June 16, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 06 16 26

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Are you ready?

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Yeah, Okay, let's do an ill Martina's Live, a program

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about current events.

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Our culture, our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez, Well.

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Good morning America. Good to have you with us. Six

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minutes after the top of the hour, and we've got

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our favorite legal end list, the one and only Horace Cooper,

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the former constitutional law professor, recognized legal commentator and author. Horace,

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Good morning to you. How are you.

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It is great to be on the program. I feel

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blessed today.

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Well, I'll tell you it's always a blessing to have

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you around, Sir. I appreciate you and lots to talk about.

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With the latest Scotis decisions, I want to talk about

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an old Scotis decision which happened and it was I

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got to tell you, it's almost like I'm waiting for

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the news to catch up with everyone. It's almost reminding

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me of the emancimation Emancipation Proclamation. You know, when Abraham

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Lincoln set out the eaticch and freed the slaves. It

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took a while aisle for it to go across the country.

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And I feel this way somewhat, And I don't know

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if you'd agree or not. Horace. But that is when

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the Court decided that institutional racism was done with, that

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it had run its course. And to me, I just

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felt like America should have just come out in the

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streets yelling and screaming, jumping up and down and going,

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you know, good God, Almighty free at last.

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You know.

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It is remarkable to me, and I guess in a

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way this is like Abraham Lincoln, the President of the

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United States Proclamation on the Ending of Slavery. The Supreme Court,

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after almost one hundred and twenty five years, looked at

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the actual language of the Fourteenth Amendment and said what

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everybody thought it meant when they actually adopted it and

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then ratified it is, in fact what it means. The

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federal government may not use race as a proxy for

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deciding who gets an advantage or who is disadvantage, whether

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that's gerrymandering, whether that's so called race based affirmative action,

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even government programs that like the Biden administration created that

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just singled out certain races for eligibility. The Supreme Court

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has flatly made it clear. And to me, it's such

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a treasure to see that a black member of the

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Supreme Court is standing firm in recognizing what our founders

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intended it.

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To me, it's it's so liberating. But like I said,

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I'm frustrated inasmuch as that I want the rest of

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the country to get caught up and really understand what

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that represents. Because you know, for most of my life, Horse,

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I've been told that I'm prejudiced, and I go, I don't.

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I don't get it. I don't see it. You know,

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I think I may have shared with you that, you know,

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I grew up in a multi racial community and look

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at you know, we played ball with all races and

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creeds and colors and everything like that. And in the

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Little League, we didn't care what color your skin was.

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Was gosh, can you catch the darn ball? Can you

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get a darning hit once in a while? You know

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that that's that's all. That's all we cared about. We

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didn't care about colored skin. And then I go to

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college and all of a sudden, you know, these same

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kids I grew up with, you know, they're now involved

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with the Black Panthers, and they're shouting things at me

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that I'm going, well, what happened? Did I miss a

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memo here or something?

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You know, it was a youth pastor that sat me

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down and said, there was a time during the period

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after Jesus's death where there was a dispute that arose.

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Were the people who called themselves practicing Jews considered better

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than the people who were not Jewish at all, Many

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of them were Greek, but who had adopted the faith.

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And my youth pastor said, when God said that he

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sent his only begotten son to save the world, he

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meant the Greek and the jew He won the male

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and the female, and that that's how God's love worked.

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And I heard that as an eighth grader, and it

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just dawned on me. Wait a second. If God doesn't

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see us differently because quote, we have these immutable characteristics,

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why are we doing it? And I have embarked on

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a lifetime of understanding. I'm not perfect. I can't get

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up on the cross. But if God is open to

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the idea that we should love every person regardless of

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their immutable characteristics, that's the minimum that I should be

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able to join in and do.

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Wow, how powerful in eighth grade to have that kind

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of revelation and for it to take root in your heart.

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That says a lot horse Cooper about first of all,

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the youth pastor that talked to you and shared truth

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with you like that, and for you, you know, to

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have the character that could embrace that and understand that

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is godly wisdom, because you know that is a gift

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from God. That is so liberating. Because at the end

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of the day, as our good friend doctor ALBERTA. King

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would repeatedly say to me, Bill, we're one blood, and.

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Then right and true, that's not fue in the case.

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And I have to say I today fill a special

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degree of support for missionaries precisely because they bring a

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truth that pills off the cover from the minds and

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eyes of people and let them see the world as

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it should be. All that we are doing at Project

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twenty one is just saying, look, you know this is true.

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You know there actually is no inherent difference between someone

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who's right handed and someone who's left handed, someone who

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has big feed, someone who is tall, someone who is short,

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someone who has small feet. And yet the left has

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weaponized these kinds of distinctions. And you know, just as

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an example, when they were doing their election gerrymandering activities,

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they specifically were saying special treatment for people solely on

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the basis of race. That's not what we fought for.

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That's not what we sacrifice for. Our constitution embodies these

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Christian principles, and whenever you're jumping away from those Christian principles,

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you need to review and look and see where you are.

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And the bottom line of all this horse is that

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they've been doing. Like you said, this has gone on

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for over one hundred years. This is what we've been told,

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how we're supposed to believe. And then you try and

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square it up with what God says, and it's almost

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like I can hear God, you know, shouting to us,

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like he did speak ever so gently and pointedly to

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Adam and Eve who told you that? Right?

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Yeah, absolutely. You know. Here's my irony. If someone came

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to me and I was super, super thirsty, I almost

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felt like I was going to pass out, and they said, oh,

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just go right over here to the right ten feet

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there's a faucet. I would be grateful, But the left says,

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how dare you intervene in that way? But so judgmental.

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Maybe they don't want to go right. It is unbelievable

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to see the level of hostility that the left has

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to the very types of knowledge that actually freese human

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beings and brings them happiness.

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It is that ongoing battle of good and evil and

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those that you know, As the Bible says, it's not

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against flesh and flesh and bone. It's the spirit of

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this world. These spirits that operate in darkness and are hidden,

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those are the ones that we're warring against, not those

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that we see in front of us that are flesh

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and blood. We've got to go to quick break. Stay

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Welcome back dol Martinez here with the former constitutional law professor,

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recognized legal commentator, a co chair Project twenty one National

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Advisory Board forres I used to put a bow around

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what we were talking about previously, you know again, just

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like it took, you know, it took some decades for

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people to realize that the chains have been cut off

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that were free, and it may take some healing and

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some awareness to realize that yes, it's not about the

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color of our skin. It is as doctor King said,

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the content of our character after all. Right, Yeah, so Bill.

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I'm gonna compliment you, but I mean it in a

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sincere way. You work hard to make your program something

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that is of value to your audience. If it wasn't

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a value, you wouldn't keep your audience. What the Left

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says is that what you have, what you have created,

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is something unique and is unfair. It's not about your

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hard work, it's not about your sacrifice. It's just some

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lottery that you have been given. And that advice is

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so awful. But that's the advice that the Left gives

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people when they say, sleep in, don't worry about working,

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don't study, don't do your homework. If your boss gives

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you an assignment and you don't like it, just don't

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do it. This is awful advice, and this is what

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the Left does generally. They say to people, many of

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whom really need to hear the truth to undertake the

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absolutely worst ideas. We're watching this in Texas, where a

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young man killed another young man, and the Left wants

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us to believe that the only reason why the living

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young man was punished was because of his race, not

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because of the dastardly thing that he did exactly.

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Well, this is what the left prais on, you know,

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and everything that you just shared, Horace. And this is

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what I've become more observant of is that the Left

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is committed to dumbing everybody down. Hey man, they want

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to mediocritize everybody because a mediocre constituency is easier to

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be manipulated. Right.

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Well, again, it's easier to sleep in than it is

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to get up and work. It's easier to shirk off

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and blame your boss for being overbearing than to shoulder

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the burden and do the work. If I had been

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in the life of the Carmelo family, Carmelo Anthony Fan Anthony,

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I would have said, as soon as this happened, we're

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going down to the sheriff's office. You're going to acknowledge

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what you did wrong. And you're saying, I plan to

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plea and I'll accept whatever the sanction was. What the

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Left says is it's okay to pretend that you have

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no idea what happened. This case was a slam dunk case.

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It wasn't complicated, It didn't require a lot of intuition

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to comprehend what had occurred. This wasn't a provoked event.

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This was a pre planned event. But if mom and

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dad had gone in and just simply said my son

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acted in anger and hate and he understands that it

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was wrong, there would not have been a thirty five

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year sentence. But when you make the prosecutor whom what

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everybody knows actually happens, and then you refuse, you refuse

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to admit it. It is ironic to only a few

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on the left that the only time the young man

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cried was when he was found guilty, and when he

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was given a sentence. At no point, hearing about the

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loss of life of the person whose life he destroyed,

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did he even tear up. That is what the left says. Well,

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you don't have to be responsible, you don't have to

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act with care. You know what, it's not easy to

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go in and admit you did something wrong, exactly now,

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because his parents didn't agree to stand up and do

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what was right and what was godly, their son is

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looking at thirty five years behind bars.

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You know, this is such a heartbreak, you know, for

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both families. I feel for both of them truly, and

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but you know, let's pause for a minute and consider

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this is the fruit of our current society, and this

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would happened, right. I mean, this is a societal issue,

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and I think it's an opportunity for all of us

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to consider. You know, what's happened here. Yes, Carmelo Anthony

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is going to jail for thirty five years, but this

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is you know we've got to think about. Is this

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the yes we can do for our young kids is

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to give them a purpose and a plan to go

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and murder somebody again.

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At no point was this a hard case. It's a

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sad case. It's sad for both families. It's a very,

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very sad case. But it would have been in my

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situation with my grandmother and my mother and father, they

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would have marched me right down. I walked out of

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a store once with Eminem's, the chocolate with the peanuts inside. Oh.

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When my father saw me with that, he realized instantly

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that I hadn't paid for it. And guess what, After

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I put some salve on my backside, some of us

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went back to hand this open bag over to the

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clerk apologize, and then I watched my father pay for it.

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I didn't get to keep those Eminems up. That's leadership

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that couples the right kind of behavior when this young

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man told his parents what they should have understood immediately,

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that he was provoked, that it was just a fight

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that broke out when his parents and the people who

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nurtured him heard that story, instead of setting up a

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go fund where they got more than half a million

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dollars so that they could claim that being black is

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the only reason these charges were filed, exactly, a death occurred,

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That's why charges were filed, and no person stood up

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to accept responsibility.

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Yeah. Well, speaking of which, you know the things that

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have been used for fundraising, the SPLC does not have

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a good look here right now. Horus Cooper.

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Absolutely, Southern Poverty Law Center has been wrong for a

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while by identifying so many people of faith as terrorists,

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as advererance, as people who were dangerous, people who threatened,

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and of course the mighty powerful word bigots and racist.

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They labeled people like doctor Ben Carson at.

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Such find out. Yeah, now we find.

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Out, but there's not enough bigotry and racism in America.

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So the SPLC went and contracted out to get more

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racism and bigotry in America that they then used as

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a basis for explain I mean, why they played such

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an important role. This is awful that a group that

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was formed at a time when my grandparents needed someone

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to stand up for them and protect them, that they

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would now turn into a group that would condemn my

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grandparents for the thoughts that they had for being great

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Christian people, for understanding that biblical principles and integrity guide

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our lives. Now the SPOC is the enemy of that

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kind of upright just behavior on the part of faith

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based communities. I guess it's just ironic that we caught

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them at this and now they're likely to be labeled

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the very bigots that they used to label others.

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And they've maintained their position. I mean, in double day,

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I mean horace. The conversation that you and I've had,

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based on their own standards, could be declared as hate speech.

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Well absolutely, I mean, look, people used their list of

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locations and organizations and engaged in not just hateful rhetoric,

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but actual violence exactly.

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Charley Kirk's not alive today, and it's partly because this

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group and groups like it fed an unfair narrative. It

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wasn't well, maybe you don't agree with Charlie Kirk, it

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was he was the embodiment of hate, hostility, and bigotry,

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and some sick people hear this message and they respond

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with violence.

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He's the former constitutional law professor, recognized legal commentator and author,

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and coach of the Project twenty one National Advisory Board.

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Horace Cooper, Thank you Hars for being with us. Take care,

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be blessed you too.

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