June 15, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 06 15 26

The Bill Martinez Show 06 15 26
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The Bill Martinez Show 06 15 26
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Are you ready? Yeah, okay, let's do it.

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Ill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez, Hey.

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Good morning, Welcome six minutes half top of the hour.

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Right now, I'm Bill Martinez. Josh has to join us

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with JNS. He is the Middle East correspondent live from Israel. Josh, welcome,

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good to have you with us.

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Shuldon, my friend Chalon, thanks for having me back.

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All right, let's let's give an update to the folks

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here in America as to all that's going on in

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the Middle East. You know, still the bombs coming into Israel.

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Right, Yeah, there are missiles being launched, missiles and rockets

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and mortars and drones being launched by the fsabeal terrorist organization.

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In Lebanon, the Prime minister, Prime Mister Nataniao just got

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done with a statement actually right now, saying that he

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wants peace with Lebanon, with the lean Lebanese people. This

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wars and with them, it's with Lisba who's holding them,

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hostage them on the front lines. Shooting of course from

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Christian villages into Israel, Shooting in homes and in mosques

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and in schools, that's their modus operende, if you will,

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and I just should let you know right now, I'm

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literally right this second, getting information right now indicating that

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there are explosions right now in Iran. Unconfirmed, but I

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do see plumes of smoke in Iran. And just a

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few minutes ago, I don't know if you heard the news,

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President Trump telling everyone to turn the televisions on that

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the US would be striking in Iran again. So I

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believe that the beginning of that is happening right now

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as we are here speaking together.

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So you're thinking maybe negotiations are over, Josh, it's.

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Really hard to say, Bill.

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I mean, every single day you see what the President

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posts on truth social and then you see, you know,

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we had a twelve hour war, if you will, just

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Sunday and Monday here in Israel where Israel struck Isabella

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targets in the Bay Root area. Iran then turned around

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and struck Israel. Israel fired back at Iran. We had

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that twelve hour war there. Fast forward to there we

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are now Wednesday night, and you know, the President on

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one hand said turn on your TVs, We're going to

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strike Iran again, and on the other hand, he still

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says that there is hope for negotiations. So I don't

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know what's happening behind the scenes. I can't tell you

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what's going on in the White House, right I'm confident

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that our Prime Minister in the Tanyao and the President

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are still you know, there's no real daylight between the two,

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even though they may disagree on certain issues. I'm really

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hoping behind the scenes they're working closely together, strongly together,

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and this is all part of a strategy. And we

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need to finish Iran, we really do. We can't pass

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this problem on to the next generation.

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Well, you can't finish Iran with a just unified United

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States and Israel. Regardless, there may be different strategies as

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to you know, in a reach the objective here, but

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certainly Israel is the one that's more closely threatened than

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the United States. And I think most most Americans that

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are pro Israel understand that, and we're supporting Israel and

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Benjamin and yahou We question sometimes the President getting involved.

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There's been a long history of you know, White House

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interference with foreign policy with Israel, and it doesn't fare well,

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you know, for the United States. So that's kind of

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a cautionary tale because this is well documented. When the

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United States interferes somehow of a you know, you might

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say a miraculous or a divine intervention. God has a

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way of getting the attention of the United States to

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say back off.

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Yeah, we'll take all the miracles we can get around here.

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But it's your point before. For sure, Israel is closer

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to Iran. I mean, Iran is fired not only at

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Israel but all the Gulf states who are bordering Iran.

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But at the same time, if you listen carefully to

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what the Iranian regime is saying and have been saying

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for the last forty seven years, they view Israel as

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the little Satan, but they view the United States as

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a big Satan. So while you may be oceans apart

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physically from Iran, that being said, we've seen them hit

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Western Europe even during the last war recently a few

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months ago. You have to make sure that the ideology calls.

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And I saw it on Israeli TV last night in

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the streets of Tehran, death to Israel, Death the United States.

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Those protesters out there, it's hard to tell a number

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one how many are they, and if the regime is

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forcing them to go out and protest for the regime.

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We know a lot of the Uranian people don't want

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the regime there anymore. But it's important to remember to

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your for your audience to remember that the United States

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is viewed as the big Satan, the great Satan, and

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they've been saying that for a long time now.

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Well, Josh, to your point, we've had several attacks from

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people who are sympathetic to the cause in Iran and

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have said as much in a manifesto. And so you know,

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are there sleeper cells, Are there other antagon within the

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country quite likely, especially with the open border experience who

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went through with four years.

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Under Joe Biden.

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God only knows, And probably so many other things have

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been diffused because you know, the FBI and local officials

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have been pretty vigilant. But all it takes is one

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And I think that America is not trying to fool themselves,

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but the media is not helping us out either to

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realize that, you know, there is a clear and present

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danger amongst us.

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Yeah.

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Absolutely, Unfortunately, the mainstream media has it wrong on so

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many occasions. And you see the frustration of the president.

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I saw him walk off.

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I think it was NBC he was speaking to several

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days ago. Right, he got up and left. And you know,

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this has been the case, whether it's the media, whether

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it's the late night talk show hosts in the United States,

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very much against the president, very much against a conservative,

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Judeo Christian valued policy, which is what we've been seeing

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from the president from his first term. When you move

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the embassy from Telief to Jerusalem, doing the right thing there.

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Oh, that was going to cause World War three, Josh, that's.

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What they said, right, And we're still here. We're still here,

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We're still here.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah. The media definitely is an issue.

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So you know, Hasbela was kind of quiet there for

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a minute, and of course you know they're raising their

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heads and sending missiles into Israel. Again, is the IRGC,

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you know, pushing that lever. I mean, somehow they want

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to be consequential because they weren't even brought up in

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the initial conversation, and then all of a sudden, negotiations

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were saying no, no, no, no no. Hasbela has to

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be included as part of this, along with the Houthis

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and along with the you know, Hamas and the Gaza.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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I mean we have to remember Hasbala is an Iranian proxy.

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They receive their financial support, military support, financial support and

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all that from Iran. So Iran has tried to create

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a reality in which they draw Hasbala into the conflict,

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used them basically as pawns more or less the fire,

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and they're happy to do it. Lisbala fire against the

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State of Israel and then then say to the world

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through these negotiations, no, Lebanon Kazbala has to be included

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in the deal, using that basically as an excuse. If

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they're not part of the deal, then we'll continue this

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belligerent behavior and all that. So it's definitely part of

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their strategy. They're using Lisbella because they're much closer, they're

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on the front lines, and people have to understand that

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they are now firing on northern Israel each and every day,

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nearly hour by hour. As President Trump said, I think

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it was last week he said something, well, the ceasefire

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is a little bit different in the Middle East. It

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means that we're firing. Yeah, you're firing moderately. That's the case,

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and Israel reserves the right to fight back against Lisbalala,

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who are threatening the residents of northern Israel. Yesterday you

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had a terrorist from looks like from Hosabela actually cross

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the border into Israel, and thank god he was taken

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out by the brave men and women of the IDEA

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if they are on the border. But even right now,

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I'm seeing reports as we're talking about the situation and

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in northern Israel, the IDEF taking Outcasbola positions. It's reporting

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here missile silos and whatnot. But it's still very much

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an active warfront in northern Israel.

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What's the situation there with Lebanon.

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We were hearing that the Lebanese were getting very cranky

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and irritated with Hesbelah. It's like, you know, what good

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are you doing for us? You know, we just want

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to be peaceful neighbors. And I see this maybe as

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maybe a crack and a chink in the armor here,

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possibly along with what's going on in Iran. You got

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ninety million people there going now, we don't want this either,

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and here we are, we're starving to death, inflation through

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you know, through the roof and everything that's going on.

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Same thing with Hamas down there at the Gaza that

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where reasonable people might give rise. Josh, I mean, this

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is my prayer that they would give rise and have

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what it takes to throw the bums out.

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So yeah, I would hope, so Bilbt, I'll explain why.

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I'll tell you what I want you to do that.

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On the other side, let's go to a quick break and

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we'll give you plenty of time to do that.

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Okay, all right, more from Josh after this stay with us.

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hey we're back with.

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You Josh, haston The Middle east correspondent FOR jans continuous with.

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Us, josh you're starting.

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To, explain you, know this dynamic of the unrest in

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these three you know, areas dynamic areas that could explode

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one way or.

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Another, Right, yeah, Absolutely and you asked About. Fasibala i'll

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tell you what the real problem is. There, well first of,

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all as you point, out the people that have had,

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enough they don't Want cosbala. There the government doesn't Want hasbala.

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There but the real, problem in my opinion, is you,

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know The lebanese. Army you could have a family living

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in Southern, lebanon let's say A Shia muslim family and one,

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brother one of the, sons let's, say is a member

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of The lebanese army and then you have another brother

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who is a member Of, Kasbala so what are you gonna?

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Do or you could expect the, army the army chief

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if you, will to take out his. Brother so that's

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really the problem That kazbala for years has embedded themselves

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within the. Society they were accepted for many many. Years

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they became part of the. Army so it's very tricky

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there to ask The lebanese army.

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To go ahead and take Out.

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Casbala you, know they were supposed to do this all

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the way back in two thousand and. Six they were

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supposed to reign In cosbela after The Second Lebanon, war

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and here we are literally twenty years later and they haven't.

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Done so there was encouraging remarks the other day from

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The president Of lebanon indicating he's had Enough. Casbala but

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do they have the power in order to dismay until

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that terrorist, ORGANIZATION i don't know what remains to be.

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Seen at the same, time as you, Said ramas still

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trying to pop their head up down there In. Gaza

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the idea of actually took, out the Chief ramas money,

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man the, financier if you, all the guy responsible for

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all the cash that goes To. Hamas him and his

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deputy were taken out and a precision idea of strike

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here just.

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Yesterday so that front is still.

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Active you do have idea of troops in about between

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fifty three and sixty percent Of gaza right. Now The

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Prime minister said he wants to increase that to seventy.

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Percent but you, know you.

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Haven't heard a lot About hamas Or gaza in the,

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news but it's still very much an active. Front an

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idea of presence, there an idea of presence in The

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north and In, syria and of course what's going on With.

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Iran so we're still in this war even though you

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have all these pauses and ceasefires and. Negotiations but you,

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know the idea of still on many fronts protecting, us

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the brave idea of each and every.

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Day, yeah without without a. Doubt and what about The.

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Houthis, yeah The.

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Huthi so every once in a while The houthis will

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their heads up. Again we have to remember they're in all,

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seriousness they are in rainy and.

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Proxy they take their orders From.

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Tehran so you had the other day On monday, morning

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we had a rude awakening here at six am when

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The houthis decided that they were going to fire a

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ballistic missile towards the state Of, israel which was. Intercepted

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and you had the next day On tuesday, morning yesterday,

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morning The huthis once again firing a one of these

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drones towards our southern coastal town of A. Lot so

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they are trying to remain. Relevant it would not surprise

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me If israel decided once again to strike, them perhaps

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along With iran And kazbala and all the other fronts

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that are going. On but, yeah they're trying to remain.

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Relevant for years they were firing Against Saudi. Arabia now

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they've turned their missiles Against, israel as they have now

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FOR i don't, KNOW i think it's been a, year

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if not. Longer and they're like an annoying little flea

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or a tick that really tries to get under your.

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Skin But israel will have to deal with, them because you,

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know as an knowing as they are and. Whatnot and

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everyone jokes around here, that, oh when The houthi's, fire

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you don't have to worry about.

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It, no you absolutely.

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Do it's still a blistic, missile still headed towards, you

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and they'd like to murder israelis like to Murder, jews

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just Like iran because they are An iranian, proxy right.

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Exactly and the thing, is you, know here in The,

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west SOMETIMES i think people are a bit naive because they're,

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focusing you, know primarily On.

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Iran But, iran you Got, iran and then you have

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all these proxies involved, too so there has to be

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a total dismantling of that entire, network, right.

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job over the last two and a half. Years just

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remember where we were before The october seventh massacre And,

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gaza and where we are. Now you have a completely

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changed situation In. Syria you have a vastly week In,

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kazbala In, lebanon a week In. Iran hamas nearly. Obliterated

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they're still, there but so, much you, know so much

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has changed down In. Gaza so effective on all these.

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Fronts unfortunately it's not finished on all these. Fronts it's

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taking a long. Time The Prime minister, said from the get,

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go this is going to take a long. Time it's

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not going to happen, overnight and you know the next

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week could recruise it, there especially With iran because they

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are the head of the octopus with their tentacles spread.

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All over the midd least and all over the.

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World you, know they've carried out in mass murder In South,

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america in The United states And levin, Uncertainly so we

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have to take we have to take them. Seriously and

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and Really iran is the number one. Target it has

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to be because they're the ones pulling the strings behind

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behind all these other.

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Organizations, Well, JOSH i got to tell, you you, know

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being a man Of god's, WORD i look into What

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god has to say About israel and the future Of,

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israel and there is a time coming that there will

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be no walls and That israel will find that long wanted.

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Peace for a period of. Time AND i just see

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this as just.

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Me Maybe i'm overly, optimistic and you, Know i'm just

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very prayerful about. It THEN i believe that this could

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be the lynchpin that gets us down the timeline of

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where you, Know god has always Intended israel to.

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Be, yeah, absolutely people have to remember you, know this

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didn't start. Yesterday this didn't start On october seventh or

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in nineteen forty. Eight this is going on being going

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on for a very very long.

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Time thousands of, years right.

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Years ever since the people of the nation Of israel

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was down In. Egypt you had the first you can

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call it the first Anti semitic act by The, pharaohs

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who enslaved the people Of israel and said he wanted

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to throw all The jewish, sons all The jewish boys

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into The. Nile so we'ven't seen this for thousands of.

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Years if this is you, know this war with The

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iran and the situation today is you, know the, storm let's,

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say before the, calm then, yes that would be. UNBELIEVABLE i,

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MEAN i definitely feel being here that we are truly

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in historic, times and you, know in biblical times you go.

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Forward and just one other POINT i want to make you,

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know in terms of the situation practically, Speaking israelis would

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not mind another.

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Thirty days in the bomb.

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Shelters i've said it many times and Other israelis feel

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the same.

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Way as long as we take care Of iran.

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Once and for, all we'll keep running down to the

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bomb shelters over, here no, problem twenty, days thirty, days,

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forty whatever it. Takes AS i said, before we don't

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want to pass the situation down to our children and,

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grandchildren especially With iran ultimately wanting to procure a nuclear,

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weapon that's their.

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Right we cannot let that.

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Happen, well and we said early, On josh that they

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may not themselves be able to develop a nuclear, Weapon but.

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You just said, something you said.

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Procure that is a remaining possibility that they could procure

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a nuclear weapon by other.

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Means, yeah oh, absolutely you know that's still in the.

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Cards and you know they'll find if there is some

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sort of deal, signed they're for sure going to.

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Try to find a.

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Loophole AND i think The president understand, that you, know

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the deal isn't worth the paper it's written, on even

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though he wants peace and quiet for many many. REASONS

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i don't see In iran if this regime remains in,

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power just simply, existing not wanting to fulfill their. MISSION

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i know a lot of their leaders were taken, out.

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But iran is Still.

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Iran if the regime regime is still there where it's

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producing and procuring, whatever the situation IS i have no

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doubt that any agreement will be broken eventually By, iran

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whether in six months or six years down the. Road

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if these, people these, extremists jihadists who want to wipe

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Out israel in THE, us if they're still in, power

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AND i really believe at the end of the day

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that can't, happen they cannot remain.

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There, Well i've maintained that if you want to know

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what somebody's going to, do look what they've. Done so

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let me ask, you in the history Of, iran have

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they ever kept a promise.

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Just this, current this current.

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REGIME i, know you, know When prussia is, around you,

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know the king did Store. ISRAEL i get. That But

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i'm in the modern. Era has there ever been a

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promise that they've?

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Kept?

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NO i, mean but these people they don't even have

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the word piece as part of their.

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Lexicon there's no word that means. Peace you have.

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Hudna you have these different agreements in which they say

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there'll be a cease fire and they'll you, know hold

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off for a, bit but ultimate piece is not part

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of their.

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Lexicon it's just not a word that's in their.

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Vocabulary and the rainy, PEOPLE i believe the vast majority

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of The rainy people have had. Enough they realize that

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and they want this regime to go as, well you, know.

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To better their.

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Lives with the regime recently taking out their internet for sixty.

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Days and, yeah.

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That's just like the, first like the smallest. ITEM i,

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mean they massacred up to what forty thousand People.

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I've heard, Higher, yeah, exactly whatever it.

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Is but the, oppression the, discrimination the treatment of, women

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all the things that are, not you, know the antithesis

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Of western And Judeo christian, values and that is what

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the regime. Represents so, no to answer your, QUESTION i

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don't believe they've kept their word over the last forty

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seven years with. Anybody so we have to and the

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president knows that we have to take that into.

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Account thirty seconds, Left, josh The Abrahamic, accords what.

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Do you, think, yes, SIR i, mean at the end

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of the, DAY i really believe some of the other,

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countries Especially Saudi, arabia will seek a normalization deal with

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The state Of. Israel they've had enough of everything going,

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on and they recognize the threat That iran poses and

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they want to really be in the orbit Of. Israel THE,

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Uae bahrain and the others who see so much benefit

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STATE i Think Saudi arabia is, next.

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Samerica. John how you.

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Doing i'm doing, Well they'll Thank.

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HEY i got to tell, YOU i was so frustrated

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at the hearing the other day with you, know the

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head of THE, Splc Southern Poverty Law, Yeah Southern Property Law.

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CENTER i just couldn't believe their responses and and you,

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know and no, contrition no sense of, HEY i think

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maybe we messed. Up it's just Like i'm going to

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stick to my.

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Guns and IF i remember what the testimony was. About

556
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The Southern Poverty Law center has been has. Been it's

557
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been shown that they paid people to be members of the.

558
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Clan they paid for the, Hoods they paid for the

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crosses that they. Burned The Southern Poverty Law center organized

560
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The charlottesville, riot yes.

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Yeah Which trump is still paying for it to this.

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Day let me give a little history about The Southern

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Poverty Law center and it'll make more sense what they're.

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Doing they were started by this s, Guy Marris d's

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as a group Called Clan, watch and their job was

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to monitor and expose the activities of the Klu Klux.

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Klan that sounds, good, Right the problem is The klan

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has been in terminal decline for forty years and at

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a certain, POINT i think in the late seventies or early,

570
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eighties there wasn't much plan to, watch so they rebranded

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themselves as The Southern Poverty Law. Center but basically their

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stick is to find any kind of white, ring right

573
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wing or racist crank that, exists typically with no. Influence

574
00:29:05.359 --> 00:29:10.400
probably half the members ARE fbi, informants do alarmist reports

575
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about it and send it out to a database largely

576
00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:19.960
of Older jewish people who maybe remember the liberation of

577
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The nazi death, camps and to try to equate anybody

578
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who says something racist With nazi. Concentration campguards so they

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can shake people down for massive. Donations they built this

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huge building that could that cynics called The Poverty. Palace

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the organization has been known to be, corrupt even by

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people on the. Left it's one of those groups that

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say out steer away from. That it's basically a shakedown. Scam,

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well as there were fewer and fewer genuine right wing,

585
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extremists the demand for white racism became started to outpace the.

586
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Supply Southern Barbarity Law center was going to start losing.

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00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:04.680
Money it's, like imagine you have a fire, department but

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you're In alaska and everything is icy and nothing really.

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Burns so they started so in order to raise money

590
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for the fire, department he started paying arsonists to go

591
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set fires to create the illusion of dangerous white nationalist

592
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extremism and anti. Semitism, meanwhile they don't Condemn muslim groups

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which are viciously Anti. Semitic those get a. Pass it's only,

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things only groups that don't fit in The Democratic party.

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Coalition The Southern Poverty Law center. IS i think they

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come out and Defended Graham platner In, maine the guy

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with The nazi.

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Tattoo, yeah. Exactly, yeah, yeah it's it's it's.

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Incredible but of, course exactly what you pointed, out and

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this is what people need to, understand is THE splc

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has become an operating arm of The Democratic party.

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Right, uh in order it's used, furthermore beyond funding genuine

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right wing, extremists of whom there are, few they started

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lumping in all sorts of, groups pro life, groups pro marriage,

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groups our friends at The Ruth, postitute The Ruth, institute

606
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which is A catholic run pro family, apostle because it

607
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opposes transgender indoctrination in, schools it got listed as a hate.

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Group and there have been left wing terrorists who looked

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at The Southern Poverty Law center's hate map and went

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and attacked members of those GROUPS i think focus on

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With Family Research.

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Council Family Research council was attacked exactly.

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As attacked by someone who said he saw it on

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The Southern Poverty Law center hate, map which again does

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not include mosques that raise money for hamas they're not,

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included but homeschooling, groups libs Of, TikTok moms For. Liberty,

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again it fits in with what The Democratic party, does

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What biden tried to do in. Office who was his attorney? General,

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garnet the guy they tried.

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To appoint this that's, right, right, yeah the one they

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tried to put on The Supreme. Court Merrick.

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Garland Merrick garland got a complaint from a left wing

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teachers union organization ABOUT pta moms who didn't want transgender

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adject prop and porn in grammar school. Libraries they THEY i,

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think manufactured one death. THREAT i don't think it was even,

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real and they used it to say all groups that

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oppose transgender and doctrination in schools are domestic extremists who

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should be treated like. Terrorists the Same BIDEN doj that

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SENT fbi agents to infiltrate pro life groups And latin mass. Communities,

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again because if this is the left's, tactic is everybody

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Remembers World War, two The nazis and the death. Camps

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that's the. One the foundation of our civics After World

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War two and especially after The civil rights movement is

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anything that you can link to The, nazis however tenuously is.

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Evil so In germany they don't even their Anti nazi

636
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indoctrination has been so extreme That germans won't bring their

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own national flag of The democratic you, Know Federal republic Of.

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Germany they won't bring it to soccer. Games, patriotism ordinary

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patriotism is actively branded as A nazi attribute In, germany

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but in large parts Of. Europe in, fact if you

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looked at the leaders who Defeated, Hitler churchill To Gaul,

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truman they would all count as right wing extremists and

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be labeled As nazi in Today's europe and by Today's Democratic.

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Party in other, words they'd redefined the far right to

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include All hitler's most passionate. Enemies the people who defeated

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him are lump together as the far. Right if you

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talk about, immigration you are, well The nazis opposed. Immigration,

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Okay hitler is a. Vegetarian are we going to say

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that that leads to The? Holocaust so what they've done

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is they've cheapened and degraded the genuine tragedy of The

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holocaust and put it as a weapon in the hands

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of the radical, left which is becoming increasingly Anti. Semitic

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so it's completely, incoherent, hysterical moralistic abuse of a, genuine,

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historic monstrous.

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Crime.

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John what's happened, really think about this is that here

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in The, west we've. EXCHANGED i, mean just like they

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did In, europe where you had religious people and churches

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surrendering The bible and accepting The Communist. Manifesto and what's

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happened is it's spread here to The. West it's amazing

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to me if you break down The communist, manifesto how

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many attributes of that manifesto have been embraced over the

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last one hundred years here in The United. States it's

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no wonder the country is being overwhelmed with A marxist

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viewpoint because we have been embracing those, principles have been

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employing them in every aspect of our.

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Culture Pope.

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Leo Pope leo did it in his recent encyclical On.

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have if we want to Find, christ we have to

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look to the, marginalized the, rejected the unwanted. Migrants now

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that is the preferential option for the. Poor but that

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whoever has less money is, right whoever is officially weaker is.

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Right there's no abstract. Justice you just always have to

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look for who's the. Victim we're gonna label him a

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victim and he can do whatever he wants that was

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actually Create The Preferential option for The poor was a

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slogan created by THE kgb and smuggled The Latin america

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and it was adopted by church the bishops In Latin.

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America and now you're seeing it in people documents where class,

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warfare Basically marxist class warfare is. Baptized they throw holy

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water on it and call it the Preferential option for the,

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poor and it's just it Is marxist garbage that wealthy

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people use to gain political.

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Power, well you, know people have to wake, Up johan

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AND i don't know how much more of this we can,

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take because it's like we've been in a war and

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in a, revolution cultural revolution for, decades and you, know,

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conservatives Supposedly bible, believing you, Know christians in that have

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just been sitting on the, SIDELINES i, guess just waiting

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For jesus to, come or.

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Worse they've they've been convinced that white guilt is a

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replacement for the for the ethics Of Jesus. Christ white

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guilt is the new gospel Of. ANTICHRIST i might actually

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make that my next.

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Book, YEAH i think that's a good. Idea, Anyway well

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let's go to quick. Break we'll pick it up on

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the other. Side we get more from Doctor John zamerica

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after this stay WITH.

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went just through a whole list of people that they,

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paid for the gas for people to drive to. The

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shark let's feel rally that they turned into. A riot

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so we have to remember this.

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Is what the.

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like how many million illegal Immigrants did biden?

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Let in you could say fifteen. To twenty you know,

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they're right just wave.

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Them in almost four hundred thousand unaccompanied miners were lost

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in the in. The shuffle we don't know if they're being,

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sex trafficked if they're being used in, child porn or

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if they're working as slave laborers in. Factories somewhere they

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create the chaos and then they use our court system

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to fight tooth and nail every single attempt to. Deport

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illegals so they use the system, of justice the system

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of order to, create chaos and then when the chaos,

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becomes untenable that's when they will impose. A dictatorship it's

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a political tactic called a. NARCO tyranny a narco tyranny

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was Identified By sam francis back in the nineties anarchy,

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for me TYRANNY. FOR thee a, good Example The george.

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Floyd riots we were all locked in our homes and

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our churches, were closed but they got public health experts

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to say that racism is a threat to. Public health

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So The george floyd bryots. Were exempt we couldn't have in,

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person voting so they could do mail in ballots and,

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ballot harvesting so they could steal the twenty. Twenty election

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but you Could Have george. Floyd ryots but if you

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Had a trump rally that was a or a church,

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at service that was a super. Spreader, event. Yeah exactly

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so the rioters who burned down our cities didn't go.

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To prison, in fact some of them got judgments in

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court rewarding apologizing the police pay paying. Them off oh

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we're sorry we arrested you when you were burning down.

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Our city and Then the january sixth defendants were targeted

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and treated like terrorists for a non, violent behavior for

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showing up AT The us capitol and being welcomed in by.

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The police so the anarchy, for me TYRANNY. For thee

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and if you get away, with anarchy a, narco tyranny

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that's how you. Take power it was Literally the nazi

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playbook for. Taking Power the nazis would have their brown

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shirt thugs were getting, political fistfights beating Up the catholics

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And the socialists And. The communists they would all. Get

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arrested the judges who were sympathetic To the nazis would

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let them off with a slap on the wrists and

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send the other people to prison for defending themselves Against the.

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Nazi thugs that is How the nazis got control of

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the Streets, in germany so that by nineteen, thirty two

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if the army had tried to crack down, on them

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it would have been. Civil war so instead They let

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hitler into the cabinet and he. Took power the left

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is not Following The bolshevik russian playbook for, taking power

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it's Following the. Nazi playbook and we have to remember

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how Similar the nazis And the communists. Fundamentally were they

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were Both anti christian pseudo. Scientific movements one focused on

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the fake economic Determinism Of, karl ma the other focused

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on the fake biological determinism that they derived from the

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Works Of. Charles darwin so it was really just a

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War between Marx, and darwin both of whom Were anti,

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christian materialists mechanists who thought that the universe is just

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random particles whirling in.

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The, void yes that, Needed Cleansing.

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JOHN hitler i think it Was Actually joseph gibbels who

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said the best potential recruit For the nazis Were former

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communists because they were. So, similar, so really when you

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think Of the nazis And, the communists don't think of

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the right and. The left think of two, criminal Gangs

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the corleones And, the santuccies fighting to see who will

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control organized crime in.

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Their.

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City, yeah similar the same kind of people wearing slightly,

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different uniforms with very. Similar programs Both, anti semitic Both,

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anti christian both, anti family. Both totalitarian so it's served

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to think Of the nazis as the enemies Of. The

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communists they were the rivals Of, the communists and The

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00:46:06.599 --> 00:46:11.000
organization antipha was founded By The communist Party. In russia

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they sent It to germany as street thugs to compete With.

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00:46:14.960 --> 00:46:19.679
The nazis they stud they Still. Exist antifi imagine if

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00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:25.159
Theess the naziss still existed in continuity with the Originaless.

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That's antifa and they watched How the nazis Won, in

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germany and that's the playbook they're Using, in america And

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the democrats are cynically just. Enabling it they're perfectly happy

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00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:38.480
to arrive. The wave look at who they were willing

869
00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:44.800
to Nominate for Senate. In may, this misogynist domestic Domestic

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abuser graham platt or this sociopathic thug who said he

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00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:52.280
joined the army because he wanted to, kill people made

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00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:55.480
fun of, wounded veterans Had a, nazi tattoo which he

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00:46:55.559 --> 00:46:58.360
knew bloody well what. It Was the democrats are perfectly

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00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:01.519
willing to. Overlook Him Read, Jonathan turley he's a great.

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00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:05.000
Legal analyst he has a column out comparing how the

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00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:08.719
left is treating the Accusations Against graham platner with the

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way they did with the way they treated completely made

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up Accusations Against. Brett kavanaugh there's way. More evidence there

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was zero Evidence. Against kavanaugh there's a ton of Evidence.

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00:47:19.639 --> 00:47:23.159
Against platner and it's fun to watch so called feminists

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00:47:23.199 --> 00:47:28.679
who Rode the me two wave Justify Dismissing graham, platner

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beating twisting women's arms on their back and locking them.

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In rooms compared to the allegation that at some point

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in the, nineteen eighties at some party she Couldn't Identify

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00:47:41.760 --> 00:47:45.679
brett kavanaugh allegedly tried to. Rape her conveniently didn't provide

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a day to, or time so it was impossible.

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00:47:47.840 --> 00:47:51.519
To, disprove yeah but you had All these democrats saying

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you must.

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Believe. Her right have you ever Talked To?

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Mark?

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Judge, Yes Again mark Judge was he's the guy went

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00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:01.199
to high School. With kavanaugh i'm friends, with him and

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00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:03.840
he wrote a memoir about his high school days about

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being a drunk in high School. Called wasted that memoir

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was Used by Christine blazy ford's team of opposition researchers

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to create The, perjury bible the story bible for her

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perjury in front Of. The SENATE and i would really

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like to see her prosecuted. For perjury that would send

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00:48:21.679 --> 00:48:22.000
a really.

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Good message well that amazes me that here she got

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00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:27.079
away with all This, and john, you know they asked

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00:48:27.079 --> 00:48:30.920
her if she had anything to do with, you, Know, abortion, oh, no, no.

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00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:33.679
No whatsoever then you find out afterwards that she worked

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for an abortivation or do you.

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Work for the company That makes, mephesto prone which is

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one of the two vital ingredients in the. Abortion pill

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so and she. Said no her lawyer said that her

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testimony was motivated by a desire To keep.

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Roe v.

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Wade intact so you know someone who works for an,

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abortion company whose lawyer admits that she's trying to keep,

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00:48:54.840 --> 00:48:58.760
abortion legal but we're supposed to believe her totally. Uncorroborated,

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testimony meanwhile loads of Evidence Against. Graham Platner, the democrats nothing,

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00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:06.679
move along nothing to. See here we need to Control.

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00:49:06.719 --> 00:49:10.920
The senate and it's, amazing too because you Have, the democrats,

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00:49:11.400 --> 00:49:14.639
you know, making statements you know that the woman should,

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be heard she should, be leaved all, this stuff and

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00:49:18.480 --> 00:49:22.039
now here the tables, have turned and and, you know

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they're defending, the indefensible As if america is so stupid we.

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00:49:25.800 --> 00:49:28.679
Don't, remember well look look at all the black activists

921
00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:31.559
Complaining That carmelo anthony is going to go to prison

922
00:49:32.239 --> 00:49:35.679
for murdering a white teenager at a, track meet for

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00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:40.639
bringing a knife over to the opposing, team's tent, confronting

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them refusing, to leave and then when someone put a hand,

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00:49:44.320 --> 00:49:46.760
on him stabbing him in. The heart and that's supposed

926
00:49:46.800 --> 00:49:48.760
to be. Self defense and this is more evidence of.

927
00:49:48.840 --> 00:49:54.280
Institutionalized racism if this, is racism then we. Need more

928
00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:58.039
if punishing murderers is to be defined, as racism are

929
00:49:58.039 --> 00:49:59.480
you're going to find a lot of people willing to

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00:49:59.480 --> 00:50:01.480
sign Up for oh if, THAT'S racism I guess i

931
00:50:01.360 --> 00:50:03.719
want some more of IT because i just don't want

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00:50:03.719 --> 00:50:07.880
teenagers getting stabbed at. Track events and if it's racist to, oppose,

933
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:10.679
that well, YOU know i think you've really redefined the

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00:50:10.760 --> 00:50:11.199
term in a.

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Creative, way well and it's Always interesting john when that.

936
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Comes up then reverse. The, roles yeah what would it?

937
00:50:19.239 --> 00:50:22.559
Be like Imagine if america if All white americans had

938
00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:26.519
Rallied Behind derek chauvn After The george. Floyd, Death Now

939
00:50:26.800 --> 00:50:29.840
derek chauvn is nowhere near as Bad As, carmelo anthony

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00:50:29.960 --> 00:50:31.000
but he's probably going to stay in.

941
00:50:31.079 --> 00:50:35.199
Prison longer, oh yeah well he's a political pawn and all. This,

942
00:50:35.239 --> 00:50:37.239
stuff yeah what, they've done and the poor guy's BEEN

943
00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:39.639
shanked i don't know four or five times while he's been,

944
00:50:39.639 --> 00:50:43.239
In prison they've moved. HIM around, i mean, it's disgusting

945
00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:47.400
and that whole he is the scapegoat for.

946
00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:49.599
White guilt white guilt the new Religion.

947
00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:52.960
Of, antichrist well and you think about all the perjury

948
00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:56.559
that Took place john, during that, you know you know from,

949
00:50:56.599 --> 00:51:00.440
the chief the police chief, ON down I mean. Allison all,

950
00:51:00.920 --> 00:51:03.519
you know they just flat out lied in order to

951
00:51:03.599 --> 00:51:06.800
sacrifice this guy and run his life in. His career

952
00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:09.840
and he's, you know he's behind bars in. His life,

953
00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:11.519
you know he's on a razor's edge for.

954
00:51:11.559 --> 00:51:13.280
His, life yeah that's.

955
00:51:13.239 --> 00:51:16.159
What they Did To tommy Robinson. In Britain tommy robinson

956
00:51:16.159 --> 00:51:19.280
had never committed any, violent crime but they they they

957
00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:22.519
imprisoned him for terrorism because he wouldn't unlock his phone

958
00:51:23.000 --> 00:51:25.159
so that he can look at his. Personal contacts that

959
00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:27.800
was a that was deemed terrorism and he was put

960
00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:30.039
in a prison Full of muslims and he's known to

961
00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:32.639
be An anti. Muslim activist they were hoping he would die,

962
00:51:32.679 --> 00:51:35.760
in prison the way they Were Hoping tina peters would die.

963
00:51:35.800 --> 00:51:38.719
IN prison i have a Column About tina peters Over a,

964
00:51:38.800 --> 00:51:43.039
chronicles magazine comparing Her To, alfred Dreyfus The french jewish

965
00:51:43.079 --> 00:51:45.960
officer who was falsely accused of treason and Sent To.

966
00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:48.760
Devil's island they Were hoping Tina prison peters would die.

967
00:51:48.760 --> 00:51:53.000
In prison they really are willing to lie Sheep.

968
00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:56.639
Kill steeler it's just discussing and Speaking.

969
00:51:56.679 --> 00:51:59.079
OF europe, i mean look what happened With with novak,

970
00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:02.239
there Right and I'm gonna i'm gonna let you wrap

971
00:52:02.280 --> 00:52:02.519
it Up.

972
00:52:02.559 --> 00:52:05.559
WITH novaka a young man who was, who was who

973
00:52:05.639 --> 00:52:09.760
was stabbed By a sikh with a, ceremonial knife which

974
00:52:09.760 --> 00:52:11.599
they're allowed, to carry even though no one else can

975
00:52:11.639 --> 00:52:14.079
carry Knives. In britain you can't even carry pepper spray

976
00:52:14.320 --> 00:52:17.320
to protect yourself against the migrant rapists that the government.

977
00:52:17.400 --> 00:52:20.679
Keeps importing this young man led to death and the

978
00:52:20.719 --> 00:52:23.880
police handcuffed him because the guy who stabbed and said

979
00:52:23.880 --> 00:52:26.760
he used. Racist language so they handcuffed the bleeding guy

980
00:52:27.000 --> 00:52:29.119
and they let the. Other guy they let the. Assailant

981
00:52:29.199 --> 00:52:31.960
go now he's the assailant's finally going. To prison But

982
00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:37.719
the british people are. Thoroughly outraged And a sudanese migrant

983
00:52:38.159 --> 00:52:42.159
tried to behead a, young man a young Man Native,

984
00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:45.639
northern irish right in the middle of. The street Now

985
00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:49.519
The northern irish are. Fed up they are burning. REFUGEE

986
00:52:49.519 --> 00:52:52.559
hotels I think britain is on the, knife EDGE and

987
00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:55.559
i hope it. FALLS over i hope the government there

988
00:52:55.639 --> 00:53:00.039
collapses because it is currently a conspiracy to persecute and

989
00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:03.599
replace the native population with foreigners From The, third world

990
00:53:03.639 --> 00:53:06.400
who they regard as, reliable votes who they're willing to

991
00:53:06.400 --> 00:53:09.920
put on welfare for generation after generation. On welfare they're

992
00:53:09.960 --> 00:53:13.199
just being paid to terrorize the native population and to

993
00:53:13.320 --> 00:53:16.440
vote For. The left that government needs to be toppled

994
00:53:16.480 --> 00:53:16.960
by any.

995
00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:21.760
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1022
00:54:42.039 --> 00:54:45.679
Right Now bill martinez here with the Author Of Thomas.

1023
00:54:45.840 --> 00:54:49.400
Jefferson Survives francis cogliano.

1024
00:54:49.519 --> 00:54:51.960
Joins us He and peter is AN.

1025
00:54:51.800 --> 00:54:56.199
ONOF am i saying that, right yeah so he together

1026
00:54:56.320 --> 00:54:59.559
the co authors are giving us another Look At. Thomas

1027
00:54:59.639 --> 00:55:03.000
Jeffers and i've Been Using thomas jefferson quite readily, these

1028
00:55:03.079 --> 00:55:08.360
days just a side story because being, a marine, YOU

1029
00:55:08.400 --> 00:55:10.599
know i think that the issues that we're dealing In The.

1030
00:55:10.599 --> 00:55:13.079
Middle east i've been Saying That donald trump needs to

1031
00:55:13.119 --> 00:55:16.639
Channel His thomas Jefferson Because thomas jefferson had a quick

1032
00:55:16.639 --> 00:55:21.440
answer For the barbary pirates somewhat Similar to iran today,

1033
00:55:22.400 --> 00:55:28.159
ideologically anyway And When thomas jefferson understood the psychology Of The,

1034
00:55:28.199 --> 00:55:29.760
barbary pirates, he said send In.

1035
00:55:29.880 --> 00:55:32.079
The marines let's get it, over, with right.

1036
00:55:33.360 --> 00:55:35.880
THAT'S right, i mean although it should, Be, said bill

1037
00:55:36.079 --> 00:55:38.320
things didn't go terribly well at the beginning of that

1038
00:55:38.360 --> 00:55:41.039
conflict before he Sent, Into marines but that's a story

1039
00:55:41.079 --> 00:55:42.920
for another day. For half, but, YEAH right, i mean

1040
00:55:42.920 --> 00:55:48.320
it's interesting, right, Before Right thomas jefferson's first cabinet meeting

1041
00:55:48.320 --> 00:55:50.320
after he became President in march of eighteen oh one

1042
00:55:50.440 --> 00:55:52.440
concerned what to do About The. Barbary pirates that was

1043
00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:53.239
the topic.

1044
00:55:53.239 --> 00:55:57.480
Of, Discussion right, so anyway so, fast forward here we,

1045
00:55:57.519 --> 00:56:02.639
are today and, you know we're dealing with, that issue

1046
00:56:02.760 --> 00:56:06.480
and you know it's in the hands of the president

1047
00:56:06.519 --> 00:56:09.320
that has decided to deal with it in a very

1048
00:56:09.320 --> 00:56:12.440
diplomatic sort. Of way but it, looks like, you know

1049
00:56:12.480 --> 00:56:16.119
we're just like what Happened in tripoli is it's got

1050
00:56:16.119 --> 00:56:18.559
to come to an end sooner, or later and, hopefully sooner.

1051
00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:22.360
Hopefully sooner things don't always go, to plan as you,

1052
00:56:22.400 --> 00:56:24.280
WELL know, i mean this is the this is the

1053
00:56:24.440 --> 00:56:27.960
challenge when dealing with foreign policy and. International relations lots

1054
00:56:27.960 --> 00:56:30.679
of other factors come. Into play the president has limited

1055
00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:32.599
control over what he. Can do that was true at eighteen,

1056
00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:35.159
oh one and that's true in twenty. Twenty six like.

1057
00:56:35.199 --> 00:56:38.519
Always any kind, of war the opposition always has to say, as.

1058
00:56:38.360 --> 00:56:42.119
Well right, that's right, That's Right So thomas.

1059
00:56:42.199 --> 00:56:45.239
Jefferson survives why did you, two, say okay we need

1060
00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:47.679
to do. AN update, i mean this is, perfect timing,

1061
00:56:47.719 --> 00:56:50.679
you know in light of our two hundred and. Fiftieth anniversary,

1062
00:56:50.800 --> 00:56:54.320
you know it's. It's fitting so you see some, you

1063
00:56:54.320 --> 00:56:58.079
know some. Consistency there but why is? It is it

1064
00:56:58.119 --> 00:57:00.719
was because the anniversary what brought this really.

1065
00:57:00.760 --> 00:57:02.199
Into focus Oh.

1066
00:57:02.320 --> 00:57:05.639
Thanks bill PETER and i have Taught about jefferson, for many.

1067
00:57:05.639 --> 00:57:07.679
Many years i'm At the University of edinburgh Here. In

1068
00:57:07.719 --> 00:57:10.559
scotland he At the University. Of virginia but we collaborated

1069
00:57:10.599 --> 00:57:15.280
for about twenty, five years and this is it is

1070
00:57:15.320 --> 00:57:17.440
in part because of. The anniversary we wanted to kind

1071
00:57:17.440 --> 00:57:20.480
of make a contribution to the. Current, discourse frankly we

1072
00:57:20.519 --> 00:57:23.519
wanted to elevate the discourse a little bit we think we.

1073
00:57:23.559 --> 00:57:26.320
Wanted to we want to move beyond a kind of

1074
00:57:27.440 --> 00:57:30.320
Dichotomy where jefferson's either, you know got to be canceled

1075
00:57:30.360 --> 00:57:32.440
because he's, completely evil or he must be defended at.

1076
00:57:32.480 --> 00:57:35.480
All costs he's a. Flawed individual but our argument is

1077
00:57:35.719 --> 00:57:37.920
he has a lot to tell, us today especially in

1078
00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:42.519
this moment of. Political polarization had we argue in, the

1079
00:57:42.519 --> 00:57:44.320
book and we show in, THE book i think a

1080
00:57:44.360 --> 00:57:48.599
lot of faith in future Generations of americans to address

1081
00:57:48.800 --> 00:57:51.320
the problems that they. Would confront and what he believed

1082
00:57:51.360 --> 00:57:54.960
in was small, d democracy that we had to take,

1083
00:57:55.000 --> 00:57:59.280
democracy seriously recognize that democracy is often under threat and

1084
00:57:59.320 --> 00:58:03.280
we face Challenges at each generation needs to rise to,

1085
00:58:03.480 --> 00:58:06.800
its challenge just as his generation of seventeen seventy six.

1086
00:58:06.840 --> 00:58:10.000
To it not that we should necessarily be constrained by.

1087
00:58:10.639 --> 00:58:13.440
That generation he, famously said we wouldn't expect a man

1088
00:58:13.519 --> 00:58:16.079
to Wear The cody war as a boy as, An

1089
00:58:16.119 --> 00:58:18.239
adult so we need to adapt to. The times but

1090
00:58:18.599 --> 00:58:21.559
we have to have faith in ourselves to solve, our, Problems.

1091
00:58:21.719 --> 00:58:25.679
RIGHT and i Think, that jefferson Like The, founding fathers as, you,

1092
00:58:25.719 --> 00:58:29.320
SAID clearly, i mean we're all FLAWED subjects, i mean,

1093
00:58:29.360 --> 00:58:32.920
you know nobody's here. Is perfect but what you try

1094
00:58:32.960 --> 00:58:36.559
to do in terms of, a legacy in leaving something

1095
00:58:36.599 --> 00:58:39.480
for your children and, your grandchildren is something.

1096
00:58:39.199 --> 00:58:40.000
That can be useful.

1097
00:58:40.039 --> 00:58:42.559
For them is there, A mechanism is there? A system

1098
00:58:42.639 --> 00:58:46.599
is there something you that is lasting that can you

1099
00:58:46.639 --> 00:58:50.400
know that you can build upon that will be consistent.

1100
00:58:50.440 --> 00:58:53.039
For YOU and i think this is the blessing of

1101
00:58:53.079 --> 00:58:55.679
What the founding fathers, gave us is they gave us

1102
00:58:56.199 --> 00:58:58.920
a mechanism in which to. Do that they, didn't, say

1103
00:58:58.960 --> 00:59:02.880
hey this was it, was fixed you couldn't. Change it

1104
00:59:03.000 --> 00:59:05.280
there was ways in which you could, do it, you

1105
00:59:05.280 --> 00:59:08.760
know through the. Amendment process but here's here's. An IDEA

1106
00:59:08.800 --> 00:59:12.039
and i mean when you look at the genius first

1107
00:59:12.039 --> 00:59:14.840
of All the Declaration of independence and Then, the constitution

1108
00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:20.599
certainly IT'S just, i mean it's amazing that such flawed

1109
00:59:20.599 --> 00:59:23.760
individuals could come together and bring us this kind of

1110
00:59:23.800 --> 00:59:28.320
documentation and kind of a plan to, go forward, you

1111
00:59:28.360 --> 00:59:31.480
know to, you know be two one hundred and fifty years.

1112
00:59:31.519 --> 00:59:32.480
Of, AGE.

1113
00:59:33.559 --> 00:59:35.760
Yeah i think, That's, Right BILL and i think what

1114
00:59:35.920 --> 00:59:39.519
they had was, a really really a cute understanding of,

1115
00:59:39.599 --> 00:59:42.440
human nature and human nature hasn't changed in the past

1116
00:59:42.480 --> 00:59:43.519
two hundred and, fifty.

1117
00:59:43.360 --> 00:59:44.159
Years well.

1118
00:59:45.639 --> 00:59:49.280
Since it, was created it had, well indeed, let's, say

1119
00:59:49.320 --> 00:59:51.119
okay and they.

1120
00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:54.119
Understood that, human beings, including themselves. Were flawed they weren't

1121
00:59:54.159 --> 00:59:57.519
looking for, perfection Necessarily as madison, famously said if men,

1122
00:59:57.519 --> 01:00:02.320
were angels we would. Need laws, so so but you

1123
01:00:02.360 --> 01:00:04.559
put your finger on an important aspect, of this, which is,

1124
01:00:04.840 --> 01:00:07.239
you Know the constitution to, be amended. FOR example, i

1125
01:00:07.239 --> 01:00:09.559
mean they recognize that we would have to change and

1126
01:00:09.639 --> 01:00:12.480
adapt to meet the needs of. Our time, some things,

1127
01:00:12.519 --> 01:00:15.639
you know human nature might, be immutable but the particular

1128
01:00:15.719 --> 01:00:17.960
challenges we face are unique to, our career.

1129
01:00:18.559 --> 01:00:21.079
Right exactly and the thing is is that you go

1130
01:00:21.159 --> 01:00:24.599
through the two hundred, and fifties it's not like we

1131
01:00:24.639 --> 01:00:26.559
haven't been this. WAY before i mean, RIGHT now i

1132
01:00:26.559 --> 01:00:28.800
mean every time we're the crisis is the wars the

1133
01:00:29.280 --> 01:00:31.679
word has. Ever been we've had so many worse it's.

1134
01:00:31.679 --> 01:00:35.400
Ever been but, you see the beauty of the document

1135
01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:39.119
Of our constitution and This great american dream is that

1136
01:00:39.480 --> 01:00:41.760
we find a way that this too. Shall pass these

1137
01:00:41.760 --> 01:00:44.840
hard times. Will pass, we evaluate we put. THINGS together

1138
01:00:44.920 --> 01:00:48.719
i think the challenge we have right now is the Siloing.

1139
01:00:48.840 --> 01:00:51.559
Of america, you know just as you talked, about earlier

1140
01:00:51.679 --> 01:00:53.920
we've gotten into our. Individual camps this is one of

1141
01:00:53.960 --> 01:00:56.679
the worst things you. Can do we've divided ourselves and

1142
01:00:56.719 --> 01:00:59.159
we need to find a way to bust those, silos

1143
01:00:59.199 --> 01:01:02.559
open come out, of it and find a way to

1144
01:01:03.159 --> 01:01:07.280
communicate and relate with one another in. UNDERSTANDING that i mean,

1145
01:01:07.480 --> 01:01:10.920
right now there's no doubt there are some very harmful

1146
01:01:11.039 --> 01:01:13.639
agents that are operating in our country day no. Doubt

1147
01:01:13.679 --> 01:01:16.159
whatsoever that's happened since, day one as soon as the,

1148
01:01:16.199 --> 01:01:18.199
country said as Soon as jefferson and the thought in,

1149
01:01:18.199 --> 01:01:20.400
police says we got This great, American idea we're going

1150
01:01:20.480 --> 01:01:23.119
to let the people be. The, boss well, HECK no

1151
01:01:23.800 --> 01:01:27.079
i mean there were forces and tithical to, that immediately

1152
01:01:27.519 --> 01:01:29.519
and they have found a way to stay in secret

1153
01:01:29.800 --> 01:01:34.119
and operate kind of below. The radar and that has always.

1154
01:01:34.159 --> 01:01:37.159
Been there and we see the agitators that come out

1155
01:01:37.559 --> 01:01:42.239
that are being, you know they're being used as pawns to,

1156
01:01:42.599 --> 01:01:47.800
you know create more division AND more, i guess more

1157
01:01:47.880 --> 01:01:51.039
crisis and more stress on. This deal and the people

1158
01:01:51.079 --> 01:01:53.679
need to understand if we come together and bring the light,

1159
01:01:53.719 --> 01:01:56.000
on IT then i think that we can, you know

1160
01:01:56.079 --> 01:01:59.599
put them in the, right place and have we, the people,

1161
01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:03.079
you know be the government that our founding fathers wanted us.

1162
01:02:03.079 --> 01:02:03.519
To be.

1163
01:02:05.039 --> 01:02:05.280
That's.

1164
01:02:05.320 --> 01:02:07.159
The hope that's. THE hope, I, mean bill you're a,

1165
01:02:07.199 --> 01:02:09.519
young GUY but i remember the, bi centennial and, you

1166
01:02:09.519 --> 01:02:11.679
know if you think back to the mid, nineteen seventies,

1167
01:02:11.960 --> 01:02:14.280
you know we. Were divided then there was a yeah

1168
01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:17.039
At the Vietnam and watergate and, people see you know

1169
01:02:17.079 --> 01:02:19.400
that a lot of the rhetoric around the bi centennial

1170
01:02:19.480 --> 01:02:21.320
was similar to what we're seeing now With The. Semiquin

1171
01:02:21.360 --> 01:02:23.840
centennial and if we learn, one, thing it's you, know

1172
01:02:23.880 --> 01:02:28.159
what governments come, and go administrations come. And go we

1173
01:02:28.280 --> 01:02:29.920
have to get along with each other and find a

1174
01:02:29.960 --> 01:02:32.239
cammon ground to talk to each other about and break

1175
01:02:32.280 --> 01:02:34.800
out of these silos because there will always be. Something

1176
01:02:34.880 --> 01:02:37.280
next and the current moment always seems like it's gonna

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last forever and.

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It doesn't what is.

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It, Gonna Take, frank francis is it is it? An

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individual or is it just people just saying, you know

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like like The Movie, broadcast news everybody sticks their head

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01:02:48.119 --> 01:02:50.159
out the Windows that i'm THINKING down i about enough,

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01:02:50.199 --> 01:02:51.960
of this, you know what's it gonna take.

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01:02:53.119 --> 01:02:56.159
That's a really. GOOD question, I mean i'm better at

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01:02:56.199 --> 01:02:58.039
looking at the past than. The future but as my

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01:02:58.079 --> 01:03:01.880
students will, tell YOU but I think i think we're

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reaching an. INFLECTION point i, you know regardless of where

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01:03:05.239 --> 01:03:08.639
one falls on the, political spectrum people. Seem. Dissatisfied now

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01:03:08.639 --> 01:03:11.079
they may be dissatisfied about, different things but it seems

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to me we're going to come to a moment where

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we're gonna have to take a, step back and maybe

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01:03:15.239 --> 01:03:19.280
this two hundred and fiftieth anniversary is the moment to,

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01:03:19.320 --> 01:03:22.000
do that, To, say okay what does it mean to Be?

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An american is what are the fundamental values that bind?

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Us together and let's we need.

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A reboot we need.

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That down we got to go to. Quick break we've

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got More from francis, after this stay.

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With us millions of people of all ages, have speech

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language or. HEARING difficulties a new national poll finds that

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communication breakdowns frequently occur between caregivers and the people in,

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their care causing an array of potentially. SERIOUS problems us

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caregivers of adults with communication difficulties. Were Polled The American

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Speech Language HEARING association asha commissioned, the Poll and YouGov.

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Conducted it the poll revealed caregivers are concerned that communication

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breakdowns could hinder a dreeing medical problems and cause other

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person in need. Of care Ash, Your President Linda rosa

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Hey we're back, With You, bill martinez and we're talking

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to the Author Of Thomas, jefferson survives one of, The Authors.

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Francis cogliano, you know as You said france before, The,

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break yes we need. To reboot we've been saying on

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this show for, oh god the last couple. Of years

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01:08:19.960 --> 01:08:22.680
we need to re embrace. First principles let's, go BACK

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01:08:22.680 --> 01:08:25.600
and i think this is the Beauty Of thomas jefferson

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01:08:25.760 --> 01:08:29.680
survives is for us to, you know look in the rear, view, Mirror,

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01:08:30.119 --> 01:08:34.239
see okay what was it that Made the? American dream

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01:08:34.560 --> 01:08:39.399
this is so such an ambitious mission and vision to

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01:08:39.520 --> 01:08:42.960
take on the number one fighting force on, the planet people.

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01:08:43.000 --> 01:08:46.520
TO die, i, mean gosh, you know you got the

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01:08:46.560 --> 01:08:49.359
revolutionary where even In The, civil war, you know fighting for,

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01:08:49.920 --> 01:08:53.600
you know for the continuation of This great american dream that,

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01:08:54.199 --> 01:08:57.600
you know we had over six hundred, thousand casualties, you

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01:08:57.640 --> 01:09:01.279
know and all in the Name. Of america maybe a

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01:09:01.279 --> 01:09:04.760
different aspect, of it but like, you said somehow we've

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01:09:04.760 --> 01:09:06.359
got to find, you know what?

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01:09:06.520 --> 01:09:09.439
Is it where where can we? Come together what can we?

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01:09:09.560 --> 01:09:12.760
Agree on? Not disagree but what is it that?

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01:09:12.800 --> 01:09:17.359
We want this has, been my uh my observation, of where,

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01:09:17.720 --> 01:09:20.760
you know the breakdown in the political process has come

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01:09:20.880 --> 01:09:23.560
is that it's. Divided us it's not at the end of,

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01:09:23.600 --> 01:09:25.920
the day politics should find a way to. Unite us,

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01:09:25.960 --> 01:09:29.000
it's like are we all, you know we say this

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01:09:29.039 --> 01:09:30.920
is the hill we want. To conquer you, may, Say,

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01:09:30.920 --> 01:09:32.800
HEY bill i want to come from, this side because

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BUT and, i, SAY hey i come from. This side

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01:09:34.600 --> 01:09:36.840
but we're still going after the same hill. To, conquer

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right it's just.

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The.

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PROCESS right i agree.

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With you and if what are we celebrating on the Fourth,

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01:09:42.840 --> 01:09:45.039
of july the two hundred and fifty anniversary Of the

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01:09:45.039 --> 01:09:48.039
declaration with A, pendants right that's our, mission statement that

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that that those words all men are created equal and

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dow that they're created with certain, unalienable rights and that

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among these, are life liberty in the pursuit.

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Of happiness.

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That's it that's the. Money shop that's what we're. All

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01:09:58.600 --> 01:10:02.199
about everything else is how do you? Get? There now

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01:10:02.359 --> 01:10:05.000
they knew and we talk in. The book we know

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01:10:05.119 --> 01:10:08.479
it doesn't apply to everybody necessarily seventy six And the

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declaration gets, you know remade over the generations During The civil,

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war era, for example you just mentioned During the civil

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rights era in the. Twentieth century but, that's it that's

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the creed Of The united states without. Those words those

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are the words that bind, us together all three hundred

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and Forty, million americans regardless of, their background regardless of

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whether they became citizens yesterday or one hundred.

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Years ago and.

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That's it those are, the, words nope that buy.

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US together i, Love, That francis you've hit the nail

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right on, the head because that's what it's. All about

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01:10:44.319 --> 01:10:48.039
so anything that comes down the political, pike here we

1340
01:10:48.119 --> 01:10:49.960
need to stop and say does it add or take

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01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:50.439
away from?

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That proposition, that's right.

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That's right that would be, my PERSPECTIVE and i Think

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01:10:55.479 --> 01:10:57.359
it's peter runoff my co author's perspective.

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As, well yeah it better be hers in otherwise we're

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taking him out of.

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01:11:00.520 --> 01:11:00.560
The.

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Club, NOW now, i hey it's look.

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At, you know we need to find things that we

1350
01:11:06.319 --> 01:11:09.439
can agree, on AGAIN and i think you've encapsulated it

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01:11:09.479 --> 01:11:13.720
brilliantly from our uh, you know from our constitution and

1352
01:11:13.840 --> 01:11:17.880
our declaration. Of independence, Here Now thomas jefferson's. URD vies, i,

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01:11:17.880 --> 01:11:22.239
mean uh his his life has been, you know so

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written and rewritten that, you know some people might think

1355
01:11:26.199 --> 01:11:27.600
he's a, bit schizophrenic but it's.

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01:11:27.600 --> 01:11:29.399
Not him it's just the people who have been writing, about,

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01:11:29.479 --> 01:11:29.960
Him right.

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It's, not him.

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It's, us.

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Yeah, EXACTLY now i will SAY if i can talk

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01:11:36.800 --> 01:11:40.159
about the, Book bill, you're right there are many many

1362
01:11:40.159 --> 01:11:42.399
Books On. Thomas jefferson when we started, writing this my,

1363
01:11:42.479 --> 01:11:44.840
wife said do we really need another Book On. THOMAS

1364
01:11:44.880 --> 01:11:48.479
jefferson i think we Do because this book, is short it's,

1365
01:11:48.560 --> 01:11:51.279
it's relative, it's concise it's making. The points it's trying

1366
01:11:51.279 --> 01:11:55.800
To distill jefferson's thinking from his period to what's useful.

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01:11:55.840 --> 01:11:58.359
For ours and we Quote from jefferson in the last

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01:11:58.399 --> 01:12:00.560
bit of the book that. We provide we provide the

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01:12:00.680 --> 01:12:03.680
kind of homework for the reader so you can Engage with.

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01:12:03.760 --> 01:12:07.039
Jefferson yourself so we're trying to engage in a Dialogue.

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01:12:07.079 --> 01:12:09.439
With jefferson BUT as, i said it's. Relatively concise there

1372
01:12:09.439 --> 01:12:12.199
are lots, of good butt long Biographies. Of jefferson we're

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01:12:12.239 --> 01:12:14.239
aiming to do a little something different here in the

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01:12:14.399 --> 01:12:15.720
two hundred and fiftieth year Of The.

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01:12:15.760 --> 01:12:18.840
United STATES and i love the challenge of engagement here because.

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01:12:18.840 --> 01:12:21.159
That's important we say to the audience all, the time

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01:12:21.399 --> 01:12:23.680
don't just take our word, From it, god forbid don't.

1378
01:12:23.680 --> 01:12:25.840
DO that i mean so, MANY times i mean sometimes

1379
01:12:25.880 --> 01:12:28.079
the kids will come up and say something who told?

1380
01:12:28.119 --> 01:12:28.439
You that?

1381
01:12:29.000 --> 01:12:31.079
You know, is like, come on, you know own your.

1382
01:12:31.079 --> 01:12:34.840
Own knowledge you're an, adult now, and this, you know.

1383
01:12:35.079 --> 01:12:39.199
Incredible Concept this, american dream the vision of The founding

1384
01:12:39.239 --> 01:12:43.159
father's had is a, huge responsibility, you know so much

1385
01:12:43.199 --> 01:12:46.359
so that Even Even ronald, reagan said we could lose

1386
01:12:46.399 --> 01:12:46.600
it in.

1387
01:12:46.640 --> 01:12:48.319
The generation so it.

1388
01:12:48.439 --> 01:12:51.960
Requires participation you cannot be laissez fair about this type.

1389
01:12:52.000 --> 01:12:52.479
Of government.

1390
01:12:53.640 --> 01:12:56.199
That's right the challenge is. On us they're not going

1391
01:12:56.279 --> 01:12:57.920
to come from the past to. Save us it's our

1392
01:12:57.920 --> 01:13:01.560
responsibility to. Save ourselves that's the mission they, gave us

1393
01:13:01.840 --> 01:13:03.159
to leave the country better than.

1394
01:13:03.159 --> 01:13:07.439
We found what what do you want people to take from,

1395
01:13:07.479 --> 01:13:08.319
Your Book Thomas?

1396
01:13:08.399 --> 01:13:09.680
JEFFERSON'S survives i.

1397
01:13:09.640 --> 01:13:14.000
THINK well i Think that jefferson had faith that future

1398
01:13:14.039 --> 01:13:18.279
generations would rise to the challenges, they faced just as

1399
01:13:18.319 --> 01:13:24.960
his did by applying, democratic principles belief. In education as,

1400
01:13:25.000 --> 01:13:26.479
you said, we've got, you know we've got to do

1401
01:13:26.520 --> 01:13:30.760
our own reading and belief in ourselves to surmount the challenges. We,

1402
01:13:30.880 --> 01:13:35.720
face however and there is a warning here that success

1403
01:13:35.760 --> 01:13:38.520
isn't guaranteed. We eat every generation has to meet its.

1404
01:13:38.520 --> 01:13:40.319
Own challenges we can't wait for others to do it.

1405
01:13:40.359 --> 01:13:44.880
For us And hopefully jefferson provides some insight as to

1406
01:13:44.960 --> 01:13:46.720
how we might do that as we look at the

1407
01:13:46.760 --> 01:13:49.840
next two hundred and fifty Years of. American, life well.

1408
01:13:49.680 --> 01:13:51.560
And like, You, say francis you know you go down

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01:13:51.600 --> 01:13:53.720
the timeline two hundred and fifty years of, this country

1410
01:13:53.960 --> 01:13:58.399
the challenges they came up and, were met and the

1411
01:13:58.479 --> 01:14:00.920
reason we were able to. DO that i believe it's

1412
01:14:01.000 --> 01:14:04.840
because of these foundational documents that bind. This together whether

1413
01:14:04.920 --> 01:14:06.520
or not we want, to, admit no there's no doubt

1414
01:14:06.600 --> 01:14:10.039
right now where. We are, you know we've been secularized

1415
01:14:10.079 --> 01:14:14.159
and we moved away from THE ethos i think of

1416
01:14:14.960 --> 01:14:20.079
the heart and beat of. These documents but this is

1417
01:14:20.119 --> 01:14:22.439
so important for us to be able to go back

1418
01:14:22.800 --> 01:14:26.239
and recall and look in the rearview mirror, And, say

1419
01:14:26.279 --> 01:14:30.159
okay where did we make where did we miss? The turn,

1420
01:14:30.760 --> 01:14:33.720
You know i've often said that this is what MAKES

1421
01:14:33.720 --> 01:14:37.119
a ceo or a leader profitable in, an organization is

1422
01:14:37.119 --> 01:14:42.199
that when an organization gets, off track, they'll say time

1423
01:14:42.199 --> 01:14:44.960
to hit the. Pause button let's go back and see.

1424
01:14:44.800 --> 01:14:47.680
When were we? Doing good what kind of things were

1425
01:14:47.680 --> 01:14:48.840
we doing when we were? Doing?

1426
01:14:48.880 --> 01:14:52.560
Good right, that's right, That's right and so we can

1427
01:14:52.680 --> 01:14:54.560
learn from. The past but we shouldn't be bound by

1428
01:14:54.560 --> 01:14:56.680
the past because they didn't get. Everything right so we

1429
01:14:56.680 --> 01:14:58.319
also need to learn from what they. Did wrong but

1430
01:14:58.359 --> 01:15:02.000
we should we shouldn't cast them out completely because of.

1431
01:15:02.039 --> 01:15:04.960
Their failures but we, can learn we can benefit from

1432
01:15:05.000 --> 01:15:06.399
their wisdom and their experience and.

1433
01:15:06.439 --> 01:15:08.279
Their successes but if.

1434
01:15:08.119 --> 01:15:11.600
We don't have, the conversation and if, we're siloed then

1435
01:15:12.039 --> 01:15:14.000
we're just adding onto, the harm are.

1436
01:15:14.000 --> 01:15:14.239
We not.

1437
01:15:15.239 --> 01:15:18.359
That's it we have to talk across, the aisle not

1438
01:15:18.640 --> 01:15:21.119
just to the people. We, agree bill YOU and i

1439
01:15:21.159 --> 01:15:23.439
may not agree on. All politics that's not. The point

1440
01:15:23.560 --> 01:15:25.880
we should be talking to. Each other that's that's the

1441
01:15:25.920 --> 01:15:27.039
only way we go forward as. A.

1442
01:15:27.039 --> 01:15:29.359
Country well like it's, been said if you've got two

1443
01:15:29.359 --> 01:15:31.279
people in the room saying the, same thing one is

1444
01:15:31.319 --> 01:15:36.079
redundant and. Un NECESSARY so i try to live by.

1445
01:15:36.079 --> 01:15:39.680
THAT credo i want to come away from every CONVERSATION

1446
01:15:39.760 --> 01:15:42.880
that i have and be enriched as a result.

1447
01:15:42.960 --> 01:15:44.760
OF it i don't claim to.

1448
01:15:44.800 --> 01:15:47.439
Know, everything AGAIN as i challenge our audience, to say

1449
01:15:47.479 --> 01:15:52.199
look at your, own reading do your. Own investigating, ESPECIALLY today,

1450
01:15:52.319 --> 01:15:54.800
i mean the media has failed us in so, many

1451
01:15:54.920 --> 01:15:59.239
levels and there's narratives out there that. You know again

1452
01:16:00.079 --> 01:16:02.560
goes back to that who told you that? You know

1453
01:16:03.039 --> 01:16:05.600
and do you? Really know are you just? Being told

1454
01:16:05.720 --> 01:16:08.640
and we've been fed a lot of misinformation and this

1455
01:16:08.800 --> 01:16:13.720
information age that we've been bombarded in and if we're

1456
01:16:13.760 --> 01:16:16.800
going to, you know appreciate another two hundred and, fifty

1457
01:16:16.880 --> 01:16:21.399
years then this generation must be. That stopgap we must

1458
01:16:21.439 --> 01:16:24.520
be the ones that take advantage of this inflection point

1459
01:16:24.560 --> 01:16:25.000
and turn it.

1460
01:16:25.039 --> 01:16:26.279
For good right is that fair?

1461
01:16:26.319 --> 01:16:29.840
To, say yes that's the challenge of, our generation of,

1462
01:16:29.840 --> 01:16:31.960
this generation, NO question i agree with you.

1463
01:16:32.000 --> 01:16:34.680
On, that well this book is.

1464
01:16:34.720 --> 01:16:36.800
SO rich, i mean what You and peter, HAVE done

1465
01:16:36.840 --> 01:16:38.880
i mean really in a lot. OF ways, i mean

1466
01:16:38.920 --> 01:16:40.840
this is, a gift, you know it's a gift to

1467
01:16:40.960 --> 01:16:44.039
us and and tell us as citizens because, You Know,

1468
01:16:44.119 --> 01:16:47.520
thomas jefferson as, you said though he. Wasn't perfect though

1469
01:16:47.560 --> 01:16:50.560
nobody has, been perfect, you know Except for, jesus himself

1470
01:16:50.600 --> 01:16:51.880
but nobody's.

1471
01:16:51.920 --> 01:16:53.000
Been perfect.

1472
01:16:54.960 --> 01:16:57.439
But there's so much to learn and appreciate and thank

1473
01:16:57.479 --> 01:17:00.199
you for, you know taking us back and get giving

1474
01:17:00.279 --> 01:17:03.079
us as memories that we can revisit and, re embrace

1475
01:17:04.000 --> 01:17:06.600
especially as we go in to celebrate our two hundred

1476
01:17:06.600 --> 01:17:09.560
and fiftieth birthday, AND anniversary i, should say At. The

1477
01:17:09.600 --> 01:17:13.560
constitution so as we wrap, Things, Up francis i'm going

1478
01:17:13.600 --> 01:17:16.319
to let you samaraize and leave us with your parting

1479
01:17:16.359 --> 01:17:16.760
thoughts on.

1480
01:17:17.159 --> 01:17:20.119
Your Book thomas. Jefferson, survives well.

1481
01:17:19.960 --> 01:17:22.560
Thanks for giving me, This, opportunity bill, first off but

1482
01:17:23.159 --> 01:17:25.479
the book is a, you know it speaks to the,

1483
01:17:25.520 --> 01:17:28.960
current moment but hopefully it's. Beyond that it helps us

1484
01:17:29.479 --> 01:17:33.800
reframe And understand jefferson's legacy and his Contribution to, american

1485
01:17:33.880 --> 01:17:40.479
history which is a belief that we applying democratic principles

1486
01:17:40.479 --> 01:17:45.039
against small d not. Partisan d democratic principles can rise

1487
01:17:45.079 --> 01:17:47.800
to meet the challenges of. Our generation and we've, got

1488
01:17:47.880 --> 01:17:53.119
challenges but we as a single people can surmount.

1489
01:17:53.119 --> 01:17:57.439
Them, exactly well that's a wrap, for Us And, francis

1490
01:17:57.439 --> 01:17:59.199
cogliano thank you so much for being.

1491
01:17:59.239 --> 01:18:00.920
With us great to talk.

1492
01:18:00.960 --> 01:18:05.119
With you congratulations on the book and, continued success, my friend.

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01:18:05.119 --> 01:18:06.600
Take care thank you.

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Hey welcome Back. To America bill martinez here and boo.

1560
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Manic day we got. A treat i've been so looking

1561
01:21:47.000 --> 01:21:49.960
forward to this Conversation With.

1562
01:21:50.199 --> 01:21:53.840
Richard sarah he has written this book that of course

1563
01:21:53.840 --> 01:21:57.760
for me and my rocket roll background and radio background

1564
01:21:57.800 --> 01:22:02.239
in the. Early years this is just so. Much fun

1565
01:22:02.479 --> 01:22:05.680
in a walk down, memory lane His book tales From

1566
01:22:05.760 --> 01:22:09.640
the Rock And Roll. Twilight, Zone, Richard. Welcome michelle great

1567
01:22:09.640 --> 01:22:10.000
to have you.

1568
01:22:10.039 --> 01:22:12.079
With, Us, hey bill what. A pleasure thank you so

1569
01:22:12.119 --> 01:22:12.359
much for.

1570
01:22:12.399 --> 01:22:16.359
The, opportunity well this is so awesome because this is

1571
01:22:16.399 --> 01:22:19.520
bringing back so many memories, for me because, you know as,

1572
01:22:19.560 --> 01:22:22.960
you said this is the music of, our lives and

1573
01:22:23.520 --> 01:22:24.880
you know the memories that went.

1574
01:22:25.000 --> 01:22:28.760
With it so, You know so what motivated you to write?

1575
01:22:28.800 --> 01:22:33.439
This, book well this book, STARTED out i guess in its,

1576
01:22:33.439 --> 01:22:37.399
earliest iteration it was an idea for a terrestrial radio

1577
01:22:37.439 --> 01:22:41.560
program with my late partner and collaborator, rock Historian Our.

1578
01:22:41.600 --> 01:22:44.800
Gary patterson we were just about to launch this. Radio

1579
01:22:44.880 --> 01:22:47.760
show originally it was Called the Spirit, of rock kind

1580
01:22:47.800 --> 01:22:55.159
of a play on words. Paranormal spirit he died Coincidentally On. May,

1581
01:22:56.720 --> 01:23:00.760
may Oh Now i'm may. TWENTY six i think it

1582
01:23:00.840 --> 01:23:04.199
was in, twenty seventeen which was the fiftieth anniversary of

1583
01:23:04.239 --> 01:23:07.359
the Release Of Sergeant Pepper's Lonelyhearts, club band which of

1584
01:23:07.359 --> 01:23:10.079
course is a whole other area we could. Get into

1585
01:23:11.560 --> 01:23:14.399
but when, HE died i had to figure out WHAT

1586
01:23:14.479 --> 01:23:17.439
am i gonna do with, you know, this project and

1587
01:23:17.479 --> 01:23:20.600
so it then it became a PODCAST and i launched

1588
01:23:20.640 --> 01:23:24.520
that in. Twenty eighteen we did, forty EPISODES so, i,

1589
01:23:24.560 --> 01:23:28.680
decided okay there's. More here let me go back and

1590
01:23:28.720 --> 01:23:32.640
revisit some of. THESE episodes i, picked sixteen and, you

1591
01:23:32.680 --> 01:23:34.880
know podcasts. Are great you can hear the tension in

1592
01:23:34.880 --> 01:23:38.319
people's voices and the music, and everything but with words

1593
01:23:38.319 --> 01:23:42.079
you can. Build WORLDS so i decided to turn sixteen

1594
01:23:42.119 --> 01:23:43.199
of those episodes into. A.

1595
01:23:43.199 --> 01:23:47.680
Book wow so the sixteen that you examined give us

1596
01:23:47.760 --> 01:23:48.199
just a real.

1597
01:23:48.399 --> 01:23:50.119
Quick taste there's.

1598
01:23:50.119 --> 01:23:52.720
Four sections the first section is all About. The beatles

1599
01:23:52.720 --> 01:23:55.720
it's Called The. Beatles enigma so the first, chapter is,

1600
01:23:55.760 --> 01:23:58.479
you know Were the beatles in fact this organic music

1601
01:23:58.600 --> 01:24:04.039
sensation or was there be some institution or institutions Like

1602
01:24:04.319 --> 01:24:09.239
The tavistock INSTITUTE the cia Behind them in order to,

1603
01:24:10.640 --> 01:24:13.439
let's Say introduce american society in the wake OF the,

1604
01:24:13.479 --> 01:24:17.359
jfk assassination, to, drugs sex rock, and roll, a, breakdown

1605
01:24:17.439 --> 01:24:20.640
family and. So forth we talk About the Paul is,

1606
01:24:20.720 --> 01:24:24.399
dead legend which lives on to. This DAY then i

1607
01:24:24.439 --> 01:24:29.680
get into curses, and legends so, For Example led Zeppelin

1608
01:24:29.680 --> 01:24:32.479
And Alis, jair Crowley the great based six sixty six

1609
01:24:33.319 --> 01:24:36.560
and all the bad luck that Befelt, Led Zeppelin leonard

1610
01:24:36.600 --> 01:24:39.640
skinnyard and their tragic plane crash and all of. The

1611
01:24:39.680 --> 01:24:44.680
foreshadowing there we get into voices sort of from beyond.

1612
01:24:44.720 --> 01:24:49.800
THE grave i Talk About, johnny horton the great singer

1613
01:24:49.840 --> 01:24:53.520
songwriter who, You know North to alaska and other, great

1614
01:24:53.560 --> 01:24:57.439
songs and his after. Death communication the last chapter is,

1615
01:24:57.560 --> 01:25:01.399
very personal involving my last tele phone call with THE.

1616
01:25:01.439 --> 01:25:06.880
Aforementioned R. Gary patterson so there's, some conspiracy there's some paranormal.

1617
01:25:08.439 --> 01:25:08.960
All sorts of.

1618
01:25:09.000 --> 01:25:11.840
Things, happening yeah and, it's amazing, you know to think.

1619
01:25:11.880 --> 01:25:13.399
Of it, you know for those of us that grew

1620
01:25:13.479 --> 01:25:16.119
up in, THAT era i don't know, that we, you

1621
01:25:16.159 --> 01:25:19.000
know got into a whole lot. Of conspiracy but there

1622
01:25:19.039 --> 01:25:21.079
was no, question that, you know When the Paul is

1623
01:25:21.119 --> 01:25:24.039
dead thing. CAME out i mean everybody, was backtracking, you

1624
01:25:24.039 --> 01:25:27.600
know the, different tracks right and back in the days

1625
01:25:27.640 --> 01:25:30.479
when you had when you could do it.

1626
01:25:30.920 --> 01:25:33.319
On vinyl, of course today might be a little bit.

1627
01:25:33.359 --> 01:25:35.359
MORE difficult i guess if you had a, digital track

1628
01:25:35.399 --> 01:25:36.600
you still might be able to, do, that.

1629
01:25:36.680 --> 01:25:40.239
Right, Right, Right yeah i'm guessing a lot of people

1630
01:25:40.439 --> 01:25:42.960
destroyed their needles when they were trying To Play strawberry.

1631
01:25:42.960 --> 01:25:46.039
Fields BACKWARDS did i hear Them say paul is dead or,

1632
01:25:46.479 --> 01:25:49.159
you know turn me on? Dead, MAN yeah i mean

1633
01:25:49.239 --> 01:25:53.560
that that. WHOLE story i always find it fascinating that

1634
01:25:54.079 --> 01:25:57.079
this Legend of paul McCartney dying in a fiery Crash

1635
01:25:57.079 --> 01:26:02.119
in november of nineteen sixty six began before the age Of,

1636
01:26:02.159 --> 01:26:05.640
the internet like decades Before, the internet and yet it

1637
01:26:05.680 --> 01:26:09.800
grew mouth by word of mouth a couple of explosive

1638
01:26:09.880 --> 01:26:12.239
radio Shows in Detroit And, new york and it just

1639
01:26:12.279 --> 01:26:16.399
spread like wildfire Again. Before internet it's, just astounding and

1640
01:26:16.760 --> 01:26:19.159
it's still that legend is still as strong.

1641
01:26:19.199 --> 01:26:22.159
As ever who, started IT because i mean you even

1642
01:26:22.199 --> 01:26:26.000
had the Cover Of, abbey, Road right paul he, was misstapped,

1643
01:26:26.199 --> 01:26:29.000
you know by design and that sort. Of thing so

1644
01:26:29.079 --> 01:26:32.560
this conspiracy and then of course the walrusts and everything

1645
01:26:32.600 --> 01:26:33.920
that was associated, with it.

1646
01:26:34.000 --> 01:26:37.159
Right right and then you Had The sergeant, pepper album

1647
01:26:37.239 --> 01:26:39.720
which is basically set out like a. Funeral scene you

1648
01:26:39.800 --> 01:26:43.560
have all of those floral arrangements which are. Very funereal

1649
01:26:44.479 --> 01:26:48.039
they are all these sorts of, you know interesting codes

1650
01:26:48.079 --> 01:26:53.359
and secrets messages perhaps Embedded In peter blake's great. Album

1651
01:26:53.439 --> 01:26:57.399
cover but it began we believe on a university Campus.

1652
01:26:57.439 --> 01:27:00.000
IN iowa i Believe It's, drake university and someone wrote

1653
01:27:01.239 --> 01:27:05.319
a piece for the student newspaper looking at all of,

1654
01:27:05.359 --> 01:27:09.239
these clues, you know the backward masking in the in

1655
01:27:09.279 --> 01:27:13.560
the songs and the album the album. Cover clues and

1656
01:27:14.399 --> 01:27:18.600
somebody picked up, on That Called russ gibb On a detroit,

1657
01:27:18.680 --> 01:27:22.600
radio station offering up. These clues the lines just. WENT

1658
01:27:22.640 --> 01:27:25.159
crazy a couple of, Weeks Later New, york City The

1659
01:27:25.199 --> 01:27:31.119
Great robbie young suspended his music show format because people

1660
01:27:31.159 --> 01:27:34.199
were flooding the lines. ASKING questions i believe he got fired.

1661
01:27:33.880 --> 01:27:34.439
On the air for.

1662
01:27:34.520 --> 01:27:39.279
Doing that and that was in nineteen. Sixty nine and

1663
01:27:39.319 --> 01:27:39.680
it just.

1664
01:27:39.840 --> 01:27:40.960
That's how crazy radio.

1665
01:27:41.000 --> 01:27:43.479
Can be, richard said you draw, an audience and you

1666
01:27:43.520 --> 01:27:46.279
get fired for drawing. An audience, right there, you, Go

1667
01:27:46.560 --> 01:27:50.640
exactly it's just only. IN radio, i mean having experienced

1668
01:27:50.640 --> 01:27:52.760
it and having, you know radio being a big part of,

1669
01:27:52.760 --> 01:27:55.600
my life, you know for over, fifty Years and i've

1670
01:27:55.640 --> 01:27:58.199
seen them come and go and all the craziness and the,

1671
01:27:58.520 --> 01:28:00.800
you know the bosses we had to deal with and.

1672
01:28:01.159 --> 01:28:03.640
All that it WAS just i guess sometimes they forget

1673
01:28:03.640 --> 01:28:05.760
about it. Being entertainment this is WHY when i WAS

1674
01:28:05.800 --> 01:28:08.159
IN la i had the privilege and honor of Working With.

1675
01:28:08.239 --> 01:28:10.359
Chuck blori he was probably one of the genius. Program

1676
01:28:10.359 --> 01:28:14.159
directors was the one That Led color Radio In los

1677
01:28:14.199 --> 01:28:18.000
angeles and then later on went on To program Kiss

1678
01:28:18.399 --> 01:28:22.399
and kiss with a compromise fifty THOUSAND watt am station

1679
01:28:23.479 --> 01:28:25.520
grew that audience to over A.

1680
01:28:25.640 --> 01:28:28.399
Million qn and he was he was.

1681
01:28:28.439 --> 01:28:31.920
Totally genius but his deal was always about, He, said

1682
01:28:31.920 --> 01:28:34.159
bill when you open up, the microphone your job is

1683
01:28:34.199 --> 01:28:38.000
to elicit a positive. Emotional response that's that's what he,

1684
01:28:38.079 --> 01:28:41.680
longed for and that's how we worked on the. Radio

1685
01:28:41.760 --> 01:28:44.439
station and it was. TOTAL genius, i mean, you know

1686
01:28:44.520 --> 01:28:46.720
so he was an exception to. THE rule i will

1687
01:28:46.720 --> 01:28:47.119
say that.

1688
01:28:47.880 --> 01:28:51.680
Right right i'm a child of terrestrial radio. As, Well

1689
01:28:51.720 --> 01:28:54.119
bill i've worked most of my adult life in. Terrestrial

1690
01:28:54.239 --> 01:28:57.600
radio podcasting, is great, of course but there's nothing like

1691
01:28:57.640 --> 01:28:59.760
a late night audience on. Terrestrial, radio.

1692
01:29:00.239 --> 01:29:02.920
Yeah, exactly so, you know in getting back to my

1693
01:29:02.960 --> 01:29:06.319
original question about who came up, with this because somebody

1694
01:29:06.439 --> 01:29:10.359
was in the studio, to do, you know to insert

1695
01:29:10.560 --> 01:29:13.960
in the track, You know paul is dead and all this.

1696
01:29:14.239 --> 01:29:17.119
Other arrangement it was like you know when you go

1697
01:29:17.319 --> 01:29:19.840
Was It, john lennon, you know because it WAS totally

1698
01:29:19.920 --> 01:29:23.399
i mean it was genius because what happened with record

1699
01:29:23.439 --> 01:29:24.039
sales right?

1700
01:29:24.039 --> 01:29:24.319
After?

1701
01:29:24.359 --> 01:29:24.399
That?

1702
01:29:24.560 --> 01:29:28.720
Right absolutely well that's. That bigs the question, was this

1703
01:29:29.680 --> 01:29:32.359
what's that psychological term when you see patterns as? A

1704
01:29:32.439 --> 01:29:36.199
paradolia so are people listening and hearing what they want?

1705
01:29:36.239 --> 01:29:39.159
To Listen Did john lennon really say turn me On

1706
01:29:39.239 --> 01:29:42.239
dead Man on revolution? Number nine did He say paul?

1707
01:29:42.319 --> 01:29:45.720
Is DEAD or I buried paul Rather On? Strawberry fields

1708
01:29:46.000 --> 01:29:48.920
or were we just? Imagining THAT but i tend to

1709
01:29:48.920 --> 01:29:51.479
think what happened WAS and I believe paul McCartney is.

1710
01:29:51.520 --> 01:29:55.000
STILL alive i don't think he died spoiler alert because

1711
01:29:55.159 --> 01:29:58.239
imagine you know that they found a left handed bass

1712
01:29:58.279 --> 01:30:01.600
player To replace paul McCartney was arguably more talented than.

1713
01:30:01.600 --> 01:30:05.880
THE original, i mean it just it, beggar's belief as.

1714
01:30:05.880 --> 01:30:10.199
They SAY but i think what likely happened Was. The beatles,

1715
01:30:10.720 --> 01:30:14.119
you know they, were cheeky they, loved comedy they, were

1716
01:30:14.119 --> 01:30:17.079
COMEDIANS and i think they were kind of playing around with,

1717
01:30:17.159 --> 01:30:20.199
this idea let's leave some breadcrumbs there and let's see.

1718
01:30:20.199 --> 01:30:23.039
What happens let people have fun. WITH it, i mean

1719
01:30:23.039 --> 01:30:24.680
it could have. TURNED tragic, i mean you know what

1720
01:30:24.760 --> 01:30:28.039
happened in the Wake Of elvis. PRESLEY'S death i believe

1721
01:30:28.079 --> 01:30:30.960
people there were people who, Committed suicide god, for fend

1722
01:30:30.960 --> 01:30:32.479
as FAR as, i know and that didn't Happen with

1723
01:30:32.479 --> 01:30:34.600
paul McCartney's rumor. Or death but it could have. Turned

1724
01:30:34.640 --> 01:30:39.560
sideways thankfully. It didn't, BUT yeah I think i think

1725
01:30:39.600 --> 01:30:41.800
the clues. ARE real i think they were placed. There

1726
01:30:41.840 --> 01:30:44.920
deliberately but there are those who, maintain no that's, you

1727
01:30:44.960 --> 01:30:49.000
know you compare photographs pre, sixty seven post, Sixty seven poles,

1728
01:30:49.159 --> 01:30:52.439
jaw line, his teeth they, Look different, he's taller, he's shorter,

1729
01:30:53.000 --> 01:30:56.600
you know is it The same. Paul McCartney so readers

1730
01:30:56.640 --> 01:30:56.920
will have.

1731
01:30:56.960 --> 01:30:58.960
To, decide yeah like, you say you can see what

1732
01:30:59.000 --> 01:31:02.319
you want, to see and, you know and with all

1733
01:31:02.319 --> 01:31:05.039
this going on and now there's, you know now we're

1734
01:31:05.039 --> 01:31:07.319
in the age of, social MEDIA and i see Pictures

1735
01:31:07.479 --> 01:31:10.680
where paul's lying in a hospital and, you know he's

1736
01:31:10.720 --> 01:31:12.840
on life support and all this, other stuff and, you,

1737
01:31:12.880 --> 01:31:15.800
go oh, my goodness are we going back to revisit

1738
01:31:15.840 --> 01:31:16.199
this all.

1739
01:31:16.199 --> 01:31:21.239
OVER again i cannot imagine had this, rumor again which

1740
01:31:21.279 --> 01:31:24.720
started in nineteen, sixty nine three years after McCartney's, supposed

1741
01:31:24.840 --> 01:31:28.880
death had it if it was happening now given as, YOU,

1742
01:31:28.960 --> 01:31:34.720
say ai where you literally cannot believe your own. Eyes Anymore,

1743
01:31:36.319 --> 01:31:41.079
so YEAH this ai and social media has given this

1744
01:31:41.640 --> 01:31:45.039
legend whole, new currency that and many. OTHER legends, I

1745
01:31:45.079 --> 01:31:48.560
mean i'm sure you can go on social media and find,

1746
01:31:49.560 --> 01:31:51.640
you know someone who looks a Lot Like jim morrison

1747
01:31:51.680 --> 01:31:54.359
at the age of, eighty two wandering around the Streets. Of,

1748
01:31:54.359 --> 01:31:55.479
paris look. He's alive.

1749
01:31:55.560 --> 01:31:59.079
He's, alive exactly got to go to brick. Quick break

1750
01:31:59.079 --> 01:32:00.640
we've got More from richard after this stay.

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1836
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you know what's the.

1837
01:36:37.199 --> 01:36:41.279
Next one you want to talk about legends and curses and.

1838
01:36:41.920 --> 01:36:47.760
Let's see the, SECTION begins i believe With The rolling

1839
01:36:47.800 --> 01:36:54.039
stones and the nefarious free Concert at Altamont the Speedway

1840
01:36:54.319 --> 01:36:59.399
in California in december of nineteen. Sixty nine and on

1841
01:36:59.439 --> 01:37:01.800
the surface just seems like a, you know a concert

1842
01:37:01.800 --> 01:37:05.479
that was not properly planned and that and it went

1843
01:37:05.600 --> 01:37:08.520
sideways with. Tragic results, of course we had the death

1844
01:37:08.560 --> 01:37:13.520
of The Young African American, meredith hunter who was repeatedly

1845
01:37:13.600 --> 01:37:17.520
stabbed by the security detail at, the Time The, Hell's

1846
01:37:17.560 --> 01:37:20.600
angels and then there were several other people WHO died

1847
01:37:21.159 --> 01:37:23.439
i think from a, drug overdose and there were people

1848
01:37:23.479 --> 01:37:26.600
that were killed hit and run accidents and. So forth

1849
01:37:27.640 --> 01:37:30.239
it was just. A disaster so what does that have

1850
01:37:30.319 --> 01:37:32.359
to do with legends. And, curses Well I'M i'm i

1851
01:37:32.399 --> 01:37:35.119
happened to Be An. ORTHODOX christian i believe in an, unseen,

1852
01:37:35.159 --> 01:37:41.560
WORLD right i believe in. Spiritual warfare AND and i

1853
01:37:41.640 --> 01:37:45.319
think that the set the stage was Set at altamont

1854
01:37:45.600 --> 01:37:51.079
for some some pretty, you know nefarious sinister perhaps even.

1855
01:37:51.159 --> 01:37:55.880
Demonic activity it's. A possibility it's. A. Possibility uh and

1856
01:37:55.880 --> 01:38:00.000
and the choice of. The location this was a basically

1857
01:38:00.119 --> 01:38:00.359
kind of.

1858
01:38:00.600 --> 01:38:01.520
A bowl.

1859
01:38:02.720 --> 01:38:06.319
The banks were. Too steep it was set set up

1860
01:38:06.359 --> 01:38:11.520
initially as, a racetrack like a demolition. Derby racetrack maybe

1861
01:38:11.560 --> 01:38:13.640
six thousand people would fit, in there but there were

1862
01:38:13.760 --> 01:38:16.279
hundreds of thousands and they just kind of were because

1863
01:38:16.279 --> 01:38:18.479
of gravity and the. Downward slope they were just kind

1864
01:38:18.479 --> 01:38:22.039
of pushed towards. The stage the stage wasn't. Constructed properly

1865
01:38:22.800 --> 01:38:27.000
then they Invited The hell's angels to, do security and

1866
01:38:27.079 --> 01:38:30.880
they paid them, with, BEER basically i, don't know hundreds

1867
01:38:30.880 --> 01:38:33.720
of cases. Of beer there was a, great. Cocktail right

1868
01:38:33.800 --> 01:38:38.119
you've got these thugs with chains and, pool cues all

1869
01:38:38.159 --> 01:38:44.640
liquored up, and knives and they were supposed to protect

1870
01:38:45.079 --> 01:38:47.680
not Only The, rolling stones but they were very protective

1871
01:38:47.680 --> 01:38:50.840
of their, excuse me their their motorcycles which surrounded. The

1872
01:38:50.840 --> 01:38:54.279
stage and then you had this the crowd. Pressing in

1873
01:38:54.039 --> 01:38:57.479
not any not, their fault they just, you know and,

1874
01:38:57.560 --> 01:38:58.760
it ended, you know.

1875
01:38:58.880 --> 01:38:59.359
Horribly.

1876
01:38:59.439 --> 01:39:03.680
Obviously uh and unfortunately when you when you try and

1877
01:39:03.680 --> 01:39:07.600
figure out who's, to, blame ultimately the a lot of

1878
01:39:07.600 --> 01:39:12.760
the guilt has to Rest With mick JAGGER AND i

1879
01:39:12.760 --> 01:39:14.880
i don't mean to BE unkind i Love The. ROLLING

1880
01:39:14.920 --> 01:39:19.720
stones i try, to separate you know there, they're bad

1881
01:39:20.039 --> 01:39:22.840
bad boy persona from My own christian faith and.

1882
01:39:22.880 --> 01:39:23.039
So.

1883
01:39:23.119 --> 01:39:25.359
Forth uh, YOU know i like TO say i sold

1884
01:39:25.359 --> 01:39:27.279
my soul to rock, and Roll but jesus took. It

1885
01:39:27.319 --> 01:39:31.399
back but he made a lot of bad decisions and

1886
01:39:31.439 --> 01:39:34.000
they were very In the in the aftermath of, that

1887
01:39:34.039 --> 01:39:38.039
Tragedy the stones seemed very cavalier about what Happened To.

1888
01:39:38.359 --> 01:39:39.119
Meredith hunter and.

1889
01:39:39.159 --> 01:39:41.560
THE others i don't know what in what Is In,

1890
01:39:41.880 --> 01:39:45.319
mixed heart uh, These DAYS i'm i pray that he

1891
01:39:45.680 --> 01:39:49.680
has tremendous remorse for. What happened but if you read,

1892
01:39:49.680 --> 01:39:52.119
the chapter you see there's a lot of SORT of

1893
01:39:52.239 --> 01:39:58.319
i would say spiritual, warfare underneath just percolating up from from.

1894
01:39:58.159 --> 01:40:02.520
Beneath right and and that's always kind of been, you

1895
01:40:02.520 --> 01:40:05.079
know our parents and grandparents when rock and roll was coming,

1896
01:40:05.119 --> 01:40:08.279
into being that was their concern that this could open

1897
01:40:08.319 --> 01:40:12.159
the gateway to, you know, demonic activity and, you know

1898
01:40:12.199 --> 01:40:16.039
the music and everything was so revolutionary, and everything and

1899
01:40:16.399 --> 01:40:17.720
you could kind of look at this.

1900
01:40:17.760 --> 01:40:19.279
And say look what it did to.

1901
01:40:19.319 --> 01:40:22.520
THE culture i think some good things and certainly some

1902
01:40:22.680 --> 01:40:25.359
pretty radical kind. OF stuff, i mean because YOU and

1903
01:40:25.439 --> 01:40:27.479
i grew up in a period. A time also a

1904
01:40:27.479 --> 01:40:29.880
big part of, it was you know, what HAPPENED which

1905
01:40:29.920 --> 01:40:33.600
i think was quite interesting. And coincidental is you Had

1906
01:40:33.640 --> 01:40:35.720
the jesus movement going on, one hand you had To

1907
01:40:35.760 --> 01:40:40.840
hate ashbury, and all, you know psychedelic drugs and everything

1908
01:40:40.880 --> 01:40:42.880
else going on as a parallel in.

1909
01:40:42.920 --> 01:40:45.880
Our, CULTURE yeah, I mean i think some of that

1910
01:40:46.000 --> 01:40:50.399
sort of flirtation with the dark side. Was marketing so,

1911
01:40:50.520 --> 01:40:53.039
for example You Know black Sabbath And. Ozzy Osbourne as

1912
01:40:53.039 --> 01:40:55.560
ozzie would, say repeatedly, You know i'm Not, A satanist

1913
01:40:55.640 --> 01:40:58.079
i'm Not. A nazi i don't believe in any of.

1914
01:40:58.119 --> 01:40:59.840
That stuff but.

1915
01:41:00.119 --> 01:41:03.239
He did he was interested in what he called the,

1916
01:41:03.319 --> 01:41:06.840
you know the, dark side the, darker. Things right but

1917
01:41:07.840 --> 01:41:11.439
Others Like robert plant, Or Sorry, jimmy page, for example

1918
01:41:11.520 --> 01:41:15.239
were totally into. The occult he owned an. Occult bookstore

1919
01:41:15.720 --> 01:41:18.560
he was a Devote Of. Alistair crowley He bought crowley's

1920
01:41:18.600 --> 01:41:23.199
house on the Shores Of, Loch Ness, bolskin house And

1921
01:41:23.960 --> 01:41:28.600
before crowley left he was working on some. Magic Rituals

1922
01:41:28.600 --> 01:41:31.000
and i'm saying not, Stage magic i'm talking about. The

1923
01:41:31.039 --> 01:41:35.359
occult i'm talking about the. Dark side where he supposedly opened.

1924
01:41:35.359 --> 01:41:39.800
A portal he was trying to bring forth. This entity

1925
01:41:40.800 --> 01:41:44.920
but he failed to bind this this, dark spirit and

1926
01:41:45.039 --> 01:41:47.760
he got called Off to paris and left the. Portal

1927
01:41:47.800 --> 01:41:52.880
open Along Comes jimmy page buys. The house strange things

1928
01:41:52.920 --> 01:41:56.960
start happening in. The house, one night he supposedly makes

1929
01:41:57.000 --> 01:41:59.720
this pact with his other band members to Make, led zeppelin,

1930
01:41:59.760 --> 01:42:01.880
you know the greatest Rock and roll band Of, all

1931
01:42:01.960 --> 01:42:05.960
Time And robert Plant And John paul Jones And. JOHN

1932
01:42:06.000 --> 01:42:07.680
bonham i don't think they were totally, into it but, they,

1933
01:42:07.680 --> 01:42:10.319
Thought okay jimmy wants us to. Do this they went along,

1934
01:42:10.359 --> 01:42:13.359
with it and they assigned themselves these sort of occult

1935
01:42:13.439 --> 01:42:17.079
sigils that appeared on instead of. Their names the sigels

1936
01:42:17.079 --> 01:42:21.119
appeared On led. Zeppelin three and then of course all

1937
01:42:21.159 --> 01:42:25.880
of these bad circumstances starts surrounding. The Band robert plant

1938
01:42:25.880 --> 01:42:28.760
has a near fatal Accident in greece while. On vacation

1939
01:42:28.880 --> 01:42:32.600
his young child then dies sadly while they were. On

1940
01:42:32.680 --> 01:42:37.399
Tour jimmy page fell into sort of hopeless heroin addiction

1941
01:42:37.600 --> 01:42:41.119
for quite. A Time john bonham of, course died which

1942
01:42:41.359 --> 01:42:45.159
ultimately broke up. The band so, THERE again, i mean you, can,

1943
01:42:45.199 --> 01:42:49.560
say well maybe there's some psychology happening and they, believed

1944
01:42:49.560 --> 01:42:53.159
it and so it was a self fulfilling prophecy that might. Be,

1945
01:42:53.239 --> 01:42:56.800
TRUE again i come back to, my views, my worldview

1946
01:42:56.880 --> 01:43:01.039
which is informed by, the BIO and i think there

1947
01:43:01.079 --> 01:43:03.119
is an. Unseen WORLD and i think when you open

1948
01:43:03.319 --> 01:43:07.199
certain doors or you knock on, certain doors someone or

1949
01:43:07.279 --> 01:43:12.640
something enters, or ANSWERS and i think that's what happened

1950
01:43:12.640 --> 01:43:14.920
To led zeppelin and probably many. Other Bands.

1951
01:43:15.920 --> 01:43:18.680
JANIS joplin i Don't cover.

1952
01:43:18.680 --> 01:43:22.359
Jenesi's death in, the Book but i'm thinking there's probably

1953
01:43:22.399 --> 01:43:24.560
at least one more, volume here more tales from the

1954
01:43:24.640 --> 01:43:30.600
rock and Roll. Twilight, zone yeah AND actually i DON'T

1955
01:43:30.600 --> 01:43:33.840
think i even produced an episode for the Podcast. On

1956
01:43:34.000 --> 01:43:35.880
janis but, there again, you know a member of the

1957
01:43:35.880 --> 01:43:40.319
Twenty seven club along with, You Know robert johnson back in,

1958
01:43:40.359 --> 01:43:43.840
the THIRTIES and i cover this In the curses section

1959
01:43:45.000 --> 01:43:49.199
where he supposedly sold his soul to the devil old

1960
01:43:49.239 --> 01:43:51.640
scratch as they call the devil down In, the delta

1961
01:43:52.680 --> 01:43:55.640
so that he, could play, you know beautiful. Blues guitar

1962
01:43:55.800 --> 01:43:58.239
he died at. Twenty seven no one paid much attention

1963
01:43:58.279 --> 01:44:02.039
to the age of twenty seven until We Had, Brian Jones,

1964
01:44:02.159 --> 01:44:05.119
janis Joplin And jimmy hendrix all dying at the age of.

1965
01:44:05.199 --> 01:44:09.199
Twenty seven then we became familiar with the Twenty. Seven

1966
01:44:09.239 --> 01:44:12.039
club then it, was forgotten And Then kurt cobain died

1967
01:44:12.079 --> 01:44:17.079
at twenty seven in nineteen, ninety four and Then oh

1968
01:44:18.279 --> 01:44:20.079
i'm forgetting. Her name.

1969
01:44:22.479 --> 01:44:27.000
Oh Not Cass elliott cass Was, over.

1970
01:44:26.960 --> 01:44:30.800
No no this was. Twenty eleven she Was, a british very.

1971
01:44:30.840 --> 01:44:35.479
Sultry, voice yes, right right. You're Talking oh.

1972
01:44:35.520 --> 01:44:37.000
I've forgotten, that's terrible.

1973
01:44:37.359 --> 01:44:42.359
That's Terrible Wine, Amy winehouse Thank, You, Bill Yeah. Amy

1974
01:44:42.399 --> 01:44:45.239
winehouse she died at, twenty seven and then people started

1975
01:44:45.239 --> 01:44:47.880
really paying attention to the twenty. Seven, clubs so, you

1976
01:44:47.880 --> 01:44:50.079
know what is it about that age of twenty seven with,

1977
01:44:50.199 --> 01:44:52.920
you know The Claimed janice and it seems, to me

1978
01:44:53.239 --> 01:44:58.319
again not discounting, spiritual warfare but when you're at that age,

1979
01:44:59.119 --> 01:45:02.680
in rock you've sort of reached the pinnacle of your.

1980
01:45:04.039 --> 01:45:04.239
Your.

1981
01:45:04.319 --> 01:45:08.279
Creative abilities now you have tremendous pressure coming down on you,

1982
01:45:08.359 --> 01:45:13.439
to perform to produce more. More records with that pressure

1983
01:45:14.159 --> 01:45:19.039
come sometimes people succumb to drugs, and alcohol which is

1984
01:45:19.079 --> 01:45:24.520
what happened unfortunately To to janis and. Many others and

1985
01:45:24.600 --> 01:45:26.520
it seems to happen in and, around that, you know

1986
01:45:26.560 --> 01:45:31.199
that late. Twenties period so and, you know it's a

1987
01:45:31.239 --> 01:45:33.399
deadly cocktail without.

1988
01:45:33.399 --> 01:45:35.319
A doubt, i mean to have that kind of fame

1989
01:45:35.359 --> 01:45:37.840
and that kind, of MONEY and, i mean, you know

1990
01:45:37.880 --> 01:45:40.760
we've seen what happened to you know whether you're Talking

1991
01:45:40.800 --> 01:45:44.560
about Elvis And. Michael jackson of course his new movie

1992
01:45:45.239 --> 01:45:47.720
is out. Right now, that's uh, you know getting a

1993
01:45:47.720 --> 01:45:51.479
lot of attention. As well we've got only two. Minutes Left,

1994
01:45:51.520 --> 01:45:53.359
YOU'RE richard i could be with you. All afternoon this.

1995
01:45:53.479 --> 01:45:56.760
IS terrific I love i love what you're sharing. With

1996
01:45:56.840 --> 01:45:59.119
us and also the fact that YOU and i share

1997
01:45:59.319 --> 01:46:02.359
a biblic worldview and were driven by the Truth.

1998
01:46:02.359 --> 01:46:05.079
Of god so this is. Very COOL so i appreciate

1999
01:46:05.119 --> 01:46:06.479
you to.

2000
01:46:06.439 --> 01:46:10.319
Wrap, things up maybe just a couple of quick, Highlights,

2001
01:46:10.359 --> 01:46:13.479
here yeah you think we'll, draw them NOT only i

2002
01:46:13.479 --> 01:46:15.039
mean to, YOUR book i mean because they need to get.

2003
01:46:15.079 --> 01:46:16.720
THEIR hands, i mean this. IS terrific i can't wait

2004
01:46:16.760 --> 01:46:17.880
to get, my copy.

2005
01:46:18.479 --> 01:46:21.279
Looking forward to you getting, a copy and would love. Your,

2006
01:46:21.279 --> 01:46:24.039
feedback well people, ask me, you know, you know was

2007
01:46:24.039 --> 01:46:25.960
there anything that shocked me or? Surprised ME and i

2008
01:46:25.960 --> 01:46:28.399
think that the Death Of brian jones in nineteen, sixty

2009
01:46:28.520 --> 01:46:32.560
nine drowned in his. Swimming pool he had just purchased

2010
01:46:32.600 --> 01:46:35.119
this PROPERTY by aa that was OWNED.

2011
01:46:35.159 --> 01:46:35.279
BY.

2012
01:46:35.279 --> 01:46:38.840
A a milne, who wrote, You know Winnie the pooh

2013
01:46:39.239 --> 01:46:42.319
and created all those. Wonderful Characters christopher robbins and. So

2014
01:46:42.359 --> 01:46:46.880
forth He fled london where he, was basically, you know

2015
01:46:46.920 --> 01:46:49.279
being hounded by the police and being hounded by the

2016
01:46:49.319 --> 01:46:54.159
media and thought he could find this Retreat In Sussex

2017
01:46:54.279 --> 01:46:57.319
Rural pastoral sussex dies at the bottom of a. Swimming

2018
01:46:57.319 --> 01:47:00.680
pool it was ruled misadventure death. Miss adventure but when

2019
01:47:00.680 --> 01:47:02.680
you look at the people who were there, that night

2020
01:47:03.159 --> 01:47:08.199
Including The rolling Stones Fixer, thomas keylock who had been

2021
01:47:08.239 --> 01:47:10.760
Fired By keith Richards because keylock was a bit of

2022
01:47:10.760 --> 01:47:14.880
a scammer and. A liar he Latched Onto brian jones

2023
01:47:15.439 --> 01:47:18.720
and he was there, that night and there were also

2024
01:47:18.880 --> 01:47:21.960
some construction people that were working on the house that

2025
01:47:22.439 --> 01:47:26.600
were constantly Battling With. Brian jones they thought they could

2026
01:47:26.600 --> 01:47:29.760
take advantage of this. Young man he was. Twenty seven

2027
01:47:29.840 --> 01:47:34.199
he was a bit of a drunk and, very fragile

2028
01:47:34.720 --> 01:47:37.159
and so they were trying to take. His Money thomas

2029
01:47:37.279 --> 01:47:40.560
keylock was trying to take. His money whether there was

2030
01:47:40.600 --> 01:47:44.479
some sort of a fight that Resulted In brian, jones'

2031
01:47:44.520 --> 01:47:49.640
Death But thomas, Keylock's Brother, frank keelock was a Superintendent

2032
01:47:49.680 --> 01:47:52.680
With scotland yard and there is evidence that there was a.

2033
01:47:52.720 --> 01:47:58.680
Cover up there's also evidence that there was An undercover

2034
01:47:59.000 --> 01:48:04.439
scotland yard officer at the party. That night and the

2035
01:48:04.479 --> 01:48:06.920
other thing that's very interesting is that the autopsy was

2036
01:48:06.960 --> 01:48:11.520
not performed by the local. Medical examiner it was performed

2037
01:48:11.560 --> 01:48:15.640
by the medical examiner who was appointed By The prime Minister,

2038
01:48:15.680 --> 01:48:18.800
Of England harold wilson at. The time so this cover

2039
01:48:18.920 --> 01:48:19.600
up all, Over.

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01:48:19.439 --> 01:48:21.239
This yeah without, a doubt we got to leave it

2041
01:48:21.279 --> 01:48:25.039
therere's PODCAST talk Rayo Veteran, richard saratt host Of The

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01:48:25.039 --> 01:48:28.840
strange planet podcast and frequent Voice behind Coast TO coast

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am and of course his New book tales From the

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Rock And Roll. Twilight, zone richard thank you for being.

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With us, take care be blessed.

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By, Thank you, Thank, You bill God bless have you written?

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