May 7, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 05 07 26

The Bill Martinez Show 05 07 26
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The Bill Martinez Show 05 07 26
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, Okay, let's do an Ill Martinas Live a program

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about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and

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our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Well, good morning America. Glad you could join us. Bill

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Martinez here along with Mike O'Neil from Landmark Legal. Hey, Mike,

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lots of things to catch up on. As expected, the

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Supreme Court, you know, finalized the Voting Rights Act decision.

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Right, yes, great decision Louisa Louisiana versus LA last week.

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It was a win for the American people, a win

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for voting, a real recognition on the part of the

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Court that we have progressed as a society. We're moving

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ever towards that goal of a colorblind society. Congression of

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state legislatures can no longer use race or can severe

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in maybe very very extreme cases, can for all intents

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and purposes, let's be clear, can no longer use race

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to as the operative factor in how they gerrymanned are

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congressional districts.

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Well, this is only the third time the Court said, hey,

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let's let this decision take effect immediately, right right? That?

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No, No, it's imperative that this there's some reports and

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again this is just these are just reports. None of

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this is confirmed there. But there's some some rumors or

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some rustlings or some smoke that some of the left,

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left wing judges or the liberal judges were slow walking

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this decision to bring it into the point where it

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couldn't be applied for the midterm elections. I don't know

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whether that happened or not, but there's a little bit

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more evidence to support that with some of the events

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in the past couple of days to support that that

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that conclusion. But nonetheless, it looks like this is going

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to be applicable. States like Florida have already moving on this.

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Other states are poised to move on as well, and

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this is again good news. What what what are we

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saying here? The deconstructing it a little bit, and to

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get to get to the right to the heart of

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the matter, you have to think why were states discriminating

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on the basis of race? In other words, why was

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the state of Louisiana creating a second majority minority congressional district.

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And you have to ask yourself why they're doing that

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before you get to the answer, and you say, well,

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ostensibly in the past, under the voting right judges were

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doing this, and courts were doing this to remedy intentional discrimination.

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You had instances in the sixties and seventies, fifties, sixties

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and seventies, and maybe even into the eighties where you

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would have state legislatures would explicitly crack open African American neighborhoods.

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And what do I mean by crack open for congressional districting?

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What do I mean by that? Say you have an

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African American neighborhood of fifty thousand people or area of

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the town of forty or fifty thousand people. Instead of

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having all those African Americans in one congressional district or

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they would maintain voting power, the state legislature would apportion

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it in such a manner that would be three or

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four or two or three or four congressional districts. So

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you would essentially dilute that power of that African American vote,

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and the state legislature would be doing that with the

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express purpose of diluting the power of African Americans, a

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racial purpose. Now that no longer occurs. In this case

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in Louisiana, for example, there was no evidence of any

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kind of intentional discrimination. And how the congressional districts were

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drawn originally, and in absence of that intentional discrimination, there

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is no constitutional rite of play, and courts don't have

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anything to play, and it's a non justiciable decision, and

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courts are outside of that and can no longer, can

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no longer interfere in how the state apportions its congressional districts.

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And of course, on top of that, you've got the

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evolution of the culture really just in doing away with

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this idea of racism and systemic racism. And of course

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this is further evidence by the SPLC's maneuvers that they

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got caught with last week.

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Right, Yeah, it's funny how this all fits together. Right,

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And there there's another another even uh item you can

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uh uh information item. You can look on that too.

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Yeah.

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The s POC, of course, it's kind of brought itself

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to irrelevancy because of what we're talking about that they

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have to they have to create and manufacture controversy in

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order to maintain relevance. So again, allegedly, let's be very

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clear on this. This is this they're entitled just like

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everybody else in the presumption of innocence, But the indictment

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alleges that they were funneling millions of dollars to fringe organizations,

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and you can only think they will argue that, hey,

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we were paying informants and we were trying to manage informants.

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That that's specious. But what the conclusion any any reasonable

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person can draw from that is, well, you gave one

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hundred thousand dollars to a klu klux Klan organization out

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there in the hinter lands so that they continue to exist.

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So you have you have a boogeyman. You can continue

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to identify and justify your existence and raise lots of

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money off of right. So, uh, it's kind of a

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it's it's it's kind of an interesting grift. You have

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to fund your opposition to maintain your relevance because your

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opposition has no effectiveness anymore. And again, this is all

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great news. This is good. This is showing how our

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country has moved forward right towards this colored bind ideal

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that our framers and vision. And arguably there was a

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purpose for the VRA's application in congressional apportionment back in

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the sixties, seventies, and eighties when it was first done

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in the eighties. Really but largely that overwhelmingly, I shouldn't

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say largely, but for all intents and purposes, that institutional

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racism that was so that was prevalent in decades past

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no longer exists today.

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This is really, as you said in the opening, this

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is a victory for America. You know that we can

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go you know, we aren't racist. You know, it's like

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there's clear evidence. I mean, we've known all along, you know,

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because whenever you know the race card would be thrown out,

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you pause for a minute.

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You know.

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It's kind of like a shank in golf. You know,

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where did that come from? You know, and you have

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to kind of meditate on that a moment. And we've

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been chewed up by it, and now the courts are

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even agreeing that, no, there is no systemic racism. We're

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not a racist country now on all these organizations that

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have been grifting off of this and you know, having

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you know, accounts, which is another situation, having bank accounts offshore.

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You know, yeah, yeah, I mean two a couple things.

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Let me touch on the There is another interesting point

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I want to make about the lack of systemic racism

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and racism in voting, and then we could touch on

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SPLC for a second, And I think a really good

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example is the Virginia gubernatorial election in twenty twenty five,

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because you had an African American Republican nominee running against

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a white, suburban Democrat nominee. So you really kind of

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had really a good test case to show this. Now,

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I'm a native Virginian. I live in Virginia. My daughter

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goes to cool down in southwest Virginia, so I'm intimately

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kind of familiar with the makeup of Virginia and and

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how it works. So they're parts of Virginia that have

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that's still again towards the southwestern parts of the state,

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where you can still see the Confederate flag, right and

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it's flying, people have Confederate flags on their bumpers, et cetera.

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You also have sons of the Confederacy marches in some

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of these towns. So people, you know, the hoy POLOI

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would call them racist. Well, if you look at how

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they voted in twenty twenty five, it doesn't jib because

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in counties, I'll give you an example, Taswell County, which

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is in the southwestern part of Virginia, and the part

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of that I was talking about, voted overwhelmingly. This is

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a ninety percent plus white county and they voted over

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eighty percent for a black Republican woman.

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Wow wow, So what does that tell you?

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And conversely, on the other side of the ledger, Abigail Spaanberger,

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who is a white Democrat, secured over ninety percent of

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the African American vote. So look at this, So what

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does that tell you? That tells you that even in

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the so called racist parts of Virginia, those folks were

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so racist that they voted overwhelmingly for a black gubernatorial

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Republican blackbat a black woman for the guminatorial race. Now

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what motivated those people? They race was not dispositive, Bill,

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What was dispositive was wins Earl Series is positions on guns, guns,

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really guns, that's a big one. Taxes, immigration, you know,

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maybe the war on other other states.

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And still gender protection protection in that Republicans.

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Right, nothing that we could see that race was not

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was not a factor in it, because if it had

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been a factor, you wouldn't she would have secured over

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eighty percent of the vote. In fact, the whiter the

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county in Virginia, the higher the degree wins Earl Series won. So.

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And on the other side again and on the other

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side of the ledger African Americans. This is important to

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talk about it both sides here. African Americans did not

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care that Abigail Spamberger is a white woman. What did

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they care about, Well, they cared about the fact that

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she's a Democrat. That's what motivated them to vote for her.

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It wasn't. So the point here is to your point

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about color blind society, I would just simply say to

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anybody who says that race is somehow motivating or is

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somehow operative in the electoral process, look at Virginia twenty

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five and explain that to me.

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Legal Foundations Vice president Michael Uh yeah, I get the

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bottom line of all this is there's clear evidence that

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and that supports this decision by Gotis, and uh you know,

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so this is awesome.

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forward politically, We'll see how how this shakes out. I

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think the Gerrymander wars have begun, yeah, I mean if

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they hadn't begun, they if they hadn't they had already begun.

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But I think this, of course is probably an escalation

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in that. Now you're gonna you see what DeSantis, Governor

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DeSantis did in Florida. Moved very rapidly, and kudos to

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him for having his ducks in the line and ready

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to go right when that decision came down. Again, more

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more exceptional leadership from uh Ron DeSantis, which you know,

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it's just he just continues to set the bar higher

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and higher for for Republicans in the country right now.

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So that's that's important. But again, well.

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You got New York, you got New York's New York reaction.

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You knew that was gonna happen.

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to continue. But fundamentally, what this is is this is

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a political and this is what the Supreme Court really

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get to get the heart of the matter is. And

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this is what the Court's been trending to. If you

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look at how they refuse to hear the California case,

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refuse to hear the Texas case with regards to their

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congressionary redistricting. The Court is saying, these are political decisions,

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These are non justiciable. The courts don't have jurisdiction to

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hear these, These are these are issues that should be

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should be wrangled out amongst the political branches.

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To the victor belong the spoils basically, I mean.

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For what it is. And the Court's rationale is this.

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And you know, people might say, well, my vote power

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is being deluded. It's unfair, and it's unfair that I

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live in a forty five percent state of Republican state

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in Virginia and I'm only going to have you know,

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one congressional representative in Congress. How is that fair? Well, again,

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the court says the the Supreme Court says, look, it's

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not our job to adjudicate fairness. It's our job to

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adjudicate violations of constitutional rights. Right, and you don't have

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a constitutional right to a republic publican representative. I don't

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have a constitutional right to a Democrat representative. If the

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state is discriminating on the basis of race, that implicates

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the fourteenth and fifteenth Amendment, and then you can't discriminate

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on the basis rates. That's their constitutional hook there. So

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until Congress passes a law, and unless they pass the law,

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they might not if they probably won't, they might regarding

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apportionment and Republican and political apportionment representative in Congress, then

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this is just going to be hashed out the way

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it's being hashed out in state legislatures.

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Well, and this is why the importance of the Save

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Act comes into play, Mike. We've got to secure elections

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because the majority of Americans, Republican Democrat do not have,

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you know, a lot of confidence in the election process

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as it stands today.

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Yeah, that's another important piece of legislation that needs to

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get through asap. I mean again, it's I think there's

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been a little movement on it in Congress now in

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the Senate, it's been as we've said, I said repeatedly

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on the show. It's been it's been languishing in the

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Senate for months at this point. And this is something

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that eighty percent of Americans agree on across all demographics CNN.

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I just saw a recent a recent poland CNN just

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in the past week, seventy five percent of African Americans

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think you should show voter identification to vote. Seventy five

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percent of African Americans, right, And that's eighty percent of Caucasians,

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eighty percent of Hispanics. So across all demographics, Republicans, Democrats, Blacks, Whites, Hispanics,

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everybody agrees that you should show idea to vote. Why

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there isn't a federal law on the books for this

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is absurd at this point, right, absolutely absurd until it

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gets through, you know, the Senate shouldn't do anything other

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than well, fun makes I think they've gotten the DHS

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funding through, but after that next thing on the line

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should be getting voter id through asap.

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Absolutely well, exactly because this idea of fairness. People don't

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like things when they they're unfair, you know, and you know,

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you know, here you are in a state like Virginia

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and you're going to have only one Republican representative. So

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you're going to go, why you know, and so this

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is why your vote matters. But it's going to take

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a little bit of time. It's not going to be

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as immediate as a court decision to ferret this out

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because like all things political, you get those you know,

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the resistance that takes place because you know, the Democratic

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Party is in a scramble right now because their model

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has been turned on its head. Right.

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and I think that's really the point here is if

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you take reasonable measures to secure the vote, i e.

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Remove non citizens from voting roles, Mandate that you establish

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your citizenship when you register to vote, and also and

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obligate an individual to show voter ID limit bail voting. Again,

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I'm a big proponent of this. Mail voting is with

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you an opportunity to doctor and to doctor and all

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kinds of mouth feasans when it comes to voting. I'm

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not saying that you shouldn't have mail voting in certain instances.

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I know that certain states are wedded to it. Nonetheless,

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people should be expected to vote in person and on

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election day when I don't think that's too much to

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ask paper ballots. If you do use mail voting, I

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think President Trump's executive order is applicable here. There needs

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to be some secure measures. There need to be measures

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to tighten that up. I think his executive order is

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probably within his executive power. That's always a question. What

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he's proposed is implementing rules for the mail service, the

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Postal Service putting security measures on mail ballots. I think

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that that's probably within the power purview of the Postal

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Service to do. Again, we have to secure this. When

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people lose confidence in the fact that their vote doesn't count,

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that's a really bad thing. We've talked about this before

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as well.

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Bill.

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You have to feel like your vote counts. And if

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you feel like your vote counts and you had a

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fair shot at it and you lost, the American way

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is to accept it. But if you feel like that

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you're you know that it's not fair and your vote

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count didn't count, that walks us down a really dangerous path.

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Well, look what happened on January sixth, Yeah to this day,

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which still hasn't been settled. You know, fact that you

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had fellow Americans, you know, exercising their civil right and

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duty to question, uh, you know, to question the process,

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and they end up in jail and persecuted and stuff

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like this. I mean, this is egregious, you know what

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was done to the citizens of America only because they

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just had questions.

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Yeah, legitimate questions, right, And this is this is what

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I've said, is mail voting just undermines the process because

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when you it's well, let me say, there's there's gonna

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be a Supreme Court decision that's going to come down

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to the next hopefully in the next couple of weeks

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here regarding election day, right, whether states can have these

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ballots that are collected post election day and whether that

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that's violative of the law. And I think that I

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think the Court's going to go no, election day means

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election day. You can't have a state law that says

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we accept our ballots three weeks after election day, which

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is absurd because you have a three week window where

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the state of we're bad actors in the state of Washington,

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exactly a bad incentive to have. Look, either, if you're

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gonna have a mail vote, it's bad enough that you

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have a mail vote. If you're gonna have is it

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too much to expect you to have your ballot received

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by election day. Come on, give me a freaking break bill.

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That's not too much to ask. Get it in if

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you have to take it to the drop box, if

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you have to, if you're gonna mail vote by mail,

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make sure you get it in five days before the

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election day. It's not too it's not too much to

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ask to do these little things.

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Well, and then the deal is is that the Democrats

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have taken these minor elusive suggestions and possibilities and they've

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made it into uh, you know, you know, into a

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mountain out of a molehill, you know. But that's what

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they do time until I have to Yeah.

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See what happens is they have to because they have

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to exploit the vulnerabilities in the system to ensure their

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own elections. If they don't, if they don't exploit those elections,

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their numbers drop precipitously. If you don't have it's not

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it's not a coincidence that in mail vote states, it's there.

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Those are one party states, right, I mean, come on,

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are you telling me that's a coincidence? That you're telling

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me something that I just can't buy right that when

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you have reasonable protections on the votes. What does it

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mean when you see that there's when you have to

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vote on an election day, when you have to show

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ID to vote, when you have to vote by, when

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you have paper ballots, when you have all of these

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normal protections, what does it tell you that in those cases,

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loot of Democrats don't get elected in those states in

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those races. But when you have open voting, oh lo

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and behold, suddenly it becomes California and Democrats have super

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majorities across the board. I mean, it's I'm not saying

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it's incredibly very difficult to show voter or fraud, but

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when you have no reasonable protections, it opens the door

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to any kind of mouth seasons, all kinds of mischief.

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You can. You can manufacture votes through ballot harvesting and

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mail voting and open elections, And if it looks like

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you're only within two or three thousand votes for an outcome,

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it doesn't take a lot to go out there and

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find three or four thousand votes.

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It really does exactly imperative.

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Yeah, they probably already have in a back room somewhere

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and they just know what file drawer to go to

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if they need it. A final seconds here. This was

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interesting that, you know, because it's rare that you get,

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you know, kind of behind the doors of scotus. But

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this caused some iron conflict between Cantanji Brown Jackson and Alito. Yeah,

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in the conservative group. I mean she she attacked the

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conservative you know justices because they decided to immediately finalize

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the Voting Rights Action decision.

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Right right, There was a little there were some procedural

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missteps by the part of the individual the people who

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were trying to advocate on behalf of the implementation of

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this new majority minority district, and they they missed, they

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missed an opportunity to petition for reconsideration. And you know,

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Justice Alito said, okay, look it's you missed it. You

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missed your shot. It's too late. We're going to implement

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this immediately now. And Justice Jackson took ire with that,

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and then Justice is Uh Alito and others were forced

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to respond. I think this is not smart business for

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for Justice Jackson. Look, she has to work with these individuals.

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There's nine of them. There's nine justices on the Supreme Court.

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You have to build coalitions and have maintain relationships with

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these people. Even if they are different, if they are

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from a different ideological or political spectrum, or approach their

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analysis differently than you do. Nonetheless, you you're not effective

472
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if you continue to isolate yourself in this manner in

473
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order to score points with the left or however you

474
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want to be.

475
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Well, what what is this the second or third time

476
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that she's bumped into the justice right now?

477
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Yeah, it's it's and and here's the thing is you're

478
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some You're you're increasing, not increasing, but at least several opportunities.

479
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And you pointed this out. She's the loan. She doesn't

480
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even have an ally and soa and Justice soon to

481
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my ore. Yeah, right, So think of where where does

482
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that come from? If if if Justice Soona my Ore

483
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isn't joining you, maybe you're a little bit out there.

484
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Maybe you should, maybe you should pull Maybe you should

485
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pull back on the reins or throttle back a lit little

486
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bit on what you're saying, because you know, maybe you

487
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have these passionate beliefs, but the applicability to Supreme Court

488
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jurisprudence isn't the time, isn't the way to express it?

489
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And again, you're further isolating yourself. You're not going to

490
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move the ball in any way. I keep thinking about,

491
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look at let's look at this, and I know we're

492
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going along here, but this is important to talk about.

493
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Justice Thomas is celebrating now he's the second longest serving

494
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justice on the Supreme Court. Right, his career had started

495
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in the early nineteen nineties, had to spanned decades. Look

496
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at how he's been able to move the court in

497
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a direction, and look at the way and for all

498
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every report out of the Supreme Court as this is

499
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a gem of a man. This is probably our greatest

500
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living American. And he didn't even though his descents early

501
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on in his tenure. We're out there and he was

502
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setting a he was setting a position out there. He

503
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continued to maintain the relationships to move the court and away.

504
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Now would if I were a liberal justice sitting on

505
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the Supreme Court, that would be my model. Although I

506
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might agree with them philosophically, I wouldn't isolate myself from

507
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the rest of the court because ultimately, what is your

508
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goal here? Whatever, I'm trying to stand in her shoes, right,

509
00:26:08.200 --> 00:26:08.839
what is her goal?

510
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Right?

511
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No, exactly, but look at Justice Thomas's goal, right, that

512
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should be your model. Justice Thomas, not isolating yourself to

513
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the point where all the other justices are forced to

514
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use increasingly strident language in responding to you.

515
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Yeah, you're going to end up. I guess your only

516
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relief is write a book or get a podcast r

517
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I guess you know. So what do you do? We'll

518
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leave it there. Mike O'Neil from Landmark Legal, Thank you, Michael,

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doctor Wilfrid Riley. He is the professor of political science

588
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Kentucky State University, the author of Kaboo, Ten Facts You

589
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Can't Talk About and Live's my liberal teacher taught me.

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Hey doctor, Well, how are we doing?

591
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Doing pretty well? Bill? How are you?

592
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Hey? Well, I'm in California experiencing the high price of

593
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castoline here. It's just nuts. I cannot believe this. And

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of course the political season is here in the run

595
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for mayor, and it's causing a lot of attention here

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with Spencer Pratt running for la mayor. I mean, he's

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got probably one of the greatest political ads of all time.

598
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That's been airing all over Los Angeles here, so pretty hysterical.

599
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So what is the price of gas in California?

600
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Well, i'll tell you. The other day, my dear friend

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told me he paid eight dollars and fifty cents per

602
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gallon of gas. Eight dollars and fifty I've seen it

603
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anywhere from five to fifty. He was. He was desperate,

604
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he was down to zero in his tank, and I

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just said, well, why don't you just put in, you know,

606
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a couple of gallons you didn't need to go and

607
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you know, fill up at eight fifty My goodness, you

608
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almost had to go out and take a loan. But

609
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you know, the thing is it's disturbing about this will

610
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is that I think I was talking with somebody else,

611
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you know, that still lives in the area. He says,

612
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over two dollars per gallon is just taxes and fees

613
00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:31.039
that goes to California.

614
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Yeah, I'm not surprised by that at all. In really

615
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high tax states, you've got taxes on virtually everything you

616
00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:42.160
could imagine. And I mean I think a lot of

617
00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:45.640
young people and they realize what taxes aren't don't understand that.

618
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:47.559
I mean, you see payroll tax coming out of your

619
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check up to one hundred and twelve thousand or whatever.

620
00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:52.440
You maybe have to pay income tax, but you don't

621
00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:55.319
understand there's also a city tax, a state tax, a

622
00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:58.880
gasoline tax, a property tax, your tax if you die.

623
00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:02.359
So California the highest tax state in the Union. And

624
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I mean, I think everyone who's been out there on

625
00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:07.079
business or to live has seen like the reality of

626
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that practice.

627
00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:10.880
Yeah, it's just amazing to me. But and the deal

628
00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:13.720
is is that if you had something positive to show

629
00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:15.880
for it and say, well, well, at least we got

630
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:18.759
the best educated kids on the planet. I mean, look

631
00:32:18.759 --> 00:32:21.599
at look at Chicago, look at Illinois for example, what

632
00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:24.240
what is their ranking? I was just reading about this

633
00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:29.880
the other day. I don't know. Their proficiency is you know,

634
00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:33.480
you know, just in reading. I think, is uh just

635
00:32:33.559 --> 00:32:37.400
some you know, unacceptable number for all the money that

636
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:41.519
they're pouring into Illinois. It's just it's just amazing to

637
00:32:41.559 --> 00:32:44.279
me that they're able to get away with this. But California,

638
00:32:44.359 --> 00:32:47.039
same thing. I mean, their proficiency in reading and math

639
00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:50.799
skills are just you know, very unacceptable for the amount

640
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of money that we're pouring into the education system.

641
00:32:53.599 --> 00:32:58.759
Right, Yeah, I mean, there's almost no correlation whatsoever between

642
00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:01.160
the amount of money that's spent on higher ed and

643
00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:03.400
the quality of the schools. And this, again is something

644
00:33:03.440 --> 00:33:06.359
that I think is just objectively amazing to a lot

645
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of people. But every year they look at who the

646
00:33:08.599 --> 00:33:11.079
best scoring American kids are, and it's people who are

647
00:33:11.079 --> 00:33:13.920
like homeschooled by their mom. And then it's people who

648
00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:17.720
go to small Catholic schools that have very very little budget,

649
00:33:18.200 --> 00:33:21.279
And the schools in places like Chicago, where we spend

650
00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:24.640
thirty thousand dollars per kit, are almost always terrible. So yeah,

651
00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:28.319
there's that. It's not a reverse loop. There's a very

652
00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:32.079
slight improvement if you look at money given across the country,

653
00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:34.519
but it's really not the impact you'd expect or you'd

654
00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:37.119
imagine from mass financial contributions.

655
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:39.319
Well, I found that number I was looking for, ten

656
00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:43.039
billion is the annual budget in Chicago. Only forty three

657
00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:46.839
percent ten billion. Only forty three percent of students are

658
00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:51.200
proficient in reading, twenty seven percent are proficient in math.

659
00:33:51.400 --> 00:33:53.160
And keep in mind, the only reason they got those

660
00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:55.799
numbers they lowered the standards.

661
00:33:57.319 --> 00:33:59.680
Yeah, I mean, it's it really is pretty remarkable. I

662
00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:02.359
will say Hey, Chicago schools range from those in the

663
00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:04.960
hood that are absolutely terrible to those on the gold

664
00:34:05.079 --> 00:34:07.559
coast of the Lake that are pretty good. So I

665
00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:10.800
mean forty three percent proficient in what you say.

666
00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:14.960
Reading in in reading, yes, forty three percent in reading.

667
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:17.840
Yeah, that's actually about the national number. I mean, so

668
00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:21.480
proficient is above grade level top half. So I mean,

669
00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:23.960
it's never going to be Lake Wobegon, It's never going

670
00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:26.760
to be everybody, but it is still pretty remarkable. I mean,

671
00:34:26.760 --> 00:34:29.559
in Chicago we spend thirty one thousand dollars per kit.

672
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:32.760
And you know, a blackboard costs two hundred bucks if

673
00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:34.960
you have to put the slates together. A book is

674
00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:38.079
twenty dollars. You really do wonder what the rest of

675
00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:40.920
the money goes for. And I will say one tip

676
00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:43.239
is that if you go downtown in Chicago and you

677
00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:46.639
walk toward State Street and Michigan Avenue down like Lacelle,

678
00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:50.159
you'll actually see the Chicago Board of Education, which is

679
00:34:50.199 --> 00:34:54.159
a forty story skyscraper with you know, brass faucet handles

680
00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:55.760
and so on. So the question is how much of

681
00:34:55.800 --> 00:34:58.519
the money that comes in really gets directed to the

682
00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:01.199
average school in some poor block, black or Irish neighborhood,

683
00:35:01.400 --> 00:35:03.880
and I tend to suspect not a whole lot. But

684
00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:05.760
that's a set of books I've never opened.

685
00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:09.039
Well, we've known for a long time in a general

686
00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:13.760
consensus idea of what's going on there, and that is

687
00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:18.000
that you look at the structure and it's administratively heavy.

688
00:35:18.800 --> 00:35:21.639
Oh yeah, and so that tells you. That tells you

689
00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:25.119
right there, because look at with all the administrators that

690
00:35:25.159 --> 00:35:28.320
you've got in the system, you're worse off than you

691
00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:30.119
were than before.

692
00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:36.239
Yeah. I mean, so this is a problem throughout the

693
00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:40.679
country that's been called bureaucratic, creep, elite, overproduction at the

694
00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:42.840
entry end, so on down the line. But when you

695
00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:45.599
talk about how every field has gotten a lot bigger

696
00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:48.119
and a lot more expensive, that doesn't mean we have

697
00:35:48.159 --> 00:35:51.239
a lot more qualified airline pilots than we used to.

698
00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:53.360
We have a lot more qualified good docs than we

699
00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:55.960
used to. It means that in every field they're all

700
00:35:56.000 --> 00:35:59.760
of these paper pushers with BA degrees that are just

701
00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:04.239
complicating and slowing down what used to be done. Did

702
00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:06.599
you see that thing on Twitter and Facebook that went

703
00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:10.320
viral about invent a new chess piece. No, I didn't

704
00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:13.880
see that was okay, Like there was a discussion. It

705
00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:15.920
was a Muslim guy that asked originally because there's a

706
00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:17.920
game shah or something that's like chess. It was a

707
00:36:17.960 --> 00:36:18.880
wholesome conversation.

708
00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:20.840
I heard some remnants of it, but I didn't quite

709
00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:22.320
get it. So I'm glad you're bringing it up.

710
00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:24.880
Go ahead. But they asked what. So people were talking

711
00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:26.639
about if you can create one new chess piece, what

712
00:36:26.679 --> 00:36:28.719
would it be like? The Queen for those who play chess,

713
00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:30.519
can go anywhere on the board. The king's the most

714
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:32.880
powerful piece, but he can only move one space surrounded

715
00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:36.119
by soldiers and anyway. Someone said that the chess piece

716
00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:38.800
they would invent would be called the Bureaucrat. It wouldn't

717
00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:41.039
be able to take pieces or do anything useful, but

718
00:36:41.079 --> 00:36:42.880
it could move to any space on the board and

719
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just slow things down, just get in the way. And

720
00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:49.199
I thought that was absolutely hilarious. But that is what

721
00:36:49.239 --> 00:36:53.360
we're seeing, I mean so in medicine and some people

722
00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:56.800
cremew The stats guy on Twitter's pointed out that this

723
00:36:56.840 --> 00:36:59.360
is a bit exaggerated, but most people in business have

724
00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:01.320
seen this chart where it's like there's a yellow line

725
00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:03.280
at the bottom that's a number of doctors, and that

726
00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:06.119
yellow line about doubles between World War two and today.

727
00:37:06.159 --> 00:37:08.079
We had a lot of docs during our period of

728
00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:11.280
peak military conflict. Then there's a blue bar which starts

729
00:37:11.320 --> 00:37:14.960
at almost nothing and increases untill it's four times the

730
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size of the doctor bar. And that's the bar for

731
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all the other people in hospitals like you, admissions, paperwork, analytics, legal,

732
00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:26.039
I mean, if you're a Cleveland clinic or something, as

733
00:37:26.079 --> 00:37:28.079
a staff of four or five lawyers on the premises

734
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at any given time. Right, So that's why it costs

735
00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:32.920
so much money to go to the doctor, Like you're

736
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sure they charge you at ten bucks for an advoc

737
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but they only give you two. The real reason is

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all the built in protection against lawsuits, the going back

739
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and forth with pharma about the cost of drugs, the

740
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stuff that were it removed, no one would notice. So yeah,

741
00:37:49.199 --> 00:37:51.679
that's an issue throughout society and less thing. But I mean,

742
00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:54.760
in education, I think we've been hit harder by this

743
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than almost everybody. There's a book called The Fall of

744
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the Faculty, which makes a really obvious point that until

745
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maybe thirty forty years ago, if you went to a

746
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college campus, you'd find professors students and coaches. Today, if

747
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you go to a college campus, you find a building

748
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sized office of diversity, and you know, whatever inclusion belonging

749
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you find. I mean, the athletic department has grown until

750
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:23.199
it's a quarter of the campus, multiple stadiums and zombie

751
00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:25.559
that's at least defensible. But you also find like the

752
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Office of Greek Life admissions, attendance advising, and these were

753
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all things that the dean of a department used to do.

754
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So this was the whole idea of the book bs jobs.

755
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That many people no longer provide core services. They do

756
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things like make bets on the money that the people

757
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who provide core services trade. And yeah, I think that's

758
00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:47.920
a problem across fields.

759
00:38:48.360 --> 00:38:51.000
Well, yeah, I think you know, you're exactly right. I mean,

760
00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:53.800
it has invaded our culture such a way that it

761
00:38:53.840 --> 00:38:58.599
is it's acceptable, and nobody's asking the question, you know,

762
00:38:58.920 --> 00:39:01.480
does it really work? You see? And this is why

763
00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:04.960
I believe Donald Trump is such a disturbance in the force,

764
00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:09.039
because Donald Trump is just a common sense business guy

765
00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:10.719
that says, hey, I got to get the job done,

766
00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:13.599
get all these regulations out of way, get all these

767
00:39:13.639 --> 00:39:16.320
things that are not helping us, that are hurting us.

768
00:39:16.679 --> 00:39:18.760
Just get them out of the way. Well, my goodness,

769
00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:21.159
that's a lot of cheese to be moving around, and

770
00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:23.199
a lot of angry people are going, wait a minute,

771
00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:26.360
you can't move my cheese. You know, I've worked hard

772
00:39:26.440 --> 00:39:29.000
and I've got a cushy job here and you're disturbing

773
00:39:29.239 --> 00:39:30.440
you know, my piece? Right?

774
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Yeah?

775
00:39:31.880 --> 00:39:34.360
I mean, I think that the ultimate example of this

776
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:37.760
might be the closing of US AID, which is one

777
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:41.039
of the few things that not for want of trying,

778
00:39:41.119 --> 00:39:42.320
and he did a good job, But this is one

779
00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:44.559
of the things Elon Musk was really able to notck

780
00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:47.760
through in Washington, DC. And every time I read an

781
00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:50.679
article about what the people who used to staff US

782
00:39:50.760 --> 00:39:53.679
eight are doing, it's presented in a way that's supposed

783
00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:56.360
to make you feel really sympathetic and like the times

784
00:39:56.360 --> 00:40:00.000
are the post, but it actually makes me wonder why

785
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:02.880
we were paying all these salaries at this level for

786
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:04.480
so long exactly.

787
00:40:04.800 --> 00:40:06.719
Hey, well let me pause you there for a second.

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Hey, we're back with you, Bill Martinez here with the

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professor and author, doctor Wilford Riley. Anyway, well let's pick

872
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it up. What you were talking about, Go ahead, I

873
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don't know.

874
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I mean, well, we've seen this whole surge of articles about,

875
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you know, whither USA and what happened to the people

876
00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:34.880
that used to be working there. That's constantly mentioned that

877
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only sixty six percent of them have found new jobs.

878
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But like every one of the job titles is like

879
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you know, doctor Gertrude Alvins was paid two hundred and

880
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fifty two thousand dollars per year to supervise the Indigenous

881
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Museum of Homosexuality and to pulta Pec, Honduras, just like

882
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and I exaggerated that one a little bit, Just like

883
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these crazy jobs, and there was not only were there

884
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a lot of people in US eight that were supervising

885
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these grants to institutions like that one, they're also you

886
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realized that a huge chunk of the NNGO network, the

887
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non governmental organizational charitable sector, was basically just funded by us.

888
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Like these people were taking their share of the taxpayer

889
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money thirty billion or whatever it was, and they were

890
00:45:19.800 --> 00:45:22.639
giving it to this network of institutions that would in

891
00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:27.599
no way exist without that subsidy. Exactly with that cut,

892
00:45:27.639 --> 00:45:29.800
like a huge number of them are closing, but the

893
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same number of useless jobs exist in most fields. Like

894
00:45:33.519 --> 00:45:35.559
I liked some of my colleagues in these jobs. Their

895
00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:38.679
personable ex fraternity pledge captains. That's how they got back

896
00:45:38.719 --> 00:45:41.000
on the campus. But I mean you could really get

897
00:45:41.079 --> 00:45:46.599
rid of like Greek life on any university campus, even admissions. Yeah,

898
00:45:46.639 --> 00:45:49.119
I mean you could have four faculty members doing our

899
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service with a pen and you know a list of

900
00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:56.519
test scores. This stuff is the luxury of wealth. I

901
00:45:56.519 --> 00:45:59.880
guess to some extent, like when we were rich, when

902
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everything was swollen baby boom, we were able to do this.

903
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We were able to say, well, wouldn't it be great

904
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to have five people that just keep an eye on

905
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:10.440
whether anyone tells a body joke at work? And thus

906
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was born hr And now as we look at the

907
00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:15.840
role of this stuff, there is a question of is

908
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:17.039
it time to cut most of it?

909
00:46:17.519 --> 00:46:21.400
Yeah? I mean again, you know, how can you justify it?

910
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You know?

911
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:24.920
And where's the bottom line of all this? Are we

912
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better off with it or without it? And I guess

913
00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:30.199
these are some of the questions that we're asking. We're

914
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:33.679
gonna really ask these questions as that thirty nine trillion

915
00:46:33.760 --> 00:46:37.800
dollars of debt, you know, continues to compound and get

916
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:40.679
to the point where you know, we're in serious trouble

917
00:46:40.719 --> 00:46:42.159
if we're not already.

918
00:46:41.719 --> 00:46:47.920
Will Yeah, I think that's correct. So one of the

919
00:46:47.960 --> 00:46:50.239
things that I learned when I got into sort of

920
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elite space life, when I wrote a couple of books.

921
00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:55.440
I mean, it's like that jockey who said, you know,

922
00:46:55.679 --> 00:46:58.480
it's hard not to change when you start sleeping silk pajamas.

923
00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:01.119
Like as I started meeting meeting some of these people.

924
00:47:01.360 --> 00:47:01.920
One of the.

925
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Things that I realized is that there's no one that's

926
00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:07.880
dramatically smarter than you or me, or another kind of

927
00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:11.360
up middle class business person. And as a kid, you think, well,

928
00:47:11.400 --> 00:47:14.760
there must be a plan, right. This is where even

929
00:47:14.760 --> 00:47:18.360
conspiracy theories come from, the idea that things just can't

930
00:47:18.400 --> 00:47:21.320
be as erratic as they look. So we're thirty eight

931
00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:23.320
trillion dollars in debt. We can't just to take in

932
00:47:23.360 --> 00:47:25.599
the credit card and max that out. It's like you're

933
00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:27.639
talking to your wife on a more personal level. But

934
00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:30.000
the reality is that that's what we did. I mean,

935
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:32.000
like we really If you talk to guys in DC

936
00:47:32.199 --> 00:47:34.719
that are the heads of congressional staffs, they'll just say, well,

937
00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:36.639
you know, we had to match the Democrats to some

938
00:47:36.719 --> 00:47:40.480
extent or people wouldn't vote for us. And you realize, well,

939
00:47:41.280 --> 00:47:44.320
we actually just do old forty trillion dollars, and we

940
00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:47.679
really are spending it on things like the Museum of

941
00:47:47.880 --> 00:47:52.000
Indigenous Homosexuality, which I guarantee exists. Like I made that

942
00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:54.000
up as a joke, but I have one hundred percent

943
00:47:54.079 --> 00:47:56.719
guarantee that there is something with almost exactly that name

944
00:47:56.880 --> 00:47:58.119
that the US government.

945
00:47:57.840 --> 00:48:00.920
Or even something more ludicrous than that. That's the sad part.

946
00:48:01.079 --> 00:48:03.519
The other thing is is that, you know, again I'm

947
00:48:03.559 --> 00:48:06.320
talking to ECON experts and going tell me of the

948
00:48:06.320 --> 00:48:08.920
thirty nine trillion dollars in debt, how much of that

949
00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:11.800
is not tied to votes? They said, oh, it's all

950
00:48:11.840 --> 00:48:15.840
tied to votes, and so in a proportion and inordinate

951
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:18.519
proportion of that money. I still can't get the breakdown,

952
00:48:18.559 --> 00:48:21.559
will but I want to find out how much goes

953
00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:26.440
to specific parties. Now, my gut says, gives me an

954
00:48:26.480 --> 00:48:31.320
indication that is going to a predominant party. And this

955
00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:35.800
is part of the this is their operating system, you know,

956
00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:38.159
and that's why they're so upset about, you know, the

957
00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:40.800
fraud being discovered. You know, I mentioned I'm in California

958
00:48:41.079 --> 00:48:43.920
and they got this, you know, this anti Nick Shirley

959
00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:46.639
law that they're trying to pass because they don't want

960
00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:50.199
anybody you know, checking out, you know, for fraud in

961
00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:52.239
the state. They want to make it illegal.

962
00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:57.039
Yeah. I think it's insane that that either literally and

963
00:48:57.199 --> 00:49:00.400
actually or at least informally, it's called the stop Nick shirt.

964
00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:03.519
I mean, so congrats to him. I mean, he's inspired

965
00:49:03.519 --> 00:49:07.280
a law. But Yeah, there are two things there. One,

966
00:49:08.400 --> 00:49:11.400
it's very common for conservatives like my buddy Ran Paul

967
00:49:11.519 --> 00:49:13.039
to do this thing where we add up all the

968
00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:15.800
money that's spent each year on the museum. I just

969
00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:19.039
described or like that study that looked at the effects

970
00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:22.679
of cocaine on quails and found that female quails become

971
00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:25.639
more social and sexually active on cocaine, which is funny

972
00:49:25.639 --> 00:49:29.760
and actually might have some implications. But there's a tendency

973
00:49:29.760 --> 00:49:31.519
on the right to list that kind of stuff and say,

974
00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:33.280
let's cut all this crap and then the budget will

975
00:49:33.280 --> 00:49:36.639
be balanced. When you said, no, most of the money

976
00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:39.360
goes into very large programs that are used to buy votes.

977
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:42.960
That's the real problem. Yeah, Like the biggest Yeah, the

978
00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:47.280
biggest expenses in the United States are Medicaid, welfare. To

979
00:49:47.320 --> 00:49:51.800
be fair, Medicare for our seniors, trycare for the military,

980
00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:54.960
and half of that you can at least defend. But

981
00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:58.480
then you know a series of wick you know, food

982
00:49:58.519 --> 00:50:01.599
stamps and the military. Like, that's another thing that we

983
00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:04.039
have to acknowledge on the right. That's a trillion dollar budget.

984
00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:08.880
So actually cutting the budget would require getting into Medicare, Medicaid,

985
00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:12.639
social Security. I didn't even mention by both parties getting

986
00:50:12.679 --> 00:50:15.559
into welfare for the left, getting into arms for the right,

987
00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:21.039
and actually cutting the massive eighty percent majority of that spend,

988
00:50:21.119 --> 00:50:24.159
and everyone's afraid to do that. That's point one. Point

989
00:50:24.199 --> 00:50:28.800
two is that when we talk about medicaid medicare, something

990
00:50:28.840 --> 00:50:33.920
that's become more relevant recently with mass and especially illegal immigration,

991
00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:37.280
is that there's a huge amount of fraud. Like traditionally

992
00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:40.480
Americans didn't builk these programs all that much, White and

993
00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:43.280
for that matter, atos black Americans just didn't for whatever

994
00:50:43.320 --> 00:50:47.760
reason cultural honesty. Right now we're seeing these crazy scams

995
00:50:47.800 --> 00:50:53.280
like the Somali thing in Minneapolis. What clue people into

996
00:50:53.320 --> 00:50:56.119
that scam, and I'm not making this up for exaggerating it,

997
00:50:56.280 --> 00:50:58.599
was that the amount of money spent on kids who

998
00:50:58.599 --> 00:51:03.239
were diagnosed as auto histic in a period of maybe

999
00:51:03.239 --> 00:51:06.000
a decade went from three million to I believe one

1000
00:51:06.039 --> 00:51:09.199
hundred and forty four million. And it emerged, yeah, that

1001
00:51:09.320 --> 00:51:13.480
these large Somali families were simply having every kid diagnosed

1002
00:51:13.480 --> 00:51:16.119
as autistic. If you're a quiet, young male, you can

1003
00:51:16.159 --> 00:51:19.039
you can get that diagnosis from a quack doctor and

1004
00:51:19.159 --> 00:51:21.599
they were then eligible for a range of state goodies

1005
00:51:21.920 --> 00:51:25.599
so one the core of the spending isn't quails doing coke.

1006
00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:27.440
I don't know how they did it. They don't have nostrils,

1007
00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:31.840
but pellets or whatever. It's not that, it's the big programs,

1008
00:51:31.960 --> 00:51:35.039
and the big programs are now being hit by organized

1009
00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:38.239
often international fraudsters, and we're going to have to tackle

1010
00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:40.119
both those things to balance the budget.

1011
00:51:40.679 --> 00:51:43.039
Well exactly, well, you know here it is. Look what

1012
00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:47.360
happened you say in Minneapolis, eighty thousand somalis as a

1013
00:51:47.440 --> 00:51:52.000
voting block control the entire state. Will I mean, think

1014
00:51:52.039 --> 00:51:54.559
about that. And here it is, I mean the tails

1015
00:51:54.559 --> 00:51:57.320
shaking the dog. And you mentioned Social Security and I

1016
00:51:57.360 --> 00:52:00.679
was looking into it. The government owes the account over

1017
00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:04.760
two trillion dollars, will two trillion dollars, and I'm saying, hey,

1018
00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:10.119
no more pay increases for congressmen and senators. You can

1019
00:52:10.159 --> 00:52:14.320
get coal adjustments, but no wage increase until this gets

1020
00:52:14.360 --> 00:52:16.679
healed up. And also I want, you know, some of

1021
00:52:16.719 --> 00:52:20.559
that tariff money to go into into healing social Security.

1022
00:52:20.760 --> 00:52:24.079
All the money that FBI and CIA collect on these

1023
00:52:24.119 --> 00:52:26.760
criminal activities and stuff. You know where that money goes,

1024
00:52:28.079 --> 00:52:30.719
I don't excellently. It goes into their personal account. I

1025
00:52:30.719 --> 00:52:34.159
mean personal account into their own department account. It's just

1026
00:52:34.639 --> 00:52:37.840
it's an slush fund. Are you kidding me? You know,

1027
00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:40.840
the millions of dollars, Throw it, dedicate it. Any of

1028
00:52:40.840 --> 00:52:44.199
that money that's captured, dedicated, Put it back into Social Security,

1029
00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:46.320
get it healed again, and give the people a fair

1030
00:52:46.440 --> 00:52:49.239
chance to you know, invest and do some things that

1031
00:52:49.280 --> 00:52:51.239
are better than the way the government can do it.

1032
00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:53.960
I mean, you imagine if you look back, just just

1033
00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:55.800
in the years that you and I have been on

1034
00:52:55.800 --> 00:52:58.480
this earth, what we would do if we'd had that

1035
00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:02.039
money to invest in, you know, in a brokerage account.

1036
00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:05.360
My god, we'd we'd be gazillionaires when we wouldn't be

1037
00:53:05.400 --> 00:53:09.639
worrying about you know, Social Security going bankrupt in six years.

1038
00:53:09.960 --> 00:53:12.440
Yeah. Well I've said that before in terms of everything

1039
00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:15.639
from reparations to an end of governmental fraud. Like if

1040
00:53:15.639 --> 00:53:18.039
you gave me a million dollars once, I'd be a

1041
00:53:18.079 --> 00:53:20.960
billionaire within ten years. I mean, like there, I think

1042
00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:23.440
you probably would as well. So the amount of money

1043
00:53:23.440 --> 00:53:27.599
that we've spent on the lower end of society, let's

1044
00:53:27.599 --> 00:53:30.960
say the bottom two deathciles, the amount of money that

1045
00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:33.880
we've spent dealing with fraud for that matter, the amount

1046
00:53:33.880 --> 00:53:35.960
of money we've spent hunting down criminals that in many

1047
00:53:35.960 --> 00:53:38.159
cases could have been kept out of this country. Yeah,

1048
00:53:38.280 --> 00:53:40.599
like almost anything would be a better use of that

1049
00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:42.719
if you just gave This has always been my critique

1050
00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:45.360
of welfare. Actually, like if you just gave that amount

1051
00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:47.960
of money to citizens once a year, i e. If

1052
00:53:47.960 --> 00:53:54.039
you took the budget that we have for let's say AFDC, snap, medicaid,

1053
00:53:54.119 --> 00:53:57.360
which goes to the poor, anything else along those lines,

1054
00:53:57.960 --> 00:54:00.880
and simply divided it up among the heads of household

1055
00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:03.719
in America, you could just write everyone a thirty thousand

1056
00:54:03.760 --> 00:54:06.400
dollars check or maybe a little more, once you got

1057
00:54:06.480 --> 00:54:09.280
rid of that second level of parasitic bureaucracy.

1058
00:54:09.840 --> 00:54:10.400
Exactly.

1059
00:54:10.679 --> 00:54:13.400
There's never been any inclination to do that. And I

1060
00:54:13.519 --> 00:54:17.400
might say one quick thing, that's probably because in do

1061
00:54:17.559 --> 00:54:20.880
gooder terms, it's not possible. It's not possible because some

1062
00:54:20.960 --> 00:54:23.280
people would waste the thirty thousand and then appeal to

1063
00:54:23.320 --> 00:54:25.480
the government and say that they were starving. So the

1064
00:54:25.559 --> 00:54:27.880
question is what do you do then? Do you restore

1065
00:54:27.920 --> 00:54:31.079
the old programs? You know, many old kings would have

1066
00:54:31.119 --> 00:54:32.960
just said, well, let them work or starve, But I

1067
00:54:32.960 --> 00:54:35.320
don't think we are still at that point where that's

1068
00:54:35.320 --> 00:54:35.880
going to happen.

1069
00:54:36.320 --> 00:54:39.360
Now, You're exactly right, because you know, the thing is

1070
00:54:39.360 --> 00:54:43.239
is we have unfortunately, we've conditioned people to be comfortable

1071
00:54:44.199 --> 00:54:48.519
and we don't want to see particularly citizens. But yet

1072
00:54:48.679 --> 00:54:51.000
look what we've got right now in homelessness. I mean,

1073
00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:55.840
I'm here in LA will seventy thousand homeless people in

1074
00:54:56.079 --> 00:54:59.119
LA It's heartbreaking, you know, and you're not even talking

1075
00:54:59.119 --> 00:55:02.239
about the people that you're drug addled, mental issues and

1076
00:55:02.280 --> 00:55:06.079
everything else. I mean everywhere you go, it's like LA

1077
00:55:06.199 --> 00:55:09.440
is becoming one big no go zone because it's a

1078
00:55:09.480 --> 00:55:12.679
safety hazard. You've got to keep your head on a

1079
00:55:12.760 --> 00:55:15.480
swivel because you don't know who's going to come, you know,

1080
00:55:15.639 --> 00:55:17.760
from you from a different angle. And you think, man,

1081
00:55:17.800 --> 00:55:20.119
I'm walking streets I grew up in and now I

1082
00:55:20.199 --> 00:55:21.000
gotta be careful.

1083
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:26.480
Yeah, I mean that's absolutely ridiculous. I Mean even Louisville

1084
00:55:26.519 --> 00:55:29.480
has a homeless population that sometimes estimated it up to

1085
00:55:29.559 --> 00:55:31.840
ten thousand. I mean that that itself is a city.

1086
00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:34.119
When you talk about there's seventy thousand people that are

1087
00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:37.199
bums living outdoors. I mean, like the fourth largest city

1088
00:55:37.239 --> 00:55:39.960
in Kentucky only has eighty thousand people, So I mean,

1089
00:55:39.960 --> 00:55:42.880
that's a ridiculous community. Now no, I know LA has

1090
00:55:42.920 --> 00:55:44.960
three or four million people, but that's still that would

1091
00:55:44.960 --> 00:55:47.639
mean what two percent of the entire population is living

1092
00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:51.800
outside in tents. You absolutely can't have that. And a

1093
00:55:51.880 --> 00:55:54.719
big part of this is the expansion of the idea

1094
00:55:54.840 --> 00:55:57.480
of rights. So, I mean, we've always said you have

1095
00:55:57.519 --> 00:55:59.559
a right to worship God as you see fit to

1096
00:55:59.679 --> 00:56:02.039
arm your but nobody ever said you have a right

1097
00:56:02.119 --> 00:56:04.719
to live outside a barbecue a dog in front of

1098
00:56:04.760 --> 00:56:08.519
your your hobo camp. And we gradually over time have

1099
00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:12.440
expanded things to the point where you arguably, do you know,

1100
00:56:12.519 --> 00:56:16.119
the police shouldn't search your residence even if it's a

1101
00:56:16.199 --> 00:56:19.719
box outdoors for example, as an actual legal ruling. So

1102
00:56:19.960 --> 00:56:22.800
I mean this gets back to kind of the theme

1103
00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:24.920
of today's episode, which is that we're gonna have to

1104
00:56:24.960 --> 00:56:28.800
make actual major changes to deal with these problems. Like

1105
00:56:28.880 --> 00:56:33.519
the solution to homelessness is non voluntary incarceration. You enforce

1106
00:56:33.559 --> 00:56:36.079
the vagrancy laws three times and then you throw someone

1107
00:56:36.079 --> 00:56:38.159
in jail if they're saying, or an asylum if they're not.

1108
00:56:38.920 --> 00:56:41.920
And the reason people are reluctant to do that is

1109
00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:44.239
the way the homeless have been even we're both saying

1110
00:56:44.280 --> 00:56:47.400
homeless instead of hobo bum people say on housed and

1111
00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:50.920
see on the right as well. The way that these

1112
00:56:50.960 --> 00:56:56.000
people have been campaigned for for decades makes everyone at

1113
00:56:56.119 --> 00:57:00.239
least somewhat sympathetic by nineteen seventy standards, with days in

1114
00:57:00.280 --> 00:57:02.239
a neighborhood just want to chased everybody out.

1115
00:57:02.679 --> 00:57:04.519
But when it goes back to your earlier point, it

1116
00:57:04.679 --> 00:57:09.880
promotes the existence of that bureaucratic class, just like just

1117
00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:12.679
like what the Southern Poverty Law Center proved to us

1118
00:57:12.760 --> 00:57:13.199
last week.

1119
00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:17.199
Right, yeah, no, that's exactly right. Like the people will

1120
00:57:17.239 --> 00:57:20.079
often use the term homeless industrial complex when they discussed

1121
00:57:20.119 --> 00:57:21.800
the homeless, And I do want to make one two

1122
00:57:21.800 --> 00:57:25.239
points about the homeless. One, that group definitely does exist.

1123
00:57:25.840 --> 00:57:28.039
A lot of what we feel we know about everything

1124
00:57:28.079 --> 00:57:31.559
from the gay community to homeless people comes from organized

1125
00:57:31.760 --> 00:57:36.880
self pointed spokesman for those communities. So the idea is

1126
00:57:36.920 --> 00:57:40.559
like gay marriage is exactly like straight marriage, except you've

1127
00:57:40.559 --> 00:57:43.719
got two males. I'm not sure looking at data on

1128
00:57:43.840 --> 00:57:47.000
rates of relationship openness and so on, that that's accurate.

1129
00:57:47.400 --> 00:57:50.559
The homeless are probably the most extreme example of this.

1130
00:57:50.639 --> 00:57:54.480
Because the presentation is like you yourself are only five

1131
00:57:54.559 --> 00:57:57.480
paychecks or whatever it is from homelessness, which might be true,

1132
00:57:57.480 --> 00:57:58.920
like I live in a nice place. If I didn't

1133
00:57:58.920 --> 00:58:02.559
work for five months, say okay, But the catch with

1134
00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:05.679
that is that nobody's just not going to work for

1135
00:58:05.719 --> 00:58:08.760
five months and then not take out alone and then

1136
00:58:08.840 --> 00:58:11.679
not be able to rely on your girls, family, your friends,

1137
00:58:11.679 --> 00:58:14.239
from your old areas. So like, in fact, it's very

1138
00:58:14.360 --> 00:58:17.039
unlikely then I would find myself homeless. I'd have to

1139
00:58:17.079 --> 00:58:19.360
lose two or three hundred thousand dollars in a row

1140
00:58:19.400 --> 00:58:21.800
and do nothing the whole time that happened, Like no

1141
00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:24.760
book royalties coming in. I'm not giving speeches. I refuse

1142
00:58:24.840 --> 00:58:28.559
blue collar work. So the homeless in practice, wait, I

1143
00:58:28.599 --> 00:58:30.119
wouldn't like to be out there with a shovel at

1144
00:58:30.119 --> 00:58:32.039
this fate, but I still not do it. You know,

1145
00:58:32.119 --> 00:58:35.119
the homeless in practice tend to be people who have

1146
00:58:35.320 --> 00:58:40.320
very serious issues that prevent that. They're chronic addictive drug users,

1147
00:58:41.239 --> 00:58:46.480
they're badly mentally ill. If you go out to La,

1148
00:58:46.360 --> 00:58:49.159
everyone you see that's going to be in those tent

1149
00:58:49.239 --> 00:58:52.280
camp areas or for that matter, on skid row, ninety

1150
00:58:52.280 --> 00:58:54.119
percent of those people are going to be visibly hot,

1151
00:58:54.599 --> 00:58:58.320
like they're gonna be serious problems that you notice. As

1152
00:58:58.360 --> 00:59:05.559
a thirty second anecdote. I was in US season La, right, yes, correct, right, yeah, Okay.

1153
00:59:05.599 --> 00:59:07.760
I give a speech at USC and I was in

1154
00:59:07.960 --> 00:59:09.920
LA and I just noticed a guy walking down the

1155
00:59:09.960 --> 00:59:12.320
street with a baseball bat. I promise you this is true,

1156
00:59:12.320 --> 00:59:15.280
breaking the windows out of cars, and myself and another

1157
00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:17.400
guy who was visibly a tourist. He's wearing a shirt

1158
00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:19.519
that said like Tulsa whatever, their Triple A team is

1159
00:59:19.880 --> 00:59:21.440
well cross the street and we're like, buddy, you got

1160
00:59:21.519 --> 00:59:24.119
to stop this. What are you doing? And the guys

1161
00:59:24.119 --> 00:59:26.639
stopped it, but people were looking at us like we

1162
00:59:26.639 --> 00:59:31.599
were insane, like we had threatened the local wildlife in

1163
00:59:31.639 --> 00:59:35.239
a park or something. And I mean people were angry,

1164
00:59:35.320 --> 00:59:37.079
and it was the wildest thing I've ever seen. I

1165
00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:40.119
guarantee this is a true story. But that guy and

1166
00:59:40.920 --> 00:59:46.519
like racially indistinguishable, long haired male and kind of effeminate

1167
00:59:46.599 --> 00:59:48.920
clothes with a weapon in his hand like that, to

1168
00:59:48.960 --> 00:59:52.559
me is kind of a symbol of modern American urban living.

1169
00:59:52.800 --> 00:59:56.679
And it's gonna take removing that guy before you get

1170
00:59:56.719 --> 00:59:59.599
young families downtown and all the other things that Chicago

1171
00:59:59.639 --> 01:00:02.519
and LA in San Francisco keep complaining about the skid

1172
01:00:02.599 --> 01:00:04.679
row in San Francisco's in their business district.

1173
01:00:05.239 --> 01:00:07.559
What a what a story. That's great. And all you

1174
01:00:07.599 --> 01:00:09.320
did is go, hey, you got to stop that, and

1175
01:00:09.320 --> 01:00:10.000
he stops.

1176
01:00:10.679 --> 01:00:13.039
You know, we were bracing the guy, like we were

1177
01:00:13.079 --> 01:00:15.119
confronting the guy and like you're standing three feet away

1178
01:00:15.159 --> 01:00:16.920
because he's got a weapon. But like it's it was

1179
01:00:17.000 --> 01:00:18.719
just how you would It was how I would react

1180
01:00:18.719 --> 01:00:22.039
to someone in Lexington, Kentucky that had an AX and

1181
01:00:22.239 --> 01:00:25.239
was just attacking people's trucks, like you gotta I mean,

1182
01:00:25.280 --> 01:00:26.760
you might have a weaponar you got to just tell

1183
01:00:26.800 --> 01:00:29.920
the guy to discontinue this behavior. And it was just

1184
01:00:30.039 --> 01:00:32.519
it seemed to totally shock people. It was something they

1185
01:00:32.519 --> 01:00:35.960
hadn't seen from like the violent hinter lands. These maga

1186
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jackasses are attacking a guy who just forgot to take

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his meds or whatever. The description was. So that that

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I think is that's metaphorical. What is a sind a

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coach is an even fancier term that is a representative

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interrero and like a small bottle of something that's that's

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much larger, and I think it's important to keep that

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in mind.

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Yeah, good, good point. He's a professor of political science

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at Kentucky State University of the author of Taboo Ten

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Facts you can talk about in Li's my liberal teacher

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taught me, Doctor Wilford Riley, thank you well, take care

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nine oh three five eight. That's eight hundred six nine

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Bill Martinez live.

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Hey right now, six minutes after the top. They are

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Bill Martinez here with Scott Powell.

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From the Discovery Institute.

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Hey, mister Scott, how are we doing well? I'm doing

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01:02:32.559 --> 01:02:33.360
really well this week.

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01:02:34.039 --> 01:02:34.840
Yeah, it is terrific.

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I mean a lot of things going on, positively, some

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01:02:37.280 --> 01:02:42.360
great decisions, great decisions you know from Scovis to get

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01:02:42.440 --> 01:02:44.880
us down the road, and I think it's a time

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for America to celebrate it. It just reaffirmed that America

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01:02:48.519 --> 01:02:52.320
is no longer a racist nation. Uh and clear added

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01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:56.800
evidence of that was the revelation of the SBLC Southern

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01:02:56.800 --> 01:03:00.840
Poverty Law Center and their Shenan against trying to contrive

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and lead us to believe that, you know that we're

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still racist, you know, and still to this day. I mean,

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01:03:08.039 --> 01:03:10.320
I got to tell you, Scott, you know, America has

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01:03:10.320 --> 01:03:12.519
come a long way. You know, we're on the verge

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01:03:12.519 --> 01:03:15.960
of celebrating our two hundred and fiftieth anniversary with that

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01:03:16.400 --> 01:03:19.719
goal that our founding fathers had in terms of moving

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01:03:19.760 --> 01:03:23.079
to a more perfect union, and not that we would

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01:03:23.079 --> 01:03:27.519
ever be, but aspirationally it gives us something to shoot for.

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01:03:28.119 --> 01:03:31.400
And you know, we've made our mistakes, but we've made

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01:03:31.440 --> 01:03:34.440
some good decisions. And I think that this current decision

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01:03:34.480 --> 01:03:39.440
from the Supreme Court affirms that America is you know,

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01:03:39.599 --> 01:03:43.239
is alive and well not perfect, but we are moving

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01:03:43.320 --> 01:03:47.159
toward that aspirational goal of being a more perfect union.

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01:03:47.199 --> 01:03:50.800
What do you think, Well, I fully agree, you know,

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01:03:50.880 --> 01:03:55.280
the process of redemption for individuals as well as nations,

1249
01:03:55.920 --> 01:04:00.800
it can be a long and twisted in our joy road.

1250
01:04:01.639 --> 01:04:04.639
And certainly when we reflect on our history as a nation,

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01:04:05.639 --> 01:04:11.440
you know, we our birth was absolutely extraordinary, that's and

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01:04:11.760 --> 01:04:13.960
but we had to go through a lot of different things,

1253
01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:16.039
some of which we didn't ask for. We didn't ask

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01:04:16.199 --> 01:04:20.480
for slave traders to visit Jamestown. And uh, you know,

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01:04:20.599 --> 01:04:24.679
in sixteen oh nine, uh or I can't remember if

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01:04:24.679 --> 01:04:28.079
that was the exact date the year, but you know,

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01:04:28.159 --> 01:04:32.880
they introduced you know, black labor as indentured servits. I

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01:04:32.960 --> 01:04:35.800
might add they were sold as slaves, they were indentured

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01:04:35.840 --> 01:04:39.840
service servants. But from that grew a you know, uh,

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01:04:40.639 --> 01:04:44.039
you know, more more trade of that kind, and ultimately,

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01:04:44.159 --> 01:04:48.519
the the Southern economy very much depended upon cheap labor

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01:04:48.519 --> 01:04:51.840
because it was you know, it was it was you know,

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01:04:52.000 --> 01:04:54.639
vast plantations that required a lot of labor.

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01:04:54.719 --> 01:04:57.599
Anyway, well, and in fact it infected our economic model,

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01:04:57.920 --> 01:05:00.079
you know, to your point here and and I one

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01:05:00.159 --> 01:05:02.920
thing that people really saw it coming in. It's just like, okay,

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01:05:02.960 --> 01:05:04.960
we got a new nation, we've got to make money,

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01:05:04.960 --> 01:05:07.239
we've got to support ourselves, the whole deal, and this

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01:05:07.280 --> 01:05:11.079
comes into play. And maybe there were some commentary back

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01:05:11.079 --> 01:05:13.400
then going, wait a minute, you know, we might be

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01:05:13.519 --> 01:05:15.679
opening up a can of worms here right.

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01:05:16.159 --> 01:05:19.320
Well, certainly the South, if you had to compare the two,

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01:05:19.800 --> 01:05:22.280
you know, the two parts of our country, the North

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01:05:22.320 --> 01:05:25.960
and the South. The South had a stronger Christian tradition

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01:05:26.719 --> 01:05:27.920
amongst the people.

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01:05:27.679 --> 01:05:28.599
Than the North did.

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01:05:29.519 --> 01:05:31.960
So there were a lot of people that were morally

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01:05:32.280 --> 01:05:38.000
uncomfortable with slavery. That's absolutely true. And in fact, you know,

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01:05:38.360 --> 01:05:43.159
only five percent of the people in the South had slaves.

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01:05:44.199 --> 01:05:46.360
But anyway, let's let's move on to something else. But

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01:05:46.440 --> 01:05:48.920
that's that's the big blemish on our history, and that

1282
01:05:48.960 --> 01:05:52.239
it seems to always be the you know, the bat

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01:05:52.360 --> 01:05:54.880
that the that the critics of America and really the

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01:05:54.920 --> 01:05:58.199
America haters. It's not just critics right. You and I

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01:05:58.280 --> 01:06:01.760
both recognize that we get better through criticism, and so

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01:06:01.800 --> 01:06:04.480
it's not wrong to criticize our nation. But we have

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01:06:04.559 --> 01:06:07.599
a whole cadre of people living within the United States

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01:06:07.599 --> 01:06:08.760
who hate our country.

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01:06:09.159 --> 01:06:09.320
Right.

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01:06:09.440 --> 01:06:11.880
They hate our country because they don't understand our country,

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01:06:12.280 --> 01:06:14.360
and they may not understand a lot of things they

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01:06:16.000 --> 01:06:19.599
but they make you know, they make governing more difficult.

1293
01:06:20.239 --> 01:06:23.079
Right, well, of course, because we're not on the same page.

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01:06:23.119 --> 01:06:26.400
And you know, this is about the United States of America,

1295
01:06:26.480 --> 01:06:31.360
not the Ununited States. But clearly this is the dynamic

1296
01:06:31.400 --> 01:06:34.679
that's taking place. But I see this victory, this decision

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01:06:34.760 --> 01:06:39.800
by Scotus here, you know, regarding the Louisiana Voting Rights Act,

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01:06:40.239 --> 01:06:43.400
and as a time to celebrate. I think this is

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01:06:43.480 --> 01:06:47.679
one of these benchmark celebrations that America should be coming

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01:06:47.719 --> 01:06:51.599
out and saying Usa, Usa, USA. It's just to me

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01:06:51.679 --> 01:06:56.440
is a huge victory and an affirmation that America is

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01:06:56.519 --> 01:06:58.000
not systemically racist.

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01:06:58.719 --> 01:07:00.480
Oh no, we're not systemically racist.

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01:07:00.559 --> 01:07:01.159
My goodness.

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01:07:01.639 --> 01:07:05.639
If you've traveled the world, you would one of the

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01:07:05.639 --> 01:07:08.559
things you'd recognize rather quickly is that the United States

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01:07:08.599 --> 01:07:14.199
is much more advanced in attitudes towards race than almost

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01:07:14.199 --> 01:07:14.840
any other nation.

1309
01:07:15.320 --> 01:07:17.559
Yeah, but the grifters would want us to believe differently,

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01:07:17.679 --> 01:07:20.199
like the SPLC and others you know that have made

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01:07:20.239 --> 01:07:23.000
a living over the decades off of this, And so

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01:07:23.119 --> 01:07:26.320
now what are they going to do? Scott? But I digress.

1313
01:07:26.440 --> 01:07:28.880
Let's you know, the whole point of this is that

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01:07:29.639 --> 01:07:32.960
there's so much to celebrate as we go back and

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01:07:33.119 --> 01:07:36.559
remember two hundred and fifty years of this nation good, bad, ugly.

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01:07:37.239 --> 01:07:39.800
But here we are today. And you know, and I

1317
01:07:39.840 --> 01:07:41.840
was talking with a group of other people here recently

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01:07:41.840 --> 01:07:44.159
Scott to say, you know, we could have been born anywhere.

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01:07:44.159 --> 01:07:45.920
We could have been born in Iran, we could have

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01:07:45.920 --> 01:07:48.360
been is you know, but God chose us to be

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01:07:48.440 --> 01:07:51.679
born here in America for you know, as as the

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01:07:51.719 --> 01:07:56.400
saying says, for a time such as this. And we're

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01:07:56.480 --> 01:08:01.239
so blessed to be in this country, given all that

1324
01:08:01.320 --> 01:08:05.400
we have, the independence, the freedoms in that. But you know,

1325
01:08:05.639 --> 01:08:09.480
as Ronald Reagan reminded us, you know, it can slip

1326
01:08:09.559 --> 01:08:11.679
through our fingers in a matter of a generation.

1327
01:08:12.760 --> 01:08:16.439
Oh, absolutely absolutely. And we were very close, you know,

1328
01:08:16.640 --> 01:08:21.399
prior to the re election the second term of Donald Trump,

1329
01:08:22.199 --> 01:08:25.239
we were pretty close to losing America. I really feel that.

1330
01:08:26.119 --> 01:08:28.880
So I agree becausehen you look at the Shenanigans that

1331
01:08:28.960 --> 01:08:32.720
were taking place, particularly under the Obama administration, and then

1332
01:08:32.760 --> 01:08:36.600
carried forward under Biden. Biden and his minions. I mean,

1333
01:08:36.680 --> 01:08:42.800
you know, Joe Biden was questionably I guess, missing in

1334
01:08:42.920 --> 01:08:47.680
action in many ways, and people took advantage. But still

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01:08:47.720 --> 01:08:49.560
he was the President of the United States. And as

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01:08:49.600 --> 01:08:51.800
they say, you know, the buck stops with the President

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01:08:51.840 --> 01:08:53.079
of the United States, like it or not.

1338
01:08:53.680 --> 01:08:58.279
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think what what Americans need? You know,

1339
01:08:58.279 --> 01:09:00.960
we have a great holiday called thanks and that's a

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01:09:01.039 --> 01:09:05.000
day where we actually probably come pretty close to to

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01:09:07.399 --> 01:09:12.039
devoting a day, you know, to reflecting on the very

1342
01:09:12.079 --> 01:09:14.920
beginning of our country. The Pilgrims arrived in Plymouth, they

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01:09:14.920 --> 01:09:18.760
didn't know, they were ill equipped to deal with what

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01:09:18.880 --> 01:09:23.199
they found there. But fortunately, with God's providence, they had

1345
01:09:23.279 --> 01:09:25.840
you know, they were friendly Indians living in the neighborhood,

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01:09:25.880 --> 01:09:29.279
and the Indians helped them, and so it was that

1347
01:09:29.399 --> 01:09:33.239
they could celebrate a first Thanksgiving. Meager though the harvest was.

1348
01:09:33.920 --> 01:09:37.560
But really, when you think of America from the bigger perspective,

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01:09:38.279 --> 01:09:42.640
the historical perspective, we are the first nation in all

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01:09:42.720 --> 01:09:49.000
of human history that basically put the locusts of power

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01:09:49.760 --> 01:09:54.680
and authority in the people and recognizing that the people

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01:09:54.720 --> 01:10:00.079
had God given unalienable rights. Some people call them natural rights,

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01:10:00.119 --> 01:10:03.239
but in any case, it was only America that that

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01:10:03.439 --> 01:10:05.960
was founded with this understanding, and of course that came

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01:10:06.039 --> 01:10:09.239
long after the Mayflower and the Pilgrims, that came, you know,

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01:10:09.479 --> 01:10:12.079
the Declaration of Independence, which we were celebrating the two

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01:10:12.159 --> 01:10:16.199
hundred and fiftieth anniversary of on July fourth this year. Amazing,

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01:10:17.880 --> 01:10:21.760
but this was this, this was unknown anywhere in the

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01:10:21.800 --> 01:10:25.720
world before right that the people had rights and it

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01:10:25.800 --> 01:10:29.159
was the job of the government to protect those rights.

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01:10:29.239 --> 01:10:32.600
And the most important rights were of course freedom of speeds,

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01:10:32.680 --> 01:10:38.880
freedom of religion, freedom of assembly, freedom to protest, and

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01:10:39.239 --> 01:10:41.800
then we had other rights articulated in the Pill of rights.

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I mean, the self defense is a is a natural,

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01:10:44.880 --> 01:10:47.239
God given right. And of course you know when you

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01:10:47.359 --> 01:10:49.600
when you know, when technology takes you to a new

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01:10:49.720 --> 01:10:53.520
level of having gunpowder, then you know that you got

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01:10:53.600 --> 01:10:55.439
you got to give the right of the people to

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01:10:55.479 --> 01:10:57.560
defend themselves with firearms.

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Exactly right, because that's with responsibility, no doubt. Yes, oh yes, yeah, yeah,

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01:11:03.159 --> 01:11:03.760
exactly what.

1372
01:11:03.800 --> 01:11:06.279
All these rights are known in America, they're not known

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01:11:06.319 --> 01:11:10.520
in most other nations. Yeah, but we had our you know,

1374
01:11:10.760 --> 01:11:14.039
we had the starting point of our country, the founding

1375
01:11:14.079 --> 01:11:17.000
of our country, on these very rights.

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01:11:17.359 --> 01:11:20.000
Okay, what let's let's hit pause. We'll go to quick

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break and we'll pick it up on the other side.

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Hey, we're back with you. Bill Martinez here with Scott

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Palell to senior fellow at the Discovery in his book

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Rediscovering America. Get your hands on if you don't have

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it already, shared it with your family. It will remind

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you again of the things that we're talking about right now.

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There's so much about this two hundred and fifty years.

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The Wolf and Wharf is so rich God and through

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it all we see the hand of God and God's

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blessings upon this country, which you know, our rise to

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superpower status was was you know, I guess in a

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lot of ways you could say was unprecedented. There's been

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other empires as well, but in the modern era. I mean,

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01:16:38.720 --> 01:16:41.479
what other nation has there been like americaan And like

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01:16:41.520 --> 01:16:45.439
you said, the unique situation was that you had the

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founding fathers who realized, they said, we're going to unleash

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the cumulative power of the individual and empower them to

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be in charge. And look what happened. I mean, this

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01:17:00.479 --> 01:17:04.680
nation exploded, and I mean you look in the first

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01:17:04.840 --> 01:17:09.239
hundred years of its livelihood, you know what we experienced.

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01:17:09.279 --> 01:17:12.920
And then also the antithical forces to say, how dare

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you disrupt you know, our model that says there must

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be a king, raz are some potentate and all of

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a sudden, you're going to put the power in the

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hands of the people. That is foreboden, you know, right, yes,

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And part of the wisdom of the founders And a

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lot of people underappreciate this, but it is very, very

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unique in that the founders, being Christians, recognized what we

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could just simply say is the depraved nature of man.

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That man is, that man is born with sin, that

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he has a tendency to abuse.

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Power.

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He doesn't always act in a virtuous way, because that's

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that's been the history of mankind. And they recognized this.

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01:17:56.319 --> 01:17:59.079
So when they said about a government. This was one

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of the you know, one of the leading things that

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they had to deal with, Well, how are we going

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to create a government that doesn't get corrupted by the

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people that are running it?

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Right? And so yeah, because that's a natural inclination. Hence

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where we are today.

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By the way, every other government in history always had

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declined because of corruption, because of abusive power. So our

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01:18:23.119 --> 01:18:27.079
founders were very serious about this matter, and they created

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a system at the Constitutional Convention that divided power three ways.

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There was the executive, there's the judiciary, in the legislative.

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01:18:36.319 --> 01:18:39.479
And then they said, well, how are we going to

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distribute power in this nation of thirteen states? And some

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are really small and some are really big. And there

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was almost a breakdown of the Constitutional Convention because of

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this conflict between big states and small states. Big states said, hey,

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01:18:54.479 --> 01:18:56.399
we need more power because we have more people. The

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01:18:56.439 --> 01:18:59.520
small states said, yeah, but you're going to snuff out

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01:18:59.520 --> 01:19:02.840
our right, you know, we'll be marginalized. We need you know,

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01:19:02.880 --> 01:19:06.520
we need each equal stature exactly. So out of the

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wisdom of one of the greats of the Constitutional creation

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that was Roger Sherman, probably the most devout Christian in

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the convention. He came from Connecticut. He came up with

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a great compromise, and that was that the upper House

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there would be equal representation. Every state would have two senators.

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And in the lower House, which is very important because

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the lower house is where they designed all of the

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01:19:31.079 --> 01:19:34.640
spending of government to originate, the lower house would have

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representation by population. So this compromise was quite remarkable. We

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01:19:40.600 --> 01:19:42.960
take it for granted. I mean, we see it is

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01:19:42.960 --> 01:19:46.760
the obvious solution, but back then they didn't see it.

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01:19:47.279 --> 01:19:49.840
Well, there was no other model that they could build from.

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01:19:49.920 --> 01:19:53.159
They're doing this from a you know, a plain sheet

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01:19:53.199 --> 01:19:55.760
of paper. Hey let's start a government. Let's all get

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01:19:55.760 --> 01:19:59.359
it together and let's create this new government out of

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01:19:59.399 --> 01:20:00.800
whole claw Scott.

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01:20:00.680 --> 01:20:05.399
I know. And then the third layer of protection is

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01:20:05.439 --> 01:20:09.000
that they really structured a system with you know, quick

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01:20:09.119 --> 01:20:13.079
turnover of elected officials. So if there were Charlottan's or

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01:20:13.159 --> 01:20:16.399
crooks that made their way into political power, you could

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01:20:16.399 --> 01:20:18.600
turn them out of office at least in the legislature,

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01:20:18.840 --> 01:20:21.520
you know, every two years. Right, so the people that

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01:20:21.600 --> 01:20:25.399
originate much of our laws, especially spending laws. Hey, you

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01:20:25.439 --> 01:20:27.520
could clean house every two years if you didn't like

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01:20:27.560 --> 01:20:30.680
what they were doing right. But unfortunately, of course the

1551
01:20:30.960 --> 01:20:34.359
founders didn't recognize the technology and the ways of man

1552
01:20:34.399 --> 01:20:36.960
would even corrupt that system.

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01:20:37.600 --> 01:20:41.520
Like ballot ballot box stuffing. And well yeah, but also

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01:20:41.640 --> 01:20:44.319
this permanent class in the Congress.

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01:20:44.720 --> 01:20:48.680
You know that people don't turn the corrupt people out

1556
01:20:48.720 --> 01:20:52.159
of office, partially because they refuse to believe it. And

1557
01:20:52.399 --> 01:20:56.319
and another part is that they're on the take. The

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01:20:56.359 --> 01:20:59.760
people end up getting benefited. They receive the benefits of

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01:20:59.800 --> 01:21:01.199
their corrupt representative.

1560
01:21:01.760 --> 01:21:04.760
Exactly. I'm sorry to say, well, that's why we're thirty

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01:21:04.840 --> 01:21:07.359
nine trillion dollars in debt. Oh, by the way, Scott today,

1562
01:21:07.399 --> 01:21:12.000
but you know, another story.

1563
01:21:12.039 --> 01:21:16.439
But the idea still stands. I mean, this unique system.

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And so I would say to all the audience that

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be grateful and express your gratitude by talking among the

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people you know, your family, all your friends, you know,

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to really get engaged in the future of America. This

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01:21:35.159 --> 01:21:38.920
two hundred and fiftieth celebration of our heritage is really

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01:21:39.479 --> 01:21:42.800
I call it the beginning, the real beginning of America,

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01:21:43.199 --> 01:21:48.039
the return, the restoration, the rediscovery. And that's why I

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01:21:48.079 --> 01:21:51.680
wrote the book Rediscovering America, which, by the way, remarkably.

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01:21:51.880 --> 01:21:55.680
I just checked it out. It's rating on Amazon. It's

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01:21:55.680 --> 01:21:58.520
a history book, so they never really become best sellers,

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but it is in the top one hundred of all

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history books ever tracked.

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Wow, Wow, congratulations, that's awesome.

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Numbers in others. And it's more relevant today than it

1578
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was when I wrote it four years ago, so it's timeless.

1579
01:22:15.399 --> 01:22:18.159
So it's a great book, and it's short, it's easy

1580
01:22:18.199 --> 01:22:20.840
to read. I mean, I've designed it for busy people.

1581
01:22:21.359 --> 01:22:26.920
So anyway, this you know, the time in which we

1582
01:22:27.079 --> 01:22:30.880
were living. As we celebrate the two hundred and fiftieth

1583
01:22:31.079 --> 01:22:33.800
we have to think, well, what are the next two

1584
01:22:33.880 --> 01:22:35.640
hundred and fifty years going to look like? And we

1585
01:22:35.680 --> 01:22:39.319
can't know about technology? Who could have who could have

1586
01:22:39.359 --> 01:22:43.920
predicted AI even five years ago? Yes, right, but it's

1587
01:22:43.960 --> 01:22:47.159
fundamentally changing our society and we need to be prayerful

1588
01:22:47.159 --> 01:22:49.680
about those changes. Let me tell you there's these great

1589
01:22:49.760 --> 01:22:51.920
risks with AI as well as benefits.

1590
01:22:52.520 --> 01:22:55.319
Right, well, we have we have gone through a lot

1591
01:22:55.319 --> 01:22:57.359
of discovery in two hundred and fifty years. I mean,

1592
01:22:57.479 --> 01:23:00.279
you look back and you see what's happened. You know,

1593
01:23:00.359 --> 01:23:02.960
we weren't even supposed to make it through the millennium. Remember,

1594
01:23:03.039 --> 01:23:05.560
our computers were going to explode on us and all

1595
01:23:05.560 --> 01:23:08.960
the other stuff going on. But look at we are.

1596
01:23:09.680 --> 01:23:15.479
We're humanoids, miracle walking miracles created by God that he

1597
01:23:15.600 --> 01:23:18.399
himself on the final Day said, and he looked over

1598
01:23:18.439 --> 01:23:21.279
his creation, said wow, this is very good. I mean,

1599
01:23:21.399 --> 01:23:24.840
you know, God himself declared us as being very good.

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01:23:25.319 --> 01:23:30.119
So we have that capacity within us. God's given to

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01:23:30.199 --> 01:23:33.960
be very good. And regardless of the innovation of things,

1602
01:23:34.079 --> 01:23:37.279
I have faith and hope in God. Number one and

1603
01:23:37.359 --> 01:23:40.079
number two is creation. That we will rise to the

1604
01:23:40.159 --> 01:23:43.439
challenge as we've continued to do so, God willing and

1605
01:23:43.479 --> 01:23:46.640
by his grace and mercy. But that as we do that,

1606
01:23:46.800 --> 01:23:49.760
we would do that focused on that which is good

1607
01:23:49.800 --> 01:23:53.279
for all, that is honoring to God and honoring to

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01:23:53.319 --> 01:23:57.159
his creation. If we do that, then you know, for

1609
01:23:57.199 --> 01:24:00.840
as long as we're supposed to, the preservation of humanity

1610
01:24:01.159 --> 01:24:04.960
will continue and flourish. And I know that some people

1611
01:24:05.000 --> 01:24:07.600
are and you look at the signs and you say, okay,

1612
01:24:08.039 --> 01:24:10.039
I mean even Billy Graham said we're in the last

1613
01:24:10.079 --> 01:24:12.239
of the last days, and you know he passed away,

1614
01:24:12.880 --> 01:24:15.159
you know how many years ago now, Scott, it's kind

1615
01:24:15.159 --> 01:24:16.960
of hard to think that it's been been a while,

1616
01:24:17.039 --> 01:24:19.199
but you know, and here we are, and we see

1617
01:24:19.199 --> 01:24:21.119
all the signs that are happening in the Middle East

1618
01:24:21.199 --> 01:24:25.840
and all these birth pangs, birth pangs to a new

1619
01:24:25.920 --> 01:24:28.439
and better creation that God has promised for us.

1620
01:24:28.520 --> 01:24:31.840
Right, that's right, that's absolutely right, Bill. And you know,

1621
01:24:32.000 --> 01:24:34.920
I think that all people want to be happy. I mean,

1622
01:24:35.239 --> 01:24:37.439
you can say, if there's one statement you can make

1623
01:24:37.439 --> 01:24:41.359
about human beings is that they want to be you know,

1624
01:24:41.840 --> 01:24:43.840
they want to be at peace, They want happiness in

1625
01:24:43.880 --> 01:24:46.720
their lives. And so really, what we have in our

1626
01:24:46.840 --> 01:24:51.439
in our country is a user's manual to arrive at happiness.

1627
01:24:51.560 --> 01:24:54.000
In terms of governance, you know, we have this amazing

1628
01:24:54.039 --> 01:24:58.920
constitution that gives us freedom. And you know, but we

1629
01:24:59.000 --> 01:25:01.720
ourselves and our p personal lives have got to take

1630
01:25:02.319 --> 01:25:05.399
the user's manual seriously. And that's that's the Bible, that's

1631
01:25:05.399 --> 01:25:08.640
the scripture, right, and we when we live within the

1632
01:25:08.680 --> 01:25:12.359
boundaries that God creates for us, we have absolute freedom

1633
01:25:12.720 --> 01:25:16.159
to pursue almost everything. We don't have the rights to

1634
01:25:16.239 --> 01:25:20.520
abuse people, to hurt people, you know, but rather we

1635
01:25:20.680 --> 01:25:25.840
but we are fully free agents to realize to fulfill

1636
01:25:25.880 --> 01:25:31.520
our dreams and pursue things. Changing careers mid stream are

1637
01:25:31.600 --> 01:25:35.279
several times in your lifetime, exactly. And we have to

1638
01:25:35.279 --> 01:25:37.640
take that attitude towards our government that we need to

1639
01:25:37.640 --> 01:25:41.239
hold them accountable. And those people, those governing people that

1640
01:25:41.359 --> 01:25:45.239
are not you know, living up to what they to

1641
01:25:45.640 --> 01:25:48.199
their job, we need to vote and vote them out.

1642
01:25:48.279 --> 01:25:50.840
We need to exactly, we need to vote for good

1643
01:25:50.920 --> 01:25:53.279
people that can lead us into.

1644
01:25:53.159 --> 01:25:56.720
The future that will ensure you know, another two hundred

1645
01:25:56.720 --> 01:25:58.920
and fifty years, God willing, if that be the gaze

1646
01:25:59.399 --> 01:26:02.279
of this great American experiment. We got to leave it there.

1647
01:26:02.279 --> 01:26:05.640
Scott Pala, Senior Fellow Discovery Institute. Again, his timeless book

1648
01:26:05.960 --> 01:26:08.439
Rediscovering America is still available. You need to get your

1649
01:26:08.479 --> 01:26:11.680
hands on it. It will bless you richly. Scott is always

1650
01:26:12.239 --> 01:26:13.960
thank you so much for being with us. Appreciate it,

1651
01:26:14.000 --> 01:26:15.359
God bless thank you. Bill.

1652
01:26:16.399 --> 01:26:20.199
Everything is expensive right now, gas, food, you name it.

1653
01:26:20.399 --> 01:26:24.000
You're spending more, you are making the same or less money.

1654
01:26:24.359 --> 01:26:25.319
So what do you do?

1655
01:26:25.800 --> 01:26:28.039
You rack up credit card debt, That's what you do.

1656
01:26:28.479 --> 01:26:31.880
It's not your fault, it's the economy. And guess what

1657
01:26:32.439 --> 01:26:34.600
if you rack up too much credit card debt like

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While we're back with you're glad you could join us?

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Bill Martinez year, We've got Danahilly going to be join

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us in just a moment. Talking about you know, solo Americans.

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Of course here would be saying solito Lindo, but you

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know what I mean, you know, solo Americans feeling confident

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yet having concerns about aging alone because financially solo Americans

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feel confident and take a strong sense of accomplishment in

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managing their money, pushing back against common misconceptions that they

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are less financially secure or limited in their ability to

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build well. According to a new research from the American

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I should say Ameror Prize Financial, yet many single, divorced,

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and widowed adults have real concerns about aging alone and

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navigating the long term financial decisions that come with it.

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Here to tell us more about it, as I mentioned

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as Deana Heally, she's the vice president of financial Planning

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and Advice with Ameror Prize Financial. Dina, welcome, Michelle, good

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to have you with us.

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Thank you so much. Bill, appreciate the time today.

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Well, you know a lot of misperceptions about people who

1732
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are flying solo. You know, for whatever occurrence, either you know,

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01:30:52.560 --> 01:30:54.920
a decision of their own or something out of their

1734
01:30:54.920 --> 01:30:59.359
controls suddenly they find themselves on their own. And you know,

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01:30:59.439 --> 01:31:03.079
one of the first things after, you know, especially if

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a loved one is past in dealing with grief, is that, Okay,

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01:31:06.079 --> 01:31:07.560
what am I going to do? You know, in terms

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of my financial security? Did you plan ahead of time

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or is this all of a sudden going to be

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a real quick reactive process, right.

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Right, And really, when we embarked on the study, we

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01:31:18.560 --> 01:31:22.239
realized that forty six percent of Americans are single, according

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01:31:22.239 --> 01:31:25.640
to the US Census Bureau, so that's a huge part

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01:31:25.640 --> 01:31:29.199
of our population. The research that we did showed that

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those who were financially solo, whether they're single, divorced, or widowed,

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reported that eighty five percent reported that they felt confident

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in managing their day to day finances and their financial situation,

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01:31:42.560 --> 01:31:46.880
but a similar proportion identified that they had concerns about

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01:31:46.920 --> 01:31:49.920
aging alone and making sure that they were prepared for

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01:31:50.039 --> 01:31:53.560
retirement and prepared for the cost of healthcare and long

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01:31:53.680 --> 01:31:54.760
term care expenses.

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Well, in your research, you know, look at some practical

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things like, you know, having an updated formal will for example.

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01:32:02.720 --> 01:32:06.159
Right, Absolutely, those were some of the gaps that we

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01:32:06.279 --> 01:32:08.359
identified that those.

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Who are financially solo.

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Roughly three to four and ten only had a will

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or a health care proxy or a financial power of attorney.

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And so those are real steps that you can take

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01:32:19.439 --> 01:32:24.720
today to make sure that you've shored up that particular situation. Similarly,

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often they didn't have the appropriate insurance strategies to address

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what might happen in the event of disability or a

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long term care.

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Stay, right, and what about savings.

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01:32:36.760 --> 01:32:40.319
So they did identify, interestingly, two key things. They felt

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01:32:40.359 --> 01:32:43.720
a sense of accomplishment as it related to things like

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saving for retirement.

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They called that out loud and clear.

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They also indicated that they felt a sense of accomplishment

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that they weren't going to be a financial burden to others, right,

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01:32:54.640 --> 01:32:58.359
But that those same things came out in the concerns

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that they identified. They wanted to make sure that they

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were on track for retirement and that they were prepared

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for the risks that can come from healthcare and long

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01:33:09.199 --> 01:33:10.199
term care expenses.

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01:33:10.880 --> 01:33:13.840
Well, yeah, exactly, because you know the affording of long

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term care that continues to increase every year, right.

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That's right.

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And so I think one of the things that I

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recognized in the research is that just because you're financially

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solo doesn't mean that you have to go it alone.

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You can reach out to a trusted financial advisor and

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01:33:29.119 --> 01:33:32.319
they can help you understand, first of all, what's important

1784
01:33:32.319 --> 01:33:34.399
to you about your money, what would you like your

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retirement to look like, and they can put dollars to

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that they can help you put together a plan to

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make sure you're on track for retirement, but also help

1788
01:33:43.840 --> 01:33:47.279
you find strategies to meet those rising costs of healthcare

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01:33:47.319 --> 01:33:48.159
and long term care.

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You know, your study indicated that solo adults feel empowered

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today and they're fairly confident all things considered. But like anything,

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01:33:57.319 --> 01:33:59.319
you know, that's on the surface, but when you start

1793
01:33:59.359 --> 01:34:03.560
asking the tough questions, and of course I think a

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01:34:02.960 --> 01:34:07.239
big one is it's just a concern of I think

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01:34:07.439 --> 01:34:09.000
most of us we don't want to be a burden

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01:34:09.039 --> 01:34:09.840
to anybody, do we.

1797
01:34:10.319 --> 01:34:10.760
That's right.

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01:34:10.880 --> 01:34:13.520
That theme did call out that they were concerned about

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01:34:13.520 --> 01:34:14.760
being a financial burden.

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01:34:15.159 --> 01:34:17.520
Now, the flip side was that many said that.

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01:34:17.520 --> 01:34:22.159
They reported benefits to being financially solo. They said that

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01:34:22.239 --> 01:34:26.399
they were able to make financial decisions perhaps more quickly,

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01:34:27.000 --> 01:34:30.520
there was less conflict about making the financial decisions, and

1804
01:34:30.560 --> 01:34:33.479
they felt a sense of freedom about how they chose

1805
01:34:33.520 --> 01:34:35.319
to spend their money. So it really is sort of

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01:34:35.640 --> 01:34:39.119
a tale of confidence and independence as well as concern

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01:34:39.560 --> 01:34:40.840
for their financial future.

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Well, we're talking abou Dina Healy. She is a certified

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01:34:45.760 --> 01:34:48.920
financial planner. She's a vice president with Financial planning and

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01:34:49.039 --> 01:34:53.279
advice for amor prize financial and we're talking about the

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01:34:53.319 --> 01:34:56.520
revelation of this new research for onton purpose. I mean,

1812
01:34:56.560 --> 01:34:59.520
it seems very practical, you know. You know, the questions

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01:34:59.560 --> 01:35:03.600
were practic responses, you know, very genuine, and this gives

1814
01:35:03.640 --> 01:35:05.880
us kind of a guideline, you know, for those who

1815
01:35:05.920 --> 01:35:10.239
are you know, financially solo what you know, some questions

1816
01:35:10.279 --> 01:35:11.920
they can ask of themselves.

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01:35:11.439 --> 01:35:14.560
Right absolutely, And I think that's why it's so important

1818
01:35:14.600 --> 01:35:17.119
to me, is that we need to be able to

1819
01:35:17.199 --> 01:35:19.640
understand what are those steps I can take? How can

1820
01:35:19.720 --> 01:35:22.359
I understand what I want for my future? How can

1821
01:35:22.399 --> 01:35:24.439
I put a plan in place to meet that. What

1822
01:35:24.520 --> 01:35:27.199
are some of the legal and insurance protections I might

1823
01:35:27.279 --> 01:35:29.800
need to have in place so that I'm really prepared

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01:35:29.880 --> 01:35:31.319
and successful in the future.

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01:35:31.960 --> 01:35:33.359
Diana, if you can put up with me for just

1826
01:35:33.399 --> 01:35:35.479
a moment, I'm gonna I want you to, you know,

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01:35:35.600 --> 01:35:38.720
step through because my brain, you know, and especially our audience.

1828
01:35:38.720 --> 01:35:40.119
So I whant to help them because you get so

1829
01:35:40.239 --> 01:35:43.000
much information here and you could help us a long way.

1830
01:35:43.239 --> 01:35:45.760
Because I believe in good counsel and so I'm going

1831
01:35:45.800 --> 01:35:47.960
to take advantage of you. If that's okay, please do

1832
01:35:48.039 --> 01:35:52.439
all right, So what steps let's talk talk specifically, what

1833
01:35:52.640 --> 01:35:57.039
specific steps can financially solo adults take to building this

1834
01:35:57.119 --> 01:35:59.159
lasting confidence that we've been talking about.

1835
01:35:59.439 --> 01:36:03.880
Yeah, I think I would start with first sitting down

1836
01:36:03.880 --> 01:36:06.520
and understanding what do you want for your future?

1837
01:36:06.960 --> 01:36:08.600
Really putting pen to paper.

1838
01:36:08.319 --> 01:36:10.680
If you will, to say, this is what I'd like

1839
01:36:10.720 --> 01:36:13.439
my retirement to look like. Paint me a picture of

1840
01:36:13.479 --> 01:36:16.159
the day you become retired. What would you like to

1841
01:36:16.199 --> 01:36:18.880
be able to do? Because an advisor can then help

1842
01:36:18.960 --> 01:36:21.760
you put a plan in place to meet those goals

1843
01:36:22.159 --> 01:36:24.479
that may be looking at how much are you saving,

1844
01:36:24.800 --> 01:36:27.199
how are you investing your money, is.

1845
01:36:27.159 --> 01:36:28.560
It managed appropriately?

1846
01:36:28.760 --> 01:36:34.119
Managing risk and return, Understanding your particular long term time

1847
01:36:34.159 --> 01:36:37.439
horizon and your risk tolerance. All of those things go

1848
01:36:37.520 --> 01:36:40.800
into play while thinking about how I manage taxes around that,

1849
01:36:41.199 --> 01:36:44.800
and then again the legal and protection strategies that will

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01:36:44.840 --> 01:36:47.119
help mitigate in the event of something bad happening.

1851
01:36:47.800 --> 01:36:49.439
Yeah. I like the idea of starting with the end

1852
01:36:49.520 --> 01:36:50.039
in mind.

1853
01:36:50.239 --> 01:36:51.439
Absolutely, you know.

1854
01:36:51.439 --> 01:36:55.119
That's always a great beginning, you know, to start with

1855
01:36:55.199 --> 01:36:58.520
the end, you know, how do you see yourself? And

1856
01:36:58.600 --> 01:37:03.319
it will answer those questions and those hesitancies that you

1857
01:37:03.600 --> 01:37:06.680
may have that you may be insecure about, including you know,

1858
01:37:06.880 --> 01:37:10.119
not wanting to be a burden you know on someone else, Right.

1859
01:37:10.279 --> 01:37:10.760
That's right.

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01:37:11.359 --> 01:37:13.039
Like I like to say, if you don't know where

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01:37:13.039 --> 01:37:14.800
you're going, every road will take you there.

1862
01:37:15.199 --> 01:37:17.560
That to me, right, I mean, that's knowing where you

1863
01:37:17.600 --> 01:37:17.880
want to.

1864
01:37:17.920 --> 01:37:20.840
Head, you can really plan appropriately so that you don't

1865
01:37:20.880 --> 01:37:25.439
become a financial burden on others. That really resonated with

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01:37:25.600 --> 01:37:28.960
those who those respondents in their study, that was really.

1867
01:37:28.720 --> 01:37:29.479
Important for them.

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01:37:30.720 --> 01:37:32.199
Any surprises for you.

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01:37:32.760 --> 01:37:35.239
I think one of the key surprises was this notion

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01:37:35.399 --> 01:37:40.399
of independence and intentionality. Three quarters of the respondents said

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01:37:40.399 --> 01:37:43.920
they expected to remain financially solo for the long term,

1872
01:37:44.359 --> 01:37:47.319
eight and ten said they expected to remain financially solo

1873
01:37:47.720 --> 01:37:50.039
even if they found themselves in a couple or a

1874
01:37:50.039 --> 01:37:54.359
partnership in the future. So this notion of like intentionality

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01:37:54.760 --> 01:37:57.680
to stay financially solo, but that doesn't mean you have

1876
01:37:57.720 --> 01:38:02.560
to go without support, so finding someone who can help you.

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01:38:03.840 --> 01:38:07.880
Those who worked with an advisor reported eighty percent reported

1878
01:38:07.920 --> 01:38:11.159
feeling more confident about their financial future and having a

1879
01:38:11.199 --> 01:38:14.600
sense of where they were headed and so making sure

1880
01:38:14.640 --> 01:38:16.960
that you have that support, someone you can reach out to,

1881
01:38:17.520 --> 01:38:19.600
bounce ideas off, help.

1882
01:38:19.479 --> 01:38:21.159
Think through financial decisions was.

1883
01:38:21.119 --> 01:38:24.720
Really important to their confidence in how they thought about

1884
01:38:24.760 --> 01:38:25.279
their future.

1885
01:38:25.960 --> 01:38:28.239
Indean, I'm sure. Also, this isn't like a one and

1886
01:38:28.279 --> 01:38:30.199
done kind of deal. I mean, you really want to

1887
01:38:30.199 --> 01:38:33.199
have a relationship with your financial advisor to where you

1888
01:38:33.279 --> 01:38:35.720
can do something on an annual basis at least, or

1889
01:38:36.239 --> 01:38:39.159
if there's some radical change, you know, some alteration and

1890
01:38:39.279 --> 01:38:42.399
course that you didn't expect caught you by surprise. Always

1891
01:38:42.479 --> 01:38:44.680
nice to have their number nearby where you've be in

1892
01:38:44.720 --> 01:38:45.640
contact with them, right.

1893
01:38:45.960 --> 01:38:46.640
Absolutely.

1894
01:38:46.960 --> 01:38:49.239
I think the other thing I'd note is that being

1895
01:38:49.279 --> 01:38:52.479
financially solo also wasn't a one and done. It's something

1896
01:38:52.520 --> 01:38:55.560
that changes over the course of your life. You may

1897
01:38:55.600 --> 01:38:59.800
be single in your early twenties and then find yourself married,

1898
01:39:00.039 --> 01:39:03.479
but then you also might find yourself divorced. You might

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Hey, we're back with you. Glad you could join us.

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Bill Martinez here, and we've got Katie Asher joining us.

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She's the author of the Book of Heaven, a story

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of hope for the outcast, the broken, and those who

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lost faith. Kave you welcome, Michelle. Good to have you

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with us.

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Thanks so much for having me.

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Well, I wanted to talk to you specifically about you know,

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we're hearing a lot about young gen Z men especially

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that are attending churches in droves. In fact, I'm here

2011
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in California from Florida for the last week or so.

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I'm going to be here for another week here with

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my children. I've missed them. I haven't a chance to

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visit with them for a couple of years, and so

2015
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I've been making the most of it and my observation

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and attending church with my youngest son. I was impressed

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in seeing the amount of young people coming in. But

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I know that the amazement for a lot of people

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is that WHOA, it's more men than women.

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Yes, And I think I actually there are a lot

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of things about this, this new information, and I think

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Barnum was the one who was the first like calculating

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all of this, Is that right? And really I feel

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like this is leadership. This is men taking back that

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role of leadership. And it should start with your It

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should start with the spirit. You don't start with leading

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about money. You don't start with leading about you know, policies.

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You start with the heart. And you have to get

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the heart right first. So I'm thrilled that men are

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coming back to the church, coming back to Christ and

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really longing to find godly women to have a family with.

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Right well exactly. And I think that, you know a

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little bit of that you can thank Charlie Kirk for

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because when he was on the college campus, he was

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telling these young kids, get married, go have ten kids

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and so. And it was interesting because I was observing

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the looks on the faces of some of these kids

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when they heard that. It was like, gosh, you know,

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that's right. You know, I really hadn't thought about that

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in a while.

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You know, We've they've.

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Been fed an entirely different message the entire time they

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were in school, that getting married was destined to divorce,

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that you should only do it when you're financially stable,

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which is when's that gonna ever happen, you know, and

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that only two children was appropriate and you should never

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have more because you're going to overpopulate the planet. And

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the reality is is all the population information, especially out

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of the communist countries we were and now learning, is

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completely invalid and that they were lying about the numbers

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and really the US actually is posed to have a

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not be able to replace itself by two thousand.

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Yeah, in like thirty years. I think they said this,

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that's that's it.

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Those are terrifying numbers, but it's a result of the

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population and the policies and the basically the culture that

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has created this culture where the only thing that you

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should live for you right.

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Yeah, that's that's my observation, Katie is I think that

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this generation, you know, leading up to Gen Z right now,

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and maybe they've gone through enough experiences that realizing that

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selfishness and self centered centeredness is not necessarily the answer.

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It's the opposite of the answer.

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It's the problem, right, And these kids are coming out

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and one of the things that I keep praying the

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Church doesn't mess this up, because you know what I'm

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hearing from these kids is they want the truth. Just

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give me the truth. I don't care how harsh it is.

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I just want to know that I want to know

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who I can trust, because there's so many untrustworthy sources

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flourishing these days, you know well.

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And the reality is the church has really shied away

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from talking about sin and repentance and the call to holiness,

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and that these are actually the fun mental ways upon

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which this spiritual battle is waged. That is, our actions,

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our heart, our thoughts, our faith are actually how the battle.

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Is one in the spiritual realm.

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And so it's imperative that the church teach a message

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that is completely accurate to the Bible and step away

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from this consumerism, you know, enterprise that they have been

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you know, leading for some time now, and go back

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to a community centered, family centered, wholesome small you know,

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where people know each other, where people have relationships. It's

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in the relationships that the society, the community, the congregation

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is formed.

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It's not in a theatrical production.

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And the teaching is what aligns us with all that

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is true and necessary to be able to battle on

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in the world and stand for what God stands for exactly.

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And the thing that I love about the realization of this, Katie,

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is that we're realizing that it doesn't necessarily require a

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miracle because this is the way we've been wired, this

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is the way God wired us. And so when we

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respond to our natural our natural inclinations and wiring in

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that sort of thing, there's this sense of peace and

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this oh wow, why didn't I just why didn't I

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know about this sooner? Right?

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Well, and I've seen I've seen women in my generation

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because I'm a gen X, right, and we were told

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that you had to do everything. You had to do

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all the family stuff and all the all the workplace stuff.

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You had to be everything to all people, and it

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is too much. And then we also and then we

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the men in my generation were taught to just live

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for yourself, and so one gender held all the responsibility

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in the other played they were Peter Pan and and

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what I'm seeing with women in this younger generation not,

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I know it's not as much as the men. But

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I have heard people on social media say, I really

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just want to be at home, I really just want

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to take care of my kids. I really just want

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to be a mom. That's actually what I want to

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be too, is just a mom. And it's great if

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you want to do something else, but you know, it's

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it's illogical to disregard the most basic instinct we have,

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which is to love our.

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Children right exactly and love one another. And and the

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thing is is that, you know, what I also appreciate

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about what gen Z is doing. Is there really you know,

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kind of you know, I guess reevaluating the political culture.

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01:50:39.319 --> 01:50:42.600
The political culture has been so manipulative and so mean,

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I mean to the point that I mean, it really

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affects the way people look. You know there you can

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almost tell and I don't know, and you can I

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01:50:53.680 --> 01:50:56.039
don't know, attack me later you want or whatever.

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But people become caricatures of their thoughts exactly.

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Okay, Well, thank you for saying that, because you know,

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it's hard to talk about you and say, you know,

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when somebody is so you know, just progressive and liberal

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in the way that they become mean spirited, they don't

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they look less attractive?

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Yeah, I agree, and they I mean, emotion is everything

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comes from spirit. So of course our spirit is affected

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by our thoughts, and so whenever we have and then

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the matter of course affects the spirit or I'm sorry,

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the spirit affects the matter.

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That's what I meant said.

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And so of course that actually has physical changes. It

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affects us physically, and we've all seen that. We know,

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people become what you think about. You know, the person

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01:51:45.079 --> 01:51:49.720
who's depressed becomes haggard and bent over and embitter, and

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the person who is hopeful becomes joyful and light and

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you see it in them.

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And that's what we should all long.

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For, is to have thoughts and feelings and desires that

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bring joy and life and love to all the earth.

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Okay, any understanding why these gen Z men, but in

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particular are flocking to Catholic churches. Why Catholic churches over

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Protestant churches.

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Because yes, absolutely, Protestant churches act like it can say,

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they're creating a consumer product. It's a theatrical production and

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you go in there and you consume their theater and

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there's no way.

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Actually very performance oriented.

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And people are flocking to Catholic churches, which I strongly

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encourage and to actually get back to the substance. They

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want the substance. They don't care. What you have to

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understand what pulled people away was that's boring. And then

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there was like you know, there was just all this

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disconnect with the actual service. It didn't seem you know, applicable.

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So then you had all this life application, right, and

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that was the whole move. And what happened in all

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that was church tried to chase culture instead of culture

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changing church.

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Right.

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People are recognizing it. We've got it backwards. We've got

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to go back to the church. Have church change us, right,

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we change culture?

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Right. Yeah, it's like everything has been inverted. You know.

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We say in the political process that politics should be

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downstream the culture, and that's flipped. And that's why everybody's

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so angry because it's the political worldview that is dictating

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people's perspective today. And it's the same thing, just like

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you say with church, is that the people need to

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be downstream the church. If you downstream the church, then

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you're going to reflect the values of the church, these

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godly principles that he established that go back to I

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always say, go back to the beginning and when God

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created man, after you know, the final accomplishment, you know

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the ground, you know, the crown jewel of his creation,

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he says, this is really good, very good.

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You know.

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So you asked why men, and I think the reason

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why men is because God wants men to be leaders.

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God wants men to be the spiritual leaders.

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And so where we're designed. He designed us that way. Yep, exactly.

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Women will follow when men lead.

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Yeah. No, I think that's an excellent point, and it

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might be you know, for some women that might. You know,

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it's interesting because I've talked with some women that you know,

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would churn over that concept, but then when they really

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think about it, they go, you know, I really would

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want a husband who is godly.

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You know, we really do, We genuinely like we long

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for it.

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And my generation has really you know, they were very

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a lot of drugs, a lot of chasing money and women,

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and just hedonism and materialism. And I think the other

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thing that's happening is people are seeing the end of materialism.

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They have seen that the it's run its course, that

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there's there's now lots of proof that we are more

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than the material physical world. And so that requires a

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reckoning that we have a spiritual nature.

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And if we do, what are you going to do

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about it?

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Exactly? Well, that's why I liked what you said about

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the rediscovery or maybe discovery of holiness, holiness which comes

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from God. And that's what you're doing. You're tuning yourself

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up and aligning yourself with godly principles. And when you

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01:55:25.159 --> 01:55:28.239
do that, you realize, oh what a mess, and you know,

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01:55:28.319 --> 01:55:31.319
like the other profits of Old Testament, you know, oh

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I'm toast, you know, because when you come into the

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presence of God, you realize how lacking you are. And

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of course what that does is it leads you to repent,

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to say, no, I need to I need to live differently.

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You know.

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I had someone who read our book. The first time

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they contacted me was oh, well, you know, can you

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01:55:50.520 --> 01:55:52.680
tell us about like how does this, you know, have

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01:55:52.720 --> 01:55:55.640
anything to do with UFOs and UAPs? And I said,

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01:55:55.680 --> 01:56:00.479
please read the book and you wrote me this morning, Eddie.

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Thank you for bringing me to Christ.

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Amen. Wow.

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And so that's really what I feel like. There are

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01:56:08.520 --> 01:56:11.159
all these lies and distractions and everything else to try

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01:56:11.199 --> 01:56:12.680
to pull us away from what is truth.

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And what we have to do is get back to truth.

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Amen. Katie Asher, author of the Book of Heaven, A

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story of hope for the outcast, the broken, and those

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who lost faith. Katie, thank you for being with us.

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Thank you so much.

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