Feb. 12, 2026
The Bill Martinez Show 02 12 26
The Bill Martinez Show 02 12 26
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Are you ready?
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Yeah, Okay, let's do it.
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Ill Martina's Live a program about current events, our culture,
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our values, our politics, and our future.
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And now Bill Martinez.
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Hey, six minutes after the top of they are right now,
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we've got Mike o'ne on, the assistant general counsel at
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Landmark Legal. Hey, Mike, good morning. How are you good.
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Bill?
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Good to be with you, always great.
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To be here.
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Let's pick up where we left off last week, and
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that is the Save Act. I mean it's right there.
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I mean it's it's really in uh, you know, Congress's
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prey view. I mean, they're the ones that have to
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make this happen. And it's it's the Republicans, not the Democrats.
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You know, you got Chuck Schumer yelling and screaming, Oh
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Jim Crow two point zero, when you got an incredible
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majority of Americans. I don't care, black, white, pink, any
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color pick believe that you know, voter ID is essential.
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It is a key step to securing our free and
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fair elections.
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Right absolutely. I mean you put in so you eloquently
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stated all the issues there. How important this is. I
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think that let's start with the public support for this.
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This is save America Act. This sets a floor baseline
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measures from the federal government of common sense security measures
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to ensure the integrity of the vote. And it does
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three things. Mainly, Number one mandates that you show identification
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to vote. Overwhelmingly supported, as you just said, eighty four
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percent of Americans believe that you should show identification to vote.
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Seventy one percent of Democrats think you should show identification
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to vote. Seventy four percent of African Americans believe you
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should show identification to vote. So that kind of undercuts
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the arguments from the Chuck Schumers of the world that
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this is somehow Jim Crow two point zero, which is
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absolute nonsense. Right, So we know that, and then oftentimes
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lawyers will get sophisticated on you and say something the extent, well,
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it's a constitutional right. You shouldn't have to show identification
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to exercise to your constitutional rights. Well, I reply to
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that as simple, Well, I have to show identification if
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I want to buy a firearm, right right, If I
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want to go buy if you're telling me I have
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to go buy a handgun right now in Virginia, I
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have to show identification. So okay, So we know that
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identification isn't necessarily a block to exercising your constitutional rights?
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And are you trying to say that the Second Amendment
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is somehow more important than the right to vote. We're
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talking about constitutional rights here. So anybody who says to you, well,
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it's exercising your constitutional rights, simply come back with them
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and say, well, what about my Second Amendment rights? If
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I want to assert those, don't I have to show identification.
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So that's crap too. Next, the other argument that conservatives
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and Republicans will put out, and you hear this from
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the Lisa Murkowski's of the World where sometimes you heard
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it a little bit from Chuck Grassley Mike Pence. Chuck
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Grassley kind of backed off this position, but Mike Pence
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still has wet into it. Apparently that these sorts of
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laws from Congress will nationalize elections. Well, that's not true
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at all. This isn't like HR one, the John Lewis Act,
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which was proposed under the Biden administration, which really would
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elections right a broad purview of it.
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Right, this again, this sets a floor.
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Right, this sets a floor for common sense measures to
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ensure election integrity. Again, identification to vote, establish that you're
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a citizenship citizen when you register and then obligate state
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officials to remove non citizens from their royal rules.
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Yeah, pretty good.
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How does how does that nationalize elections?
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Exactly?
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When you when you basically what you're doing. I mean,
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look at we have the Constitution that says, here's the
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rules of play, right right, Okay, this is and to me,
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the Save Act is a clarification. I mean it's it's
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an addendum and not so much an addendum, but a
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clarification of Okay, here's here's the rules of play. I
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mean that's like all of a sudden, you're going to
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go and play the Super Bowl and say one team
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is going to go. Well, you know, I just I
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think having four downs is a little inconvenient. I'm going
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to choose five.
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Yeah.
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And there's there's a there's a conservative constitutional argument in
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favor of this, as we talked about last week on
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your on the show. There's the provision, the provision that
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sets that empower states to set time, place, and manner
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for regulating elections. All you have to do is continue
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on in that exact clause in the Constitution, and it
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carves out a role for Congress to play to come
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in and talk about this, and I did a little
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after talking to you last week. We did a little
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digger deeping into into that provision of the Constitution. And
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you see in the in the federalist papers, Alexander Hamilton,
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no less an authority than Alexander Hamilton talks about this
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and warrants of the problems of vesting all of this
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power solely with the states, and it says states who
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want to do this?
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And you can look.
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Across and it's kind of prophetic because you look at
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what happens in California or what's happening in other states,
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and you see that when a state removes all reasonable protections,
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it becomes tyrannical. It becomes a party state with no
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opposition and no effective opposition, and you have the you
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have the majority or whatever I shouldn't say majority, the
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party in power that's conceding that there's a majority in California,
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but the party in power making it a super majority,
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one party state that can impose all kinds of tyrannical
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measures on the minority. And that's what's happened in California.
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And Hamilton and our framers warned about this and understood
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this that's why they had an outlet, and they're so great.
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What's amazing with our constitution is there's always a release valve.
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Right you say, well, okay, here's our set, and it's
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all the context of separation of powers. States do not
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have sole authority to regulate time, place, and manner of
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the elections. Congress has a role to do this, and
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this is exercising that constitutional role for Congress to address
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exactly what the Framers warned us against, the tyranny of
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the majorities. So people who are on our side quote
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unquote our side, I don't understand this because they're consigning there,
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they're they're undermining any future of a Republican party because
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if these measures don't go in in place, you're going
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to have it's just a migration into California of the
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rest of the country.
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Of course, they're ignoring the empirical evidence of what happened
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in twenty two twenty yep, right, I mean, I mean
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it's got come on, really, I mean because even California,
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I mean, they discovered what over three million bogus names
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on the rolls, and they went and adjudicated it, and
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they could only convince them to remove fifteen what one
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point five million of the three million, and even then
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there's no verification that in fact they did that.
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Yeah, exactly exactly.
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And what this is an interesting nugget that I don't
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think a lot of people talk about about the citizenship
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verification and why it's important to really from from a
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perspective of individuals who are who are not citizens, who
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might be on If you're not a citizen and your
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name is on a voter list, that's you don't want that.
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From your perspective, say this, say Micha O'Neil's not a
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citizen and I'm a resident of Virginia, or I'm a resident,
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Let's let's hypothetical, Like, let's hypothesize I'm in California. So
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I live in California, I'm not a citizen. I got
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my driver's license, I didn't check the box to say
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that I'm not a citizen. So I automatically registered to vote.
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So my name is on the voter rolls. Well, in California,
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every single name on the voter rules gets a mail bout,
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whether you ask for it or not. So I go
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down to my mailbox one day and there's my mail ball.
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Keep in mind I'm not a citizen, right, and I
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have my mail bollot. I said, well, they sent me
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a mail ballot. Well, they obviously know that, you know,
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somebody knows that I can vote. They wouldn't have sent
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me a mail ballot if I can't vote. So I
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fill out that mail ballot. I vote because I'm just
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a normal person. I don't know all the nuances of
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the law and everything. I just figure I get something
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in the mail as the ballot. They wouldn't have sent
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it to me if it wasn't legal. I fill it out,
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drop it in the mailbox. Guess what, I just committed
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a felony, so I don't and now I faced criminal
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exposure and prosecution. I don't know why the left doesn't
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want to protect non citizens in this country who might
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be inadvertently named on the voter rolls so that they
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don't cast ballots and expose themselves to criminal liability.
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This is this is beyond crazy.
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So that hypothetical I just played out to you, I
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can't say definitively right, But is it too much of
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a stretch to think that that happens in California?
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I certainly don't want.
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Well say what I'll tell you what happens in California
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is that the Democrats they have the addresses of all
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these illegal immigrants who received ballots. So then they knock, knock,
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knock on the door and say, hey, did you get
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a We know you got a ballot. Yeah, but I'm
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not a citizen. I'm not supposed to. Don't worry. We'll
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take that ballot for you and we'll take care of
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it for you. Don't worry. So but there's no there's
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no culpability for these uh, these ballot harvesters.
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Mike right, absolutely, And that's that's that's the next step here.
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And I think I think what we saw with the
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Boss decision earlier this year from the Supreme Court is
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that is excuse me, is that candidates now have standing.
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Remember we talked about the notion of standing and how
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hard it is to establish the legal doctor of standing
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in order to challenge a lot of these laws.
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From an elections perspective.
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But with this Supreme Court decision in Boss versus State
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of Illinois Board of Elections, you see now that if
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you're a candidate in one of these states. Again, I
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look forward to this and hopefully this is going to
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We're going to see this on the horizon. Is candidates
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now start to challenge those sorts of laws and again
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laws that allow battle harvesting because it undermines the fundamental
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fairness of the electoral process.
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