. It was almost like God shot out a bunch of the Tokaville's in the modern era into America to remind Americans how exceptional and how great we are.

1:44:38 But it's just it's nothing more than the people that at the very heart of most Americans. You know, we're good, you know, and that's what they're going back home to Europe and saying, hey, you know, these people are good. Plus on top of that, they have air conditioning and they have ice. I keep telling everybody, you know, yeah, yeah, you know, some good attributes there. But you know, for the most part, you know, we are a nation founded under God, and I believe that we still are influenced by that mantle. It may not be real obvious right now because of the divide that's taking place, but that's okay. Contrast brings about clarity and brings back knowledge. If you don't, you know, close your mind off to the movement of the Holy Spirit and close your mind off to truth, if you silo yourself and you become like so many of the modern philosophers of the day that are doing they're doing such with an atheistic mindset, with a an ignorance of God, then you know, you are going to render yourself as as one person has said, you know you're going to render yourself stupid.

1:45:49 Oh yeah, you know. I read an article. It lifted my heart when all the World Cup, you know, was going on, and yeah, more than a few were in the news expressing their surprising appreciation for America, their love for America. I was on an airplane coming out of DFW Dallas Fort Worth, and I actually was on a plane with some of the soccer players and they were like, had armloads of American souvenirs. But I wrote an article bill right at July fourth, and it got put on townhall dot com and Daily Wire. I asked the question, does the rest of the world care more about America than Americans. And I thought about this, You've traveled, I've traveled.

1:46:43 Is no matter where you go. I mean, for example, if you're in Japan, Elvis Presley music is on the speakers of jukeboxes in diners. And there are muscle car clubs in Germany that American muscle as the Dodge, the Mustangs, the Camaros. In Brazil, you know McDonald's, and the Golden Arches are everywhere. In South Korea, vintage Hollywood posters decorate cafes. So here's my point. You know, nowhere in the world do they long for an imagined Golden Age of Belgium or Thailand or Argentina. Isn't it amazing how American pop culture and America the the the machinery of American nostalgia, from KFC Chicken to the Golden Arches to Marilyn Monroe.

1:47:46 It's all over the world. And there's something about America at her best that the whole wide world seems to pine for. Isn't that amazing? You ever thought about that? And yet the people that seem to care least about America right now are the Americans. Well, it would seem that way because the propaganda machine and apparatrick of the mainstream media would want us to believe that. I was just talking with someone here recently who you know, he's he's in Germany and he's born German, and I said, look, it's the same thing that happened.

1:48:28 You know, during World War Two. It was a small percentage, only ten percent of the Germans really supported Nazism. Ninety percent just kind of held their head down, hoped that Adolf Hitler wasn't coming after them next, and they were just going along to you know, get along. And this is the same thing we have here in America today, is that people have become you know, a bit apathetic, and they're busy about their own business, and you know, they see some of this crazy stuff going on in New York, like with Mom Donnie and some these other states. You know, that's very dangerous that here we are there we become you know, I say, it's not about the Republicans or Democrats anymore. It's about either your American or you're anti American. That's the divide.

1:49:12 Yeah, uh, well said, Well said, you know, it was funny whether I'm on a panel discussion or doing open mic Q and A. Look, I do open Q and A with grown ups with middle schoolers right away, People of all ages are cognizant of the fact there are those that care about our nation. There are those that despise and denigrate and demean our nation. You're and like you said, I mean, it's not so much, although I do want to circle back to this, but it's not so much Republican or Democrat. It's are you for our America or are you anti American?

1:49:58 Exactly. Now, I was at a con for instance, to a week ago, and you know, during a Q and AS, it's always like a middle aged, upper middle class Caucasian that's liberal, you know, And I don't mean to generalize too much, but it's like, upper middle class Americans are the ones that, like an upper middle class Caucasian, secular, college educated female that's going to be the angry, woke liberal. And I'm reminded of Dennis Prager who said socialism spends the money that capitalism generates.

1:50:40 Right. So socialism is a host is a parasite on a host. The parasite is socialism entitlement, government, largesse and waste. The host that is being blood dry are we hardworking, tax paying Americans that just we love our constitutional republic and we don't want to see it become a globalist, Marxist police state. Even Vladimir Lennen over one hundred years ago said that socialism is the doorway to communism exactly. And I can tell you this, the light it doesn't take long for the light bulb to come on these these sixth seventh graders, middle school and high schoolers, when they understand what socialism is, they want no part of it.

1:51:33 Because what are the first words a lot of these young kids say out of their mouths. It's not fair, that's not fair, exactly. Yeah. And so so here's the thing. You know, William Bradford in one of the early Pilgrim colonies, at first, they you know, because they were all Christians. They came here from the Netherlands, they were children of the Reformation in the sixteen hundreds, the Reformation having begun in Europe in fifteen seventeen. And at first it was like, okay, everybody gets everything provided housing, food. Well, Bradford realized something that the founders realized, and we can talk about this from the Federalist papers. There is this thing that socialism and the Utopians overlook and that thing is human nature. If somebody doesn't have to work, they're not going to work.

1:52:34 If things will be handed for free, people will receive it. And so Bradford realized very quickly in the Pilgrim Colony that look, there were the givers and the takers, and so what he did it was genius to give everybody the incentive and the initiative. It was called private property ownership. And the good news is you have your own land and you're in place. The bad news is bad news. If you're lazy, you want a garden, you got to get up and dig it. You want food, you have to, as God told Adam by the sweat of your brow, you have to work. You know, for so many people at w r K, it is that kryptonite, It is that four letter word.

1:53:25 Bill. I think vocation and work is a blessing from God. We got to leave it there for now. Doctor Alex McFarland's always just an honor to have you on the show and look forward to continuing the conversation. Alex is authored or co authored more than twenty one books. He co hosts Exploring the Word with theologian Bert Harbor, a veteran co host of the nationally syndicated broadcast exploring the word thanks Alex is always appreciated. Take care, God, bless you, bill. Thank you. Everything is expensive right now, da food, you name it. You're spending more, you are making the same or less money. So what do you do?

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