Aug. 5, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 08 05 26

The Bill Martinez Show 08 05 26
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The Bill Martinez Show 08 05 26
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, okay, let's do an Ill Martinas Live a program

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about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and

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our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Six minutes after the top of the hour, Good morning America.

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I'm glad you could join us. Bill Martinez here along

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with Mark Manilla. Mark is a host of financial issues.

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It's a nationally syndicated radio and TV program. Hey, Market,

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morning to you. How are you good?

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Thank you? I hope you're doing well too, and thank

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you for having me.

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This is Yeah, it's an interesting time, isn't it. Mark?

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I mean I keep talking to my friends, I says,

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can you believe this? We've lived this long to see

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this kind of I don't know this instability and wackiness

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that is happening to our culture and our country. But hey,

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look at we've been warned that we were heading down

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this path, and now it's it's totally out of the closet,

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isn't it.

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It is it's been it's been around for ever, and

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that's the thing that irritates me the most.

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I mean, I'm really happy that they pulled.

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Back ninety nine million dollars worth of payments to dead people.

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That's wonderful that this administration at least is if they

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can't drain the swamp because of all the legalities and

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all the people coming against them trying to that least

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can shine the light on it. But ninety nine million

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isn't a lot of money compared to the rest of

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the fraud in it. I did a little research bill,

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and one of the things I found out is in

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the last ten years, there's been over two point one

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four trillion dollars in fraud alone. These are just fraud

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payments alone. Think about that with all the benefits that

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go out from the federal government two point one four

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trillion dollars, that's half of our debt. That means that

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our debt would be down to two trillion dollars if

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that money hadn't gone out. That means there'd be two

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trillion dollars in you're in my pocket and the rest

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of Americans because that's where the money came from, primarily

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from our pockets. You know exactly what can you imagine

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how that would help the average household?

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Yeah? Can you talk about affordability?

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Yeah?

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Yeah, Well, there you go that you're nailing it right exactly.

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I mean, this is and and of course Elon Musk

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when he first came to town, to d C with

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Doge and talking about the fraud and waste things that

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we've been talking about for decades. Mark, And and now

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we finally had somebody that was going to take a

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look see. And boy, I'll tell you, the the swamp

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moved quick, you know, to cover and invalidate him in

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such a way because you know, as they say in

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military terms, Mark, is that when you're over the target,

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the flat comes in and the flack was hitting Elon

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Musk and Donald Trump repeatedly, right.

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Oh my gosh. It was like alligators after red meat,

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wasn't it. They were just going to destroy them. And

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that's a thing that is really sad. I mean, think

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about this. This isn't due to criminals. I mean, yeah, criminals,

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A lot of criminals create the fraud. But the only

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reason they could do it is because the checks and

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balances aren't there. As you mentioned, Dose, remember in the beginning,

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they pointed out that there was literally hundreds of billions

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of dollars. I'll go with millions, even if you want

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to go there, if you think we can't prove hundreds

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of billions that went out without any indication of what

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this money was going out for, and much of it without.

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Who it was going to. That alone should tell you.

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After years of audits, warnings, repeated losses, our leaders can't

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be allowed to continue to say, oh, this was an oversight.

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We got to hold them accountable. Congress, we have to

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hold the House representatives accountable for this. When lawmakers know

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the controls aren't in place, and they're not requiring them

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to be put in place, that's the true fraud.

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Well, the incentives are producing the fruit that we have today.

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Just to your point, all this fraud and corruption has

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been incentivized, it's been ignored. I mean obvious things that

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have been going on and on, you know as we

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follow the money mark and I'm sure you've seen this

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as well, is that it's not just these obvious criminals,

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you may say, but the criminality involves elected officials because

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because when an elected official, when their number one job

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is to get re elected, come higher hell water, they've

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got to get money, and so they're selling their souls

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out in order to get re elected.

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Right absolutely, I mean think about this.

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A bill gets past hundreds of millions of dollars, billions

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of dollars is going to go out from the federal government,

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and they don't build in any checks and balances into that.

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They don't build in that.

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It is required that they do the basic accounting every

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b this in America have to has to do and

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report to the government. You know, if I pay somebody

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over six hundred dollars in a year, I have to

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send them a ten ninety nine so the government knows

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who got that money. Okay, But they don't have to

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do that with the money they're sending out to every benefit.

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They don't have to have a name on it or

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an organization. You don't, Bill, Let me, let me throw

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a scenario by you. You tell me if you think

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this is a possibility. Let's see the federal government, the

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House of represented as the Senate, they send out money.

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They to an NGO, then NGO sends it, disperses it

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to multiple NGOs. Those NGOs send it to nonprofits, and

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then the nonprofits end up not having to report or

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show where that money went, but it goes.

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What happens if some.

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Then that money goes back into the politician's pocket exactly

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as a candidate. Is that a possibility? Bill, Can you

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see that happening even in America. I mean, come on,

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it's even a child can see that happening, especially when

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Congress could legislation most of this fraud out of every

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bill they write. The idea that we are electing people

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who aren't smart enough to be able to do that

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is foolishness.

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It's not intell it's not an issue of intelligence.

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Mark That's exactly right.

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The bottom line is people do that which they get

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rewarded for, and the system has been set up in

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such a way that our elected officials are getting rewarded

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for the wrong behavior. This is why we the people

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must take our country back. We must take control of our.

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Countess amen to that bill, and that is so important.

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This message has to get out there. We're at the

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end of the leash now. Our debt is over four

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trillion dollars. I've heard numbers on the interest alone is

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over a trillion dollars. Think about that.

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Yeah, three military.

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Peers out of the taxpayer pockets going just to pay

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the interest on our debt. Okay, we can't sustain this.

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And once a dollar, once the debt goes over the

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cliff where we can't sustain it, the dollar will lose

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its place in the world as a currency for trade

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around the world. When it loses that, it will lose

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its power In the United States. Inflation will become hyperinflation,

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and we'll start going into a depression and it could

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take ten twenty years to get out of that.

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If we ever get out of that.

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People, I have concerns about communism and socialism taking over America,

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but the debt is the key that will cause that

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to happen if we allow it to keep going.

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The debt is now the reason for debt.

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The reason half our debt is fraud, and purposely, I

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mean purposeful fraud, not just not just the bad guys

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you know sitting in Nigeria pretending to be a prince,

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but in our Congress right now.

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Allowing this to happen.

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We have to elect godly conservatives that will put this

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country back on the path that God first ordained us

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to be on.

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You know, I believe in God.

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I believe our country was founded on the concepts of Christianity, capitalism,

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and freedom, and I believe those three together are very powerful.

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We're losing that because we've lost control and and you know,

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we can blame the House of representatives. We can blame

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the Senate, we can blame so many people, but when

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it comes down to it, we're a republic. We do

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the voting, We decide who goes in there. We have

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to hold them accountable. My predecessor to financial issues, dan Celia,

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he used to call them spineless weasels, and that's very

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important because we need to get the spinalless weasels out

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of there. We need to get people who are going

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to do the right thing, even if they don't get

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re elected. We need them to do the right thing

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right now because we're at the end of our We're

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going down a river towards the fall, and it's gotten

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to the point to where we can't back panel fast

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enough anymore.

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Millions of people of all ages have speech, language, or

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hearing difficulties. A new national poll finds that communication breakdowns

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frequently occur between caregivers and the people in their care,

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causing an array of potentially serious problems. US caregivers of

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adults with communication difficulties were polled. The American Speech Language

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Hearing Association ASHA commissioned the poll and Yugov conducted it.

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The poll revealed caregivers are concerned that communication breakdowns could

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hinder addressing medical problems and cause other safety issues that

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put at risk the health of the person in need

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of care. ASHA President Linda Rosa Lugo.

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Here from an audiologist or a speech language pathologist can

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improve daily life for those with communication disorders and for

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their caregivers as their doctor or others on their team

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at least in some capacity, and it can truly be

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life altering.

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While we're talking with Markmineloi's the host of financial issues

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and actually syndicated radio and TV program. You know, Mark,

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as you were just saying, is that, look at the

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system has been set up. It's been going on for decades,

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and it's it's rot front with the corruption and all this.

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But you know, like you were suggesting earlier, the problem

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is the man in the mirror. It's us because we

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keep electing these people into office. They are a representation

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of our own personalities, so there needs to be you know,

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Charles Finny would say that a revival happens when it's

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most needed this country, just like you know, when you

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look at the history of man, you get this cycle,

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particularly that's you know, clearly stated in the Book of Judges,

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where prosperity gets to the point where man gets so

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arrogant they start looking at things according to their own ways,

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and when they do that, they depart from godly principles.

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And this is where our nation is, is that we've

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looked at it because we've been very prosperous. Things were

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going hunky dory. The signs are there right now that

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we are in the danger zone, but we're not responding

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fast enough, so we may end up having to realize

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that gravity still exists. I keep telling people Mark, and

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that is immutable, and we're going to hit the ground.

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It's gonna it's and it's going to be hard, and

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it's going to be very painful, and the level of

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that pain will be in direct correlation to how quick

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we respond. You know. It's like I often use that analogy.

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Remember the pennzoil commercial. It says you could pay me

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now or pay me later. The inference was if you

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paid later, it was much more complicated, much more expensive.

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And this is where we are right now. Either we

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realize that this is a nation was born out of

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the principles. Like you said, there were godly principles. I

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believe that God's hand, divine guidance. Our founding fathers repeated,

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repeatedly said that this was the case. This was an

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absolute miracle the way our country was developed and brought

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into being and to become the world's superpower. This didn't

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happen because of George Washington on his own, or Madison

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or Jefferson. I mean, clearly, this was the hand of God,

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Mark right.

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It was the wisdom, it was the strength. It was

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the faith in these men, men that came from God

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that God used to to ordain this country, to allow

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us to have this country. We have a responsibility to

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steward our citizenship and elect the right people.

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And we need to do that, and we need to

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do it now. This election.

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I know you hear it every year. This election is

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so important. But guess what this is what could easily happen.

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And this is the way communists and socialists have taken

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over so many countries. Is first they destroy the country

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financially by promising all this free stuff to everybody. So

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those people who don't want to work, the lazy, the

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lazy in the country, those people who would just like

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to get just enough to get by, they vote those

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people in, not realizing that the next step that happens

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after communism stakes over is they line those people up

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and they shoot them. You know, you can get rid

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of them because they're unproductive, and the Chinese needs you

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to the communists and the socialists need you to be

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product so they can stay in power and be elite.

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So we have to watch this our debt our. If

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our dollar collapses in any way, that gives the socialists

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the opportunity to step in and start promising people, we'll

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give you all the food you need, the shelter and

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the clothes, and that'll last for a couple of years

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before they start lining people up and we start hearing gunshots.

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So we're near the end of the rope here, Bill,

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And I'm so glad you're out there preaching this and

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letting people know because this election, if you need to

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vote in the people that will change things. If if

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president Trump. If this administration had a Senate and a

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House representatives that would get behind him, they wouldn't just

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be shining a light and occasionally being able to recover

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this money. Remember, every time they tried to do anything,

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there's four hundred and thirty seven thousand lawsuits that go

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against them from the to me. So what if they

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had a Congress behind them, they could get these bills passed.

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They could drain the swamp. We could pull back on

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all this and get in a place to where we

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could start rebuilding America and away.

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Never seen before they've done that. Anyway. Let me let

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me share a couple things. Do you mind if I share?

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Since just since the.

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Beginning of this administration, since the peak of the last

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administration you talk. You mentioned affordability. You know, this is

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the big lie that they're putting on us. First of all,

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real wage growth all but one year of the Trump administration.

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Has been positive.

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Real wage growth means that wages have grown faster than

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even the inflation.

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Okay, so that's one.

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Secondly, they say, yeah, but still inflation. Once inflation hits,

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the prices don't go down.

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Let me share something.

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Lumber has gone down over sixty percent since the last administration.

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Televisions and appliances have gone down anywhere from twenty to

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thirty percent.

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Eggs are down any well, they were down more.

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But used cars and trucks are down over fifteen percent.

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Video equipment down over fifteen percent. Other furniture down over

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thirteen percent.

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I mean it just go.

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Computers, periphials, smart homeless appliances down over twelve percent. We're

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actualusly seeing the costs of things come down. But you

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don't hear that on the other news.

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You don't know because they're lying to us.

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Victom and buy into the government needs to take care

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of you. Well, there's enough, there's enough people out there

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who don't want to be productive, who want to be

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taken care of.

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That if if they keep telling this, they'll say, yeah,

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just take care of me. I'll be fine just getting by.

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But you won't.

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Because we know biblically, it's biblically sounded, it's emotionally sound.

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People are only happy when they're productive.

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Bottomne no, no question, bottom line. You're you're exactly right, Mark.

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And the thing is is that we have raised a

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generation that grew up with performance trophies. You know, if

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they if they scrape their knee. You know, everybody went,

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you know, catatonic, and you know, overreacted to it. We

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we've coddled a generation to where if they if they

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get a booboo, it's the end of the world, you know.

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And uh, and here it is. You know, they were

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told if you went to the right school and you

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indebted yourself, you know, a couple of hundred thousand dollars,

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you know that you were you were going to be okay. Well,

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here they go, they graduate, and they come out, they

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don't have a job, they're they're living with their parents,

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and you know, and you know they're not getting married.

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They're not.

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And then they've been told to expect to get a

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five bedroom, uh, five five bath, three car garage on

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three acres in the luxury part of town. When you

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graduate high school or college, you should expect what your

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parents work thirty five forty years to get. That's what

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they're taunting, because you're trying to destroy this nation, you

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know that.

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But the whole nation, you know, the whole economic system

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has been under attack, as you said, Mark, for a

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long time. They've been chipping away, you know, the cost

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of living inflation, even though there's there's been an effect,

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a positive effect here. But meanwhile, some of these things

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have been baked in the system, you know, housing regulations,

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government regulations, All these things have contributed. If you follow

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the money, and you see that our elected officials have

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all been part and parcel. And I don't mean to

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blame them all, but I'm just saying, is there's no

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light whatsoever being placed on them. You and I this

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is a rare conversation in uh in the cultural sphere

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right now.

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Now.

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That saddens me, Bill that it is, But I do

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thank God for you being out there.

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And there are a few others.

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And if we let our voices be heard and we

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continue to make it heard, maybe the selection will change

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the course despite the same.

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But the Save back, the say back, We've got to

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do something about holding the integrity of your vote. You

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know what, I.

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Am just astonished that the that the Democrat Party one

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hundred percent of the elected officials are fighting against the

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Saving Act. How is that possible that anybody would want

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to do that? You know, did you know that you

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had to get a special I D just to go

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to a restaurant during the COVID thing? Okay, but you

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can't get an ID to vote? Yeah, I mean be real.

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Uh you want you want to go to Obama's library, Yeah,

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you need you need an ID to get in there.

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Exactly. How about this one?

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I saw that somebody did research on the reparations laws

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that were passing in California and a state or two

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to try and pay some people because their great great

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great great grandmother was a selegh. Isn't it amazing that

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they can do the research to come up to ID

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themselves and trace it that far back. But the Democrat

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Party says they're not smart enough to be able to

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get an ID right now to vote.

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It is rich with irony, there's no doubt about it. Mark. Really,

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they're convinced that we're just stupid, you know.

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And the thing well, they are convinced of that, and

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they believe they're smarter than us, and they believe they

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can convince us of everything. And you know why, because

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of what's happened over the years here. But you know

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who got elected last It was Trump? You know who

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got elected before that, Trump? But they put invited anyway,

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you know who got elected before that Trump? And if

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you look at all this what's going on there's still

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there's still a remnant of very powerful. Remember that phrase,

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the silent majority. Yes, I pray and hope and I

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am believing that it's still there. This year, let's make

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that silent majority get vocal at voting booth.

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Yeah, they can no longer be silent. Our country is

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counting on you. We need you, We need you to

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come forward. Mark Manella. He's the host of Financial Issues,

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a nationally syndicated radio and TV program. Mark, how can

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our folks be in touch with you?

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Well, obviously, you can go out to Financial Issues dot

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Hey, good morning, welcome back Bill Martinez here along with

523
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Jenny Bev Martin from the Tea Party Patriots. Hey, Jenny Bev,

524
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good morning to you.

525
00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:27.920
Good morning.

526
00:28:27.960 --> 00:28:28.799
It's great to be with you.

527
00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:29.079
Bill.

528
00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:32.960
Well, we're down to less than one hundred days and

529
00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:37.359
the activity is picking up and our Democratic Republic is

530
00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:38.400
hanging in the balance here.

531
00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:42.559
Huh, Yeah, it really is, Bill, And we are recording

532
00:28:42.599 --> 00:28:45.400
this before we know the results in Michigan, so we

533
00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:48.240
don't know exactly who's going to be the Democrat nominee

534
00:28:48.680 --> 00:28:52.599
in the Michigan Senate primary yet. But what I have

535
00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:56.079
realized is it doesn't matter which of the two candidates wins.

536
00:28:56.200 --> 00:29:00.000
They're all the Democrat.

537
00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:01.720
You're talking about the Democratic candidatec.

538
00:29:01.400 --> 00:29:03.039
Yeah, the Democrat candidates.

539
00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:07.359
It doesn't matter because they're all extreme. We just this

540
00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:12.519
last week, I've seen both the former Vice president Kamala

541
00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:16.400
Harris and Pete Budacheck both saying that we need to

542
00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:20.799
abolish the electoral college completely, get rid of the electoral

543
00:29:20.799 --> 00:29:25.759
college it spanned the Supreme Court. And Pete Butacheck wants

544
00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:32.079
term limits on the Court. He wants some nonpartisan method

545
00:29:32.160 --> 00:29:35.400
or a balanced method for the number of judges or

546
00:29:35.440 --> 00:29:37.960
the kind of judges that are on the court. And

547
00:29:38.039 --> 00:29:43.000
then Kamala Harris wants to make Puerto Rico in Washington.

548
00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:42.880
D C.

549
00:29:43.480 --> 00:29:46.279
States. So when they try to seem like they're mainstream.

550
00:29:46.519 --> 00:29:49.440
They're not mainstream. They are four left.

551
00:29:49.720 --> 00:29:52.880
They're all far left in there.

552
00:29:53.319 --> 00:29:55.960
They may be saying socialism, but what they mean by

553
00:29:56.000 --> 00:29:57.519
socialism is communism.

554
00:29:57.559 --> 00:29:58.359
What they mean is.

555
00:29:58.440 --> 00:30:04.119
Destroy our constitution, representative democracy and replace it with a

556
00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:06.039
communist socialist government.

557
00:30:06.799 --> 00:30:09.400
You know, it might be interesting after all this said

558
00:30:09.400 --> 00:30:13.599
and done, Joe Biden letting in twenty million illegal immigrants

559
00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:17.039
coming from these third world countries that have been oppressed

560
00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:22.759
and have experienced socialism and communism, and here they are thinking, Hey,

561
00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:25.079
I got a golden ticket, I'm going to the Land

562
00:30:25.079 --> 00:30:28.039
of the Free, and I'm yeah, you know, it's just

563
00:30:28.039 --> 00:30:29.359
going to be so. And then all of a sudden

564
00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:33.720
it's like, oh my god, what I left is chasing

565
00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:37.720
me here in the United States and the benefit and

566
00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:40.920
I'm grateful for these immigrants. So regardless of how you

567
00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:43.519
feel about them, is they know the truth of where

568
00:30:43.559 --> 00:30:47.319
they came from, and they're speaking out Jenny Besh, They're

569
00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:51.240
telling everyday citizens you don't want to go there.

570
00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:54.480
Yeah, they are doing that, and I think it's very

571
00:30:54.519 --> 00:30:55.519
important that they do.

572
00:30:57.359 --> 00:30:59.279
We just don't have enough who are doing that.

573
00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:00.720
I think there are a lot lot of people who

574
00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:04.400
came here who want the free things that they can

575
00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:07.799
get from America rather than the freedom they can get.

576
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:10.079
And those who.

577
00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:13.160
Want freedom and want liberty, and understand what it's like

578
00:31:13.279 --> 00:31:18.119
to live in communist China or the Communist Soviet Union,

579
00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:22.559
or the former Communist Soviet Union, the currently just absolutely

580
00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:30.519
corrupt Russia, the communist communist Cuba. They understand what's at stake.

581
00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:33.519
And the few people who've been able to escape from

582
00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:37.279
North Korea and come and write books about it. I've

583
00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:40.880
written read a few books. There aren't a lot out there,

584
00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:43.359
but I've read a few books from people who've escaped

585
00:31:43.359 --> 00:31:47.839
North Korea. It's communism that led to an absolute, total one,

586
00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:53.079
totalitarian state, and that's what happens.

587
00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:56.839
It never works. Socialism doesn't work. It fails everywhere it's

588
00:31:56.880 --> 00:31:57.480
ever tried.

589
00:31:58.519 --> 00:32:05.319
Communism leads totalitarianism and antyranny. You can never have the

590
00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:10.680
utopia they hope to have because that utopia ignores human nature.

591
00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:14.680
In our system, we understand the flaws in human nature

592
00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:18.079
and try to create checks and balances within our government

593
00:32:18.519 --> 00:32:21.720
and through the market system to be able to keep

594
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:22.880
those in check.

595
00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:25.839
When you don't have that in a.

596
00:32:25.799 --> 00:32:28.359
System with liberty. You wind up with.

597
00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:32.119
A heavy fist, a heavy hand coming down in mandating

598
00:32:32.319 --> 00:32:36.000
everything that happens in every aspect of your life.

599
00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:41.200
Well, the history is, it's empirical, the evidence is there.

600
00:32:41.680 --> 00:32:44.279
It's do the people have ears to hear and eyes

601
00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:47.880
to see. You've got a lot of young educated people

602
00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:50.640
and of course they're being told, hey, you know we're

603
00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:52.359
going to get rid of your tuition, you know your

604
00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:56.319
tuition debt. Well, you can't blame them for being some

605
00:32:56.400 --> 00:33:00.000
sort of shining article, but you know something that's attracted

606
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:03.039
to them. I mean Joe Biden, how much student that

607
00:33:03.359 --> 00:33:06.799
he wipe out during his administration. And the fact of

608
00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:09.880
the matter is is that somebody is going to pay

609
00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:14.440
for this, and it will be leveraged on you know,

610
00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:16.160
one way or another. It's going to be on the

611
00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:19.640
backs of everyday tax people and the Democrats. All they

612
00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:22.680
know is to tax and to take away your money,

613
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:25.400
and they'll just be more of that to where you

614
00:33:25.480 --> 00:33:29.039
get to the point where as you suggested, it's shared misery,

615
00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:30.599
Jenny Beth, it.

616
00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:31.759
Is shared misery.

617
00:33:31.799 --> 00:33:34.240
It's a reach to the bottom, and there will be

618
00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:41.400
equality mostly under a communist system. That it's not equality

619
00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:45.440
it's equity. They'll be equity in that system. Everyone will

620
00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:50.960
be equitably miserable. Everyone will be equitably at the lowest

621
00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:52.119
common denominator.

622
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:55.240
I was going to say, welcome to the world of mediocrity, right.

623
00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:57.839
Right, That's exactly what it will be. There will be

624
00:33:57.880 --> 00:34:01.759
no incentive to do better. You actually will be punished

625
00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:07.599
if you do better. It's a terrible, terrible, terrible system.

626
00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:11.880
And you're right, people can open their ears and their

627
00:34:11.920 --> 00:34:14.280
eyes to hear and to see it.

628
00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:15.800
We have failed.

629
00:34:16.119 --> 00:34:20.519
Our education system has completely failed, and I think that

630
00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:22.760
we're seeing the.

631
00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:23.559
Results of that.

632
00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:29.719
The communist revolution shifted into our school system and has

633
00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:35.920
indoctrinated our young people and indoctrinated them and then not

634
00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:39.360
taught them other history, not taught them about the failures

635
00:34:39.400 --> 00:34:42.480
of communism, not taught them about the failures of socialism.

636
00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:44.679
So now it's up to us.

637
00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:47.039
We've got to make sure that we are teaching the

638
00:34:47.159 --> 00:34:51.119
younger generations, and by younger, I mean like thirty years

639
00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:54.000
old and younger, the danger.

640
00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:54.760
Of what they're trying.

641
00:34:55.039 --> 00:34:59.760
They're trying to aspire to, because it isn't an aspiration

642
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:01.480
they will be.

643
00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:04.079
It will be a disaster for our country.

644
00:35:04.159 --> 00:35:07.159
Everything that they love and they think that they want

645
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:10.280
to be able to accomplish, they will not be able

646
00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:12.519
to accomplish going down that path.

647
00:35:13.199 --> 00:35:15.480
Well, I'll tell you, you know, a lot of blame goes,

648
00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:19.519
no doubt, to the educational system. But unless we forget

649
00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:24.119
we as parents and grandparents have been culpable. The media

650
00:35:24.199 --> 00:35:29.039
has been culpable, no doubt about it. All the cultural influences,

651
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:32.360
the movies and all that sort of thing. You know,

652
00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:37.119
we have gotten so involved in living life but really

653
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:40.239
not training up a child in the things that are

654
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:43.719
critical to their well being, you know, once they're out

655
00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:46.639
of their homes. So that when they realize when they

656
00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:49.719
go to college and they realize that a professor is

657
00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:52.280
off the trail, that they can say, hey, I'm not

658
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:54.159
going to accept that I may need to go along

659
00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:56.639
to get the grade, but I'm not going to accept

660
00:35:56.719 --> 00:36:00.360
that lie. That doesn't work. And that's what we need

661
00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:03.800
to promote again, is critical thinking and discernment from the

662
00:36:03.920 --> 00:36:06.440
young people, because it's the young people buy and large

663
00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:10.280
that's buying into this, you know, socialistic doctrine because they

664
00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:13.079
don't know because just as exactly as you said, they

665
00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:15.280
haven't taught them and taught that there has been an

666
00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:18.639
interest for them to understand. But hopefully our conversation and

667
00:36:18.679 --> 00:36:21.320
others that are happening right now that we can speak

668
00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:24.199
to that. You know, even that silent majority has to

669
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:28.320
speak out because I know that in flyover America, as

670
00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:31.079
they traditionally refer to it, you know, they're looking at

671
00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:33.119
the TV and they see some of these talking heads

672
00:36:33.119 --> 00:36:36.039
and going, what is wrong with these people? You know,

673
00:36:36.199 --> 00:36:39.480
they're they're not us, and but you know what, they're

674
00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:42.119
part of America, and we've got to bring them up

675
00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:45.119
to speed and bring them along to you know how

676
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:47.760
great this country is, especially in light of this our

677
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:49.880
two hundred and fiftieth anniversary. Jenny Bev.

678
00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:53.639
Yes, we absolutely must make sure that we are bringing

679
00:36:53.639 --> 00:36:55.719
them up to speed. I think it's very interesting that

680
00:36:55.760 --> 00:37:00.280
you said critical thinking rather than critical social justice theory.

681
00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:04.320
The critical social justice theory is what they actually have

682
00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:10.119
been taught, and that is to criticize everything and to

683
00:37:10.199 --> 00:37:15.239
say that America is unjust and that things must be

684
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:18.480
adjusted in our society to equal out all of the

685
00:37:18.519 --> 00:37:22.480
problems that have ever happened anywhere in the entire world.

686
00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:27.360
You're right, it's up to us as parents, as grandparents

687
00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:32.599
to teach the children and our grandchildren about what is

688
00:37:33.320 --> 00:37:36.199
happening right now in America. I did my best to

689
00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:40.320
teach my kids, but it doesn't stop there. If you're

690
00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:44.039
interacting with kids, if it's your nieces and your nephews, you.

691
00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:49.239
Just explaining the harms of communism.

692
00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:52.840
It'splaining to find some videos that you can maybe just

693
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:57.559
bookmark and maybe it's on x maybe it's on Instagram,

694
00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:00.360
maybe it's on Facebook, maybe it's just on YouTube. Wherever

695
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:03.360
it might be some short little clips that you can benchmark,

696
00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:06.880
so bookmarks. So if they start talking about how they

697
00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:09.639
want free tuition or free this or free that, or

698
00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:13.760
free groceries from free government run grocery store that will

699
00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:16.039
require some sort of an ID for you to get

700
00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:19.960
the discount, then you can pull out a clip and

701
00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:23.840
show them somebody who who has survived socialism, who has

702
00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:28.039
survived communism, and just how dangerous and difficult it was,

703
00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:32.599
and how much America has made possible for them.

704
00:38:33.199 --> 00:38:35.880
Right, do you think that what happened there could not

705
00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:36.920
happen here in America?

706
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:40.199
Well, I think we're watching it happen in America.

707
00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:42.719
So that's my question to the young kids. You know

708
00:38:43.039 --> 00:38:45.800
to see this to get your thinking, that's right, what

709
00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:47.679
keeps America immune from that?

710
00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:53.239
Yeah, and I heard I've been reading the Politically Incorrect

711
00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:58.719
Guide to to Communism this past week and they'll say, oh, well,

712
00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:02.320
social socialism fails everywhere it's been tried, but it won't

713
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:02.840
fail here.

714
00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:05.159
We just had it wasn't done the right way.

715
00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:07.880
And the comeback to that is how many people have

716
00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:11.800
to die from socialism and communism before you realize it's

717
00:39:11.800 --> 00:39:12.840
a failed system.

718
00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:16.400
Because in the last century alone, over a hundred million

719
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:18.679
people died in the name of the isms.

720
00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:19.920
That's right.

721
00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:23.239
That is exactly right, and some of it is from

722
00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:27.360
sending people off to gulags and prison camps, and others

723
00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:33.519
are just because the system fails. People in a government

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run room cannot figure out how much grain you need,

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how much food you need, how many animals you need

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so that you can feed a population.

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It takes a market system to be able to do that.

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And because they fail at that, we wind up with

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famines that have made have made it where people die

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of hunger and starvation. It's a terrible, terrible system.

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Well, study will be realized with what's happening in New

732
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York thirty million dollars for each of one of these

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grocery stores that Mamdanie wants to build out. That will

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destroy the local economy. All these bodegas that have been

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around in New York, watch what happens with them. There's

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going to be a big price to be paid here,

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and there's going to be some suffering. This isn't going

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to be one of those things that we'll be able

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to recover in a couple of years. This could take

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ten years or so to recover if we're able to

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turn it back around, if they get a beach hold

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there in New York and in other cities across the

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country for that matter.

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Jenny Ben, Yeah, you're exactly right about that bill. It's

745
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going to harm the local grocery stores. It's not going

746
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to work. It's just not going to work. They're going

747
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to wind up having theft. They said they were going

748
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to have an idea, and then they said, no, we

749
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don't mean an idea, We mean a loyalty card to

750
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make sure that you qualify for the discount. Okay, so

751
00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:02.639
you're rationing everything, then that's what you're saying. You're rationing

752
00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:06.519
how much anyone can buy, so they can't go by

753
00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:08.719
as much as they might think they need for their family.

754
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You're going to ration that to make sure they don't overbuy.

755
00:41:11.719 --> 00:41:14.320
And it won't.

756
00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:17.079
It's just it will not work. And we can watch

757
00:41:17.079 --> 00:41:20.000
it and point to it as an example. But what

758
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a terrible place for this to have to be tried,

759
00:41:23.400 --> 00:41:27.880
in the greatest city in the world, the testament to capitalism.

760
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Exactly.

761
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Yeah, we have a lot of work to do. Bell,

762
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we have so much work to do.

763
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Well, you know what I love about this, and I

764
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know we're kind of stretching this out a little bit,

765
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:39.559
and I appreciate the extra time here, Jenny Beth, is

766
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that the same people that are resisting having IDs for

767
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people to vote are the same saying you need an

768
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identification card to buy food.

769
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Yeah, they're protecting the items in that store more than

770
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they're protecting ballots. Now they've come back and said it

771
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isn't really an ID. We're not going to require a

772
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photo idea, but they're requiring some sort of documentation and

773
00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:06.679
they're trying to protect the items in that store more

774
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than they care about protecting the ballot.

775
00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:09.519
That's what they're saying.

776
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So you can call it a photo ID, you can

777
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call it not a photo ID, can be a loyalty

778
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card whatever.

779
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You're more concerned about protecting the.

780
00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:19.760
Items in those three stores than you are about protecting

781
00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:23.320
ballots and ensuring we have free and fair elections across

782
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this entire country.

783
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Yeah, they're going to be shocked that people are smart

784
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enough to go get an ID to get food, but

785
00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:31.519
they're not smart enough to get an ID to vote.

786
00:42:31.559 --> 00:42:33.559
I guess there it is. Well, we have to leave

787
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it at that, Jenny Beth. How can people be in touch?

788
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Well, you can follow me on social media, Jenny Beth M.

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And then for all of the things Tea Party Patriots

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We're back with you. Bill Martinez here along with Andrea

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Barnes from numbers Usay, Hey, Andre, how we doing.

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I'm doing well.

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Hey, good to see you. As always in lots again.

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Up on that's happening on the beltwagh What is going

868
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on with the Smithsonian.

869
00:47:06.199 --> 00:47:10.519
They've taken a pro illegal approach to history instead of

870
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actually telling the real history. They're trying to put a

871
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legal immigrant activists who are trying to come to our

872
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borders through our borders illegally, put them on a pedestal.

873
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So the Trump administration called them out on it, and

874
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now they're starting to have to retract some of the

875
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things that they've written on their website.

876
00:47:32.760 --> 00:47:35.840
Well, this is amazing. I mean, they're using taxpayer money

877
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to propagandize the taxpayer.

878
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Exactly.

879
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And you know, when I have conversations with people about immigration,

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sometimes they really get into their feelings. And it's often

881
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because they've been programmed to think this way that it's

882
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okay if someone's like fleeing persecution and trying to come

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into the country illegally, as long as they're trying to

884
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make themselves a better life, you know, Like, but that

885
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doesn't jive with our laws, we cannot.

886
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Have an open border.

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And it is this propaganda that's happening with the Smithsonian,

888
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with our education system, that just happens when they put

889
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that information out there for people to consume over decades.

890
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Well, the narrative has been pushed silently for decades, right

891
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in our face and under our noses. All at the

892
00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:35.840
same time. Andrea's this idea that it's the oppressed versus

893
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the oppressor. So the illegal immigrants coming in and violating

894
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our border in our laws, they have justification because they

895
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are the oppressed by the oppressors. You know, how dare America?

896
00:48:50.639 --> 00:48:52.639
Who is like, now, wait a minute here, let's go

897
00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:57.559
back historically. You're the Smithsonian. How much money have you know,

898
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god fearing, you know, best of thinking taxpayers in our country.

899
00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:09.760
How much money have they contributed to poor countries around

900
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the world whenever they've had problems, there's been earthquakes, there's

901
00:49:13.239 --> 00:49:17.920
been issues, you know, migration needs or whatever. America is

902
00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:21.320
at the front of the line with food and services

903
00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:23.559
and money and everything like that. And you're going to

904
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negate all that and say that we are oppressors. Give

905
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me a.

906
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Break, exactly. And here's another thing, Barbara Jordan said this.

907
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She said, as a nation of immigrants created committed to

908
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the rule of law, this country must set limits on

909
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who can enter and back up these limits with effective

910
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enforcement of our immigration laws. So I want to highlight

911
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something because she said this country must set limits. Why

912
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is that bill, Well, we must set limits because we're

913
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committed to the rule of law, and that's going to

914
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be attractive to people from all over the world to

915
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come here by the millions. So if we don't have

916
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border policy, then everyone in the world's going to want

917
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to come here because we are committed to laws, and

918
00:50:13.960 --> 00:50:15.840
those people are going to want to come here, whether

919
00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:18.119
they're here to do good or whether here.

920
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To do evil. Right, So we'll have to be committed

921
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to that.

922
00:50:22.280 --> 00:50:24.760
But you just said something that's absolutely critical, and that

923
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is that there needs to be a discerning issue to

924
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understand who is coming. I mean, I remember in the

925
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old spaghetti western movies we used to watch as little kids,

926
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you always saw him and go, well, you know, hey,

927
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you got the guys in the white hats and the

928
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guys in the black hats, and they'd always have that moment,

929
00:50:41.719 --> 00:50:44.000
you know in the movie where they say, hey, are

930
00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:47.079
you are you here to help? You know, are you know?

931
00:50:47.159 --> 00:50:50.760
Are you friend or foe? Right? Yeah, And it just

932
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seems that, you know, that used to be part of

933
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the ethos of the immigration system, that people would want

934
00:50:56.559 --> 00:50:59.920
to come here, they'd want to assimilate and take advantage

935
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of this opportunity. But what's happened with migration, and this

936
00:51:04.039 --> 00:51:06.239
has been a lot of things that have happened and

937
00:51:06.280 --> 00:51:09.199
have contributed to this over the years, is the immigration

938
00:51:09.360 --> 00:51:13.239
policy has been homogenized and kind of blunted in such

939
00:51:13.239 --> 00:51:15.760
a way that we're not asking if people are friend

940
00:51:15.880 --> 00:51:18.280
or foe at the border anymore. We're just saying, hey,

941
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oh a, come on in. And then next thing, you know,

942
00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:24.320
they're taking over cities like Minneapolis, I mean, And the

943
00:51:24.360 --> 00:51:27.360
thing that's amazing about this, I mean, consider the numbers here.

944
00:51:27.719 --> 00:51:32.880
Roughly eighty two thousand Somalis come into Minneapolis. In short order,

945
00:51:33.039 --> 00:51:37.639
they end up owning that city, and in another short order,

946
00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:42.039
they took over the entire state with eighty two thousand

947
00:51:42.440 --> 00:51:48.360
immigrants andre And they're not interested in assimilating. They're interested

948
00:51:48.599 --> 00:51:55.800
in reinventing Minnesota into Somalia exactly.

949
00:51:56.239 --> 00:51:58.559
And here is the thing.

950
00:51:58.960 --> 00:52:04.400
Our border policy has no credibility anymore. Our immigration border

951
00:52:04.400 --> 00:52:09.760
policy has no credibility, and Barbara Jordan also stated that

952
00:52:10.639 --> 00:52:15.280
immigration policy with credibility can be measured by this yardstick

953
00:52:15.639 --> 00:52:18.880
that those who should get in should get in, and

954
00:52:18.920 --> 00:52:23.880
those that shouldn't should not, and those that are deportable

955
00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:27.559
should be deported. We're not doing those simple things, and

956
00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:30.920
people are taking advantage of our system. Just look at

957
00:52:31.039 --> 00:52:35.840
the birthright citizenship ruling, Like if we just look at that.

958
00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:40.400
Ruling for what it's worth. The media killed.

959
00:52:40.599 --> 00:52:43.880
That ruling, and the way that they did it, they

960
00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:46.280
made it seem like it was something that it wasn't.

961
00:52:46.559 --> 00:52:49.920
It wasn't that we were trying to end birthright citizenship.

962
00:52:50.280 --> 00:52:52.519
It was that we were trying to deal.

963
00:52:52.280 --> 00:52:56.039
With the loopholes that people would use to abuse the system.

964
00:52:56.639 --> 00:53:01.360
And because of that we have this ruling. We're going

965
00:53:01.400 --> 00:53:04.639
to keep fighting it. But at the same time, this

966
00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:08.719
goes back to this mis education and the propaganda that

967
00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:12.559
we were talking about earlier that the Smithsonian's doing other

968
00:53:12.800 --> 00:53:14.840
organizations are doing it the same way.

969
00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:17.960
Well, that's the thing to consider here. It's not just

970
00:53:18.039 --> 00:53:21.199
the Smithsonian to your point exactly, there are a lot

971
00:53:21.199 --> 00:53:25.159
of outside interests that wants the destruction of America. They

972
00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:28.079
have been wanting the destruction of America ever since the

973
00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:32.559
Great American Idea came into being, right, Yeah, because it's

974
00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:36.519
the nature of man. There's the battle between good and evil.

975
00:53:36.960 --> 00:53:40.559
And you have something good, an idea that I believe,

976
00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:43.280
I sincerely believe it with all my heart, came from

977
00:53:43.360 --> 00:53:47.840
God himself. Otherwise, how do you have a country, you know,

978
00:53:48.119 --> 00:53:52.199
so rapidly become the superpower of the world. And all

979
00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:54.800
the good that we've done, have we done some bad things?

980
00:53:54.920 --> 00:53:57.559
We made mistakes. Well, Heaven helped me. Come on, we're

981
00:53:57.639 --> 00:54:01.119
human beings. Nobody's perfect here, all right, but put it

982
00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:03.920
on I'll put it on a measuring stick. And I

983
00:54:03.960 --> 00:54:07.960
got to believe the good outweighs the bad. And you know,

984
00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:10.880
we can debate about that all you want. But unfortunately,

985
00:54:11.199 --> 00:54:13.760
as you said, we've got to get everybody on the

986
00:54:13.760 --> 00:54:18.360
same picture. We've got to be the United States of America.

987
00:54:18.400 --> 00:54:20.199
And this is part of the challenge that we have

988
00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:23.119
right now with the media and some of these other influencers,

989
00:54:23.440 --> 00:54:27.320
is they don't think in terms of America. They're actually

990
00:54:27.519 --> 00:54:32.079
anti Americans, and so here they are, they're tearing away

991
00:54:32.400 --> 00:54:35.920
at the very soul of what made this country so

992
00:54:36.039 --> 00:54:39.239
great to begin with and what potentially could continue this

993
00:54:39.320 --> 00:54:42.599
greatness beyond our two hundred and fiftieth year birthday.

994
00:54:43.480 --> 00:54:48.239
Absolutely, and if we look at this situation with the Smithsonian,

995
00:54:48.599 --> 00:54:50.679
they're only telling one part of the history.

996
00:54:51.199 --> 00:54:52.760
I wouldn't have a problem.

997
00:54:52.400 --> 00:54:55.760
If they would also tell about the history of people

998
00:54:55.800 --> 00:54:58.679
who thought that we should also lower immigration. You know,

999
00:54:58.920 --> 00:55:01.960
the illegal grants that are activists that are complaining that

1000
00:55:02.000 --> 00:55:03.280
they're not getting into the country.

1001
00:55:03.280 --> 00:55:04.440
That's one side of it.

1002
00:55:04.800 --> 00:55:09.519
But on August third, nineteen sixty nine, this sorry, eighteen

1003
00:55:09.599 --> 00:55:13.000
sixty nine, this year in history, you had Frederick Douglass.

1004
00:55:13.079 --> 00:55:16.239
He had this speech that stated that we are.

1005
00:55:16.239 --> 00:55:18.760
Not quite free. That was the name of the speech,

1006
00:55:18.800 --> 00:55:23.599
we are not quite free. And he described the immigration

1007
00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:30.280
policy as a kind of Asiatic slave trade with a

1008
00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:34.480
view to supplant black labor in the South. So he

1009
00:55:34.639 --> 00:55:39.679
was seeing that they were importing all these Asian workers

1010
00:55:39.719 --> 00:55:41.800
in to replace black Americans.

1011
00:55:42.119 --> 00:55:43.320
What we're not doing.

1012
00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:48.519
Those people that seem to hate America or want to

1013
00:55:48.519 --> 00:55:50.960
have the open borders, they're not even concerned about their

1014
00:55:51.000 --> 00:55:55.920
own self interests or how that other Americans will be affected.

1015
00:55:56.199 --> 00:55:59.840
If we just bring people in large numbers into the country.

1016
00:56:00.320 --> 00:56:03.920
Yeah, what wing of the Smithsonian is dedicated to the

1017
00:56:05.400 --> 00:56:09.559
parents who have lost children at the hands of illegal immigrants.

1018
00:56:10.119 --> 00:56:13.039
Is there a wing at the Smithsonian that shows these

1019
00:56:13.119 --> 00:56:14.039
kids that have.

1020
00:56:14.320 --> 00:56:15.519
To you, there's not one.

1021
00:56:15.599 --> 00:56:18.599
There's not one mention of Lincoln Riley, There's not one

1022
00:56:18.679 --> 00:56:21.880
mention of any of the parents or the children that

1023
00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:24.159
have been harmed by illegal aliens.

1024
00:56:24.159 --> 00:56:24.480
No one.

1025
00:56:25.480 --> 00:56:29.360
They don't care about that. What they care about is

1026
00:56:29.400 --> 00:56:37.920
that they surmise that illegal immigrants are working towards changing

1027
00:56:38.039 --> 00:56:43.559
government policy, just like we did during the emancipation, women's

1028
00:56:43.599 --> 00:56:47.639
suffrage and the civil rights error. And they're saying that

1029
00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:50.559
this is happening now, that these people that aren't citizens

1030
00:56:50.599 --> 00:56:54.400
and can't vote are changing the government. So they are

1031
00:56:54.719 --> 00:56:58.679
linking these people up to moments in history that don't

1032
00:56:58.719 --> 00:57:03.519
even add up to or is equal equal to what's

1033
00:57:03.559 --> 00:57:08.440
happening now. So they're they're writing this narrative that absolutely

1034
00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:09.239
makes no sense.

1035
00:57:09.800 --> 00:57:13.559
Well, it's it's not an accident, it's an agenda. It

1036
00:57:13.760 --> 00:57:17.519
is a plan and purpose to deconstruct this great American

1037
00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:18.639
idea full stop.

1038
00:57:19.599 --> 00:57:24.159
Absolutely absolutely, and we have to we have to continue

1039
00:57:24.159 --> 00:57:27.280
to push back on it because if we don't, then

1040
00:57:28.000 --> 00:57:28.719
people are going to.

1041
00:57:28.719 --> 00:57:31.159
Take this narrative as a gospel. It's the Smithsonian.

1042
00:57:31.440 --> 00:57:34.679
I take my kids to the Smithsonian and we learn

1043
00:57:34.760 --> 00:57:37.440
a lot about history, but we have to be careful

1044
00:57:37.880 --> 00:57:40.599
because a lot of these exhibits they have an agenda,

1045
00:57:40.800 --> 00:57:43.679
and the Smithsonian is another organization that has an agenda

1046
00:57:43.960 --> 00:57:46.159
and a story of a part of history that they

1047
00:57:46.159 --> 00:57:46.679
want to tell.

1048
00:57:47.280 --> 00:57:50.360
Right, well, you're exactly right. It is the silent majority

1049
00:57:50.360 --> 00:57:52.559
has to speak up because, I mean, for all the

1050
00:57:52.639 --> 00:57:56.199
ruckus that's being caused right now, andre think about it.

1051
00:57:56.199 --> 00:57:58.719
It is a small it's a fraction. I mean the

1052
00:57:58.800 --> 00:58:02.760
dsay that's causing all kinds of nerves and gray hairs

1053
00:58:02.800 --> 00:58:06.599
across the country. The memberships one hundred and twenty thousand people.

1054
00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:10.960
That's it, Shamalia, I mean little Shamalia. They're in many

1055
00:58:10.960 --> 00:58:12.880
open I mean eighty two thousand people.

1056
00:58:13.559 --> 00:58:19.000
Absolutely, And there's that. And then the Smithsonian also has

1057
00:58:19.239 --> 00:58:23.199
like a curriculum that they're teaching the high school teachers

1058
00:58:23.199 --> 00:58:28.519
calling becoming Us And basically they're teaching teachers not to

1059
00:58:28.639 --> 00:58:34.679
use words like illegal illegals or illegal immigrant because it

1060
00:58:35.079 --> 00:58:39.480
causes tension. And they're they're saying that they shouldn't use

1061
00:58:39.519 --> 00:58:43.960
those words in the classroom. So now you see them

1062
00:58:44.199 --> 00:58:47.199
more of the agenda starting to develop and the Trump

1063
00:58:47.199 --> 00:58:48.800
administration they put signs up.

1064
00:58:48.840 --> 00:58:50.719
They can't chant physically force.

1065
00:58:50.480 --> 00:58:54.880
The Smithsonian to change the exhibits, but they have put

1066
00:58:54.920 --> 00:58:58.920
out signs leading up to the exhibits that say, you

1067
00:58:58.960 --> 00:59:02.480
know that highlight the things that they put in their

1068
00:59:02.519 --> 00:59:07.920
report about the errors in what they're presenting exactly well.

1069
00:59:07.960 --> 00:59:11.719
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1070
00:59:11.719 --> 00:59:13.000
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1071
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1073
00:59:18.880 --> 00:59:22.840
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1074
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1075
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Getting America back on track.

1098
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Bill Martinez Live.

1099
01:00:42.039 --> 01:00:43.880
Hey, good morning, Welcome. Good to have you with us.

1100
01:00:43.880 --> 01:00:47.039
Bill Martinez here with doctor Curry Myers. He's back with us.

1101
01:00:47.039 --> 01:00:49.679
Always an honor to have him here. He is the

1102
01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:55.920
applied criminologist, academic, academician, that's always a good fun word

1103
01:00:55.920 --> 01:01:00.159
to say, author, consultant, and retired sheriff Curry. Always to

1104
01:01:00.159 --> 01:01:00.639
have you with us.

1105
01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:01.159
How are you, sir?

1106
01:01:01.559 --> 01:01:03.079
I'm doing well. I'm glad you could say it.

1107
01:01:03.119 --> 01:01:05.400
I never can Well, yeah, yeah, but you put it

1108
01:01:05.400 --> 01:01:13.679
in your Yeah, it's good fun. Well, thank you, you're successful. Okay. So,

1109
01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:16.360
now that we got that out of the way, eager

1110
01:01:16.400 --> 01:01:18.119
to talk about what you just wrote about, and that

1111
01:01:18.280 --> 01:01:21.880
is that behavior leaves evidence. What doctor Vacci's covid era

1112
01:01:22.039 --> 01:01:26.639
diary can teach us about investigative thinking, right.

1113
01:01:27.320 --> 01:01:29.960
Yeah, exactly. I mean when law enforcement officers and I

1114
01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:33.920
spent thirty six years in counting towards the business, I

1115
01:01:33.960 --> 01:01:38.719
was twenty four years on the job as a police officer,

1116
01:01:38.880 --> 01:01:46.960
different levels, worked many homicides and public corruption cases, and

1117
01:01:47.320 --> 01:01:51.960
always you're looking for a motive, and motive plays an

1118
01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:54.239
important tool. And the one of the ways you find

1119
01:01:54.239 --> 01:01:57.159
motive is through evidence. Looking at evidence, and this includes

1120
01:01:57.280 --> 01:02:00.159
documents that you find in a search warrant see and

1121
01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:04.000
documents can be of many different things, to include people's

1122
01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:04.639
own words.

1123
01:02:04.760 --> 01:02:04.960
Bill.

1124
01:02:05.119 --> 01:02:07.719
So, I mean when somebody writes something down or often

1125
01:02:07.840 --> 01:02:12.360
videotapes or in today's use of social media, you go

1126
01:02:12.440 --> 01:02:16.760
over social media applications and you'll actually find out behaviors

1127
01:02:16.760 --> 01:02:20.679
and instincts because what happens Bill, over time, people will

1128
01:02:20.719 --> 01:02:23.239
fall back to what they know best and what they

1129
01:02:23.280 --> 01:02:26.920
do and what really is inside their own ethos, if

1130
01:02:26.960 --> 01:02:29.840
you will, from a personality and behavioral point of view.

1131
01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:35.719
So when you determine that, the important reason you want

1132
01:02:35.719 --> 01:02:38.639
to use it as an investigator as you're gathering information.

1133
01:02:39.599 --> 01:02:42.559
Just because somebody said something doesn't mean that that's an

1134
01:02:42.639 --> 01:02:45.920
advocation of guilt, of course, but it leads us to

1135
01:02:46.679 --> 01:02:51.639
wonder why and how and when and answer those questions

1136
01:02:51.679 --> 01:02:54.960
and then be able to use them to do very

1137
01:02:55.000 --> 01:02:59.599
good interview techniques and then be able to come up

1138
01:02:59.679 --> 01:03:03.880
with better idea of what's inside the person's mind when

1139
01:03:03.920 --> 01:03:07.760
they were doing something. And so Fuci's diary, which he

1140
01:03:07.840 --> 01:03:11.719
probably never envisioned that it would be released to the public,

1141
01:03:12.599 --> 01:03:16.800
but it has gives us some important information. Again, it's

1142
01:03:16.800 --> 01:03:19.599
not an indication of guilt of some one thing or another,

1143
01:03:20.119 --> 01:03:23.719
but it tells us a lot about the person and

1144
01:03:23.880 --> 01:03:26.519
what their behaviors are and what kind of things that

1145
01:03:26.599 --> 01:03:28.440
could lead up to as a result.

1146
01:03:28.719 --> 01:03:33.719
Right, I've often said that people's self indict yeah, all

1147
01:03:33.760 --> 01:03:36.400
the time, right, I mean, if you just listen and

1148
01:03:36.760 --> 01:03:40.880
here it is because it is who they are. Just again,

1149
01:03:41.119 --> 01:03:47.000
in terms of you know, your background and your work

1150
01:03:47.280 --> 01:03:51.280
as a sheriff, you know, we often hear motive defined

1151
01:03:51.440 --> 01:03:53.760
for our audience. When you say motive, what do you

1152
01:03:53.840 --> 01:03:54.719
mean by motive?

1153
01:03:55.800 --> 01:03:59.480
I'm looking at reasons why somebody may take the position

1154
01:03:59.559 --> 01:04:02.599
that they do in a particular case, So motive can

1155
01:04:02.639 --> 01:04:06.239
be think of the Seven Deadly Sins as an example.

1156
01:04:06.280 --> 01:04:10.000
I like to put framework things according to faith sometimes,

1157
01:04:10.840 --> 01:04:13.400
but motive can be why is the why is a

1158
01:04:13.440 --> 01:04:16.760
person doing this? And there's all kinds of reason. There's greed,

1159
01:04:17.679 --> 01:04:22.199
there's sloth. They may commit it because that ring. There's jealousy,

1160
01:04:22.840 --> 01:04:25.880
there's lust. There's all kinds of reason why. But the

1161
01:04:25.960 --> 01:04:29.679
number one thing that always comes back to me is

1162
01:04:29.760 --> 01:04:34.320
the adage follow the money right, And when you follow

1163
01:04:34.320 --> 01:04:37.199
the money, then you come up with pretty good ideas

1164
01:04:37.280 --> 01:04:40.320
of what the criminal intent is. And sometimes you can

1165
01:04:40.360 --> 01:04:43.440
have a couple of different motives that blend in together.

1166
01:04:44.079 --> 01:04:49.280
And so in this particular case, again there is information

1167
01:04:49.800 --> 01:04:52.039
that are contained within the writings and what he has

1168
01:04:52.079 --> 01:04:57.039
said personally that could lend to some sort of motive. Now, again,

1169
01:04:57.199 --> 01:05:00.800
motive doesn't mean guilt. It just means it's opening a

1170
01:05:00.880 --> 01:05:04.519
door for us as investigators to peer in and when

1171
01:05:04.559 --> 01:05:08.840
then you'll start gathering evidence and information, and then that

1172
01:05:08.920 --> 01:05:12.400
will help determine whether or not the person needs to

1173
01:05:12.440 --> 01:05:17.920
be completely investigated, which I believe he does. I'm not

1174
01:05:17.960 --> 01:05:21.000
saying he's guilty of something, but there is enough there

1175
01:05:22.079 --> 01:05:25.679
for any kind of investigator to say, I need to

1176
01:05:25.719 --> 01:05:28.960
know more about this. And we do know Bill that

1177
01:05:29.000 --> 01:05:34.079
he has made money off of COVID nineteen, and he

1178
01:05:34.119 --> 01:05:39.840
has made faint off of COVID nineteen that has resulted

1179
01:05:39.920 --> 01:05:44.519
in profitability for him. And then, you know, don't ever

1180
01:05:44.559 --> 01:05:50.920
forget pride. Pride is the number one sin that most

1181
01:05:50.920 --> 01:05:55.000
people commit, and that pride can lead to some culpability

1182
01:05:55.039 --> 01:05:57.480
when it comes to criminal intent as well, or trying

1183
01:05:57.480 --> 01:06:01.480
to especially cover up something so you could do something

1184
01:06:01.960 --> 01:06:05.679
that is a mistake, an accident. Maybe you thought it

1185
01:06:05.679 --> 01:06:10.199
would was purpose purposeful, but didn't realize the unattended consequence

1186
01:06:11.119 --> 01:06:12.960
of your actions, and then all of a sudden, when

1187
01:06:13.000 --> 01:06:17.000
you realize that something did happen, sometimes the bigger crime

1188
01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:18.559
that occurs is the cover up.

1189
01:06:18.920 --> 01:06:23.559
Yeah, when it metastasizes, absolutely, absolutely, yeah, Yeah, this is

1190
01:06:23.599 --> 01:06:26.079
the thing. You know, I thought it was interesting one

1191
01:06:26.119 --> 01:06:30.440
hundred and eleven times doctor Fauci took the fifth, you know,

1192
01:06:30.679 --> 01:06:35.239
And I guess in part we can understand that I

1193
01:06:35.960 --> 01:06:37.880
thought at one point I thought, well, maybe what the

1194
01:06:37.920 --> 01:06:41.480
senators how to do is ask a question and let

1195
01:06:41.480 --> 01:06:43.119
the diary answer the question.

1196
01:06:43.639 --> 01:06:47.079
Yeah. Yeah, of course he wasn't going to answer, and

1197
01:06:47.960 --> 01:06:51.639
which I was surprised because he has been very forthcoming

1198
01:06:51.760 --> 01:06:56.199
in previous interviews and again part of his interviews he

1199
01:06:56.840 --> 01:07:00.920
has demonstrated his behavior, Bill, I mean, his behaviors or

1200
01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:06.239
are almost like the entries into the diary, you know,

1201
01:07:06.480 --> 01:07:11.079
and how he acts. But I actually thought for him

1202
01:07:11.280 --> 01:07:15.599
taking the fifth, which is his right to do, but

1203
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he has demonstrated openness before, and now all of a

1204
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sudden taking the fifth on the same subject subject matter

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gives me pause for concern. He has every right to

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do so. I in fact, an attorney would have probably

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told him to do the same thing. However he hasn't

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done it in the past, and that again shows a

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particular behavior. Now, I think the senators were able to

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which a lot of them are lawyers, and many of

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them have actually appeared in court. They understand the premise

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behind it, and they answered. They asked many questions right,

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and then they answered those questions for him in many.

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Ways, sometimes just asking the questions curry.

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Right, sometimes just asking the questiones and let it let it.

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I I when I train young police officers or students

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in my class, I always recommend us being quiet as

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often as we can. I think police officers the best investigators.

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It's the mantra that I often followed is that you

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ask a question, they need to be open ended because

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you don't want to give something to narrow You want

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to have them fill in the color behind the numbers,

1223
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if you will. You want to have them go with it,

1224
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and then you start asking follow up questions that can

1225
01:08:36.720 --> 01:08:40.239
start narrowing things down. After you open the you have

1226
01:08:40.319 --> 01:08:43.479
these open ended questions, and I think they were able

1227
01:08:43.520 --> 01:08:46.760
to ask some of those, But they also ask questions

1228
01:08:46.800 --> 01:08:48.640
like what's the color of your tie?

1229
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Right?

1230
01:08:50.079 --> 01:08:50.279
Yeah?

1231
01:08:50.279 --> 01:08:50.680
And the re.

1232
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Yeah, go ahead.

1233
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Well, the reason they're doing that is they're showing there

1234
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is no Fifth Amendment protection on the color of one's tie.

1235
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Mm hmm.

1236
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It's simply a question that can be asked. There's you're

1237
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not going to be arrested or you're not going to

1238
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be charged because you answered.

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Green or build time.

1240
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If he has a blue tie and he says green,

1241
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it's not like you're you know you're going to be

1242
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arrested for those things. But what they're doing there, in

1243
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my opinion, is trying to show evidence that his Fifth

1244
01:09:21.279 --> 01:09:26.640
Amendment protection is bogus. So and there is an argument

1245
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federally on whether or not someone can take the Fifth

1246
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Amendment if they've been given immunity, which and that was

1247
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supposedly has.

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Yeah, that was a question I had.

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and author of the Advent of feral Man. He is

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the applied criminologist, academician, academic. There we go again. I'm

1333
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I was bound, a determined. I said, I'm going to

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hit it this time because we could be here for

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a while, ladies and gentlemen. But academician, author, consultant and

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retired sheriff.

1337
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Uh.

1338
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Yeah, that was my question. And I talked to a

1339
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couple of other attorneys about this because my understanding. I'm

1340
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not an attorney, but my understanding was, once you're given

1341
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a pardon, then you can't exercise a Fifth Amendment right.

1342
01:14:47.880 --> 01:14:52.000
The other thing was it was interesting that he came in,

1343
01:14:52.119 --> 01:14:55.840
he provided an open statement, and there's questions on whether

1344
01:14:55.920 --> 01:14:58.079
or not when you come in and you provide an

1345
01:14:58.079 --> 01:15:03.319
opening statement, if that ends up compromising your Fifth Amendment

1346
01:15:03.399 --> 01:15:07.680
right because you're not allowed, according to Senate rules, to

1347
01:15:07.760 --> 01:15:09.680
come in and make a statement and then claim a fifth.

1348
01:15:10.439 --> 01:15:11.880
That's right, you can't have but you can't have it

1349
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both ways. You can't offer your innocence in a statement

1350
01:15:17.159 --> 01:15:19.760
which basically he was you know he was doing, and

1351
01:15:19.760 --> 01:15:22.439
then turned around and take the fifth after that. So

1352
01:15:22.840 --> 01:15:25.600
and that's in total conflict with the fact that he's

1353
01:15:26.119 --> 01:15:29.159
been given immunity because of his pardon. Now, the interesting

1354
01:15:29.239 --> 01:15:32.159
part on the pardon is it was a pardon for

1355
01:15:32.239 --> 01:15:35.359
anything that could happen in the future, which I've never

1356
01:15:35.399 --> 01:15:38.560
heard of before. I don't think it's ever been done.

1357
01:15:38.640 --> 01:15:41.520
Future or the past. I think it went from twenty fourteen.

1358
01:15:42.199 --> 01:15:46.279
I think it even said in for future actions against him.

1359
01:15:46.279 --> 01:15:47.159
I think I may be.

1360
01:15:47.239 --> 01:15:49.239
Wrong, but I think, yeah, I didn't.

1361
01:15:49.359 --> 01:15:52.039
I thought it was preemptive. I believe it was a

1362
01:15:52.039 --> 01:15:56.119
preemptive pardon. Now you'll have to correct me if I'm wrong,

1363
01:15:56.199 --> 01:15:58.960
but I think it was. There was some preemptive language,

1364
01:15:58.960 --> 01:16:01.720
which I never known that to happen.

1365
01:16:02.039 --> 01:16:04.319
Well, because if you do preempted and preemptive, then you

1366
01:16:04.359 --> 01:16:07.239
can say, all right, he goes out and murders somebody,

1367
01:16:07.520 --> 01:16:11.479
well I've got you know, I've got presidential immunity. Well wait,

1368
01:16:12.319 --> 01:16:14.720
you know, so that's a little bizarre, but I know

1369
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that it went back to twenty fourteen, to the last

1370
01:16:17.720 --> 01:16:20.960
day of the administration, and this was signed. And of

1371
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course there's the question about the auto pen and all

1372
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that goes.

1373
01:16:24.359 --> 01:16:25.840
On in the legality behind him.

1374
01:16:25.920 --> 01:16:27.960
Yah, not to mention the fact that you already had

1375
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a president that Robert Herr, the special prosecutor, said that

1376
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he was you know, mentally, how do you want to

1377
01:16:34.479 --> 01:16:38.560
say it compromise, Let's let's leave it at that. He couldn't.

1378
01:16:38.960 --> 01:16:44.119
He couldn't, you know, withstand scrutiny or a trial. But

1379
01:16:44.159 --> 01:16:47.439
he's the president and somehow he has the ability to

1380
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sign a pardon.

1381
01:16:49.680 --> 01:16:52.560
Yeah. No, there's no doubt about it. And the auto

1382
01:16:52.640 --> 01:16:56.199
pen should never be used for those kinds of pardons.

1383
01:16:56.279 --> 01:16:59.239
I mean, it's number one Biden. A lot of people

1384
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don't realize that Biden's did a couple of thousand more

1385
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pardons than I'm talking about, multiple thousands of pardons above

1386
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any other president in the history of the United States.

1387
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And they were all done by autopen. They were not

1388
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done by his name, which again lends somebody to believe

1389
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he wasn't really the one given the pardons. Whoever is how.

1390
01:17:20.079 --> 01:17:22.520
Could you sign off on those even if you got

1391
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to consider the amount of time it takes to consider

1392
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the offering, right, sure, and then you have to sign,

1393
01:17:28.000 --> 01:17:31.560
and he signed supposedly over four thousand pardons. How was

1394
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that even possible in the amount of time in which

1395
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these supposedly had occurred, which was I think over maybe

1396
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if we give them the benefit of doubt, say over

1397
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the last week or.

1398
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Two, especially because it was over the last week or two.

1399
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I mean it was not over the four years of

1400
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his presidency. The last couple of weeks is when we

1401
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saw the volume of pardons. He had given a lot

1402
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more than most prior to that, but the vast majority

1403
01:17:57.720 --> 01:18:00.119
that came in and there is a pardon attorney that

1404
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has been put on the witness stand to ask about

1405
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the kind of pardons that she participated in, and it

1406
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sounds like she was just carte blanche making those pardons

1407
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and the President was just signing off on them, as

1408
01:18:15.199 --> 01:18:19.079
opposed to discerning whether or not the pardon attorney was

1409
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correct or not. So the Senate has interviewed her and

1410
01:18:23.800 --> 01:18:26.680
we've seen some disparities in the way she answered those

1411
01:18:26.800 --> 01:18:27.760
questions as well.

1412
01:18:28.319 --> 01:18:31.239
Yeah, well, we'll be curious to see. I don't think

1413
01:18:31.239 --> 01:18:33.680
that they will. I would be surprised if any of

1414
01:18:33.760 --> 01:18:38.159
those partons were reversible. But you're probably looking at something,

1415
01:18:38.279 --> 01:18:42.079
you know, going forward to say, Okay, Congress is going

1416
01:18:42.119 --> 01:18:44.479
to step in and it'll probably go to the Supreme

1417
01:18:44.520 --> 01:18:46.720
Court to say there's got to be some limitations on this.

1418
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And you know, and so especially that's one of the

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things that you know, I mean Joe Biden really, I

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mean you talk about breaking the ceiling. Joe Biden broke

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the ceiling in so many areas, whether it had to

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do with immigration, you know, certainly what happened in the

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executive branch and some of the things that he did.

1424
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Going back to what we were talking about earlier, and

1425
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as you were stating, Curry, is that, you know, for investigations,

1426
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it doesn't start with you know, with the proof. You're

1427
01:19:14.319 --> 01:19:18.000
asking questions. You're trying to put a circle around the

1428
01:19:18.119 --> 01:19:21.000
issue and to ask questions so you can drill down

1429
01:19:21.039 --> 01:19:22.560
and really get down to the motive.

1430
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Right, The vast majority of crimes that are investigated start

1431
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out with what is going on here, as opposed to

1432
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some evidence saying a crime has already happened, And so

1433
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you look at those indications on why something happens, and

1434
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then you dive into it further until you have additional evidence,

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and then you start diving even more until you have

1436
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probable cause where you're able to get search warrants to

1437
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open more doors, and it keeps leading down a road. Now,

1438
01:19:51.520 --> 01:19:54.359
the interesting part on these is you get in I

1439
01:19:54.960 --> 01:19:57.279
did add a section and you're probably going to ask

1440
01:19:57.319 --> 01:20:02.680
on it about the ability in the medical community to

1441
01:20:03.119 --> 01:20:08.159
commit criminal acts, and it's probably your listeners and viewers

1442
01:20:08.840 --> 01:20:12.920
do not understand that the biggest killers in the world

1443
01:20:13.680 --> 01:20:17.359
have been associated with the medical community. If you look

1444
01:20:17.399 --> 01:20:21.239
at the largest number of serial killers that have ever occurred,

1445
01:20:21.920 --> 01:20:26.319
they the top ones have been doctors or nurses, and

1446
01:20:26.399 --> 01:20:29.279
you very seldom hear that. You hear the ones that

1447
01:20:30.720 --> 01:20:36.520
stalked behind a closed room or came out of an entryway,

1448
01:20:37.479 --> 01:20:40.039
or walked around a corner in the middle of the

1449
01:20:40.279 --> 01:20:44.760
night that you seldom remember the ones that were nurses

1450
01:20:44.880 --> 01:20:49.640
that gave inoculations that were purposely done to them because

1451
01:20:49.640 --> 01:20:53.159
they wanted to have this feeling of power of potentially

1452
01:20:53.239 --> 01:20:57.159
saving somebody's life, or they like to see people grieve,

1453
01:20:57.359 --> 01:21:02.000
which is sadistic behavior. So those are some of the

1454
01:21:02.079 --> 01:21:06.680
dark psychological traits that you can see. So you know

1455
01:21:07.239 --> 01:21:10.640
the question I have as an investigator, at what point

1456
01:21:10.680 --> 01:21:14.119
does research and somebody who has total control over research

1457
01:21:14.760 --> 01:21:18.720
and the ability to profit from it and other things

1458
01:21:19.319 --> 01:21:22.479
have an impact on whether or not a massed number

1459
01:21:22.479 --> 01:21:26.119
of people have been killed, you know, as a result

1460
01:21:26.159 --> 01:21:29.039
of that work. Now again, I'm not saying it has happened.

1461
01:21:29.840 --> 01:21:32.319
I'm not saying he is guilty of that. What I

1462
01:21:32.359 --> 01:21:36.039
am saying is it needs to be investigated.

1463
01:21:37.560 --> 01:21:40.600
Well when you consider the facts as we know him now,

1464
01:21:40.720 --> 01:21:43.760
and we've known him for a while. We've been reporting

1465
01:21:43.800 --> 01:21:46.800
on this now for what the last four or five years.

1466
01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:52.880
You know, President Obama supposedly had told doctor Fauci do

1467
01:21:53.000 --> 01:21:57.199
not get involved with the Wuhan lab. But he went

1468
01:21:57.199 --> 01:22:02.720
ahead and did it anyway, and invested and invested taxpayer

1469
01:22:02.800 --> 01:22:06.520
money to do this. Ultimately, it is all taxpayer money.

1470
01:22:06.600 --> 01:22:09.640
Wasn't wasn't like doctor Falabauchi wrote a check, you know,

1471
01:22:10.159 --> 01:22:12.479
that was one thing. He always used other people's money,

1472
01:22:12.560 --> 01:22:15.439
used the taxpayer's money, and did it. And then uh

1473
01:22:15.960 --> 01:22:18.600
and then and then supposed there was a team from

1474
01:22:18.760 --> 01:22:21.760
nih that went to China and said, these guys are

1475
01:22:21.760 --> 01:22:23.800
a bunch of cowboys, this is danger. You're you're going

1476
01:22:23.840 --> 01:22:27.399
to have a problem here, and so they all came home. Well,

1477
01:22:27.720 --> 01:22:31.800
doctor Fauci had to have a good idea of the possibilities,

1478
01:22:32.239 --> 01:22:36.159
but because of his lust and desire for science and

1479
01:22:36.319 --> 01:22:39.640
gain of function, which he had written about many times,

1480
01:22:39.720 --> 01:22:42.520
saying that he was an advocate of it, which was

1481
01:22:42.600 --> 01:22:45.439
interesting because to me, gain of function was just a

1482
01:22:45.560 --> 01:22:48.399
way to get around the idea of biological warfare, which

1483
01:22:48.399 --> 01:22:50.760
had already been outlawed. So they found a way to

1484
01:22:50.800 --> 01:22:54.399
skirt around that issue, and gain of function became the

1485
01:22:54.520 --> 01:22:57.880
order of the day. And so this happens, and then

1486
01:22:57.960 --> 01:23:01.039
he gives the wrong information because he's trying to cover

1487
01:23:01.119 --> 01:23:04.319
his rear end and I was shocked with Deborah Brooks

1488
01:23:04.319 --> 01:23:07.520
as well being involved. According to the diary, Okay, the

1489
01:23:07.560 --> 01:23:11.159
Deborah Brooks was all, you know, collusional with this and

1490
01:23:11.760 --> 01:23:16.039
talking about putting the president in a position of surrender.

1491
01:23:17.600 --> 01:23:21.000
Yeah, there's no doubt to your point. The evidence dictates

1492
01:23:21.039 --> 01:23:25.479
and emails and emails from doctor Fauci to others that

1493
01:23:25.760 --> 01:23:28.600
he knew of these things ahead of time, and there

1494
01:23:28.640 --> 01:23:31.119
was an issue and they were trying to get people

1495
01:23:31.159 --> 01:23:35.239
to craft a different Well, what about this possibility yeah,

1496
01:23:35.239 --> 01:23:38.199
this could have occurred, but what about this possible possibility

1497
01:23:38.560 --> 01:23:42.319
And he's saying it to people who, interestingly enough, would

1498
01:23:42.359 --> 01:23:45.720
be tied to funding from nias exactly. So you have

1499
01:23:45.920 --> 01:23:49.880
non government organizations NGOs, the famous NGOs that seemed to

1500
01:23:49.880 --> 01:23:53.000
be a pathway for a lot of criminality. We had

1501
01:23:53.279 --> 01:23:56.720
NGOs that were associated in the health and science field,

1502
01:23:57.279 --> 01:24:00.000
and they were the ones that were being finance money

1503
01:23:59.760 --> 01:24:01.840
and worse, they would take a percentage off the top

1504
01:24:02.279 --> 01:24:03.920
and then the rest of it would go to help

1505
01:24:03.960 --> 01:24:06.239
fund and they would be involved in the direct funding

1506
01:24:06.319 --> 01:24:11.359
of the Wahoon Laboratory with the Chinese government. Now the

1507
01:24:11.439 --> 01:24:14.640
question you have to ask again as an investigator, Okay,

1508
01:24:14.720 --> 01:24:19.760
what's the criminal conspiracy potential criminal conspiracy? There, there's documents,

1509
01:24:19.800 --> 01:24:22.079
there's evidence, there's a lot of things that we need

1510
01:24:22.119 --> 01:24:26.479
to get information about. But also we're going to check

1511
01:24:26.520 --> 01:24:29.560
whether or not doctor Fuci made money during this time

1512
01:24:29.600 --> 01:24:33.119
period from those NGOs that came back to him, or

1513
01:24:33.199 --> 01:24:36.359
came back to his family, or came back to some

1514
01:24:36.560 --> 01:24:40.119
other funding mechanism that he had a personal control of

1515
01:24:41.000 --> 01:24:44.520
which he made a percentage of whatever money it may be.

1516
01:24:44.920 --> 01:24:48.800
So those are the great questions that need to be addressed.

1517
01:24:48.840 --> 01:24:51.439
I think they are, but it's a matter of not

1518
01:24:51.600 --> 01:24:54.680
closing this door just because what I want to do.

1519
01:24:54.720 --> 01:24:56.840
And one of the reasons I wrote it, it's not

1520
01:24:56.960 --> 01:25:02.119
about the diary, It's about the case, and the diary

1521
01:25:02.399 --> 01:25:06.880
is an open door on behavior that helps an investigator

1522
01:25:07.119 --> 01:25:12.880
fill in some blanks on potential activities that could occur.

1523
01:25:13.439 --> 01:25:15.720
And it's going to help them be able to do interviews,

1524
01:25:15.760 --> 01:25:17.960
which he's probably not going to do because he's probably

1525
01:25:17.960 --> 01:25:21.119
going to seek counsel on him going forward. But it's

1526
01:25:21.159 --> 01:25:24.680
going to help understand why some of the why behind

1527
01:25:25.079 --> 01:25:29.800
the reasons that this pandemic occurred in the first place.

1528
01:25:30.520 --> 01:25:33.520
And as we started arrowing those things down, it becomes

1529
01:25:33.560 --> 01:25:36.920
a pretty large co conspiracy. And I think there is

1530
01:25:36.960 --> 01:25:40.760
and you know a lot of us who had the

1531
01:25:40.960 --> 01:25:51.000
we're labeled people who are conspiracy theorist. We have come

1532
01:25:51.079 --> 01:25:54.279
true and I have and I was one of those

1533
01:25:54.319 --> 01:25:59.560
from the very beginning that suspected some wrongdoing. I never

1534
01:25:59.600 --> 01:26:03.680
got the vaccine, never been tested, never even never even

1535
01:26:03.800 --> 01:26:06.000
went in to get you know, something stuck down my

1536
01:26:06.079 --> 01:26:08.920
throat to see if I've had COVID before. Now I

1537
01:26:08.960 --> 01:26:12.199
thank god that I didn't contract it and I didn't die.

1538
01:26:12.319 --> 01:26:15.680
I mean because they are people that did. Yes, because

1539
01:26:15.680 --> 01:26:19.159
it was a bad vaccine, especially early on, I mean

1540
01:26:19.199 --> 01:26:22.800
a vaccine. That vaccine ended up having his problems too,

1541
01:26:22.840 --> 01:26:25.159
But it was a bad pandemic, So I'm not saying

1542
01:26:25.159 --> 01:26:29.720
that it wasn't. But there is huge open holes with

1543
01:26:29.800 --> 01:26:32.520
this that have to be addressed, and we can't let

1544
01:26:32.520 --> 01:26:35.720
it just go bye bye because of whether or not

1545
01:26:36.039 --> 01:26:39.960
they can charge Faucy or not. There is other cases

1546
01:26:40.000 --> 01:26:42.239
that can be done as a result of that, and

1547
01:26:42.359 --> 01:26:45.000
those cases if you close the door and close the

1548
01:26:45.039 --> 01:26:48.239
loop on some of the co conspirators that are involved

1549
01:26:48.239 --> 01:26:51.359
in this, it's going to point back to doctor Fauci,

1550
01:26:51.880 --> 01:26:54.239
and then you can test the limitations of whether or

1551
01:26:54.279 --> 01:26:58.279
not his pardon is going to have that great wide

1552
01:26:58.399 --> 01:27:02.319
breath of protection that he thinks he might have.

1553
01:27:03.079 --> 01:27:07.000
Well. And the whole motivation here, doctor Curry Myers, is

1554
01:27:07.039 --> 01:27:10.800
that so it won't happen again. We do not get

1555
01:27:10.840 --> 01:27:13.960
down to the truth that there's not consequences, then we're

1556
01:27:14.039 --> 01:27:18.199
leaving the door open for this happening once again. Look

1557
01:27:18.239 --> 01:27:20.000
forward to having you back, because I know this is

1558
01:27:20.039 --> 01:27:22.680
going to continue, and you bring a lot to light

1559
01:27:22.720 --> 01:27:26.000
here in this initial draft here, So thanks for coming on.

1560
01:27:26.039 --> 01:27:29.479
Doctor Curry Myers, America's criminologist, retired sheriff and author of

1561
01:27:29.520 --> 01:27:31.880
the Advent of faroh Man. Thank you, Curry, Take care,

1562
01:27:31.960 --> 01:27:32.760
God bless.

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01:27:32.800 --> 01:27:35.640
God bless you. Appreciate you all' all you do.

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Hey, good morning, Welcome back. Glad you could join us.

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Bill Martinez here with doctor Ronald Weigel. He is a

1628
01:31:17.600 --> 01:31:21.319
medical director with the American College and Surgeons Cancer Program.

1629
01:31:21.399 --> 01:31:23.680
Doctor Wigel, good morning to you. Glad you could join us.

1630
01:31:24.079 --> 01:31:26.560
Hi, Bill, pleasure to be here. Thanks for having me

1631
01:31:26.600 --> 01:31:27.399
on your program.

1632
01:31:27.600 --> 01:31:31.239
Well, this topic is so important, especially for rural America,

1633
01:31:31.680 --> 01:31:34.800
and that we're finding, as we've kind of known, that

1634
01:31:35.159 --> 01:31:38.520
cancer is far deadlier in rural America. Right.

1635
01:31:39.239 --> 01:31:43.000
Oh, Absolutely, patients that are diagnosed with cancer in rural

1636
01:31:43.039 --> 01:31:49.039
areas have real challenges getting quality care. About sixty percent

1637
01:31:49.199 --> 01:31:51.920
of real counties don't have a general surgeon and two

1638
01:31:52.000 --> 01:31:55.119
thirds don't have an oncologist, and so there are challenges

1639
01:31:55.159 --> 01:31:59.399
getting high quality cancer care in real communities. But the

1640
01:31:59.439 --> 01:32:03.079
American Colleons Commission on Cancer is trying to change that

1641
01:32:03.279 --> 01:32:07.920
by rolling out a Rural Commission on Cancer accredation that

1642
01:32:08.600 --> 01:32:12.920
we believe will improve high quality care for patients living

1643
01:32:13.000 --> 01:32:15.039
in rural areas well.

1644
01:32:15.159 --> 01:32:18.359
Doctor, as you say, you know, it starts with understanding

1645
01:32:18.800 --> 01:32:21.960
what these rural communities have to deal with, you know,

1646
01:32:22.000 --> 01:32:25.760
when a cancer diagnosis comes into play here we're talking.

1647
01:32:26.039 --> 01:32:28.359
You know, for them, it could mean driving hours just

1648
01:32:28.359 --> 01:32:31.439
to see a specialist, sometimes several times a week. Fewer

1649
01:32:31.479 --> 01:32:34.159
than six percent, as you say, of us and colleges,

1650
01:32:34.239 --> 01:32:37.760
practice in rural areas, and an estimated sixty percent of

1651
01:32:37.840 --> 01:32:41.960
rural counties lack an active general surgeon. Well, thank god.

1652
01:32:42.000 --> 01:32:44.000
The American College of Surgeons says, We've got to do

1653
01:32:44.079 --> 01:32:44.960
something about it, right.

1654
01:32:45.600 --> 01:32:45.840
Oh.

1655
01:32:45.960 --> 01:32:50.279
Absolutely, It's a huge challenge, but we have solutions, and

1656
01:32:50.680 --> 01:32:54.680
we're hoping to work with community hospitals to be able

1657
01:32:54.760 --> 01:32:58.560
to provide the accredation to give them the tools that

1658
01:32:58.600 --> 01:33:02.520
they need to provide high quality care for patients in

1659
01:33:02.560 --> 01:33:05.279
those rural communities. So we believe we're going to make

1660
01:33:05.279 --> 01:33:10.279
a difference with this. We've done studies in Kentucky and

1661
01:33:10.319 --> 01:33:12.640
in Iowa that have shown that if we work with

1662
01:33:12.720 --> 01:33:16.800
hospitals in rural communities, work with them, get them accredited,

1663
01:33:17.319 --> 01:33:21.239
the quality of care that patients received after creditation is

1664
01:33:21.359 --> 01:33:24.039
much improved. And is in line with what they would

1665
01:33:24.079 --> 01:33:27.840
get if they were in a suburban or an urban hospital.

1666
01:33:28.199 --> 01:33:30.720
And so we're hoping that through the American College Assurgeons

1667
01:33:30.760 --> 01:33:34.399
Commission on Cancer, we can continue to improve care in

1668
01:33:34.479 --> 01:33:35.560
rural America.

1669
01:33:35.800 --> 01:33:38.199
Can we unpack that a little bit more here? How

1670
01:33:38.239 --> 01:33:42.760
does the accreditation improve cancer outcomes? And what is the

1671
01:33:42.880 --> 01:33:44.079
research telling us?

1672
01:33:44.680 --> 01:33:49.199
Well, So, what it shows is that we have evidence

1673
01:33:49.239 --> 01:33:52.800
based standards that we have created. What we do is

1674
01:33:52.840 --> 01:33:56.520
we have the National Cancer Database where all the data

1675
01:33:56.720 --> 01:34:01.840
is collected on patients who are treated Commission on Cancer hospitals,

1676
01:34:02.119 --> 01:34:04.680
and we use that data to be able to do

1677
01:34:04.800 --> 01:34:07.680
studies to say, Okay, what is it that we can

1678
01:34:07.720 --> 01:34:12.479
do to improve care that actually translates into improved survival.

1679
01:34:12.720 --> 01:34:15.720
It's a challenge with cancer because you're getting your cancer

1680
01:34:15.760 --> 01:34:18.319
care today, but we're trying to have an impact on

1681
01:34:18.399 --> 01:34:21.039
survival that you may not see for five or ten years.

1682
01:34:21.359 --> 01:34:26.600
So it's based on providing care that we know translates

1683
01:34:26.640 --> 01:34:29.640
into improved survival in five and ten years. And so

1684
01:34:29.760 --> 01:34:32.840
the studies that we have done and other people have done,

1685
01:34:32.960 --> 01:34:36.000
have shown that if you become accredited, you're much more

1686
01:34:36.119 --> 01:34:40.119
likely to provide care that's going to translate into improved survival.

1687
01:34:40.840 --> 01:34:43.399
I got to imagine for rural hospitals, this is a

1688
01:34:43.439 --> 01:34:47.039
great thing and a big relief in many levels. Right.

1689
01:34:47.399 --> 01:34:50.399
Oh, absolutely. I think hospitals that have gone through the

1690
01:34:50.439 --> 01:34:53.960
accreditation process have given us feedback that the American College

1691
01:34:53.960 --> 01:34:57.000
of Surgeon's Commission on Cancer has made a huge difference

1692
01:34:57.039 --> 01:35:00.640
in the quality of care. It raises the spirits of

1693
01:35:00.680 --> 01:35:03.520
the people there because they really feel like now they're

1694
01:35:03.560 --> 01:35:06.960
providing a level of care that's commensurate with the quality

1695
01:35:07.000 --> 01:35:10.319
that those patients would receive have they traveled hundreds of

1696
01:35:10.399 --> 01:35:12.520
miles to get care somewhere else.

1697
01:35:13.720 --> 01:35:17.960
Well, again, we're reminded that when you consider the impact

1698
01:35:17.960 --> 01:35:22.039
of cancer in rural communities, you know, the evidence is there.

1699
01:35:22.399 --> 01:35:25.279
You've got rates that are about fifteen percent higher in

1700
01:35:25.399 --> 01:35:30.800
rural communities, and sadly, that gap continues to widen, and

1701
01:35:30.880 --> 01:35:34.840
this is why the Commission has decided to do something

1702
01:35:34.840 --> 01:35:37.000
about it and to reverse this trend. Right.

1703
01:35:37.399 --> 01:35:40.199
No, absolutely, you're right. There have been plenty of studies

1704
01:35:40.239 --> 01:35:44.079
that have shown that patients that live in rural areas

1705
01:35:44.479 --> 01:35:48.079
are much more likely to die from cancer once they're diagnosed.

1706
01:35:48.560 --> 01:35:52.079
So what we're doing with the American College Surgeon's Commission

1707
01:35:52.079 --> 01:35:54.960
on Cancer is actually having a difference in that not

1708
01:35:55.079 --> 01:35:58.479
just recognizing that there is a problem, but finding a

1709
01:35:58.520 --> 01:36:02.520
solution to that problem. And so we're rolling out this program.

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01:36:02.520 --> 01:36:05.920
It's available now to rule hospitals all over the country.

1711
01:36:06.760 --> 01:36:10.199
Well, we're talking with doctor Ron Weigel. He is the

1712
01:36:10.239 --> 01:36:13.800
medical director of the American College of Surgeon's Cancer Programs

1713
01:36:14.119 --> 01:36:18.239
and Professor of Surgery, Surgical Oncology, and integrin Surgery at

1714
01:36:18.239 --> 01:36:22.600
the University of Iowa Carver College of Medicine. For the patients,

1715
01:36:23.680 --> 01:36:27.239
big relief, no doubt for hospitals, patients, it's got to

1716
01:36:27.279 --> 01:36:28.520
be huge, right, Oh.

1717
01:36:28.680 --> 01:36:29.359
Absolutely.

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01:36:29.560 --> 01:36:32.520
I think it gives the patients a peace of mind

1719
01:36:32.960 --> 01:36:35.239
and it gives the providers a peace of mind to

1720
01:36:35.399 --> 01:36:38.439
know that the care they're delivering is equal to the

1721
01:36:38.520 --> 01:36:41.359
kind of care that patient would receive if they traveled

1722
01:36:41.399 --> 01:36:44.279
hundreds of miles to a suburban or an urban hospital.

1723
01:36:44.640 --> 01:36:46.960
And so I think it's a win for the patients,

1724
01:36:46.960 --> 01:36:49.680
it's a win for the hospital. And studies have shown

1725
01:36:49.720 --> 01:36:55.399
that hospital volume actually increases and the bottom line financially

1726
01:36:55.439 --> 01:36:57.880
for those hospitals improve with accreditation.

1727
01:36:58.920 --> 01:37:03.600
Right, Well, I mean local hospitals in rural communities. I mean,

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01:37:03.800 --> 01:37:09.760
they're probably more community centric than other urban hospitals, don't

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01:37:09.760 --> 01:37:10.159
you think.

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01:37:10.479 --> 01:37:10.640
Oh?

1731
01:37:10.760 --> 01:37:15.039
Absolutely, because when you're in a small rural town, you're

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01:37:15.119 --> 01:37:19.239
treating your neighbor and the providers know that, so they

1733
01:37:19.279 --> 01:37:22.079
really want to do an outstanding job. They want to

1734
01:37:22.079 --> 01:37:25.600
do the right thing for their neighbors. And so our

1735
01:37:25.680 --> 01:37:29.720
program through the American College Dessurgeons Commission on Cancer allows

1736
01:37:30.119 --> 01:37:33.359
hospitals to improve the care that they're receiving and know

1737
01:37:33.439 --> 01:37:36.439
that they're providing the standard of care that those patients

1738
01:37:36.439 --> 01:37:39.199
would get otherwise at a larger hospital.

1739
01:37:39.239 --> 01:37:41.439
Doctor Wigel, how long have you guys been working on this?

1740
01:37:42.359 --> 01:37:45.359
Well, so we had a conference about two years ago

1741
01:37:45.920 --> 01:37:50.199
and we reviewed data that were developed from our studies

1742
01:37:50.199 --> 01:37:53.520
that were done in Kentucky and Iowa. We had a

1743
01:37:53.720 --> 01:37:57.399
group of leaders at the Commission on Cancer, people from

1744
01:37:57.439 --> 01:38:03.079
all over the country and also patients providers from rural settings,

1745
01:38:03.399 --> 01:38:07.359
and came up with the standards that we created and

1746
01:38:07.399 --> 01:38:10.720
the program was launched January of this year, and so

1747
01:38:10.880 --> 01:38:14.520
hospitals have called and are starting to become accredited. The

1748
01:38:14.600 --> 01:38:17.880
creditation process takes about at least a year because you

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01:38:17.960 --> 01:38:20.159
have to collect data for a year, put all the

1750
01:38:20.199 --> 01:38:22.840
standards in place, and then you have a site visit

1751
01:38:22.960 --> 01:38:25.920
to make sure that what you're doing in those locations

1752
01:38:26.239 --> 01:38:29.319
are in line with being accredited. And once you're accredited,

1753
01:38:29.520 --> 01:38:31.319
then you're reaccredited every three years.

1754
01:38:32.000 --> 01:38:34.840
I got to imagine for these hospitals and the patients

1755
01:38:34.840 --> 01:38:39.760
that go to these hospitals, hope has risen and they're thinking, Okay,

1756
01:38:40.600 --> 01:38:43.399
there could be light at the end of the tunnel

1757
01:38:43.760 --> 01:38:47.039
that the calvalry has come to help the cause.

1758
01:38:47.119 --> 01:38:47.319
Right.

1759
01:38:47.720 --> 01:38:50.520
No, absolutely, I think there's a tremendous peace of mind

1760
01:38:50.880 --> 01:38:54.079
that comes with knowing that the care you're receiving is

1761
01:38:54.119 --> 01:38:56.720
the same care you would have gotten had you traveled

1762
01:38:57.039 --> 01:39:01.439
to a larger academic medical center. I think that there

1763
01:39:01.560 --> 01:39:04.279
is a peace of mind. Like you said, the cavalry

1764
01:39:04.520 --> 01:39:05.239
has arrived.

1765
01:39:05.520 --> 01:39:09.520
Yeah, that's great. Well, as we wrap things up, doctor Wigel, again,

1766
01:39:09.600 --> 01:39:13.600
let's remind everybody of what is happening. I mean, this

1767
01:39:13.800 --> 01:39:17.199
is you're still I mean, we're what eight months down

1768
01:39:17.239 --> 01:39:20.159
the road in this program and rolling it out, and

1769
01:39:21.479 --> 01:39:23.680
you did answer the question I was thinking about, and

1770
01:39:23.720 --> 01:39:26.600
that is the response from the hospitals when they heard

1771
01:39:26.640 --> 01:39:30.479
about this accreditation process. They are responding, right, Oh.

1772
01:39:30.520 --> 01:39:33.720
Absolutely. We've gotten a lot of great feedback. The hospitals

1773
01:39:33.760 --> 01:39:36.640
are excited about this, and we're hoping to get them

1774
01:39:36.640 --> 01:39:39.720
all on board because there's clearly a need to have

1775
01:39:39.800 --> 01:39:44.760
more American College Assurgeons Commission on Cancer accredited facilities.

1776
01:39:44.119 --> 01:39:45.079
In rural areas.

1777
01:39:45.079 --> 01:39:47.800
If you look at a map in the US, most

1778
01:39:47.800 --> 01:39:51.439
of the credit hospitals are in urban and suburban settings,

1779
01:39:51.479 --> 01:39:55.359
but there's a tremendous need to have an increased accreditation

1780
01:39:55.880 --> 01:39:58.199
hospitals in rural settings.

1781
01:39:59.079 --> 01:40:01.239
Is there anything that the can do to help out.

1782
01:40:02.039 --> 01:40:06.159
Yeah, well, they can go to FACS dot org slash

1783
01:40:06.239 --> 01:40:10.319
real cancer and that. At that website, they can see

1784
01:40:10.319 --> 01:40:12.880
what hospitals are accredited and they can also get a

1785
01:40:12.920 --> 01:40:15.920
lot of other information about being taken care of in

1786
01:40:15.960 --> 01:40:16.960
their reural community.

1787
01:40:17.640 --> 01:40:20.239
Excellent. Doctor Ron Weigel has been our gass. He's the

1788
01:40:20.279 --> 01:40:23.720
medical director of the American College of Surgeon's Cancer Programs,

1789
01:40:24.000 --> 01:40:27.720
a professor of surgery, surgical oncology, and andercan surgery at

1790
01:40:27.760 --> 01:40:30.800
the University of Iowa Carver College of Medicine. As we

1791
01:40:30.840 --> 01:40:34.520
wrap things up, Doctor Weigel one more time, remind everybody

1792
01:40:34.520 --> 01:40:35.840
where they can go to learn more.

1793
01:40:36.319 --> 01:40:41.439
Yeah, FACS dot org slash real cancer and there's a

1794
01:40:41.439 --> 01:40:44.800
lot of information there and hopefully we'll get a lot

1795
01:40:44.840 --> 01:40:47.840
more hospitals on board with becoming accredited.

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It's great to be back here with you. Bill. It's

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Yeah, well, you know, and whenever I can get you here,

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and we're often rolling right taking in the votes.

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Yeah, we're often rolling taken in the votes. You know,

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every week it just seems like it gets a little

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This week.

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The TDS is strong in the candidates that are up.

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We have Jim Acosta who claims that Trump wants to

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jail more reporters because he's sadistic. I'm not sure what

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reporters have been jailed. I know there was Don Lemon

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who was arrested a while ago for not leaving a

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church after being asked to, you know, violating the churchgoers

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First Amendment rights.

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Maybe that's what he's referring to.

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But you know, of course, to Macosta had no problem

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under you know, all the Obama administration pulling the AP records,

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going after James Rosen, James Risen, you know that was

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all fine, and you know, kicking Fox reporters out of

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the press conferences. They had no problem with that. But somehow,

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I guess the First Amendments under attack because Trump is

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jailing reporters. I don't quite see how that logic works.

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Well, the thing that's so rich with irony here is

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that Jim Acosta basically kicked himself out of the press

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room because he was such a hack. I mean, what

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did he bring. I mean, he's just he's just there

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to be an irritant. He you know, after you know,

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after his you know, his presentations and and disturbances there

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and everything in the White House was like, what, he's

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a nuisance.

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Well, if you notice when he was on air before,

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I mean, now he's on online and.

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A guest on other people shows. I think he was

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on MS now when he made these comments.

1915
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If you notice, the network pulled them in once Biden

1916
01:47:01.279 --> 01:47:03.840
was elected because they knew he wasn't going to act

1917
01:47:03.880 --> 01:47:06.479
that way. You know, you have to figure they knew

1918
01:47:06.520 --> 01:47:08.520
he wasn't going to act that way, so we can't

1919
01:47:08.520 --> 01:47:10.319
embarrass him. So let's put him back behind the desk.

1920
01:47:10.600 --> 01:47:12.359
Let's not have him out at the White House again.

1921
01:47:12.600 --> 01:47:15.159
But of course, Bill, he's only one of the candidates

1922
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we have. This week, I talked to you about option

1923
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number two here.

1924
01:47:18.479 --> 01:47:19.760
Yeah, let's go on number two.

1925
01:47:20.039 --> 01:47:21.640
Okay, So this is Washington Post.

1926
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He's a cultural reporter, Philip Kennicott, and he was talking

1927
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about the changes being made at the Smithsonian, you know,

1928
01:47:29.119 --> 01:47:30.800
some of the plaques being changed, some of the names

1929
01:47:30.840 --> 01:47:35.960
being changed. His TDS tells you that this is authoritarian

1930
01:47:36.039 --> 01:47:38.920
regimeed type thing, because if you can change the past,

1931
01:47:38.960 --> 01:47:42.720
Trump is trying to control the present and the future.

1932
01:47:45.000 --> 01:47:49.960
Again when they added DEI and they and I mean,

1933
01:47:50.000 --> 01:47:52.319
this is the group if you remember, not all that

1934
01:47:52.359 --> 01:47:54.000
many years ago, they were tearing down.

1935
01:47:53.800 --> 01:47:56.880
Statues, right, they were eliminating history.

1936
01:47:56.920 --> 01:48:00.359
But you know, that's the history they don't like, so

1937
01:48:00.439 --> 01:48:01.880
that needs to be eliminated.

1938
01:48:02.119 --> 01:48:05.359
That's okay. But if you say, you know, maybe we should.

1939
01:48:05.079 --> 01:48:07.439
Focus on some positive things of America and not just

1940
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have everything be about the issue of slavery, you know,

1941
01:48:11.520 --> 01:48:13.319
or let's put it in some kind of context, Well,

1942
01:48:13.359 --> 01:48:15.520
they don't like that, you know, they don't like the context.

1943
01:48:15.920 --> 01:48:19.760
That's authoritarianism and trying to control the presence in the future.

1944
01:48:20.479 --> 01:48:22.800
I don't know how you defend it, Eric, I mean,

1945
01:48:23.439 --> 01:48:26.199
it's just it's so off the rails here. It's like,

1946
01:48:26.560 --> 01:48:29.520
in fact, you know what I'm hearing across the country's people.

1947
01:48:29.720 --> 01:48:32.439
You got to be kidding me, really, I mean there there,

1948
01:48:32.600 --> 01:48:35.600
I mean, it's like what happened to normal stuff? What

1949
01:48:35.680 --> 01:48:38.560
happened just hey, let's just kind of you know, let's

1950
01:48:38.640 --> 01:48:40.800
document his Well wait a minute, this has been going

1951
01:48:40.840 --> 01:48:43.560
on for decades. It's just now you're opening up your

1952
01:48:43.560 --> 01:48:47.520
eyes and you're realizing, you know, how DEI we've gotten.

1953
01:48:48.399 --> 01:48:52.680
Yeah, exactly. I mean this goes to remember a glacier

1954
01:48:52.800 --> 01:48:56.199
National Park. Let's let's go with the left on climate change.

1955
01:48:56.199 --> 01:48:58.640
You know, they had these glaciers will be gone by

1956
01:48:58.640 --> 01:49:02.159
the year twenty twenty five or whatever it was at

1957
01:49:02.159 --> 01:49:03.920
the time. Well, they had to quietly just kind of

1958
01:49:03.920 --> 01:49:06.479
take those down because they're still here.

1959
01:49:08.359 --> 01:49:08.560
You know.

1960
01:49:09.239 --> 01:49:10.960
It's this aspect of course, you know they had They

1961
01:49:10.960 --> 01:49:13.039
didn't put up a stink about that. Why because they

1962
01:49:13.039 --> 01:49:16.000
were wrong. You know, they don't want to have it

1963
01:49:16.039 --> 01:49:19.479
glaringly pointed out to them. But in this case, again,

1964
01:49:19.560 --> 01:49:22.600
you know, if you distort the history, it's okay to

1965
01:49:22.640 --> 01:49:25.720
present it within context. Slavery, yes, it was bad, it

1966
01:49:25.760 --> 01:49:29.319
was evil. America had it, you know, but eventually they

1967
01:49:29.319 --> 01:49:31.760
got rid of it. We've moved on past it, We've

1968
01:49:31.800 --> 01:49:35.159
moved you know, past the civil rights era. A lot

1969
01:49:35.199 --> 01:49:37.239
of things have changed. It's important to note that it

1970
01:49:37.319 --> 01:49:41.000
happened and there's been changed. But just to focus and reiterate.

1971
01:49:41.039 --> 01:49:42.760
Well, and the deal is is they take it out

1972
01:49:42.800 --> 01:49:46.479
of context because they don't want to tell you that

1973
01:49:46.560 --> 01:49:49.920
it was blacks in slaving blacks to begin with.

1974
01:49:50.479 --> 01:49:53.039
Yeah, that's a huge part of it. Or the word

1975
01:49:53.119 --> 01:49:55.319
slave itself, slav I mean, this has been going on

1976
01:49:55.399 --> 01:49:58.600
for centuries. Slavic is an Eastern European word, and that's

1977
01:49:58.640 --> 01:50:02.600
where they got slave from when the Eastern Europeans were slaves.

1978
01:50:03.159 --> 01:50:05.039
I mean, again, it's not a good thing. I don't

1979
01:50:05.039 --> 01:50:08.439
think anyone's making that argument anywhere. But the fact that

1980
01:50:08.479 --> 01:50:10.439
they just want to focus on the racial divide in

1981
01:50:10.439 --> 01:50:13.760
America and repeat, well, you know George Washington had slaves

1982
01:50:13.800 --> 01:50:16.960
and Thomas Jefferson had slaves, and so the Founding fathers

1983
01:50:17.000 --> 01:50:19.720
are basically evil is kind of ridiculous.

1984
01:50:20.079 --> 01:50:22.439
Well, you know, the Supreme Court has given the country

1985
01:50:22.439 --> 01:50:27.319
an opportunity to recalculate here and you know, kind of

1986
01:50:27.319 --> 01:50:31.760
get connected with their brains again, because we have been

1987
01:50:32.279 --> 01:50:36.920
so short circuited and our mind and our thinking has

1988
01:50:36.960 --> 01:50:41.439
been so compromised over this racial divide that you know,

1989
01:50:41.800 --> 01:50:44.800
it is confusing to many people because they go, I

1990
01:50:44.840 --> 01:50:47.840
don't think that way. You know, I don't care about

1991
01:50:47.840 --> 01:50:50.319
the color of your skin, you know. I often tell

1992
01:50:50.359 --> 01:50:52.479
people that, you know, when I was a kid growing up,

1993
01:50:52.840 --> 01:50:56.840
we had blacks, you know, in our community, and we

1994
01:50:56.920 --> 01:50:59.159
played baseball with him, and I didn't care that they

1995
01:50:59.159 --> 01:51:02.159
were black or bink or whatever. All I cared about

1996
01:51:02.279 --> 01:51:04.520
is could you hit the darn ball? Can you catch

1997
01:51:04.560 --> 01:51:06.520
the ball so we can get an out? I mean

1998
01:51:06.560 --> 01:51:08.359
that that's all, that's all we care to It has

1999
01:51:08.399 --> 01:51:11.359
had nothing to do with anybody's skin color.

2000
01:51:11.840 --> 01:51:14.359
It's a leftist talking point to try to motivate votes.

2001
01:51:14.439 --> 01:51:17.159
Is there racism still? Yes, of course there's still racism,

2002
01:51:17.199 --> 01:51:19.800
but I think it's quite a small minority.

2003
01:51:19.840 --> 01:51:22.000
It's probably more from the left and more from.

2004
01:51:22.239 --> 01:51:25.039
You know, the news media wants to play off every incident,

2005
01:51:25.119 --> 01:51:27.880
you know, as a huge thing to make it look

2006
01:51:27.920 --> 01:51:30.119
it's everywhere. It's everywhere, you know, and then you have

2007
01:51:30.199 --> 01:51:35.720
people like Sarny Houston from the view or even there

2008
01:51:36.000 --> 01:51:37.560
trying to I'm blanking on our name right now. But

2009
01:51:38.000 --> 01:51:41.000
on ms NOW in MSNBC, you know, the American flags.

2010
01:51:41.039 --> 01:51:42.760
I go out and I see American flags and that

2011
01:51:42.840 --> 01:51:44.119
means white supremacy to me.

2012
01:51:44.800 --> 01:51:50.039
Yeah, nobody's saying up an American flag is white supremacy.

2013
01:51:50.319 --> 01:51:52.239
Yeah, and I want to wipe my dirty hands with this.

2014
01:51:52.359 --> 01:51:55.199
And it's like, wait a minute, please, you're living in

2015
01:51:55.239 --> 01:51:59.720
a free country. Over a million Americans went to war

2016
01:51:59.800 --> 01:52:03.640
to secure our freedoms, paid the ultimate price. Their families

2017
01:52:03.960 --> 01:52:07.039
have endured the loss of their loved one, and this

2018
01:52:07.119 --> 01:52:10.600
is the This is so disrespectful and you know enough

2019
01:52:10.640 --> 01:52:12.680
of this, and you know, and I'm and I'm sick

2020
01:52:12.720 --> 01:52:15.640
and tired of it having shoved down my throat like this.

2021
01:52:16.000 --> 01:52:19.720
And especially I mean, you talk about racism, how rampant

2022
01:52:19.760 --> 01:52:23.720
it's running on the w NBA, for example, Yeah, no,

2023
01:52:23.920 --> 01:52:26.560
is that out of control or what I mean?

2024
01:52:26.600 --> 01:52:28.159
I don't know how you look at that any other

2025
01:52:28.199 --> 01:52:30.720
way that the you know, the white player gets beat

2026
01:52:30.800 --> 01:52:33.479
upon and that's okay, and you have other players pointing

2027
01:52:33.520 --> 01:52:38.199
it out and saying, you know, that's not right. But

2028
01:52:38.399 --> 01:52:41.119
you know, if the refs don't call it, I mean,

2029
01:52:41.199 --> 01:52:43.600
we've all seen the video. We know how disturbing it is.

2030
01:52:44.000 --> 01:52:45.880
I don't know how you don't put that in the

2031
01:52:45.920 --> 01:52:49.039
frame of racism. I guess maybe you could frame it

2032
01:52:49.079 --> 01:52:53.039
as they're jealous that she gets all the attention, you know,

2033
01:52:53.239 --> 01:52:56.159
because she's a really good player. But you know that

2034
01:52:56.199 --> 01:52:59.479
would be it seems to be more than that. But

2035
01:52:59.560 --> 01:53:01.359
let me get to let me get toption number three,

2036
01:53:02.319 --> 01:53:07.199
number three, and that's John Stewart, who is really critical

2037
01:53:07.239 --> 01:53:10.439
of having Trump at the White House correspondence dinner because

2038
01:53:10.520 --> 01:53:13.840
you know, Trump is the opponent to the reporters in

2039
01:53:14.119 --> 01:53:17.760
the First Amendment. He's their opponent against them in free speech.

2040
01:53:18.359 --> 01:53:21.399
Where was this man when Biden had the Ministry of

2041
01:53:21.439 --> 01:53:27.159
Truth with our singing Mistress of disinformation, you know, singing

2042
01:53:27.199 --> 01:53:30.159
about what was qualified? Where was he when we all

2043
01:53:30.199 --> 01:53:32.399
got zapped out? I mean, we can look back at

2044
01:53:32.399 --> 01:53:35.000
Fauci this week when we said things like, you know,

2045
01:53:35.079 --> 01:53:38.720
maybe Joe Biden really shouldn't dismiss those military members because

2046
01:53:38.720 --> 01:53:41.279
they don't want to take an experimental vaccine. Oh no,

2047
01:53:41.600 --> 01:53:44.840
boom off the internet. You're gone. You can't comment on it,

2048
01:53:44.880 --> 01:53:49.279
you can't disagree. Not to mention the over fifty different

2049
01:53:49.720 --> 01:53:54.399
government funded censorship efforts that were funded by the Biden administration.

2050
01:53:54.479 --> 01:53:57.119
Trump ended them all, thank goodness. But I mean, you know,

2051
01:53:57.199 --> 01:54:00.800
our tax dollars were going to censor ourselves. That was fine. No,

2052
01:54:00.960 --> 01:54:03.119
it's Trump that's against free speech. Even though this guy

2053
01:54:03.159 --> 01:54:06.960
holds press conferences takes questions from everybody, goes on for hours,

2054
01:54:07.359 --> 01:54:10.640
you know, and Joe Biden worked in collusion with the media,

2055
01:54:10.680 --> 01:54:13.800
you know, having pictures of the reporters and oh, here's

2056
01:54:13.840 --> 01:54:16.079
their first question, here's their name. Call on this one.

2057
01:54:16.640 --> 01:54:18.880
How did that happen? That was never really fully explain

2058
01:54:18.960 --> 01:54:22.479
to me how that happened. That's not an accident, No,

2059
01:54:22.600 --> 01:54:23.279
not at all.

2060
01:54:23.600 --> 01:54:25.960
But you know, I love Stewart's comment. I don't need

2061
01:54:26.000 --> 01:54:28.600
to see the cops and robbers getting along at a

2062
01:54:28.640 --> 01:54:31.560
banquet honoring our penal code. You can celebrate the first

2063
01:54:31.560 --> 01:54:35.119
Amendment without asking your opponent in that fight what he thinks.

2064
01:54:35.439 --> 01:54:37.439
You already know what he thinks.

2065
01:54:37.199 --> 01:54:40.640
Right, yeah, And honestly, if you'll get you know that

2066
01:54:40.640 --> 01:54:45.000
he thinks that the first I mean, what protests against

2067
01:54:45.079 --> 01:54:47.960
him has he put down? You know, we see the

2068
01:54:48.000 --> 01:54:51.600
no Kings, Evansoy. What news reporters has he censored?

2069
01:54:53.399 --> 01:54:57.359
Well, he'll he'll call them, he'll call them on their reporting. Yeah,

2070
01:54:57.439 --> 01:55:00.000
he said from day one that it was fake news.

2071
01:55:00.479 --> 01:55:05.079
And the thing is that again, instead of them having

2072
01:55:05.119 --> 01:55:10.760
a moment of reassessment and some you know, just thinking about, Okay,

2073
01:55:11.079 --> 01:55:14.520
why is somebody the president of the United States Why

2074
01:55:14.600 --> 01:55:18.880
is he saying that about our profession? Are we really fake?

2075
01:55:19.159 --> 01:55:22.680
I mean, are we miss reporting here? Do we need

2076
01:55:22.720 --> 01:55:27.880
to reassess? Nope, they doubled down on stupid and you know,

2077
01:55:27.960 --> 01:55:31.439
and so now what they've done is really that they

2078
01:55:31.479 --> 01:55:35.199
have reinforced this statement that Trumps put out there that

2079
01:55:35.319 --> 01:55:37.399
is fake news because that's what they do.

2080
01:55:37.960 --> 01:55:39.600
Right, And he calls him out on it, and they

2081
01:55:39.600 --> 01:55:42.399
don't like it. He's like, oh, who are you from CNN? Oh, okay,

2082
01:55:42.479 --> 01:55:44.960
CNN fake news? This is going to be a negative question.

2083
01:55:45.039 --> 01:55:49.079
And generally he's right, right and making that guess before

2084
01:55:49.119 --> 01:55:49.920
it comes at him.

2085
01:55:50.159 --> 01:55:53.359
But you make a great statement.

2086
01:55:54.239 --> 01:55:56.640
And I got to tie this into the current situation

2087
01:55:56.760 --> 01:56:00.760
with Fauci in the testimony that we've seen is you know,

2088
01:56:00.920 --> 01:56:04.920
the media cannot admit they're wrong ever, as we've seen,

2089
01:56:05.279 --> 01:56:06.279
and they work.

2090
01:56:06.159 --> 01:56:10.880
In collusion with the left. Look look at the Fauci diaries.

2091
01:56:11.439 --> 01:56:13.600
You know, it was a battle of the network anchor

2092
01:56:13.680 --> 01:56:15.720
stars to see who could go out for dinner with them?

2093
01:56:15.800 --> 01:56:17.399
Is gonna be Jake Tapper? Is it going to be

2094
01:56:17.479 --> 01:56:19.800
Chuck Todd? Is it going to be George Stephanoppolis? He

2095
01:56:19.920 --> 01:56:21.640
was going out hanging out with all of them. They

2096
01:56:21.640 --> 01:56:25.359
were asking him what would be good questions? Right, they're

2097
01:56:25.359 --> 01:56:29.119
getting their question from. If that's not media collusion, I

2098
01:56:29.159 --> 01:56:31.319
don't know what is. And you look, why does the

2099
01:56:31.359 --> 01:56:34.520
media settle all its lawsuits with Trump when Trump sues

2100
01:56:34.560 --> 01:56:37.960
them because they don't want those kind of emails and

2101
01:56:38.000 --> 01:56:39.720
that kind of information.

2102
01:56:39.720 --> 01:56:42.880
Exposed exactly exactly that they're.

2103
01:56:42.720 --> 01:56:45.720
Colluding with the enemies of Donald Trump and with the

2104
01:56:45.760 --> 01:56:48.119
political opposition against.

2105
01:56:47.880 --> 01:56:50.840
Well, we got to leave it there. So let's calculate

2106
01:56:50.880 --> 01:56:52.119
the votes. How do they vote?

2107
01:56:53.079 --> 01:56:54.840
Well, we don't know the results yet. We'll find out

2108
01:56:54.840 --> 01:56:58.000
the results that day. Right now, as far as I know,

2109
01:56:58.239 --> 01:57:01.399
I believe Jim Acosta was in the lead last time

2110
01:57:01.439 --> 01:57:03.319
I looked. But we encourage people to go to vote.

2111
01:57:03.359 --> 01:57:05.880
You can go to NewsBusters dot org check out the

2112
01:57:05.920 --> 01:57:08.159
poll right there. It's right on the front page right now,

2113
01:57:08.479 --> 01:57:10.840
and you can click on it and vote for whichever

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01:57:10.880 --> 01:57:11.600
one you think.

2115
01:57:12.279 --> 01:57:14.880
Eric Sheiner, thank you, buddy, appreciate it. He's a senior

2116
01:57:14.920 --> 01:57:17.960
director for MRC video. Have a great day, Eric, Take

2117
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care you too.

2118
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Bill.

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