Jan. 28, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 01 28 26

The Bill Martinez Show 01 28 26
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The Bill Martinez Show 01 28 26
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, Okay, let's do an Ill Martinez Live a program

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about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and

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our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Hey, glad you can join us. Bill Martinez here six

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minutes after the top of the hour, and we've got

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Ryan Morrow, our old friend. It's been a while, but it's

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always good to have him here as the counter terrorism expert.

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He's going to break it all down. He's also the

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director of the Moro Institute, by the way, which is new.

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Congratulations on setting that up, because Ryan, you know, we

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have been you know, I guess, deprived of the truth,

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the whole truth and nothing. But when it comes to

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terrorism and domestic terrorism that's happening within the boundaries of

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the United States, that's right.

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And so that's why I said the Moro Institute, which

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is a nonprofit to kind of act as the umbrella

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for all of the research and activism type of self

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that I do and that I've talked with you for

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years about, really come to the forefront lately with what

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I think most experts would agree now at least is

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the nucleus of an insurgency, If not actually an insurgency.

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It would appear that Minnesota is up to their Shenanigans again,

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and they happen to be. It appears to me, just

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from my observation, you would know better. It seems to

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be ground zero for this craziness.

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It is right now.

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But the thing is wherever these groups coagulate it and

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they cool as the one spot, this can really happen

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in your neighborhood.

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It can happen pretty much anywhere.

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Minnesota just has a lot of those variables and a

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lot of capacity for it to happen. But if there

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were to be a controversial shooting, particularly that the radical

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nonprofits can fundraise off of in Alabama, they'll turn that

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into the new hotspot.

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So it really happened anywhere.

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But this is just an ideal spot for them organizationally.

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But making no mistake about it, the average protest and

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the people posting on social media, although they may not

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be radical. The people that are organizing this activity often

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calling it intelligence gathering, using intelligence CIA type militia type,

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military type language to everything that they're doing. They usually

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connect back to an anarchist or anarcho communist group, and

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the reason they use that.

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Language isn't just to create drama.

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It's because their ideology is fundamentally militant, and so one

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of the group's Minnesota ice watch I looked at and

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I debuted this with Glenn Beck. This information when I

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looked at their social media postings very clear that they

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support a Marxist revolution in the United States. They go

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around saying they're setting up in different neighborhoods community defense centers,

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and when you ask what they do, they say, oh, well,

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we just document things. We do the things with the

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whistles to alert people. And they say that.

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But the problem is when you go to their social.

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Media posts about how to do this, the first thing

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you see is a depiction of a.

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Cop car in flames.

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Okay, so the stuff that's right in front of all

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the cameras, there's a more nefarious objective behind it. If

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you have cop cars and flames connected to your supposedly

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innocuous language.

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So who's behind them? Ryan? You know, where when is

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the source? I mean, we've heard sorrows, we've heard CCP,

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we've heard even the Russians involved Iran, But what core

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is behind this than is funding them?

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So it's not as simple as being able to say

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that there's specific hidden hands orchestrating all of it, and

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that's what makes it so complex. But if I were

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to boil it all down, here's how I kind of do.

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I say, there's the global seditionist movement. What is it

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that unites all of these differing ideologies and hostile governments.

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It's a belief that the US is basically a fundamentally

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unjust or illegitimate state with an unjustice and that needs

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to be overthrown, and so sedition is their ideology, but

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also what they do. So I call it the global

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seditionist movement. It really does stem from hostile governments overseas

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that are influencing US on social media with bots, social

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media manipulation, their foreign policy strategies, their COVID influence operations.

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Doing all of this type of stuff is what builds

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that ecosystem and builds for things like communism, because that's

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not a homegrown American thing that comes from overseas. It

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has to be funded and built. And what then extends

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from that, That's where the radical nonprofits come in. That's

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when Soros and people like that come in. So to me,

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I still view this as part of a global struggle

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with foreign groups and foreign governments and access of sedition

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I sometimes call it. And then within the United States

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we sometimes get hung up on, well, who's pulling the

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strings within the United States. To me, it's actually more

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about who's pulling the strings outside of the United States

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and building that complex web within the US. And you

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can tie that back ideologically or materially to governments like

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that of China of Russia, Iran.

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Every bad actor cut her.

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Well, as you've reported before, and I agreed with you.

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Then is that the tentacles all seem to always go

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into the back pocket of political operatives. I mean you've

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got people, I mean like elin Omar. She comes into office,

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maybe lucky to put a couple of dimes together. Now

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six years later she's worth thirty million dollars. How does

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that happen on a salary of one hundred and seventy

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a year roughly.

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Minor setting? Is that? I guess her husband is super rich.

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There's some family things going in there, but yes, there's

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in the political industrial complex, there are many ways you

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can make money. I mean, if you have a private

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conversation with some of these political consultants who only work

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during election years and they vacation the other years. I

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mean the amount of money that they're able to sometimes

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basically con out of campaigns for advice on how to

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advertise and things like that is outrageous. So that yeah,

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I mean, this is an industry on the political level,

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like with the Neil Hall nomar. But then there's a

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lot of money to be made as consultancy campaigns. And

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then there's a lot of money to be made in

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the nonprofit industry. Someone once said to me there is

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no profit like nonprofit, and that is especially true in

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the radical political nonprofit world where if you look at

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virtually any group since October seventh, their revenue has skyrocketed.

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You look at their salaries, big skyrocketed. They hired new people,

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so they make money off of this while they condemn

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capitalism as a business model to profit under capitalism.

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Go figure right, and you have United Nations unrun compromise,

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You get USAID other groups. You know that Elon Musk

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and the Doge group had exposed and to me it

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was just a tip of the iceberg. So all these

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nefarious groups are all enjoined with these anti American groups

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that are undermining US. I mean, you know, the job

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that the Trump administration has taken on is just incredible.

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Of course, you see this and you see all the

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all the moving pieces that are involved here, and you go,

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how can we the people as an entity and as

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a force come alongside and help the cause here? Because

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this corruption has permeated the interior of our country and

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every aspect everything has become an industrialized complex, hasn't.

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Yeah, that that is true.

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I think that tends to happen over time, as anything

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with the bureaucracy bills, you get profit years in there,

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and then their buddies want a profit, and then it

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just kind of grows and grows and it becomes as

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of its own.

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But what can the average person.

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Do if you enjoy reading and doing research. There's an

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unlimited number of facts out there as impossible for any

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of our researchers' brains to comprehend all of it. So

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don't underestimate the power of doing your own research, especially

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if you can write a brief. If you really get

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into something and you make a note sheheet and you

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send it to me or someone else like that, that's

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very useful.

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People don't understand that.

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There's been plenty of times people have done that for

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me and I've brought it to FBI atf local police,

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and I've had people arrested like that happens a lot.

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Yeah, well, look look what happened in Minneapolis. You know,

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you've got this young YouTuber, this you know, influencer, and

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he gets connected with somebody locally to your point who's

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been doing all this research for years, right, and he says, hey, Nick,

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come on in, look what I got here.

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Oh, it's the best example of it.

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I mean, it's the best example of recent memory of

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it because look at what resulted from that. And what

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do you do is just you had to have someone

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like that young man who had the time dedication to.

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Go into it.

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And it's perfectly reasonable that people have families, and I

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mean he's young, right, so middle aged people may don't

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have the time. You don't have the time, But if

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you enjoy this researching and stuff, understand that that there's

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value in that. If you're able to donate a little bit,

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not just to my nonprofit, but but wherever, you know,

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do something that hurts yourself a little bit. If you

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claim to care about a cause, you should hurt a

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little bit for it, sacrifice a little for it.

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But even even an introduction.

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Maybe you know someone that can be that can influence

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something like a congressman, or someone works in a in

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a policy office, or you know someone that is a

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philanthropist or whatever. Don't underestimate the power of While you're

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waiting for your dinner to arrive at a restaurant and

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you're scrolling through your contacts on your phone, most people

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know someone.

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Yes, they ex actively right exactly. We got to go

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to quick break. We got more from Ryan after this,

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Welcome back Bill Martinez here with Ryan Morrow. He's a

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director of the Morrow Institute, counter terrorism expert, and he's

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here breaking it all down and you know, pulling back

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the shroud that has been so well established.

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Ryan.

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You know they've hidden under all these NGOs and these

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ill intented, ill intent operatives and ill intent and as

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much as they want the destruction of America, that's clear, right, I.

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Mean, they say it in their own words.

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That's that's what so funny about I think what gets

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cloudy is that people will take a comment from a

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conventional politician who they don't like that will reflect them

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of the radical language of the radicals and assume it's

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coming from the same place. But really what happens is

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that the extremists radicalize certain language, globalize the Intafana, things

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like that, and then politicians who don't know any better

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and want to kiss the behinds of the audience of

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that's either criticizing them or praising them, and so then

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they dot that language without realizing, oh, where'd that come from?

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That's actually an anarchist chant. Yes, you know, I would

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just advise every politician. I say, just stay away from

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militant language. Overall all this stuff where you say we

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need to fight back and confrontation and all this stuff

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right and left, like that's dangerous when you characterize everything

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as being white supremacists or Nazi or even falsely saying

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something someone's part of a communist plot or a terrorist

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like that, Like that hyperbole is damaging and so you

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have so someone that gets messed with.

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But underneath it, because there's.

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So many false accusations going back and forth, people don't

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believe you when you say, well, if you look at

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who's actually making these issues come to the front. I mean,

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those are nonprofit political groups. They decide what the news

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covers because they bring the views, they create the controversy,

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and so that don't assume that the news you're being

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told is what should be your priority.

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Is the news that's most important to you. Certainly don't

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expect it to be objective, but.

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Understand that the moments are created and if you look

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at the groups that are creating those moments, more often than.

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Not they tend to be pretty radical.

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And so some of the anti American ones, like the

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Minnesota Ice Watch I looked into, openly talking about being

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part of a global seditionist movement taking on the United States,

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and they refer to the US as Turtle Island.

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Now, what's Turtle Island?

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American tribes, they don't think all of them refer to

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North American Central America as Turtle Island before the evil

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white man settlers arrived. And so they're taking a queue

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from the Palestinian playbook where they say, well, we can't

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call it Israel, we call it so called Israel design

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the state because it's really Palestine, and they apply that

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to the US. So they'll say, oh, we're fight for

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the liberation of Turtle Island.

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What does someone who knows what that means.

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Understand that to be it's a call for destroying the

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United States.

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Right exactly. Yeah. And what they do is they just

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kind of they're they're tilling the soil, you know, with

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words and conditioning us to accept those words, like you said,

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the global into thought of things. And these you got

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these young kids going to college to you know, hopefully

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enlarge their mental capacity and intelligence, and then they come

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out and they get with group think and they start

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saying crazy things that even you know, with some people,

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it's like, look at do you realize your lifestyle is

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such that your life would be measured in seconds if

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you were in you know, in the Gaza or if

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you were in some of these areas. It's like, I

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think they had a group of people go to go

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to Egypt, for example, and they got totally you know,

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befuddled and blown away because they go, well, wait a minute,

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you know, they expect to be treated like they were

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in America. They go, hey, this in America, you know,

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this is Egypt. And they were getting ready to you know,

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lock them up, you know, because they were being idiots,

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and you know, and these guys are just shaking their

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heads because these kids don't know. But it goes back

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to what we've insisted on continuously on this show. Ryan,

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I've always said people, you've got to own your own knowledge,

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don't just take our word from it. Yes, we bring

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experts like yourself on that have done deep down and

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you you know, you probably will forget more than we'll

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ever learn, God bless you. But still we need to

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do the research ourselves to say, Okay, Ryan led me

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in this direction, Okay, let me let me check this

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out for myself so that if I echo it, there's veritas,

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there's depth to what I'm saying, as opposed to some

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eight second SoundBite that I happen to pick up incidentally

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on CNN or something.

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Yeah, that's right, And don't you know dismiss the value

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of your own communication style too. So so, even if

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you take information that Bill Martinez provis or Ryan Morrow provides,

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the way you speak to your own audience, your friends,

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your social media post, the way you talk sometimes connects

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with people differently, you know. So I might have a

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more academic tone, someone might have a more dramatic tone,

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someone might have a more relaxed They speak in one

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or two sentences, and that works for some people. So

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everyone has this kind of unique ability to present the

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same information to people. And something's work with some people,

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and some things work with other people.

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And there's no right or wrong to it you.

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So don't think you have to be oh, I have

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to be more sophisticated in this person or talk you know,

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less sophisticated or whatever.

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It's like.

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No, just being yourself means you have a unique ability

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that none of us can copy to influence other people

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and make a difference.

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Only you can do that.

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There's only one of you that's ever existed, will.

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Exist, right exactly. Yes, that's that's some great advice. Focusing

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on Minnesota right now as an example of these other

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sanctuary states. Uh, you know, my mind is exploding because

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I think, wait a minute, how how can we have

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an existence of a system that is counter our constitution?

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I mean, we're harboring criminals all in the name of

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being a sanctuary state or a sanctuary city. How can

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that be justified? Ryan that part?

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I don't know how that can be justified. I have

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seen it. I'm not a constitutional scholar. I see. I

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have some of my.

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Libertarian and conservative friends that are criticizing some of what's

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going on with ICE and saying that that they feel

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that some of that's unconstitutional, with search and seizure.

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And things like that.

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And you see, there can be a reasonable argument in

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that nuance, and that's where it should take place. And

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you have Republicans and Democrats doing that. But there's a

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difference between that and then what ICE Watch and some

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of these other groups are doing when they show up

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and they say, no, our problem is your existence. You

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want to abolish the Department of Homeland Security and ICE

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and police and all that.

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We want to overthrow the system.

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And then you realize, because people will make the point

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where don't these people realize that it hurts their political

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cause when they blockade streets and light.

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Fires and things like that. They're not trying to score

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political points. They don't not talking about winning within the system.

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They want to overthrow the system. They're not thinking like

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the rest of us.

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Yeah, they don't care if you get hurt. In fact,

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they want you to get hurt because that helps their

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cause and gives the headline. And then you know, now

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we're doing we're reproducing and repeating what we did earlier,

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you know before with George Floyd it was defund police. Well,

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how did that work for you? Now we're going to

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defund ice at a moment in time when we have

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millions of illegal immigrants and God only knows how many

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of them. I mean, we know a good number have

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murdered people, They've been drug running, human trafficking, go down

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the list. They're not just you know your friend next

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door that comes over and does your lune once in

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a while, right.

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Right, that? Yeah, that one is the one that I will.

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I usually bend over backwards, try to understand everyone's point

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of view, the point of view that says but the

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point of view that says, all right, so you're here illegally,

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but then you harm someone else and we shouldn't deport

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you is unfathomable to me.

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That's not even something I can have a discourse about.

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The Only time I've ever seen someone have any type

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of semi coherent worldview associated with that are the people

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that say there shouldn't be any borders, the US shouldn't

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exist because it's stolen land, and everyone should have a

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right to live.

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Anywhere in the world that they want and not be

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kicked out.

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And that's why I say semi coherent most people don't

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even have a worldview developed to that point. They just say, oh, well,

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we shouldn't be deporting people. And you raise the issue

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of well, some of those people you know are murderers

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and stuff, and they say, we'll put them through the

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criminal justice system. Well, like this kind of is the

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criminal justice system. You get thrown out of my home

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if you come in and harm harmony. Not only did

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you ually enter it. I'm nice enough to allow you

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to be there, and I want you to be happy

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and do well, and I don't wish you harm, but

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you start harming other people, murder, assault, even driving, you know,

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any any of that. It is the most offensive thing

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to me I can think of, like as an American right.

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And then and then on top of that, you get

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these political figures the governor, the mayor, and the attorney

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general that is blocking even local officials law enforcement. Ryan,

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you know, I mean the men of blue are the

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men in blue? I mean they bleed law enforcement. It's

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their ethos. And and I feel for the you know,

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the head of law enforcement there in Minnesota. You can

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see he's conflicted because he's got to follow things that's

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against his very nature to do. I mean they got

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him handcuffed.

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And what these what these radical groups are doing, which

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most of which support Hamas.

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By the way, when you look at it, to.

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Me, I feel like, if you have a noble cause,

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then the groups that are part of your cause probably

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shouldn't like Hamas.

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But these tend to tend to like Hamas.

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Ye.

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But what they're really egging on is the idea of

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Minnesota the local police coming in and arresting ICE and

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federal law enforcement, having you know, National Guard come in

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Hey, good morning America. Good to have you with us.

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Phill Martinez here I'll along with Jenny Beth Martin from

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the Tea Party Patriots Action. Jenny Beth, good morning to you.

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Good morning is STI going to be with Dville.

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Well, always good to have you here with us. So, hey,

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let's talk Minnesota. A lot of heat on Minnesota, particularly

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Christy Nome and you know, maybe some of the language

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that she had used, you know, I think the challenge

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that she's been in the middle of, I mean, it's

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amazing how she's been able to perform in the midst

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of the lack of support, certainly there in Minnesota, you know,

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fighting against the governor, local officials, the mayor, the attorney

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general and all and Meanwhile, her men in ice, men

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and women in ice are being attacked at measures we've

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never seen before.

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Yeah, they are being attacked in ways we've never seen before.

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The protesters, rioters, whatever word we want to use to

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describe these people are impeding law enforcement, and they're interfering

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with law enforcement. And under normal circumstances, Americans would look

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at that and go, that is not allowed. You're not

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allowed to interfere with police who are actively doing their job,

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and we would be appalled by it. But for some

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reason right now, the people who have trumped arrangement syndrome

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think that this is allowable behavior, and it is simply

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not allowable and it's wrong, and we've got to get

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a handle on it.

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Well, without a doubt, we saw what happened with George

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Floyd in same hotspot right there, So there's some consistency.

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There are billions of dollars in damage, all ignited because

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emotions were allowed to get out of hand, lawlessness reigned

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raged and then out of it. Remember, we had to

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deal with defunding police. Now it's not defunding police, let's

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defund ice. When there seems to be a very simple

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solution because in other liberal cities where sanctuary cities exist,

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the difference has been is there's been local cooperation and

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these problems are resolved in less than a month.

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Well, they're resolved in less than a month. And here's

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some big difference. In let's say Louisiana. When ICE and

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Border Patrol in the Department of Homeland Security come in,

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the people who are being arrested locally for crimes who

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should be deported are not being released back onto the street.

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They are being released into ICE custody. When that happens,

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then the deportation process can begin. But in these so

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called sanctuary cities like Minneapolis, instead of releasing them to

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ICE custody, they're releasing them back onto the streets, so

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ICE in has to go and track them down inside

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of the city. They know they're there, they know they've

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been convicted of a crime. Now they have to be

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they have to find them so that they can deport

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whoever it might be. And that's where the real strain

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is coming from, because the so called sanctuary cities are

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not cooperating with the federal government, and yet the federal

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government has supremacy when it comes to these issues. In

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each state is supposed to cooperate and follow the law.

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And the governor of Minnesota and the Mayor of Minneapolis

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simply are not acting in a constitutional manner, even though

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they swore an oath to uphold the Constitution.

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Well, it's sedition on its face. The thing I look at.

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I mean, even some of these congressmen they're upset about,

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you know, Christy Nolman. They want to impeached, and YadA, YadA,

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the whole deal. I say, I want to impeach Congress

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because you knew this problem exists, and you're letting the

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DHS Secretary and Ice go in and deal with something

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that should have been handled on the federal level. There

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should be there should be no doubt whatsoever of what

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the objective is, and that is, we want to remove

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illegal immigrants who have committed crimes. And some of these crimes,

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what seventy percent of them have been involved with heinous crimes,

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from murder to rape, child trafficking, drug running, you know,

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go down the nefarious list. And yet it seems that

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you know, congressmen and women want to want to choose

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lawlessness over law and order.

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Yes, that is exactly right, and we cannot allow that

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to continue, and I guess that we're going to see

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when Tom Holman gus in if he is able to

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get a better read on the situation and find a

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better solution than what has been happening. We heard last

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night that Bovino is out along with several other Ice agent.

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I question whether that's the best thing to do or not,

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because it seems to me then you're rewarding the lawlessness

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at the time. These are our fellow Americans. Most of

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the people who are showing up are not insurgents. They're

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they're protesters. They're well meaning but misguided, and that's they're

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getting in the way and blocking traffic and doing some

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other things that are are unlawful. But I don't know

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that most of the people who are showing up are

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actually violent. I think that as a smaller subset the audience, well, it.

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Doesn't it doesn't take. It doesn't take a whole lot

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of people. As you know, Jenny Beth, I mean being

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involved with Tea Party patriots, and you saw what happened

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on the ground for many years when you were leading,

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you know, leading the campaign and the charge for you know,

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smaller government, accountability and all those things, and you had

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a rowdy people, but now it's like they've been much

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more sophisticated. There are you know, I mean these you

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look at the way these people are dressed. I mean

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it's not like they're just you know, going to the

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garage and you know, getting some equipment. I mean, they

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come in they're very well outfitted. So it demonstrates that

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there is money behind. We've had experts talking about that

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in that includes people outside of the country. You've got

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Iranian technicals, Middle East technical tentacles that are involved here,

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the CCP in large measure. Uh, you know, George Soros,

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the typical players are are involved in orchestrating a lot

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of this. But you know, going back to your earlier

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point about Baveno and some of the other ICE officials

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being you know, moved out, I think it's an opportunity

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to kind of all right, let's let's tone it down

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a little bit. Let Homan come in. Homan is a

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law enforcement, law enforcement guy, you know, and so he

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might be able to reason with them. But to me,

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you know, in the same manner as Trump arrangements syndrome exists,

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they have sanctuary city derangement syndrome. And you're dealing with

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a philosophy and a mindset that's untenable. I mean, to

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hear the way the governor talks, the way the mayor talks,

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Keith Ellison, the Attorney General of Minnesota. I mean, it's

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like this is their Raisin Dazure.

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You know.

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Yeah, you're right about You're exactly right about that bill

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and what it was going to see.

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I don't know.

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I worry because it seems like it might be rewarding

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lawlessness at the time. These are our fellow Americans that

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are out on the streets.

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By and large.

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I understand the fact that they may be influenced by foreigners,

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but most of what I'm seeing online are American. They

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appear to be American citizens. We have to have the

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federal government respond in a way that doesn't up up

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it and create an even worse situation, because we don't

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want to see civil war. We want to see the

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situation resolve. We want it to be resolved in a

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peaceful manner. And I actually think that that is what

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President Trump is trying to accomplish right now, and he's

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trying to do so in a way that respects the

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fact that he's respecting the Constitution, respecting the fact that

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it's Americans, but also saying you can't be lawless, you

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can't get in the way of an official police and

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law enforcement operations, and you've got to get out of

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the way of that. And I hope and I feel

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more confident with Holman being in there because he's such just.

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A law and order guy.

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He's a no nonsense guy, and he's going to get

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in there and try to solve the problem. And he's

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also an amazing communicator, so he can go see what's happening,

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then go out and tell the American people first him

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what he has seen happening.

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Yeah, I think I think you're right on that. And

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sometimes you need, you know, take a break, need to

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take a break, get a breath of fresh air here,

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and hopefully, you know, Tom Holman can do that. As

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you say, I'm concerned like you are, because these are

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citizens here in Minnesota now I believe they're being misguided.

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I think Governor Waltz is amping up the problem, exacerbating

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the problem along with Fry and as I mentioned, Attorney

722
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General Keith Ellison and thing that we need to keep

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in mind as American citizens, we believe in the Constitution.

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We need to follow the Constitution, and on its face,

725
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I mean the tough thing to begin with, sanctuary cities

726
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are not accommodated in the Constitution. I believe that sanctuary

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cities are in anathema to our US Constitution.

728
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Yeah, I think that you're exactly right. They are. You

729
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have to follow the federal law. And if you're not

730
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following the federal law, and federal law is not supreme

731
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law of the land, then we're no longer operating in

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the constitutional republic that we have, So that must also

733
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be addressed. These They can't just pick and choose which

734
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laws they want to abide by and bill. One other

735
00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:06.119
thing about Governor Waltz, it benefits him for the discussion

736
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to be about the protests and the rioting and not

737
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to be on the alleged fraud that he is alleged

738
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to have committed. So he's keeping everyone genned up. He's

739
00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:22.079
not trying to solve the problem on the streets of

740
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:25.039
Minnesota right now, and I think he's doing it out

741
00:39:25.079 --> 00:39:28.239
of self interest to protect himself because of what may

742
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be exposed from the alleged fraud.

743
00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:32.480
I think you're right, it's a bit of the tail

744
00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:35.360
shaking the dog here, right, I think that.

745
00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:39.119
That is exactly right, and so we need to in

746
00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:41.000
all of our discussions. I think we have to just

747
00:39:41.079 --> 00:39:43.239
keep coming back to the fact that this is happening

748
00:39:43.239 --> 00:39:45.519
on the streets of Minnesota must be dealt with, and

749
00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:47.719
the fraud must also be dealt with, and if Tim

750
00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:51.559
Waltz was actually engaged in that, he must be held accountable.

751
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Well, we got to leave it there. Jenny Beth Martin

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the president co founder of the Tea Party Patriots Jenny

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Beth where can they go for more information?

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Go to Tea Party Patriots dot org, t Party Patriots

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Huh.

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Thank you.

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Well.

846
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The United States you're reporting has experienced negative net migration

847
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in twenty twenty five. When was the last time we

848
00:44:51.239 --> 00:44:53.559
had net negative migration?

849
00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:56.320
You know, I don't know the answer to that question.

850
00:44:56.400 --> 00:44:58.360
It was a It had to be a long time ago.

851
00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:01.920
You might have to go back to the mid twentieth century,

852
00:45:01.679 --> 00:45:02.719
is my guess.

853
00:45:03.559 --> 00:45:05.519
And this is one of these cases, Bill, where I

854
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have to say.

855
00:45:06.119 --> 00:45:09.719
And I'm willing to say it, that the media was

856
00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:12.719
right and I was wrong. When Trump came into office,

857
00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:16.760
there were some sort of apocalyptic stories about, oh, you know,

858
00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:19.440
he's going to crack down on immigration and we'll we'll

859
00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:23.280
we'll actually lose, you know, we'll have less net Negative

860
00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:26.480
migration means that more migrants leave the country than come

861
00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:28.039
into the country in the year. And I didn't think

862
00:45:28.079 --> 00:45:30.119
that was going to happen because I thought, you know,

863
00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:33.159
it's going to be really hard. We issue over a

864
00:45:33.239 --> 00:45:36.639
million green cards every single year. So to get negative

865
00:45:36.679 --> 00:45:38.960
net migration, you've got to get more than a million

866
00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:42.239
people leaving the country to offset just the legal immigration,

867
00:45:42.599 --> 00:45:45.639
and then you add an illegal immigration. Well, the fact

868
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:48.679
is is the Trump administration has basically stopped the illegal

869
00:45:48.719 --> 00:45:52.519
immigration at the border, and they have been incredibly successful

870
00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:54.360
at getting people who are not supposed to be in

871
00:45:54.360 --> 00:45:57.039
the country to leave. Now we all know, and the

872
00:45:57.360 --> 00:45:59.599
deportations are very much in the news. We all know

873
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:02.880
that the true administration came close to setting a new

874
00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:07.199
record for interior enforcement maybe they did. The estimates vary,

875
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:10.320
but came very close to the Obama era record the

876
00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:14.000
first year under Obama about two hundred and forty thousand deportations.

877
00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:16.639
But in addition to that, this is something to Obama

878
00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:19.719
nobody else has ever done. The Trump administration has convinced

879
00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:23.599
maybe over a million people to self deport to leave

880
00:46:23.639 --> 00:46:26.119
on their own. You add up all those numbers and

881
00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:27.639
you get negative net migration.

882
00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:29.960
Now, this is this is where the media got it right,

883
00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:30.880
but where they got it wrong.

884
00:46:31.039 --> 00:46:33.519
This is not apocalyptic. This is not some sort of like, oh,

885
00:46:33.599 --> 00:46:34.400
we're falling off.

886
00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:37.360
A population cliff. Not at all, and this is a

887
00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:40.679
temporary phenomenon. Right now, it makes total sense.

888
00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:43.400
I'm sure your listeners can wrap their minds around the

889
00:46:43.639 --> 00:46:46.559
concept that if you have a historic wave of illegal

890
00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:50.480
immigration and then you enforce the law, you're going to

891
00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:54.039
have a historic wave of out migration. Right That's it

892
00:46:54.119 --> 00:46:56.679
kind of makes sense. It's not really rocket science. The

893
00:46:56.719 --> 00:46:58.840
only thing that I wasn't convinced of was that the

894
00:46:58.880 --> 00:47:02.599
Trump administration would be as successful as it has been.

895
00:47:02.679 --> 00:47:05.000
So that has been a surprise, but frankly it's been

896
00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:06.199
a welcome one.

897
00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:09.920
Well, Jeremy, I was double checking here and this says

898
00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:12.960
it's the lowest it's the first time in over fifty

899
00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:15.480
years we've had net migration, So to your point, you

900
00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:19.679
were roughly there. So that's you know, again, this is

901
00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:23.519
representative of the Trump administration. There's so many things that

902
00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:26.440
Trump is doing. It's like the first time in decades.

903
00:47:26.800 --> 00:47:31.800
And so here's another situation where common sense policies and

904
00:47:32.119 --> 00:47:36.039
governance and leadership has been leading to something so exceptional,

905
00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:40.119
especially when we really need it. And so, yes, and

906
00:47:40.119 --> 00:47:43.920
you're exactly right. You've got people self migrating, and the

907
00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:47.599
Trump administration, I think christ you Nome announced that I

908
00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:49.239
think they uped the ANNE a little bit. I mean,

909
00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:52.159
they're going to give you now it is like a thousand,

910
00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:54.800
now it's up to twenty five hundred or something. That

911
00:47:54.840 --> 00:47:58.920
they're incentivizing your one way trip out of the United States.

912
00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:00.599
They're encouraged people.

913
00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:02.639
To make their own plans and leave on their own,

914
00:48:02.679 --> 00:48:04.920
which is by far the most effective and efficient way.

915
00:48:04.960 --> 00:48:08.199
And if you're going to scale self deportations or out

916
00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:11.800
migration at any kind of really significant level, that's what you're.

917
00:48:11.679 --> 00:48:12.440
Going to have to have.

918
00:48:12.519 --> 00:48:16.280
You simply, you simply cannot arrest, detain, and deport enough

919
00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:19.559
people to offset the wave of illegal immigration that we

920
00:48:19.639 --> 00:48:21.920
had during the Biden years. And so it really is

921
00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:24.360
a two hander here where first of all, let's not

922
00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:28.920
forget the incredibly successful border changes that we've seen canceled

923
00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:31.760
all of the Biden era parole programs, which were probably

924
00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:35.119
unconstitutional these are all the programs where the Biden administration

925
00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:38.519
basically said you're inadmissible to come into the country.

926
00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:42.119
But we're going to admit you anyway. Those are gone, right,

927
00:48:42.199 --> 00:48:43.440
That's that's.

928
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:45.480
One of the magnets that you've turned off. But there's

929
00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:47.760
still other magnets that are still in play that you

930
00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:50.320
and I have been talking about for what for months now.

931
00:48:50.840 --> 00:48:52.679
Yeah, that's right, I mean, and the chief one is

932
00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:56.320
it's still very it's still relatively easy to get illegal

933
00:48:56.320 --> 00:48:58.920
work in the country. And you know, if you don't

934
00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:01.280
if you don't turn that off off, there's going to

935
00:49:01.320 --> 00:49:02.840
be a lot of people who were going to say, look,

936
00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:05.559
I even with all of the news of the ice

937
00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:08.960
raids and people coming down getting chased down the street.

938
00:49:08.639 --> 00:49:10.480
I'm making money and I'm going to stay.

939
00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:12.360
But if you take away that money, if you make

940
00:49:12.400 --> 00:49:15.679
it that much harder to make money illegally in this country,

941
00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:18.559
then there really is what is the economic benefit of

942
00:49:18.599 --> 00:49:21.559
staying here? And let's remind ourselves that.

943
00:49:21.639 --> 00:49:24.920
Is the main reason most people are in the country illegally.

944
00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:27.480
They want to make money. It's not a moral failing.

945
00:49:27.519 --> 00:49:29.000
But we have to have laws and we have to

946
00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:31.679
have limits. And if you want to re establish that

947
00:49:31.719 --> 00:49:34.239
credibility of our system, you've got to take away that

948
00:49:34.360 --> 00:49:36.280
incentive for people to stay.

949
00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:40.679
Well, what the Biden administration did, and even you know,

950
00:49:40.719 --> 00:49:43.159
the Obama administration before you talk about it, by the way,

951
00:49:43.280 --> 00:49:45.920
just as a sidebar, you talk about the numbers, we're

952
00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:49.519
not dealing with true comparative numbers, which is typical in

953
00:49:49.599 --> 00:49:54.480
dealing with anything with Obama. They smoke the numbers. They've

954
00:49:54.599 --> 00:49:56.880
messed around and manipulated them time and time. I mean,

955
00:49:56.920 --> 00:49:59.039
I remember in the days when they would talk about

956
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employment numbers right the following month, I just said, why

957
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don't you guys just from now on just put an

958
00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:08.280
asterix on that number, because I think in all the reports,

959
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maybe there was only one time that the numbers did

960
00:50:11.480 --> 00:50:13.880
not have to be adjusted, and when they were adjusted,

961
00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:15.800
they always were adjusted down.

962
00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:19.159
Yeah, I want to give credit where credit is due

963
00:50:19.199 --> 00:50:22.559
and then correct the record for all this deporter in

964
00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:28.599
chief nonsense that has lingered about Obama. There was very early,

965
00:50:28.639 --> 00:50:31.559
at the very beginning of his administration, the Obama administration

966
00:50:32.360 --> 00:50:36.119
was removing people like clockwork, and they didn't go to

967
00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:38.440
any great length or effort to do it. They inherited

968
00:50:38.440 --> 00:50:41.039
a system that was established late in the George W.

969
00:50:41.119 --> 00:50:44.800
Bush administration, too late to my organization's mind, but they

970
00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:48.639
nevertheless they established it. This system, the Secure Community System,

971
00:50:48.679 --> 00:50:52.480
gave ICE access to US jails and prisons. So when

972
00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:55.000
people were booked for any kind of reason, they were booked,

973
00:50:55.159 --> 00:50:57.400
they were identified as being in the country illegally.

974
00:50:57.440 --> 00:50:59.320
ICE could put a detainer on them, come and pick

975
00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:01.480
them up purely at the jail.

976
00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:04.039
You don't have to go to You didn't have to say, hey,

977
00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:05.840
I've got a deportation quota.

978
00:51:05.880 --> 00:51:07.079
I want you to go out there in the streets

979
00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:07.880
and find this stuff.

980
00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:10.280
You just they're just getting phone calls from jails and

981
00:51:10.280 --> 00:51:12.480
getting pinged on, you know, on the internet online say oh,

982
00:51:12.519 --> 00:51:14.159
we're gonna go pick pick this guy up and get

983
00:51:14.199 --> 00:51:16.199
him out of the country. That was just moving like

984
00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:18.480
clockwork early in the Obama administration, and that's why the

985
00:51:18.599 --> 00:51:21.679
numbers were so high. Now, the Obama that's to their credit,

986
00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:25.000
to their detriment, they killed that program.

987
00:51:25.119 --> 00:51:26.199
They within within a year.

988
00:51:26.559 --> 00:51:28.639
They didn't they kill it within a year or something.

989
00:51:28.719 --> 00:51:30.159
They killed it within the first couple of years.

990
00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:32.400
You know, by the midterms it was basically gone and

991
00:51:32.440 --> 00:51:35.480
by twenty fourteen, when the Obama administration was pushing DAKA

992
00:51:35.679 --> 00:51:39.159
and DAPPA and all these other programs they had, basically

993
00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:43.400
they replaced the entire interior enforcement system with this program

994
00:51:43.440 --> 00:51:48.119
called Priority Enforcement Program, the PEP program, and the PEP

995
00:51:48.159 --> 00:51:51.239
program is basically what we have seen throughout the Obama

996
00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:54.960
and then the Biden administration. Which was the selling point

997
00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:57.880
of it is we're only we're going to prioritize criminals,

998
00:51:57.880 --> 00:52:00.840
which everybody agrees with. Of course you should probaboritize criminals,

999
00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:04.199
But what it really did was we're going to deprioritize

1000
00:52:04.280 --> 00:52:07.039
everybody else. We are just simply not going to enforce

1001
00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:10.079
the law against anybody who is quote unquote.

1002
00:52:09.719 --> 00:52:11.480
Only in the country illegally.

1003
00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:15.079
Now, what happened is what anybody would think, any basic

1004
00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:16.920
economists would predict.

1005
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:20.360
The rewards incentives went around the world.

1006
00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:22.960
People said, if you get inside the United States during

1007
00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:25.800
the Obama administration and if you don't go around chopping

1008
00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:28.920
people up into pieces, you are going to get to stay.

1009
00:52:29.480 --> 00:52:32.360
And the Obama's ICE director said as much.

1010
00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:35.400
The Washington Post finally reported this in twenty fifteen, at

1011
00:52:35.400 --> 00:52:37.960
the very end of the Obama's registration. They said, you know,

1012
00:52:38.000 --> 00:52:42.039
actually All of these programs were basically there to ensure

1013
00:52:42.239 --> 00:52:44.320
that the vast majority of people who were in the

1014
00:52:44.320 --> 00:52:47.400
country illegally got to stay in the country illegally so

1015
00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:50.480
they could benefit from the big comprehensive amnesty bill that

1016
00:52:50.760 --> 00:52:53.480
President Obama wanted to get through Congress. So let's just

1017
00:52:53.519 --> 00:52:57.960
be clear and the way that Obama juiced his deportation numbers,

1018
00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:00.519
because how people will say, like, well, how does deportation

1019
00:53:00.599 --> 00:53:03.599
numbers get so high while he was You say, Jeremy, that.

1020
00:53:03.440 --> 00:53:04.960
He's gutting Interior enforcement.

1021
00:53:05.280 --> 00:53:07.360
Well he did it using the same trick that the

1022
00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:10.519
Bush administration used, that the Trump administration uses, that the

1023
00:53:10.519 --> 00:53:11.679
Biden administration uses.

1024
00:53:11.719 --> 00:53:12.679
They all use it.

1025
00:53:12.280 --> 00:53:16.760
It's they count border turnarounds as deportations. Somebody comes up

1026
00:53:16.800 --> 00:53:19.960
to the border, they get turned around, they sent back boom, deportation. Now,

1027
00:53:19.960 --> 00:53:22.280
you and I and most most Americans we think deportation

1028
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:25.119
somebody who got picked up in Chicago or Memphis or

1029
00:53:25.119 --> 00:53:27.079
something like that, right, But they say, no, we're going

1030
00:53:27.119 --> 00:53:30.400
to boost up the numbers. And because people around the

1031
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:32.880
world knew that if you could come to the country illegally,

1032
00:53:32.920 --> 00:53:35.679
you could stay in the country illegally, you had huge

1033
00:53:35.760 --> 00:53:38.280
numbers of people coming to the border, which means even

1034
00:53:38.280 --> 00:53:41.320
though the Obama administration only did a SOS job of

1035
00:53:41.400 --> 00:53:44.280
keeping people out of the border or from crossing the border,

1036
00:53:44.440 --> 00:53:47.000
they had huge numbers of people to turn back every year.

1037
00:53:47.079 --> 00:53:51.800
Even the Biden administration that created completely unconstitutional quasi legal

1038
00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:54.599
pathways for people to come through, they were turning people back.

1039
00:53:54.880 --> 00:53:59.039
That's how the Obama and Biden administration has high deportation

1040
00:53:59.199 --> 00:54:01.639
numbers because you have so many people coming to the

1041
00:54:01.639 --> 00:54:03.760
border that you have so many it's like whack them all,

1042
00:54:04.519 --> 00:54:06.599
so many fish in a barrel, Just turn them around,

1043
00:54:06.639 --> 00:54:09.239
turn around, and you jack up your numbers. Meanwhile, you're

1044
00:54:09.239 --> 00:54:12.719
doing little to no enforcement in the interiorier country.

1045
00:54:13.119 --> 00:54:17.239
Yeah, exactly, it's all slight of hand stuff that's going on. Meanwhile,

1046
00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:22.000
you're saying that, you know, the estimate of undocumented miners.

1047
00:54:22.280 --> 00:54:25.559
Initially it was about two fifty, then three hundred thousand.

1048
00:54:25.639 --> 00:54:28.920
Now we're up to a half million unaccompanied miners that

1049
00:54:28.920 --> 00:54:32.440
have entered the US during this border crisis. And many

1050
00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:35.760
of these childrens we know and that ice is discovered,

1051
00:54:36.119 --> 00:54:42.119
have been abused, they've been exploited, they're in dangerous labor situations.

1052
00:54:42.199 --> 00:54:44.679
You know, they're all part of the net of human

1053
00:54:44.719 --> 00:54:48.559
trafficking that goes along with this deal, and some have

1054
00:54:48.639 --> 00:54:49.199
even died.

1055
00:54:50.039 --> 00:54:53.719
Yeah, it's a lingering impact of the border crisis that

1056
00:54:54.159 --> 00:54:55.000
is still with us.

1057
00:54:55.039 --> 00:54:56.159
We have not resolved it.

1058
00:54:56.960 --> 00:54:59.119
We have hopefully turned off the spigots so that we're

1059
00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:02.199
not getting one hundred of thousands of young kids coming

1060
00:55:02.239 --> 00:55:04.679
into the country every year who shouldn't be, who should

1061
00:55:04.719 --> 00:55:08.360
be back at home with their families. So that's a

1062
00:55:08.360 --> 00:55:10.719
good thing, and Congress needs to seal the deal by

1063
00:55:10.719 --> 00:55:13.480
passing legislation to make sure that that does not happen again.

1064
00:55:13.599 --> 00:55:16.480
Right now, we are completely dependent on the policies of

1065
00:55:16.519 --> 00:55:19.320
this current administration, which you and I know we talked

1066
00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:21.760
about last week. The state of Virginia just showed us

1067
00:55:21.800 --> 00:55:24.719
what happens when you change an executive without locking things

1068
00:55:24.760 --> 00:55:28.039
in by law, David Boom, those policies are gone.

1069
00:55:28.079 --> 00:55:29.599
We're going back to the old policies.

1070
00:55:30.079 --> 00:55:32.800
And the other thing is is we have to continue

1071
00:55:32.840 --> 00:55:34.920
to enforce the law in the interior of the country

1072
00:55:34.960 --> 00:55:38.679
to break up these trafficking networks and to identify, find

1073
00:55:38.760 --> 00:55:41.599
these kids, get them out of these exploitative situations, and

1074
00:55:41.639 --> 00:55:46.000
hopefully restore them to their rightful families in their home countries.

1075
00:55:46.639 --> 00:55:48.599
Well, we got to leave it there as always. Jeremy Back,

1076
00:55:48.639 --> 00:55:50.760
We appreciate you. How can people be in touch?

1077
00:55:51.440 --> 00:55:54.239
Come to NumbersUSA dot com and find us on x

1078
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at Numbers USA.

1079
00:55:56.559 --> 00:55:58.840
Jeremy Back, the co president of Numbers USA.

1080
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Thank you.

1081
00:55:59.239 --> 00:56:00.000
Jeremy, have a great day.

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Hey, Good morning America. Six minutes after the top of

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the r Right now, I'm Bill Martineze Scott Powell from

1105
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the Discovery Institute and author himself. Mister Scott, how are

1106
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we doing it?

1107
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Very well?

1108
00:57:23.800 --> 00:57:25.199
Bill, Good to see you well.

1109
00:57:26.239 --> 00:57:29.599
Lots to catch up on in terms of what's happening

1110
00:57:29.639 --> 00:57:32.920
in our country. Donald Trump has a lot of wind

1111
00:57:33.000 --> 00:57:36.280
at his back, lots of winds that are going on.

1112
00:57:36.920 --> 00:57:40.559
Terrif's hanging in the balance. Some distraction right now with Greenland,

1113
00:57:40.559 --> 00:57:45.039
But I think his appeal to Davos, who's quite compelling

1114
00:57:45.679 --> 00:57:48.840
in laying out the case for why the European Nations

1115
00:57:48.920 --> 00:57:52.119
NATO ought to support this, for all the good that

1116
00:57:52.199 --> 00:57:58.000
America has done for decades for NATO, and for what

1117
00:57:58.039 --> 00:58:01.360
it would represent for national security, not only for America

1118
00:58:01.679 --> 00:58:06.440
but for the world. Because as America go, so goes

1119
00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:10.360
the world. Wouldn't you say absolutely absolutely?

1120
00:58:11.199 --> 00:58:15.119
You know, I think the Greenland thing really just came

1121
00:58:15.159 --> 00:58:19.000
out of the blue almost and people are still trying

1122
00:58:19.039 --> 00:58:24.400
to sort it out. I think, you know, Trump, Trump

1123
00:58:24.400 --> 00:58:28.800
needs to make a clear case of why Greenland is

1124
00:58:29.039 --> 00:58:33.239
critical to the national security of the United States, Canada

1125
00:58:33.880 --> 00:58:37.519
and really for that matter, Europe. I mean, if America

1126
00:58:37.639 --> 00:58:45.679
is not secure, everyone's at risk. So exactly, I mean,

1127
00:58:45.719 --> 00:58:47.840
I think he's Look, he's a great deal maker. We

1128
00:58:47.960 --> 00:58:50.000
know that, so I think he can structure a deal.

1129
00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:54.719
I don't know that America needs to totally control Greenland,

1130
00:58:54.760 --> 00:58:59.079
but Greenland needs to be in the orbit of American

1131
00:58:59.159 --> 00:59:03.559
influence because we're going to be the ones, you know,

1132
00:59:04.440 --> 00:59:09.440
developing the technologies to you know, to protect Greenland and

1133
00:59:09.480 --> 00:59:12.960
to use Greenland as a defensive platform. That's that's going

1134
00:59:13.039 --> 00:59:15.519
to be done by the United States. So the United

1135
00:59:15.519 --> 00:59:19.639
States needs to have a dominant voice in Greenland. And

1136
00:59:19.719 --> 00:59:25.679
I think I would guess that the Greenland people who've

1137
00:59:25.679 --> 00:59:30.119
been neglected by Denmark can be very open minded about

1138
00:59:30.519 --> 00:59:34.960
the growing American influence in Greenland, the dominant influence of

1139
00:59:35.000 --> 00:59:38.360
America in Greenland. But I don't know that we need

1140
00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:43.679
to absolutely, you know, have have a monopoly.

1141
00:59:43.159 --> 00:59:45.920
Control in Greenland. I'm not sure.

1142
00:59:46.519 --> 00:59:49.800
I think there's some resistance to that. There's certainly resistance

1143
00:59:49.840 --> 00:59:52.079
to doing anything by force. So I think you have

1144
00:59:52.119 --> 00:59:56.079
to build a consensus, right yeah, Well, and I.

1145
00:59:56.039 --> 00:59:59.679
Think that he's doing that, and he's presented, I believe,

1146
01:00:00.639 --> 01:00:05.360
a first round case in front of the international bodies

1147
01:00:05.840 --> 01:00:09.920
and the European Nations and NATO there as to why,

1148
01:00:10.960 --> 01:00:14.480
you know, the Greenlanders would be better off with America

1149
01:00:15.400 --> 01:00:18.559
if they had a tighter bond there because Denmark. What

1150
01:00:18.599 --> 01:00:22.920
has Denmark done for Greenland? They promised, made promises, didn't

1151
01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:25.840
even even fulfill one percent of the promise.

1152
01:00:26.880 --> 01:00:28.400
Uh so they.

1153
01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:32.719
Failed in that regard. You know, they gave them sterilization,

1154
01:00:33.679 --> 01:00:37.880
you know, as Scott Besson said over the weekend. Yet

1155
01:00:37.920 --> 01:00:41.280
you've got that emotional appeal that here. You know, you

1156
01:00:41.360 --> 01:00:45.320
get certain people of Greenland that associate with Denmark and say,

1157
01:00:46.000 --> 01:00:50.280
you know, we're more aligned Mark than we are. So

1158
01:00:50.480 --> 01:00:53.440
like those, you know, it's like the monkey with his hand,

1159
01:00:54.440 --> 01:00:56.719
he will not let go of that in the jar.

1160
01:00:56.920 --> 01:00:59.760
So now he's dragging this jar around everywhere he goes.

1161
01:01:00.239 --> 01:01:02.599
And if the Greenlanders can let go of that in

1162
01:01:02.639 --> 01:01:07.519
the jar, I mean there's just a heck of a

1163
01:01:08.280 --> 01:01:11.320
I think a prosperous future for Greenlanders.

1164
01:01:12.280 --> 01:01:13.280
Oh absolutely.

1165
01:01:13.280 --> 01:01:15.480
I mean, I think the example of how we've handled

1166
01:01:15.480 --> 01:01:23.760
Alaska is really an interesting case that the Greenlanders, UH

1167
01:01:24.159 --> 01:01:26.760
would like to have happen to them. That is to say,

1168
01:01:26.800 --> 01:01:32.000
the natural resources of Greenland that they benefit from the

1169
01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:33.679
extraction of.

1170
01:01:34.880 --> 01:01:36.280
You know, it's going to be you know.

1171
01:01:36.320 --> 01:01:38.360
Probably oil and gas, but other things too. It can

1172
01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:43.760
be applied to every mineral extraction that a small portion

1173
01:01:44.119 --> 01:01:50.639
is goes into a sovereign in this case, in Alaska's case,

1174
01:01:50.679 --> 01:01:54.960
it's a state sovereign wealth fund and the and the

1175
01:01:55.000 --> 01:01:59.960
Alaskan citizens get a check every year. Every citizen gets

1176
01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:05.199
check from that Alaska Sovereign wealth from and that you know,

1177
01:02:05.280 --> 01:02:08.840
that fund has been created by taking oil out of

1178
01:02:08.840 --> 01:02:14.480
Alaska over many years. So Greenland, the Greenland people and

1179
01:02:15.239 --> 01:02:18.519
done and done by you could participate in our natural

1180
01:02:18.519 --> 01:02:21.559
resources and we would say yes and this is the plan.

1181
01:02:24.039 --> 01:02:24.239
Right.

1182
01:02:24.440 --> 01:02:27.360
So yeah, we've done it before it and there's there's

1183
01:02:29.320 --> 01:02:31.719
right and and there's proof. As you say, you you

1184
01:02:31.800 --> 01:02:33.920
raise a great point here as far as the experience

1185
01:02:33.960 --> 01:02:35.880
with Alaska. You want to know what somebody will do,

1186
01:02:35.920 --> 01:02:39.599
look at what they've done so America in its beneficence

1187
01:02:39.880 --> 01:02:42.880
has done this. What other nation, what other country you

1188
01:02:42.880 --> 01:02:45.079
think Russia is going to share? And in that you

1189
01:02:45.079 --> 01:02:48.000
think China is going to share? Uh, you know, the

1190
01:02:48.039 --> 01:02:52.000
prosperity with the you know, with the residents of Alaska

1191
01:02:52.119 --> 01:02:53.519
or Greenland of.

1192
01:02:53.400 --> 01:02:57.199
Course not yeah, no, I mean it's really it's it's

1193
01:02:57.239 --> 01:02:59.639
really the American model. I mean, the American model goes

1194
01:02:59.679 --> 01:03:02.480
back to the founding of the country that the government,

1195
01:03:03.519 --> 01:03:07.320
you know, is instituted for the benefit of the people,

1196
01:03:08.039 --> 01:03:13.320
right to product the people's rights and to help them prosper.

1197
01:03:13.559 --> 01:03:16.400
So it's not a hard case to make. It just

1198
01:03:16.440 --> 01:03:17.119
needs to be made.

1199
01:03:18.760 --> 01:03:22.719
Well. The tough part is you get emotions. Emotions get

1200
01:03:22.800 --> 01:03:25.480
involved and then you get antithical forces here in this

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country because anything that has to do with Trump, and

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they could even be another win for Trump. You got

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the Democrats yelling and screaming about that instead of looking

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looking at what's what's best for all concern what's best

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for America. Even you know, even Canada, Canada should be

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supporting this because with a Golden dome that Trump is

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talking about erecting here, guess what, because they're in such

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proximity to our country, Canada is going to be protected.

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Now do you think do you think Canada is going

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to invest one dime into this Golden Dome?

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Probably not.

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There's there's again going back to what we said. If

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you want to know what somebody's going to do, look

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what they've done. There's never been any indication that Canada

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is you know, is that forward thinking, you know, to say,

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all right, look at we want to partner with you,

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we want to be good neighbors, and yeah, let's let's

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enter into our fair share. Because even when it came

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to NATO, how reluctant were they to you know, come

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up to two percent? Even if I think there now

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everybody they've agreed to said okay, forget about two percent.

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Five percent is and I think again, Canada is lacking.

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I think Spain is you know, lagging behind as well.

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Yeah, I think so, I think so.

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But you know the other thing I think, uh, you know,

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Davos is sort of crowding out the news. So everything

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that's everything.

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Going on in Davos is really occupying the news, but.

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Really here at home, you know, I think the Trump

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administration needs to do three things to assure that we're

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going to have continuity of government. In other words, that

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the midterm elections are not going to go the way

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of rewarding the opposition party as they oftentimes do. You know,

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we need to maintain the Republican control of the House

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and the Senate, and I see no reason why we

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we shouldn't expect to expand our numbers.

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There because what do the Democrats have to offer?

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Nothing the Republicans have have you know, have success to offer.

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So I think we need to focus on three things.

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One is prosecuting high crime felony crimes committed by public

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public officials, and and that would be prior administration public officials.

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We know who they are, we know what they've done.

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They need to be prosecuted. It needs to be done

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visibly and let the chips fall where they will. Prosecutions

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means that there's legal action taken and then the courts

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decide what the penalty should be.

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Uh so, and.

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That would be exactly Scott, Scotty, let me padse you

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there for just yeah, okay, let me pause you there

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for a second because we got to go to quick break.

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We'll pick it up on the other side more from

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Scott Powell after this, stay with us.

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We're back with the America just about nineteen minutes after

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the top of the r Bill Martinez here with Scott Powell,

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the author and member of the Discovery Institute. Scott, as

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you were saying, yes, I think that the American people

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are frustrated because it's taken some time here. But I mean,

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my goodness, give Trump some time here. I mean, even

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the Democrats are wanting you know, they're yelling up and

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down well, and you understand why because it's all part

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of their resistance campaign. But look at the Democrats have

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had twelve years cumulatively, eight under Obama, four under Biden,

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and Trump was cleaning up the mess in his first

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term that was created by Obama, and now he even

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has You know, you had eight years and now you

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have even four years of Obama with him in the middle.

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Biden did more damage in four years than Obama did

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in eight and the onus has been on Trump to

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clean this up, and he's I think he's just done

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an awesome job and people has Yeah.

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I mean, I just hope that that, you know, the

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the the continuing speed and increased speed of deportation of

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illegal immigrants has to continue. We we can't back down

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because the Democrats don't want, you know, illegal immigrants to

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port it. I mean, it's incredible how our countries change.

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Both Clinton and Obama. You know, we're big proponents of

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deportation of illegal immigrants. The numbers were big, has even

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come close to the numbers that were deported by Clinton

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and Obama.

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Yeah, but those numbers were were rigged a little bit

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too scotty. That's what we're finding out that they had

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you know, they actually deported, probably because that's what they do.

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But so that's you know, so uh three three things.

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Election reform very important to do. National elections need to

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be trusted by the American people. They're not right now,

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and we've had no as far as I can make out,

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no states have really taken on election reform, even though

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the you know, the Constitution calls for the states to

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set the terms of their own elections. But I think

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because of our problems in national elections, I think it

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has to be done by the federal government, and it

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can be very simple. I mean, I think everybody would

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get behind that every voter should have an id that

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instead of relying on you know, electronic vote tabulation systems,

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that we go back to paper ballots period, and that

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we have within.

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The country on one day, yes, tabulated in this country,

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not outside in some foreign land somewhere.

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That's ridiculous. Absolutely, it's ridiculous. I mean what we saw

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is is scandalous, yes, so, but it was largely covered

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up as you know the media is so you know,

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the media can be manipulated so much, and both dominion

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voting systems and smart manic threaten the lawsuits to all

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the media if they talked about election reform and they

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mentioned these key players that were instrumental in the election fraud. Yes,

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but I think everything is changed enough. Evidence has come out,

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has come out, and Georgia's come out elsewhere that this

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is this needs to be this needs to get done,

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and it needs to get done soon because the mid

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terms are going to be upon us before we know it, November.

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Right.

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Well, you're exactly you're exactly right, Scott. In some states

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have made moves to do it, you know, to modify

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and get their act together. But I agree that there

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needs to be federal pressure and it needs to come

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in a concerted way. Now there's been a bill before

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Congress to that would go a long way, and you know,

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again the Republicans have not been able to you know,

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push it over the finish line, and the Democrats are

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doing everything they can to resist because this disturbs their model.

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They have a model for success. They gets done the

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results that they have determined.

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Right, yes, absolutely that you know, Look, there there's been

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election manipulation on both sides, but it is it is

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much greater on the Democrats side than on the Republican side.

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I mean, the whole strategy of bringing all these illegals

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in the country wasn't just to get them to vote.

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It was to change the configuration of the populations and

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states to award more seats to Democrat constitution Democrats. Yea, Look,

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the the illegal immigrants are going to vote. I mean,

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first of all, they're highly influenced. They're going to vote

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down Democrat because it's the Democrats that brought them in.

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Of course, it's the Democrats that protect them, so of

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course they're going to vote for the Democrats. So we

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have perhaps twenty million new people to skew the you know,

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the the the the redistricting.

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It's crazy.

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Anyway, we need election reform. And lastly, you know, you

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know we as I said, so we need election reform,

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We need prosecution of felony crimes committed by public officials,

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and then we need then third, we need the restoration

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of law and order.

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In the cities in America.

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If Trump can get those three things, three very important

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things done, the midterm elections will be no problem for

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Republicans because the Republicans will go out and vote. The

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base of the party is highly motivated by you know,

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important issues, and when when the Republicans don't get those done,

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they lose their enthusiasm to vote. I mean a lot

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of people don't vote because the they think that the

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elections don't mean anything anymore.

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They're rigged. They believe they're rigged. Exactly. Yeah, well that's why,

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that's why, like I like what when you laid this out,

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the number one objective was national election reform. That is key.

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01:17:28.600 --> 01:17:31.399
There's a government of for by we the people. You

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you do an end run around that substantive statement and

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01:17:35.880 --> 01:17:42.600
premise of our constitution. When you when you execute fraudulent elections.

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Well you make us the same as all the Banana

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01:17:45.000 --> 01:17:48.039
Republicans of the world. The United States loses its moral

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stature of being a country of the people, by the people,

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and for the people, which has always made America sort

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of the beacon of freedom and hope for the world.

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01:17:59.000 --> 01:18:02.159
If we don't have little elections in America, we lose

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our moral authority on the world stage as well as domestically.

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Well, we can't allow that to happen.

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Uh. Election integrity is absolutely essential to the health of

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this country, and and the and and and the and

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01:18:20.359 --> 01:18:23.600
the leadership of America in the world. We have to

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have election integrity, no if sands or butts.

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Well, you got to think about under the Biden administration.

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How do you think the international community viewed after that election?

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Oh, I mean, of course they don't. They don't have

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01:18:45.920 --> 01:18:49.239
They don't follow things as closely as as we do.

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That we American citizens can see more. But but I

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01:18:53.600 --> 01:18:57.239
think that it was so obvious that Donald Trump is

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01:18:57.279 --> 01:19:01.119
a very popular leader. He has these rallies where thirty

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five forty five thousand people gathered at every single rally,

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01:19:05.119 --> 01:19:08.439
Joe Biden is nowhere to be seen. He has no

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01:19:08.520 --> 01:19:13.000
particular success as a senator he has. He brings nothing

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01:19:13.039 --> 01:19:16.399
to the table and he doesn't campaign. How the heck

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did he get eighty million votes without vote fraud?

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You see. But when I contend and maintain, Scott, is

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the people internationally that met with them. You know, if

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you could hear what they were saying behind doors. They

1475
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put up with Joe Biden because he represented America, but

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01:19:36.880 --> 01:19:40.079
they knew that he was an empty suit, and Pustin

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knew that she knew it, and and these other world leaders.

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01:19:44.159 --> 01:19:48.119
And then they were quite a tremendously of course they did.

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01:19:48.640 --> 01:19:51.439
Of course they did. Yeah, yeah, so we so we

1480
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didn't fool anybody. Joe Biden didn't fool anybody. And uh

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01:19:55.720 --> 01:19:58.439
and here you know, Donald Trump comes back in and

1482
01:19:58.479 --> 01:20:00.279
look what he's done in short orders.

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01:20:00.039 --> 01:20:04.760
Scott, that's amazing, it's it's incredible, actually so, but what

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01:20:04.840 --> 01:20:07.760
we still need to have election reform very important for

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01:20:07.800 --> 01:20:11.359
the whole future of the country. And you know, look

1486
01:20:11.359 --> 01:20:15.520
at if France can have elections on paper ballots and

1487
01:20:15.640 --> 01:20:19.079
have the votes tabulated the same day so they know

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01:20:19.199 --> 01:20:21.479
the results by the evening of voting day.

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I think American could do that too.

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01:20:24.800 --> 01:20:27.000
We used to do that, Scott. We used to do

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01:20:27.039 --> 01:20:27.600
We used to do it.

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We did.

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01:20:28.159 --> 01:20:31.199
Yeah, until we brought all these machines that opened up

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the door to all this fret.

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01:20:32.680 --> 01:20:36.399
And we open up the floodgates of mail in votes

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01:20:37.039 --> 01:20:40.720
and that we didn't control the you know, to control

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01:20:40.800 --> 01:20:43.239
put any controls in it all. In other words, we've

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allowed votes to be counted after the election day.

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Yeah. Everything, everything that you could execute and do and

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employ that could make for a fraudulent election, America embraced

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absolutely absolutely the bottom line. Yeah, I'll tell you. We

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got to leave it there. Scott pal Senior Fellow, Discovery Institute.

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If you have not, I recommend highly Rediscovering America. That's

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his book, How the National Holidays tell an amazing story

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of who we are. He's also the member of This

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Present Danger China, the Committee on This Present Danger China,

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and a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute. Scott has

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always appreciated the time. Happy New Year, my friend, take care.

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Happy to you, Bill, find it's your artist, Okay, thank you.

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Hey, welcome back to America. Bill Martinez here. Great to

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have you with us and you know, every day Americans

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are bombarded with nutrition advice from social feeds and headlines.

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Often it's hard to know what's credible.

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Right.

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Well, there's a new national survey from the Academy of

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Nutrition and Dietetics revealing a troubling trend that nearly half

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of adults rely on social media, online sources, or AI

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recommendations instead of credentialed dietetics professionals for nutrition advice. Well,

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despite this growing demand for information, believe it or not,

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eighty six percent of Americans have never consulted a dietetics

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professional and only seven percent can accurately describe what they

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do now. This knowledge gap leaves millions without support that

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could prevent chronic disease, improve health outcomes, and guide sustainable

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lifestyle changes. Well, lucky for us, we have a Dan Brandstetter.

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She was the president and I guess still currently is

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the president of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics. She's

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here to address this misinformation. Dan, thank you so much

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for coming on the show. We appreciate your time and

1589
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all that you have to offer to help clear some

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of this narrative and confusion out there for us.

1591
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Thanks for having me, Bill.

1592
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Well As I said, there's so much in this information

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age in which we live in. Everybody has an opinion.

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But I think we're starving for the truth, the whole

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truth and nothing. But so can you help us with that?

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Sure? It is hard.

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People are bombarded with nutrition and food advice on a

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daily basis, and from so many sources, from social media,

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from AI, but also from well intentioned friends and family,

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and it's exhausting trying to figure out what's true and

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accurate and what's misinformation. And sometimes the misinformation is the

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really headline grabbing stuff.

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It's the fad, it's the quick fit.

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It's easy to get lured into that as opposed to

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sorting through and looking for the really accurate information. And

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that's where nutrition and dietetics professionals can really play a role,

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because they're trained to be able to interpret and translate

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that complicated nutrition science and translate it into real food

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that people actually eat, to be able to provide personalized

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guidance that with solutions that help your lifestyle, help meet

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help you meet your lifestyle goals, but are also affordable,

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that are convenient, that fit with your lifestyle, and most importantly,

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are delicious and craveable and fun to eat exactly.

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Oh yeah, by the way, all that good stuff. Well,

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you know, the challenge that we have is that the

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reality is I say, on the upside, the good news

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is are interested? You know. I always use this, you

1618
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know quote from Yogi Berra who said once he said,

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if I knew I was going to live this long,

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I'd have taken better care of myself, right, And so

1621
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you have this idea of people wanting to live in

1622
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a more healthy lifestyle, but they want to make sure

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the information they're getting is correct because now we're finding

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out the pyramid that we thought the food pyramid that

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we thought was good, now it's bad or whatever. And

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then all these other things red dyes and things that

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have been inculcated in our food that that's been causing

1628
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problems and all this stuff. So I think it's an

1629
01:28:38.239 --> 01:28:41.399
opportune time for dietetics to come in address these issues

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in such a way to recapture the credibility. Is that

1631
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fair to say?

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Absolutely?

1633
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The thing is is that many of the social influencers,

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they're not trained, they don't have the credentials to be

1635
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able to interpret but sometimes very complicated neutral science that

1636
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continually evolves, and unlike the influencers, registered dietitian and nutritionists

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have ongoing, continuing education requirements, which means that they are

1638
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constantly up to date so that they can provide the

1639
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most current nutrition science translated.

1640
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Into actual food that works for people's lifestyles.

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What's a barrier to entry in terms of the connection

1642
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between the everyday people and a dietitian. What's getting in

1643
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the way?

1644
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Well, I think there are a couple of things.

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First, the perception that seeing a registered dietitian nutritionist is expensive,

1646
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but many insurance companies now cover the services of a

1647
01:29:45.239 --> 01:29:49.640
registered dietitian nutritionists. The second is that people are fearful

1648
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that they're going to be judged, that they see a

1649
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dietitian as the food police, but registered dietitian nutritionists nutrition professionals.

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They lead with thempathy and understanding, and their goal is

1651
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to help you find nutrition and food solutions that work

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best for your lifestyle, that support your individual health goals,

1653
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which is important.

1654
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But that also fit with your budget.

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That are affordable, they're convenient, but most importantly again, they're

1656
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delicious and enjoyable.

1657
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So how can working with a dietitian make a real

1658
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difference in someone's overall health.

1659
01:30:34.119 --> 01:30:39.279
Nutrition and dietetics professionals are an often underrecognized but really

1660
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important piece of the healthcare team. They play an important

1661
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role in prevention, but also in managing and treating chronic

1662
01:30:49.239 --> 01:30:55.279
conditions and when it comes to complex conditions things like diabetes, hypertension,

1663
01:30:55.880 --> 01:31:00.960
renal disease, GI disorders, lipid disorders, and so many more.

1664
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Having to register dietician and nutritionness is part of that

1665
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healthcare team ensures that you're going to get the most

1666
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comprehensive care to make sure that you have optimized your

1667
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health outcomes.

1668
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I guess Stan, what I like about it is that,

1669
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because I'm a person, when I'm dealing with an issue,

1670
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I want to get to the root of the matter, right,

1671
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I want to get to what is causing the problem.

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I drive my doctor nuts that way, but you know,

1673
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he still likes me for whatever reason. But it's just

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because I want to know. And I think most people

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want to know about their health and they want to

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live right, but they just don't have the right information

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and or they get something you know that's that's unnecessarily complicated.

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Uh.

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And you know, now that you're here, I'm going to

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take advantage of you if you don't mind, and just

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say make it simple for us. What's what's the simple

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maybe one, two, three of our diet that we could

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do that could make a big difference of starting tomorrow

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if not today.

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Well, I would say number one is make it personalized,

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because you know, one piece of standard advice that someone

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throws out on social media doesn't necessarily work for your lifestyle.

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And that's why it's so important to work with a

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registered dietitian nutritionist because they can take the you know,

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the science based advice and help you find small steps

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that work for your individual lifestyle. That's why so many people,

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you know, maybe fail at different diets or a regimes

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because it's not personalized and it's not individualized. Small steps

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is another big, big thing. Don't try to change your

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entire life in one in one swoop. But again, working

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with a registered dietitian nutritionist can really help you identify

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the small steps that mean the most in getting to

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your health goals.

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Okay, well, let me ask you this, what drove you

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to become a registered dietitian.

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I think there's a couple of things. I love food

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and I also love science, so it was the perfect

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marriage of those two things.

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And here you are. You've been doing this for more

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than thirty years, so you probably have forgotten more than

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we'll ever learn. So God bless you for coming on

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and sharing your insight with us. She's thirty, like I said,

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over thirty years of experiencing the food nutrition industry. Currently

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the president of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics, which

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happens to be Oh yeah, by the way, the world's

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largest organization of food and nutritional professionals. So they've got

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the science behind them, the experienced testimonies, and as you say,

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this is how you can remind us that our health

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plan needs to be personalized. Right, I think that's my

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big tech away.

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That's right, And I'd like to invite your listeners to

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visit eatright dot org to find a registered dietitian that

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they can work with, and also to find out more

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about our new nationwide campaign, a Seated at Every Table,

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which really focuses on the value that dietitians and nutritionists.

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Bring to help people meet their health goals.

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Now, this is the Academy's new initiative, right that we

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were going to talk about, So we got about thirty

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seconds left, So I'll let you expand on that just

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a little bit more if you would go ahead.

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Sure.

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Well, like I said before, the role of registered dietitian

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nutritions is often under recognized. So by launching this campaign

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a seated every table, we're focusing on the vital role.

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I'm making sure people understand the value and the vital

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role that working that registered dietitians can play in helping

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you meet your health goals in a very personalized way

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that will long lasting.

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Not here today, gone tomorrow.

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So again, visit etright dot org to find out more

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work with a registered dietician nutritionists near you.

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Dan brand Stetter, thank you so much. Appreciate you stay healthy.

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Thank you Bill.

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Hey, welcome back, Bill Martinez here with the doctor Bonner Cohen,

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senior policy analyst with a committee on a constructive tomorrow. Hey, Bonner,

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how are we doing?

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Are we doing fine? Bill? Hope you are doing well too.

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Well.

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It's a happy new year. Things are looking kind of

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hunky dory. They're moving quite rapidly on Trump time, as

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they say, which is exploding heads, especially on the left,

1819
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you know, quite dramatically. But if nothing else, it's it's

1820
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entertaining to watch, no doubt about it. Hey, speaking of

1821
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exploding heads, let's talk about Greenland. I mean, initially, the

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way it came up, people were wondering was Trump really

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serious about this? But when you really started to looking

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looking at national security and what it could mean, I

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01:40:11.399 --> 01:40:15.000
think for the international community, because you know, a strong

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America makes for a strong, you know, a strong world.

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You know, we're already seeing that on display in the

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first year of Donald Trump's administration, and it looks like

1829
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this is something you know, as some in the administration

1830
01:40:33.119 --> 01:40:36.479
have declared that, you know what Donald Trump wants, he gets,

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and he presented quite a compelling argument before the World

1832
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Economic Forum there at at Davos and explaining why this

1833
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is important to America, important to Greenland, and important to

1834
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the European nations.

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Right. Yeah, Trump is never lacking and bluster and bum bass,

1836
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because that's just who he is how he operates. However,

1837
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on Greenland, from the very outset, he was deadly serious

1838
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the status quo on Greenland, which is a territory of Denmark.

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Denmark as a country slightly larger than the state of Maryland,

1840
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and it is in no way, shape or form capable

1841
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of defending Greenland from either Chinese or Russian interference, much

1842
01:41:27.560 --> 01:41:32.680
less coordinated Chinese Russian interference. Only the United States can

1843
01:41:32.720 --> 01:41:37.439
do that. Now, Denmark is a member of NATO, but

1844
01:41:37.560 --> 01:41:41.720
it's a very small member of NATO. The argument has

1845
01:41:41.760 --> 01:41:45.720
been made, given how Trump has beat the drums on this,

1846
01:41:46.239 --> 01:41:51.920
that Trump is undermining NATO by saying that Greenland must

1847
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come under Well, he uses the word American ownership that

1848
01:41:56.119 --> 01:42:01.479
might be modified to American control. It's it's the it's

1849
01:42:01.520 --> 01:42:05.520
the art of the deal. However, I would argue that

1850
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what he's proposing to do will actually strengthen NATO because

1851
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Greenland is an achilles heel. It sits up in a strategic, geostrategic,

1852
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very important part of the world, namely on the Arctic,

1853
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where Russia has an enormous presence simply owing to its geography,

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01:42:26.520 --> 01:42:31.880
and China has declared itself a Subarctic power. Well, there's

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no such there's no such thing. The northernmost border of

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01:42:35.720 --> 01:42:39.880
China is hundreds of miles from the Arctic Circle. But

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what that does tell you is that the Chinese are

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very interested in the possibilities there. And one look in

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the NAP tells you why we have ballistic dismissial missile

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defense systems there. We also have not with they go

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back decades in decades, but you now have hypersonic missiles

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that travel at enormous speeds. That's in addition to ever

1863
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more sophisticated drones that can be launched really from anywhere.

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We know that the Russians and the Chinese are vitally

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interested in Greenland because quite frankly, they have said not

1866
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only said as much, they are also actively scouting the

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place out They see what Trump sees the island's geopolitical situation.

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It's actually it's a it's a Danish possession, but it's

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in the Western hemisphere. And actually Greenland is closer to

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New York City than it is to Copenhagen, and the

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United States is the only non Chinese, non Russian country

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in the world that can possibly defend Greenland exact exactly,

1873
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and nobody else can do it, and even raised commitments

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on the part of other NATO allies will never rise

1875
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to the level necessary to keep Russia and China out

1876
01:44:14.920 --> 01:44:18.880
of Greenland. And they must be kept out of Greenland, period,

1877
01:44:19.159 --> 01:44:22.920
end of story. So I think Trump is ultimately doing

1878
01:44:23.119 --> 01:44:26.319
the right thing. Now. He ruffles feathers, but he ruffles

1879
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feathers everywhere because that's part of the way the man operates,

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and he has infuriated people. But ultimately what he's trying

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to do is very much in the interest of the

1882
01:44:39.399 --> 01:44:42.520
United States, and it is very much in the interest

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of NATO. If he continues to do what was done

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under Biden, Obama, Bush Clinton, going back as far as

1885
01:44:50.439 --> 01:44:54.880
you care to go back, in the geostrategic situation that

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he is facing day, if he does nothing and keeps

1887
01:44:58.119 --> 01:45:01.199
with the status quote, that status cue will change. It

1888
01:45:01.279 --> 01:45:05.159
will change because the Chinese and the Russians are probably

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in that order, because the Chinese have so many more means,

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01:45:10.399 --> 01:45:13.560
financial and what have you at their disposal than Yeah.

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01:45:13.439 --> 01:45:16.760
But Russia's been building out their fortresses there in the Arctic,

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have they not?

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01:45:17.800 --> 01:45:20.359
Oh? Oh, have they not? Because they're right next door.

1894
01:45:21.119 --> 01:45:24.159
The best way to check out the Arctic is not

1895
01:45:24.199 --> 01:45:26.640
to look at the globe the way we traditionally do,

1896
01:45:27.119 --> 01:45:29.079
but go up to the top of the globe and

1897
01:45:29.119 --> 01:45:34.159
look down and usually who Alaska's over here, Canada is

1898
01:45:34.239 --> 01:45:38.439
over here, Here's Greenland, and look at Russia. It's eleven

1899
01:45:38.560 --> 01:45:42.000
time zone, so it wraps all the way around the Arctic.

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01:45:42.359 --> 01:45:45.560
So of course the Russians have interest there, and they

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have every intention even with the diminished financial responsible resources

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01:45:52.399 --> 01:45:56.920
they have at their disposal. They have icebreakers, they have

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the kinds of things that enable them to do shall

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01:46:00.800 --> 01:46:08.439
we see certain military strategic security rate related activities there.

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Well, they've out they've outpaced America when it comes to

1906
01:46:11.159 --> 01:46:14.439
ice breakers. In fact, their ice breakers are.

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01:46:14.439 --> 01:46:18.439
Nuclear and we are way behind in that. And that's

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one of the many areas in which the United States

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needs needs to catch up, because if we are going

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to assume the responsibility for defending Greenland, and I think

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we are Trump's kno going to back down on this.

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It's just a matter of what form this takes. We

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don't want to make this the fifty first state in

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the Union. There are all sorts of very compelling reasons

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for not doing that. It's going to become a kind

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of US territory. I think money will change hands between

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the United States and Denmark on this. And while we're

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at Greenland has loads of resources. There's oil, and they're

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rare earths and other critical minerals.

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But Denmark doesn't have the capacity to be able to

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drill down all right, So America is really the prime country,

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I mean, the friendly country. They could work with them

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and then look for Greenlanders what they could get. I

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mean what Alaska gets a dividend every year because they

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share in the resources, right, And I'm sure Donald Trump

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in America would do the same thing for the Greenlanders.

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They're not that many of them, only around fifty seven thousand,

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and this would be a huge boost in the incomes

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of the Greenlanders for this, So a deal can be

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cooked up that will make it very attractive to them,

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provided of course that in coming up with whatever arrangement

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Trump eventually decides on. We exempt the natural resources in

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Greenland from NEPA. That's the National Environmental Policy Act. Because

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even though the Trump administration has carried out some reforms there,

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NEPA is another word for red tape, because if you

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have to get one permit after the other, after the other,

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after the art, you have environmental groups that file lawsuits.

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NEPA has to be exempted. The Greenland acquisition, of whatever

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form it takes, it has to be exempt from NEPA.

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Otherwise we'll never get to the natural resources in which

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Greenland is so rich. So that has to be part

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of the deal, part of the art of the deal

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that Trump is cutting and I think ultimately will cut.

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Right exactly a couple of minutes left here, Bonner and

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I did want to address, you know, what's going on

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in Virginia. You and I we've discussed this over the years.

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In this particular case. Now you've got an activist judge,

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what else you know, restarting the Virginia Win project while

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ignoring military objections.

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Right, that's right, And by the way, he did so

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with no jurisdiction whatsoever. This is a federal judge, a

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Biden administration appointee. He's a federal district judge. Win Trump

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ordered a pause in the construction of five offshore wind

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facilities stretching from Massachusetts to Virginia. That comes under what

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the federal government is doing with the developer, in other words,

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the contractor that is to be settled if there is

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a dispute, and there is one in the US Court

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of Claims, a federal district judge has absolutely no a

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jurisdiction there whatsoever. Stop and think about it. Of all

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places to put an offshore wind fall, you put this

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offshore about twenty twenty five miles offshore from the largest

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naval facility the United States has, which by the way,

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is also the largest military facility the United States has.

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US Navy is very concerned about its ability to protect

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that facility from forces which do not wish us well.

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If you have hundreds of wind turbines nearby going seven

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hundred eight hundred feet into the air with spinning rotors,

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you have something that can interfere with radar, with interfere

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with our ability to intercept everything. Conventional missiles, hypersonic missiles, drones,

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you name it. There is no argument whatsoever to be

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made to the effect that well, no, they won't interfere,

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we can do it. Oh yes they will. The Navy,

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the people within the Pentagon who knows that they went

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ahead with it anyway because the developers, an eight hundred

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pound gorilla in Virginia thought he could get away with it.

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But believe me, we haven't heard the last about that

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offshow win Farm, because, as I said, the judge's decision

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is going to be set aside anyway.

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Right exactly, And you'll keep us up to date on that.

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We're going to have to leave it there for now.

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Doctor Bonner Cohen, the senior policy analyst, a Committee for

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a Constructive Tomorrow. The website that they can check out

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to stay in the flow of the no, as we

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say Bonner.

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Is c fact dot RG.

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Check us out c fact dot org. Thank you Bonner,

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Take care, Thank you Bill.

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