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0:00 Are you ready. Yeah, Okay, let's doing Bill Martinez Live, a program about current events. Our culture, our values, our politics, and our future. And now Bill Martinez. Hey, right now, six minutes after the top of the hour. I am Bill Martinez and he is doctor Michael Butler. Hey, Michael, how you doing. I'm doing very well, Bill. Thanks for having me. As you know, it's always my pleasure to be here. Well, it's our pleasure and honor to always have you on your insight. That is so needed right now when things are so upside down. I mean, Michael, I got to tell you. By the way, ladies, Joe and Michael's a public policy analyst. He's the economics expert and professor of finance at Stockton University in New Jersey. So unlike those on the left, he actually knows that one plus one equals too, right, Michael, exactly. But I started to tell you, I don't know if you saw this statistic.
0:58 This is just crazy. I can't believe is The latest Reuter's poll on voter sentiment shows that voters preferred Democrats over Republicans on the economy for the first time in a decade. It would seem that all that the mainstream media has been doing and propagandizing America is working because it's hard to square up all the policies and the damage that let's just say in the recent era, that the Biden administration did to our economy, what they did to affect affordability. It was their policies that created this mess. And somehow, you know, with a lot of young people, they want to believe the Republicans are the problem. It doesn't square up.
1:44 Yeah, it certainly doesn't. So how do we get in this mess, particularly with the high inflation that we're trying to get rid of. So let me go back in history a little bit. We had a very severe inflation problem in the nineteen seventies nineteen eighty. The Federal Reserve figure they knew what to do, so they used monetary policy, brought the inflation rate down, and really for the next thirty forty years, forty years, the inflation rate remained at around two percent or less. So what happened twenty twenty, the pandemic came. Advisors convinced President Trump, whether it's right or wrong, he convinced President Trump, you have to shut the economy down completely, which he did for a number of weeks. Well, that could have brought on a very severe recession and may be even worse. So President Trump said, look, we can't have that, So I have to get Congress to pass a massive three trillion dollars stimulus package, which worked in that the economy tank real fast and we had what was called a V shaped recovery. It came back very quickly. Demonstration comes in in twenty twenty one, and really with regard to the economy, they didn't have to do anything. We had enough stimulus. The unemployment rate was dropping, growth was picking up. We're on the right track.
3:13 But the prior administration has social agenda, and in order to implement that social agenda they needed to spend a lot of money to justify it. The Biden administration said, we need another stimulus package, so they passed another nearly three trillion dollar package. At the time, I said, this is excessive. It's going to cause excess demand in the economy, and it's going to lead to inflation. Inflation started to go up all through twenty twenty one. At the end of twenty twenty one, to try to take some action to reduce some inflation, the government passed what they called an inflation reduction package. Now, anytime you're spending more money, you're not going to reduce inflation. But nonetheless they did that kept inflation high. At the same time very poor management at the Federal Reserve. They kept interest rates near zero all through twenty twenty one and halfway into twenty twenty two. Why, they said, the inflation, the unemployment rates coming down, we needed to come down faster, so they kept interest rates real low, creating excess demand. Well, you have excess demand from vast amounts of government spending, excess demand from monetary policy. The inflation rate got up to nine point one percent in June of twenty twenty two.
4:38 At that time, the Federal Reserve finally woke up and said, we've got to get this inflation problem solved. We're going to jack interest rate rates way up real fast over the next ten to twelve months, which they did, and it brought the inflation rate down. Now, coming into twenty twenty five, the inflation rates two point nine percent. We like it at two percent or less, so we're on our way there. From nine and we were heading down, got down to beginning part of this year, down to two point four percent. But then the Iranian crisis hit. Now we can debate whether there was a good idea of bad idea to go in there an. If people say it was a war of choice, we shouldn't have done this. You cause all these problems for nothing. The Trump position is intelligence. We had said that even though we obliterated the nuclear program of Iran some months ago, they still have some nuclear material, and they admitted that to us they had enough material for ten I believe, nuclear warheads, and they were very close to being able to enrich to a point where that would happen. President Trump said, if that happened, they said, they're in a continental ballistic missiles don't go that far. We laid found out they yes, exactly, and they're getting close to the US.
6:05 So the President said, I've got to stop this now. Whatever the price is, we're going to have to pay it. So he went in bombed Iran. Now, in my opinion, he should have finished a job early. You and me both yes. Instead, he said, I don't want to have any more people killed than I have to, and I don't want to see the country destroyed. So I'm going to give Iran a chance to negotiate this poor this decision. In my view, Iran never negotiates anything in good faith. President Obama gets that agreement with him, he looked to Obama is a pretty good thing. A few months later they broke it and started reaching uranium again. So the I believe the uranium.
6:52 Course, Obama gave him all the money, the seed money to do that. On top of it. Oh yeah, by the way, absolutely, So where are we today, So this Iranian conflict has got to get over. Look, I'm a strong supporter of President Trump. I do not support the way he's handled this war. He told us in February when he attack, this will be over shortly. Then he told us shortly in May, in March, it'll be over shortly in April, and be over shortly. Here we are in August. He's telling us it will be over shortly, and he says, I'm going to give them one last chance to negotiate. You can't negotiate with these people.
7:36 Don't string it out as long as as possible. Then they'll come up with something and they'll either break it or try to renegotiate it literally the next day. The reason negotiation won't work in the long run is if you're at war with a country and you're about to wipe out their population. They said, I better surrender before he killed everybody. Like World War Two, we dropped two atomic bombs. Japan said, look, you're gonna kill everybody here. I don't want that to happen, so I'll surrender. With Iran, they don't care if you kill their population. In fact, they kill their own population. Yeah. So I've already killed over fifty thousand gans. So if you're negotiating with somebody who really doesn't care about the population, all they're going to do is try to string this out as long as possible and just hang on. I think personally, President Trump is wasting time trying to negotiate with this people. These people were into August.
8:30 If it goes much further, you're going to kill the midterms. The Republicans, even though it's an off year for the president. The Republicans should do well here the Democrats. The Democrats are talking about socialism and that drives everybody with someone talking about communism, So the Republicans should do well. But if the inflation rate is high and this thing is not over, people are going to say, why know what the Democrats are saying, but it's got to be better than this, So I'm going to vote vote for the Democrat. So Trump's got to get this over with as soon as possible. Once he does, oil prices will fall under seventy hours of varrol, maybe close to sixty. Gasoline will go under three dollars a gallon, maybe as well as to fifty. Energy prices in general will fall. That will bring the inflation rate down rapidly, and we'll hit that two percent target probably early part of next year.
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15:01 And so now they've taken the party and they're going really woke with a party. And we'll see, you know, if in fact this will play out like many of us are predicting that it's going to play out. But the Republicans have got to really stay focused and get serious, as you say, and we've been you know, you and I we've been talking about this all along. And I said, there's a lack of sense of urgency I'm perceiving in the Republican Party right exactly. And there should be a sense of urgency. This inflation problem has got to be fixed before the end of this month. That means the Iranian conflict has got to get over once that happens and energy oil prices fall and gas prices fall all through September and October, people will be in a good mood. Hey, the Republicans are doing the right thing. They stop it around from getting a nuclear weapon, and inflation is coming down. Gas is cheap again. Maybe we should continue to keep them in power.
16:00 If they don't do that, we're going to lose power. And if Democrats get control of either House of Congress, everything's going to come to a standstill. They'll try to impeach President Trump. They'll fight them every step of the way. So it's crucial we get the Soarnanian conflict over very quickly. Yeah, when was the last time a Democrat did anything to, you know, grow the prosperity on behalf of the American people. Their ethos is growing government, not you know not, you know not capitalism. So help me square this up here, Michael, because I'm a bit confused. All Right, we have a record high stock market, a record high after tax family incomes, the lowest crime rates in fifty years, the lowest number of Americans laid off from their jobs in half a century, the biggest investment boom in forty years, and a Democratic party floating around in outer space on the economy, and yet voters prefer these crazy people.
17:04 The media says this whole inflation problem is a result of Trump going into a war war he didn't have to go into. So if you're feeling the price at the pump and you're feeling the price of higher growth rates, it's all President Trump's fall. And the public says, well, maybe that's right, Maybe I better not go for a Republican Maybe I don't prove of the way President Trump is doing things. If you look at all of the things you said, the economy is doing very well. Growth is not quite where we wanted it, mostly because it's Iran conflict. Inflation is not where we want it because of the Iran conflict. So we can get this over and get back on track. People will see that the Trump administration policies work just like they did in the first time, exactly.
17:52 If you want to know what somebody's going to do, look what they've done. Look at what this president did in his first term, what he did in the second. And of course now with the reveal of the diaries from doctor Fauci, it is so aggravating, you know what this man single handedly did to our economy and our culture. Michael horrible, horrible, and according to his diaries, he was enjoying this, enjoying being the spotlight and joining He said, he was the most well known person in the world, and he was giving advice that was wrong. It was just plain wrong. And if anybody disputed it, remember Scott Atlas, a well known professor from Stanford, I think, very knowledgeable, and he had a different view, and he was ostracized.
18:41 This guy's a kookie, doesn't know what he's saying. Listen to the science. And Fauci said, I'm the only one that knows the science. And what he did was destroyed the country. There are young people it may take them years ever to get over this exactly. They didn't weren't in school, they didn't have any social contact, and now a lot of them are kind of going into a shell. This was a horrible thing that Fauci did, and he didn't have enough guts to answer some of the questions that the Senate said. He really couldn't because I pardoned him for all the bad things he did for the last fifteen years, I think right. So if he went in and he could admit he did something wrong and he wouldn't suffer into consequences. But then he has to admit he wanted the whole time, and you know he certainly doesn't want that. And if they asked the question and he didn't tell the truth, then he could be held for perjury. So the only thing left for him to do is not say anything. And that's what a lawyers told him to do. Don't say a word, even if they have to ask you what color your tie is?
19:48 Tell me. If you can't answer that, that's incriminate. You take the fifth of. All that set aside, though, Michael is the American people are saying, look at my loved one died. I couldn't even say goodbye to them. A million America, seven million around the world died because of this ruse and what was done by this mad scientist. And if there is no accountability on this, people are going to be ticked. And you may, you know, you may get away with it. You may be walking around like the lowest learners and the Hillary Clinton's of the world and the people that have ripped off the American people. But you know, the American people aren't that stupid. You know, there might be some people that still want to walk down that yellow brick road, you know, like those that want to believe that Barack Obama is the greatest president that ever happened.
20:38 And it's like, look at you can't. You don't consider the facts. You don't look at what this man did for health care. For example, where we are, they said it was going to be such a beautiful thing. You're going to keep your doctor, it's going to be cheaper. It's just the opposite, and it's on life support being paid for by the taxpayer. When we were told that it was going to be you know the great things in slice does. Yeah, that the whole Affordable Care Act was a big lie. And then many of the people in Congress that voted for it didn't even read it before they voted for it. Remember Pelosi said, you have to vote for it before you can find out what what's in it.
21:18 Did you ever try reading it, Michael? It's too complicated. I got, I got, I got about five pages into it and my brain was bruising. It didn't make sense whatsoever. And if you remember the architect of Obamacare, he had the arrogance to go on national television in a news program and said he admitted that they purposely confused. It exactly and it didn't do nearly what it says. Many people lost the doctor, that they was out a network or something that they've known for years. He told his premiums will go down by a little over two thousand year. They've skyrocketed since then. He told this, the system would be more efficient. It is so inefficient now that they're doing things and spending money where they don't they don't have to spend money. You know, Trump fixed this in his first term. He came up with something.
22:13 The House passed it. In the Senate it was I think fifty no's to forty nine yes, says John McCain had some surgery. He came back. Had he voted yes, he had a fifty to fifty tigh Pence, vice president, would have broken it, and it was through. He walked in. He voted no, come down. Yeah, yeah, vote that comes down. I don't know why it would have been fixed. Now it's so messed up. The premiums are going up so much that the Democrats are saying, look, all these premiums are going up, they're kicking all these people off. We're going to have to use more taxpayer money. And President Trump said, you can't keep throwing money at all these things and having to be inefficient doing that. With education, we're trying to stop that too. We really need to fix this rather than they'll just come up with some kind of a patch in the fall, you know, so that it gets some people over the hump here. But this needs to be fixed. And Trump had an idea, it's got to come up with another one. Let's get it through.
23:14 Well, you look at you know, Medicare and Medicaid all the fraud alone. Michael, you're talking almost two hundred billion dollars in fraud in those particular categories. Okay, and that's just that's just a cursory overview, all right. And they haven't really you know, done an audit the way they should, but you know, at least two hundred billion dollars in fraud, and the American people are saying, hey, before we you know, do anything else, can we kind of like fix the problem maybe exactly exactly. And some of this fraud, some of by Americans, many are by immigrants who came into this country and just rip the system and there was no oversight. And you're right, it's turning into hundreds of billions of dollars, and that's money that was ripped off. We could have been going to people who actually needed it. So we have of these problems today with the premiums too high and somebody can't get daycare. That all that, just get rid of the waste, fraud and abuse and will have the first step in solving this problem.
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28:04 Welcome back, Bill Martinez here along with Deroy Murdocci, Manhattan based Fox News contributor. Hey Deroy, how are we doing. I'm just great, Bill, How are you? Oh? I'm confused. Oh I don't. Understand this, Deroy. The socialists, how they've come into town here and like like as if they're the ones to deliver us out of the problems that they have created. I mean, you think of the thirty nine trillion dollars in debt that we're in just as a big you know, just the top number there. Let's talk about right. Yeah, right, how much is you know, is socialism behind that of Obamacare? What they did with social Security? I mean, we are in a sense, you know, we want to act like we're a democratic republic. I think we gave that up many decades ago, and now it's like, okay, like Katie bar the door. You know, everybody's falling out of the closet. It's like his closet. Remember that when you're growing out. There's all out of the closet now and they're just saying, hey, here it is, and it's like like as if it's some kind of new, wonderful thing.
29:18 But when you look at the history of socialism, yeah, it's all patty cakes until it's not. And when it's not, then your guns are taken away. You're so vulnerable and they just come in and start mowing people down. I mean, in the last century alone, what do we have like a hundred million victims, uh, to all the isms, the socialism and communism, fascism, you know, something like that number. I mean, and America goes, oh man, I can't wait to bring that into town. Yeah please bring your up, Yes, yes, please, is the response. I think what you're you're making a point I've been making, which is that, uh, these socialists who popped up, you know, this Chevalier woman in New York and i' madami and AOC and now this guy Ilsaid who won the primary for the Democrat primary in Michigan. As you say this is something new, the Sara and narrative we hear is, oh my god, these these far left Democrats are defeating these moderate centrist Democrats and oh, it's just so awful.
30:17 You look at the vote records for the people who've been defeated by the DSA pick candidates and like the LSA who beat this one named Haley Stevens in Michigan. I took a look at her American Conservative Union rating. Zero's most liberal, one hundred is most conservative. So she's a centrist. She ought to be somewhere between thirty and sixty. Let's say, give her a take, or between forty and sixty, kind of in the middle thirty if you will. Her AC rating is six. Okay. Here in New York, this woman named Chevalier defeated Andrew Espayatt, who is the head of the Hispanic Caucus and Hispanic Congressional Caucus. His AC rating was two point zero. Okay, so it's not like these are centrists middle of the row. Modern reasonable democrats are being wiped up by these crazy you know, uh foamate the mouth socialists. These are far left socialists being beaten by far far left socialists, or is that the other.
31:10 Day they're in the lunatic fringe range. The super left is being defeated by the super duper left. So uh, you know, these the people who are being defeated brought us, you know, all the way about third base, and these people coming in are trying to you know, trying to wave the runner all the way home across home plate. So you know, we've got a lot of socialism for these other people in the past, and now they want to put full pedal of metal and go fully communists. That's what's going on here. Well and uh and of course I guess the thing that you can calm down a little bit at least gives me a little bit of repose, is that, yes, okay, this these are democrat enclaves and and they're you know, cleaning up their own mess, so to speak. But it's interesting because what it's done to you know, those uh, I guess you might say moderate Democrats like Joe Mansion.
31:58 You even got Carville Carvell. You know, he he's out of bed now, he's not even he's so incensed that he I think he fell out of bed and h you know, and he's just going, oh, this is this is crazy. I mean, who could could you ever imagine Carville h you know, the poster child for insanity calling his own party crazy. Yeah, well he goes to show how, you know, how far along on the crazy train they've gone. You know, this was when when James Carvill was the head political operative for Bill Clinton. You know, this is the period when the concept or the slogan of Bill Clinton was the era of big government is over. He signed welfare form, he signed a capital gains tax cut. He said that abortion should be safe, legal, and rare. Any Democratic got up and said that any of those things today would probably be thrown off the subway tracks, run over by by the four or five train here in Manhattan.
32:55 Or or or they would have gone by a grassy knoll. Yeah, not survived. Aggress You know something of the kind. You know, you look at the nineteen nineties or even like early two thousands platform of the Democrat Party, and I think that would be I think the folks now describe that as fascist. Where we're I mean, you can go back to some speeches where you had I certainly Bill Clinton, Chuck Schumer. I think even Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, the former Democrats Senate Democrat leader using the term illegal alien. Well, you say illegal alien now and you might as well become like a n bomb. Oh my god, that's a you're canceled. So the Democrat Democrat Party has just hurtled so much further left from what it was even ten fifteen years ago, it's almost unrecognizable, Whereas I think the Republican Party under Trump is more or less it's always been. It's for low taxes, for fiscal restraint, for deregulation. I think the trade pictures probably changed some from where it was, you know, back in the Reagan or maybe even Baby Bush days, but most of the conservative agenda's about where it's been all along.
33:59 I think this style in the language may have changed some. You look at the substance of Democrat Party agenda, and it's so much further left than it was even you know, a decade dec and a half, decade and a half ago. Well, what should happen, Deroy, is that you're exactly right. The republic the Republican Party or Conservatives have been consistent with their brand. And what the Democrats are doing now is they've gone bud light, They've gone you know, cracker barrel in destroying their brand. That they have. And so here you've got chaos and brain damage that's going on within the party. And I know a lot of Democrats are scratching their head and they're going, okay, well, all right, they it's a primary, but the true test is going to be in the general election. Can they win some seats in the general election and you know, be able to capitalize on some of this momentum that they're claiming they have.
34:54 Well, you know, the polls show that Democrats are now I think fifty two percent of Democrats are in favor of socialism. I think somewhere in the forty five is ranger in favor of capitalism. So maybe Democrats are more socialists than capitalists, but independence reject socialism. I think seventy percent reject socialism. Among Republicans, I think ninety one percent favor capitalism over socialism. I'm not sure those nine percent socialist Republicans are I'd probably name a couple of them perhaps, But I think what's the trouble that the Democrats going to face in November is they may be to be able to turn out a bunch of their Democrats who favor this stuff, but independence don't like it. Republicans are certainly not going to support them. I think the only the biggest compounding factor or confounding factor potentially is if the economy is in bad shape, if gas prices are still high. I think a lot of that depends on the Iran war and if it gets settled or calm down, or if this thing roars on. So that's a big variable that we can't determine yet. But you know, things are normal and calm down, the economy stays on track, and the prices become inflation cools down a bit. I think it's gonna be very hard for the Democrats to get past all these crazy people. They're wacky ideas, and you know, this guy Elseia just said the other day he wants illegal aliens to have driver's licenses. You know, you don't belong to this country. And he said the quote was something like, well, you know, they deserve to get all the benefits they can or words to that effect. No, they deserve the benefit they deserve. I'm for this is a free ride of the border and they're told, okay, start swimming south. That's that's as much public benefit I want to see these people get after they've broken into our countries without papers up, permission and without anybody, anybody
36:26 vetting them or seeing who they are, what they want, where they're going. So they have the right to go right to go home. And that's it. And yet el say it is saying, oh, you get a driver's license as many benefits as we can cram down your grow. Yeah, and we'll put you back behind the wheel of a commercial truck. Oh even more so. Yeah. I mean you're not just driving a hot a civic to work, you're driving an eighteen wheeler. Because what could go wrong? You know how many cush you don't and you don't know the English language, Like that's a problem, Yeah, don't worry about it. You know you can't read the sign that says you know a bridge broken or traffic jam ahead or you know, slippery the turn of slippery one wet. If you can't read that again, what could go wrong? How many crashes have we seen with these illegal aliens who got commercial driver's licenses, many from California are driving eighteen wheel rigs that can't read the signs and they plow into people.
37:14 And I think at this point we must be somewhere around ten twelve fifteen people killed, murdered, I mean dead. The consequence of these people who don't know what they're doing, dead bodies. It's not funny, it's like cute. Well, and that's the problem with all this illegal immigration. You put it in one big bucket. And what they don't want to talk about is how many innocents, innocent American citizens have died at the hands of these illegal immigrants. They don't want to talk about it. Absolutely no, they don't. I mentioned that the drivers of the commercial driver's licenses and eighteen wheel trucks. You've got lots of people have been killed by drunk drivers. It seems to be a real problem. You have other people who are not drunk, but they don't know if they're doing the crashing of people in regular cars and kill them.
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42:07 Thanks John, you heard it. Folks, take advantage of this opportunity and call now. Eight hundred eight three zero five zero five zero. Advertisement sponsored by Legal Health Center. May not be available in all states. Not available in California. We're talking with that Deroy Murdoch. He's a Atton based Fox News contributor. Yeah, I mean, how many stories and heartbreaking stories do you want to hear from these families and you know, it's just like, you know, America is too nice, Roy too nice. That's the problem. Wait, two know, and a lot of these people have been convictive of crimes. They said, well, you know you're convicted, but you know, run free until you go to jail.
42:50 We'll come back in you know, six months when we'll lock you up. And of course they're run free and do it again and again and again. I mean, so horrifying to see so many of these cases where these guys actually have been in because of all the sanctuary city stuff that let them go and guess what, they go and do the same crime again and rape, injure, rape or kill more people. It's just so maddening and so so frustrating, and. Like, who was that guy they let out and within hours he's killing people. He kills somebody. You let him out. I think in like two hours he went killed somebody else. And no in the last couldn't even wait till the day after the day he got out. A couple hours after he was out, he was back to work killing people. That was about two week or two ago. Unbelievable. Yeah, I mean, look at Uh, if this country's going to get back on track, it's going to require a movement, a real movement, and the silent majority. And these these people, I say, these people you know who think like us, that that are fed up with this injustice, with you know, fed up with all this chaos that's going on. And uh, you know, we got to take a stand against what is really a clear choice. Now you either are for liberty or you're going to or you're going to be a socialist. And that's what it comes down to. And uh, I don't I don't see this playing in the in the heart of America. But the mainstream media is doing everything they can to fan the flames and keep this alive. And uh, and to me, it's like, at least report on it fairly.
44:18 Well, I think you're asking way too much, Bill, I mean, I know, I'm sorry the news media to tell us that what's happening. Give us the news. I mean, that's really that's a that's a tall order. It would be nice if they actually gave us the news and said, all right, you know, we gave you the facts, we give you the figures. You guys decide if you like or don't dislike what you're seeing. That's how it used to be. But now, of course they've got their their thumbs, if not their hands or arms, maybe their legs on the scales, and so we don't get the full news. I mean, the easiest way to the easiest path to media bias is just don't report things. I mean, you can sit there and spend a lot of all day doing a twisted story that twists the truth much easier, just don't write the story, take a long lunch and go home. And a lot of times was time a slanted story. Just don't report it, and them people look at don't get that information, which is really quite irritating.
45:03 But I do think in November, in a lot of these races, you're gonna have a very clear choice. You're gonna have a pro freedom candidates wants smaller government, let people keep more of their money, let them make more decisions as to how they want to live their lives. On the other side, you're going to have these democrats, socialist or socialist democrats who want to take more of your money, razor taxes, spend your money on your behalf, and tell you what to do from when you wake up in the morning she crawl back into bed, and we'll have a very first clear choice. You know, it won't be shades of gray. I think it's going to be very clear, black and white contrast, and people can decide, and hopefully they'll they'll pick the path of freedom and prosperity, not the patent, not the road to serf them. But we'll see in a few months. Well, you bring up a good point, and this is one thing I can appreciate in a strange sort of way, these Democratic Socialists. They're just telling you like it is.
45:51 I mean, like you know you had the one gal she was on with, well she was you know, one of the heads of the DSA party, right, and she's with Shannon. Shannon Brings is asking right down the line, yes, no question, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we want to get rid of the police. Oh yeah, get rid of the Senate. I mean it wasn't no, it wasn't any hesitation, no strand or nothing. I mean if it had been Carble, I mean you'd sit there and you go, Okay, I in ten minutes of him, and I need therapy because I don't know what's up or what's down anymore. When he's always sure. I'll give you a great example. That's Gavin Newsom. I mean, listen to any speech by Gavin Newsom and then try to tell me what he said. And you know it's gibberish, it doesn't make sense, it's circular.
46:33 And I will give credit to people like AOC and Bernie Sanders, these these far left crazies. They'll tell you which what they want to do when they're very open about it. Here in New York, when mon Dommy got elected, I wrote a piece. I said, look, I don't like his platform, I don't like what he ran on, but I give him full credit. I said, he told New Yorkers what he was going to do. He said, over and over, he said at point where all of us could recite as agenda to ourselves after a couple of weeks of hearing it, and it was all out there. None of it was hid, and it wasn't you know, tuck behind, tucked in little crevices anywhere, is all right in the open. And the people voted and they got it. And now, like they say, he's going to give it, give it to us good and heart, and we're getting it good and hard now. But can say, oh, my god, I'm surprised. Where did that come from? It was all right during the campaign, So I give these DSA people credit for at least being honest about what they believe.
47:15 Yeah, it's not like Virginia or New Jersey, right where the slide of hand was such. Anyway, Hey, I want to talk about your latest article, the Justice Fund. What's going on? Well, we had this Justice Fund which President Trump proposed one point seven to seven six billion dollars that would be used to compensate the victims of government weaponization. And Tom Tillis so called republic from North Carolina and Rhino John Corny of Texas screening the album, said, oh my god. This they basically absorbed the left talking points, which is that this would would allow Trump to give big payoffs to his supporters and also give money to the January sixth people who perpetrated that attack on the Capitol.
47:59 This fund, and fact, this wasn't money that was coming out of the treasury. This was based on a lawsuit that Trump won, and he put the money up and he's saying, Okay, we're going to heal some of these people that have been the effect of the law. Fair and subjected that they were subjected by during the Biden administration, Right. That's right. Yeah, people who are victims of primarily the Russia hoax, other types of victimization, people who suffered under the weaponization of the Justice Department, and also to some degree HHS. I suppose maybe the irs during COVID when they came out and said, you know, the vaccine has some problems, masks may not be smart for little kids, et cetera. And these people got canceled. They were told by FBI. Ran around Silicon Valley saying, deep platform these people from Facebook. Make sure they don't make any money on ex et cetera, et cetera. And Trump said, look, these people need to be compensated for their abuse by the federal government. And Cornyn and Tillis, as I say, just absorbed the less talking points, screamed and yelled and said, you know, until Trump kills this fund, we're not going to vote for to let Todd Blanche Attorney General nominique get out of the Justice Justice Judiciary Committee. And so finally Todd Blanche sent them a letter and said, okay, the Justice Fund is dead, but there is fortunately something called the Judgment Fund. The Judgment fund has been there since the days of Eisenhower, and it's exactly for this purpose to compisate people who suffered because of either neglect or abuse or whatever kind of ill treatment by the
49:30 federal government. And there are people I list seven of this article, people who really suffered very badly. Yeah, Russiagate situation. I was a woman who's still alive named Loua Abershaw. Her husband Lee Averershov was an associate of Paul Maniford, the former campaign manager to Trump. He saw a story about the Russiagate thing and he said, I need to get a lawyer, and he started paying his legal bills. He had to go get a second job driving doing pizza deliveries. He was under so much stress that he ended up getting sick, got cancer, and so Luba Evershav is now a widow and she blames her husband's death on basically disease, which was triggered by all the stress he felt. And he was dead by age sixty one, if you can believe that with massive legal bills and that sort of thing. Second case is Michael Caputo, a friend of mine I've known since we were in college, and he had attorney's fees of about five hundred and eighty thousand dollars he had to pay just for going before the House and Senate Investment Intelligence committees, just testifying as a witness. He also had clients from his public affairs agency who saw the controversy. They canceled their contracts.
50:35 He figures that this whole mess has cost him something like two point five million dollars in revenue since twenty seventeen. You know the story of Michael Flynn. And he's he's lucky he still has his law license. Right. No, he's not attorney. He wasn't a journey He was not an attorney. He public affairs guy. So he's back to that business, but lost a lot of money along the way. We saw Michael Flynn get wrapped up in this whole mess. Former NSC advisor under President Trump five million dollars in fees. He had to sell his house in order to pay his legal bills. We've got other people who've gotten at his sell homes. Paul Maniford got wrapped up in all this. His expenses are massive, about twenty five twenty six thousand dollars in real estate and restitution.
51:17 He spent a couple of years, almost two years in federal prison in solitary confinement. And the thing about all these cases, and there about three or four others in story which you can read. It's American Spectator story, these people did nothing wrong. It would be one thing if you know, these people said hey, I'm going to have lunch at their Russian ambassador and they said something that they shouldn't or you know, inadvertently leaked something that shouldn't have, or gave him some information they thought was kosher but actually was sensitive classified. Then he gets, all right, you shouldn't have done that, you know, shame on you. But these people did nothing wrong. We determined from the Senate Intelligence Committee, House Intelligence Committee, the FBI, and the Robert Mueller Probe Special Council Robert Muller's investigation in a Russiagate that there were no Americans, Americans whatsoever, helped Russia hack the twenty sixteen election. Now, they attempted to influence the election, but no American helped them do that. Not Donald J. Trump, none of his campaign staff, none of his supporters. Four different probes which were started by very hostile people really wanted nail Trump they looked and said, Nope, we can't find any evidence the Trump or any other American did anything to help Russia interfere in the twenty sixteen election.
52:23 So these people did nothing wrong. And yet despite that, the people have lost their homes. There are millions of dollars in debt to their lawyers. As I said, they've been by Michael Putto did get cancer in the middle of all this that I'm sure the stress from that didn't help. So these people had been made very ill. Lee Evershoff died from his illnesses. So this is deadly, nasty, horrible stuff. And I hope the judgment fund gives these people the compensation they deserve for all the suffering that they've held, that they've suffered at the hands of the deep state, again for doing nothing wrong. They did nothing wrong. Yeah, well, and here once again you've got including a former resident who talked about, you know, election interference and interfering with the smooth transition of power. And he's right up front and center on this old deal. You know, Barack Obama orchestrating all this stuff with Hillary Clinton, interfering with the you know, the twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen election, and you know what's the consequence, Well, not even a slap on the hand.
53:27 You know, we talked about Russian collusion. The only Russian collusion that took place was on the part of the Democrats. As you mentioned, Hillary Clinton when she was at the State Department, allowed the Uranium one deal to go through. In essence, what happened is the Kremlin was able to control twenty percent of the US uranium supply. Okay, that's major help and assistance to Russia that went through. Nothing ever happened. That was Russian collusion. And then you know what Hillary did with the campaign where she got Perkins Cooey to get Fusion GPS to do opposition research on Trump. They went and got this spy and in Great Britain to put together that what was called the Dirty Dossier about Trump's alleged involvement with Russia and his chief witness, the person he relied on to get information. This was a Russian guy named Igor Dutchenko. Okay, so the only Russian involvement we had wasn't the part of Hillary Clinton and the Democrats. They got a Russian guy to say bad stuff. But Trump pump that into the electoral into the political landscape and her fine for that, by the way, her punishment and eight thousand dollars fine, eight thousand bucks.
54:30 That's it. No jail time, no major fine. I think the eight thousand dollars fine got paid by her campaign. So this is what happened to the Democrats A little time microscopic finds occasionally, but mainly they get book deals, they get TV contracts. The oppressors who hurt these people. I described to you people like John Brennan and John Clapper and Peter Struck and Andrew Weisman at the FBI. You turn on MS now you turn on CNN, and those guys are on TV ammering away about public policy getting paid. I'm sure six digits are more for their appearances. And those are the consequences they quote unquote suffer book contracts and TV deals. Well, our guys go bankrupt, lose their homes, and go to prison. Yeah there it is, Deroy Murdoch. Thank you, Deroi. I appreciate it. Again. Remind everybody where they can read more about it.
55:17 I'm sure this is an article that just came out on the American Spectator and it's all about the end of the Justice Fund. But these people ought to be compensated by the Judgment Fund. Yeah, I agree, so American Spectator Til's in coortant to kill the Justice Fund along with the Judgment Fund. That's the headline. Well there it is. Check it out, ladies and gentlemen. He is Deroy Murdoch, the Manhattan Makes Fox News contributor. Thank you, de Roy, take care, got speak. All right, Bill, Talk to you soon. Thank you bye. We call ourselves a SAP travel for one reason. We can help you book a ticket asap. For those of you that don't know, that means as soon as possible. That means no wait time, you get through right away, no searching online. Our specialty is the lowest available fairs on the big name airlines.
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56:51 Getting America back on track. Bill Martinez Live. Welcome Morning America. Six minutes after the top of the our I am Bill Martinez is Scott pal for the Discovering Institute and the infamous author himself who's got a new book coming out. I'll just tease it that much. And you know, we're excited. We can't wait until it's uh its final release. But I guess, uh, it's almost at the printers even as we're talking, right. Yeah, it's it's a contract is signed and it's going through an editing process and it's on an extradited path because it's using a fast technology for printing books. Yeah, I mean, how dare them edit genius?
57:31 I mean, no, no, no, no, what are they? Mom? Guy? I benefit from every editor I. No, I understand. I mean, they're they're really God's blessing, you know, to have have editors and you know always the second eyes like that or are quite the value? U? There are? Yeah? Yeah, I want to talk about your latest article is a town hall right, yes, Uh, time to stop, time to stop negotiating with terrorists. Let's get her done. Uh, let's get the job done. Well there, I point out in the article that there's been a normal sea bias that has crept into a people who involved with policymaking and strategic uh, you know, military thinking, you know, and that and and that has been that. You know, we fight wars to negotiate a settlement, settlements.
58:28 You know, the purpose of war is not necessarily to get a victory, a decisive win where you dictate the terms, but rather a negotiated settlement. That's what went on in Vietnam. That's what's gone in many wars, and it's true in Iran and. Chamber so so Neville Chamberlain lives. This is what you're telling me. I'm not sure that it's Nevill Chamberlain. I think it's a combination of Uh. Well, that's why I use the normal sea bias. The normalcy bias is that we think about other people the way we think about ourselves. That we're rational people and we will negotiate a truce and a settlement. If we're losing a war, you know, we don't we don't want to keep you know, you don't want to fight a losing battle to the end. That's that's not that's not wise. So you negotiate a settlement.
59:23 So the view of of you know, Haig Seth and Trump is that if we drop enough bomb tonnage on them and you know, enough firepower, enough you know, damage raising the pain, that these people are going to negotiate in good they're going to negotiate a peace settlement that they'll stick to. I think it's nonsense. Well, it's non historical. They've never done it. They have no exactly. So I mean, I mean again, I keep referring to Thomas Jefferson. He saw that early. It took care of business and in the Marines, and you know, the modern military mindset, and it's it's it's unusual for me because you know, when Hegseeth came out, he talked about you know, the warrior ethos, you know, and and of course Hegseeth only has so much authority. It's it's the president who's orchestrating this. And uh, you know, you're exactly right. When you go to war, you go to win, I mean, and anything less than that, uh, you're you're giving up.
1:00:29 You're giving up too much for all that you've expended. And especially in this case, because we have been on and off again uh with Iran, and they're going to continue to do everything they can to drag it out because they know America. They they know our ethos better than we do. That we will think in that in that kind of normal delusion, you know that somehow we're trying to fit a round peg in a square hole gear. Well, they also are trying to play us, you know, because they know a midterm election is coming, and so there's no vulnerability to want to you know, stop the war because it can be negative for the Trump administration and the Republican Party.
1:01:10 So it's it's it's problematic. But I think if we can win this war, and I point out that there's three things that we we need to do, uh to you know, to bring a quick end to this war, and that is that we need to we need to destroy or m h make all routes to you know that are connected to other countries. You know, we can control the sea routes, but the overland routes from primarily from Pakistan. But you know, you also have other neighbors to the north and if if, if they can import re armaments, that's not a good thing. So we need we need to absolutely cut those off totally. There can be no resupplying Iran for any of armed Number two, we need to cut off their oil export. And I think we've done a pretty good job, but we really need to make it absolute, so there's no revenue coming into Iran.
1:02:23 Yeah, because that's what the pause that when you hit the pause button, then there's a there's a flow of revenue because they're able to export. So yeah, it's it's counterproductive in that way. And they know how to move, They move very quickly. In fact, they they had were there was reports that in these pauses the kind of billions of dollars that they're generating. Scott, Yeah, we can't allow that. Yeah, it's ridiculous, that's crazy. Yeah, you might as well have you know, Obama send more palettes of cash in the dark of night, right, just saying. Just saying. And lastly, I mean, this is a serious business. But if we did these things and there's a third thing, you see, and I used the you know, I know my history reasonably well of foreign countries and particularly Japan.
1:03:09 I has been married to a Japanese woman and studied East Asian culture. The Japanese were a society that, leading up to World War two, merged their Shinto beliefs with the state interests, and they believed that there that their emperor, Emperor hero Hido, was a direct descendant from the god Amritsu, so that he was infallible. Therefore Japan was infallible. So the war was conducted in this way of infallibility that they were going to win, and they were going to you know, Japan had a vision of. Ruling the world. Actually do you know that? And so they developed a kamikazi uh you know strategy, right, It's very similar to the Iranian strategy, the Chiehte death cults, the same thing, same thing. So, but we won decisive victory in Japan and therefore, and I point out that the vast majority of Japanese people supported the state supported the war effort.
1:04:19 In Iran, it's just the opposite. The vast majority over eighty percent of the Iranian people want the Mulla regime defeated. In other words, we have eighty more than eighty percent of people on our side in Iran. We need to use that. And so when we can achieve these two first goals cutting off all ability to bring in rearmament and number two cutting off all ability to raise money through exporting oil, then the next the third stage is arming the people. We need to arm the people. And I don't know how many arms are required. I did research and found that when you know, when the uh Kumani took over after in the seventy nine revolution, there were about three hundred there were about three hundred thousand people that had arms. Three hundred thousand, right, So I mean I think we should have over half a million arms.
1:05:16 I don't know, but there's certainly intelligence people that can calculate what's required get those arms into the hands of the people. And you know, it's a big country, it's very spread out, and we. Control the ninety million population there, Scott, you know. Yes, yes, right, yeah, but not all of them are going to fight. I mean it's the men, yeah, merily, it's all the men pretty much. And we can do air drops. We control the skies, right, you know, do air drops of small arms all over the place, and that regime is going to fall because it's it's on its last legs. Now that pallette of pavers collecting dust the beginnings of a those stray fence posts. Are you haunted by half finished projects on your land? John Deere is here to say not anymore. Our compactractors allow you to swap implements easily, and they're backed by the nation's largest dealer network. You always had the right idea, and with the right tools, those projects can get finished for good. Nothing runs like a deer. Learn more at John Dere dot com slash Compactractors.
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1:10:48 Nutrition for Patriots. While we're talking with Scott Pale, senior fellow at the Discovery Institute in the author and a member of the committee on this present danger in China, and Scott, you're exactly right. I mean, they've been pulverized, but you know, the the leadership the RGC is so determined, and you know we've identified that this is a death cult. It's a different type of war at this point. And the people themselves, even though they greatly outnumber the RGC, they don't have weapons, and they but they've got to feel like if if they're if the weapons are given to them that they have a fair shot at it, you know, and right now they don't. I mean, they they thought, like normal people, Hey, we're going to revolt and go out in the street. What do we got to lose? Well, they found out what they had to lose with their lives because the GC just came out and mowed them down.
1:11:53 Over fifty thousand people they killed, and you know, and I think that's a conservative number, and the still killing people, and you know, it's just like, okay, when or when do they get to the point that they you know, kind of like America when America got to that point and said, okay, what have we got to lose? You know, We're going to put our reputation, We're putting our very lives, our you know, resources, everything, We're going to put it all on the line for the sake of freedom. And this is what's being required of the Iranian people. But the United States has to think in terms and of course, you know, you and I are talking and there's a lot of smart people militarily that are strategizing all this.
1:12:36 But you know, I think that you know, our opinion and our ideas are about as fair as anybody else's because this thing is lingering, as you. Say, yes, yes, no, I think that you know, the regime actually is very it's been greatly diminished. I mean, we've taken out a lot of the upper echelon. Oh, we know that there are defections for the you know, from the army. We we but we need to get these three things done. The third one being arming the people. They are not going to go out in the streets and get mowed down, but if they have weapons, they probably will fight.
1:13:17 Yeah. And and I don't and I don't know that there's a contingent within Iran. I got to think there would be you know, some military uh, you know, download underground you know, organization, because that that's always the case. But they're not going to risk at all, you know, unless they have you know, they have a fair chance and they feel like, okay, the strategy is set up, you know, uh, Israel is in place the United States in terms of what they're doing overhead. Uh, and that they're going to be able to They're gonna have to go. It's gonna there's gonna have to be you know, some ground fighting here. You know, we we've pulverized them in the air. That's not enough. They're not ready to cry uncle yet. And so this is really demanding a face to face confrontation, don't you think.
1:14:09 Well, I don't know that we need troops on the ground yet. I mean, we have amazing, uh military equipment. I mean the you know, the A ten warthog. This is a killing machine. So when you know, you know, when the IRGC comes out in any sort of you know, in any sort of group, they can be easily eliminated. Yeah, but they're not coming out they know better. Well, if they're going to come out to kill Iranian people, let's kill them first, right. I mean, I'm not a military strategist, so I don't know, but I believe that there is I believe this is when this is very winnable, very very winnable. And it may take just a little bit longer than we'd like, but I think it can be a fairly a fairly h swift defeat if we get these three things in place.
1:15:05 Well, like everything Scott in every military operations, certainly in the recent time, you know, you think back and you look back historically and say, did we underestimate our our enemy? And uh, and that may be the case here. Uh, it may be a situation that uh, you know where Donald Trump cares more about life certainly than the IRGC. You know, they could care less about the Iranians there. Uh, you know, they're they care more about their ideology and of course for them, because some of this is driven by religious zelotry. They are doing this all in the name of the Mahdi because they feel like they're set in the stage and that they if they abandon uh you know, their their fight right now, it will preclude the Madi coming in. So, I mean, the level of religious militry is is beyond comprehension. In the West, we don't know that zelotry.
1:16:05 Yeah, well we know that that that that was the zelotry in Japan, and we defeated Japan. Now we use two nuclear bombs to bring them, you know, for them to surrender. And this is different, but it's still somewhat similar. If we can get more decisive military defeats, diminish their numbers, uh, and arm the people. And they have no revenue. I mean, you know, this is a very weak regime. Now we are underestimating its weakness. Actually I believe. Right, Well, hey, they're they'rewithstanding us, I know, even to this point, so uh, you know, weak as relative. I think that, you know, we got Japan to that point where you know, reason was able to to be present after two Adam bombs hit Japan, and the emperor, I believe, finally had to wake up to reality and deal with the responsibility of his own citizens being you know, being killed here and knowing that my goodness, they just overpowered and two atomic bombs, and like, we got to stop this otherwise we're going to be totally destroyed. So there was enough I guess, enough sense in the emperor and concern for his own people that he was willing to
1:17:37 negotiate an unconditional surrender. I don't think that's the case, and I think you agree with that that that's not the case with the with the Mullahs and the current regime of Iran. No, it's not. But I think that the same principles are still true, and that is that if you can really show such force and such destruction and you lose a lot of your you know, you you lose a lot of the uh you know I g R you know, the the you know, the the Islamic I r GC forces uh, and and their you know, political leadership is just continues to be diminished. There can come a point where the people can get the job done if they're armed.
1:18:31 But I I believe that's the case. I agree with you that it's going to be up to the people to respond when when it's ready. And I don't know how many more people have to die before they get to that point and that they have access to weapons to where they can defend themselves. But I think in terms of uh, a political component, don't you think the component, that political component is all but dead because it would appear that the I r GC is that they have the full you know, control of everything. You know, they're the ones that are pulling the levers right now. You know, there's whatever politically seems to be out there just seems to be more of a paper tiger. And that you know, I got a handed to them. They're doing enough to convince Trump that there's some hope and you know, let's stretch this out a little bit longer. But I think that uh, you know, and I thought this the last time that Trump was on his last thread, But it would seem that, you know, if he's not there, he's pretty close to there.
1:19:38 Well, yeah, and we've got you know, we have Sunni regimes that I think are gonna will join us. They've already they've already done military strikes. So let's let's get overwhelming force going uh and and and let's save these Iranian people. You know, this is a great cause. This is a wonderful cause that would transform the Middle East more than anything else. Right, it really is a noble cause. Yeah, it is. It is, And I agree, I agree totally. And I think this is why I supported uh, you know, going in and stopping Iran from going nuclear, the danger that they would create it, I mean, and and I that's the thing that to me just blows me away is how the Democrats, because they hate Trump so much and adversarial, they cannot see that, you know, they refuse to see that this is a good thing, is making sure Iran does not go nuclear. It's almost like as if they're cheering them on and uh and being antagonistic to the President of the United States.
1:20:45 It's you know, it's it's a you know, our bizarre domestic politics have degraded significantly. So yeah, and of course then here we are, you know, we're realizing the Democratic Party is not the Democratic Party anymore, and so that adds to the chaos as well, because the Democratic Party is in a civil war of their own. But anyway, we'll continue to report and keep our eyes on at Scott Pellell and thank you as always appreciate you coming on. Scott is a author member of the Committee on this President Danger China, a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute. Thank you, sir, take care of got speed. Thank you Bill. We call ourselves Asap Travel for one reason. We can help you book a ticket asap. For those of you that don't know, that means as soon as possible. That means no wait time, you get through right away, no searching online. Our specialty is the lowest available fairs on the big name airlines you know them. We can't tell you their names. You can fly domestically or internationally and save more money than you could if you call the airlines directly. Our proprietary software goes underneath the hood of the major airline booking systems and find you the best rates available. So if you're ready to make your travel plans right now, business or vacation travel, we have all the major airlines always at great rates. Call asap trips and we'll have your ticket in your inbox in fifteen minutes.
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1:24:59 Hey, welcome back, Good morning to you. Glad you coul join us. Bill Martinez here for more information on the show, you can check it out Bill Martinez Live dot com. You know, more than fifty million Americans one in every seven people, receive care through community health centers, making them one of the nation's largest providers of affordable, comprehensive healthcare. More than fifteen hundred community health centers operate seventeen thousand service sites nationwide, providing primary care, behavioral health, they don't care, and other essential services regardless of a patient's ability to pay. And here to tell us more about it is the President and CEO of the National Association of Community Health Centers, Doctor Qree, Doctor q how are you.
1:25:44 I'm good. Thank you so much Bill for having me. Hey, great to have you here to talk about this, because as patients' needs continue to grow, we're looking to community health centers to help out. Right, Yes, we are, and as you shared, over fifty million people have chosen to get their care at a community health center, and one in seven, including one in three in rural America. Over the last six years, we've grown to be our nation's largest primary care system. We are at the front door to health, right, and I think you know your listeners want to know how do I get healthy? How do I stay healthy?
1:26:25 We have over seventeen four hundred welcome matts, welcoming everyone across the nation, regardless of their ability to pay. Well, doctor Q, I think you know the concern for health is increase because we're living longer, and we're back to that old Yogi bear saying yeah, I don't know if you remembered or not. You know, he said that if I knew I was going to live this long, I'd taken better care of myself. Right, Yes, it is so important. You know, we often we are living longer, although we've you know, we are at this moment where we have chronic disease crisis. We also have a challenge in terms of aging populations in the US. So you know, it's important to not only live long, but live well. And that's what Cammia Hell Centers are about, finding ways to make sure.
1:27:16 I as a primary care doc, you know understand firsthand. You know, my job is to prevent that person with hypertension to get a stroke and have a heart attack and have pain and suffering that person with diabetes, preventing an amputation, preventing blindness, preventing kidney. Failure and dialysis. So ultimately we are about primary care and prevention and keeping keeping people and families healthy in their community. You know, as you say, doctor Q, you know, yes, people are living longer. But you know it's it's almost like we've got a different set of ailments as you as you just outline versus twenty years ago, right, I. Mean, we are you know challenged with you know, chronic diseases.
1:27:59 I reference you know, physical health issues like hard health issues, you know, diabetes. Mental health is becoming. A very big challenge especially you know, as we've learned you know, you know the challenges that we've had, you know, during the pandemic and post pandemic. I think there's a better appreciation of mental health issues, substance abuse issues. So we are in this very keen moment where I believe primary care is the solution. Community health centers are the solution to address this crisis, this affordability crisis, this trust crisis, and this opportunity keep people healthy in the community, living longer, living healthier, and really saving the healthcare system money. We only cost one percent of healthcare spend to serve fourteen percent of the population.
1:28:52 We deliver a thirteen to one ROI. Studies on primary care have shown you invest one dollar in primary care, you get thirteen dollars of saving. So I believe we are the solution to address some of these challenges we face. Well, you know, you bring up some excellent points here, and I'm sure people are stopping to think going thirteen to one ROI. I mean, that is an awesome investment. But you know, for those not familiar with community health centers, what is a community health center and who can actually use them? So, as I was sharing, you know, we've grown from those first two health centers in rural Mississippi and East Boston nineteen sixty five to now have over seventeen four hundred sites across this country.
1:29:37 We are the front door to health and healthcare. We are available for everyone. All are welcome is what the welcome mat says at a community health center. We are also in communities where the need is the highest, in rural communities, in underserved communities. We're that safety net that catches people when the restless system can't or hasn't. We're also built on three core principles of being affordable, comprehensive, and effective. We're committed to high quality care. We also are patient governed. So I would say at a time we have a trust crisis in our healthcare system, to know that fifty one percent of the board of that health center when you're in a waiting room is actually members of that community patients who are served there. That make sure that the health center is accountable to the people it serves, which is I think a big reason why this model works.
1:30:30 Yeah, I mean, this is awesome. When you're you know that you know patient I guess we can say patient centric. Is that fair to say? Yeah? Patient centered, patient governed. You know, we often think in the healthcare system there's all these stakeholders that play a role in the care we get, you know, payers, policy makers, and the reality is, you know, health centers, just like the rest of the system, should be focused on patients, and we are by design patient centered and patient governed. Well, how do community health centers you know, you kind of touched on this a little bit, but I want to you know, unpack this a little bit more and how they make such a great difference in everyday lives of patients across the country.
1:31:18 I think it starts with that welcome mat that front door, that trust, and the fact that we also know we save lives and save money, so people know whether they're through friends and family. You know, we were originally called neighborhood health centers. They know in that neighborhood, that's where you can get great care that keeps you healthy or gets you healthy. And we're designed to serve everyone regardless of ability to pay. So when we look at the numbers and we just got record a record breaking numbers in terms of our growth from when we look at last year's numbers, which is the fifty two point three million that we serve and the three hundred and thirty four thousand plus workforce that serves you know, we serve veterans nearly half a million in a year. We serve children over ten million, We serve seniors you know, over four million. We serve a lot of people who are unhoused.
1:32:15 One point six million people who are homeless. So the fact that we meet whatever the need is and we're welcome to all, I think is one of the ways. We make that difference every day. So I appreciate we're talking about Health Center Week this week, but I just want you to know, in your community, in your community, the community health centers working twenty four to seven, three hundred and sixty five days a year to keep your community healthy. What an asset to the community. I believe that the communities that do have, you know, these health centers, if you know, just are relieved in many ways and grateful for what you're doing. Again, ladies and gentlemen, The National Association of Community Health Centers founded in nineteen seventy one to champion community health centers deliver r, affordable, effective, comprehensive primary care that is community driven and improves health for all.
1:33:07 And we're talking with doctor q Ree. He is the president and CEO of the National Association of Community Health Centers. What makes the models so unique? What makes you different than any other hospital for that matter. Yeah, I mean we talked a little bit about this. We're local, we're patient governed, We're about that trust. We go to where the need is. We take care of the whole person, not just one disease, not just one condition, not just one organ system, the whole person, the whole family, and the whole community. We're multi generational. I as a primary career, doc loved the fact that I had the privilege of serving children, the parents, the grandparents, that whole family.
1:33:52 That's wild. I love it. Yeah, that's great. Yeah, And you know, we provide oral health, we provide behavioral health, we provide pharmacy services, We go beyond the exam room. We partner with local community based organizations. We recognize that health is more than just healthcare. And so I think this is what makes our care model unique, that ability to go to whatever the need is and build that trust. Well, doctor Q as we wrap things up two things very quickly. Of course, as we mentioned, this is National Health Center Week. What's the one message you want every American, every policy maker to understand about community health centers and where can listeners go for more information and find a community health center near them.
1:34:37 So the one message is that when we have a health system that's played with credibility issues and trust, communa health centers are the one of the few parts of the health system that still has earned trust and has trust by design because patients help govern them. And we need you to support committa health centers locally. You think about National. Health Center Week, I ask you to look at our website NACCHC dot org. Discover your local health center. Go to the Final Health Center tool which lets you search by zip code, city or state. Also, we need you to sign up and be an advocate.
1:35:19 Go to the policy and Advocacy part and go advocate and sign up for our action alerts because there are so many issues that are happening in your state capitals and in Washington that's important for you to be aware of as you look to advocate for your commune health center. And lastly, look to donate to your local community health center. Look to donate and support the work we do at NAC because it is so important that we all work together to make sure the communities that we serve get and stay healthy well. Doctor Kirie, the President CEO of the National Association and Community Health Centers, thank you for coming on the show and telling us all about it, and have an enjoyable and health healthy National Health Center Week.
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1:40:09 Hey, we're back with you. Bill Martinez here along with Craig Rutger who joins us now. Craig is the CEA Fact founder and president is Craig. How are we doing? I'm doing great, Bill, Thanks for having me on the program. Always good to have you here to talk about you know, the climate activists as we said before, they're like, you know, as somebody would say, like little cockaroaches, and they just grow another head and they just you know, they just keep hanging in there. I mean, it's it's amazing. I mean, regardless of all the empirical evidence, you know, that's their story and they're gonna stick to it, right Amen. Well, and I'll tell you it's it's concerning what they're doing.
1:40:50 But what we are really alarmed by is some of the antics that they're doing to get inside the Republican Party. They've now launched several different groups that are One of them is called the American Conservation Coalition, the Conservation Environment Network. Uh. These are groups that are gaining traction inside Republican circles, but they're funded by those on the far left, the Rockefeller Foundation and the uh uh you know, uh Mott Foundation, And these are very far left groups and typically only fund groups on the far left. Nobody on the right generally receives it. But these groups have as a mission to bring the GOP faithful and the conservative and libertarian faithful over to what I call the green New Deal light that is kind of embracing the environmental agenda, but saying we want free markets to achieve it as opposed to government mandates. And uh, you know that's that's troubling because it's still a bad agenda, whether you're trying to get big business to push it on communities or whether you're trying to get the government men to do it.
1:42:00 In both cases, it's a bad idea. Well, and like you say, Craig, I mean, this has been going on for decades. What have they done after all this, you know, polyticking and propaganda that they've done. You know, are we better off because of them? Are we worse off? Oh? We're clearly worse off. I mean, in fact, America had some of the cheapest electricity in the world. I mean when we were before we started putting in what they call renewable energy mandates. These are things where states require solar wind and things of that sort, we were paying maybe nine twelve cents of killo what hour. Now it's starting to get up there fifteen to twenty cents of kilo what hour as we make it mandatory and even read some of the red states that twenty five percent must come from energy sources. That al Gore and Greta Tunberg and those people say are necessary to keep us from a planetary apocalypse.
1:42:57 From global warming. That's the only reason for the mandate. It's trying to address climate change. In this whole push is coming to try and avert that so called catastrophe, which is not a catastrophe because the science doesn't indicate in any way, shape or form that we're heading toward an apocalypse. Hence there's no need for the mandate. Hence we don't have to disrupt our lifestyles and buy expensive green energy, stop eating red meat, stop buying elect you know, stop buying you know, combustion engine engine cars and going electric. But that is now their new tact is going after the Conservatives because they've been unsuccessful and getting everybody on board, and they feel that we're the obstacle. You Bill, are the obstacle because you keep holding them accountable. See fact that my organization and a bunch of others have been a stick in the MUDs stopping them from achieving what they want to achieve. So now they're trying to undercut us by going inside.
1:43:57 Well, follow the money, you know, where's this going going to and where's it coming from? I mean, like everything that progressives do they find a way to get their you know, get their hands into the treasury and they bring in a big hose and start sucking, you know, taxpayer money out to their particular interests and those politicians that serve their need and bite their battles because, like you said, I mean, here we are with these renewable energy mandates, and you know how long have they been in effect? And again, what's where's the ROI what benefit have we gotten as a result of the these renewable mandates.
1:44:39 Well, we've seen how electricity go up as as other countries around the world. I mean California now over twenty cents of KILLO what hour? Again, we pay in Virginia, I think it's like thirteen fourteen cents of KILLO what hour. But we're starting to climb up there in Europe where it's really advanced, they're paying like forty cents of KILLO what hour, fifty cents a kill a what hour. Our electricity rates have just skyrocketed. And I can tell you, Bill, I was at a conference earlier this summer during the midst of that heat wave which I guess is continuing ongoing in Europe, and a lot of them don't have air conditioning, and. Yeah, ye don't have air conditioning. They had I think it was one report, and I think it was a monthly report. I quote me, I mean, you know, correct me if I'm wrong, But they said that the over twenty five thousand people died because of the heat exactly.
1:45:34 And I can tell you firsthand our conference was we were sweating inside. The eventually did roll in a air conditioning unit. I can tell you everybody was gathered around that unit. Cool. Wow, No, this is silly, especially when you've got the technology and the science already in place, but for the stubbornness to try to force fit a round peg in a square hole. And I mean, you know, here the taxpayer and here in America, of course we hear about the price of gas all along, but you know, when they start looking at energy, it's almost like they've allowed this just to kind of continue. I don't know for whatever reason. Are they just feeling like maybe it's a small investment for the sake of conservatism or you know, conservation.
1:46:24 I think people, and as you mentioned earlier, and I think what you said is so true, follow the money. The people that are behind this, even in the red states are making a lot of dollars. There's, first off, under the Biden administration, of course, there are a bunch of handouts, tax credits, things like that would give you an incentive to want to get this on your land, So you might be prospering. Everybody else is paying higher rates, so you're kind of prospering off of the rate payers. But the money inside your own personal pocket's doing pretty good, you know. I think that that's the incentive behind it. And I know there's some good farmers and ranchers out there that maybe even put a turbine or allowed it on for the money. And I'm not criticizing them entirely for doing that. They're just doing what's offered them. But as far as a public good, I would rather they stick with their farming that's actually producing food and agriculture and things that are good for society. This wind, you're allowing poison on your land. It's bad for the environment, kills wildlife, and it produces an expensive electricity for the rest of us. So you know, from my perspective, that's one subsidy that I understand being taken, but I wish it were not offered so that it wouldn't be a temptation.
1:47:43 Right exactly. And the farmers, and like you said, you have compassion. I mean, the cost of fertilizer and other expenses have been going on, and it's amazing that the consistent issue in all these costs and expenses that farmers have to deal with is big government. And so here big government is I mean, they're they're they're so wily. I mean, it really is. Is they find a way to entrap the farmer and get them to participate in something that's deleterious to them, like you said, instead of them sticking to what they do best, which is farming. You know, they've got to think, okay, I got to survive.
1:48:24 And uh, you know, it could be the younger farmers that say, okay, you know, we're going to abandon our principles and values here and you know, for the sake of of survival, we're going to participate in this government subsidy, which is you know, it counters. You know, good farming and principles that you know traditionally have been have been a boon and a benefit to farmers. But I mean, like you said, you can't blame them because the government is manipulating all this. I mean, it's all you know. When it seems like Craig is that these are all trojan horses, I mean, we've got trojan horses abounding in all kinds of colors and shapes in every aspect of our lives.
1:49:12 You're right. As a matter of fact, The dirty little secret behind this is the Greens don't want farmers farming at all. What they want to do is ban red meat, for example, for ranching, and they think that farming takes up way too much real estate. They want to return itto wilderness. They have actually a plan to take they call thirty by thirty thirty percent of the Earth's land mast become wilderness by the year twenty thirty, and even a fifty by fifty by twenty fifty to fifty percent of the earth. In that way, one of the things they have to do is get farmers off the land, hence the big push for fake meat. If they can get them employed, they might be putting out green energy as opposed to actually farming. Then they're kind of their slaves because then they can kind of quit farming. So they're doing what the Greens want them to do and get out of that lifestyle entirely and allow green energy to go there and maybe even sell their land and go move to the city where they would really want them to be. Anyway, I mean, the Greens have been responsible for a lot of this. Their climate policies in Europe spark big protests in the Netherlands, in Germany and you know UK because of the fact that you know, they don't want farming and farmers to exist. So in letting these wind farms on and letting these solar farms on long term, that's going to be the demise of our agricultural community long term.
1:50:42 It isn't short term. I get it. You get some book right now, but. Well it just kind of creeps up on you until you realize you go, oh my god, what are we doing. It's kind of like Hawaii the way they've taken over Hawaii, right. They have, as they say, why it enjoys or its benefit of doing this, some of the highest electrics the rates in the country. And so everywhere that this has been tried, you will see heavy industry moving out and you will see you know, them struggling to get any sort of energy for any of their businesses that really matter. That's why you see the hemorrhaging of companies going to China, India, places that use old fashioned electricity. Yes, they do make a lot of the solar panels and wind farms. And you often hear Green saying, oh, they're leaders in renewable energy.
1:51:30 They make all the solar and wind. I said, well, true, but if we had a mandate and they sell them to us at a profit, yes, I said, but if we had a mandate in America where everybody had to have a plastic swing set on their front lawn, I'm sure China and India would create plastic swing sets that we could all place on our front lawn. Not that they would put them on their own front lawn, but they exactly help us do something wet dably stupid. We've got to find a way to push back. And let's wrap things up here, Craig, So what do we do? What's our action step here? Well, our action step is first and foremost, we got to realize that the because I know a lot of primaries in that are coming up, and some just happened last night, and I think we have to ask our candidates and the people leading us, do they buy into this radical green agenda right in the town meetings and hearings and start exposing it. I think that's the first and foremost thing. We have to make it public. Ask them, are they familiar with the fact that the Rockefellers and the others are actually trying to push a green agenda into the Conservative Party? And I think once this is exposed, then we can start seeing them probably flee. So they need to be discredited and they need to be shamed and go back to kind of what President Trump is talking about, a reliable, abundant electricity that can actually power America into the future.
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