Feb. 11, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 02 11 26

The Bill Martinez Show 02 11 26
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The Bill Martinez Show 02 11 26
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, Okay, let's do an Ill Martinas Live a program

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about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and

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our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Well, good morning America. Good to have you with us.

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Six minutes after the top they are right now. We've

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got the Fox News contributor Horace Cooper, the one and only,

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joining us right now. Horace, good morning, How are you?

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Good morning? It's great to be on the program.

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Hey, lots to get caught up on. You know, I've

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been thinking a lot here lately that it's like we

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are in the midst of a revolution that probably maybe

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seventy five eighty percent of the country is not aware

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of it. We keep thinking that we have a constitution

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and that everything's going to work itself out. But it's

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almost like, you know, the Bolsheviks are running a muck here,

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and forget about the constitution, forget about you know, the things,

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the traditions that we hold to as Americans. And what

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I find myself considering and looking at here, Horace, is

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it's not a republican versus democratic thing. It's an American

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versus a non American deal. Does that make sense to you.

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Well, it does make sense to me. I'm optimistic. However,

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our experiment in self government doesn't exist in the rest

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of the world. In the form that we have. We

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have a ridden constitution that gives us the right to

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go into court even when there are places where the

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courts have refused to honor the principles of our constitution. Ultimately,

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when these disputes get to the Supreme Court, a strong

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and robust constitutional majority of jurists act in accordance with

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our constitution. That, along with a conservative president in conservatives

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controlling Congress, means that the assault on our nation. And

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you're right, it's an assault. It is aggressive, but I

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don't think it can succeed.

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Right, although it's creating a lot of havoc. And you know,

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and I'm shocked, Horus, because when the mainstream media would

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lead us to believe that their polling is indicating that

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Democrats should be running away with the midterms. And this

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is after a robust year that this president has been

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able to do on behalf of the American people and

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making things truly affordable. I mean, look what's happening with

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the stock market. People are making more money per hour.

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The big beautiful bill coming into play, energy sector AI

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investment in the country. All this is targeting and looking

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toward a rather robust and you know, as Trump would say,

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Golden age and era for America.

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So a dangerous number of Americans, about twenty two percent,

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I call it a dangerous number, believe that America is

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a failure, that America should close its doors as a institution,

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as a place where people can come. They want to

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re make it, and that's part of why they've tried

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to swamp us with so many foreigners. But they only

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represent twenty two percent. Of these people are wanting to

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undermine and destroy America and our last president, excuse me.

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In a typical presidential election, about sixty percent of the

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population actually votes, not seventy nine to eighty and certainly

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not one hundred percent. Compared that to Australia, where they

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have regularly more than ninety nine percent of the eligible

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population voted. So when you have sixty percent, two percent

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kate the very idea of what we exist, all they

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need to do is add about five or six percent

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of fake, cheating, illegal votes and you can get close

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enough to get a winning margin. In twenty twenty four,

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that wasn't enough. And that's the reason why Donald Trump

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was elected. Here is what we expect in an off

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year election, Probably only about forty four or forty five

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percent of the American people will vote. But I promise

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you the twenty two percent that wants to destroy the country,

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they're gonna be there.

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Exactly.

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Get our job to make sure people that aren't paying

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attention understand that the stakes are extremely high this time.

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Well, especially because the Democrats have made it clear that

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will be deluged with impeachment. After impeachment, they've already got

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articles already written up, getting ready to present once Haakim

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Jeffreys takes over the gabble, God forbid, and then everything,

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all this momentum that Donald Trump has thrust on our economy,

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and everything will just go down the tubes. I mean,

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look what's happening with the GDP. I mean, for almost

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looking at five percent. He even said yesterday that we're

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looking at possibly even getting if we had some cooperation

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from the Feds, and with all this investment coming in horace,

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we could realize a GDP of as much as fifteen percent.

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And I know that, you know, Barack Obama and the

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others on the left probably just fainted. You know when

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they heard that. But look at Donald Trump has been

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pretty right on, you know, with everything that he's projected,

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hasn't he.

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You know, you're right. You know that when Eisenhower was president,

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he actually had at least one year out of his

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eight years a thirteen percent annual GDP. So it's not

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crazy to get real growth the government out of the way.

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But I want to turn back to what we risk

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if the other side prevails. Yes, they plan to change

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the number of justices on the Supreme Court so that

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when you go and ask to have your constitutional rights vindicated,

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there will instead be woke warriors two, three, four or

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five more on the court to offset the constitutional majority.

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When you start talking about the freedom that this administration

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has provided by getting rid of the climate hoax, I

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can assure you that if the other side, if the

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leftist prove, they're going to mandate that all federal policy

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must assume that there is a dramatic heating warming that

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is taking place, and that every single it won't just

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be your appliances, it might just be your lun more,

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every single aspect of your life will be impacted by

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this radical idea.

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Right, and now you've got regulation nation back. Uh, and

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you're probably talking if you can imagine Joe Biden's policies

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on steroids.

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Horrors, Absolutely, this is this is I didn't I haven't

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listed everything you want to talk about. Telling your kids

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that they know that, at seven or eight years old

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that even though God created them and they were born

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a boy, they are in fact a girl. And there

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will be taxpayer dollars used to promote this, just like

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during COVID. If you object, if you're a doctor, you

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could lose your license. When people were ordering ivermectin a

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completely safe way to protect oneself, the postal service was

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hiring inspectors to look at packages and prevent those packages

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from being delivered. I promise you this is the kind

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of craziness that America will face if that twenty two

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percent is able to work with cheating to get itself

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a simple majority when it comes to this off year election.

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Gotta go to quick break. We got more from Horace

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Welcome Back America. The former constitutional law professor, recognized legal

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commentator and author, Horace Cooper continues with us, Horace, you know,

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this is how the numbers work. You're exactly right. You

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got twenty two percent of the lunatic fringe is what

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they would call him in political science terms. That are right.

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I mean, that's the tail shaking the dog here. But

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this is what happens when you got the silent majority

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and those that do not want to participate. And this

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is why Donald Trump is looking at the midterms like

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as if he is running, because the fact of the

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matter is his agenda is on the ballot, is it not.

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It's not just his agenda, and that's right, it is,

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but it's the very idea of what it means to

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be an American. Look, we just had a Super Bowl

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I watch every year. I was a little bit disappointed

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that the game wasn't nearly as exciting, but the halftime

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show was an affront on America. Thank goodness that there

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was an all American halftime show alternative. On Super Bowl Night,

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they were announcing that they had ten million streams. The

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next morning that number was.

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Twenty five exactly.

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and some of these other TV network numbers that could

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end up being forty million people. Here's the point. Nobody

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requires you to tune in. When I was trying to

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tune in, it actually wasn't simple.

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Right, But maybe it wasn't if I were.

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Ten or eleven or twelve. But it requires some effort.

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My point about that is if you get forty five

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million people saying that this is important to them, that's

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a lot of people that are rejecting the craziness. What

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we want to do is translate. Translate. Let me be clear,

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not forty five million people, forty five million streams. If

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you had it on at your house and there were

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three people there, you multiply that number times three exactly,

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is a large, workable number that could make America stay

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America for our kids and grandkids.

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Well, it'd be interesting to see if the statisticians break

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that down horse like you said, and turn it into numbers,

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because if you look at a comparative and they're and

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they're capable of doing this is looking at the viewing

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numbers of halftime of who stuck around for Bad Bunny

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versus who went to the TPUSA alternative halftime show.

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Right, yeah, yeah, I actually worried that the mainstream media

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I was wrong.

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Well I was right, but I was wrong in my prediction.

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I thought that we wouldn't get to hear the news

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for a week or two. But it turns out that

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we could count on TPUSA to give us almost up

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to date numbers within an hour of the Super Bowl ending.

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You know what, the super Bowl itself hasn't yet given

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us numbers. This is telling. Now I get that the

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NFL wants to be international. All right, I tell you,

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and I'll tell your audience. What is great about the

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super Bowl is that it's American. And if you rip

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from it American, you're going to rip from it the

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excitement and enthusiasm for the rest of the world.

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Yeah. You think about you know that, all the exercise

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they've gone through and all this stuff going back to

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Colin Kopperneck and other controversies, unnecessarily, they've you know, politicized

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something that should be a political I mean, they should

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follow the Michael Jordan rule. End of story. All these athletes,

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I mean, even Horace, even these Olympians, and I'm thinking,

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who is you know, who's with these Olympians in these

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news conferences that you know, are trying to keep these

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people from getting in trouble. I mean, at least we

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had some tennis players in Australia that were smart enough

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to say, I'm not going for the bait. You know,

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I'm here to play tennis. But we got some knucklehead

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citizens of America. The taxpayers paid them all kinds of money. Men,

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they're sitting there in their Olympic jack you know those

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Olympic jackets. If you wanted to buy one horse, eighteen

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hundred bucks. They're sitting in eighteen hundred just the jackets alone,

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not to mention all the other stuff that the American

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taxpayer gives them to represent our country with pride, and

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they're putting us down. And I'm thinking, what is wrong

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with this picture?

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Well, I was disappointed. Let me just say this. I

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have never thought of the athlete or entertainment community as

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being the sharpest knives in the drawer.

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What I am annoyed mostly by is how the journalists

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community they know that these people aren't the sharpest knife

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in the drawer, and they go to them and they

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ask them to pine on serious questions. Now, if these

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were candidates running for office. Do you think that the

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journalists community would let them get away with a mumbling,

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rumbling statement that is all but incoherent and reveals how

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silly they are. No, they get what they want from

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them to attack America, and then they move on. Game

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of those athletes. What I hope is that as advisors

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work with future athletes, they just start telling them like

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they're doing now with golf, if you get asked a question,

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the same as with tennis. If you get asked a

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question and it has nothing to do with your sport,

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you have no answer exactly.

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Yeah, you compromise the brand. You know. Going back to

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what you said earlier about how long it's taken the

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NFL to come up with numbers, I think part of

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the reason is they're trying to figure out, how do

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we justify maybe some loan numbers here to the advertisers

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that this year paid a record number eight to ten

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million dollars for a thirty second ad horse.

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You know, one of my things about the Super Bowl is,

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of course I like the game. I didn't like it

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this year. It wasn't all that exciting. But the other

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is the commercials. Yes, they were awful this year. Unbelievable.

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Where are the creative geniuses? Remember, you're supposed to be

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trying to let this audience see your product and excited

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about it. Instead it was alienate. I wonder are we

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going to have alternative commercials too?

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Right?

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You might be right, Horace, And yes, everything was disappointing,

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sadly about this Super Bowl. We got a couple of

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minutes left. I wanted to get your read on what

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happened in California. A judge slapped out and Governor newsom,

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I mean, does he need therapy or medication or what

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I mean? He loses and he comes out and insists

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that he won the court case when the judge made

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it clear that ICE doesn't have to take their mass off.

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This is federalism one oh one. Yes, when a federal

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agent is carrying out his lawful duties, and if you

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can't get a court to find that those duties are unlawful,

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you can't regulate them. I remember when TSA was overreaching

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during the Obama years, and their state governments that were

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attempting to regulate and charge TSA agents for patting people inappropriately,

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for forcing grandma's to practically get undressed, and the courts

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consistently held that even the TSA doing this thing I

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called it getting the third base was lawful. Where is

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Lawyer Gavin Newsom's understanding of this reality?

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You know, and and here's somebody with presidential ambitions that's right.

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You know, it's shocking to me. I mean, the entire Democrats.

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See this is why I get back to what America

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needs to understand where we are and we open this up,

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you know, our discussion horace with the fact that America

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is in the middle of a revolution, whether they realize

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it or not. That this isn't about the Democrats or

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the Republicans. This is about America and anti America. Right.

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Yes, When Moses told Pharaoh to let God's people go,

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God ultimately hardened Pharaoh's heart so that he could show

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his greatness. When I watch this unbelievable fixation on gender identity,

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this attack on ice, let's ban, let's rebuild, When I

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see this unbelievable fanatic view about global warming, it looks

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like hearts have been hardened.

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Yeah.

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What it means on election day is there is going

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to be a parting of the waters. So I'm excited.

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Well, I'm with you on it. But again I am

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championing the cause horse as you are, to tell everybody

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to make sure that your vote counts. We can't have

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forty five percent of the voters participating on a midterm

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election that has such major consequences hanging in the balance.

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Right, That's exactly right. It's your God given duty self government.

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Just as a Christian has the freedom, not just a Christian, everyone,

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God has given everyone the freedom to make choices, hoping

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and assuming that they will see what are good choices.

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Our founders did the same thing. Benjamin Franklin said, it's

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a republic if you can.

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Keep it there, it is. He's the former constitutional law professor,

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recognized legal commentator, and author, the one and only Horace Cooper.

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Thank you, Horace, take care of God speed my friend.

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Still Martinez here along with Jenny bet Maartin from the

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Tea Party Patriots Action. Hey, Jenny Beth, good morning to you.

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Good morning Bill. It's agreed to be with you.

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Hey, always good to be here. Let's talk about America's desire.

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I think they've made it real clear they want and

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are demanding free and fair elections. Enough of this conversation

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about it. I mean, sixty three percent plus of Americans

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believe the twenty twenty election was fraudulent, regardless of what

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the mainstream media would want to tell us, any kind

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of move to secure our life actions the say ack

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which Chip Roy had put in action, what almost three

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and a half years ago, and.

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Here it is, well, yeah, about two years ago.

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Yeah, Okay, I had twenty twenty two, So maybe I've

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been off, but maybe that was when it was initially proposed.

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But anyway, but yes, at least two years plus so

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Republicans seem to be the only ones focused on this.

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Democrats insist that everything's donkey dory, anything to do anything

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to secure free and fair elections. And you got the

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words of Chuck Schumer declaring, oh, that's just Jim Crow

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two point zero.

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Right, Yeah, that's exactly right. So the Save Act was

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originally introduced by Congressman Chip Roy and Senator Mike Lee

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and the Speaker of the House Mike Johnson. It has

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been modified slightly. So what it was originally was to

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require proof of citizenship to register to vote, cleaning up

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the Help America Vote Act or what we would think

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of as the Motor Voter Laws. Now they have updated it.

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They are calling it now the Sieve America Act, which

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President Trump termed coined, and it has the proof of

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citizenship for registration and when you go to vote, you

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have to show a voter ID. So these two proposals,

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very simple proposals. Over eighty percent of Americans agree with

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showing proof of citizenship to register to vote, and like

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seventy nine to eighty percent of Americans also agreed with

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showing a photo ID to go vote when you're voting,

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so that the people who are giving you a ballot

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know you are who you say you are. Pretty simple.

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The House of Representatives is expected to vote on this

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today Wednesday, and then it'll be going back over to

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the Senate. It'll be the third time the Senate has

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had the Save Act, and we need the Senate to

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take it up and to vote on it. And we

477
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need to get this done. Senator Michael Who's calling for

478
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a standing filibuster, which would get rid of just the

479
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vote for filibuster and would require Democrats to stand up

480
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and actually talk the way that we saw and mister

481
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Smith goes to Washington, Yes, exactly from that old movie.

482
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That would make it much easier to get to the

483
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point where we can get this passed into law. We

484
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need the Senate to take it up.

485
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Do we need soon to go nuclear on the filibuster?

486
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Well, I think that if you go to the talking filibuster,

487
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it's pretty close to going nuclear. The only other thing

488
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would be getting rid of the filibuster. So there are consequences,

489
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oftentimes intended and sometimes unintended, for every single action that happens,

490
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so we have to think, we need to be thinking

491
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through what are the consequences of this. I think that

492
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most Americans would agree the Senate is dysfunctional the way

493
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that it is right now, and Senator Lee is trying

494
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to get it moving again so that legislation can pass

495
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and it doesn't just stall and die there.

496
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Right exactly, Well to your point, voter ID, as you said,

497
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eighty three percent of America Republicans, Independence Democrats agree that

498
00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:12.640
voter ID should take place, only sixteen percent opposed at

499
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Jenny Beth dem even Democrats seventy one percent. That's a

500
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huge majority approve of voter ID ninety five percent Republicans.

501
00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:26.640
And break it down Latinos eighty six percent, seventy one

502
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percent Blacks, And that's a little bit lower because it

503
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was at one time as high as eighty percent, and

504
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even after the Democrats insulted blacks and said, you know

505
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that they weren't smart enough to go out and get

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an ID.

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Yep, you know what, it doesn't matter if it's gone

508
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down a little bit or not. More than fifty percent

509
00:31:44.920 --> 00:31:49.440
of every single socioeconomic racial demographic agree with both of

510
00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:52.559
these proposals. It is common sense. We want to know,

511
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regardless of who we're voting for, on both sides of

512
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the political aisle, that the people who are voting are

513
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indeed America citizens and they are who they say they are.

514
00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:04.720
We have to show a photo ID to get inside

515
00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:07.000
government buildings. We have to show a photo ID to

516
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:11.160
get on an airplane, to buy sudafed at the pharmacy,

517
00:32:11.319 --> 00:32:16.119
to buy alcohol, to buy cigarettes. We show IDs throughout

518
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:19.720
our entire life. You don't walk around without having our

519
00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:22.000
ID on you. Mine as on the back of my phone.

520
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So yeah, it's people are used to this. They think

521
00:32:25.960 --> 00:32:30.920
it's just a common sense reform and requiring proof of

522
00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:33.880
citizenship when registering to vote. This does not mean you

523
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take your passport or you take your birth certificate to

524
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:39.960
go vote. It means when you go to register to vote,

525
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very much like when you go to get your driver's license,

526
00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:48.359
you show some additional proof of citizenship. It's a one

527
00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:51.079
time thing that usually you don't do unless you're moving,

528
00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:52.000
you know.

529
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:54.079
I thought it was rather clever that Donald Trump had

530
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named this the Safeguard American Voter Eligibility Save Acts, Save America,

531
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because that's really what we're looking at. You know, because

532
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in the essence of all this where we are right

533
00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:08.480
now politically, Jenny Beth, this isn't about Republicans and Democrats.

534
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This is really about saving America, is it.

535
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Not, Well, it is about saving America. You cannot have

536
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a government that operates with the consent of the governed

537
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if you are not ensuring that elections are secure so

538
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:24.920
that those who are voting are actually the people who

539
00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:28.359
are supposed to be making the decisions. If you don't,

540
00:33:28.680 --> 00:33:30.960
and you don't have clean elections, then you don't have

541
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consent of the government, and we don't have a representative

542
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democracy any longer.

543
00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:39.880
You know, you mentioned the number first step, most important

544
00:33:39.920 --> 00:33:42.920
step is documentary proof required. You know. The whole purpose

545
00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:45.960
of this is just to make sure that US citizens.

546
00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:50.200
As you said earlier, only US citizens vote in federal elections.

547
00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:52.759
That's the consent of the governed, right.

548
00:33:53.319 --> 00:33:56.680
Yeah, that is exactly right. Only US citizens vote and

549
00:33:56.720 --> 00:33:58.759
you get to vote one time. That's it. You don't

550
00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:01.599
get to vote more than once. It's it's pretty simple,

551
00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:05.519
and I mean one time per election. Obviously we're going

552
00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:07.759
to be voting more than once this year and more

553
00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:12.360
than once each year, but it's pretty simple. It is

554
00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:15.519
just such a common sense reform. It is the consent

555
00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:18.000
of the government, It is what the American people want.

556
00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:20.440
The fact that the Democrats are stalling on this and

557
00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:22.639
now they're pulling out the race card, which is what

558
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:24.840
they do when they're losing, you know, when they're losing

559
00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:27.440
on an issue, because they pull out the race card.

560
00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:30.840
It's so old. They did this initially to the Tea

561
00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:33.639
Party movement, and we didn't know how. A lot of

562
00:34:33.639 --> 00:34:36.199
times you didn't know how to fight back against it. Well,

563
00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:40.320
now I'm just like, whatever, you lie, you lie, you lie.

564
00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:43.400
If you actually think that this is a racist thing

565
00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:46.519
to do, since you are the Party of Projection, then

566
00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:48.719
you probably are looking in the mirror and you actually

567
00:34:48.800 --> 00:34:50.000
are racist yourself.

568
00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:52.440
Of course, they're concerned that this is going to have

569
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an impact on registration. I mean, we need to add

570
00:34:58.039 --> 00:35:03.840
veracity to the registration by allowing people to know to

571
00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:08.039
be able to register to vote online or not in person.

572
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I mean, each each compromise away from maintaining the integrity

573
00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:17.920
opens up the gate for fallibility, doesn't it.

574
00:35:18.639 --> 00:35:21.639
Well, it opens up the gate for fallibility. It opens

575
00:35:21.719 --> 00:35:24.719
up the gate for coercion of the person who's casting

576
00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:30.039
the vote. Both are are just wrong. It does not

577
00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:33.039
take that much effort. We have to go in person

578
00:35:33.079 --> 00:35:35.320
to get our driver's license, you have to show up

579
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in person. You can sometimes renew it online, but then

580
00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:41.280
you have to go back every ten years or so.

581
00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:44.159
In most stats, in person, they need to make sure

582
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you are who you see you are and that you

583
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:51.320
have all the documents that prove that. That's pretty much

584
00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:54.840
what is happening with the proof of citizenship for registering

585
00:35:54.880 --> 00:35:58.239
to vote. We have to do this now with our

586
00:35:59.119 --> 00:36:05.960
real ID now, non citizens, permanent aliens, legal people who

587
00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:08.639
are legally here. I think that means people are green cards.

588
00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:11.800
They can get a driver's license in many states. They

589
00:36:11.840 --> 00:36:15.239
also can get a real ID across the entire country.

590
00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:19.599
And so a real idea does not designate whether you

591
00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:22.360
are a citizen or not. What it does designate is

592
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:24.480
that you're who you say you are, and they've got

593
00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:27.599
all about the documentation to prove it. And you come

594
00:36:27.639 --> 00:36:31.000
from a country somewhere, whether it's America or another country.

595
00:36:31.239 --> 00:36:35.079
You've shown you've shown your proof of citizenship in America,

596
00:36:35.239 --> 00:36:38.159
proof of citizenship in another country. We're taking it just

597
00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:41.000
a step further and saying those who you just have

598
00:36:41.079 --> 00:36:43.880
to show that same proof of citizenship, which you're getting

599
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when you get your driver's license. Anyway, these day days

600
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to register to vote.

601
00:36:48.920 --> 00:36:52.239
Well, some have argued that this is federalizing elections. Not

602
00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:55.199
at all. The onus is still on states. I mean

603
00:36:55.440 --> 00:36:58.280
they're saying, look at you've got to clean up your

604
00:36:58.599 --> 00:36:59.800
non citizen voter.

605
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:04.800
Right, Yes, that is right. And here's the thing. When

606
00:37:04.840 --> 00:37:08.800
they say that it is federalizing elections, these are very simple,

607
00:37:09.199 --> 00:37:14.599
very tart lea's or targeted reforms. It isn't broad and sweeping. Furthermore,

608
00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:18.840
it is cleaning up the Help America Vote Act, which

609
00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:22.159
was passed into law back in the early nineties. With

610
00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:26.199
so it's been law, it's been renewed over the last

611
00:37:26.320 --> 00:37:29.920
couple of decades. It isn't something new. This is not new.

612
00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:34.199
It's just cleaning up existing laws. That's what is going

613
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:38.400
on here. And so when people say it is broad

614
00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:41.880
or it's a federal government taking over elections, I say, no,

615
00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:44.119
it is not. It's not the government coming in and

616
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telling exactly how you can vote. It's not telling when

617
00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:52.199
the elections are. It's leaving those kind of decisions still

618
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up to the states. It's not jerrymandering every congressional district

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in the country. All of that is still left up

620
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to the.

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States, our elections. That's what it's all about. Jenny Beth Martin, President,

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co founder of the Tea Party Patriots Jenny Beth, how

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00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:02.679
but my wife's the champion.

720
00:43:02.880 --> 00:43:05.199
I am just doing my best and support.

721
00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:08.159
Well, what a great Valentine's gift that's waiting for you

722
00:43:08.239 --> 00:43:11.480
soon and very soon. Not to mention a thousand dollars

723
00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:14.320
Trump benefit account.

724
00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:18.960
Right, absolutely, what better way to start than having that

725
00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:19.880
investment account.

726
00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:21.559
I just really count that as a blessing. And I'm

727
00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:22.119
glad that the.

728
00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:27.280
Trump administration is supporting families because a lot of people

729
00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:30.719
they don't have more than two or three kids, because

730
00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:34.039
they're just like, we can't afford it. Well, he's trying

731
00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:36.519
to make this more affordable and give more supports for

732
00:43:36.679 --> 00:43:40.599
families and their future, their progeny and their children and

733
00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:41.280
their legacy.

734
00:43:42.159 --> 00:43:44.519
Well, as Charlie Kirk said, you know, we need more babies,

735
00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:47.519
more marriages. It's okay, you know, to go and have fun,

736
00:43:47.599 --> 00:43:50.079
enjoy life. That's what makes the wheels on the bus

737
00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:52.440
go around and round. You know. Kids, he's just going

738
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:55.679
to have ten kids, you know, and that's easy for

739
00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:59.280
a guy to say, you know. But regardless, you know,

740
00:43:59.360 --> 00:44:01.639
you know, the guys standing up giving him a standing

741
00:44:01.639 --> 00:44:04.639
ovation at the time, women going, they sit down. It's okay,

742
00:44:05.119 --> 00:44:08.400
you know, but regardless. But I think, you know, coupled

743
00:44:08.400 --> 00:44:12.639
with the thousand dollars incentive, the cold weather and Valentine's Day,

744
00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:15.719
we could have a whole new version of the baby

745
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:17.519
boom in the modern era. What do you think.

746
00:44:18.159 --> 00:44:20.840
I think that's it's coming. I think it's coming.

747
00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:24.719
I think people have been like snowed in together and

748
00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:27.800
you know, like they're not going out that much because

749
00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:30.360
a lot of people can't afford to go out with

750
00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:33.679
all the prices being so high. So you know, I

751
00:44:33.719 --> 00:44:37.039
think that's really gonna help this nice little baby boom.

752
00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:39.320
And people were locked in for weeks.

753
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:43.320
So right exactly. And cuddling is not that expensive, is it, Andre? No,

754
00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:45.920
not at all now, less time I checked. I mean,

755
00:44:46.199 --> 00:44:48.039
unless she makes you pay or something. But that's a

756
00:44:48.079 --> 00:44:50.760
whole other problem. We can't talk about that. I don't

757
00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:54.639
know why I went there, so forgive me. But regardless,

758
00:44:54.840 --> 00:44:57.119
I just think, look at we need. There's no doubt

759
00:44:57.119 --> 00:45:02.000
that we have been underproducing terms of children. You know,

760
00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:06.400
no doubt abortion has had its big impact. You know,

761
00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:10.719
the millions of babies that you know have died at

762
00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:14.119
the hands of abortionists in that. And here we are,

763
00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:18.679
we find ourselves with a low labor force, and so

764
00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:21.920
we need to get the labor force up. And you know,

765
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:26.000
it's amazing how whatever man can think in terms of

766
00:45:26.280 --> 00:45:29.360
their idea of what to do, they forget that God's

767
00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:30.199
still in control.

768
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:35.480
Right, that's right, that's right, and jumping into the to

769
00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:40.800
the labor force. What we're finding out today is that

770
00:45:41.039 --> 00:45:48.920
lo and behold that Trump's enforcement is helping to raise

771
00:45:49.639 --> 00:45:54.559
wages in certain industries that have been dominated by illegal

772
00:45:54.679 --> 00:45:58.920
immigrants that have been working illegally under the table. And

773
00:45:59.119 --> 00:46:04.119
this guy and Alan Tonelson, he did a study and

774
00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:09.960
he found that in those areas such as janitorial services,

775
00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:15.360
such as casinos, such as hospitality, such as fast food,

776
00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:18.280
a lot of these different areas, we've been seeing an

777
00:46:18.440 --> 00:46:19.719
increase in the price.

778
00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:21.400
Why is that happening?

779
00:46:21.719 --> 00:46:27.719
Because these companies are having to pay Americans as they

780
00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:30.599
are losing access to their legal workforce.

781
00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:34.800
Right exactly. Yeah, well yeah, they argued against it, right

782
00:46:35.159 --> 00:46:38.320
and they all they they said, oh, that's theory. You

783
00:46:38.360 --> 00:46:40.800
don't really know that. Well, now we do know that, right.

784
00:46:40.760 --> 00:46:42.559
Yes, we do know. Yes, we do know.

785
00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:48.039
And a lot of times people look at illegal immigrants

786
00:46:48.360 --> 00:46:50.840
or immigrants in general that have been here for decades

787
00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:53.920
and they're just like, they're just here, they haven't committed

788
00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:57.960
any crimes, and you know, it's a victimless crime.

789
00:46:58.199 --> 00:46:59.920
But as we continue.

790
00:46:59.480 --> 00:47:02.239
To discuss this subject bill, we're gonna see that there

791
00:47:02.280 --> 00:47:07.239
are plenty of victims of people working here illegally because

792
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:09.239
there's something that they have to do to be able

793
00:47:09.280 --> 00:47:12.519
to work illegally, as we'll discuss as we continue to

794
00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:16.039
go through. But we're seeing the increases in wages, we're

795
00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:18.840
seeing that the enforcement is helping. And we need to

796
00:47:18.880 --> 00:47:23.039
push back against this narrative that only focuses on the

797
00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:26.480
immigrant and illegal immigrants because Americans have a story too,

798
00:47:26.760 --> 00:47:28.800
and they're being affected by this as well.

799
00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:32.920
Well. It's delusional to think that just because you break

800
00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:35.920
the law once that that's all. It's just one and done.

801
00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:40.960
It's never that way. Illegality begets illegality. It may be

802
00:47:41.159 --> 00:47:45.519
also subtle. It may seemingly feel like it feel like

803
00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:49.039
it's a victimless crime, but what we're realizing it, no,

804
00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:53.519
when you pull back their shroud, there are victims here,

805
00:47:53.960 --> 00:47:59.719
and whether it's in low wages, whether it's in medical care,

806
00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:03.159
whether it's in any kind of you know, government support

807
00:48:03.239 --> 00:48:05.519
that you have every right to receive because you're a

808
00:48:05.519 --> 00:48:08.880
citizen and you paid into it, and now that's compromised

809
00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:11.960
because you're having to take care of Oh yeah, suddenly

810
00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:15.000
twenty million plus illegal immigrants have come into the country.

811
00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:17.480
And I don't mean that in a heartless sort of way,

812
00:48:17.840 --> 00:48:21.119
but because when it comes to having some sense of heartlessness,

813
00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:23.880
it was the people that opened up the gates and

814
00:48:23.920 --> 00:48:27.039
allowed this many people to come in without a plan

815
00:48:27.119 --> 00:48:29.199
and how to take care of them other than I

816
00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:32.159
guess in their own mind they thought, well, America has

817
00:48:32.280 --> 00:48:34.559
enough money, you could handle it anyway. But I think

818
00:48:34.639 --> 00:48:37.760
at the bottom line of all this is that you know,

819
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:40.199
and I was sharing this with somebody earlier, Andre and

820
00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:42.679
I'm curious to see if you agree with this or not.

821
00:48:43.119 --> 00:48:46.079
You know, we've been in this battle, thinking it's Republicans

822
00:48:46.119 --> 00:48:50.320
against Democrats. I don't think it's Republicans and Democrats. I

823
00:48:50.360 --> 00:48:54.519
think it's against Americans and people that don't want America

824
00:48:54.559 --> 00:48:56.880
to succeed. I think it's that basically.

825
00:48:57.920 --> 00:49:00.960
I think you're right in some respects because we're hearing

826
00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:02.280
it out in the public.

827
00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:04.239
We're hearing people.

828
00:49:03.840 --> 00:49:08.360
In prominent spaces talking about how bad America is, but

829
00:49:08.599 --> 00:49:13.199
they're they're looking at the people that are seeking refuge

830
00:49:13.880 --> 00:49:18.119
in America flying their flag of the country that they left.

831
00:49:18.719 --> 00:49:20.880
Yes, and we're.

832
00:49:20.519 --> 00:49:23.440
Continuing to see all this negative talk about America, but

833
00:49:23.960 --> 00:49:26.119
everybody wants to come here, and it's because it's the

834
00:49:26.159 --> 00:49:29.239
greatest country in the world. And I do believe that

835
00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:32.639
there are people that are in prominent places that want

836
00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:35.840
America to fail. This project's not going to fail because

837
00:49:35.840 --> 00:49:40.440
it's a God backed project. Our founders were inspired by God.

838
00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:43.760
And I think that America will continue to prosper whether

839
00:49:44.280 --> 00:49:50.480
the evil haters that be continue to do all they

840
00:49:50.480 --> 00:49:52.280
can to throw out our progress.

841
00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:53.199
See.

842
00:49:53.199 --> 00:49:55.039
And I think that's a critical shift is for us

843
00:49:55.079 --> 00:49:58.039
to understand because I think most people, generally andre we

844
00:49:58.159 --> 00:50:00.960
can agree that it is a America. I mean, like

845
00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:03.920
The big discussion in Congress this week is about the

846
00:50:03.960 --> 00:50:08.400
Save Act, right, and the numbers are clear. Americans on

847
00:50:08.519 --> 00:50:12.679
voter ID eighty three percent of Americans that's black, white, pink,

848
00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:18.039
whatever you know, Republican, Democrat, independence, eighty three percent believe

849
00:50:18.079 --> 00:50:20.800
that voter idea is generally because at the very heart

850
00:50:20.840 --> 00:50:24.039
of it, it's saving America. It's not saving the Democratic

851
00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:27.039
Party Republican Party. It's let's save this country and this

852
00:50:27.079 --> 00:50:29.360
great American idea that you were talking about.

853
00:50:29.960 --> 00:50:34.960
Absolutely, and I think that the voter ID and requiring

854
00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:39.480
that will be another tool that the United States can

855
00:50:39.639 --> 00:50:42.679
use to make sure that we have fair elections, that

856
00:50:42.840 --> 00:50:46.679
we don't have illegal aliens affecting our elections.

857
00:50:47.079 --> 00:50:47.199
Right.

858
00:50:47.239 --> 00:50:49.880
And I also believe that another way that we can

859
00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:54.599
do that is through mandating everify bill. I've come onto

860
00:50:54.639 --> 00:50:59.480
the show many times it said Everify, Everify, Everify. Well,

861
00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:03.360
we need to look at who's who becomes a victim

862
00:51:03.360 --> 00:51:08.840
when we don't use everify. You're seeing students that are

863
00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:12.559
on financial aid at at colleges university studying to be nurses,

864
00:51:12.760 --> 00:51:16.360
that are losing their scholarships because they're having their identities stolen.

865
00:51:16.840 --> 00:51:20.679
You're seeing people being overtaxed by the government because they

866
00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:23.519
have multiple jobs that they didn't know that they had,

867
00:51:23.719 --> 00:51:28.000
because the aliens have been stealing their Social Security number

868
00:51:28.039 --> 00:51:31.519
to work jobs that they didn't know that they had

869
00:51:31.559 --> 00:51:33.159
on their their their profile.

870
00:51:33.559 --> 00:51:36.400
Yeah, so this is more This is more prevalent than

871
00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:40.039
people realize. As you write, over a million Americans may

872
00:51:40.159 --> 00:51:42.159
unknowingly hold second jobs.

873
00:51:42.480 --> 00:51:42.719
Yeah.

874
00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:46.679
Well, I have to give Jeremy to credit to Jeremy

875
00:51:46.679 --> 00:51:50.440
Beck for his wonderful work that he wrote. He wrote

876
00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:55.800
an outstanding article. And one other thing that he wrote

877
00:51:56.000 --> 00:52:01.400
is that there are only nine states that man everify.

878
00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:08.360
And when we've seen those states mandate everify, we've seen

879
00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:13.400
that their GDPs increase and their unemployment rate goes down.

880
00:52:13.639 --> 00:52:16.960
So what is the argument for some of these other states, Oh,

881
00:52:17.000 --> 00:52:20.880
we're gonna lose our workforce, We're gonna lose money. It's

882
00:52:20.920 --> 00:52:25.639
been proven in multiple states that when they mandated some

883
00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:30.440
sort of everify. Georgia does companies that have at least

884
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:36.039
ten employees. In twenty thirteen, they instituted that, and their

885
00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:40.599
GDP doubled and their unemployment rate dropped from like six

886
00:52:40.679 --> 00:52:44.519
percent to three point four are there in that period

887
00:52:44.519 --> 00:52:46.760
between twenty thirteen and twenty twenty five.

888
00:52:47.039 --> 00:52:49.920
Yeah, that's huge, and as empirical data, you're exactly right.

889
00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:52.039
But are they afraid they're going to lose some representation

890
00:52:52.159 --> 00:52:52.800
in Congress?

891
00:52:53.280 --> 00:52:55.199
I do think so, and I think that's what the

892
00:52:55.280 --> 00:52:59.280
Save Act is going to prevent. And that's why they're

893
00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:02.039
shaking it in their boots and trying to instill fear,

894
00:53:02.440 --> 00:53:05.599
like Chuck Chuck Schumer, who is saying that this is

895
00:53:05.639 --> 00:53:05.960
going to.

896
00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:09.840
Be Jim Crow two point zero point oh.

897
00:53:09.719 --> 00:53:10.519
Of Jim Crow.

898
00:53:11.280 --> 00:53:15.000
So like, it's just inflammatory language and I'm getting tired

899
00:53:15.039 --> 00:53:15.239
of it.

900
00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:17.920
And there are other politicians out there that.

901
00:53:17.920 --> 00:53:21.679
Are just like, oh, you know, ICE is just taking

902
00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:22.360
our neighbors.

903
00:53:22.360 --> 00:53:24.800
And I was just like, wait a minute, what are

904
00:53:24.840 --> 00:53:25.960
you talking about?

905
00:53:26.320 --> 00:53:27.280
What are you talking about?

906
00:53:27.519 --> 00:53:30.280
Ice has a job to do, but it's the inflammatory

907
00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:33.920
language that people are trying to get to fear them

908
00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:36.480
to the polls, right, And I think we need to

909
00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:41.199
get away from this language and get back to it

910
00:53:41.320 --> 00:53:44.679
being politics based on your personality and based on your

911
00:53:44.719 --> 00:53:47.360
record of what you can do for the people you represent.

912
00:53:48.199 --> 00:53:50.119
And of course, the other thing we didn't get a

913
00:53:50.199 --> 00:53:52.559
chance to get into a big discussion about, but very

914
00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:59.559
critical is housing. Yes, immigration accounted for one hundred percent

915
00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:04.400
of all rental price growth, one hundred percent. These are

916
00:54:04.440 --> 00:54:06.320
the statistics, ladies and gentlemen.

917
00:54:06.039 --> 00:54:10.039
Right, absolutely, and these and this is why I don't

918
00:54:10.159 --> 00:54:13.239
understand why people in Minnesota are willing to go in

919
00:54:13.320 --> 00:54:17.280
some degree temperatures to continue to have their rents raised,

920
00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:21.679
because that's what they're doing when they're protesting against iss

921
00:54:21.880 --> 00:54:26.360
when they're impeding the government from doing the deportations, they're

922
00:54:26.400 --> 00:54:30.320
just making it harder on their cost of living because

923
00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:34.239
they are not aware of these facts, and they're just like, Oh,

924
00:54:34.280 --> 00:54:38.320
we should be open, open society and not have any borders,

925
00:54:38.400 --> 00:54:42.760
or we should be more empathetic to people who are

926
00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:44.320
just coming here to have a better life.

927
00:54:44.360 --> 00:54:47.360
But what about the lives of Americans? That's that's what

928
00:54:47.480 --> 00:54:47.760
I have.

929
00:54:48.480 --> 00:54:50.280
Those are the questions that I have for people that

930
00:54:50.320 --> 00:54:52.000
are on the extreme left.

931
00:54:52.440 --> 00:54:55.800
Well, this is part and partial with the issue of affordability.

932
00:54:55.840 --> 00:55:02.000
This impacts affordability. Sanctuary cities are impacting affordability. These are

933
00:55:02.199 --> 00:55:06.719
democratic controlled policies that are hurting you, but yet you're

934
00:55:06.760 --> 00:55:09.039
out in the streets supporting them. It doesn't make sense.

935
00:55:09.840 --> 00:55:12.360
And what you just said should be like the title

936
00:55:12.599 --> 00:55:16.400
of like the New York Post or any big newspaper.

937
00:55:16.800 --> 00:55:22.679
Sanctuary cities are increasing costs for Americans. That should be

938
00:55:23.159 --> 00:55:27.159
that should be the headline. But nobody money because people

939
00:55:27.239 --> 00:55:32.119
are benefiting from this illegal immigration. Americans are comfortable when

940
00:55:32.119 --> 00:55:35.760
they can pay somebody that's willing to do their yard

941
00:55:35.800 --> 00:55:37.440
for ten dollars instead.

942
00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:40.159
Of thirty or forty dollars. You know, they're comfortable with that.

943
00:55:40.719 --> 00:55:43.599
But when it comes down to actual costs and the

944
00:55:44.239 --> 00:55:46.599
cost of living is going up, they're so quick to

945
00:55:46.719 --> 00:55:50.079
blame Donald Trump, but they're not looking at the impact

946
00:55:50.079 --> 00:55:53.280
that illegal immigration is having and has had.

947
00:55:53.880 --> 00:55:56.280
See what they need to see. Andrea, above all is

948
00:55:56.320 --> 00:55:58.280
the only people that are winning on this. Really, at

949
00:55:58.280 --> 00:55:59.880
the end of the day, it's not even the immigrants.

950
00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:05.719
It's not you know, the everyday American citizen. It's the politicians.

951
00:56:06.360 --> 00:56:08.599
They are the ones. And you've got to see this.

952
00:56:09.199 --> 00:56:12.920
Well if you don't, If you don't, you'll business. I'm sorry,

953
00:56:13.719 --> 00:56:15.840
the politician and big business.

954
00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:20.000
Because it's big business that's profiting from having these illegal

955
00:56:20.039 --> 00:56:24.280
immigrants there. They're able to increase their bottom line by

956
00:56:24.320 --> 00:56:28.880
paying their employees less, and then they're paying off these

957
00:56:29.119 --> 00:56:32.599
these some of these politicians or influencing these politicians through

958
00:56:32.599 --> 00:56:36.119
their donations to vote a certain way.

959
00:56:36.760 --> 00:56:41.639
Well, that's that's what has them captured, right, Big business

960
00:56:41.679 --> 00:56:44.880
has them captured because they are the ones that are

961
00:56:44.920 --> 00:56:48.360
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Getting America back on track, Bill Martinez Live, Good morning America.

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Good to have you with us. It's just about six

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minutes after the top of ther right now, and we've

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got Neils Gravillias, the crime expert, author and US Army vet.

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Mister Neils, how are we doing, my friend?

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I don't think I've ever enjoyed a nice day, Bill Martinez,

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how are you, sir?

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Well?

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You always make my day, Nils. I so appreciate you.

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Important that you're here right now to talk about what

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everybody's been talking about and has been glued to all

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their media resources regarding, you know, the Guthrie situation. Where

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do you think we are right now? After missing, two

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deadlines and still nobody. No, you know, no appearance of

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missus Guthrie.

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Well, I want to I want to wind it back

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and take us back to the very first day of

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the kid of this of this case. Thirty six hours

1028
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after she apparently went missing, TMZ announced I believe first

1029
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that this was a kidnapping. In order to pull off

1030
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a kidnapping like this, you'd need a little bit of organization.

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You'd have to do a reconnaissance of her home sufficient

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to know her habits, to know when she is truly alone.

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You would have to know how to evade flock cameras,

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meaning the automated license plate reading system that law enforcement

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presently uses. You would have to be using equipment sufficient

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to suppress the signal scent and received by your mobile

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telephone and those of the people in your organization. You

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would have to have a safe place to store Nancy

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Gothri living or dead, long enough to carry out your

1040
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ransom operation, whether it's north of the US border and

1041
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or south of the US border. Let's say you were

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running an artistic kidnapping ring out of Mexico, like the

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guys the Chileans who used to operate out of San

1044
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Miguel de Allende, the last of those men, was extradited

1045
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to Mexico from Chile in twenty twenty one. They ran

1046
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a very successful operation. They were trained by the KGB

1047
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in the seventies and all they did was kidnapping for ransom.

1048
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Let's say I'm running an operation like that modern day

1049
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in Mexico. I am either paying tax to the cartel, well,

1050
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I must operate in deepest secrecy against both the Mexican

1051
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government as well as the cartel. The cartel if they

1052
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detected my kidnapping operation, they would sell me out in

1053
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a heartbeat to get to get pred so that they

1054
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could look like caballeros right with their country and with

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ours right. So that's highly unlikely, highly unlikely. You'd have

1056
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to have very trained, skilled, gifted men willing to stay

1057
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in an enterprise like this where if you screw up

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one thingying you're going to spend the rest of your

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life in prison. And if you're operating out of Mexico,

1060
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it's very virtually a death sentence to try to try

1061
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to carry this out. So that's unlikely. Let's say the

1062
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safe house is somewhere in the United States. How do

1063
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you operate a safe house. In this modern environment, you

1064
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have to have her completely cordoned off. You have to

1065
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have somebody minding her. Now, you'll notice there have been

1066
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no quote unquote proof of life videos, which are pretty

1067
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common in modern kidnapping. Okay, whether it's Alcada doing it

1068
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in Pakistan, sending a video of Daniel Pearl just before

1069
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they execute him, you know, things like that. In this

1070
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modern era, with artificial intelligence of Billin and Nil's were

1071
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running a kidnapping operation, it wouldn't take a whole lot

1072
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of skill to make a fairly authentic looking AI roof

1073
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of life video. But right, none of that is in

1074
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evidence apparently now the FBI and Pima County Sheriff for

1075
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playing this very close to the vest, which is wise.

1076
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It biases out the cockroaches, the opportunistic corcroaches, like the

1077
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man arrested in Hawthorne last week for making his ransom demand,

1078
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you know, presumably in his boxer shorts while smoking dope

1079
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on his sofa. You know, he decided to do that.

1080
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I don't want to get too salty with our audience today,

1081
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so we're going to steer away from that. So looking

1082
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at all of these things, Bill I don't think this

1083
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is a kidnapping. The way that this appears to me

1084
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is a homicide case where they have yet to find

1085
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the dead body.

1086
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And I.

1087
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It's a horrible thing to contemplate. I know that the

1088
01:04:59.199 --> 01:05:04.880
Guthrie family is going making a press release, a video,

1089
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et cetera, every day saying they're willing to pay their ransom,

1090
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and I'm sure that they are willing to pay ransom

1091
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to get their mother back.

1092
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Right exactly, Well being, let's let's take a look at

1093
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it being a homicide. What would be the motivation? Why

1094
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would they want to kill Nancy Guthrie.

1095
01:05:23.079 --> 01:05:26.119
Oh, the motivation has to fit the man or woman

1096
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who did the crime. So if it's a random murder,

1097
01:05:32.559 --> 01:05:35.159
say a burglar, she catches a burglar in her house,

1098
01:05:35.199 --> 01:05:37.480
he decides to murder her and then remove her from

1099
01:05:37.480 --> 01:05:40.960
the house, that's unlikely, you know. It's it's more trouble

1100
01:05:40.960 --> 01:05:46.320
than a burglar wants. Let's say it's a hot prowl rapist,

1101
01:05:46.880 --> 01:05:50.159
a man who decided the absolutely had to assault an

1102
01:05:50.199 --> 01:05:53.079
older woman. And I don't want to get into specific

1103
01:05:53.159 --> 01:05:56.360
this is very mccop stuff. There are men like there

1104
01:05:56.400 --> 01:06:01.719
are men like that, like Richard Allen Davis and for example,

1105
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the man who kidnapped, assaulted, and murdered polyclass she was

1106
01:06:06.320 --> 01:06:09.760
a young girl in the early nineties in California. There

1107
01:06:09.800 --> 01:06:13.920
are men like that. Again, it is unlikely because of

1108
01:06:13.960 --> 01:06:17.119
the flock cameras, because of the video, because of the

1109
01:06:17.159 --> 01:06:22.519
cell phone triangulation equipment that modern law enforcement has. It

1110
01:06:22.639 --> 01:06:26.880
is a hundred times a thousand times more likely that

1111
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it is someone that Nancy Guthrie knew, that Nancy Guthrie

1112
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admitted to her home. Now there is a blood trail

1113
01:06:35.079 --> 01:06:42.000
on the porch. The FBI, no, no, the county sheriff

1114
01:06:42.199 --> 01:06:46.440
have made any announcement as to whose blood that is

1115
01:06:46.239 --> 01:06:46.519
it is.

1116
01:06:47.400 --> 01:06:49.400
I thought they identified that it was Nancy, but there

1117
01:06:49.480 --> 01:06:53.360
was also some There was also some indication possibly that

1118
01:06:53.599 --> 01:06:57.000
there was other DNA there as well. But I thought

1119
01:06:57.280 --> 01:06:59.440
the sheriff had come out and said it was Nancy's blood.

1120
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And you're right, there was a lot of blood. I

1121
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was surprised at how much blood was there.

1122
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If Nancy Guthrie is like the rest of the senior

1123
01:07:08.320 --> 01:07:11.719
citizens in the United States of America, she's probably taking

1124
01:07:11.920 --> 01:07:14.760
a blood. Then it might be something as uncomplex as

1125
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lodos haspin so you know, a minor cut could bleed

1126
01:07:18.840 --> 01:07:23.880
a bit, some serious wound quite a bit more. Now,

1127
01:07:25.039 --> 01:07:27.559
I don't know if there's signs of a struggle in

1128
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the house, but within thirty six hours of her going missing,

1129
01:07:32.960 --> 01:07:37.719
the Pima County Sheriff did say that her home was

1130
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a crime scene. And didn't you know, clarify that much

1131
01:07:42.280 --> 01:07:47.920
at all. Okay, there was an initial thing last week

1132
01:07:48.239 --> 01:07:53.679
in the media about the placement of Nancy Guthrie's Apple

1133
01:07:53.800 --> 01:07:57.599
Watch being communicated in one of the ransom demands, and

1134
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I'm starting to doubt that very serious that that was

1135
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ever communicated, or if it was communicated, it might have

1136
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might not have been confirmed by the Pma County Sheriff

1137
01:08:08.880 --> 01:08:13.679
or the FBI. We have to believe that the FBI

1138
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does follow up on every single ransom demand and closely

1139
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tracks whomever might be tuning in over the internet to

1140
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whatever video Samantha Go three makes pleading for the release

1141
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of her mother.

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Right, but Neils, we've got to go to quick break.

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Let's pick it up on the other side. More from

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Welcome back Bill Martinez here with Nil Scriblius, the crime

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expert author and US Army vet, author of The Last

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lawm and True Stories of a Private Detective. Coming out

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soon and very soon. But you can pre order right

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you can.

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You can pre order it on Amazon. It'll be delivered

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on June the ninth, presumably just in time for Father's Day.

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Some people care enough about their fathers to do something

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more elaborate than a crappy necktie. But who knows, you know,

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maybe you know. We'll see, we'll see how it goes.

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I've stacked up some pre orders pre order sales that

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I'm pleased with. But I didn't write the book so

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much to make money, Bill as to tell a good

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story about what it's really like, what the profession is,

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how I found my way into it, how it changed me,

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and ultimately how I changed the profession. I think forever

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in Los Angeles if I can toot my ego here.

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But let's keep in mind that my ego is definitely

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not my amigo. Bill.

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I love that. I'm gonna I'm going to put that

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on a T shirt. Nails. My ego is not my amigo.

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I love that to death. You know, as you're writing

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the story, I mean, this is you, this is this

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is your life. As you recount it, did you kind

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of surprise yourself at the travels that God had taken

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you on in order to end up where you are today.

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It humbled me once I started really writing the book.

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I mean, it's easy to tell a few stories about

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chasing this criminal, following that guy, recovering this stolen property,

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that sort of thing, But to be revealing is something

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it's hard to do when you're accustomed to a life

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of secrecy. I wanted to characterize my family, my parents adequately.

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My father was a complex and difficult man in many ways.

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He was a chosen reservoir marine who had PTSD but

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loved the soul to the best that he could. But

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he often perceived himself as a failure. And I never

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perceived my father as a failure. Once he and my

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mother died, I will say Bill that they are forever

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perfect in God's hands.

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Yeah, amen, Yeah, no, I I agree. That's uh, that's

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a touching story. And you know that's the way we

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want to remember our parents. You know, yes, we're all flawed,

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but you know, my parents raise nine kids and God

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blessed them. You know, has a lot of chilling, a

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lot of drama, especially when you have five boys and

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four girls. The girls though outnumbered. The drama, they just

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they take drama to whole new the whole new lights.

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Well, I don't know what you're talking about.

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That strange. I know that's just me talking out loud

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and I probably should stop, as you say, Uh, I know, Well,

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Nil's let's pick up on where we left off regarding

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the Guthrie situation. Uh do you think the family and

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this is tough, I mean, because everybody is keeping their

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cards close, whether it's the sheriff of that, do you

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think the family knows more than we're you know, certainly

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there must know more than what we're aware of.

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Well, Bill, I'm sure that within the Gothrie family there

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are rivalries. There are all conflicts between siblings. You've got

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a brother who has a fighter pilot, You've got a

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very high profile media personality within the family. We have

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another sister who's a little bit of a cipher, who's

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married to an Italian academic. You know, they're going to

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be competing personalities in there. My belief is that as

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this unfolds, the Gouthries will be on full display, good

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for the good and the bad. My belief is that

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by the time this week is out, there's probably going

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to be more to the investigation. If not a person

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of interest identified, maybe somebody in custody. The sheriff hasn't

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thrown up his hands yet. They are asking for the

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public's help. But based on the two search wants served

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at the home of a family member of Nancy Gothrie,

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meaning Annie Gothrie, her daughter, right, I cannot help but

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believe that they are taking this in the direction of

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a homicide investigation, possibly involving a family member. I don't

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want to accuse her Gothrie family member without any evidence.

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That would be precipitous and premature, to say the least. Right,

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And sometimes these things take an odd turn and your

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01:18:34.079 --> 01:18:37.039
discovery you were completely wrong about your theory from the

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very start.

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Right exactly well. I've often said that in the absence

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of fact, opinion rules, theories rule, and all kinds of

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conjecture and everything else. I'm surprised that we haven't heard from,

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you know, some you know mental you know, projection scientist

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who is sensing, you know, something out there in the atmosphere,

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giving some indication. We're not hearing anything of that. But

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that aside Nils right now, what does the public take

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away from this experience to where if this happened to us,

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how should we handle this and what can we do

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to prevent it? I guess maybe the first thing.

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One should always pay attention to what's going on in

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any given situation. One should never leave an elder who's vulnerable, unattended, unprotected.

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I don't know that Nancy Guthrie would have resented her

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children being more protective of her. My mother was an

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intensely difficult woman. She was an all American old Canada

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athlete as a young person and then later a criminal lawyer.

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If you told her mom, you're going to have to

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01:19:58.399 --> 01:20:03.920
live with me, know, her response would have been some

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01:20:05.039 --> 01:20:08.880
angry invective, that sort of thing, and then a demand

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for more attention of you know, that sort of thing.

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My mother was a tough, tough woman, you know. I

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suspect Nancy Guthrie was probably pretty starchy herself. So we

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have to look over and look after our elders. We

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01:20:24.640 --> 01:20:26.760
have to look after all the people in our lives

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01:20:27.239 --> 01:20:32.960
who are vulnerable children, those with disabilities, that sort of thing.

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The breakdown of the American family hurts her soul.

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Yes, exactly well, And we have a lot to deal

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with here. I mean, we've got crazy people in our

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country and they're being revved up, you know, with all

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01:20:48.720 --> 01:20:51.560
this political animis that's going on. I mean, you look

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01:20:51.600 --> 01:20:53.960
at what's going on in Minneapolis. I mean it's like

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these people have lost their mind, and you say, you

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01:20:56.159 --> 01:20:59.920
know what they're living amongst us? You know, say what

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you want, and you're exactly right. I think we have

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to be on guard. We have to walk with caution.

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We need to keep our heads on the swivel like

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never before because you just don't know. You know, we

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got twenty million plus immigrants that came in here and

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broke the law. And I know sometimes those on the

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left go, well, it's just a minor deal. Well, you know,

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one begets another. You know, if you break the law

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in one deal even you know, the senator I think

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from is he from Connecticut had said that, you know,

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false no, no false son omnibus. You know, in other words,

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if you got something wrong, once everything is tainted, it's

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all corrupt, right, And this is this is what we're

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dealing with here. So we have to be especially precautious.

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And I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Whether

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it's churches saying hey, look at I need to make

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sure I have either law enforcement or I have somebody

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who is going to be protecting the perimeter here. Right.

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I agree with you.

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Normal people are under assault by the disorder and the bizarre.

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The other day, a congressional candidate's daughter was murdered by

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her own husband, a twenty three year old man who

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is in the throes of cannabis psychosis up in Minnesota.

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There are so many things that can destabilize a close

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domestic situation. I don't want to get into statistics household murders,

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that sort of thing. It's obvious that when somebody is murdered,

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they're typically murdered by someone who knows them, because that's

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the heart and soul of murder, the unlackful taking of

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the life of another with an abandoned and malignant heart.

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And those situations. Live in a household, live in a workplace,

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live in an you know, an institution like a university,

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that sort of thing. Rarely is anybody randomly murdered by

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a stranger.

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Right, But like you said, we need to protect those

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that are most vulnerable, Nils. That's the bottom line.

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Right, Yes, we do, and there have to be consequences.

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I mean, when there are no natural consequences for aggression,

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for moral turpitude, that sort of thing, it just proliferates.

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And if I look the other way while you do it,

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you look the other way while I do it, everybody

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else looks the other way, and everything falls apart on

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the quick.

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Well, we got to leave it there. As always, we

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appreciate your time, Nils Gravilius. He's a crime expert, author

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and US Army vet Nils Gravilius. Thank you Nils, Take care,

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God speed mind.

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Hey. Welcome back Bill Martinez here along with Scott Powell

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from the Discovery Institute, an author and speaker. Hey, mister Scott,

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how are you.

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I'm well? Thank you, Bill.

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01:27:24.520 --> 01:27:27.319
Hey, great to be talking and connecting with you. I'll

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tell you it's confusing for many Americans the divide that

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01:27:32.199 --> 01:27:35.199
we have here, because the divide just seems to be

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01:27:35.640 --> 01:27:39.399
so incomprehensible. I mean, it defies common sense. I mean

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01:27:39.479 --> 01:27:42.359
Donald Trump has been working his tail off on behalf

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01:27:42.399 --> 01:27:45.399
of the American people. What he's been able to accomplish

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01:27:45.600 --> 01:27:49.039
in just a little over a year, and what else

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01:27:49.119 --> 01:27:53.680
could happen if we had some cooperation and also what

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is on the horizon that could be very disastrous, I

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01:27:58.039 --> 01:28:01.000
think for all this positive momentum that going, and that

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01:28:01.159 --> 01:28:03.920
is if the midterms go in the wrong direction.

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01:28:04.039 --> 01:28:07.319
Scott couldn't agree with you more. Bill, I couldn't agree

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01:28:07.319 --> 01:28:11.600
with you more. You know, if we if we want

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01:28:11.640 --> 01:28:14.439
to talk about the big picture, we could start with

1478
01:28:14.520 --> 01:28:19.079
just recognizing that we're under a you know, a color revolution,

1479
01:28:19.399 --> 01:28:23.119
a Marxist color revolution. And this is a fight between

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01:28:23.239 --> 01:28:26.199
good and evil. And so these are very powerful spiritual

1481
01:28:26.319 --> 01:28:30.199
forces that are working. This is not just ideology. This

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01:28:30.359 --> 01:28:34.760
is a spiritual battle for the survival of the United States.

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01:28:34.920 --> 01:28:38.479
Nothing short of that. So we've we've elected the right

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01:28:38.520 --> 01:28:41.640
guy for the right time, that's Donald Trump, and he's

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01:28:41.680 --> 01:28:45.960
made enormous success. But on what we have our termites

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01:28:46.000 --> 01:28:49.800
at work eating away the you know, the superstructure of

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01:28:49.840 --> 01:28:53.079
the country. I mean in you know, in urban areas.

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01:28:53.239 --> 01:28:56.000
I mean the if we if we go back, you know,

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I wrote a book that I think first spoke about

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01:29:00.159 --> 01:29:03.279
the establishment of these sanctuary cities back in the in

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01:29:03.319 --> 01:29:07.479
the eighties. The book was called Corporate Cadre. And the

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01:29:07.600 --> 01:29:11.000
left understood that if they could establish sanctuary cities, they

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01:29:11.560 --> 01:29:18.520
they could bring in the revolutionaries and ultimately takeover cities

1494
01:29:19.199 --> 01:29:21.880
literally right, and and they've done that.

1495
01:29:22.479 --> 01:29:24.800
Yeah, they want they wanted to secure their power base.

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01:29:24.840 --> 01:29:27.359
I mean, because they knew on the city level, which

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01:29:27.439 --> 01:29:30.520
moves a lot faster and with not a whole lot

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01:29:30.520 --> 01:29:32.840
of money. It was quite a bit cheaper back then,

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01:29:32.920 --> 01:29:38.640
and it still is relatively I mean, a local municipal position,

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01:29:38.720 --> 01:29:41.920
which is very powerful and very quick, as you say, uh,

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01:29:42.199 --> 01:29:44.279
in order to get your people in there. And George

1502
01:29:44.279 --> 01:29:47.760
Soros and others have invested a ton of money. And

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01:29:47.800 --> 01:29:50.439
then this is why we've got all this wackiness happening

1504
01:29:50.560 --> 01:29:54.000
in America's cities. They're going, what the heck happened? Why

1505
01:29:54.119 --> 01:29:56.159
is up? Down? And down up? And like you said,

1506
01:29:56.239 --> 01:29:59.159
at the very base of this, it is spiritual, there's

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01:29:59.159 --> 01:30:01.720
no doubt about it. I know sometimes when we talk

1508
01:30:01.760 --> 01:30:05.159
of color revolution, people don't quite understand what that means

1509
01:30:05.199 --> 01:30:10.680
because they're just they're ill informed or not informed whatsoever

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01:30:10.920 --> 01:30:15.079
about history. But what's happening in America has happened before

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01:30:15.279 --> 01:30:18.279
in other countries. So there's nothing new under the sun

1512
01:30:18.359 --> 01:30:19.079
here right.

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01:30:19.560 --> 01:30:22.760
Right, Just for your listeners, the Color Revolution is essentially

1514
01:30:23.199 --> 01:30:28.079
a means of changing power outside of the system. Well

1515
01:30:28.079 --> 01:30:30.920
it's actually within the system, but it doesn't involve elections.

1516
01:30:32.399 --> 01:30:35.439
It may ultimately involve an election if they can pull

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01:30:35.479 --> 01:30:42.359
off vote fraud, but essentially it involves attacking the foundations

1518
01:30:42.399 --> 01:30:49.119
of the country from various angles, oftentimes cultural and big

1519
01:30:49.199 --> 01:30:53.880
media operations. It's really a major psyop to discredit the

1520
01:30:54.000 --> 01:30:59.000
existing government so that the revolutionaries can install, either through

1521
01:30:59.039 --> 01:31:02.560
phony elections or some other means, the person that they want.

1522
01:31:02.760 --> 01:31:06.279
I mean, Zelenski is the result of a color revolution

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01:31:06.720 --> 01:31:09.880
in Ukraine. And look at the mess that country's in because.

1524
01:31:09.560 --> 01:31:12.560
Of it, right exactly, And as you say, Scott, here

1525
01:31:12.600 --> 01:31:15.079
in America, this has been going on for decades because

1526
01:31:15.159 --> 01:31:18.680
color revolution doesn't necessarily happen in one second. It can

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01:31:18.720 --> 01:31:22.960
be a consistent but steady force through the institutions, which

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01:31:22.960 --> 01:31:25.720
we've reported on for decades here that this is what

1529
01:31:25.880 --> 01:31:29.159
has been going on the you know, the progressives have

1530
01:31:29.279 --> 01:31:34.680
gone through. They control academia, they control the bureaucracy. I mean,

1531
01:31:34.720 --> 01:31:38.359
even Trevor Lauden has reported consistently that we've had over

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01:31:38.880 --> 01:31:42.840
over two hundred chard carring democrats socialists that have been

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01:31:42.840 --> 01:31:46.159
elected to office. So and my point is saying, wait

1534
01:31:46.199 --> 01:31:48.479
a minute, how do you raise your hand in many cases,

1535
01:31:48.760 --> 01:31:52.560
most cases on the Bible and promise to defend our

1536
01:31:52.600 --> 01:31:57.000
constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic when you are.

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01:31:56.920 --> 01:32:02.319
One that's right, you know, oh, that's right, well said

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01:32:02.840 --> 01:32:04.399
I can't. I can't improve on that one.

1539
01:32:05.560 --> 01:32:08.760
Well, you know, see, but this is what's so aggravating

1540
01:32:08.800 --> 01:32:11.079
to the American people, and we sit there and now,

1541
01:32:11.600 --> 01:32:15.680
because we're so divided, it's now summed up that either

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01:32:15.880 --> 01:32:17.920
part of a blue state or you're a red state.

1543
01:32:18.239 --> 01:32:20.079
That's not the United States of America.

1544
01:32:20.279 --> 01:32:20.720
No, it's not.

1545
01:32:21.399 --> 01:32:23.279
We've got to get this together to where you know,

1546
01:32:23.359 --> 01:32:26.000
these crazy I mean, and it's insane. I mean, these

1547
01:32:26.039 --> 01:32:30.039
blue states consistently support you know, if there's an eighty

1548
01:32:30.119 --> 01:32:34.479
twenty proposition, they're clearly supporting the twenty percent, you know,

1549
01:32:34.560 --> 01:32:38.520
proposition of any kind of objective here. And a lot

1550
01:32:38.520 --> 01:32:41.319
of it that's driving it is they've been using Donald

1551
01:32:41.359 --> 01:32:42.399
Trump as their foil.

1552
01:32:43.079 --> 01:32:47.479
That's right, very well said, that's right. They've demonized Donald Trump,

1553
01:32:47.680 --> 01:32:51.840
demonized him. I mean, here's a man who has been

1554
01:32:51.880 --> 01:32:55.600
successful in his life and you look at you know,

1555
01:32:56.479 --> 01:32:59.079
you can see it in how they want to also

1556
01:32:59.199 --> 01:33:03.720
demonize the first Lady. You know, the first Lady is

1557
01:33:04.119 --> 01:33:07.079
under attack. I mean, you couldn't really ask for a

1558
01:33:07.119 --> 01:33:11.960
more exemplary couple occupying the White House. You've got a successful,

1559
01:33:12.359 --> 01:33:15.960
you know, a very successful businessman and a lovely wife.

1560
01:33:16.560 --> 01:33:21.279
And yet you know, they would demonize these people as

1561
01:33:21.279 --> 01:33:26.000
though people shouldn't trust them, they shouldn't they shouldn't support

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01:33:26.359 --> 01:33:27.039
their agenda.

1563
01:33:27.520 --> 01:33:30.159
So and Scott, let me take it a step further.

1564
01:33:31.039 --> 01:33:36.880
It's also it also reflects Donald Trump and his previous

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01:33:36.880 --> 01:33:39.800
wives because he admits that they raised these kids. His

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01:33:40.000 --> 01:33:43.520
kids are good people. You know. I've talked to Don

1567
01:33:43.600 --> 01:33:46.399
Junior a couple of times. We met at the Shot

1568
01:33:46.439 --> 01:33:50.159
Show a couple of years back. What a gentleman. I mean,

1569
01:33:50.239 --> 01:33:52.720
he just just absolutely great people. And that was the

1570
01:33:52.720 --> 01:33:57.159
thing that I'd compared. I remember early on when Biden

1571
01:33:57.279 --> 01:33:59.840
was running against Donald Trump for the twenty twenty election,

1572
01:34:00.399 --> 01:34:02.680
and I just said, look at the children. I mean,

1573
01:34:02.760 --> 01:34:04.920
Hunter Biden's a hot mess. I mean, I feel for him,

1574
01:34:04.960 --> 01:34:06.800
and I'm sorry. I'm sorry for Joe that he's got

1575
01:34:06.800 --> 01:34:09.119
a son that is a hot mess. But he's a

1576
01:34:09.159 --> 01:34:13.920
hot mess. And that whole family. It's a travesty of

1577
01:34:14.000 --> 01:34:18.560
stories for that whole family. And you know, and it's like,

1578
01:34:18.600 --> 01:34:20.439
look at it. If you can't control your family and

1579
01:34:20.479 --> 01:34:23.279
demonstrate that you can lead your family, how can you

1580
01:34:23.359 --> 01:34:24.680
possibly lead a country?

1581
01:34:25.479 --> 01:34:30.960
Absolutely absolutely, But Joe Biden was installed. I mean there

1582
01:34:31.039 --> 01:34:33.159
was a vote. You know, the vote fraud in twenty

1583
01:34:33.199 --> 01:34:37.479
twenty was massive, and we've got we got him installed

1584
01:34:37.479 --> 01:34:42.800
through a fraudulent election, and they wanted him because he

1585
01:34:42.960 --> 01:34:45.640
was basically what we could call an empty suit. He had,

1586
01:34:46.079 --> 01:34:49.399
you know, beginning dementia, it really progressed rather rapidly in

1587
01:34:49.399 --> 01:34:53.720
his four years. And that's what they wanted. The deep

1588
01:34:53.760 --> 01:34:57.760
state wanted to be able to control the agenda under

1589
01:34:57.800 --> 01:35:01.239
the auspices that this was the Biden you know, this

1590
01:35:01.720 --> 01:35:03.760
the Biden agenda. It was they wanted to do.

1591
01:35:03.840 --> 01:35:05.600
They wanted to finish what Obama started.

1592
01:35:05.680 --> 01:35:08.439
That's right, absolutely exactly, yes.

1593
01:35:08.800 --> 01:35:11.680
And so and so here we were and and you know,

1594
01:35:11.800 --> 01:35:15.760
and you bring up again, uh, the fraudulent election, which

1595
01:35:16.000 --> 01:35:19.399
the mainstream media continues to purport that it was free

1596
01:35:19.439 --> 01:35:21.920
and fair, and you know, you know, no problem whatsoever.

1597
01:35:22.239 --> 01:35:25.319
Even Roethensberger out of Atlanta said this was the most

1598
01:35:25.520 --> 01:35:28.760
legitimate election, the most secure election. And now all of

1599
01:35:28.800 --> 01:35:31.880
a sudden, we're finding hundreds of thousands of votes and

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01:35:31.920 --> 01:35:35.159
discrepancies and everything. And the FBI of course just went

1601
01:35:35.199 --> 01:35:38.560
in and uh, you know, got some more forensics. So

1602
01:35:39.119 --> 01:35:40.880
you know, what's the court going to say, what's the

1603
01:35:40.920 --> 01:35:44.039
mainstream media going to say? What are all these talking

1604
01:35:44.079 --> 01:35:46.840
heads going to say? When you know the truth which

1605
01:35:46.960 --> 01:35:49.880
always comes out, you just cannot no matter what you do,

1606
01:35:49.960 --> 01:35:53.119
no matter how many people you kill, eventually the truth

1607
01:35:53.159 --> 01:35:55.760
will come out. And it seems like in this particular case,

1608
01:35:56.000 --> 01:35:58.960
we may be able to put this, you know, this

1609
01:35:59.159 --> 01:36:02.880
big lie betrayed by the January sixth Committee and Nancy

1610
01:36:02.920 --> 01:36:05.479
Pelosi and all the Democrats, the Deep States just line

1611
01:36:05.560 --> 01:36:08.840
him up. They've all lied repeatedly because you know, the

1612
01:36:08.880 --> 01:36:11.119
fact of the matter is got there's no doubt in

1613
01:36:11.199 --> 01:36:14.479
my mind that these people knew that this thing was rigged.

1614
01:36:15.439 --> 01:36:19.640
Oh absolutely, there's no doubt in my mind either. And

1615
01:36:20.720 --> 01:36:23.439
I mean, however, you look at the twenty twenty election,

1616
01:36:24.199 --> 01:36:28.319
the anomalies were so great that you don't have to

1617
01:36:28.399 --> 01:36:31.239
know the details to know that it was a fraudulent election.

1618
01:36:31.560 --> 01:36:35.079
Just the number of votes that Joe Biden got a

1619
01:36:35.199 --> 01:36:37.000
record number of votes.

1620
01:36:37.640 --> 01:36:39.960
And there was nothing to substantiate that. I mean, in

1621
01:36:40.039 --> 01:36:42.279
all these campaigns he was likely to get twelve people.

1622
01:36:42.680 --> 01:36:47.119
That's right, you know, it's anyway. Yeah, So that's one

1623
01:36:47.159 --> 01:36:49.039
of the reasons that you know last week, and we

1624
01:36:49.079 --> 01:36:51.039
can ReadWrite it again this week, that one of the

1625
01:36:51.079 --> 01:36:54.920
more important things that Trump needs to do, and of

1626
01:36:54.960 --> 01:36:58.640
course he can't necessarily do it. It remains to be

1627
01:36:58.680 --> 01:37:02.239
seen you know what what he comes up with as

1628
01:37:02.279 --> 01:37:07.039
a way of restoring integrity to our national elections. But

1629
01:37:07.119 --> 01:37:13.199
we have to have that restored because America's sovereignty is

1630
01:37:13.239 --> 01:37:16.680
in the people, and when the people's voices are not

1631
01:37:16.920 --> 01:37:20.760
registered in the votes, we have an illegitimate system. So

1632
01:37:20.840 --> 01:37:24.680
we can we can't. We can't just kick the ball

1633
01:37:24.760 --> 01:37:27.039
and kick the can on this one. We need to

1634
01:37:27.079 --> 01:37:29.600
tackle it now and we need to have it. We

1635
01:37:30.079 --> 01:37:33.399
need to have a voting regime in place by the

1636
01:37:33.439 --> 01:37:36.039
you know, by the midterm elections that we can trust.

1637
01:37:36.399 --> 01:37:38.039
Right, got to go to quick break. We've got more

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Hey, welcome back, Bill Martinus here with Scott Palising, your

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fellow at the Discovery Institute. Is time timeless book Rediscovering

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America still available and a lot of people. Boy, they're

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enjoying and they're eating it up, and rightfully so, because

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01:41:59.319 --> 01:42:03.399
it gives you a ride through history and reconnects you

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01:42:03.920 --> 01:42:06.640
with the things that were so valuable, the things that

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01:42:06.720 --> 01:42:09.319
started with our founding fathers, with the vision they had,

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01:42:09.359 --> 01:42:13.039
the Great American Dream, and how it's played itself out.

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01:42:13.199 --> 01:42:15.600
Not that it's been perfect, because hey, look at we're

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01:42:15.640 --> 01:42:18.920
not perfect. We're imperfect. But the good news is is

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01:42:18.960 --> 01:42:21.640
that we are smart enough. God designed us in such

1728
01:42:21.640 --> 01:42:23.960
a way that if we make the wrong turn, Scott,

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01:42:24.319 --> 01:42:27.159
we have a way of repenting and coming back and

1730
01:42:27.199 --> 01:42:30.399
then making the right right. We've done it time, absolutely right,

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01:42:30.399 --> 01:42:31.439
absolutely Yeah.

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01:42:31.520 --> 01:42:37.439
We were really born out of Judaism and Christianity were

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01:42:37.479 --> 01:42:40.720
the dominance course of Christianity. The Christian influence and the

1734
01:42:40.760 --> 01:42:45.680
founding of the country was absolutely amazing. The Bible was

1735
01:42:45.720 --> 01:42:51.239
the most referred to document at the Constitutional Convention. Can

1736
01:42:51.279 --> 01:42:53.279
you believe that? But it's true?

1737
01:42:53.760 --> 01:42:56.279
Yeah, because most of the men were God fearing and

1738
01:42:56.960 --> 01:43:00.560
they knew Scott, could you imagine you're putting together country

1739
01:43:00.600 --> 01:43:05.119
there's no there's no playbook, there's no you know, template

1740
01:43:05.199 --> 01:43:07.960
from some other nation that's been so dog gone successful,

1741
01:43:08.359 --> 01:43:10.600
and you're sitting there. You've got people like Madison and

1742
01:43:10.720 --> 01:43:13.840
Jefferson and all these brilliant people coming together and go, hey,

1743
01:43:13.840 --> 01:43:15.800
look at we got a little piece of information over

1744
01:43:15.840 --> 01:43:18.680
here from this European country. We've got stuff from the Bible.

1745
01:43:18.760 --> 01:43:20.760
We've got what the Jews did and what they didn't do,

1746
01:43:20.920 --> 01:43:24.319
and how you know. And they begin to pray and

1747
01:43:24.439 --> 01:43:28.199
ask God for wisdom and insight, and God starts downloading

1748
01:43:28.359 --> 01:43:34.000
into their spirits this incredible document that became, first of

1749
01:43:34.039 --> 01:43:37.840
all the Declaration of Independence and then followed up by

1750
01:43:37.880 --> 01:43:41.680
our US Constitution. I mean, God's handprint is all over that,

1751
01:43:42.479 --> 01:43:46.359
so much so that when you know, when asked about it,

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01:43:46.359 --> 01:43:49.439
even John Adams said, you know, in looking in awe

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01:43:49.479 --> 01:43:54.720
at the document, said this this document, this, you know, pledge,

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01:43:55.279 --> 01:44:00.520
this commitment. The United States Constitution is made for a

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01:44:00.680 --> 01:44:04.039
people of morality. You know, if you don't have a conscience,

1756
01:44:04.079 --> 01:44:05.680
if you don't have a heart, if you're not connected

1757
01:44:05.680 --> 01:44:09.720
to God. The Constitution implodes on itself, and what we're

1758
01:44:09.720 --> 01:44:13.239
seeing right now in some cases, Scott, the constitutions is

1759
01:44:13.279 --> 01:44:16.359
imploding because people have decided that they want to have

1760
01:44:16.439 --> 01:44:18.319
it their way instead of God's way.

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01:44:18.960 --> 01:44:24.520
Yes, yes, well, fundamentally, what I think is most important

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01:44:24.520 --> 01:44:28.039
for people to understand about our history, about our founding,

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01:44:28.239 --> 01:44:32.920
is that the founders not only had the God's vision

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01:44:33.000 --> 01:44:38.960
in mind, but they recognize that the depraved nature of

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01:44:39.199 --> 01:44:43.159
fallen man, that power would corrupt, and absolute power would

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01:44:43.199 --> 01:44:47.079
corrupt absolutely, and so they had to They set about

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01:44:47.640 --> 01:44:50.800
creating a system of checks and balances, which was manifest

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01:44:50.880 --> 01:44:53.600
in three branches of government that would each sort of

1769
01:44:53.920 --> 01:44:57.239
check each other, but then a federal system where federal

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01:44:57.279 --> 01:45:02.920
power and state powered would check each other ultimately, ultimately, Uh,

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01:45:03.520 --> 01:45:07.039
the real check was there was the frequency of elections

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01:45:07.039 --> 01:45:08.960
in America, and of course they they wanted to give

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01:45:09.119 --> 01:45:14.000
enough time, uh, you know, for for the for the presidency,

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01:45:14.079 --> 01:45:17.720
the Executive Office, and the Senate that there could be continuity,

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01:45:17.760 --> 01:45:20.359
there could be more time for them to accomplish long

1776
01:45:20.479 --> 01:45:24.439
term goals. The House. Uh, you know, we have elections

1777
01:45:24.479 --> 01:45:29.159
every two years, so you know, you really get the

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01:45:29.239 --> 01:45:32.000
chance to throw the Charlatans and the and the crooks

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01:45:32.079 --> 01:45:38.359
out with frequency anothers. You constantly are are able to correct, uh,

1780
01:45:38.479 --> 01:45:45.119
you know, the the crazy behavior. But unfortunately the system

1781
01:45:45.319 --> 01:45:48.720
has not done that very well because it's it's been

1782
01:45:48.760 --> 01:45:50.800
corrupted in so many ways. A lot of a lot

1783
01:45:50.840 --> 01:45:53.319
of it is is money. I think we we are

1784
01:45:53.319 --> 01:45:56.319
getting a lot of foreign money in our system. I

1785
01:45:56.319 --> 01:46:00.479
mean elon Omar, I mean, I mean she said money

1786
01:46:00.479 --> 01:46:01.479
back to Somalia.

1787
01:46:02.720 --> 01:46:05.439
Well, pallets of kash are going to Somalia like they

1788
01:46:05.439 --> 01:46:09.279
did Iran during the Obama years. If you might recall, No,

1789
01:46:09.479 --> 01:46:12.520
it's you've got outside money influence. You've got the fact

1790
01:46:12.520 --> 01:46:16.119
that here you know again, these politicians when they're elected,

1791
01:46:16.359 --> 01:46:18.520
they put their hand on the Bible or whatever, some

1792
01:46:18.640 --> 01:46:21.359
Quran some other things. I mean, it's just bizarre.

1793
01:46:21.479 --> 01:46:23.840
And that shouldn't be that we shouldn't be putting a

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01:46:23.880 --> 01:46:24.640
hand on the Quran.

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01:46:24.680 --> 01:46:25.520
The Koran is not.

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01:46:25.520 --> 01:46:28.640
The law of the land, right, exactly what the constitution

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01:46:28.800 --> 01:46:30.720
of the law of the land, you see. But again,

1798
01:46:30.800 --> 01:46:33.520
all this stuff gets twisted in such a way and

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01:46:33.840 --> 01:46:36.680
with each derivation, we missed the mark further and further,

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01:46:36.760 --> 01:46:38.960
and then you wonder why we're where we are right now,

1801
01:46:39.279 --> 01:46:43.520
and it's because we have decided to decouple from that

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01:46:43.680 --> 01:46:47.720
foundational rock in which this country was established.

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01:46:47.319 --> 01:46:50.920
Right absolutely, yeah, yeah. You know it's interesting when you

1804
01:46:51.039 --> 01:46:57.000
go back and study the Constitution Convention, the Convention, uh,

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01:46:57.359 --> 01:47:00.239
you know, the challenges were so great and buy about

1806
01:47:00.279 --> 01:47:05.479
the third week of deliberations that the Constition was literally

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01:47:05.760 --> 01:47:09.800
on the edge of collapsing. That you know, the acrimony,

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01:47:10.680 --> 01:47:16.159
the differences of pinion were so great that something needed

1809
01:47:16.159 --> 01:47:19.680
to be done. And you know who stepped up perspective,

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01:47:19.800 --> 01:47:23.159
It was Ben Franklin. Ben Franklin has been you know,

1811
01:47:23.840 --> 01:47:25.880
we've been told that he was really a non believer.

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01:47:25.920 --> 01:47:28.600
He was a d'ist. Well, a daist doesn't believe in prayer,

1813
01:47:28.760 --> 01:47:32.199
doesn't believe that God, you know, that we can communicate

1814
01:47:32.239 --> 01:47:34.079
with God and that God can influence a man. The

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01:47:34.119 --> 01:47:37.119
dast thinks of God as the clockmaker who set the

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01:47:37.159 --> 01:47:41.960
clock and it just runs right. We have no So

1817
01:47:42.159 --> 01:47:46.159
this deist called the Convention to prayer, and he did

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01:47:46.199 --> 01:47:49.119
so by reminding them that under the Articles of Confederation,

1819
01:47:49.680 --> 01:47:52.680
when they met in Philadelphia, under the Articles during the

1820
01:47:52.680 --> 01:47:56.960
Revolutionary War, they prayed every day before they started any

1821
01:47:57.039 --> 01:48:03.119
deliberations at all. So anyway, so we restored that and

1822
01:48:03.119 --> 01:48:08.600
and actually the convention you know, had had a break.

1823
01:48:09.039 --> 01:48:12.680
I think it was a three day break before they reconvened, uh,

1824
01:48:13.279 --> 01:48:20.800
leaving that break with Franklin's strong invocation of the need

1825
01:48:20.880 --> 01:48:23.880
for prayer. So you assumed that people went and prayed

1826
01:48:23.920 --> 01:48:26.079
and then when but when they came back, the whole

1827
01:48:26.159 --> 01:48:28.439
spirit of the convention was transformed.

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01:48:28.439 --> 01:48:28.680
Bill.

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01:48:29.199 --> 01:48:33.039
Yes, the acrimony was gone. And then the great compromise,

1830
01:48:33.199 --> 01:48:37.039
just sink, came from Roger Sherman, who was a great

1831
01:48:37.079 --> 01:48:41.199
Christian from Connecticut. And the great compromise was that we

1832
01:48:41.279 --> 01:48:44.640
solve the problem between big states and small states by

1833
01:48:45.680 --> 01:48:50.079
allocating more power in Congress, the House of Representatives, to

1834
01:48:50.199 --> 01:48:53.279
the you know that that would be driven by the population,

1835
01:48:53.560 --> 01:48:57.119
so that a larger state would have more representatives, but

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01:48:57.159 --> 01:49:00.640
that every state would have two senators exactly. Well, the

1837
01:49:00.640 --> 01:49:03.840
small states would have the same you know, would have

1838
01:49:03.880 --> 01:49:06.560
the same power as the big states. And we take

1839
01:49:06.640 --> 01:49:10.520
all this for granted, but you know that came out

1840
01:49:10.560 --> 01:49:14.000
of almost a failure of the Constitution and then turning

1841
01:49:14.039 --> 01:49:17.640
to God for prayer. In God, just here's the solution, right.

1842
01:49:18.319 --> 01:49:21.600
Yeah, it's interesting you know, because there's still da is

1843
01:49:21.640 --> 01:49:24.600
today that still believe that God somehow, like you said,

1844
01:49:24.920 --> 01:49:28.199
very eloquently, he's like the watchmaker, and you know, he

1845
01:49:28.319 --> 01:49:32.199
made it and walked away from it. I connected with

1846
01:49:32.840 --> 01:49:37.119
a study on the Hebrew calendar and where we are

1847
01:49:37.199 --> 01:49:38.760
right now. I don't know if you're aware of this,

1848
01:49:38.800 --> 01:49:41.640
but this is this is the year of the Viov,

1849
01:49:42.399 --> 01:49:44.880
and the year of the Viov, which we're already four

1850
01:49:44.920 --> 01:49:47.800
months into it, according to the Hebrew calendar, is the

1851
01:49:47.920 --> 01:49:50.920
year that God is looking. Especially right now, this is

1852
01:49:50.920 --> 01:49:54.039
an incredible year because the viv is the final letter

1853
01:49:54.119 --> 01:49:57.560
in the Hebrew alphabet, the twenty second letter, which is

1854
01:49:57.600 --> 01:50:00.720
the final letter in the Hebrew alphabet, and it looks

1855
01:50:00.840 --> 01:50:05.399
like a spike, interestingly enough, and there's lots to you know,

1856
01:50:05.600 --> 01:50:08.920
imagine and consider about that, because when you think about

1857
01:50:08.920 --> 01:50:13.840
connection and God wanting to connect with his creation, you know,

1858
01:50:13.880 --> 01:50:16.840
people think, well, God's just this you know, cosmic force

1859
01:50:16.880 --> 01:50:20.520
out there, you know, disinterested in what he's done with

1860
01:50:20.600 --> 01:50:23.920
his creation. No, he's very very involved in According to

1861
01:50:23.920 --> 01:50:26.520
Hebrew calendar, you see that God doesn't mark time like

1862
01:50:26.640 --> 01:50:32.520
humanity does. God God marks time by seasons, seasons and signs,

1863
01:50:32.600 --> 01:50:34.960
and you look at that, so you see this season

1864
01:50:35.000 --> 01:50:38.359
that's going on. And what started was a priest friend

1865
01:50:38.399 --> 01:50:40.520
of mine talked about his birthday was in February and

1866
01:50:40.520 --> 01:50:42.960
he says, I'm just so excited. I love February because

1867
01:50:43.199 --> 01:50:45.920
it's my birthday month. And oh, okay, I get that,

1868
01:50:46.079 --> 01:50:48.680
but he says, do you know what February? February is

1869
01:50:48.720 --> 01:50:51.239
a sweeping It's a sweeping away, it's a cleaning. You know,

1870
01:50:51.279 --> 01:50:53.640
we think about spring cleaning, right, and I always thought

1871
01:50:53.680 --> 01:50:56.760
spring cleaning was something that happened maybe in March, April

1872
01:50:56.840 --> 01:50:59.319
or May or whatever whenever the wife said it was,

1873
01:50:59.359 --> 01:51:02.119
I guess that's when. But actually the tradition and the

1874
01:51:02.159 --> 01:51:05.119
spirit of spring cleaning of cleaning started in February before

1875
01:51:05.560 --> 01:51:07.680
so that you get everything ready for you know, all

1876
01:51:07.720 --> 01:51:09.840
the new growth and all the you know, things that

1877
01:51:09.840 --> 01:51:12.520
were coming up in the next you know, the next

1878
01:51:12.560 --> 01:51:16.279
three months of God's season. So anyway, all that to

1879
01:51:16.319 --> 01:51:20.039
say this year and it's something that I highly recommend.

1880
01:51:20.079 --> 01:51:22.000
Google it Google the Year of the viob If you

1881
01:51:22.039 --> 01:51:25.159
can't find it, then email me Billibillmartinez Life dot com.

1882
01:51:25.239 --> 01:51:27.520
I'll send you the link so you can check it

1883
01:51:27.520 --> 01:51:30.560
out for yourself and study it. It is phenomenal because

1884
01:51:30.720 --> 01:51:33.800
what it tells of, Scott is God. We see God

1885
01:51:34.000 --> 01:51:36.079
up to a lot of great things right now, but

1886
01:51:36.239 --> 01:51:39.720
even more so because when he connects and this is

1887
01:51:39.760 --> 01:51:42.760
a time for discernments, the time for revelation, God's going

1888
01:51:42.840 --> 01:51:48.560
to be downloading spiritual, divine revelation to those who have

1889
01:51:48.720 --> 01:51:51.319
ears to hear, in much the same way when Jesus came.

1890
01:51:51.359 --> 01:51:54.520
Not everybody had ears to hear, right, that's right, but

1891
01:51:54.560 --> 01:51:59.600
those that did it was it was transformative, life changing.

1892
01:51:59.760 --> 01:52:03.479
And and you know, God never gives up on us.

1893
01:52:03.479 --> 01:52:05.720
He's always he's always working on us. And I think

1894
01:52:05.720 --> 01:52:07.880
this is going to be one of those incredible years.

1895
01:52:07.920 --> 01:52:08.640
So check it out.

1896
01:52:09.079 --> 01:52:11.079
And when you overlay the fact that this is the

1897
01:52:11.119 --> 01:52:15.239
two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the Declaration of Independence,

1898
01:52:15.279 --> 01:52:17.439
really the beginning of America, this is our two hundred

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and fiftieth anniversary, right, wow, this is quite a year

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and quite a season that we're in.

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Well. And as you said early on, Scott, this is

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about sovereignty. And the way you hold sovereignty together is

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the voices of the people must be engaged. They must

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be involved. You can't be a part time player in

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this democratic republic. There's no room for the silent majority.

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You know, it doesn't It stifles the effectiveness of a

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democratic republic. We got about forty five seconds left. I'm

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gonna let you wrap it up. Go ahead.

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Well, I think the hope that we have is really

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comes from God himself, of course, and you know God

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is in charge. God allows things to happen because He

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wants us to take responsibility for it. You know, we

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we as Americans, have to fix our country. We can,

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we certainly can get wisdom from God. As you point out,

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we need it. That's that's essential. That's why we need

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we lead prayer for lives. But ultimately God will show

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us the way if we don't already know it. I

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think we do know the way. The way, the truth,

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and the life is right in front of us. We

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need to pursue it. We need to you know, we

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need to prosecute the corrupt elements in our government wherever

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they are. We need honest elections, and we need law

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and order. You know, Christianity was came on the foundation

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of the Old Testament, which is based on law, law

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and order. It's essential that we we we restore law

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and order, and of course the enemy wants to show

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that we can't, that Trump is failing to be able

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to restore law and order because they want to. They

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want to take this country down. Yeah, hen't let that happen.

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Yeah, it's rightly said. He's the author and member of

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the committee on this present danger China. A senior fellow

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at the Discovery Institute, Doctor Scott Powell. I'm going to

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put your title in there. With all due respect, Scott,

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thank you so much. Appreciate you. Take care, God bless always.

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