May 6, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 05 06 26

The Bill Martinez Show 05 06 26
The Bill Martinez Show 05 06 26
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Are you ready.

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Yeah, gave us doing Ill Martinas Live, a program about

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current events.

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Our culture, our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Hey, good morning, Welcome back Bill Martinez. Here six minutes

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after the top of the hour, Jeff Dornick is going

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to be joining us. He is a tech CEO, founder

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of the free speech driven platform Pickaxe, and host of

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The Jeff Dornick Show, which only makes sense. Hey, Jeff,

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welcome to show. Good to have you with us.

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Hey, thanks for having me on.

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Well, you know, as I mentioned to you, I flew

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in from Florida. Here in California, my home state, born

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and raised, been in Florida for the last now fifteen years,

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and you know, I'm seeing the shock of the gas

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pump myself. One of my dear friends told me the

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other day that he found himself at a gas station.

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Is desperate. He was on zero. He had to get

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gas and he paid eight fifty a gallon of gas.

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You know, it's bad enough in Florida. I mean, it

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wasn't that long ago we were paying two fifths and

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now it's a little over four dollars. So you know,

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the senior citizens, they are getting a little bit cranky,

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but you know, nonetheless, we figure, well we'll wait it

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out here because it might be worth the investment to

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make sure that Iran doesn't have a nuclear bomb, right.

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Yeah, Well, you know, it's like, you know, I think

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the other day I filled up at almost seven dollars

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a gallon down down here in Orange County, And so

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it's it's absolutely bonkers that that that the prices are

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where it is. And and I think that you know,

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on on one hand, again, yes, when you're talking about

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like national security and all that kind of stuff, you know,

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Trump has to make decisions that he that he's got

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to make and and all of that. Unfortunately, I think

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that we're going to have to be prepared as we're

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heading into the as we're heading into the midterms, on

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how do we overcome these objections where people are literally

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struggling because when when you think about these gas prices

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are are impacting not not more it's more than just

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you know how much it cost to fill up your car,

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but it's also impacting food prices and product prices and

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all that as we're heading into midterms. To me, that's

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it's a little bit concerning on how are the Republicans

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going to overcome that that line of argument when people

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are looking at their bank accounts and like, I don't

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have enough money to keep buying all these things.

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Yeah, no doubt about it. Well, it's still an affordability issue,

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which amazes me because the aff ability issue became an

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issue because of what Biden and the policies of the

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left gave us, and Trump has been trying to dig

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us out. And of course with the big beautiful bill,

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people are realizing now with the tax season, their returns

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are higher than expected, you know, no tax on tips.

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You know, some of these things are offsetting the headwinds

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of these increase in costs that we're dealing with. But

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I think the American people when they're and they seem

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to be understanding this, Jeff, which is good because the

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latest poll is showing, this is from Harvard Harris, that

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the less negative narrative isn't working. Seventy four percent of Americans,

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including sixty percent of self identified Democrats, believe we are

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winning the war. So shocks, you know, for Hakim Jefferies

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and Chuck Schumer, Right.

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Yeah, no, yeah, for sure.

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Well, you know, and I think I think specifically with

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you know, interestingly interestingly enough, I think I think with

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this war in Iran, you know, both both Democrats and

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Republicans have kind of have kind of coalesced around around

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it for whatever reason.

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Again, it's it's still starkly divided.

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There's a certain percentage of Republicans that are opposed to it,

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there's a certain percentage of Democrats that are opposed to it.

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But also the same goes on you know, that are pro,

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that are pro and and that That's been the interesting

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thing about everything and related in relation to the Middle East,

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especially over the last couple of years, is that I

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feel like everything used to always be Democrat versus Republican

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in almost every decision, and then, for whatever reason, you know,

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after October seventh, with what happened with Israel, you began

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to see this splintering of both the Democrat Party and

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the Republican Party into where now, whether you're talking about Israel,

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whether you're talking about Iran, whether you're talking about all

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these kind of like foreign policy issues specifically, it seems

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to be dividing not based upon Democrat or Republican, but

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actually splitting both parties, which has been a really interesting

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dynamic to me.

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Well, the rhetoric out there, and if you're not an

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informed voter, you know, we say on our show all

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the time, own your own knowledge, don't just take our word.

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You know, here Bill and Jeff are having a conversation there.

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You know, we're sending information out to you, things that

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we've researched and discovered. But I say, don't take my

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word for it as gospel. You need to own your

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own knowledge, be a responsible voter and understand what's going on.

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And it seems that more and more, especially the young people, Jeff,

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they they're tired of all the bs and you know,

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and what they want is the truth, the whole truth

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and nothing but and this has been our commitment of

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this radio show from day one.

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Yeah, and it's it's important that you know, you know

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that that's my whole mission with with with Pickaxes is

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to allow differing opinions to come in and let's discuss

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and debate. And I keep trying to reinforce this idea

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on my show on social and all of that.

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Of you.

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When you take an information, don't just look at it

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from does this help my team, does this help my party?

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Does this help you know? My position?

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Take a look at it from the perspective of is

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there truth even is there a grain of truth somewhere

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in there on some argument that argument that's being made,

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and then say, do I need to reevaluate does it

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reinforce my position? Is there an argument that doesn't overcome

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my objections? And let's look at things intellectually, you know,

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honestly when you think about it, I think that that's

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something that's really been lacking as of late. The tribalism,

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I think has been very concerning to me and to

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where you know, what you're seeing as you're seeing a

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lot of the lot of this younger crowd, like what

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you said, where you know, they don't trust that anything

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that comes from the government. I don't trust anything that

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comes out of the government. You know, on every which

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agency you can possibly think of. They've lost our trust.

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They need to earn it back. And I think that

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that's where when we're looking at things, we're like, Okay,

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so you're telling us that you released all the Epstein files,

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but did you really you're telling it that Epstein killed himself,

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but did he really? You're telling this this about nine

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to eleven, And then that then leads to mistrust when

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it comes to the arguments being made about our foreign

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policy and what's going in on our ranch. Should we

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be invading Cuba and overthrowing the government in Cuba? Should

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we be dealing with all these things when our government

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has lost the trust of a certain segment of the

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American people.

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Yeah, well, you're exactly right. And this is what we

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have positive on you know, our show as well, Jeff,

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just like you, is that you've got to pursue the

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truth no matter what it is. And we've lost faith.

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You know, we were saying for the longest time, all

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the three letter agencies within our government are compromised. And

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look what's happening. Of course, we find out Donald Trump

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gets re elected, We're starting to find out all this

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stuff that you know, it's just business as usual that's

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been going on. I mean, look at how long has

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it been since the jfk assassination. We still don't know

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the truth of that, right yep. So it's like, you know,

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there's such a serious mess within the government and here

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we are thirty nine trillion dollars in debt and growing.

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And as I've talked with you know, several financial econ

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experts and say, tell me how much of that thirty

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nine trillion is not tied to vote getting and they said,

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probably every single bit of it. So if that tells

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you it's all about getting votes, then we've lost sight

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of what the clear mission is. The clear mission and

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that I said, and you're saying tribalism, I say, partisan politics,

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this Republican versus Democrat stuff. It can't be that. It's

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got to be you either are for America or you're

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against America. You either for the constitution or against the constitution.

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Forget about the party representation. I mean, I want you,

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I want your diverse viewpoint because, like the old saying says,

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if two people in the room have the same ideas,

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one of us is redundant, none necessary.

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Right, Yeah, Well, you know, and I think that that

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you know, for me, there's two different angles that I

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look at this specifically, is that I don't see things

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happening this in the country now, especially when we're talking

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politics federal government decisions as Democrat versus Republican, because both

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parties are kind of in cahoots with with with each other.

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And I've seen the other side of politics. You know,

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they're you know there you you know, both sides need

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a boogeyman to campaign against to raise money and stay

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in control and all that kind of stuff. So there's

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that components. But but but then on on the on

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the on the on the flip side, it's like, I

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think I've got to I've got a really big concern

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within the Republican Party. Uh specifically where when Trump ran

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this last time around in in in twenty four, Uh,

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it was this big tent party mentality. I mean, you

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brought in Rfk Junior, You're bring in Elon Musk, you

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bring in Tulci Gabbert, and it was like, let's go

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big ten to let's you know, we take the votes

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away from from the Democrats because we're pulling in these

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these sane Democrats that we don't agree on everything, but

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we agree on certain positions and and that that's a

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good thing. Let's unify around what we agree on. But

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then you know, post Trump actually getting into the into

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the office, there's a certain segment of some of the

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most influential, you know, maga conservative influencers that it's like

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there's this purity test and you're not allowed to have

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an opposing opinion, You're not allowed to debate these issues

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or else you get slandered, you get name called, you

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Let's go to quick break. We'll pick it up on

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the other side. More from Jeff after this.

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Hey we're back. When you have Bill Martinez here with

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Jeff Dornick and Jeff, let's go on and now want

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to pick up where we left off, because say, you know,

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this is really key. But that's like in anything when

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you bring a group together. You know, it's like Trump,

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bless his heart in a sense, he's he's like, you know,

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hurting cats here and he's got to pull these guy

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people together. And again that's the job of a CEO.

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As you know, you're always banging the mission drum. Okay,

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keep sight of this. Don't get distracted by all these

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shiny things that are running about or what haking, Jeffries

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is doing, and some of these other podcasters for the

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sake of clickbait and what have you. You know, you

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got to stay on mission, right.

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Yeah, well, you definitely have to stay on mission.

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But I think also that that you know, a lot

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of a lot of those a lot of those show

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hosts that a lot of people accuse of just posting clickbait,

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which I think a lot of them are, you know,

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but but they do represent a certain segment of the

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population that also do hold those viewpoints. And and and

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I think that one of the concerns that I have,

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especially we're heading into midterms where it's so important that

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we are able to hold on to both chambers of

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Congress or else Trump's not going to get anything done.

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But if if we don't bring you know, go back

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to this big tent mentality within the Republican Party, then like,

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are are we going to even have an opportunity to

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win the mid terms? Because if you're just going to say, well,

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you know, clearly, you know, Tucker Carlson and his viewpoints

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are not welcome in the Republican Party, that's going to

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take out a certain segment of of of the voters

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that that would normally vote for Trump. And I think

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that that, to me is one of the concerns with

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the Republican Party seemingly opting this loyalty test to Trump

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and this in this purity test ideologically that you you

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have to agree with every single thing that he does

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within the Republican Party that you know you're going to

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weed out a certain segment of potential voters in a

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very tight race that could directly impact the future of

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our country. Because you know, we're heading up into these

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mid terms. In all reality, there's been very little accomplished

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legislatively by by the Trump administration. Every single thing that

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Trump has done from an executive order standpoint can be

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undone by the next president with just a stroke of

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the pen. And so as we're heading up to these

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midterms and you think about it, if we lose, then

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that's going to be a first sure thing. Nothing is

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going to actually be accomplished long term. We'll have short

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term games, but nothing long term, because we have to

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do this legislatively, and if we don't win here or

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pass some massive legislation between now and the midterms, then

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we're kind of out of luck. When you think about it, well, exactly.

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I give Mike Johnson some credit because he's trying to,

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you know, juggle all the balls here through. And I'm

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disappointed in because I'm you know, the heck with this

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filibuster thing. You know, they try to you know, protected

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like a sacred cow. Well, Harry Reid already disassembled the filibus.

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Supreme Court justices on the court, and so you know,

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it's it's just delaying and interfering with the agenda, and

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they're going to end up finding themselves in the same

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position they were when we were going against Obamacare. Remember

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are we going to repeal and replace it? I know

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people want to blame McCain, but there were other Republicans

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that didn't vote, you know as well, but he was

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the last vote and he didn't a smart Alex stort

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of way. So I lost a lot of respect for

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McCain when he did that, because he had championed the

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cause himself, saying, hey, we needed to repeal and replace it.

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in him. He can champion the cause, and what does

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that neither party truly wants it, especially the Republicans, don't

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actually want to fix problems. They want to put enough

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of a band aid on it in order to go

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back to their constituents and say vote for me again,

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because I'm fighting against the boogeyman, I'm fighting against the left,

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I'm fighting against the Democrats. But in all reality, they

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don't actually want to fix the problems. And I think

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the perfect evidence of this is when Trump first ran

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back in twenty fifteen, the outrage among the established Republican

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class just utterly tried to destroy the guy. Why because

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he came down the escalator. Where As before and all

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the Republicans debates they come out with their sixty eight

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point plan to fix the illegal immigration. It was so

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uber complicated, and I think it was intentional by design,

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so that way they could say, look, it's gonna take

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a long time to fix this.

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He literally goes, we're gonna build a wall and we're

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gonna deport the illegals. It's a pretty basic thing. And

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they're like, well, if he actually does that, then we

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don't we lose that thing that we've been using to

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raise millions and millions and millions of dollars. We can't

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let that happen. And I think that what we're seeing

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now is that you have the legislative branch where they're

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trying to figure out how do we maneuver things in

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a way to where we can go back to our

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constituents and say, hey, we're fighting for you, are fighting

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against the Democrats, but not quite enough to actually fix

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the problems. And that's my concern with with what we're

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dealing with right now is you know, I think I

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think Trump's doing what he can with executive orders, which

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is perfectly fine. I disagree with some, I agree with some,

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but I'm really disappointed in the Republicans not really putting

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forth actual solutions to problems legislatively. It's kind of band

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aids at best.

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look at what happened last week, what we found out

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about the Southern Poverty Law Center, Right, it's the same scenario.

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They don't want to fix the problem because their reason

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to exist for the SBLC is racism. They knew racism

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was starting to fade, so they had to create. Oh,

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let's come up with something else. Oh, white supremacy. So

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you know, it's the same thing. It's how the wheels

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on the bus go round and round, so that you create,

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you know, a problem that's not there that you can

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fundraise off and get re elected. And you know, and

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the scenario goes, I mean, look look at all these Jeff,

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since you and I've been around, since we've been born,

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and we see it, and we go, has it gotten

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better in any in any sector? Can we look at

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it and say the trillions of dollars taxpayer dollars have

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been invested in all these areas, whether it's healthcare, whether

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it's national security or immigration, you know, go on down

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the list. Has it gotten better? No, it's gotten worse.

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So what is wrong with this picture? And now you

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get a guy who's a true CEO, understands how to

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run business, how to fix problems. And what do we got?

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You know, we got all this interference and people, as

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I say, putting stick in the spokes of his wheels

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as he's trying to roll the country into a better place.

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Yeah, and and I think that we also have to

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look at the fact of yes, there's there's there's elected

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officials that that are putting their their you know, stick

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in the in the in the spokes and kind of

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kind of trying to derail it. But there's also people

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directly within within his administration where this is happening too,

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because you know, like when when RFK Junior was running

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for president, I actually got behind him and I was working.

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I was working to you know, promote and working kind

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of in conjunction with their campaign and all that kind

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of stuff. And then you know, I was I was

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working really hard to kind of bring the Kennedy and

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the Trump campaigns together and join forces and all that

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kind of stuff.

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But what What's what's been really interesting?

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And I remember how a conversation with somebody very close

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to him about you know, like should we try to

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combine with Trump and all that, and it was like

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the thing is is that there's there's people within the

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Trump administration that don't want to see you succeed. And

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we're and we're actually seeing that play out right now

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where we were. We know that there's people that are

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severely limiting what RFK Junior can do. When he when

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he was running before it was the m RNA. You know,

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shots should never be allowed, but for whatever reason within

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the within the Trump administration, somebody clearly wants m R

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and A shots pushed forward. Do they have ties with

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Big Pharma? Are they getting paid off? Is look a

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look at Sussee Wiles. Where do you think she came from?

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Exactly exactly what? And I think it was like day

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number two of Trump in office. Remember he was in

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the Oval Office with with Sam Altman and Larry Ellison

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announcing Stargate, which was mr which was trying to use

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m rn A technology with artificial intelligence and order in

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order to not cure cancer but combat cancer. And and

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it was and it was really interesting because you look

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at that and you're like, and again this is where

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I a little bit of my tinfoil you know, hat on.

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But Larry Ellison was started by an investment from the

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CIA's investment firm to start to start Oracle. And a

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lot of people don't realize this, but Stargate was actually

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the name of a CIA program back twenty to thirty

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years ago that that was about remote remote viewing, which

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is interesting because now it seems like they're using technology

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and artificial intelligence to do quote unquote remote viewing using

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m RNA and AI inside the human body. So that

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that was really interesting to me. But clearly somebody in

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the administration is not buying into the MAHA agenda and

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wanting true medical freedom and you know, you know, getting

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the truth out there about vaccines and m RNA technology.

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Clearly somebody is in cahoots. You know, probably you know

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somebody that starts with you know, her first name starts

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with an S. But there's definitely somebody in the Trump

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administration that's severely limiting I would argue probably all of

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the department heads because I've been I've been disappointed in

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the lack of action from from a lot of I agree,

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but they probably also have their hands tied behind their backs.

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you like that job? Thousands of people that you're trying

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to manage, and they all have you know, their secret

482
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you know, decoder rings, and you know their alternate agendas

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and all you're there. I mean, here's a guy who's

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not beholden to you know, all these lobbyists and all

485
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these other interests. He's just trying to do. I believe

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Donald Trump, in my heart of hearts. I believe he's

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just trying to do right for the American people, but

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it's tough getting everybody else in the same you know,

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on the same track.

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Yeah, no, it really is.

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And it's you know, and I think there's another there's

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another you know, bit of evidence too, where it's like

493
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you look at you look at the DJ you look

494
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at the FBI cash hotel, like I've had I've had

495
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cash on my show back before. Obviously he got in

496
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the administration, you know, talking a big game about government

497
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gangsters and the FBI, and he talked to numerous times

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about the f scene files and all this kind of stuff.

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And then that now he gets into office and you know,

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kind of starts sliding us, Oh, there's no black book,

501
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even though he told Glenn Beck, Glenn Beck, it's literally

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on the desk of the FBI director, you know. And

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and then you know the gas lightest about the you

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know Epstein, you know, allegedly killing himself and all and

505
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all of this, and you're and you're like, Okay, clearly

506
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there's there's an there's an agenda here. And you know,

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if you go back, there was a there's a really

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interesting interview with Judge Napolitano where he was where he

509
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was talking about the end of his Trump's first term.

510
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He called up Trump and was like, you know, there's

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one there's one promise that you made that you didn't keep.

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And Trump's like, yeah, tell me what it is and

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I'll and I'll get it done. And Napolitano tells him,

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He's like, you didn't release the Epstein files. You didn't,

515
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You didn't, you didn't release that, you didn't or no,

516
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excuse me, it's the JFK FILESK files.

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Yes, he released fifty yeah, and.

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And but Trump's exact words though, were, if you would

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have seen what's in the JFK files, you wouldn't have

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released it either. And I'm just sitting here like, okay,

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So now they allegedly release all the JFK files and

522
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you're and you're like, there's it's kind of an I

523
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think burger when you actually think about it, Like, so,

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what's actually in there that they haven't released that would

525
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have kept Trump from releasing it in his first term?

526
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Like all of these things are like Okay, clearly there's

527
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things that are happening and maneuverings that are happening behind

528
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the scenes. That are keeping some of these guys from

529
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actually doing what they're leading us to believe that they're

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supposed to do.

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Yeah and threats, Jeff, Yes and threats. Clearly, Well, we

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got to leave it there. Jeff Dornick, host of The

533
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Jeff Dornick Show and founder and CEO of Pickax. Jeff,

534
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great talking to you. Thank you for being with us.

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Take care, have a going.

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Hey, welcome back to America. Bill Martinez here with John's America.

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John.

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How are you going?

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I'm doing well though, Thank you.

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Dang good to have you with us. Lots to catch

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up on, you know, well, let's let's just let's just

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talk about Iran where we start right now. You know,

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it seems that the block eight is working. I just

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I feel for the people they're in a because they

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are totally just you know, they've got to just be

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burning Novina candles and praying to God every day that

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this thing gets done because they are subject to the

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oppression of this regime that is hanging on by a thread.

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Well, one thing that you have to keep in mind

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that people never seem to realize sanctions and bombings, and

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in this case of blockade, while they hurt the regime,

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they hurt the people more, and that sometimes rallies people

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to the regime. Hitler thought he was going to break

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the British spirit by bombing London.

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It had the opposite effect.

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We thought we would get the Germans to overthrow the

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Nazis by bombing their cities.

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It didn't have that effect. It didn't work in Japan either.

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The sanctions we put on in Saddam Hussein in Iraq

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did not bring down the regime.

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It is a very blunt instrument.

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So we have to calculate that even as we weaken

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the regime economically, we are to some degree alienating the

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people of Iran, who are going to blame Yes, they'll

635
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blame the Ragine, but they'll also blame us. So it's

636
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just important to be a realist in foreign policy, to

637
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play chess, not checkers, and think several moves ahead.

638
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Well, and the other thing is that the clock is ticking.

639
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This is a time issue, and the longer people are

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in pain, just like the longer that Americans have to

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pay a dollar more per gasoline. Oh yeah, it's a

642
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:36.759
squeeze all the way around, isn't it. And I think

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that maybe Catholic, Yeah, go ahead.

644
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Trump's regime is in danger if we lose the midterms.

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The Democrats, who I have to reiterate, are worse than

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the Iranian mullets. US Democrats are worse than the regime

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in Iran. They will take over the House of Representatives

648
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and it will be a two year impeachment circus and

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nothing will get done.

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So we are also on a.

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Clock, yes, exactly. Well, and this is what I've been

652
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concerned you and I've discussed this before, and that is

653
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you know, the clock is running, and you know the

654
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American people are not necessarily patient.

655
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No, no they're not.

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And a few positive things have happened in just the

657
00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:24.000
last week, the Supreme Court struck down the racial gerrymandering

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that the Democrats and the squish Republicans have been imposing

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on us for thirty years.

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Maybe this can.

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Counteract the effect of the insane gerrymandering just done in

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Virginia by the CIA's candidate for governor Spanberger, who disenfranchised

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forty seven percent of the state by giving them four

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Democrats districts in one Republican district for a state that's

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almost fifty to fifty between the parties. Exactly what they

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do in Maine and New York and Rhode Island, most

667
00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:02.200
of New England, most Blue states are ruthlessly jerrymandered. Meanwhile,

668
00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:05.920
the Republicans in places like Indiana, they're like ned Flanders

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on The Simpsons.

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You wouldn't want to go down to the enemy's level.

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You can't get down in the good or in fight.

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These people don't care about the lives of their neighbors.

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They don't care about their communities. They don't care about

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the fate of their children and grandchildren. They just want

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to be able to look in the.

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Mirror and say, okally oky, I'm a good person, I'm

677
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a nice Christian Jesus is patty me on the head. Now,

678
00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:31.839
I'm gonna go have my bottle and take a nap.

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The Republicans need to fight. They need to fight hard.

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I'm not gonna say fight dirty. I don't want us

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to break the moral law or the civil law. But

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there's a lot you can do within the law, pushing

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00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:49.720
the boundaries of the law, pushing against public pushing the

684
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boundaries of public opinion.

685
00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:53.039
Meanwhile, we've got John Thuno.

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Supposedly were a conservative Republican from South Dakota, holding up

687
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all Trump's appointees, and just last week he presided over

688
00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:03.039
an most empty chamber where they voted to defund DHS

689
00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:08.039
and ice with Republican Republicans like that, Who needs Democrats?

690
00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:11.480
Right exactly? Well, it's the Republicans. It's like they don't

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realize they're in a war here, and you know, and

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00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:19.440
the Democrats are just having their way with them. And meanwhile,

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you know, policies that need to be enacted to get

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the people out of the pain that were the result

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of democratic, uh you know, democratic votes. I mean, everybody

696
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:32.800
wants to blame Biden. I blame the Democrat. It's the

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whole party.

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And it's a large degree.

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It's it's the Rhino Republicans have.

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Participated.

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Yes, I was talking Erica in Taxis a few days ago.

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You know, I always called the establishing Republicans the Washington generals,

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00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:50.079
whose job it is to go out and lose gracefully

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00:34:50.199 --> 00:34:53.480
to the Harlem globe trotters every single night. The problem

705
00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:56.239
is we're not no longer playing the Harlem globetrotters. We're

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00:34:56.239 --> 00:35:00.480
playing the Black Panthers. We're playing against We're against party,

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a party the Democrats whose leaders call Trump a Nazi,

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they call Ice the Gestapo's, They refer to removing illegal

709
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immigrants as ethnic cleansing. That puts the mind put to

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see idea in people's minds that they can go try

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to kill President Trump and they'll be like Dietrich Bonhoffer

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because they're killing Hitler. Thousands of young, unhinged people have

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had that idea planet in their head.

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You can't have a.

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Secret service strong enough to protect a president in a

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country where two percent, much less five percent, much less

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00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:45.000
thirty percent of the population has let themselves be brainwashing

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and thinking that they're in the middle of Shindler's list,

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and there are trains going.

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To concentration camps.

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None of that is true, but millions of people believe

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it because of reckless figures in the media. We are

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playing against the black panthers, who justified political assassination, who

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celebrate political assassination, who joke that Milania Trump is an

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expectant widow. Yeah, you can't treat these people like ordinary

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neighbors and fellow Americans.

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They are not. They're domestic enemies.

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They are terrorists, terrorist sympathizers, and terrorist promoters. You have

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to treat them the way you would treat a Nazi

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skinhead with a swastika tattooed on his forehead.

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Well, that's why, you know, just as Thomas said that

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progressivism is an anathema to the Constitution. That's right, and

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we're seeing this played out. There's a scene in the

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movie A Great Awakening John that I think is a

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very appropriate right now.

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Wonderful, wonderful new movie still in theaters.

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Right And there's a scene when Whitfield and Menagament Franklin

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are talking and Whitfield doesn't want Benjamin Franklin's grandson to

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leave the room. He wants them to be there and

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hear the conversation. And the point being is that he says,

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the reason that we're doing this, the reason that we're

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putting all on the line, and this is my interpretation,

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my addition to the script, but trying to maintain some

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context here, the reason that we're doing all this is

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because of him. And then they do a shot outside

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the window and these little kids are playing, and he says,

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and because of them.

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That's right.

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That's right, And this is what we are right now,

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00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:33.280
is that America needs to get back into focus why

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00:37:33.679 --> 00:37:36.800
we are fighting for liberty and freedom and for this

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great American idea right the next generation.

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Whereas too many Republicans John Cornyn types, John Thune types,

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they just want the next twenty years of their lives

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to be peaceful and comfortable. They don't want their wife

756
00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:52.840
to get the stink eye at the country club, they

757
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don't want to be blackballed at a golf tournament. They

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don't want people yelling in their faces at restaurants, and

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the Democrats.

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Are willing to do that. The Democrats have.

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Found Our weak point is that we still think we're

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living in nineteen fifty where the Democrats are like Hubert Humphrey.

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They're not the Democrats now are more like Angela Davis

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and Hughey Newton and Bill Ayres, the weather underground terrorist

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who ghost wrote Barack Obama's memoir that if that doesn't

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tell you that the Democrats have embraced their most fringe

767
00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:34.719
element and to them it's a strength. Also, anybody who

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gets out of line is immediately turned on and destroyed.

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Barney Frank Long, the most liberal member of Congress, the

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first openly gay congressman. He have got a gay marriage.

771
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He's now in hospice at the end of his life.

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People should pray for him. He's calling out the Democrats

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are having gone completely insane for acting like Third world radicals,

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for acting like members of the PLO or Hamas.

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But of course they embrace the PLO in Hamas and.

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They turn against Israel just because it's a Western country,

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and they've internalized this hatred of Western civilization. I think

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because they associated with Christianity, and it's all part of it.

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To move, no doubt, bellion against God.

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No doubt, got to go to break. We got more

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from John on the other side. Stay with us.

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to your point, I mean, this is really what it

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comes down to. And I think it's really hard for

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people on the right to discern this, but it's critical

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to discern that this is the age old battle that's

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been going on from day one, since the Garden of Eden.

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This is a battle between good and evil. It's really

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that black and white. And I know for some people

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they kind of, you know, they get a little stiff

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and think, oh, Bill, do you have to be so No,

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you got to call it for what it is, because

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as you look at the fruit of the tree and

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what they're doing, I mean, it's just like even the

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situation in California. I don't know if you saw this

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or not, Nick Shirley, who's been doing a great job,

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I mean, a great expose in Minneapolis. And of course

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now you got the governor trying to take credit for it,

881
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which is, you know, expose it.

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Let's be clear, exposing Medicare, Medicaid fraud by Somali immigrants

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enabled by corrupt democrats exactly.

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Well, now California says, h we're not going to have this.

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They're trying to pass legislation to make it illegal for

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a whistleblower like Nick Shirley to come to town and say, hey,

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you got a problem. Here's all this fraud.

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Remember, California spent ten years trying to imprison David Delight. Delight,

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you're doing undercover investigation that revealed the Planned parenthood with

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selling baby parts for profit and the violation of federal law.

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Not only did they not prosecute Planned Parenthood, they prosecut

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the reporter who exposed it.

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He only just.

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Now a few weeks ago, finally had the charges drop.

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That's called warfare where.

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Even if they can't convict you, even if they can't

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win in court, they grind you down and try to

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destroy your life.

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Yeah. I think David spent over four hundred thousand when

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I talked to him, and so this is a number

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of years ago. It's probably well over you know, a

902
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half million dollars he's been paying, you know, through crowdfunding

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and other issues, you know, for his defense. Remember who

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the ag was at the time.

905
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Who was it, Kamala Harris, who was a huge beneficiary

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of Planned Parenthood campaign funds. It could not be more

907
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corrupt if it were the Mexican drug cartel.

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Yeah.

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And there's a.

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Reason that the Communists and the Nazis and the drug

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cartels and the radical left all work from the same playbook,

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because it's all from the same source. It is from

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the devil, it is from evil spirits, It is from

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the spirit of rebellion against God and his creation. Alexander

915
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Soljanitsen said, the line between good and evil doesn't run

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between political parties, it runs through every human Being's heard,

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so any of us is capable of evil, and we're

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00:46:17.519 --> 00:46:19.960
seeing some evil on the right in Candas Owen and

919
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Tucker Carlson demonizing Israel and inventing fanciful conspiracy theories and

920
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helping the left to win so that they can try

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to seize control of the right. Of course, that's what

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the established and Republicans, the never Trumpers were doing. They

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would rather the Democrats win so they can get control

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of the Republican Party back and turn it into the

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country Club money printing machine that it was under Mitt Romney,

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Paul Ryan and all those other utterly worthless hacks.

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Well, John, the clock is running. Don Trump's agenda is

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still on the table. The likes of John Thune and

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others are not really championing the cause to make things

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happen here. The clock's all also running with our with

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a war in Iran and call it for what it is.

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Let me point to some positive news. Yes, Donald Trump

933
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is talking about pulling US troops out of Germany. He's

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talking about a ceasefire in Ukraine.

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Both of those things would be so wonderful.

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Frankly, our involvement in NATO, it's just an anchor around

937
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our Next, the NATO countries are not pro American, they

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are anti Israel. They are increasingly authoritarian. Every day dozens

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of people at least a dozen people are arrested in

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Britain for criticizing immigration on the on the internet.

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They go to jail.

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Meanwhile, rapist Pakistani rape gangs still dominate British cities and

943
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victimize thousands of young girls, and the police cover it

944
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up because they.

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Don't want to be a cold racist. Hey, it will

946
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be cold racist. We'll just let the rape.

947
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A rapist is better than a racist in the eyes

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of the British government. I just last week saw the

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wonderful Tommy Robinson. He's a British patriot who has been

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exposing the rape gangs, the immigrant rape gangs all across Britain,

951
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and the government has repeatedly jailed him on false charges

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of terrorism. He created this amazing TV series that you

953
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can watch on YouTube, The Rape of Britain. I encourage

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everyone to get hold of the Rape of Britain on YouTube.

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It's amazing. It's on YouTube and it exposes how the

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left in Britain relies on organized Muslim votes of recent immigrants,

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most of them on welfare, some of them with four

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wives and twenty children, all on the dole. The active

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who wants Sharia in Britain. The British Left, which claims

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to be for liberalism and equal rights for gays and

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trans and all that, it's cooperating with bigots from the

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Muslim Brotherhood who think gays should be thrown off a

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bill just out of cynical political calculation because they need

964
00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:09.239
those immigrant votes. The Democrats in the US are doing

965
00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:12.760
the same thing with illegal immigrants whom Biden smuggled into

966
00:49:12.760 --> 00:49:13.320
the country.

967
00:49:13.679 --> 00:49:16.119
Exactly, maybe King Charles should have gone to Minneapolis.

968
00:49:16.199 --> 00:49:19.079
What do you think it would be more familiar, He

969
00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:21.639
would feel more at home because it would be another

970
00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:25.800
once great Western city now turned into a Third World

971
00:49:25.880 --> 00:49:29.800
hellhole by importing the Third World on moss with no

972
00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:33.440
plans to assimilate them. In fact, they plan to assimilate

973
00:49:33.639 --> 00:49:34.920
us to them.

974
00:49:35.239 --> 00:49:35.960
That's why they.

975
00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:38.639
Changed the flag of the state of Minnesota to look

976
00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:41.800
like the flag of Somalia. Again, this is like something

977
00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:45.800
some crackpot klansmen living in a double wide would have

978
00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:49.119
written on a sink, typed up single space and self

979
00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:53.039
published as an apocalyptic novel and sold it at gun shows.

980
00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:58.559
In fact, the reality is worse than any apocalyptic novel.

981
00:49:58.599 --> 00:50:01.320
But I wanted to do want to recommend an apocalyptic novel.

982
00:50:01.599 --> 00:50:04.039
This novel is a novel called Camp of the Saints.

983
00:50:04.320 --> 00:50:07.079
It was written in nineteen seventy three and it predicted

984
00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:11.760
the destruction of the West by immigration. Amazon just tried

985
00:50:11.800 --> 00:50:13.800
to ban it and there was such a backlash that

986
00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:16.599
they had to bring it back. And now it's like

987
00:50:16.719 --> 00:50:19.400
the number six book in America. Get hold of the

988
00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:21.119
Camp of the Saints if you ever, if you know

989
00:50:21.199 --> 00:50:26.199
someone who's squishy on immigration, squishy on multiculturalism, who thinks

990
00:50:26.360 --> 00:50:31.920
Islam is just unitarianism with hummus, get that person the

991
00:50:31.960 --> 00:50:35.320
book the Camp of the Saints gets, strap them down

992
00:50:35.400 --> 00:50:38.440
and read it to them. This is a this is

993
00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:42.639
nineteen seventy three. He predicted the Muslim takeover of Europe.

994
00:50:43.199 --> 00:50:45.440
Everybody thought he was crazy. I read it in nineteen

995
00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:48.639
seventy eight when it was translated into English, and it

996
00:50:48.719 --> 00:50:53.760
inoculated me against neo conservatism and the never trumpers and

997
00:50:54.159 --> 00:50:59.239
the squishy open borders humanitarian all the claptrap you get

998
00:50:59.280 --> 00:51:02.079
from evil organizations like Catholic charities.

999
00:51:02.119 --> 00:51:04.199
Catholic charities sound so nice.

1000
00:51:04.400 --> 00:51:08.719
In fact, it's a government effectively, a government funded agency

1001
00:51:09.039 --> 00:51:12.440
that makes millions of dollars bringing illegals into America.

1002
00:51:12.679 --> 00:51:15.760
It's become a money laundering service for the government and

1003
00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:19.800
all these elected officials. John, that's right, that all that

1004
00:51:20.119 --> 00:51:22.840
NGO money and everything like that. I mean, here we are,

1005
00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:25.760
thirty nine trillion dollars in debt, Social Security about to

1006
00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:28.679
go bankrupt, and I'm saying, look it, we need to

1007
00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:32.960
ban just seniors all, you know, all the seniors together.

1008
00:51:33.159 --> 00:51:36.840
I mean, it only took eighty thousand Somalies to take over,

1009
00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:40.719
to take over Minnesota. I mean, I think we got

1010
00:51:40.760 --> 00:51:43.960
five eight million seniors to say, look at government, you know,

1011
00:51:44.079 --> 00:51:46.679
pay up, sucker, you owe us money. They owe us

1012
00:51:46.719 --> 00:51:50.239
over two trillion dollars that they borrowed, and I'm sure

1013
00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:52.880
their interest rate is conveniently low. John.

1014
00:51:53.320 --> 00:51:54.519
Yeah.

1015
00:51:54.559 --> 00:51:58.119
Well, but again, I'd love to see the US out

1016
00:51:58.159 --> 00:52:00.639
of NATO, US troops out of Germany. I'd love to

1017
00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:02.960
see an end to this pointless war in Ukraine, a

1018
00:52:03.039 --> 00:52:06.679
war about nothing that was essentially started by our CIA

1019
00:52:06.960 --> 00:52:11.199
overthrowing the Ukrainian government and installing CIA puppets. And it's

1020
00:52:11.239 --> 00:52:15.039
been a puppets ever since. And the Ukrainian government actually

1021
00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:19.239
cooperated with the Democrats and James Comy in the Russia

1022
00:52:19.239 --> 00:52:23.360
collusion hoax. So the Ukrainian government tried a coup d'etats

1023
00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:26.760
against the United States when Donald Trump was president. I

1024
00:52:26.800 --> 00:52:29.840
don't care what happens to Ukraine. Russia can have the

1025
00:52:29.920 --> 00:52:33.039
place it deserves it for trying to overthrow my government.

1026
00:52:33.519 --> 00:52:38.079
Right, speaking of Komy indicted once again, huh, yeah, I

1027
00:52:38.440 --> 00:52:39.519
want to see some arrests.

1028
00:52:39.559 --> 00:52:39.719
Though.

1029
00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:44.760
Yes, we saw the Southern Poverty Law Center, the Poverty

1030
00:52:44.760 --> 00:52:48.599
Palaces they call it locally, was indicted for funding the

1031
00:52:48.679 --> 00:52:53.079
klu Klux Klan, funding Neo Nazis organizing the Charlottesville rally

1032
00:52:53.280 --> 00:52:55.960
that had then denounced and fund rows.

1033
00:52:55.920 --> 00:52:58.480
Raised off it and blamed and blamed Trump, right.

1034
00:52:58.639 --> 00:52:59.360
Blame Trump.

1035
00:53:00.719 --> 00:53:02.880
I'm glad to see indictments. I want to see arrests.

1036
00:53:02.920 --> 00:53:05.519
I want to see people held without bail in the

1037
00:53:05.599 --> 00:53:09.480
general population, in with the felons, in with the illegals

1038
00:53:09.480 --> 00:53:12.360
who they spend spend their time pretending to advocate for.

1039
00:53:13.360 --> 00:53:17.519
I want to see them really feel in a direct, personalistical,

1040
00:53:17.679 --> 00:53:21.039
physical way. What it's the kind of chaos that they're

1041
00:53:21.079 --> 00:53:22.639
bringing to our country.

1042
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:24.280
Right, the kind of chaos that they put on the

1043
00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:26.880
Jen six ers, that's a whole other topic. You know,

1044
00:53:26.960 --> 00:53:31.519
the thing that exasperates me even further on this, John,

1045
00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:36.599
is that you see the SPLC saw their irrelevance growing,

1046
00:53:36.920 --> 00:53:39.960
and so they had to create this conflict, right, it

1047
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:42.320
was all manufactured and of course and then of course

1048
00:53:42.360 --> 00:53:44.480
the top are on it is is now we get

1049
00:53:44.480 --> 00:53:48.239
the Scotus decision right pretty much just saying, you know, racism,

1050
00:53:49.039 --> 00:53:54.320
you know, not saying that systemic racism is no longer

1051
00:53:54.440 --> 00:53:56.239
a valid issue in this se.

1052
00:53:56.079 --> 00:53:58.880
It has not existed since the Civil Rights Act. I

1053
00:53:58.920 --> 00:54:01.639
mean its been it has been ad ever since, just

1054
00:54:01.719 --> 00:54:05.679
a way for white Democrats to get black votes and

1055
00:54:06.159 --> 00:54:10.079
black corrupt black politicians to get guaranteed seats in Congress

1056
00:54:10.440 --> 00:54:12.519
so that they can get up and rant and rave

1057
00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:16.559
about how America is still a slave society and every

1058
00:54:16.599 --> 00:54:20.679
institution that's not doesn't have equal representation of the races,

1059
00:54:20.920 --> 00:54:24.400
is somehow intrinsically racist. So we need the government to

1060
00:54:24.519 --> 00:54:28.400
micromanage every hiring decision, every firing decision in the country.

1061
00:54:28.800 --> 00:54:31.320
I mean, it is just staggering.

1062
00:54:31.400 --> 00:54:36.159
A Republican states need to aggressively redistrict They need to

1063
00:54:36.199 --> 00:54:40.519
tear up those racially Geramanda districts before the midterms exactly

1064
00:54:40.559 --> 00:54:42.480
to hold onto Congress.

1065
00:54:42.119 --> 00:54:45.360
Right without it? Yeah, otherwise you know what happens. Everything

1066
00:54:45.360 --> 00:54:48.159
comes to a screeching halt, and it's impeachment city on

1067
00:54:48.199 --> 00:54:48.519
the hill.

1068
00:54:48.960 --> 00:54:50.880
That's right, it will be a joke now.

1069
00:54:50.920 --> 00:54:55.480
Without a doubt. Well, doctor John's America always appreciate, appreciate

1070
00:54:55.519 --> 00:54:59.199
the inside again. You you want to remind everybody about

1071
00:54:59.199 --> 00:54:59.800
Oh yeah, I want to.

1072
00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:04.599
There's a great movie called The Theory of Everything that

1073
00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:07.760
just oh no, I'm sorry. The story the Story of

1074
00:55:07.800 --> 00:55:10.239
Everything right, it just came out and it is a

1075
00:55:10.320 --> 00:55:17.719
beautiful assertion of intelligent design, proof that Darwinian materialism scientific

1076
00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:21.239
atheism are just being destroyed by the evidence that the

1077
00:55:21.360 --> 00:55:22.519
universe was created.

1078
00:55:22.920 --> 00:55:24.679
Well, what I love about it, John, You know, because

1079
00:55:24.679 --> 00:55:28.119
you get people that are wired scientifically right, they've got

1080
00:55:28.159 --> 00:55:32.440
to see it through a scientific worldview. This will comfort

1081
00:55:32.480 --> 00:55:35.480
them greatly, or maybe it just might motivate them enough

1082
00:55:35.519 --> 00:55:38.119
to really alter their worldview.

1083
00:55:38.360 --> 00:55:41.679
Bring your team, bring your teenagers, bring your college student kids.

1084
00:55:42.079 --> 00:55:46.760
This will help inoculate them against the madness that's being

1085
00:55:47.039 --> 00:55:48.760
drummed in their heads on campus.

1086
00:55:48.800 --> 00:55:52.159
Without a doubt. He is the author of No Second Amendment,

1087
00:55:52.199 --> 00:55:55.400
No First, The Politically Incorrect Guide to Catholicism, along with

1088
00:55:55.519 --> 00:55:58.320
many other books. Doctor John Zameric, Thank you John, taking

1089
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care care bless you.

1090
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That's eight hundred four three nine fifteen eighty eight.

1108
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Getting America back on track.

1109
00:57:07.719 --> 00:57:09.119
Bill Martinez live.

1110
00:57:10.280 --> 00:57:11.920
Hey right now, six minutes off to the top of

1111
00:57:11.920 --> 00:57:14.800
the hour. Bill Martinez here, and we've got Cynthia Scott

1112
00:57:14.880 --> 00:57:17.280
joining us, author of the book Celebrating God, Our Founder

1113
00:57:17.320 --> 00:57:21.440
at America's two hundred and fiftieth Birthday. Cynthia, welcome show.

1114
00:57:21.480 --> 00:57:22.719
Good to have you with us.

1115
00:57:22.760 --> 00:57:23.719
So great to be here.

1116
00:57:23.800 --> 00:57:26.760
Bill, Well, so much about this book, I mean, talk

1117
00:57:26.760 --> 00:57:29.519
about the time of this. I imagine you probably going, well,

1118
00:57:29.559 --> 00:57:31.840
thank you God. I mean, we got all this. We've

1119
00:57:31.880 --> 00:57:34.239
got a National Day of Prayer comings just around the corner,

1120
00:57:34.280 --> 00:57:37.239
which I love every year. But there's something I think

1121
00:57:37.360 --> 00:57:39.920
this year that is going to be really special about

1122
00:57:39.920 --> 00:57:43.599
this as it kind of takes us into the two

1123
00:57:43.719 --> 00:57:47.440
hundred and fiftieth birthday of our country that only happened

1124
00:57:47.480 --> 00:57:51.519
because God decided to answer some prayers from some pilgrims

1125
00:57:51.559 --> 00:57:53.320
that just wouldn't let up for about twelve years.

1126
00:57:53.400 --> 00:57:57.320
Right, That's exactly right, and many people after them too, Bill.

1127
00:57:58.280 --> 00:58:01.880
The whole history of faithful Christians really crying out to

1128
00:58:01.920 --> 00:58:03.079
God on behalf of this nation.

1129
00:58:03.719 --> 00:58:06.920
Yeah. And the thing is is that the faithful Christians

1130
00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:11.159
must understand that, you know, as the Bible says, the

1131
00:58:11.199 --> 00:58:15.320
gates of Hell suffer violence. It's not a cakewalk. You know,

1132
00:58:15.559 --> 00:58:18.920
when you signed up and you said, yes, Lord, hey,

1133
00:58:19.239 --> 00:58:21.079
you know, welcome to the army of God.

1134
00:58:21.199 --> 00:58:25.760
Right, that's right, that's exactly right. And there is I mean,

1135
00:58:25.800 --> 00:58:28.280
there's a reason why God says things. I put on

1136
00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:31.320
the armor of God because it's not going to be easy.

1137
00:58:31.679 --> 00:58:35.320
Life on this side isn't easy, but it certainly is exciting.

1138
00:58:35.519 --> 00:58:38.559
And it's really exciting when we see what God is

1139
00:58:38.599 --> 00:58:41.840
doing in the midst of our nation, of our people,

1140
00:58:42.320 --> 00:58:44.559
and He works in the midst of the messiness and

1141
00:58:44.599 --> 00:58:48.199
the difficulty and the trials and the tribulations to really

1142
00:58:48.480 --> 00:58:51.440
forge something. And He really forged our nation.

1143
00:58:52.320 --> 00:58:55.920
Cindy. You know, in my discussions with people, what I

1144
00:58:55.960 --> 00:58:59.320
have discovered is that they've lost a sense of mission,

1145
00:59:00.239 --> 00:59:04.039
a sense of focus. And what I'm appreciating about this

1146
00:59:04.039 --> 00:59:05.719
opportunity to talk with you is that maybe we can

1147
00:59:05.719 --> 00:59:09.320
bring that focus, you know, back into clarity for everybody

1148
00:59:09.360 --> 00:59:11.920
to say, Hey, this is what it's all about. It's

1149
00:59:11.960 --> 00:59:15.039
not just you know, having a bigger car or bigger

1150
00:59:15.079 --> 00:59:18.039
house and all this sort of thing. No, it's about

1151
00:59:18.119 --> 00:59:22.079
the continuation of the ministry of God through Jesus Christ

1152
00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:23.239
in the Holy Spirit.

1153
00:59:23.039 --> 00:59:27.039
Right absolutely. And you know the Bible says in the

1154
00:59:27.039 --> 00:59:29.199
Book of Esther, you know you were born for such

1155
00:59:29.199 --> 00:59:32.480
a time as this. That is not just for Esther,

1156
00:59:33.000 --> 00:59:35.960
that's for every one of us. And I think we

1157
00:59:36.079 --> 00:59:38.719
need to stop and really look at the moment in

1158
00:59:38.760 --> 00:59:42.639
which we're living. We were born for this moment, exactly

1159
00:59:42.880 --> 00:59:46.199
exciting moment. It is a moment where there's there is

1160
00:59:46.239 --> 00:59:49.519
a lot of division in our country, a lot of stress.

1161
00:59:49.639 --> 00:59:53.679
As my daughter said to me recently that she knows

1162
00:59:53.719 --> 00:59:57.679
a lot of people that live with existential dread because

1163
00:59:57.960 --> 01:00:00.000
all the things that are going on across the world.

1164
01:00:00.199 --> 01:00:01.960
And she had read the book when it came out

1165
01:00:02.000 --> 01:00:04.679
back in December, but she recently listened to the audiobook

1166
01:00:04.840 --> 01:00:07.159
and she said, Mom, your book gave me hope to

1167
01:00:07.239 --> 01:00:10.760
know that God has been with this nation from the beginning,

1168
01:00:11.199 --> 01:00:14.800
shaping it through the difficult times, and bringing forth something

1169
01:00:14.800 --> 01:00:18.039
that the world has never seen before. Freedom. And so

1170
01:00:18.159 --> 01:00:20.159
we have been We've been born for this moment and

1171
01:00:20.159 --> 01:00:21.079
we need to step into it.

1172
01:00:21.119 --> 01:00:24.679
Bill, No, I agree. I think it's an absolute blessing.

1173
01:00:24.679 --> 01:00:27.280
There's no question. You know, it's kind of like, you

1174
01:00:27.320 --> 01:00:29.840
know what Jesus said to the disciples that do you

1175
01:00:29.920 --> 01:00:33.280
realize how many prophets and you know, in history wanted

1176
01:00:33.320 --> 01:00:35.760
to be here at this time, And here we are,

1177
01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:39.679
fast forward some twenty five hundred years and it's us.

1178
01:00:40.119 --> 01:00:44.639
We're here, Yes, And it's not an accident. And to

1179
01:00:44.719 --> 01:00:47.960
your viewers, their lives are not an accident. God has

1180
01:00:48.000 --> 01:00:50.480
placed them where they are in this moment of history

1181
01:00:50.760 --> 01:00:54.559
to do his work to bring about His kingdom in

1182
01:00:54.679 --> 01:00:57.280
our nation. And yes, there's a battle for it, but

1183
01:00:57.320 --> 01:00:59.639
there was always a battle for it. The fact that

1184
01:00:59.639 --> 01:01:02.079
there's a battle and you're an ex marine, I.

1185
01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:04.559
Think, right, yeah, we say for we say former marine,

1186
01:01:04.800 --> 01:01:06.199
I don't want I don't I don't want you. I

1187
01:01:06.199 --> 01:01:07.360
don't want you to get in trouble.

1188
01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:14.960
And I'm sorry about that. A former marine in very

1189
01:01:14.960 --> 01:01:19.199
good standing, let me add. And and life has never

1190
01:01:19.239 --> 01:01:21.800
been easy. It's not easy for us personally. It's been

1191
01:01:21.840 --> 01:01:24.599
a battle in our country and we have got to

1192
01:01:24.760 --> 01:01:26.840
rise to the moment. And I don't believe we can

1193
01:01:26.920 --> 01:01:30.840
do that unless we remember who we are and whose

1194
01:01:30.880 --> 01:01:33.320
we are. That it's been God who's been in the

1195
01:01:33.360 --> 01:01:37.039
center of forming our nation and faithful Christians who stood

1196
01:01:37.039 --> 01:01:40.119
for what is right, who stood for freedom? Who who

1197
01:01:40.159 --> 01:01:43.760
really gave us a legacy of the freedoms that we experience.

1198
01:01:43.800 --> 01:01:45.840
And you know, when we all went through COVID and

1199
01:01:45.880 --> 01:01:48.840
we saw a lot of censorship, I never thought about

1200
01:01:48.960 --> 01:01:52.039
that we could possibly lose our freedom. But that was

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a wake up call for me. And that's actually when

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the prayers in my book were written. You know, my

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01:01:57.880 --> 01:02:00.719
book is, as you know, both history of God's hand

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01:02:00.719 --> 01:02:03.960
on America and prayer for the nation in every chapter

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01:02:04.320 --> 01:02:07.280
to engage the reader with the God who formed our nation.

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01:02:07.639 --> 01:02:11.639
He's still actively at work in our nation in their lives.

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But it was during COVID that it really dawned on me.

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While we live in a in a legacy of those

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who went before us, who were faithful, we live in

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the wake of their blessing and God's blessing on them,

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and we don't want to lose that, and we don't

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want our children and grandchildren to lose that blessing of freedom.

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So it's our turn.

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No, exactly, And as Ron Reagan said, all it takes

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is one generation and we and we're very we were

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very close, I believe, And it's interesting right now again,

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at this point in time, the things that are happening,

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the awakening that's taking place, you know, and I keep

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referring it to as bonfires of revival that's taking place,

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and of course that's being by A key to revival

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is repentance. You have got to align, and you've got

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to meditate and consider, okay, where I am in alignment

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01:03:11.199 --> 01:03:14.920
with God's purpose in God's Word and throughout the history

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01:03:15.199 --> 01:03:18.639
of Christianity, you get those moments where people say, wait

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a minute, we're missing the mark here. Let's go back

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to what you know, Like you said in the beginning,

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this has been the theme of mine for the last

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couple of years. I keep telling everybody. In the beginning, yes,

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in the beginning, we go to Genesis, in the beginning

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of the country. Let's go back, you know, to to

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Plymouth Rock. Let's go back to you know, George Whitfield

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and Benjamin Franklin and the rich history that you know

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made this country. And as you said, even then, there

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wasn't one hundred percent agreement on.

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This, no.

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And you know, sometimes we look at history, we read

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the books, we look at the beautiful paintings, and it

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seems like it was just easy. They just flowed through it,

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and nothing could be further from the truth. People gave

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up their lives and their fortunes, and their family and

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01:04:00.360 --> 01:04:03.039
their lands to fight for the freedom that we have.

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And God was in the midst of that struggle, you know,

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01:04:06.760 --> 01:04:09.719
forging this nation. And we are so blessed, and we

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need to give thanks for that. We need to remember

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01:04:12.519 --> 01:04:14.360
God at this two hundred and fiftieth birthday. You know,

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01:04:14.360 --> 01:04:16.559
when I wrote the prayers. I wrote the prayers back

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during COVID. We prayed them in congregational prayer meetings at

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my church. My pastor and I led them, and then

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they sat in my computer for about five years until

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God opened the door for this book to put the

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history and the prayer together so that others could pray,

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so that others could know the truth. Because when I

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researched the history of our nation, the Lord laid it

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01:04:35.519 --> 01:04:37.360
on my heart, pray for the nation out of the

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01:04:37.400 --> 01:04:39.239
history of the nation. And I went back and did

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the research. I found just what you're saying, God was

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involved in every moment. We did not learn that in school.

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We need to relearn history because some of it has

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been censored. The part about God has been censored. That's

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the most important part, because that's the part that gives

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01:04:54.639 --> 01:04:58.440
us hope. So when I put this together and I

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01:04:58.519 --> 01:05:00.400
was writing those prayers, when I got to about the

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01:05:00.480 --> 01:05:03.880
fourth or fifth one, probably around the Declaration of Independence,

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01:05:04.639 --> 01:05:06.920
it was an epiphany for me. I thought, God himself

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01:05:07.000 --> 01:05:09.920
is our founder. He does not get the credit for it.

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And I think that that's why God maybe waited to

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open the door for the book until this moment, because

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everybody's looking at our history right now and we want

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them to know the truth, and we want God to

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get the credit.

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If not for God, where would this country be?

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Said, we wouldn't be, we would not be. Think about it.

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You mentioned George Whitfield. I deal with him in my

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01:05:29.239 --> 01:05:31.559
book too. I go from the Pilgrims all the way

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through the founding, the two Great Awakenings, the Emancipation Proclamation,

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01:05:35.920 --> 01:05:39.119
because not everybody was free until then, and then I

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look at our prosperity and exceptionalism and look forward. But

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think about let's just talk about that for a minute.

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The time of the first Greate awakening in the early

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seventeen hundreds.

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I'll tell I'll tell you what I'll tell you it.

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Let's go to break because I want you to be

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able to tell this story uninterrupted. So it's important, I believe,

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for our audience to hear this. We've got more from

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with Sydney Scott, the author of Celebrating God, Our Founder

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at America's two hundred and fiftieth Birthday. All right, I'm

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going to turn it over to you. Let's pick up

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the story.

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Great, Well, let's talk about that first grade awakening, you

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know in the seventeen thirties, when God stirred the people

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like Jonathan Edwards and particularly George Whitfield across America. Well,

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what had happened in America then? We had gone through

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a spiritual decline. You know, we were following God, we

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were earnestly seeking him during the time of the revolution

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because we needed his help. But then we experienced some prosperity.

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You know how human nature is. Once we get through

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the crisis, we sort of step back and we don't

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seek God necessarily as strongly or as earnestly and God,

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because we were in covenant with Him from the time

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of Plymouth Rock. He stirred us to return to Him.

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So what was George Whitfield preaching. He was preaching that

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all that God loved all men, that we needed to

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be born again, that it was more important to be

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a Christian than the member of any particular denomination. And

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as the colonists heard these amazing messages from the Scripture

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in the power of the Holy Spirit, as he was

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taking them, they began to turn wholeheartedly to God. Tens

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of thousands listened to him and could hear him, you know,

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without any of the media that we out. It's miraculous,

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and they began to unite as Christians. The Christians came together,

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and that was what preceded the colonies coming together. So

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without that first grade awakening, I don't believe that the

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colonies would have ever united and had the strength to

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defeat the British army and maybe the greatest in the

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world at that time. What God did was truly miraculous,

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and it started with uniting Christians.

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Right, and it started from God as revelation to Whitfield

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and the other evangelists that he sent to America because

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what they did, they presented a message that brought unity,

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that really began to put the substance on this American idea.

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And one of the keys that came out of it

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was God given freedom. Talk about I mean, you know,

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we'd throw it around today like you know, it's just

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another word. But at that point in time, they had

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come from all this European oppression and this was yeah freedom, well, yeah,

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from God, not from a government that giveth and take

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it away from God Almighty himself. I mean, this just

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brought people together and I mean, you know, it's like

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game over, right.

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That's right. And you know, that message of freedom was

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based in the freedom that we get in Christ, the

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spiritual freedom, the freedom that comes from God alone. And

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the pastors were, as you well know, were influential in

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preaching that particular message at that time. And what happened.

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They held up the plumb line of scripture freedom in

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Christ to what was happening in the world. They related

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it to their circumstances and they said, wait a minute,

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we are living under British tyranny at this moment. This

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is not what God wants for us. So they related

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the scriptures to culture, and that's how the cry for

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freedom began to ring out across America, starting with the pulpits.

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Right, and the thing is, and throughout our history it

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is kind of cycled and it diminished a little bit,

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but for an incredible individual, Charlie Kirk, who revived the concept.

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01:14:13.640 --> 01:14:16.560
But you know that you're doing the right thing when

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01:14:16.600 --> 01:14:19.720
you're under attack. Now, sadly we lost him, you know,

1440
01:14:19.760 --> 01:14:26.880
to an assassin, but Charlie's legacy continues and the impression

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01:14:26.960 --> 01:14:29.479
that he made and the encouragement on these young people.

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01:14:29.640 --> 01:14:33.520
I mean, these college campuses have been reignited. And I

1443
01:14:34.319 --> 01:14:37.880
say reignited because at one point they were ignited. They

1444
01:14:37.960 --> 01:14:39.600
just kind of lost their way a little bit.

1445
01:14:39.680 --> 01:14:43.319
Right, Yes, you're absolutely right about that. And Charlie Kirk

1446
01:14:43.560 --> 01:14:47.159
was an amazing man and God used him powerfully. We

1447
01:14:47.199 --> 01:14:50.600
have not seen the end of God using Charlie Kirk

1448
01:14:50.680 --> 01:14:53.199
and his messages. And I pray that it just grows.

1449
01:14:53.279 --> 01:14:57.760
That movement among young people grows. And what you're talking

1450
01:14:57.760 --> 01:15:00.239
about is sort of the founding of education. And I

1451
01:15:00.239 --> 01:15:03.439
think in America. I love this fact which I learned

1452
01:15:03.479 --> 01:15:06.159
when I was researching history for the prayers. There was

1453
01:15:06.159 --> 01:15:09.840
so much I didn't know. And one hundred and six

1454
01:15:10.119 --> 01:15:13.279
of the first one hundred and eight, that's over ninety

1455
01:15:13.279 --> 01:15:16.840
eight percent colleges in America were founded in the Christian faith.

1456
01:15:18.079 --> 01:15:21.680
Is a mind blowing statistic and I just think, Oh,

1457
01:15:21.720 --> 01:15:23.800
my gosh, how far we've fallen. We need to get

1458
01:15:23.840 --> 01:15:27.119
back to that place. Additionally, as you well know, there

1459
01:15:27.199 --> 01:15:29.640
was a lot of homeschooling going on in the time

1460
01:15:29.680 --> 01:15:32.600
of the colonies, and what was their major textbook, the Bible.

1461
01:15:32.960 --> 01:15:36.640
They wanted their children to be able to read the Bible.

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01:15:36.720 --> 01:15:40.119
So that first college, Harvard, that was established and continued

1463
01:15:40.119 --> 01:15:43.760
in sixteen thirty six, that really set the precedent for

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01:15:43.960 --> 01:15:48.439
education in America to be founded and based in Biblical principles,

1465
01:15:48.800 --> 01:15:53.199
and it created a biblical worldview for those one hundred

1466
01:15:53.239 --> 01:15:55.399
and fifty years leading up to the time of our

1467
01:15:55.439 --> 01:15:59.439
revelation rather our revolution. And I think that's a little

1468
01:15:59.439 --> 01:16:01.520
bit hard for some of us to understand because we

1469
01:16:01.640 --> 01:16:05.680
don't live in a time when most of our media

1470
01:16:06.119 --> 01:16:08.640
is coming from a biblical worldview. We live in a

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01:16:08.640 --> 01:16:10.199
time where we have a lot of pushback.

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01:16:10.640 --> 01:16:14.079
Yeah, even the pastors, the senior pastors in the pulpit today,

1473
01:16:14.359 --> 01:16:17.439
less than fifty percent hold to a biblical worldview, according

1474
01:16:17.680 --> 01:16:22.199
according to barn And Research, and even youth pastors, youth pastors,

1475
01:16:22.199 --> 01:16:24.800
you know what's down to ten percent. We put our

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01:16:24.880 --> 01:16:26.880
kids and we go, Okay, we're going to go into

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01:16:26.920 --> 01:16:28.520
the big church and we're going to send the kids

1478
01:16:28.800 --> 01:16:34.119
to go be you know, to have time in the

1479
01:16:34.159 --> 01:16:40.560
Bible with youth pastors. That ninety percent of them are disqualified.

1480
01:16:41.079 --> 01:16:44.399
That's that's terrifying to me. That's terrifying.

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01:16:44.760 --> 01:16:47.199
This is the world. This is the world we live in,

1482
01:16:48.359 --> 01:16:51.840
and we need to get real with reality and quit

1483
01:16:51.880 --> 01:16:55.439
fooling ourselves and understand. You know, I often say in

1484
01:16:55.479 --> 01:16:57.920
the show, you must own your own knowledge. Okay, you

1485
01:16:57.960 --> 01:17:01.239
and I are talking about some things. My my prayer

1486
01:17:01.640 --> 01:17:04.319
is that our audience will take these nuggets. I want

1487
01:17:04.319 --> 01:17:06.399
to challenge that. Well, God bless you, go ahead and

1488
01:17:06.479 --> 01:17:10.319
challenge it and let us know. And you know, but

1489
01:17:10.520 --> 01:17:13.000
own your own knowledge. Find out for yourself just as

1490
01:17:13.000 --> 01:17:16.079
you were doing as God had drawn you to this

1491
01:17:16.239 --> 01:17:18.720
idea and this concept, and you're going, I didn't even

1492
01:17:18.800 --> 01:17:20.520
realize that that's right.

1493
01:17:20.600 --> 01:17:24.600
That's right, and that's called personal responsibility. Right, and you

1494
01:17:24.680 --> 01:17:28.119
are absolutely right. In many cases in this nation, we

1495
01:17:28.239 --> 01:17:32.239
have to some extent abdicated that we cannot trust the

1496
01:17:32.279 --> 01:17:35.800
schools to fully educate our children, the churches to fully

1497
01:17:35.920 --> 01:17:38.279
educate our children to know and be in that personal

1498
01:17:38.319 --> 01:17:41.319
relationship with God. We need to take that on ourselves.

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01:17:41.600 --> 01:17:45.960
That's our personal responsibility. We've got to take the responsibilities

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01:17:45.960 --> 01:17:48.159
of being a good citizen, of being you know, good

1501
01:17:48.359 --> 01:17:54.119
husband or wife. That personal responsibility is so important, and

1502
01:17:54.159 --> 01:17:57.319
God is calling us to that in our own relationship

1503
01:17:57.359 --> 01:18:00.159
with Him. And you're absolutely right about doing the research.

1504
01:18:00.159 --> 01:18:01.960
We all need to do our own research well.

1505
01:18:02.000 --> 01:18:04.319
And as you said, you know, going back again in

1506
01:18:04.359 --> 01:18:06.399
the beginning, you know, if you were going to be

1507
01:18:06.439 --> 01:18:09.359
a teacher, you had to demonstrate that you had faith

1508
01:18:09.399 --> 01:18:11.600
in God. If you were going to be a politician,

1509
01:18:11.640 --> 01:18:13.960
you want to run for office, one of the keys

1510
01:18:14.119 --> 01:18:16.520
and you know the first thing was, hey, are you

1511
01:18:16.680 --> 01:18:21.279
Bible believing? Are you a practicing Christian? You would be

1512
01:18:21.319 --> 01:18:26.039
disqualified if you were not. Today it doesn't matter, Well today,

1513
01:18:26.079 --> 01:18:27.760
guess what it does matter? And look what we have.

1514
01:18:28.920 --> 01:18:32.880
Well, we are people in need of wisdom, and wisdom

1515
01:18:33.039 --> 01:18:36.880
comes from God. We all know that His wisdom is perfect.

1516
01:18:37.119 --> 01:18:39.800
And I often think to myself, we are such a wonderful, big,

1517
01:18:39.880 --> 01:18:44.039
diverse nation. Who in their right mind, who could could

1518
01:18:44.159 --> 01:18:46.760
rule without God's help. It's like Solomon said, you know,

1519
01:18:46.800 --> 01:18:50.600
he couldn't rule without God's help. Neither neither can our leaders. Truthfully,

1520
01:18:50.760 --> 01:18:53.399
I believe that's why God calls us to pray for them.

1521
01:18:53.880 --> 01:18:56.279
And in the book we do pray for them in

1522
01:18:56.319 --> 01:18:59.479
every section of the book. As you know, I have

1523
01:18:59.520 --> 01:19:03.560
a section prayer. It starts with repentance and corporate repentance.

1524
01:19:03.920 --> 01:19:07.119
Repentance is a marvelous word. It gives us the opportunity

1525
01:19:07.319 --> 01:19:09.520
to correct past mistakes and turn and go in the

1526
01:19:09.560 --> 01:19:10.119
right direction.

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01:19:10.479 --> 01:19:13.159
Yeah, you're refocusing on the standard. See we lost sense

1528
01:19:13.159 --> 01:19:15.279
of the standard. If you're not in the Word of God,

1529
01:19:15.520 --> 01:19:17.760
then you're not tuned up like an instrument.

1530
01:19:17.840 --> 01:19:21.560
Right, That's That's absolutely correct. And then go into Thanksgiving

1531
01:19:21.800 --> 01:19:24.039
and in the book, pray for the government, pray for

1532
01:19:24.079 --> 01:19:27.000
our leaders. The Bible commands us to do that, Pray

1533
01:19:27.079 --> 01:19:31.600
for our people, for our culture and the church in America.

1534
01:19:32.199 --> 01:19:35.079
And then I ask each person to listen to what

1535
01:19:35.119 --> 01:19:37.479
God is saying to them personally. Just like you were

1536
01:19:37.479 --> 01:19:40.479
called to this platform, Bill, and I was called to

1537
01:19:40.479 --> 01:19:45.680
write this book. Each person in America is called by

1538
01:19:45.800 --> 01:19:49.319
God for his purposes, for his glory, and we need

1539
01:19:49.359 --> 01:19:51.439
to listen in order to hear that from him, and

1540
01:19:51.479 --> 01:19:54.680
then we need to respond to take action as our

1541
01:19:54.760 --> 01:19:57.439
forefathers did. They just didn't stay in the churches and

1542
01:19:57.479 --> 01:20:01.560
pray for freedom. They got out there and fought for freedom.

1543
01:20:01.600 --> 01:20:03.600
Well, Cynthia, we're going to wrap things up. I'm going

1544
01:20:03.640 --> 01:20:06.159
to let you close this in prayer, okay, for our

1545
01:20:06.199 --> 01:20:09.840
audience that this will be meaningful to them, that they

1546
01:20:09.880 --> 01:20:13.600
will be motivated to pursue God and pursue his holiness

1547
01:20:13.920 --> 01:20:15.680
and his righteousness. Okay, go ahead.

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01:20:16.560 --> 01:20:19.800
Father, We thank you for this nation, this amazing nation

1549
01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:24.039
that you yourself established, and I thank you today for every

1550
01:20:24.600 --> 01:20:28.399
person that is listening and watching Father speak to them

1551
01:20:28.560 --> 01:20:31.760
afresh today. You have called them for such a time

1552
01:20:31.800 --> 01:20:35.239
as this, to step into what you are doing in America,

1553
01:20:35.600 --> 01:20:38.760
to know our real history, to share that with others,

1554
01:20:38.840 --> 01:20:42.560
and to pray, Father, bless this nation. And I pray

1555
01:20:42.880 --> 01:20:46.239
that each of us would bless you in Jesus' name.

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01:20:46.439 --> 01:20:51.159
Amen. Cynthia Scott, congratulations, Thank you so much. You're a blessing.

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01:20:51.159 --> 01:20:55.520
I appreciate the prayer too, more importantly, because this is

1558
01:20:55.520 --> 01:20:57.359
what it's all about. It's our way to communicate with

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01:20:57.399 --> 01:20:58.359
the Father, right.

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01:20:58.520 --> 01:21:01.359
It is it is. That's your privilege and a joy.

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01:21:01.560 --> 01:21:02.560
Thank you, Bill, May.

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01:21:02.680 --> 01:21:05.359
Thank you celebrating God in your founder at America's two

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01:21:05.399 --> 01:21:08.239
hundred and fiftieth birthday, Cynthia Scott, you will be blessed

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01:21:08.279 --> 01:21:09.960
by this book. Lady and gentlemen. Get your hands on

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it and get your face in it, and your heart

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01:21:12.640 --> 01:21:15.920
and your soul. Just dive right in and enjoy and

1567
01:21:15.920 --> 01:21:17.840
be blessed. Thank you, Cynthia, take care.

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Thank you so much, Bill, have a great day you too.

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Well, good morning, Welcome back Bill Martinez here. Great to

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have you with us, and also great to have Dave

1642
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Pollock back with us on a different topic altogether, because

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May is brain tumor Awareness month and we have a

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message that can make a real difference for you. As

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I mentioned, David Pollocks known to many as a former

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NFL player, college analysts, and recently a new author, but

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after his wife Lindsey's brain cancer diagnosis last year, this

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issue became deeply personal. Now he's using his voice to

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encourage others not to put off important screenings and early detection,

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plus his role as an AFLEC Check for Cancer champ. David, Welcome, Michelle.

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01:26:01.359 --> 01:26:02.199
Good to have you with us.

1652
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Bill, thank you having me on brother.

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Well, your new book, Every Day Counts talks a lot

1654
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about perseverance, including your wife's battle with brain cancer. You know,

1655
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talk about your journey here if you would, Well.

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I think, Bill, you don't. You don't know what you

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don't know until you experience a lot of different things.

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And so this last year, when you hear the C

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word and you get a cancer diagnosis, it changes the

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way you think, It changes the way you feel. And

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I didn't know last year that brain to brain cancer

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awareness was the month of May. Like I would have

1663
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never known that. Now I know all about it, and

1664
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so just walking through it with our with my wife

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and our family. I mean, we had a seventeen and

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a fifteen year old who's had to also be in

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on this journey and the surgeries that come with it,

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you know, redoing yourself, relearning yourself. She's learned how to

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use her left hand again and learning how to speak again,

1670
01:26:49.359 --> 01:26:52.479
and that processor and using all the different things. But

1671
01:26:52.560 --> 01:26:54.520
like it's been fun to watch God move in a

1672
01:26:54.560 --> 01:26:58.680
storm like hard times, but just fun to watch her

1673
01:26:59.079 --> 01:27:02.199
be able to do stuff like that, walk again, celebrate again.

1674
01:27:02.199 --> 01:27:03.960
A lot of times we take our health for granted

1675
01:27:04.000 --> 01:27:06.359
because we have good health, right Bill, and we walk

1676
01:27:06.399 --> 01:27:08.520
and we give new things. And the more we the

1677
01:27:08.520 --> 01:27:10.800
more that feels normal, the more we go along in life.

1678
01:27:10.840 --> 01:27:13.159
And then sometimes we get kicked a little bit and

1679
01:27:13.159 --> 01:27:15.439
we're like, all right, this isn't something I should take

1680
01:27:15.479 --> 01:27:17.399
for granted. So we've had a lot of grace in

1681
01:27:17.439 --> 01:27:19.439
the last year well exactly.

1682
01:27:19.560 --> 01:27:24.560
And you know, when you rely on God in such

1683
01:27:24.560 --> 01:27:27.119
a way as your famili has had to through this experience,

1684
01:27:27.840 --> 01:27:30.920
you have learned about God and appreciated God and a

1685
01:27:30.960 --> 01:27:34.560
whole different measure altogether when you go through this and

1686
01:27:35.159 --> 01:27:39.680
to see His faithfulness through this journey, that you know

1687
01:27:39.720 --> 01:27:43.119
that everything's going to be okay, that this too shall pass.

1688
01:27:42.960 --> 01:27:46.399
Right absolutely, And I think that that's the fun thing

1689
01:27:46.399 --> 01:27:48.479
about life when you realize, like we serve a God

1690
01:27:48.520 --> 01:27:51.119
that is for us. He's not against us, but but

1691
01:27:51.199 --> 01:27:54.079
we're going to have circumstances that seems like it's very

1692
01:27:54.159 --> 01:27:57.960
much against us. But those circumstances, man, they don't define us,

1693
01:27:58.199 --> 01:28:01.600
that they refine us. They make us feel understand, make

1694
01:28:01.680 --> 01:28:03.800
us understand how grateful we are to have air in

1695
01:28:03.840 --> 01:28:06.479
our lungs and be able to do all the things.

1696
01:28:06.800 --> 01:28:08.920
And with my wife, man like Bill, one of the

1697
01:28:08.920 --> 01:28:12.600
most important thing is like her understanding and finding this early.

1698
01:28:12.880 --> 01:28:14.880
And that's why we want to share this message. That's

1699
01:28:14.880 --> 01:28:16.960
why it's important to Affleck, That's why it's important to me.

1700
01:28:17.119 --> 01:28:19.479
Like she has this ear pain, it's not that big

1701
01:28:19.520 --> 01:28:21.800
of a deal. We go get images she's got a

1702
01:28:21.800 --> 01:28:24.359
mass on her brain and we know that, and so

1703
01:28:24.479 --> 01:28:26.439
we're able to check it and monitor it for the

1704
01:28:26.439 --> 01:28:28.119
next couple of years and then we saw when it

1705
01:28:28.159 --> 01:28:30.840
grew right, and so then we were able to come

1706
01:28:30.880 --> 01:28:33.600
in and understand that we had a battle on our hands.

1707
01:28:33.640 --> 01:28:35.880
But it was it wasn't before, you know, we didn't

1708
01:28:35.880 --> 01:28:38.439
have all the headaches and seizures and all the hard

1709
01:28:38.439 --> 01:28:41.239
things that came with it. Because we found it early,

1710
01:28:41.560 --> 01:28:44.079
We're had a real opportunity to fight. And that's why,

1711
01:28:44.279 --> 01:28:47.279
you know, don't wait. Make time for your cancer screenings.

1712
01:28:47.520 --> 01:28:50.119
Make time for your checkups. Bill, even you if you're

1713
01:28:50.159 --> 01:28:53.640
really busy, brother, like, find some time to make time

1714
01:28:53.680 --> 01:28:55.760
for that because it's so important. We get one body,

1715
01:28:56.000 --> 01:28:57.479
you know, let's make sure we take care of it

1716
01:28:57.760 --> 01:28:58.520
well exactly.

1717
01:28:58.560 --> 01:29:01.880
And David, I'm a survivor of answer prostate cancer, and

1718
01:29:01.960 --> 01:29:05.920
it caused me to really appreciate the miracle of our

1719
01:29:05.960 --> 01:29:08.520
body that God has created for us. And if you

1720
01:29:08.600 --> 01:29:12.479
treat it right and you do the right things by it,

1721
01:29:12.479 --> 01:29:15.800
it will treat you right as well. And early detection

1722
01:29:16.000 --> 01:29:19.159
is so key, and I was able to catch mine early.

1723
01:29:19.279 --> 01:29:22.760
I monitored very closely, and finally it came down to

1724
01:29:22.800 --> 01:29:24.039
where I had to make a decision.

1725
01:29:24.399 --> 01:29:25.479
That's awesome, Bill.

1726
01:29:25.279 --> 01:29:28.960
Well, that's great, and listen, there's millions of stories. There's

1727
01:29:28.960 --> 01:29:31.439
thousands of stories across the country of that, right, people

1728
01:29:31.520 --> 01:29:35.119
finding it early, and the rates, the numbers don't lie. Right,

1729
01:29:35.119 --> 01:29:36.880
They're going to show you when you find it early,

1730
01:29:37.079 --> 01:29:39.279
how much of a chance you really really get to fight.

1731
01:29:39.359 --> 01:29:39.960
So don't wait.

1732
01:29:40.199 --> 01:29:40.520
Listen.

1733
01:29:40.560 --> 01:29:42.159
I know we have those aches and pains, and we

1734
01:29:42.199 --> 01:29:43.960
have those things that makes us feel like we getting old,

1735
01:29:44.119 --> 01:29:44.720
because we are.

1736
01:29:44.880 --> 01:29:45.920
We ain't getting no younger.

1737
01:29:46.640 --> 01:29:48.439
But when your body feels a little bit off or

1738
01:29:48.560 --> 01:29:50.239
you know, that's why it's simple, like you see that

1739
01:29:50.319 --> 01:29:53.600
check with affleck right there, the check get checked. Like

1740
01:29:53.720 --> 01:29:56.279
it's just a good reminder, go get checked. Make sure

1741
01:29:56.279 --> 01:29:59.359
you're doing well because you have such a great chance

1742
01:29:59.399 --> 01:30:02.680
to fight and make the fight so much easier if.

1743
01:30:02.520 --> 01:30:04.079
You find it, if you find it sooner.

1744
01:30:04.439 --> 01:30:10.199
Well, you and Lindsay and your family have become you know, spokespeople.

1745
01:30:10.239 --> 01:30:13.159
I mean, you know, you've got a testimony and it's

1746
01:30:13.239 --> 01:30:16.439
real what's happened to you. And when you talk about

1747
01:30:16.479 --> 01:30:20.279
early detection, I mean this, uh, you know, this journey

1748
01:30:20.279 --> 01:30:24.119
that you went on was you know, I don't want

1749
01:30:24.119 --> 01:30:25.560
to say it was a lot easier, but I guess

1750
01:30:25.600 --> 01:30:28.720
in the sense it was because of early detection. Right, Oh, one.

1751
01:30:28.720 --> 01:30:31.640
Hundred percent and listen, you feel you feel grateful to

1752
01:30:31.640 --> 01:30:33.840
be where you're at right Like I think you know

1753
01:30:34.000 --> 01:30:37.000
us being a year and a half afterwards and being

1754
01:30:37.079 --> 01:30:41.079
cancer free, like, we are humbled. We are we are blessed.

1755
01:30:41.119 --> 01:30:44.039
We understand that not everybody gets that opportunity. But I'll

1756
01:30:44.039 --> 01:30:46.319
tell you this, man, because of Athleck and because of

1757
01:30:46.359 --> 01:30:47.680
all the people that have put in a lot of

1758
01:30:47.720 --> 01:30:49.680
work for all these years, we get to be.

1759
01:30:49.720 --> 01:30:50.319
At that spot.

1760
01:30:51.079 --> 01:30:53.800
We had the opportunity to be blessed. We had the

1761
01:30:53.800 --> 01:30:57.359
opportunity to have a temporary healing because so many people

1762
01:30:57.439 --> 01:31:00.600
have given funds, given their times, their treasures, their talents.

1763
01:31:00.760 --> 01:31:02.760
Afflac's gonna put it in front of you every year

1764
01:31:03.039 --> 01:31:04.760
to learn more. You can take action if you go

1765
01:31:04.800 --> 01:31:08.399
to AFLAC dot com backslash check for cancer. But like,

1766
01:31:08.479 --> 01:31:10.560
that's what you feel humbled by, Bill, Like so many

1767
01:31:10.560 --> 01:31:12.840
people that really you don't even know who they are,

1768
01:31:13.119 --> 01:31:15.199
but they were a part of your journey and they

1769
01:31:15.199 --> 01:31:17.399
were a part of your healing. And now you feel

1770
01:31:17.439 --> 01:31:20.159
the same responsibilities, like how can I tell people about this?

1771
01:31:20.560 --> 01:31:23.079
How can we share our story? Because whether you want

1772
01:31:23.119 --> 01:31:25.359
to or not, you become experts in this field. Right,

1773
01:31:25.399 --> 01:31:27.640
and you kind of learn it and grow it. And

1774
01:31:27.680 --> 01:31:29.279
then you see all the people out there that are

1775
01:31:29.319 --> 01:31:32.479
hurting that had that same response that you had of confusion,

1776
01:31:32.479 --> 01:31:34.199
and how can you educate them right?

1777
01:31:34.239 --> 01:31:37.640
And this adds a dimension to your story and your

1778
01:31:37.640 --> 01:31:40.880
book that you write about everyday counts right, yes, sir.

1779
01:31:41.000 --> 01:31:43.279
And the book wouldn't have been written without my wife's

1780
01:31:43.319 --> 01:31:46.680
trial because I had you know, as her nurse for

1781
01:31:46.720 --> 01:31:48.920
a while. I got still right and I got a

1782
01:31:49.000 --> 01:31:51.600
chance to really really write because we found like Groundhog's

1783
01:31:51.640 --> 01:31:54.319
day every day and got to write her story. And listen,

1784
01:31:54.640 --> 01:31:59.319
it's not about our successes. It's literally about our struggles

1785
01:31:59.600 --> 01:32:02.159
and how God continues to be faithful and show up,

1786
01:32:02.199 --> 01:32:06.039
and how those struggles haven't defined us, they've refined us right,

1787
01:32:06.039 --> 01:32:08.520
and it made us better versions of ourselves. And how

1788
01:32:08.560 --> 01:32:12.279
it's developed empathy and sympathy and compassion for other people

1789
01:32:12.319 --> 01:32:15.159
that are struggling and going through different things. So it's

1790
01:32:15.199 --> 01:32:18.199
just been a great reminder. And this book, this book

1791
01:32:18.199 --> 01:32:20.439
will challenge you now, Bill, Like, if you don't want

1792
01:32:20.479 --> 01:32:22.439
to be challenged, Bill, you picked up the wrong book.

1793
01:32:22.439 --> 01:32:24.359
And I'm not supposed to say that because I'm supposed

1794
01:32:24.359 --> 01:32:26.600
to sell books. But like, if you don't want to

1795
01:32:26.600 --> 01:32:28.720
be challenging, you don't want to be competitive in your life,

1796
01:32:28.760 --> 01:32:31.920
and start putting some systems in place to make everyday

1797
01:32:32.000 --> 01:32:34.920
count and challenge yourself and create a scoreboard, because I

1798
01:32:34.920 --> 01:32:36.960
think men and women both we operate better when we

1799
01:32:37.000 --> 01:32:40.520
have that scoreboard and we have something to chase and pursuit.

1800
01:32:40.800 --> 01:32:43.000
Too much easy, too much easy.

1801
01:32:42.720 --> 01:32:45.600
In our life, too little hard, and so creating some

1802
01:32:45.640 --> 01:32:47.600
of those ways to see if we're winning and losing

1803
01:32:47.680 --> 01:32:49.800
every single day, I think is a good thing.

1804
01:32:50.239 --> 01:32:52.479
Dave. I was one of nine kids, So what do

1805
01:32:52.520 --> 01:32:54.560
you think you know you had to fight, Yes, sir,

1806
01:32:54.600 --> 01:32:58.680
you did exactly. So Hey, no, I was very blessed.

1807
01:32:58.720 --> 01:33:00.600
We had great parents and a great fas family. We

1808
01:33:00.640 --> 01:33:03.720
were blessed so so much. And you know, going back

1809
01:33:03.720 --> 01:33:05.920
to what you're saying, you know, the word of God

1810
01:33:05.960 --> 01:33:09.439
says he who knows their God will do mighty exploits

1811
01:33:09.479 --> 01:33:13.439
that knowing God is through the experience, and you experience

1812
01:33:13.520 --> 01:33:17.399
God through something that you know could have destroyed families.

1813
01:33:17.600 --> 01:33:19.840
But what it did, it did just the opposite. It

1814
01:33:19.840 --> 01:33:24.000
brought you closer together as a family, but also closer

1815
01:33:24.039 --> 01:33:26.880
to God because you, as you said, God's faithful.

1816
01:33:27.279 --> 01:33:31.159
Always in every season, in every storm of life, He's faithful.

1817
01:33:31.159 --> 01:33:31.520
He's there.

1818
01:33:31.520 --> 01:33:33.600
And if you're not in a storm, I got some

1819
01:33:33.680 --> 01:33:38.279
really really bad news. One's coming right, like it is coming.

1820
01:33:38.239 --> 01:33:40.079
For sure for you and for your life.

1821
01:33:40.159 --> 01:33:42.640
So to watch him work and listen sometimes we feel

1822
01:33:42.640 --> 01:33:45.359
like we're in control, right and I got this man,

1823
01:33:45.399 --> 01:33:47.439
everything's smooth now. You probably didn't feel like that, being

1824
01:33:47.479 --> 01:33:49.800
one of nine dog you probably fod you had something

1825
01:33:49.840 --> 01:33:52.000
every day that was slapping you in the face. But

1826
01:33:52.119 --> 01:33:54.000
like you get going in life and it just gets

1827
01:33:54.039 --> 01:33:56.399
easy and you take your health for granted, you take

1828
01:33:56.439 --> 01:33:58.880
different things for granted, and then you have something that

1829
01:33:58.920 --> 01:34:01.520
slaps you outside your head and you're like, okay, this

1830
01:34:01.520 --> 01:34:04.319
this life is temporal man, Like we're only here for

1831
01:34:04.359 --> 01:34:06.840
a little bit of time. And to watch him work

1832
01:34:06.880 --> 01:34:08.760
and do his thing, it's it's really fun to be

1833
01:34:08.800 --> 01:34:09.239
a part of it.

1834
01:34:09.439 --> 01:34:11.680
It's awesome, there's no doubt about it. We got to

1835
01:34:11.680 --> 01:34:13.600
wrap things up. Got about him in the left here, David,

1836
01:34:14.279 --> 01:34:17.720
You've just been named flack check for Cancer Champion. So

1837
01:34:17.760 --> 01:34:20.359
what does that mean to you? And where can our

1838
01:34:20.439 --> 01:34:22.359
viewers' listeners go for more information?

1839
01:34:22.880 --> 01:34:24.800
That means everybody else was taken and I was the

1840
01:34:24.800 --> 01:34:25.760
only one left to give.

1841
01:34:25.640 --> 01:34:28.520
The award to. I mean, I'm honored.

1842
01:34:28.680 --> 01:34:31.560
I think it's something that you know, walking through this

1843
01:34:31.560 --> 01:34:33.560
this last year and a half with my baby doll

1844
01:34:33.880 --> 01:34:35.840
and being a part of it, Like, we just want

1845
01:34:35.840 --> 01:34:37.720
to make sure that we're somehow a part of other

1846
01:34:37.760 --> 01:34:41.159
people's solutions. And if you go to AFLAC dot com

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01:34:41.199 --> 01:34:45.159
backslash check for cancer, you know you can find information

1848
01:34:45.560 --> 01:34:48.920
that might save your life and again early detection. Don't wait,

1849
01:34:49.399 --> 01:34:51.479
don't be lazy. I know you can find some time

1850
01:34:51.520 --> 01:34:54.239
within your next month to go get get checked and

1851
01:34:54.279 --> 01:34:57.439
see how your body's reacting, how it's feeling. But we

1852
01:34:57.479 --> 01:34:59.199
are honored to be a part of this story, and

1853
01:34:59.199 --> 01:35:01.920
we're honored to a part of, hopefully somebody else finding

1854
01:35:01.920 --> 01:35:03.920
a solution to a problem that they're going to have

1855
01:35:03.960 --> 01:35:04.479
in the future.

1856
01:35:04.960 --> 01:35:07.279
Well, David, you bless us. Thank you so much. David Pollock,

1857
01:35:07.319 --> 01:35:10.600
former NFL player, college football analysts and author and early

1858
01:35:10.680 --> 01:35:14.119
cancer screening advocate. Thank you, David. Be blessed. Take care

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01:35:14.319 --> 01:35:15.239
you guys, say brother.

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Hey, we're back with you. Bill Martinez here. Glad you

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could joined us. Bill, and also Mike Huff, the co

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president Numbers USA. It's been a minute, Mike, good to

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have you back on. Welcome.

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Yeah, glad to be here.

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Well, lots to talk about. First, let's catch up with

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a Congressman Barrymore, the Republican out of Alabama, introducing the

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Americans First Immigration Act last week. Tell us about that.

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Yeah, A lot of people when they think about immigration

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and the problems, they focus on illegal immigration, but they

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don't realize that legal immigration is in itself a huge problem. So,

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01:39:53.840 --> 01:39:56.640
on average, about a million people coming in the country

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01:39:56.800 --> 01:39:59.800
through the legal immigration system. Now, if you look in

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de side that million, about only about fourteen percent one

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hundred and forty thousand actually employment based visas. Those are

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people that are coming for jobs, people we need for

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our economy. The vast majority are of those employment based people.

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They're their extended family. They're their siblings or their parents.

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And then what happens is all those people when they

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01:40:20.520 --> 01:40:22.600
come in, they get to bring in their extended family.

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01:40:23.000 --> 01:40:25.319
So we have this immigration system that was set up

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by LBJ that's completely outdated, doesn't fit our economy, drives

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01:40:29.359 --> 01:40:31.960
down the wages of Americans. And what this bill is

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01:40:32.520 --> 01:40:36.000
does is pretty simple. It creates a merit based system

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for people that come in there, people that have education

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degrees our economy actually needs. It gets rid of this

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01:40:42.800 --> 01:40:48.359
extended family chain migration, so would lower our immigration numbers

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and it would in return drive up wages for average Americans.

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That makes too much sense, that does? I mean this

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has been a long time coming. I mean how long

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have they kicking this around? Right?

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Yeah, it's actually the first. The last time that we

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had a bill similar to this was the Raise Act

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01:41:07.000 --> 01:41:11.279
that Senator Cotton introduced during the first Trump administration. So

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just getting the bill introduced and getting Congress to address

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this problem, to look at legal immigration, realizing that it's

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broken and that we need to fix it. That that's

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been a huge step just getting the bill introduced.

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Well, my cuff, I got to tell you, they're quick

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to say it's broken, but they're very slow to come

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up with any solutions. I mean, this is the thing

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that's so frustrating. It's like, Oh, they'd much rather have

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it as a talking point and fundraise off of it,

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especially in election seasons. Right.

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01:41:39.800 --> 01:41:41.479
Yeah, And I'll give you an example of something that

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this bill fixes. There's this thing called the Diversity Visa Lottery.

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So if you're from a country that doesn't get a

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lot of visas to the United States, you can enter

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a random lottery. You can win a lottery, and fifty

1983
01:41:51.800 --> 01:41:54.439
five thousand people year come to the United States because

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they want a lottery. That's not a good way to

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pick people to come to the United States. That's not

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a good way to know that these people were beneficial

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in our country add to our economy. So what this does,

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instead of having a random lottery deciding who comes in,

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we have a merit based system. We're bringing people who

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are based on education, based on their working skills, based

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on what they can add to our economy. These are

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people that are going to pay taxes and not draw

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from welfare and public benefits and cost money. So I

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think that's something that you know, the vast majority of

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Americans would support that.

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Well, Mike, you know, like you said, the immigration process

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has been purposely complex, and you know this has been

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an act of a party because they have found some

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benefit to have open borders. And there are so like

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you say, there's so many elements to this. And at

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one time the country had a handle on immigration. They

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were they were managing it in a way that was beneficial.

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It needed to evolve and update, be updated because of

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you know, technological advances and all these, like you said,

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and merit base needed to be highly considered, but that

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got thrown out the window. So here we are trying

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to manage open borders, this hostility towards a government entity

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loose sole job is to get the bad people who've

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come into the country out of the country, and you know,

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it just it just muddies up the waters. If you

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were king, well, what are the three things you would do? Okay?

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Well, number one, you're right, we do need to secure

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our borders. And while Trump has secured them through executive

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actions and we're seeing nowhere near the numbers. The numbers

2015
01:43:37.119 --> 01:43:39.720
are down to a mere trickle the southern border. The

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problem is the minute that you have a new president,

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come in, a president Gavin Newsom, I know you're out

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on the West coast, so come in. He can change

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with a stroke of the pen can undo all of that.

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And so we need to put in laws fixing asylum

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other things to fix the borders, and then we need

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to fix our legal immigration system. Historically, prior to nineteen

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sixty five, I believe it or not, the immigration numbers

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were about two hundred and fifty thousand people coming in

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01:44:03.920 --> 01:44:07.039
a year, and then they jumped after nineteen sixty five

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01:44:07.159 --> 01:44:09.439
all the way up to a million a year. Now

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we are historically high just legal immigration numbers. So I

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would fix our legal immigration system, lower the numbers, and

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go to a system like most Western democracies have, which

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is a merit based system.

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Yeah, what do you bring to the dance here? And

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that you're not going to be a burden? I mean

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because even when you come in legally, I think we're

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up to, like you said, about a million immigrants that

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01:44:33.600 --> 01:44:36.479
we allow to come into the country legally, they must

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have a sworn statement They're not going to be a

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burden on the people. They've got, you know, family members

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that are sponsoring in them, you know, and it's got

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to be frustrating for them who come in. They've stand

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in line, some have waited for you know, ten years,

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01:44:50.520 --> 01:44:53.039
some even longer to come in, and they've earned their

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01:44:53.039 --> 01:44:56.920
way and their opportunity to become citizens of this great country.

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01:44:57.239 --> 01:44:59.079
And then all of a sudden, you got open borders

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and people are getting healthcare and all the other stuff

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along with it. I mean, it's no wonder the people

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01:45:05.760 --> 01:45:09.399
are frustrated. No wonder that they think, you know, fraud.

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01:45:09.439 --> 01:45:11.479
Who cares about fraud? I mean, there's so much fraud

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01:45:11.479 --> 01:45:14.520
happening in front of everybody's face. You know, why should

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01:45:14.520 --> 01:45:17.000
I have a conscience about, you know, stealing any money

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01:45:17.039 --> 01:45:17.720
from the government.

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01:45:19.119 --> 01:45:21.359
Yeah, we saw that test in real time during the

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01:45:21.359 --> 01:45:24.640
Biden administration. If you have open borders, other countries will

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01:45:24.760 --> 01:45:27.319
use it, they will abuse it. This is the greatest

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01:45:27.319 --> 01:45:29.960
country in the face of the world, and my humble opinion,

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01:45:30.439 --> 01:45:32.960
and there are billions of people all around the world

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01:45:32.960 --> 01:45:35.079
that would love to come to the United States, but

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01:45:35.119 --> 01:45:37.880
we can't have billions of people come to the United states.

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01:45:37.880 --> 01:45:40.640
We have to have a regulated, orderly process, and we

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01:45:40.720 --> 01:45:43.319
have to have a process that benefits Americans. And that's

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01:45:43.319 --> 01:45:46.760
what's so great about represented Barrymore's Bill of Alabama, the

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01:45:46.800 --> 01:45:50.680
Americans First Immigration Act. It puts Americans first. It has

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01:45:50.720 --> 01:45:54.079
an immigration system that benefits our country and our citizens.

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01:45:54.479 --> 01:45:56.279
And that's why we're so excited about it.

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01:45:57.119 --> 01:45:59.560
And the thing that's tough, it's got to be frustrating

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01:45:59.600 --> 01:46:03.600
for legen, like you know, Bary Moore, is that this

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01:46:03.640 --> 01:46:06.880
is something that has so much common sense wrapped into

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01:46:06.920 --> 01:46:11.800
this bill, and then you've got these antithical forces that

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01:46:11.920 --> 01:46:15.960
have made an industry to be illegal immigration, and you've

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01:46:16.000 --> 01:46:20.600
got this resistance that's taking place. So it's counter you know,

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01:46:20.880 --> 01:46:26.680
good policy, good politics because it's self serving. This here

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01:46:27.159 --> 01:46:31.760
is to serve America and Americans, you know, the citizenry

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01:46:32.199 --> 01:46:33.079
of we the people.

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01:46:34.039 --> 01:46:34.479
Yeah.

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01:46:34.560 --> 01:46:36.960
And it's a bipartisan problem too. I mean, it's not

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01:46:37.119 --> 01:46:40.039
just the you know this this amnesty and open borders folks,

2076
01:46:40.119 --> 01:46:43.279
it's Republicans too. It's not just the Democrat Party, even

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01:46:43.319 --> 01:46:45.960
though the Democrat Party in d C has become more

2078
01:46:46.359 --> 01:46:49.000
in unison for it. There's a bill right now called

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01:46:49.039 --> 01:46:54.199
the Dignity Act actually a Republican Salazara Florida put in,

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01:46:54.720 --> 01:46:57.560
and it's got twenty Republican co sponsors on it. The

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01:46:57.600 --> 01:47:00.800
bill would shut down Trump's deportations, and it would give

2082
01:47:00.880 --> 01:47:05.399
amnesty to over eleven million illegal immigrants. And finally, unlike

2083
01:47:05.479 --> 01:47:09.399
this bill, it would increase legal immigration, would increase the

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01:47:09.720 --> 01:47:12.279
flow of people coming in and therefore drive down American

2085
01:47:12.279 --> 01:47:15.880
wages and make it harder for Americans and first generation

2086
01:47:16.000 --> 01:47:18.119
immigrants and those who are trying to live the American

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01:47:18.199 --> 01:47:19.600
dream to obtain that.

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01:47:20.359 --> 01:47:25.199
Well, and even with you know, Representative Salazar's you know

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01:47:25.319 --> 01:47:27.319
calculus on this, and I've tried to talk to her

2090
01:47:27.359 --> 01:47:29.960
several times because I'm going to it doesn't add up.

2091
01:47:30.479 --> 01:47:33.239
You know, It's just, you know, the way you're proposed.

2092
01:47:33.359 --> 01:47:35.800
I mean it sounds nice, I mean typical, you know

2093
01:47:35.920 --> 01:47:39.760
Beltway kind of language, the Dignity Act. Who doesn't want dignity?

2094
01:47:40.319 --> 01:47:42.680
I mean the problem is is that when you violate

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01:47:42.760 --> 01:47:45.960
dignity to begin with, you know, then we're supposed to

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01:47:45.960 --> 01:47:49.119
make you whole, you know, to forgive the fact that

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01:47:49.159 --> 01:47:53.920
you've broken the law and you have you know, pillaged

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01:47:54.199 --> 01:47:54.960
our treasury.

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01:47:56.000 --> 01:47:59.439
Yeah, absolutely, so it has amnesty in there for over

2100
01:47:59.479 --> 01:48:02.800
eleven million illegal immigrants, and like I said, for two years,

2101
01:48:02.800 --> 01:48:05.880
it would completely shut down the deportation So no matter.

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01:48:05.920 --> 01:48:09.079
So they claim it doesn't it doesn't affect the people

2103
01:48:09.079 --> 01:48:13.119
who came in under Biden. That's not accurate because basically

2104
01:48:13.159 --> 01:48:16.039
it would shut down all enforcement for the next two

2105
01:48:16.079 --> 01:48:18.279
years the rest of the Trump administration. And this is

2106
01:48:18.319 --> 01:48:22.399
Republicans doing this. These are twenty Republicans co sponsored legislation

2107
01:48:22.880 --> 01:48:27.680
to shut down President Trump's deportations. So you know, we

2108
01:48:27.760 --> 01:48:29.479
have these fights on the hill where you see the

2109
01:48:29.520 --> 01:48:32.720
Democrats are trying to defund ice and you know, shut

2110
01:48:32.760 --> 01:48:37.000
down DHS funding for seventy two days. Well, Republicans, it's

2111
01:48:37.039 --> 01:48:39.239
it's not the majority, but there's a handful and there's

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01:48:39.239 --> 01:48:41.239
twenty on this bill that are a major problem. That

2113
01:48:41.319 --> 01:48:43.159
are that are part of it, trying to shut down

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01:48:43.199 --> 01:48:47.920
deportations and adding to the lawlessness that we're seeing.

2115
01:48:48.640 --> 01:48:51.239
Well exactly, and Mike, I mean, okay, she wanted to

2116
01:48:51.279 --> 01:48:57.199
defund ice, you know, the the legal and lawful mechanism

2117
01:48:57.640 --> 01:49:00.399
to help manage what you said you want to do,

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01:49:00.680 --> 01:49:03.319
and that is illegal immigration, and you want to shut

2119
01:49:03.359 --> 01:49:07.079
them down. And what you do is you unleash lawlessness,

2120
01:49:07.079 --> 01:49:09.520
and this is exactly what's going on here in our

2121
01:49:09.560 --> 01:49:12.560
country and for some reason, and of course the mainstream

2122
01:49:12.600 --> 01:49:15.640
media is culpable in this because they're not reporting on

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01:49:15.720 --> 01:49:18.640
it in a way that would help educate people and

2124
01:49:18.680 --> 01:49:24.239
help them understand, you know, what does legal immigration look like?

2125
01:49:24.399 --> 01:49:26.000
What should it look like in America?

2126
01:49:27.279 --> 01:49:30.000
Yeah, and so our argument is, obviously we would agree,

2127
01:49:30.039 --> 01:49:32.720
is that illegal immigration should be as closed to as zero.

2128
01:49:33.199 --> 01:49:35.439
And then we need to look at the legal immigration system,

2129
01:49:35.479 --> 01:49:38.399
which is the million coming in this bill. The America

2130
01:49:38.439 --> 01:49:42.439
First Immigration Act would reduce legal immigration around seven hundred

2131
01:49:42.439 --> 01:49:45.880
and twenty five thousand. Every bipartisan commission that's ever looked

2132
01:49:45.880 --> 01:49:49.760
at the legal immigration system recommended lowering those numbers, recommended

2133
01:49:49.920 --> 01:49:53.760
ending illegal immigration. And so that's what we're pushing for.

2134
01:49:53.880 --> 01:49:57.079
Whereas the Dignity Act is the exact opposite of that.

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01:49:57.159 --> 01:50:01.199
It gives lawlessness amnesty to illegal immigrants, and it would

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01:50:01.279 --> 01:50:04.920
increase legal immigration. You'd have about one point two million

2137
01:50:04.960 --> 01:50:08.479
people coming in a year, So it would increase chain migration,

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01:50:08.760 --> 01:50:12.560
increase the problems with the legal immigration system, and further

2139
01:50:12.680 --> 01:50:15.119
drive down wages. And that's why you see a lot

2140
01:50:15.159 --> 01:50:19.159
of the large business community others behind it because it

2141
01:50:19.199 --> 01:50:22.439
is a real cheap labor bill.

2142
01:50:21.760 --> 01:50:23.880
Right, exactly, Well, we got to wrap things up forty

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seconds left. The midterms coming up. It's critical to voter

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be informed, and there's some checklists that they should look

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for in considering their candidates.

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Right, absolutely. So if you go to NumbersUSA dot org,

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you can click on there, we have our candidate comparisons

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and we compare every candidate's running. So if you look

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at some of the primary So for example, I just

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pulled one which is a good one in Louisiana, there's

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a US Senate primary on May sixteenth. That's not if

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the governor has moved the data. I know there's some

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fluctuation there. But the current Senator Cassidy, he has a

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C plus on our grades, which, right, that's not great

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for Republican US senator. He's being challenged by Julia Letlow.

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She's a current member of Congress. She has a B.

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There's another form member of Congress down there, John Fleming,

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who has an A. So if you go onto our

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great car or on Arcanic comparison, you can click on

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your state and you can see the races and you

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can get the actual grades of how these people will vote.

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It's so important and critical you have this because people

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do not tell the truth and their election ads. You

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need to look at the records and we have it

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all up on our website NumbersUSA dot org.

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Well, Mike Couff, thank you so much. A great effort,

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great job that everybody's doing there at Numbers USA. He's

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the co president of Numbers USA. Mike cuffsman our guest.

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Thank you, Mike. Take care.

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Thanks Bill.

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