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0:01 Are you ready? Yeah. Okay, let's do it. Bill Martinez Live, a program about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and our future. And now, Bill Martinez. Hey, good morning. Good to have you with us. Bill Martinez here, and Rabbi Jonathan Cahn is going to be joining us in just a few moments. His brand new book, The Altar of Pergamon, The Mystery of the Dark Angel and the Future of the World. So get ready. Put on your helmets and your seatbelts because we're in for an exciting ride. Rabbi, good to have you with us. Always great to be with you, Bill. Well, just a little bit of background. If you don't mind, I'm going to brag on you for just a moment.

0:43 Rabbi Jonathan Cahn has caused worldwide stir with the release of his explosive first book, The Harbinger, which became an instant New York Times bestseller, brought him to national and international prominence. Every one of his books since then has become a New York Times bestseller, including The Mystery of the Shemitah, The Book of Mysteries, The Paradigm, The Oracle, Harbinger II, The Return of the Gods, Josiah Manifesto, Dragon's Prophecy, and The Avatar. Each one opens up deep or long-hidden mysteries that are unfolding and manifesting in our time. He has spoken at the United Nations on Capitol Hill, to members of Congress, to millions around the world. And suffice it to say, when the rabbi speaks, people listen. Jonathan, good to have you with us.

1:30 Always, it's always a blessing, Bill. And when you speak, people listen too. But I'll tell you, Jonathan, it's just, you know, every time you come on and with every revelation, I mean, you have no idea what an answer to prayer you've become in my life. Because when I came out of Bible college and felt like God was calling me back behind the microphone, because I'd been behind the microphone as a juvenile playing records and taking dedications and doing that sort of thing as a radio personality in Los Angeles. But after Bible college, God says, no, I want you behind the microphone again. And I want you to focus on a biblical worldview and pursuit of the truth. And I said, okay, where am I going to find that?

2:16 Because I had already been given information that many of the senior pastors in the churches today, I think at that time, according to George Barna, was down to about only 56% held to a biblical worldview. And that was, what, about 20 years ago. And it's been declining since. So when you came into my life, it was like, ha, I mean, You were an answer to prayer because what I was also looking for, and I said, God, how about revelation? I want to feel like I'm talking to somebody who's been in the throne room with you and has gotten direct revelation that the people need to hear for a time such as this. And here comes Rabbi Jonathan Cahn.

3:01 Oh, well, thank you, Bill. You know, I'm really blessed. I'm blessed to hear, you know, what you're saying. If it can be of an encouragement, thank you. I'm very honored. Well, God has used you for this time. And, you know, again, starting with the Harbinger and what you did with the Harbinger, how you revealed mysteries and unfolded in Isaiah 9. I mean, it was just phenomenal what you did. And it was no wonder why that book became an instant New York Times bestseller. And you've been on a roll ever since. And it's just like, you know, God is continuing to speak to you, through you, to reveal to us things that are so critical for these, as even Billy Graham would say, are the last of the last days.

3:46 Yeah. Well, you know, there's no end to God. There's no end to his revelation. We just have to be open. You know, I'm honored. I'm the first one, Bill, to be blown away. You know, I'm the first one to say, wow, Lord. And on one hand, I'm not surprised because he never disappoints. There's always more. But on the other hand, I'm still blown away. Lord, you're amazing. Right. Well, give us the background to The Altar of Pergamon. Yeah, this is, you know, this is the 11th book, Bill. And I think I've been on with you with every book, you know. Yes, exactly. Yes. And this is a colossal, colossal, gigantic mystery that's so big, it's literally altered everything. the history of the world, not once, but again and again. Could there be this mystery and an object? I mean, it almost sounds like Indiana Jones or it sounds like Lord of the Rings or Da Vinci Code, but it's real. And could there be this object linked to behind everything from the rise of Adolf Hitler The World War I, World War II, the rise of Marxism, communism, the Cold War, the one world order we're seeing, globalization, what we're seeing happening in America, the apostasy.

5:01 and the West, even the internet is linked to it. Could there be even an American leader who is linked to this thing called the throne of Satan here? And the answer is there is. And in fact, this mystery, I mean, it's so big that it has literally impacted everybody who's watching right now. Your life has been impacted by this. And I'll just tell you one thing before we get into the the actual mystery, is I was led to write it as I did the Harbinger with a story to make it easy to just like, you don't even realize it and you're getting, you know, but what's revealed is real. The story part, I'm doing it that not only to get the revelation out, but also that people can give it to their unsaved people, loved ones and people in their life. Because people will say, oh.

5:50 Wow, cool. It doesn't matter where they're at. Like, oh, wow, is it cool? It's like Indiana Jones, like Da Vinci. And it's going to lead to salvation. So that's my hope as well, to get in getting this mystery out, not only for God's people, but they can get it to get their people saved. Well, you know, when you said that, you know, that you did wrap it in a story, because as I was reading this, that's what I thought of Harbinger. you know, it was of that kind of same genre and that writing style that's very comfortable and the way you bring it and it adds life to it as opposed to just saying, well, here's, let me just give you the nuts and bolts, you know, right? Yeah, yeah. And I think, you know, I think that, you know, I think actually this, I don't know how far you got in it. I'm really glad that you started. Oh, no.

6:36 But the thing is that I think there's more story in this than I've ever had. And also, but at the same time, there's more revelation because when we looked at this, I think there's like at least 200 mysteries that are going to be unfolded in the Altar of Pergamon. And for those who don't know, the subtitle, just to give you a little taste of it, it's the mystery of the dark angel and the future of the world. And so this is unveiling it, but it's through this man who is a skeptic who comes across this ancient, this page of this cryptic, book, and he has to go across the world to journey to unlock it with someone else, with a woman who's actually a believer. And there's danger, and there's all that mystery, but it's ultimately leading, not only it's opening the mystery, it's leading the reader to salvation if they don't know the Lord.

7:30 Right, exactly. So the altar of Pergamon, its actual reveal, what does it reveal? Yeah. Well, it's that, and it begins with, in Isaiah, he quotes Satan saying, I will exalt my throne. I'll lift up my throne. I'll be like God. Well, in Revelation, it's the other place that talks about the throne of Satan. And it says in Pergamon, it says to the church of Pergamon, it says where the throne of Satan is. Now that's pretty strong. I mean, there's a place on earth with the throne of Satan. So what's that about? Well, I just came back from Pergamon. I've never been there in my life. Um, and they have a high place of Pergamon and on the high place is, was called the great altar. And this was almost like, it's like, it was almost like the epitome of the, of the pagan world. It was an altar to the king of the gods, Zeus, but that's, you know, Satan's behind all that. Um, and it was really, it really embodied, it was the, it was the biggest altar the Greeks ever built on earth.

8:33 It's gigantic. Um, and the thing is throne of Satan, The gospel comes into the world. People start abandoning the pagan world. They abandon the throne. The throne of Satan or the altar of Pergamon falls into ruins. And it's buried for almost 2,000 years. But what would happen if someone would come there and start uncovering the throne of Satan? And the thing is, it happened. It happened. And when it happened, what happens is that things start happening and changing in the world. Well, stay right there. We've got more from Jonathan Cahn after this. A new study finds a major increase in STEM learning in after-school programs, but gaps remain. Today, 92% of parents with children in after-school say STEM is available, up from 69% a decade ago. That's 6.4 million kids now getting STEM in after-school. Emma Binet, Overdeck Family Foundation.

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14:26 So Germany is going to have, is going to be linked to them. I think about this. I mean, Think ahead, you know, Germany. Okay. Now, now the thing is that people don't know Germany didn't even exist. Germany only came into the world as a nation in 1871, 1871 is the year that the throne of Satan came back into the world. So, so at the same moment, the, all the, the, the altar comes back, Germany comes into the world and Germany is going to be used as, as, as we're going to see. Right. Well, exactly. And as we, as we recall, Certainly how in two world wars, right? Oh, everything. You know, yeah. I mean, this, this thing and more than that. I mean, yes. And, and, and not just Germany, Berlin, where they're, where the throne of Satan is going to be moved to. So, I mean, and that it's behind everything. I mean, it's, it's, we're going to see that.

15:21 Yes. So, so what happens is not only say something else at the same time, that the altar, that first pieces go back, 1871. Another German is digging in the same region, and he's searching for the lost city of Troy. His name was Heinrich Schliemann. And he comes across an ancient sign. He comes across about 2,000 versions of this ancient sign. And this ancient sign becomes a sensation. And in Germany particularly, what sign was it? It was the swastika. The swastika came into the world in this mass form at the same moment that the throne of Satan came back into the world and Germany came into the world. It's all like a setup for what's going to happen.

16:07 So when you say that this sign, and this was a literal sign that was dug up. Almost 2,000 swastikas in stone, in engravings. Yeah, the swastika is an ancient sign. It's a pagan sign, ancient, but it's unearthed as the altar is, as the throne of Satan is. What was the origination? I mean, you're talking a sign now, fast forward 2,000 years, and all of a sudden now you've got hundreds of swastikas that come out of this digging. What was the origination of the swastika? The swastika is an ancient symbol. I mean, similar, listen, similar is the cross. I mean, you know, people were making crosses because this is basic. But swastika was an ancient pagan or occultic symbol that you find in India.

16:59 But you also find it, I mean, in pagan lands. You find it among the Greeks. You find it among... the Nordic or Germanic peoples. So it's this ancient pagan sign that becomes the sign of demonic, of satanic work. I was going to say, was there a demonic connection to it? Well, it's pagan, number one, and occultic. Yeah. So then that would, because it's anti-God. Yeah, totally. And, I mean, some people make note that the swastika is a broken cross. It's a cross that's been broken on edge. Well, the thing is that, now, that's in 1871. A few years later, Germany comes to Pergamon to actually dig up the throne of Satan and take it.

17:47 Now, did they understand it as the throne of Satan at that time? I don't think so. I don't think most of them were reading their Bible. I think they took it simply... Well, first of all, when the guy, his name was Karl Humann, sends the pieces to Germany, the first pieces... He doesn't even know what it is. Soon they realize it's the altar of Pergamon because the ancient world speaks about that altar. Yes, right. But they still are not getting that this is the throne of Satan. You know, this is linked to Satan and Revelation. And so if they knew that, would they have done this? I don't know. But they dig it up. And, you know, it takes a few years to dig it up. And this is again, like Indiana Jones. They put the pieces in crates. They put them on animals. Then they go, they put them onto ships and the ships sail across the sea. They go to Germany. They put them on trains.

18:38 They go to Berlin. So now they've moved. They all think about it. I mean, the throne of Satan has moved from Pergamon to Berlin, Germany. Okay. And now the thing is that the, that's 1878 when they start digging it up. 1878, 79 is when the first pieces come to Germany. So the amazing thing is something else comes to Germany. You know, one people, the devil hates all of God's people, but the devil has a special hatred for the Jewish people because he knows, you know. Yes, right. God called them into being to fulfill his purposes, bring the Bible, bring Messiah, bring the kingdom which will come. So the enemy is going to try to destroy them, of course. I mean, it makes perfect sense. And so something happens in Germany when the throne of Satan gets to Germany. And what happens, the same moment, this is 1878, 1879, the same moment it comes to Germany, a word comes into the world, and the word is anti-Semitism. First time, it didn't exist before. The anti-Semitism has always been hatred, but anti-Semitism is a modern manifestation, a movement. And it comes in, it's born in the land, when the altar comes to Germany, it's born in Germany, and it's born at the exact moment. And so it spreads throughout Germany.

19:53 And something else, you were alluding to this, but when the altar came to Germany, there was an occult explosion or revival that spreads across Germany. People don't realize that. It was actually setting the stage for Hitler. And speaking of which, let me... I'll put it this way. It's kind of like a nation was possessed. I mean, when you look at what happened to Germany, and you say, how did they do that? Why did they go crazy over this? It's like a possession of a nation. Because what was Germany like before this, though? They were very intellectual. They were prosperous. It was. You know, here they were, they were really leaders in so many ways, weren't they Rabbi?

20:36 Yeah. And listen, the reformation came from Germany, right? So you, you have the revive, the restoring of the Bible, the focus on the Bible. Uh, but now they're at a point 19th century, uh, they're turning, you know, and you're, they're opening the door because when you turn from the gospel, you open the door. And by the way, you know, it also came from Germany and this is after the reformation higher criticism. which was to criticize the Bible and try to say the Bible is not the word of God. So they opened the door, you know, and, and so, and now they have the throne of Satan and, you know, so it's, it's, so it's like they put the ones who possess the throne of Satan get possessed by it. Yeah. And in 1889, something happens. Well, just before they start deciding, Germany says, we're going to put, we're going to piece together the throne, the altar, we're going to put it together.

21:25 Because it came in pieces, came in thousands of pieces. So kind of in secret, they start piecing it together. And so for the first time in 2,000 years, the altar, the throne of Satan, appears back in the world, 1889. At the same moment, something else appears in the world. A child is born, and he's given the name Adolf Hitler. Hitler comes into the world with the throne of Satan. I mean, you can't make this up. And his whole life is going to be joined to the mystery of the throne of Satan from birth to death. I mean, the whole thing. So everything's being put, set in motion.

22:07 So here they are. And again, Pergamon is in Turkey, right? It's modern-day Turkey. So it moves to Germany, Berlin, and. It's amazing because this is the thing that we see in every kind of movement of God. There's always a counter movement, isn't there? Yes. Yes. Yes. That's a great point. Yeah. And for every counter movement, God does a redemption movement. Right. So, yeah. Yeah. You know, the enemy uses the things of God also to try to turn them away from their purpose, you know. And the, and God takes the things that the enemy uses and he turns them for good. I mean, so you got that, but yes, there is. And so you, so yeah, Germany was used to bring the word to the world, to the reformation. And so it's going to be used to try to destroy the people of the word, which is the Jewish people, you know? So, yeah.

22:59 And so what Germany does is they said they're going to build a house for the altar. It's kind of like every altar, you know, an altar had a temple. Well, they're going to build a massive museum, which is just pretty much, it's named after the altar. And it starts rising in the 1920s. They're going to reveal it to the world. They're going to open it up to the world. Well, at the same moment, something else starts rising up. It's Adolf Hitler and the Nazis in the 1920s. This is Bill Martinez. We're live and we're talking with Jonathan Cahn, his brand new book, The Altar of Pergamon. We've got more from Jonathan. Stay with us. Individuals and businesses with tax problems listen carefully do you feel like you're losing control of your finances if you owe over ten thousand dollars in back taxes or have unfiled tax returns we can help you take back control the irs is the largest and most aggressive collection agency in the world and they can seize your bank accounts, garnish your paycheck, close your business, and file criminal charges.

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27:30 Yeah, so the thing is that at that, you know, what happens is that, so in 1928, the Nazis have a setback. They win only 2% of the vote. Okay, that's okay. It looks like they're gone. But in 1930, the altar is revealed to the world. They open up that museum. They reveal it. They pieced it totally together for the world. And at that moment, this is autumn of 1930, at that moment, Hitler suddenly is catapulted He is catapulted from the number two, from the two percent. Now they're the number two party in Germany. And then they're number one. And then he takes over. So with the altar. And you know the day that they opened up the altar to the world? You know what the day was? It was Yom Kippur, the holiest day in the Bible. Which is, it's like the enemy takes the things of God. And Yom Kippur is about the altar of God. And it's about salvation. And so instead now it's the altar of Satan, which is not going to save the Jewish people. It's going to be, it's a warning.

28:28 It's going to go to destroying them. So, yeah. So how much awareness, again, is this is developing and they're piecing it together. I mean, we know after everything was all said and done, Germany was in a sense possessed, only about 10% of Germany was possessed by the Nazis. And they controlled, 10% covered Germany. you know, control, 90%, right? Is that fair? It may be. Now, I don't need, I have to look at the things, but it may be something like 10% may have been actually members of the Nazi. Right, exactly. That's right. But people, yeah, but Germany is, but when you look at those crowds, I mean, look at the crowds of Germans. They were, I'm not saying everyone, there were those who resisted, but they were, they were, you know, a set, a remnant, but most were caught up. Most were caught up in it.

29:17 Well, and that's, so as this is developing, now here we're in the early 1930s, and now you have the rebuilt, the coming together of the throne of Satan. I mean, did they understand, Jonathan, did they understand what they had done, what they were doing here? I don't think so, because, I mean, maybe some did, but I don't think so, because remember, Germany is now turning away from God in a big way. It's turning to a pagan movement, which are the Nazis. And the Nazis, we know they hated the Jews, but they also hated the church. They couldn't say it as publicly, but Hitler wanted to destroy Christianity. Um, and it was a pagan movement. So, but so they weren't really reading their Bibles to say that they, if they did, they would say, wait a minute, wait a minute. You know, this is the center of Pergamon throne of Satan. Now it's okay. Now it's Berlin. Now, by the way, here's another thing that happened. Another German guy goes to Turkey where the altar had been and the foundation is still there. Um, and instead of what he brings back from Turkey is he brings back an occultic revelation and he comes back to bring a cultic revelation to Germany. He starts an organization, an occult society called the Thule Society. This occult society, the Thule Society, decides to start a little party. That little party becomes the Nazi Party. It was born of the occult. Born of an occult society. So that's all there. So now Hitler takes over. 1933, he becomes chancellor. Takes over. He commissioned...

30:48 Go ahead. No, my thought was, as this is coming out, I mean, we already have what, in 1848, you've got Darwinism coming in the scene too, which exacerbated the anti-God movement and which dovetailed, end up dovetailing. And Adolf Hitler, I was told, supported Darwinism. Oh, the idea of the master race, meaning master race and the survival of the fittest. We're going to destroy the weak. I mean, yeah, it was very Darwinian. Yeah, and by the way, 1848 is also the year of revolutions, socialist revolutions, which is another thing we're going to see as linked to the altar. is Marxism, and we're having a revival of socialism, and we're having a revival of antisemitism, and all these things are linked to the throne of Satan and the altar. So yes, all these things open the door, and they open the door for him. Yes, it's not in a vacuum. So Hitler, when he comes to power, he commissions his architect, a guy named Albert Speer, to build him this massive podium, a colossal where he could speak to the masses. When you see Hitler... speaking to like looks like it's a million people it's nuremberg that's where they had the rallies and that's where he's going to be standing on this massive thing well the guy builds it for him and that and and you know what he and he and the guy albert spear i found in his writings he admits he built that that podium for hitler massive uh it was a reproduction of the altar of pergamon so hitler is standing when

32:23 you see hitler he's standing on the throne of satan and he's invoking destruction. That's the will of Satan. Now let me go even deeper, if it's okay. No, please. I mean, this is mind-blowing because here you are and you're thinking, this happened all, you know, 100 years ago. And you are revealing this mystery and saying, here it is. I mean, you got the altar of Pergamon, Satan's throne, and now here's Adolf Hitler standing there Standing right there on the throne of Satan. Yeah. And the one who was born with the altar.

33:04 He was born with the throne of Satan coming into the world. Now he's standing on this massive, colossal reproduction. And so now here's another mystery. The altar of Pergamon was not just an altar. It was an altar of burnt offerings. Burnt. Burnt. Okay. So now in the language of the Greeks who built the altar, and they didn't call it the altar of burnt offerings. The way you say it in Greek is the word for burnt is kaustos, and the word for completely burnt is holos. It becomes the word Holocaust. Holocaust, yes. The altar was the altar of the Holocaust from the beginning. The moment the pieces come to Germany, that was the plan.

33:46 It was an altar of the Holocaust. And so the enemy is taking something. Now, here's the thing. The word Holocaust actually appears in the Bible. And I'll tell you what, in the first translation, which is the Septuagint, the Greek, which the new Testament uses the ancient, ancient, when it gets to things like when God says to Abraham, offer up your son, he said in the Septuagint as a Holocaust. So here you have the whole Jewish nation is inside Isaac and it's, it could, it's going to be offered up, saved by a lamb. Okay. And so now, and then, then when you read Leviticus in the ancient translation, it says, these are the laws of the Holocaust. The fire will always be burning and you'll have ashes. And the thing is, what the Nazis did is it was Satan taking something holy, a sacrifice, and turning it to satanic purposes. Instead of saving Jewish people, the sacrifice saved them. He's destroying them with a thing. He's taking it and he's making it demonic.

34:51 Holocaust doesn't mean a disaster. Holocaust literally means a sacrifice, a burnt offering sacrifice. That's what's happening. This is satanic. And by the way, when I told you that the altar was revealed to the world in Germany in 1930, it was on Yom Kippur. The scripture that they were reading, that Jewish people were reading on Yom Kippur in the Septuagint has the word Holocaust four times. So when the altar comes in, they're speaking about the Holocaust. It's like a warning. And let me go even further. The Bible says that the altar of burnt offerings, or the altar of the Holocaust, was in the holy place. There's actually a scripture that says the altar of burnt offerings was in the holy place. Well, when you take, we already saw the word for the altar of burnt offerings was Holocaust.

35:43 What about the word for holy place? There's a word in German called, that speaks of a place called holy or the holy place. The word is Auschwitz. Auschwitz means the holy place. So you have the Holocaust in Auschwitz, the burn in the holy place. And so it's the devil's offering. He's taken the thing that's gone and he's twisting it all. And you know what the last sacrifice was? You know who the high priest was over the Holocaust? It was Adolf Hitler. He's the one who did it. And so at the end, when the devil's through with him, can't use him anymore, He's destroyed. He kills himself. Same hand. He offers himself. And then he says that he orders that his body be burnt as a burnt offering. I mean, he's just burnt. And so the last sacrifice of the Holocaust is Adolf Hitler himself. That's the last Holocaust is the burnt offering of him. And now to set the stage for when we go to the next program, because there's so much coming, because it's going to come up to right now here, behind everything. But the thing is this.

36:43 So Hitler was the owner, the possessor of the altar. He dies. So the altar doesn't have any possessor. That lasts for one day. One day. And then the altar is going to move from his hands, Germany, to the hands of another. And when it moves to the other, history is going to change again. How would you like to save money on nearly all your prescription drugs? We've set up a special toll-free number for the RxOutreach program. They're a nonprofit company whose mission it is to make prescription drugs more affordable to the masses. They don't take insurance, and in many cases, your prescriptions are even cheaper than your co-pays. They carry thousands of different prescription drugs, so whatever you're taking, there's a good chance they have it. No coupons are required, and this is not a discount card.

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41:25 So in this final 12 minutes together, Rabbi. We'll go ahead and, you know, go through and pick it up from where we are. Now it moves, it changes hands within a 24-hour period, right? Yes, yes. And when it changes hands, It's going to change history. Now a new power is going to receive the throne of Satan and it's going to affect our lives. In fact, I could say for sure it's affected all of our lives. We were born or I was born under these things happening. So this has all affected our life and we'll open that up to where we are and where we are now and where it's going in the future and all that. If I could just say it, the book is everywhere. So if you just go online now or go to Amazon or any place online, You'll see it, the Altar of Pergamon, and any bookstore will have it as soon as it, and the other thing, but I just, again, don't just get it for yourself.

42:17 Get copies for people in your life because it's a story. It's going to draw them in, and it leads to salvation and how real God is. Yes, amen. Okay, so now it's changed hands, and as you said, we have been living under this all our lives, our lives. Our current lives, I mean, right? Well, everything, yeah. I don't know, Bill, I don't know when you were born, so I'm not going to ask how much of the mystery. You've been in. 1950, I'll tell you. Okay, okay. So you were, okay, you know, see, if there's something, okay, so here's the thing. The altar, this is what happens. By the way, how much time do we have? We have two programs, right? Yeah, well, we can, you know, we'll keep on going.

42:58 Okay, okay, all right. All right. Okay, let's go. All right, so. The thing is, there's so much, I'm just giving a taste, but still there's so much. So Hitler's in a bunker in Germany and he kills himself in that bunker. In another bunker in Berlin, the Nazis are hiding something else. They're hiding the throne of Satan in the other bunker. So you got Hitler in one bunker, the throne of Satan in another bunker. The soldiers are coming through Berlin and they come upon this bunker and they open it up and inside they see it's the throne of Satan. So they take it, they possess it. And the altar changes hands. So who is it that has it now?

43:42 The soldiers were the soldiers of the Red Army. Now the Soviet Union possesses the throne of Satan. They take the throne of Satan. So now the center of evil in the world moves from Nazi Germany to to the Soviet Union and communism. And that's exactly what happens. And we didn't realize this. You know, say growing up with the Cold War, didn't realize that they actually possessed the throne of Satan the whole time. You know, so I mean, you know, it's crazy. And so where did they put the throne? I mean, here they take it. Where did they put it? In a crate? Yes. Okay. First, it's in Berlin for a little while. Then Moscow orders, they take it, they put it in crates, just as you said. They put it on trains and they take it to the Soviet Union, Russia. Soviet Union now possesses, has the throne of Satan. And what happens to the Soviet Union? All of a sudden it goes from power to superpower. It was only one nation that was communist, but once they have the throne of Satan, it's like a dark anointing. Communism spreads, takes over all of Eastern Europe, takes over China. takes over one third, one third of every person on earth is living under communism, you know, at the top. And at that moment, the living under communism, when they have the throne of Satan, you know, so all this, and what was coming to every power that gets the throne of Satan, the altar,

45:12 they end up, they, they hate the Jewish people. They hate Christians, the church, they hate Israel. I mean, they become enemies of it just like Satan is. But the story is even deeper because even before that happened, communism was already linked to the throne of Satan. Just quick things. Karl Marx. First of all, where's he from? Germany. Germany, the land that's going to be of the altar. Germany. And he grows up actually knowing about Jesus. And when he's 17, he writes a devotion to Jesus. But then when he's 18, they send him to Berlin, the place where Satan's throne is going to be, and he transforms. And he starts writing strange verses as if Satan was speaking through him. He says, I will exalt my throne.

46:00 This is Karl Marx. It's not Satan. I will exalt my throne. I will bring the world to destruction. And I will walk as a god among the runes. And I have a sword that the prince of darkness gave me. This is Karl Marx. He says, all that exists deserves to be destroyed. Karl Marx. Okay. Karl Marx writes the manifesto. Nobody reads it. Karl Marx is going to be a has-been. We would never have heard his name. Time has passed him by. But except something happens that resurrects Marxism. It would have been dead. You know what it was? It was the altar of Pergamon. Remember I said the altar comes to Germany? At the moment those pieces first come to Germany, at that moment, Marxism is suddenly resurrected in Germany. And the Communist Manifesto was reissued, goes to the world, becomes the number two bestseller under the Bible. And now at the same moment of the altar in Germany, same moment it comes, the Marxism goes to Russia. And when they were starting to dig up the altar, the moment they're putting their shovels and they're digging up, another child is born with the altar.

47:07 His name is Joseph Stalin. He's also born with the altar. And the whole, I mean, you know, remember I told you that when they pieced together the altar in 1889 and all of a sudden Hitler is born, okay? Same moment, they're piecing it together, something happens that's going to change the world. Lenin... comes into Marx, comes in the same moment. Lenin picks up Marx, and the rest is history. The red flag of communism happens in the same year, 1889. Everything happens when they do this. So there's all sorts of history, but the thing is that, to this, which you can't get into, but the thing is that So now the altar has come to Russia, to the Soviet Union.

47:50 And who's over it? Joseph Stalin, who was born with the altar. Every one of those two children who were born with the altar, they become the masters of the altar at the right time. So now, why do we call the devil the devil? We call him the devil because it comes from the word diabolos. Diabolus means the one who divides, who divides. So the devil's a divider because if he can divide, he can destroy. If he can divide, he can conquer and destroy. So what happens to the world when the Soviet Union gets the altar? What happens is the world is divided into two camps, each with a power to destroy the world. So this mystery is even behind the Cold War. What was the Cold War, which we were born under? It was the side that had the throne of Satan versus the side that was against that. That was it.

48:45 Yeah, good and evil, right there. Yeah, as much as it could be, it was. And all by that, whoever has the throne. I mean, this part, it sounds like the Lord of the Rings. You know, you have this evil object, you know, that's changing. So, all right. So now what happens is the Soviet Union in 1958, decides to send the altar back to its puppet, East Germany, East Berlin. It still possesses it, it's still over it, its troops are in East Berlin, but the location has changed for political reasons. As soon as they move it back, they move it back in 1958, all of a sudden Berlin, and you might remember something, Berlin becomes a center of crisis between the Cold War. Berlin was the main thing. And the Soviet Union and America almost come to war over Berlin. And when did the Berlin crisis begin? November 1958. When did the altar arrive in Berlin? November 1958. This crisis keeps going until you have John Kennedy and Khrushchev of the Soviet Union. They meet in 1961. Khrushchev demands all of Berlin. America says no.

50:02 Khrushchev builds the wall, the Berlin Wall. At the wall, at Checkpoint Charlie... there comes a massive Berlin crisis. That puts, on one side of the wall, you have Soviet soldiers armed in tanks. On the other side, you have American soldiers, first time ever, they're ready, both sides are preparing for nuclear war in that crisis. And right in the middle of it is the altar, the throne of Satan, the altar there. Now, we get past it, but now is the most, well, before that, the devil wants to destroy the world. He's a destroyer. He's a divider. He's a destroyer. He divides the world so he can destroy it. But you can only do that if you have the power to destroy it. So what's the power to destroy it?

50:46 Nuclear destruction. So when did, could that, could even that be linked to the mystery and the altar of Pergamon? Well, it is. Here's the thing. What kind of altar was it? The altar of burnt offerings. It totally burns up. Totally. Well, and how do you say that in Greek? Holocaust. Well, when you were, the Holocaust is only used for two things. What happened with Hitler and when we say nuclear holocaust. That's it. Both holocausts came from the altar. When did that power come into the world? We say, well, New Mexico, America. No. It came into the world at the throne of Satan in Berlin. It came in the world in 1938 when two German scientists split the atom under Adolf Hitler. Hitler almost had it. And that's the plan of the enemy.

51:35 Imagine if he got it. By a miracle, God kept him from getting it, largely because he persecuted the Jewish people and Jewish scientists went to America. That's really the grace of God. So now, bringing it back, you got the two powers divided, the world divided. We all grew up under it. You got power and nuclear destruction, and then you have the most dangerous moment in world history. When was it? It was the Cuban Missile Crisis. And what happens is, and you probably remember some of it. Oh, I am. Oh, yeah. By the way, speaking of personal stuff, my father grew up, was born in Germany, and he grew up under Hitler. Oh, wow. And he just escaped with his life. He got out on a train to get out. That's why I only exist because he got out. Yeah, exactly. But it's touched all of us. It doesn't matter who you are. So 1962, the Soviet Union puts missiles in Cuba. America discovers it.

52:28 Kennedy quarantines Cuba. American ships in the water. Soviet ships are coming with more missiles. The world prepares for nuclear destruction, literally. I mean, we would have been, if by one hair it could have destroyed, we wouldn't be here today. And the thing is that people are in bomb shelters. They're putting dog tags on their children. And by a miracle, we get past it. But here's the thing. The secret story was this. It wasn't about Cuba. What happened, the real beginning was Khrushchev was by the Black Sea. And they pointed out to him that America had missiles on the other side of the sea aimed at Russia. He said, okay, we're putting missiles in Cuba right by their doorstep. So the missiles that almost brought the world to destruction weren't the missiles in Cuba. They were missiles on the other side of the Black Sea. So where were they? What were the missiles that almost destroyed the world? They were all standing in the land of Pergamon, the throne of Satan.

53:21 They were all in the ancient kingdom of Pergamon, every one of them. And, and, you know, remember the altar of Pergamon is linked to Zeus, you know, Satan, Zeus, Jupiter. The missiles bore the name of the god Jupiter on them. That almost destroyed the world. This is Bill Martinez. We're live and we're talking with Jonathan Cahn, his brand new book, The Altar of Pergamon. We've got more from Jonathan. Stay with us. Every 40 seconds, a child disappears. That's 2,000 children every single day. Find the Children is a non-profit organization fighting to bring them home. But we can't do it without you. Your unwanted car, running or not, can help find missing kids, reunite families, and support the search and rescue efforts that protect children every day. We'll pick it up fast and free with a 24-hour response, and your donation may qualify for a tax deduction. Find the Children provides crucial resources to help locate missing children and educational programs that teach kids how to recognize and avoid predators, Before it's too late. Together, we can give families hope and bring children home where they belong. Donate your car today and help bring a child home. Find the children because every child deserves to come home.

54:34 800-547-5331. 800-547-5331. 800-547-5331. This advertisement was paid for in partnership with Cars R Us and Find the Children. Getting america back on track bill martinez live. Well we're talking with rabbi jonathan khan his brand new book the altar of pergamon which is uh it's available now it's official release date is september the first the mystery of the dark angel and the future of the world and uh he's walking us through uh the significance of the uh you know the throne of satan and its influence on world events.

55:22 Go ahead. Yeah, to this day, what the Bible says is true. And by the way, it's coming out, but if you go online, you can get it. It's everywhere. So, yeah, so now, what happens? Okay, we've got the world divided, world on edge, you know, When I was in school, they had air raid drills. I had to go out. We were under desk. Yeah, exactly. You were under desk. We had to cover our heads in case there was a nuclear explosion. We'd get protected. So, okay. Last until, but if you see, if you just follow where the altar is, what happens to the altar, you'll see what happens to the entire world. What happens in 1989, the wall comes down. Okay. And so what happens? Germany actually becomes back into the world as a nation. The first time it came was with the altar in 1871. Now it comes back again with the altar. And so now the altar is cut off from communism. Communism loses the altar. The Soviet Union loses the altar. Eastern Europe loses the altar. Eastern Germany loses it. So what happens? The communist world collapses. It disappears.

56:26 You say they lost the altar. Where did the altar go? No, no. Meaning they lost... It was in Berlin. They lost possession of the altar. They no longer controlled the altar. They possessed it up to that moment. You know, East Germany, communism and the Soviet Union possessed the altar. But once the wall came down and Germany became one, they lost possession of the altar. And once they lost the possession, communism collapses in Eastern Europe, collapses in Soviet Union. Everything follows where that thing is. So now what happened, by the way, we're going to get to a thing that is linked to an American leader on the stage. It was even not Trump on the stage, even now who is linked to the altar of Pergamon and the throne of Satan. But I may not, may not name it, but I'll, I'll speak, I'll mention it. All right. So what happens now? Every time the altar changes, a new power starts rising. One power falls, one power rises. So what's the, what's the power now? Well, if the enemy could not destroy the world by dividing it, which he tried, He will try to possess it by bringing it together as one, one world.

57:35 One world government. One world Bible prophecy. Now we're in that realm. The altar is converging. So what happens? When the altar comes down, Germany becomes one. So Eastern Europe becomes one. And the world starts globalizing in a way that's never before. People say new world order, globalization, new world. Well, so the thing is that one is the thing, the Bible says that's going to happen. It's not going to be good. And the other thing is that, the other thing is that, that something else, what else has been bringing the world together? The web, the web. When did the web come into the world? It was conceived in 1989, the same moment the wall came down in Berlin. Okay. So now you have, you have these things happening in the same moment. When did it come into the world?

58:19 In 1990, Germany comes into the world is unified at the same. That's the, that's the time that the web actually is born. It was conceived, then it was born. And you know, In, in, in, you know, bill, when you say worldwide web, it's on every computer and it's WWW, you know? Right. Well, in the language of the Bible, it's not WWW. It's vav, vav, vav, letter vav, letter vav. Every in the Bible, every letter has a number has a numerical value. It's a number. So what it translates to in the language of the Bible, WWW translates to six, six, six, six, six, six. Yes. Every computer. On every computer. All right. So now the other thing is, what about, I promised you, I'll touch on a mystery of an American leader and how this altar actually has to do with America as well.

59:08 There was an American leader, He's still around. And he actually goes to the place of Satan's throne. And there he stands under an image of an ancient pagan goddess. And he delivers a speech to the world calling the world to become as one. He goes back to America and begins his rise to power in America. And he's going to dominate America for a time. As he is beginning his rise, he's standing on a stage. And it's on television. It's before the world, everybody. Behind him, his rise begins right there. Behind him, there is a structure that they built behind him. And that structure, everybody's looking at that structure and saying, well, that's kind of weird.

59:57 Was it a Greek temple? You know, what they did and whether they knew it or not, what they did is they, they built what that structure was, was a reproduction of the altar of Pergamon behind the American throne of Satan behind the American leader who is about to rise to power. And, and, and now that goes, cause of the altars now sort of in the west, And so what's been happening to the West? You know, it used to be, you said before, it's like good and evil. You know, you had the Cold War. You knew what was good. And you had the throne of Satan there. But now the throne of Satan is a little bit, it's a bit different. So now what's happening to the West, like Europe, is becoming... anti-Christian. Right. The same pattern that happened to Europe is what we're seeing here in America.

1:00:41 Exactly. And in our mainstream culture, we're watching it to a de-Christianization. It follows the altar. So, so now what could this actually dovetail with end time prophecy? Cause the, you know, the mystery that the altar program is revealing is past, present, and future. And the thing is that, you know, the Bible speaks about a coming world power and a world state, a world state. And it's, and now think about now, could this have to do with the altar? What was the last power that had the altar of Pergamon when it was still functioning, burning? It was Rome. Rome. The altar disappears and Rome disappears. The altar comes back. Rome is coming back. The Bible speaks of a revived form of Roman, which is the one world thing. It was a universal empire in some form or another. But the other thing is something else comes into the world. Right after the altar changes hands again, the wall falls. Altar changes hands. Another power is officially born.

1:01:39 It's called the European Union. It was born right then. And right then, and part of this one world thing. And you know who possesses the altar right now? It's not just Germany. Germany's part of it. It's the European Union that has the altar. And the European Union has more of Rome than any other entity in history. You know, the Roman Empire. And so. Are you talking about... I mean, when you talk about Rome coming back, The first thing that comes to mind is brutality, Rabbi. I mean, they were such a brutal, brutal regime. Yes, they were. And think about it. I mean, they were, what were they before? They were the persecutors of Christians.

1:02:24 Yes. They were the destroyers of Israel. You know, think about that. They were the ones that created, they came up with the idea of the crucifixion. Well, they, they certainly used it. Yeah. Or maybe perfected it. I guess they used it. They're the ones who crucified. Yeah. They, they actually, they did the physical crucifying of the Lord that they, they persecuted the church, gave, fed them to the lions. They destroyed Israel. They came in and that's why the Jewish people are all over the world. So it's a big thing. So, yes. So it's interesting that you're saying that because so every power, think about it, every power that's had the altar. turned against, it's that same spirit came in then, turned against the Jewish people, was against the church, against Christianity, and the final one will be the Antichrist. And if the Antichrist, the Antichrist is linked to this Roman or European power, he's going to possess the throne of Satan. You had Hitler, you had Stalin, and now you're going to have the Antichrist.

1:03:31 And there's so much to this because there's an ancient myth that involves a princess and a god of the Greeks wants her. So he turns himself into a bull and she says, oh, what a nice bull. Gets on top of the bull, the bull abducts her, and then he reveals himself and then seduces her. Here's the thing. The name of the princess, ancient myth, the princess's name, ancient name is Europa or Europe. Europe. Europe gets its name from an ancient myth of a woman riding a beast. Think about that. Riding a beast. And a woman who was seduced. You know who the god was? Zeus. Author of Zeus. So a woman who's seduced by Zeus. So now you have the altar of Pergamon, which is the throne of Satan, but it's also the altar of Zeus, is moved to, is now under the possession of Europa. You have the princess and the bull together.

1:04:26 And what is it? It's about she gets carried away. Well, when it comes to Europe first time, she gets carried away with Nazism. Then she gets carried away with communism. Then now she's going to get carried away with the Antichrist. And this goes to a deep thing because, you know, when you say about, you're saying like, what was Rome and now what's going to be? Well, the other thing is that, you know, Rome has a, a fight with Israel. It's a long fight. They won that round, they destroyed Israel, but Israel's back. And when Israeli soldiers used to get sworn in, they'd be sworn in on top of Masada, where the Romans took over. And they swear Masada will never fall again. In other words, what kind of nation Israel is thinking in terms of 2,000 years? So now Israel comes back, Israel comes into the world, You're going to have another Rome come back in the world. The altar is back in the world. And here's another mystery here.

1:05:27 Why did the altar come back? Why did the throne of Satan come back then? Well, when I looked at it, it's just when God started bringing Israel back into the world. He started resurrecting. That's the exact moment that the devil started bringing the throne of Satan. Back into the world. It parallels. And so what did he do? Brought it to Germany that almost destroyed the Jewish people before God could have the nation resurrect him. Then the Soviet Union that also tried to destroy Israel. And then the Antichrist who willed to try to destroy Israel. So it's all linked because the devil knows that when the Jewish people come back to that land, somebody else is coming back to that land. So, of course, he would do everything he could to stop it. And you know the other thing?

1:06:11 I'm just saying it because I don't think I've said it on any show. I'm just saying it to you because we know it. That is, the mystery begins actually of the altar of Pergamon actually begins with Hanukkah. I mean, it begins with the devil from the beginning. But Hanukkah, the guy named Antiochus, who's a shadow of the Antichrist, He comes to the temple of Jerusalem, desecrates it, defiles it, abomination, and then he declares Judaism illegal. He tries to wipe it out. Well, the Antichrist is going to try to do the same thing. But the Maccabees end up defeating this guy. They take the temple back, and they take the altar. He built an altar. They take it off the thing. You know what the altar was? The altar that was the abomination was the altar of Zeus.

1:06:58 Hmm. Yes. Antiochus had a friend who was, his friend was the king of Pergamon. And right after the altar gets taken off, the devil loses one round. His friend builds the altar of Pergamon, which becomes the center of evil against Christians and Jews to this day. Well, stay right there. We've got more from Jonathan Cahn after this. A new study finds a major increase in STEM learning in after-school programs, but gaps remain. Today, 92% of parents with children in after-school say STEM is available, up from 69% a decade ago. That's 6.4 million kids now getting STEM in after-school. Emma Binet, Overdeck Family Foundation.

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1:13:11 Yeah, yeah, the grays, what we're watching are the grays disappearing, you know, the middle grounds disappearing. I mean, look at it even politically, you know, the middle grounds disappearing, you know, the Democratic Party's becoming, you have the socialists that are going to radicalism, you know, and... You know, you even have some on the right who are going extreme with anti-Semitism. You know, they agree with that about being against Israel. That's the two extremes. But you're watching it. The culture which once considered itself, you know, we grew up in a culture that was considered Christian. Well, now everybody said it, but it's kind of gray because everybody said it. Now it's not. The dark is darker, real anti-Christian and pagan, and the light's got to get brighter. We have to get brighter. You know, the dark's getting darker. We have to get brighter. The middle ground, the grays are disappearing. Right.

1:13:56 I think that what I'm sensing is God's calling the question, who are you for? Yeah. Right. There's no way you've got to serve somebody. It's going to be the devil or the Lord. Well, there it is. Uh, his timely book, the altar of Pergamon, the mystery of the dark angel and the future of the world. Rabbi Jonathan Kahn has done it again. 10 New York times bestsellers. Clearly this will be his 11th. And, uh, as Jonathan said, this is a book that, uh, you must don't pass, go collect 200 bucks, go straight, get your hand on this book for yourself and for your family members, because it is that significant. It is that relevant to a time such as this, that we're now living all these questions that you have in mind about the culture and what's going on. I mean, You even have the vice president here recently saying that, you know, we could be very well living in the last days.

1:14:48 Billy Graham, before his passing, when he was asked about these being the last days, he says, oh, no, these are the last of the last days. So the signs are here. And just as been said, as in the days of Noah, what was happening in the days of Noah? It was business as usual. You know, things were happening, but people were not aware because they weren't aware spiritually. And that's what is needed right now. If you're looking at the world through a temporal perspective, you're going to buy into the lies, the deception and the evil, dare I say, because as we were talking with Jonathan, you know, he agreed that the grays have been, you know, cleared out. It really is coming down to black and white. And you need to decide, are you going to be for God or against God? Are you for good or are you for evil? And I know, you know, in your lifetime, you've heard this come up from time and time again. Gosh, I remember in the 60s when I was growing up, there was, you know, the music of the day, you know, all the protest music because of Vietnam. And you remember the Eve of Destruction, Barry Maguire? And it just seemed like there was so much there. And it's interesting because I was thinking about that. And I thought, where is the music today that would give us any kind of warning?

1:16:01 You notice how quiet it is? Even movies, you know, they've been kind of blunted. It seems to be more a delivering of amusement, things that would distract us and blind us from, you know, the spiritual reality of what's happening. And that is that, you know, we know this, you know, we're not here for the long haul. You know, there is a beginning and there is an end in this present life. The question is, after this, where are you going to be? Do you want to be with God or without God? God gives us the free will to make that choice. He loves us enough that he gives us that authority, you know, to choose who you want to serve. And you're going to serve somebody. You right now, even you're serving somebody and you just have to pause and think about, you know, who are you serving? And it's clear that if you're not serving God, then you might analyze, you might take a close look at how life really is. And it might be tough if you're, you know, that kind of individual where right now everything's hunky-dory, you're making good money, you got a balance on your checkbook and your 401k looks good. You know, you're like that rich man who came to Jesus and said, what do I need to do to earn the kingdom of heaven?

1:17:21 He said, well, keep the laws. Well, I've done that. I've kept the laws from birth. I've done all that. What else can I do? And Jesus said, sell everything. You know, in other words, let go of the temporal things of this world and And focus on eternity. Pick up your cross and follow me, he said. And the young man went away with his head down and a bit depressed because he realized when Jesus called that question that he didn't want to do that. And, you know, and this is kind of where we are, is that, you know, when you come to that point of decision, are you willing to pick up your cross? I mean, it's easy to talk about it. Oh, yeah, pick up your cross and follow Jesus, that sounds good, you know, when you're just talking about it, but when you actually have to do it, and this is where we are right now, and this is what Jonathan has so brilliantly brought out in this story within a story, you know, much like if you remember the Harbinger, you had this allegory wrapped into the message that was real, and here, don't get fooled. I mean, Yes, it's a quick read.

1:18:28 It adds some, I guess, a little bit of novelty and interest, and it reads very quickly, this altar of Pergamon. But in the story, within that story, you know, they're undeniable facts. I say undeniable because, again, if you don't have spiritual eyes, if you don't have a spiritual understanding of it's just, okay, you might as well read a romance novel. But for those of us whose eyes are open, and I pray that your eyes would be open, even if right now they're not, I pray that when you get this book that your eyes would be open and that God Almighty would give you the unction and the Holy Spirit to open up your eyes and open up your channels of belief so you could see what's happening in this world and how crazy it is. And maybe it's not right there in your zip code. Maybe it's just, you know, it might be in a city somewhere else nearby, but you think, hey, it's never going to happen here.

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1:23:47 Nutrition for patriots. Let me ask you, Rabbi, you know, we've got about nine minutes left here. I mean, I really appreciate your time. We're able to get into some extra detail here. Is that. With things lining up right now, with what's going on in Iran. And you've got this, you know, this other trinity going on, Iran, China, and Russia. And we know that Israel will be attacked from the north. How is that playing? Is there a connection here with the throne of Satan and these three countries moving on Israel?

1:24:29 Well, there is in a few ways. I mean, interesting. First of all, okay, you mentioned Russia and you mentioned China. Okay. China is still under this darkness that is linked to the altar of communism. Okay. Right. Russia was, and Russia, this power was used in this against the Jewish people. Iran is an ancient nation that the Bible says will be an enemy of Israel in the last days. When it talks about in Ezekiel 38 and 39, there's going to be an invasion and Iran is going to be, you know, Iran has never directly been at war with Israel directly until these last few years. Never happened. We crossed a prophetic line. And the nations that the Bible says are going to be part of that attack on Israel, for the first time, they were all part of something together, an attack, which they were all linked to October 7th. They funded it, they drained it, all of them. So you're seeing that all line up.

1:25:24 And Ezekiel 38 and 39 leads up to Um, you know, really revelation. I mean, what you see, this comes before Armageddon. This is something before that, but it leads up to it. And when you read also interesting things, when you read Ezekiel 38 and 39, what comes right after it? Ezekiel 40 is about the building of the temple. So every Jewish person, when this thing happens, when Ezekiel 38 and 39 is fulfilled, every Jewish person in the world is going to be reading Ezekiel 38 and 39. And then the next chapter says, okay, now rebuild the temple. So they're going to rebuild the temple. You know, now an interesting thing about this is, you know, at the end, it's all, the final war is, the final spot is the temple. I mean, because that's, think about that. We started at the beginning with the devil saying, I will lift up my throne. I'll sit on the mountain of the assembly. That's the temple. Where was God enthroned on earth?

1:26:19 He was enthroned on the temple mount. I mean, that was a place. So the devil wants that. Okay. Yeah. So it's interesting. That's where God has placed his name and his word. Yes. Yes. And that is where the Lord Messiah, Jesus is going to rule, going to reign from. So, yeah. And so therefore it's interesting because when you say, because the altar of Pergamon is linked to that mystery from the beginning, the devil tried to put up that altar of Zeus. Then, then, then his friend built the altar of Pergamon. And now we got the altar of Pergamon with all these evil things trying to against Israel. Right. And then the antichrist, you know, Now the Antichrist is going to defile that temple. He's going to be an abomination. Now it's interesting. This is where I've never said this ever before. The amazing thing, and Bill, this is just the last few days. I don't know what I put in the book, but I'm looking at the abomination, the first one that was the shadow, which is what happened in Daniel, which happened with Hanukkah. It wasn't even an idol.

1:27:17 It was the altar of Zeus, which then becomes the altar of Pergamon, Abomination, you know, could this be linked to that final desecration? You know, of the temple, everything we're talking about? Because it is there. And I told you the Antichrist will undoubtedly have possession of the throne of Satan. And the other thing is, if you go on the Temple Mount today and you look and write what's over where God's throne was, it's the Dome of the Rock. The Dome of the Rock. Yeah, right. But if you look at the Dome of the Rock and you look at the marble, the pieces that they put in there, they didn't mean this. The marble forms a very clear, you're looking at it, it's the face of Satan staring at you with horns, with everything, right on there. You know, he said, I will put my throne, I will sit where the Most High sits. Amazing. It's true.

1:28:10 And the entire history of the world has been affected by it, and it will be affected. But let me just, let me bring it to a good thing. Well, let me just say this. It's interesting, because you talk about, he says he's going to sit, where the most high sits. Well, now we've gone from when he was kicked out of heaven, he exalted himself five times and wanted to be above God. Now he's willing to compromise and say, I want to be as God, and I will sit at the same level as God. Yes. If I'm reading that and hearing that correctly. Yeah, yeah. What did he say he's going to do? to exalt? His throne. Yes. Throne of Satan. Yes. And so to bring this home, you know, listen, every book of mine ends with hope and ends with a charge. And here's the thing. Listen, this is why I'm also praying that people watching, don't just get it for yourself.

1:28:53 Get it for people in your life who need to be saved. Because they're going to be drawn into it. It's a story. But it's going to show how real God is, how real his word is, and then how we have to get saved. Because it all goes right to salvation. Right on. Okay, so the thing is this. Listen, if God, if the enemy is real, and the devil is very real, look, it's almost destroyed the world. I mean, it's how real it is. then God is even more real. And that means every word of the Bible, look, this whole thing comes from Revelation where it talks about this, and look what it reveals. How incredible the word of God is. It's real. Every promise is real. And the devil's fighting God because he has his own altar because he hates God's altar. You know what God's altar is?

1:29:34 The cross. It doesn't take life. He gives life. You know, it's, it's, it's our beautiful God who gives us life. That's where we got to come to. That's what overcomes, that's what overcomes the devil. And it says they will overcome him by the blood of the lamb, you know? So, so, and remember that the devil's been trying to destroy Israel for, for over like thousands of years, but they're all those powers are gone. but Israel still lives because God lives, because Messiah lives, and we're going to live. We prevail, we win in the end, but be strong. The fight is real, but if you fight, you're going to win. So if I could just say, listen, I just say, it should be, the altar program is just coming out now, but you'll get it anywhere. If they go online now, Amazon, anywhere, it's going to be there. If you go to any bookstore in a moment, it's going to be there. But again, think about people in your life who need to get saved.

1:30:19 That's my... There's a story there. It's a thriller. But there's so much more. Even though Bill is so gracious, he gives me the time to get into all these things, we just touch the surface. There's so much more to this mystery. Right, exactly. As you said, the book reveals, what, over 200 mysteries? We counted about 200 mysteries. Wow. Like I said, put on your seatbelt and your crash helmet. Rabbi is always an honor. It looks like this. Yes. Yeah, it looks like this, the mystery of the dark angels. So if you see that anywhere, you got it. Yeah, so you want to run to it. Run to it, get your hands on it, get your neighbor, run with your neighbor, your family members, because this is going to, all these things that are happening, because the number one question, Rabbi, the number one question I get is, is God judging us?

1:31:12 Yeah, well, we are certainly in danger of judgment and under that. And as any nation that has been so blessed as America has been, we've been blessed for as much as we follow God and as much as we blessed Israel or the Jewish people. That's a law. But we've turned away. We're turning away from one. And now we're now we're in danger of turning away from the other. All bets are off. So, yeah. And he also judges us also correctively, too, because in the sense that. He allows things to happen to try to pull us back. That's what he did with Israel. Exactly. To bring us back. So there is already that happening. You know, things are, everybody senses things are not right. Everybody senses it's not like it was. Things are not right. There's something brewing and there's something not right. Because when you take God out, it's never going to be right. So he allows it in his mercy to call us back. Only when there's no more hope, that's it. You know, so yeah, we need revival.

1:32:00 Amen. Preceded by repentance because we had to know. You can't have revival without repentance. Exactly rabbi jonathan khan the book the altar of pergamon the mystery of the dark angel and the future of the world rabbi always thank you so much god bless. You thank you bill always always a joy thank you. Have you written a book or do you have a manuscript ready and just need to find the right publisher? Christian Faith Publishing supports authors like yourself to bring their books to life. And right now we're offering you a free writer's guide designed to steer you towards book completion. Christian Faith Publishing evaluates each manuscript we receive. If your book earns approval, we take care of everything. Editing, designing, printing, promotion and widespread online and in-store distribution. Picture your book gracing the shelves of specialty Christian bookstores, Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and numerous other retail destinations. It's time to get that manuscript published and to work with a publisher who shares your values of integrity and honesty. You can get your book published. Get your manuscript reviewed and a free writer's guide today.

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1:36:22 Hey, welcome back. Bill Martinez here. For more information on the show, you can go to BillMartinezLive.com. Well, young leaders are feeling hurt. This is according to a Key Club survey, which reveals high levels of belonging and confidence as concerns about youth loneliness and disengagement rise. Now, Key Club members report strong peer connections, civic engagement, and a sense of purpose. With us to talk about it is Michelle Studi-Campbell. She's an executive director at of Youth Programs with Kiwanis. Hey, Michelle, good morning to you. Welcome, Michelle. Good to have you with us. Good day. How are you, sir? Hey, I'm doing terrific. I mean, to hear about Key Club, I mean, it takes me back to my high school years. I was telling you, I was the Key Club president. I don't know what that means, but anyway.

1:37:03 Yeah, I do. It was just a lot of fun. We had a great group of people there in California. Outstanding. Well, you know, we got our start in California in 1925. We started in a great state of California. Well, there it is. Well, in a world that continues to feel more isolated, Key Club, is helping students build something increasingly valuable, real-world connections, that is, at the 2026 Key Club International Convention in Dallas, Texas. Students participated in daily surveys exploring civic involvement, community engagement, policy, peer relationships, and mental health and more. Well, Michelle, tell us, what did you discern from all these meetings? Yeah, so this was the first time we've taken these pulse check surveys. We had one question for our thousand students that were at convention. Every evening, we asked them their thoughts on really just civic engagement, how confident they felt in making changes in this world, how hopeful they were, and the results were outstanding. We're very excited to see that our students are feeling connected and hopeful about the future.

1:38:08 Well, you know, we ask today, and I have reminded our audience about this, that it is critical that the young people feel that their voice matters, right? Yes. Yeah, I mean, that's important for everyone, right? That you feel that your voice matters, that you have some voice and choice in this world. And so it's critically important for young people as well. You know, they're able to roll up their sleeves. and make a difference in their community with their time talent and treasure and you know they really get to choose what are the community projects that are so important to their community and to the students within the club it's student-led as you know you were the president Right. Exactly. And we had a lot of great people. And you're exactly right, because we followed an incredible legacy there in California where we were, you know, a part of the community doing just that, as you said, that we we engaged.

1:38:59 And it was the thing that was so positive about, especially when we engaged with businesses. I think they were surprised to see, you know, the kind of leadership and the kind of people that, you know, Key Club was bringing to bear on, you know, an issue to help them. Yeah, absolutely. And I think for generations, Key Club has been such a special part of communities, not just here in the United States, but 44 countries. We have Key Clubs. We are making a difference locally and internationally. We have great partnerships with UNICEF USA. We helped start the Trick or Treat for UNICEF movement. We work with the Thirst Project. So our students are not only working towards making their local communities better through service, but then also we do international projects as well to have an impact.

1:39:45 Excellent. What is it about being a part of K-Club that has led to its neighbors reporting, or I should say its neighbors as members, reporting such positive feelings of connection and belonging? Well, again, I think it's student-led and that these meetings are in real life. We do Zoom every now and again, but more and more we're together. You get to put down your phones. step outside of your headspace and doom scrolling, and connect in a real way that brings an impact to your community. And I think that for young people to see the results of their time and talent right there in front of them, it's critically important. And they know that they're making a difference every time that they're together. It gives them a place at the table, doesn't it?

1:40:27 Absolutely. Yeah. And the fact that they're able to express themselves and talk some of these things out because it's important. And I think that this is some of the challenge that we have today with young people is I often catch myself saying, well, good observation, wrong conclusion, which means we just need to talk about it a little bit more to understand where this thinking actually ends up, right? Exactly. And I think that's what's so special about Key Club. We teach students, we give them the framework for the community research, right? Like just because you think that, animal welfare is the biggest issue in your community, right? We teach that the framework that you need to do the research, meet the partners, talk to other people involved, so that you're not just coming up with a solution in search of a problem.

1:41:15 Right, exactly. Well, and as you say, participation in these service projects and community engagement affects students' mental well-being, confidence, and sense of purpose. As you said, as they go through this process and they work on a proven system that gives them the results that they expect so they're not wasting their time, they feel, hey, look, this is a good investment. I'm glad I did. This, right? Absolutely, yeah. So they really see the return of on their hard work and effort. And I think that really just sparks a fire. And we see it time and time again that a Key Club may start with eight to 10 students and it continues to grow and grow as students learn their power and their impact in their community.

1:42:01 It really is catchy. Yeah, the thing that I found interesting in thinking back, Michelle, is that I was surprised that we had a pretty good active group in Key Club. And these young people, how... they were just naturally motivated for service. I thought that was so cool. That kind of blew me away, you know, because, you know, I knew a couple of people who were involved in certain extracurricular activities, but to see the people that came out and were willing to engage like this, you know, for no pay volunteer, right? Yes. Yeah. So, so, and I imagine that sense continues even to this day, right? Absolutely.

1:42:41 A lot of times students will tell us they joined to help build their LinkedIn profile for college applications, but they stay because of the connections and the friendships and they see the impact of their service. And Key Club, one of the statistics I'm so incredibly proud of is that our students repeatedly say that Key Club is where they feel welcomed and wanted. And what a powerful, powerful result in today's society for that. Well, Michelle Stude Campbell serves as the director of Kiwanis Youth Programs at Kiwanis International, where she leads and supports the organization's global network of youth leadership programs. Well, let's talk about, you know, the positive effect it's having on parents and civic leaders in a more broadly term and how they're learning from Key Club's success in fostering connection, leadership, and civic engagement among young people.

1:43:33 Yeah, so I think, you know, back to our previous topic and talking about getting students engaged, right? I think a lot of times adults are shocked that students care so deeply about certain causes and that they have so many creative solutions to issues within their community. And I think that involving community leaders and elected officials, as well as parents, to see the value is so incredibly important. Kiwanis International is the sponsor of Key Club. And, you know, we work very closely with those community-minded adults to grow Key Club and to teach leadership skills through the service.

1:44:14 One of the challenges that the young people have been having is the issue of isolation. How does Key Club help with this issue? Yeah, so I think it's really just as simple as it's hard to keep doom scrolling on your phone in the middle of a community park cleanup. So we provide opportunities to put down your devices and certainly after you listen to this program, but put down your devices and get involved in your community. And that's anything from even just a planning meeting, right? Like you want to be focused and locked in. And this gives you the opportunity to kind of get outside of your head and connect with others to find your core friend group and to make a difference.

1:44:55 What's the key message that you want young perspective Key Club members to have? Well, I think it's become part of Key Club. Join our family and you'll see just exactly your impact. We will help you amplify your voice and make a difference in your community and grow as a leader as well. I think they'll be surprised at where their skillset, how it can fit, because there are so many opportunities within key club to exercise your giftings and talents in a way that you didn't think was possible. And you may have seen some of these other kids, you may have called them, well, you know, back in our days, they were socials, you know, they were, Oh, that was the, you know, unique group or whatever, you know, kind of deal, but you'd be surprised how the connection will engage you. And, uh, and be a platform to get some new friends and to exercise a part of your personality that you kind of, you know, kept in the background, right?

1:45:56 Absolutely. One of our core values is inclusiveness. And you see that in key club gatherings. There are students who are athletes, brainiacs, like whatever your label is, they drop that at the door of key club and everybody's there to serve and learn valuable life skills. Well, Michelle Stude Campbell, thank you for coming on. Boy, you brought back some memories, taking me back down memory lane here. Where can our listeners go for more information? You can go to keyclub.org, again, keyclub.org, and we'll help you learn if you have a key club in your community and how to get plugged in. And of course, if you want to start a key club, I have a team right here in Indianapolis ready to help you get started.

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