Bill Martinez Live
Sept. 21, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 09 21 26

The Bill Martinez Show 09 21 26
The Bill Martinez Show 09 21 26
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live a program about current events our culture our values

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our politics and our future and now bill martinez.

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Hey, good morning.

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Welcome.

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Six minutes after the top of the hour, Bill Martinez here,

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along with Mike Pallance from Americans for Tax Reform. He

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is the tax policy director there. Hey, good morning, Michael.

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How are you?

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Good morning, Bill.

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Good to be with you. Doing well.

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Hey, good to catch up with you. Let's talk the

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wealth tax. I mean, this just keeps cycling back. You

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can tell when particularly the Democrats get desperate. You know,

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they got to go after money. That's what they do.

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It's in their DNA. And the American people should see

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this is that Look, right now, just like it started, what,

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back in 1913, it starts with the wealthy, and then

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it ends up falling on everybody. So, you know, the

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American taxpayer should be forewarned. We've seen this Trojan horse before,

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have we not?

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Exactly.

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What taxes are, taxes are tapeworms. They only grow in

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one direction. You can look at the payroll tax, which

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started at only 1%, now at 12.4%. The income tax,

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we were told, was going to be on millionaires and billionaires.

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And we still have ridiculous things like the phone tax

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that we were told was going to pay for World

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War I still in place. So this is what happens.

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They apply these taxes. They say they're only going to

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apply it on the rich. They're only going to apply

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it in emergencies. And they grow and stick around and

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they apply it for everyone. It's how Democrats take money

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from those who make it and redistribute it to their voters.

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They are the party of government. It's what Democrats do,

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what we're seeing now. the emergence of these wealth taxes,

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which we should be clear, this is the creation of

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a federal, a new federal property tax. This is a

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tax on the things you have, not the income you make.

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They say it's only going to apply to millionaires and billionaires,

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as we just said. In time, the authors of the study,

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Gabriel Zuckman, Thomas Piketty, these are French economists, which is

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kind of like saying jumbo shrimp, but French economists are

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a thing apparently. That's where this is coming from. You're

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seeing these Democrat socialist candidates. It's in their agenda. They're

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all running on it. You have Ron Wyden, the lead

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tax writer for Democrats in the Senate, has introduced a

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wealth tax. This is what's coming down the pike if

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Democrats take Congress next year.

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Yeah, we need to follow French economists, don't we? I mean,

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they have such an incredible track record, right?

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You've got that ridiculous statement from Macron the other year

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where he said, you know, America is so good at innovating.

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What the French are really good at is regulating. The

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French should regulate.

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For the world.

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As if he doesn't see how those two things, why

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the French are bad at creating new things while having

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a heavy hand in regulation are linked. That's what we

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need to stay away from. We need to keep America

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not like Europe.

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Well, interesting right now that you have the convergence of

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this wealth tax idea. Again, the personality of the Democratic

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Party is way out of the closet and exposed. And

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then with J.D. Vance and all that he's doing as

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the fraud czar and exposing billions upon billions. I mean,

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Elon Musk told us, what, 18 months ago that there's

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at least a trillion dollars in fraud and waste. And

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even with the billions of dollars that J.D. Vance is exposing,

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I mean, it's just way at the tip of the iceberg,

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is it not?

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Of course.

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And we've seen how the Democratic Party is directly linked

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to this fraud. I think Minnesota continues to be the

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great example of this.

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Yeah.

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Back to where we have leering centers instead of learning

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centers somehow earning federal taxpayer dollars. And then, of course,

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to see some of that money funneling its way back

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into Democratic offers with contributions to Democrats. They willingly turn

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a blind eye towards it because they know they benefit

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from it. It both benefits their constituencies and then encases

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the party directly. When you look at our programs like Medicaid,

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we're talking about tens of billions of dollars in improper

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payments per year. Republicans and President Trump's one big beautiful bill.

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have already taken a lead in tightening up on some

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of this combating fraud. I think you, for that reason,

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have seen Democrats talk about this less because the public's

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become more aware of the fraud. But that's happening in Minnesota.

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Just imagine what's happening in states like New York and California.

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Oh, my gosh.

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They haven't fully uncovered this yet.

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Right, exactly. And, you know, and every day and every week,

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it seems like there's more stuff being exposed here. It's

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impossible to deny that. And as you say, it is

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really happening more in blue states. There's incidences in red

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states as well. But, you know, I think they're all

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starting to get the memo because, you know, Todd Blanch

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and the team are coming in saying enough of this stuff.

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You know, we're going to come after it. Meanwhile, the

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Democrats are going crazy. Speaking of the big, beautiful bill.

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They see all that America has received with no tax

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on tip, no tax on Social Security, all the benefits.

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I mean, the average household income now, Mike, you saw

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that number has increased dramatically. The Democrats are going nuts

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because they believe in their heart of hearts. American citizens

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either don't deserve it or they don't know what to

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do with it. So that's why we need them to

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take our money and tell us what to do with it.

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And meanwhile, they've successfully managed to increase our debt to

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$ 40 trillion. So, oh, yeah, let's give them more of

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the same, right?

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And I think on the back of the Trump tax

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cuts that we talked about this last time, Bill, I

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think we're starting to see signs of the economy ready

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to take off. The GDP numbers coming out of the Fed,

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Atlanta Fed, for the third quarter are looking so strong

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right now. Their forecast right now is at 5.1%. That

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seems extraordinarily high, but even the average they're showing is

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about 2.5% growth, a significant increase from last quarter. I

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think that's driven by all the investment, key provisions in

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the Trump tax cuts driving that. We're seeing likely expense

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and cost recovery. These are what's going to boost wages

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for workers. That's what we need to get back to

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talking about is how these Trump tax cuts put more

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money in your pocket by letting you keep more of

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your own money and because businesses can pay workers more

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and have to compete over those workers leading to higher wages.

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That's what's really going to deliver for families is seeing

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those real wages increase. And again, three and a half

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years under the Biden administration, the inflation that they drove

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and caused from overspending, three and a half years, people

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did not see their real incomes increase because of inflation.

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Now they're back up on the rise. Now we're seeing

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the economy start to take off.

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And Donald Trump's throwing out a lifeline, whether it's the

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Trump accounts for young kids or even, you know, which drove,

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I know it drove the Democrats nuts. I mean, heads

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were exploding when he said, hey, look it, if we

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sweep in the midterms, I'm going to give you all $ 5, 000. And,

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you know, and you just sit there and go, whoa, OK,

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that's pretty good. I mean, the Democrats are so funny.

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They've been buying votes like crazy. And now they're accusing

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Trump of buying votes by offering, you know, a $ 5, 000

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incentive if they, you know, keep Republicans in control. so

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that the rest of his, you know, the rest of

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his plans and objectives can be realized. I mean, if

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the Democrats come in, you know, we might as well

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do COVID all over again and just bring everything to

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a halt, right?

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I think if you take Trump accounts, it's such a

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great contrast with Republicans and Democrats. Look at what a

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crazy state like California is doing right now, where Gavin

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Newsom has said, actually, you know, I think be driven

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by the fact that they're.

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Called Trump accounts.

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Yes.

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How petty this is, but they're going to treat contributions...

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from employers to their employees' children's Trump accounts as taxable

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income to their workers. You have to pay taxes on

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any contribution your employer makes to your kid's Trump account.

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That is insane and petty and small. We should not

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be doing that, of course. And then you take Republicans

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coming up with new ways for you to save and invest,

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be part of the economy. where I think there's going

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to be a generational change in the way we consume

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economic news. I think every time we're opening up a

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new savings account, you're probably converting a Republican voter. And

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then to have Democrats pushing this wealth tax to come

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after your life savings, come after all of your assets

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and your property, just insane to think that that's what

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they're campaigning on. And that's the direction we're seeing at

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the state level, California, New York, Washington, Oregon, Democrats in

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the Senate, And these DSA candidates on the campaign trail,

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Democrats are united in this march for the creation of

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a new federal property tax.

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Well, and a new government, you know, with the DSA

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taking control of the Democratic Party. Oh, yes, by the way, right?

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Well, I think what's so scary is you put these

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two things together. A wealth tax is by nature, it's

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a direct tax on capital. This is unconstitutional.

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Right.

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What Democrats are saying at the same time they're going

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to do is stack the Supreme Court And that's how

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they're going to pass this, because they're going to rush

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this through. They're going to break the Supreme Court in

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order to put forward this confiscatory tax. It's just terrifying

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what they're in lockstep doing.

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Yeah, exactly.

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A new study finds a major increase in STEM learning

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in after-school programs, but gaps remain. Today, 92% of parents

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with children in after-school say STEM is available, up from

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69% a decade ago. That's 6.4 million kids now getting

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STEM in after-school. Emma Binet, Overdeck Family Foundation.

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This study underscores the remarkable work out-of-school time programs do

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to help students discover the joy in learning while preparing

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them to succeed now and into the future.

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The study finds rural and low-income students are less likely

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to get frequent STEM opportunities, with rural programs also offering

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fewer opportunities in computer science and technology. Jody Grant, Executive

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Director of the After-School Alliance.

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STEM literacy is no longer optional. It's the foundation of

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nearly every aspect of our economy and our world.

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The next step is clear. Invest more in after-school programs

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We're talking with Mike Pallitz, ATR's Tax Policy Director. And Mike,

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as you say, I mean, there's such a clear contrast.

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I mean, you know, here we are. Donald Trump is saying, look,

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this is what's in the pipeline. We've got all this investment, what,

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over $ 20 trillion of international investment coming in. You know,

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what's going on with AI? And I know that Barack

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Obama and the Democrats, you know, they want to turn

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this into the big Magilla. And, you know, here's the

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scary ghost, you know, that's coming out is AI, like

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as if, you know, our experts can't figure out. how

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to make this work. And they've got a bad track record,

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whether it's Y2K, whether it's the green energy scam thing

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that we've endured, all that we went through with PPP

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and the pandemic and all this. The Democrats have consistently

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been on the wrong side. If they get control, which

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they want, they will turn this over to a world body.

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This will end up being controlled by the United Nations

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if you're ready for that. Great.

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I think, of course, with something like data centers, the

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public has concerns. Innovation happens fast in America. We have

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to get people comfortable with what data centers and AI

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technology is bringing and the changes it's going to make.

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But if you look at what Democrats are doing on

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the campaign trail against data centers right now, it is

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the exact same playbook as where they were on fracking.

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Right, exactly.

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They were on nuclear power. You can sit back and

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ask yourself, have Democrats ever been on the right side

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of these questions?

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That's my point. Have they got anything right?

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I was watching a clip of Mark Ruffalo, the actor,

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in 2010 in upstate New York fighting for the fracking ban.

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And it is terrifying how similar it is to the

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same playbook on data centers where he's got a mason

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jar of allegedly dirty water. He's warning about farmers. He's

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calling for the temporary moratorium just so we know what's

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going on. And then what ends up happening? New York

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State passes this moratorium. They lose out on the 300,000

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jobs that Pennsylvania gained because of this. And you had

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the situation where Pennsylvania literally drank New York's milkshake. That's

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the same thing that's here. The opportunity, the job creation.

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and what this means to the American economy moving forward.

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Democrats are all on the other side of this, all

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trying to kill this off.

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Well, look what we did with nuclear energy, another case

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in point. And here they are, they're all concerned that

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China's going to get a leg up and all this,

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and it's like, hey, look it, you already got history here.

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China says, thank you very much for stalling out and

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stepping away from nuclear, and look what they're doing.

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Exactly right.

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There's no one who, I think the Chinese are sitting

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back and laughing at this. They're full speed ahead.

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And so I don't think there's anyone benefiting more from

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us potentially hitting the brakes here on innovation. But I

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think at the end of the day, I think we'll

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end up.

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Getting this right.

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I think the Congress right now is doing some things

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to address people's concerns about rising energy bills. I think

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that's the most important thing we can get the public

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comfortable with, is the idea that data centers are actually

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across the country and in localities.

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What we're seeing is.

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They're leading to lower property taxes and lower energy bills

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as they're bringing new production online.

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Well, how far flung is it when Trump says, Look,

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once the Iran conflict is over with, the gas prices

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are going to come down and that we're going to

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get a lot of relief, whether it's regular fuel or

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diesel fuel. Right now, there's no question what's happening in

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the Middle East is affecting those costs. But, I mean,

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in a lot of ways, I can say this. With

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confidence based on the past, if the Democrats were in

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charge right now, gas prices would be through the pick

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and roof. I mean, the fact that they're there where

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they are has been mitigated in large part because of

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the strategy and, you know, the tactics that Trump has used.

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to protect oil prices to a degree. And meanwhile, we're

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moving full speed ahead with our relationships with, you know,

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Venezuela and what he's been able to do there, the

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replenishment of the strategic oil preserve that, gasoline reserve that Biden,

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oh yeah, by the way, in order to juice the midterms,

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he opens up the coffers, right? Empties out the strategic

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oil reserves to benefit Democrats. You know, so Democrats are just,

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I mean, they're so hypocritical. I just don't want to

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hear from them anymore.

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The hypocrisy is on full display, where you've got, since

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the beginning of the Obama years, Democrats pushing a carbon tax,

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deliberately trying to make oil prices more expensive, and home

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heating prices more expensive, opposing fracking. You would think that

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they would sit back and talk about how these high

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gas prices have been great for the environment. Of course,

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they're not doing it. They're just trying to grab the

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current political moment. But I think, to your point, the

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Trump administration's made some great decisions. Another one I would

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add to that would be Jones Act relief and the

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waiver that they provided, allowing it So it's easier to

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transport port-to-port oil to keep pressure on prices coming down,

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the new exploration and development they're allowing to happen. And

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I think one of the remarkable things we've seen is

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that natural gas prices have actually stayed relatively flat or

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dropped in the United States compared to the rest of

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the world. That is, during this conflict, that is a

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historic and monumental sign of how powerful the American industry

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is and how dominant we are now. One thing we

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should avoid doing that's been discussed, I believe, Senator Leader

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Thune floated this and the governor of Louisiana, too. There

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was some discussion about doing an export ban on diesel.

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This is something we should be very careful to avoid.

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Republicans rightly oppose any effort from the Biden administration to

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have a ban on exports of crude oil. If you

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do that, that is a signal to stop domestic production.

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It'll only end up raising prices, not on just diesel.

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but on gas prices overall. We got to make sure

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we avoid that. It's a bad idea that's been floated

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and Trump should continue his opposition towards.

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Why can't Thune do the math on this? I mean,

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it just seems so obvious. What am I missing?

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Yeah, drill, baby, drill. We are the lead exporter of diesel.

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We want to make sure we maintain And so much

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of the effort we've seen in the Trump administration on reindustrializing,

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so our manufacturers can increase our exports. We don't want

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to damage the export lead we have in the oil

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and gas industry. That would be very damaging towards American

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energy dominance.

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What about the situation in Canada? What do you make

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of this?

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Yeah, and I think most likely what we have going

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on right now is I think you have the Canadians

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trying to leverage the pre-election situation to get the most

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they can out of these trade deals. It's always hard

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to know what's going on behind closed doors. But I

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think what you've seen is the Trump administration has started

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to actually provide some tariff relief ahead of the election

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on things like coffee on bananas, groceries, things that I

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think are providing direct relief for consumers. I've confidence the

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Trump administration will strike a deal here soon.

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Right.

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And meanwhile, I mean, the Canadians, this is no big surprise.

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I mean, they did back during the Trudeau's senior and

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junior term. you know, their alliance with China. So they've

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been in bed with China for a long time. And,

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you know, and they look at China's governance being superior

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to America's. So, you know, again, this isn't a surprise.

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And some of this stuff seems petty. And, you know,

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the Canadian prime minister is hurting Canadians as well in

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all this, right?

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Yeah, exactly right. And then it's frustrating, too, because, you know,

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I think if they're playing their own political games, you know,

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I think someone who's directly benefiting from this would be

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El Saeed, the DSA.

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Candidate in Michigan.

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So I think there's an element of the Canadians trying

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to play games and pressure the administration while they know

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we have a tough midterm coming up.

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Well, it's interesting because El Saeed, I'm still surprised that

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he's ahead in the polls. I mean, basically statistically tied

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with Rogers there, but I'm just surprised. I don't know

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if there just hasn't been enough advertising, you know, that

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Republicans have been keeping their powder dry for a moment,

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and maybe they're going to do a blast in the

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last four or five weeks. Trump's opening up the coffers.

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I've heard anywhere from $ 400 to $ 800 million that he's

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going to be writing checks and getting it out there

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to get these guys across the line, right?

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Yeah, you've seen the MAGA Inc. PAC, which is the

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president's PAC, where I believe his former key advisors, Chris

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LaCivita and James Blair, who did the Trump campaign, they're

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starting to unleash the coffers right now. I think they're

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kind of flooding the airways with their cash. And that's

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good to see the cavalry coming in. But it is

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hard to see what El-Sayed, I mean, you had this

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interview last night, actually, I don't think has fully been

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made public yet, but parts of it released with Hassan Piker,

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who's been his key surrogate on the campaign, you know,

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saying that America, pound for pound, worse terrorist than Al-Qaeda.

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When you see someone like that, and you see the

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candidate hugging that person, refusing to distance himself from it,

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actively campaigning with him, it's hard to see that polling.

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And it.

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Would, would vote to put someone like that in the Senate.

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I'm confident at the end of the day, they'll make

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the right decision.

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See, they don't understand that, you know, with the Muslims,

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they believe in Takiyah, that it's okay to lie. See, Americans,

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our ethos is, is that, you know, you don't lie. You,

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you maintain your trust with the people. Muslims could care less.

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And the means to the end, that's what justifies their deception. And,

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you know, and I, and I heard the conversation between

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Piker and, and, and El-Said was that, hey, look, do

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whatever you have to do to get elected. We'll figure

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out what happens. We'll figure it out on the other side.

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Kind of like the same thing that Barack Obama and

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the Reverend Jeremiah Wright had, right?

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Well, I think the people that these candidates choose to

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surround themselves with are a fairly good indication of who

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it is that they're politically trying to appeal towards. So

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it's concerning whether he means it or not. It's concerning

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that he thinks Hassan Piker is is a big part

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of his coalition and necessary to winning the Senate, because

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it means that that's who he's going to be representing

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when he's in the Senate. The fact that he thinks

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someone who's essentially saying we deserve 9-11, we're worse than Al-Qaeda,

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that that's a huge part of the Democrat Party that

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he can't win without.

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That should be alarming.

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I think it shows that these candidates are too dangerous

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to put in office.

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Well, we got to leave it there. He's ATR's tax

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policy director, Mike Pallitz. Thank you, Mike. Take care.

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Hey, we're back with you. Glad you could join us.

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Bill Martinez here with Dr. John Zimerick, the author of

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No Second Amendment, No First.

556
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Hey, Mr.

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John, how we doing? Hey, Bill.

558
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Doing pretty well.

559
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Well, good, good.

560
00:28:48.089 --> 00:28:53.349
Well, we're heading towards the midterm madness. Everybody hits full throttle.

561
00:28:53.910 --> 00:28:57.390
And you got to know, I mean, what was said before,

562
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you know, the Democrats, it's so funny because I think

563
00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:02.279
there was, I can't remember the Republican that did it,

564
00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:05.480
made a reference to when you get out of the primaries,

565
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:09.779
then you etch a sketch. And the Democrats have, you know,

566
00:29:09.819 --> 00:29:14.339
they've become artistes in etch a sketch. You know, they'll

567
00:29:14.380 --> 00:29:16.160
say one thing in the primary, when it comes to

568
00:29:16.180 --> 00:29:18.480
the general, then all of a sudden it's like, who

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are you voting for? I mean, that's not the same

570
00:29:20.420 --> 00:29:23.539
person that was just politicking for the last three, four months, right?

571
00:29:23.980 --> 00:29:27.119
It just came out that James Tallarico, who got the

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00:29:27.140 --> 00:29:31.690
Democrat nominee for Senate in Texas, he's running around eating

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barbecue and walking back his previous statements that there are

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six biological genders, that God is non-binary, right? But some

575
00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:47.160
insider recorded at his home church, the pastor, talking about, oh, yeah,

576
00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:49.440
he's just doing that for the election. He's just trying

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00:29:49.460 --> 00:29:52.079
to win the election. We know he's just as radical

578
00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:54.099
as we are, and he's going to vote that way

579
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once he makes it into the Senate. So admitting he's lying.

580
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Right.

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And she approves of it, and she's his pastor. That's

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a great church. The theology of that church is terrific.

583
00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:08.109
You're allowed to lie to people about your political beliefs

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so you can steal their votes.

585
00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:14.079
Well, of course. I mean, that's the same thing in Michigan, right?

586
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And that here you've got this radical that has been

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leading the way and has gotten Abdul, you know, the vote.

588
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And he's pretty much just said, hey, I don't care

589
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if he distanced himself from me. It's just it's important

590
00:30:30.930 --> 00:30:35.789
that he get elected. Just like Obama with Jeremiah. Jeremiah, right.

591
00:30:35.829 --> 00:30:36.289
Exactly.

592
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Right.

593
00:30:37.009 --> 00:30:41.069
Exactly. So it's the same thing. And it's just, you know, See,

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this is the problem we have with our government and

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why they violate the first principle of any relationship, and

596
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that has to do with trust. You violate trust, forget it.

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And what's happened is they've conditioned America to become so

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cynical that they're willing to accept this time and time again.

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And look what it gets us. It gets us $ 40

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00:31:01.579 --> 00:31:05.640
trillion in debt and all these policies that are upside down.

601
00:31:05.720 --> 00:31:08.990
They don't make sense whatsoever. They're anti-American policies. And they're

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pro-World Economic Forum. That's really what it comes down to, John,

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in my opinion.

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00:31:15.099 --> 00:31:20.880
It's interesting, the Michigan race, because you've got a radical

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Muslim who supports Sharia law running with the support of

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a whole bunch of weird sex degenerates and radical socialists.

607
00:31:33.769 --> 00:31:37.630
Muslims are using the Democrats as useful idiots to gain

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power all across America, but it's interesting. There's a principle

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of Islamic theology called Takiyah, where it's permissible and indeed

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obligatory to lie to non-believers in order to advance the

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00:31:51.740 --> 00:31:58.359
power of Islam. Islam is less a religion with political implications.

612
00:31:58.500 --> 00:32:02.809
It's more like a totalitarian political movement that has a

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00:32:02.849 --> 00:32:06.930
chapel out back. Islam from the beginning has been about

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00:32:07.670 --> 00:32:13.049
getting political power, getting wealth, taking women by force from

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00:32:13.069 --> 00:32:15.410
their husbands and making them part of your harem. The

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00:32:15.450 --> 00:32:19.529
Muslim slave trade existed into the 19th century, actually still

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00:32:19.569 --> 00:32:25.029
exists in parts of Africa. To see the Democrats and

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00:32:25.049 --> 00:32:28.769
the Muslims each think they're fooling the other. They each

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00:32:28.869 --> 00:32:30.750
think the other is the useful idiot.

620
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Yeah.

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00:32:32.289 --> 00:32:35.589
You know, like somehow they think they're going to be

622
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the last man standing. Chuck Schumer, I'm saying. And look

623
00:32:38.460 --> 00:32:40.660
what happened. I mean, perfect case in point. Just look

624
00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:43.160
at what happened with with Minnesota.

625
00:32:44.980 --> 00:32:45.500
Yeah.

626
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:48.079
Let in 80,000 refugees and soon they're running the stake.

627
00:32:48.789 --> 00:32:52.329
The entire state. Raping the state. Right.

628
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:53.339
Exactly.

629
00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:56.180
And look what happens, you know, with crime and law

630
00:32:56.200 --> 00:33:00.049
enforcement and all that situation. I mean, Ellison and, you know,

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00:33:00.190 --> 00:33:02.829
I mean, it is just an absolute fiasco. And the

632
00:33:02.869 --> 00:33:05.049
thing that's so upsetting, as you say, John, here we are,

633
00:33:05.049 --> 00:33:08.240
$ 40 trillion in debt, and we the people are supporting it.

634
00:33:08.289 --> 00:33:09.289
We're giving them money.

635
00:33:10.490 --> 00:33:13.170
But you're not allowed to complain about the fact that

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00:33:13.210 --> 00:33:16.220
your country is being colonized by foreigners. If you do,

637
00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:19.200
let's see what happens. Beau French, great guy who's running

638
00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:23.269
for railroad commissioner in Texas, which sounds like a silly,

639
00:33:23.650 --> 00:33:27.589
like a do nothing job, but in fact it controls

640
00:33:27.630 --> 00:33:31.390
the energy infrastructure of the state. It's incredibly important given

641
00:33:31.410 --> 00:33:34.230
how big oil and gas are in Texas. He's running

642
00:33:34.309 --> 00:33:38.630
and he tweeted a picture of University of Texas football

643
00:33:38.670 --> 00:33:42.089
fans at a game and they were all Indian. And

644
00:33:42.130 --> 00:33:45.269
he said, now we see the scope of the problem.

645
00:33:46.190 --> 00:33:50.799
In other words, Texas is being overwhelmed by immigration from

646
00:33:50.859 --> 00:33:56.440
third world countries, from Muslim countries, H-1B visas, taking away

647
00:33:56.500 --> 00:34:03.569
Texans' jobs, affirmative action. Texas schools, it's really hard for

648
00:34:04.029 --> 00:34:08.650
a white Texan whose family has been paying taxes for generations.

649
00:34:08.949 --> 00:34:11.260
It's really hard for them to get into the University

650
00:34:11.300 --> 00:34:14.760
of Texas because there is a stealth affirmative action program

651
00:34:15.219 --> 00:34:21.809
in Texas where the top 5% of Texas residents, not citizens,

652
00:34:22.550 --> 00:34:29.030
not legal residents, just residents, the top 5% in each

653
00:34:29.090 --> 00:34:33.110
school district gets it. Well, what that means is you

654
00:34:33.130 --> 00:34:37.469
get places like Irving that have become almost all Indian

655
00:34:37.610 --> 00:34:41.050
or almost all Muslim. And you get border towns like

656
00:34:41.070 --> 00:34:45.469
Brownsville where the schools aren't very good. It's not that

657
00:34:45.550 --> 00:34:49.159
hard to be in the top 5%. You're less qualified

658
00:34:49.219 --> 00:34:52.659
than the top 20% from Highland from say Highland park

659
00:34:52.699 --> 00:34:56.960
school district. So effectively they found a way to do

660
00:34:57.000 --> 00:35:01.059
affirmative action and it's virtually impossible for Texas taxpayers to

661
00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:03.159
get into the university of Texas. They have to end

662
00:35:03.199 --> 00:35:07.449
up going somewhere else. Beau French was highlighting this fact

663
00:35:07.610 --> 00:35:11.610
that Texans are being purposely displaced by business elites that

664
00:35:11.650 --> 00:35:15.960
want cheap labor. by Democrats who want cheap votes. Well,

665
00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:20.760
the backlash against him was ferocious. That rhino John Cornyn,

666
00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:23.579
who thank God will not be in the Senate anymore,

667
00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:31.190
has endorsed Beau French's left-wing Democrat opponent. And so has

668
00:35:31.289 --> 00:35:38.130
Karl Rove, that evil Machiavellian depraved genius who ruined the

669
00:35:38.190 --> 00:35:41.639
Republican Party through the 90s and 2000s. who gave us

670
00:35:41.739 --> 00:35:45.880
George W. Bush and the Iraq War and open borders

671
00:35:46.260 --> 00:35:49.059
and massive Muslim immigration after 9-11.

672
00:35:49.460 --> 00:35:50.000
Exactly.

673
00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:59.719
Karl Rove just endorsed a pro-trans for transfer children, open borders, anti-Israel,

674
00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:04.780
radical left-wing Democrat who's still wearing a COVID mask that

675
00:36:04.820 --> 00:36:08.400
says protect trans kids. This is so Karl Rove is

676
00:36:08.460 --> 00:36:12.630
endorsing him. What the rhinos are showing us, they hate

677
00:36:13.670 --> 00:36:18.610
ordinary Americans. They hate blue collar voters. They hate ordinary

678
00:36:18.809 --> 00:36:22.079
Texas patriots. They hate us enough to turn us over

679
00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:31.159
to self-styled Marxists and pro-Sharia Muslims. Everything Pat Buchanan said

680
00:36:31.199 --> 00:36:32.780
about the rhinos back in 1992 and 1996 has been

681
00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:38.920
proven true. The George Bush faction of the Republican Party

682
00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:43.360
would rather burn America down than let it be controlled

683
00:36:43.400 --> 00:36:48.900
by actual patriots. It's just appalling. Speaking of that, what

684
00:36:48.940 --> 00:36:51.619
about that Texas congresswoman, Salazar?

685
00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:53.360
No, she's Miami.

686
00:36:53.820 --> 00:36:55.179
Well, Miami, I'm sorry.

687
00:36:55.440 --> 00:36:55.579
Right.

688
00:36:55.599 --> 00:36:57.179
Miami, Florida.

689
00:36:57.219 --> 00:36:57.420
Right.

690
00:36:57.559 --> 00:36:57.840
Exactly.

691
00:36:57.860 --> 00:37:01.380
Maria Salazar, who is demanding amnesty for tens of millions

692
00:37:01.420 --> 00:37:03.659
of illegals and saying, if you don't do that, they

693
00:37:03.699 --> 00:37:06.820
can't live dignified lives. She she sponsors and called the

694
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Dignity Act.

695
00:37:08.260 --> 00:37:08.519
Right.

696
00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:09.400
Dignity.

697
00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:14.719
You know, there's dignity in being held accountable to obey

698
00:37:14.780 --> 00:37:16.239
the laws of the country.

699
00:37:16.860 --> 00:37:17.360
Exactly.

700
00:37:17.719 --> 00:37:21.530
She wants to treat them like rescue pets. Oh, look,

701
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:25.269
we found 10 kitties in the yard. Can we keep them, Daddy?

702
00:37:25.289 --> 00:37:25.369
Yeah.

703
00:37:26.610 --> 00:37:29.710
She's not treating them with dignity. Dignity would be deportation

704
00:37:29.750 --> 00:37:32.210
to their home countries and a nice little check as

705
00:37:32.289 --> 00:37:34.389
a bonus, a little pat on the back. Lots of

706
00:37:34.429 --> 00:37:35.190
luck back home.

707
00:37:35.929 --> 00:37:40.730
Well, dignity is what immigrants who came here legally and

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00:37:40.949 --> 00:37:44.829
they came here and assimilated and added to the tapestry

709
00:37:44.869 --> 00:37:49.380
of this great American idea. That is dignity, not giving

710
00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:54.989
people a way to escape accountability. Because what does that

711
00:37:55.070 --> 00:37:57.329
set them up down the road, John? I mean, this

712
00:37:57.389 --> 00:38:00.369
is all then this becomes part of their legacy and

713
00:38:00.429 --> 00:38:03.389
part of their, you know, family DNA that it's OK

714
00:38:03.409 --> 00:38:06.000
to cheat because, you know, you're going to have people

715
00:38:06.059 --> 00:38:10.800
like Maria Salazar and all these sympathetic, you know, clients.

716
00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:14.869
pearl clutchers that are just going to, you know, they're

717
00:38:14.909 --> 00:38:17.309
really not doing them any favors whatsoever. We got to

718
00:38:17.349 --> 00:38:19.460
go to quick break. We've got more from Dr. John

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Hey, welcome back. As promised, Bill Martin is here. We're

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talking with Dr. John Zimerick. Well, John, yeah, there's just

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too many others like Maria Salazar. In fact, when I

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first heard her, because I'm here in Florida, when I

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first heard her say the Dignity Act, as soon as

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she said the Dignity Act, I knew that was trouble.

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Yeah, I wonder if it's a stupid acronym. They love

796
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stupid acronyms. I think the Patriot Act was an acronym.

797
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And they're always so cringeworthy. But when they choose these

798
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high-flown expressions, it's an attempt to tap into a perverse

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form of Christianity.

800
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Right.

801
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Sort of a mutation of Christian compassion. I've said before,

802
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white guilt is the new gospel of Antichrist. It is

803
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a new false religion that people who view Christianity cynically

804
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as a political weapon or tool, they try to replace

805
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the gospel where Jesus died for our sins with a

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new gospel where your country, your race, your ethnic group,

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You focus not on your own sins, but the sins

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of your ancestors and other people's ancestors. And you punish

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your descendants. And God doesn't even come into it. But

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you feel redeemed. You're redeeming yourself from the sins of

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other people using scapegoats, namely your own people, the population

812
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of your country. You're punishing them. You're destroying their future.

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You're doing like in Britain, flooding the country with Pakistanis

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who form rape gangs. or in Germany where they brought

815
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in all the Syrian refugees, there was immediately a rape epidemic.

816
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These innocent women are the ones bleeding for the supposed

817
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sins of your ancestors. It's a demonic hijacking of Christianity.

818
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It almost turns Christianity on its head. Instead of focusing

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on your own moral failings and going to God for

820
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healing and restoration, you're looking at other people's moral failings

821
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condemning them feeling good about yourself and punishing someone else

822
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yeah there you go you.

823
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Got that two by four in your eye that jesus

824
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talked about here you're worried about your brother splinters right

825
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and you and you're walking around with a two by

826
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four walking into walls here.

827
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But p but i tell you what it feels real

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good at the time you get you get to feel

829
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better than your ancestors better than your neighbors those trump

830
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voters over there those redneck bigoted xenophobes those blue-collar rubes,

831
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the people of Walmart. You get to feel better than

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your ancestors and your neighbors, and you don't have to

833
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care about your progeny or your descendants. I mean, it's

834
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a really good deal. I mean, if you're selling your soul,

835
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you're getting some coin for it, though.

836
00:45:27.980 --> 00:45:30.849
Yeah, but it's so delusional. I mean, this is the deal.

837
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I used to say this all the time during the

838
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Obama administration years, because it was life by theory. You know,

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we're going to throw out all the empirical evidence and

840
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the data and stuff like that, because the thing that

841
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is hysterical is people will look and make fun of

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the people at Walmart. And guess what? Most of those

843
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people at Walmart are pretty happy campers. They're enjoying life.

844
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They could care less about what those highbrows think about them.

845
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In fact, they think they're all silly driving around in

846
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their overpriced cars that they've mortgaged their mortgage to the hilt.

847
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and all to all for show just so that they can, uh,

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eat at some expensive five-star, you know, French laundry restaurant

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and get all the wine they want. And meanwhile, Hey, uh,

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Papa and mama, you know, they're, they're happy at home and, uh,

851
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having a nice, a nice dinner with the family.

852
00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:25.800
Right.

853
00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:28.900
Something really liberating about not giving a damn what other

854
00:46:28.940 --> 00:46:31.559
people think of you. And I think I was born

855
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with that chromosome. Cause I never gave a damn, uh,

856
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But when I got when I got to Yale, I

857
00:46:36.980 --> 00:46:40.760
noticed everybody cared what everybody else thought. They were like

858
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cannibalistic sheep. And if the sheep start going one way,

859
00:46:44.690 --> 00:46:46.989
everybody follows and they don't want to be last in line.

860
00:46:47.030 --> 00:46:50.250
They have to get up front. And so that's that

861
00:46:50.489 --> 00:46:54.889
not intellectual arguments, not even indoctrination by the professors. It

862
00:46:54.969 --> 00:46:57.289
was the power of groupthink.

863
00:46:57.929 --> 00:46:58.110
Right.

864
00:46:58.630 --> 00:47:04.429
People really, really want to feel accepted. by the right set,

865
00:47:04.469 --> 00:47:06.889
by the right crowd. They really want to fall in

866
00:47:06.929 --> 00:47:09.650
line and be part of a movement. I think a

867
00:47:09.750 --> 00:47:13.449
lot of the people, look at Nazi Germany. The Nazis

868
00:47:13.510 --> 00:47:17.739
only got like 37% of the vote in their best

869
00:47:17.820 --> 00:47:22.980
election before they stopped having elections. The other 63% of

870
00:47:23.019 --> 00:47:26.440
the population voted against the Nazis. But within a couple

871
00:47:26.480 --> 00:47:31.010
of years, it was probably 80% supported them. Because it

872
00:47:31.510 --> 00:47:34.320
was the thing to do. It was the movement. It

873
00:47:34.360 --> 00:47:38.239
was what all the educated people were doing. It was

874
00:47:38.280 --> 00:47:40.860
what was accepted in society and what was touted in

875
00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:43.219
the press. And you don't want to be left out.

876
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You don't want to be the weirdo.

877
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You don't want to be the redheaded stepchild. So you're

878
00:47:48.250 --> 00:47:51.829
going to line up and get behind what all the

879
00:47:51.909 --> 00:47:57.239
best people are doing and saying and thinking. And of course, today,

880
00:47:58.179 --> 00:48:02.340
if you look in the entertainment industry, in academia, people

881
00:48:02.389 --> 00:48:06.190
are falling all over themselves to denounce Israel for defending itself,

882
00:48:06.610 --> 00:48:11.690
to denounce Trump for deporting sex traffickers and drug traffickers

883
00:48:12.010 --> 00:48:16.190
from the country, to denounce parents for trying to protect

884
00:48:16.230 --> 00:48:21.889
their kids from transgender propaganda designed to plant the seeds

885
00:48:21.949 --> 00:48:25.869
of gender dysphoria in young children's heads. It's like.

886
00:48:27.539 --> 00:48:30.880
Purposely putting typhoid in the water supply of a city.

887
00:48:30.900 --> 00:48:31.820
Yeah.

888
00:48:32.500 --> 00:48:35.719
Well, it's amazing, John, because it's the return of the lemmings.

889
00:48:35.900 --> 00:48:40.019
Remember 1985, that great Apple commercial they did during the

890
00:48:40.059 --> 00:48:43.900
Super Bowl? And here we are. I mean, after all

891
00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:46.079
these years, people saw that and they kind of laughed

892
00:48:46.139 --> 00:48:49.519
and the whole deal. And here we are. I mean,

893
00:48:49.539 --> 00:48:53.809
the lemmings are back. There's just something inherent about our

894
00:48:53.869 --> 00:48:59.460
humanness That leaves us vulnerable to this groupthink until, you know,

895
00:48:59.800 --> 00:49:02.820
you become like Germany or you become like Iran or

896
00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:04.500
any other third world country, right?

897
00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:08.340
One of my best friends, Jonathan Leaf, you should have

898
00:49:08.380 --> 00:49:11.179
him on your show, has a new book called The

899
00:49:11.260 --> 00:49:16.610
Primate Myth, where he says that we have distorted the

900
00:49:16.670 --> 00:49:22.260
study of human beings by looking to chimpanzees as very

901
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:27.460
close relatives of mankind and trying to explain human behavior

902
00:49:27.840 --> 00:49:30.820
by looking at the way apes act. In the book,

903
00:49:30.860 --> 00:49:34.559
The Primate Myth, he talks about how human beings really

904
00:49:34.599 --> 00:49:39.230
behave much more like elephants and dolphins and whales, which

905
00:49:39.289 --> 00:49:44.489
are highly social animals. And this leads to some good things.

906
00:49:45.429 --> 00:49:47.610
When we cooperate, we can do amazing things.

907
00:49:48.070 --> 00:49:48.369
Exactly.

908
00:49:48.409 --> 00:49:53.280
But also when we cooperate, we can go crazy all

909
00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:55.400
in the same way and all at the same time.

910
00:49:55.539 --> 00:49:59.920
And he points to the fact that dozens of Hollywood

911
00:49:59.940 --> 00:50:05.099
celebrities now say they have transgender kids. Way, way, way

912
00:50:05.159 --> 00:50:08.510
higher than the general population. How does that happen? It's

913
00:50:08.590 --> 00:50:13.349
social contagion. Somebody starts to do something, and it seems

914
00:50:13.389 --> 00:50:16.980
kind of fashionable, and suddenly people start imitating it. And

915
00:50:17.159 --> 00:50:20.820
so I think you would enjoy interviewing Jonathan. He just

916
00:50:20.840 --> 00:50:22.699
did the Naomi Wolf show. I'll give you this contact.

917
00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:24.050
Oh, well, yeah, please, please.

918
00:50:24.090 --> 00:50:24.320
Yes.

919
00:50:25.260 --> 00:50:27.190
You know, and thank you. You turned me on to

920
00:50:27.250 --> 00:50:30.130
Jeff Simmons and he's, it was a great conversation. What

921
00:50:30.150 --> 00:50:30.789
a great book.

922
00:50:31.150 --> 00:50:32.070
Oh, I'll have to watch that.

923
00:50:32.110 --> 00:50:32.510
Yeah.

924
00:50:32.530 --> 00:50:34.230
That was the book Oppenheimer's Demon.

925
00:50:34.630 --> 00:50:34.849
Right.

926
00:50:35.070 --> 00:50:35.489
Exactly.

927
00:50:35.610 --> 00:50:36.369
Yeah.

928
00:50:36.449 --> 00:50:38.690
A lot of fun. Look forward to having him back too.

929
00:50:38.730 --> 00:50:41.929
We're going to continue this conversation with him, but anyway.

930
00:50:42.389 --> 00:50:46.510
So anyway, we are, We are highly social animals. We're

931
00:50:46.550 --> 00:50:50.300
not quite like ants, but we're also not like chimpanzees,

932
00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:54.960
which are wildly individualistic. We are somewhere in between. And

933
00:50:54.980 --> 00:51:00.840
our social natures can lead to great things like fighting

934
00:51:00.860 --> 00:51:04.929
the Nazis together, pulling together to defeat the Japanese. But

935
00:51:04.969 --> 00:51:09.670
they can also lead to terrible things like the COVID panic.

936
00:51:10.059 --> 00:51:13.599
where everybody was snitching on their friends and family, not

937
00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:17.820
wearing masks and not getting the dead baby vaccine. Trump

938
00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:21.969
derangement syndrome, where people have really convinced themselves that half

939
00:51:22.010 --> 00:51:29.150
the country are quasi-fascists who want to commit genocide. You

940
00:51:29.210 --> 00:51:33.590
need to, you need, well, there's a great, great old

941
00:51:33.630 --> 00:51:37.570
short story by Hans Christian Andersen, The Emperor's New Clothes.

942
00:51:37.889 --> 00:51:38.210
Oh, yeah.

943
00:51:38.409 --> 00:51:43.849
And let me, It's deeper than people remember. These two

944
00:51:45.670 --> 00:51:52.380
con artists convince the king that they're going to make

945
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:54.300
him a suit of clothes that's the most beautiful in

946
00:51:54.320 --> 00:51:57.760
the world, but it can only be seen by people

947
00:51:57.800 --> 00:51:59.639
who are wise and sophisticated.

948
00:51:59.659 --> 00:52:00.260
Right.

949
00:52:01.989 --> 00:52:05.010
They give him a non-existent suit. He's completely naked, but

950
00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:09.019
he doesn't want to admit he's not really wise and sophisticated,

951
00:52:09.059 --> 00:52:12.000
so he claims to see it. And all his courtiers

952
00:52:12.039 --> 00:52:15.119
who want to be seen as wise and sophisticated, they

953
00:52:15.219 --> 00:52:18.380
all pretend to see it too. Again, they're not afraid

954
00:52:18.420 --> 00:52:23.449
of the emperor punishing him. They're afraid of looking like rubes,

955
00:52:23.630 --> 00:52:28.630
looking like unsophisticated fools. So the entire city, having been

956
00:52:28.670 --> 00:52:33.190
told that it's the mark of sophistication, to see these clothes,

957
00:52:33.429 --> 00:52:36.630
they all pretend to see it. Except there's one little

958
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boy who says, but he's completely naked. And then everyone's

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humiliated and the two con artists are thrown in prison

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or executed or something. That tells you something about the

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power of the sheep instinct, the herd instinct, social contagion.

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Right.

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You should be that one kid, that one boy saying

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the emperor is naked. There's also a famous picture of

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all this crowd of Germans giving the Nazi salute and

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one guy with his arms folded. Be that guy. We've

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actually located that guy. He survived World War II, thank God.

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I think somebody should make a movie about him.

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Well, or be Mordecai at the gate, right?

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That's right.

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Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Well, and this is the deal, is

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that you get these theorists and these people, and you

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got to understand, who's pulling the string here, John? We

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got 30 seconds left.

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Go ahead.

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I'll let you wrap it up.

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Screwtape, the enemy, the father of lies. All wars are

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ultimately spiritual wars, and we're in a spiritual war right now. Prayer, fasting,

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the sacraments, study your Bible, stay close to the person

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of Jesus Christ. He's going to be the only thing

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that keeps you standing in the maelstrom that we're entering now.

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Exactly.

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Dr. John Zimerick, he's the author of The Second Amendment,

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No First. John, thank you. As always, appreciate your time.

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God bless.

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Take care.

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Getting America back on track. Bill Martinez live.

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Hey, good morning.

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Welcome.

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Six minutes after the top of the hour, Bill Martinez here,

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and we've got Stan Ferris joining us. Stan's had an

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incredible background in leadership and developing churches, revitalizing pastoral leadership, decision-making,

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community and belonging, and church planting based on biblical applications. Stan,

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welcome to the show.

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Good to have you with us.

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Well, thank you, Bill. What a pleasure it is to

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be with you today. Thank you for your time. It

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really is a blessing to be with you.

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00:55:56.369 --> 00:55:58.550
Well, the blessing is ours, and I know our audience

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is going to agree after they hear about your book,

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Pivotal Decisions. Tell us about the book.

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Well, Bill, really over the last year, several years of

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my ministry, dealing with people, really for 30 years as

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a pastor, I've started recognizing that people were paralyzed, it seemed,

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in making decisions. And how do you make good decisions?

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And they were living in regret of past decisions. And

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so out of that, God began to disturb my life

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00:56:34.579 --> 00:56:37.260
that there's a need to try to help lead people

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to make better decisions. And really, Bill, out of that,

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God began to work in my own life that I

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realized in my life, I need to maybe be more

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00:56:48.659 --> 00:56:53.079
intentional about how I'm making decisions so that I honor

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God with my life and in my decision-making.

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You understand a lot of times when I talk to

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people about this particular topic and making decisions, they go,

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00:57:01.559 --> 00:57:04.199
I really want to hear from God, but I just

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00:57:04.360 --> 00:57:07.219
am not, I don't seem like I'm connecting. It just

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seems like the, you know, the telephone cord somehow is disconnected.

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Do you get that response as well?

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I get that a lot. You know, as a pastor,

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00:57:15.630 --> 00:57:19.590
I hear a lot, Bill, people asking me, how do

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00:57:19.630 --> 00:57:21.969
I know God's will? And how do I know for

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00:57:22.030 --> 00:57:25.989
sure this is God that's leading me in this direction

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00:57:26.329 --> 00:57:30.539
and not even is it the spiritual enemy that's leading

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00:57:30.579 --> 00:57:32.980
me this way? And how do I know that I'm

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00:57:33.000 --> 00:57:37.099
making a good decision here? I hear that a lot, Bill,

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as a pastor. And out of that really is one

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00:57:41.460 --> 00:57:44.400
reason why I wrote this book, Pivotal Decisions, to try

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00:57:44.420 --> 00:57:48.570
to help people see that while I can't guarantee you

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00:57:48.639 --> 00:57:51.210
there's these three easy steps to take, you don't always

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00:57:51.269 --> 00:57:53.929
make a good decision. Right. I can show you in

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00:57:53.969 --> 00:57:57.989
this book how you can build a foundation that's going

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00:57:58.030 --> 00:58:00.590
to help you make good decisions.

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00:58:02.010 --> 00:58:06.460
Well, you know, is the decision based on the outcome?

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00:58:07.199 --> 00:58:10.039
Because the Bible says we'll know them by the fruit.

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00:58:10.949 --> 00:58:13.329
Is the fruit of the decision evident?

1056
00:58:14.849 --> 00:58:19.510
It is, Bill. Here's what I've found, that most people,

1057
00:58:19.929 --> 00:58:27.079
when they're making decisions, they make reaction-based decisions. In other words,

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00:58:27.099 --> 00:58:31.119
they're just reacting to what's happening in their life. They're

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00:58:31.139 --> 00:58:37.860
reacting to their circumstances, whatever it might be. Pivotal decisions, again,

1060
00:58:37.900 --> 00:58:40.679
doesn't tell you take these three steps, you'll always make

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00:58:40.699 --> 00:58:43.780
a good decision. If you always made a good decision,

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00:58:43.840 --> 00:58:46.630
you wouldn't need Jesus. And we need Jesus and His grace.

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But what this book does, it teaches you about values-based decisions.

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And so you have a foundation where you know what

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00:58:56.150 --> 00:59:00.079
your values are. They're biblical-based values. And out of that

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00:59:00.139 --> 00:59:06.179
foundation of values, a value-based decision-making process, it's going to

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00:59:06.239 --> 00:59:09.019
help you make good decisions. But it's also going to

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00:59:09.079 --> 00:59:11.849
help you win. you make a bad decision. It's going

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00:59:11.869 --> 00:59:14.809
to help you be able to turn to God and

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00:59:14.869 --> 00:59:17.900
let God help you through that hard season of a

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00:59:17.909 --> 00:59:21.489
bad decision. You experience God's grace and you can keep

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00:59:21.570 --> 00:59:26.000
on going because you have that foundation of a value-based

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00:59:26.159 --> 00:59:32.389
decision-making process. Most people are just reacting. So people, one

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00:59:32.449 --> 00:59:34.630
of the big things, Bill, I see all the time

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00:59:34.789 --> 00:59:39.630
in families as they're making decision, they make decisions based

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00:59:39.909 --> 00:59:44.030
on comparison. So they're comparing their life to somebody else's.

1077
00:59:44.300 --> 00:59:48.260
And they see little Johnny over here in this family,

1078
00:59:48.949 --> 00:59:53.269
He's on a travel sports team, and he won a tournament,

1079
00:59:53.309 --> 00:59:56.230
and they see the pictures on social media, and they

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00:59:56.550 --> 00:59:59.309
begin to compare their life, their kids to little Johnny.

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00:59:59.349 --> 01:00:02.670
And so they think, well, I need that for my son.

1082
01:00:02.690 --> 01:00:04.409
I want my son to be on a travel team.

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01:00:05.159 --> 01:00:09.420
And they make that decision, and it's a reaction-based decision.

1084
01:00:10.099 --> 01:00:12.159
It's not good for their family. It's not good for

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01:00:12.179 --> 01:00:15.679
their spiritual life. It's not good for them, and it's

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01:00:15.739 --> 01:00:23.210
not values-based decision. And pivotal decisions, they are value-based, values-based decisions.

1087
01:00:24.010 --> 01:00:26.610
And those values are based on Scripture, are they not?

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01:00:26.679 --> 01:00:29.880
I mean, I often find when people are very confused

1089
01:00:30.900 --> 01:00:33.019
and they've kind of drifted away, and we're going to

1090
01:00:33.039 --> 01:00:34.579
talk about that because you bring that up in the

1091
01:00:34.599 --> 01:00:38.460
book as well, is that I find that often it's

1092
01:00:38.500 --> 01:00:42.119
they're not in the Word of God on a consistent basis. And,

1093
01:00:42.139 --> 01:00:44.900
I mean, God gave us His Word. I mean, think

1094
01:00:44.960 --> 01:00:47.800
about it. Here we are. We're so blessed in this century,

1095
01:00:47.860 --> 01:00:51.400
the 21st century, Stan, to have the Word of God

1096
01:00:51.480 --> 01:00:54.139
and to have other people, hopefully, around us that are

1097
01:00:54.179 --> 01:00:56.860
in the Word of God. Boy, there's, you know, oh,

1098
01:00:56.980 --> 01:00:59.199
and oh, yeah, let's not forget the Holy Spirit as well.

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01:00:59.519 --> 01:01:03.800
You know, I mean, we have such an array of

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01:01:03.860 --> 01:01:09.239
fortification and information to help us stay on track. But

1101
01:01:09.280 --> 01:01:12.239
if we're not tapping into it, And you say if

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01:01:12.260 --> 01:01:14.599
you're doing it based on a knee-jerk reaction or an

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01:01:14.659 --> 01:01:17.610
emotional deal or, you know, like a lot of times

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01:01:17.670 --> 01:01:19.789
people feel like, well, I got to make the decision,

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01:01:19.829 --> 01:01:22.429
you know, right now. I go, okay, why? Is it

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01:01:22.610 --> 01:01:24.329
life and death? I mean, if it's a life and

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01:01:24.369 --> 01:01:27.730
death situation, then there's a sense of urgency, right? But

1108
01:01:27.769 --> 01:01:29.690
if it's not necessarily life and death, then I don't

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01:01:29.710 --> 01:01:31.820
think we need the same expediency, do we?

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01:01:32.980 --> 01:01:35.280
That's right. That's right. And I kind of divide it

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01:01:35.340 --> 01:01:38.500
up this way, Bill. I look at decisions. We make

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01:01:39.400 --> 01:01:42.949
thousands of decisions a day. And most of those decisions

1113
01:01:43.260 --> 01:01:47.590
are habit decisions. It's just we don't think about them.

1114
01:01:47.690 --> 01:01:50.010
We get out of the bed. We walk to the kitchen.

1115
01:01:50.070 --> 01:01:52.289
We get in our car. We put the car in drive.

1116
01:01:52.329 --> 01:01:55.929
Those are habit-based decisions where just out of habit, we

1117
01:01:55.969 --> 01:01:58.329
make those. We don't think about them. Then we have

1118
01:01:58.590 --> 01:02:02.289
some small decisions that can have a big impact in

1119
01:02:02.349 --> 01:02:06.030
our life. For instance, you make the decision of what

1120
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you had for breakfast today. It's a small decision, the

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01:02:08.860 --> 01:02:12.099
big picture of life. But over 20 years, if you

1122
01:02:12.360 --> 01:02:15.619
are eating donuts every day for breakfast, well, that's going

1123
01:02:15.639 --> 01:02:18.400
to have an impact in your life. And then we

1124
01:02:18.440 --> 01:02:23.639
have major decisions, Bill, that do impact your life. Who

1125
01:02:23.659 --> 01:02:28.860
you're going to marry. Will you have kids? Those type

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of decisions. What job will you take? Those are major decisions.

1127
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But there's also another category that are pivotal decisions. These

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are destiny decisions. These decisions are going to transform your life.

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For instance, pivotal decision number one is I will make

1130
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the decision to know God and to know him well.

1131
01:02:53.880 --> 01:02:58.280
It all starts there. That transforms your destiny. And if

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you know God and know him well, God might not

1133
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give you the three-step process to know exactly what to

1134
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do every time. but you know God and you know

1135
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Him well, that value that you've built into your heart

1136
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and to your soul, then the Holy Spirit is gonna

1137
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lead you in your decision making. And you might not

1138
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know exactly what to do, but Bill, I believe that

1139
01:03:21.179 --> 01:03:23.800
if you are following the Scripture, you have the Holy

1140
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Spirit in your life, and you know God and know

1141
01:03:26.239 --> 01:03:29.280
Him well, that even when you don't know the exact

1142
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thing to do, the Holy Spirit's gonna lead you in

1143
01:03:31.659 --> 01:03:32.260
the right direction.

1144
01:03:32.719 --> 01:03:33.360
Well, exactly.

1145
01:03:33.389 --> 01:03:36.820
If there's a course correction that's necessary, God is there,

1146
01:03:37.760 --> 01:03:39.380
not for you to get over it, but to get

1147
01:03:39.400 --> 01:03:42.519
through it. Because in getting through it, we learn so much,

1148
01:03:42.579 --> 01:03:43.219
don't we, Stan?

1149
01:03:44.340 --> 01:03:48.360
We do. And sometimes God puts you in those positions

1150
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because that's how you're going to learn. And that's why

1151
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years ago, she was diagnosed with cancer. Praise God, she's

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doing well.

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Thank God.

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And God answered her prayers in her life. However... We

1156
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both will say to you, Bill, that it was during

1157
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that season of life that we really experienced the presence

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of God in a special way. And we grew closer

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difficult season for a real positive thing in our lives.

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And that was when we grew the most. And so

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God uses those times to help us. And that's his will.

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Well, we're talking with Pastor Stan Paris. Through his book,

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Pivotal Decisions, he walks through 10 decisions covering faith, relationships, purpose, character,

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and legacy for anyone who has wondered, How did I

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get here? Boy, have we ever asked that question, right, Stan?

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Oh, that's right. We all ask that question. And I

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think that we have a whole culture of people, Bill,

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that are confused. And they're confused because we have a

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spiritual enemy, number one. And they're confused because we have

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a culture that is teaching a worldview that is totally

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anti-Scripture and anti-God. And it is not led to freedom

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and happiness and all that is promised. Instead, it's led

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to massive brokenness. And because of that, as Christ followers,

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we need to have a solid base in our life.

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And these pivotal decisions will help you build that solid

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foundation to build your life on, to make sure that

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your worldview is in line with Scripture. I mean, think

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about this, Bill. When Paul writes in Ephesians, about the

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armor of God, put on the full armor of God.

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Every piece of armor is a defensive piece of armor,

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except for one.

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Except for one, exactly.

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And that's the sword of the spirit. And that's the

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word of God. And when you align your life with

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the word of God, which these decisions help you do that,

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you align yourself with the word of God, doesn't mean

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life's always going to be easy, but you have a

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foundation to weather the storm. And just like I preached

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recently in one of my sermons, the Apostle Paul, he

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was teaching the church in Corinth in 1 Corinthians 15

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and 16. And Paul tells them that God has opened

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a door for ministry here, but there's going to be adversaries.

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And it's not going to be easy. And we shouldn't

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expect it to. To live for Christ in a culture

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the way our culture is going, it's not going to

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be easy to be a follower of Christ. But if

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you have a foundation built in your life, these biblical values,

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these pivotal decisions, you build those into your life, then

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you have a foundation to weather the storm and to

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stand against the wave of the secular culture.

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I think that this is one thing that's under-presented when

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people come to Christ, is that you're entering into a battlefield,

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and a battlefield of where you need to know this,

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the leader of your church was crucified, okay? And he says,

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pick up your cross and follow me. I mean, think

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about that. So even before you come to make a decision,

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you need to be prepared and consider the cost, do

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you not?

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That's right. And I think, Bill, and this is especially

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prevalent in American churches, where we have this idea that

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If we are saved and we are trying to live

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for Christ, that life is supposed to be easy. Maybe

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even believe that God kind of owes us that kind

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of life. But that's the opposite of what the scripture

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teaches us. That as we get closer to the coming

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of Christ, there's going to be more persecution. It's going

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to be harder. There's going to be more pressure. And

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that's why you have to align yourself with scripture and

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build these disciplines into your life. So you have a

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solid foundation to stand on when those storms come and

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the pressure that certainly is already happening. It was just

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going to get worse. You have to have this foundation

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in your life.

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And you got to know that God is there for

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you in the same way that Jesus was there for Peter.

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I mean, people look at Peter and say, wow, you know,

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he denied the Lord three times. But God, you know,

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meets him there on the beach and says, hey, Peter,

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I want you to know all that considered. You're still

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my guy, right?

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That's right.

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That's right. I mean, God is a God of grace,

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and we're thankful that Jesus, He is a God of

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grace and a God of second chances. I have a

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plaque on my wall I keep in my office, Bill,

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so that anybody that walks in my office that's struggling,

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I can point to. It's one of my favorite verses

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in the Bible, in the book of Jonah, where God says,

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the word of the Lord came to Jonah a second time.

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And God has second chances. With the grace of Jesus,

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we know that God's always with us. And even when

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we make a bad decision, we come to Christ and

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he restores us and there's redemption found. And I live

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in that everyday, Bill, and grateful for it.

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Well, in your book, you talk about, you know, even

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though you said, look, it's not about three steps here,

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but Jesus did kind of lay out three steps. And

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he said, well, remember, repent, return, right? So remember, what

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are we to remember here?

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Remember what God has done, Bill. Remember where we started.

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You know what we all have in common is where

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we started. And we separated from God. We started alienated

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from God. We started with no hope. And we have

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to remember where we came from. And where we came

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from was a place of hopelessness. And then we remember

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that and it should point us to a heart of

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gratitude and a heart of commitment to the Lord. When

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we remember where we started and he rescued us when

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we had no hope and brought redemption. And we remember

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where we started and we remember the way that God

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intervened in our life and to our brokenness. And he

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gave us hope through Jesus Christ. We remember that. And

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that's the starting point. Right.

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You remember. And then in remembering where you were and

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01:15:13.289 --> 01:15:17.149
being honest and confessing to God and for that moment,

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being able to see, maybe not to the depth that

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God does, but beginning to see, you know, what sin

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has done to you, how it's hurt God. And when

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you do that and you fall on the rock of

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that reality, you I don't know how you not repent, Stan.

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But when you repent, that seals the deal, doesn't it?

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Yeah. You remember that. You remember your hopelessness and you

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remember your brokenness. And there was absolutely nothing you could

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do about it on your own, Bill. And God rescued

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you from that through Jesus Christ. And that leads you

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to repentance. You turn from your sin and you turn

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01:15:59.699 --> 01:16:03.220
to Jesus again. because he is the only one that

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01:16:03.279 --> 01:16:07.140
is worthy to save you because of what he's done

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for you.

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Right.

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You remember and you return, you repent and you return

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to Christ. Yeah.

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I think the thing that's underestimated greatly here, Stan, is that,

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you know, the power of forgiveness, you know, when Jesus

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01:16:19.979 --> 01:16:24.279
was talking about forgiving sins, it was freaking out, you know,

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01:16:24.380 --> 01:16:26.420
the religious leaders at the time, they go like, who,

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01:16:26.880 --> 01:16:29.739
who is he to forgive sin? Only God can forgive sin, right?

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And Jesus transferred that ministry to us by the power

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of the Holy Spirit. And I believe that we underestimate

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the power of forgiveness, and particularly as it relates to sin.

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What do you say?

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Yeah, I think, you know, I spent a whole chapter

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in the book talking about forgiveness and the power of forgiveness.

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But I start by building a picture of the result

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of unforgiveness. And, you know, it starts with you realizing

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01:17:09.329 --> 01:17:16.949
how much Jesus has forgiven you. And the grace that

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is evident in the forgiveness of Christ for the Son

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of God to die on the cross and willingly die

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for our sins, shed his blood for us. uh, that

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we could experience his forgiveness. Um, we remember that and

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that is, leaves us build no choice, uh, but to

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offer forgiveness to others. And when we don't, we, we

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really are denying the power of the grace of Jesus

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in our own life. And we're also, um, We're also living,

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putting ourselves in our own prison of unforgiveness, and we

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hurt ourselves, but we also are denying the power of

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the grace of Jesus and the work that he's done

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in our own lives when we are unwilling to forgive.

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01:18:12.739 --> 01:18:14.060
Stan, we've got about a minute left, and I did

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want to address the 310s rule. I love this. I'm

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going to use this quite often going forward.

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Go ahead.

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And if you can do it, summarize it in a

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minute here, okay?

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Go ahead. Yeah, the three tens rule has been around

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a long time. And it's a rule that there's a

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business model as well, I think, for this rule. But

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the three tens rule is really powerful as you're making

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your decisions. You ask yourself, first, will this decision I make,

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01:18:45.869 --> 01:18:50.899
will it matter in 10 minutes? And then you ask,

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01:18:51.350 --> 01:18:54.479
this decision I'm making, will it matter in 10 months?

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And then you ask, this decision I'm making, will it

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matter in 10 years? And the reality is, Bill, that

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most of the decisions we're making are not going to

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matter in 10 years.

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Mm-hmm.

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And now they might matter in 10 minutes. And it

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might even matter in 10 months. But the vast majority

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of the decisions we're making that we're stressed over and

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we're worried about and we're anxious about, we're not even

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going to remember that we made them in 10 years.

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On the other side of this though, Bill, there are

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some decisions we're making that will matter in 10 years.

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And these decisions I talk about in the book, Pivotal Decisions,

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They're going to matter in 10 years. If you make

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these decisions and put them in your life and build

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your life on this foundation, then it's going to matter

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in 10 years. It's going to matter in 10 years

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if you know God and know him well. It's going

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to matter that you have built community into your life.

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It's going to matter that you have been willing to

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forgive someone that has hurt you. It's going to matter

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in 10 years that you are reading the Bible and

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Exactly.

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Hey, we're back with you. Good morning. Glad you could

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join us. Bill Martinez here. For more information on the show,

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you can go to Bill Martinez Live Background, a little

1503
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bit of background information. You know, for many families caring

1504
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for a loved one with Alzheimer's disease, an ordinary afternoon

1505
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can shift without warning. Pacing, aimless, wandering, and repetitive behaviors

1506
01:24:47.359 --> 01:24:53.270
can upset an otherwise pleasant day. It's called agitation-associated dementia

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01:24:53.310 --> 01:24:56.609
due to Alzheimer's disease, what they refer to as AAD.

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And for the 7 million Americans living with Alzheimer's disease,

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it's one of the most common and disruptive yet least

1510
01:25:04.050 --> 01:25:07.590
understood symptoms. Although as many as 75% of people with

1511
01:25:07.630 --> 01:25:12.729
Alzheimer's disease experience AAD, a new survey found that 68%

1512
01:25:12.729 --> 01:25:16.920
of care partners didn't realize the agitation. was connected to

1513
01:25:17.100 --> 01:25:20.560
Alzheimer's disease. And here to talk more about it with

1514
01:25:20.680 --> 01:25:25.189
us is our special guest, Dr. Brent Forster. He is

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01:25:25.250 --> 01:25:28.869
the psychiatrist-in-chief and chair of the Department of Psychiatry at

1516
01:25:28.909 --> 01:25:33.710
Tufts Medical Center. And Karen Finocchio, Alzheimer's caregiver advocate. Welcome

1517
01:25:33.729 --> 01:25:35.579
to the show, Brent and Karen. Great to have you

1518
01:25:35.619 --> 01:25:35.880
with us.

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01:25:38.199 --> 01:25:39.380
Thank you, Bill, for having us.

1520
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Thanks so much, Bill.

1521
01:25:41.180 --> 01:25:44.659
Dr., let me ask you first, what is agitation associated

1522
01:25:44.699 --> 01:25:47.500
with dementia due to Alzheimer's disease?

1523
01:25:50.000 --> 01:25:54.060
Well, as you mentioned, agitation is a very common syndrome

1524
01:25:54.399 --> 01:25:57.819
as part of Alzheimer's disease and frankly, other dementias as well,

1525
01:25:57.859 --> 01:26:00.579
occurring in about three quarters of all people with dementia.

1526
01:26:01.340 --> 01:26:05.340
And it is incredibly disabling. The symptoms vary widely from

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01:26:05.520 --> 01:26:10.090
subtle symptoms like pacing and wandering and general restlessness to

1528
01:26:11.039 --> 01:26:14.699
to more obvious symptoms that can be disruptive and frankly

1529
01:26:14.779 --> 01:26:18.659
cause safety concerns like physical aggression, punching or kicking or

1530
01:26:18.699 --> 01:26:23.420
hitting or yelling loudly. But these symptoms really vary widely

1531
01:26:23.560 --> 01:26:27.800
from patient to patient, from individual to individual. And according

1532
01:26:27.840 --> 01:26:30.680
to a recent survey, because some of the symptoms can

1533
01:26:30.720 --> 01:26:34.649
be subtle, about two-thirds of all family care partners don't

1534
01:26:34.689 --> 01:26:39.109
even recognize some of the symptoms we just described as agitation.

1535
01:26:40.069 --> 01:26:44.729
And nearly 100% of care partners say that the agitated

1536
01:26:44.789 --> 01:26:49.630
behaviors adversely impact their own quality of life as care partners.

1537
01:26:50.609 --> 01:26:53.909
I got to imagine it turns the household upside down.

1538
01:26:53.970 --> 01:26:57.430
You have all that energy, you know, that's released in

1539
01:26:57.470 --> 01:27:03.649
the household. So it causes quite the disturbance. So, you know,

1540
01:27:03.670 --> 01:27:08.170
we touched on this momentarily that agitation changes daily life

1541
01:27:08.210 --> 01:27:11.909
for both the person with Alzheimer's disease and the care partner, right?

1542
01:27:14.140 --> 01:27:17.979
Absolutely does. And I'll let Karen, who has had her

1543
01:27:18.020 --> 01:27:20.760
own experience with this, maybe answer from your perspective.

1544
01:27:21.779 --> 01:27:22.119
Sure.

1545
01:27:22.279 --> 01:27:26.000
Yeah, you accurately nailed it.

1546
01:27:26.199 --> 01:27:27.579
It's an upheaval. Yeah.

1547
01:27:28.409 --> 01:27:30.630
You know, in our journey, it started with being very

1548
01:27:30.689 --> 01:27:35.390
unpredictable from a very predictable person. And then it really

1549
01:27:35.449 --> 01:27:42.760
became unmanageable because it impacted, drastically impacted just daily life living, dressing,

1550
01:27:43.260 --> 01:27:47.779
leaving the house, going out for dinner. And then ultimately

1551
01:27:47.840 --> 01:27:52.710
unsafe for both, you know, my mom and our family,

1552
01:27:52.789 --> 01:27:58.010
but You know, we watched it with stem from frustration

1553
01:27:58.069 --> 01:27:59.930
and denial on the care partner side.

1554
01:27:59.949 --> 01:28:01.810
So there was a delay.

1555
01:28:01.829 --> 01:28:06.159
And then also from my mother's side, which was definitely

1556
01:28:06.220 --> 01:28:13.460
frustration and fear. But it really impacted just your daily

1557
01:28:13.520 --> 01:28:17.520
habits and the unpredictable nature, much like the survey showed

1558
01:28:17.560 --> 01:28:19.760
three out of four care partners, which we had known earlier,

1559
01:28:20.520 --> 01:28:23.329
we wish we had known earlier. We knew that there was.

1560
01:28:23.279 --> 01:28:24.069
A change in behavior.

1561
01:28:24.109 --> 01:28:26.229
We just weren't able to identify it at that point.

1562
01:28:26.930 --> 01:28:27.050
Yeah.

1563
01:28:27.069 --> 01:28:29.630
But how do you prepare for this, Karen? Because, you know,

1564
01:28:30.149 --> 01:28:32.670
people can tell you, hey, this could happen, but you

1565
01:28:32.710 --> 01:28:35.430
don't know until you're in the battle. And all of

1566
01:28:35.489 --> 01:28:37.689
a sudden you have a loved one, in your case,

1567
01:28:37.710 --> 01:28:41.079
your mother, and all of a sudden this behavior is

1568
01:28:41.140 --> 01:28:45.359
being demonstrated that heretofore is foreign to you.

1569
01:28:47.260 --> 01:28:53.420
Yeah, 100%. You know, as care partners, we know the

1570
01:28:53.619 --> 01:28:56.560
loved one best. We see the behaviors, and it's really

1571
01:28:56.579 --> 01:29:01.989
important really important, at least in our situation, we watched

1572
01:29:02.010 --> 01:29:06.060
the behaviors and we worked very closely with their treatment

1573
01:29:06.069 --> 01:29:10.060
team and the docs and the nurses and everyone that

1574
01:29:10.600 --> 01:29:13.720
had the professional and clinical background to help us figure

1575
01:29:13.760 --> 01:29:17.680
out what was going on. And so that was really

1576
01:29:17.739 --> 01:29:21.760
critical throughout the entire journey. And this was a very

1577
01:29:21.819 --> 01:29:26.260
long journey and one that is different for every single person.

1578
01:29:26.640 --> 01:29:30.060
every single family that goes through it. And when we

1579
01:29:30.100 --> 01:29:32.520
were able to work closely with the team and get

1580
01:29:32.560 --> 01:29:38.869
the agitation in her situation controlled, although the Alzheimer's wasn't

1581
01:29:38.909 --> 01:29:43.449
going away, I had flickers of my old mom and

1582
01:29:43.510 --> 01:29:45.649
I wouldn't trade that for anything. And that was a

1583
01:29:45.750 --> 01:29:51.229
holistic approach and really being active participants in her care.

1584
01:29:52.909 --> 01:29:56.409
Yeah, it's interesting because I think, and doctor, you would

1585
01:29:56.449 --> 01:29:58.449
know better on this and I don't want to be

1586
01:29:58.529 --> 01:30:02.069
reckless with any kind of assessment here, but it's almost

1587
01:30:02.130 --> 01:30:05.420
like in dealing with somebody who has an addictive behavior,

1588
01:30:06.119 --> 01:30:08.720
you know, you go from island to island, you know,

1589
01:30:08.760 --> 01:30:10.859
you deal with the craziness and you're on an island

1590
01:30:10.899 --> 01:30:12.939
of peace and then you go through more craziness and

1591
01:30:12.960 --> 01:30:16.699
you're back on another island of peace. Is that fair

1592
01:30:17.500 --> 01:30:18.560
to see it that way, doctor?

1593
01:30:21.069 --> 01:30:23.470
Bill, it's a really interesting question. I would say that,

1594
01:30:23.909 --> 01:30:26.920
like Karen was just describing in her mom's situation, what

1595
01:30:26.960 --> 01:30:30.640
her mom's situation was like was one person's experience and

1596
01:30:30.739 --> 01:30:36.520
one family's experience. And it varies widely. Everyone is an individual.

1597
01:30:36.939 --> 01:30:40.489
Everyone's brain is different, right? Everyone's environmental situation is different.

1598
01:30:40.510 --> 01:30:43.010
And their families are at different stages of understanding and

1599
01:30:43.050 --> 01:30:46.770
coping and managing and dealing with this illness. But these

1600
01:30:46.850 --> 01:30:50.489
agitation behaviors can definitely fluctuate. They can come and go.

1601
01:30:50.520 --> 01:30:55.140
There may be predictable triggers and antecedents or that may

1602
01:30:55.180 --> 01:30:58.319
come out of the blue. Both are possible. And so

1603
01:30:58.340 --> 01:31:01.159
what's really important is that the family has this keen

1604
01:31:01.220 --> 01:31:04.680
sense of observation and is not doing it alone. When

1605
01:31:04.720 --> 01:31:06.899
you're in the moment living with a loved one who's

1606
01:31:06.939 --> 01:31:10.770
got these symptoms, you're just trying to manage day to day, right?

1607
01:31:10.970 --> 01:31:13.529
And your perspective is going to be very different than

1608
01:31:13.550 --> 01:31:17.140
an outsider's who is not as emotionally connected as you

1609
01:31:17.279 --> 01:31:19.500
are as a family member and may be able to

1610
01:31:19.539 --> 01:31:21.819
do a more objective assessment. And that's why, as Karen

1611
01:31:21.850 --> 01:31:24.109
was mentioning with her mom's situation, she had a whole

1612
01:31:24.189 --> 01:31:27.010
team that was helping to understand what was going on

1613
01:31:27.029 --> 01:31:29.029
with her mom and to help them figure out the

1614
01:31:29.090 --> 01:31:33.729
right treatment plan and approach. Because just like these symptoms

1615
01:31:33.789 --> 01:31:36.729
are different in everyone, the approach to treatment is also different.

1616
01:31:36.770 --> 01:31:39.229
It's not like one size fits all. And I think

1617
01:31:39.270 --> 01:31:42.170
that's a really important point that people need to understand.

1618
01:31:43.109 --> 01:31:45.489
Karen, in the process that you went through with your mom,

1619
01:31:46.210 --> 01:31:49.869
was there anything that you found that could kind of

1620
01:31:49.989 --> 01:31:53.760
settle her, that was kind of a go-to, you know,

1621
01:31:53.859 --> 01:31:56.439
I don't want to say therapy, maybe you could say therapy,

1622
01:31:56.479 --> 01:31:59.079
but something, you know, like a hug, a touch, or

1623
01:31:59.119 --> 01:32:03.010
something that would just settle her? Did you discover anything

1624
01:32:03.050 --> 01:32:03.470
like that?

1625
01:32:05.930 --> 01:32:09.329
Much like like Dr. Forrester just said, it depends. It

1626
01:32:09.390 --> 01:32:13.210
depended upon where she was at. It depended upon what

1627
01:32:13.350 --> 01:32:18.369
the trigger was. So it was really about being nimble

1628
01:32:18.649 --> 01:32:23.250
and understanding where there were bigger changes that needed to

1629
01:32:23.310 --> 01:32:24.810
be flagged.

1630
01:32:24.850 --> 01:32:27.090
And as Dr.

1631
01:32:27.130 --> 01:32:31.260
Forrester said, sometimes as a care partner, you're in the

1632
01:32:31.310 --> 01:32:37.420
weeds and it's frustrating and it's tiring and you're stressed. you, you,

1633
01:32:37.880 --> 01:32:40.590
at least for, for myself, like you, I didn't take

1634
01:32:40.619 --> 01:32:43.869
care of myself the way I should, um, because I was, I,

1635
01:32:44.029 --> 01:32:47.109
I wanted to care for my loved one. But when you,

1636
01:32:47.550 --> 01:32:50.810
you know, when we found one thing that we found, again,

1637
01:32:50.850 --> 01:32:53.569
this wasn't the entire duration of her journey. It was

1638
01:32:53.609 --> 01:32:56.170
a very small part of it, but for my mom

1639
01:32:56.189 --> 01:32:59.159
was music and we would put a piece of music

1640
01:32:59.279 --> 01:33:01.550
on and she would just sit and dance. And, and,

1641
01:33:02.180 --> 01:33:04.640
but that was, that was one microcosm.

1642
01:33:05.390 --> 01:33:05.930
Right, exactly.

1643
01:33:05.949 --> 01:33:06.899
Of a very long journey.

1644
01:33:07.560 --> 01:33:08.020
Well, Dr.

1645
01:33:08.039 --> 01:33:10.859
Foy, I believe, well, yes, I can only imagine.

1646
01:33:11.260 --> 01:33:11.520
Dr.

1647
01:33:11.560 --> 01:33:13.600
Forster, in your opinion, as we wrap things up, we've

1648
01:33:13.619 --> 01:33:16.159
got a little over a minute left. How can healthcare

1649
01:33:16.229 --> 01:33:20.890
providers and care partners move towards having earlier conversations around

1650
01:33:21.069 --> 01:33:24.090
agitation after an Alzheimer's diagnosis?

1651
01:33:26.720 --> 01:33:30.539
I think the assessment of agitation and other behavioral symptoms

1652
01:33:30.819 --> 01:33:34.250
needs to be part of the comprehensive assessment package. It's

1653
01:33:34.310 --> 01:33:37.529
not just assessing someone's memory and orientation to where they

1654
01:33:37.729 --> 01:33:41.210
are or their ability to make good judgment. Their cognitive

1655
01:33:41.250 --> 01:33:45.390
functioning is critical to assess. Their day-to-day functioning, their ability

1656
01:33:45.430 --> 01:33:48.380
to bathe and dress and pay bills and drive, those

1657
01:33:48.460 --> 01:33:51.359
are all important to assess as well. But the third

1658
01:33:51.420 --> 01:33:54.920
major domain, in addition to cognition and function, are these

1659
01:33:54.960 --> 01:33:59.520
behavioral symptoms including very prominently agitation. That has to be

1660
01:33:59.579 --> 01:34:03.060
part of routine assessment. It is often when they see

1661
01:34:03.100 --> 01:34:05.810
a specialist like a neurologist or someone like me, a

1662
01:34:05.850 --> 01:34:10.909
geriatric psychiatrist, but most people with dementia, their loved ones

1663
01:34:10.970 --> 01:34:13.210
will never be taking them to a specialist because there's

1664
01:34:13.310 --> 01:34:18.050
a supply-demand mismatch, if you will. So it's the primary

1665
01:34:18.130 --> 01:34:21.880
care clinicians that really need to also understand that agitation

1666
01:34:21.939 --> 01:34:23.840
is part of this comprehensive assessment.

1667
01:34:24.399 --> 01:34:24.800
Exactly.

1668
01:34:25.170 --> 01:34:29.069
Well, our thanks to Karen Pinocchio, an Alzheimer's caregiver advocate,

1669
01:34:29.430 --> 01:34:33.050
and Dr. Brent Forrester, psychiatrist-in-chief and chair of the Department

1670
01:34:33.069 --> 01:34:37.550
of Psychiatry at Tufts Medical Center. Final word, Dr. Forrester,

1671
01:34:37.590 --> 01:34:39.029
where can we go for more information?

1672
01:34:39.050 --> 01:34:43.630
A couple of resources I'll let Karen comment as well.

1673
01:34:44.329 --> 01:34:47.390
First of all, there are a number of outstanding advocacy

1674
01:34:47.430 --> 01:34:52.050
organizations that are regional, state-based, and some that are national.

1675
01:34:52.510 --> 01:34:55.649
There are books that are written on this topic. But

1676
01:34:55.890 --> 01:34:59.010
it's really, I think, incumbent upon all of us to

1677
01:34:59.090 --> 01:35:01.710
educate ourselves. And I think Karen has another resource she

1678
01:35:01.750 --> 01:35:02.449
wants to mention.

1679
01:35:02.850 --> 01:35:03.229
Sure.

1680
01:35:03.449 --> 01:35:06.989
Often when you're in this journey as a care partner,

1681
01:35:07.220 --> 01:35:09.779
it can be very silent. It can feel very isolating

1682
01:35:09.840 --> 01:35:16.460
and scary. And to take that first step, there's a website, alzgoals.com.

1683
01:35:16.560 --> 01:35:22.279
So it's A-L-Z-G-O-A-L-S dot com is a great central hub

1684
01:35:22.340 --> 01:35:26.779
for starting point that will give tactical strategies, or tactical information,

1685
01:35:26.880 --> 01:35:32.789
as well as strategies, as well as other resources to local, regional,

1686
01:35:32.949 --> 01:35:34.689
and national outlets.

1687
01:35:35.569 --> 01:35:38.130
Well, Karen and Dr. Forster, again, thank you very much

1688
01:35:38.149 --> 01:35:39.350
for coming on the show. Take care.

1689
01:35:39.409 --> 01:35:39.770
Be well.

1690
01:35:41.109 --> 01:35:42.170
Thank you, Bill. Thank you so much.

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Hey, welcome back. Glad you could join us. Bill Martinez

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here with Dr. Bonner Cohen. Bonner, how are we doing?

1761
01:39:55.800 --> 01:39:57.699
Hi, doing very well, Bill.

1762
01:39:57.779 --> 01:40:00.279
And I hope that you and our listeners are too.

1763
01:40:00.939 --> 01:40:03.779
Well, Bonner is a senior policy analyst with the Committee

1764
01:40:03.819 --> 01:40:06.979
for Constructive Tomorrow. Always great to have his genius on here.

1765
01:40:07.590 --> 01:40:10.770
And we've got, you know, some serious issues to catch

1766
01:40:10.869 --> 01:40:15.970
up on, particularly, you know, clean energy, quote unquote, isn't

1767
01:40:16.090 --> 01:40:19.130
the future, nor is it really clean, huh?

1768
01:40:20.300 --> 01:40:27.079
That's exactly right. Just as the soaring global demand for energy,

1769
01:40:27.180 --> 01:40:34.170
particularly electricity in the U.S., for instance, to power data

1770
01:40:34.189 --> 01:40:38.750
centers and what have you, just as that's coming to

1771
01:40:38.770 --> 01:40:42.560
the fore, of course, the Trump administration, to its credit,

1772
01:40:43.260 --> 01:40:47.659
has done away with a lot of the handouts to

1773
01:40:47.880 --> 01:40:54.199
wind and solar industry, making it financially less attractive for

1774
01:40:54.399 --> 01:40:59.779
investors to put their money in wind farms and solar farms, which,

1775
01:40:59.840 --> 01:41:05.199
by the way, offer practically no benefits or additions to

1776
01:41:05.500 --> 01:41:11.140
our energy supply in any event. Lo and behold... A

1777
01:41:11.189 --> 01:41:16.909
study recently came out. It was published by MIT, which

1778
01:41:16.989 --> 01:41:22.720
gave the study a lot of prestige. Not to worry.

1779
01:41:23.899 --> 01:41:27.439
Clean energy is going to be able to come through

1780
01:41:27.460 --> 01:41:34.670
the recent unpleasantness in the regulatory area and that we

1781
01:41:34.689 --> 01:41:41.600
can count on more wind power and more solar power

1782
01:41:42.100 --> 01:41:46.439
in the years to come. Well, there's actually no reason

1783
01:41:46.560 --> 01:41:50.109
whatever to believe that. Now, the developers and the Greens,

1784
01:41:50.250 --> 01:41:54.810
of course, are going to continue to push that, hoping

1785
01:41:54.930 --> 01:42:00.760
for a regime change in Washington that will restore the

1786
01:42:00.810 --> 01:42:07.810
handouts to green energy. However, If you look at the

1787
01:42:07.869 --> 01:42:12.789
global energy picture, it's quite fascinating. Despite all the sound

1788
01:42:13.050 --> 01:42:20.130
and thunder for green energy, fossil fuels still make up

1789
01:42:20.130 --> 01:42:22.529
86% of global energy needs.

1790
01:42:22.529 --> 01:42:22.670
86%.

1791
01:42:22.670 --> 01:42:35.090
Wind and solar, 3%. That figure has not undergone any

1792
01:42:35.189 --> 01:42:38.840
substantial changes over the past 20 years.

1793
01:42:39.239 --> 01:42:41.680
Bonner, let me stop you for just a second, because

1794
01:42:41.720 --> 01:42:43.960
I know how Trump looks at this. He's a business guy,

1795
01:42:44.939 --> 01:42:46.520
and I'm the same way. I look at the bottom line.

1796
01:42:46.939 --> 01:42:50.119
All right, so here we are. For 3% yield, how

1797
01:42:50.159 --> 01:42:53.550
many trillions of dollars have we spent on this boondoggle?

1798
01:42:53.569 --> 01:42:56.789
Yes, that's right. How many trillions of dollars have we spent?

1799
01:42:56.909 --> 01:43:01.739
How much land have we put to produce this 3%

1800
01:43:01.739 --> 01:43:10.810
when producing other things on that land, including food, for

1801
01:43:10.869 --> 01:43:15.729
a grand total of 3%. It's true that we're producing

1802
01:43:15.789 --> 01:43:20.439
more wind and solar power, but we're also producing vastly

1803
01:43:20.600 --> 01:43:23.100
more oil and natural gas.

1804
01:43:23.460 --> 01:43:23.960
Exactly.

1805
01:43:24.060 --> 01:43:28.819
And that more than offsets the increase in wind and

1806
01:43:28.939 --> 01:43:33.149
solar power. So what MIT has effectively done here by

1807
01:43:33.270 --> 01:43:40.149
publishing this study is given some intellectual heft to an

1808
01:43:40.310 --> 01:43:44.880
argument which simply is not supported by readily available data.

1809
01:43:46.100 --> 01:43:49.279
Well, I mean, even if you got solar and wind

1810
01:43:49.420 --> 01:43:53.199
up to 12%, it still wouldn't be worth the investment.

1811
01:43:53.239 --> 01:43:53.579
Would it?

1812
01:43:54.069 --> 01:43:58.310
No, it wouldn't, simply because it would still have to

1813
01:43:58.350 --> 01:44:04.399
be backed up by batteries, which themselves do what? All

1814
01:44:04.720 --> 01:44:05.920
batteries die.

1815
01:44:06.340 --> 01:44:06.520
Yes.

1816
01:44:06.619 --> 01:44:09.079
Which means, and this gets us to this whole thing

1817
01:44:09.260 --> 01:44:13.550
of how clean is clean energy, you have to dispose

1818
01:44:13.979 --> 01:44:14.890
of dead batteries.

1819
01:44:14.930 --> 01:44:16.670
I was going to say, exactly.

1820
01:44:16.850 --> 01:44:20.729
You have to dispose of dead solar panels, and you

1821
01:44:20.770 --> 01:44:23.970
have to dispose of dead wind turbines.

1822
01:44:24.789 --> 01:44:26.810
And so where do they go? The graveyard?

1823
01:44:26.850 --> 01:44:30.770
Most of this stuff cannot be recycled, so it winds

1824
01:44:30.909 --> 01:44:35.909
up in landfills all across the country, particularly in the Midwest,

1825
01:44:36.369 --> 01:44:40.029
where a lot of landfills are now becoming graveyards for

1826
01:44:41.329 --> 01:44:45.800
wind turbines, particularly the blades, which are very long and

1827
01:44:46.029 --> 01:44:50.439
very full of very toxic material that can in no

1828
01:44:50.659 --> 01:44:55.920
way be recycled. There is nothing clean about this. That

1829
01:44:55.979 --> 01:44:59.199
puts aside the whole matter of extraction, how you get

1830
01:44:59.260 --> 01:45:02.720
to wind turbines and solar panels and batteries to begin

1831
01:45:02.800 --> 01:45:07.970
with by mining in places like Central Africa and China,

1832
01:45:08.390 --> 01:45:11.829
where there are zero environmental standards worthy of the name

1833
01:45:12.050 --> 01:45:12.550
in place.

1834
01:45:12.989 --> 01:45:16.449
Yeah, just kill those countries environmentally, right?

1835
01:45:16.810 --> 01:45:17.890
They have to be dumped.

1836
01:45:18.529 --> 01:45:18.670
Yeah.

1837
01:45:19.289 --> 01:45:21.470
Well, that's incredible. Well, you know, and you think if

1838
01:45:21.520 --> 01:45:24.420
we'd have taken that money and kept it, you know,

1839
01:45:24.460 --> 01:45:27.579
put it in nuclear, you know, like China. I mean,

1840
01:45:27.619 --> 01:45:30.560
that's why China exploded. I mean, they just took full advantage.

1841
01:45:30.960 --> 01:45:34.220
And here we are running a similar pattern with, you know,

1842
01:45:34.260 --> 01:45:37.590
these data centers and AI, you know, potentially. I mean,

1843
01:45:37.619 --> 01:45:41.130
we're revisiting, you know, that mistake. And look what China

1844
01:45:41.149 --> 01:45:43.699
said yesterday. Thank you very much. And they've been running

1845
01:45:43.760 --> 01:45:47.619
away with nuclear development. And meanwhile, we've got all these

1846
01:45:47.680 --> 01:45:51.140
environmentalists saying, oh, you can't do that. And now others

1847
01:45:51.220 --> 01:45:54.460
are saying, man, what a missed opportunity here. And maybe

1848
01:45:54.479 --> 01:45:55.279
it's not too late.

1849
01:45:56.520 --> 01:45:56.979
That's right.

1850
01:45:57.000 --> 01:46:00.600
By the way, China is not only investing a lot

1851
01:46:00.619 --> 01:46:03.760
of money in nuclear, but of course, to power everything,

1852
01:46:03.819 --> 01:46:08.430
they still rely very heavily on coal. They have not

1853
01:46:08.689 --> 01:46:11.189
turned their back on coal at all because China has

1854
01:46:11.229 --> 01:46:13.250
a lot of coal, doesn't have as much as we have,

1855
01:46:13.270 --> 01:46:16.260
but they still have a lot. They have a demand

1856
01:46:16.420 --> 01:46:22.159
for energy 24-7, 365. And even though they put a

1857
01:46:22.220 --> 01:46:25.489
lot of investment in wind and solar too, they're not

1858
01:46:25.550 --> 01:46:33.569
stupid enough to become completely reliant on that. And so

1859
01:46:33.710 --> 01:46:39.439
for that, they need relatively affordable and reliable energy. By

1860
01:46:39.460 --> 01:46:43.520
the way, they don't care about environmental standards. So they're

1861
01:46:43.539 --> 01:46:48.010
putting up brand spanking new coal power plants all over

1862
01:46:48.050 --> 01:46:52.300
the place in addition to supplying the world. with the

1863
01:46:52.359 --> 01:46:56.960
components that go into wind turbines and solar panels and

1864
01:46:57.979 --> 01:47:00.710
the materials that go into the batteries to back up

1865
01:47:00.810 --> 01:47:01.670
the wind and solar panels.

1866
01:47:01.789 --> 01:47:05.489
Exactly, right. Well, another topic I wanted to discuss with

1867
01:47:05.510 --> 01:47:09.810
you was the landmark Supreme Court wetlands ruling. And you

1868
01:47:09.840 --> 01:47:11.579
wrote about that, Dr. Cohen.

1869
01:47:11.720 --> 01:47:14.479
Yeah, and this is something we need to pay attention to.

1870
01:47:15.039 --> 01:47:18.500
A lot of people who live in rural areas throughout

1871
01:47:18.560 --> 01:47:23.590
the United States have found themselves on the receiving end

1872
01:47:24.369 --> 01:47:30.670
of some very confusing wetland policies administered by EPA and

1873
01:47:30.689 --> 01:47:34.289
the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers going all the way

1874
01:47:34.350 --> 01:47:41.880
back to 1972 simply because the language spelling out where

1875
01:47:42.149 --> 01:47:47.840
federal jurisdiction begins and ends with respect to private land,

1876
01:47:48.239 --> 01:47:53.859
is very loosey-goosey. And that has forced landowners around the

1877
01:47:53.899 --> 01:48:03.890
country to defend themselves against allegations that a stockpond or

1878
01:48:04.069 --> 01:48:12.979
a drainage ditch on their property constitutes a functioning regulation

1879
01:48:13.460 --> 01:48:17.750
by EPA or by the Army Corps of Engineers. Well, finally,

1880
01:48:17.810 --> 01:48:21.149
a couple of years ago, the US Supreme Court, in

1881
01:48:21.199 --> 01:48:28.850
a landmark decision, sacked the EPA, slapped very strict restrictions

1882
01:48:29.720 --> 01:48:34.880
on what these agencies can do. They demanded there be

1883
01:48:35.039 --> 01:48:40.680
a continuous surface flow from whatever body of water there

1884
01:48:40.720 --> 01:48:45.359
may be on your property to a navigable water of

1885
01:48:45.390 --> 01:48:49.390
the United States, meaning a bay, a river, a large lake,

1886
01:48:49.409 --> 01:48:56.710
or what have you. Nevertheless, despite that decision, The U.S.

1887
01:48:56.930 --> 01:49:01.770
Army Corps of Engineers in two cases has completely ignored that,

1888
01:49:01.909 --> 01:49:06.380
which means that the career people there are behaving as

1889
01:49:06.479 --> 01:49:10.260
if nothing had happened. And they recently put a stop

1890
01:49:10.800 --> 01:49:16.810
to a housing development north of Salt Lake City. A

1891
01:49:16.840 --> 01:49:22.000
developer wanted to put in 245 new home sites in

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one of the fastest growing real estate markets in the country.

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Along comes the Army Corps of Engineers and says your

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drainage ditch is subject to regulation under the Clean Water Act.

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Never mind that said drainage ditch has no continuous surface

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flow to the nearest navigable water, which is the Great

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Salt Lake. So this shows how important it is. a

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final rule on this, which is going to tighten things

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up even more. Because if you leave federal bureaucrats in

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Washington to their own devices, they will behave as if

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absolutely nothing had happened because they love to throw their

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weight around and tell landowners around the country what they

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can and cannot do on their own property.

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Are they looking for a handout there, a little bit

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of graft or something?

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Certainly the environmental groups who are working hand in glove

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with these federal bureaucrats, which they have been doing for decades,

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want to show their donors that they're still waving the

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flag here and still trying to shut down as much

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farming and ranching and other private property ownership as they can.

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And for that, they've had a very warm and fuzzy

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relationship with federal bureaucrats. exactly what the Sackett decision was

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designed to shut down and actually should have. But as

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I said, lo and behold, if you don't pay real

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close attention to what federal bureaucrats are doing, and quite frankly,

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the Trump administration's people at the U.S. Army Corps of

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Engineers appear to have been asleep at the wheel on

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this and allowed it to happen. they're going to continue

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business as usual.

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Of course.

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We need to keep our eye on this because it

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entailed a tremendous amount of interference in our own property rights,

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what you can and cannot do on property that you

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have bought, paid for, and on which you pay property taxes.

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And then you have to defend yourself against absolutely ridiculous

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allegations that from, in this case, the U.S. Army Corps

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of Engineers.

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Talk about it.

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You have a land on your property that you don't.

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Exactly.

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Dealing with unelected bureaucrats. Oh, how much fun. We've got

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to leave it there for now.

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Dr.

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Bonner Cohen, the Senior Policy Analyst in the Committee for

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