The Bill Martinez Show 06 19 26

0:00 Are you ready, Yeah, Okay, let's do it. Ill Martinez Live a program about current events. Our culture, our values, our politics, and our future. And now Bill Martinez. Hey, good morning, welcome. Six minutes after the top of the our Bill Martinez here with the Middle East expert himself, doctor Michael Rubin joins us. Now, Hey, Michael, always good to have you with us. How are you, sir? Thank you, Bill, It's always great to beep talking with you. Well, what a what a mixed bag? The last couple of weeks have given us, you know, some wins, you might even say, some losses for President Trump. But at least as he comes back home he finds out the New York Knicks are going to visit the White House.

0:46 Maybe that's a positive, right. As a Philadelphia and I'm not so sure it's a positive what we're saying. Well, but at least we got, you know, I think this is maybe the first you know, NBA team I think champions that have visited the White House and a long time, especially with Yeah. No, I mean, seriously, it's welcome because we need to stop taking the politics out of everyone. The President of the United States is the president of all Americans. Regardless of whether we're Democrats or Republicans. Well, and of course, we had that big event last weekend with the you know, with the what is it the I want to say NFC, but it's not. It's the w the cage fighting, the cage fighting. But I can't I just can't even believe. I can't remember, you know, the day for something like that. Yeah, yeah, but anyway, and all all went well, but then here we find about this incredible plot.

1:42 Yeah. Well, thank god our men and women in uniform are actually on top of things. Again, whether you're a Democrat or Republican, we need to understand that we are going to be targeted by our adversaries who are ideological adversaries and don't distinguish between where how one votes at the ballot. Box exactly and here it is. I mean, kudus for the FBI and the great work that they did secret service. I mean, Michael, this could have just been incredible. I mean, this could have been another Las Vegas event. You're you're absolutely right. At the same time, Bill, what I'm afraid of is whether it's because of our own domestic political rhetoric, the polemics of opposition and so forth or whether it's seeming stumbles on the world stage have led our adversaries to to basically smell blood in the water and believe that they can become even more aggressive in their desire to destroy the United States.

2:44 Just so I cleared up UFC Ultimate Fighting Champions. That's I mean, that's the deal anyway. So that's that's out there UFC, so we we know for sure that that's what it was. And but you're exactly right going back, we're being attacked because we are vulnerable, and also we're still dealing with anywhere fifteen twenty million illegal immigrants taking advantage of the open borders. I don't know what the Democrats were thinking to put America in you know, everyday citizens in such danger, and why anybody would think about voting for a Democrat until they get this resolved, It's beyond me, because they have contributed so greatly to this insecurity that we're now dealing with.

3:30 Well, you know, I wish that the Democrats are those who want to embrace this concept of open borders, would remember that in twenty twenty sorry, in twenty twenty four, many Latin people of Latin American descent had actually voted for the Republicans because they differentiate between legal and illegal immigration. They differentiate between those who follow the procedures versus those who are sent flee line jumpers. On top of which, even in an international sense, the United Nations High Commission for Refugees is going to be celebrating it's the seventy fifth anniversary of the Refugee Convention, and they are embracing a back to the future mentality, going back to the basics, where frankly, there aren't economic refugees. There are people who are fleeing conflict. And when they flee conflict, they don't get to choose where they end up. They simply remove themselves from from conflicts. So if you're Venezuelan and you're fleeing conflict, you can go to Columbia, but you can't necessarily expect to get political asylum in the United States.

4:42 Right Well, And the thing is is what and what opened that up, Michael, because you know that was the consideration, and you'd hear that in the rhetoric, you know, even in the recent years, that they should go to a neighboring countries because it only makes sense that they would do that because the neighboring countries know the immediate danger, They know the danger it's happening in the neighborhood. They're more accustomed to the culture, and maybe having them assimilate and fit in a little bit easier than traveling thousands of miles and coming into the United States of America. You know, we're actually again seeing this elsewhere in the world. Bill. The government of Thailand has now given Burmese work permits because they realize that having a refugee population which isn't simply taking but is contributing, can be a good thing on their border. Likewise, Poland is dealing with the fact that they don't want the Ukrainians to go home because they estimate the Ukrainians have added three percent of their gross domestic product. But if you encourage refugees simply to go to the places with the biggest social safety nets, then ultimately you don't have that benefit. And so this is the problem. The refugee should stay where they're out of danger. They can contribute to the economies there, but they shouldn't simply be able to put their hand up and say I want to go to the place that's going to give me the most money, and I don't have.

6:10 To work right exactly. Speaking of Ukraine, you just got back from Ukraine, give us an update. You know. I was in eastern Ukraine in places like Parkiv and di Nipro and Zaporiza, and what I saw was amazing the resilience of the Ukrainian people. Bill. I went to a school that was established by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees in an underground nuclear bunker in Karkiv to see the kids so that they could continue the school year not be on zoom like we were during COVID. Also, when I was traveling around the country, they have you download an app, and the story of that app is really interesting. The app will tell you when there is an air raid alert. You basically put it like.

6:57 Much like Israel. Right, Israel has the app same. Right, basically it's much like Israel. But what basically happens or what the background to this is when the war started, Ukrainian tech guys dropped everything, walked into the Ministry of Defense and said we're gonna need this. We can give this to you, and within a week. It was up and running. If only we had such agility within our own Pentagon and our defense procurement for what's needed. We could really take a lesson from Ukraine. But the other thing I walked away from was that NATO needs Ukraine more than Ukraine needs NATO. Because of all the countries in Europe, I think the Ukrainians, maybe the Poles are the only ones who can still fight. The French and the Germans can debate and talk about international law, but I'm not sure how much they actually contribute.

7:48 Well, and that's a great point. What about the food supply? How is that? I mean, we know from day one it's been affected, and here they are the bread basket of Europe. How are they managing that much? Well, you know, the Ukrainians are both proud of their food supply as well as being proud of their cuisine as well. That said, the issue with Ukraine isn't its ability to produce the food. It's the ability to export the food, which the Russians and so forth are trying to prevent them. That said, of course, when you have so many men at the front, and for that matter, women, it impacts labor and so forth, So there's an issue.

8:34 But you know, I was recently in Ethiopia, people were much more worried there about the impact of the Iran war, the lack of fuel and the ability to get food from the countryside into the cities. I didn't get that sense in Ukraine. So the big takeaway for you from Ukraine, I mean, and their resilience is unbelievable that they'd like I. Came away thinking number one, that they are much more able to win this war than I believed before I went. Number two. You know, Bill, we've talked before. I'm very much critical of the United Nations. I was amazed by what the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees was doing there because basically it was keeping Ukrainians in the country so that if they've managed to stabilize the situation and within five minutes of a missile strike, they will be there providing aid, providing assistance, providing boards to put on the windows and so forth. This is the way organizations should.

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14:16 Welcome back Bill Martinez here with doctor Michael Rubin, the director of polse is at the Analysis at the Middle East Forum. Michael, just to put a wrap around Ukraine and your recent visit there. What we're hearing is that both sides are tired. They're kind of looking for an exit and maybe hoping that Donald Trump can help negotiate a settlement here between Putin and Ukraine. What do you think, Well, first of all, Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski has offered direct talks with Vladimir Putin. Unfortunately, not too many people believe that this could actually come to fruition. The other problem is, and let's face it, though, it's the elephant in the room. After seeing how Donald Trump negotiated with the Iranians, I'm not sure anyone wants Donald Trump to be mediators for their own conflict right now.

15:05 Donald Trump, back on January third, twenty twenty, had tweeted that Iran had never won a war, but never lost in negotiation, and unfortunately that seems to be the case. And just pushing this a little bit more forward, I saw in Persian language today in nor News, which is an Iranian outlet close to the Supreme National Security Council, that Mohammed Baker Kalibaf, the chief negotiator and the Speaker of the Parliament, had said that Iran had won in negotiations far above what it could have won militarily and far above its own expectations. For the Ukrainians to believe that Trump will negotiate on their behalf rather than simply try to get a short term calm, they're not going to accept.

15:48 That, right, Yeah, they want something long lasting. You know, throughout this whole negotiation. Speaking of Iran, you know, I've looked at it. In fact, I said, you know right off the bat, this was the memorandum of misunderstanding. Because there's just so many narratives coming out of there. What can you believe in? And we know the leadership of Iran, you know, they've lied, they cheat. I mean that, like anything, like any negotiation or any agreement, it's only as good as the people who are participating in it. And I don't have a lot of you know, trust and confidence in the leadership of Iran. Well you know what, Bill, I happen to agree with you. And when I look at the agreement, I think some of the Trump administration spokespeople do protest too much because when they're complaining that this is so much different than joint Conference, the plan of action, you can see that's where their nerve is and the fact of the matter is when you look at it in terms of sunset clauses, in terms of the continuation of the nuclear program, in terms of not addressing missiles or proxies, it's more or less the same thing. But what worries me are two things.

17:00 First of all, Donald Trump's promise to lift the sanctions, as my colleague at the American Enterprise Institute has shown, I mean, this is an illegal promise. I mean Donald Trump doesn't understand the legalities behind sanctions, or the fact that he doesn't have the ability simply to waive them in some cases. The point number two, and I've written about this for the National Security Journal, is I'm worried about the poison pill, which I see in this. When Iran came to Donald Trump and said, we want you to include a cease fire so that Israel stops attacking has Belah, the proper response for Donald Trump should have been, if you have a problem with Israel, Iran, you can negotiate directly with Israel. Unfortunately they haven't. Now in this case, you've got a situation where Israel, if there's not a ceasefire, if Israel attacks has Below, then the Iranians can walk away from the agreement with their twenty four billion dollars, perhaps with their three hundred billion dollar fund, and blame the United States. Now, the fact of the matter is from Israel's perspective, this allows Iran to rearm Hazbelah and to engage in that prinksmanship. Now you know I'm a historian, Bill, and so let me put on my historical nerd cap.

18:21 We saw a similar dynamic in nineteen ninety four with South Korea when Bill Clinton was negotiating for the Agreed Framework with North Korea. The president of South Korea at the time, I think it was Kim Sung yang had was so frustrated that the Americans were cutting him out of negotiations and engaging the North Koreans with such wishful thinking. He wrote an op ed in the New York Times blasting the Agreed Framework, and Bill Clinton trained all of his animosity on the South Korea, the democratically elected South Korean president, rather than on the North Korean dictatorship. And I'm afraid the similar dynamic is developing with regard to Israel, where we're punishing our allies in order to rescue a terror entity.

19:12 So what happens, which happens already, is that you know, Hesbela fires missiles into Israel, like Israel isn't a sovereign nation or not to protect themselves. Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. And remember in this current conflict, of course, Hamas attacked Israel during a cease fire. A lot of people forget that on October seventh, twenty twenty three, it was the greatest massacre, single day massacre of Jews since the Holocaust. But on October eighth, twenty twenty three, Hesbelah unilaterly decided to join into the fight, and tens of thousands of Israelis haven't been able to return to their homes in northern Israel. Make no mistake, Israel is the victim here. Now, if Donald Trump really wanted to cement his legacy, there's a reason why the Israelis and the Lebanese have advanced their diplomatic process to the greatest extent in more than forty years, and that's because they faced a common enemy in Hesbelahela is a terror threat to Israel and it's a threat to Lebanon's sovereignty. Unfortunately, Hesbela wants to be the spoiler and in his desire for a quick deal and assigning ceremony, I'm afraid that Donald Trump has really thrown the elected government of Lebanon under the bus and undercut any possibility that they could actually have a diplomatic breakthrough with Israel.

20:43 What kind of impact is this going to have, Michael, on the rest of the Arab nations that are you know, looking at, you know, enjoining with the Abrahamic Accords. I mean, we had this potential all coming about, but it has to be I mean, they've got to feel good about it. And right now I see that this is put in jeopardy as well. Am I missing something? No, You're absolutely not missing anything. Again, Look, I'm sitting here in Washington, DC, and obviously I'm not part of the Trump administration. But what I think Trump should have done to really solidify our alliances and our reputation among other countries in the region. This frozen Iranian money, which is in banks throughout the region. Instead of saying we're going to unfreeze it and give it to Iran, what we should have said is we're going to unfreeze it and give it to Kuwait to rebuild their international airport that was struck by Iranian missiles.

21:41 We're going to give it. To Abu Dhabi and to divide to rebuild their hotels and their airports. We're gonna give it to any country which was struck by Iranian missiles and drones as reparations paid for with Iranian money. That would really show leadership, exactly, show that we will care about our allies rather than throw them under the bus at the first opportunity. I mean, what a missed opportunity speaking a witch right, I mean, how did they miss that? I don't fully understand. But when push comes to shove, Donald Trump is the commander and the chief, elections matter, and he perhaps was listening a little bit too much to some of the Pakistani mediators rather than some of his own advisors, which again is why we see some tension reportedly within the Trump administration by those who are in favor of the deal and those who really wish that their concerns were transformed. But let me put it this way. Bill, You know, I'm a constitutionalist. I tend to lean more towards the libertarian side except when it comes to defense. But another thing we have in common now with President Obama and the Joint Conference. A plan of action was a desire to bypass the constitutional parrogat to go to the US Senate for anything that amounts.

23:03 To a treaty. And whenever we don't, we've learned this lesson now twice. Without having the Senate chime in on this and vote on this, what we end up with are very bad deals that put all Americans in peril. Well, what we're hearing out of DC and the Belt where you're right there is it's a hornet's nest right now. To your point, yeah, it absolutely is a hornet's nest, and unfortunately deservedly so. But you've also heard my hornet's analogy before in a different context that when you have a hornet's nest, you have two good options. One is to get rid of it. Another good option would be to leave it alone. But the worst possible option is to sit underneath it lightly tapping it with a stick to go halfway. And unfortunately that seems to be what we've done.

23:52 Are we back to war? I think we are eventually going to go back to war. Look from Israel's perspective, Iran poses an existential threat. Iranian missiles Iran's nuclear program and so forth, and the nature of an existential threat. Whether you like Israel or you dislike Israel, is that they're not going to defer to diplomatic amelioration. Yes, they feel that their existence. Is at stake. Remember the Israeli navy drives more German submarines than the German navy does. Going back to how weak NATO has become, and if Israel feels it needs to attack directly, I have no doubt they will.

24:32 Yeah. Doctor Michael Rubin, the director of Policy analysis at the Middle East Forum. Doctor Rubin, thank you so much, appreciate it. Michael, take care be well. Thank you Bill. Do you have Medicare and do you use a SEAPAP machine. This is a national healthcare alert regarding your SEAPAP supplies. Using a clean seapap mask and clean supplies is important to staying healthy. The best way to make sure your SEAPAP equipment is clean is to get new supplies. If you have Medicare, we have great news. Medicare will pay for you to have new clean supplies every ninety days. We'll even do all the paperwork for you to make sure that there's little to no out of pocket cost to you, and you don't even have to leave your home.

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28:38 So that's good. Yeah, hopefully hopefully we can You know this thing can resolve and you know, we figure out, you know, the right solution. You know, of course you've got Barack Obamba out there trying to be relevant, claiming that you know what Trump is doing, you know, and he doesn't have all the details, which is kind of interesting, like so much of the media, because if they know what's going on, but yet we still have, you know, have yet to found out find out exactly what's in this. I call it the memorandum of misunderstanding. And I think misunderstanding more targeted not towards Donald Trump, but towards the media and those that you know, are attempting to somehow, you know, be breaking news and be the first one to know about it. But I don't get it.

29:23 You know. Well, as you say, a lot of people want to be first rather than right, so they run and say, oh, the deal's got this, this, this, and this, and nobody know. They're just speculating, speculating, or they're hearing it from anonymous sources who may or may not have any idea what they're talking about. So I'm sure in another day or two, or maybe even today, we'll get more details. We'll know what's in it. I believe it's supposed to be signed in Switzerland on Friday. I think cern Switzerlandhi's a lovely city, by the way. Uh And maybe, of course once at that point when they signed it, I assuming it, I'll be public. But let's hope that this in fact puts the arrangeings in a box. The things I want to see in it are that they're not gonna have any atomic weapons. They're going to hand over their uranium to either US or the UN or the Arab League or somebody to get it out of there. And I want to see them stop sending money to Hamas and as the law and who des all the other terrorists in the world, and that they have some respect for their people.

30:14 I don't know if it's going to turn into a constutional republic tomorrow, but maybe if they weren't cutting people down in the streets, that might be a good start. Yeah, exactly, Yeah, it's you know, we can only attempt some optimism. I'm pessimistic frankly. As I've said all along, is that we're dealing with the death cult and this isn't something that just started a couple of years ago. This has been generational deroy and they only know, and you know, you think about the Middle East, they're probably it's almost you know, you go back to Germany and you realize that maybe there's only about ten to fifteen percent, maybe you know, barely fifteen percent, but ten percent were the radical ones. They were the evil Germans that did all all this massive carnage and destruction and you know, trying to take over the world. And eighty five percent just you know, somehow thought that this was a mad dream.

31:13 They're going to wake up. You know, something was going to happen. But it was fifteen percent controlling eighty five percent. And it reminds me a lot of what's happening here in America today. You got the lunatic fringe, you know, a small percentage controlling the majority, and the silent majority has got to speak up. I mean, if anything, we're kind of learning from these people who are coming in for the World Cup, right, and they are more optimistic and celebratory over BUCkies and in and out burgers and Americana tradition and take me home country roads and all that. You know, it's like these people are coming here and they are reminding America of why America is so exceptional.

32:00 I heard some somebody who came over for the World Cup saying, make sure everybody comes over to visit. Uh. Spend some time at a Walmart. And these people walking to Walmart and their eyes are just popping to see such abundance. And I mean the smallest Walmart's got to be the size of what five football fields or something crazy like this. Uh. And you go in and it's just aisle after aisle after aisle after aisle after aisle of as many consumer goods as you can imagine, from you know, cosmetics to home goods, to electronics to garden home and gardening type of products. I mean, pretty much anything under the sun in these enormous, just massive, massive stores that you know, just go on almost you can almost see the curvature of the earth when you're standing in them. And a lot of these people coming from places where, you know, you go to the supermarket, it's a little a little tiny thing, you know, maybe the size of a cathedral or something like that, or a small chapel, I should say.

32:50 So. I mean that's just one example. And I did see some other folks who took some time away from soccer and went into a national park or something like that that were just amazed at the natural beauty of this country. So as you're right, you're correct that sometimes takes people from overseas to remind us of what an amazing place this is and how lucky we are to live here, and how lucky so many of us would have been born here. Well, maybe the silent majority would be encouraged to speak up. You know, we must push back. You can't allow the lunatic fringe to take over. And you know, the media is all participating in this, and we've got to quit listening to people that are misinforming us and continue to take on the responsibility of our own knowledge. You know, we need to put the effort in to know what it is that we believe and what we understand is opposed to being told by somebody who is disconnected from reality and the truth and are driving an agenda like what these modern democrats socialists are doing.

33:52 Well, you say that these folks the radical fringe of you know, kind of the tailwagon the dog. I sort of push back on that a bit. You know, you look at the vote record of the Democrat Democrats in the House and in the Senate, and it's not like there's just a small handful of crazies in the squad, and the rest of them are kind of trying to restrain them or pull them back. I think it's the other way around. I think that those guys are practically mainstream compared to most of the other people in the Democrat caucus. If you look at the vote records according to the Club for Growth, I believe, the American Conservative Union, and I think there's a third index. I think it's the Center for Legislative Analysis, if I remember correctly, and you look at them for the last congress, the entire full congress, because we're only halfway through this congress. You take a look at the Senate, and Bernie Sanders among the Senate Democrats is like the second or third most conservative most senators, I think, if I remember correctly, like twenty or twenty one Democrats senators to the left of Bernie Sanders, And same thing. In the House. You've got Acostia Alexander Cossio Cortez, who's sort of the grand dame of US Democrats socialism in the US House, and there are lots of people to the left of her. So so you know, I think we like to think that Bernie Sanders and AOC or as far as you know, as crazy as it gets.

35:07 The Democrat Party, you know, their their mainstream, if not actually conservative, based on their vote record compared to the colleagues, which is absolutely stunning. The Democrat Party is basically turned into the American Communist Party without the hammer and sickle. Yeah. Well, and and this is what makes it a bit confusing. But again, who's who's standing up against them? Though, deroy, you know, because you've got you've got this. The one thing about the Democratic Party, even in the midst of you know, the lunatic friends or whatever you want to call it, Uh, they're still pretty much you know, lockstep in pushing against Donald Trump and a conservative agenda. Oh that they are completely and even on things for which they've been screaming. You know how many years when the Democrats say, oh, pharmaceutical price, pharmaceutical prices are too high, we want lower drug prices. The drug companies out of control, blah blah blah. And so Trump starts this thing called trump RX where he's been going in or his people have been going in and negotiating lower prices with the drug companies. Something called most Favored Nation status where US consumer people participate in this program, won't spend more than the lowest price available overseas, something like that. I have problems with the way that's set up for a number of economic reasons. I fear that it may limit the amount of revenue that drug companies can have to do future research, which is a big problem. But anyway, be that as it may. The Democrats finally getting what they want, which is lower drug prices. You think these people would be doing cartwheels instead. You have the women on the view attacking it, saying this is all Trump's plan to

36:37 poison people. I mean, these people are psychopaths. There's nothing this man can do to make them happy. If Trump is fort they're against it. If he came up for more research for breast cancer, more federal funding for breast cancer research, they'd say, well, you know, why are beating up on breast cancer. Be nice to breast cancer. I mean, these people are really, really sick and twisted, and they're so completely consumed with hatred for this man that they're just unable to think straight. And so unfortunately they think in a very very twisted and crooked fashion, and. It's unfortunate because they influence other people to think along the same lines, and they're so siloed deroy that they've lost their mind. I mean they have no awareness and consciousness of what's happening outside of their silos. Just they're so ideologically fixed.

37:22 Right, Yeah, I think that's a big problem and another thing from their standpoint. For example, you've seen efforts on the part of the Trump administration to go after fraud, which we've seen in welfare payments. We've seen it, yeah, for hospice care, I mean, my god, ripping off people who've got three weeks to live. We've seen autism fraud where people are taking money from kids with autism. I mean, this is sick and disgusting stuff. And rather than cooperate, let's say you're right, this is absurd. We want people who get benefits to get benefits who deserve them, not people are ripping off people the most vulnerable among us. I mean, who's more vulnerable than artistic kids and people with you know, three or four we used to live from cancer or Alzheimer's, whatever it might be. And instead you find in California and other states the government saying, no, we don't want you to audit our records, get your hands off our papers. We're taking you to court. We don't want to show you where the money's going. So even when it comes to fighting criminal fraud against the programs that these democrats love, they don't want to cooperate.

38:21 I mean, it's just no, no, no to anything and everything that Donald J. Trump tries to do. It's really breathtaking. Well, we've got to go to quick break. We've got more from Deroy after this stay with us. Everything is expensive right now, gas, food, you name it. You're spending more. You are making the same or less money. So what do you do? You rack up credit card debt. That's what you do. It's not your fault, it's the economy. And guess what If you rack up too much credit card debt, like some of us, you can't pay your bills. Then the credit card companies, as nice as they are, start hounding you for money. Then you start your downward spiral. A smart thing for you to do is to call the zero Debt. They can help you consolidate all your credit card bills into one affordable payment. Millions of people have done it. It works to make you debt free, make this free call right now. It costs you nothing to learn more.

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42:32 The Manhattan Banks. Fox News contributor de Roy Murdoch continues with us, and Deroi gets to kind of, you know, summarize what we talked about here. It is an upside down world. You and I have been saying this for years, and it just you know, you keep thinking, Okay, when is this insanity gonna fight itself out and just go into the ashbin of history where it belongs. You know, I keep thinking, at some point there will be a bottom of all this, and you know, we've seen the crazy story out there that can be and then nope, next day, something else happens and I say, all right, well I thought we had bedrock. Nope, better rock is still another ten feet down. So you know, we keep going down, down, down, every day a little bit more. Whether you're talking about welfare fraud, you're talking about crime, you're talking about criminals who get arrested, they get released, they get picked up again, they get released, and they just continue creating more mayhem and chaos and bloodshed until they finally kill somebody. And then usually at that point they's all right, well we better lock this guy up. After somebody has raped somebody or raped children or whatever else it might be. I keep reading one terrible story after another about illegal aliens have come to this country broken under Joe Biden even previously, and bad enough, we say, all right, let this guy have a driver's license, you can drive to work. No, no, that's not good enough.

43:48 Let's give these people commercial driver's licenses and let them drive eighteen wheel big rigs into innocent Americans and kill them. We've seen this over and over and over again. And as you say, at what point will the craziness stop? I'm not sure when, but I don't think it's going to be need anytime too soon. Well, we've said this, you know, anecdotally over the years, that the heart and soul of America has compromised. I think that if Tokville was to come to modern day America, notwithstanding you know, the people coming from the World Cup, he might see America. Yes, still to a lens. I think the majority of Americans are fair minded, they're good people.

44:32 But he would also have to report on this on the soulless part of our society, that is, you know, for the sake of power and control and you know, I say selfishness. You know, they have abandoned the rules of law and freedom and liberty, which is the bedrock of what America and the American dream is all about deroy. Well, you know, I think that's have a lot of Democrat lawmakers. I mean, what they're really interested in is, you say, power, but also control. These people are not happy unless they're barking orders at us when we wake up and got out of bed until we crawl back into bed, and some cases even beyond that. I mean, they love nothing better than telling people what to do all day long. That's their heart and soul, their bread and butter. So that's part of it. And then on the other side, among the regular common citizens, I think a lot of people, especially a lot of younger folks, really get off on acting up, misbehaving, doing crazy things, things like going into stores and trashing them or saying, hey, everybody, let's all show up at a xyz mal at four fifteen pm and just take out as much merchandise for free as we can, and of course put it on Reddit, put it on Instagram, put it on x make sure all your friends see it, put it on social media and get clicks. Hahaa. Isn't this cute? And I think that's driving a lot of craziness out there. It's just this narcissistic desire to be out there on social media and gain sort of a digital street credit, if you will, and that's driving a lot of mayhem.

46:00 Uh. You know, these destructive meetups the teams do in Los Angeles and hymn the meet at street corner and just spend their spend their cars around in circles. That sort of thing. Amazing. So yeah, it's really bad. And then and sometimes very often this isn't just theft, it lapses into violence in mayhem. So you know, I think unfortunately that the a lot of social media, just being on their phones, being on their machines devices all day long, is just rotting people's brains and screwing up the American character. I'm afraid, right, you know, the lawlessness and the thing is, you know, you mentioned before the fraud and corruption has been going on, and this has been going on, you know, just not recently, It's been going on for decades. If the truth be known, you know, even Elon Musk when he looked at it, felt, you know sincerely that he could find at least a trillion dollars in fraud. Well we found out real quick that. You know, there are some politicians they love their fraud. You know, fraud has been very good to them, right, Uh.

46:57 Yeah, Bill, I think that there are politicians who are cashing in on this fraud, if not directly, then through their friends. You know, a lot of what the left does is spend money, not directly out of the treasury, there's certainly quite a bit of that, but giving money to money to NGOs, non governmental organizations, these nonprofits, et cetera. A lot of them sure do honest, decent work, but some of them are just basically on the take. The money goes to these NGOs, they then give maybe a little bit of it to the poor, a little bit of it to beneficiaries, and then a lot of them just take this money and pocket it. And we found, for example in Minnesota, is something that I believe Nick Shirley Losers to spend spectacular young independent journalists discovered that some of these people engage in the autism fraud. We're cashing in on money intended for autistic kids. Many of them were in the Somali community and then taking that money and pocketing it, pocketing it and not even necessarily just putting it into their own community, which would be bad enough, but then taking that money and buying literally buying sports cars, you know, buying asrietis, friars, et cetera.

47:54 And then another unbelievable instance, one of these people will maybe more than one. We're going out and building up real estate empire in Kenya. So we take our heart earned American tax payer payers money, send it to Minnesota, help kids are autistic, so they can get the services that they need because they can't take care of themselves. And the money ends up building up a real estate empire. Not in America, too bad enough, not Minnesota, Wisconsin, but in Kenya. I mean again, this whole thing, it's like living inside of a giant Saturday Night Live sketch. You and I could not sit down and hallucinate the kind of stuff that's happening on a daily basis in this country. And then they turn around and part of the money is why the Democrat politicians are for this, is that these people then turn around and make campaign donations to the Democratic candidates who then get elected and keep the wheel spinning. So, you know, Tim Waltzon company may not get the money directly. We find out that some of these people, Keith Ellison, for example, the attorney General of Minnesota.

48:48 He got money from a lot of the Somalis from engaged in this fraudulent situation, and I don't think it did much of an effort to investigate them. And now we know why that these turned out to be not just criminals but also campaigned owners to people like Keith Ellison and I think people like Tim Waltzon, a lot of other liberal Democrats. Well, they caught Allison on tape. He's recorded, that's right, yees, caught hand in the cookie jar, crumbs all over the face. I mean, yep, come on, yep, exactly. Yeah, there is there is a There is a recording where he sat down at Somali's they were talking about, you know, how much money they were going to give give them for his campaign, and he said, okay, well you know it sounds great to me, and boom off off they go engaging in the fraud and in turn not being not being investigated very much by the Attorney General of Minnesota.

49:33 Should have been on top of this saying you people are criminals, you're crooks, crooks, you're stealing from artistic kids. Shame on you. You're going to jail. And instead, these people didn't get much trouble until the Department US Department of Justice finally went after them. And now some of these people are paying the price for their for their crimes. But they weren't paying much of a price when they were being overseen by the Democrat Attorney General of Minnesota, Keith Ellison, who pretty much looked the other way, as did Tim Waltz, the governor. Yeah, von Tim as. We call him, right, Yes, And speaking of all this, the Somali's uh, you know, the Muslim invasion into our country. And you've got Graham Platner, you know, the modern as you write, the Democratic Party's fresh airy in face.

50:19 Yeah, it really is something, you know. I mean, there's dangers, there's dangers at every frontier. Deroy absolutely well, you know you got what this guy, Grand Platter is a really very totally disgusting individual running now for you a Senate in Maine as the as the Democrat nominee. And we've known for for some time there's been discusseding at least last October, that he's has had this tattoo on his chest, not just a swastika, which would be bad enough. The swastika, of course, the great emblem of Nazi Germany. Uh you know, I guess theoretically could say, well, he got it because he's a big fan of Erwin Rommel and he was oppressor of Erwin Rommel's tank combat tactics. Or maybe he's a big fan of Lenny Rifins Thall the woman who did Tryumph the Will, which I must say, is a very well done movie. I think everybody as evil as as Hitler was and her propaganda was, it's a very well made film.

51:12 I think anybody and everybody who's ever seen it would say that. Okay, so maybe that's why I put on a swask. Okay, that would be bad enough. The actual emblem he had with the tattoo we had was the Totenkopf, which is German for death's head, and this was the insignia used by the SS death squads which ran around Europe after the Nazis invade of Poland and Russia and elsewhere, rounded the Jews up, put them on train, sent them to Auschwitz Treblinka soby bore other chel no other death camps, and then marched them into the gas chambers, then took their cadavers out, burned them in the crematory and sent the remains up the chimneys. Okay, that's what the totenkov means.

51:53 It doesn't just mean, you know, oh, Hitler's there, let's march around in boots and have a good time. These are the people actually killed, Jews, killed Gypsies, gay people, Slavs, the whole thing. I think a grant told about twelve or thirteen million people killed in the death camps. That's what the Toltenkoff means. And that's what Graham Platner had on his chest for eighteen years before he finally covered up and made it look like a dragon or something like that. And he said, oh, I didn't know what it was. I have no idea what that was. Well, one of the women he abused, and he apparently abuses women as well, woman who he twisted her arm and then locked her up in a trapped her in a bedroom, she says that he called it this is my talkting caffee used that term, and I always pronounced it with a foreign accent. So according to her, he knew exactly what this was. And I can't imagine. We're for eighteen years and nobody came up to him, said Hey, you know what that symbol means. That's kind of weird. But anyway, that guy, knowing all of that, has all been on the record for about ten months now. The Democrat primary voters in Maine didn't say, oh, we don't want that, We're going to vote for Janet Mills, who's a liberal Democrat governor, and she was still on the ballot. Instead, they knew all this. They voted for Grand Platner, basically the Nazi communist domestic abuser, and he won with seventy four percent of the vote. It wasn't even close. Amazing, And the Democrats who've endorsed them with one or two exceptions, still endorse and they still back him. They say things like, well, he went through a tough time after he got in the military. Let's give him some grace, let's be forgiving.

53:18 These are the same people who wanted to hang Brett Kavanaugh on the national mall because of completely unproven I think lies on the part of this woman he ford about what he did as a teenager, and she had no evidence to present other other than some very flimsy charges. You couldn't even think you know what the date was and where the exact location of this supposed you know, team molestation happened or whatever the charge was. They were ready to run this guy, just toss him in the Potomac, and instead you've got grand plat Plantner. We can see the tattoo, the remains of the tattoo. There's some old photos of him with this Nazi tattoo. And the Democrat Party is willing to look the other way. Well the same same time calling Trump and Mega Mega people and Republicans all Nazi. So we're a bunch of Nazisi even though we don't have Nazi tattoos. But the guy with the Nazi tattoo gets the Democrat nomination of the United States Senate in Maine. It's, as he say, upside down world.

54:10 Yeah, well, ladies and gentlemen, you've been warned. And uh and it just, i mean it's almost deroy. It's almost like every week it's just, you know, just like in the case of Graham Plattner, there's another shoe. He's got so many shoes falling on the ground, and Melda Marcos is getting jealous. I'm just saying, you know, absolutely yep. And you know, people talk about, you know, his personal quirks. He also fantasizes about masturbating inside of a port of sand one of the portable toilets. He said he found the blue chemical smell sexually arousing, and then bragged about that on Reddit social media. I mean, my god, it's that, you know, whenever I'm in one of those things, I want to get out of there as I don't want to spend two seconds more in there than I have to. And he says, okay, there's a this is great. I'll pleasure myself in there. I find it erotic. What a twisted guy.

54:56 And then new policies. This guy is super left wing. This guy has is a declared communist. He's a described with some as a communist, not just a democratic socialist, but as a communist. So basically, what you've got is a communist with a Nazi tattoo who beats women and masturbates in portable toilets. This is the face of the modern Democrat party. Here. It is the Manhattan based Fox News contributor Jeroy Murdoc Deroy, thanks appreciate it. Take care of Medhill, thank you very much. Streaming TV is where it's at. It's not about cutting the court anymore. That's old news. It's all about your customized TV options with the best and cheapest high speed Internet and your own TV subscriptions. We've got your dream TV lineup between wired and satellite internet and TV. You now have tons of options, save money and get more internet speed and better TV today by calling the Whole Home Connect, we scan your location and offer you the best TV and Internet options, and we always have specials and promotions. So when you call, ask about that. Take five minutes of your time. Make this free call now and learn how to save money and get better Internet and TV for your home anywhere in the US.

56:07 Make this simple and free call now. Eight hundred six nine nine oh three five eight eight hundred six nine nine oh three five eight eight hundred six nine nine oh three five eight. That's eight hundred six nine nine zero three fifty eight. Getting America back on track, Bill Martinez Live. Hey, good morning, Glad you can join us. Bill Martinez. Here is about six minutes after the top of the hour, and John O'Connor joins us. Now, John, of course, you know he's he's been a legal authority and you know you name it, he's been there. The legal analyst author of Postgate, how the Washington Post betrayed deep throat, covered up Watergate, and began today's partisan advocacy journalism that we continue to live with frustratingly. John, welcome back.

57:00 Good to have you with us, So good to be with you again. Bill. Well, here it is this deal with Iran. You and I share some similar sentiments on this deal. You know, I think Donald Trump he almost you know, he came back in the in the dark of night, and there was no welcoming parade for him. You know, this memo of understanding. I refer to it as the Memo of Misunderstanding. And because many people here in America, including our elected officials, are scratching their heads and going what happened? Well, that's right. We wanted four big things out of this, which everybody knows. We wanted, you know, no bomb. We wanted to stop terrorism, h of course, stop the the open the straits of hormones and so forth and so on. All four things that we wanted we do not have.

57:55 Now. The straits are temporarily open, but there's a provision that they can charge tolls in the future, and they get together, they can charge tolls. So we got nothing out of this other than maybe the price of gas will go down for a while, a big deal, and it's less than it was in even now than the binary. On the other hand, what did Iran get. Iran's getting billions at least in unfrozen assets that otherwise would have gone to this compensation fund for people victimized by Iran's terrorism. I've been involved in those cases. The fund is still yet not funded from frozen Iranian assets, so that's one aspect of this. They get money, they can charge tolls, we get rid of our strangling blockade, we quit bombing.

58:51 There's a thought that they will still negotiate some restraint on Israel. Now the IRGC remained intact. We are stopping a nuclear bomb, but they can have missiles. Yeah. So I'm not sure if we got anything from this, because had we continued the bombing, we would have got everything we got anyway without having to give up anything. So this is terrible because it unleashes with all this money they're going to get. Oh yeah, then, and we've relieved them of sanctions so they can make billions on their oil. So all of this gives money to the IRGC, and we're crazy if we don't think that they're going to be dancing in the streets and now we've funded terrorism.

59:38 Right Yeah, And for them to say that this is tied to behavior, there's no indication in any negotiation that the IRGC and Iran's behavior has been altered by any you know, stick and carrot. I mean, just go back and consider what Obama gave them. Now did their behavior change? No, If anything, they got more dangerous. Right. And they like this deal because it binds us, and of course they don't. Have to be bound by it. They can be just like Trump tore up the jc POA deal, they can tear this up if they want. They can do anything they want, and especially once they get a milk toast to democratic regime in there, we're all in bad shape. But right now, how do you, by the way, even if they promise they're not going to support terrorism, which is not clear yet, but even if they do that, how do we monitor whether money is going to Hesbala or Hamas and so forth?

1:00:37 And so we can't. We can't. And now meanwhile, supposedly Israel's hands are going to be tied in Southern eleven and so forth. The whole thing is worse than no deal at all. And the fact and the fact that you're even giving any kind of reliance to the United Nations, John, are you kidding me? This whole thing is silly. And Trump wants to be a deal maker and so forth, Well, he's shown himself to be just the opposite. He's not a peacemaker and he's not a deal maker. And I think this thing, he credibly can be deemed the leader of the entire conservative movement. Not everybody is a complete trumper, but he ties the conservative movement together.

1:01:24 This shreds it apart, right. I think generally, generally the majority of conservatives do not agree with this. So what exactly is he doing? Who is he catering to? And meanwhile, he is helping the Democrats who will look at this as a quote war of choice, which is an absurd appellation for this, but nonetheless it's an attractive one and will look that way. It will look like he bombed the hell out of a country to no effect and created animosity and enabled terrorism and remove. Sanctions that had been there for the bombing. There is no way to look at this as a good deal, and the only way out of this is for him somehow, in the still of his own conscience, to say I made a mistake. I'll seize on anything that they do wrong, and I'll start bombing again. That won't happen because he's got too much pride in the deal tied up. So to me, this is the central turning point in his presidency. Had he carried through with this as he should have, he would have gone down as one of the greatest presidents of the United States history. Now, regardless of any foibles or anything you can point out, you know, naming the Kennedy Center after him and all that stuff that's going to look like petty stuff. If he did this and now without doing it, he will

1:02:54 go down as one of the most feckless and foolish presidents we've ever had. I hate to say it, but this is a complete turnabout in his presidency. And I don't say that lightly. I just can't see. I would love to see it some other way. I cannot bring myself to do it. It doesn't make any sense no matter what scenario you play out. This is a tragedy. Yeah, you can look back twenty twenty hindsight, as they say, you know, when the pauses started happening. I'm going, what is going on here? Because the midterms are coming at us at mock five speeds, all these things this thing. Had he kept his foot on the pedal, this thing would have been over. I believe by now it had been over, and you know, the talking points for the Democrats and the mainstream media would have gone by the wayside.

1:03:45 They'd be looking for something else, you know, trying to justify their radical options that they're presenting for the midterms. But instead, now this is going to give them all kinds of opportunity to you know, put put the wind in the faces of then servative movement. Right up to now, the Democrats, especially the progressive wing, look like feckless woosies. If I may say, now, the feckless whissies are Trump and his team, and that we look like feckless whoosies, and we have the fate. This is not this is the fate of the entire world. It's not just the United States exactly. And the long term piece which beckoned, and we could isolate China as being our sole rival Russia's week, we would have now gotten rid of Iran, and all we would worry about is China, and we can credibly threaten force against them as they have designs on Taiwan, which Taiwan, by the way, has the key to all the ai fortunes that are going to be made in the United States and lifts our entire economy. And if they take over Taiwan, we're doomed there because people don't realize that. You can talk about chips all you want, Yes, the chips are made in Taiwan, but the related industries there are so unique, the packaging and design and how you stack these things

1:05:15 together exactly. There's an infrastructure there that is not replicated anywhere in the world. And once China gets Ai kiss it goodbye. Teach your kids Mandarin or your grandkids Mandarin, and we're in for a long haul here. So this whole thing, while we're getting terrorists in the Middle East and probably infiltrated in the United States, thank you, President Biden, we now have China, which is exerting control as we speak right now, by the way, trying to stop us from building data centers by their propaganda, and so all of this is of a piece, unfortunately, and it destroys everything.

1:05:57 I just I can't downplay this enough exactly. Let's go to quick break. We'll pick it up on the other side. More from John O'Connor after this. Millions of people of all ages have speech, language or hearing difficulties. A new national poll finds that communication breakdowns frequently occur between caregivers and the people in their care, causing an array of potentially serious problems. US caregivers of adults with communication difficulties were polled. The American Speech Language Hearing Association ASHA commissioned the poll and Yugov conducted it. The poll revealed caregivers are concerned that communication breakdowns could hinder addressing medical problems and cause other safety issues that put at risk the health of the person in need of care. Ash A President Linda Rosa Lugo.

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1:10:28 Visit us now at Magavitamin dot com and learn how you can get a free bottle with your order. Death Magavitamin dot com Nutrition for Patriots. Welcome back, Bill Martinez here with John O'Connor, the legal analyst and author of Postgate. You know, you were mentioning Taiwan, and there was you know, in this last conversation with President g there seemed to be an indication that Donald Trump was giving some space when he was asked to directly about protecting Taiwan. Before it was always irrefutable the United States would protect Taiwan, and somehow there seems to be some waffling at least that seemed to be my perception.

1:11:14 What did you read out of that? Now, that's the problem with Trump is he's always. Trying to do a deal, and he has a lot of loose talk, and he's just doing that to try to entice the other side to do whatever he wants done for real estate project. And it's not a bad strategy to get somebody involved and then start bluffing and negotiating. That doesn't work in something like this Chinese deal, because if you give them any indication that you're going to go soft on this thing, then they have license to go attack it, and I think he may have given them that there's a lot of ramp up of activity over there and a lot of military exercise eyes. And I'll tell you this for sure, should there be a change in parties running this country, I don't think there's any doubt about it that we're going to see something happening on Taiwan.

1:12:19 But it may which is. Not going to be good. There's no doubt about it. The thing is, I just wonder if part of the deal is is that maybe a backdoor deal with Trump, because Trump was bragging that China in his statements here at the G seven, that China did not support Iran blatantly and that they he may have asked President g to step away, and was there some you know, it just leads you to consider, was there some sort of agreement that, Okay, if you help us out here with Iran, we'll help you with Taiwan. And that's unnecessary. I mean, look, China's not stupid. There's one thing you can say about them. As we're bombing the blizzards out of Iran, of Iran, China, China is going to give lip service to Ran, but they're not going to do anything I mean, it's just not in their wheelhouse. And so yeah, they probably give him a little this and that, and again in Russia's incapable of any meaningful help there. It's it's economists going to tatters.

1:13:22 And Ukraine's got him on the run. So he's again he's getting he's giving something for nothing, as he's doing to the Iranian regime right now. And it's just the foibles of an egotistical deal maker. I hate to say this, but this shows every foible he has. And uh, it's it's unfortunately has a large proportion. Well, it's interesting that you bring that up, because that was my thought as well, John, is that perhaps his ego got in the way. Yeah, and that's the problem. That's the problem, which way his ego runs, and he he focused on the triviality. He just didn't like the idea of high gas prices. There's a lot in the MAGA world to say, oh no, we don't like these gas prices. Well sure, okay, so what I know it's bad, but let's get the job done. You have high gas prices for sixty more days, Big deal, right, big deal?

1:14:21 And okay, the average Joe lost two or three hundred dollars, There's no doubt about it. I'm at the pump now and it cost me one hundred bucks to fill up my car. Okay, I don't like that, but you know, so what Okay it would normally be eighty Okay, so yeah, come on. So I don't think that he's really thought this through, and it just shows every weakness he has. He's got some strength and he's got some weaknesses, and unfortunately this really involves all his weaknesses. Well, and this is what happens with every leader, is you come to that point where you come to the end of yourself and your weakness is exposed. But that's when you really need to have good counselors and people around you who can make up that difference when your weakness is exposed. And I'm not sure where that is right now. I think Marco Rubio and JD have filled a certain void. But Donald Trump is such a force that he takes up so much oxygen out of the room that he may quiet those voices of reason and those counselors that he needs to be listening to. That's just my observation, John, I don't know what do you think.

1:15:31 Well, here's the thing JD. I love JD, but he's he hears the Maga world and he's not a really big internationalist and all that stuff and no foreign wars. There's a you know, a lot of Maga people that say, Okay, no foreign wars, et cetera. Et cetera. We get all that, and I think he's probably a little attuned to that. It's one thing, though, to have people griping, and it's another thing to have those gripes be monumental. So I think think he was probably a little bit that way. And now, when your secretary of State, unfortunately your job is diplomacy, so Marco wants to be involved in diplomacy, which involves negotiating agreements. I suspect that Marco was probably a little more hard headed. The reports are that people like General Jack Keane were giving advice to the president, so he got the right advice from somebody he should trust. There are a couple other people of the same ilk that were giving them the advice that you and I think should have been followed.

1:16:38 Right. But that's the real problem with Trump is when it really gets down to it, he doesn't follow advice, and his ego gets in the way and here that his ego was fixed in the wrong place. There weren't enough people saying, mister President, your ego has to be on the side of bringing a rand to its knees and getting a surrender. In fact, they're never going to unconditionally surrender. Surrender in fact, if you bomb them enough and they have no IRGC capability and so forth, if we've gotten rid of the their interference with the Strait. We even had one lane, by all reports, we had one of the lanes I don't know if it's southern or northern ones was sort of.

1:17:25 I think a southern southern lane there. Yeah, one was open and one was effectively closed. Okay, big deal, we're escorting people in and out. That would have changed with more bombing. They wouldn't be able to put those resources there. Uh. And and and it's like so what and and so what big deal? Uh And we could do a lot more things to them if we wanted to, And now here we are uh so much for so little. I just uh, I'm just sick about it. And and and there's no you know, there's no sugar coding we can do to this. I think we end up back at war. What do you think. I hope so, I hope.

1:18:06 So. Now that's going to hurt the midterms, so big deal. I'd rather do it right, let's do it. And I hope we're back at war. I just hope we are, because this was very promising for the long term future world peace, and we have to have the bigger view of this. I mean, it's very much Neville Chamberlain like, think you're buying peace in the short time. Now when Trump says this silly thing like I don't want to be another Hoover and create a depression, well it doesn't know what he's talking about. This is the problem. Whereas lack of erudition comes to the four which normally does it normally it is a common sense guy, and it doesn't matter. But anybody with any learning would say that this has nothing to do with Hoover. Number one, Hoover didn't cause the depression. It was tight money. He did not cure it, but he did not cause it.

1:18:59 Number one, and number two, we have no problem with facing a depression. That's one of the things we don't have. We have inflation, not depression. And this doesn't have aything to do with it. The stock market's doing fine. It does hurt the common man, there's no doubt about it. We can do some a few things about that. But listen, we gotta we got to bite it for a couple months and then everything will be great. And we can if we need to. In the meantime, we can not charge federal gas taxes and the like. We can promise some sort of tax rebates for this for gas, for high gas prices or something like that, for people who can show that they blah blah blah blah that they drove too much.

1:19:42 We can do all kinds of things to help the. Public, to help the poor guy, you know, for those under a certain income level. We can do something and and things will be okay. But but boy, but we can't have that tail wag the dog. Yeah, without a doubt. And if you're going to inphrase some of the assets from Iran, why can't you use some of that asset money to heal the people here in America that have paid the price. That's good point. That's good point. We have had no problem taking Iranian assets and paying into this fund. I've been involved legally in the fund. The claims have not been fully liquidated they've maybe paid a third of the amounts that have been adjudicated, so there's plenty. So if we can do that for that fund, as you say, we can also take that same money and offer rebates with it and so forth do something to get down the price of gas or to pay for the high price. But any case, it's just none of this makes sense. After all, they're bombing us. They've done all sorts of things that allow us and justify the taking of these assets. I mean, these are the guys that forty seven years ago, you know, grabbed our hostages, so exactly, and then they bomb Kobar Towers. As we have every right under international law to be compensated for that, and we can unfreeze these assets and take them for ourselves.

1:21:06 So I just there are so many things here that Trump has not done, and this to me, as I've said before, it completely tarnishes his presidency. Well, yes, as they say, we'll have to wait and see and pray that wisdom somehow can be recaptured. We'll see. John O'Connor, the legal analyst and author of Postgate. John has always appreciate the insight and the analysis. Take care be well, my friend. Which This could have been a lighter conversation. Yes, exactly, take care. Happy Father's Day. How about a week ended on that note? Okay, all right, okay, see it buddy. If you're sixty five or older and Medicare is your main source of insurance, pay close attention right now and listen for details on how you may save thousands of dollars on your healthcare costs. Did you know that Medicare can pay for things like dental visits, home deliver of drugs, even a gym membership. Call us right now and learn how to unlock all your Medicare benefits. Medicare and supplemental plans that we provide can even offer you drug coverage with zero copeys and pay for transportation to your doctors.

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1:25:10 That's Magavitamin dot com Nutrition for Patriots. Hey, we're back with your Bill Martinez here along with America's money answers man, the one and only Jordan Goodman. Jordan, how we. Doing great to be with you, Bill, And I'm glad you made a huge amount of money on SpaceX. Yeah, really exactly, I'm telling you. Although it's interesting because some advisors were saying, you know, hold off, don't. I don't know. You get those in the camp that say, do not, under any circumstances whatsoever, get involved with an IPO. Right, Well, that did not happen in this case because it's huge demand for it. Just to give you a sense, the amount of money they're raising is about eighty billion dollars, which is by far the biggest IPO ever. The previous one was Saudi A Ramco at twenty six billion. The valuation of SpaceX is ninety times revenues. The previous biggest IPO was ten times revenues Ali Baba. So it's christ beyond perfection, Okay. I mean they've done a fantastic job and they're launching all these and it's way beyond just rocket launches. I mean they're talking about putting a million data centers into space, a million.

1:26:29 Of course they're up there. They won't have problems with heat, and they won't have energy problems, and all the problems we have data sets on Earth will be solved by that. So that's a huge business in itself. They're also connected to Starlink. They lift a lot of things for commercial reason and the government's only about five percent of what they do. Right exactly, we're going to go to the moon. I mean, it's a very exciting company. And Elon Musk is going to fold into this new public SpaceX XAI, which is his artificial intelligence company, which is rock and I think Tesla. I think he's going to roll Tesla into it as well to create one which itself is a trillion dollar company.

1:27:12 I was going to say, is he officially going to become the first trillionaire? Yes, yes, that's correct. The value of the stock, the value of the stock at eighty billion is about one point seven trillion, so it's yes, he will become the first trillionaire. And this is by far the first trillion dollar IPO ever. So yes, it's enthusiastic and a lot of people are getting into all the big names. Everybody wants it, and it's you know, could take off like a rocket. Did you sell the farm? I'm selling the farm to put it all SpaceX. That's right, including the cows and the chickens. Yes, I'm going to do much better with rocket fuel, Yes.

1:27:55 I think so. Yeah, chicken poop won't go that far anymore. Now we're beyond that, right, Okay. It's very exciting though, it really is. It is. I mean, I love this. I mean especially in light of you know, all the nervous nelly's out there. But that's that's what happens. You know, when you go back to the industrial age as it was booming and starting coming, everybody's worried, you know, what would they do? You know, we're going to end up But you know, all there's always a place for humanity in there, as long as we can keep government out of there and trying to turn everybody into a robot right, Well, one. Of the things that Elon Musk is also big into his robots. Of course, No, but robots have their place too. But I'm but I'm talking about you know, when government comes in, they want to take humanity and you know, automate humanity.

1:28:41 Yeah. Now this is going to be amazing and it does all kinds of really positive things being able to do things in space in many cases, the cheaper, faster they think of the communications, think of the phone you hold with yourself and the GPS. I mean we just got of take that for granted. But withour slights that would never happen, just revolutionized the way we can do things. So it's very positive. You can get a little bit too hypey. I mean, these things can get so enthusiastic that it can get a little bit too hypey. But I think in the long run this is gonna be a good one. Yeah. Maybe you can clean up the space mass up there, all that space garbage too, right. We need space chrunk. Maybe we could have him like a space garbage truck to kind of get all that junk out of.

1:29:22 There, and that'll be a whole nother ipo. Jordan, you know that we could jump on. You know, is collecting all the space junk that's up there, you know, broken pieces of satellites and you know Chinese parts that are flying around with no connection. Well, of course he's going to put a lot more space. I mean a million data centers is a lot, you know. Yeah, but I mean at least he'll be doing something. It's supposed to just floating out there and crashing into things and you know, maybe knocking down some asteroids or something. I don't know. So it's a really it's a good thing. This is happening, and it's amazing. Here's one person, Elon Musk, who has incredibly big ideas. He wants to go to Mars. I mean, he's doing all these things and he's executed.

1:30:05 I mean when he started, nobody thought he could create electric cars to take over the auto industry. Or when he did Starlink, nobody thought he could do a communications system that is revolutionized. One thing after another that he does. The artificial intelligence he's doing with XII is staggering. He's building a center, a data center in Tennessee. It's literally about the size of Manhattan, about twenty thousand acres or something like that. Don't don't don't tell mom Donnie that, because then you'll want to conquer that, conquer that and do some crazy stuff, take over the property rights there, and you know Lord m mercy. Yeah. Anyway, so so much other things going on.

1:30:48 You know, we wore not war, ceasefire, non cease fire. This is this is crazy making. Although it's interesting, Jordan, because before with this kind of interruption, you know, the stock market would absolutely be getsop running. It's kind of hanging on to itself a bit, you know, amazing. Yeah, while you have a hot Middle East war going on and I'm calling it a war right now, there is no ceasefire. This is a ceasefire with lots of fire and not. Too much cease right exactly. And Wall Street has been celebrating. I mean, AI is clearly what's dominating the conversation, all the chips and the electricity and the building and that I saw a recent number of the growth of the United States economy right now is related to AI and data centers.

1:31:36 Wow. So that's a lot. And we're not even on all cylinders, Jordan. Right well, when space starts list lifting, all these million data centers are going to build all those things. That's going to be a lot. So it's causing a huge construction boom around the country, which is controversial. A lot of places don't want data centers. There's a big protest recently in Utah where Kevin O'Leary is building a data center twice the size of Manhattan, twice the size of Elon Mussels. It's about forty. Thousand acres in Utah and the locals went crazy, but they people voted for it anyway, and around the country people do not want the constant humming. It raises people's electricity costs, it uses long water.

1:32:21 But well, they'll break them out. They will freak them out. Jordan is when their teeth start glowing at night. It could be that, I mean, but it's unstoppable at this point. It really is, the amount of data centers, and it's not only here, it's around the world. Is exactly the world as well. Yeah, the races are no doubt. Yeah, what about inflation? Where are we? So the latest number consumer prices action is up four point two percent at an annual rate. The previous month had been three point eight. It's definitely going up, and it's not only oil directly, but it's the indirect impact of hard Yes. So for example, airfares, I mean airline jet fuel has doubled the price since the beginning of the war in February, so they've got to pass it on at least to some extent in higher airfares. The other where it's affecting is a Feder reserve. The FED would like to cut the restraints to stimulate the economy, but with inflation going up like this, they can't. There's no way they can lower interest rates in this environment.

1:33:21 So that's affecting that. It affects the price of fertilizer, the cost of food, the transportation to get things to market is going up as well, so it affects a lot of different things. So, I mean, what President Trump is saying is once the war is over, once we win open, everything will drop back. Well that's nice. I hope that happens. Hasn't happened yet. Right now, the direction is going up. Yeah. I think the growing sentiment is let's get it on, get it on, get it over with. I mean, you know, God bless him his patience. He's done everything he can diplomatically, so he needs to measure these I've been saying, you know, with me being a former marine, Eileen on Thomas Jefferson and what happened, you know with the Barbary pirates. It's very simple, you know. Jefferson said, hey, let me find out about these guys. Let me read the Quran. He saw ideologically where they were coming from, and said, hey, send in the Marines, get it over with. And Donald Trump needs to channel's Thomas Jefferson.

1:34:24 Yes, it's not quite as easy. The Barbary Pirates did not have hypersonic ballistic missiles that I'm aware of, Yes, right. I mean Irana has been damaged, no question about it. And their economy is a complete shambles. They have super hyperinflation, the soldiers aren't being paid. I mean, the place is a complete mess economically. But that doesn't mean that they don't have a lot of weapons underground. We've got ten miss underground missile cities with thousands of ballistic missiles drones that they keep making. They can do a lot of damage, and they have been doing damage. They've been attacking refineries in Israel and American military bases all over the place. And the big one is if they start hitting golf oil facilities, refineries, fuel processing.

1:35:08 Well, they've veimed in the United States have been able to block some of those drone attacks. So yes, I mean they're they're you know, they're fighting for their very lives, and that's the nature of a death cult's that's what we're dealing with here. And so I'm with you, Jordan. I want to see oil prices dropping like a rock. I think the President is correct on it. But hey, the sooner the better, I mean, we're getting too close to the midterms in my humble opinion. Well, people are not happy. The consumer conference number is the lowest they've ever measured because of their prices, as you said, not only gas, but food and all kinds of other things as well, and people's incomes not keeping up with these higher prices. So it's a real strain on a lot of people.

1:35:49 And they vote their pocketbooks. They always say that their pocketbooks are not happy right now, except for the stock market. If you have all your money in AI stocks, then you're happy. Yeah, then you're okay, yeah exactly. Well we got to leave it there, Jordan work and they go for more information. They can always email me Jordan at Money Answers dot com I always glad to help them. Millions of people of all ages have speech, language or hearing difficulties. A new national poll finds that communication breakdowns frequently occur between caregivers and the people in their care, causing an array of potentially serious problems. US caregivers of adults with communication difficulties were polled. The American Speech Language Hearing Association ASHA commissioned the poll and Yugov conducted it.

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1:40:15 He's the vice. President of Parenting and Youth. Let me say this, Danny, Happy Father's Day to you. Hey, thank you you too, Bill. Good to be on your show. Man. It's good heat, great, great to see again. It's been a minute. Man, I'm telling you so you look great. Thank you. Hey. Let's talk about you know, it's Father's Day and what it means you know in twenty twenty six. Well, I mean being a dad. It's interesting. It's a fascinating thing. Bill, So as we think about it, I really think about the dad effect that dad can have an amazing effect on a child's development. And it begins with the spiritual development, then mental, emotional, relational, and then what they're finding is a physical impact having a ad that's engaged in the home. And it takes intentionality, it takes prioritizing, it takes a balance. You need to be guiding your kids, but also show warms. They can get complicated, you can. I mean, Dad's you got this.

1:41:12 That's right, exactly. Well, it's how God designed us, how our first father, right, the one who we look to, you know, for guidance and understanding about this awesome position. And you know a lot of people are quick to say, well, you know, father and sons, but it's just as important for daughters, isn't it. Oh, it is, Bill, It's incredible. The impact that a recent research studies showed was that if a dad is close to his daughter around sixteen years of age seventeen, the benefit of in her mental health into adulthood is tremendous. So they measure the ladies at thirty three, and their mental health was better compared to the ones that didn't have a dad a close relationship with their dad at sixteen.

1:41:59 Right, And you know, you look at research like that, but you also hear the testimonies of young girls and grown women that will relate to their father. And sometimes I know, because the culture tries it tells us, you know, it tries to tell us something different, which is really kind of a lie. You know, I keep talking to many men. Certainly in my generation, we were raised, you know, terms of cultural impact by you know, television and other influences in that where the father was a primary figure in the household. You know, you know TV series like Father Knows Best and you know things like that, And of course, you know, since the seventies, you know, with the feminist movement, there's been an all out attack on fatherhood.

1:42:49 Yes, yes, there has been. And I got to tell you firsthand, I have a very close relation with my daughter. She's not twenty one, and I've had, I've gotten to have a unique packed in her life. And we've talked about this very thing, the way that media portrays the role of dads, and she laments that she goes no man, dads are so important. I love being with you, dad, and and it has taken from the beginning, it has taken intentionality of just asking questions, being present not being perfect, being present, because what our daughters want from us as dads is for us to model what it means to how we're supposed to try, how they're supposed to be treated, but also what it means to face adversity, to face challenges, to be responsible, but also to show affection to them and how they can receive that affection. There's so many opportunities for us as dads as we're looking at how we lead our homes. Media has portrayed it wrong. It doesn't mean we have to fit into that. It also doesn't mean we have to become angry. What we do is we show no what we we are important in our home. And I know that a lot of dads are out there are discouraged. Their single dads feel like they're disconnected from their homes today, do your best to find a way to reconcile that and to step towards your family.

1:44:08 I'll tell you one of the best bits of advice that I got early on, and this was a friend of church and he said, uh, date your daughter. You and I talked about this years ago how important that was, and my daughter was three years old at the time, and so it was. It was interesting, Uh, because you know, I have one girl and five boys, and I'm dating my daughter and guess what the boys go, Hey, what do we chop liver? Well? Yeah, what about us? Man? Yeah exactly. So I had to rotate them in you know so, But I'll tell you that was one of the best bits of advice and counsel I'd ever received. Anny. Yes, And our sons desire that guidance and that one on one time as well, and the affection. Believe it or not, most sons want that hug, that the affection, the affirmation, Hey son, proud of you, You're doing a good job. And also in our home, we did these journals where we wrote notes to each other. We wouldn't write in our own journal, but to each others and my daughter and ies. We were doing that for a while and my son a teenage, around sixteen or so, he said, Dad, I'm good. I don't think I need that journal thing anymore. Around nineteen he said, Dad, could we do that journal thing again? I really I would love to have some more of those. And our sons do want do desire those life giving words from us as dads. Be sure you're stopping and looking them in the eye and letting them know you love them. That's a huge gift to your sons as well.

1:45:37 Well, you know this is all part of the dat effect. And I got to tell you, Danny, I don't know how today's father can father their children without a connection to Christ. Because if you're not connected to the vine, you've got to be connected to the vine, because you need the nourishment of the vine to pass on to your heritage. Right, Oh, you do you do? And I love first Corinthian six exteen thirteen. This is one of my favorites. It says, be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong, Let all that you do be done in love. And God is the author of love. And as a dad, if you don't understand that love from a heavenly father, if you don't understand true north, if you don't have that worldview, it does get confusing.

1:46:22 And then you can get so easily distracted as a dad, chasing money, chasing status, chasing a variety of things. And when you have the right priorities in place, your family goes right up there. And there are those investments pay off more than any other investments you have, And there are dads that have regrets. I don't want dads parking in the regret parking spot. You've got to keep moving from there and today do something different. I talk about five mindsets, Bill, and the first one is you're a steward, steward of a home, steward of a place, something you've been given. Your servant in your home, your servant where you go. And then as a dad, have a curious mindset with your family. With your kids, ask them questions, get to know who they are individually. They will value those questions. Then number four, be loving in what you do, show it and that's your affection and through what you do around the home. And then the fifth one is a one win a day mindset. Find one thing you can do to make the day better for each person in your home. It's going to change you as a man.

1:47:30 Yeah. How cool is that one win a day? That's you know, we have all kinds of challenges these days, right you know that happened in the culture that I think is a good call out and challenge, you know for the fathers who are listening here is that go out and find your one win a day for each person in your household. Your wife, your children, and see what kind of difference that makes, right. Oh yeah, yeah, I mean you'll see momentum start to change. And then that's the dad effect. You will notice a day difference in your home, in your kids. And most importantly, what research shows is that if you bring that spiritual side of who you are and you pursue God intentionally model that with your kids, it makes a difference in all the main developmental markers for your kids. And man, that's a powerful effect you have.

1:48:19 As a dad. You know. The tough thing for dads is you know, as you were saying earlier, you know, one of the things is that we are to provide for our families. And sometimes dads will buy into the lie the thing just because they're providing, that's enough, or you know, what are they complaining about? You know, I'm working ten hours a day, fourteen hours a day. You know, we get that. But you know what you just talked about, this is a balance. You've got to register these key markers in your life to say, am I living a balanced life to where all these things are being because they're not only provision, but am I stewarding? Am I loving? Am I finding that one that one and win a day that I can share and affirm you know, my child or my wife with.

1:49:04 Right yes and dads, you can be creative with this. I get it. I mean I was just speaking to a room full of four or five hundred dads just recently, and the most frequent question was how do I balance out providing for my family, working hard and the tiredness I feel from that, and then having time with each of my kids, and then having time with my wife, and then leading spiritually, and then all the maintenance of the house. I get it. It is busy, be creative. If you're going to the store, take one of the kids with you. Talk side by side. If you're gonna if you have a moment, maybe take a walk around the block with one of the kids. It's more of a talker and you can listen in on what's going on there. And then if a child is a little quieter and they read books and they're just a little more disconnected, go over there and say, hey, can I read with you? Can I sit with you and read?

1:49:51 Find ways creative ways to be side by side with your kids. It doesn't have to be like a breakfast or the big outing in the day to day. If you show that curiosity and get to know your kids and be intentional about being involved in what they're doing and what they're thinking about the emotions they're feeling, you will you will notice a difference in how they approach you. And uh, it'll it'll turn more and more natural as far as your time together. Well, you know, and it's so important here, Danny, just what you're laying out here, and that is that you know the challenge that it is for dads to stay spiritually grounded and you know, as you say, intentional each day. Yeah, it's not about quantity of time, but quality and can you can you surrender? Can you invest five minutes of quality time that could make a huge difference in that child's life right right?

1:50:45 And in your playfulness, Dad's that's something that sometimes we forget to bring to our home. Bring that maybe have a nerf gun fight all of a sudden in your house. So hey, guys, everybody, we're gonna turn the lights off, we're gonna have hide and seek here in the home, or you know, whatever that playful side of you is, that's another thing you can bring and maybe that's something you need for your stress reduction, but know that one win could be just being patient with your kids, being able to press a pause button, go drink a full cup of water and allow for that to be kind of the patience that washes over you to show that there's something different and you want to show love to your kids. That's a gift in itself to show patients towards the imperfections of the behaviors your kids bring day to day as they're trying to learn how to how to manage their life and their life with emotions and as a dad, your your patience shows love and creates a different experience in the in the just the home itself, the the the environment of the hunt.

1:51:47 Talking about doctor Danny ware to the vice president of Parenting and Youth that focused on the family, who has written several books, including Seven Traits of Effective Parenting, Uh Danny. As we wrap things up, what in your experience is is what our children need most from their fathers, no matter what age. Yeah, I'd say your attentiveness, the warmth and sensitivity of wanting to know more who this child is is huge. And then the second part to that, there's a second part to that, it's your wise leadership, the expectations, the boundaries. But the foundation to that is not only the provision, but the relationship. And then that's where you can provide boundaries, mission guidance, help them discover their identity. It's the balance of those two. And Bill, we've talked about the seven traits of effective parenting before and that's the seven traits.

1:52:42 So if you want to take a next step, come to focus on thefamily dot com slash parenting slash dad. That's for you. That's a page for you, and you can find the assessment there, a report guard that you can have with your kids, all kinds of resources for you, specifically as a dad as you try to do the best you can with what you've got. Doctor Danny Wareton, thank you as always appreciate you. God bless your thanks. Bill, good to see again. Man. Do you have Medicare and do you use a SEATPAP machine? This is a National Healthcare alert regarding your SEAPAP supplies. Using a clean seapap mask and clean supplies is important to staying healthy. The best way to make sure your SEATPAP equipment is clean is to get new supplies.

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