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0:00 Are you ready? Yeah, Okay, let's do an Ill Martinas Live a program about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and our future. And now Bill Martinez. Well, good morning America. Glad you could join us. Bill Martinez here along with Mike O'Neil from Landmark Legal. Hey, Mike, lots of things to catch up on. As expected, the Supreme Court, you know, finalized the Voting Rights Act decision. Right, yes, great decision Louisa Louisiana versus LA last week. It was a win for the American people, a win for voting, a real recognition on the part of the Court that we have progressed as a society. We're moving ever towards that goal of a colorblind society. Congression of state legislatures can no longer use race or can severe in maybe very very extreme cases, can for all intents and purposes, let's be clear, can no longer use race to as the operative factor in how they gerrymanned are congressional districts.

0:59 Well, this is only the third time the Court said, hey, let's let this decision take effect immediately, right right? That? No, No, it's imperative that this there's some reports and again this is just these are just reports. None of this is confirmed there. But there's some some rumors or some rustlings or some smoke that some of the left, left wing judges or the liberal judges were slow walking this decision to bring it into the point where it couldn't be applied for the midterm elections. I don't know whether that happened or not, but there's a little bit more evidence to support that with some of the events in the past couple of days to support that that that conclusion. But nonetheless, it looks like this is going to be applicable. States like Florida have already moving on this.

1:48 Other states are poised to move on as well, and this is again good news. What what what are we saying here? The deconstructing it a little bit, and to get to get to the right to the heart of the matter, you have to think why were states discriminating on the basis of race? In other words, why was the state of Louisiana creating a second majority minority congressional district. And you have to ask yourself why they're doing that before you get to the answer, and you say, well, ostensibly in the past, under the voting right judges were doing this, and courts were doing this to remedy intentional discrimination. You had instances in the sixties and seventies, fifties, sixties and seventies, and maybe even into the eighties where you would have state legislatures would explicitly crack open African American neighborhoods.

2:39 And what do I mean by crack open for congressional districting? What do I mean by that? Say you have an African American neighborhood of fifty thousand people or area of the town of forty or fifty thousand people. Instead of having all those African Americans in one congressional district or they would maintain voting power, the state legislature would apportion it in such a manner that would be three or four or two or three or four congressional districts. So you would essentially dilute that power of that African American vote, and the state legislature would be doing that with the express purpose of diluting the power of African Americans, a racial purpose. Now that no longer occurs. In this case in Louisiana, for example, there was no evidence of any kind of intentional discrimination. And how the congressional districts were drawn originally, and in absence of that intentional discrimination, there is no constitutional rite of play, and courts don't have anything to play, and it's a non justiciable decision, and courts are outside of that and can no longer, can no longer interfere in how the state apportions its congressional districts.

3:41 And of course, on top of that, you've got the evolution of the culture really just in doing away with this idea of racism and systemic racism. And of course this is further evidence by the SPLC's maneuvers that they got caught with last week. Right, Yeah, it's funny how this all fits together. Right, And there there's another another even uh item you can uh uh information item. You can look on that too. Yeah. The s POC, of course, it's kind of brought itself to irrelevancy because of what we're talking about that they have to they have to create and manufacture controversy in order to maintain relevance. So again, allegedly, let's be very clear on this. This is this they're entitled just like everybody else in the presumption of innocence, But the indictment alleges that they were funneling millions of dollars to fringe organizations, and you can only think they will argue that, hey, we were paying informants and we were trying to manage informants.

4:37 That that's specious. But what the conclusion any any reasonable person can draw from that is, well, you gave one hundred thousand dollars to a klu klux Klan organization out there in the hinter lands so that they continue to exist. So you have you have a boogeyman. You can continue to identify and justify your existence and raise lots of money off of right. So, uh, it's kind of a it's it's it's kind of an interesting grift. You have to fund your opposition to maintain your relevance because your opposition has no effectiveness anymore. And again, this is all great news. This is good. This is showing how our country has moved forward right towards this colored bind ideal that our framers and vision. And arguably there was a purpose for the VRA's application in congressional apportionment back in the sixties, seventies, and eighties when it was first done in the eighties. Really but largely that overwhelmingly, I shouldn't say largely, but for all intents and purposes, that institutional racism that was so that was prevalent in decades past no longer exists today.

5:38 This is really, as you said in the opening, this is a victory for America. You know that we can go you know, we aren't racist. You know, it's like there's clear evidence. I mean, we've known all along, you know, because whenever you know the race card would be thrown out, you pause for a minute. You know. It's kind of like a shank in golf. You know, where did that come from? You know, and you have to kind of meditate on that a moment. And we've been chewed up by it, and now the courts are even agreeing that, no, there is no systemic racism. We're not a racist country now on all these organizations that have been grifting off of this and you know, having you know, accounts, which is another situation, having bank accounts offshore.

6:25 You know, yeah, yeah, I mean two a couple things. Let me touch on the There is another interesting point I want to make about the lack of systemic racism and racism in voting, and then we could touch on SPLC for a second, And I think a really good example is the Virginia gubernatorial election in twenty twenty five, because you had an African American Republican nominee running against a white, suburban Democrat nominee. So you really kind of had really a good test case to show this. Now, I'm a native Virginian. I live in Virginia. My daughter goes to cool down in southwest Virginia, so I'm intimately kind of familiar with the makeup of Virginia and and how it works. So they're parts of Virginia that have that's still again towards the southwestern parts of the state, where you can still see the Confederate flag, right and it's flying, people have Confederate flags on their bumpers, et cetera.

7:17 You also have sons of the Confederacy marches in some of these towns. So people, you know, the hoy POLOI would call them racist. Well, if you look at how they voted in twenty twenty five, it doesn't jib because in counties, I'll give you an example, Taswell County, which is in the southwestern part of Virginia, and the part of that I was talking about, voted overwhelmingly. This is a ninety percent plus white county and they voted over eighty percent for a black Republican woman. Wow wow, So what does that tell you? And conversely, on the other side of the ledger, Abigail Spaanberger, who is a white Democrat, secured over ninety percent of the African American vote. So look at this, So what does that tell you? That tells you that even in the so called racist parts of Virginia, those folks were so racist that they voted overwhelmingly for a black gubernatorial Republican blackbat a black woman for the guminatorial race. Now what motivated those people? They race was not dispositive, Bill, What was dispositive was wins Earl Series is positions on guns, guns, really guns, that's a big one. Taxes, immigration, you know, maybe the war on other other states.

8:31 And still gender protection protection in that Republicans. Right, nothing that we could see that race was not was not a factor in it, because if it had been a factor, you wouldn't she would have secured over eighty percent of the vote. In fact, the whiter the county in Virginia, the higher the degree wins Earl Series won. So. And on the other side again and on the other side of the ledger African Americans. This is important to talk about it both sides here. African Americans did not care that Abigail Spamberger is a white woman. What did they care about, Well, they cared about the fact that she's a Democrat. That's what motivated them to vote for her. It wasn't. So the point here is to your point about color blind society, I would just simply say to anybody who says that race is somehow motivating or is somehow operative in the electoral process, look at Virginia twenty five and explain that to me.

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14:13 Yeah, yeah, it's great. I think it's it's good going forward politically, We'll see how how this shakes out. I think the Gerrymander wars have begun, yeah, I mean if they hadn't begun, they if they hadn't they had already begun. But I think this, of course is probably an escalation in that. Now you're gonna you see what DeSantis, Governor DeSantis did in Florida. Moved very rapidly, and kudos to him for having his ducks in the line and ready to go right when that decision came down. Again, more more exceptional leadership from uh Ron DeSantis, which you know, it's just he just continues to set the bar higher and higher for for Republicans in the country right now. So that's that's important. But again, well.

14:54 You got New York, you got New York's New York reaction. You knew that was gonna happen. Right, yep, you've got the other states that are going to continue. But fundamentally, what this is is this is a political and this is what the Supreme Court really get to get the heart of the matter is. And this is what the Court's been trending to. If you look at how they refuse to hear the California case, refuse to hear the Texas case with regards to their congressionary redistricting. The Court is saying, these are political decisions, These are non justiciable. The courts don't have jurisdiction to hear these, These are these are issues that should be should be wrangled out amongst the political branches. To the victor belong the spoils basically, I mean. For what it is. And the Court's rationale is this. And you know, people might say, well, my vote power is being deluded. It's unfair, and it's unfair that I live in a forty five percent state of Republican state in Virginia and I'm only going to have you know, one congressional representative in Congress. How is that fair? Well, again, the court says the the Supreme Court says, look, it's not our job to adjudicate fairness. It's our job to adjudicate violations of constitutional rights. Right, and you don't have a constitutional right to a republic publican representative. I don't have a constitutional right to a Democrat representative. If the state is discriminating on the basis of race, that implicates the fourteenth and fifteenth Amendment, and then you can't discriminate on the basis rates. That's their constitutional hook there. So until Congress passes a law, and unless they pass the law, they might not if they probably won't, they might regarding apportionment and Republican and political apportionment representative in Congress, then

16:28 this is just going to be hashed out the way it's being hashed out in state legislatures. Well, and this is why the importance of the Save Act comes into play, Mike. We've got to secure elections because the majority of Americans, Republican Democrat do not have, you know, a lot of confidence in the election process as it stands today. Yeah, that's another important piece of legislation that needs to get through asap. I mean again, it's I think there's been a little movement on it in Congress now in the Senate, it's been as we've said, I said repeatedly on the show. It's been it's been languishing in the Senate for months at this point. And this is something that eighty percent of Americans agree on across all demographics CNN.

17:09 I just saw a recent a recent poland CNN just in the past week, seventy five percent of African Americans think you should show voter identification to vote. Seventy five percent of African Americans, right, And that's eighty percent of Caucasians, eighty percent of Hispanics. So across all demographics, Republicans, Democrats, Blacks, Whites, Hispanics, everybody agrees that you should show idea to vote. Why there isn't a federal law on the books for this is absurd at this point, right, absolutely absurd until it gets through, you know, the Senate shouldn't do anything other than well, fun makes I think they've gotten the DHS funding through, but after that next thing on the line should be getting voter id through asap. Absolutely well, exactly because this idea of fairness. People don't like things when they they're unfair, you know, and you know, you know, here you are in a state like Virginia and you're going to have only one Republican representative. So you're going to go, why you know, and so this is why your vote matters. But it's going to take a little bit of time. It's not going to be as immediate as a court decision to ferret this out because like all things political, you get those you know, the resistance that takes place because you know, the Democratic Party is in a scramble right now because their model has been turned on its head. Right.

18:24 Yeah, absolutely, I mean the numbers aren't are adding up, and I think that's really the point here is if you take reasonable measures to secure the vote, i e. Remove non citizens from voting roles, Mandate that you establish your citizenship when you register to vote, and also and obligate an individual to show voter ID limit bail voting. Again, I'm a big proponent of this. Mail voting is with you an opportunity to doctor and to doctor and all kinds of mouth feasans when it comes to voting. I'm not saying that you shouldn't have mail voting in certain instances. I know that certain states are wedded to it. Nonetheless, people should be expected to vote in person and on election day when I don't think that's too much to ask paper ballots. If you do use mail voting, I think President Trump's executive order is applicable here. There needs to be some secure measures. There need to be measures to tighten that up. I think his executive order is probably within his executive power. That's always a question. What he's proposed is implementing rules for the mail service, the Postal Service putting security measures on mail ballots. I think that that's probably within the power purview of the Postal Service to do. Again, we have to secure this. When people lose confidence in the fact that their vote doesn't count, that's a really bad thing. We've talked about this before as well.

19:40 Bill. You have to feel like your vote counts. And if you feel like your vote counts and you had a fair shot at it and you lost, the American way is to accept it. But if you feel like that you're you know that it's not fair and your vote count didn't count, that walks us down a really dangerous path. Well, look what happened on January sixth, Yeah to this day, which still hasn't been settled. You know, fact that you had fellow Americans, you know, exercising their civil right and duty to question, uh, you know, to question the process, and they end up in jail and persecuted and stuff like this. I mean, this is egregious, you know what was done to the citizens of America only because they just had questions. Yeah, legitimate questions, right, And this is this is what I've said, is mail voting just undermines the process because when you it's well, let me say, there's there's gonna be a Supreme Court decision that's going to come down to the next hopefully in the next couple of weeks here regarding election day, right, whether states can have these ballots that are collected post election day and whether that that's violative of the law. And I think that I think the Court's going to go no, election day means election day. You can't have a state law that says we accept our ballots three weeks after election day, which is absurd because you have a three week window where the state of we're bad actors in the state of Washington, exactly a bad incentive to have. Look, either, if you're gonna have a mail vote, it's bad enough that you have a mail vote. If you're gonna have is it too much to expect you to have your ballot received by election day. Come on, give me a freaking break bill.

21:11 That's not too much to ask. Get it in if you have to take it to the drop box, if you have to, if you're gonna mail vote by mail, make sure you get it in five days before the election day. It's not too it's not too much to ask to do these little things. Well, and then the deal is is that the Democrats have taken these minor elusive suggestions and possibilities and they've made it into uh, you know, you know, into a mountain out of a molehill, you know. But that's what they do time until I have to Yeah. See what happens is they have to because they have to exploit the vulnerabilities in the system to ensure their own elections. If they don't, if they don't exploit those elections, their numbers drop precipitously. If you don't have it's not it's not a coincidence that in mail vote states, it's there.

21:56 Those are one party states, right, I mean, come on, are you telling me that's a coincidence? That you're telling me something that I just can't buy right that when you have reasonable protections on the votes. What does it mean when you see that there's when you have to vote on an election day, when you have to show ID to vote, when you have to vote by, when you have paper ballots, when you have all of these normal protections, what does it tell you that in those cases, loot of Democrats don't get elected in those states in those races. But when you have open voting, oh lo and behold, suddenly it becomes California and Democrats have super majorities across the board. I mean, it's I'm not saying it's incredibly very difficult to show voter or fraud, but when you have no reasonable protections, it opens the door to any kind of mouth seasons, all kinds of mischief.

22:41 You can. You can manufacture votes through ballot harvesting and mail voting and open elections, And if it looks like you're only within two or three thousand votes for an outcome, it doesn't take a lot to go out there and find three or four thousand votes. It really does exactly imperative. Yeah, they probably already have in a back room somewhere and they just know what file drawer to go to if they need it. A final seconds here. This was interesting that, you know, because it's rare that you get, you know, kind of behind the doors of scotus. But this caused some iron conflict between Cantanji Brown Jackson and Alito. Yeah, in the conservative group. I mean she she attacked the conservative you know justices because they decided to immediately finalize the Voting Rights Action decision.

23:30 Right right, There was a little there were some procedural missteps by the part of the individual the people who were trying to advocate on behalf of the implementation of this new majority minority district, and they they missed, they missed an opportunity to petition for reconsideration. And you know, Justice Alito said, okay, look it's you missed it. You missed your shot. It's too late. We're going to implement this immediately now. And Justice Jackson took ire with that, and then Justice is Uh Alito and others were forced to respond. I think this is not smart business for for Justice Jackson. Look, she has to work with these individuals. There's nine of them. There's nine justices on the Supreme Court.

24:12 You have to build coalitions and have maintain relationships with these people. Even if they are different, if they are from a different ideological or political spectrum, or approach their analysis differently than you do. Nonetheless, you you're not effective if you continue to isolate yourself in this manner in order to score points with the left or however you want to be. Well, what what is this the second or third time that she's bumped into the justice right now? Yeah, it's it's and and here's the thing is you're some You're you're increasing, not increasing, but at least several opportunities. And you pointed this out. She's the loan. She doesn't even have an ally and soa and Justice soon to my ore. Yeah, right, So think of where where does that come from? If if if Justice Soona my Ore isn't joining you, maybe you're a little bit out there.

24:56 Maybe you should, maybe you should pull Maybe you should pull back on the reins or throttle back a lit little bit on what you're saying, because you know, maybe you have these passionate beliefs, but the applicability to Supreme Court jurisprudence isn't the time, isn't the way to express it? And again, you're further isolating yourself. You're not going to move the ball in any way. I keep thinking about, look at let's look at this, and I know we're going along here, but this is important to talk about. Justice Thomas is celebrating now he's the second longest serving justice on the Supreme Court. Right, his career had started in the early nineteen nineties, had to spanned decades. Look at how he's been able to move the court in a direction, and look at the way and for all every report out of the Supreme Court as this is a gem of a man. This is probably our greatest living American. And he didn't even though his descents early on in his tenure. We're out there and he was setting a he was setting a position out there. He continued to maintain the relationships to move the court and away.

25:54 Now would if I were a liberal justice sitting on the Supreme Court, that would be my model. Although I might agree with them philosophically, I wouldn't isolate myself from the rest of the court because ultimately, what is your goal here? Whatever, I'm trying to stand in her shoes, right, what is her goal? Right? No, exactly, but look at Justice Thomas's goal, right, that should be your model. Justice Thomas, not isolating yourself to the point where all the other justices are forced to use increasingly strident language in responding to you. Yeah, you're going to end up. I guess your only relief is write a book or get a podcast r I guess you know. So what do you do? We'll leave it there. Mike O'Neil from Landmark Legal, Thank you, Michael, Take care, have a good.

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30:10 Hey glad you could join us. Bill Martinez here with doctor Wilfrid Riley. He is the professor of political science Kentucky State University, the author of Kaboo, Ten Facts You Can't Talk About and Live's my liberal teacher taught me. Hey doctor, Well, how are we doing? Doing pretty well? Bill? How are you? Hey? Well, I'm in California experiencing the high price of castoline here. It's just nuts. I cannot believe this. And of course the political season is here in the run for mayor, and it's causing a lot of attention here with Spencer Pratt running for la mayor. I mean, he's got probably one of the greatest political ads of all time. That's been airing all over Los Angeles here, so pretty hysterical.

30:54 So what is the price of gas in California? Well, i'll tell you. The other day, my dear friend told me he paid eight dollars and fifty cents per gallon of gas. Eight dollars and fifty I've seen it anywhere from five to fifty. He was. He was desperate, he was down to zero in his tank, and I just said, well, why don't you just put in, you know, a couple of gallons you didn't need to go and you know, fill up at eight fifty My goodness, you almost had to go out and take a loan. But you know, the thing is it's disturbing about this will is that I think I was talking with somebody else, you know, that still lives in the area. He says, over two dollars per gallon is just taxes and fees that goes to California. Yeah, I'm not surprised by that at all. In really high tax states, you've got taxes on virtually everything you could imagine. And I mean I think a lot of young people and they realize what taxes aren't don't understand that.

31:45 I mean, you see payroll tax coming out of your check up to one hundred and twelve thousand or whatever. You maybe have to pay income tax, but you don't understand there's also a city tax, a state tax, a gasoline tax, a property tax, your tax if you die. So California the highest tax state in the Union. And I mean, I think everyone who's been out there on business or to live has seen like the reality of that practice. Yeah, it's just amazing to me. But and the deal is is that if you had something positive to show for it and say, well, well, at least we got the best educated kids on the planet. I mean, look at look at Chicago, look at Illinois for example, what what is their ranking? I was just reading about this the other day. I don't know. Their proficiency is you know, you know, just in reading. I think, is uh just some you know, unacceptable number for all the money that they're pouring into Illinois. It's just it's just amazing to me that they're able to get away with this. But California, same thing. I mean, their proficiency in reading and math skills are just you know, very unacceptable for the amount of money that we're pouring into the education system.

32:53 Right, Yeah, I mean, there's almost no correlation whatsoever between the amount of money that's spent on higher ed and the quality of the schools. And this, again is something that I think is just objectively amazing to a lot of people. But every year they look at who the best scoring American kids are, and it's people who are like homeschooled by their mom. And then it's people who go to small Catholic schools that have very very little budget, And the schools in places like Chicago, where we spend thirty thousand dollars per kit, are almost always terrible. So yeah, there's that. It's not a reverse loop. There's a very slight improvement if you look at money given across the country, but it's really not the impact you'd expect or you'd imagine from mass financial contributions.

33:37 Well, I found that number I was looking for, ten billion is the annual budget in Chicago. Only forty three percent ten billion. Only forty three percent of students are proficient in reading, twenty seven percent are proficient in math. And keep in mind, the only reason they got those numbers they lowered the standards. Yeah, I mean, it's it really is pretty remarkable. I will say Hey, Chicago schools range from those in the hood that are absolutely terrible to those on the gold coast of the Lake that are pretty good. So I mean forty three percent proficient in what you say. Reading in in reading, yes, forty three percent in reading. Yeah, that's actually about the national number. I mean, so proficient is above grade level top half. So I mean, it's never going to be Lake Wobegon, It's never going to be everybody, but it is still pretty remarkable. I mean, in Chicago we spend thirty one thousand dollars per kit.

34:30 And you know, a blackboard costs two hundred bucks if you have to put the slates together. A book is twenty dollars. You really do wonder what the rest of the money goes for. And I will say one tip is that if you go downtown in Chicago and you walk toward State Street and Michigan Avenue down like Lacelle, you'll actually see the Chicago Board of Education, which is a forty story skyscraper with you know, brass faucet handles and so on. So the question is how much of the money that comes in really gets directed to the average school in some poor block, black or Irish neighborhood, and I tend to suspect not a whole lot. But that's a set of books I've never opened. Well, we've known for a long time in a general consensus idea of what's going on there, and that is that you look at the structure and it's administratively heavy.

35:18 Oh yeah, and so that tells you. That tells you right there, because look at with all the administrators that you've got in the system, you're worse off than you were than before. Yeah. I mean, so this is a problem throughout the country that's been called bureaucratic, creep, elite, overproduction at the entry end, so on down the line. But when you talk about how every field has gotten a lot bigger and a lot more expensive, that doesn't mean we have a lot more qualified airline pilots than we used to. We have a lot more qualified good docs than we used to. It means that in every field they're all of these paper pushers with BA degrees that are just complicating and slowing down what used to be done. Did you see that thing on Twitter and Facebook that went viral about invent a new chess piece. No, I didn't see that was okay, Like there was a discussion. It was a Muslim guy that asked originally because there's a game shah or something that's like chess. It was a wholesome conversation.

36:18 I heard some remnants of it, but I didn't quite get it. So I'm glad you're bringing it up. Go ahead. But they asked what. So people were talking about if you can create one new chess piece, what would it be like? The Queen for those who play chess, can go anywhere on the board. The king's the most powerful piece, but he can only move one space surrounded by soldiers and anyway. Someone said that the chess piece they would invent would be called the Bureaucrat. It wouldn't be able to take pieces or do anything useful, but it could move to any space on the board and just slow things down, just get in the way. And I thought that was absolutely hilarious. But that is what we're seeing, I mean so in medicine and some people cremew The stats guy on Twitter's pointed out that this is a bit exaggerated, but most people in business have seen this chart where it's like there's a yellow line at the bottom that's a number of doctors, and that yellow line about doubles between World War two and today.

37:06 We had a lot of docs during our period of peak military conflict. Then there's a blue bar which starts at almost nothing and increases untill it's four times the size of the doctor bar. And that's the bar for all the other people in hospitals like you, admissions, paperwork, analytics, legal, I mean, if you're a Cleveland clinic or something, as a staff of four or five lawyers on the premises at any given time. Right, So that's why it costs so much money to go to the doctor, Like you're sure they charge you at ten bucks for an advoc but they only give you two. The real reason is all the built in protection against lawsuits, the going back and forth with pharma about the cost of drugs, the stuff that were it removed, no one would notice. So yeah, that's an issue throughout society and less thing. But I mean, in education, I think we've been hit harder by this than almost everybody. There's a book called The Fall of the Faculty, which makes a really obvious point that until maybe thirty forty years ago, if you went to a college campus, you'd find professors students and coaches. Today, if you go to a college campus, you find a building sized office of diversity, and you know, whatever inclusion belonging you find. I mean, the athletic department has grown until it's a quarter of the campus, multiple stadiums and zombie that's at least defensible. But you also find like the Office of Greek Life admissions, attendance advising, and these were all things that the dean of a department used to do.

38:33 So this was the whole idea of the book bs jobs. That many people no longer provide core services. They do things like make bets on the money that the people who provide core services trade. And yeah, I think that's a problem across fields. Well, yeah, I think you know, you're exactly right. I mean, it has invaded our culture such a way that it is it's acceptable, and nobody's asking the question, you know, does it really work? You see? And this is why I believe Donald Trump is such a disturbance in the force, because Donald Trump is just a common sense business guy that says, hey, I got to get the job done, get all these regulations out of way, get all these things that are not helping us, that are hurting us.

39:16 Just get them out of the way. Well, my goodness, that's a lot of cheese to be moving around, and a lot of angry people are going, wait a minute, you can't move my cheese. You know, I've worked hard and I've got a cushy job here and you're disturbing you know, my piece? Right? Yeah? I mean, I think that the ultimate example of this might be the closing of US AID, which is one of the few things that not for want of trying, and he did a good job, But this is one of the things Elon Musk was really able to notck through in Washington, DC. And every time I read an article about what the people who used to staff US eight are doing, it's presented in a way that's supposed to make you feel really sympathetic and like the times are the post, but it actually makes me wonder why we were paying all these salaries at this level for so long exactly.

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44:16 Hey, we're back with you, Bill Martinez here with the professor and author, doctor Wilford Riley. Anyway, well let's pick it up. What you were talking about, Go ahead, I don't know. I mean, well, we've seen this whole surge of articles about, you know, whither USA and what happened to the people that used to be working there. That's constantly mentioned that only sixty six percent of them have found new jobs. But like every one of the job titles is like you know, doctor Gertrude Alvins was paid two hundred and fifty two thousand dollars per year to supervise the Indigenous Museum of Homosexuality and to pulta Pec, Honduras, just like and I exaggerated that one a little bit, Just like these crazy jobs, and there was not only were there a lot of people in US eight that were supervising these grants to institutions like that one, they're also you realized that a huge chunk of the NNGO network, the non governmental organizational charitable sector, was basically just funded by us.

45:14 Like these people were taking their share of the taxpayer money thirty billion or whatever it was, and they were giving it to this network of institutions that would in no way exist without that subsidy. Exactly with that cut, like a huge number of them are closing, but the same number of useless jobs exist in most fields. Like I liked some of my colleagues in these jobs. Their personable ex fraternity pledge captains. That's how they got back on the campus. But I mean you could really get rid of like Greek life on any university campus, even admissions. Yeah, I mean you could have four faculty members doing our service with a pen and you know a list of test scores. This stuff is the luxury of wealth. I guess to some extent, like when we were rich, when everything was swollen baby boom, we were able to do this.

46:03 We were able to say, well, wouldn't it be great to have five people that just keep an eye on whether anyone tells a body joke at work? And thus was born hr And now as we look at the role of this stuff, there is a question of is it time to cut most of it? Yeah? I mean again, you know, how can you justify it? You know? And where's the bottom line of all this? Are we better off with it or without it? And I guess these are some of the questions that we're asking. We're gonna really ask these questions as that thirty nine trillion dollars of debt, you know, continues to compound and get to the point where you know, we're in serious trouble if we're not already. Will Yeah, I think that's correct. So one of the things that I learned when I got into sort of elite space life, when I wrote a couple of books.

46:53 I mean, it's like that jockey who said, you know, it's hard not to change when you start sleeping silk pajamas. Like as I started meeting meeting some of these people. One of the. Things that I realized is that there's no one that's dramatically smarter than you or me, or another kind of up middle class business person. And as a kid, you think, well, there must be a plan, right. This is where even conspiracy theories come from, the idea that things just can't be as erratic as they look. So we're thirty eight trillion dollars in debt. We can't just to take in the credit card and max that out. It's like you're talking to your wife on a more personal level. But the reality is that that's what we did. I mean, like we really If you talk to guys in DC that are the heads of congressional staffs, they'll just say, well, you know, we had to match the Democrats to some extent or people wouldn't vote for us. And you realize, well, we actually just do old forty trillion dollars, and we really are spending it on things like the Museum of Indigenous Homosexuality, which I guarantee exists. Like I made that up as a joke, but I have one hundred percent guarantee that there is something with almost exactly that name that the US government.

47:57 Or even something more ludicrous than that. That's the sad part. The other thing is is that, you know, again I'm talking to ECON experts and going tell me of the thirty nine trillion dollars in debt, how much of that is not tied to votes? They said, oh, it's all tied to votes, and so in a proportion and inordinate proportion of that money. I still can't get the breakdown, will but I want to find out how much goes to specific parties. Now, my gut says, gives me an indication that is going to a predominant party. And this is part of the this is their operating system, you know, and that's why they're so upset about, you know, the fraud being discovered. You know, I mentioned I'm in California and they got this, you know, this anti Nick Shirley law that they're trying to pass because they don't want anybody you know, checking out, you know, for fraud in the state. They want to make it illegal.

48:53 Yeah. I think it's insane that that either literally and actually or at least informally, it's called the stop Nick shirt. I mean, so congrats to him. I mean, he's inspired a law. But Yeah, there are two things there. One, it's very common for conservatives like my buddy Ran Paul to do this thing where we add up all the money that's spent each year on the museum. I just described or like that study that looked at the effects of cocaine on quails and found that female quails become more social and sexually active on cocaine, which is funny and actually might have some implications. But there's a tendency on the right to list that kind of stuff and say, let's cut all this crap and then the budget will be balanced. When you said, no, most of the money goes into very large programs that are used to buy votes.

49:39 That's the real problem. Yeah, Like the biggest Yeah, the biggest expenses in the United States are Medicaid, welfare. To be fair, Medicare for our seniors, trycare for the military, and half of that you can at least defend. But then you know a series of wick you know, food stamps and the military. Like, that's another thing that we have to acknowledge on the right. That's a trillion dollar budget. So actually cutting the budget would require getting into Medicare, Medicaid, social Security. I didn't even mention by both parties getting into welfare for the left, getting into arms for the right, and actually cutting the massive eighty percent majority of that spend, and everyone's afraid to do that. That's point one. Point two is that when we talk about medicaid medicare, something that's become more relevant recently with mass and especially illegal immigration, is that there's a huge amount of fraud. Like traditionally Americans didn't builk these programs all that much, White and for that matter, atos black Americans just didn't for whatever reason cultural honesty. Right now we're seeing these crazy scams like the Somali thing in Minneapolis. What clue people into that scam, and I'm not making this up for exaggerating it, was that the amount of money spent on kids who were diagnosed as auto histic in a period of maybe a decade went from three million to I believe one hundred and forty four million. And it emerged, yeah, that these large Somali families were simply having every kid diagnosed

51:13 as autistic. If you're a quiet, young male, you can you can get that diagnosis from a quack doctor and they were then eligible for a range of state goodies so one the core of the spending isn't quails doing coke. I don't know how they did it. They don't have nostrils, but pellets or whatever. It's not that, it's the big programs, and the big programs are now being hit by organized often international fraudsters, and we're going to have to tackle both those things to balance the budget. Well exactly, well, you know here it is. Look what happened you say in Minneapolis, eighty thousand somalis as a voting block control the entire state. Will I mean, think about that. And here it is, I mean the tails shaking the dog. And you mentioned Social Security and I was looking into it. The government owes the account over two trillion dollars, will two trillion dollars, and I'm saying, hey, no more pay increases for congressmen and senators. You can get coal adjustments, but no wage increase until this gets healed up. And also I want, you know, some of that tariff money to go into into healing social Security.

52:20 All the money that FBI and CIA collect on these criminal activities and stuff. You know where that money goes, I don't excellently. It goes into their personal account. I mean personal account into their own department account. It's just it's an slush fund. Are you kidding me? You know, the millions of dollars, Throw it, dedicate it. Any of that money that's captured, dedicated, Put it back into Social Security, get it healed again, and give the people a fair chance to you know, invest and do some things that are better than the way the government can do it. I mean, you imagine if you look back, just just in the years that you and I have been on this earth, what we would do if we'd had that money to invest in, you know, in a brokerage account.

53:02 My god, we'd we'd be gazillionaires when we wouldn't be worrying about you know, Social Security going bankrupt in six years. Yeah. Well I've said that before in terms of everything from reparations to an end of governmental fraud. Like if you gave me a million dollars once, I'd be a billionaire within ten years. I mean, like there, I think you probably would as well. So the amount of money that we've spent on the lower end of society, let's say the bottom two deathciles, the amount of money that we've spent dealing with fraud for that matter, the amount of money we've spent hunting down criminals that in many cases could have been kept out of this country. Yeah, like almost anything would be a better use of that if you just gave This has always been my critique of welfare. Actually, like if you just gave that amount of money to citizens once a year, i e. If you took the budget that we have for let's say AFDC, snap, medicaid, which goes to the poor, anything else along those lines, and simply divided it up among the heads of household in America, you could just write everyone a thirty thousand dollars check or maybe a little more, once you got rid of that second level of parasitic bureaucracy.

54:09 Exactly. There's never been any inclination to do that. And I might say one quick thing, that's probably because in do gooder terms, it's not possible. It's not possible because some people would waste the thirty thousand and then appeal to the government and say that they were starving. So the question is what do you do then? Do you restore the old programs? You know, many old kings would have just said, well, let them work or starve, But I don't think we are still at that point where that's going to happen. Now, You're exactly right, because you know, the thing is is we have unfortunately, we've conditioned people to be comfortable and we don't want to see particularly citizens. But yet look what we've got right now in homelessness. I mean, I'm here in LA will seventy thousand homeless people in LA It's heartbreaking, you know, and you're not even talking about the people that you're drug addled, mental issues and everything else. I mean everywhere you go, it's like LA is becoming one big no go zone because it's a safety hazard. You've got to keep your head on a swivel because you don't know who's going to come, you know, from you from a different angle. And you think, man, I'm walking streets I grew up in and now I gotta be careful.

55:22 Yeah, I mean that's absolutely ridiculous. I Mean even Louisville has a homeless population that sometimes estimated it up to ten thousand. I mean that that itself is a city. When you talk about there's seventy thousand people that are bums living outdoors. I mean, like the fourth largest city in Kentucky only has eighty thousand people, So I mean, that's a ridiculous community. Now no, I know LA has three or four million people, but that's still that would mean what two percent of the entire population is living outside in tents. You absolutely can't have that. And a big part of this is the expansion of the idea of rights. So, I mean, we've always said you have a right to worship God as you see fit to arm your but nobody ever said you have a right to live outside a barbecue a dog in front of your your hobo camp. And we gradually over time have expanded things to the point where you arguably, do you know, the police shouldn't search your residence even if it's a box outdoors for example, as an actual legal ruling. So I mean this gets back to kind of the theme of today's episode, which is that we're gonna have to make actual major changes to deal with these problems. Like the solution to homelessness is non voluntary incarceration. You enforce the vagrancy laws three times and then you throw someone in jail if they're saying, or an asylum if they're not.

56:38 And the reason people are reluctant to do that is the way the homeless have been even we're both saying homeless instead of hobo bum people say on housed and see on the right as well. The way that these people have been campaigned for for decades makes everyone at least somewhat sympathetic by nineteen seventy standards, with days in a neighborhood just want to chased everybody out. But when it goes back to your earlier point, it promotes the existence of that bureaucratic class, just like just like what the Southern Poverty Law Center proved to us last week. Right, yeah, no, that's exactly right. Like the people will often use the term homeless industrial complex when they discussed the homeless, And I do want to make one two points about the homeless. One, that group definitely does exist.

57:25 A lot of what we feel we know about everything from the gay community to homeless people comes from organized self pointed spokesman for those communities. So the idea is like gay marriage is exactly like straight marriage, except you've got two males. I'm not sure looking at data on rates of relationship openness and so on, that that's accurate. The homeless are probably the most extreme example of this. Because the presentation is like you yourself are only five paychecks or whatever it is from homelessness, which might be true, like I live in a nice place. If I didn't work for five months, say okay, But the catch with that is that nobody's just not going to work for five months and then not take out alone and then not be able to rely on your girls, family, your friends, from your old areas. So like, in fact, it's very unlikely then I would find myself homeless. I'd have to lose two or three hundred thousand dollars in a row and do nothing the whole time that happened, Like no book royalties coming in. I'm not giving speeches. I refuse blue collar work. So the homeless in practice, wait, I wouldn't like to be out there with a shovel at this fate, but I still not do it. You know, the homeless in practice tend to be people who have very serious issues that prevent that. They're chronic addictive drug users, they're badly mentally ill. If you go out to La, everyone you see that's going to be in those tent camp areas or for that matter, on skid row, ninety percent of those people are going to be visibly hot, like they're gonna be serious problems that you notice. As

58:58 a thirty second anecdote. I was in US season La, right, yes, correct, right, yeah, Okay. I give a speech at USC and I was in LA and I just noticed a guy walking down the street with a baseball bat. I promise you this is true, breaking the windows out of cars, and myself and another guy who was visibly a tourist. He's wearing a shirt that said like Tulsa whatever, their Triple A team is well cross the street and we're like, buddy, you got to stop this. What are you doing? And the guys stopped it, but people were looking at us like we were insane, like we had threatened the local wildlife in a park or something. And I mean people were angry, and it was the wildest thing I've ever seen. I guarantee this is a true story. But that guy and like racially indistinguishable, long haired male and kind of effeminate clothes with a weapon in his hand like that, to me is kind of a symbol of modern American urban living.

59:52 And it's gonna take removing that guy before you get young families downtown and all the other things that Chicago and LA in San Francisco keep complaining about the skid row in San Francisco's in their business district. What a what a story. That's great. And all you did is go, hey, you got to stop that, and he stops. You know, we were bracing the guy, like we were confronting the guy and like you're standing three feet away because he's got a weapon. But like it's it was just how you would It was how I would react to someone in Lexington, Kentucky that had an AX and was just attacking people's trucks, like you gotta I mean, you might have a weaponar you got to just tell the guy to discontinue this behavior. And it was just it seemed to totally shock people. It was something they hadn't seen from like the violent hinter lands. These maga jackasses are attacking a guy who just forgot to take his meds or whatever. The description was. So that that I think is that's metaphorical. What is a sind a coach is an even fancier term that is a representative interrero and like a small bottle of something that's that's much larger, and I think it's important to keep that in mind.

1:00:58 Yeah, good, good point. He's a professor of political science at Kentucky State University of the author of Taboo Ten Facts you can talk about in Li's my liberal teacher taught me, Doctor Wilford Riley, thank you well, take care of you well. Thank you, Bill, thanks for having me on. Streaming TV is where it's at. It's not about cutting the court anymore. That's old news. It's all about your customized TV options with the best and cheapest high speed Internet and your own TV subscriptions. We've got your dream TV lineup between wired and satellite internet and TV. You now have tons of options. Save money and get more internet speed and better TV today by calling the Whole Home. Connect, we scan your location and.

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1:02:21 Bill Martinez live. Hey right now, six minutes after the top. They are Bill Martinez here with Scott Powell. From the Discovery Institute. Hey, mister Scott, how are we doing well? I'm doing really well this week. Yeah, it is terrific. I mean a lot of things going on, positively, some great decisions, great decisions you know from Scovis to get us down the road, and I think it's a time for America to celebrate it. It just reaffirmed that America is no longer a racist nation. Uh and clear added evidence of that was the revelation of the SBLC Southern Poverty Law Center and their Shenan against trying to contrive and lead us to believe that, you know that we're still racist, you know, and still to this day. I mean, I got to tell you, Scott, you know, America has come a long way. You know, we're on the verge of celebrating our two hundred and fiftieth anniversary with that goal that our founding fathers had in terms of moving to a more perfect union, and not that we would ever be, but aspirationally it gives us something to shoot for.

1:03:28 And you know, we've made our mistakes, but we've made some good decisions. And I think that this current decision from the Supreme Court affirms that America is you know, is alive and well not perfect, but we are moving toward that aspirational goal of being a more perfect union. What do you think, Well, I fully agree, you know, the process of redemption for individuals as well as nations, it can be a long and twisted in our joy road. And certainly when we reflect on our history as a nation, you know, we our birth was absolutely extraordinary, that's and but we had to go through a lot of different things, some of which we didn't ask for. We didn't ask for slave traders to visit Jamestown. And uh, you know, in sixteen oh nine, uh or I can't remember if that was the exact date the year, but you know, they introduced you know, black labor as indentured servits. I might add they were sold as slaves, they were indentured service servants. But from that grew a you know, uh, you know, more more trade of that kind, and ultimately, the the Southern economy very much depended upon cheap labor because it was you know, it was it was you know, vast plantations that required a lot of labor.

1:04:54 Anyway, well, and in fact it infected our economic model, you know, to your point here and and I one thing that people really saw it coming in. It's just like, okay, we got a new nation, we've got to make money, we've got to support ourselves, the whole deal, and this comes into play. And maybe there were some commentary back then going, wait a minute, you know, we might be opening up a can of worms here right. Well, certainly the South, if you had to compare the two, you know, the two parts of our country, the North and the South. The South had a stronger Christian tradition amongst the people. Than the North did. So there were a lot of people that were morally uncomfortable with slavery. That's absolutely true. And in fact, you know, only five percent of the people in the South had slaves.

1:05:44 But anyway, let's let's move on to something else. But that's that's the big blemish on our history, and that it seems to always be the you know, the bat that the that the critics of America and really the America haters. It's not just critics right. You and I both recognize that we get better through criticism, and so it's not wrong to criticize our nation. But we have a whole cadre of people living within the United States who hate our country. Right. They hate our country because they don't understand our country, and they may not understand a lot of things they but they make you know, they make governing more difficult. Right, well, of course, because we're not on the same page. And you know, this is about the United States of America, not the Ununited States. But clearly this is the dynamic that's taking place. But I see this victory, this decision by Scotus here, you know, regarding the Louisiana Voting Rights Act, and as a time to celebrate. I think this is one of these benchmark celebrations that America should be coming out and saying Usa, Usa, USA. It's just to me is a huge victory and an affirmation that America is not systemically racist.

1:06:58 Oh no, we're not systemically racist. My goodness. If you've traveled the world, you would one of the things you'd recognize rather quickly is that the United States is much more advanced in attitudes towards race than almost any other nation. Yeah, but the grifters would want us to believe differently, like the SPLC and others you know that have made a living over the decades off of this, And so now what are they going to do? Scott? But I digress. Let's you know, the whole point of this is that there's so much to celebrate as we go back and remember two hundred and fifty years of this nation good, bad, ugly. But here we are today. And you know, and I was talking with a group of other people here recently Scott to say, you know, we could have been born anywhere.

1:07:44 We could have been born in Iran, we could have been is you know, but God chose us to be born here in America for you know, as as the saying says, for a time such as this. And we're so blessed to be in this country, given all that we have, the independence, the freedoms in that. But you know, as Ronald Reagan reminded us, you know, it can slip through our fingers in a matter of a generation. Oh, absolutely absolutely. And we were very close, you know, prior to the re election the second term of Donald Trump, we were pretty close to losing America. I really feel that.

1:08:26 So I agree becausehen you look at the Shenanigans that were taking place, particularly under the Obama administration, and then carried forward under Biden. Biden and his minions. I mean, you know, Joe Biden was questionably I guess, missing in action in many ways, and people took advantage. But still he was the President of the United States. And as they say, you know, the buck stops with the President of the United States, like it or not. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think what what Americans need? You know, we have a great holiday called thanks and that's a day where we actually probably come pretty close to to devoting a day, you know, to reflecting on the very beginning of our country. The Pilgrims arrived in Plymouth, they didn't know, they were ill equipped to deal with what they found there. But fortunately, with God's providence, they had you know, they were friendly Indians living in the neighborhood, and the Indians helped them, and so it was that they could celebrate a first Thanksgiving. Meager though the harvest was.

1:09:33 But really, when you think of America from the bigger perspective, the historical perspective, we are the first nation in all of human history that basically put the locusts of power and authority in the people and recognizing that the people had God given unalienable rights. Some people call them natural rights, but in any case, it was only America that that was founded with this understanding, and of course that came long after the Mayflower and the Pilgrims, that came, you know, the Declaration of Independence, which we were celebrating the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of on July fourth this year. Amazing, but this was this, this was unknown anywhere in the world before right that the people had rights and it was the job of the government to protect those rights.

1:10:29 And the most important rights were of course freedom of speeds, freedom of religion, freedom of assembly, freedom to protest, and then we had other rights articulated in the Pill of rights. I mean, the self defense is a is a natural, God given right. And of course you know when you when you know, when technology takes you to a new level of having gunpowder, then you know that you got you got to give the right of the people to defend themselves with firearms. Exactly right, because that's with responsibility, no doubt. Yes, oh yes, yeah, yeah, exactly what. All these rights are known in America, they're not known in most other nations. Yeah, but we had our you know, we had the starting point of our country, the founding of our country, on these very rights.

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1:15:42 Visit us now at magavitamin dot com and learn how you can get a free bottle with your order, lower your weight and feel more energy at magavitamin dot com. That's magivitamin dot com Nutrition four Patriots. Hey, we're back with you. Bill Martinez here with Scott Palell to senior fellow at the Discovery in his book Rediscovering America. Get your hands on if you don't have it already, shared it with your family. It will remind you again of the things that we're talking about right now. There's so much about this two hundred and fifty years. The Wolf and Wharf is so rich God and through it all we see the hand of God and God's blessings upon this country, which you know, our rise to superpower status was was you know, I guess in a lot of ways you could say was unprecedented. There's been other empires as well, but in the modern era. I mean, what other nation has there been like americaan And like you said, the unique situation was that you had the founding fathers who realized, they said, we're going to unleash the cumulative power of the individual and empower them to be in charge. And look what happened. I mean, this nation exploded, and I mean you look in the first hundred years of its livelihood, you know what we experienced.

1:17:09 And then also the antithical forces to say, how dare you disrupt you know, our model that says there must be a king, raz are some potentate and all of a sudden, you're going to put the power in the hands of the people. That is foreboden, you know, right, yes, And part of the wisdom of the founders And a lot of people underappreciate this, but it is very, very unique in that the founders, being Christians, recognized what we could just simply say is the depraved nature of man. That man is, that man is born with sin, that he has a tendency to abuse. Power. He doesn't always act in a virtuous way, because that's that's been the history of mankind. And they recognized this.

1:17:56 So when they said about a government. This was one of the you know, one of the leading things that they had to deal with, Well, how are we going to create a government that doesn't get corrupted by the people that are running it? Right? And so yeah, because that's a natural inclination. Hence where we are today. By the way, every other government in history always had declined because of corruption, because of abusive power. So our founders were very serious about this matter, and they created a system at the Constitutional Convention that divided power three ways. There was the executive, there's the judiciary, in the legislative.

1:18:36 And then they said, well, how are we going to distribute power in this nation of thirteen states? And some are really small and some are really big. And there was almost a breakdown of the Constitutional Convention because of this conflict between big states and small states. Big states said, hey, we need more power because we have more people. The small states said, yeah, but you're going to snuff out our right, you know, we'll be marginalized. We need you know, we need each equal stature exactly. So out of the wisdom of one of the greats of the Constitutional creation that was Roger Sherman, probably the most devout Christian in the convention. He came from Connecticut. He came up with a great compromise, and that was that the upper House there would be equal representation. Every state would have two senators.

1:19:25 And in the lower House, which is very important because the lower house is where they designed all of the spending of government to originate, the lower house would have representation by population. So this compromise was quite remarkable. We take it for granted. I mean, we see it is the obvious solution, but back then they didn't see it. Well, there was no other model that they could build from. They're doing this from a you know, a plain sheet of paper. Hey let's start a government. Let's all get it together and let's create this new government out of whole claw Scott. I know. And then the third layer of protection is that they really structured a system with you know, quick turnover of elected officials. So if there were Charlottan's or crooks that made their way into political power, you could turn them out of office at least in the legislature, you know, every two years. Right, so the people that originate much of our laws, especially spending laws. Hey, you could clean house every two years if you didn't like what they were doing right. But unfortunately, of course the founders didn't recognize the technology and the ways of man would even corrupt that system.

1:20:37 Like ballot ballot box stuffing. And well yeah, but also this permanent class in the Congress. You know that people don't turn the corrupt people out of office, partially because they refuse to believe it. And and another part is that they're on the take. The people end up getting benefited. They receive the benefits of their corrupt representative. Exactly. I'm sorry to say, well, that's why we're thirty nine trillion dollars in debt. Oh, by the way, Scott today, but you know, another story. But the idea still stands. I mean, this unique system. And so I would say to all the audience that be grateful and express your gratitude by talking among the people you know, your family, all your friends, you know, to really get engaged in the future of America. This two hundred and fiftieth celebration of our heritage is really I call it the beginning, the real beginning of America, the return, the restoration, the rediscovery. And that's why I wrote the book Rediscovering America, which, by the way, remarkably.

1:21:51 I just checked it out. It's rating on Amazon. It's a history book, so they never really become best sellers, but it is in the top one hundred of all history books ever tracked. Wow, Wow, congratulations, that's awesome. Numbers in others. And it's more relevant today than it was when I wrote it four years ago, so it's timeless. So it's a great book, and it's short, it's easy to read. I mean, I've designed it for busy people. So anyway, this you know, the time in which we were living. As we celebrate the two hundred and fiftieth we have to think, well, what are the next two hundred and fifty years going to look like? And we can't know about technology? Who could have who could have predicted AI even five years ago? Yes, right, but it's fundamentally changing our society and we need to be prayerful about those changes. Let me tell you there's these great risks with AI as well as benefits.

1:22:52 Right, well, we have we have gone through a lot of discovery in two hundred and fifty years. I mean, you look back and you see what's happened. You know, we weren't even supposed to make it through the millennium. Remember, our computers were going to explode on us and all the other stuff going on. But look at we are. We're humanoids, miracle walking miracles created by God that he himself on the final Day said, and he looked over his creation, said wow, this is very good. I mean, you know, God himself declared us as being very good. So we have that capacity within us. God's given to be very good. And regardless of the innovation of things, I have faith and hope in God. Number one and number two is creation. That we will rise to the challenge as we've continued to do so, God willing and by his grace and mercy. But that as we do that, we would do that focused on that which is good for all, that is honoring to God and honoring to his creation. If we do that, then you know, for as long as we're supposed to, the preservation of humanity will continue and flourish. And I know that some people are and you look at the signs and you say, okay, I mean even Billy Graham said we're in the last of the last days, and you know he passed away, you know how many years ago now, Scott, it's kind of hard to think that it's been been a while, but you know, and here we are, and we see all the signs that are happening in the Middle East and all these birth pangs, birth pangs to a new

1:24:25 and better creation that God has promised for us. Right, that's right, that's absolutely right, Bill. And you know, I think that all people want to be happy. I mean, you can say, if there's one statement you can make about human beings is that they want to be you know, they want to be at peace, They want happiness in their lives. And so really, what we have in our in our country is a user's manual to arrive at happiness. In terms of governance, you know, we have this amazing constitution that gives us freedom. And you know, but we ourselves and our p personal lives have got to take the user's manual seriously. And that's that's the Bible, that's the scripture, right, and we when we live within the boundaries that God creates for us, we have absolute freedom to pursue almost everything. We don't have the rights to abuse people, to hurt people, you know, but rather we but we are fully free agents to realize to fulfill our dreams and pursue things. Changing careers mid stream are several times in your lifetime, exactly. And we have to take that attitude towards our government that we need to hold them accountable. And those people, those governing people that are not you know, living up to what they to their job, we need to vote and vote them out.

1:25:48 We need to exactly, we need to vote for good people that can lead us into. The future that will ensure you know, another two hundred and fifty years, God willing, if that be the gaze of this great American experiment. We got to leave it there. Scott Pala, Senior Fellow Discovery Institute. Again, his timeless book Rediscovering America is still available. You need to get your hands on it. It will bless you richly. Scott is always thank you so much for being with us. Appreciate it, God bless thank you. Bill. Everything is expensive right now, gas, food, you name it. You're spending more, you are making the same or less money. So what do you do? You rack up credit card debt, That's what you do.

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1:29:56 Of course here would be saying solito Lindo, but you know what I mean, you know, solo Americans feeling confident yet having concerns about aging alone because financially solo Americans feel confident and take a strong sense of accomplishment in managing their money, pushing back against common misconceptions that they are less financially secure or limited in their ability to build well. According to a new research from the American I should say Ameror Prize Financial, yet many single, divorced, and widowed adults have real concerns about aging alone and navigating the long term financial decisions that come with it. Here to tell us more about it, as I mentioned as Deana Heally, she's the vice president of financial Planning and Advice with Ameror Prize Financial. Dina, welcome, Michelle, good to have you with us.

1:30:40 Thank you so much. Bill, appreciate the time today. Well, you know a lot of misperceptions about people who are flying solo. You know, for whatever occurrence, either you know, a decision of their own or something out of their controls suddenly they find themselves on their own. And you know, one of the first things after, you know, especially if a loved one is past in dealing with grief, is that, Okay, what am I going to do? You know, in terms of my financial security? Did you plan ahead of time or is this all of a sudden going to be a real quick reactive process, right. Right, And really, when we embarked on the study, we realized that forty six percent of Americans are single, according to the US Census Bureau, so that's a huge part of our population. The research that we did showed that those who were financially solo, whether they're single, divorced, or widowed, reported that eighty five percent reported that they felt confident in managing their day to day finances and their financial situation, but a similar proportion identified that they had concerns about aging alone and making sure that they were prepared for retirement and prepared for the cost of healthcare and long term care expenses.

1:31:55 Well, in your research, you know, look at some practical things like, you know, having an updated formal will for example. Right, Absolutely, those were some of the gaps that we identified that those. Who are financially solo. Roughly three to four and ten only had a will or a health care proxy or a financial power of attorney. And so those are real steps that you can take today to make sure that you've shored up that particular situation. Similarly, often they didn't have the appropriate insurance strategies to address what might happen in the event of disability or a long term care. Stay, right, and what about savings.

1:32:36 So they did identify, interestingly, two key things. They felt a sense of accomplishment as it related to things like saving for retirement. They called that out loud and clear. They also indicated that they felt a sense of accomplishment that they weren't going to be a financial burden to others, right, But that those same things came out in the concerns that they identified. They wanted to make sure that they were on track for retirement and that they were prepared for the risks that can come from healthcare and long term care expenses. Well, yeah, exactly, because you know the affording of long term care that continues to increase every year, right.

1:33:17 That's right. And so I think one of the things that I recognized in the research is that just because you're financially solo doesn't mean that you have to go it alone. You can reach out to a trusted financial advisor and they can help you understand, first of all, what's important to you about your money, what would you like your retirement to look like, and they can put dollars to that they can help you put together a plan to make sure you're on track for retirement, but also help you find strategies to meet those rising costs of healthcare and long term care. You know, your study indicated that solo adults feel empowered today and they're fairly confident all things considered. But like anything, you know, that's on the surface, but when you start asking the tough questions, and of course I think a big one is it's just a concern of I think most of us we don't want to be a burden to anybody, do we.

1:34:10 That's right. That theme did call out that they were concerned about being a financial burden. Now, the flip side was that many said that. They reported benefits to being financially solo. They said that they were able to make financial decisions perhaps more quickly, there was less conflict about making the financial decisions, and they felt a sense of freedom about how they chose to spend their money. So it really is sort of a tale of confidence and independence as well as concern for their financial future. Well, we're talking abou Dina Healy. She is a certified financial planner. She's a vice president with Financial planning and advice for amor prize financial and we're talking about the revelation of this new research for onton purpose. I mean, it seems very practical, you know. You know, the questions were practic responses, you know, very genuine, and this gives us kind of a guideline, you know, for those who are you know, financially solo what you know, some questions they can ask of themselves.

1:35:11 Right absolutely, And I think that's why it's so important to me, is that we need to be able to understand what are those steps I can take? How can I understand what I want for my future? How can I put a plan in place to meet that. What are some of the legal and insurance protections I might need to have in place so that I'm really prepared and successful in the future. Diana, if you can put up with me for just a moment, I'm gonna I want you to, you know, step through because my brain, you know, and especially our audience. So I whant to help them because you get so much information here and you could help us a long way. Because I believe in good counsel and so I'm going to take advantage of you. If that's okay, please do all right, So what steps let's talk talk specifically, what specific steps can financially solo adults take to building this lasting confidence that we've been talking about.

1:35:59 Yeah, I think I would start with first sitting down and understanding what do you want for your future? Really putting pen to paper. If you will, to say, this is what I'd like my retirement to look like. Paint me a picture of the day you become retired. What would you like to be able to do? Because an advisor can then help you put a plan in place to meet those goals that may be looking at how much are you saving, how are you investing your money, is. It managed appropriately? Managing risk and return, Understanding your particular long term time horizon and your risk tolerance. All of those things go into play while thinking about how I manage taxes around that, and then again the legal and protection strategies that will help mitigate in the event of something bad happening.

1:36:47 Yeah. I like the idea of starting with the end in mind. Absolutely, you know. That's always a great beginning, you know, to start with the end, you know, how do you see yourself? And it will answer those questions and those hesitancies that you may have that you may be insecure about, including you know, not wanting to be a burden you know on someone else, Right. That's right. Like I like to say, if you don't know where you're going, every road will take you there. That to me, right, I mean, that's knowing where you want to. Head, you can really plan appropriately so that you don't become a financial burden on others. That really resonated with those who those respondents in their study, that was really.

1:37:28 Important for them. Any surprises for you. I think one of the key surprises was this notion of independence and intentionality. Three quarters of the respondents said they expected to remain financially solo for the long term, eight and ten said they expected to remain financially solo even if they found themselves in a couple or a partnership in the future. So this notion of like intentionality to stay financially solo, but that doesn't mean you have to go without support, so finding someone who can help you. Those who worked with an advisor reported eighty percent reported feeling more confident about their financial future and having a sense of where they were headed and so making sure that you have that support, someone you can reach out to, bounce ideas off, help.

1:38:19 Think through financial decisions was. Really important to their confidence in how they thought about their future. Indean, I'm sure. Also, this isn't like a one and done kind of deal. I mean, you really want to have a relationship with your financial advisor to where you can do something on an annual basis at least, or if there's some radical change, you know, some alteration and course that you didn't expect caught you by surprise. Always nice to have their number nearby where you've be in contact with them, right. Absolutely. I think the other thing I'd note is that being financially solo also wasn't a one and done. It's something that changes over the course of your life. You may be single in your early twenties and then find yourself married, but then you also might find yourself divorced. You might find yourself in a situation where only one of you can work, and then you also may find yourself widowed.

1:39:08 So having again, having that long term relationship with an advisor can help you navigate all of those changes because it will change over the course of your life. Okay, so as we wrap things up, the first step what's our first step? I think the first step is to think about what's important to you about your money and finding somebody you feel comfortable with to have a trusted relationship with a financial advisor. Well. Danna Heley, the vice president of Financial Planning and Advice for amereor Prize Financial. Where can the folks go for more information? Certainly to learn more, people can go to Amaorprize dot com slash Flying Solo to learn more about our research as well as tips and best practices to make sure you're on track for a strong financial future.

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1:43:39 Thanks John, you heard it. Folks, take advantage of this opportunity and call now. Eight hundred seven four five nine zero nine zero. Advertisement sponsored by Legal Health Center may not be available in all states. Hey, we're back with you. Glad you could join us. Bill Martinez here, and we've got Katie Asher joining us. She's the author of the Book of Heaven, a story of hope for the outcast, the broken, and those who lost faith. Kave you welcome, Michelle. Good to have you with us. Thanks so much for having me. Well, I wanted to talk to you specifically about you know, we're hearing a lot about young gen Z men especially that are attending churches in droves. In fact, I'm here in California from Florida for the last week or so.

1:44:31 I'm going to be here for another week here with my children. I've missed them. I haven't a chance to visit with them for a couple of years, and so I've been making the most of it and my observation and attending church with my youngest son. I was impressed in seeing the amount of young people coming in. But I know that the amazement for a lot of people is that WHOA, it's more men than women. Yes, And I think I actually there are a lot of things about this, this new information, and I think Barnum was the one who was the first like calculating all of this, Is that right? And really I feel like this is leadership. This is men taking back that role of leadership. And it should start with your It should start with the spirit. You don't start with leading about money. You don't start with leading about you know, policies.

1:45:24 You start with the heart. And you have to get the heart right first. So I'm thrilled that men are coming back to the church, coming back to Christ and really longing to find godly women to have a family with. Right well exactly. And I think that, you know a little bit of that you can thank Charlie Kirk for because when he was on the college campus, he was telling these young kids, get married, go have ten kids and so. And it was interesting because I was observing the looks on the faces of some of these kids when they heard that. It was like, gosh, you know, that's right. You know, I really hadn't thought about that in a while. You know, We've they've.

1:46:05 Been fed an entirely different message the entire time they were in school, that getting married was destined to divorce, that you should only do it when you're financially stable, which is when's that gonna ever happen, you know, and that only two children was appropriate and you should never have more because you're going to overpopulate the planet. And the reality is is all the population information, especially out of the communist countries we were and now learning, is completely invalid and that they were lying about the numbers and really the US actually is posed to have a not be able to replace itself by two thousand.

1:46:45 Yeah, in like thirty years. I think they said this, that's that's it. Those are terrifying numbers, but it's a result of the population and the policies and the basically the culture that has created this culture where the only thing that you should live for you right. Yeah, that's that's my observation, Katie is I think that this generation, you know, leading up to Gen Z right now, and maybe they've gone through enough experiences that realizing that selfishness and self centered centeredness is not necessarily the answer. It's the opposite of the answer. It's the problem, right, And these kids are coming out and one of the things that I keep praying the Church doesn't mess this up, because you know what I'm hearing from these kids is they want the truth. Just give me the truth. I don't care how harsh it is.

1:47:40 I just want to know that I want to know who I can trust, because there's so many untrustworthy sources flourishing these days, you know well. And the reality is the church has really shied away from talking about sin and repentance and the call to holiness, and that these are actually the fun mental ways upon which this spiritual battle is waged. That is, our actions, our heart, our thoughts, our faith are actually how the battle. Is one in the spiritual realm. And so it's imperative that the church teach a message that is completely accurate to the Bible and step away from this consumerism, you know, enterprise that they have been you know, leading for some time now, and go back to a community centered, family centered, wholesome small you know, where people know each other, where people have relationships. It's in the relationships that the society, the community, the congregation is formed.

1:48:44 It's not in a theatrical production. And the teaching is what aligns us with all that is true and necessary to be able to battle on in the world and stand for what God stands for exactly. And the thing that I love about the realization of this, Katie, is that we're realizing that it doesn't necessarily require a miracle because this is the way we've been wired, this is the way God wired us. And so when we respond to our natural our natural inclinations and wiring in that sort of thing, there's this sense of peace and this oh wow, why didn't I just why didn't I know about this sooner? Right?

1:49:24 Well, and I've seen I've seen women in my generation because I'm a gen X, right, and we were told that you had to do everything. You had to do all the family stuff and all the all the workplace stuff. You had to be everything to all people, and it is too much. And then we also and then we the men in my generation were taught to just live for yourself, and so one gender held all the responsibility in the other played they were Peter Pan and and what I'm seeing with women in this younger generation not, I know it's not as much as the men. But I have heard people on social media say, I really just want to be at home, I really just want to take care of my kids. I really just want to be a mom. That's actually what I want to be too, is just a mom. And it's great if you want to do something else, but you know, it's it's illogical to disregard the most basic instinct we have, which is to love our.

1:50:22 Children right exactly and love one another. And and the thing is is that, you know, what I also appreciate about what gen Z is doing. Is there really you know, kind of you know, I guess reevaluating the political culture. The political culture has been so manipulative and so mean, I mean to the point that I mean, it really affects the way people look. You know there you can almost tell and I don't know, and you can I don't know, attack me later you want or whatever. But people become caricatures of their thoughts exactly. Okay, Well, thank you for saying that, because you know, it's hard to talk about you and say, you know, when somebody is so you know, just progressive and liberal in the way that they become mean spirited, they don't they look less attractive?

1:51:16 Yeah, I agree, and they I mean, emotion is everything comes from spirit. So of course our spirit is affected by our thoughts, and so whenever we have and then the matter of course affects the spirit or I'm sorry, the spirit affects the matter. That's what I meant said. And so of course that actually has physical changes. It affects us physically, and we've all seen that. We know, people become what you think about. You know, the person who's depressed becomes haggard and bent over and embitter, and the person who is hopeful becomes joyful and light and you see it in them. And that's what we should all long.

1:51:56 For, is to have thoughts and feelings and desires that bring joy and life and love to all the earth. Okay, any understanding why these gen Z men, but in particular are flocking to Catholic churches. Why Catholic churches over Protestant churches. Because yes, absolutely, Protestant churches act like it can say, they're creating a consumer product. It's a theatrical production and you go in there and you consume their theater and there's no way. Actually very performance oriented. And people are flocking to Catholic churches, which I strongly encourage and to actually get back to the substance. They want the substance. They don't care. What you have to understand what pulled people away was that's boring. And then there was like you know, there was just all this disconnect with the actual service. It didn't seem you know, applicable.

1:52:54 So then you had all this life application, right, and that was the whole move. And what happened in all that was church tried to chase culture instead of culture changing church. Right. People are recognizing it. We've got it backwards. We've got to go back to the church. Have church change us, right, we change culture? Right. Yeah, it's like everything has been inverted. You know. We say in the political process that politics should be downstream the culture, and that's flipped. And that's why everybody's so angry because it's the political worldview that is dictating people's perspective today. And it's the same thing, just like you say with church, is that the people need to be downstream the church. If you downstream the church, then you're going to reflect the values of the church, these godly principles that he established that go back to I always say, go back to the beginning and when God created man, after you know, the final accomplishment, you know the ground, you know, the crown jewel of his creation, he says, this is really good, very good.

1:54:03 You know. So you asked why men, and I think the reason why men is because God wants men to be leaders. God wants men to be the spiritual leaders. And so where we're designed. He designed us that way. Yep, exactly. Women will follow when men lead. Yeah. No, I think that's an excellent point, and it might be you know, for some women that might. You know, it's interesting because I've talked with some women that you know, would churn over that concept, but then when they really think about it, they go, you know, I really would want a husband who is godly. You know, we really do, We genuinely like we long for it. And my generation has really you know, they were very a lot of drugs, a lot of chasing money and women, and just hedonism and materialism. And I think the other thing that's happening is people are seeing the end of materialism.

1:54:55 They have seen that the it's run its course, that there's there's now lots of proof that we are more than the material physical world. And so that requires a reckoning that we have a spiritual nature. And if we do, what are you going to do about it? Exactly? Well, that's why I liked what you said about the rediscovery or maybe discovery of holiness, holiness which comes from God. And that's what you're doing. You're tuning yourself up and aligning yourself with godly principles. And when you do that, you realize, oh what a mess, and you know, like the other profits of Old Testament, you know, oh I'm toast, you know, because when you come into the presence of God, you realize how lacking you are. And of course what that does is it leads you to repent, to say, no, I need to I need to live differently.

1:55:43 You know. I had someone who read our book. The first time they contacted me was oh, well, you know, can you tell us about like how does this, you know, have anything to do with UFOs and UAPs? And I said, please read the book and you wrote me this morning, Eddie. Thank you for bringing me to Christ. Amen. Wow. And so that's really what I feel like. There are all these lies and distractions and everything else to try to pull us away from what is truth. And what we have to do is get back to truth. Amen. Katie Asher, author of the Book of Heaven, A story of hope for the outcast, the broken, and those who lost faith. Katie, thank you for being with us.

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