June 19, 2026
The Bill Martinez Show 06 19 26

The Bill Martinez Show 06 19 26
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Are you ready, Yeah, Okay, let's do it.
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Ill Martinez Live a program about current events.
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Our culture, our values, our politics, and our future.
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And now Bill Martinez.
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Hey, good morning, welcome. Six minutes after the top of
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the our Bill Martinez here with the Middle East expert himself,
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doctor Michael Rubin joins us. Now, Hey, Michael, always good
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to have you with us. How are you, sir?
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Thank you, Bill, It's always great to beep talking with you.
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Well, what a what a mixed bag? The last couple
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of weeks have given us, you know, some wins, you
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might even say, some losses for President Trump. But at
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least as he comes back home he finds out the
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New York Knicks are going to visit the White House.
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Maybe that's a positive, right.
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As a Philadelphia and I'm not so sure it's a
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positive what we're saying.
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Well, but at least we got, you know, I think
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this is maybe the first you know, NBA team I
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think champions that have visited the White House and a
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long time, especially with Yeah.
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No, I mean, seriously, it's welcome because we need to
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stop taking the politics out of everyone. The President of
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the United States is the president of all Americans. Regardless
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of whether we're Democrats or Republicans.
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Well, and of course, we had that big event last
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weekend with the you know, with the what is it
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the I want to say NFC, but it's not. It's
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the w the cage fighting, the cage fighting. But I
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can't I just can't even believe. I can't remember, you know,
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the day for something like that. Yeah, yeah, but anyway,
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and all all went well, but then here we find
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about this incredible plot.
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Yeah.
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Well, thank god our men and women in uniform are
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actually on top of things. Again, whether you're a Democrat
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or Republican, we need to understand that we are going
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to be targeted by our adversaries who are ideological adversaries
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and don't distinguish between where how one votes at the ballot.
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Box exactly and here it is. I mean, kudus for
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the FBI and the great work that they did secret service.
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I mean, Michael, this could have just been incredible. I mean,
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this could have been another Las Vegas event.
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You're you're absolutely right.
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At the same time, Bill, what I'm afraid of is
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whether it's because of our own domestic political rhetoric, the
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polemics of opposition and so forth or whether it's seeming
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stumbles on the world stage have led our adversaries to
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to basically smell blood in the water and believe that
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they can become even more aggressive in their desire to
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destroy the United States.
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Just so I cleared up UFC Ultimate Fighting Champions. That's
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I mean, that's the deal anyway. So that's that's out
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there UFC, so we we know for sure that that's
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what it was. And but you're exactly right going back,
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we're being attacked because we are vulnerable, and also we're
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still dealing with anywhere fifteen twenty million illegal immigrants taking
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advantage of the open borders. I don't know what the
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Democrats were thinking to put America in you know, everyday
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citizens in such danger, and why anybody would think about
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voting for a Democrat until they get this resolved, It's
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beyond me, because they have contributed so greatly to this
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insecurity that we're now dealing with.
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Well, you know, I wish that the Democrats are those
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who want to embrace this concept of open borders, would
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remember that in twenty twenty sorry, in twenty twenty four,
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many Latin people of Latin American descent had actually voted
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for the Republicans because they differentiate between legal and illegal immigration.
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They differentiate between those who follow the procedures versus those
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who are sent flee line jumpers. On top of which,
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even in an international sense, the United Nations High Commission
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for Refugees is going to be celebrating it's the seventy
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fifth anniversary of the Refugee Convention, and they are embracing
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a back to the future mentality, going back to the basics,
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where frankly, there aren't economic refugees. There are people who
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are fleeing conflict. And when they flee conflict, they don't
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get to choose where they end up. They simply remove
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themselves from from conflicts. So if you're Venezuelan and you're
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fleeing conflict, you can go to Columbia, but you can't
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necessarily expect to get political asylum in the United States.
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Right Well, And the thing is is what and what
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opened that up, Michael, because you know that was the consideration,
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and you'd hear that in the rhetoric, you know, even
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in the recent years, that they should go to a
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neighboring countries because it only makes sense that they would
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do that because the neighboring countries know the immediate danger,
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They know the danger it's happening in the neighborhood. They're
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more accustomed to the culture, and maybe having them assimilate
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and fit in a little bit easier than traveling thousands
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of miles and coming into the United States of America.
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You know, we're actually again seeing this elsewhere in the world.
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Bill.
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The government of Thailand has now given Burmese work permits
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because they realize that having a refugee population which isn't
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simply taking but is contributing, can be a good thing
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on their border. Likewise, Poland is dealing with the fact
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that they don't want the Ukrainians to go home because
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they estimate the Ukrainians have added three percent of their
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gross domestic product. But if you encourage refugees simply to
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go to the places with the biggest social safety nets,
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then ultimately you don't have that benefit. And so this
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is the problem. The refugee should stay where they're out
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of danger. They can contribute to the economies there, but
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they shouldn't simply be able to put their hand up
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and say I want to go to the place that's
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going to give me the most money, and I don't have.
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To work right exactly. Speaking of Ukraine, you just got
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back from Ukraine, give us an update.
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You know. I was in eastern Ukraine in places like
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Parkiv and di Nipro and Zaporiza, and what I saw
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was amazing the resilience of the Ukrainian people.
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Bill.
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I went to a school that was established by the
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United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees in an underground nuclear
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bunker in Karkiv to see the kids so that they
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could continue the school year not be on zoom like
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we were during COVID. Also, when I was traveling around
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the country, they have you download an app, and the
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story of that app is really interesting. The app will
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tell you when there is an air raid alert. You
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basically put it like.
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Much like Israel. Right, Israel has the app same.
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Right, basically it's much like Israel. But what basically happens
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or what the background to this is when the war started,
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Ukrainian tech guys dropped everything, walked into the Ministry of
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Defense and said we're gonna need this. We can give
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this to you, and within a week.
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It was up and running.
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If only we had such agility within our own Pentagon
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and our defense procurement for what's needed. We could really
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take a lesson from Ukraine. But the other thing I
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walked away from was that NATO needs Ukraine more than
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Ukraine needs NATO. Because of all the countries in Europe,
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I think the Ukrainians, maybe the Poles are the only
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ones who can still fight. The French and the Germans
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can debate and talk about international law, but I'm not
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sure how much they actually contribute.
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Well, and that's a great point. What about the food supply?
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How is that? I mean, we know from day one
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it's been affected, and here they are the bread basket
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of Europe. How are they managing that much?
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Well, you know, the Ukrainians are both proud of their
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food supply as well as being proud of their cuisine
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as well. That said, the issue with Ukraine isn't its
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ability to produce the food. It's the ability to export
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the food, which the Russians and so forth are trying
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to prevent them. That said, of course, when you have
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so many men at the front, and for that matter, women,
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it impacts labor and so forth, So there's an issue.
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But you know, I was recently in Ethiopia, people were
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much more worried there about the impact of the Iran war,
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the lack of fuel and the ability to get food
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from the countryside into the cities. I didn't get that
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sense in Ukraine.
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So the big takeaway for you from Ukraine, I mean,
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and their resilience is unbelievable that they'd like I.
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Came away thinking number one, that they are much more
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able to win this war than I believed before I went.
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Number two. You know, Bill, we've talked before. I'm very
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much critical of the United Nations. I was amazed by
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what the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees was doing
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there because basically it was keeping Ukrainians in the country
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so that if they've managed to stabilize the situation and
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within five minutes of a missile strike, they will be
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there providing aid, providing assistance, providing boards to put on
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the windows and so forth. This is the way organizations should.
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Operate exactly quick break time. Doctor Michael Rubin will be
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