May 1, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 05 01 26

The Bill Martinez Show 05 01 26
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The Bill Martinez Show 05 01 26
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Are you ready?

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Yeah?

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Okay, us doing Ill Martinez Live a program about current events.

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Our culture, our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Hey, Good morning America. Six minutes after the top of

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the hour.

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Right now Bill Martinez here with the one and only

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krovinrqwits the President of Americans Tax for former America's pre

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eminent center right expert on taxes. Mister Grober, how are

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we doing.

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I'm doing well. Good to be with you, Bill.

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Always good to have this time to check on things,

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especially it just seems like more and more all things

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California these days. As you ride California, voters may soon

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decide whether to impose a one time five percent wealth

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tax on billionaires.

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Should the rest of us be worried?

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Well, if you live in one of the states the

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eight states with no income tax, you will likely get

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more billionaires, high tech people, people who create wealth move

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to your state, bringing jobs with them if you live

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in California. Just by saying they're thinking about it, this

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legislation has not passed. It will be on the ballots.

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Got enough signatures now, they say, and it sounds right

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that it will be on the November ballot. The governor

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had said he opposes it, Will he really spend money

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against it? Will the left politicians go, we shouldn't show

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our hand this soon. We should shut up and pretend

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we aren't for this stuff. My guess is that it

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may well pass, although there's going to be a competing

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measure on the ballot which may defeat it. But the

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fact that it was discussed, the fact that the unions

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in California said, we want more of your money so

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that we can get paid more than everybody else in

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the state. Unionized government workers should be paid more than

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everyone else. They shouldn't have to work as many hours.

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They should retire sooner. They should retire with incredible pensions.

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That's what government is for. That's what this is about.

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This is about taking money from people who created wealth

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and created companies and hired many people to hand it

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over for high pensions that none of us get the

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real world. For government workers, it is taxing people who

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create jobs to pay for people who live off the

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government and taxpayers.

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You know, Grover, a lot of people don't understand that

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these pensions they get, it's.

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Guaranteed, I mean every year.

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I mean, if they don't like, if their investments don't

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meet you know, meet the standard, then it's up to

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the taxpayer to pay the difference.

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Right.

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Yes, in the real world, people have defined contribution pensions.

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You put in ten percent of your salary, your company

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puts in ten percent, and that builds up over time,

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and then you retire on that. But you're never in

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a position where you're owed money from anybody else, or

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where you owe money. You know exactly the value of

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your retirement. If you work for the government. Often workers

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put nothing in themselves and the government puts in the money,

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and it's not enough to pay the benefits that they've

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promised workers. And when they promise them, they can't change that.

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That's a contract. Heck, in Illinois they put it into

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the constitution. They realized they were so out of whack

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they have no way to raise that money. They put

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in the constitution that they will have to pay their

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retirees who retire younger than you and me or anybody else,

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and get more pay than you and me and anybody else,

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And they just keep getting more and more and more.

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And in New York they just had a debate about

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increasing the already very lucative contracts and pensions that New

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Yorkers had negotiated in the past.

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It no, we want more, Yeah, well why not. I

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mean they've been able to get away with it. But

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you know, meanwhile, you think that, particularly in these blue

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states where they're out of money anyway, but they keep

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finding ways to spend more money that they don't have,

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and it's like, when does somebody just say, uncle, you know,

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we can't do this anymore.

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Well, the Democrats can't do that because their coalition is

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built about groups and structures that all demand access to

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other people's money. You've got the trial lawyers that want

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laws that allow them to sue people that, you know,

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if they spill their coffee. They want to be able

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to sell sue McDonald's for a million dollars so that

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McDonald's workers get paid less, so that the trial lawyers

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can't a hunk of the million dollars. You've got the

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labor union bosses that want more union dues and more

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government money and more contracts. And the big city political

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machines people on welfare, people who make one hundred and

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fifty thousand dollars managing other people on welfare. They're not

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on welfare, but they might as well be and they

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make a lot more money to people on welfare, and

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they make sure none of those guys get jobs and

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become Republican. So they want more and more people locked

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into welfare dependency every single day. So the entire left's

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coalition depends on somebody going out and stealing money from

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taxpayers and giving it to them. There is no end.

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They will fight amongst each other. You know some people

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in California who are lefts go, oh, you shouldn't show

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your hand this soon. You shouldn't make it too obvious

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that your pensions are bigger than everyone else's. You'll get

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us all in trouble. All they're telling you is be quiet,

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we'll get to you. We're not telling them though.

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Yeah, you just get elected like Spamburger, and then you

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can let them see the cards, right boy.

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Virginia, on the other side of the continent, there was

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a woman who claimed to be moderate. She just signed

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a slew of tax and spending, many many new taxes,

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massive new regulations, raising the cost of everybody's home heating, oil,

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everybody's air conditioning. It is getting more and more Expensive's

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only been in office for a month or something, and

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she's out destroying the affordability of Vermont.

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Well, and I mean, you know, you talk about the

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way some of these governments are attacking the wealthy, and

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they're and they're doing so blindly, particularly in New York,

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because here you've got these billionaires that are bringing jobs

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that contribute so much to the you know, day to

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day costs of New York, and now you want to

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tax them again, and they're going to go aste Labisco.

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Baby, you know, I'm going to Miami.

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And the governor of New York said the other day

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before the election said, if you want to leave, we

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don't care. Go ahead and leave. If you don't like

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our high taxes, leave And just a couple of weeks ago,

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she said, if you're visiting down in Florida, would you

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talk to those guys and ask them if they'll come back,

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literally leaving with them to talk people into coming back.

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The French guy who helped to write the let's tax

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billionaires of churs. Remember the amendment to allow a tax

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on billionaires wealth does not anywhere in there say only billionaires.

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This will allow the legislature, with a simple majority vote,

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to decide not billionaires, millionaires, not millionaires. People who make

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one hundred thousand dollars a year. They can take that

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to any they can be. It could be everybody three

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weeks from now, as soon as as soon as the

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bill passes. This is not a they advertisers tax on

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billionaires so that they think you're stupid and you haven't

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read it and you don't know that with a tweak,

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not a constitutional amendment, not a vote to the people. Again,

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the politicians will take. If you vote yes on that amendment,

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you give them, the politicians the right to have a

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property tax on everyone. The state could do a property

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tax on your house, yeah, in to your local government.

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Yeah. And they're talking about an exit attacks now too.

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Well, if you're going to govern like the East Germans,

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you better be willing to shoot people on the way

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out or they will leave.

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Right right and so now, And of course California's been

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trying to do this because I know when I left California,

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they tried to chase after me, and my accountant just laughed, said,

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don't worry about it. But another person that I knew

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was a one time partner. She ended up paying like

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three thousand dollars just to get them off the back.

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You know, they just kept pestering her.

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In Ohio, which is now being governed better, but a

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number of years ago it was pretty bad. People. A

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lot of people are leaving Ohio. Lawyers told people who

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were moving, if you moved to Florida, if you moved

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to Tennessee, you must stop giving money to your local church,

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stop giving money to your local charities, the local boy scouts,

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anything that ties you. Because I was saying, oh, you

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haven't really left, right your same doctor or your same

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dentist can't come back and use the doctor dent because

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that means you haven't really moved to up to Florida.

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Uh So, not only are they losing talent, somebody who

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owns a house, pays property taxes, is an upstanding citizen,

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and creates jobs. They're losing all of the charity charity

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exactly in their state.

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Yeah, well, i'll tell you what we gotta go to

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quick break. We've got more from Grover on the other side.

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Stay with us.

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Do you owe the Irs ten thousand dollars or more

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in back taxes? Are you being audited or investigated? Has

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the IRS sent you a letter demanding payment? You may

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not owe what they claim. Make this free call to

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the tax doctor. Now let them negotiate with the irs

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on your behalf.

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Eight hundred eight one seven one four five two eight

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hundred eight one seven one four five two. That's eight

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eight hundred four to three nine one five eight eight.

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nine six three nine five four, eight hundred seven ninety

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six three nine five four. That's eight hundred seven nine

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six thirty nine fifty four.

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Everything is expensive right now, gas, food, you name it.

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You're spending more, you are making the same or less money.

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So what do you do?

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You rack up credit card debt. That's what you do.

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It's not your fault, it's the economy. And guess what.

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If you rack up too much credit card debt, like

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some of us, you can't pay your bills. Then the

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credit card companies, as nice as they are, start hounding

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Gil Mark is here with President Americans for Tax Reforming,

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America's pre eminent center right expert on taxes, talking about

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her favorite topic. You know it is amazing to me,

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and I know it's amazing to most Americans here, because

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you know, you just keep asking these blue state governors

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and that.

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When when is enough enough? I mean, what is it

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going to take? Grower?

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Well, we just had the news that the governor of

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Maine has announced she's not running for Senate anymore. She

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was the moderate who was maybe going to be able

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to win that Senate seat for the Democrats. And they

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had the crazy person who's that calls themselves a communist

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and wear's Nazi tattoos and things like that. That's the

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guy who's been winning. So what did the woman who

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wanted to be thought of as a moderate too, Well,

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in order to chase after the voters who were going

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for the guy with a that's the socialist thing on

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their tattoo and a history of supporting communism and saying

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nice things about so in order to look more like

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that to win in the Democrat primary, she supported a

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higher tax rate on higher income people, exactly the kind

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of taxes that drive people out of California and New

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York and now Massachusetts and now Maine. But that wasn't

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enough to keep her left wing people happy. They've turned

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on her. She's not running again, but Maine is going

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to pay with higher taxes and people leaving Maine because

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she wanted to be the most left wing person she could.

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This is part of her campaign. This was an illegal

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campaign contribution to her to get the legislature to say,

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let's go steal money from these you know several thousand

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people that vacation stay in Maine in their retirement who

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will now go someplace else.

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Grover, This is this is so concerning because you know,

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you and I talked about this last week. I mean,

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you've got half of the country things conservative and you know,

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appreciates conservative policies and votes for conservative policies. And then

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you've got the other half just bathing in fraud, waste,

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abuse and more taxes. And you know, and what's going

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to be galling is because you know, the Blue states

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are going to be coming with their hat in hand,

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you know, begging the government to give them more money

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because they've run out of money.

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We very much need to make sure that the Republicans

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have the Presidency, the House, or the Senate, preferably all three.

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from passing a federal law which bails out failed states.

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need to borrow trillions of dollars and give it to

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various states to try and keep those states from falling apart.

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they'd like, but watch for it. Which is why if

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you're in a state that isn't crazy, you can't afford

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to vote for a Democrat who is going to vote

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to bail out California, New York, Illinois, and now Illinois

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not only wants to have a gasoline tax, they would

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have a mileage tax on top of that. That's the

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new thing. Just the last couple of days they announced

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this is we're going to have a study that a

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bunch of Democrats are going to read and then go.

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The study says we should do this, and you'll have

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you'll be you'll have to pay for it. How many

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miles you drive, you have to come in and they'll

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look at it. This is theoretically to force electric cars.

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They subsidized electric cars, ye, right, in order to get

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people to buy them. Then they say, oh, but we

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don't get a gas tax from you, so we should

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have a mileage tax. Why are you subsidizing something and

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then taxing it. It's become a joke what the left

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is doing. Reagan's comment, right, if the left says, if it,

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if it moves, taxes, if it keeps moving regulated, when

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it stops moving, subsidize it.

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Right, exactly well, And the Democrats don't even wait for

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it to stop moving. They're just happy to, you know,

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to subsidize things, especially like like you said, with ev

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cars and all that and all those things. How much

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did it contribute to the inflation that we're dealing with today.

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Grover Well, taxes lead to higher taxes make everything less affordable.

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When you get a tax cut at the state level,

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a local level, federal level, you walk into the grocery store,

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everything in the grocery store is more affordable to you

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because you're paying lower taxes. Your take home pay is increased.

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Even if the top part of your paycheck doesn't get bigger,

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what you get to take home is bigger with a

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tax cut. Tax cuts are paying increases. They make life

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more affordable. The other side of that is increasing taxes

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reduces your pay, reduces your take pay. You may say

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you made it this much money, but after taxes you

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got a pay cut. Tax increases are pay cuts, and

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so Democratic governors around the country are campaigning on I'm

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going to cut your pay. Now they generally say I'm

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going to cut somebody else's pay.

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But well, of course that's the way the whole income

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tax system came into play. Right, Oh, we're going to

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go after those nasty people that make so much money,

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that top one percent and that lasted for about a year.

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Right, Yeah, it's only about a one percent. We're paying

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the income tax. You had to make more than eleven

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million dollars to be in the top bracket. The top

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bracket was seven percent. Today the lowest bracket is twice

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what the highest bracket used to be.

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You know, the Democrats, it's in their DNA. They just

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they they're really not concerned about the people. And I'm

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and I'm wondering, you know, Grover, I was thinking the

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other night, when do the people finally say, Okay, pay up,

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sucka all this money that you've borrowed from our social

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Security fund that they're telling us is going to go

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bankrupt in thirty three or thirty four, why don't we

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the people get together and say, hey, we're calling the note.

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You need to pay it.

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Because if we can get some of that money diverted

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into into social security, it'll be less money for them

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to waste and steal.

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Maybe.

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Yeah, Well, our friends on the left have a coalition

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of voters that all depend on tax dollars being taken

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from working people and given to them, whether it's people

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on welfare. Government employees have bigger pensions than anybody else

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in the world, that get higher pay for less hours work,

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that work fewer days in a month, fewer years in

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their lifetime. They demand more and more money from taxpayers,

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so there is no end to their demand. Welfare people

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give us more. Welfare people get government contracts that are

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corrupted and cost much more than they should. They want

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more and more cash, so there is no ability. The

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Democratic Party cannot fix the problem that they don't see

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as a problem. They see it as the way they live.

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Yes, right, it is a way of life, there's no doubt,

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because that's how they get elected. But you know, just

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as they have built up a constituency, and I know

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you've done this with you know people, as you continue

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to educate people about tax reform and that, but we

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really need to augment that constituency in such a way.

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I mean, because you figure look at if eighty thousand

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people eighty thousand somalies can control Michigan, I got to

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think that, you know, three five million fair minded Americans

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as a voting block could create a lot of havoc

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on a good side.

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What do you think, Well, I think we've been winning

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elections recently. We need to make sure everybody gets to

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the polls. Please vote. Everyone who wants to raise taxes

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knows they need to vote in order to get more

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of your money and make your life less affordable. You

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need to vote. It matters every single one vote. Get

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your kids to vote, get your relatives to vote, your

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neighbors to vote, and vote for someone who won't raise

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your taxes, who will allow you to live in an

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affordable house, in an affordable neighborhood with it income tax

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that after the income the tax has been taken out,

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allows you to go to the grocery store and buy

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things well.

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And you have all this information at your website at

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ATR dot org. So look at you can be informed voter,

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a powerful informed voter. Because here it is we pass

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the big beautiful bill. You talk about affordability. Just like

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you said with your formula, you cut taxes, you make

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more money. You know, the Democrats want to talk about affordability.

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Look at what the Republicans gave you with the Big

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Beautiful Bill. I mean, right now, returns are probably at

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an all time high right now, income tax returns.

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You've got more money in.

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Your pocket, Thank you very much, Donald Trump and the

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Republican But the mainstream media and these other naysayers wants

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you to believe differently.

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Yeah, you just keep in mind the Democrats have said

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they wanted to not pass the Big Beautiful Bill. Had

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they won, our taxes everybody in the country would be

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four trillion dollars higher over the next decade, four hundred

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billion a year. That's a lot of money out of

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everybody's pocket. That's what the Democrats voted for. That's what

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they ran on, and should they win the House, that

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is what they will insist on.

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That's part of the reason why they shut down the

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government is they want to claw back that money from

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the Big Beautiful Bill. Right yep, if the truth be known,

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that's the bottom line. Well, we got to leave it there.

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You can steal on that for a while, but make

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sure you do something about it with your vote this time. Okay,

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Grover Norquist, the president of Americans for Tax Reform. The

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website once again remind everybody Grover.

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Bill, thank you atr dotorg.

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Welcome back Bill.

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Martinez here along with the Manhattan based Box News. Contributed

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to Roy Murdock.

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He Deroy, how are we doing great? Bill?

505
00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:42.079
Well, you know, just having as much fun as possible,

506
00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:44.839
just watching you know, the left implode. I mean, it's

507
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amazing to me how they're cheering, you know, against America.

508
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And these are the same people that want to lead America.

509
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So it's almost like, Okay, this is like Barack Obama

510
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hope and change and the fundamental tree transformation of the country.

511
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We're going to turn over this country to these people

512
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that created all these problems that Donald Trump's been working

513
00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:11.920
so hard to fix in spite of activist judges and

514
00:28:13.319 --> 00:28:15.799
Congress that wants to sit on their hands and not

515
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participate in things that obviously need to be resolved, whether

516
00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:19.839
it has to do with the.

517
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Border, the Iran war, you know, affordability.

518
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All these things that we're dealing with are the result

519
00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:34.680
of the very policies that Joe Biden enacted not to mention,

520
00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:38.400
you know, a trillion dollar giveaway as he was exiting.

521
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The White House.

522
00:28:39.920 --> 00:28:44.480
Yeah, that's unfortunately sad but true. And boy, what a

523
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:47.039
complete mess Joe Biden made of so many different things

524
00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:51.440
clean up on aisles five, seven, twelve, fourteen, and twenty three,

525
00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:55.839
quite a few in between. And Trump is Donald J.

526
00:28:55.880 --> 00:28:58.240
Trump is trying to clean up all these messes from

527
00:28:59.599 --> 00:29:03.400
the border wide open, as you know, cleaning up the

528
00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:07.160
fraud that we're discovering in one federal program after another,

529
00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:12.279
and certainly in Minnesota in California, a lot of these

530
00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:14.160
things that happened at the state level involved a lot

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of federal money. And this isn't look I mean, as

532
00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:18.799
I say, good enough for government work. Some of this

533
00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:22.440
is going to be incompetence or just inefficiency or whatever.

534
00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:24.599
But when you see the kinds of things that we've

535
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seen over the last few months in Minnesota, this isn't

536
00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:29.279
just people who are in the government are not very swift.

537
00:29:29.319 --> 00:29:31.359
These are people who's taking cash and running off with it,

538
00:29:31.440 --> 00:29:34.759
taking cash from aid that's supposed to be available for

539
00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:37.839
autistic kids in California, money that's supposed to be there

540
00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:40.359
for people in hospice, as they go through their last

541
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you know, three or four weeks on earth before they

542
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die of cancer or Alzheimer's, whatever else it might be.

543
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And people are just taking this money, running off with

544
00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:51.799
it and buying sports cars. One woman in Minnesota took

545
00:29:51.880 --> 00:29:54.119
some of this money she used to buy real estate

546
00:29:54.119 --> 00:29:57.359
in Kenya. I mean, just the level of theft and

547
00:29:57.559 --> 00:30:01.440
corruption are just staggering, say so often at the expensive

548
00:30:01.480 --> 00:30:04.880
people who need public assistance really just stomach.

549
00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:05.759
Turning, right exactly.

550
00:30:05.799 --> 00:30:08.119
And like I said, it's so pervasive, deroutz no wonder

551
00:30:08.160 --> 00:30:10.920
the young kids see all this stuff that's happening. And

552
00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:13.680
it's even like, what was it that government official who

553
00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:17.079
bet on when Maduro was gonna, you know, be arrested

554
00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:20.759
and he wins what four hundred thousand dollars because he

555
00:30:20.759 --> 00:30:24.880
had some insider trading information and everybody was an uproar.

556
00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:28.160
But they're going, wait a minute, this guy, that's chump change.

557
00:30:28.200 --> 00:30:30.440
I mean, this is like, you know, pennies out of

558
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:34.279
your penny loafers compared to what you know politicians have

559
00:30:34.359 --> 00:30:36.799
been doing all this time, including Nancy Pelosi, with all

560
00:30:36.799 --> 00:30:39.039
the inside of trading. And you're gonna put this guy

561
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to helen back and put him in jail for twenty years.

562
00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:43.920
And meanwhile you got all these elected officials getting away

563
00:30:43.960 --> 00:30:44.680
with this kind of stuff.

564
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You're kidding me, right, well, I agree with you that

565
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compared to Nancy Pelosi, who went from you know, having

566
00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:54.119
modest income as somebody making one hundred and seventy five

567
00:30:54.240 --> 00:30:56.400
thousand dollars a year as a member of the House

568
00:30:56.440 --> 00:30:59.759
and then the speaker speaker in America, but she's worth

569
00:30:59.759 --> 00:31:02.319
out two million dollars or something crazy like this. Her

570
00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:06.359
her investments have grown more rapidly than UH the S

571
00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:10.359
and P five hundred UH then the UH. I believe

572
00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:14.720
Berkshire hathaway the money from Warren Buffett. She's apparently better

573
00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:17.119
invested in Warren Buffet. Who can believe that? So, I

574
00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:18.720
guess you must read the Wall Street ournal every day,

575
00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:21.240
or maybe she took some really good u UH business

576
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:23.519
classes in her spare time or something like this. You

577
00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:27.839
mentioned the guy who bet on the Maduro situation. I

578
00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:29.480
do think there's a real there's an aspect of this

579
00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:31.839
which is really a deep concern, and that is, if

580
00:31:31.839 --> 00:31:34.519
you see you're sitting there at you know, some casino

581
00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:37.119
and some guy puts money on when Maduro is going

582
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:40.319
to get knocked out, and you mentioned somebody mentions it.

583
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:43.440
Somebody pretty soon the Venezuela and UH government here. Here's

584
00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:45.720
that people are betting on Maduro getting knocked out, and

585
00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:48.720
all of a sudden, the operational secrecy of this effort

586
00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:52.079
goes away, and that could put our soldiers in in

587
00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:54.559
harm's way. That could make it could have made it

588
00:31:54.559 --> 00:31:57.000
possible for Maduro to you know, go and move his

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00:31:57.119 --> 00:32:00.200
location and then still meet in control. So that kind

590
00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:03.279
of thing, basically is is a leak of state secrets.

591
00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:05.759
And I'm a very deeply concerned about that from that perspective,

592
00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:07.640
not just a corruption aspect.

593
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:10.160
But again, Deroy, look for what's been happening.

594
00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:11.960
This is why Donald Trump doesn't want to talk to

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00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:14.400
Congress and say, hey, guys, this is my plan. We

596
00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:17.440
got to go after Iran. That evidence says they they're

597
00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:21.039
minutes away from having eleven nuclear bombs.

598
00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:22.920
We need to do something about it.

599
00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:25.680
If you had to talk to these guys, they'd leaked

600
00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:28.079
it out to the press. I mean that question what

601
00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:31.119
they do time and time again. So these people don't

602
00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:33.400
know about national security. And the thing is is that

603
00:32:33.519 --> 00:32:35.279
you know, we blame a lot on Joe Biden, but

604
00:32:35.319 --> 00:32:38.200
I blame it on the Democratic Party because they all

605
00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:42.519
voted lockstep on all these policies that have hurt so

606
00:32:42.599 --> 00:32:43.920
many Americans.

607
00:32:43.480 --> 00:32:47.240
Right, yeah, And most of these things that got approved

608
00:32:47.240 --> 00:32:50.319
in Congress, things like the so called Inflation Reduction Act

609
00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:53.920
and the Big American Recovery Acts I think was called

610
00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:57.599
right after Biden came into one that increased spending so

611
00:32:57.799 --> 00:33:01.559
dramatically and rubbed up bartflation. Right, those are almost all

612
00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:04.240
on party line votes, the Republicans voting against that stuff,

613
00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:06.079
and those things only going through with one hundred percent

614
00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:09.480
votes of Democrats. Not every one of those bills, but

615
00:33:09.519 --> 00:33:12.319
most of them. And so they're right, it's not just

616
00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:15.240
Joe Biden. The Democratic Democrat Party has to take responsibility

617
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:19.759
for these disastrous policies. And in almost all these cases,

618
00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:21.920
they don't have any Republican fingerprints on them. So the

619
00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:23.960
GOP doesn't have to take any blame because they try

620
00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:25.400
to stop these things. They didn't have the vote, They

621
00:33:25.400 --> 00:33:28.000
didn't have votes at the time to do so. But

622
00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:30.720
a lot of the stuff that's been at best inefficient,

623
00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:34.039
if not you know, completely calamitous, really as a result

624
00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:37.920
of of Joe Biden. And Democrat policies without any assistance

625
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:39.640
from the GOP right.

626
00:33:39.880 --> 00:33:41.640
You know, as you were saying earlier, you know the

627
00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:45.559
fraud and waste that is so pervasive and that you

628
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:48.519
know which Elon musk Hat cided, he said, God, we

629
00:33:48.559 --> 00:33:50.440
should be able to claw back at least a trillion

630
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:55.519
dollars here. But they went so nuts because and particularly

631
00:33:55.599 --> 00:33:57.960
again this is the Democrats mostly And you might say,

632
00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:00.160
you know, they always say, well, it's on both sides, know,

633
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:02.119
but now I see it more on the left than

634
00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:06.279
the right, because they have they have systematically built up

635
00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:12.880
a trough feeding system that lays out taxpayer money into

636
00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:16.239
the troth and they they got they got.

637
00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:17.000
A system set up.

638
00:34:17.320 --> 00:34:22.480
Whether it's Somali's uh, the Somalis in Minnesota, Uh, the

639
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:26.119
stuff that's happening in California and in other you know,

640
00:34:26.519 --> 00:34:29.079
it's interesting because most of it's mostly happening in Blue

641
00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:30.440
states man.

642
00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:32.320
So they've got this system down.

643
00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:35.880
It's it's a franchise operation, and they got it all

644
00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:36.480
settled up.

645
00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:38.159
They go, hey, look at this is how you do it.

646
00:34:38.199 --> 00:34:39.000
You got n g O.

647
00:34:39.639 --> 00:34:43.039
The ng O gets the money and then they nondescriptly

648
00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:45.880
sort of way distribute it, and then when you follow

649
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:47.480
the money all the way through de Royz, you and

650
00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:50.679
I've talked previously, a good portion of that money is

651
00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:53.679
big that goes to these politicians too for their re

652
00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:55.159
election campaigns.

653
00:34:55.920 --> 00:34:58.079
Yeah, this is what's what's truly corrupt about it is

654
00:34:58.079 --> 00:35:00.960
they take the money for art work taxpayers like you

655
00:35:01.000 --> 00:35:03.800
and me and our listeners. They take that money, they

656
00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:05.639
spend on these programs. They say, they go to the

657
00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:08.400
teachers' unions, they go to the environmental groups, they go

658
00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:10.840
to the welfare groups, et cetera. And then those people

659
00:35:11.239 --> 00:35:13.840
then turn around and give political donations to the Democrats.

660
00:35:13.880 --> 00:35:17.079
So they basically end up, after a couple of filters,

661
00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:21.000
essentially putting our own taxpayer dollars back into their campaign coffers.

662
00:35:21.519 --> 00:35:24.239
So it's really disgusting, and it would be it wouldn't

663
00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:26.519
be quite as bad if they actually accomplished anything along

664
00:35:26.519 --> 00:35:29.119
the way. But you look, for example at California where

665
00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:31.360
they're a governor, a news amount of program twenty four

666
00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:34.599
million dollar program to fight homelessness, and they asked them

667
00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:36.199
after a while, well what were the results. Did you

668
00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:39.039
reduce homelessness? Did you get these people homes? Did you

669
00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:42.039
help them out. Oh oh, where the money go? Oh no,

670
00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:44.639
they don't. Where the money went? Twenty four billion, not

671
00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:46.679
with an M, but with a B. Twenty four billion

672
00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:49.159
dollars up in smoke, and the number of homeless people

673
00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:51.960
in California increased. And then you've got the I think

674
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:54.199
it's about seventy billion again with a ban on an M.

675
00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:59.719
Seventy billion dollars in the gubernatorial train set out there

676
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:03.599
valley and they spent seventy billion dollars or so, and

677
00:36:03.639 --> 00:36:06.079
they don't have one mile. I don't think they have

678
00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:09.599
one yard of railroad track laid out there. And how

679
00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:12.559
do you possibly spend seventy billion dollars and not have

680
00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:15.199
you know, at least a couple of miles of railroad

681
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:18.199
tracks and ties and some stone you know, in between

682
00:36:18.519 --> 00:36:20.679
in between the rails somewhere. They don't have any of that.

683
00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:23.199
So you got to ask yourself question the question, seventy

684
00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:25.400
billion dollars is already gone. How much that money's just

685
00:36:25.400 --> 00:36:28.679
stand up in people's pockets or their overseas bank accounts

686
00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:31.760
or paid off to buy their you know, ski houses,

687
00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:34.360
or their their beach homes or whatever else. It is

688
00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:36.599
seventy billion dollars, nothing to show for.

689
00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:38.360
It, and you want this guy to be the president

690
00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:39.159
of the United States.

691
00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:43.159
Really, yeah, unbelievable. I mean, there's a guy who's able

692
00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:46.440
to spend all this money and again show nothing for it.

693
00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:47.880
I mean, the one thing that said, look, we spend

694
00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:50.639
seventy dollars, seventy billion dollars and here's this wonderful train,

695
00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:54.320
and the tracks are lovely and the train cars are smooth,

696
00:36:54.360 --> 00:36:56.320
and it's a nice comfortable ride. Okay, well there's a

697
00:36:56.320 --> 00:36:57.599
lot of money, but at least we've got a train

698
00:36:57.639 --> 00:36:59.800
out of it. Now, seventy million dollars, you don't have

699
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:03.840
an amtraction of ties. Got nothing other than they might

700
00:37:03.840 --> 00:37:05.280
as well just take the money, put it at the

701
00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:08.800
corner of Hollywood Buying and set it on fire and

702
00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:13.159
had a lovely bonfire with you s'mores and people singing

703
00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:14.960
campfire songs. It would have a much better use of

704
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:16.159
the money. They've done it that way.

705
00:37:16.519 --> 00:37:18.519
And how much money went to his why oh, just

706
00:37:18.719 --> 00:37:20.519
by the way, anyway, we got to go to quick work.

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Got more from Roy Murdoch on the other side, stay

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Murdoch DEERROI. Before we get into your article that you wrote,

786
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I do want to talk about that, But first of all,

787
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I don't know if you and I maybe we touched

788
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on a little bit last time, the spl LC Southern

789
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Poverty Law Center. Yeah again, talk about a systemic scam

790
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and a franchisable program.

791
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Here the SBLC.

792
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You know, they're they're dying into irrelevance, so they're freaking

793
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out and they've got to contrive a system in which

794
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now we got to talk talk about white supremacy and

795
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fund money to get all these rebels to come in

796
00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:08.639
in much the same way as what they did and

797
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trying if you remember it was in the SPA LC,

798
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it was somebody else that tried to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer.

799
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But but along the same type of line, we're going

800
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to create a problem that wasn't there and uh and

801
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we're going to uh, you know, through some backdoor money,

802
00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:31.159
offshore money. And they got, you know, hundreds of millions

803
00:42:31.239 --> 00:42:34.760
of dollars a nonprofit sitting in these offshore accounts and

804
00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:39.840
they're funding all these radicals in order to maintain some

805
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sort of level of relevance.

806
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This, this is unconscionable.

807
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Yeah, this, this story of the Southern Poverty Law Centers

808
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is staggering. I read this when it first came out.

809
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The indictment came out last week for the Department of Justice,

810
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and I read an article I think it was a

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Blaze or Bright Part one or two, and I just

812
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read it just, oh my god, are you kidding me?

813
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And it says like something out of a bad novel.

814
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What the Southern Poverty Law Center was doing was taking

815
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money from donors where they said we're fighting racism, we're

816
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fighting bigotry, or fighting violent extremism. They then took this

817
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money and paid it to informants in some of these

818
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:18.960
very same groups. For example, they gave these people are

819
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called their number basically like F nine, F forty two,

820
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or how they identify the various field sources. They call

821
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them more informants. One of them was a guy F nine,

822
00:43:29.119 --> 00:43:32.440
as they call them, allegedly raised funds for the Neo

823
00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:36.079
Nazi National Alliance, and between twenty fourteen to twenty three,

824
00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:39.320
according to Department of Justice, the SPLC secretly paid F

825
00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:42.679
nine more than one million dollars. Then we've got another

826
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guy who is with the National something called the American Front,

827
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which is another racial extremist group. They paid him nineteen

828
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thousand dollars. This guy is a federal felon who is

829
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convicted of cross burning. So you had the SPLC literally

830
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giving nineteen thousand dollars to a guy who burned crosses.

831
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Take this up. Then they gave another one of the

832
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informants was the Imperial Wizard of the United Clans of America.

833
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This is the same group that the same group that

834
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set off the bomb in that church in Birmingham, Alabama,

835
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back in nineteen sixty three to kill those four little

836
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girls who were playing in the basement. One of them

837
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By the way, they were friends with a little girl

838
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who I guess decided to stay home and do her

839
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homework or do something else. She was not in that

840
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church with them, thankfully, a little girl by the name

841
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of connell Lisa Rice Connelle sa Ri. I said, yeah, that's great,

842
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let me play with you guys. She would have bought

843
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up too, and she wouldn't have not have become a

844
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National security advisor and secretary of State. Are very good

845
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:39.519
chance that wouldn't have happened. So it adds up to

846
00:44:39.599 --> 00:44:43.599
grant total about three million dollars that the Southern Poverty

847
00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:49.239
Law Center gave to these to these extremist groups Neo Nazis, KKK,

848
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et cetera, which then went out and engaged in racist activity.

849
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And then the SPOC said, oh my god, look there's

850
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racist activity. We need to go fight them, and raised

851
00:44:57.599 --> 00:45:01.519
even more money. This would be a bit like Alcoholics

852
00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:05.039
Anonymous paying off bartenders to make sure people got really

853
00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:07.679
stiff drinks so it become alcoholics and they would go

854
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:11.880
sign up for Alcoholics Anonymous. I mean, it's morally logistically

855
00:45:11.960 --> 00:45:14.559
kind of the same thing, and it is truly breadthaking

856
00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:17.519
that this is going on. This is massive fraud. This

857
00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:21.559
involved money laundering. They had multiple bank accounts and multiple

858
00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:26.199
innocuous sounding names of various corporations that the people that

859
00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:28.599
got the money didn't get it from directly from Southern

860
00:45:28.639 --> 00:45:31.760
Poverty Law Center. They got it from these fictitious entities

861
00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:36.840
with very innocent sounding names like Northwest Technologies, tech Writers Group,

862
00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:41.239
Rare Books Warehouse. So this would basically launder the money

863
00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:43.519
and nobody the people getting the money wouldn't see the

864
00:45:43.519 --> 00:45:46.639
connection to the Southern Poverty Law Center. So this is

865
00:45:47.760 --> 00:45:51.960
a conspiracy. This is money laundering, This is wire fraud,

866
00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:56.719
This is defrauding donors, all in the effort of taking

867
00:45:56.840 --> 00:45:59.400
money to give to the very racist groups that the

868
00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:01.920
SPOC said they were fighting. And if they didn't get

869
00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:04.480
this money, who knows, the neo Nazi KKK might be

870
00:46:04.519 --> 00:46:08.280
totally out of business and wouldn't be around to minus

871
00:46:08.320 --> 00:46:11.280
people or cause problems or anything else. It's truly a

872
00:46:11.280 --> 00:46:12.519
Brestheking story.

873
00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:18.360
Well, and to me, the whole white supremacy narrative took

874
00:46:18.519 --> 00:46:23.079
form because of what the Southern Poverty Law Center did

875
00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:25.960
and what they affected here with help of the mainstream media,

876
00:46:26.079 --> 00:46:29.440
mind you, and of course the Democrats and look at

877
00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:33.840
what happened in Charlottesville. How long, even to this day, deroy,

878
00:46:34.360 --> 00:46:38.679
you've got people echoing that false narrative in light of

879
00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:41.639
how bogus this is and how this is being exposed.

880
00:46:41.880 --> 00:46:44.840
I mean, nobody's offered an apology nothing. I mean, what

881
00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:47.400
they Donald Trump and what they accused him of. And

882
00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:51.119
this has all been the basis of this political rhetoric

883
00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:55.199
and this meanness and this incivility that is now I

884
00:46:55.320 --> 00:47:00.719
believe is responsible for three attempted assassinations in the current

885
00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:02.639
era of President Donald Trump.

886
00:47:03.800 --> 00:47:06.519
Yeah, I mean a big part of this is these

887
00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:10.280
guys as POC and others inventing racism where it doesn't exist,

888
00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:13.320
subsidizing so could be there when it wouldn't be otherwise.

889
00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:15.159
And then they turn around and say, oh my god,

890
00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:16.960
you know, Trump's a racist, Trump's a big at Trump,

891
00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:21.079
Trump's uh Nazi, Trump's hitler, et cetera. And some people

892
00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:26.000
hear that apparently this this guy uh from Torrents who

893
00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:28.880
showed up at the White House Correspondent's dinner on Saturday

894
00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:33.000
with I leave a pistol, a rifle or a shotgun, and.

895
00:47:33.119 --> 00:47:37.320
A knife three.

896
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:39.639
Even yeah, worse, three knives imagine if you've got been

897
00:47:39.679 --> 00:47:41.880
able to get through the door at the White House

898
00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:44.000
correspondents dinner an open fire, you could have picked up

899
00:47:44.039 --> 00:47:48.880
dozens of people, cabinet members, prominent journalists, possibly even the

900
00:47:48.880 --> 00:47:51.920
present United States, which of course was as objective. So

901
00:47:51.960 --> 00:47:54.519
this is this is awful stuff. And these people, if

902
00:47:54.559 --> 00:47:57.719
they would leave this alone, I would acknowledge that we've

903
00:47:57.719 --> 00:48:00.400
made such a tremendous progress in a race in this country.

904
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:02.519
I mean, remember, we had a black president for eight years.

905
00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:05.440
We've had two black sectoris at State, We've had two

906
00:48:05.519 --> 00:48:08.440
black attorneys general. We just had a black sectory of Defense,

907
00:48:09.079 --> 00:48:10.239
not a very good one, but he was in that

908
00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:14.199
position for all of Joe Biden's term. We have black CEOs.

909
00:48:14.360 --> 00:48:18.400
I just saw a wonderful movie yesterday, Michael Michael Jackson

910
00:48:18.440 --> 00:48:20.880
biopic that's apparently doing very well at the box office.

911
00:48:20.880 --> 00:48:22.760
People are lining up to go see that. I saw

912
00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:24.760
an IMAX, and iily recommend people see it in imax.

913
00:48:24.800 --> 00:48:28.000
It's really quite thrilling, no pun intended. And so people

914
00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:30.400
have a much better view of black folks than they

915
00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:34.559
did seventy five years ago. And rather than celebrate that

916
00:48:34.599 --> 00:48:36.800
and say this is terrific, let's keep that going as

917
00:48:36.880 --> 00:48:40.679
PLC is out there pretending that it's nineteen fifty eight

918
00:48:40.880 --> 00:48:44.920
and the bombs and the KKK bombs are going off

919
00:48:44.960 --> 00:48:47.880
in Bombingham, Alabama's used to call it and getting keep

920
00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:52.079
all scared and shook it up over racism that basically

921
00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:54.639
very likely wouldn't be there, would be much much more diminished.

922
00:48:54.800 --> 00:48:58.079
They weren't there busy subsidizing it with their own donors money.

923
00:48:58.360 --> 00:49:00.679
I means you can't, you just can't make the stuff up.

924
00:49:01.079 --> 00:49:03.159
Well, they had to freak out when Scotus, you know,

925
00:49:03.239 --> 00:49:05.920
came out with the decision that look at or at

926
00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:10.079
least an indication that racism is pretty well done. You

927
00:49:10.159 --> 00:49:14.920
know that we don't need to be jerry mandering states

928
00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:19.000
anymore based on racism because it just doesn't exist to

929
00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:20.000
your point, right.

930
00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:24.159
Yeah, it's much more diminished than than it was, for sure.

931
00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:26.920
And also one of the problems that these racially cherrymander

932
00:49:27.840 --> 00:49:29.880
districts and they say, well, you know, we have to

933
00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:32.800
have a congressman with a majority black population because of

934
00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:35.679
course only black people can represent other black people. Wow,

935
00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:38.199
that's quite interesting. Yeah, you know, I like to use

936
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:40.679
the example if you're a you know, black liberal Democrat,

937
00:49:40.920 --> 00:49:43.039
and you have the opportunity to vote, let's say, between

938
00:49:43.079 --> 00:49:46.599
Joe Biden theoretically match if Clarence Thomas were running for president.

939
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:48.679
These people say, well, I'm gonna vote for Joe Biden

940
00:49:48.719 --> 00:49:50.920
even though he's not black, because they represent his views

941
00:49:50.920 --> 00:49:52.840
more than Clarence Thomas Woods. I guess it really isn't

942
00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:55.719
about race. So this is this is basically a very

943
00:49:55.800 --> 00:49:59.079
racist concept that only black people can represent other black people,

944
00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:02.000
presumably only white can represent other whites. And that's that's

945
00:50:02.039 --> 00:50:05.800
just purely racist. And I'm really pleased that the Supreme

946
00:50:05.840 --> 00:50:08.719
Court has thrown that out. And with any luck, we

947
00:50:08.760 --> 00:50:11.760
can move on to having sensible districts in which anybody

948
00:50:11.760 --> 00:50:13.559
can run. And if you've got good ideas and you

949
00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:16.039
can present yourself well and represent the people in your

950
00:50:16.199 --> 00:50:18.440
in your community, then you get elected, not to oh

951
00:50:19.239 --> 00:50:21.519
you match my skin color, they're forming a vote for.

952
00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:23.800
You, exactly. Yeah, And I think there's some hope there.

953
00:50:23.840 --> 00:50:25.679
As you said, De Roy, is that you know, it's

954
00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:29.719
not to say that there aren't racists still around. Yes,

955
00:50:29.800 --> 00:50:32.800
there will always be racist still always will be, but

956
00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:36.960
but systemic racism, with all the laws and everything's gone out.

957
00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:39.960
I think, you know, look at this is a different

958
00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:42.559
type of America. And I'm encouraged by that, and it

959
00:50:42.599 --> 00:50:46.119
gives me a lot of hope and and yeah, you know,

960
00:50:46.159 --> 00:50:50.159
and I'm and I'm really encouraged that, you know, black

961
00:50:50.199 --> 00:50:53.480
America didn't go Black Lives Matter and start you know,

962
00:50:53.519 --> 00:50:56.239
burning buildings down over this stuff. Even they kind of

963
00:50:56.559 --> 00:51:01.719
resign themselves. And obviously, you know, the SBLC accepted that

964
00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:03.519
and they said, hey, we got to do something about this.

965
00:51:03.599 --> 00:51:06.320
And so then they create they create a problem that's

966
00:51:06.360 --> 00:51:07.360
not there anyway.

967
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:08.880
Two minutes left, I did want to talk.

968
00:51:09.199 --> 00:51:13.000
I think your article is so right on Republican House

969
00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:17.039
should fatten Senate GOP's bony reconciliation bill.

970
00:51:18.199 --> 00:51:21.320
Talk about that sure thing. Yeah, this is an article

971
00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:25.079
in Daily Signal, and I'm urging the House to put

972
00:51:25.119 --> 00:51:28.639
things in this reconciliation bill that came out of the Senate. Basically,

973
00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:31.920
reconciliation is a procedure to get things through the Senate

974
00:51:31.960 --> 00:51:35.480
with fifty votes or fifty plus the Vice President splitting

975
00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:37.400
a tie as opposed to sixty, which you need to

976
00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:39.880
overcome a filibuster. You can only do this two or

977
00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:42.280
three times a year. It's very rare, it's very complicated.

978
00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:45.320
And so what John Thunen did was take this reconciliation

979
00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:49.239
procedure to pay off people at the TSA and Border

980
00:51:49.280 --> 00:51:50.880
Patrol who have not been paid. And I think it's

981
00:51:50.920 --> 00:51:53.440
about ten weeks now. Now I'm sympathetic to that. But

982
00:51:53.719 --> 00:51:56.400
if you're going to do reconscilation bill, because they're so rare,

983
00:51:56.679 --> 00:51:58.480
he needs to put other things in it. He should

984
00:51:58.519 --> 00:52:00.840
have and he didn't. Now the House they should. I

985
00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:02.639
think they should try to put the Save America Act

986
00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:04.440
in there. And the way to do that is to

987
00:52:04.440 --> 00:52:08.800
put spending and other monetary or fiscal aspects to it. So,

988
00:52:08.840 --> 00:52:11.159
for example, money to make it possible for people to

989
00:52:11.199 --> 00:52:14.000
get free birth certificates, they need to register or get

990
00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:16.360
free photo ID if they don't have photo ID. If

991
00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:19.920
a state does not comply with the Save America Act,

992
00:52:19.960 --> 00:52:22.599
as imagine some Democrats, states might drag their dragular feet,

993
00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:25.320
they'd be bought to be fined ten million dollars a day.

994
00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:27.480
That's three point sixty five billion a year. And so

995
00:52:27.519 --> 00:52:29.400
if you have the Save America Act, basically I'm having

996
00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:31.079
money going in and out of it. It now becomes a

997
00:52:31.119 --> 00:52:35.719
fiscal vehicle which makes it qualified for reconciliation. They should

998
00:52:35.920 --> 00:52:38.199
be putting tax cuts in there. They should put something

999
00:52:38.280 --> 00:52:40.960
in that says the twenty thirty census. Will not ask,

1000
00:52:41.280 --> 00:52:43.800
will ask, or if you will, ask people if they're citizens.

1001
00:52:44.039 --> 00:52:45.639
And if you're not a citizen, you're not going to

1002
00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:47.840
be counted for reapportionment. You're not going to be counted

1003
00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:49.920
in terms of figuring out how many electoral College votes

1004
00:52:49.960 --> 00:52:51.519
the state has. You're not going to be counted in

1005
00:52:51.599 --> 00:52:54.280
terms of figure out how much federal tax money against

1006
00:52:54.320 --> 00:52:56.480
for various programs that should be in there too.

1007
00:52:56.880 --> 00:52:58.760
Well, the clock is running and there must be a

1008
00:52:58.800 --> 00:53:01.199
sense of urgency. I agree percent with you. He's the

1009
00:53:01.199 --> 00:53:05.519
Manhattan based Fox News contributor contributing editor at The American Spectator,

1010
00:53:05.599 --> 00:53:09.599
and check out his latest article at the Daily Signal

1011
00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:14.119
dot com. Bony reconciliation, Bill Deroy, Thank you, Bud, I

1012
00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:14.639
appreciate it.

1013
00:53:14.679 --> 00:53:15.000
Take care.

1014
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You've been a bill. Thank you very much.

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1034
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Six minutes after the top of the, hour right. Now

1035
00:54:29.719 --> 00:54:31.800
good to have you with, Us Bill martinez here along

1036
00:54:31.840 --> 00:54:37.920
With Epic Times Investigative, reporter award winning Journalist Joshua.

1037
00:54:37.960 --> 00:54:40.079
Phillip, joshua always good to have you with. Us how are?

1038
00:54:40.079 --> 00:54:43.719
You it's always a pleasure and interesting times as.

1039
00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:46.719
Always uh, well to say the, LEAST i mean the

1040
00:54:46.760 --> 00:54:50.880
straight At. HORMOES i guess Uh iran has surrendered a

1041
00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:53.800
little bit and said all, right we'll play nice.

1042
00:54:53.559 --> 00:54:55.719
And we'll leave it. Open and the stock market is going.

1043
00:54:55.800 --> 00:54:59.000
Crazy you know my take on.

1044
00:54:59.079 --> 00:55:02.199
It, yeah didn't open the strait of home. Moves china

1045
00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:05.920
Forced iran to open The strait Of hormblus BECAUSE i

1046
00:55:05.920 --> 00:55:09.920
Think trump When, trump When trump moved in and blockaded the,

1047
00:55:09.960 --> 00:55:12.960
blockade all he was really doing was blocking the oil

1048
00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:17.440
going To China. Iran iran was letting that. Through trump,

1049
00:55:17.480 --> 00:55:20.079
said no more of. This i'm blocking it unless you,

1050
00:55:20.119 --> 00:55:22.519
want unless you really want to unblock, it meaning no

1051
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:25.199
oil To china or an oil To china and everybody.

1052
00:55:25.239 --> 00:55:28.800
Else it's off the. TABLE i think THE ccp forced

1053
00:55:28.800 --> 00:55:30.239
the hand to be run on it because of.

1054
00:55:30.239 --> 00:55:32.440
That what a brilliant, move huh From.

1055
00:55:32.480 --> 00:55:36.039
Trump It's it's WHAT i was suggesting he should, do

1056
00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:39.760
BECAUSE i was actually, saying it's ridiculous That trump is,

1057
00:55:39.800 --> 00:55:42.559
allowing you, Know iran to ship oil To china still

1058
00:55:42.599 --> 00:55:45.119
despite the whole, blockade like they you, know they should

1059
00:55:45.119 --> 00:55:48.400
be intercepting The iranian. SHIPS i THINK i think his

1060
00:55:48.519 --> 00:55:51.920
move just blocking it was smarter than intercepting.

1061
00:55:51.960 --> 00:55:57.480
Ships, Well, uh how's your confidence level with the negotiators For?

1062
00:55:57.599 --> 00:55:59.519
Iran are? You are, you like, me still a bit

1063
00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:00.920
dubious or maybe a lot.

1064
00:56:01.039 --> 00:56:04.320
Dubious, well you, Know i've said it before And i'll

1065
00:56:04.360 --> 00:56:08.599
say it. Again iran is not an independent. Country they're

1066
00:56:08.719 --> 00:56:11.840
very much dependent On. CHINA a lot of a lot

1067
00:56:11.840 --> 00:56:14.400
of their diplomatic decisions will be the decisions of The

1068
00:56:14.480 --> 00:56:18.000
Chinese Communist. Party AND i think the reality Is trump's

1069
00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:20.719
Have trump has an upcoming meeting With Shi Jing ping right,

1070
00:56:20.760 --> 00:56:26.000
NOW ccp. Leader they don't want to fumble that because

1071
00:56:26.000 --> 00:56:29.079
The chinese economy is kind of dying right. Now THE

1072
00:56:29.119 --> 00:56:31.639
ccp is even trying To they even have new laws

1073
00:56:31.639 --> 00:56:35.800
in place to prevent businesses from Leaving, china Like american.

1074
00:56:35.840 --> 00:56:39.679
Manufacturers their real estate industry is, dead oil is basically.

1075
00:56:39.760 --> 00:56:44.239
Dead like they're really they're really, suffering and they can't

1076
00:56:44.280 --> 00:56:48.280
afford the straight Of hermus being locked. DOWN i don't

1077
00:56:48.280 --> 00:56:50.280
think they care so much about the terrorism. Thing you,

1078
00:56:50.280 --> 00:56:52.760
Know china they actually help with a lot of, it

1079
00:56:53.519 --> 00:56:55.920
but they. Can't they cannot have the straight Of hermus.

1080
00:56:55.960 --> 00:56:58.440
Lockdown SO i think they will force the hand Of.

1081
00:56:58.480 --> 00:57:00.880
Iran they're even saying that he runs willing to get

1082
00:57:00.960 --> 00:57:04.199
willing to willing to get rid of their nuclear. Programs

1083
00:57:04.239 --> 00:57:06.920
BUT i think also oversight is going to be a

1084
00:57:06.960 --> 00:57:07.559
huge part in.

1085
00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:10.119
That, well the other thing that got exposed in all

1086
00:57:10.159 --> 00:57:15.840
this is that the CCP's military industrial complex quite.

1087
00:57:15.880 --> 00:57:21.159
Lacking huh, yeah, well you know that's been a big

1088
00:57:21.159 --> 00:57:25.239
scandal In. CHINA i can tell you Among china watchers

1089
00:57:25.280 --> 00:57:28.079
there's actually been news it freaked out THE ccp like

1090
00:57:28.119 --> 00:57:32.559
they Were actually they were actually. Shocked so When trump

1091
00:57:32.639 --> 00:57:36.400
went in and Captured, maduro that was a shock to.

1092
00:57:36.440 --> 00:57:38.639
Them and When trump went in and killed The iranian,

1093
00:57:38.719 --> 00:57:41.519
leadership that was another shock to. Him and basically here's

1094
00:57:41.559 --> 00:57:45.920
Why china had been selling these countries missile defense. Systems

1095
00:57:46.039 --> 00:57:48.039
they've been selling them systems where they, said you, know

1096
00:57:48.119 --> 00:57:51.119
this will take down The american. Aircraft we can detect

1097
00:57:51.119 --> 00:57:54.679
fifth generation fighter. Jets this will protect. You we have

1098
00:57:54.719 --> 00:57:57.239
anti air, systems they'll blow them out of the. Sky

1099
00:57:57.880 --> 00:58:00.920
they were selling their allies all these things they said

1100
00:58:00.960 --> 00:58:04.639
were basically designed to prevent attacks from The United states

1101
00:58:04.639 --> 00:58:07.199
and to fight off The United. States they also had

1102
00:58:07.280 --> 00:58:10.840
anti ship, missiles they had all kinds of technologies basically were,

1103
00:58:10.880 --> 00:58:13.559
saying you, Know america starts a, War we're going to

1104
00:58:13.559 --> 00:58:16.960
destroy their entire, navy and there's no countermeasures for anti ship.

1105
00:58:17.000 --> 00:58:20.760
Missiles we saw that none of that, worked none of.

1106
00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:23.760
It they didn't blow up a single ship despite the

1107
00:58:23.760 --> 00:58:27.400
fake reports going. Around the missile defense systems did not,

1108
00:58:27.519 --> 00:58:31.679
work the radar systems did not. Work basically nothing. Worked

1109
00:58:32.079 --> 00:58:35.639
and for THE, ccp that's a big deal because that

1110
00:58:35.800 --> 00:58:39.440
means that basically their, military you, know their weapons developers

1111
00:58:39.440 --> 00:58:43.000
were selling them snake. Oil there are reports now that

1112
00:58:43.079 --> 00:58:45.360
Chi jinping actually had the guy who made THE j,

1113
00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:48.599
twenty which is their fifth generation fighter, jet allegedly had

1114
00:58:48.639 --> 00:58:48.960
the guy.

1115
00:58:49.079 --> 00:58:50.599
Killed that's WHAT i. Heard, yeah.

1116
00:58:50.639 --> 00:58:54.440
Exactly, yeah it's. Good and it's not just them that

1117
00:58:54.519 --> 00:58:57.320
they've been doing. Reviews they're finding missiles like just that

1118
00:58:57.679 --> 00:59:00.320
have been filled with. Water, yeah they, have they have,

1119
00:59:00.400 --> 00:59:03.360
missile they have weapons systems that are non. Functional it's

1120
00:59:03.400 --> 00:59:07.360
like just graft and people stealing. Money and not only,

1121
00:59:07.400 --> 00:59:09.840
that like the review of The chinese, militaries you're showing

1122
00:59:09.880 --> 00:59:13.559
all these. Problems not only that reports are coming out

1123
00:59:13.599 --> 00:59:18.599
now also The Chinese Communist party is terrified because their

1124
00:59:18.639 --> 00:59:22.119
whole narrative was the decline of The. West it, was

1125
00:59:22.199 --> 00:59:23.880
and that was what you heard in The United states.

1126
00:59:23.880 --> 00:59:25.760
Too it was this whole like you, know great power,

1127
00:59:25.840 --> 00:59:29.920
competition you, know a declining empire and a rising. Empire

1128
00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:31.960
they thought that declining empire Was america and the rising

1129
00:59:31.960 --> 00:59:35.679
empire Was. China, basically that whole narrative is. Done. Now they're, like,

1130
00:59:35.760 --> 00:59:40.639
No america made a, comeback and the entire narrative they

1131
00:59:40.719 --> 00:59:42.880
had on the rise Of china is basically.

1132
00:59:42.920 --> 00:59:46.840
Over, well not Only, China, joshua but look at The european.

1133
00:59:46.920 --> 00:59:50.719
NATIONS i, Mean Joe biden had Brought america so close

1134
00:59:50.840 --> 00:59:54.679
terms of you, KNOW gdp and development everything and then

1135
00:59:55.039 --> 00:59:58.519
all but now a new president and this country gets.

1136
00:59:58.639 --> 01:00:01.360
Jettisoned and, look but look what's. HAPPENING i, mean we're

1137
01:00:01.360 --> 01:00:06.360
heading shoulders to. Everybody china's, Exposed russia's, Exposed china's. Navy

1138
01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:09.039
look at their. NAVY i mean it's. Sparsacle they've built

1139
01:00:09.079 --> 01:00:11.639
up all these, boats and you, wonder, okay if there

1140
01:00:11.639 --> 01:00:14.840
are anything like the missile system that they, developed what's

1141
01:00:14.880 --> 01:00:15.639
going to happen with these?

1142
01:00:15.679 --> 01:00:19.639
Boats so this is what's left out of the discussion

1143
01:00:19.639 --> 01:00:22.519
on The chinese. Navy they don't really have deep water.

1144
01:00:22.599 --> 01:00:26.119
Capabilities they're not really present. THERE a lot of their

1145
01:00:26.159 --> 01:00:30.280
ships are coast guard ships and retro fitted fishing boats

1146
01:00:30.559 --> 01:00:33.920
that they basically label as part of their coast. Guard you,

1147
01:00:33.960 --> 01:00:36.679
know they label lot of their battleships along those. Lines

1148
01:00:37.079 --> 01:00:42.159
they're not you, KNOW i understand they have even submarine.

1149
01:00:42.199 --> 01:00:50.639
Technology they're, loud which anybody who understands submarines kind of

1150
01:00:50.679 --> 01:00:53.920
defeats the. Purposes put it that, way a lot of

1151
01:00:53.960 --> 01:00:58.159
their systems are not hardened against modern. Technologies and What

1152
01:00:58.199 --> 01:01:01.719
america's demonstrating now is, basically electronic warfare is the. Future

1153
01:01:02.519 --> 01:01:05.440
if if your weapons systems are not hardened against electronic,

1154
01:01:05.559 --> 01:01:09.360
warfare they they can zap in you, know let's put

1155
01:01:09.400 --> 01:01:11.679
it this. WAY a lot of people to know. This

1156
01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:15.719
if you have a car that has you, know those

1157
01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:18.320
circuits in, it you, know you open up a little

1158
01:01:18.400 --> 01:01:21.199
part and it shows that you know the different you,

1159
01:01:21.199 --> 01:01:25.280
know different circuits and, stuff your car is susceptible to

1160
01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:28.519
an E. Mph so if for if for, example there

1161
01:01:28.519 --> 01:01:31.360
was AN emp, attack it would actually break the cars

1162
01:01:31.719 --> 01:01:35.519
in any any car aside from like very old models

1163
01:01:35.679 --> 01:01:38.639
would be dead on the. Road the same exact thing

1164
01:01:38.679 --> 01:01:41.840
goes for, jets same thing goes for, airplane same thing

1165
01:01:41.880 --> 01:01:45.440
goes for, tanks same thing goes for fighter you, know

1166
01:01:45.559 --> 01:01:48.840
boats and everything. Else, basically unless you're hardened against electronic,

1167
01:01:48.920 --> 01:01:54.360
warfare nothing you have can stand on a modern battlefield

1168
01:01:54.519 --> 01:01:59.599
where electronic warfare capable of doing emp like. That, uh it,

1169
01:02:00.119 --> 01:02:04.360
exists and so that which basically means fifth generation or.

1170
01:02:04.400 --> 01:02:06.800
Above and we found out the whole fifth generation thing

1171
01:02:06.880 --> 01:02:11.400
For china was a. Farce their military is useless effectively

1172
01:02:11.400 --> 01:02:13.360
against The United. States AND i know that sounds crazy

1173
01:02:13.400 --> 01:02:17.920
for some. People case in, point we can look at

1174
01:02:17.960 --> 01:02:21.239
how Well russia is doing Against. Ukraine they're losing what

1175
01:02:21.400 --> 01:02:24.599
like forty thousand people a. Month it's it's. Insane the

1176
01:02:25.039 --> 01:02:30.760
death toll is. Astronomical their tanks are basically off the,

1177
01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:34.920
battlefield their their air control basically off the. Battlefield The

1178
01:02:35.039 --> 01:02:39.440
chinese military is lower in technology than The. Russians it's

1179
01:02:39.480 --> 01:02:42.119
Why china has to buy their jet engines From. Russia

1180
01:02:42.199 --> 01:02:44.400
they can't even build the Stuff russia.

1181
01:02:44.400 --> 01:02:51.599
Builds, wow it's, uh you know again What Donald trump has.

1182
01:02:51.639 --> 01:02:55.119
Done he's been an agent of exposure on so many,

1183
01:02:55.199 --> 01:02:59.199
levels And china, especially no doubt about. It and there's

1184
01:02:59.239 --> 01:03:02.039
more to be veiled, here and this is also why

1185
01:03:02.440 --> 01:03:04.679
the space race again is so. CRITICAL i want to

1186
01:03:04.679 --> 01:03:06.840
talk about that when we come back more From joshua

1187
01:03:06.880 --> 01:03:07.559
after this stay with.

1188
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You Bill martinez here With Joshua, philip the host Of

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crossroads and senior investigative reporter with The Epoch. Times let's

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talk about the space. Race What america was able to

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do With artemis. TWO i, mean in so many, WAYS

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i think we can have a little bit of a

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bread and inhale and, say oh, my this is what

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being united feels like a little bit.

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Right oh, Yeah well you know why this matters so? Much,

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well first of, All china was, thinking, okay Like earth

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01:08:12.079 --> 01:08:14.760
moon system is. Ours And i'll get into why that really.

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01:08:14.800 --> 01:08:19.880
Matters there's a race right now basically over who is

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going to own the water on the moon because because

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they found. It you, know the moon is pretty, big

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and anybody ever like overlay The moon with like The United,

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states it's like it's. Big you, know you're talking like

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it's it's like as big as The United states, basically,

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right it's a big place as you might, Expect But

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china basically has ambitions to populate and control resources on The.

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Moon in, particular they want helium three and they want

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01:08:49.199 --> 01:08:52.720
they want, water. Hydrogen and the reason they want that

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01:08:53.000 --> 01:08:55.600
helium three there's a lot of experience right now in

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01:08:55.640 --> 01:09:00.439
fusion fusion, energy and you need you need helium three fusion.

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Energy they believe that if they can build a base

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01:09:02.279 --> 01:09:05.760
in The, moon they can mine for helium, three massive,

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01:09:05.800 --> 01:09:07.680
resource and if that's going to be the future of,

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01:09:07.760 --> 01:09:10.199
energy which is it's experimental that they. Don't they can't

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quite do. It they their, breakthroughs but that will overtake

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01:09:13.399 --> 01:09:16.279
nuclear if they, can if they can make fusion, work

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01:09:16.680 --> 01:09:19.760
that will be the world's new. Energy and The moon

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is covered in helium, three which which they need for,

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01:09:24.199 --> 01:09:28.319
that they also need hydrogen and the moon has. Hydrogen

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why do they need? That the problem you have with

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deep space travel is rocket. Propulsion you, know of course

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we've all seen when they do when they do the initial,

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01:09:37.359 --> 01:09:41.119
takeoffs they drop the. Propulsions breaking out of The earth's

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atmosphere takes a huge amount of energy and basically the

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if you if you do payloads where you have enough

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propulsion to go to deep, space the amount of the

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amount of resources you need to lift that off is

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astronomical and it's just it's not really. Feasible so the

1315
01:10:01.359 --> 01:10:04.399
idea is they could build a secondary kind of launch

1316
01:10:04.479 --> 01:10:07.439
pad on The, moon and then you need an energy.

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01:10:07.479 --> 01:10:11.039
Source of, course you, know we can bring stuff, there

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01:10:11.720 --> 01:10:13.680
but if it's already, there it's. Better and so they're

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01:10:13.680 --> 01:10:18.000
looking at hydrogen energy, hydrogen and so The moon has.

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That there's a race now over who controls. That so

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01:10:22.479 --> 01:10:24.760
The United states is looking at a multi nation, model

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01:10:25.039 --> 01:10:28.640
not Involving. China china says they basically want to own.

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It and what you have right, now After america did

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01:10:31.279 --> 01:10:35.399
this fly around to The, Moon china is actually sending

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01:10:35.439 --> 01:10:37.920
their own ship, there not. Manned it's going to have

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01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:40.520
like a little bot on. It and there's concerned they

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01:10:40.600 --> 01:10:42.640
might actually try, to you, know plant a Little chinese

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01:10:42.680 --> 01:10:45.960
flag somewhere and just claim. Territory because right now The

1329
01:10:46.039 --> 01:10:47.960
United states is, saying the next trip we have to The,

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01:10:47.960 --> 01:10:51.119
moon which is very, soon we're going there to. Stay

1331
01:10:51.640 --> 01:10:55.039
so there's a race to own parts of The moon right.

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01:10:55.079 --> 01:10:58.840
Now so if they plant a flag that gives them

1333
01:10:58.880 --> 01:11:05.800
some juris jur jurisdictional uh you, know uh rights in that.

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01:11:06.720 --> 01:11:11.000
WELL i, mean how has it ever? DONE i.

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01:11:11.039 --> 01:11:13.439
GUESS i mean it's, like, OKAY i went there on

1336
01:11:13.520 --> 01:11:14.680
the first one to plan a flag.

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01:11:14.720 --> 01:11:17.640
THERE i mean it's it's, like how do you declare

1338
01:11:17.680 --> 01:11:21.600
how do you declare ownership over any? TERRITORY i mean basically, basically,

1339
01:11:21.680 --> 01:11:25.159
yeah you put a flag on, it or or maybe

1340
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at most you, uh you, know you you grab some

1341
01:11:28.920 --> 01:11:32.439
twine and you know part you, know section off an. Area,

1342
01:11:34.239 --> 01:11:35.960
basically this is What china has been doing in The

1343
01:11:35.960 --> 01:11:39.079
South China, sea always going to say they're they're building little,

1344
01:11:39.079 --> 01:11:42.039
infrastructure they're leading stuff. There they could say, that, hey

1345
01:11:42.079 --> 01:11:44.439
we have a we have an you, know an easy

1346
01:11:44.520 --> 01:11:48.399
and exclusive economic zone around our, flag and we claim

1347
01:11:48.439 --> 01:11:51.960
this entire. Area, now they're not racing to own the Entire.

1348
01:11:52.039 --> 01:11:55.720
Moon there's a race to own these this one area

1349
01:11:56.079 --> 01:11:59.079
where all the hydrogen has been. Found and so that

1350
01:11:59.239 --> 01:12:01.319
that's what everybody is kind of gunning for right. Now

1351
01:12:01.640 --> 01:12:04.920
and it's basically first, come first. Serve whoever whoever gets

1352
01:12:04.960 --> 01:12:06.439
there first is the one that's going to own.

1353
01:12:06.479 --> 01:12:11.359
It so you think that with their bought that somehow

1354
01:12:11.399 --> 01:12:13.960
they can find a way to you, know then claim

1355
01:12:14.039 --> 01:12:15.079
some claim some.

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01:12:15.159 --> 01:12:16.880
Territory there very.

1357
01:12:16.920 --> 01:12:20.279
Possible. Uh there's also been a long term concern over

1358
01:12:20.319 --> 01:12:23.600
what's called The Earth moon, system so not just not

1359
01:12:23.800 --> 01:12:27.079
just you, Know earth and The, moon but the space in.

1360
01:12:27.159 --> 01:12:31.079
Between and you, know basically there's been if you read

1361
01:12:31.079 --> 01:12:33.119
a lot of like military, writings there's been concerned That

1362
01:12:33.199 --> 01:12:37.399
china is trying to basically claim ownership over entire. Orbits

1363
01:12:38.479 --> 01:12:41.319
they can, say we own this. Orbit if you want

1364
01:12:41.359 --> 01:12:43.640
to pass through this, orbit you need to pay us a,

1365
01:12:43.680 --> 01:12:47.159
fee you, know like The strait Of hormuz for, exactly

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01:12:47.800 --> 01:12:50.600
you have to pay a. Toll and if and if

1367
01:12:50.640 --> 01:12:54.359
we say you can't access, it just like just Like

1368
01:12:54.439 --> 01:12:57.520
iran blockade of The straight Of, hormones why can't you

1369
01:12:57.600 --> 01:13:01.239
blockade an Orbit and and so there's a concern that,

1370
01:13:01.279 --> 01:13:04.000
whoever if you can claim an, orbit or if you

1371
01:13:04.039 --> 01:13:07.399
can if you can claim regions between The earth and The,

1372
01:13:07.399 --> 01:13:10.920
moon it could work basically is the same, thing, right

1373
01:13:11.239 --> 01:13:14.800
and even more, so if you can weaponize, space you

1374
01:13:14.840 --> 01:13:17.439
put you put a missile in. Space basically that eliminates

1375
01:13:17.479 --> 01:13:21.319
the problem of ballistic missiles where you, know the time

1376
01:13:21.359 --> 01:13:24.119
you intercept them is when is when they go into the. Atmosphere,

1377
01:13:24.199 --> 01:13:29.560
right it eliminates that problem you would if you put

1378
01:13:29.640 --> 01:13:32.359
missiles in, space like ballistic missiles in, SPACE i guess

1379
01:13:32.399 --> 01:13:36.399
you need to do. Ballistic you can't intercept. Them and

1380
01:13:36.479 --> 01:13:40.720
so when it comes to missile, defense nuclear, deterrence, trade

1381
01:13:40.960 --> 01:13:44.239
the future of space, travel whoever controls The Earth moon

1382
01:13:44.279 --> 01:13:50.680
system and the hydrogen hydrogen on The moon basically controls the. Future, wow.

1383
01:13:53.279 --> 01:13:55.560
What do you think five ten, years twenty?

1384
01:13:55.640 --> 01:14:01.359
Years, WELL i don't think they're willing to wait that. Long, China,

1385
01:14:01.640 --> 01:14:03.640
CHINA i, know BUT i mean before we start.

1386
01:14:03.680 --> 01:14:06.359
REALIZING i mean this this sounds like the comic Book

1387
01:14:06.399 --> 01:14:07.960
Sci Fi is that you AND i read when we

1388
01:14:07.960 --> 01:14:08.359
were growing.

1389
01:14:08.439 --> 01:14:12.159
Up, Right, well so here's the. Thing this is not

1390
01:14:12.239 --> 01:14:15.159
a new. Discussion it's just it's just it hasn't really

1391
01:14:15.199 --> 01:14:19.880
been talked about broadly until. Recently like if you read

1392
01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:22.279
a lot of you, know for, example the reason if

1393
01:14:22.279 --> 01:14:24.359
you read Like Space, force you, know which is a

1394
01:14:24.399 --> 01:14:27.760
military branch now type, documents or if you read documents

1395
01:14:27.800 --> 01:14:30.560
on you, Know china watch From china. Watchers they've been

1396
01:14:30.600 --> 01:14:35.239
talking about this for like ten fifteen. Years chinese military.

1397
01:14:35.279 --> 01:14:38.640
Documents they very openly talk about. This this has been their.

1398
01:14:38.640 --> 01:14:41.399
Ambition it's talked about a lot in, like you, know

1399
01:14:41.479 --> 01:14:46.560
defense communities is the future major, threat Right and we're

1400
01:14:46.640 --> 01:14:49.279
basically at a point now WHERE i don't know if

1401
01:14:49.319 --> 01:14:53.279
we waited too, long but it's it's kind of do

1402
01:14:53.439 --> 01:14:55.760
or die right. Now and that's WHY i think we

1403
01:14:55.800 --> 01:14:59.199
have a very legitimate moon. Race like what is at

1404
01:14:59.199 --> 01:15:01.800
stake right? Now this moon race is greater than The

1405
01:15:01.800 --> 01:15:04.279
moon race of The Cold war because it's not just

1406
01:15:04.319 --> 01:15:07.319
A prs. Thing this is about. Ownership this this is

1407
01:15:07.359 --> 01:15:08.199
playing for keeps.

1408
01:15:08.800 --> 01:15:12.000
Well AND i Know americans were really surprised at how

1409
01:15:12.079 --> 01:15:14.039
Quick artemis came in the. Scene it was like we

1410
01:15:14.079 --> 01:15:15.520
hadn't heard a lot about, it and all of a, sudden,

1411
01:15:15.560 --> 01:15:18.479
Boom we're going to the moon and and it's all

1412
01:15:18.520 --> 01:15:21.399
it's this has all happened in the first year Of

1413
01:15:21.439 --> 01:15:24.119
Donald trump's you, know new, administration right.

1414
01:15:24.880 --> 01:15:28.279
Yep and so that's the thing, too you, KNOW i

1415
01:15:28.319 --> 01:15:31.960
think what's also being debated here is the difference between

1416
01:15:32.079 --> 01:15:36.600
privately owned or government owned space travel versus privately owned space.

1417
01:15:36.640 --> 01:15:40.239
Travel you're kind of, watching you, know communism and capitalism

1418
01:15:40.319 --> 01:15:42.600
go to a head And china that's all heavily controlled

1419
01:15:42.600 --> 01:15:47.359
by the. Government there's questions over how legitimate their space programs,

1420
01:15:47.399 --> 01:15:50.960
are and people, say, well DID nasa frame this? Stuff

1421
01:15:51.199 --> 01:15:53.199
there's a lot more evidence That china has been fake and.

1422
01:15:53.199 --> 01:15:57.680
Stuff it's kind of a joke in like The chinese medicine.

1423
01:15:57.680 --> 01:16:01.279
Community but you, know In, america of, course we have

1424
01:16:01.279 --> 01:16:04.720
a lot of private business feeding space. TECHNOLOGY i, mean

1425
01:16:04.840 --> 01:16:05.760
look at look at the just.

1426
01:16:07.399 --> 01:16:10.520
What's going to mean For Jeff bezos and musk, right go,

1427
01:16:10.520 --> 01:16:11.039
Ahead i'm.

1428
01:16:11.039 --> 01:16:14.159
Sorry, well you, know the commercialization of space means they're

1429
01:16:14.159 --> 01:16:17.079
trying to find ways to make space. Profitable and if

1430
01:16:17.119 --> 01:16:20.560
you want to make space, profitable that, means, hey if

1431
01:16:20.600 --> 01:16:24.800
you mine an, asteroid the amount of resources you're going

1432
01:16:24.840 --> 01:16:29.279
to be looking at would would would basically replace the

1433
01:16:29.439 --> 01:16:31.560
entire wealth of the of the world as we know,

1434
01:16:31.720 --> 01:16:36.000
it you know, us.

1435
01:16:36.000 --> 01:16:38.720
That's that's lots of lots of tesselass they could be

1436
01:16:38.760 --> 01:16:40.680
produced right, Potentially oh.

1437
01:16:40.720 --> 01:16:43.720
Absolutely and also you know that the moon right, now

1438
01:16:45.640 --> 01:16:48.680
what what is valuable for the moon is. Energy the

1439
01:16:48.680 --> 01:16:51.600
moon is about. Energy the moon is about again helium

1440
01:16:51.640 --> 01:16:56.239
three and. Hydrogen they want that for, energy and that's

1441
01:16:56.239 --> 01:16:59.359
going to be relevant to asteroid. Mining that's going to

1442
01:16:59.399 --> 01:17:01.560
be relevant to long term, basing that's going to be

1443
01:17:01.600 --> 01:17:07.000
relevant to building additional economic models in. Space it's going

1444
01:17:07.000 --> 01:17:09.680
to be relevant to you, know establishing a base there

1445
01:17:09.800 --> 01:17:14.920
and doing scientific research like, like the significance of it

1446
01:17:14.640 --> 01:17:18.560
is very is very. Real and, again if you have

1447
01:17:18.640 --> 01:17:20.359
businesses going, there it means they're going to look to

1448
01:17:20.479 --> 01:17:23.079
Xp they're going to look to exploit. That china's also

1449
01:17:23.119 --> 01:17:25.560
talked about mining The, moon and SO i think ALSO

1450
01:17:25.760 --> 01:17:28.159
i wouldn't be surprised at bezos FROM us would start

1451
01:17:28.199 --> 01:17:30.399
talking also about mining mining on The.

1452
01:17:30.439 --> 01:17:34.600
Moon, yeah without a. Doubt, Well joshua has always appreciate the.

1453
01:17:34.600 --> 01:17:38.000
Insight this is, exciting you, know you think about you,

1454
01:17:38.039 --> 01:17:41.359
know what's coming here and and what the next, generation

1455
01:17:41.520 --> 01:17:44.439
the next two, generations what they're going to experience as

1456
01:17:44.479 --> 01:17:48.319
this space race. Continues and it's all because right, now

1457
01:17:48.359 --> 01:17:51.159
it's all because Of Donald trump and one party over the.

1458
01:17:51.159 --> 01:17:53.680
OTHER i just can't imagine The democrats having the capacity

1459
01:17:53.680 --> 01:17:54.479
to even consider.

1460
01:17:54.520 --> 01:17:58.600
This, yeah well hopefully to keep it because the other

1461
01:17:58.800 --> 01:18:01.199
there's a lot at. Stake always a pleasure of being.

1462
01:18:01.199 --> 01:18:02.039
Here thank you, Well.

1463
01:18:02.119 --> 01:18:05.279
Joshua, philip the host Of crossroads and senior investigative reporter

1464
01:18:05.520 --> 01:18:07.640
with The Epic. Times thank, You, joshua take care of

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you well.

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Patriots, hey welcome, Back glad you can join us right

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here On Bill Martinez. Live we've got Doctor Ted bear

1531
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of the one And only From, Movieguide Doctor.

1532
01:21:52.880 --> 01:21:53.640
Ted how are we doing?

1533
01:21:54.600 --> 01:21:57.239
Well you, know ANYTIME i say That i'm talking to,

1534
01:21:57.279 --> 01:21:59.840
You i'm doing well Because i'm still live to talk to,

1535
01:21:59.880 --> 01:22:04.119
you which is a major breakthrough in. Reality but you.

1536
01:22:04.079 --> 01:22:05.560
Really you realize what it's going to be like in.

1537
01:22:05.600 --> 01:22:06.640
HEAVEN i, mean we're gonna have.

1538
01:22:06.680 --> 01:22:09.520
Fun, OH i can't. WAIT i can't wait to See lily.

1539
01:22:09.560 --> 01:22:12.399
AGAIN i wait to see my. Father IF i led To,

1540
01:22:12.479 --> 01:22:15.880
CHRIST i can't wait to see you know some of my,

1541
01:22:16.039 --> 01:22:20.399
friends the ones that came To. Christ so, YES i can't. Wait,

1542
01:22:20.960 --> 01:22:24.039
well and here it, is so SHOULD i go now or?

1543
01:22:25.520 --> 01:22:28.479
Well you, know, hey On god's. Timing you, know he

1544
01:22:28.520 --> 01:22:29.399
wants us around for.

1545
01:22:29.359 --> 01:22:34.640
A particular, reason because we're drawing nigh every, Day we're

1546
01:22:34.680 --> 01:22:35.399
getting closer and.

1547
01:22:35.439 --> 01:22:37.560
Closer you see it happening overseas in that.

1548
01:22:37.640 --> 01:22:42.000
Right i'm not worried about the. Future i'm not worried

1549
01:22:42.039 --> 01:22:44.279
about going to. Heaven i'm not worried about any of

1550
01:22:44.279 --> 01:22:46.279
that BECAUSE i Love jesus and he loves, me and

1551
01:22:46.840 --> 01:22:52.319
we have a mutual supporting. Relationship and it says crocodile

1552
01:22:52.439 --> 01:22:55.800
dundee one Said, jesus AND i mean. Buds so we're.

1553
01:22:55.880 --> 01:22:59.760
Buds but the thing THAT i don't like is, pain you,

1554
01:22:59.800 --> 01:23:02.840
Know so, today this morning is one of those days

1555
01:23:02.880 --> 01:23:05.960
with a lot of. Pain so that's you, know comes

1556
01:23:05.960 --> 01:23:06.520
from that's.

1557
01:23:06.560 --> 01:23:09.199
All that's only to remind you that Come heaven, time

1558
01:23:09.239 --> 01:23:12.720
there's no. Pain Right so but, anyway that that set.

1559
01:23:12.760 --> 01:23:15.600
ASIDE i Told god there are two types of, people you.

1560
01:23:15.640 --> 01:23:21.279
Know there's the uh Like Balem's balem's, Donkey.

1561
01:23:21.279 --> 01:23:21.960
Yes, right, right.

1562
01:23:22.119 --> 01:23:25.159
Exactly, yeah there's a carrot people and the stick. People

1563
01:23:25.239 --> 01:23:27.760
remember he kept hitting his donkey and then the doggy

1564
01:23:27.840 --> 01:23:30.079
talked to. Him AND i keep saying To, God i'm

1565
01:23:30.119 --> 01:23:33.000
a carrot. PERSON i don't need the, stick you, KNOW

1566
01:23:33.079 --> 01:23:35.439
i don't need the. Pain just take me when you.

1567
01:23:35.479 --> 01:23:39.399
Want let it be quiet and. COMFORTABLE i think he's

1568
01:23:39.439 --> 01:23:41.880
got other, plans and you, Know i'm trying to figure

1569
01:23:41.880 --> 01:23:46.800
out WHETHER i could communicate this this THAT i think look.

1570
01:23:46.840 --> 01:23:49.760
AT i think that's a worthy, prayer is that we

1571
01:23:49.800 --> 01:23:54.279
would have a, peaceful peaceful, death AND i saw. That

1572
01:23:54.319 --> 01:23:56.560
one of my devotionals said, that, well you, Know i've

1573
01:23:56.600 --> 01:23:58.560
never thought of it that, way BUT i think that's

1574
01:23:58.560 --> 01:23:59.199
an excellent.

1575
01:23:59.239 --> 01:24:00.680
Request why NOT i do?

1576
01:24:00.800 --> 01:24:04.119
Too lily did my Wife lily did On may. Fifth,

1577
01:24:04.239 --> 01:24:06.960
anyway let's go talk about. Movies Sheep.

1578
01:24:07.000 --> 01:24:09.520
Detective, huh, well let's start with.

1579
01:24:09.560 --> 01:24:12.680
That you, Know Sheep, detective and if you go to

1580
01:24:12.760 --> 01:24:16.039
movieguide dot org you'll see a lot about. It It's Hugh.

1581
01:24:16.159 --> 01:24:20.920
Jackman Hugh jackman's father came To christ Through Billy. Graham

1582
01:24:21.359 --> 01:24:26.760
Hugh jackman quite often chooses projects With christian. Content but you,

1583
01:24:26.800 --> 01:24:30.199
know here's a shepherd of the sheep who reads to the.

1584
01:24:30.239 --> 01:24:32.960
SHEEP i wonder where the shepherd of the sheep is

1585
01:24:33.199 --> 01:24:37.960
The it's throughout The, bible from From david down To,

1586
01:24:38.039 --> 01:24:41.720
jesus and he lays down his life for the, sheep

1587
01:24:42.039 --> 01:24:44.600
and then the sheep have to find out who done?

1588
01:24:44.640 --> 01:24:47.960
It and, uh it's it's an excellent. Movie you, KNOW

1589
01:24:48.560 --> 01:24:50.920
a couple of us have seen it and we love

1590
01:24:50.920 --> 01:24:54.279
it AND i recommend. It it does have some caution

1591
01:24:55.439 --> 01:24:58.239
because it's a who done it and there is some

1592
01:24:58.359 --> 01:25:02.800
violence and some you, know so i'd say little children

1593
01:25:02.840 --> 01:25:05.640
probably don't want to see the sheep getting you, know,

1594
01:25:06.000 --> 01:25:10.399
mauled and the sheep shepherd getting in trouble and he,

1595
01:25:10.439 --> 01:25:14.079
dies but he's dying for his, sheep which is a

1596
01:25:14.159 --> 01:25:16.920
Very there's a lot of biblical allegory in, it and

1597
01:25:16.960 --> 01:25:20.680
it's a very wonderful. Movie and it's A hollywood, movie

1598
01:25:21.159 --> 01:25:24.560
not one of these Little christian fly by night.

1599
01:25:24.640 --> 01:25:28.640
Movies so there's a lot of quality there and as you,

1600
01:25:28.680 --> 01:25:31.840
said you, know some Strong christian. CONTENT i think a

1601
01:25:31.840 --> 01:25:33.680
great movie to take the, kids the ones that can,

1602
01:25:33.760 --> 01:25:35.880
handle you, know like you, said some of the mild,

1603
01:25:35.960 --> 01:25:38.880
violence because that's going to open up some interesting discussions

1604
01:25:38.920 --> 01:25:39.520
around the dinner.

1605
01:25:39.560 --> 01:25:40.640
TABLE i would think.

1606
01:25:40.920 --> 01:25:43.479
It's going to be wonderful and you can talk About

1607
01:25:43.960 --> 01:25:46.800
david being a shepherd and how important a shepherd is

1608
01:25:46.880 --> 01:25:50.319
And jesus saying he's the good, shepherd Because Hugh jackman

1609
01:25:50.399 --> 01:25:54.840
in this movie is the good. Shepherd so, yeah and

1610
01:25:54.880 --> 01:25:57.039
then you're can not in real, life we know who's

1611
01:25:57.079 --> 01:25:57.800
the good? Shepherd?

1612
01:25:57.920 --> 01:26:00.079
Amen, amen that's why you go to The bible A

1613
01:26:00.199 --> 01:26:03.079
upsalng twenty. Three, right that's, It, yeah there.

1614
01:26:03.199 --> 01:26:05.399
Is it gives you everything you need to, know all.

1615
01:26:05.479 --> 01:26:07.399
Right the other Animal farm.

1616
01:26:07.439 --> 01:26:07.880
Interesting.

1617
01:26:08.520 --> 01:26:11.079
Well Animal, farm you, know is one of my favorite

1618
01:26:11.119 --> 01:26:16.279
and classic books that you, know against, communism Against, marxism Against.

1619
01:26:16.319 --> 01:26:22.880
Stalinism the movie has got the basic essentials Of Animal.

1620
01:26:22.960 --> 01:26:26.760
Farm it's. Me it's done by a. Friend, ACTUALLY i

1621
01:26:26.880 --> 01:26:29.960
met him years ago when he was Starring circus in

1622
01:26:30.840 --> 01:26:34.199
his name Is, circus when he was starring In lord

1623
01:26:34.239 --> 01:26:37.119
of The, rings Says. Golam he told me he was A.

1624
01:26:37.199 --> 01:26:41.600
Christian there's some great, spots but they've also added a

1625
01:26:41.600 --> 01:26:45.119
little bit of the villain now is a woman who's

1626
01:26:45.159 --> 01:26:48.000
trying to make a, conglomerate so there's a little spill over.

1627
01:26:48.039 --> 01:26:51.880
There i'd say it's not a great. Movie three, stars

1628
01:26:52.439 --> 01:26:56.439
but certainly it shows you that revolution is not the

1629
01:26:56.479 --> 01:27:00.600
source of all the problem of all the blessings that

1630
01:27:00.680 --> 01:27:03.560
you can. Hear because there's always some pig that wants

1631
01:27:03.600 --> 01:27:06.399
to be the big pig in the. Town napoleon is

1632
01:27:06.439 --> 01:27:10.600
the pig, here and he becomes The stalin, character The lenen,

1633
01:27:10.720 --> 01:27:14.640
character the character that kills the rest of the farm,

1634
01:27:14.720 --> 01:27:17.520
animals who becomes the big pig in, town and they

1635
01:27:17.600 --> 01:27:21.520
sleep in the farmhouse and they become just as bad

1636
01:27:21.560 --> 01:27:25.079
as the farmer who was, drunk so it's a story

1637
01:27:25.239 --> 01:27:30.720
that's Against, marxism but it's for older audiences and it's

1638
01:27:30.720 --> 01:27:32.319
only three. Stars it could have been.

1639
01:27:32.359 --> 01:27:37.239
Better what would you have? Done just you, know inquiring

1640
01:27:37.279 --> 01:27:38.600
what would you have done to make it?

1641
01:27:38.640 --> 01:27:41.000
Better, well it's been done, before AND i think the

1642
01:27:41.079 --> 01:27:45.279
Story George org, wells you know how this, happened, Right

1643
01:27:45.640 --> 01:27:48.880
the book was written that he was in The Spanish,

1644
01:27:48.920 --> 01:27:54.279
revolution and of course there were the Hardcore marxist being

1645
01:27:54.680 --> 01:27:57.079
supported By russian and The, spanish and then they were

1646
01:27:57.119 --> 01:28:02.399
the National. Socialists it's international, socialism the other is national.

1647
01:28:02.439 --> 01:28:08.000
Socialism the national Socialism franco was being supported By. Hitler

1648
01:28:08.359 --> 01:28:12.640
but The, marxist as he found out In, spain were

1649
01:28:12.720 --> 01:28:18.359
becoming very you, know they were anti, everybody including. Themselves

1650
01:28:18.359 --> 01:28:22.159
they always devour. Themselves how they survived The Russian revolution

1651
01:28:22.680 --> 01:28:26.039
you read social eats. It so he wrote the book

1652
01:28:26.119 --> 01:28:29.479
based on his experience and it's a great book and

1653
01:28:29.520 --> 01:28:32.359
you should certainly read the. Book and there was a

1654
01:28:32.359 --> 01:28:36.039
movie before about it which was really. Great so, yes

1655
01:28:36.159 --> 01:28:39.520
it's been made, before and now it's made. Again i'm

1656
01:28:39.560 --> 01:28:43.000
glad That andy did. It and see one of my,

1657
01:28:43.079 --> 01:28:44.960
FRIENDS i can always, Say, andy.

1658
01:28:45.199 --> 01:28:45.760
Yeah, right.

1659
01:28:45.880 --> 01:28:49.039
Exactly, well you, know it's. Amazing you, KNOW i had

1660
01:28:49.079 --> 01:28:51.560
to stop and. Think you know WHEN i read the.

1661
01:28:51.600 --> 01:28:54.359
Book the first TIME i read it was my freshman

1662
01:28:54.439 --> 01:28:58.640
year in, college AND i didn't realize the book, was you,

1663
01:28:58.680 --> 01:29:00.239
know originally written in Nineteen.

1664
01:29:01.479 --> 01:29:05.119
Yeah, well that's because of all those problems of The Spanish,

1665
01:29:05.159 --> 01:29:08.239
revolution which ended up In World War, two which ended

1666
01:29:08.319 --> 01:29:10.960
up many years. Later WHEN i was a left wing

1667
01:29:11.000 --> 01:29:15.199
Commedy Pinko, rat two Of Franco's Black cats threw me in,

1668
01:29:15.279 --> 01:29:17.840
prison AND i loved it BECAUSE i was with some

1669
01:29:17.920 --> 01:29:21.960
revolutionaries at the bottom of the worst prison In, pamplona

1670
01:29:22.199 --> 01:29:24.439
with the chains on the wall and everything. Else it

1671
01:29:24.520 --> 01:29:27.560
was just fun and. Exciting but THEN i read the

1672
01:29:27.560 --> 01:29:32.239
book after my communist, period and it illustrates what's wrong

1673
01:29:32.319 --> 01:29:36.479
With marxism and democratic socialism and all of that, stuff

1674
01:29:36.680 --> 01:29:38.680
which if you don't know what's wrong with, it read

1675
01:29:38.720 --> 01:29:39.399
the book.

1676
01:29:39.560 --> 01:29:42.640
Right, exactly and or it'll be coming to a theater near,

1677
01:29:42.680 --> 01:29:47.199
you maybe a. Neighborhood maybe it's already there, already yeah.

1678
01:29:47.239 --> 01:29:50.920
Exactly well let me you, KNOW i think it'd be

1679
01:29:50.960 --> 01:29:53.760
interesting and just a thought is, that you, know because

1680
01:29:53.760 --> 01:29:55.520
the book and the movies have been around for so

1681
01:29:55.640 --> 01:30:00.760
long is that how each generation, say over the last

1682
01:30:01.279 --> 01:30:04.159
two three, generations how they Interpreted Animal.

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01:30:04.199 --> 01:30:06.039
Farm, WELL i.

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01:30:05.920 --> 01:30:09.479
Think with the, MOVIE i don't want. To god says

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01:30:09.520 --> 01:30:12.359
throughout The bible not to engage in presumptuous. Sin and

1686
01:30:12.439 --> 01:30:17.560
SINCE i have eighteen, grandchildren you can't presume Why Andy

1687
01:30:17.600 --> 01:30:20.159
sergis or anybody else does what they. Do you just

1688
01:30:20.199 --> 01:30:22.039
can't do. It and it's going to be angel et.

1689
01:30:22.079 --> 01:30:24.840
Cetera and you've got a great movie coming out Called Cheap,

1690
01:30:24.920 --> 01:30:28.279
detective which is the other side of the. Coin so

1691
01:30:28.399 --> 01:30:32.000
you can't predict. Why BUT i think that what happens

1692
01:30:32.039 --> 01:30:35.039
a little. Bit if you read the review on moviegod dot.

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01:30:35.159 --> 01:30:38.239
Org that's moviegod dot. Org you have to go to

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01:30:38.399 --> 01:30:41.359
right now to read the. Review if you read the,

1695
01:30:41.399 --> 01:30:45.960
review you realize that the culture in some ways has

1696
01:30:46.000 --> 01:30:49.319
shaped the movie because there's a little bit of woke

1697
01:30:49.439 --> 01:30:53.800
content and having the bad conglomerate now that's it's still

1698
01:30:53.800 --> 01:30:57.920
the Bad marxist the pigs that are taking, over and

1699
01:30:57.960 --> 01:31:01.359
some animals are better than an other, animals and all

1700
01:31:01.399 --> 01:31:04.560
of those famous lines are in, there but not the famous.

1701
01:31:04.600 --> 01:31:09.319
Speeches SO i think that probably the pressure of contemporary

1702
01:31:09.359 --> 01:31:13.560
society influenced it to a little, bit and that always.

1703
01:31:13.600 --> 01:31:17.680
Happens you, know if they make nineteen eighty four over,

1704
01:31:17.760 --> 01:31:20.399
AGAIN i guess they, did you're going to get the

1705
01:31:20.439 --> 01:31:26.079
same pressure to, somehow you, know make it more, contemporary

1706
01:31:26.279 --> 01:31:29.039
and making it more contemporary doesn't always make.

1707
01:31:28.920 --> 01:31:31.319
The movie work, right exactly.

1708
01:31:31.560 --> 01:31:34.840
Well Doctor ted BEHAR ceo Of Movie guide And chairman

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of The Christian film AND Tv, commission is always appreciate

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the inside check it out movieguide dot.

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Org thank, you.

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Doctors And i'm a friend Of, bill's which is the

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only claim to fame THAT i. Have and he might

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very important.

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Eight, hey we're back with, You Bill martinez year along

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with plugged.

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Ends Adam, Holtz, adam good morning to.

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You good Morning. Bill how are you? Today, Hey i've been.

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TERRIFIC i mean we're, uh you, Know easter season is

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01:36:13.039 --> 01:36:16.319
still in full, bloom as we, say as we are

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01:36:16.399 --> 01:36:19.399
Waiting pentecost and the sent of The Holy.

1801
01:36:19.439 --> 01:36:23.920
Spirit huh, yes the arrival In scripture of The Holy. Spirit,

1802
01:36:24.319 --> 01:36:28.520
Obviously pentecost is an opportunity for us to reflect on

1803
01:36:29.680 --> 01:36:33.680
The spirit's. Presence but thankfully we don't have to wait forty, days,

1804
01:36:33.880 --> 01:36:38.600
right we have The spirit. Now and you, know we

1805
01:36:38.720 --> 01:36:42.199
could have a long conversation about the role of The

1806
01:36:42.279 --> 01:36:46.000
spirit because he's probably the you, know member of The

1807
01:36:46.000 --> 01:36:49.720
trinity that maybe gets the least press if you might put,

1808
01:36:49.760 --> 01:36:54.600
it you, know that. Way BUT i think that one

1809
01:36:54.640 --> 01:36:57.640
of the most important passages Of scripture Is ephesians, one

1810
01:36:57.760 --> 01:37:01.399
Where paul talks about how when we have, faith we

1811
01:37:01.600 --> 01:37:06.960
are we're sealed by The Holy, spirit and that is

1812
01:37:07.000 --> 01:37:11.239
such it's such a critically important passage as we make

1813
01:37:11.279 --> 01:37:16.319
our way through life's vicissitudes and storms, right because sometimes

1814
01:37:16.319 --> 01:37:20.319
we don't feel, that but The Holy spirit's presence transcends

1815
01:37:20.319 --> 01:37:23.960
our feelings and and, sometimes By god's, grace we have

1816
01:37:24.039 --> 01:37:30.479
that that feeling that surpasses the, piece you, know the

1817
01:37:30.479 --> 01:37:33.720
peace that surpasses all. Understanding and other times we don't

1818
01:37:33.760 --> 01:37:36.199
feel like we, understand but we just have to trust

1819
01:37:36.239 --> 01:37:40.560
That god is at. Work so, anyway the, Spirit, no.

1820
01:37:40.560 --> 01:37:44.000
It's, Okay, no really it's important, because, uh you, know

1821
01:37:44.880 --> 01:37:49.079
Whenever god brings a gift right, behind is satan to

1822
01:37:49.079 --> 01:37:49.479
steal it.

1823
01:37:49.520 --> 01:37:50.439
Away, yeah.

1824
01:37:50.600 --> 01:37:53.960
Exactly you, know it's always a question of doubt and you,

1825
01:37:54.000 --> 01:37:59.920
know some, counterfeit you, know thing to to deprive you

1826
01:38:00.319 --> 01:38:02.119
of the blessing That god is giving.

1827
01:38:02.159 --> 01:38:04.880
You right and.

1828
01:38:03.960 --> 01:38:06.600
You, know so the fact that you even have any

1829
01:38:06.680 --> 01:38:10.680
kind of monicam of faith should be certitude, that, yeah

1830
01:38:10.880 --> 01:38:11.319
that you're With.

1831
01:38:11.439 --> 01:38:12.640
God it's, okay that's.

1832
01:38:12.560 --> 01:38:15.880
Right that's. Right and you, Know i'm, reminded And i've

1833
01:38:16.199 --> 01:38:18.479
mentioned this, before this is one of my favorite go

1834
01:38:18.560 --> 01:38:22.079
to passages Of john ten. Ten the enemy comes to,

1835
01:38:22.159 --> 01:38:25.760
steal kill and, destroy But jesus came that we might have,

1836
01:38:25.880 --> 01:38:28.800
life and you, know pick your, translation have it to

1837
01:38:28.840 --> 01:38:34.840
the full habit abundantly and With, jesus with The, spirit

1838
01:38:35.119 --> 01:38:40.760
in dwelling us with The, father we were invited into

1839
01:38:40.800 --> 01:38:46.920
a life of richness and meaning and. Purpose you, Know paul,

1840
01:38:46.960 --> 01:38:51.399
said godliness with contentment is great. Gain but you, know

1841
01:38:51.880 --> 01:38:55.119
we want to beware of the thief because he creeps, around,

1842
01:38:55.199 --> 01:38:57.760
Right he's one who steals from, us.

1843
01:38:58.600 --> 01:39:00.680
Right and the thing is is that there's a there's

1844
01:39:00.680 --> 01:39:01.520
a bigger.

1845
01:39:01.199 --> 01:39:05.000
Thief that from day one When god created the heavens

1846
01:39:05.000 --> 01:39:07.880
and the earth and he realized that he couldn't rule

1847
01:39:07.960 --> 01:39:12.199
it wasn't his. Domain he's been Battling god ever, since

1848
01:39:12.479 --> 01:39:15.479
exactly so that we need to understand When jesus, said,

1849
01:39:15.479 --> 01:39:18.880
hey look at you, know follow, me pick up your.

1850
01:39:18.920 --> 01:39:21.640
Cross but don't think it's all going to be a

1851
01:39:21.680 --> 01:39:22.439
cake walk.

1852
01:39:22.239 --> 01:39:25.439
Here right in my, Words AND i think that's what.

1853
01:39:25.479 --> 01:39:29.119
Happens is that we are we've become a society that

1854
01:39:29.640 --> 01:39:33.479
has become fat and, happy so to. Speak and and

1855
01:39:33.520 --> 01:39:36.399
we don't want any. Pain we want you, know total. Comfort.

1856
01:39:36.920 --> 01:39:39.119
Yeah and the fact of the matter is is things are.

1857
01:39:39.159 --> 01:39:43.319
Intensifying and guess, What it's only going to intensify all

1858
01:39:43.359 --> 01:39:46.479
the more as we get closer to the Second coming Of.

1859
01:39:46.600 --> 01:39:50.359
Jesus. Christ, okay that's exactly. Right And scripture tells us

1860
01:39:50.399 --> 01:39:54.239
that plainly things are going to get worse and it

1861
01:39:54.319 --> 01:39:58.840
will be a time of spiritual. Deception that even the

1862
01:39:58.880 --> 01:40:02.520
elect could be deceased If god didn't open their, eyes you,

1863
01:40:02.560 --> 01:40:05.720
Know and we do well to take that under. Advisement.

1864
01:40:06.159 --> 01:40:09.279
Right and the other, thing, too Is jesus explained in several,

1865
01:40:09.319 --> 01:40:12.880
parables is that you, know are you, prepared are you

1866
01:40:13.039 --> 01:40:17.079
always mindful ever? Watchful are you like that servant that

1867
01:40:17.239 --> 01:40:20.520
is drinking and brawling and beating up servants and, that

1868
01:40:21.359 --> 01:40:23.359
or are you true to the task on?

1869
01:40:23.439 --> 01:40:26.680
Hand, yeah that's exactly. Right and you, KNOW i think

1870
01:40:26.680 --> 01:40:30.199
that's a good segue into why we do what we

1871
01:40:30.319 --> 01:40:33.560
do at plugged. In AND i think it would be

1872
01:40:33.640 --> 01:40:36.560
easy to think about the realm of entertainment and the

1873
01:40:36.600 --> 01:40:42.079
things that we engage with on our screens as somehow

1874
01:40:42.119 --> 01:40:45.199
just window dressing on the rest of our. Lives, RIGHT

1875
01:40:45.600 --> 01:40:47.199
i just want to veg. OUT i just want to watch,

1876
01:40:47.199 --> 01:40:49.199
something AND i get, that you, know sometimes we just

1877
01:40:49.279 --> 01:40:51.399
want to relax and we want to watch a story

1878
01:40:51.439 --> 01:40:55.119
that engages. Us but the fact of the matter is

1879
01:40:56.439 --> 01:41:01.199
the stories that we interact with all come with a

1880
01:41:01.239 --> 01:41:03.840
point of, view and sometimes that point of view is

1881
01:41:03.840 --> 01:41:07.640
in harmony with what we believe as, believers and sometimes

1882
01:41:07.680 --> 01:41:12.319
it's not. Right sometimes it's a worldview that is pushing

1883
01:41:12.359 --> 01:41:15.439
a gospel that is not, true and, ironically you, know

1884
01:41:15.479 --> 01:41:18.279
we're talking about the. Enemy one of the big movies

1885
01:41:18.319 --> 01:41:20.880
this week Is The Devil Wears Prada, too which of

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course is the sequel To The Devil Ware's, prada which

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came out twenty years. AGO i can't believe it's been twenty.

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Years just stopped me in my tracks, here.

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And Meryl streep And Anne hathaway are. Back you. Know

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in the, Original Anne hathaway was a you, know, fresh

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you know, what behind the ears girl who runs into

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This anna Wind tour like character In Meryl streep who

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rules her Magazine runway with an iron. Fist and you,

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know they're both a couple of decades older and at

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least In Anne hathaway's character's, case. Wiser Meryl streep's Character Miranda,

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priestley maybe. Not and you know they're trying to save

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their magazine from the digital realm that is encroaching on

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them and causing. Problems for what it, is it's going

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to be a nostalgic rop for people who liked the first,

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one although the critics in the mainstream have not really

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liked this one nearly as much as the, original which

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is usually the. Case BUT i think that we could

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take a step back and, say here we have a

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world that is depicted of opulence of material. Things in some,

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ways it is life Without god writ, large, right And

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solomon told us that stuff's never going to satisfy. Us it's.

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Meaningless it's a chasing after the. Wind and so you,

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know there are some fun characters here in this movie

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probably has more kindness on display than the first one.

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Did BUT i think that we can look at a

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movie like this and you, know The devil Wears. Prada that's, interesting,

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RIGHT i mean they, mean you, know the main, Character Meryl,

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streep is a devilish. Character but the devil does indeed

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dress up in the trappings of the, age right to

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try to deceive us into believing IF i only had this,

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STUFF i make. It i'm, meaningful my life has meaning and.

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Purpose and it's a, Lie, Bill it's just a, lie, right.

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Exactly, Well and the thing is is that we can

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hear these golden nuggets from people who've, experienced have.

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Been, there done. It, solomon who had everything, right did

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try everything.

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But.

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Wisdom if you're blessed with, wisdom you pause and you

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meditate on, that and you embrace the lesson in, that

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as opposed to others, saying, well you know, what you,

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Know solomon had his bite at the. APPLE i want

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my bite at the apple, regardless, right because maybe MAYBE

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i can do it a little bit different And i'll

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do it a little bit, better.

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Right. Well and the reality is some of these and

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some of us are more hard headed than. Others you,

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KNOW i have friends who seem to have learned the

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hard lessons. Early and SOMETIMES i keep beating my head

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against the. Wall, RIGHT i know we're all there that

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this doesn't. Work and yet there's that temptation to, think,

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well IF i only could GRASP, x you, know WHATEVER x.

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Is it could be a, job it could be a,

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relationship it could be material, things it could be. Power you,

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know there are a lot of things that motivate. Us

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IF i just had, THAT i would be. Content and you,

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know we recently moved To. California we live in a,

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beautiful beautiful. Place In colorado was beautiful, too but you

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know the problem Is i'm still.

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Me.

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Right you can put me in a beautiful place and

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that doesn't necessarily change my. Heart now IF i IF

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i look out and it causes me to give thanks

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For god's, goodness it can be a good. Thing. Right

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i'm not saying that being beautiful place is. Bad but

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you can be in. Paradise but if you've got sin

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issues that you're not dealing with in your, heart it

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doesn't matter where you're, at, right it's not going to

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do the.

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Job, so, yeah they'll, they'll they'll nag and alter your worldview.

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Quickly there's no doubt about. It been, there done, that we. Get, yeah,

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hey let's talk.

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Movie So Michael, Michael, Yeah michael has been interesting on

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a number of. Levels michael tells The Michael jackson story

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from nineteen sixty six to nineteen eighty eight and that

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that timeframe is very. Deliberate Antoine fuqua is the. DIRECTOR

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i think he Did Training. Day he's done a bunch

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of stuff that's, been you, know really well received critically

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for what it. Is this is a well made. Movie

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it sort of feels like a lifetime movie or behind the,

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music you, know something that you might have seen twenty years.

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Ago it is a very celebratory movie that is the

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origin story Of Michael. Jackson of, course he was one

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of the five kids in his, family The Jackson. Five

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actually there may have been a cousin in. There i'm

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not sure they're all. Brothers but his, Dad Joe, jackson

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is kind of a. Monster, he's you, know emotionally and physically,

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abusive and he's really the antagonist, here and yet he's

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the one who drives them and so we get a

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complex portrayal of that set of. RELATIONSHIPS i would say

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that domestic violence question is our, issue is probably the

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biggest content concern. Here but we watch As michael works

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hard to overcome that and he early on Decides i'm

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going to be the biggest star in the, world and

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he does it, right but it stops before all of

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the stuff that began to come out later really filled the.

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Headline so it's sort Of Michael jackson triumphant without all

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the uky stuff that came up. Later and again critics, said,

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well you're whitewashing. It you're Not you're not telling the.

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Truth it's, like, well sometimes we just want a movie

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about our, hero, right we want a movie about, triumph

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and so we're getting a really nice version Of Michael

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jackson and audiences are eating it. UP i, mean.

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That's that's What i'm.

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Mean hundreds millions of dollars, already so.

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Exactly well there you. Go, well here we, go so two. Movies,

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Uh devilware is prota too and The. Michael, uh you

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can't necessarily say it's a biopick because it's you, know

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maybe it's a.

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Portion, yeah it's a biopick for what it. Is AND

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i don't think that they necessarily are distorting. Anything they're

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just not dealing with some of the heavier. Stuff and

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reportedly they're not dealing with it because they felt like

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there are legal questions about what they can say or not,

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say because we've got a lot of, allegations but not

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things that have ever been proven in a court of.

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Law so, no that's.

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FAIR i think that's. Fair that's that's a that's a fair. Response, Well,

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adam we got to leave it. There is always appreciate the.

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Time Adam holtz from plugged in dot.

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