Aug. 7, 2026
The Bill Martinez Show 08 07 26
The Bill Martinez Show 08 07 26
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Are you ready? Yeah, Okay, us doing Bill Martinez Live,
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a program about current events, our culture, our values, our politics,
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and our future.
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And now Bill Martinez.
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Hey, good morning America. Good to have you with us.
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Bill Martinez here along with Horace Cooper at six minutes
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after the top of the hour. Mister Horace, how are
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we doing.
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It's a great day to live in America.
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It's amazing. You know, the square ups his craziness here. Horace.
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By the way, as the former constitutional law professor recognized
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the legal commentator and author. You know, with all this
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stuff upside down. You and I've talked about this before.
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I mean, this is in so many ways is a
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spiritual battle, because you can't understand it in a practical
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sense with you know, anything but the spiritual because you know,
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like the Book of Isaiah said, Horace, there will be
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that time when that which is right will be called wrong.
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Good will be called evil, suite will be called sour.
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Everything's the opposite. And this is where we find ourselves
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right now, especially with the rise of the Democrat Socialists
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of America. You know, when you think about the numbers,
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I think the membership now, according to Bernie Sanders, people
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is about one hundred and twenty thousand card carrying DSA members.
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But they have created such a tsunami of interest and
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movement that they are they're attacking capitalism and our way
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of life just front and center.
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Oh absolutely, that's true. Absolutely, that our way of life
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is under siege.
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I mean, I just recently had a peace published called
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They're Coming after the Senate. Well, at least that's what
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the editors of the piece put on.
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And all I did was outline the.
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DSA platform and explain how in the year of our
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two hundred and fiftieth anniversary, they have undercut or desired
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to undercut and rewrite the entire system. It isn't just
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checks and balances. It isn't just unique roles for various institutions.
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It isn't just federalism. All of those work together to
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actually make it harder to get things done.
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And there are people that are like, I'm so upset
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that government isn't able to do everything I wanted to do.
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Our founders believed that liberty.
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Was protected by not letting government be able to do
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everything that it wants to do.
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Right, Yeah, exactly, because the thing is you look at it.
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I mean, I think it's quite interesting here because you
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consider where we are right now economically, because that's the
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big issue, affordability. They say, Okay, we have record high
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stock market, record high after tax family incomes, the lowest
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crime rates in fifty years, lowest number of Americans laid
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off from their jobs in half a century, the biggest
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investment boom in forty years, and a Democratic Party floating
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around in outer space on the economy, and yet voters
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prefer them over the Republican Party. What's wrong with this picture?
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Horus, Well, there's part of this is a unhappiness about
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where America is for a long time, starting in the
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late nineteen fifties, very minor and dramatically so.
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In the nineteen.
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Sixties and then all the way through the Ford administration,
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the federal government did something that it started during the
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Great Depression. It said, if you have a problem, I
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have a solution. It didn't work during the Great Depression.
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In fact, economists say that the Great Depression was extended
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precisely because of the things quote that were being done
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to mitigate It didn't work during the Great Society. It
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didn't work during the expansion of the administrative state. Even
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during the Nixon administration, and yet after an interregnum, we
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are back to the American people being deceived, being being
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soothed by those who say, well, if there's a problem,
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we can just use more government.
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What we absolutely which.
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Means more taxpayer funds, that's what that means.
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Well, yeah, of.
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Course it's more taxation, but of course it's actually more regulation,
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it's more government control.
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What we actually need is more independence. We created the
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world's largest welfare state, and yet today numerically there are
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more people who were unhoused or homeless than there were
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before we started. In the nineteen sixties, we spent and
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more federally on education, and yet the latest scores show
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our kids are actually performing under par and yet we
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see no real improvements. You look at the metrics, and
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where you can tell progress is if government is absent,
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are largely reduced in its presence, what you see is
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an amazing.
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Degree of accomplishment. Except where you see great government, what
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you see is stagnation. And yet the cost of this
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stagnation increases and increases and increases.
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I'd say stagnation along with fraud. I mean, look what's
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happening in the welfare program's Horus. The latest report right
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now is totaling something like one hundred and eighty billion
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dollars in fraud. And when you look at Medicare, Medicaid,
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Earned Income tax Credit, the SNAP program, shuttered Venue, Operator's
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Grant program, all other program I mean, in total, these
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welfare programs bigger government one hundred and eighty billion in
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that's just in one category here we're talking about.
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So there's a term. It's called bleed the beast. We
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make government so big that a new enterprise, a criminal enterprise,
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but a new enterprise has developed. I am just going
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to suck off of this excess. When you spend the
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way our government is spending, you have so much that
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we absolutely need an Assistant Attorney General who's sole job
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is to track down this fraud. But I'm going to
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tell you, while I do support this, I do believe
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people need to be held accountable for their theft and
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their fraud. I also think we need to shift away
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from the government.
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Is the solution.
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That doesn't work for us, That is absolutely a long
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term failure. And where I am really disappointed is when
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I look at DSA, there are Democrats who advocate the
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same policies of DSA, but they pretend that they're not
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members of the DSA. They and the DSA have learned nothing.
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We are following. We're walking down a path that most
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of Europe has already traveled down. And most of Europe
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already knows that they are spending per capita eighty plus
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percent of their per capita generated on just social programs.
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This is unsustainable. Why we would be tripped into following
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down that path that we already know is a failure
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is a real remarkable surprise for me.
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Yeah.
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Well, it reinforces the incompetence of our educational system that
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our leaders somehow do not know how to construct a
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mathematical equation that's positive and beneficial.
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Absolutely, that's true. You know, you look at healthcare. The
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countries that got the headstart on government provided healthcare are
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showing how it just.
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Fundamentally doesn't work. It doesn't mean we don't care, it
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doesn't mean that we're unconcerned. In fact, it's precisely because
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we do care and that we are concerned that we
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look around and see in Canada and the UK people
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countries close to us, how many of their citizens are
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We're talking with the one and only US Cooper. He
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is a former constitutional law professor, recognized legal commentator, and author.
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And you know here we are. It is what it is.
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And you know, Horace, I think people in America overall,
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their heads are still brain bruised and spinning over the
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hearing with doctor Anthony Fauci. He probably will get away
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with this because that's what the Left is able to do.
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They somehow they're able to in this case, get away
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with murder.
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Oh see, when he got the pardon, the first thing
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that I said was that he's under a mistaken impression.
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He thinks that everything he has done he can get
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away with legally.
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He might not be able to be prosecuted for his
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past actions, but if he lies about them today, he
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can be prosecuted. A pardon doesn't cover future activity associated
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with past criminal activity. I am a little disappointed that
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