July 31, 2026
The Bill Martinez Show 07 31 26
The Bill Martinez Show 07 31 26
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Are you ready?
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Yeah, okay's doing Ill Martinez Live a program about current events,
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our culture, our values, our politics, and our future. And
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now Bill Martinez.
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Hey, good morning, welcome, Good to have you with us.
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Bill Martinez here with doctor Curry Myers. He's back with us.
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Always an honor to have him here. He is the
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applied criminologist, academic, academician. That's always a good fun word
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to say, author, consultant and retired Shriff Curry. Always good
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to have you with us. How are you, sir?
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I'm doing well. I'm glad you could say it. I
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never can.
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Well yeah, yeah, but you put it in your.
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People.
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Yeah, it's good fun. Well, thank you, you're successful. Okay, So,
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now that we got that out of the way, eager
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to talk about what you just wrote about, and that
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is that behavior leaves evidence. What doctor Vauci's COVID era
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diary can teach us about investigative thinking, right.
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Yeah, exactly. I mean when law enforcement officers and I
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spent thirty six years in counting towards the business. I
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was twenty four years on the job as a police officer,
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different levels, worked many homicides and public corruption cases, and
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always you're looking for a motive, and motive plays an
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important tool. And one of the ways you find motive
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is through evidence looking at evidence, and this includes documents
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that you find in a search, warrant scene, and documents
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can be in many different things, to include people's own words. Bill,
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So I mean when somebody writes something down or often
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videotapes or in today's use of social media, you go
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over social media applications and you'll actually find out behaviors
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and instincts because what happens Bill over time, people will
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fall back to what they know best and what they
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do and what really is inside their own ethos, if
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you will, from a personality and behavioral point of view.
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So when you determine that the important reason you want
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to use it as an investigator as you're gathering information.
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Just because somebody said something doesn't mean that that's an
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advocation of guilt, of course, but it leads us to
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wonder why and how and when and answer those questions
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and then be able to use them to do very
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good interview techniques and then be able to come up
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with a better idea of what's inside the person's mind
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when they were doing something. And so Fauci's diary, which
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he probably never envisioned that it would be released to
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the public, but it has gives us some important information. Again,
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it's not an indication of guilt of some one thing
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or another, but it tells us a lot about the
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person and what their behaviors are and what kind of
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things that could lead up to as a result.
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Right. I've often said that people's self indict Yeah, all
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the time. Right, I mean, if you just listen and
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here it is because it is who they are. Just
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again in terms of you know, your background and and
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your work as a sheriff. You know, we often hear
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motive defined for our audience. When you say motive, what
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do you mean by motive?
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I'm looking at reasons why somebody may take the position
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that they do in a particular case. So motive can
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be think of the Seven Deadly Sins as an example.
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I like to put frame framework things according to faith sometimes,
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but motive can be why is the why is a
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person doing this? And there's all kinds of reason. There's greed,
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there's sloth, they may commit it because that ring. There's jealousy,
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there's lust. There's all kinds of reason why. But the
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number one thing that always comes back to me is
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the adage follow the money. And when you follow the money,
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then you come up with pretty good ideas of what
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the criminal intent is. And sometimes you can have a
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couple of different motives that blend in together. And so
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in this particular case, again there is information that are
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contained within the writings and what he has said personally
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that could lend to some sort of motive. Now, again,
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motive doesn't mean guilt. It just means it's opening a
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door for us as investigators to peer in and then
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you'll start gathering evidence and information, and then that will
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help determine whether or not the person needs to be
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completely investigated, which I believe he does. I'm not saying
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he's guilty of something, but there is enough there for
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any kind of investigator to say, I need to know
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more about this. And we do know Bill that he
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has made money off of COVID nineteen, and he has
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made fain off of COVID nineteen that has resulted in
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profitability for him. And then you know, don't ever forget pride.
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Pride is the number one sin that most people commit,
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and that pride can lead to some culpability when it
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comes to criminal intent as well, or trying to especially
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cover up something so you could do something that is
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a mistake, an accident. Maybe you thought it would was
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purpose purposeful, but didn't realize the unintended consequence of your actions.
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And then all of a sudden, when you realize that
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something did happen, sometimes the bigger crime that occurs is
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the cover up.
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Yeah, when it metastasizes, absolutely absolutely, Now, yeah, this is
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the thing, you know. I thought it was interesting one
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hundred and eleven times doctor Fauci took the fifth, you know,
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and I guess in part we can understand that. I
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thought at one point I thought, well, maybe what the
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senators how to do is ask a question and let
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the diary answer the question.
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Yeah. Yeah, of course he wasn't going to answer, and
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which I was surprised because he has been very forthcoming
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in previous interviews and again part of his interviews, he
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has demonstrated his behavior, Bill, I mean, his behaviors are
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are almost like the entries into the diary, you know,
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and how he acts. But I actually thought for him
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taking the fifth, which is his right to do, but
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he has demonstrated openness before, and now all of a
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sudden taking the fifth on the same subject subject matter
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gives me pause for concern. He has every right to
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do so. I, in fact of attorney would have probably
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told him to do the same thing. However he hasn't
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done it in the past, and that again shows a
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particular behavior.
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Now.
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I think the senators were able to which a lot
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of them are lawyers, and many of them have actually
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appeared in court. They understand the premise behind it, and
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they answered. They asked many questions right, and then they
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answered those questions for him in many ways.
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Sometimes just asking the questions curry right.
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Sometimes just asking the question and let it. I I
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when I train young police officers or students in my class,
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I always recommend us being quiet as often as we can.
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I think police officers the best investigators. It's the mantra
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that I often followed is that you ask a question,
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they need to be open ended, because you don't want
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to give something to narrow You want to have them
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fill in the color behind the numbers, if you will.
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You want to have them go with it, and then
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you start asking follow up questions that can start narrowing
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things down. After you open the you have these open
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ended questions and I think they were able to ask
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some of those, but they also ask questions like what's
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the color of your tie?
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Right?
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And the reason the go ahead, Well, the reason they're
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doing that is they're showing there is no Fifth Amendment
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protection on the color of one's tie. It's simply a
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question that can be asked. There's you're not going to
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be arrested or you're not going to be charged because
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you answered green or building if he has a blue
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tie and he says green, it's not like you're you know,
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you're going to be arrested for those things. But what
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they're doing there, in my opinion, is trying to show
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evidence that his Fifth Amendment protection is bogus. So and
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and there is an argument federally on whether or not
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someone can take the Fifth Amendment if they've been given immunity,
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which and that was supposedly has Yeah, that was the
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author of the Advent of Feral Men. He is the
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applied criminologist, academician, academic acady. There we go again. I'm
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I was found in a term and I said, I'm
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going to hit it this time because we could be
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here for a while, ladies and gentlemen. But academician, author,
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