Bill Martinez Live
July 31, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 07 31 26

The Bill Martinez Show 07 31 26
The Bill Martinez Show 07 31 26
Bill Martinez Live
The Bill Martinez Show 07 31 26
The Bill Martinez Show 07 31 26
Transcript

0:00 Are you ready? Yeah, okay's doing Ill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and our future. And now Bill Martinez. Hey, good morning, welcome, Good to have you with us. Bill Martinez here with doctor Curry Myers. He's back with us. Always an honor to have him here. He is the applied criminologist, academic, academician. That's always a good fun word to say, author, consultant and retired Shriff Curry. Always good to have you with us. How are you, sir? I'm doing well. I'm glad you could say it. I never can. Well yeah, yeah, but you put it in your.

0:42 People. Yeah, it's good fun. Well, thank you, you're successful. Okay, So, now that we got that out of the way, eager to talk about what you just wrote about, and that is that behavior leaves evidence. What doctor Vauci's COVID era diary can teach us about investigative thinking, right. Yeah, exactly. I mean when law enforcement officers and I spent thirty six years in counting towards the business. I was twenty four years on the job as a police officer, different levels, worked many homicides and public corruption cases, and always you're looking for a motive, and motive plays an important tool. And one of the ways you find motive is through evidence looking at evidence, and this includes documents that you find in a search, warrant scene, and documents can be in many different things, to include people's own words. Bill, So I mean when somebody writes something down or often videotapes or in today's use of social media, you go over social media applications and you'll actually find out behaviors and instincts because what happens Bill over time, people will fall back to what they know best and what they do and what really is inside their own ethos, if you will, from a personality and behavioral point of view.

2:03 So when you determine that the important reason you want to use it as an investigator as you're gathering information. Just because somebody said something doesn't mean that that's an advocation of guilt, of course, but it leads us to wonder why and how and when and answer those questions and then be able to use them to do very good interview techniques and then be able to come up with a better idea of what's inside the person's mind when they were doing something. And so Fauci's diary, which he probably never envisioned that it would be released to the public, but it has gives us some important information. Again, it's not an indication of guilt of some one thing or another, but it tells us a lot about the person and what their behaviors are and what kind of things that could lead up to as a result.

3:02 Right. I've often said that people's self indict Yeah, all the time. Right, I mean, if you just listen and here it is because it is who they are. Just again in terms of you know, your background and and your work as a sheriff. You know, we often hear motive defined for our audience. When you say motive, what do you mean by motive? I'm looking at reasons why somebody may take the position that they do in a particular case. So motive can be think of the Seven Deadly Sins as an example. I like to put frame framework things according to faith sometimes, but motive can be why is the why is a person doing this? And there's all kinds of reason. There's greed, there's sloth, they may commit it because that ring. There's jealousy, there's lust. There's all kinds of reason why. But the number one thing that always comes back to me is the adage follow the money. And when you follow the money, then you come up with pretty good ideas of what the criminal intent is. And sometimes you can have a couple of different motives that blend in together. And so in this particular case, again there is information that are contained within the writings and what he has said personally that could lend to some sort of motive. Now, again, motive doesn't mean guilt. It just means it's opening a

4:34 door for us as investigators to peer in and then you'll start gathering evidence and information, and then that will help determine whether or not the person needs to be completely investigated, which I believe he does. I'm not saying he's guilty of something, but there is enough there for any kind of investigator to say, I need to know more about this. And we do know Bill that he has made money off of COVID nineteen, and he has made fain off of COVID nineteen that has resulted in profitability for him. And then you know, don't ever forget pride.

5:18 Pride is the number one sin that most people commit, and that pride can lead to some culpability when it comes to criminal intent as well, or trying to especially cover up something so you could do something that is a mistake, an accident. Maybe you thought it would was purpose purposeful, but didn't realize the unintended consequence of your actions. And then all of a sudden, when you realize that something did happen, sometimes the bigger crime that occurs is the cover up. Yeah, when it metastasizes, absolutely absolutely, Now, yeah, this is the thing, you know. I thought it was interesting one hundred and eleven times doctor Fauci took the fifth, you know, and I guess in part we can understand that. I thought at one point I thought, well, maybe what the senators how to do is ask a question and let the diary answer the question.

6:17 Yeah. Yeah, of course he wasn't going to answer, and which I was surprised because he has been very forthcoming in previous interviews and again part of his interviews, he has demonstrated his behavior, Bill, I mean, his behaviors are are almost like the entries into the diary, you know, and how he acts. But I actually thought for him taking the fifth, which is his right to do, but he has demonstrated openness before, and now all of a sudden taking the fifth on the same subject subject matter gives me pause for concern. He has every right to do so. I, in fact of attorney would have probably told him to do the same thing. However he hasn't done it in the past, and that again shows a particular behavior.

7:12 Now. I think the senators were able to which a lot of them are lawyers, and many of them have actually appeared in court. They understand the premise behind it, and they answered. They asked many questions right, and then they answered those questions for him in many ways. Sometimes just asking the questions curry right. Sometimes just asking the question and let it. I I when I train young police officers or students in my class, I always recommend us being quiet as often as we can. I think police officers the best investigators. It's the mantra that I often followed is that you ask a question, they need to be open ended, because you don't want to give something to narrow You want to have them fill in the color behind the numbers, if you will.

8:05 You want to have them go with it, and then you start asking follow up questions that can start narrowing things down. After you open the you have these open ended questions and I think they were able to ask some of those, but they also ask questions like what's the color of your tie? Right? And the reason the go ahead, Well, the reason they're doing that is they're showing there is no Fifth Amendment protection on the color of one's tie. It's simply a question that can be asked. There's you're not going to be arrested or you're not going to be charged because you answered green or building if he has a blue tie and he says green, it's not like you're you know, you're going to be arrested for those things. But what they're doing there, in my opinion, is trying to show evidence that his Fifth Amendment protection is bogus. So and and there is an argument federally on whether or not someone can take the Fifth Amendment if they've been given immunity, which and that was supposedly has Yeah, that was the question I had.

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13:46 We're talking with doctor Courmius, America's criminologists, retired sheriff and author of the Advent of Feral Men. He is the applied criminologist, academician, academic acady. There we go again. I'm I was found in a term and I said, I'm going to hit it this time because we could be here for a while, ladies and gentlemen. But academician, author, consultant and retired sheriff. Yeah, that was my question. And I talked to a couple of other attorneys about this because my understanding. I'm not an attorney, but my understanding was, once you're given a pardon, then you can't exercise a Fifth Amendment right. The other thing was it was interesting that he came in, he provided an open statement, and there's questions and whether or not when you come in and you provide an opening statement, if that ends up compromising your Fifth Amendment right because you're not allowed, according to Senate rules, to come in and make a statement and then claim a.

14:45 Fifth that's right. You can't have you can't have it both ways. You can't you can't offer your innocence in a statement, which basically he was, you know, he was doing and then turned around and take the fifth after that. So and that's in total conflict with the fact that he's been given immunity because of his pardon. Now, the interesting part on the pardon is it was a pardon for anything that could happen in the in the future, which I've never heard of before. I don't think it's ever been done. Future or the past. I think it went from twenty fourteen. I think it even said in for future actions against him. I think I may be wrong, but. I yeah, I didn't. I thought it was preemptive. I believe it was a preemptive pardon. Now you'll have to correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it was. There was some preemptive language, which I've never known that to happen.

15:38 Well, because if you do preemptive and preemptive, then you can say, all right, he goes out and murder somebody, Well I've got you know, I've got presidential immunity. Well wait what you know? So that's a little bizarre, but I know that it went back to twenty fourteen, to the last day of the administration, and this was signed. And of course there's the question about the auto pen and all that goes on in the legality behind him, not to mention the fact that you already had a president that Robert Herr, the special prosecutor, said that he was, you know, mentally, how do you want to say it, compromise, Let's let's leave it at that. He couldn't. He couldn't, you know, withstand scrutiny or a trial. But he's the president and somehow he has the ability to sign a pardon.

16:25 Yeah, no, there's no doubt about it. And the autopen should never be used for those kinds of pardons. I mean, the number one Biden. A lot of people don't realize that Biden's did a couple of thousand more pardons than I'm talking about, multiple thousands of pardons above any other president in the history of the United States. And they were all done by auto pen. They were not done by his name, which again lends somebody to believe he wasn't really the one given the pardons. Whoever, how could you sign off on those, even if you got to consider the amount of time it takes to consider the offering, right, and then you have to sign, and he signed supposedly over four thousand pardons. How was that even possible in the amount of time in which these supposedly it occurred, which was I think over maybe if we give them the benefit of doubt, say over the last week or.

17:17 Two is yes, especially because it was over the last week or two. I mean it was not over the four years of his presidency. The last couple of weeks is when we saw the volume of pardons. He had given a lot more than most prior to that, but the vast majority that came in, and there is a pardon attorney that has been put on the witness stand to ask about the kind of pardons that she participated in, and it sounds like she was just carte blanche making those pardons and the President was just signing off of them, as opposed to discerning whether or not the pardon attorney was correct or not. So the Senate has interviewed her and we seen some disparities in the way she answered those questions as well.

18:04 Yeah, well, we'll be curious to see. I don't think that there they will. I would be surprised if any of those partons were reversible. But you're probably looking at something, you know, going forward to say, Okay, Congress is going to step in and and it'll probably go to the Supreme Court to say there's got to be some limitations on this, and you know, and so especially that's one of the things that you know, I mean Joe Biden really, I mean you talk about breaking the ceiling. Joe Biden broke the ceiling in so many areas, whether it had to do with immigration, you know, certainly what happened in the executive branch and some of the things that he did. Going back to you know, what we were talking about earlier, and as you were stating, Curry, is that, you know, for investigations, it doesn't start with you know, with the proof, you're asking questions. You're you're trying to put a circle around the issue and to ask questions so you can drill down and really get down to the motive.

18:58 Right, The vast majority of crimes that are investigated start out with what is going on here as opposed to some evidence saying a crime has already happened, And so you look at those indications on why something happens, and then you dive into it further until you have additional evidence, and then you start diving even more until you have probable cause where you're able to get search warrants to open more doors, and it keeps leading down a road. Now, the interesting part on these is you get in I did add a section and you're probably going to ask on it about the ability in the medical community to commit criminal acts, and it's probably your listeners and viewers do not understand that the biggest killers in the world have been associated with the medical community. If you look at the largest number of serial killers that have ever occurred, the top ones have been doctors or nurses, and you very seldom hear that. You hear the ones that you know stalked behind a closed room or came out of an entryway or walked around a corner in the middle of the night that you seldom remember the ones that were nurses that gave inoculations that were purposely done to them because they wanted to have this feeling of power of potentially saving somebody's life. Or they like to see

20:32 people grieve, which is sadistic behavior. So those are some of the dark psychological traits that you can see. So you know, the question I have as an investigator, at what point does research and somebody who has total control over research and the ability to profit from it and other things have an impact on whether or not a mass number of people have been killed, you know, as a result of that work. Now again, I'm not saying it has happened. I'm not saying he is guilty of that. What I am saying is it needs to be investigated. Mhmm. Well, when you consider the facts as we know him now, and we've known him for a while, We've been reporting on this now for what the last four or five years. Uh, you know, President Obama supposedly had told doctor Fauci do not get involved with the Wuhan lab.

21:32 But he went ahead and did it anyway, and uh invested and invested taxpayer money to do this. Ultimately, it is all taxpayer money, wasn't wasn't like doctor falch about you wrote a check, you know, that was one thing. He always used other people's money, used the taxpayer's money, and did it. And then uh, and then and then supposed there was a team from NIH that went to China and said, these guys are a bunch of cowboys, this is danger. You're you're gonna have problem here, and so they all came home. Well, doctor Fauci had to have a good idea of the possibilities, but because of his lust and desire for science and gain of function, which he had written about many times, saying that he was an advocate of it, which was interesting because to me, gain of function was just a way to get around the idea of biological warfare, which had already been outlawed.

22:25 So they found a way to skirt around that issue, and gain of function became the order of the day. And so this happens, and then he gives the wrong information because he's trying to cover his rear end and I was shocked with Deborah Brooks as well being involved. According to the diary, Okay, the Deborah Brooks was all, you know, collusional with this and talking about putting the president in a position of surrender. Yeah, there's no doubt to your point. The evidence dictates and emails and emails from dotcor Trifaucci to others that he knew of these things ahead of time, and there was an issue and they were trying to get people to craft a different Well what about this possibility. Yeah, this could have occurred, but what about this possibility? And he's saying it to people who, interestingly enough, would be tied to funding from NIA exactly. So you have non government organizations NGOs, the famous NGOs that seemed to be a pathway for a lot of criminality. We had NGOs that were associated in the health and science field, and they were the ones that were being finance money, and of course they would take a percentage off the top and then the rest of it would go to help fund and they would be involved in the direct funding of the Wahoon Laboratory with the Chinese government. Now the question you have to ask again as an investigator, Okay, what's the criminal conspiracy potential criminal conspiracy? There, there's documents,

23:55 there's evidence, there's a lot of things that we need to get information about. But also we're going to check whether or not doctor Fauci made money during this time period from those NGOs that came back to him, or came back to his family, or came back to some other funding mechanism that he had a personal control of which he made a percentage of whatever money it may be. So those are the great questions that need to be addressed. I think they are. But it's a matter of not closing this door just because what I want to do. And one of the reasons I wrote it. It's not about the diary. It's about the case, and the diary is an open door on behavior that helps an investigator fill in some blanks on potential activities that could occur.

24:49 And it's going to help them be able to do interviews, which he's probably not going to do because he's probably going to seek counsel on him going forward. But it's going to help understand why some of the why behind the reasons that this pandemic occurred in the first place. And as we started arrowing those things down, it becomes a pretty large co conspiracy. And I think there is and you know a lot of us who had the were labeled people who were conspiracy theorist we have come true and I had and I was one of those from the very beginning that suspected some wrongdoing. I never got the vaccine, never been tested, never even never even went in to get you know, something stuck down my throat to see if I've had COVID before. Now I thank god that I didn't contract it and I didn't die.

25:48 I mean, because they are people that did, yes, because it was a bad vaccine, especially early on. I mean a vaccine. The vaccine ended up having problems too, but it was a bad pandem, so I'm not saying that it wasn't. But there is huge open holes with this that have to be addressed, and we can't let it just go bye bye because of whether or not they can charge Faulcy or not. There is other cases that can be done as a result of that, and those cases if you close the door and close the loop on some of the co conspirators that are involved in this, it's going to point back to doctor Fauci, and then you can test the limitations of whether or not his pardon is going to have that great wide breath of protection that he thinks he might have.

26:39 Well, And the whole motivation here, doctor Curry Myers, is that so it won't happen, againsolutely we do not get down to the truth that there's not consequences, then we're leaving the door open for this happening. Once again. Look forward to having you back because I know this is going to continue and you bring a lot to light here in this initial draft here. So thanks for coming on, doctor Curry Myers, America's criminologist, retired sheriff and author of the advent of feroh Man. Thank you, coury, take care, God bless. God, bless you. Appreciate all y'all you do. Have you written a book? Where? Do you have a manuscript ready and just need to find the right publisher. Christian Faith Publishing supports authors like yourself to bring their books to life, and right now we're offering you a free writer's guide designed to steer you towards book completion. Christian Faith Publishing evaluates each manuscript we receive. If your book earns approval, we take care of everything editing, designing, printing, promotion, and widespread online and in store distribution. Picture your book grasing the shelves of specialty Christian bookstores, Amazon, Barnes and Noble, and numerous other retail destinations. It's time to get that manuscript published and to work with a publisher who shares your values of integrity and honesty. You can get your book published, get your manuscript reviewed, and a free writer's guide today.

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31:06 Nutrition for Patriots. Hey, we're back with you, Bill Martinez here along with the Manhattan Masbox News confrimator to Roy Murgo, doctor Roy, how we done? Great? Bill? Are you good to talk to you? Well? Thank thank god you're not pleading the fifth? The fifth? Right now? Is that? Would you know? Make for a short conversation here, Betty? Yeah, we would. Well, shorter could fill the whole time. It wouldn't be very interesting, not terribly compelling. You know, I believe that doctor Fauci's up to one hundred eleven times he's invoked the fifth, and my understanding is because he has a pardoner with this blanket pardon from Joe Biden going all the way back to twenty fourteen. He can't claim that he's going to be subject to criminal prosecution because he can't be prosecuted. So because of that, he shouldn't be pleaning the fifth. He should be that that risk has gone away so he can incriminate himself all he wants that were worried about getting, you know, indicted or tried or convicted or jailed. So he should be answering questions and telling the American people why he told us one thing and told his diary something else.

32:11 Why he was telling people that the COVID nineteen vaccine came out of that wet market. You know, the people had those panglin burritos or whatever and got sick while he was telling him his diary and telling other people. You know, he had this thing came out of laboratory, and I guess maybe most revealed to his laboratory they would rather to his diary that has the masks were really not going to be effective social distancing. You know why six feet apparently pulled that number out of the air. That was not based on any research at all. So he's very honest with his diary will also lying to American people about one of the biggest tragedies and disasters and headaches that we've experience our twohun and fifty years exactly. And the thing is deroy. And I'm not an attorney either, but that was my first question, and talking with some other legal analysts is saying, I thought, if you had immunity, that the fifth had negated the fifth and you know, but as one attorney explained said, look at the thing is he has only covered, you know, for this period of time in terms of his culpability and the protection and the pardon protection that Joe Biden gave him, which is all kinds of strange. Anyway, I still question and I think Donald Trump has been questioning this as well, but the FBI and others have not been, I think, serious about pursuing this deal about the validity of these you know, four thousand or so pardons that Joe Biden did with the auto pen and and and here it is.

33:38 I mean, Robert Hurr already told everybody a year at least a year before that Joe Biden wasn't mentally competent. Well, how can a mentally incompetent president offer a pardon to an individual that covers a period a period of time, what eleven years. Yeah, and retrorectively. I mean usually hardens happened after you've been convicted or thrown in jail or whatever, and then you get pardoned. After all that, President Trump pardoned Roger Stone and also Mike Flynn, who had not gone to prison, but they'd been convicted and we're on the way to prison, so at least they'd gone through that legal process. But this was done at a time before anybody raised any charges against against Bauchi Preps, fearing that he would be indicted.

34:26 So I've never seen anything like that before. And of course he gives his son the same deal, you know, a blanket coverage against anything that come up in the future. Perhapsuly remarkable, but yeah, the deal is basically all right, look, you get coverage, but you get the pardon, but you've got to come forward and tell people you know what you did and answer the questions. But apparently he's trying to get the you know, the cake, the icing, the candle, and another case on top of that, getting the forgiveness and then also not at least telling us what happened, which he would. He takes this whole thing way way too far, So I don't know if you're can mean for the repercussions, if there's anything he can do. I imagine they want to hold him in contempt. They're going to vote on a condemned charges next week. On him as well they should. But is that just going to be a black mark against him, or they actually going to pursue this and you know, lock him up or something. I think he's also probably banking on the fact that he's eighty five years old and people probably feel sorry for him. If you were, you know, seventy five, sixty five or fifty five, he might be in more trouble. But maybe he's just betting on the concept that nobody wants to put an eighty five year old man in prison. But look, you know, he's got to pay the price for his actions, and remember his involvement, as far as he can tell, in funding the dangerous research at the Wuhang laboratory. This is a gain of function.

35:39 We're done. A really appalling description by Jony Ernst that they were taking a boarded a baby sells, injecting him into mice and then the mice are growing baby hair. I mean, this is just beyond Frankenstein. And yeah, if he did that sort of thing and pay for with US tax payer dollars, then lied about it and all that, you know, he needs to pay a price for this. And maybe he goes to jail for a week or two, and maybe he doesn't die in prison. I don't know them with the cases, but you know, nobody in this country who engages the criminals should should scape free. And the kind of things that Vouchi did I think go well beyond breaches of medical ethics and probably laps into illegality. And he needs to pay a price for this, as everybody in this country to pay a price when you break the lawer engage in this, in this kind of his.

36:20 Behavior, I'll tell you, I had a flashback just of things I read about during World War two and what the German scientists did, right, I mean they were extreme. I mean they just had they had card blocks, They could do whatever they want and humanity, no humanity, forget about ethics, like you said, And it seems like and the deal is is that it's interesting because even though doctor Fauci claimed the fifth one hundred and eleven times. As you say, the questions still expose something, don't they You don't have you don't have to answer them. It's just the questions. You know, they're on the record. And I thought the way the Republicans were handling this, except for Bernie Marine and burning, you know, got a little carried away there from just a moment. But you know, I don't I don't like to hear language from an elected official. And but that's okay, you know, but he channeling the frustration of his constituents that, like you said, were manipulated, they were lied to, they were gas lit, caused to do things that they didn't you know, that were dangerous and even to the point now, I mean, de roy All, this stuff that is now coming out are things that you and I talked about, we reported on, we got you know, we got canceled from you know, YouTube, and and you know we lost money as a result of what we're guilty of trying to find the truth and bring it to the American people.

37:43 Yeah. Man, Unfortunately this is what happened. I mean, we saw people separated from their loved ones. We saw in these tragic, heartbreaking photos of Roacho's waiting at Grandma, you know, through the glass, while Grandma's trapped inside the nursing home, and I allowed to see her grandkids, and Grandma dies and the only contact they have is waving at each other through windows. Here in New York, Andrew Cuomo insisted on putting COVID positive seniors into nursing homes. The COVID negative seniors got sick and died, to the tune of about fourteen thousand, fourteen thousand or so dead people here in New York. Stated consequence of that, you had churches clothes where people couldn't go to their worship services. You had kids kept out of school for the better part of two or if not three years, and these kids are going to be stunted and they're going to stay behind for life. I don't think they'll ever ever catch up.

38:35 And I think the total death count in the US is somewhere in the realm of one million, one point one million, something like that. And to whatever degree this is the director intirect result of Anthony Fauci using ar texpayer dollars to fund this gain of function research at the Huhan Laboratory that got out of control. I would assume theyrough an accident, and then you killed people all around the world. I think I heard the figure six million people world wide. I heard that today, which would be equal to Hitler's Holocaust to choose, for God's sake, that's a massive number. This guy's got to fess up for this. And you know, I don't think that research gave us anything of any value. Creating viruses from scratch and then one of this thing, you know, gets loose and kills people worldwide. You know, to whatever degree Fauchi had any knowledge of this, then light about it. You know, he needs to pay a price for us, whether it's you know, going in to prison for the rest of his life or at least spending some time in prison if he broke the law, and if not, he needs to be deeply fined. I do think, as you mentioned, that Republicans did a very good job despite Fauci taking the Fifth Amendment. In their questions that they asked him, they got a lot of information out. So I think they got a whole lot of facts and figures and interesting information out to the American public. And even if he didn't answer with whatever his you was, at least they were able to get that information on the records.

39:48 I do commend them on how they handle this. I've seen other instances where they've held hearings and somebody takes the fifth and after three or four times they just cable out and go home. And they stayed and stuck with it, and I've got the information on the right, gave him the opportunity answer he decided not to, and at a bare minimal at least got to hear what the accusations worry even though we didn't hear his response. Well, the other thing that's going to be really tough is doctor Fauci's diary. It speaks for itself, and I kept asking the question, where do they find this diary next to Joe Biden's automobile in his garage or something, or what. One of those classified boxes. And of course then we find out these Another interesting kind of treasure chess that's just been discovered over the last few days are the tapes that this journalist have of these conversations with Joe Biden when they were working on a book on his presidency, and Biden saying, oh, yeah, this stuff isn't the classified materials.

40:45 I just found the classified materials be careful. These papers are classified. So he knew all along these were classified documents. These a lot of these went back to his time as a US senator, when he didn't have the right to have them. The only person who has the right to have classified materials is the president. Can declassify anything he wants as soon as he wants to. That's the president's power. It's not the power of the vice presidency, certainly not the power of any US senator. So to whatever degree Biden had any classified materials that pre dated his presidency, that's a total violation of the law. And they spent years and years trying to keep this covered up, keep it, keep it quiet. Say he knew nothing about it. In fact, he knew this stuff was classified. He shouldn't have had this stuff. It was not in any secure location, as you say, was sitting in his in his garage next to his corvette in Delaware. That's not a secure location.

41:35 And when we've got somebody like Hunter Biden, who's who's all of his dealings with Ukraine and all the funny money and whatnot, who knows if somebody said to him blackmail and said, look, you know, we're going to release this information about your drug use or whatever it is. If you don't copy these documents and get them to us, or just you know, let us in for an hour to a rubbish through and pick out whatever we want. I don't know if he did that or not, but the risk of that sort of thing shouldn't be there. And Joe Biden put to the United States security either potentially or actually at risk by keeping those materials in an unsecure location despite the year. And compare that to the situation with Trump. Oh my god, Trump did all this with these class libwritords. He had every right to do with those records you wish, because he can declassify anything he wants. People don't like that law that can change it, but that's what the loss is. Today.

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46:22 We're talking with Doroy Murdoch and at Basbox News contributor. It's amazing when it comes to these documents and classified information like what you're talking about. You know, they weren't about to storm Biden's to Delaware home and go through Jill Biden's underwear drawer like they did with Lania Trump. And yeah, I mean it's just it's just ridiculous the irony here that has taken place. And then you talk about, you know, Hillary Clinton, for example, how she mishandled classified information on a server and you know, a private server, and I mean, all these all these Washingtonians and these elected officials, they have their own back channel, private communication channels which are a violation. And then when you know, the spotlight comes upon them, they plead plausible deniability, or in Hillary Clinton's case, you just just destroy evidence. And what happens to her, I mean, she's a chapiquittic or wherever she's at, flying around, you know, Chappaqua. I'm sorry, chapiquittic forgive me.

47:27 Yeah, and just different schedule. Yeah, business as usual. It's like, I mean, the American people are fed up with this. Well, American people have very right to be and the double standard is so stark and so irritating. As you say, Hillary Clinton had these classified materials, She had them sitting on a server in her home and that she shares with the Bill Clinton Chappaquah, you know, do it yourself sort of a server she put in there. When she got in trouble, she had one of her people take her blackberries and destroy them with a hammer. This is like something out of a Martin Scorsese sure. Uh. And then you know, bleach bit the hard drive so that all this stuff could be erased. And at one point she was taking state classified State Department records, uh transit transferring them from the State Department to her home in Chappaquais and then I guess emailing or forty that stuff to Uma Abadine whatever her top aids, and she at one point said to Anthony, to her husband, Anthony Wiener, hey, would you please print this stuff out so I can take a look at it. So you've got Anthony Wiener, guy's wrapped up with all sorts of bizarre, perverse behavior.

48:31 Who knows there's a guy who's wide open to blackmail. Hey, you know, if you don't print out these documents and hand them over to you know, ambassadors so and soil consul general such and such, you know, we're gonna wouldn't be sad if we told the media about your interesting proclivities with all these women who was sending to them, sending dude photos and the teenage girls and all this other stuff. There's the guys wide open to blackmail. Who knows what happened there. Hillary Clinton had no right to take those materials out of the State Department, much less ship them round to unclass unprotected places with whom ahm did, and then have her a very very tainted husband, printing them out and handing tourists so she could read them in the bathtub. And what was the repercussion for this? None of those people went to jail. Nothing happening to these people. They all walked. I mean, we got in trouble with those for other things. And the only repercussion Hillary Clinton paid for all of her shenanigans with the with the funny money. I'm sorry, the whole situation with these documents. She walked on that, and I think related to the Russia hoax. She paid a grand total fine of eight thousand dollars eight thousand dollars fine, which is nothing giving her, you know, two hundred and fifty million dollars whatever she and her husband have in the bank. Meanwhile, you've got people like Roger Stone and Michael Flynn who are on the way to jail. You've got people like Paul Manaford who did spend time in jail, George Adoppless spent time in jail, Georgia Eastman, I think they did jail time time. So basically, what happens is that Republicans spend time in jail when again in trouble. What happens to Democrats is they walk. And in the cases of Hillary Clinton, a lot of the rush Oaks people, James

50:03 Comey at the FBI, Clapper and Brennan at the CIA, these people literally literally literally got book deals and TV contracts. Republicans get thrown in prison, Democrats get book deals and TV contracts. These same people, Democrats who did this rush Oaks business and should have been locked up. I turn on the TV and there there are aren't CNN and MSNBC amrock Away getting paid as talking heads, having spent zero time behind bars, zero time even in court facing any any allegations or any any indictments for their for their law breaking. It's it's just disgusting, and the American people have ever right to be absolutely nauseated by this never ending double standard where Republicans actually get punished and Democrats get rewarded with you know, publication deals and broadcast contracts.

50:49 It's just staggering. Well, and the thing is de roy the American people, you know, I don't know, they're just not aware of the news. I mean, are they just reliant just on what CNN? You know what the you know, the drive by media, you know reports because you know, you look at Fox poll this recent poll preference based on issues right, fifty four percent of the electorate trust the Democrats with the economy versus Republicans at forty five percent. How do you arrive at that number on the economy, all that I mean, we're not having to go back. Well, you've got to go back thirty to fifty years to see how the Democrats destroyed our economy. No, all you got to go back is a couple of years and see the four years of Joe Biden what he did to destroy the economy and exacerbate the inflation issue in large our national debt and draw us up to thirty nine trillion dollars. I mean, and you're going to say the Dems do a better job with the economy than the Republicans.

51:53 Give me a break even inflation inflation fifty four percent for Democrats, forty four percent for Republicans. Healthcare healthcare which gave us Obamacare, right, that disaster. If the voter to the tune of sixty over thirty nine percent over Republicans, it's like, no wonder the Democratic Party is being you know, captured by the DSA socialists. Yeah. Well, look this this underscore is the need for Republicans to get out there and have a message for the midterms. And they ow to talk about things like the like the one big beautiful bill in the text cuts that are available for people for you know, no tax on tips, no texts on overtime, tax relief for seniors collecting Social Security. That would be talking about the economy growing, Inflation is up where we'd like it. Unfortunately, Ran War has aucassinated that situation, but it was certainly worse under Joe Biden. We've made great progress in terms of deregulation, in terms of fighting fraud. At the same time, we've seen the Democrats getting in the way trying to protect or. I should say these investigations where Republicans have said we want to look into Medicare fraud, hospice fraud, I mean people disgusting stealing money from people in their last few weeks of life, autism fraud, taking money from autistic kids, as we've sit on Minnesota for example, and in all of those cases, all of most of those cases, the Democrats have said, no, we don't want to give you documents, No we're not going to cooperate. People do look a look into this, they scream and call them racists,

53:25 et cetera, et cetera. So the Democrat Party really has become the party of waste, fraud abuse. They like this sort of thing. They plowed it. They try to protect it, I think largely because this is one of the conveyor belts that they used to deliver money to their friends who then turn around and no technic political donations to them and the knock on doors and harvest ballots, et cetera. And American people need to know about that and the GP if if they want to hang on to the House of Senate, they got to go up there and make that case starting probably like now. Yeah you think, I mean, we're less than one hundred days away, and you know there has that you and I have talked about this repeatedly. They're just seems to be such a lack of urgency amongst Republicans, Like, what do you think is going to happen? You really want to turn our government over to the DEMMO? Seriously, is that what you want to do? And uh, you know, and and for all these people that hate Trump so much, you know, and talking about the big beautiful bill, I'm saying, well, if you hate Trump so much, then go ahead and pay taxes on tips, go ahead and pay taxes on your Social Security go ahead, and uh, you know, whatever increase and pay that you've gotten in the current job reports, then turn that money back over to the government because you hate Trump so much and all these good things that Trump, and I give Trump mostly the credit. You know, Mike Johnson has done a great job, but Yeoman's job, John Thune, he needs to catch up. There an aer sentive to because of you know where we are. Because the American people are going to measure the Republicans not so much for the big beautiful bill. Uh, They're going to measure them based on every on everything else and

54:59 h and the Save American Act. When you've got eighty percent of the people saying, look at voter I d yeah, it's not a problem American citizens voting for American you know, for American president. Yeah, we think that should happen, you know, And they're just laissez fair on this stuff. They've got to make this happen to Roy. I mean, they didn't. They failed, and you and I talked about this last time. They failed with Obamacare, and they paid a price on it. John McCain, thank you very much, thumbs down, thank you, John Yah, Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Well, I wish they had more of a sense of urgency. They seem to have a lot of urgency of a quing on vacation. The House has gone for August. Now, they did pass a whole bunch of stuff for they left, so maybe they earned their vacation. But the Senate has just got this pile of things the House is sent over, including the Save America Act. They're not getting this stuff through.

55:49 And you know, Foon seems to be almost like a travelation. Okay, folks, another trip now. You know. He complained that they didn't have time to do the same voter or debate the Save America Act because they were busy with the judicial nominations and the Defense Authorization Act and the various authorization bills as a appropriations bills, I should say. And then they took an eighteen day break. They took eighteen days off, I mean, unbelievable. All right, take off fourth of July, maybe add that Monday. Perhaps then you get back to work like everybody else in this country. We're we're all working here, knocking ourselves out. And those guys are on't vacation. I think they're going to be gone in another week to ten days. Can take more time off and say, oh, we just have time to do this. The Save America Act needs to go through. As you say, Voter I D is important, people who are US citizens should be the only people who voting in US elections. I mean, call me crazy, you know that's kind of extreme, not lank foreign citizens voting elections, but they shouldn't. And I think also very important, more important, frankly than Voter I D is we need some limits on these mass mail in ballots. The whole idea that all these ballots get blasted out across California, throughout Nevada, I think New Jersey, several other other states, and then the ballot hustlers come in and collect them in California can pick up a stack of one hundred ballots, walk in them to the county clerk, and walk right out the door. They have no idea who you are. I don't think they ask for your idea or your name. You know, who knows where these belts are coming from. Maybe if somebody's got you know, one hundred dust siblings and cousins or something like this. But this could be ballots coming for you know, drop boxes, or just collected from nursing homes, picked up off the floors of apartment buildings where people who are

57:20 dead or relocated to have their mass mail and mail and bounds delivered. They're not there to pick them up. And this is a real problem. And this is that's where the fraud is. The fraud is very, very very little of the fraud is people showing up and saying, hey, my name is Bob Smith and he's really voting on maalf of you know, Tad Gomez uh and the photo ID would correct that. That's a small part of the huge bulk of vote fraud is tied to mass mail in ballots, and we really need to need the limits on that. So the only time you get a mass mail in ballot is if you ask for one, and you should act able to ask for one. If you are disabled, sick and deploying the military, or out of town either in college or in business or vacation whatever, find that's and vote absentee. But this whole idea of just just spraying ballots out all over the place like they do in California, which explains the whole Spencer pre disaster a couple of weeks ago. This has to stop, and the Save America Act will put a restriction on it.

58:13 And John Thune and company, you've got to get their X together and get to get that thing passed. It's important for this November, it's important for Novembers and elections thereafter. And who knows if the Republicans will control the House and the Senate and the White House and the White House next year, but who knows the House and Senate. So you know, maybe now or never, to get that thing through, to go through, we'll have clean elections in this country. If it doesn't, the dirty elections will continue, and that's to the downfall of all of us. Well, he's the Manhattan based Fox News contributed Joy Murdoch has been with us. Thank you to right take care. You bet okay? Great talk to Bill. Thanks, How would you like to save money on nearly all your prescription drugs? We've set up a special toll free number for the RX Outreach Program. They're a nonprofit company whose mission it is to make prescription drugs more affordable to the masses. They don't take insurance, and in many cases, your prescriptions are even cheaper than your copays.

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59:53 Getting America back on track Bill Martinez Live. Six minutes after the top of the our Good Morning America. Glad you could join us. Bill Martinez here along with Mark Manilla. Mark is a host of financial issues. It's a nationally syndicated radio and TV program. Hey Market, morning to you. How are I good? Thank you? I hope you're doing well too, and thank you for having Yeah. It's an interesting time, isn't it. Mark? I mean I keep talking to my friends, I says, can you believe this? We've lived this long to see this kind of I don't know this instability and wackiness that is happening to our culture and our country. But hey, look at We've been warned that we were heading down this path, and now it's totally out of the closet, isn't it.

1:00:40 It is it's been it's been around forever, and that's the thing that irritates me the most. I mean, I'm really happy that they pulled back ninety nine million dollars worth of payments to dead people. That's wonderful that this administration at least is if they can't train the swamp because of all the legality and all the people coming against them trying to that at least can shine the light on it. But ninety nine million isn't a lot of money compared to the rest of the fraud in it. I did a little research bill and one of the things I found out is in the last ten years, there's been over two point one four trillion dollars in fraud alone. These are just fraud payments alone. Think about that, with all the benefits that go out from the federal government two point one four trillion dollars, that's half of our debt. That means that our debt would be down to two trillion dollars if that money hadn't gone out.

1:01:37 That means there'd be two trillion dollars in you're in my pocket and the rest of Americans because that's where the money came from, primarily from our pockets, you know exactly. What can you imagine how that would help the average household? Yeah, can you talk about affordability? Yeah? Yeah, well there you go that you're nailing it right exactly. I mean this is and course, Elon Musk when he first came to town, to d C with Doze and talking about the fraud and waste things that we've been talking about for decades, Mark, and now we finally had somebody that was going to take a look see. And boy, I'll tell you, the the swamp moved quick, you know, to cover and invalidate him in such a way because you know, as they say in military terms, Mark, is that when you're over the target, the flat comes in and the flack was hitting Elon Musk and Donald Trump repeatedly.

1:02:31 Right, oh my gosh. It was like alligators after red meat, wasn't it. They were just going to destroy them. And that's a thing that is really sad. I mean, think about this. This isn't due to criminals. I mean, yeah, criminals, A lot of criminals create the fraud. But the only reason they could do it is because the checks and balances aren't there. As you mentioned, Doze, remember in the beginning, they pointed out that there was literally hundreds of billions of dollars. I'll go with millions, even if you want to go there. If you think we can't prove hundreds of billions that went out without any indication of what this money was going out for, and much of it without who it was going to, that alone should tell you.

1:03:15 After years of audits, warnings, repeated losses, our leaders can't be allowed to continue to say, oh, this was an oversight. We got to hold them accountable. Congress, we have to hold the House representatives accountable for this. When lawmakers know the controls aren't in place, and they're not requiring them to be put in place, that's the true fraud. Well, the incentives are producing the fruit that we have today. Just to your point, all this fraud and corruption has been incentivized, it's been ignored. I mean obvious things that have been going on and on. You know, as we follow the money mark and I'm sure you've seen this as well, is that it's not just these obvious criminals, you may say, But the criminality involves elected officials because because when an elected official, when their number one job is to get re elected, come higher hell water, they've got to get money, and so they're selling their souls out in order to get re elected.

1:04:24 Right absolutely. I mean, think about this. A bill gets passed, hundreds of millions of dollars, billions of dollars is going to go out from the federal government, and they don't build in any checks and balances into that. They don't build in that. It is required that they do the basic accounting every business in America has to do and report to the government. You know, if I pay somebody over six hundred dollars in a year, I have to send them a ten ninety nine so the government knows who got that money. Okay, But they don't have to do that. With the money they're sending out to every benefit, they don't have to have a name on it or an organization. You know, Bill, let me let me throw a scenario by you. You tell me if you think this is a possibility. Let's see the federal government, the House of represented as the Senate, they send out money, they to an ngo, then ng sends it, disperses it to multiple NGOs, those NGOs send it to nonprofits, and then the nonprofits end up not having to report or show where that money went, but it goes. What happens if some then that money goes back into the politician's pocket exactly as a candidate. Is that a possibility?

1:05:39 Bill? Can you see that happening even in America? I mean, come on, it's even a child can see that happening, especially when Congress could legislation most of this fraud out of every bill they write. The idea that we are electing people who aren't smart enough to be able to do that is foolishness. It's not intell it's not an issue of intelligence. Mark That's exactly right. The bottom line is people do that which they get rewarded for, and the system has been set up in such a way that our elected officials are getting rewarded for the wrong behavior. This is why we the people must take our country back. We must take control of our.

1:06:22 Countess amen to that bill, and that is so important. This message has to get out there. We're at the end of the leash now. Our debt is over four trillion dollars. I've heard numbers on the interest alone is over a trillion dollars. Think about that. Yeah, the three are military. Out of the taxpayers pockets going just to pay the interest on our debt. Okay, we can't sustain this. And once a dollar, once the debt goes over the cliff where we can't sustain it, the dollar will lose its place in the world as a currency for trade around the world. When it loses that, it will lose its power in the United States. Inflation will become hyperinflation, and we'll start going into a depression and it could take ten twenty years to get out of that. If we ever get out of that. People, I have concerns about communism and socialism taking over America, but the debt is the key that will cause that to happen if we allow it to keep going. The debt is now the reason for debt. The reason half our debt is fraud, and purposely I mean purposeful fraud. Not just not just the bad guys you know sitting in Nigeria pretending to be a prince, but in our Congress right now allowing this to happen. We have to elect godly conservatives that will put this country back on the path that God first ordained us to be on. You know, I believe

1:07:54 in God. I believe our country was founded on the concepts of Christianity, capitalism, and freedom, and I believe those three together are very powerful. We're losing that because we've lost control. And and you know, we can blame the House of Representatives, we can blame the Senate, we can blame so many people. But when it comes down to it, we're a republic. We do the voting, we decide who goes in there. We have to hold them accountable. My predecessor to financial issues, dan Celia, he used to call them spineless weasels. And that's very important because we need to get the spinalless weasels out of there. We need to get people who are going to do the right thing, even if they don't get re elected. We need them to do the right thing right now because we're at the end of our We're going down a river towards the falls, and it's gotten to the point to where we can't back paddle fast enough anymore.

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1:14:34 to realize that gravity still exists. I keep telling people, Mark, and that is immutable, and we're going to hit the ground. It's gonna it's and it's going to be hard, and it's going to be very painful, and the level of that pain will be in direct correlation to how how quick we respond. You know. It's like I often use that analogy. Remember the pennzoil commercial. It says you could pay me now or pay me later. The inference was if you paid later, it was much more complicated, much more expensive. And this is where we are right now. Either we realize that this is a nation was born out of the principles. Like you said, there were godly principles. I believe that God's hand, divine guidance. Our founding fathers repeated, repeatedly said that this was the case. This was an absolute miracle the way our country was developed and brought into being and to become the world's superpower. This didn't happen because of George Washington on his own, or Madison or Jefferson. I mean clearly this was the hand of God, Mark right.

1:15:36 It was the wisdom, it was the strength, It was the faith in these men, men that came from God, that God used to ordain this country, to allow us to have this country. We have a responsibility to stewart our citizenship and elect the right people. And we need to do that, and we need to do it now this election. I know you hear it every year. This is so important. But guess what this is what could easily happen. And this is the way communists and socialists have taken over so many countries. Is first they destroy the country financially by promising all this free stuff to everybody. So those people who don't want to work, the lazy, the lazy in the country, those people who would just like to get just enough to get by, they vote those people in, not realizing that the next step that happens after communism stakes over is they line those people up and they shoot them. You know, you can get rid of them because they're unproductive, and the Chinese needs you to The communists and the socialists need you to be productive so they can stay in power and be elite.

1:16:47 So we have to watch this our debt. If our dollar collapses in any way, that gives the socialists the opportunity to step in and start promising people, we'll give you all the food you need to shelter and the clothes, and that'll last for a couple of years before they start lining people up and we start hearing gunshots. So we're near the end of the rope here, Bill, And I'm so glad you're out there preaching this and letting people know because this election, if you need to vote in the people, that will change things. If if President Trump, if this administration had a Senate and a House representatives that would get behind him, they wouldn't just be shining a light and occasionally being able to recover this money. Remember, every time they tried to do anything, there's four hundred and thirty seven thousand lawsuits that go against them from me.

1:17:38 So what if they had a Congress behind them, they could get these bills passed. They could drain the swamp. We could pull back on all this and get in a place to where we could start rebuilding America and away never seen before they've done that. Anyway, Let me let me share a couple of things. Do you mind if I share just just since the beginning of this administration, since the peak of the last administration. You talk, You mentioned affordability. You know, this is the big lie that they're putting on us. First of all, real wage growth all but one year of the Trump administration has been positive. Real wage growth means that wages have grown faster than even the inflation. Okay, so that's one. Secondly, they say, yeah, but still inflation. Once inflation hits, the prices don't go down.

1:18:28 Let me share something. Lumber has gone down over sixty percent since the last administration. Televisions and appliances have gone down anywhere from twenty to thirty percent. Eggs are down any well, they were down more but twenty seven percent. Used cars and trucks are down over fifteen percent, video equipment down over fifteen percent. Other furniture down over thirteen percent. I mean it just go computers, peripherals, smart homes, appliances down over twelve percent. We're actuously seeing the costs of things come down. But you don't hear that on the other news. You don't know because they're they're lying to us and buy into the government needs to take care of you. Well, there's enough, there's enough people out there who don't don't want to be productive, who want to be taken care of. That if if they keep telling this, they'll say, yeah, just take care of me. I'll be fine just getting by. But you won't. Because we know biblically, it's biblically sound, it's emotionally sound. People are only happy when they're productive.

1:19:36 Bottom no, no, no question, bottom line, You're you're exactly right, Mark. And the thing is is that we have raised a generation that grew up with performance trophies. You know, if they if they scrape their knee, you know, everybody when you know, catatonic and you know, overreacted to it. We've coddled a generation to where if they if they get a booboo, it's the end of the world, you know. And uh, and here it is. You know, they were told if you went to the right school and you indebted yourself, you know, a couple of hundred thousand dollars, you know that you were you were gonna be okay. Well, here they go, they graduate and they come out, they don't have a job, they're they're living with their parents, and you know, and you know they're not getting married.

1:20:26 There, and then they've been told to expect to get a five bedroom of five five bath, three car garage on three acres in the luxury part of town. When you graduate high school or college, you should expect what your parents work thirty five forty years to get. That's what they're taught in college. Because they're trying to destroy this nation. You know, that's but the whole nation, you know, the whole economic system has been under attack, as you said, Mark, for a long time. They've been chipping away, you know, the cost of living inflation, even though there's there's been an effect upon the effect here. But meanwhile, some of these things have been baked in the system. You know, housing regulations, government regulations, all these things have contributed. If you follow the money, and you see that our elected officials have all been part and parcel. And I don't mean to blame them all, but I'm just saying, is there's no light whatsoever being placed on them. You and I this is a rare conversation in the cultural sphere right now.

1:21:25 Now. That saddens me, Bill that it is, But I do thank God for you being out there and there are few others. And if we let our voices be heard, and we continue to make it heard, maybe this election will change the course despite the same. But the say back, the say back, We've got to do something about holding the integrity of your vote. You know what, I. Am just astonished that the that the Democrat Party one hundred percent of the elected officials are fighting against Save It Act. How is that possible that anybody would want to do that? You know? Did you know that you had to get a special I D just to go to a restaurant during the COVID thing? Okay, but you can't get an ID to vote?

1:22:18 Yeah? I mean be real. Uh you want you want to go to Obama's library, Yeah, you need you need an ID to get in there. Exactly. How about this one? I saw that somebody did research on the reparations laws that were passing in California, in a state or two, to try and pay some people because their great great great great grandmother was a slave. Isn't it amazing that they can do the research to come up to ID themselves and trace it that far back. But but the Democrat Party says they're not smart enough to be able to get an id right now to vote. It is. It is rich with irony, There's no doubt about it. Mark. Really, they're convinced that we're just stupid, you know.

1:23:06 And the thing well, they are convinced of that, and they believe they're smarter than us, and they believe they can convince us of everything. And you know why, because of what's happened over the years here. But you know who got elected last It was Trump. You know who got elected before that? Trump? But they put invited anyway, you know who got elected before that Trump? And if you look at all this what's going on, there's still there's still a remnant of very powerful remember that phrase, the silent majority. Yes, I pray and hope and I am believing that it's still there. Yeah, this year, let's make that silent majority get vocal at the voting booth. Yeah, they can no longer be silent. Our country is counting on you. We need you, We need you to come forward. Mark Manella. He's the host of Financial Issues, a nationally syndicated radio on TV program, Mark, how can our folks be in touch with you?

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1:29:02 I think that's you know, the thing that we found with this survey that we did with Harris Pole was that you know, a lot of folks do you understand that accessibility has to be part of that AI conversation. But we're finding that more than half actually may not see that as part of the conversation, and so the risk there is that we might be leaving some people behind. Well, as you say, as AI is becoming part of everyday life, in experts like yourself are saying that these tools need to be accessible from the start. Otherwise, as you know, as dynamic as this isn't as quick as it's moving, if you're not at the starting line and already you know in the race, you're going to get left in the dust.

1:29:42 Absolutely, And I think you know, one of the things that folks tend to think about with accessibility is that, oh, it's something we do at the end, like we'll make everything, you know, the way that we want it to be, and then we'll go back up and and we'll clean everything up. And the problem with that is then you're having to go back and touch the work again, and you know who has time for that? Nobody, right, So when you build accessibility in from the outset, you're then designing with accessibility in mind. You're making sure that any of the inputs or the prompts that you're using with AI, that they actually consider accessibility, and you likely then are going to create a more accessible output, which then means that folks who use assisted of technology or just maybe process information differently than the rest of us have that information and are able to access that at the time that they need to do what it is that they.

1:30:30 Need to do. Well, Kelly, this survey is quite revealing. So what does it say about a solution here? So I think what we found there was a couple of things honestly built to answer that question. There was one of the things that we found is that folks really want to see clear expectations in their workplaces AI policies, and so if the AI policies are not referencing accessibility and what those expectations are, that's a great place to start because that's a document that usually gives some guidance to everyone else. The other thing that I thought was really interesting from our survey responses was that sixty percent of AI users have seen their knowledge of and ability to use accessibility standards and guidelines actually improve because they've used AI. And that included seventy four percent of our AI enthusiasts in the survey. So it is an incredible learning tool that can bring that information into one place, so it can then improve what it is that you're doing in the future from there on.

1:31:28 You know, Kelly, you've addressed something that I think is really important here for the general I guess, the general application of AI in terms of in the workplace, and by general I mean the environment, how people are accepting this, that they're understanding that this you know, we're pioneering here and there's going to be some mistakes, there's going to be questions asked, and people should understand that we're in that phase of this journey to where we're all filling different parts of the elephants and blindfolded so to speak. Right, No, absolutely, And I think that you know, I love that analogy with the elephant, right because we talk about that a lot that you know, you can eat an elephant, but you have to do it one bit, day at a time. And the other piece and how that relates from an accessibility perspective, is we talk all the time that accessibility is a journey, it's not a destination.

1:32:20 Technology is ever evolving. I mean, you know, just look at the conversation we're having about AI. We wouldn't have had this same conversation a year ago. Bill. You know, things are changing so quickly and so rapidly, and companies are as they're doing their development work, are improving things so that folks, you know, can get more usability out of those environments. But also every time you touch that product, you have the chance to either make it better or you could actually make it worse. And so the other risk here is that you could introduce barriers when you're trying to remove them. And so being you know, aware of that and understanding how you know AI works and what you know those models actually are and how it you know, refers back to that reference material is really important because it can't think independently for you.

1:33:04 You have to tell it what it is that you want it to do. The good news here, Kelly, is not like is that it's not like we haven't been introduced to technology before. You know, we have ridden this bicycle. You know, it's a little bit you know, it's a new thing and there's new language that goes with it, but the mechanics are still basically the same, are they not? To a degree, I. Think they are, And I think that, you know, one of the things that you see in terms of you know, the use of technology, the advancements, and let's talk you know, specifically here about medical technology. You know, there are folks you know, with disabilities now who are surviving diagnoses that they may not have twenty thirty years ago. And so therefore that technology, the evolution of it, not only is allowing them to continue living, which is a phenomenal thing, right, but also it's changing the way that their environment works with them and how they work with their environment. So AI is something in my fee field that we've been using for a while. It's been assisting us for a long time in trying to figure out how we take those digital built environments and make them more accessible. So if you think about those early days of YouTube with the automatic captions, I mean, they were hilarious because there were so many mistakes in them. And now when you sit down and you look at those automatic captions, it has improved considerably because of the fact that we're using this technology and the technology has continued to evolve.

1:34:28 Kelly, how's ethics coming into play here? So that's a great question. And I think that ethics, you know, always has to be at the forefront, you know, in these conversations. And you know, so responsible use of AI means you know, including accessibility as part of that. And you know, from my perspective, because you know, it is allowing us, you know, to be able to say, we want as many people as possible to be able to use this end product. And if we think about building in these accessibility standards and referencing the guidelines, then we're going to be able to do that. So from one perspective, that's you know, for me, the primary conversation when it comes to ethics. But I also think that we have a responsibility to keep humans in the loop.

1:35:10 And that's something that we found in our survey as well. Our respondents want to see human oversight of artificial intelligence, particularly where this is important for accessibility as you look at the accuracy of those outputs. So we can't just trust that the AI did what it is that we told it to do. We have to be able to go in and check that. And the captions example is a really good one for this too. You want to make sure, because captions are part of your communication, that you're actually communicating accurately what it is that you intended to And so we have to have some human oversight in the mix with AI and not just you know, the goal here isn't just automation, it is you know, also to do so accurately. Well, like everything that we've experienced with technology, you know, it was always crouded, is always going to replace human involvement, It's never replaced human in its almost like would you quit lying about this? I mean, somebody's got to operate the machine right, or at least you have turned it on.

1:36:07 Yeah, absolutely, and guide it right, you know, and you know, be able to implement it in a way that's going to benefit the most people possible. And so I agree with you. I think, you know, sometimes we hear sound bites out there, you know, and people are looking for those kinds of reactions. But the reality of it is is that when we use this and leverage this as the tool is intended to be, it's very powerful and it has improved the lives of individuals with disabilities. You know, think about it probably in your home, I know, in my home, there's multiple voice assistance in my house that we just talk to it and it does things for us. And so you know, that is something that we all use, but also greatly benefits a lot of folks with disabilities because it allows them to you know, interact with their environment and create their environment in a way that makes it, you know, more usable for them.

1:36:56 We're talking Kelly Hermann, vice president of Accessibility and Student Feris at the University of Phoenae, speaking of people with disabilities. I mean you've addressed this as well. Yeah, with you know, and with people with disabilities. You know, I think you know, thinking about the month of July and thinking about in July of nineteen ninety is when the Americans with Disabilities Act was signed. And if you think about what our life was like in nineteen ninety compared to now, you know, AI didn't existen I mean, you know, the internet and the way that we use the internet wasn't you know, a thing back in nineteen ninety. And so you know, when we think about, you know, the way that you know, our lived experiences, those of us who have disabilities or those of us who do not, you know, there are you know, different ways. You know that we utilize that technology to be able to do the things that we you know, some of us take for granted every day. And you know, so when we use accessibility principles in the digital content tools and resources that we create, we are making it so that folks can get the same information, they can enjoy the same interactions, and they can be able to complete the tasks that they need to be able to complete the same as everybody else. And that's actually the goal here.

1:38:06 Thirty seconds left here Kelly, what can employers educators do now to create more inclusive AI environments and where can they go for more information? Sure? So, I think the first and foremost thing for me is get started. If you haven't actually you know, integrated accessibility into what it is that you do, you know, start doing that now you could be able to catch up. And I think the results of our survey will be really instructive, you know, for folks as they're thinking about that, thinking about how to build it into their policies, their training, and then their workplaces. And they can get more information at Phoenix dot edu Slash AI Accessibility. Kelly Herman, vice President of Accessibility in Student and Faris of the University of Phoenix. Thank you, Kelly, take care, I have a great day. Thank you you too.

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1:42:28 Thanks John, you heard it. Folks, take advantage of this opportunity and call now eight hundred eight three zero five zero five zero. Advertisement sponsored by Legal Health Center. May not be available in all states. Not available in California. Hey back, Why they're glad you could join us. Bill Martinez here along with Adam Holts from plugin dot com. Mister Adam, how you doing great? How are you doing? Hey? I'm doing I'm doing terrific. I get it to It's it's an interesting time right now in our culture. Sure is man the best and the worst of times all coming at the same intersection. And I almost feel sometimes I'm like at a NASCAR race, just getting ready to watch something, you know, collide and explode.

1:43:16 You know, man, Well, it seems like there are no shortage of collisions in our culture. And it seems like, you know, for a while, the left felt like it was in the ascendancy in the mainstream culture with cancel culture, and if you, you know, took one step out of bounds, you were immediately dismissed and tarred and feathered metaphorically speaking, and you know, sent off to be by yourself for a while. We're seeing more and more voices I think, just challenge that, you know, I think with Riley Gains began to push back against the narrative, you know, with regard to the trans conversation, and it's just it's interesting to me how that's unfolding. And you and I obviously have talked a little bit about that before today's show as well.

1:44:09 Well. Yeah, and of course we're seeing quite quite the pronouncement, particularly in the w NBA of all places, and you're thinking, you know, and of course we've been watching this increase in violence, I mean out out violence, especially targeted against a oh yeah, a white player. You know, at a time when you think, hey, look at we're getting beyond this racial divide and you know, Supreme Court decisions. You know, I think we're getting behind it. But it's like the w NBA has not got the memo. Well it has. And the crazy thing is, you know, this is a story that's been unfolding really for about the last three or four years. And if you're not in the know, Caitlin Clark played for the University of Iowa and on I full disclosure, I am an Iowa alumni. So we watched her when she was in college and she's just a phenomena. And why that matters is she has brought relevancy to the n WNBA that it probably has never had before. I mean before she entered the WNBA, not only could I not have told you the name of a single player, I couldn't have told you the name of a single team. I mean it was a complete empty set, right, And so she has brought in a lot of fans like me. You know, I would say basic.

1:45:28 You know, my dad would call it assault of the earth, Midwestern types who never really had paid much attention to a league that was known for having a lot of black players and a lot of lesbian players. Frankly, and that's not me, you know, making some sort of accusation, that's the nature of it. And in the last couple of years she has been a lightning rod for controversy. And then another person on her team, the Indiana Fevers, Sophie Cunningham, who has been not only out spoken about her faith, but recently just you know, went full JK. Rowling and said, you know, girls, girls and boys or boys, we don't want to mix them up here. And what seems like a basic common sense pronouncement has been met with burn her at the stake intensity and and perhaps because the w n b a IS has been a very activist league on the you know, LGBT side of things, man, the pushback against her has been fierce. And just two nights ago, the Fever were in Seattle and there were two teenage girls that were basically verbally assaulted by one of the co owners of the franchise. I mean, imagine, you know, you know, pick your owner who's the Dallas

1:46:58 cayble Jerry Jones. Imagine Jerry Jones walking up to somebody wearing a Washington, you know, commander's jersey and using the harshest profanity possible and saying, you know, you're blankety blank insane. It's it boggles the mind, right, But they they the the level of drinking the kool aid is so great here that to them, they think that they can with immunity target with violent speech. And then there were two teenage girls that were pushed around by somebody. There was somebody who spit on a fever fan.

1:47:39 And you know, if. You're on the right, the slightest, you know, deviation from what the left perceives as the right course of action results in lawsuits and protests and violence and you know all of that. But you can spin on people, you can abuse teenage girls, you can call them really horrible names. As the double standard is staggering to me just to watch it. But but there's pushback against it. I think people are growing tired of it, you know. Well, And the thing is is the right has to stand up against this, yeah, and and fix there, as the Bible says, fix your face like a Flint. You know, you've got to hold solid on these things because the fact of the matter is is that the left is very mean spirited. They're they're in civil and and the kind of stuff I mean from adults. This is happening without adults on young girls that are there as fans.

1:48:32 You need fans of all color shape form to come out and uh and support the cause. And here you are the w NBA, like other you know, woke organizations are supporting a cause that represents a very small fraction of the community. And the thing is amazing, it's it's amazing where we are right now. I mean, we're we're like we're like in the age of Germany. When you think about what it took to control one hundred percent of Germany, all they took was a small percentage. At the end of the day, I think they said approximately about ten percent of Germans who were Nazis, only ten percent controlled ninety And I mentioned the other day that look what's happening in Minneapolis. You got eighty two thousand Somalies running the state of Minnesota.

1:49:22 Think about that, and they've got designs on Michigan and New York as well. I mean, they've been so successful in Minnesota that they're colonizing other big places, and they are not quiet about their aspirations to completely take over. And now you know, if you have somebody who complains about the Muslim prayer, you know they're branded somehow doing something illegal. It's crazy, right, and the courts are backing it up, just like they did in Germany. And all this stuff, it's all at goball the mainstream media. I mean, you look at what's happening in the Democratic Party. Okay, in only in twenty sixteen, let's just go twenty sixteen. In the modern era, Bernie Sanders had six thousand followers of the Democratic Socialists six thousand, Okay, that was enough to create some havoc for the Hillary Clinton machine, right, and there were some backroom deals made. Bernie says, okay, I'll live another day. Fast forward. Here we are, you know what ten years later, not quite ten years later. Yeah, and now the DSA has a membership of only one hundred and twenty thousand people. Now this is nationally one hundred and twenty thousand people. Look at all that they've hijacked the Democratic Party.

1:50:36 Well they have, and the thing is shifted so far to the left that Bernie Sanders practically looks like a conservative compared to the radical French Party. Yeah. Yes, people, I'm speaking facetiously of course. No, No, what I mean. Yeah, it's okay. I mean in you're exactly and he needs to be careful because it's dynamic and the left is moving with each day and each pronouncement, and they're allowed and they're given space. I mean even the point. I mean on the Sunday Morning Show on Fox. Uh, you know, Shannon Breem is talking to the co chair of the DSA and she's just asking her direct questions, you know, about the economy, about immigration, about police, about crime, about uh, you know, about government that and just straight up okay, do you want to get rid of the Senate? Yes?

1:51:22 I mean it was no, it was just no. And it was just straight up. I mean, here is their party platform, which is totally against the constitution. So why is there a party running that has some sort of representation in a country that has a constitution and they're promoting, you know, measures that are antithical to it. No, that's exactly right, and you know it might not seem immediately self evident. How we can jump from talking about the w NBA to some of these political things and what that has to do with plugged in. I mean, I think sports is in the realm of entertainment. Well, it's all part of culture. Well it is.

1:52:03 And and we continue to see these battle fronts for the hearts and minds of Americans. And I'm heartened again that that Sophie Cunningham has stood up, yes, and she hasn't flinched. And these two and these two young girls in Seattle, yes, exactly, and how many others you know, So look at there needs to be a rallying of common sense, and there needs to be that pushback. And uh, and yes, there's going to be a price to be paid there, there's no there's no question. You know, many of us have already paid that price. We got, we got docs, we got you know, we got put on you know, internet time out, social media time out, you know, for the four years of the Biden regime. And uh, you know, and here we are and what are we guilty of?

1:52:49 I mean? And also then you have a young man who is trying to speak common sense to kids, to try to you know, get them to open up their minds a little bit to consider what they have been told. Is it a truth or is it a lie? And they and they assassinate. Him, They assassinate him, right, And that's you know again, we've got to keep talking with our kids. And that's what we do it plugged in is we want to equip you to think through your entertainment choices. And by the way, go check out our full review for Spider Man Brand New Day, which had more profanity and some suggestive stuff than I was expecting a little bit disappointed with that. It'll be huge this weekend. But because all of these ideas and worldviews permeate our entertainment, our news, our social media, and if you're not thinking critically about them, you're going to be shaped by them in ways that you may not even recognize. And that's especially true of kids growing up today.

1:53:44 Well, where we are right now, it's God versus the culture adim and we know what happened historically. You know, you've got a choice to make. You're either with God or you're without God. And hear me out, and I say this in all love and consideration for you and for your future. Choose God. Okay, yeah, choose guys. Yeah, And you know I have in my decades of experience, I've made my mistakes and when I did not choose God, and experience has taught me, just like the law gravity, it's always better when you pay attention to the law of gravity. I had a friend once tell me. He said, you don't break God's law. God's law breaks you. And I thought, boy, that puts things in perspective.

1:54:26 Right. You can think you're getting away with something, but at some point when you jump off the cliff, you're going to hit the ground and it's going to hurt. Just ask Wiley Coyote, right, And we'll get to him later this summer. We're not quite there yet. He's coming back on the big screen later this summer, so well outstanding. Can't wait for that. Adam Holtz, Adam, where are you from? Tell everybody I am from plugged in dot com and we review movies, music, television, video games. Sometimes we talk about sports and other you know, cultural things, and we are a ministry of focus on the family. Thank you, my friend, God lasts take care. Yeah. Thanks. We call ourselves Asap Travel for one reason. We can help you book a ticket asap. For those of you that don't know That means as soon as possible. That means no waight time, you get through right away, no searching online. Our specialty is the lowest available fares on the big name airlines. You know them, we can't tell you their names. You can fly domestically or internationally and save more money than you could if you call the airlines directly. Our proprietary software goes underneath the hood of the major airline booking systems and find you the best rates available. So if you're ready to make your travel plans right now, business or vacation travel, we have all the major airlines always at great rates. Call asap Trips and we'll have your ticket in your inbox in fifteen minutes.

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