Aug. 6, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 08 06 26

The Bill Martinez Show 08 06 26
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The Bill Martinez Show 08 06 26
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Are you ready.

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Yeah, Okay, let's doing Bill Martinez Live, a program about

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current events.

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Our culture, our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Hey, right now, six minutes after the top of the hour.

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I am Bill Martinez and he is doctor Michael Butler. Hey, Michael,

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how you doing.

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I'm doing very well, Bill. Thanks for having me. As

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you know, it's always my pleasure to be here.

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Well, it's our pleasure and honor to always have you

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on your insight. That is so needed right now when

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things are so upside down. I mean, Michael, I got

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to tell you. By the way, ladies, Joe and Michael's

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a public policy analyst. He's the economics expert and professor

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of finance at Stockton University in New Jersey. So unlike

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those on the left, he actually knows that one plus

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one equals too, right, Michael, exactly. But I started to

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tell you, I don't know if you saw this statistic.

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This is just crazy. I can't believe is The latest

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Reuter's poll on voter sentiment shows that voters preferred Democrats

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over Republicans on the economy for the first time in

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a decade. It would seem that all that the mainstream

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media has been doing and propagandizing America is working because

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it's hard to square up all the policies and the

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damage that let's just say in the recent era, that

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the Biden administration did to our economy, what they did

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to affect affordability. It was their policies that created this mess.

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And somehow, you know, with a lot of young people,

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they want to believe the Republicans are the problem. It

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doesn't square up.

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Yeah, it certainly doesn't. So how do we get in

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this mess, particularly with the high inflation that we're trying

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to get rid of. So let me go back in

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history a little bit. We had a very severe inflation

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problem in the nineteen seventies nineteen eighty. The Federal Reserve

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figure they knew what to do, so they used monetary policy,

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brought the inflation rate down, and really for the next

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thirty forty years, forty years, the inflation rate remained at

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around two percent or less. So what happened twenty twenty,

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the pandemic came. Advisors convinced President Trump, whether it's right

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or wrong, he convinced President Trump, you have to shut

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the economy down completely, which he did for a number

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of weeks. Well, that could have brought on a very

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severe recession and may be even worse. So President Trump said, look,

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we can't have that, So I have to get Congress

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to pass a massive three trillion dollars stimulus package, which

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worked in that the economy tank real fast and we

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had what was called a V shaped recovery. It came

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back very quickly. Demonstration comes in in twenty twenty one,

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and really with regard to the economy, they didn't have

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to do anything. We had enough stimulus. The unemployment rate

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was dropping, growth was picking up. We're on the right track.

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But the prior administration has social agenda, and in order

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to implement that social agenda they needed to spend a

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lot of money to justify it. The Biden administration said,

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we need another stimulus package, so they passed another nearly

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three trillion dollar package. At the time, I said, this

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is excessive. It's going to cause excess demand in the economy,

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and it's going to lead to inflation. Inflation started to

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go up all through twenty twenty one. At the end

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of twenty twenty one, to try to take some action

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to reduce some inflation, the government passed what they called

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an inflation reduction package. Now, anytime you're spending more money,

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you're not going to reduce inflation. But nonetheless they did

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that kept inflation high. At the same time very poor

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management at the Federal Reserve. They kept interest rates near

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zero all through twenty twenty one and halfway into twenty

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twenty two. Why, they said, the inflation, the unemployment rates

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coming down, we needed to come down faster, so they

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kept interest rates real low, creating excess demand. Well, you

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have excess demand from vast amounts of government spending, excess

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demand from monetary policy. The inflation rate got up to

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nine point one percent in June of twenty twenty two.

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At that time, the Federal Reserve finally woke up and said,

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we've got to get this inflation problem solved. We're going

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to jack interest rate rates way up real fast over

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the next ten to twelve months, which they did, and

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it brought the inflation rate down. Now, coming into twenty

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twenty five, the inflation rates two point nine percent. We

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like it at two percent or less, so we're on

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our way there. From nine and we were heading down,

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got down to beginning part of this year, down to

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two point four percent. But then the Iranian crisis hit.

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Now we can debate whether there was a good idea

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of bad idea to go in there an. If people

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say it was a war of choice, we shouldn't have

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done this. You cause all these problems for nothing. The

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Trump position is intelligence. We had said that even though

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we obliterated the nuclear program of Iran some months ago,

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they still have some nuclear material, and they admitted that

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to us they had enough material for ten I believe,

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nuclear warheads, and they were very close to being able

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to enrich to a point where that would happen. President

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Trump said, if that happened, they said, they're in a

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continental ballistic missiles don't go that far. We laid found

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out they yes, exactly, and they're getting close to the US.

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So the President said, I've got to stop this now.

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Whatever the price is, we're going to have to pay it.

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So he went in bombed Iran. Now, in my opinion,

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he should have finished a job early.

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You and me both yes.

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Instead, he said, I don't want to have any more

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people killed than I have to, and I don't want

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to see the country destroyed. So I'm going to give

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Iran a chance to negotiate this poor this decision. In

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my view, Iran never negotiates anything in good faith. President

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Obama gets that agreement with him, he looked to Obama

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is a pretty good thing. A few months later they

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broke it and started reaching uranium again. So the I

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believe the uranium.

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Course, Obama gave him all the money, the seed money

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to do that. On top of it.

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Oh yeah, by the way, absolutely, So where are we today,

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So this Iranian conflict has got to get over. Look,

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I'm a strong supporter of President Trump. I do not

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support the way he's handled this war. He told us

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in February when he attack, this will be over shortly.

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Then he told us shortly in May, in March, it'll

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be over shortly in April, and be over shortly. Here

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we are in August. He's telling us it will be

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over shortly, and he says, I'm going to give them

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one last chance to negotiate. You can't negotiate with these people.

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Don't string it out as long as as possible. Then

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they'll come up with something and they'll either break it

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or try to renegotiate it literally the next day. The

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reason negotiation won't work in the long run is if

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you're at war with a country and you're about to

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wipe out their population. They said, I better surrender before

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he killed everybody. Like World War Two, we dropped two

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atomic bombs. Japan said, look, you're gonna kill everybody here.

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I don't want that to happen, so I'll surrender. With Iran,

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they don't care if you kill their population. In fact,

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they kill their own population.

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Yeah. So I've already killed over fifty thousand gans.

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So if you're negotiating with somebody who really doesn't care

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about the population, all they're going to do is try

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to string this out as long as possible and just

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hang on. I think personally, President Trump is wasting time

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trying to negotiate with this people. These people were into August.

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If it goes much further, you're going to kill the midterms.

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The Republicans, even though it's an off year for the president.

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The Republicans should do well here the Democrats. The Democrats

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are talking about socialism and that drives everybody with someone

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talking about communism, So the Republicans should do well. But

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if the inflation rate is high and this thing is

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not over, people are going to say, why know what

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the Democrats are saying, but it's got to be better

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than this, So I'm going to vote vote for the Democrat.

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So Trump's got to get this over with as soon

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as possible. Once he does, oil prices will fall under

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seventy hours of varrol, maybe close to sixty. Gasoline will

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go under three dollars a gallon, maybe as well as

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to fifty. Energy prices in general will fall. That will

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bring the inflation rate down rapidly, and we'll hit that

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two percent target probably early part of next year.

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Well, we're talking with doctor Michael Butler, Public cal State Analyst,

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Economics expert, Professor Finance at Stockton University in New Jersey. Yeah,

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the Republicans right now kind of remind me of what

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my old mentor used to say is sometimes you have

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to be thankful for the competition. The Democrats are doing

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everything they can and a time when they should be

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gaining seats to really make it difficult on themselves to

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try to rebrand themselves. I mean, this is like a

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cracker barrel, you know, doing what they did, or even

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bud light, you know, leave it to these socialists who

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come in and thing that they have a better idea.

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And so now they've taken the party and they're going

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really woke with a party. And we'll see, you know,

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if in fact this will play out like many of

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us are predicting that it's going to play out. But

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the Republicans have got to really stay focused and get serious,

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as you say, and we've been you know, you and

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I we've been talking about this all along. And I said,

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there's a lack of sense of urgency I'm perceiving in

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the Republican Party right exactly.

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And there should be a sense of urgency. This inflation

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problem has got to be fixed before the end of

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this month. That means the Iranian conflict has got to

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get over once that happens and energy oil prices fall

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and gas prices fall all through September and October, people

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will be in a good mood. Hey, the Republicans are

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doing the right thing. They stop it around from getting

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a nuclear weapon, and inflation is coming down. Gas is

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cheap again. Maybe we should continue to keep them in power.

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If they don't do that, we're going to lose power.

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And if Democrats get control of either House of Congress,

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everything's going to come to a standstill. They'll try to

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impeach President Trump. They'll fight them every step of the way.

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So it's crucial we get the Soarnanian conflict over very quickly.

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Yeah, when was the last time a Democrat did anything to,

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you know, grow the prosperity on behalf of the American people.

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Their ethos is growing government, not you know not, you

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know not capitalism. So help me square this up here, Michael,

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because I'm a bit confused. All Right, we have a

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record high stock market, a record high after tax family incomes,

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the lowest crime rates in fifty years, the lowest number

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of Americans laid off from their jobs in half a century,

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the biggest investment boom in forty years, and a Democratic

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party floating around in outer space on the economy, and

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yet voters prefer these crazy people.

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The media says this whole inflation problem is a result

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of Trump going into a war war he didn't have

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to go into. So if you're feeling the price at

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the pump and you're feeling the price of higher growth rates,

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it's all President Trump's fall. And the public says, well,

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maybe that's right, Maybe I better not go for a

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Republican Maybe I don't prove of the way President Trump

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is doing things. If you look at all of the

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things you said, the economy is doing very well. Growth

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is not quite where we wanted it, mostly because it's

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Iran conflict. Inflation is not where we want it because

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of the Iran conflict. So we can get this over

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and get back on track. People will see that the

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Trump administration policies work just like they did in the

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first time, exactly.

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If you want to know what somebody's going to do,

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look what they've done. Look at what this president did

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in his first term, what he did in the second.

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And of course now with the reveal of the diaries

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from doctor Fauci, it is so aggravating, you know what

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this man single handedly did to our economy and our culture.

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Michael horrible, horrible, and according to his diaries, he was

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enjoying this, enjoying being the spotlight and joining He said,

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he was the most well known person in the world,

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and he was giving advice that was wrong. It was

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just plain wrong. And if anybody disputed it, remember Scott Atlas,

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a well known professor from Stanford, I think, very knowledgeable,

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and he had a different view, and he was ostracized.

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This guy's a kookie, doesn't know what he's saying. Listen

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to the science. And Fauci said, I'm the only one

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that knows the science. And what he did was destroyed

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the country. There are young people it may take them

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years ever to get over this exactly. They didn't weren't

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in school, they didn't have any social contact, and now

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a lot of them are kind of going into a shell.

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This was a horrible thing that Fauci did, and he

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didn't have enough guts to answer some of the questions

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that the Senate said. He really couldn't because I pardoned

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him for all the bad things he did for the

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last fifteen years, I think right. So if he went

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in and he could admit he did something wrong and

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he wouldn't suffer into consequences. But then he has to

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admit he wanted the whole time, and you know he

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certainly doesn't want that. And if they asked the question

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and he didn't tell the truth, then he could be

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held for perjury. So the only thing left for him

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to do is not say anything. And that's what a

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lawyers told him to do. Don't say a word, even

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if they have to ask you what color your tie is?

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Tell me. If you can't answer that, that's incriminate. You

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take the fifth of.

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All that set aside, though, Michael is the American people

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are saying, look at my loved one died. I couldn't

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even say goodbye to them. A million America, seven million

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around the world died because of this ruse and what

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was done by this mad scientist. And if there is

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no accountability on this, people are going to be ticked.

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And you may, you know, you may get away with it.

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You may be walking around like the lowest learners and

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the Hillary Clinton's of the world and the people that

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have ripped off the American people. But you know, the

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American people aren't that stupid. You know, there might be

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some people that still want to walk down that yellow

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brick road, you know, like those that want to believe

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that Barack Obama is the greatest president that ever happened.

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And it's like, look at you can't. You don't consider

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the facts. You don't look at what this man did

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for health care. For example, where we are, they said

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it was going to be such a beautiful thing. You're

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going to keep your doctor, it's going to be cheaper.

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It's just the opposite, and it's on life support being

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paid for by the taxpayer. When we were told that

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it was going to be you know the great things

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in slice does.

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Yeah, that the whole Affordable Care Act was a big lie.

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And then many of the people in Congress that voted

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for it didn't even read it before they voted for it.

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Remember Pelosi said, you have to vote for it before

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you can find out what what's in it.

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Did you ever try reading it, Michael?

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It's too complicated.

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I got, I got, I got about five pages into

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it and my brain was bruising. It didn't make sense whatsoever.

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And if you remember the architect of Obamacare, he had

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the arrogance to go on national television in a news

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program and said he admitted that they purposely confused.

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It exactly and it didn't do nearly what it says.

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Many people lost the doctor, that they was out a

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network or something that they've known for years. He told

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his premiums will go down by a little over two

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thousand year. They've skyrocketed since then. He told this, the

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system would be more efficient. It is so inefficient now

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that they're doing things and spending money where they don't

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they don't have to spend money. You know, Trump fixed

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this in his first term. He came up with something.

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The House passed it. In the Senate it was I

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think fifty no's to forty nine yes, says John McCain

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had some surgery. He came back. Had he voted yes,

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he had a fifty to fifty tigh Pence, vice president,

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would have broken it, and it was through. He walked in.

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He voted no, come down. Yeah, yeah, vote that comes down.

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I don't know why it would have been fixed. Now

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it's so messed up. The premiums are going up so

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much that the Democrats are saying, look, all these premiums

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are going up, they're kicking all these people off. We're

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going to have to use more taxpayer money. And President

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Trump said, you can't keep throwing money at all these

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things and having to be inefficient doing that. With education,

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we're trying to stop that too. We really need to

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fix this rather than they'll just come up with some

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kind of a patch in the fall, you know, so

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that it gets some people over the hump here. But

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this needs to be fixed. And Trump had an idea,

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it's got to come up with another one. Let's get

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it through.

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Well, you look at you know, Medicare and Medicaid all

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the fraud alone. Michael, you're talking almost two hundred billion

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dollars in fraud in those particular categories. Okay, and that's

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just that's just a cursory overview, all right. And they

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haven't really you know, done an audit the way they should,

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but you know, at least two hundred billion dollars in fraud,

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and the American people are saying, hey, before we you know,

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do anything else, can we kind of like fix the

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problem maybe exactly exactly.

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And some of this fraud, some of by Americans, many

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are by immigrants who came into this country and just

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rip the system and there was no oversight. And you're right,

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it's turning into hundreds of billions of dollars, and that's

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money that was ripped off. We could have been going

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to people who actually needed it. So we have of

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these problems today with the premiums too high and somebody

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can't get daycare. That all that, just get rid of

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the waste, fraud and abuse and will have the first

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step in solving this problem.

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Well, we got to leave it there for now. Doctor

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Michael Butler, the public policy analyst, economics expert, Professor of

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Finance at Stockton University in New Jersey. Michael is always

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appreciate the time. Thank you, my friend.

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Take care, always my pleasure.

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Welcome back, Bill Martinez here along with Deroy Murdocci, Manhattan

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based Fox News contributor. Hey Deroy, how are we doing.

500
00:28:09.599 --> 00:28:10.759
I'm just great, Bill, How are you?

501
00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:11.440
Oh?

502
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:12.440
I'm confused.

503
00:28:13.119 --> 00:28:16.359
Oh I don't.

504
00:28:16.160 --> 00:28:21.000
Understand this, Deroy. The socialists, how they've come into town

505
00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:27.119
here and like like as if they're the ones to

506
00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:31.319
deliver us out of the problems that they have created.

507
00:28:31.759 --> 00:28:34.079
I mean, you think of the thirty nine trillion dollars

508
00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:35.799
in debt that we're in just as a big you know,

509
00:28:35.880 --> 00:28:36.799
just the top number there.

510
00:28:36.920 --> 00:28:37.880
Let's talk about right.

511
00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:42.880
Yeah, right, how much is you know, is socialism behind

512
00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:49.559
that of Obamacare? What they did with social Security? I mean,

513
00:28:50.599 --> 00:28:53.799
we are in a sense, you know, we want to

514
00:28:53.799 --> 00:28:57.039
act like we're a democratic republic. I think we gave

515
00:28:57.079 --> 00:29:01.319
that up many decades ago, and now it's like, okay,

516
00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:06.039
like Katie bar the door. You know, everybody's falling out

517
00:29:06.039 --> 00:29:08.960
of the closet. It's like his closet. Remember that when

518
00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:11.880
you're growing out. There's all out of the closet now

519
00:29:12.119 --> 00:29:14.559
and they're just saying, hey, here it is, and it's

520
00:29:14.599 --> 00:29:17.680
like like as if it's some kind of new, wonderful thing.

521
00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:21.960
But when you look at the history of socialism, yeah,

522
00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:25.519
it's all patty cakes until it's not. And when it's not,

523
00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:30.079
then your guns are taken away. You're so vulnerable and

524
00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:33.400
they just come in and start mowing people down. I mean,

525
00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:35.720
in the last century alone, what do we have like

526
00:29:35.759 --> 00:29:40.079
a hundred million victims, uh, to all the isms, the

527
00:29:40.119 --> 00:29:44.279
socialism and communism, fascism, you know, something like that number.

528
00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:47.400
I mean, and America goes, oh man, I can't wait

529
00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:48.440
to bring that into town.

530
00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:51.519
Yeah please bring your up, Yes, yes, please, is the response.

531
00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:53.839
I think what you're you're making a point I've been making,

532
00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:57.480
which is that, uh, these socialists who popped up, you know,

533
00:29:57.519 --> 00:30:01.000
this Chevalier woman in New York and i' madami and

534
00:30:01.119 --> 00:30:04.720
AOC and now this guy Ilsaid who won the primary

535
00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:09.000
for the Democrat primary in Michigan. As you say this

536
00:30:09.079 --> 00:30:12.240
is something new, the Sara and narrative we hear is,

537
00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:14.759
oh my god, these these far left Democrats are defeating

538
00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:17.799
these moderate centrist Democrats and oh, it's just so awful.

539
00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:19.759
You look at the vote records for the people who've

540
00:30:19.799 --> 00:30:23.960
been defeated by the DSA pick candidates and like the

541
00:30:24.079 --> 00:30:26.599
LSA who beat this one named Haley Stevens in Michigan.

542
00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:29.160
I took a look at her American Conservative Union rating.

543
00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:33.240
Zero's most liberal, one hundred is most conservative. So she's

544
00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:36.119
a centrist. She ought to be somewhere between thirty and sixty.

545
00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:38.240
Let's say, give her a take, or between forty and sixty,

546
00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:40.279
kind of in the middle thirty if you will. Her

547
00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:44.559
AC rating is six. Okay. Here in New York, this

548
00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:49.559
woman named Chevalier defeated Andrew Espayatt, who is the head

549
00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:54.799
of the Hispanic Caucus and Hispanic Congressional Caucus. His AC

550
00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:58.519
rating was two point zero. Okay, so it's not like

551
00:30:58.599 --> 00:31:01.640
these are centrists middle of the row. Modern reasonable democrats

552
00:31:01.720 --> 00:31:04.039
are being wiped up by these crazy you know, uh

553
00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:07.400
foamate the mouth socialists. These are far left socialists being

554
00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:10.519
beaten by far far left socialists, or is that the other.

555
00:31:10.519 --> 00:31:12.559
Day they're in the lunatic fringe range.

556
00:31:13.480 --> 00:31:16.319
The super left is being defeated by the super duper left.

557
00:31:16.400 --> 00:31:19.039
So uh, you know, these the people who are being

558
00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:21.480
defeated brought us, you know, all the way about third base,

559
00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:23.319
and these people coming in are trying to you know,

560
00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:25.319
trying to wave the runner all the way home across

561
00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:27.839
home plate. So you know, we've got a lot of

562
00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:29.920
socialism for these other people in the past, and now

563
00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:31.759
they want to put full pedal of metal and go

564
00:31:31.880 --> 00:31:33.640
fully communists. That's what's going on here.

565
00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:38.160
Well and uh and of course I guess the thing

566
00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:39.960
that you can calm down a little bit at least

567
00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:43.039
gives me a little bit of repose, is that, yes, okay,

568
00:31:43.079 --> 00:31:46.799
this these are democrat enclaves and and they're you know,

569
00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:50.160
cleaning up their own mess, so to speak. But it's

570
00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:54.119
interesting because what it's done to you know, those uh,

571
00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:58.440
I guess you might say moderate Democrats like Joe Mansion.

572
00:31:58.920 --> 00:32:02.000
You even got Carville Carvell. You know, he he's out

573
00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:05.160
of bed now, he's not even he's so incensed that

574
00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:07.839
he I think he fell out of bed and h

575
00:32:08.519 --> 00:32:10.759
you know, and he's just going, oh, this is this

576
00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:14.920
is crazy. I mean, who could could you ever imagine

577
00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:19.519
Carville h you know, the poster child for insanity calling

578
00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:20.960
his own party crazy.

579
00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:23.279
Yeah, well he goes to show how, you know, how

580
00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:25.519
far along on the crazy train they've gone. You know,

581
00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:28.039
this was when when James Carvill was the head political

582
00:32:28.839 --> 00:32:31.880
operative for Bill Clinton. You know, this is the period

583
00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:36.079
when the concept or the slogan of Bill Clinton was

584
00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:40.359
the era of big government is over. He signed welfare form,

585
00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:43.000
he signed a capital gains tax cut. He said that

586
00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:47.640
abortion should be safe, legal, and rare. Any Democratic got

587
00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:49.279
up and said that any of those things today would

588
00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:52.160
probably be thrown off the subway tracks, run over by

589
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:55.400
by the four or five train here in Manhattan.

590
00:32:55.319 --> 00:32:58.119
Or or or they would have gone by a grassy knoll.

591
00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:02.400
Yeah, not survived. Aggress You know something of the kind.

592
00:33:03.079 --> 00:33:05.759
You know, you look at the nineteen nineties or even

593
00:33:05.799 --> 00:33:09.160
like early two thousands platform of the Democrat Party, and

594
00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:10.759
I think that would be I think the folks now

595
00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:13.839
describe that as fascist. Where we're I mean, you can

596
00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:16.799
go back to some speeches where you had I certainly

597
00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:20.839
Bill Clinton, Chuck Schumer. I think even Nancy Pelosi and

598
00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:25.000
Harry Reid, the former Democrats Senate Democrat leader using the

599
00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:28.160
term illegal alien. Well, you say illegal alien now and

600
00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:29.880
you might as well become like a n bomb. Oh

601
00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:33.400
my god, that's a you're canceled. So the Democrat Democrat

602
00:33:33.400 --> 00:33:36.519
Party has just hurtled so much further left from what

603
00:33:36.599 --> 00:33:40.400
it was even ten fifteen years ago, it's almost unrecognizable,

604
00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:43.279
Whereas I think the Republican Party under Trump is more

605
00:33:43.400 --> 00:33:46.880
or less it's always been. It's for low taxes, for

606
00:33:47.079 --> 00:33:51.119
fiscal restraint, for deregulation. I think the trade pictures probably

607
00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:53.000
changed some from where it was, you know, back in

608
00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:56.640
the Reagan or maybe even Baby Bush days, but most

609
00:33:56.640 --> 00:33:58.839
of the conservative agenda's about where it's been all along.

610
00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:01.640
I think this style in the language may have changed some.

611
00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:04.160
You look at the substance of Democrat Party agenda, and

612
00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:06.960
it's so much further left than it was even you know,

613
00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:08.719
a decade dec and a half, decade and a half ago.

614
00:34:09.320 --> 00:34:13.039
Well, what should happen, Deroy, is that you're exactly right.

615
00:34:13.079 --> 00:34:17.000
The republic the Republican Party or Conservatives have been consistent

616
00:34:17.079 --> 00:34:20.119
with their brand. And what the Democrats are doing now

617
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:24.360
is they've gone bud light, They've gone you know, cracker

618
00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:28.360
barrel in destroying their brand.

619
00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:29.000
That they have.

620
00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:33.960
And so here you've got chaos and brain damage that's

621
00:34:33.960 --> 00:34:36.559
going on within the party. And I know a lot

622
00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:38.920
of Democrats are scratching their head and they're going, okay, well,

623
00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:42.360
all right, they it's a primary, but the true test

624
00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:45.079
is going to be in the general election. Can they

625
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:50.159
win some seats in the general election and you know,

626
00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:52.760
be able to capitalize on some of this momentum that

627
00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:53.679
they're claiming they have.

628
00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:57.760
Well, you know, the polls show that Democrats are now

629
00:34:57.840 --> 00:34:59.920
I think fifty two percent of Democrats are in favor

630
00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:02.800
of socialism. I think somewhere in the forty five is

631
00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:05.480
ranger in favor of capitalism. So maybe Democrats are more

632
00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:10.440
socialists than capitalists, but independence reject socialism. I think seventy

633
00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:13.880
percent reject socialism. Among Republicans, I think ninety one percent

634
00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:16.639
favor capitalism over socialism. I'm not sure those nine percent

635
00:35:16.679 --> 00:35:20.320
socialist Republicans are I'd probably name a couple of them perhaps,

636
00:35:20.519 --> 00:35:23.159
But I think what's the trouble that the Democrats going

637
00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:25.599
to face in November is they may be to be

638
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:27.199
able to turn out a bunch of their Democrats who

639
00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:29.760
favor this stuff, but independence don't like it. Republicans are

640
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:32.239
certainly not going to support them. I think the only

641
00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:36.159
the biggest compounding factor or confounding factor potentially is if

642
00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:39.039
the economy is in bad shape, if gas prices are

643
00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:40.800
still high. I think a lot of that depends on

644
00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:42.760
the Iran war and if it gets settled or calm down,

645
00:35:42.800 --> 00:35:45.360
or if this thing roars on. So that's a big

646
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:47.960
variable that we can't determine yet. But you know, things

647
00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:50.119
are normal and calm down, the economy stays on track,

648
00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:54.519
and the prices become inflation cools down a bit. I

649
00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:56.079
think it's gonna be very hard for the Democrats to

650
00:35:56.119 --> 00:35:59.360
get past all these crazy people. They're wacky ideas, and

651
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:02.599
you know, this guy Elseia just said the other day

652
00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:05.960
he wants illegal aliens to have driver's licenses. You know,

653
00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:07.559
you don't belong to this country. And he said the

654
00:36:07.639 --> 00:36:09.599
quote was something like, well, you know, they deserve to

655
00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:12.360
get all the benefits they can or words to that effect. No,

656
00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:15.119
they deserve the benefit they deserve. I'm for this is

657
00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:17.079
a free ride of the border and they're told, okay,

658
00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:21.280
start swimming south. That's that's as much public benefit I

659
00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:22.960
want to see these people get after they've broken into

660
00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:26.840
our countries without papers up, permission and without anybody, anybody

661
00:36:26.920 --> 00:36:28.559
vetting them or seeing who they are, what they want,

662
00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:30.360
where they're going. So they have the right to go

663
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:32.559
right to go home. And that's it. And yet el

664
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:34.760
say it is saying, oh, you get a driver's license

665
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:37.079
as many benefits as we can cram down your grow.

666
00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:39.719
Yeah, and we'll put you back behind the wheel of

667
00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:40.679
a commercial truck.

668
00:36:41.039 --> 00:36:42.679
Oh even more so. Yeah. I mean you're not just

669
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:44.719
driving a hot a civic to work, you're driving an

670
00:36:44.719 --> 00:36:46.119
eighteen wheeler. Because what could go wrong?

671
00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:48.400
You know how many cush you don't and you don't

672
00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:51.159
know the English language, Like that's a problem, Yeah, don't

673
00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:51.880
worry about it.

674
00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:53.599
You know you can't read the sign that says you

675
00:36:53.639 --> 00:36:58.719
know a bridge broken or traffic jam ahead or you know,

676
00:36:59.239 --> 00:37:02.840
slippery the turn of slippery one wet. If you can't

677
00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:05.480
read that again, what could go wrong? How many crashes

678
00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:08.400
have we seen with these illegal aliens who got commercial

679
00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:12.239
driver's licenses, many from California are driving eighteen wheel rigs

680
00:37:12.239 --> 00:37:14.639
that can't read the signs and they plow into people.

681
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:16.480
And I think at this point we must be somewhere

682
00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:19.760
around ten twelve fifteen people killed, murdered, I mean dead.

683
00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:22.400
The consequence of these people who don't know what they're doing,

684
00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:24.719
dead bodies. It's not funny, it's like cute.

685
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:28.239
Well, and that's the problem with all this illegal immigration.

686
00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:30.440
You put it in one big bucket. And what they

687
00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:34.159
don't want to talk about is how many innocents, innocent

688
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:39.920
American citizens have died at the hands of these illegal immigrants.

689
00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:41.599
They don't want to talk about it.

690
00:37:41.880 --> 00:37:45.119
Absolutely no, they don't. I mentioned that the drivers of

691
00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:48.639
the commercial driver's licenses and eighteen wheel trucks. You've got

692
00:37:48.719 --> 00:37:51.000
lots of people have been killed by drunk drivers. It

693
00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:53.280
seems to be a real problem. You have other people

694
00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:54.440
who are not drunk, but they don't know if they're

695
00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:56.559
doing the crashing of people in regular cars and kill them.

696
00:37:56.800 --> 00:37:58.679
Then you've got the people who've been raped and killed.

697
00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:03.000
You've got murder victims. You've got people or you innocent accidents,

698
00:38:03.000 --> 00:38:04.840
but people die. And then you've got people who are

699
00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:06.800
malicious who go out and find people and rape them

700
00:38:06.840 --> 00:38:11.079
and kill them. And that guy in San Francisco who

701
00:38:11.119 --> 00:38:13.159
decided to be a great idea to get a gun

702
00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:15.800
in his mind go and shoot some seals. Well, in fact,

703
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:17.559
you shot a young lady right in her in forever

704
00:38:17.679 --> 00:38:19.400
father who held his little daughter.

705
00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:22.360
Yeah, that's that's like the Kate Stanley thing all over

706
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:23.000
against island.

707
00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:27.960
You remember yet that palette of pavers collecting dust, the

708
00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:31.599
beginnings of a garden, those stray fence posts. Are you

709
00:38:31.679 --> 00:38:34.920
haunted by half finished projects on your land? John Deere

710
00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:38.719
is here to say not anymore. Our compact tractors allow

711
00:38:38.760 --> 00:38:41.159
you to swap implements easily, and they're backed by the

712
00:38:41.239 --> 00:38:44.840
nation's largest dealer network. You always had the right idea,

713
00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:48.280
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We're talking with that Deroy Murdoch.

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He's a Atton based Fox News contributor. Yeah, I mean,

783
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how many stories and heartbreaking stories do you want to

784
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hear from these families and you know, it's just like,

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you know, America is too nice, Roy too nice. That's

786
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the problem.

787
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Wait, two know, and a lot of these people have

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been convictive of crimes. They said, well, you know you're convicted,

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but you know, run free until you go to jail.

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We'll come back in you know, six months when we'll

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lock you up. And of course they're run free and

792
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do it again and again and again. I mean, so

793
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horrifying to see so many of these cases where these

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guys actually have been in because of all the sanctuary

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city stuff that let them go and guess what, they

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go and do the same crime again and rape, injure,

797
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rape or kill more people. It's just so maddening and

798
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so so frustrating, and.

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Like, who was that guy they let out and within

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hours he's killing people. He kills somebody.

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You let him out. I think in like two hours

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he went killed somebody else. And no in the last

803
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couldn't even wait till the day after the day he

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got out. A couple hours after he was out, he

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was back to work killing people. That was about two

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week or two ago.

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Unbelievable. Yeah, I mean, look at Uh, if this country's

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going to get back on track, it's going to require

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a movement, a real movement, and the silent majority. And

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these these people, I say, these people you know who

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think like us, that that are fed up with this injustice,

812
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with you know, fed up with all this chaos that's

813
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going on. And uh, you know, we got to take

814
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a stand against what is really a clear choice. Now

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you either are for liberty or you're going to or

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you're going to be a socialist. And that's what it

817
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comes down to. And uh, I don't I don't see

818
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this playing in the in the heart of America. But

819
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the mainstream media is doing everything they can to fan

820
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the flames and keep this alive. And uh, and to me,

821
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it's like, at least report on it fairly.

822
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Well, I think you're asking way too much, Bill, I mean,

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I know, I'm sorry the news media to tell us

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that what's happening. Give us the news. I mean, that's

825
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really that's a that's a tall order. It would be

826
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nice if they actually gave us the news and said,

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all right, you know, we gave you the facts, we

828
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give you the figures. You guys decide if you like

829
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or don't dislike what you're seeing. That's how it used

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to be. But now, of course they've got their their thumbs,

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if not their hands or arms, maybe their legs on

832
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the scales, and so we don't get the full news.

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I mean, the easiest way to the easiest path to

834
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media bias is just don't report things. I mean, you

835
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can sit there and spend a lot of all day

836
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doing a twisted story that twists the truth much easier,

837
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just don't write the story, take a long lunch and

838
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go home. And a lot of times was time a

839
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slanted story. Just don't report it, and them people look

840
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at don't get that information, which is really quite irritating.

841
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But I do think in November, in a lot of

842
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these races, you're gonna have a very clear choice. You're

843
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gonna have a pro freedom candidates wants smaller government, let

844
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people keep more of their money, let them make more

845
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decisions as to how they want to live their lives.

846
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On the other side, you're going to have these democrats,

847
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socialist or socialist democrats who want to take more of

848
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your money, razor taxes, spend your money on your behalf,

849
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and tell you what to do from when you wake

850
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up in the morning she crawl back into bed, and

851
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we'll have a very first clear choice. You know, it

852
00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:29.760
won't be shades of gray. I think it's going to

853
00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:32.800
be very clear, black and white contrast, and people can decide,

854
00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:38.239
and hopefully they'll they'll pick the path of freedom and prosperity,

855
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not the patent, not the road to serf them. But

856
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we'll see in a few months.

857
00:45:41.880 --> 00:45:43.480
Well, you bring up a good point, and this is

858
00:45:43.519 --> 00:45:46.880
one thing I can appreciate in a strange sort of way,

859
00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:50.880
these Democratic Socialists. They're just telling you like it is.

860
00:45:51.360 --> 00:45:53.840
I mean, like you know you had the one gal

861
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she was on with, well she was you know, one

862
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of the heads of the DSA party, right, and she's

863
00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:02.440
with Shannon. Shannon Brings is asking right down the line, yes,

864
00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:05.039
no question, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we want to get

865
00:46:05.079 --> 00:46:07.119
rid of the police. Oh yeah, get rid of the Senate.

866
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:10.320
I mean it wasn't no, it wasn't any hesitation, no

867
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strand or nothing. I mean if it had been Carble,

868
00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:17.159
I mean you'd sit there and you go, Okay, I

869
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in ten minutes of him, and I need therapy because

870
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I don't know what's up or what's down anymore.

871
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When he's always sure. I'll give you a great example.

872
00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:27.000
That's Gavin Newsom. I mean, listen to any speech by

873
00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:29.320
Gavin Newsom and then try to tell me what he said.

874
00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:32.599
And you know it's gibberish, it doesn't make sense, it's circular.

875
00:46:33.159 --> 00:46:35.480
And I will give credit to people like AOC and

876
00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:38.639
Bernie Sanders, these these far left crazies. They'll tell you

877
00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:40.079
which what they want to do when they're very open

878
00:46:40.119 --> 00:46:42.360
about it. Here in New York, when mon Dommy got elected,

879
00:46:42.360 --> 00:46:44.039
I wrote a piece. I said, look, I don't like

880
00:46:44.079 --> 00:46:45.800
his platform, I don't like what he ran on, but

881
00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:47.880
I give him full credit. I said, he told New

882
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Yorkers what he was going to do. He said, over

883
00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:51.079
and over, he said at point where all of us

884
00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:53.519
could recite as agenda to ourselves after a couple of

885
00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:55.280
weeks of hearing it, and it was all out there.

886
00:46:55.320 --> 00:46:57.159
None of it was hid, and it wasn't you know,

887
00:46:57.280 --> 00:46:59.840
tuck behind, tucked in little crevices anywhere, is all right

888
00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:02.320
in the open. And the people voted and they got it.

889
00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:04.079
And now, like they say, he's going to give it,

890
00:47:04.280 --> 00:47:05.719
give it to us good and heart, and we're getting

891
00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:08.079
it good and hard now. But can say, oh, my god,

892
00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:09.840
I'm surprised. Where did that come from? It was all

893
00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:13.159
right during the campaign, So I give these DSA people

894
00:47:13.360 --> 00:47:14.920
credit for at least being honest about what they believe.

895
00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:19.039
Yeah, it's not like Virginia or New Jersey, right where

896
00:47:19.079 --> 00:47:22.480
the slide of hand was such. Anyway, Hey, I want

897
00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:25.760
to talk about your latest article, the Justice Fund. What's

898
00:47:25.800 --> 00:47:26.239
going on?

899
00:47:27.519 --> 00:47:31.280
Well, we had this Justice Fund which President Trump proposed

900
00:47:31.320 --> 00:47:34.079
one point seven to seven six billion dollars that would

901
00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:38.639
be used to compensate the victims of government weaponization. And

902
00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:43.880
Tom Tillis so called republic from North Carolina and Rhino

903
00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:46.840
John Corny of Texas screening the album, said, oh my god.

904
00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:49.559
This they basically absorbed the left talking points, which is

905
00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:52.320
that this would would allow Trump to give big payoffs

906
00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:55.159
to his supporters and also give money to the January

907
00:47:55.199 --> 00:47:58.239
sixth people who perpetrated that attack on the Capitol.

908
00:47:59.119 --> 00:48:02.159
This fund, and fact, this wasn't money that was coming

909
00:48:02.199 --> 00:48:05.719
out of the treasury. This was based on a lawsuit

910
00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:08.760
that Trump won, and he put the money up and

911
00:48:08.760 --> 00:48:10.559
he's saying, Okay, we're going to heal some of these

912
00:48:10.599 --> 00:48:13.360
people that have been the effect of the law. Fair

913
00:48:13.639 --> 00:48:18.559
and subjected that they were subjected by during the Biden administration, Right.

914
00:48:18.920 --> 00:48:22.360
That's right. Yeah, people who are victims of primarily the

915
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Russia hoax, other types of victimization, people who suffered under

916
00:48:28.599 --> 00:48:32.639
the weaponization of the Justice Department, and also to some

917
00:48:32.679 --> 00:48:36.599
degree HHS. I suppose maybe the irs during COVID when

918
00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:39.079
they came out and said, you know, the vaccine has

919
00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:41.480
some problems, masks may not be smart for little kids,

920
00:48:41.480 --> 00:48:44.159
et cetera. And these people got canceled. They were told

921
00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:47.719
by FBI. Ran around Silicon Valley saying, deep platform these

922
00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:50.280
people from Facebook. Make sure they don't make any money

923
00:48:50.440 --> 00:48:52.719
on ex et cetera, et cetera. And Trump said, look,

924
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these people need to be compensated for their abuse by

925
00:48:55.599 --> 00:48:58.639
the federal government. And Cornyn and Tillis, as I say,

926
00:48:58.719 --> 00:49:01.239
just absorbed the less talking points, screamed and yelled and said,

927
00:49:01.239 --> 00:49:04.519
you know, until Trump kills this fund, we're not going

928
00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:07.840
to vote for to let Todd Blanche Attorney General nominique

929
00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:11.360
get out of the Justice Justice Judiciary Committee. And so

930
00:49:11.519 --> 00:49:13.559
finally Todd Blanche sent them a letter and said, okay,

931
00:49:13.599 --> 00:49:17.280
the Justice Fund is dead, but there is fortunately something

932
00:49:17.320 --> 00:49:19.639
called the Judgment Fund. The Judgment fund has been there

933
00:49:19.679 --> 00:49:22.639
since the days of Eisenhower, and it's exactly for this

934
00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:27.199
purpose to compisate people who suffered because of either neglect

935
00:49:27.519 --> 00:49:30.159
or abuse or whatever kind of ill treatment by the

936
00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:32.719
federal government. And there are people I list seven of

937
00:49:32.760 --> 00:49:37.320
this article, people who really suffered very badly. Yeah, Russiagate situation.

938
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I was a woman who's still alive named Loua Abershaw.

939
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Her husband Lee Averershov was an associate of Paul Maniford,

940
00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:48.039
the former campaign manager to Trump. He saw a story

941
00:49:48.039 --> 00:49:49.559
about the Russiagate thing and he said, I need to

942
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get a lawyer, and he started paying his legal bills.

943
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He had to go get a second job driving doing

944
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pizza deliveries. He was under so much stress that he

945
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ended up getting sick, got cancer, and so Luba Evershav

946
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is now a widow and she blames her husband's death

947
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on basically disease, which was triggered by all the stress

948
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he felt. And he was dead by age sixty one,

949
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if you can believe that with massive legal bills and

950
00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:16.119
that sort of thing. Second case is Michael Caputo, a

951
00:50:16.159 --> 00:50:18.599
friend of mine I've known since we were in college,

952
00:50:18.920 --> 00:50:21.519
and he had attorney's fees of about five hundred and

953
00:50:21.519 --> 00:50:23.480
eighty thousand dollars he had to pay just for going

954
00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:27.960
before the House and Senate Investment Intelligence committees, just testifying

955
00:50:28.159 --> 00:50:31.760
as a witness. He also had clients from his public

956
00:50:31.800 --> 00:50:35.519
affairs agency who saw the controversy. They canceled their contracts.

957
00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:37.480
He figures that this whole mess has cost him something

958
00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:40.760
like two point five million dollars in revenue since twenty seventeen.

959
00:50:41.519 --> 00:50:43.000
You know the story of Michael Flynn.

960
00:50:43.039 --> 00:50:45.559
And he's he's lucky he still has his law license.

961
00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:45.880
Right.

962
00:50:46.360 --> 00:50:48.679
No, he's not attorney. He wasn't a journey He was

963
00:50:48.679 --> 00:50:51.559
not an attorney. He public affairs guy. So he's back

964
00:50:51.599 --> 00:50:53.679
to that business, but lost a lot of money along

965
00:50:53.679 --> 00:50:56.280
the way. We saw Michael Flynn get wrapped up in

966
00:50:56.280 --> 00:50:59.920
this whole mess. Former NSC advisor under President Trump five

967
00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:02.440
million dollars in fees. He had to sell his house

968
00:51:03.320 --> 00:51:06.039
in order to pay his legal bills. We've got other

969
00:51:06.039 --> 00:51:08.960
people who've gotten at his sell homes. Paul Maniford got

970
00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:13.440
wrapped up in all this. His expenses are massive, about

971
00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:17.320
twenty five twenty six thousand dollars in real estate and restitution.

972
00:51:17.440 --> 00:51:19.559
He spent a couple of years, almost two years in

973
00:51:19.639 --> 00:51:24.440
federal prison in solitary confinement. And the thing about all

974
00:51:24.480 --> 00:51:26.079
these cases, and there about three or four others in

975
00:51:26.159 --> 00:51:30.119
story which you can read. It's American Spectator story, these

976
00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:32.039
people did nothing wrong. It would be one thing if

977
00:51:32.440 --> 00:51:34.239
you know, these people said hey, I'm going to have

978
00:51:34.960 --> 00:51:37.000
lunch at their Russian ambassador and they said something that

979
00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:40.119
they shouldn't or you know, inadvertently leaked something that shouldn't have,

980
00:51:40.280 --> 00:51:42.599
or gave him some information they thought was kosher but

981
00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:44.840
actually was sensitive classified. Then he gets, all right, you

982
00:51:44.840 --> 00:51:47.800
shouldn't have done that, you know, shame on you. But

983
00:51:47.880 --> 00:51:50.480
these people did nothing wrong. We determined from the Senate

984
00:51:50.800 --> 00:51:54.880
Intelligence Committee, House Intelligence Committee, the FBI, and the Robert

985
00:51:54.920 --> 00:51:58.440
Mueller Probe Special Council Robert Muller's investigation in a Russiagate

986
00:51:58.639 --> 00:52:02.519
that there were no Americans, Americans whatsoever, helped Russia hack

987
00:52:02.599 --> 00:52:06.079
the twenty sixteen election. Now, they attempted to influence the election,

988
00:52:06.679 --> 00:52:09.199
but no American helped them do that. Not Donald J. Trump,

989
00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:12.000
none of his campaign staff, none of his supporters. Four

990
00:52:12.039 --> 00:52:15.760
different probes which were started by very hostile people really

991
00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:17.840
wanted nail Trump they looked and said, Nope, we can't

992
00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:20.199
find any evidence the Trump or any other American did

993
00:52:20.239 --> 00:52:23.159
anything to help Russia interfere in the twenty sixteen election.

994
00:52:23.239 --> 00:52:25.400
So these people did nothing wrong. And yet despite that,

995
00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:28.159
the people have lost their homes. There are millions of

996
00:52:28.159 --> 00:52:30.639
dollars in debt to their lawyers. As I said, they've

997
00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:33.119
been by Michael Putto did get cancer in the middle

998
00:52:33.119 --> 00:52:35.079
of all this that I'm sure the stress from that

999
00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:37.519
didn't help. So these people had been made very ill.

1000
00:52:38.039 --> 00:52:41.159
Lee Evershoff died from his illnesses. So this is deadly, nasty,

1001
00:52:41.199 --> 00:52:43.800
horrible stuff. And I hope the judgment fund gives these

1002
00:52:43.800 --> 00:52:47.519
people the compensation they deserve for all the suffering that

1003
00:52:47.559 --> 00:52:50.360
they've held, that they've suffered at the hands of the

1004
00:52:50.360 --> 00:52:53.800
deep state, again for doing nothing wrong. They did nothing wrong.

1005
00:52:54.360 --> 00:52:59.440
Yeah, well, and here once again you've got including a

1006
00:52:59.519 --> 00:53:04.719
former resident who talked about, you know, election interference and

1007
00:53:05.079 --> 00:53:10.440
interfering with the smooth transition of power. And he's right

1008
00:53:10.519 --> 00:53:12.760
up front and center on this old deal. You know,

1009
00:53:12.840 --> 00:53:17.039
Barack Obama orchestrating all this stuff with Hillary Clinton, interfering

1010
00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:19.599
with the you know, the twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen election,

1011
00:53:20.159 --> 00:53:25.519
and you know what's the consequence, Well, not even a

1012
00:53:25.559 --> 00:53:26.840
slap on the hand.

1013
00:53:27.119 --> 00:53:29.400
You know, we talked about Russian collusion. The only Russian

1014
00:53:29.400 --> 00:53:31.960
collusion that took place was on the part of the Democrats.

1015
00:53:31.960 --> 00:53:34.360
As you mentioned, Hillary Clinton when she was at the

1016
00:53:34.400 --> 00:53:38.320
State Department, allowed the Uranium one deal to go through.

1017
00:53:38.760 --> 00:53:40.880
In essence, what happened is the Kremlin was able to

1018
00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:44.239
control twenty percent of the US uranium supply. Okay, that's

1019
00:53:44.880 --> 00:53:48.599
major help and assistance to Russia that went through. Nothing

1020
00:53:48.639 --> 00:53:50.920
ever happened. That was Russian collusion. And then you know

1021
00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:53.519
what Hillary did with the campaign where she got Perkins

1022
00:53:53.599 --> 00:53:57.960
Cooey to get Fusion GPS to do opposition research on Trump.

1023
00:53:58.280 --> 00:54:00.599
They went and got this spy and in Great Britain

1024
00:54:00.639 --> 00:54:02.480
to put together that what was called the Dirty Dossier

1025
00:54:02.880 --> 00:54:07.440
about Trump's alleged involvement with Russia and his chief witness,

1026
00:54:08.440 --> 00:54:11.719
the person he relied on to get information. This was

1027
00:54:11.960 --> 00:54:15.360
a Russian guy named Igor Dutchenko. Okay, so the only

1028
00:54:15.440 --> 00:54:17.960
Russian involvement we had wasn't the part of Hillary Clinton

1029
00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:20.000
and the Democrats. They got a Russian guy to say

1030
00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:24.400
bad stuff. But Trump pump that into the electoral into

1031
00:54:24.440 --> 00:54:27.239
the political landscape and her fine for that, by the way,

1032
00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:30.639
her punishment and eight thousand dollars fine, eight thousand bucks.

1033
00:54:30.760 --> 00:54:34.119
That's it. No jail time, no major fine. I think

1034
00:54:34.159 --> 00:54:36.360
the eight thousand dollars fine got paid by her campaign.

1035
00:54:36.679 --> 00:54:38.559
So this is what happened to the Democrats A little

1036
00:54:38.599 --> 00:54:41.480
time microscopic finds occasionally, but mainly they get book deals,

1037
00:54:41.719 --> 00:54:45.079
they get TV contracts. The oppressors who hurt these people.

1038
00:54:45.119 --> 00:54:47.760
I described to you people like John Brennan and John

1039
00:54:47.800 --> 00:54:51.679
Clapper and Peter Struck and Andrew Weisman at the FBI.

1040
00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:54.800
You turn on MS now you turn on CNN, and

1041
00:54:54.800 --> 00:54:57.559
those guys are on TV ammering away about public policy

1042
00:54:57.840 --> 00:55:01.320
getting paid. I'm sure six digits are more for their appearances.

1043
00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:04.400
And those are the consequences they quote unquote suffer book

1044
00:55:04.440 --> 00:55:08.320
contracts and TV deals. Well, our guys go bankrupt, lose

1045
00:55:08.360 --> 00:55:09.519
their homes, and go to prison.

1046
00:55:09.960 --> 00:55:12.920
Yeah there it is, Deroy Murdoch. Thank you, Deroi. I

1047
00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:16.079
appreciate it. Again. Remind everybody where they can read more

1048
00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:16.519
about it.

1049
00:55:17.239 --> 00:55:19.360
I'm sure this is an article that just came out

1050
00:55:19.440 --> 00:55:23.039
on the American Spectator and it's all about the end

1051
00:55:23.079 --> 00:55:25.599
of the Justice Fund. But these people ought to be

1052
00:55:25.599 --> 00:55:28.679
compensated by the Judgment Fund. Yeah, I agree, so American

1053
00:55:28.719 --> 00:55:31.079
Spectator Til's in coortant to kill the Justice Fund along

1054
00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:33.119
with the Judgment Fund. That's the headline.

1055
00:55:33.440 --> 00:55:35.599
Well there it is. Check it out, ladies and gentlemen.

1056
00:55:36.000 --> 00:55:39.719
He is Deroy Murdoch, the Manhattan Makes Fox News contributor.

1057
00:55:39.920 --> 00:55:41.559
Thank you, de Roy, take care, got speak.

1058
00:55:41.320 --> 00:55:42.880
All right, Bill, Talk to you soon. Thank you bye.

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Welcome Morning America. Six minutes after the top of the

1081
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our I am Bill Martinez is Scott pal for the

1082
00:57:01.280 --> 00:57:05.840
Discovering Institute and the infamous author himself who's got a

1083
00:57:05.840 --> 00:57:06.599
new book coming out.

1084
00:57:06.639 --> 00:57:07.719
I'll just tease it that much.

1085
00:57:07.719 --> 00:57:10.400
And you know, we're excited. We can't wait until it's

1086
00:57:10.519 --> 00:57:14.320
uh its final release. But I guess, uh, it's almost

1087
00:57:14.320 --> 00:57:16.039
at the printers even as we're talking, right.

1088
00:57:16.559 --> 00:57:20.880
Yeah, it's it's a contract is signed and it's going

1089
00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:24.199
through an editing process and it's on an extradited path

1090
00:57:24.320 --> 00:57:28.320
because it's using a fast technology for printing books.

1091
00:57:28.840 --> 00:57:31.440
Yeah, I mean, how dare them edit genius?

1092
00:57:31.519 --> 00:57:33.599
I mean, no, no, no, no, what are they?

1093
00:57:33.880 --> 00:57:34.079
Mom?

1094
00:57:34.280 --> 00:57:38.960
Guy? I benefit from every editor I.

1095
00:57:38.159 --> 00:57:41.719
No, I understand. I mean, they're they're really God's blessing,

1096
00:57:41.960 --> 00:57:44.639
you know, to have have editors and you know always

1097
00:57:44.679 --> 00:57:47.800
the second eyes like that or are quite the value? U?

1098
00:57:48.000 --> 00:57:48.519
There are?

1099
00:57:48.599 --> 00:57:48.840
Yeah?

1100
00:57:48.960 --> 00:57:52.039
Yeah, I want to talk about your latest article is

1101
00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:56.599
a town hall right, yes, Uh, time to stop, time

1102
00:57:56.679 --> 00:57:59.599
to stop negotiating with terrorists. Let's get her done. Uh,

1103
00:57:59.679 --> 00:58:01.960
let's get the job done.

1104
00:58:02.480 --> 00:58:04.880
Well there, I point out in the article that there's

1105
00:58:04.920 --> 00:58:08.880
been a normal sea bias that has crept into a

1106
00:58:10.800 --> 00:58:15.880
people who involved with policymaking and strategic uh, you know,

1107
00:58:17.119 --> 00:58:20.960
military thinking, you know, and that and and that has

1108
00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:28.159
been that. You know, we fight wars to negotiate a settlement, settlements.

1109
00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:31.000
You know, the purpose of war is not necessarily to

1110
00:58:32.039 --> 00:58:37.519
get a victory, a decisive win where you dictate the terms,

1111
00:58:38.559 --> 00:58:42.400
but rather a negotiated settlement. That's what went on in Vietnam.

1112
00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:45.480
That's what's gone in many wars, and it's true in

1113
00:58:45.519 --> 00:58:47.000
Iran and.

1114
00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:49.920
Chamber so so Neville Chamberlain lives. This is what you're

1115
00:58:49.920 --> 00:58:50.320
telling me.

1116
00:58:51.360 --> 00:58:54.000
I'm not sure that it's Nevill Chamberlain. I think it's

1117
00:58:54.039 --> 00:58:57.960
a combination of Uh. Well, that's why I use the

1118
00:58:58.039 --> 00:59:02.079
normal sea bias. The normalcy bias is that we think

1119
00:59:02.119 --> 00:59:05.000
about other people the way we think about ourselves. That

1120
00:59:05.039 --> 00:59:09.960
we're rational people and we will negotiate a truce and

1121
00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:13.440
a settlement. If we're losing a war, you know, we

1122
00:59:13.480 --> 00:59:16.599
don't we don't want to keep you know, you don't

1123
00:59:16.639 --> 00:59:19.280
want to fight a losing battle to the end. That's

1124
00:59:19.320 --> 00:59:23.760
that's not that's not wise. So you negotiate a settlement.

1125
00:59:23.840 --> 00:59:27.519
So the view of of you know, Haig Seth and

1126
00:59:27.679 --> 00:59:30.679
Trump is that if we drop enough bomb tonnage on

1127
00:59:30.760 --> 00:59:36.760
them and you know, enough firepower, enough you know, damage

1128
00:59:37.679 --> 00:59:40.679
raising the pain, that these people are going to negotiate

1129
00:59:40.719 --> 00:59:43.199
in good they're going to negotiate a peace settlement that

1130
00:59:43.239 --> 00:59:45.840
they'll stick to. I think it's nonsense.

1131
00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:48.840
Well, it's non historical. They've never done it.

1132
00:59:49.400 --> 00:59:51.480
They have no exactly.

1133
00:59:51.239 --> 00:59:53.679
So I mean, I mean again, I keep referring to

1134
00:59:53.719 --> 00:59:57.000
Thomas Jefferson. He saw that early. It took care of

1135
00:59:57.039 --> 01:00:00.599
business and in the Marines, and you know, the modern

1136
01:00:00.760 --> 01:00:06.239
military mindset, and it's it's it's unusual for me because

1137
01:00:06.280 --> 01:00:08.679
you know, when Hegseeth came out, he talked about you know,

1138
01:00:08.719 --> 01:00:12.440
the warrior ethos, you know, and and of course Hegseeth

1139
01:00:12.599 --> 01:00:15.559
only has so much authority. It's it's the president who's

1140
01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:21.360
orchestrating this. And uh, you know, you're exactly right. When

1141
01:00:21.400 --> 01:00:24.440
you go to war, you go to win, I mean,

1142
01:00:24.559 --> 01:00:29.000
and anything less than that, uh, you're you're giving up.

1143
01:00:29.079 --> 01:00:31.199
You're giving up too much for all that you've expended.

1144
01:00:31.519 --> 01:00:34.119
And especially in this case, because we have been on

1145
01:00:34.239 --> 01:00:37.719
and off again uh with Iran, and they're going to

1146
01:00:37.760 --> 01:00:39.599
continue to do everything they can to drag it out

1147
01:00:39.679 --> 01:00:44.199
because they know America. They they know our ethos better

1148
01:00:44.280 --> 01:00:47.119
than we do. That we will think in that in

1149
01:00:47.199 --> 01:00:51.199
that kind of normal delusion, you know that somehow we're

1150
01:00:51.199 --> 01:00:53.159
trying to fit a round peg in a square hole gear.

1151
01:00:54.599 --> 01:00:57.159
Well, they also are trying to play us, you know,

1152
01:00:57.239 --> 01:00:59.400
because they know a midterm election is coming, and so

1153
01:00:59.440 --> 01:01:03.320
there's no vulnerability to want to you know, stop the

1154
01:01:03.360 --> 01:01:07.960
war because it can be negative for the Trump administration

1155
01:01:08.239 --> 01:01:09.400
and the Republican Party.

1156
01:01:10.159 --> 01:01:15.360
So it's it's it's problematic. But I think if we

1157
01:01:15.440 --> 01:01:17.480
can win this war, and I point out that there's

1158
01:01:17.599 --> 01:01:22.000
three things that we we need to do, uh to

1159
01:01:22.360 --> 01:01:24.880
you know, to bring a quick end to this war,

1160
01:01:24.960 --> 01:01:28.320
and that is that we need to we need to

1161
01:01:28.360 --> 01:01:37.440
destroy or m h make all routes to you know

1162
01:01:37.519 --> 01:01:40.119
that are connected to other countries. You know, we can

1163
01:01:40.119 --> 01:01:44.679
control the sea routes, but the overland routes from primarily

1164
01:01:44.719 --> 01:01:48.639
from Pakistan. But you know, you also have other neighbors

1165
01:01:48.920 --> 01:01:54.679
to the north and if if, if they can import

1166
01:01:55.039 --> 01:01:58.599
re armaments, that's not a good thing. So we need

1167
01:01:58.800 --> 01:02:03.079
we need to absolutely cut those off totally. There can

1168
01:02:03.119 --> 01:02:09.400
be no resupplying Iran for any of armed Number two,

1169
01:02:11.280 --> 01:02:14.719
we need to cut off their oil export. And I

1170
01:02:14.719 --> 01:02:17.559
think we've done a pretty good job, but we really

1171
01:02:17.599 --> 01:02:21.199
need to make it absolute, so there's no revenue coming

1172
01:02:21.239 --> 01:02:22.760
into Iran.

1173
01:02:23.239 --> 01:02:25.039
Yeah, because that's what the pause that when you hit

1174
01:02:25.039 --> 01:02:27.920
the pause button, then there's a there's a flow of

1175
01:02:28.039 --> 01:02:31.360
revenue because they're able to export. So yeah, it's it's

1176
01:02:31.440 --> 01:02:34.519
counterproductive in that way. And they know how to move,

1177
01:02:34.559 --> 01:02:36.800
They move very quickly. In fact, they they had were

1178
01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:40.079
there was reports that in these pauses the kind of

1179
01:02:40.519 --> 01:02:42.519
billions of dollars that they're generating.

1180
01:02:42.519 --> 01:02:46.800
Scott, Yeah, we can't allow that. Yeah, it's ridiculous, that's crazy.

1181
01:02:47.079 --> 01:02:50.119
Yeah, you might as well have you know, Obama send

1182
01:02:50.159 --> 01:02:52.920
more palettes of cash in the dark of night, right,

1183
01:02:53.880 --> 01:02:54.639
just saying.

1184
01:02:55.079 --> 01:02:55.480
Just saying.

1185
01:02:56.719 --> 01:02:59.000
And lastly, I mean, this is a serious business. But

1186
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if we did these things and there's a third thing,

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you see, and I used the you know, I know

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my history reasonably well of foreign countries and particularly Japan.

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I has been married to a Japanese woman and studied

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East Asian culture. The Japanese were a society that, leading

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up to World War two, merged their Shinto beliefs with

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the state interests, and they believed that there that their emperor,

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Emperor hero Hido, was a direct descendant from the god Amritsu,

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so that he was infallible. Therefore Japan was infallible. So

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the war was conducted in this way of infallibility that

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they were going to win, and they were going to

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you know, Japan had a vision of.

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Ruling the world.

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Actually do you know that? And so they developed a

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kamikazi uh you know strategy, right, It's very similar to

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the Iranian strategy, the Chiehte death cults, the same thing,

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same thing. So, but we won decisive victory in Japan

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and therefore, and I point out that the vast majority

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of Japanese people supported the state supported the war effort.

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In Iran, it's just the opposite. The vast majority over

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eighty percent of the Iranian people want the Mulla regime defeated.

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In other words, we have eighty more than eighty percent

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of people on our side in Iran. We need to

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use that. And so when we can achieve these two

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first goals cutting off all ability to bring in rearmament

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and number two cutting off all ability to raise money

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through exporting oil, then the next the third stage is

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arming the people. We need to arm the people. And

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I don't know how many arms are required. I did

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research and found that when you know, when the uh

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Kumani took over after in the seventy nine revolution, there

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were about three hundred there were about three hundred thousand

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people that had arms. Three hundred thousand, right, So I

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mean I think we should have over half a million arms.

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I don't know, but there's certainly intelligence people that can

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calculate what's required get those arms into the hands of

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the people. And you know, it's a big country, it's

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very spread out, and we.

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Control the ninety million population there, Scott, you know.

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Yes, yes, right, yeah, but not all of them are

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going to fight. I mean it's the men, yeah, merily,

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it's all the men pretty much. And we can do

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air drops. We control the skies, right, you know, do

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air drops of small arms all over the place, and

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that regime is going to fall because it's it's on

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While we're talking with Scott Pale, senior fellow at the

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Discovery Institute in the author and a member of the

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committee on this present danger in China, and Scott, you're

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exactly right. I mean, they've been pulverized, but you know,

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the the leadership the RGC is so determined, and you

1327
01:11:15.359 --> 01:11:18.039
know we've identified that this is a death cult. It's

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a different type of war at this point. And the

1329
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people themselves, even though they greatly outnumber the RGC, they

1330
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don't have weapons, and they but they've got to feel

1331
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like if if they're if the weapons are given to

1332
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them that they have a fair shot at it, you know,

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and right now they don't. I mean, they they thought,

1334
01:11:41.640 --> 01:11:44.079
like normal people, Hey, we're going to revolt and go

1335
01:11:44.119 --> 01:11:46.359
out in the street. What do we got to lose? Well,

1336
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they found out what they had to lose with their

1337
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lives because the GC just came out and mowed them down.

1338
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Over fifty thousand people they killed, and you know, and

1339
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I think that's a conservative number, and the still killing people,

1340
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and you know, it's just like, okay, when or when

1341
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do they get to the point that they you know,

1342
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kind of like America when America got to that point

1343
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and said, okay, what have we got to lose? You know,

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We're going to put our reputation, We're putting our very lives,

1345
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our you know, resources, everything, We're going to put it

1346
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all on the line for the sake of freedom. And

1347
01:12:21.439 --> 01:12:26.399
this is what's being required of the Iranian people. But

1348
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the United States has to think in terms and of course,

1349
01:12:29.640 --> 01:12:32.039
you know, you and I are talking and there's a

1350
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lot of smart people militarily that are strategizing all this.

1351
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But you know, I think that you know, our opinion

1352
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and our ideas are about as fair as anybody else's

1353
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because this thing is lingering, as you.

1354
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Say, yes, yes, no, I think that you know, the

1355
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regime actually is very it's been greatly diminished. I mean,

1356
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we've taken out a lot of the upper echelon. Oh,

1357
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we know that there are defections for the you know,

1358
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from the army. We we but we need to get

1359
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these three things done. The third one being arming the people.

1360
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They are not going to go out in the streets

1361
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and get mowed down, but if they have weapons, they

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probably will fight.

1363
01:13:17.479 --> 01:13:19.960
Yeah. And and I don't and I don't know that

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there's a contingent within Iran. I got to think there

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would be you know, some military uh, you know, download

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underground you know, organization, because that that's always the case.

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But they're not going to risk at all, you know,

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unless they have you know, they have a fair chance

1369
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and they feel like, okay, the strategy is set up,

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you know, uh, Israel is in place the United States

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in terms of what they're doing overhead. Uh, and that

1372
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they're going to be able to They're gonna have to go.

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It's gonna there's gonna have to be you know, some

1374
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ground fighting here. You know, we we've pulverized them in

1375
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the air. That's not enough. They're not ready to cry

1376
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uncle yet. And so this is really demanding a face

1377
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to face confrontation, don't you think.

1378
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Well, I don't know that we need troops on the

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ground yet. I mean, we have amazing, uh military equipment.

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I mean the you know, the A ten warthog. This

1381
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is a killing machine. So when you know, you know,

1382
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when the IRGC comes out in any sort of you know,

1383
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in any sort of group, they can be easily eliminated.

1384
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Yeah, but they're not coming out they know better.

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Well, if they're going to come out to kill Iranian people,

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let's kill them first, right. I mean, I'm not a

1387
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military strategist, so I don't know, but I believe that

1388
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there is I believe this is when this is very winnable,

1389
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very very winnable. And it may take just a little

1390
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bit longer than we'd like, but I think it can

1391
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be a fairly a fairly h swift defeat if we

1392
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get these three things in place.

1393
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Well, like everything Scott in every military operations, certainly in

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the recent time, you know, you think back and you

1395
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look back historically and say, did we underestimate our our enemy?

1396
01:15:17.920 --> 01:15:21.439
And uh, and that may be the case here. Uh,

1397
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it may be a situation that uh, you know where

1398
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Donald Trump cares more about life certainly than the IRGC.

1399
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You know, they could care less about the Iranians there. Uh,

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you know, they're they care more about their ideology and

1401
01:15:37.399 --> 01:15:40.840
of course for them, because some of this is driven

1402
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by religious zelotry. They are doing this all in the

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name of the Mahdi because they feel like they're set

1404
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in the stage and that they if they abandon uh

1405
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you know, their their fight right now, it will preclude

1406
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the Madi coming in. So, I mean, the level of

1407
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religious militry is is beyond comprehension. In the West, we

1408
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don't know that zelotry.

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01:16:05.960 --> 01:16:08.439
Yeah, well we know that that that that was the

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zelotry in Japan, and we defeated Japan. Now we use

1411
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two nuclear bombs to bring them, you know, for them

1412
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to surrender. And this is different, but it's still somewhat similar.

1413
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If we can get more decisive military defeats, diminish their numbers, uh,

1414
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and arm the people. And they have no revenue. I mean,

1415
01:16:34.319 --> 01:16:37.840
you know, this is a very weak regime. Now we

1416
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are underestimating its weakness. Actually I believe.

1417
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Right, Well, hey, they're they'rewithstanding us, I know, even to

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01:16:46.840 --> 01:16:50.079
this point, so uh, you know, weak as relative. I

1419
01:16:50.079 --> 01:16:53.680
think that, you know, we got Japan to that point

1420
01:16:54.159 --> 01:16:59.760
where you know, reason was able to to be present

1421
01:17:00.319 --> 01:17:06.239
after two Adam bombs hit Japan, and the emperor, I believe,

1422
01:17:06.520 --> 01:17:11.279
finally had to wake up to reality and deal with

1423
01:17:11.359 --> 01:17:17.199
the responsibility of his own citizens being you know, being

1424
01:17:17.319 --> 01:17:21.880
killed here and knowing that my goodness, they just overpowered

1425
01:17:22.039 --> 01:17:25.079
and two atomic bombs, and like, we got to stop

1426
01:17:25.119 --> 01:17:28.960
this otherwise we're going to be totally destroyed. So there

1427
01:17:29.039 --> 01:17:32.800
was enough I guess, enough sense in the emperor and

1428
01:17:32.960 --> 01:17:37.359
concern for his own people that he was willing to

1429
01:17:37.439 --> 01:17:41.439
negotiate an unconditional surrender. I don't think that's the case,

1430
01:17:41.600 --> 01:17:43.760
and I think you agree with that that that's not

1431
01:17:43.880 --> 01:17:46.359
the case with the with the Mullahs and the current

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01:17:46.439 --> 01:17:47.880
regime of Iran.

1433
01:17:50.000 --> 01:17:53.800
No, it's not. But I think that the same principles

1434
01:17:53.800 --> 01:17:57.079
are still true, and that is that if you can

1435
01:17:58.000 --> 01:18:04.720
really show such force and such destruction and you lose

1436
01:18:04.760 --> 01:18:08.039
a lot of your you know, you you lose a

1437
01:18:08.079 --> 01:18:11.640
lot of the uh you know I g R you know,

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01:18:11.720 --> 01:18:15.239
the the you know, the the Islamic I r GC

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01:18:16.399 --> 01:18:22.239
forces uh, and and their you know, political leadership is

1440
01:18:22.640 --> 01:18:27.319
just continues to be diminished. There can come a point

1441
01:18:27.359 --> 01:18:31.279
where the people can get the job done if they're armed.

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01:18:31.520 --> 01:18:34.359
But I I believe that's the case. I agree with

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01:18:34.399 --> 01:18:36.600
you that it's going to be up to the people

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01:18:36.680 --> 01:18:40.239
to respond when when it's ready. And I don't know

1445
01:18:40.239 --> 01:18:43.680
how many more people have to die before they get

1446
01:18:43.720 --> 01:18:48.199
to that point and that they have access to weapons

1447
01:18:48.199 --> 01:18:50.800
to where they can defend themselves. But I think in

1448
01:18:50.880 --> 01:18:55.119
terms of uh, a political component, don't you think the component,

1449
01:18:55.279 --> 01:18:58.439
that political component is all but dead because it would

1450
01:18:58.439 --> 01:19:01.800
appear that the I r GC is that they have

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01:19:02.039 --> 01:19:05.039
the full you know, control of everything. You know, they're

1452
01:19:05.079 --> 01:19:07.920
the ones that are pulling the levers right now. You know,

1453
01:19:08.000 --> 01:19:12.560
there's whatever politically seems to be out there just seems

1454
01:19:12.560 --> 01:19:15.119
to be more of a paper tiger. And that you know,

1455
01:19:15.159 --> 01:19:18.560
I got a handed to them. They're doing enough to

1456
01:19:18.600 --> 01:19:23.520
convince Trump that there's some hope and you know, let's

1457
01:19:23.520 --> 01:19:26.159
stretch this out a little bit longer. But I think

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01:19:26.199 --> 01:19:28.800
that uh, you know, and I thought this the last

1459
01:19:28.840 --> 01:19:31.880
time that Trump was on his last thread, But it

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01:19:31.880 --> 01:19:37.000
would seem that, you know, if he's not there, he's

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01:19:37.039 --> 01:19:38.000
pretty close to there.

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01:19:38.680 --> 01:19:41.359
Well, yeah, and we've got you know, we have Sunni

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01:19:41.439 --> 01:19:45.279
regimes that I think are gonna will join us. They've

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01:19:45.319 --> 01:19:50.680
already they've already done military strikes. So let's let's get

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01:19:50.880 --> 01:19:57.680
overwhelming force going uh and and and let's save these

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01:19:57.720 --> 01:20:01.000
Iranian people. You know, this is a great cause. This

1467
01:20:01.039 --> 01:20:05.359
is a wonderful cause that would transform the Middle East

1468
01:20:05.399 --> 01:20:09.800
more than anything else. Right, it really is a noble cause.

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01:20:10.199 --> 01:20:13.520
Yeah, it is. It is, And I agree, I agree totally.

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01:20:13.560 --> 01:20:16.439
And I think this is why I supported uh, you know,

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01:20:16.720 --> 01:20:20.880
going in and stopping Iran from going nuclear, the danger

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01:20:20.920 --> 01:20:23.079
that they would create it, I mean, and and I

1473
01:20:23.279 --> 01:20:26.239
that's the thing that to me just blows me away

1474
01:20:26.319 --> 01:20:28.399
is how the Democrats, because they hate Trump so much

1475
01:20:28.640 --> 01:20:32.600
and adversarial, they cannot see that, you know, they refuse

1476
01:20:32.720 --> 01:20:35.239
to see that this is a good thing, is making

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01:20:35.279 --> 01:20:38.680
sure Iran does not go nuclear. It's almost like as

1478
01:20:38.720 --> 01:20:42.920
if they're cheering them on and uh and being antagonistic

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01:20:42.960 --> 01:20:44.399
to the President of the United States.

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01:20:45.159 --> 01:20:48.680
It's you know, it's it's a you know, our bizarre

1481
01:20:48.720 --> 01:20:51.560
domestic politics have degraded significantly.

1482
01:20:51.800 --> 01:20:57.199
So yeah, and of course then here we are, you know,

1483
01:20:57.239 --> 01:21:00.640
we're realizing the Democratic Party is not the Democratic Party anymore,

1484
01:21:01.239 --> 01:21:05.279
and so that adds to the chaos as well, because

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01:21:05.520 --> 01:21:08.520
the Democratic Party is in a civil war of their own.

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01:21:08.640 --> 01:21:12.840
But anyway, we'll continue to report and keep our eyes

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01:21:12.880 --> 01:21:15.359
on at Scott Pellell and thank you as always appreciate

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01:21:15.399 --> 01:21:17.520
you coming on. Scott is a author member of the

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01:21:17.520 --> 01:21:19.960
Committee on this President Danger China, a senior fellow at

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the Discovery Institute. Thank you, sir, take care of got speed.

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You know, more than fifty million Americans one in every

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seven people, receive care through community health centers, making them

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one of the nation's largest providers of affordable, comprehensive healthcare.

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More than fifteen hundred community health centers operate seventeen thousand

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01:25:23.640 --> 01:25:28.680
service sites nationwide, providing primary care, behavioral health, they don't care,

1562
01:25:28.680 --> 01:25:33.159
and other essential services regardless of a patient's ability to pay.

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And here to tell us more about it is the

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President and CEO of the National Association of Community Health Centers,

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Doctor Qree, Doctor q how are you.

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01:25:44.199 --> 01:25:46.479
I'm good. Thank you so much Bill for having me.

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Hey, great to have you here to talk about this,

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01:25:49.039 --> 01:25:53.560
because as patients' needs continue to grow, we're looking to

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community health centers to help out.

1570
01:25:56.119 --> 01:26:01.439
Right, Yes, we are, and as you shared, over fifty

1571
01:26:01.560 --> 01:26:04.279
million people have chosen to get their care at a

1572
01:26:04.319 --> 01:26:06.920
community health center, and one in seven, including one in

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01:26:07.000 --> 01:26:10.800
three in rural America. Over the last six years, we've

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01:26:10.840 --> 01:26:16.159
grown to be our nation's largest primary care system. We

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01:26:16.199 --> 01:26:20.199
are at the front door to health, right, and I

1576
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think you know your listeners want to know how do

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I get healthy?

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How do I stay healthy?

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We have over seventeen four hundred welcome matts, welcoming everyone

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across the nation, regardless of their ability to pay.

1581
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Well, doctor Q, I think you know the concern for

1582
01:26:38.439 --> 01:26:43.079
health is increase because we're living longer, and we're back

1583
01:26:43.119 --> 01:26:45.000
to that old Yogi bear saying yeah, I don't know

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if you remembered or not. You know, he said that

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if I knew I was going to live this long,

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I'd taken better care of myself.

1587
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Right, Yes, it is so important.

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You know, we often we are living longer, although we've

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01:26:56.960 --> 01:26:59.920
you know, we are at this moment where we have

1590
01:27:00.119 --> 01:27:05.479
chronic disease crisis. We also have a challenge in terms

1591
01:27:05.560 --> 01:27:09.880
of aging populations in the US. So you know, it's

1592
01:27:09.920 --> 01:27:12.920
important to not only live long, but live well. And

1593
01:27:12.960 --> 01:27:15.680
that's what Cammia Hell Centers are about, finding ways to

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make sure.

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I as a primary care doc, you know understand firsthand.

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You know, my job is to prevent that person with

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hypertension to get a stroke and have a heart attack

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01:27:25.199 --> 01:27:29.720
and have pain and suffering that person with diabetes, preventing

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01:27:29.760 --> 01:27:32.640
an amputation, preventing blindness, preventing kidney.

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Failure and dialysis.

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01:27:33.520 --> 01:27:37.039
So ultimately we are about primary care and prevention and

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01:27:37.239 --> 01:27:40.840
keeping keeping people and families healthy in their community.

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01:27:41.520 --> 01:27:43.840
You know, as you say, doctor Q, you know, yes,

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01:27:43.880 --> 01:27:47.600
people are living longer. But you know it's it's almost

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01:27:47.640 --> 01:27:49.840
like we've got a different set of ailments as you

1606
01:27:50.039 --> 01:27:56.279
as you just outline versus twenty years ago, right, I.

1607
01:27:56.199 --> 01:27:59.640
Mean, we are you know challenged with you know, chronic diseases.

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01:27:59.720 --> 01:28:05.199
I reference you know, physical health issues like hard health issues,

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01:28:05.399 --> 01:28:06.640
you know, diabetes.

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01:28:07.359 --> 01:28:09.239
Mental health is becoming.

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01:28:08.800 --> 01:28:12.319
A very big challenge especially you know, as we've learned

1612
01:28:12.399 --> 01:28:15.640
you know, you know the challenges that we've had, you know,

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01:28:15.960 --> 01:28:18.520
during the pandemic and post pandemic. I think there's a

1614
01:28:18.560 --> 01:28:22.840
better appreciation of mental health issues, substance abuse issues. So

1615
01:28:23.359 --> 01:28:26.600
we are in this very keen moment where I believe

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01:28:27.079 --> 01:28:30.640
primary care is the solution. Community health centers are the

1617
01:28:30.640 --> 01:28:37.800
solution to address this crisis, this affordability crisis, this trust crisis,

1618
01:28:38.239 --> 01:28:42.680
and this opportunity keep people healthy in the community, living longer,

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01:28:43.039 --> 01:28:46.920
living healthier, and really saving the healthcare system money. We

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01:28:47.000 --> 01:28:50.399
only cost one percent of healthcare spend to serve fourteen

1621
01:28:50.479 --> 01:28:51.640
percent of the population.

1622
01:28:52.199 --> 01:28:54.319
We deliver a thirteen to one ROI.

1623
01:28:54.560 --> 01:28:57.319
Studies on primary care have shown you invest one dollar

1624
01:28:57.359 --> 01:29:00.680
in primary care, you get thirteen dollars of saving. So

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01:29:00.880 --> 01:29:04.079
I believe we are the solution to address some of

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01:29:04.119 --> 01:29:05.520
these challenges we face.

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01:29:06.039 --> 01:29:07.920
Well, you know, you bring up some excellent points here,

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01:29:08.079 --> 01:29:10.520
and I'm sure people are stopping to think going thirteen

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01:29:10.560 --> 01:29:13.960
to one ROI. I mean, that is an awesome investment.

1630
01:29:14.359 --> 01:29:17.640
But you know, for those not familiar with community health centers,

1631
01:29:17.880 --> 01:29:21.640
what is a community health center and who can actually

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01:29:21.760 --> 01:29:22.479
use them?

1633
01:29:24.760 --> 01:29:27.920
So, as I was sharing, you know, we've grown from

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01:29:27.920 --> 01:29:31.640
those first two health centers in rural Mississippi and East

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01:29:31.680 --> 01:29:35.319
Boston nineteen sixty five to now have over seventeen four

1636
01:29:35.399 --> 01:29:37.079
hundred sites across this country.

1637
01:29:37.600 --> 01:29:40.359
We are the front door to health and healthcare. We

1638
01:29:40.399 --> 01:29:42.279
are available for everyone.

1639
01:29:42.600 --> 01:29:45.720
All are welcome is what the welcome mat says at

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01:29:45.720 --> 01:29:48.680
a community health center. We are also in communities where

1641
01:29:48.680 --> 01:29:52.880
the need is the highest, in rural communities, in underserved communities.

1642
01:29:52.920 --> 01:29:55.520
We're that safety net that catches people when the restless

1643
01:29:55.520 --> 01:29:59.520
system can't or hasn't. We're also built on three core

1644
01:29:59.520 --> 01:30:04.239
principles of being affordable, comprehensive, and effective. We're committed to

1645
01:30:04.319 --> 01:30:08.760
high quality care. We also are patient governed. So I

1646
01:30:08.800 --> 01:30:11.520
would say at a time we have a trust crisis

1647
01:30:11.560 --> 01:30:14.880
in our healthcare system, to know that fifty one percent

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01:30:14.920 --> 01:30:16.560
of the board of that health center when you're in

1649
01:30:16.600 --> 01:30:21.399
a waiting room is actually members of that community patients

1650
01:30:21.439 --> 01:30:24.399
who are served there. That make sure that the health

1651
01:30:24.439 --> 01:30:27.039
center is accountable to the people it serves, which is

1652
01:30:27.119 --> 01:30:29.840
I think a big reason why this model works.

1653
01:30:30.439 --> 01:30:32.520
Yeah, I mean, this is awesome. When you're you know

1654
01:30:32.760 --> 01:30:35.680
that you know patient I guess we can say patient centric.

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01:30:35.800 --> 01:30:38.119
Is that fair to say? Yeah?

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01:30:38.319 --> 01:30:42.920
Patient centered, patient governed. You know, we often think in

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01:30:43.039 --> 01:30:45.880
the healthcare system there's all these stakeholders that play a

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01:30:45.960 --> 01:30:49.960
role in the care we get, you know, payers, policy makers,

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01:30:50.600 --> 01:30:54.640
and the reality is, you know, health centers, just like

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01:30:54.680 --> 01:30:57.600
the rest of the system, should be focused on patients,

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01:30:57.800 --> 01:31:02.399
and we are by design patient centered and patient governed.

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01:31:03.800 --> 01:31:06.840
Well, how do community health centers you know, you kind

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01:31:06.840 --> 01:31:08.159
of touched on this a little bit, but I want

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01:31:08.199 --> 01:31:11.640
to you know, unpack this a little bit more and

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01:31:11.760 --> 01:31:14.680
how they make such a great difference in everyday lives

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01:31:14.680 --> 01:31:16.119
of patients across the country.

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01:31:18.640 --> 01:31:21.319
I think it starts with that welcome mat that front door,

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01:31:21.359 --> 01:31:24.680
that trust, and the fact that we also know we

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01:31:24.720 --> 01:31:28.039
save lives and save money, so people know whether they're

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01:31:28.079 --> 01:31:31.000
through friends and family. You know, we were originally called

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01:31:31.000 --> 01:31:34.920
neighborhood health centers. They know in that neighborhood, that's where

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01:31:34.920 --> 01:31:38.239
you can get great care that keeps you healthy or

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01:31:38.279 --> 01:31:42.039
gets you healthy. And we're designed to serve everyone regardless

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01:31:42.079 --> 01:31:46.680
of ability to pay. So when we look at the

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01:31:46.760 --> 01:31:50.640
numbers and we just got record a record breaking numbers

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01:31:50.680 --> 01:31:54.039
in terms of our growth from when we look at

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01:31:54.079 --> 01:31:56.399
last year's numbers, which is the fifty two point three

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01:31:56.479 --> 01:31:58.720
million that we serve and the three hundred and thirty

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01:31:58.720 --> 01:32:02.640
four thousand plus workforce that serves you know, we serve

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01:32:02.720 --> 01:32:05.920
veterans nearly half a million in a year. We serve

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01:32:06.000 --> 01:32:11.000
children over ten million, We serve seniors you know, over

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01:32:11.039 --> 01:32:14.800
four million. We serve a lot of people who are unhoused.

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01:32:15.439 --> 01:32:18.479
One point six million people who are homeless. So the

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01:32:18.479 --> 01:32:21.479
fact that we meet whatever the need is and we're

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01:32:21.520 --> 01:32:25.279
welcome to all, I think is one of the ways.

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01:32:25.039 --> 01:32:26.640
We make that difference every day.

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01:32:26.680 --> 01:32:29.279
So I appreciate we're talking about Health Center Week this week,

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01:32:29.680 --> 01:32:32.039
but I just want you to know, in your community,

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01:32:32.039 --> 01:32:34.600
in your community, the community health centers working twenty four

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01:32:34.640 --> 01:32:36.359
to seven, three hundred and sixty five days a year

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01:32:36.720 --> 01:32:38.359
to keep your community healthy.

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01:32:38.800 --> 01:32:41.399
What an asset to the community. I believe that the

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01:32:42.159 --> 01:32:46.680
communities that do have, you know, these health centers, if

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01:32:47.039 --> 01:32:50.119
you know, just are relieved in many ways and grateful

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01:32:50.159 --> 01:32:53.560
for what you're doing. Again, ladies and gentlemen, The National

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01:32:53.600 --> 01:32:57.279
Association of Community Health Centers founded in nineteen seventy one

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01:32:57.319 --> 01:33:02.199
to champion community health centers deliver r, affordable, effective, comprehensive

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01:33:02.239 --> 01:33:06.800
primary care that is community driven and improves health for all.

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01:33:07.239 --> 01:33:12.399
And we're talking with doctor q Ree. He is the

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01:33:12.399 --> 01:33:16.520
president and CEO of the National Association of Community Health Centers.

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01:33:17.079 --> 01:33:20.880
What makes the models so unique? What makes you different

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01:33:20.920 --> 01:33:23.159
than any other hospital for that matter.

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01:33:24.279 --> 01:33:27.159
Yeah, I mean we talked a little bit about this.

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01:33:27.199 --> 01:33:31.960
We're local, we're patient governed, We're about that trust.

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01:33:32.159 --> 01:33:34.800
We go to where the need is.

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01:33:35.399 --> 01:33:37.840
We take care of the whole person, not just one disease,

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01:33:38.000 --> 01:33:40.520
not just one condition, not just one organ system, the

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01:33:40.520 --> 01:33:43.399
whole person, the whole family, and the whole community.

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01:33:43.439 --> 01:33:44.600
We're multi generational.

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01:33:44.720 --> 01:33:47.560
I as a primary career, doc loved the fact that

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01:33:47.640 --> 01:33:51.760
I had the privilege of serving children, the parents, the grandparents,

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01:33:51.800 --> 01:33:52.680
that whole family.

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01:33:52.840 --> 01:33:53.600
That's wild.

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01:33:53.680 --> 01:33:54.079
I love it.

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01:33:54.159 --> 01:33:54.800
Yeah, that's great.

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01:33:55.680 --> 01:33:59.680
Yeah, And you know, we provide oral health, we provide

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01:34:00.119 --> 01:34:04.000
behavioral health, we provide pharmacy services, We go beyond the

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01:34:04.039 --> 01:34:07.399
exam room. We partner with local community based organizations. We

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01:34:07.439 --> 01:34:10.520
recognize that health is more than just healthcare. And so

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01:34:10.680 --> 01:34:13.399
I think this is what makes our care model unique,

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01:34:13.560 --> 01:34:15.960
that ability to go to whatever the need is and

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01:34:16.000 --> 01:34:16.800
build that trust.

1723
01:34:17.239 --> 01:34:19.279
Well, doctor Q as we wrap things up two things

1724
01:34:19.359 --> 01:34:22.680
very quickly. Of course, as we mentioned, this is National

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01:34:22.720 --> 01:34:26.359
Health Center Week. What's the one message you want every American,

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01:34:26.399 --> 01:34:30.039
every policy maker to understand about community health centers and

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01:34:30.079 --> 01:34:33.880
where can listeners go for more information and find a

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01:34:33.960 --> 01:34:36.039
community health center near them.

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01:34:37.800 --> 01:34:41.199
So the one message is that when we have a

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01:34:41.239 --> 01:34:44.800
health system that's played with credibility issues and trust, communa

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01:34:44.800 --> 01:34:47.079
health centers are the one of the few parts of

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01:34:47.119 --> 01:34:51.159
the health system that still has earned trust and has

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01:34:51.239 --> 01:34:55.760
trust by design because patients help govern them. And we

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01:34:55.840 --> 01:34:59.119
need you to support committa health centers locally.

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01:35:00.079 --> 01:35:01.000
You think about National.

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01:35:00.840 --> 01:35:03.840
Health Center Week, I ask you to look at our

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01:35:03.880 --> 01:35:08.039
website NACCHC dot org.

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01:35:08.800 --> 01:35:11.079
Discover your local health center.

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01:35:11.119 --> 01:35:14.000
Go to the Final Health Center tool which lets you

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01:35:14.039 --> 01:35:15.960
search by zip code, city or state.

1741
01:35:16.920 --> 01:35:19.720
Also, we need you to sign up and be an advocate.

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01:35:19.800 --> 01:35:23.479
Go to the policy and Advocacy part and go advocate

1743
01:35:24.079 --> 01:35:27.000
and sign up for our action alerts because there are

1744
01:35:27.000 --> 01:35:30.000
so many issues that are happening in your state capitals

1745
01:35:30.039 --> 01:35:32.399
and in Washington that's important for you to be aware

1746
01:35:32.399 --> 01:35:35.399
of as you look to advocate for your commune health center.

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01:35:35.640 --> 01:35:39.520
And lastly, look to donate to your local community health center.

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01:35:39.800 --> 01:35:42.319
Look to donate and support the work we do at

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01:35:42.399 --> 01:35:45.279
NAC because it is so important that we all work

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01:35:45.319 --> 01:35:48.560
together to make sure the communities that we serve get

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01:35:48.600 --> 01:35:50.439
and stay healthy well.

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01:35:50.479 --> 01:35:53.560
Doctor Kirie, the President CEO of the National Association and

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01:35:53.600 --> 01:35:55.840
Community Health Centers, thank you for coming on the show

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01:35:55.840 --> 01:35:59.560
and telling us all about it, and have an enjoyable

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01:35:59.600 --> 01:36:02.239
and health healthy National Health Center Week.

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Craig Rutger who joins us now. Craig is the CEA

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Fact founder and president is Craig. How are we doing?

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I'm doing great, Bill, Thanks for having me on the program.

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Always good to have you here to talk about you know,

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the climate activists as we said before, they're like, you know,

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as somebody would say, like little cockaroaches, and they just

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grow another head and they just you know, they just

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keep hanging in there. I mean, it's it's amazing. I mean,

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regardless of all the empirical evidence, you know, that's their

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story and they're gonna stick to it, right Amen.

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Well, and I'll tell you it's it's concerning what they're doing.

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But what we are really alarmed by is some of

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the antics that they're doing to get inside the Republican Party.

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They've now launched several different groups that are One of

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them is called the American Conservation Coalition, the Conservation Environment Network.

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Uh.

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These are groups that are gaining traction inside Republican circles,

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but they're funded by those on the far left, the

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Rockefeller Foundation and the uh uh you know, uh Mott Foundation,

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And these are very far left groups and typically only

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fund groups on the far left. Nobody on the right

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generally receives it. But these groups have as a mission

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to bring the GOP faithful and the conservative and libertarian

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faithful over to what I call the green New Deal

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light that is kind of embracing the environmental agenda, but

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saying we want free markets to achieve it as opposed

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to government mandates. And uh, you know that's that's troubling

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because it's still a bad agenda, whether you're trying to

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get big business to push it on communities or whether

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you're trying to get the government men to do it.

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In both cases, it's a bad idea.

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Well, and like you say, Craig, I mean, this has

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been going on for decades. What have they done after

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all this, you know, polyticking and propaganda that they've done.

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You know, are we better off because of them? Are

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we worse off?

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Oh? We're clearly worse off. I mean, in fact, America

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had some of the cheapest electricity in the world. I

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mean when we were before we started putting in what

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they call renewable energy mandates. These are things where states

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require solar wind and things of that sort, we were

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paying maybe nine twelve cents of killo what hour. Now

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it's starting to get up there fifteen to twenty cents

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of kilo what hour as we make it mandatory and

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even read some of the red states that twenty five

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percent must come from energy sources. That al Gore and

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Greta Tunberg and those people say are necessary to keep

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us from a planetary apocalypse.

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From global warming.

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That's the only reason for the mandate. It's trying to

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address climate change. In this whole push is coming to

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try and avert that so called catastrophe, which is not

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a catastrophe because the science doesn't indicate in any way,

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shape or form that we're heading toward an apocalypse. Hence

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there's no need for the mandate. Hence we don't have

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to disrupt our lifestyles and buy expensive green energy, stop

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eating red meat, stop buying elect you know, stop buying

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01:43:26.319 --> 01:43:30.960
you know, combustion engine engine cars and going electric. But

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that is now their new tact is going after the

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Conservatives because they've been unsuccessful and getting everybody on board,

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and they feel that we're the obstacle. You Bill, are

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the obstacle because you keep holding them accountable. See fact

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that my organization and a bunch of others have been

1894
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a stick in the MUDs stopping them from achieving what

1895
01:43:51.640 --> 01:43:54.960
they want to achieve. So now they're trying to undercut

1896
01:43:55.039 --> 01:43:57.079
us by going inside.

1897
01:43:57.159 --> 01:44:01.359
Well, follow the money, you know, where's this going going

1898
01:44:01.399 --> 01:44:04.319
to and where's it coming from? I mean, like everything

1899
01:44:04.760 --> 01:44:09.199
that progressives do they find a way to get their

1900
01:44:10.399 --> 01:44:13.319
you know, get their hands into the treasury and they

1901
01:44:13.359 --> 01:44:15.720
bring in a big hose and start sucking, you know,

1902
01:44:15.800 --> 01:44:21.159
taxpayer money out to their particular interests and those politicians

1903
01:44:21.159 --> 01:44:24.079
that serve their need and bite their battles because, like

1904
01:44:24.119 --> 01:44:26.319
you said, I mean, here we are with these renewable

1905
01:44:26.439 --> 01:44:29.439
energy mandates, and you know how long have they been

1906
01:44:29.800 --> 01:44:34.760
in effect? And again, what's where's the ROI what benefit

1907
01:44:35.119 --> 01:44:39.279
have we gotten as a result of the these renewable mandates.

1908
01:44:39.800 --> 01:44:42.600
Well, we've seen how electricity go up as as other

1909
01:44:42.640 --> 01:44:45.520
countries around the world. I mean California now over twenty

1910
01:44:45.520 --> 01:44:49.319
cents of KILLO what hour? Again, we pay in Virginia,

1911
01:44:49.359 --> 01:44:51.840
I think it's like thirteen fourteen cents of KILLO what hour.

1912
01:44:51.880 --> 01:44:54.880
But we're starting to climb up there in Europe where

1913
01:44:54.880 --> 01:44:57.399
it's really advanced, they're paying like forty cents of KILLO

1914
01:44:57.479 --> 01:45:00.079
what hour, fifty cents a kill a what hour. Our

1915
01:45:00.079 --> 01:45:03.680
electricity rates have just skyrocketed. And I can tell you, Bill,

1916
01:45:03.720 --> 01:45:07.279
I was at a conference earlier this summer during the

1917
01:45:07.319 --> 01:45:09.920
midst of that heat wave which I guess is continuing

1918
01:45:09.960 --> 01:45:13.840
ongoing in Europe, and a lot of them don't have

1919
01:45:13.880 --> 01:45:15.199
air conditioning, and.

1920
01:45:15.279 --> 01:45:21.079
Yeah, ye don't have air conditioning. They had I think

1921
01:45:21.079 --> 01:45:23.359
it was one report, and I think it was a

1922
01:45:23.359 --> 01:45:26.600
monthly report. I quote me, I mean, you know, correct

1923
01:45:26.600 --> 01:45:28.640
me if I'm wrong, But they said that the over

1924
01:45:28.720 --> 01:45:34.159
twenty five thousand people died because of the heat exactly.

1925
01:45:34.479 --> 01:45:37.199
And I can tell you firsthand our conference was we

1926
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were sweating inside. The eventually did roll in a air

1927
01:45:41.399 --> 01:45:44.760
conditioning unit. I can tell you everybody was gathered around

1928
01:45:44.760 --> 01:45:45.399
that unit.

1929
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Cool.

1930
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Wow, No, this is silly, especially when you've got the

1931
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technology and the science already in place, but for the

1932
01:45:55.439 --> 01:45:58.079
stubbornness to try to force fit a round peg in

1933
01:45:58.119 --> 01:46:01.640
a square hole. And I mean, you know, here the

1934
01:46:01.680 --> 01:46:04.399
taxpayer and here in America, of course we hear about

1935
01:46:04.399 --> 01:46:06.960
the price of gas all along, but you know, when

1936
01:46:06.960 --> 01:46:10.800
they start looking at energy, it's almost like they've allowed

1937
01:46:10.840 --> 01:46:14.720
this just to kind of continue. I don't know for

1938
01:46:14.800 --> 01:46:18.640
whatever reason. Are they just feeling like maybe it's a

1939
01:46:18.760 --> 01:46:23.319
small investment for the sake of conservatism or you know, conservation.

1940
01:46:24.399 --> 01:46:27.520
I think people, and as you mentioned earlier, and I

1941
01:46:27.520 --> 01:46:29.680
think what you said is so true, follow the money.

1942
01:46:29.960 --> 01:46:32.039
The people that are behind this, even in the red

1943
01:46:32.079 --> 01:46:37.359
states are making a lot of dollars. There's, first off,

1944
01:46:37.399 --> 01:46:39.840
under the Biden administration, of course, there are a bunch

1945
01:46:39.840 --> 01:46:42.960
of handouts, tax credits, things like that would give you

1946
01:46:43.039 --> 01:46:46.680
an incentive to want to get this on your land,

1947
01:46:46.760 --> 01:46:50.560
So you might be prospering. Everybody else is paying higher rates,

1948
01:46:51.760 --> 01:46:54.760
so you're kind of prospering off of the rate payers.

1949
01:46:55.439 --> 01:46:58.920
But the money inside your own personal pocket's doing pretty good,

1950
01:46:59.399 --> 01:47:02.479
you know. I think that that's the incentive behind it.

1951
01:47:02.520 --> 01:47:04.600
And I know there's some good farmers and ranchers out

1952
01:47:04.600 --> 01:47:06.840
there that maybe even put a turbine or allowed it

1953
01:47:06.880 --> 01:47:10.079
on for the money. And I'm not criticizing them entirely

1954
01:47:10.119 --> 01:47:12.880
for doing that. They're just doing what's offered them. But

1955
01:47:14.239 --> 01:47:17.159
as far as a public good, I would rather they

1956
01:47:17.199 --> 01:47:20.840
stick with their farming that's actually producing food and agriculture

1957
01:47:20.840 --> 01:47:24.319
and things that are good for society. This wind, you're

1958
01:47:24.319 --> 01:47:27.479
allowing poison on your land. It's bad for the environment,

1959
01:47:27.600 --> 01:47:31.720
kills wildlife, and it produces an expensive electricity for the

1960
01:47:31.760 --> 01:47:35.319
rest of us. So you know, from my perspective, that's

1961
01:47:35.680 --> 01:47:39.680
one subsidy that I understand being taken, but I wish

1962
01:47:39.680 --> 01:47:42.960
it were not offered so that it wouldn't be a temptation.

1963
01:47:43.680 --> 01:47:47.479
Right exactly. And the farmers, and like you said, you

1964
01:47:47.560 --> 01:47:50.880
have compassion. I mean, the cost of fertilizer and other

1965
01:47:51.000 --> 01:47:54.600
expenses have been going on, and it's amazing that the

1966
01:47:54.720 --> 01:47:59.319
consistent issue in all these costs and expenses that farmers

1967
01:47:59.359 --> 01:48:03.079
have to deal with is big government. And so here

1968
01:48:03.239 --> 01:48:07.199
big government is I mean, they're they're they're so wily.

1969
01:48:07.319 --> 01:48:10.520
I mean, it really is. Is they find a way

1970
01:48:10.560 --> 01:48:14.439
to entrap the farmer and get them to participate in

1971
01:48:14.600 --> 01:48:18.279
something that's deleterious to them, like you said, instead of

1972
01:48:18.319 --> 01:48:21.960
them sticking to what they do best, which is farming.

1973
01:48:22.239 --> 01:48:24.079
You know, they've got to think, okay, I got to survive.

1974
01:48:24.199 --> 01:48:27.640
And uh, you know, it could be the younger farmers

1975
01:48:27.680 --> 01:48:30.279
that say, okay, you know, we're going to abandon our

1976
01:48:30.359 --> 01:48:34.439
principles and values here and you know, for the sake

1977
01:48:34.520 --> 01:48:39.920
of of survival, we're going to participate in this government subsidy,

1978
01:48:40.279 --> 01:48:45.159
which is you know, it counters. You know, good farming

1979
01:48:45.399 --> 01:48:50.239
and principles that you know traditionally have been have been

1980
01:48:50.279 --> 01:48:53.720
a boon and a benefit to farmers. But I mean,

1981
01:48:53.760 --> 01:48:56.640
like you said, you can't blame them because the government

1982
01:48:56.760 --> 01:48:59.119
is manipulating all this. I mean, it's all you know.

1983
01:48:59.760 --> 01:49:03.199
When it seems like Craig is that these are all

1984
01:49:03.239 --> 01:49:06.920
trojan horses, I mean, we've got trojan horses abounding in

1985
01:49:07.039 --> 01:49:10.520
all kinds of colors and shapes in every aspect of

1986
01:49:10.560 --> 01:49:11.199
our lives.

1987
01:49:12.239 --> 01:49:15.119
You're right. As a matter of fact, The dirty little

1988
01:49:15.199 --> 01:49:18.840
secret behind this is the Greens don't want farmers farming

1989
01:49:19.079 --> 01:49:22.279
at all. What they want to do is ban red meat,

1990
01:49:22.319 --> 01:49:26.159
for example, for ranching, and they think that farming takes

1991
01:49:26.239 --> 01:49:28.479
up way too much real estate. They want to return

1992
01:49:28.520 --> 01:49:31.239
itto wilderness. They have actually a plan to take they

1993
01:49:31.239 --> 01:49:33.800
call thirty by thirty thirty percent of the Earth's land

1994
01:49:33.880 --> 01:49:37.079
mast become wilderness by the year twenty thirty, and even

1995
01:49:37.079 --> 01:49:40.760
a fifty by fifty by twenty fifty to fifty percent

1996
01:49:40.800 --> 01:49:43.039
of the earth. In that way, one of the things

1997
01:49:43.039 --> 01:49:45.520
they have to do is get farmers off the land,

1998
01:49:46.000 --> 01:49:49.159
hence the big push for fake meat. If they can

1999
01:49:49.239 --> 01:49:53.680
get them employed, they might be putting out green energy

2000
01:49:54.239 --> 01:49:58.000
as opposed to actually farming. Then they're kind of their

2001
01:49:58.039 --> 01:50:01.960
slaves because then they can kind of quit farming. So

2002
01:50:02.000 --> 01:50:04.680
they're doing what the Greens want them to do and

2003
01:50:05.439 --> 01:50:09.159
get out of that lifestyle entirely and allow green energy

2004
01:50:09.199 --> 01:50:11.479
to go there and maybe even sell their land and

2005
01:50:11.520 --> 01:50:14.359
go move to the city where they would really want

2006
01:50:14.359 --> 01:50:17.399
them to be. Anyway, I mean, the Greens have been

2007
01:50:17.439 --> 01:50:19.640
responsible for a lot of this. Their climate policies in

2008
01:50:19.680 --> 01:50:23.479
Europe spark big protests in the Netherlands, in Germany and

2009
01:50:24.520 --> 01:50:28.520
you know UK because of the fact that you know,

2010
01:50:28.560 --> 01:50:32.800
they don't want farming and farmers to exist. So in

2011
01:50:32.960 --> 01:50:35.720
letting these wind farms on and letting these solar farms

2012
01:50:35.760 --> 01:50:39.680
on long term, that's going to be the demise of

2013
01:50:39.760 --> 01:50:42.479
our agricultural community long term.

2014
01:50:42.680 --> 01:50:43.600
It isn't short term.

2015
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I get it.

2016
01:50:44.079 --> 01:50:46.039
You get some book right now, but.

2017
01:50:45.920 --> 01:50:48.359
Well it just kind of creeps up on you until

2018
01:50:48.359 --> 01:50:50.079
you realize you go, oh my god, what are we doing.

2019
01:50:50.319 --> 01:50:53.600
It's kind of like Hawaii the way they've taken over Hawaii, right.

2020
01:50:54.720 --> 01:50:57.920
They have, as they say, why it enjoys or its

2021
01:50:58.000 --> 01:51:00.079
benefit of doing this, some of the highest electrics the

2022
01:51:00.239 --> 01:51:04.560
rates in the country. And so everywhere that this has

2023
01:51:04.560 --> 01:51:08.359
been tried, you will see heavy industry moving out and

2024
01:51:08.399 --> 01:51:12.039
you will see you know, them struggling to get any

2025
01:51:12.079 --> 01:51:15.279
sort of energy for any of their businesses that really matter.

2026
01:51:16.039 --> 01:51:19.880
That's why you see the hemorrhaging of companies going to China, India,

2027
01:51:20.159 --> 01:51:24.600
places that use old fashioned electricity. Yes, they do make

2028
01:51:24.720 --> 01:51:27.039
a lot of the solar panels and wind farms. And

2029
01:51:27.039 --> 01:51:30.199
you often hear Green saying, oh, they're leaders in renewable energy.

2030
01:51:30.279 --> 01:51:33.079
They make all the solar and wind. I said, well, true,

2031
01:51:33.359 --> 01:51:35.359
but if we had a mandate and they sell them

2032
01:51:35.359 --> 01:51:37.720
to us at a profit, yes, I said, but if

2033
01:51:37.720 --> 01:51:39.920
we had a mandate in America where everybody had to

2034
01:51:39.920 --> 01:51:42.560
have a plastic swing set on their front lawn, I'm

2035
01:51:42.560 --> 01:51:45.720
sure China and India would create plastic swing sets that

2036
01:51:45.760 --> 01:51:47.520
we could all place on our front lawn. Not that

2037
01:51:47.560 --> 01:51:49.600
they would put them on their own front lawn, but

2038
01:51:49.640 --> 01:51:52.800
they exactly help us do something wet dably stupid.

2039
01:51:53.119 --> 01:51:54.920
We've got to find a way to push back. And

2040
01:51:55.000 --> 01:51:58.279
let's wrap things up here, Craig, So what do we do?

2041
01:51:58.439 --> 01:51:59.680
What's our action step here?

2042
01:52:00.199 --> 01:52:02.640
Well, our action step is first and foremost, we got

2043
01:52:02.680 --> 01:52:04.760
to realize that the because I know a lot of

2044
01:52:04.760 --> 01:52:07.439
primaries in that are coming up, and some just happened

2045
01:52:07.520 --> 01:52:09.920
last night, and I think we have to ask our

2046
01:52:09.960 --> 01:52:12.600
candidates and the people leading us, do they buy into

2047
01:52:12.640 --> 01:52:15.880
this radical green agenda right in the town meetings and

2048
01:52:15.960 --> 01:52:19.560
hearings and start exposing it. I think that's the first

2049
01:52:19.560 --> 01:52:21.840
and foremost thing. We have to make it public. Ask them,

2050
01:52:22.079 --> 01:52:24.640
are they familiar with the fact that the Rockefellers and

2051
01:52:24.680 --> 01:52:28.079
the others are actually trying to push a green agenda

2052
01:52:28.159 --> 01:52:33.399
into the Conservative Party? And I think once this is exposed,

2053
01:52:34.279 --> 01:52:37.960
then we can start seeing them probably flee. So they

2054
01:52:38.000 --> 01:52:40.680
need to be discredited and they need to be shamed

2055
01:52:41.159 --> 01:52:44.720
and go back to kind of what President Trump is

2056
01:52:44.760 --> 01:52:49.640
talking about, a reliable, abundant electricity that can actually power

2057
01:52:49.720 --> 01:52:51.000
America into the future.

2058
01:52:51.479 --> 01:52:54.600
Exactly, Craig Record see FACT founder and president. The website

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they can go to for more information, Greg.

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It's c fact dot orbits c fac dot org.

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