Bill Martinez Live
Sept. 16, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 09 16 26

The Bill Martinez Show 09 16 26
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The Bill Martinez Show 09 16 26
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Are you ready?

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Yeah.

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Okay, let's do it.

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Bill Martinez Live, a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now, Bill Martinez.

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Hey, good morning to you. Welcome. Glad you could join us.

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Bill Martinez here, and we have Marlee Harnick joining us.

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I've been trying to get a hold of her for

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quite a while. She is very highly in demand, so

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we're very fortunate to have her, the founder and CEO

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of RealAmerica.vote. It's a 501c3 nonprofit dedicated to ensuring accurate,

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legally compliant, and auditable U.S. elections. What a novel idea, Marlee.

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Yeah, exactly. We would actually know that we chose our

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representatives and we wouldn't just have to trust the election

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administrators to, you know, oh, believe me, this is really

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who won. Just take our word for it.

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Right, exactly. So I guess that idea that the consent

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to the government that's in our constitution, you know, we'll

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just throw that aside too, right?

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Yeah, you know, there's a lot of throwing aside right

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now and it's not working for people.

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Well, you know, the good news in all this, Marley,

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and I know it's taken a long time. I mean,

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it seems like this has been going on forever. In fact,

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we've been reporting on this for quite a while, and

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the thing was a little disturbing, actually a lot disturbing,

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when we started looking at all these discrepancies that are

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going on. You know, the Democrats came out and admitted,

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and they said, well, if the truth be known, you know, JFK,

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we did a little shenanigans to get him elected. I'll go,

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wait a minute. We have been dealing with this for decades,

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and it's just, I don't know. it's just acceptable?

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Right.

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Well, I think it's not acceptable anymore. And there was

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a time when the parties weren't so strongly divided in

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terms of what their agendas were for the American people

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and our country, our economy, and all of these issues.

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But at this point, there's no leeway, really, in terms

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of election outcome. And both sides are incredibly vested in

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both the parties and the people in these outcomes. And

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so it's more important than ever that we have absolutely

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impeccable results. And like you said, there's so many discrepancies.

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We've known about this for years. We've been watching it

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for years. You know, one of my favorite podcasters says,

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I know 2020 was stolen because I'm not stupid, right?

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Very well said. That's the bottom line. I mean, let's

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not make it complicated, right?

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Exactly.

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Right.

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So- So the work that realamerica.vote is doing right now, though,

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is pretty unique because what I've been doing personally as

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a CEO is meeting for over a year and a

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half with U.S. attorneys in the Northern District of New York.

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And we've been working through the many discrepancies we had

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uncovered in New York and how it lines up in

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terms of prosecution. Where does the rubber meet the road

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here in terms of holding election officials accountable What constitutes

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evidence of criminal election misconduct? And so we think we've

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stumbled onto the solution and we've run numerous pilot studies

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and now I've handed to U.S. Attorney John Sarkone in

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Albany a study that we did on the Mamdani election.

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So the second sentence of the constitution says the people

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choose the members of Congress and the representatives and the

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states qualify the voters according to state law. So we

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just asked the question, and we asked the question of

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the official election returns provided by the New York City

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and New York State Boards of Elections. Did they qualify

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the voters? We took giant samples of voters who voted,

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and we used private investigators. We used synthetic identity fraud

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prevention tools to ascertain the actual identity of the individuals.

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We don't look at the ID. I don't care. We're

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not looking people up. We're trying to figure out if

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they exist. What we found, Bill, was extraordinary. 7% of

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the voters in that election did not exist. 6% of

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the voters had fake social security numbers that were not

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issued by SSA. And 10% of the voters did not

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live anywhere in the New York City boundary from January

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of 2025 through June of 2026. So these were blatantly unqualified.

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So you're talking roughly a third of the voters? About

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a quarter.

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Yep.

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Just under a quarter.

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Oh, just under a quarter. Okay. My math is off.

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I'm sorry. Okay.

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So one in four.

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That's incredible.

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Yeah. So that is felony election misconduct by the New

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York City and New York State Boards of Elections. You know,

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you miss a couple here and there.

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Yeah.

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What makes it a felony, Marley? Because, you know, you

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get people like Eric Holder and Barack Obama and others say, well,

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it's just a couple. It's inconsequential. Well, Eric Holder even

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went so far to say that election fraud did not

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exist whatsoever. So he really went over the top. But

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yet somehow these numbers are, you know, they come up

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with some sort of acceptable number. You know, what makes

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it a felony? Is it because it's It's 25%? Is

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it because it's 5%? Or is it just a felony

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because it is?

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Well, it starts out as a felony because it is.

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Then you have to deal with the arguments that are

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always in the courts, which is, you know, did it

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actually affect the outcome? Well, we only studied a million

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of the voters in that election. So there's 1.2 million

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more voters we didn't even examine. We didn't look at them.

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And we already exceeded the margin of victory of Zoran

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Mamdani over Andrew Cuomo in that election in terms of fraud.

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And this is, again, you know, The president had that

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incredible presentation in July about penetration of election systems. I

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agree with everything he said. I don't doubt any of it.

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And I have evidence I've presented to three letter agencies

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about penetration. But, you know, the issue comes down to

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what can we prove right now? So I don't know

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how these voters voted. I don't know how they got

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in the system. I don't know if it was China.

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I don't know if it was George Soros. I don't

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know if it was, you know, Joe Smith. I don't know.

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But when you think about the system, the election officials

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are the control agents on the process. They are required

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constitutionally to make sure that, like I said, the people

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choose and only those who are qualified under state law

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are part of that group that chooses. So New York

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completely ignores And this is their Supreme Court precedent. Actually,

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it's amazing. Certification of a false tally has been a

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federal crime since the 1860s. And election officials have gone

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to federal prison, upheld by the Supreme Court in multiple

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instances for this crime. The last time the Department of

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Justice prosecuted someone under this principle was May of 2020,

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just before the end of election fraud, right?

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Right. Yeah, go figure, right?

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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Well, that's interesting that here it is. I mean, there's

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been a track record, but obviously the outcome is worth

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the risk for them, right?

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Absolutely. And there's no accountability at this point. That's why

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our focus is on transparency and auditability and accuracy. because

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there is no consequence at this point. The election officials

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don't have to control or protect the system because no

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one can fix the problem. And it doesn't matter. Again,

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it's probably China, Iran, Russia, Joe Smith, George Soros, and

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10 other people all cheating. I don't even know. It

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doesn't matter because the people who are standing guard at

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the gate are sleeping on the watch and they're criminally

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accountable for that. And there's so much precedent. So, you know,

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That's the Mamdani thing. You know, right now, RealAmerica.vote actually

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is doing the exact same study. We are just beginning

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our process and we definitely need people's help and support

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to get this done really quickly because we have the

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returns from the Spencer Pratt mayoral primary. And we are

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running the same thing in L.A. This is incredible because

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this is the first time we've been able to get

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this data before the complete election is resolved.

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Right.

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So we have until November to finish this study and

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make sure that everyone on planet Earth knows what really

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happened in L.A. We've run pilot studies in California and

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it's it's worse than the Mumtani election. So we know

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we're going to find the problem.

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Right, exactly. Well, we've got to go to a quick break.

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We've got more from Marley on the other side. Stay

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As promised, we're back with you.

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I'm Harley Hornick, founder and CEO of realamerica.vote. And we're

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talking about your next project dealing in Los Angeles. Of course,

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this has been stinking for I haven't for a number

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of months here. Uh, Marlene, can you move fast enough

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before November to be able to find some sort of

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resolution on the Spencer Pratt vote?

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What we're going to be able to definitely do, we're

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going to definitely be able to run a big sample

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in that election. We're going to be able to bring

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those returns and those results to Bill Assele, who is

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the U.S. attorney for the Central District of California. We're

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going to be able to meet with him. I've met

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with him twice before. We'll meet with him again and

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walk through the statutes and all of the information that

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he needs to understand why what we're bringing him matters.

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And his friend, John Sarkone, the U.S. attorney from Albany,

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will be there to help also. So we are going

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to try to make this miracle happen before the election. Now,

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ballots start getting mailed out in three weeks. So the

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timing is incredibly tight. But we see these battles all

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over the country, these last minute battles, right? The Supreme

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Court just ruled in Missouri that they're going to hold

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on the new map. They're going to force Missouri to

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use the old map. So, you know, the Republicans lost

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a seat. There's a new injunction. And then another, you know,

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more and more injunctions in the mail-in ballot cases. It

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looks like that may not fly. But there is so

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much litigation right now. And there's no reason we can't

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do one more. I mean, we have, otherwise, think about

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living in LA right now. And you have the choice

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between a disaster and a disaster on the ballot. That's it.

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And those are your only choices. And you're supposed to

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accept that because they didn't want Spencer Pratt making those

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videos for six months ahead of the midterm and getting

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like getting 10 and 20 and maybe, who knows, 100

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million views on those videos showing American citizens what the

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Democrat Party is about right now.

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Marley, is there a movement amongst attorney generals, particularly in

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these blue states, where they want to be genuine and

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do something on behalf of the American people to make

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sure that their vote counts? Are they starting to move

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in that direction, or are they still resistant and ideologically fixed?

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Yeah, they're totally resistant and ideologically fixed. In fact, speaking

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from a constitutional perspective, they have been violating law left

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and right, violating rights, actually, violating constitutional rights left and right.

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And there's two major ways that they've been doing this,

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particularly in blue states. First of all, the DOJ has

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been trying to get the voter roll databases from these

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states with the social security numbers and driver's license numbers

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of the voters intact. And the states have been claiming

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that the elections clause gives them the right to withhold

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a federal document from the federal government. And additionally, I'm

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sure you know, you realize why Madison and so many

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of the founders argued so vehemently to have two governments

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They have a dual kind of citizenship so that if

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one government screws you, you can go to the other

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one for help. And they are completely abandoning that principle

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and saying, no, the federal government, the Department of Justice

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has no right to vindicate the voting rights of American citizens.

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That's a state job, which is insane. That means that

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the states can literally and this, you know, Let's think

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about this for just a second. Go back to the

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Mamdani study. 7% of the voters that were certified in

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that election do not exist. We know this is happening.

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It's not just the mayoral election. It's happening in statewide elections.

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New York State is apportioning congressional representation to to people

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who do not exist. This is not an oopsie, and

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this is not a minor thing. This is actually a

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rogue action. This is the betrayal of the union. There

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is a provision in the 14th Amendment to actually do

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something about this. But no, no, they're not coming into alignment.

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And then, of course, the other way that they're doing,

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violating civil and constitutional rights about elections is that they

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go after people like myself, you know, We have a

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lawsuit right now in Albany, in the Northern District, in

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federal court, where we're proceeding. We got through standing on

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a First Amendment retaliation case against Letitia James and the

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New York State Board of Elections. And the judge said

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they have to appear in their personal capacity. She was

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appalled by the way they came after citizens who just

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wanted to know if the election returns were fair and accurate. And,

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you know, so that's the other thing they're doing. They're

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doing it all over the place. They terrorize you if

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you question them.

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Exactly. Molly Hornick, by the way, just so you understand this,

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ladies and gentlemen, she's a constitutional election law expert. So

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this isn't opining. You know, she knows what she's talking about.

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She's been spending decades on behalf of the American people.

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to make sure that our elections are legitimate, that we

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don't continue what's been going on for decades. Yes, 2020

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was a big revelation, but it's like, You know, this

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has to stop. I mean, you talk about California Judicial

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Watch did an exam and this has been going on

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for years going after California. And they found something like

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three million people on the voter rolls, many of which

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same case. They didn't exist and move. You know, anybody

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that's been in marketing knows that roughly 25 percent of

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the zip code moves every year. okay they have not

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had an audit in forever they keep everybody on those

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voting rolls because it gives them those options to manipulate

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those names and tie them to uh let's just say

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democratic votes Yep.

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And again, it doesn't it may not even just be

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one person. It might not be the election officials. It

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might not be the state.

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It might not.

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You know, who knows who the heck is doing it?

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But we know who is supposed to prevent it. Who

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has an affirmative constitutional duty to protect the right of

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American citizens to choose Congress by keeping everybody who is

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not qualified the hell away from our elections?

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Right.

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How?

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Big of an issue is this being, Marlee, in terms

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of people's frustration over the legitimacy of the election process.

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Well, I think this is a breakthrough approach, actually, because

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we've chosen a really simple constitutional principle to anchor our claim.

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This was a condition of ratification. It's really easy to

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prove that the states are abandoning the principle that they

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agreed to before we signed that constitution. before we ratified,

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and it's criminal. And there's major precedent. So again, we

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don't have to solve this matrix. All we have to

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show is that this foundational right to actually what is

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a Republican form of government. If the people are not

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choosing the representatives, we do not have a Republican form

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of government. And that was the entire purpose of the

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United States Constitution was to create a Republican form of government.

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Where the citizens are sovereign over the law.

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Right.

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So, you know, it's very simple.

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Well, and as you talk about, you know, we've used

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this as an example, what happened in Minnesota with Franken, right?

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And how he got elected with very few votes. I mean,

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it was just the whole thing was so spurious. But

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that vote really mattered because what that gave us was Obamacare.

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Right, and yeah, and these, when you get ideologues into office,

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when they successfully perpetuate their schemes and people buy the ruse,

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and you don't ever get what they promised, you actually

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just get bigger government You get more arrogant administrators who

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are basically running experiments on live human beings like the

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transgender mutilization stuff. I mean, that's all that is. It's,

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you know, it's practically like, you know, an open air

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Nazi experiment.

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Well, yeah. And here we are, Marlee. How many issues

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do we deal with today or 90 10 issues? I mean,

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our country is upside down and everybody's going, what the

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heck is going on here? How do we get a

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grip on this constitutional republic once again? Right.

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Well, I'm happy to say that I'm in Dallas. I'm

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leaving the Republican convention, which was an incredible event. And

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people who did not watch Trump's speeches either night, just

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pick one. If you want to watch the two hour one,

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that was Thursday or that was Wednesday. If you want

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to watch the one hour one, that was last night.

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incredible event, incredible energy, patriotism and love of country in

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that arena, absolutely packed to the gills with overflow crowds outside.

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And people really got the memo. And, you know, he

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basically said, look, we didn't get the SAVE Act yet.

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We don't have any of these controls in place yet.

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So you have to pretend I'm on the ballot in

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this midterm. Pretend it's that dire and every single person

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go out and vote. Don't take the midterm as like,

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you know, an optional.

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Right, exactly. Our independence depends on it. Our freedoms depend

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on it. 30 seconds left, Marlene. How can we help?

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Well, we're going to be running millions and millions of

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these voter history records going in towards the 2028 presidential

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and also the 2030 census because it's apportionment fraud as well.

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So anyone who can contribute to that process and those costs,

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it's unbelievably appreciated. It is not cheap to hire these

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professionals and have them run this data, but the DOJ

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can't get it, so it's up to us. The American

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people will get it done. We'll bring the data to

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the DOJ. We'll get these prosecutions, and we will get

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our country back in order.

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Well, Marlee Hornick, founder and CEO of realamerica.vote. Marlee, thank

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you so much. Godspeed. Take care.

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Thanks, Bill.

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Well, we've got more coming up from the author, the

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Hey, we're back with you. Bill Martinez here along with

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Tea Party Patriots Jenny Beth Martin. Jenny Beth, how are

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we doing?

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I am doing great.

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I am doing really well.

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Thank you so much.

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Well, good to have you here. You were in Dallas.

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A brilliant idea, again, from Donald Trump to have a

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midterm convention, the first time ever in the history of

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the Republican Party, huh?

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Yes, we did. And now you see my background is

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back on. We had a little technical difficulty right there.

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The convention was really very interesting, Bill. It was uplifting

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and exciting and we worked on and we not worked on,

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but we heard messaging that is it's clear to me

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we should be talking about it. about and repeating and

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also it was a bit somber um and sober because

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on Thursday we had the one year anniversary of Charlie

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Kirk's assassination and We had an angel family speaking, the

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parents and sister of Sheridan Gorman, who was murdered in

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Illinois earlier this year by an illegal immigrant. We had

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hostages who President Trump freed and parents of one of

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the hostages whose son did not return alive from Gaza,

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but his remains were returned. And President Trump made sure

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his remains were returned. That was just heart wrenching. And

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then you also heard that we had a beautiful, beautiful

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tribute to 9-11 and the 25th anniversary of 9-11.

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But that was also sad.

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So it was it was really good. And also it

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reminds us of what the stakes are all about in

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the real life consequences and pain that the wrong decision

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in November could cause Americans.

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Yeah.

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Well, you look at where we are, and, you know,

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I was looking back through a history of when Democrats

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were in charge, and there's very little, Jenny Beth, that

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I can take away and say, I'm sure glad they

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were in charge during that period of time. Because whether

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you're talking about Obamacare, you're talking about the ongoing mire

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of what happened in Afghanistan, certainly the evacuation and how

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we left there. I mean, this was all done by

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Democrats and Obamacare and that. I mean, it just goes

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on and on. And the only time that the Democrats

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were a bit sober when we were able to do

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something of consequence goes back to Bill Clinton. And the

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only reason that happened, and Bill Clinton needs to thank

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Newt Gingrich and the Republicans for making his presidency. If

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it hadn't been for Newt Gingrich and the Republicans, you know,

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Bill Clinton would be an afterthought.

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Well, Bill Clinton was a Democrat the way that we

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have thought of Democrats most of our lives. He wanted

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more government, for sure. And he still loved America and

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wanted what's best for America. Just his view of what

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is good for the government to do, in my view

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of what is better left alone by the government, are different.

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What I can say, and I think this is important, Bill,

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because on the left right now, we have people who

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are so driven by absolute hatred of President Trump that

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they really can't see straight. What I can't see is this.

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When President Obama got Osama bin Laden, I didn't care

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who the president was. I just was glad we got

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Osama bin Laden. And I could champion that no matter

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who the president was.

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And.

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When Joe Biden was clearly having memory issues, we held

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him accountable because he is a president. And we also

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felt compassion for him because we can imagine ourselves being

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there or our parents being there or other people we

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care about being in that same situation. And we don't

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want to see anyone go through that on such a

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public stage. So I think it's important for us to

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remember that we actually we have to keep that human

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connection and.

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The left has lost it.

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They are so driven by their frenzied heat of President

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Trump that it's led them to hate the country and

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hate what's best for the country. In addition to hating

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him and in addition to hating all of his supporters,

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it's not healthy. It's not healthy for them. It's not

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healthy for our country. And now they're championing people who hate.

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outright want to shred our Constitution. And I say that

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confidently because they want to abolish a Senate, abolish a presidency,

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expand the powers of the House of Representatives, and either

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abolish or dramatically pack the Supreme Court. You can't do

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that without destroying our constitutional government. And don't even, that

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doesn't even get me started into what they think about

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property rights and taxes and the list goes on and on.

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Yeah, and these are their words, Jenny Beth. This isn't

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some pundit opining of some theory. I mean, this is

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from their lips to our ears. I mean, they're telling

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you exactly what they want to do. So there should

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be no surprise here. I mean, whereas Barack Obama talked

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about hope and change and the fundamental transformation, a lot

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of people were really excited about that. I guess the

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people that were socialists, that was code for them. That

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was a dog whistle. They understood that. But the rest

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of us thought, well, OK, we're electing the first black president.

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So maybe there's some hope that we would be able

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to once and for all put racism in the rearview mirror.

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No, there should be. There should have been from that.

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But instead, for whatever reason, they use the fact that

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we elected the first black president as a reason that

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our country is racist. Some of it doesn't even quite

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make sense to me. On top of that, Bill, we

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have a $ 1, 700 tax cut for the average American right now. $ 1, 700.

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Not a single Democrat in the House or the Senate

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voted for that. The Democrats, 206, there were two Democrats

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who voted with Republicans to protect Republicans. women's sports and

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girls' sports most specifically. 206 Democrats don't want to protect

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girls' sports in the House side. And on the Senate side,

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not a single Democrat has voted for it. We support

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the police and back the badge, if you will. We

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support the police and law enforcement. We've had an 18

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percent decrease in the murder rate We have the lowest

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murder rate since the year 1900, 126 years. The Democrats

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and the Democrat Socialists of America want to abolish police

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and abolish prisons, defund police and defund prisons to get there,

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essentially giving a jailbreak to rapists and murderers. It doesn't

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even quite make sense what they want. So And then,

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of course, they support DEI. They support transgender surgery for children.

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They don't want to have only citizens voting in American elections.

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They don't want any safeguards to ensure that is happening.

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They don't want voter ID. The list goes on and

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on and on.

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Abortion up to birth. Oh, my goodness.

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It seems, and I know this isn't really on the ballot,

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but when you look at what's happened with Lindsey Graham, Clancy,

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it's not just abortion after birth.

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Just OK.

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You had a really hard day and you're having mental issues.

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So kill your your three children. And and that's OK.

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And we let someone off for that because they had it.

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Don't even get me started with that. I just can't

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even deal with it. It just is so wrong.

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What about the.

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Justice for those three children who are no longer alive

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because of what that woman did? And yet on the left,

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they're justifying it. They have become so disconnected from reality.

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from what laws are supposed to be, from facts, and

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so connected to just, oh, it feels good and it

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feels right and this feels, feels, feels, that they aren't

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even doing, they aren't even providing justice to three murdered children.

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It is shocking to me.

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Right.

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Well, the root of all this, Jenny Beth, is what

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Lindsey Graham pointed out. It's about power and control. I mean,

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it's absolute madness. They have totally lost their minds. And

656
00:37:45.670 --> 00:37:49.050
combined with Trump derangement syndrome and everything, but the lust

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00:37:49.070 --> 00:37:55.210
for power, it's so thick and it's so easily seen,

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if you have eyes to see, that this party has

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become the anti-American party, sadly.

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Yeah, they're the anti-American party. They are for globalization. They

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are for getting rid of our constitutional government. They're for

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replacing it. They don't like our Declaration of Independence. They

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don't like our Bill of Rights. And they want to

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get rid of all of it. Well, what that will

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lead to is something that looks very, very similar to

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the covid lockdown. So we all just experienced less than

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a decade ago. Except it will be much, much worse

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because it will be permanent and there won't be emergency

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relief that we think will eventually end. It will be

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a permanent way of life with total government control. And I,

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for one, love my liberty way too much to allow

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that to happen.

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Amen.

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Hey, welcome back. Bill Martinez here. Good to have you

750
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with us. Glad you could join us. Jim Robb is

751
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with us. He is the Numbers USA Vice President for Alliances.

752
00:43:29.309 --> 00:43:29.670
Hey, Mr.

753
00:43:29.710 --> 00:43:30.389
Jim, how we doing?

754
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:32.320
Doing fine, Bill.

755
00:43:32.340 --> 00:43:36.269
It's a beautiful blue sky day in Washington for a change.

756
00:43:36.690 --> 00:43:39.849
Well, hey, that's always good. You measure them, I guess,

757
00:43:40.889 --> 00:43:43.349
in days, not necessarily in months. So when you get them,

758
00:43:43.369 --> 00:43:44.510
you make the most of them, right?

759
00:43:44.530 --> 00:43:46.929
Yes.

760
00:43:47.090 --> 00:43:47.880
That is the truth.

761
00:43:48.510 --> 00:43:51.420
Well, Jim, lots going on. You know, we've got politicians

762
00:43:51.500 --> 00:43:55.380
out there. It's amazing to me how they have gone

763
00:43:55.420 --> 00:44:00.440
after the churches and trying to... persuade the, the churches

764
00:44:00.659 --> 00:44:04.760
that the Bible says something other than what it says. Uh,

765
00:44:04.809 --> 00:44:06.869
you know, and the thing that's more shocking to me

766
00:44:06.929 --> 00:44:10.010
is why the churches aren't like Bob craft and kicking

767
00:44:10.050 --> 00:44:11.190
them out of their facilities.

768
00:44:13.510 --> 00:44:17.050
It's the, the, the problem is the Bible is a

769
00:44:17.130 --> 00:44:22.239
big book, right? It has over 100,000 verses. So if

770
00:44:22.300 --> 00:44:28.530
someone is not really, uh, uh, uh, kind of scholarly

771
00:44:28.670 --> 00:44:31.610
and really knows it, it's easy to get fooled because

772
00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:36.980
you pick up this verse, that verse, and out of context,

773
00:44:37.900 --> 00:44:39.980
it may sound like the Bible teaches one thing, but

774
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:42.239
it really, it teaches a lot of things on immigration.

775
00:44:42.639 --> 00:44:45.949
So what the people who are like big boosters of

776
00:44:46.010 --> 00:44:49.809
mass immigration say, that is true, but it's in the

777
00:44:49.849 --> 00:44:53.570
wrong context. They keep repeating what the Bible says about

778
00:44:53.989 --> 00:44:58.630
be kind to the stranger, don't Yeah, treat the stranger

779
00:44:59.070 --> 00:45:02.090
really well because you were, and it's talking to the

780
00:45:02.670 --> 00:45:07.760
ancient Jewish people, because you were strangers in Egypt and

781
00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:10.340
you were in the same situation at one point. Okay,

782
00:45:10.500 --> 00:45:17.039
so that's true. But also, that's for people who are

783
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:26.219
willing to meet certain qualifications. So as the Bible also says,

784
00:45:26.820 --> 00:45:31.130
in verse after verse after verse, to come into someone

785
00:45:31.230 --> 00:45:36.309
else's country and to be their guest or even citizen,

786
00:45:36.809 --> 00:45:40.780
you have to obey all the laws. And this is

787
00:45:40.820 --> 00:45:43.599
the Old Testament, right? You have to adopt their religion.

788
00:45:44.280 --> 00:45:50.699
You have to do all your social obligations. Uh, so

789
00:45:50.739 --> 00:45:52.789
in other words, you have to keep the, this, you

790
00:45:52.809 --> 00:45:55.650
have to keep the same feasts that we keep as

791
00:45:55.710 --> 00:46:01.309
ancient Israelites. You got to, uh, pay all the taxes. Uh,

792
00:46:01.710 --> 00:46:04.469
and it goes, it goes without saying that you've got

793
00:46:04.510 --> 00:46:07.230
to be there with the permission of the people because

794
00:46:07.409 --> 00:46:08.650
that's the, that's the law.

795
00:46:09.050 --> 00:46:09.289
Right.

796
00:46:10.030 --> 00:46:11.769
Uh, and the other thing too, Jim, you know, and

797
00:46:11.869 --> 00:46:14.269
even the spaghetti, the old spaghetti Westerns picked up on

798
00:46:14.309 --> 00:46:16.590
this too. When a stranger would come to town, they,

799
00:46:16.789 --> 00:46:19.989
they say, Hey, are you here to hurt? or to

800
00:46:20.030 --> 00:46:21.289
help us, right?

801
00:46:22.670 --> 00:46:22.929
Right.

802
00:46:23.469 --> 00:46:24.250
Well, that's right.

803
00:46:24.469 --> 00:46:27.369
So it's like the first thing is, right, are you

804
00:46:27.389 --> 00:46:29.690
here peaceably? But secondly, it's not enough just to be

805
00:46:29.710 --> 00:46:33.130
here peaceably. You've got to be ready to roll up

806
00:46:33.150 --> 00:46:40.050
your sleeves and help build this country. Now, most immigrants,

807
00:46:41.010 --> 00:46:44.340
you know, they come to work. But the point is,

808
00:46:44.460 --> 00:46:50.800
if you're breaking laws, you're committing identity theft, you know,

809
00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:55.039
fake IDs, et cetera. That's not following the biblical teaching

810
00:46:55.079 --> 00:47:00.360
at all. That's flouting it. So it's a different matter. Now,

811
00:47:00.500 --> 00:47:03.360
we hear about this business of sanctuary cities a lot, right?

812
00:47:03.949 --> 00:47:06.730
And you may have heard that that's in the Bible.

813
00:47:07.369 --> 00:47:09.449
And there is such a thing as sanctuary cities in

814
00:47:09.489 --> 00:47:12.630
the Bible, but it means something completely different. So a

815
00:47:12.670 --> 00:47:17.769
sanctuary city was a place for, so they had tribal

816
00:47:17.809 --> 00:47:21.409
culture there. They were hot-blooded. It was the ancient world.

817
00:47:21.820 --> 00:47:26.840
So if someone accidentally kills someone, which, you know, in

818
00:47:26.880 --> 00:47:31.099
that world happens not infrequently. They may be having a

819
00:47:31.139 --> 00:47:34.639
fist fight and someone lands a sucker punch and someone

820
00:47:34.739 --> 00:47:36.929
hits their head on a stone, they're dead. Okay, what

821
00:47:36.949 --> 00:47:42.130
does someone do? Sanctuary cities were, I believe, six cities

822
00:47:42.170 --> 00:47:46.969
in ancient Israel designated that if you accidentally killed someone.

823
00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:48.940
You could flee.

824
00:47:48.599 --> 00:47:51.840
There, and they were obligated to hold you for trial.

825
00:47:52.579 --> 00:47:52.800
Right.

826
00:47:53.019 --> 00:47:58.929
Because the risk was that the relatives of the person

827
00:47:58.989 --> 00:48:01.429
killed would just kill you immediately out of hand.

828
00:48:02.170 --> 00:48:02.389
Right.

829
00:48:02.610 --> 00:48:06.269
And instead, the Bible's saying, no, actually, everyone gets a trial.

830
00:48:06.869 --> 00:48:07.030
Yes.

831
00:48:07.050 --> 00:48:07.679
So you go here.

832
00:48:07.739 --> 00:48:10.179
Well, even in the Old Testament teaching, Jim, it was,

833
00:48:10.650 --> 00:48:13.260
Even if you did it on purpose, you could run

834
00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:19.400
to a sanctuary city and avoid execution because it was

835
00:48:20.380 --> 00:48:25.820
the responsibility of the sanctuary city to hold court and determine.

836
00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:30.250
Yeah, that's right. So it's like, right, if there was

837
00:48:30.949 --> 00:48:36.030
a murder, whatever circumstances, the thing was, what the Bible

838
00:48:36.050 --> 00:48:39.150
is saying is we're going to uphold the law. We're

839
00:48:39.170 --> 00:48:41.250
going to have a trial. We're going to uphold the law,

840
00:48:41.329 --> 00:48:43.150
not just let people take the law in their own hands.

841
00:48:43.389 --> 00:48:45.769
That was the purpose of sanctuary cities. Now, the modern

842
00:48:45.789 --> 00:48:50.619
sanctuary cities, as done by Los Angeles, California, and other places,

843
00:48:51.219 --> 00:48:54.440
is to flout, and certain whole states, right, is to

844
00:48:54.599 --> 00:48:58.639
flout the law, not to enforce the law. So they've

845
00:48:58.659 --> 00:49:03.760
turned sanctuary cities upside down, and it's really, it's kind

846
00:49:03.800 --> 00:49:06.219
of gross because.

847
00:49:06.500 --> 00:49:10.079
How does it comport with the constitutions? Because basically what

848
00:49:10.099 --> 00:49:13.679
you've done is you're setting up a form of government

849
00:49:13.760 --> 00:49:14.949
within a form of government.

850
00:49:15.530 --> 00:49:15.750
Right.

851
00:49:15.909 --> 00:49:16.409
Well, that's right.

852
00:49:16.550 --> 00:49:20.280
And so in the Old Testament, where they talk about

853
00:49:21.960 --> 00:49:27.179
the sanctuary cities, what they were doing was to enable

854
00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:32.449
the biblical law to be enforced. So that was their constitution.

855
00:49:32.750 --> 00:49:34.050
Yeah, that there was due process.

856
00:49:34.590 --> 00:49:34.849
Right.

857
00:49:35.369 --> 00:49:39.179
And so in order that the constitution... that they were

858
00:49:39.219 --> 00:49:44.369
given could be enforced correctly, they made these cities so

859
00:49:44.389 --> 00:49:47.349
someone could go and get a fair trial. So what

860
00:49:47.389 --> 00:49:50.889
we're doing in America is trying to, with the sanctuary cities,

861
00:49:50.909 --> 00:49:53.610
not we, but people who are doing this, they're trying

862
00:49:53.690 --> 00:49:58.010
to overthrow the Constitution of the United States, take the

863
00:49:58.050 --> 00:50:02.449
law into their own hands. And this, as we can't

864
00:50:02.570 --> 00:50:06.260
ever get tired of saying, the United States Constitution gives

865
00:50:06.340 --> 00:50:10.889
the sole authority for immigration and naturalization to the hands

866
00:50:10.929 --> 00:50:14.139
of the United States Congress. That's why we at NumbersUSA

867
00:50:14.219 --> 00:50:18.820
are always talking about Congress, because what the president does

868
00:50:19.059 --> 00:50:21.659
is only to enforce the laws of Congress. He does

869
00:50:21.760 --> 00:50:24.429
not make the laws on immigration.

870
00:50:24.710 --> 00:50:29.000
Nobody can but Congress. I want to complete the circle

871
00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:32.449
that you've set up here in sanctuary cities. Unlike what

872
00:50:32.590 --> 00:50:35.489
it says in the Bible, there was due process. You

873
00:50:35.530 --> 00:50:39.489
came in, you were either innocent or guilty. If you

874
00:50:39.530 --> 00:50:42.440
were guilty, then end of story. If you were innocent,

875
00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:49.019
you remain there until the ruling priest, the chief priest dies. retired.

876
00:50:49.400 --> 00:50:54.989
Then you could go back to your hometown and be justified. However,

877
00:50:55.010 --> 00:50:59.110
the sanctuary city in America is, there's no due process.

878
00:50:59.489 --> 00:51:03.010
You're there hiding from due process.

879
00:51:03.530 --> 00:51:03.989
Exactly.

880
00:51:04.110 --> 00:51:09.449
It's upside down, and it's really disrespectful to the Bible

881
00:51:09.929 --> 00:51:13.349
and its teaching to say that this is, the Bible

882
00:51:13.550 --> 00:51:16.010
is saying that the law does not apply to you

883
00:51:16.090 --> 00:51:18.139
because we We are better than the law.

884
00:51:18.440 --> 00:51:18.659
No.

885
00:51:19.039 --> 00:51:21.480
So, and then there's the matter. I want to bring

886
00:51:21.519 --> 00:51:24.929
up the matter of what churches say. So churches, of course,

887
00:51:24.949 --> 00:51:27.590
there's hundreds of thousands of churches in America. They, a

888
00:51:27.590 --> 00:51:31.889
lot of them say different things, but some big churches, uh,

889
00:51:32.110 --> 00:51:35.190
I have sent out some confused messaging. So the Catholic church,

890
00:51:35.250 --> 00:51:38.630
for example, the bishops, even the Pope had made some

891
00:51:38.690 --> 00:51:45.510
statements that could be interpreted as, uh, could be interpreted as, Oh, permissive.

892
00:51:46.389 --> 00:51:49.469
on illegal immigration, but you know what? It doesn't actually

893
00:51:49.530 --> 00:51:53.349
matter what they say because it would had the Catholic

894
00:51:53.369 --> 00:51:56.929
church had no teaching on this, but in the actual

895
00:51:57.389 --> 00:52:00.860
catechism of the Catholic church, I mean, this is the

896
00:52:00.920 --> 00:52:05.699
doctrine cannot be undone by any Bishop, uh, is it

897
00:52:05.739 --> 00:52:09.179
has a paragraph that talks about the rights to leave

898
00:52:09.219 --> 00:52:13.059
your country and the rights of countries and the responsibility

899
00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:17.079
for the countries who receive immigrants. And it says that

900
00:52:19.940 --> 00:52:24.519
everyone who has been mistreated or can't make a living

901
00:52:24.559 --> 00:52:28.219
or whatever in their own country should be able to

902
00:52:28.260 --> 00:52:32.760
leave their country freely. And it has a little bit

903
00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:37.139
of a process there. And then to the concern, which

904
00:52:37.300 --> 00:52:40.219
we agree with that, but the concern is, I mean,

905
00:52:40.260 --> 00:52:42.389
if you're starving in your country, you can go try

906
00:52:42.409 --> 00:52:45.949
to find a better place. But there's a huge, huge catch.

907
00:52:46.610 --> 00:52:51.030
Someone has to be receiving you. And there's nothing about

908
00:52:51.469 --> 00:52:55.139
someone being able just to barge into another country.

909
00:52:57.579 --> 00:52:58.639
What it says is.

910
00:53:00.699 --> 00:53:05.719
Nations who are wealthy have a responsibility to bring in

911
00:53:05.780 --> 00:53:08.539
people who can't make it, who are starving or whatever,

912
00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:10.909
to the extent that they can afford to do so.

913
00:53:11.409 --> 00:53:14.630
This is the key. It's like the extent... and it says,

914
00:53:15.170 --> 00:53:21.670
and these, these, uh, individuals have, uh, if, if the

915
00:53:21.710 --> 00:53:23.679
country feels like they can afford to bring them in

916
00:53:23.909 --> 00:53:27.280
and does, it says, these people must treat the nation, uh,

917
00:53:27.559 --> 00:53:31.960
with respect and obey its laws. So again, so it's

918
00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:34.539
actually the same teaching as we're talking about because the

919
00:53:34.559 --> 00:53:38.710
Catholic teaching their actual doctrine and the catechism comes right

920
00:53:38.750 --> 00:53:39.690
out of the old Testament.

921
00:53:39.929 --> 00:53:41.289
It's the same teaching. Right.

922
00:53:41.849 --> 00:53:42.050
Right.

923
00:53:42.510 --> 00:53:47.389
Well, uh, Now, Christian believers in America are often lectured about,

924
00:53:48.349 --> 00:53:52.650
you know, what the Bible and their teachers, what they're

925
00:53:52.690 --> 00:53:57.010
teaching about immigration. But to your point here, you know,

926
00:53:57.070 --> 00:54:00.000
it's like anything. And of course, you know, the apostle

927
00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:03.780
Paul warned the churches to be careful of false doctrine.

928
00:54:04.460 --> 00:54:08.340
And this is a requirement of the faithful to be

929
00:54:08.420 --> 00:54:12.820
discerning and to understand what is going on here. And, uh,

930
00:54:13.079 --> 00:54:15.480
you know, and I think that, uh, we're, we're taking

931
00:54:15.539 --> 00:54:18.179
an easy way out and looking at it on an

932
00:54:18.260 --> 00:54:21.400
emotional basis instead of the way the law would look

933
00:54:21.500 --> 00:54:22.000
at it, Jim.

934
00:54:22.500 --> 00:54:26.460
Well, I mean, the, the overall teaching of scripture is

935
00:54:26.500 --> 00:54:31.460
that duties of government is to take care of its people. And, uh,

936
00:54:31.900 --> 00:54:35.760
and the, the preamble to the U S constitution says we,

937
00:54:35.820 --> 00:54:40.139
the people of the United States in order to promote

938
00:54:40.159 --> 00:54:46.340
the general welfare and establish justice. This is the reason

939
00:54:46.440 --> 00:54:50.219
we've established this United States government.

940
00:54:50.900 --> 00:54:52.710
And so the.

941
00:54:52.639 --> 00:54:58.849
Government has the authority, it has the, what we say, legitimacy.

942
00:54:59.250 --> 00:55:02.650
The legitimacy, as long as it does those things, right?

943
00:55:02.730 --> 00:55:08.449
So the Congress- It's legitimacy and also responsibility to ensure that. Right, right.

944
00:55:08.789 --> 00:55:12.550
Well, that's right. So it's fortunately, I mean, sometimes, and

945
00:55:13.179 --> 00:55:16.559
sometimes it's, it's difficult. Like questions of war and peace

946
00:55:16.619 --> 00:55:20.579
are really difficult, right? Cause, cause we're called to be peacemakers,

947
00:55:20.880 --> 00:55:23.320
but at the same time with something really unjust is

948
00:55:23.340 --> 00:55:24.219
happening overseas.

949
00:55:24.480 --> 00:55:25.519
We have to take a look at that.

950
00:55:25.639 --> 00:55:28.599
It's difficult, but this matter of immigration is not that

951
00:55:28.639 --> 00:55:33.119
difficult because the clear teaching of the Bible is that

952
00:55:33.619 --> 00:55:36.460
we are to be kind to strangers. Oh, it's very important.

953
00:55:36.980 --> 00:55:40.800
A lot of the teaching about be kind to the strangers,

954
00:55:42.099 --> 00:55:48.050
the context is do not have a different law for them.

955
00:55:48.269 --> 00:55:52.349
In other words, if someone's foreign-born, you can just, you know,

956
00:55:52.849 --> 00:55:56.170
you can imprison them without a trial. If someone's foreign-born,

957
00:55:56.210 --> 00:55:57.070
you can just kill them.

958
00:55:57.489 --> 00:55:57.750
No.

959
00:55:58.659 --> 00:56:02.579
No, you have to obey the same laws, but you

960
00:56:02.619 --> 00:56:03.840
get treated just as well.

961
00:56:04.019 --> 00:56:05.300
You're subject to the same law.

962
00:56:05.559 --> 00:56:05.840
Exactly.

963
00:56:05.860 --> 00:56:05.980
Right.

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00:56:06.309 --> 00:56:08.530
Well, we're going to leave it there, Jim. As always,

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00:56:08.570 --> 00:56:11.690
I mean, there's no question, this is a bit complex,

966
00:56:11.949 --> 00:56:14.989
but I don't think it has to be. And the

967
00:56:15.010 --> 00:56:17.170
way you've begun to lay this out here, I think,

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00:56:17.269 --> 00:56:20.309
is something for our listeners to grab a hold of

969
00:56:20.550 --> 00:56:24.190
and to decide for themselves what they're hearing from their

970
00:56:24.230 --> 00:56:27.809
church and their pastors in the pulpit. Is it truly

971
00:56:27.869 --> 00:56:30.449
what the Bible says, or are they just telling you

972
00:56:30.489 --> 00:56:35.409
that without, you know, without surety and without, you know,

973
00:56:35.429 --> 00:56:36.170
without backup.

974
00:56:36.429 --> 00:56:39.880
Church members can find these things themselves and their doctrine

975
00:56:40.039 --> 00:56:43.079
in the Bible. This is not that obscure. Just look

976
00:56:43.139 --> 00:56:47.119
it up and you say, oh, actually, Pastor, it may

977
00:56:47.179 --> 00:56:48.940
say something a little different than what you're saying.

978
00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:53.019
Exactly. Jim Robbs, the Vice President of Operations for Numbers USA.

979
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Thank you, Jim. Take care. Bye-bye, Bill.

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Bill Martinez live.

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Hey, right now, it's six minutes after the top of

998
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the hour. I'm Bill Martinez, and he's Scott Powell, senior

999
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fellow at the Discovery Institute and author.

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00:58:15.530 --> 00:58:16.130
Hey, Mr.

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00:58:16.170 --> 00:58:17.090
Scott, good morning to you.

1002
00:58:17.380 --> 00:58:17.739
Hi, Bill.

1003
00:58:17.760 --> 00:58:18.699
Good to be with you.

1004
00:58:19.090 --> 00:58:21.980
Hey, good to be with you. A somber week, and

1005
00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:25.739
this will carry over for several days with this, the

1006
00:58:26.079 --> 00:58:30.099
25th anniversary of 9-11, huh? Yeah, it's hard to.

1007
00:58:30.059 --> 00:58:33.579
Believe that it's been 25 years. It was such a

1008
00:58:33.639 --> 00:58:37.940
defining moment in our country at that time, and it's...

1009
00:58:39.570 --> 00:58:43.150
I think we've lost the lessons of 9-11, frankly.

1010
00:58:44.130 --> 00:58:47.650
Well, no question. I mean, you think about, I don't

1011
00:58:47.809 --> 00:58:50.519
know if you saw this, Scott, but this is incredible here.

1012
00:58:52.420 --> 00:58:55.619
You know, you've got the mayor of New York who

1013
00:58:55.719 --> 00:58:59.199
signs two executive orders at a formal ceremony last week.

1014
00:58:59.940 --> 00:59:03.320
One order designated Friday, September the 11th, 2026, as a

1015
00:59:03.360 --> 00:59:06.980
day of remembrance and service and recognition of the 25th

1016
00:59:07.039 --> 00:59:08.860
anniversary of the 9-11 attacks, right?

1017
00:59:09.539 --> 00:59:09.690
Well.

1018
00:59:09.969 --> 00:59:12.800
when mamdani finishes signing the order this is according to

1019
00:59:12.840 --> 00:59:17.179
gary bauer he hands the ceremonial pen to new york

1020
00:59:17.219 --> 00:59:21.920
police uh department commissioner jessica tish now elected officials often

1021
00:59:21.960 --> 00:59:24.699
give the pens they use to sign important documents to

1022
00:59:24.800 --> 00:59:27.539
others as a way of honoring their work on a

1023
00:59:27.559 --> 00:59:31.510
particular issue right Well, Mamdani wasn't giving the pen to

1024
00:59:31.550 --> 00:59:35.050
the police commissioner. He asked Tish to pass the pen

1025
00:59:35.230 --> 00:59:39.380
on to Ramzi Qasem, who was standing next to her. Now,

1026
00:59:39.449 --> 00:59:43.659
Qasem happens to be, you know, which is quite interesting

1027
00:59:43.699 --> 00:59:46.739
because you go, well, why would Mamdani want Qasem to

1028
00:59:46.800 --> 00:59:50.440
have the pen, right? Well, he's the mayor's chief legal counsel,

1029
00:59:50.900 --> 00:59:54.269
and the official reason for handing the pen to Qasem

1030
00:59:54.630 --> 00:59:58.039
is because his office reportedly said, helped to draft the

1031
00:59:58.099 --> 01:00:02.239
executive orders that Mamdani signed. But no one's buying that explanation,

1032
01:00:02.639 --> 01:00:06.320
because in 2009, you might recall, it was Qasem who

1033
01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:12.530
represented Ahmed al-Darby, an al-Qaeda terrorist who was once held

1034
01:00:12.590 --> 01:00:18.289
at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Al-Darby is the brother-in-law of Khalid al-Midhar,

1035
01:00:18.909 --> 01:00:22.750
one of the al-Qaeda hijackers who crashed American Airlines Flight

1036
01:00:22.750 --> 01:00:27.530
77 into the Pentagon. So to your point, here we

1037
01:00:27.630 --> 01:00:31.750
are 25 years later after this deal. I'm not even

1038
01:00:31.849 --> 01:00:37.980
sure we made that fast a transition after America was

1039
01:00:38.039 --> 01:00:39.159
attacked at Pearl Harbor.

1040
01:00:40.679 --> 01:00:44.119
No, I think the period in which we passed is

1041
01:00:44.179 --> 01:00:49.690
like no other in terms of the transformation of our country,

1042
01:00:49.769 --> 01:00:55.469
the transformation, the undermining of truth, and the mainstreaming of

1043
01:00:55.679 --> 01:01:01.239
false narratives, and just the general gaslighting of the American people. Right.

1044
01:01:01.280 --> 01:01:04.380
So that they don't really remember, they don't really understand

1045
01:01:04.440 --> 01:01:07.599
the real issues here, and that Mom Domini could do

1046
01:01:07.639 --> 01:01:11.659
that without many people.

1047
01:01:14.300 --> 01:01:17.159
But it's a combination though, Scott. It's not only the

1048
01:01:17.199 --> 01:01:20.000
people's lack of memory, but the other part has been

1049
01:01:20.510 --> 01:01:26.099
because of what's happened with hate speech and this Islamophobia,

1050
01:01:26.440 --> 01:01:30.139
how we had to protect this religion of peace, supposedly.

1051
01:01:30.159 --> 01:01:32.800
Thank you very much, George Bush, if you remember. And

1052
01:01:32.860 --> 01:01:35.840
this helps set the tone to where we are today,

1053
01:01:35.860 --> 01:01:41.179
to where now, in a sense, the enemy is within us.

1054
01:01:41.239 --> 01:01:46.480
They came here in, you might metaphorically say, in Trojan horses.

1055
01:01:47.039 --> 01:01:50.820
They came and have infiltrated our country. They've stopped us

1056
01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:53.760
from speaking and to be able to process what's going

1057
01:01:53.860 --> 01:01:57.599
on here. And, you know, and so you can't say anything.

1058
01:01:57.699 --> 01:02:00.710
And then also you've got these foreign professors that have

1059
01:02:00.730 --> 01:02:04.369
taken over these universities and have been gaslighting and sending

1060
01:02:04.469 --> 01:02:07.889
out this new narrative spin to the young kids to

1061
01:02:07.929 --> 01:02:10.250
get them think that as what was it? One of

1062
01:02:10.269 --> 01:02:14.269
the congressmen said, well, on 9-11, you know, something happened.

1063
01:02:15.369 --> 01:02:15.550
Yes.

1064
01:02:16.090 --> 01:02:17.280
Something that had effect, right?

1065
01:02:17.800 --> 01:02:18.039
Yes.

1066
01:02:18.500 --> 01:02:22.909
Some people did it. yes not radical islamists who hate

1067
01:02:22.949 --> 01:02:26.250
america and who are at war with us and that's

1068
01:02:26.449 --> 01:02:29.349
that's what people need to remember that we are at

1069
01:02:29.469 --> 01:02:34.159
war the united states is under attack we have this

1070
01:02:34.300 --> 01:02:37.900
the people that that flew the planes into the world

1071
01:02:37.940 --> 01:02:42.420
trade tatter are still at war with us in different.

1072
01:02:42.159 --> 01:02:46.199
Ways exactly well yeah and here it is that day

1073
01:02:46.219 --> 01:02:54.889
uh almost 3 000 people killed including Pennsylvania, the Pentagon, and,

1074
01:02:54.909 --> 01:03:00.230
of course, the World Trade Centers, and 19 terrorists. Also,

1075
01:03:00.269 --> 01:03:02.489
the thing to note, when I went to the memorial,

1076
01:03:02.909 --> 01:03:05.380
it was interesting, Scott, and I was very touched by

1077
01:03:05.820 --> 01:03:08.119
the names of some of the women. And they would

1078
01:03:08.159 --> 01:03:11.679
give the woman's name, and they'd say, and her unborn child.

1079
01:03:12.400 --> 01:03:15.880
You know, there's 11 notices on the memorial of an

1080
01:03:16.039 --> 01:03:20.909
unborn child that died that day as well. So, yeah,

1081
01:03:21.110 --> 01:03:25.449
it's just it's heartbreaking. But what makes it worse is

1082
01:03:25.489 --> 01:03:29.409
that it's almost like and again, I put this a

1083
01:03:29.429 --> 01:03:30.949
little bit on George Bush because I think it was

1084
01:03:30.969 --> 01:03:35.320
mishandled in how they handled this is that I think

1085
01:03:35.360 --> 01:03:43.059
the people's grief process was blunted because you've got to

1086
01:03:43.119 --> 01:03:46.940
go through the grief process and they weren't allowed to.

1087
01:03:47.269 --> 01:03:51.150
to say or think certain things because somehow that was

1088
01:03:51.210 --> 01:03:58.440
socially unacceptable and stressful. Yeah, I agree with you, Bill.

1089
01:04:00.699 --> 01:04:03.960
You know, other things happened at the end of the

1090
01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:08.989
Bush administration and continued into the Obama administration to remove

1091
01:04:09.590 --> 01:04:14.210
from the lexicon of the FBI and the security services

1092
01:04:14.889 --> 01:04:19.469
any reference to the radical nature of Islam.

1093
01:04:19.690 --> 01:04:20.210
Do you know that?

1094
01:04:21.090 --> 01:04:21.329
Yes.

1095
01:04:21.989 --> 01:04:28.300
So therefore, you know, Islam is the source of terrorism.

1096
01:04:28.880 --> 01:04:31.960
It is driving it. It is an ideology, a jihadi

1097
01:04:32.079 --> 01:04:35.679
ideology that drives the terrorists to do what they do.

1098
01:04:36.239 --> 01:04:39.280
All under the guise of a peaceful religion. Lest we

1099
01:04:39.320 --> 01:04:40.579
say different, right?

1100
01:04:40.780 --> 01:04:43.760
You know, I don't think they call themselves a peaceful religion.

1101
01:04:44.880 --> 01:04:48.360
Well, Kerr and others will say that because that's the

1102
01:04:48.400 --> 01:04:51.059
way the West has picked up on that mantle.

1103
01:04:51.639 --> 01:04:51.920
Yes.

1104
01:04:52.219 --> 01:04:52.440
Yeah.

1105
01:04:52.460 --> 01:04:54.880
It's a false front. They're creating a false front.

1106
01:04:54.920 --> 01:05:01.760
They're camouflaging the real character of Islam. What is true

1107
01:05:01.880 --> 01:05:06.070
Islam is all in their documents, in the Koran. And

1108
01:05:06.210 --> 01:05:08.130
there are other religious documents.

1109
01:05:08.469 --> 01:05:10.730
It's in their legacy, Scott, because if you look at

1110
01:05:10.769 --> 01:05:13.250
what they've done in other countries, what have they done?

1111
01:05:14.550 --> 01:05:19.489
Well, you know, unlike Christianity and Judaism, I mean, Judaism

1112
01:05:19.840 --> 01:05:23.960
doesn't really try to proselytize very much. Christianity is, we're

1113
01:05:24.019 --> 01:05:27.840
called to proselytize, but we do so through love.

1114
01:05:28.300 --> 01:05:31.340
Yeah. We're not throwing people off the tops of buildings.

1115
01:05:31.619 --> 01:05:32.320
No, no.

1116
01:05:32.599 --> 01:05:37.670
Whereas Islam... basically it's a religion that is spread by

1117
01:05:37.710 --> 01:05:42.579
the sword by force that, that is all in there, uh,

1118
01:05:42.929 --> 01:05:44.269
in their holy documents.

1119
01:05:44.909 --> 01:05:45.130
Right.

1120
01:05:45.389 --> 01:05:51.000
They're called to do this. They're called to make war. They're, they're,

1121
01:05:51.059 --> 01:05:53.579
they're called to kill Christians and dominate them.

1122
01:05:55.019 --> 01:05:55.239
Yeah.

1123
01:05:55.880 --> 01:05:56.039
Yeah.

1124
01:05:56.059 --> 01:05:59.460
That's their, uh, that's in their Quran. It's in their, uh,

1125
01:06:00.519 --> 01:06:04.159
in their, you know, their whole culture is, you know,

1126
01:06:04.199 --> 01:06:07.360
down to the point that, you know, it justifies honor killings,

1127
01:06:07.380 --> 01:06:08.880
the killings of your own children.

1128
01:06:08.900 --> 01:06:16.039
That's right. So it's, you know, I've always, I always

1129
01:06:16.079 --> 01:06:19.159
believe that, you know, if you don't, if you're, if

1130
01:06:19.239 --> 01:06:23.929
you cannot base your public policies on truthful understanding, on

1131
01:06:24.030 --> 01:06:27.289
thorough and truthful understanding, you're not going to have a

1132
01:06:27.329 --> 01:06:28.849
successful public policy.

1133
01:06:29.409 --> 01:06:29.650
Right.

1134
01:06:30.269 --> 01:06:35.039
So, We're still in this problem in America where we,

1135
01:06:35.920 --> 01:06:40.239
you know, where we have normal, you know, we transpose

1136
01:06:40.340 --> 01:06:43.400
onto others beliefs that we have, but they don't share.

1137
01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:44.199
Right.

1138
01:06:44.219 --> 01:06:48.440
We somehow think that by being nice and transposing our

1139
01:06:49.139 --> 01:06:54.360
values on them, that somehow they'll come around and live

1140
01:06:54.409 --> 01:06:56.130
in peace and respect for us.

1141
01:06:57.150 --> 01:06:57.349
Right.

1142
01:06:57.590 --> 01:06:59.469
Well, we're talking with Scott Powell and we've got more

1143
01:06:59.489 --> 01:07:00.730
from him after this. Stay with us.

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Hey, we're back with you. Bill Martinez here along with

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Scott Powell from the Discovery Institute. His book, great book,

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Rediscovering America. And this is all a timely discussion that

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we're having right now. It seems that we come back

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to revisit first principles and these things that have made

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America so great. But then he's got his new book

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that's coming out soon. Scott, you want to fill the

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people in on that one?

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Well, the new book is entitled 1776 Rising. Subtitle is

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America's Second War of Independence. And really, the Second War

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of Independence is all about restoring America's foundation to truth,

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you know, to the principles of the Constitution, equal justice

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under the law, to First Amendment rights, and all those

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things that have basically been foundational to our country, but

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01:12:33.420 --> 01:12:36.880
we have been stripped of them over a period of time,

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particularly that was accelerated during the COVID period where we

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lost our rights. We lost our freedom, actually.

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Yeah. We surrendered is what we did. Scott, you think

1245
01:12:49.869 --> 01:12:56.970
about this, 250 years, over a million Americans have paid

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01:12:57.010 --> 01:13:00.350
the ultimate price for our liberty. And here it is

1247
01:13:00.439 --> 01:13:03.859
slipping through our fingers. And of course, nothing new here.

1248
01:13:04.079 --> 01:13:07.439
Reagan said we're but one generation away. And here we

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01:13:07.560 --> 01:13:11.180
are realizing his words as they echo through our ears.

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01:13:11.640 --> 01:13:13.979
And as we have this sense that If we don't

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01:13:14.020 --> 01:13:17.239
do something, this thing is really going to go south

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01:13:17.319 --> 01:13:22.699
on us, and we see this. The kindness, which is

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01:13:22.779 --> 01:13:26.270
what Tocqueville had talked about, the goodness of America, our

1254
01:13:26.329 --> 01:13:29.829
goodness is being used against us. People are taking advantage

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01:13:29.949 --> 01:13:32.590
of us, and we need to say enough of this

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and stop and protect these liberties that we've enjoyed for

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01:13:38.210 --> 01:13:41.069
250 years, that a million Americans have paid that ultimate

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01:13:41.100 --> 01:13:44.960
price for. I mean, to me, it's so disrespectful to,

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01:13:46.189 --> 01:13:48.710
you know, to just let it go with a whimper,

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01:13:48.970 --> 01:13:49.970
it seems. You know what I mean?

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Absolutely.

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01:13:51.369 --> 01:13:54.069
I mean, we can start with recognizing that we don't

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want people in our country who hate America. We don't

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want to bring immigrants into our country that are not

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aligned with the values that have made America great.

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Exactly.

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And yet when we open the borders under Biden, all

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kinds of crazy people came into our country. And now,

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01:14:17.470 --> 01:14:20.170
of course, Trump ran on a platform. One of his

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primary planks of this platform was the removal of illegal immigrants,

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all illegal immigrants from the United States.

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And wouldn't you say he got a mandate for that?

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Yes, he has a mandate for it.

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01:14:30.810 --> 01:14:34.920
And so why are people interfering with that mandate for

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01:14:34.960 --> 01:14:37.710
him to clear these illegal... I mean, We have a

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01:14:37.869 --> 01:14:40.270
massive amount of illegals. I mean, they're talking, I mean,

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01:14:40.289 --> 01:14:43.489
the numbers vary depending on who has control of the microphone,

1278
01:14:43.810 --> 01:14:46.909
you know, eight, 10, 15, 20 million people, you know,

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01:14:47.010 --> 01:14:50.529
under the Biden administration, but less they ignore already, we

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had 25 million, at least in the country that were

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01:14:53.220 --> 01:14:55.739
illegal to begin with that have been here for decades.

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01:14:56.239 --> 01:14:59.560
And so it's like, look at, you know, something has,

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01:14:59.800 --> 01:15:04.100
has to be done. And they, they've incentivized people to

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01:15:04.180 --> 01:15:07.010
leave the country peacefully and They have given them money

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01:15:07.250 --> 01:15:12.409
even to leave. But still, we've got some bad hombres

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01:15:12.449 --> 01:15:17.039
here who are killing our citizens. And that is unacceptable.

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01:15:17.739 --> 01:15:21.199
And I don't care. I mean, I'm sorry. You know,

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01:15:21.220 --> 01:15:23.680
when people go out there and they want to get

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01:15:23.760 --> 01:15:29.239
into a combat situation with federal officials and they end

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01:15:29.300 --> 01:15:32.920
up getting hurt because they're being knuckleheads. I mean, come on.

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You know, that's on them, Scott.

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01:15:35.729 --> 01:15:39.229
Let's be clear. These are not knuckleheads. These are people

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01:15:40.189 --> 01:15:44.680
that are resisting the police, trying to stop the police

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01:15:44.699 --> 01:15:45.699
from doing their job.

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01:15:45.760 --> 01:15:47.180
They're breaking the law, are they not?

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01:15:47.619 --> 01:15:51.359
They're breaking the law. ICE is in the law enforcement business, okay?

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They have a focused mission to apprehend illegal immigrants that

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don't have documentation and have no right to be in

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the country.

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That's the job of ICE, right?

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It stands for Immigration Customs Enforcement. Immigration enforcement is that

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01:16:08.810 --> 01:16:11.970
if you don't, if you're not here legally, you have

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01:16:12.010 --> 01:16:16.210
to leave the country. Trump ran on that platform, got

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01:16:16.390 --> 01:16:21.189
overwhelming support for it on both sides of the aisle,

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01:16:21.270 --> 01:16:27.800
I might add. Democrats too. So, you know, if you

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01:16:27.819 --> 01:16:30.779
pull a gun on a cop, the cop is trained

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to shoot you first.

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01:16:32.060 --> 01:16:32.840
Right, right.

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01:16:33.170 --> 01:16:35.609
You don't resist arrest by pulling a gun on a

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01:16:35.649 --> 01:16:39.819
police officer. So why do we think about ICE any differently?

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01:16:39.880 --> 01:16:43.520
They're in the law enforcement business. They're like police officers

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01:16:43.619 --> 01:16:46.260
carrying out the law with regard to immigration.

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01:16:46.619 --> 01:16:48.250
You use a.

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01:16:48.289 --> 01:16:52.149
Vehicle to threaten an ICE officer, you're going to get shot.

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01:16:52.649 --> 01:16:52.909
Right.

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01:16:53.770 --> 01:16:53.989
Right.

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01:16:54.310 --> 01:16:54.529
Yeah.

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01:16:54.590 --> 01:16:56.670
And look at what happened. I mean, look at how

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01:16:56.789 --> 01:17:01.130
injuries have increased during this period of time. you know,

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01:17:01.350 --> 01:17:04.949
on ICE officials that are doing what the American people

1321
01:17:04.979 --> 01:17:07.539
have called them to do. But the American people need

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01:17:07.560 --> 01:17:10.909
to come out en masse and support this effort instead of,

1323
01:17:11.340 --> 01:17:14.899
you know, folding to the narrative of the mainstream media

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01:17:14.920 --> 01:17:16.420
and some of these radicals, Scott.

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01:17:17.119 --> 01:17:18.840
Oh, I couldn't agree with you more, Bill. I mean,

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01:17:18.859 --> 01:17:22.619
this is a problem of, you know, of character and

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01:17:23.779 --> 01:17:27.590
the most important quality of character that protects all the

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01:17:27.649 --> 01:17:36.529
other rights is courage. And we have a diminished sense

1329
01:17:36.789 --> 01:17:41.659
of courage to stand up for what is right.

1330
01:17:43.420 --> 01:17:44.979
Well, and this goes back to what you and I

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01:17:45.020 --> 01:17:47.060
talked about. We talked about it with your book and

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01:17:47.520 --> 01:17:51.329
even before then about returning to first principles. If we're

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01:17:51.369 --> 01:17:54.329
going to expect any kind of, by God's grace and mercy,

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01:17:54.430 --> 01:17:57.960
another 250 years of this great American idea, We need

1335
01:17:57.979 --> 01:18:02.989
to re-embrace those values that really served as a foundation

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01:18:03.109 --> 01:18:08.449
and a launching pad for the superpower that we call America, Scott. Absolutely.

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01:18:08.470 --> 01:18:12.720
It's really, you know, we don't, you know, we have

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01:18:12.770 --> 01:18:15.699
something unique in America that other nations don't have.

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01:18:16.340 --> 01:18:18.640
We have what's known as moral authority.

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01:18:19.100 --> 01:18:23.100
And the moral authority comes from recognizing that people have

1341
01:18:23.220 --> 01:18:27.310
natural God-given rights that that are not given to them

1342
01:18:27.350 --> 01:18:30.739
by the government, but rather they exist because God has

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01:18:30.840 --> 01:18:33.159
given us those rights. We're the first nation in all

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01:18:33.180 --> 01:18:38.930
of human history to recognize that people have these God-given

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01:18:39.010 --> 01:18:43.989
rights and that they can't be taken away.

1346
01:18:47.760 --> 01:18:50.779
But the thing is, though, the people... themselves, we, the

1347
01:18:50.819 --> 01:18:54.649
people need to really believe that and fight for it

1348
01:18:54.770 --> 01:18:57.970
and stand against those forces that would want to take

1349
01:18:58.010 --> 01:19:02.750
that away from us a la COVID-19. Absolutely.

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01:19:03.310 --> 01:19:03.989
Absolutely.

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01:19:04.010 --> 01:19:09.050
I mean, we, we, we, you know, God is on

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01:19:09.130 --> 01:19:12.390
our side, but we have to, you know, we have

1353
01:19:12.430 --> 01:19:16.159
to stand up in order for God to protect us

1354
01:19:16.260 --> 01:19:18.520
and for God to work through us and for God

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01:19:18.560 --> 01:19:21.260
to do his work in our society. He's got to

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01:19:21.880 --> 01:19:25.840
find a few more people with the courage and the

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01:19:25.899 --> 01:19:29.550
conviction of his principles that he can work through.

1358
01:19:29.569 --> 01:19:32.869
Well, you just touched on something critical here. And the

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01:19:32.890 --> 01:19:37.449
question is, do you trust God? Of course we trust God. No, well,

1360
01:19:37.470 --> 01:19:39.529
you say, of course, but I'm saying right now, by

1361
01:19:39.569 --> 01:19:42.569
and large, you look over the landscape of America today.

1362
01:19:42.630 --> 01:19:44.770
And if you were to ask people in mass, do

1363
01:19:44.810 --> 01:19:48.399
you trust God? And you've got too many people today.

1364
01:19:48.439 --> 01:19:51.199
And now, you know, we're becoming more and more of

1365
01:19:51.239 --> 01:19:54.659
a 50-50 nation, a nation under God. The other people

1366
01:19:54.699 --> 01:19:57.739
are under God only knows what. But you ask them,

1367
01:19:57.760 --> 01:19:59.600
do you trust God? And they go, we don't even

1368
01:19:59.619 --> 01:20:00.420
know who God is.

1369
01:20:00.979 --> 01:20:01.420
That's right.

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01:20:01.680 --> 01:20:01.880
Yes.

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01:20:02.180 --> 01:20:02.359
Yeah.

1372
01:20:02.760 --> 01:20:03.159
Sadly.

1373
01:20:03.199 --> 01:20:03.300
What?

1374
01:20:04.060 --> 01:20:07.539
This is what happens when you, you know, when you

1375
01:20:07.600 --> 01:20:12.840
replace God with false idols and the idols are many fold.

1376
01:20:13.140 --> 01:20:14.220
You know, this is what.

1377
01:20:16.079 --> 01:20:21.079
Americans, you know, there's the economic success, you know, has

1378
01:20:21.119 --> 01:20:21.859
given people a.

1379
01:20:21.859 --> 01:20:23.439
Lot of false idols.

1380
01:20:23.970 --> 01:20:24.770
Yes, exactly.

1381
01:20:25.649 --> 01:20:29.130
And what we need is a return to the, you know,

1382
01:20:29.430 --> 01:20:32.850
to worshiping the true God. The God that gives us

1383
01:20:32.899 --> 01:20:35.210
a sense of meaning and fulfillment in our lives.

1384
01:20:36.590 --> 01:20:39.050
Yeah, the God that will square away this political divide

1385
01:20:39.069 --> 01:20:41.029
that we're dealing with right now, whether or not we

1386
01:20:41.729 --> 01:20:44.550
go the route of socialism or stay on the course

1387
01:20:44.590 --> 01:20:46.829
that we believe that God has led us on, this

1388
01:20:46.869 --> 01:20:54.029
capitalistic form of government. So here it is, because what

1389
01:20:54.069 --> 01:20:58.560
happens is socialism doesn't believe in God. Socialism believes it

1390
01:20:59.180 --> 01:21:01.079
is God. That's right.

1391
01:21:01.729 --> 01:21:06.050
But everyone should understand that socialism is the road to

1392
01:21:06.109 --> 01:21:13.920
decline because socialism does not work by godly principles. It's

1393
01:21:14.000 --> 01:21:18.779
a totally different system. It's based upon coercion and force.

1394
01:21:19.520 --> 01:21:21.960
It's not based on free choice.

1395
01:21:22.619 --> 01:21:26.359
Anti-God and anti-man. is what it comes down to. Well, Scott,

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01:21:26.380 --> 01:21:29.060
we got to leave it there for now. Thank you

1397
01:21:29.079 --> 01:21:31.000
so much for coming on as always. He's a senior

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01:21:31.039 --> 01:21:34.739
fellow at the Discovery Institute, a member on this committee

1399
01:21:34.800 --> 01:21:37.880
for the present danger, China, and an author. And he's

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got his new book coming out, 1776 Rising, America's Second

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War of Independence. Scott Powell. Thank you, Scott. Thank you, Bill.

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Hey, good morning. Welcome back. Bill Martinez here. We've got

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Kathy Buscio joining us. We're going to be talking Halloween,

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going beyond a typical travel interview. As you can see

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from the background, the lifestyle expert and TV host is

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live on location at Villatel Orlando Resort, huh?

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Right.

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How much fun? Yeah. How much fun are you having, huh?

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I mean, this isn't work for me. This is so

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much fun. I'm in a haunted house. I mean, how

1475
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is this?

1476
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I mean.

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What a great day.

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Well, exactly, because as we know, Halloween, as it should be,

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is more than a one-night celebration. And this year, Orlando

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is offering more than 90 days of seasonal fun through

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November the 8th. And joining us today, as I mentioned,

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is the lifestyle expert, influencer, and mom, Kathy Buccio, who

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is teaming up with Visit Orlando to share why the

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destination has become the Halloween vacation capital of America. Kathy,

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tell us all about it. What's going on?

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Well, why do we need one day, Bill, of Halloween

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when we can have 90 days.

1488
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Of Halloween, right?

1489
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I think Orlando's doing it, right?

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We got 90 days of fun. It's going through November 8th.

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I mean, there's, like I mentioned, a little bit for

1492
01:26:51.680 --> 01:26:54.319
everyone here. I mean, wake up on a Monday, we'll

1493
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do Halloween. Maybe next week we'll do a little more, right?

1494
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They have everything going on, so many events. They have

1495
01:26:59.319 --> 01:27:05.279
family-friendly festivals. They have haunted attractions, live entertainment. You know

1496
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that they have one of the largest Halloween horror conventions.

1497
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Here in Orlando. It's called Spooky Empire.

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But what's great is that you can come to Orlando,

1499
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enjoy all that Halloween fun, but build a whole itinerary

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around this. So maybe you're into a good old-fashioned trick-or-treating.

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01:27:21.470 --> 01:27:24.489
I personally love that. And then you're looking for some

1502
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serious scare, something a little scarier. You know, we're going

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to dive into the whole horror worlds of Orlando, as

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I like to say, because there's really something for everyone here.

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I think everyone could really enjoy Halloween the way they

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want to.

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What is it about Halloween? Why has it become such

1508
01:27:38.840 --> 01:27:40.920
a big vacation experience these days?

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01:27:42.890 --> 01:27:44.590
I think there's just so much to do. I think

1510
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there's so much to do, especially at a place like Orlando.

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01:27:47.449 --> 01:27:49.680
I think there's so many activities, and you want to

1512
01:27:49.720 --> 01:27:53.380
be able to experience them all, everything from kids to adults.

1513
01:27:53.560 --> 01:27:55.359
I think it's family-oriented, too.

1514
01:27:55.659 --> 01:27:57.819
You want to go to a place that has this offering,

1515
01:27:57.840 --> 01:27:59.899
all that. Orlando offers, as I mentioned, we've got a

1516
01:27:59.979 --> 01:28:03.310
spooky convention. Where else can you go for haunted houses

1517
01:28:03.390 --> 01:28:05.710
and live events? And maybe you want to catch a concert.

1518
01:28:05.770 --> 01:28:08.010
Maybe after that, jump into Hollywood. halloween horror nights at

1519
01:28:08.069 --> 01:28:10.430
universal but maybe the kids want to go to mickey's

1520
01:28:10.449 --> 01:28:13.670
not so scary halloween so again options and halloween just

1521
01:28:13.710 --> 01:28:16.229
brings out so much joy and fun uh when it

1522
01:28:16.260 --> 01:28:18.979
comes to kids and families i think that we can't

1523
01:28:19.020 --> 01:28:20.819
limit that to one day bill we need more of

1524
01:28:20.859 --> 01:28:22.300
that we need a little bit more joy in our

1525
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lives and halloween is giving us that.

1526
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Well i agree 100 and orlando is serving it up

1527
01:28:27.060 --> 01:28:29.979
big time i mean with all the you know you

1528
01:28:30.010 --> 01:28:33.149
just gave us a lineup of options how do you

1529
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know what to choose kathy.

1530
01:28:36.109 --> 01:28:39.529
I mean, it's the Halloween capital of America for a reason.

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And I'm not just talking about it, Bill. I'm living

1532
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it because I'm here. If you can see, I am

1533
01:28:44.779 --> 01:28:49.189
at Villatel Resort Orlando. This is the perfect spot to

1534
01:28:49.239 --> 01:28:51.229
kick off all the Halloween festivities.

1535
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First of all, I love this resort.

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01:28:52.649 --> 01:28:54.489
I personally have stayed here with my family and friends.

1537
01:28:54.930 --> 01:28:57.770
Great for big groups to stay at one of their villas.

1538
01:28:58.270 --> 01:29:00.770
And especially if you're coming for all the Halloween festivities,

1539
01:29:00.789 --> 01:29:01.649
this is where you want to go.

1540
01:29:02.029 --> 01:29:04.810
They have this haunted villa experience. I mean, enter at

1541
01:29:04.850 --> 01:29:06.909
your own risk. It is scary. I mean, they have

1542
01:29:06.970 --> 01:29:10.050
gone all out. We got the theme decor.

1543
01:29:10.090 --> 01:29:12.010
We got interactive surprises here.

1544
01:29:12.050 --> 01:29:15.029
We have spooky sounds. We have the lighting. We have

1545
01:29:15.069 --> 01:29:16.829
it all. We have a bat hanging from the ceiling.

1546
01:29:17.289 --> 01:29:20.289
I mean, they really didn't leave any corner here untouched.

1547
01:29:20.569 --> 01:29:22.689
But for the littles, there's so much going on too.

1548
01:29:22.750 --> 01:29:26.050
You can do the Halloween dance parties, a character.

1549
01:29:25.680 --> 01:29:26.270
Meet and greet.

1550
01:29:26.300 --> 01:29:26.989
How fun is that?

1551
01:29:27.579 --> 01:29:31.020
Floating pumpkin patch, trick or treat adventures, hands on arts

1552
01:29:31.079 --> 01:29:33.500
and crafts. And if you want to go beyond the resort,

1553
01:29:33.800 --> 01:29:35.609
you know, you have the Orlando Science Center.

1554
01:29:35.630 --> 01:29:36.430
They have stuff going on.

1555
01:29:36.449 --> 01:29:36.710
Dr.

1556
01:29:36.729 --> 01:29:37.409
Phillips Center.

1557
01:29:37.770 --> 01:29:41.899
Performing arts, Gatorland as well. So, I mean, there's something

1558
01:29:41.920 --> 01:29:44.180
for everyone. If you want to go to the theme parks, though,

1559
01:29:44.199 --> 01:29:45.560
I want to jump into that right away because I

1560
01:29:45.579 --> 01:29:46.720
know we don't have a lot of time, but I

1561
01:29:46.760 --> 01:29:47.399
can't talk.

1562
01:29:47.260 --> 01:29:49.760
About Orlando without talking theme parks. Right, exactly.

1563
01:29:49.779 --> 01:29:50.539
It's not so scary.

1564
01:29:50.560 --> 01:29:51.619
Halloween is back.

1565
01:29:51.920 --> 01:29:55.979
We got 35 years of Universal's Halloween Horror Nights.

1566
01:29:56.050 --> 01:29:58.810
We got SeaWorld. They have, during the day, they have

1567
01:29:58.869 --> 01:30:02.569
a spooktacular. In the evening, they have Hallowscream as well.

1568
01:30:02.590 --> 01:30:04.850
So they got you covered depending on how scary you

1569
01:30:04.869 --> 01:30:06.050
want to get this Halloween season.

1570
01:30:06.640 --> 01:30:08.779
Well, exactly. And the last thing you'll hear from the

1571
01:30:08.819 --> 01:30:14.439
kids is, Mom, Dad, I'm bored. How can you be bored?

1572
01:30:14.460 --> 01:30:18.960
That is not allowed, Bill. Not in Orlando, especially when

1573
01:30:18.979 --> 01:30:20.340
you're going to have all this Halloween fun.

1574
01:30:20.359 --> 01:30:20.979
And then guess what?

1575
01:30:21.060 --> 01:30:22.060
Mom and Dad are going to take you to a

1576
01:30:22.140 --> 01:30:25.260
really fun restaurant because it's probably Halloween themed because all

1577
01:30:25.279 --> 01:30:27.859
of Orlando right now with restaurants and bars, they're.

1578
01:30:27.770 --> 01:30:32.149
All crawling with Halloween themed experiences. I want to hear, no,

1579
01:30:32.250 --> 01:30:33.729
I'm bored on these trips.

1580
01:30:34.270 --> 01:30:37.010
Well, exactly. And Kathy, as you point out, there's so

1581
01:30:37.050 --> 01:30:41.020
many options here. I got to imagine that as a

1582
01:30:41.060 --> 01:30:43.760
lifestyle expert, you're going to say, hey, look it, do

1583
01:30:43.819 --> 01:30:47.100
some planning because you need to be strategic to make

1584
01:30:47.119 --> 01:30:49.800
the most of your time. Because even though we've got

1585
01:30:49.859 --> 01:30:54.039
lots of days available to scare you up and enjoy

1586
01:30:54.140 --> 01:30:59.369
this Halloween season, some of us don't have all those days.

1587
01:30:59.750 --> 01:31:03.310
Maybe it's a three, four day excursion, but to make

1588
01:31:03.329 --> 01:31:05.550
the most of it, Planning's important, right?

1589
01:31:07.130 --> 01:31:09.949
Planning is hugely important. First of all, they have a

1590
01:31:10.029 --> 01:31:14.359
great AI feature, Bill. It's called OPAL, Orlando Planning Assistance

1591
01:31:14.460 --> 01:31:17.399
by Locals. So they will help you put together, because

1592
01:31:17.420 --> 01:31:19.100
I know there's so much going on, as you mentioned.

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So this great AI feature, this planning service, they really

1594
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put together a great getaway. Because the other thing about

1595
01:31:24.560 --> 01:31:26.100
Orlando is, let's face.

1596
01:31:25.960 --> 01:31:28.079
It, perfect weather, right? So we're going to want to

1597
01:31:28.119 --> 01:31:29.779
go outdoors. We want to go kayak. We want to

1598
01:31:29.840 --> 01:31:30.930
go bike. We want to go to a.

1599
01:31:30.939 --> 01:31:34.569
Concert, a special event, and a food festival maybe. But

1600
01:31:34.609 --> 01:31:36.930
we also want to enjoy the Halloween festivities. So there's

1601
01:31:36.970 --> 01:31:38.930
a little bit of everything. You're coming for Halloween, but

1602
01:31:38.949 --> 01:31:40.970
you're doing so much more. And when you have a

1603
01:31:41.010 --> 01:31:43.520
planning service like Opal, it really helps you get in

1604
01:31:43.529 --> 01:31:44.619
there and make sure I've got all.

1605
01:31:44.520 --> 01:31:47.100
My bases covered. Are the adults happy? Yes, we've got

1606
01:31:47.119 --> 01:31:49.199
some great drinks. Are the kids happy? Yes, we've got

1607
01:31:49.220 --> 01:31:50.100
some haunted houses.

1608
01:31:50.420 --> 01:31:52.680
We have it all here for you in Orlando, and

1609
01:31:52.720 --> 01:31:54.399
it's all about planning.

1610
01:31:55.130 --> 01:31:56.609
What about the foodies? We got to take care of

1611
01:31:56.630 --> 01:31:58.680
the foodies. You know, that's all part of the vacation

1612
01:31:58.720 --> 01:31:59.640
and getting away, right?

1613
01:32:00.619 --> 01:32:02.600
We always, I like to eat. We always got to

1614
01:32:02.619 --> 01:32:05.319
take care of the foodies, right? Visit Orlando has their

1615
01:32:05.340 --> 01:32:06.979
magical dining program, which I love.

1616
01:32:07.239 --> 01:32:10.340
As I mentioned, there's so many Michelin star restaurants here

1617
01:32:10.500 --> 01:32:12.939
in Orlando, different cuisines, something for everyone.

1618
01:32:12.970 --> 01:32:14.850
And like I mentioned, they get into the spirit. So

1619
01:32:14.869 --> 01:32:16.949
you're going to go into a restaurant. It might be themed.

1620
01:32:16.970 --> 01:32:20.369
They might be doing something really fun and seasonal, and

1621
01:32:20.409 --> 01:32:22.250
you might go to a bar crawl, and maybe you're

1622
01:32:22.270 --> 01:32:22.630
gonna get.

1623
01:32:22.569 --> 01:32:23.189
A really great drink.

1624
01:32:23.210 --> 01:32:24.890
Maybe you're gonna meet Beetlejuice.

1625
01:32:24.409 --> 01:32:24.930
Along the way.

1626
01:32:25.029 --> 01:32:25.869
Why not, right?

1627
01:32:26.050 --> 01:32:26.310
Yes.

1628
01:32:26.470 --> 01:32:29.569
It's all about having fun, really, again, exploring the food options,

1629
01:32:29.590 --> 01:32:31.810
but also never forgetting to have fun along the way,

1630
01:32:31.850 --> 01:32:33.220
especially when it comes to Halloween.

1631
01:32:34.039 --> 01:32:36.939
Well, Kathy Boucher is with us, and she's the lifestyle

1632
01:32:37.020 --> 01:32:40.430
expert and social media influencer. A lifestyle host, producer, and

1633
01:32:40.470 --> 01:32:44.350
correspondent with more than 20 years experience in TV, entertainment,

1634
01:32:44.399 --> 01:32:47.340
and media. Currently serves as a producer and host for

1635
01:32:47.640 --> 01:32:50.840
Talk Shop Live, the number one, by the way, live

1636
01:32:50.960 --> 01:32:54.260
selling media platform. Kathy, what a ride for you. I mean,

1637
01:32:54.300 --> 01:32:55.800
this has been so much fun. And then here you

1638
01:32:55.939 --> 01:33:00.220
are in Orlando sharing this. Okay. All right. Give me

1639
01:33:00.359 --> 01:33:02.979
your top three. We've got a couple minutes left. Top

1640
01:33:03.020 --> 01:33:05.779
three must experiences while we're there in Orlando.

1641
01:33:05.800 --> 01:33:07.560
Okay.

1642
01:33:07.579 --> 01:33:07.779
Okay.

1643
01:33:08.310 --> 01:33:10.949
Number one, because I am a mom and my kids

1644
01:33:11.210 --> 01:33:14.970
love Mickey's Not So Scary Halloween at Magic Kingdom. That's

1645
01:33:15.029 --> 01:33:18.729
my number one. I love a coaster at Universal's new

1646
01:33:18.850 --> 01:33:19.600
Epic Universe.

1647
01:33:20.180 --> 01:33:23.109
And number three, mama loves to eat. I am going

1648
01:33:23.189 --> 01:33:24.140
to find.

1649
01:33:23.859 --> 01:33:27.060
The best restaurants in Winter Park and do a little

1650
01:33:27.159 --> 01:33:28.659
bar crawl through there, Bill.

1651
01:33:30.720 --> 01:33:34.220
I love the bar crawl. It just gives me a

1652
01:33:34.319 --> 01:33:39.239
certain mind picture that says, you know, I want to

1653
01:33:39.300 --> 01:33:40.880
enjoy it all. You know, why not?

1654
01:33:41.640 --> 01:33:42.180
Absolutely.

1655
01:33:42.739 --> 01:33:43.399
Well, good.

1656
01:33:43.739 --> 01:33:45.880
Well, as we wrap things up here, Kathy, I'll give

1657
01:33:45.899 --> 01:33:47.720
you the last word. Where can they go for more

1658
01:33:47.760 --> 01:33:50.600
information to make sure that they're all planned up and

1659
01:33:50.699 --> 01:33:55.210
ready to go and enjoy this Halloween experience like none other?

1660
01:33:56.829 --> 01:33:58.689
Should I have this guy let you know? I think

1661
01:33:58.729 --> 01:34:02.029
he's just photobombing me here. Visit Orlando.com. That's where you're

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Hey, good morning. Welcome back. Bill Martinez here along with

1746
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the one and only Emily Chow from Focus on the Family.

1747
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Hey, Miss Emily, how we doing?

1748
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Doing great.

1749
01:39:40.760 --> 01:39:42.560
Always good to get connecting with you. And of course,

1750
01:39:42.899 --> 01:39:46.659
a lot is being talked about these celebrities with the,

1751
01:39:48.119 --> 01:39:52.119
you know, Osempic faces or Mongerno faces and bodies and

1752
01:39:52.159 --> 01:39:55.720
all that sort of thing. You know, this is a

1753
01:39:56.140 --> 01:40:00.939
bit worrying because it's putting out an example into the

1754
01:40:01.000 --> 01:40:04.000
culture that could be dangerous for young teens. What do

1755
01:40:04.020 --> 01:40:04.420
you say?

1756
01:40:06.180 --> 01:40:08.010
I say that's absolutely what it's doing. Thank you.

1757
01:40:08.529 --> 01:40:12.289
You know, I grew up in the Y2K era when

1758
01:40:12.529 --> 01:40:17.760
you heard terms like heroin chic. Like, I think one

1759
01:40:17.779 --> 01:40:20.220
of the terms that's on social media right now is

1760
01:40:20.460 --> 01:40:21.500
Y2K skinny.

1761
01:40:22.020 --> 01:40:25.489
You heard things like, there was a really famous.

1762
01:40:25.250 --> 01:40:29.250
Kate Moss saying when I grew up that was, nothing

1763
01:40:29.329 --> 01:40:34.510
tastes as good as skinny feels. And that's the era

1764
01:40:34.569 --> 01:40:37.000
I grew up in. And it was an era where women,

1765
01:40:38.359 --> 01:40:42.819
celebrities mostly, were wearing low-rise jeans that showed off their

1766
01:40:42.859 --> 01:40:46.159
pelvic bones. And your pelvic bone only shows if you're

1767
01:40:46.189 --> 01:40:49.010
a certain age. you know, level of, I hate saying

1768
01:40:49.050 --> 01:40:51.909
the word skinny, but yeah, you know, you're only with

1769
01:40:52.149 --> 01:40:54.010
only people who have a certain physique are going to

1770
01:40:54.050 --> 01:40:57.149
have their pelvic bone poking out. You know, it was

1771
01:40:57.189 --> 01:41:02.460
an era where everybody, every female celebrity on the market

1772
01:41:02.680 --> 01:41:06.539
was wearing belly bearing tops. And, um, We got away

1773
01:41:06.600 --> 01:41:09.979
from that for a little while. The body positivity movement

1774
01:41:10.039 --> 01:41:11.229
came and was.

1775
01:41:11.159 --> 01:41:13.109
Like, okay, this is really unhealthy.

1776
01:41:13.189 --> 01:41:20.140
We should not be advertising what is essentially eating disordered

1777
01:41:20.840 --> 01:41:23.380
behaviors to get to this level of skinny.

1778
01:41:23.399 --> 01:41:23.560
Exactly.

1779
01:41:24.060 --> 01:41:26.380
You know, this is not healthy. It's not good for

1780
01:41:26.520 --> 01:41:30.789
anybody's self-esteem. Let's stop doing this. And, but then, then

1781
01:41:30.829 --> 01:41:34.010
what happened is we got into the Kardashian era where

1782
01:41:34.050 --> 01:41:34.770
it was like, okay.

1783
01:41:35.149 --> 01:41:38.569
Yes, this is slightly healthier, but it's really only achievable

1784
01:41:38.630 --> 01:41:41.829
through plastic surgery. And then for whatever, and then.

1785
01:41:42.420 --> 01:41:48.380
Then Ozempic came and GLP-1s and, and now the Y2K

1786
01:41:48.399 --> 01:41:51.659
skinny trend is back and you have plastic, It seems

1787
01:41:51.960 --> 01:41:55.100
every single day it's a new celebrity who's walking out.

1788
01:41:55.390 --> 01:41:59.949
Who is just waif thin, just so thin.

1789
01:41:59.989 --> 01:42:03.550
You can't even recognize them, Emily, some of them anymore.

1790
01:42:03.569 --> 01:42:06.060
And it's so sad. And then biologically what they're doing,

1791
01:42:06.489 --> 01:42:11.899
because your body, in order to operate, essentially it has

1792
01:42:11.920 --> 01:42:14.760
to have a certain fat level. And when you are

1793
01:42:14.960 --> 01:42:19.649
getting below, I believe, 10%, you know, your metabolism, body

1794
01:42:19.710 --> 01:42:23.500
functions in females start to shut down. You get a

1795
01:42:23.520 --> 01:42:26.220
lot of complications all for the sake of, you know,

1796
01:42:26.239 --> 01:42:28.590
having a skinny, distorted, skeletal-type face.

1797
01:42:29.569 --> 01:42:32.750
You know, and it's really sad because some, now I

1798
01:42:32.810 --> 01:42:35.449
will say plastic surgery is still very much a thing.

1799
01:42:35.510 --> 01:42:38.630
You have women who are, there's like a thing, there's

1800
01:42:38.680 --> 01:42:41.180
like this little thing in your cheeks that you can literally,

1801
01:42:41.300 --> 01:42:43.500
it's like a, I don't really know what it is,

1802
01:42:43.560 --> 01:42:45.180
but you can have it removed to give you that

1803
01:42:45.239 --> 01:42:49.920
kind of that gaunt look. And it's essentially fat that

1804
01:42:49.939 --> 01:42:52.979
they're removing from your face. So a lot of celebrities

1805
01:42:53.050 --> 01:42:55.810
are probably doing that as well. It's not just the

1806
01:42:56.329 --> 01:42:58.829
weight loss. Um, so you're still dealing with that, but

1807
01:42:58.850 --> 01:43:00.590
you know, it's men too. You were just talking about

1808
01:43:00.649 --> 01:43:03.970
body fat percentage. You have men walking out who are,

1809
01:43:04.489 --> 01:43:08.510
you know, taking GLP ones, taking steroids, and they're trying

1810
01:43:08.550 --> 01:43:10.729
to get down to this. I think it's an 8%

1811
01:43:10.729 --> 01:43:13.529
body fat is where that's where you start to like

1812
01:43:13.689 --> 01:43:17.079
actually show like a six pack. And, but you know,

1813
01:43:17.159 --> 01:43:20.960
people who achieve that naturally without the help of drugs,

1814
01:43:21.300 --> 01:43:24.319
will tell you that they don't maintain it. They'll do

1815
01:43:24.380 --> 01:43:26.260
it for like, they do it for like a week.

1816
01:43:26.300 --> 01:43:29.159
Like Hugh Jackman, when he does all those Wolverine movies

1817
01:43:29.260 --> 01:43:32.579
where all of his muscles are showing, he literally goes,

1818
01:43:33.460 --> 01:43:37.850
he literally starves himself of water. Like he will dehydrate himself.

1819
01:43:38.189 --> 01:43:42.710
for three days in order to look that way on camera.

1820
01:43:43.250 --> 01:43:45.449
And he comes out of it and he's like, it's awful,

1821
01:43:45.510 --> 01:43:48.170
it's horrible. I only do it because they're paying me

1822
01:43:48.220 --> 01:43:48.579
to do it.

1823
01:43:48.680 --> 01:43:50.840
And it's like, and.

1824
01:43:50.760 --> 01:43:52.239
They only do it for a couple of days and

1825
01:43:52.279 --> 01:43:53.699
then they go back to being normal.

1826
01:43:53.840 --> 01:43:59.359
And so it's like, Why are we promoting this to teenagers?

1827
01:43:59.520 --> 01:44:03.170
And I say it that way because all of these

1828
01:44:03.210 --> 01:44:06.850
celebrities are posting pictures of their transformations and everything on

1829
01:44:06.909 --> 01:44:10.949
social media. And the key audience on social media are

1830
01:44:11.010 --> 01:44:18.140
these impressionable young teenagers. And it's very upsetting to me having.

1831
01:44:18.989 --> 01:44:19.109
I.

1832
01:44:19.090 --> 01:44:21.810
Remember being a teen girl and we didn't have, this

1833
01:44:21.850 --> 01:44:24.930
was like before social media. I remember looking at magazines,

1834
01:44:25.050 --> 01:44:29.010
looking at those celebrities and being like, ooh, how do

1835
01:44:29.050 --> 01:44:31.489
I look like that? And sometimes the magazines would even

1836
01:44:31.590 --> 01:44:33.119
show you, they'd be like, here's how.

1837
01:44:32.989 --> 01:44:34.779
To get this body.

1838
01:44:34.859 --> 01:44:37.180
You know, they'd have the workout routine and the diet

1839
01:44:37.260 --> 01:44:41.079
and everything listed in their magazine. Well, social media is

1840
01:44:41.140 --> 01:44:43.979
that times 50,000.

1841
01:44:43.979 --> 01:44:46.640
Oh, yeah, no doubt about it. Well, you know, I

1842
01:44:46.659 --> 01:44:48.789
think it's interesting to hear you talk because, Emily, I'm thinking,

1843
01:44:49.069 --> 01:44:51.250
you know, because we always see before and after, right?

1844
01:44:51.569 --> 01:44:55.729
But what we don't see is after the after. You know,

1845
01:44:55.829 --> 01:44:59.550
so like you said, it's a short-term situation. I don't

1846
01:44:59.569 --> 01:45:03.819
care who it is. Oprah, whatever, you know, it's in

1847
01:45:03.859 --> 01:45:07.420
some cases, it's a yo-yo situation and they all are touting.

1848
01:45:07.479 --> 01:45:09.930
I mean, the kind of stuff that's on line right now,

1849
01:45:10.189 --> 01:45:13.930
there's all kinds of, you know, formulas of how you

1850
01:45:13.970 --> 01:45:21.189
can increase the GLP-1 in your own body naturally and

1851
01:45:21.210 --> 01:45:24.449
all this other stuff. But I'm not hearing any long-term

1852
01:45:24.489 --> 01:45:25.510
success with this stuff.

1853
01:45:26.550 --> 01:45:29.300
Well, I won't speak into the long-term success because I'm

1854
01:45:29.340 --> 01:45:32.090
not a doctor, but what I will speak into is

1855
01:45:32.130 --> 01:45:36.329
just the fact that like, these different influencers, so maybe

1856
01:45:36.369 --> 01:45:39.449
not on the celebrity level, but definitely on the influencer level,

1857
01:45:39.829 --> 01:45:43.029
they will tell you, hey, here's where you can go

1858
01:45:43.310 --> 01:45:48.000
online right now to purchase this drug, to purchase this steroid,

1859
01:45:48.060 --> 01:45:51.659
to purchase whatever it is to achieve whatever look.

1860
01:45:51.460 --> 01:45:54.800
You're going for. And that's really kind of disturbing to me.

1861
01:45:54.920 --> 01:46:00.229
It is disturbing that you have these celebrities and influencers

1862
01:46:00.270 --> 01:46:05.789
who have zero medical background who you know and they're

1863
01:46:05.829 --> 01:46:07.569
just sitting there and they're like here here's where you

1864
01:46:07.590 --> 01:46:10.710
can buy this product and it's like why and it's

1865
01:46:10.750 --> 01:46:12.640
because they get I mean they do it because they.

1866
01:46:12.560 --> 01:46:15.119
Get money when they do that they get that's how.

1867
01:46:14.899 --> 01:46:18.739
Influencers make their money but you're like they they have

1868
01:46:19.079 --> 01:46:21.779
they do not care about their audience when they do

1869
01:46:21.819 --> 01:46:25.569
that they are saying my money is is more important

1870
01:46:25.609 --> 01:46:28.789
to me than your physical and mental well-being.

1871
01:46:28.890 --> 01:46:31.430
And I say mental as well, because.

1872
01:46:31.430 --> 01:46:38.170
You have these skinny, thin, beautiful people who maybe have

1873
01:46:38.210 --> 01:46:41.229
achieved that through diet and exercise. But then on top

1874
01:46:41.270 --> 01:46:43.850
of that, even though they look great, they're like, I'm

1875
01:46:43.869 --> 01:46:44.789
going to do a GLP-1 anyways.

1876
01:46:46.380 --> 01:46:49.039
And it's like, that's.

1877
01:46:48.159 --> 01:46:51.510
Very problematic when you have somebody who already looks great,

1878
01:46:51.600 --> 01:46:55.210
and then they still decide to use a drug or

1879
01:46:55.229 --> 01:46:58.250
a steroid in order, because even they're not happy with

1880
01:46:58.289 --> 01:47:01.630
their own appearance. And what kind of message does that send?

1881
01:47:02.090 --> 01:47:05.300
You see, that's the thing that I'm getting out of this.

1882
01:47:06.220 --> 01:47:09.020
Pat Riley, years ago, before you were born, he was

1883
01:47:09.039 --> 01:47:11.239
the coach of the Los Angeles Lakers, wrote a great book.

1884
01:47:11.699 --> 01:47:13.560
And in his book, it was Showtime, called Showtime. It's

1885
01:47:13.600 --> 01:47:16.909
about the success the Lakers had, three winning seasons and

1886
01:47:16.930 --> 01:47:20.180
all this good stuff. I've actually heard of this book. Okay.

1887
01:47:20.489 --> 01:47:23.020
And one of the things that he stressed was he

1888
01:47:23.060 --> 01:47:25.760
said the disease of more, you know, that you get

1889
01:47:25.859 --> 01:47:28.220
into this, that you're never satisfied. You just got to

1890
01:47:28.260 --> 01:47:31.100
have more and more. Like Michael Jackson, for example, he

1891
01:47:31.140 --> 01:47:34.090
cut himself up and you're thinking, man, about five surgeries ago,

1892
01:47:34.149 --> 01:47:37.430
you look great. You know, your nose is like Pinocchio.

1893
01:47:37.489 --> 01:47:39.789
I mean, I don't know. I mean, you're really kind of,

1894
01:47:40.109 --> 01:47:43.939
you've lost that natural, You know, that natural look. And

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here he was. I mean, he was chasing something. And

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I thought, wow. And some of these people who've got

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the money and I guess have the time and they're

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carving up their bodies in such a way that I mean,

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at the end of it, I don't know if they're

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ever really satisfied if they're if their identity itself has

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been so compromised that they don't even know who they are.

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That's the thing.

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And this is where, you know, parents and grandparents and

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just all the adults in the room, they need to

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01:48:12.869 --> 01:48:15.590
be talking to the kids in the room and they

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need to be talking to them about their identities. Where

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01:48:18.609 --> 01:48:22.350
is your identity? Where are you placing the importance in

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01:48:22.409 --> 01:48:27.909
your life? You know, quit letting cultural standards define what

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01:48:28.010 --> 01:48:31.479
skinny is and start letting, you know, clinical standards define

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what is healthy for you. When a celebrity comes out

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01:48:35.029 --> 01:48:37.520
and says, this is the healthiest I've ever been. And

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they just, They just look like they have, they look

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like they've been through.

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Some traumatic experience because they're so thin.

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Maybe they are, you know, and I'm going to reference

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a celebrity here, Ariana Grande. She came out after the Wicked.

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promotional stuff, she came out very, very thin and people

1918
01:48:59.130 --> 01:49:02.529
were concerned and they were gossiping about it online, which

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is not great. I do not think it is okay

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to gossip about a celebrity no matter what their weight

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loss situation may be. But she came out, she looked

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01:49:12.420 --> 01:49:15.319
very thin, people were concerned. And so she finally took

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to social media and she was like, this is the

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healthiest I've ever been. Quit pointing to pictures of me

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01:49:20.279 --> 01:49:23.529
in the past. And she said, in the past, I

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was addicted to antidepressants and I was taking them with alcohol.

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And it's like, okay, that is good to know that,

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you know, back then you were not healthy. However, that

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doesn't mean that you're healthy now either. And I think

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that's an important distinction to make. It's like, it's great

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that she's not drinking anymore, but But that doesn't mean that.

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Her new weight is necessarily healthy.

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And it's certainly not sending a good message to the

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01:49:50.529 --> 01:49:53.069
young girls who are looking up to her, who are,

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01:49:53.090 --> 01:49:55.770
you know, they see her movies and they see her

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01:49:55.810 --> 01:49:57.890
music and they're like, oh, I love her.

1937
01:49:57.909 --> 01:49:59.680
I want to look like her. It's like.

1938
01:50:00.600 --> 01:50:04.279
whatever, even if that is somehow healthy for her body type,

1939
01:50:04.640 --> 01:50:07.960
then she's of a very rare body type that other

1940
01:50:08.020 --> 01:50:11.319
young girls cannot achieve through natural means.

1941
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And that's the takeaway.

1942
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Well, and for her, that's her assessment right now. But

1943
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as we know, and we hear the stories all the

1944
01:50:19.250 --> 01:50:24.529
time of addictive behavior begets addictive behavior. So you may

1945
01:50:24.600 --> 01:50:28.949
have exchanged one, you know, One pill for a different

1946
01:50:28.989 --> 01:50:31.770
type of pill, so to speak. And I'm not saying

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that's the case for her. I pray that, you know,

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she's what she said is what she's realizing. And if

1949
01:50:38.739 --> 01:50:44.090
that's the case, then, you know. You know, maybe maybe

1950
01:50:44.119 --> 01:50:45.909
things will fill out a little bit for her and

1951
01:50:46.930 --> 01:50:50.470
and she will be able to, you know, have that

1952
01:50:50.630 --> 01:50:53.130
that health and well-being that she's looking for.

1953
01:50:54.140 --> 01:50:54.319
Yep.

1954
01:50:54.579 --> 01:50:56.819
And, you know, that's how I feel about all of

1955
01:50:56.859 --> 01:50:59.739
these celebrities. It makes me so sad that, like, just

1956
01:50:59.779 --> 01:51:03.020
to think about them on a human level, you know,

1957
01:51:03.039 --> 01:51:06.899
the disease of more. It's like they are constantly under

1958
01:51:07.000 --> 01:51:11.409
pressure to lose more weight, to gain more muscle, to

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01:51:11.750 --> 01:51:15.689
look a certain way, to adhere to these standards of

1960
01:51:15.789 --> 01:51:21.270
beauty that are just not here. It's an inhuman standard

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01:51:21.310 --> 01:51:23.640
that they are being held to, but they are still

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01:51:23.689 --> 01:51:29.439
human beings. And I think we hear constantly about celebrities

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01:51:29.800 --> 01:51:33.890
who are just traumatized by their youths and growing up

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01:51:34.020 --> 01:51:37.989
in the world of Hollywood and how... different it feels

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01:51:38.069 --> 01:51:39.090
from the real world.

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And so I really hope that there are that there are.

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People in their lives, mentors and friends and loved ones

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01:51:47.630 --> 01:51:48.869
who can speak into.

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01:51:48.649 --> 01:51:50.649
Their their lives and say, hey.

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This isn't healthy. Let's talk about this. And I pray

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01:51:55.770 --> 01:51:57.850
that's the case for them. But, you know, for the

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01:51:57.890 --> 01:52:03.140
parent sitting at home, the non-Hollywood person whose teenage daughter

1973
01:52:03.520 --> 01:52:06.520
is asking her mom if she can go on a GLP-1,

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I pray that you have the.

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I pray that.

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We will all be given the knowledge and the sympathy

1977
01:52:16.989 --> 01:52:21.789
to talk to our children and say, you know... this

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01:52:22.130 --> 01:52:24.050
is what our bodies are meant to do. This is

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how God build our bodies and what they should be

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capable of.

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And when we put them through.

1982
01:52:30.880 --> 01:52:37.039
These strenuous exercise regimens, diets, when we pump all these

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01:52:37.079 --> 01:52:42.350
drugs into our bodies, it changes our makeup to be

1984
01:52:42.409 --> 01:52:46.789
something that God never intended for us. And I think

1985
01:52:46.869 --> 01:52:49.010
it's really important to talk about that with your kids.

1986
01:52:49.380 --> 01:52:51.439
Well, I, and I think so. And parents may need

1987
01:52:51.479 --> 01:52:54.479
some counsel on this, Emily. And we need to keep this.

1988
01:52:54.560 --> 01:52:59.220
I mean, as we are talking here and, and processing this, uh, it's,

1989
01:52:59.380 --> 01:53:02.600
it's complex. I mean, when you're talking about your own children,

1990
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I mean, it's, it's tough when you see it with celebrities,

1991
01:53:04.859 --> 01:53:07.119
but you got to keep an eye because that's that

1992
01:53:07.159 --> 01:53:10.069
your kids are looking at the celebrities. They're being influenced

1993
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as you say. So where can they go? Uh, I

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know focus on the family has been very supportive and

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01:53:15.710 --> 01:53:19.550
is a great resource to help, uh, parents understand how

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to address this with their teens. Yes.

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So if you want to read more about what PluggedIn

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01:53:25.850 --> 01:53:28.840
has to say, you can go to PluggedIn.com and visit

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01:53:28.880 --> 01:53:33.939
our blog. We have a blog there that talks about

2000
01:53:34.000 --> 01:53:37.079
the different conversations you can have with your teens about

2001
01:53:37.119 --> 01:53:42.079
this issue. And then if you're seeking additional resources, you

2002
01:53:42.100 --> 01:53:44.739
can visit Focus on the Family's website or call them

2003
01:53:44.760 --> 01:53:50.319
at 1-800-A-FAMILY. to speak with a counselor, to get some guidance,

2004
01:53:50.420 --> 01:53:54.210
as you said, some counseling. And, you know, just I

2005
01:53:54.250 --> 01:53:57.109
think it's also just important. Talk to the other parents

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01:53:57.289 --> 01:54:00.390
in your friend group. See how they're all approaching this, because,

2007
01:54:00.890 --> 01:54:03.689
you know, this might be one of those situations where

2008
01:54:03.720 --> 01:54:07.460
a group effort might help all of the parents and

2009
01:54:07.520 --> 01:54:09.220
all of the teenagers involved.

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Like you don't have to go this alone.

2011
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Yeah, I know, because oftentimes you get parents here and

2012
01:54:13.779 --> 01:54:15.039
they go, oh, you too.

2013
01:54:16.109 --> 01:54:17.390
Yeah, exactly.

2014
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Yes, me too. Sadly, that's it. But yeah, we can

2015
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come together and each have something positive to offer. And again,

2016
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our gratitude to Focus on the Family and all the

2017
01:54:28.140 --> 01:54:31.720
great work that you're doing. Emily Chow, she is on

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the PluggedIn team, and it's always great to have her here. Emily,

2019
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thank you so much. Take care. God bless.

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