Aug. 3, 2026
The Bill Martinez Show 08 03 26
The Bill Martinez Show 08 03 26
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Are you ready, Yeah, Okay, let's do it.
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Ill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture,
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our values, our politics, and our future. And now Bill Martinez.
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Six minutes after the top of the r right. Now,
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Bill Martinez here with Grover Norquist. He is the president
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of Americans for Tax Reformer, America's pre eminent center right
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expert on taxes. Grover. Good to have you here. As always,
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you made it safe off the hill.
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Absolutely good to be with you. Bill.
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Hey, So give us an update. What did you discover
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yesterday as they held you captive.
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Well, the Democrats have plans at the state level and
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at the national level. They want to raise three trillion dollars.
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They say it's for social security. But when Clinton was in,
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there was money, he didn't put any of it into
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social security. When Obama was in, when Biden's en, they
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never took any government resources and put them into social curity.
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They in fact created new entitlements with that they also
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didn't pay for. So the constant pushing of more government
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programs beyond the taxes, and both taxes and spending need
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to go down. So they're going to continue to ask.
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They're going to say to people, oh this is for
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soci security. By the way, there's no lock box. The
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money that they raise saying it's for social security does
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not have to go to soci security. There is no
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place to put the money for sociecurity. There's no lock box,
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there's no there's no cabinet. It's just into the general revenue,
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and they pretend where it goes. So be careful when
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politicians lie to you and say we're going to raise
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money and do this with it. There is no legal, constitutional,
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and in their view, moral obligation to do what they
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say more money. They take us an opportunity to spend more.
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That's remember that's what happened. When Reagan got tricked into
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three dollars of spending reduction. He was promised for only
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one dollar of tax increase, a three to one ratio.
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The tax increases were real, they didn't help the economy.
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All of the spending cuts not only didn't happen, but
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spending went up more rapidly after the deal than before then.
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They went to George Herbert walker Bush, who for eight
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years had lunch every week with Reagan and learned evidently nothing.
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So I feel a little less bad about my ability
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to transfer some information to my children. Happened had eight
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years directly, but he was offered two dollars of imaginary
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spending cuts for every dollar of tax increase. Now, I
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would have thought if you're lying to somebody to make
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them feel good, you'd have say, since you're playing with
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Confederate currency, right, we'll give you ten dollars, right imaginary exactly,
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a guy feel good for a week or two two dollars.
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Not only did the spending not get cut, it went
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up more rapidly, and it was so bad that the
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tax increases that it did slow the economy down, very
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very unhelpful. The Democrats are going to try and play
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this game one hundred times. They want to keep coming
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back saying we need to hire taxes. The answer is,
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the cost of government is total spending, whether you borrow
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it or take it in taxes, it's gone. Raising taxes
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to reduce the deficit doesn't free up any money for anything.
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It just moves it from your savings to the government's savings.
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Except they spent yeah, right.
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Yeah, the government savings. That's almost the knoximoron.
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It is. They just spend and spend. And now there's
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this new trick international taxes. There's a French guy, of
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course he's French, who said, you know that idea in
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California having a tax on billionaires, which could be millionaires
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in a couple of weeks, but the first time they
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do it will just be the millionaires millionaires, they promise,
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sort of and so, and that'd be five percent of
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everything that they'd saved in their life. There's their business,
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their land, the gold, and their teeth, it's whatever, farm
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h and they're gonna take five percent of it. So
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many people and so much money left California that if
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that measure actually passes in November, we'll be on the ballot.
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The governor of that of that state, Newsom, would like
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to run for president, so he doesn't want to see
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California collapse in front of the whole country while he's
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running for president. So he said, don't pass this bill, please,
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please don't. And the even more crazy people than Newsom said, now,
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we're going to do it anyway. So it's going on
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the ballot. It may get defeated because there will be
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some opposition and people will make the case as to
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why it's devastating, but just by talking about it enough
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people with enough money have left and their income taxes
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will no longer be paid in California, that that tax
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increase on billionaires will now lose money for California, and
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they'll have to raise taxes on every citizen because they're
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fewer high income people exactly looking around.
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Well, this is the same scenario that New York is
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faced with, is it not.
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Yes, it's just.
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Like it's just so obvious. It's just incredible that you
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know how silly it is. But you see them heading
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for a cement. Well, but like you said, they're bound
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to determined, they don't want to, you know, hear the warnings.
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Well, the New York tax on people who own property,
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who own who rent something or own something in the city,
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but they live somewhere else. They come to the city
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to do some work. Perhaps they said, oh, we're going
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to tax you heavily if on property that you own,
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even though you don't live in New York. George the Third,
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the King who wanted to tax Americans without giving them representation.
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We got mad and they had to leave, and our
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battle cry was no taxation without representation. And people in
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New York, people who visit New York will now be
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taxed a specific penalty tax on people who can't vote
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against Madami because they don't live in the city, but
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they have some property there, so they get taxed, not
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just like everybody else on normal property taxes, which are
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not normal in New York. They're pretty high additional tax
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because you can't vote against me, smack you in the face,
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steal your money. And what that means is people will stop.
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They may not all leave, but the big change that
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takes place is people will stop saying I'll keep an
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office there, I'll keep a Piana Terra place to stay there.
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They'll now go out. I'm not going to set my
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foot there. I'll call it in mostly headquarters. Please move
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from New York to Dallas or to Miami so I
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can visit you there. I want to live in Wyoming,
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one of these business guys, right, but I'm not going
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to go to New York and get taxed like that.
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Yeah yeah, Why go to New York when you know
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the crime rate is what it is? I mean, there's
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so many negatives about New York anymore, and then you
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bring in a socialist mayor that is uh, it's just amazing.
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I mean, even Kathy Hulkel things that she's you know,
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backed off on too Grover. I mean, you know the
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hard left has a hold of this Democratic Party, does
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it not.
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They do that back to when those the fights in
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Nicaragua and El Salvador and the American advice t Eel
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Salvador is to basically become socialist, And they said, tell
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you what on Land? So you why don't get break
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up land and give it to different people that didn't
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know it? And they said, tell you what, why don't
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you try that on a small state like Vermont? And
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when it works, they then come tell us an El
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Salvador that this might be a good idea And the
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answer is because they knew it wouldn't work. But what
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we're doing is now New York is a rather large
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rat to be doing scientific experiments on. You think you
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might try Vermont, not New York City, but in front
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of you, because Vermont could fall apart and no one
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would notice it, because it's been falling apart for thirty
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years and nobody's noticed. But New York. The bad stuff
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there that democratic socialism pushes big status and big government,
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tax and spend whatever they want to call it. They
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keep changing the names, because as soon as people figure
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out what the name is, they don't like it, so
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they move it to a different name, and liberal, progressive,
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social democrat move it around. So, oh, that was the
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other guys mean, I got a new name for my
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big government programs. As the people are going to watch
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this failure in New York and New York's used to
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be very rich leader of the country, people are leaving.
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It's less important that there are fewer congressional districts in
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the state than there used to be. But it's going
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to continue, probably a slow decline relative, but the world
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will see it. Argentina fall apart because of big government,
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nobody noticed until it completely fall apart. New York people
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will notice, yeah, you.
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