May 5, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 05 05 26

The Bill Martinez Show 05 05 26
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The Bill Martinez Show 05 05 26
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, Okay, let's do it. Ill Martinez Live a program

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about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and

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our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Hey, glad you can join us. Welcome Bill Martinez here.

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It's just about six minutes after the top of the hour.

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Richard Lyons joins us. Now, Hey, Richard, how are we doing?

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Great?

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Phil?

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How are you hey?

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I'm doing terrific. Thank you so much for coming on

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to talk about you know, the latest here regarding Trump's

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announcement that he's taking troops out of Germany and NATO

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is like, whoa, what's going on here? I mean, first

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he comes to NATO says we're not paying enough. And

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you know this, this war with Iran is really creating

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a divide between NATO and the United States, Is it not?

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Well, I think it is, but it's taking us I

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think where Trump always wanted to go, even in his

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first administration. I think it's valuable for the for the

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listeners and viewers to know that our defense of Europe

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since World War Two has at actually allowed socialism in

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those countries to flourish. But they would be spending on

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their own defense. They have exactly socialism socialist programs and

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taking over various elements of their of their economies so

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that their their health systems are afforded by our being

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their defender in the feeding, so to speak. So I

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think it's time that the band Aid get ripped off

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with NATO, right that they they should be able to,

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you know, as much as governed themselves, also defend themselves.

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Right. You know, it's interesting because some of that dynamic

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can be relevant here in the United States because of

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certain things we do in this country. We've lost sight

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of our priorities. You know, we're spending an incredible amount

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of money on illegal immigration, uh, these DEI projects, and

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you know, these other goofy things that we're involved in.

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And meanwhile, our debt keeps, you know, growing by you know,

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by trillions. We're thirty nine trillion in counting, and and

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then Social Security is about to be bankrupt.

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Yes, and I would take this, I would take that

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a step further too. I think that you know that

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the reason we have such a problem is that all

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the wealth of the states are put into a central

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treasury and then redistributed, not based on the virtues of

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whatever state policy there is, whether that's California, Illinois, or Missouri. Right,

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it's just thrown out of Washington, d C. In a

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redistributionist scheme that you're right, affords illegal aliens their place

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in our society.

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They then we have a Then we have a subset

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of NGOs that come in and absorb that money. And

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then you know which really benefits the Democratic Party because

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it's created a machinery that ensures their reelection. Let's put

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it that way.

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Yes, it is, it is an you can say it's

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a it's a scheme on an industrial scale.

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Yes.

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That money goes out of the central Treasury through the

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administrative state, which the Democrat Party owns, right, all those agencies.

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Then it goes to all the recipients of dependency dollars

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from taxpayers to dependents, and then goes from them back

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to the Democrat Party. So it's how they profit bill.

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In our world, if you own a business, you have

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to make a product people want to buy. In the

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Democrat world, they have to take money from those people

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and give it to those who haven't earned it so

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they can stay in power.

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The fix is in. The fix is in Richard, That's

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what it is, and it's disgusting the remedy is a

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return to federalism.

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Tell me if you agree where every state individually has

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to take care of their own dependence. Right, If California

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had to pay itself for every dependent illegal alien in

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their state, they have different policy than being a sanctuary state. Right,

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And the persons who pay taxes would be in an uproar.

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Yeah, and it would probably be a death nail for socialism, Yes.

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It would absolutely be that.

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So again, the same thing that's happening in Europe. I mean,

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you look at what's happening in Europe right just to

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your point, and here we are, Yeah, yeah, because now

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you can you only have so much money and you

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have to prioritize and make sure that is actually working

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for you because you know, as you and I have

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been discussing in the recent months, is that you know

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you've got this this waste within you know, Blue states

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because the policies that they promote and then they're going

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to go to the red states. We're about fifty to

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fifty twenty five states or blue twenty five are red,

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and they're going to come to red states and say

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we're out of money, we need we need you to

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pay for our inefficiencies, and this is what Europe is doing.

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They're they're looking to the United States to cover their socialism.

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Yes, exactly, that's it. I hadn't thought about on that

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sort of scale, but it's very true. It has been

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for fifty years. I mean, it's even longer since World

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War Two.

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So so what are you and I the only geniuses

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on the planet that have figured this out or what?

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Well?

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I think I think there's a I think there there

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has to be ending this holier than now idea that

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the Democrats are always better because they're trying to take

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care of people. They're not. They're trying to set up

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a circular process where they stay in power because they

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get all the money back in their clawfers.

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And so.

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I think it needs that we need to federalize the

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system and stop redistributing out of Washington, DC.

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You know, it's amazing because.

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Kentucky and profit by their virtue.

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You know what you're saying here, Richard, is the same thing.

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You know, the Democrats have just refined this process, the

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systemic program that they've been able to develop. And you

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go back to even let's just say, you know, the

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mid sixties when LBJ. Said, Okay, we want to secure

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a voting block here having to be Black America, right,

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So they create they create a solution for a problem

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that didn't exist. That really, I mean, And it's so

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incredible to me because here we were, for all these

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years trying to get blacks out of slavery and telling

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them they're free. And what does Johnson do. He comes

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up with a program to modernize slavery and enslave the

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black people back again.

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It's you're exactly correct. And what happened was that Michael Harrington,

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one of his chief advisors, was a socialist, and he said,

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you have a whole block of dependent of people here

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that can be as reliable a vote as the un

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and you can pay them to stay that way. At

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the time, and this is what not many people know Bill.

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At the time, African American salaries were rising in tandem

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equal to every other race in America. After that happened

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when the Democrat Party Great Society Solution destroyed the African

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American family, it went like this, Yeah, everybody else prospered,

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and the African American wage earner went through the floor

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because they stayed at home.

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Yeah, well, and look at their population growth Richard, Yeah,

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I mean Planned Parenthood. I mean they devastated. You get

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the government devastating Black America. You get Planned Parenthood coming

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and killing their babies. And look where they are right now.

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I mean, you know Bob Woodson who's done an incredible

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study on this and shows it, you know, in dark

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empirical data, and it's amazing that you know, people like

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Jesse Jackson and these other race hustlers came in and

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you know, and of course the Poverty Law Center as well.

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And of course that's why the Poverty Law Center got

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caught with their hand in the cookie jar, because they're

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freaking out going, hey, we're losing our reason to exist.

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So we don't read something in the country, right, let's

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finance it really bad stuff. And you're right, but they've

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made a they've made careers out of their position in

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the Democrat Party to get the windfall of funds that

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go to them because they take up the cause of

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plant literally plantationing. Yes, the African African American community throughout

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the country.

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And why should we be surprised because look at even

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when you know blacks were enslaved, they were enslaved initially

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by other blacks. I'll tell I'll tell you what. Let's

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go to break. We'll pick it up on the other side.

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author of dNaM, Democrats and The Shadows of the Acropolis.

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And but by the chance of wore his latest book. Anyway, Richard,

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let's let's pick it up. What we're talking about is

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how this this systemic program has taken full advantage of

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you know, of the American people and our our treasury,

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and you know, and and also the peapeople who have

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been subject to it. And in this case we're talking

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Black America.

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Yeah, the only people who have benefited by this are

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politicians in the Democrat Party and persons who run these NGOs.

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As you said, though, and you know, it's funny back

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in the sixties when when all this was happening, where

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the redistribution was going from those who earn to those

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who don't, and in the corraling of the African American population,

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there was a guy, Stokely Carmichael, who was an activist

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and he said, this is absolutely crazy. It's like Jews

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voting for the Nazis. Yeah, you know, we voting for

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the persons who the party that from the beginning of

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the country was the enslavement party, the party that was

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the Jim pro Party then became the party that destroyed

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the African American family. Right, it's it's remarkable in our history.

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It's really an outlier. It's but it's how the Democra

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Party has built itself and all the parties throughout Europe

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that are socialists in their nature, the more people they

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can bring in and in Europe it's all the europe

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populations and make dependent. The more they have a living

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army there they can call on at any time to

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go march. In our case it's bing lemin Antifa. Sure,

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go down and burn down a city, and that sure

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helps the African Americans, does not.

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Right, exactly well, and look at now the latest group

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that's in their net are the Somalis. You know, with

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a base of some eighty thousand, right, they own questions,

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they own the state.

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Yeah, that's enough to turn the election from being conservative

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to being liberal or socialists. And that's why in Indieapolis,

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where they are right.

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All the office holder and most of America, I believe,

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you know, looks and sees elan O. Marin says, how yeah, right, exactly,

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and she doesn't she doesn't exactly have you know, the

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best intelligence to be in her office.

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I mean, she thinks we're just coming out of World

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War eleven. Yeah, she didn't even she didn't know the

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World war that we freed Europe with. And then but

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that but this is the case. So we free Europe

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from World War two, right, and socialism.

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Not to be confused with World War eleven, but.

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Of Muscolini and Hitler, right, and saved them from Russia

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which was ready to take over Europe, and saved it

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through the Cold War. But then we're allowing it, we're

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actually covering the whole that part of the continent and

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allowing it to become socialists because they don't have to

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they don't have to suffer the effects of socialism. We

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pay for it.

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Yeah, yeah, it's it's insane. I gotta tell you right now,

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I'm in California, and I'm amazed. The free ways are

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busier than ever and people are paying over six dollars

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for a gallon of gas. A friend of mine. Your

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friend of mine said the other day, he was shocked.

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to zero, had to get to a gas station. He

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paid eight dollars and fifty cents for a gallon of

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gas here in California. It is absolutely ludicrous. And then

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you and I talked here recently. I mean, it's just

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so insane. All this stuff that goes goes on California

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has somebody who's looking out for the best interest. And

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Nick Shirley comes in exposes fraud, and the government says, oh, no,

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we can't have that. We've got to create a law

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that outlaws anybody, you know, revealing all this fraud that's

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going on in our state. And so just like David

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de Leighton, who you know, he finally got his case

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settled after ten years settled, they just let it go.

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I mean they got tired of just you know, this

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guy's legal bills were in excess of a half million dollars.

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He went to jail playing parenthood. Who did the illegal

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activity of selling baby barts. Nobody went to jail, and

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America is still giving them money.

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Well, here's the problem with it. The Democrats control the

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governmental institutions in those blue states. Yes, with that, they

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have a treasury for lawsuits that's without a bottom. You

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can look at it as how they attacked Trump with lawfare.

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The only reason he survived is because he has the

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amount of wealth he has to defend himself. Right, all

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Americans like you and I, if you're attacked by the government,

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it's over. I mean, as you said, ten years, it'll

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bankrupt you and it'll get you a prison term.

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And yeah, look look at all the jan six Americans.

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What happened to them? They didn't have the wherewithal and

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their in solitary confinement.

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And you know, just to go down in history is

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one of the greatest injustices ever.

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Yeah, and who's going to pay for that? Just like

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the same people that got away. They're not same people,

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but the same idea of these people that got away

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with killing over a million Americans with COVID. Right, there's

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no consequences lied through their teeth, through their mask, one

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two or three of them whatever.

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Right, no, very seriously in it. It had And that's

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another problem where you have a press that runs cover

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for bad actors. I mean, look at I mean, just

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take James Colby Yah. This guy is a horrible character

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in American history, and he is covered by the East

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made of hero. Yeah, they buy his books, they'll give

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him interviews, they'll have them give talks at Harvard. It's

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it's really the left. I don't think Bill really knows

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who they are. And that's the point of the second

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volume of the DNA of Democracy series that they really

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don't know by definition who they are anymore.

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Yeah, but it's killing the American Dream though, Richard. Yeah, Yeah,

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this is we're you know, they're not realizing the consequence.

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They're getting what they want. They want the disassembly of

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the American Dream and this democratic republic. You know, Barack

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Obama said, hey, look at fundamental change. You know, this

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is fundamental transformation of this country. And he ushered it

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into play and had eight years of you know, capturing

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our healthcare system, which is so bad. We knew was

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bad to begin with, and now it's even worse because.

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We're system any education system very much that he during

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his presidency, the government itself took over the financing of

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higher education, right Vladimir Lenin. No less a socialist than

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Vladimir Lenin said the two lynch pins to socialism being

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successful is to seize the healthcare industry and seize education.

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And that I mean, that's it's one of his quotes, right.

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Well, and it's not like, you know, the labor unions

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in the education administering complex, the industrial complex of it

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all hadn't been going on already for decades, because at

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the turn of the nineteenth century twentieth century, they went

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hull hog after it.

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Well, what occurred was Woodrow Wilson, who was a socialist

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and was president of Princeton. He famously said during the

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revolution in Russia, well, the Russians have it wrong. They're

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doing this by revolution. We can do it in America

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and get to the same end by evolution if we

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do it in little increments here and there. And so

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you had FDR who invaded the economy, and it's been

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you know, the government has had a board seat in

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every major boardroom in America since and that you had

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LBJ taking over education and redistributing wealth. Then you had

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Obama sealing the deal in healthcare and education. So this

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is it's been a game plan for a century.

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And here we are on the verge of celebrating our

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two hundred and fiftieth anniversary, and you know, arguably you

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could say it could be our last.

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Well I wouldn't say, I would say everybody, No, it

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sounds dire.

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I know it sounds extreme.

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Wake up Democrats more than anybody, right, because we're a

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hybrid country and we're fighting each other. And the bad

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point is where we have a problem is the Democrats

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now that they can't win at the election booth, rig elections.

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Failing that, they are turning to violence. Yes, whether it's

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against ice or whether it's assassination attempts. And about the

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federal debt bill. My great worry is they literally don't

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care if the economy crashes because it works in their favor. Right,

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then they can take over everything, as they did with

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fdu Are during the depression. It gives them a reason

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to control more.

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Well, maybe that's why we got then we got Maduro here,

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because America will become Venezuela and we'll already have somebody

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to lead the country. You know, he's got all this experience.

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Oh, I think Michelle Obama's you know, she's she's straining

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at the bit to control this country.

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Yeah, quite possibly. That's probably why she refused to take

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the nomination and become, you know, the first woman black president,

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you know, for the Democratic Party.

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I think I have my own theory. I think she

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was ready to go. But Pelosi kneecaptor and Biden kneecapped.

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They the Obamas were waiting for the convention, and they

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were saying, look, don't anybody do anything. Wait for the convention,

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because they were going to bring her on as a surprise,

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and every vote by acclamation it asked to be Michelle.

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But they got kneecapped by Biden, who they coued out.

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That's MOSI. For some reason, Pelosi turned against them and said, no,

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I'm for Kamala immediately right exactly. I think the Obama's

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were ready to go in again.

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We we got to have that discussion the next time

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we get together. We're out of time now. Richard Lyons

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has been our guest. He is the author of the

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DNA of Democracy, Shadows of the Acropolis, and by chance,

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but by the chance of war. Richard has always appreciate

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Well, good morning, welcome back Bill Markings here with the

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one and only Jeff Ken, the author and ministry speaker

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and former NFLQB And mister Jeff, are we doing?

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I'm good? How are you at?

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Bill?

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Hey, I'm doing terrific. I'm excited to share with you

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this idea that I believe God revealed to me. You know,

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when God gives you revelation, it's like you can't help

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but share it with others. And there was a question

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that came up here recently, and this pastor had talked

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about God withholding grace, you know, from us, And I

508
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don't think it's that God wishold grace as much as

509
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it is because we're free will agents again, and sometimes

510
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it's hard for us to understand. You know, Adam and

511
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Eve were free They were designed to be free will

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agents because you can't have true love if you don't

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have the free will to make a choice for love, right,

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And so God created us to have that freedom. And

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so what Adam and Eve decided to do was to

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make a bad choice. And that's a manifestation of love.

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Is you have the choice good or bad. You can

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have a choice and you make But if you make

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the wrong choice, then you can compromise your covenant with

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God and fall out of grace. It's not that God

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decides to deprive you of it. It's just that in

522
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our own honorariness, in our own arrogance, we move out

523
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from under submission the covenant. And so submission is being

524
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under the protection of So when you're under the protection

525
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of God, God like gravity, you do what God says

526
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about gravity. You don't violate it. Gravity is a good thing.

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If you violate gravity, you fall off the roof and

528
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you get bruised up and break some legs and hurt yourself.

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That's not a good thing. But God, in his manifested love,

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allows us to make that choice. And so this was

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something that God had revealed to me, and I thought, wow,

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this makes so much sense because when you think of God,

533
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he's the same yesterday and forever right. He doesn't change,

534
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he doesn't lie, So everything is set. It's all It's

535
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a system that God has established for our good, that

536
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when we operate in those boundaries, it goes well for us.

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He says, that will receive the full blessing of the

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covenant relationship that He designed for us to have. We

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go out from beneath that because we think we have

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a better way. Like Adam and Eve, though they were

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influenced by the devil himself, thought okay, well maybe this

542
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is a better way, a wrong choice, but that's you know,

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when it comes to true love. That's true love that

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allows you to make the choice. And then we learn

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in that in the choices that we make, we learn

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about God's love. We learn about this and then we

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realize what it says in the New Testament that those

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who know God experientially by making bad choices do mighty exploits.

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So what do you think.

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I think the principle that you're speaking about lines up

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with what Jesus said. The truths us set you free, right,

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and the truth is aligning with reality. Is God's set

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it up right. And so when we follow God's way,

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it sets us free to experience the type of life

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that he wanted us to experience. Exactly if we step

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out of truth, which is God's ways, then we have

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consequences and relationships break up, just as from God grows

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et cetera.

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Yeah, because God, he designed us to be in communion

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with him, Right, and you imagine when we're communing with God, Hey,

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all is well, right, regardless in the midst about how

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crazy and wacky the world may be, but we're communing

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with God. And this is how you come to that point.

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Like Paul said, I've learned to become content no matter

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the condition.

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Right.

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Yeah, I know that the greatest freedom that a human

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has is the freedom to be the noble, other, centered, loving, gracious,

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made in the image of God person that He designed

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us to be. But we know that because of that

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rebellious choice, Aboudam and even all of us, the sin

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nature that we are born with, we.

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Don't normally live like that.

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So we really need to align with God to get

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his presence inside of us, so then we can live

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up to living His way. The Ten Commandments set us free.

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If we didn't follow the Ten Commandments, we would be

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trapped by not just the sin, the separations from God,

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but the consequences of ruining relationships with one another, murder, stealing,

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lying the lack of civility, right, families wouldn't stick together.

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So God's ways lead to shalom, that comprehensive peace of

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thriving in God's way. So you know, and also you know,

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you started this whole thing by saying God is gracious

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and that he gives us the freedom to love him

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and obey or not love him and not obey. Right,

586
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And it's really not love if you twist someone's arm

587
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and say you will do everything I say and you

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will love me.

589
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You know that's that's not love.

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You mean you mean tell me that's not the perfect marriage, Jeff.

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I think it didn't work in years for the first

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thirty years. Same here. Anyway, God will give people what

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00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:07.799
they deeply want and ask. And if they want independence

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from him and they want to be their own God

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00:34:11.079 --> 00:34:13.679
and they want to make the rules, then they're going

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to end up with the consequences that which is separation

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00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:22.400
from love, separation from truth, separation from God, and it

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00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:25.679
could end up in eternity, separated from God. He doesn't

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00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:28.960
force or send people to hell. People choose hell when

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they say no to God. And you know, all of

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us are trusting that the people who do not know

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00:34:34.679 --> 00:34:38.000
God around us were praying that they would come by

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00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:42.079
God's spirit to know Him before they pass away. But

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God isn't going to force people away from him. He

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gives them what they want. And I pray that more

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people would realize, man, without God, my life is messed up.

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I'm not a good God. I'm not a good boss.

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I'm not a good owner of my life. I want

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God as the owner of my life, benevolent and kind

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than me.

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And that's what I've been learning.

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God is so much cooler, so much nicer, so much

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more creative and loving and benefit, you know, benevolent than me.

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Why would I try to hold on to certain parts

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of my life and not let God control them.

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Let God be the owner of your life. Surrender exactly

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because you know, we hear often this these days, that

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what we need is love and throughout our life, Jeff,

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that was it, you know, Beatles songs and other songs

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of artists and everything. You know, the theme always came back,

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you know about love and you know and this is

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this is the manifestation of true love that God, God

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gives us an example of is that he gives us

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the freedom to to make that choice, to choose to

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love him and to come into communion with him. He's

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not going to force you to do it. And just

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like you said, and and we we can learn from

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that ourselves in our relationships with others. We don't force

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thembody into our political you know, persuasion or whatever it is.

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You know, we don't want to force somebody to do it.

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But hey, you know, if you want to sit down

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and reason together and talk about some difficult things, awesome.

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You know, let's let's do that in a spirit of

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love and respect and consideration. As God says, Hey, look

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at you know, let's reason together, right.

636
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Yep.

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The sermon I heard this weekend at my son's church

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over in Nashville, the pastor made a great point about

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humanity became so evil that God had to blood the

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whole earth and start all over with Noah and his family.

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But he set a sign the rainbow to say, I

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will never judge the whole earth and wipe them out

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like that. Again, God is just, and he is also gracious,

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and the rainbow, his promise to never wipe us out,

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was an example of his grace. And the pastor said,

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the rainbow is in an arc, just like a bow

647
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and arrow would be. But which direction is that Phieroh going.

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It would be going up into heaven. And it's almost

649
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like sin and rebellion requires just punishment, which we know

650
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Jesus was the just punishment on the cross. It's like

651
00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:16.280
God shoots the arrow of justice and punishment at himself

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for what we humans have done. And if that isn't

653
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the ultimate of a gracious God, I don't know what is.

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God takes the punishment for us, gives us the promise

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that he will never flood and wipe out the earth again.

656
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And your path back to me is that I will

657
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take the punishment. I will launch the arrow of justice

658
00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:41.480
at myself and sacrifice my son on the cross. So

659
00:37:41.599 --> 00:37:43.639
think of the rainbow that way next time you see it.

660
00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:47.480
Yeah, And like you said, just like what happened to Calvary,

661
00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:51.440
he took it all upon himself. And here it is, Jesus.

662
00:37:51.679 --> 00:37:54.360
He didn't just take the sins of that time. You

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00:37:54.400 --> 00:37:57.880
know that moment in time, He took this the entirety

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of sins that were heart of you know, God's creation

665
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from day one, going forward to twenty twenty six and beyond, Jeff,

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all of.

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History, every bit of mine and every bit of every

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person on earth. It's unfathomable. But only a completely perfect

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man would have the life that was worth on sacrifice

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that could wipe out all of our sin. And that

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is Jesus, the perfect sacrificial lamp.

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And only a loving God would give us that kind

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of solution. A loving God. That's it is so unimaginable

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and so difficult in our humanity to understand, but he

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proves time and time again that though we were sinners,

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he demonstrates his love for us, and he comes to

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save us. That's that's amazing. Jeff. We got to wrap

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it and leave it up there. So where can people

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be in touch with you?

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They can find me at Jeff kempteam dot com Jeff

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kempteam dot com.

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Well, good morning and welcome. Glad you joined us. Bill

762
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Martinez here and back with us is doctor Sharon Ford.

763
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She's the director of Adoption in foster care and perfect

764
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timing because the month of May is National Foster Care Month.

765
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Doctor Ford, good to have you back with us.

766
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How are you, thank you, Bill for having me on

767
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your program today.

768
00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:19.480
Well, good to be talking about, you know, foster families

769
00:43:19.679 --> 00:43:23.280
and the need to you talk about wrap around support

770
00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:26.960
and what that means. Maybe explain to our audience what

771
00:43:27.320 --> 00:43:29.519
you mean by wrap around support.

772
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:35.519
Well, just think about I like hot dogs, and particularly

773
00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:38.079
hot dogs on the summer grill, and you take that

774
00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:41.400
bun and you wrap that bun around that hot dog,

775
00:43:41.599 --> 00:43:44.159
you know, And so that's what I think about for

776
00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:48.559
foster families who are caring for our vulnerable children right

777
00:43:48.599 --> 00:43:51.960
there in their own backyard, that there are people at

778
00:43:51.960 --> 00:43:56.079
their church, people in their small group, people in their community,

779
00:43:56.159 --> 00:44:00.639
their family who can wrap those supportive services around that

780
00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:04.559
family who's caring for a vulnerable child, And it's going

781
00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:07.480
to make all the difference in the world for not

782
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:11.400
only that child, but for that family. Can you imagine

783
00:44:11.440 --> 00:44:15.360
Bill that someone says, you know what, every Wednesday or

784
00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:20.599
Thursday night, don't worry about cooking. Our family is going

785
00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:22.719
to treat you. We're going to bring you a meal,

786
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:25.400
and you're gonna have given them. Well, gosh, my family

787
00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:29.440
likes pizza with pepperoni or with pineapple on it. Oh,

788
00:44:29.800 --> 00:44:32.760
we like our spaghetti with mushrooms in it, or we

789
00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:37.199
like boy, we like stew even in the summertime. We're

790
00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:40.159
like a good stew or a good soup. And so

791
00:44:40.199 --> 00:44:42.159
they get a list and they go, you know what,

792
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two nights a week, don't worry about cooking. We've got

793
00:44:46.239 --> 00:44:49.239
you covered. That makes all the difference in the world

794
00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:51.519
for that family to be able to say, you know what,

795
00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:56.400
people care about us, right, and they care about you,

796
00:44:56.679 --> 00:44:59.519
the child who we've welcomed into our home. It makes

797
00:44:59.519 --> 00:44:59.960
a difference.

798
00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:05.800
Well, it's a community effort, isn't it when people are isolated?

799
00:45:05.800 --> 00:45:08.039
And of course the thing is is when you participate

800
00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:11.199
in this. You know, when you are a blessing, you

801
00:45:11.280 --> 00:45:17.639
are blessed right, Yes, yes, God God's economy of things.

802
00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:18.920
I love it, you know it.

803
00:45:18.800 --> 00:45:21.559
Is See, He gives to us so that we can

804
00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:25.039
give to others. And what a wonderful way of giving

805
00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:28.159
to others in the community than serving a family who's

806
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:32.679
fostering a hurting child. And it's not just about giving money,

807
00:45:33.119 --> 00:45:36.760
but giving your time, giving your efforts. And something that's

808
00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:41.000
so impactful is giving your prayer time. Would you remember

809
00:45:41.079 --> 00:45:44.960
to add a foster family in your community to your

810
00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:48.559
prayer list. Pray for the husband who's the protector in

811
00:45:48.599 --> 00:45:51.800
the home. Pray for the wife who's there helping with

812
00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:55.599
the children, nurturing them. Pray for the bio siblings that

813
00:45:55.679 --> 00:45:59.280
are also in the home who said, yeah, mom and dad,

814
00:45:59.519 --> 00:46:03.199
sure can take another kid in. We can share our

815
00:46:03.239 --> 00:46:05.880
toys and mom and dad, we can share you with

816
00:46:06.039 --> 00:46:06.840
these kids.

817
00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:07.519
Right.

818
00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:12.280
Yeah, talk about a family the family serves together when

819
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:13.199
they're fostering.

820
00:46:13.800 --> 00:46:16.320
Well, you know, to hear you talk about this, it

821
00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:18.480
reminds me of the metaphor the dead sea, as you know,

822
00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:21.639
the dead sea. The reason is dead is everything comes

823
00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:25.079
in but doesn't go out. It all just stays right

824
00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:28.480
there in the same place, right And sometimes as humanoids,

825
00:46:28.599 --> 00:46:30.800
we can be like the dead sea. We just take

826
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:33.360
it in and it just you know, we don't even

827
00:46:33.400 --> 00:46:37.800
realize how much we stink because the stuff that God

828
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:40.480
has given us is not blowing out to others. And

829
00:46:40.519 --> 00:46:42.199
this is the benefit. You know, we want to be

830
00:46:42.239 --> 00:46:45.480
alive and God creates us to be alive when we

831
00:46:45.639 --> 00:46:49.199
are a giving agent, when we're an agent to the

832
00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:51.559
rest of the community. I mean, you know the things

833
00:46:51.559 --> 00:46:54.960
that you just talked about, you know, focus on the family.

834
00:46:55.000 --> 00:46:57.559
God bless all your efforts. I mean last year almost

835
00:46:57.639 --> 00:47:01.960
a half million Foster households a lot of people to

836
00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:05.480
you know, be invested in, to participate in. But also

837
00:47:05.519 --> 00:47:07.480
I think that's a lot of blessings that are going

838
00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:08.960
out there right both way.

839
00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:11.880
Yes, it is right, you know, I just think about

840
00:47:11.920 --> 00:47:14.840
all the families who said, yes, God, you can use

841
00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:18.800
my family. Because everybody's not called to foster. Going to

842
00:47:18.800 --> 00:47:21.719
make that clear bill, but everybody's called to do something.

843
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:25.039
If you can cook, if you can clean, if you

844
00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:27.480
can rake leaves in the yard if you can come

845
00:47:27.519 --> 00:47:32.599
and cut the grass so dad can have date morning

846
00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:35.119
daytime with his wife. They're going to go out and

847
00:47:35.159 --> 00:47:37.880
have coffee, but your you and your kids are gonna

848
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:41.320
come over and cut the grass. Whoo yeah, more time,

849
00:47:41.440 --> 00:47:43.880
more time. But what if you're doing the whole helping

850
00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:47.039
do the homework for the kids who were in foster care.

851
00:47:47.159 --> 00:47:50.320
Maybe you're sitting down reading with them. Every Tuesday evening,

852
00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:52.880
you come and you let them read aloud and you

853
00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:56.800
read with them, and it helps that child grow. But

854
00:47:56.880 --> 00:48:00.239
that's time that that couple who's opened their heart, open

855
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:04.199
their home can have time for themselves. Because the marriage

856
00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:08.000
makes a difference. We want to continue to support that marriage,

857
00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:11.119
support that family so that they can support the kids.

858
00:48:11.440 --> 00:48:13.280
Yeah, because here they are, I mean, they're taking on

859
00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:16.199
a load here so to speak, right, and so we

860
00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:18.199
need to help them carry that load. And you mentioned

861
00:48:18.239 --> 00:48:20.639
all these things, which is you know, I'm thinking our

862
00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:22.480
audience is probably think, you know, I hadn't even thought

863
00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:25.920
about that. And even you know, can you give five

864
00:48:25.960 --> 00:48:29.079
minutes a prayer? Can you include them on your prayer list?

865
00:48:29.599 --> 00:48:32.199
I mean, and you'd be surprised, you know how that

866
00:48:32.360 --> 00:48:34.480
is going to bless you. But this is all part

867
00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:39.119
of the engagement element of what Focus does and is

868
00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:42.000
committed to with foster homes, right.

869
00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:45.440
It is it is that engagement piece is so important.

870
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:49.280
Christ engages us and then we take what he gives

871
00:48:49.360 --> 00:48:51.800
us and we share it with someone else. And that's

872
00:48:52.119 --> 00:48:55.199
the next piece to that is support. Remember I talked

873
00:48:55.199 --> 00:48:59.039
about cooking and cleaning, right, some people really do like

874
00:48:59.159 --> 00:49:05.480
to clean, and boy, we invite them over. Oh okay, I'll

875
00:49:05.480 --> 00:49:08.679
sweep them off your floor, I'll do dishes. And so

876
00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:12.519
Friday evenings, you guys go ahead and go out, and

877
00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:15.599
I've got the kids, I've got the kitchen, and so

878
00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:17.719
there's there's four of us that are going to be

879
00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:20.800
in your home. Take but you know us because we're

880
00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:25.800
in community, we're in relationship, and that keeps that family

881
00:49:26.280 --> 00:49:30.400
motivated continuing to encourage them and support them to do

882
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:34.199
the heavy lift of caring for vulnerable children.

883
00:49:34.679 --> 00:49:36.920
You know, Sharon, I love people who have the gift

884
00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:41.039
of organization. Right. They'll come into a house and you're going, hey,

885
00:49:41.039 --> 00:49:42.599
this is all cool. I don't have a problem with this.

886
00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:45.079
And they come in and they bring order to the

887
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:48.840
you didn't even know you had chaos, right, and they

888
00:49:48.920 --> 00:49:52.159
come in and in five minutes, everything is in order.

889
00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:53.960
It's a place here, it is. You know, it takes

890
00:49:54.000 --> 00:49:55.760
a little bit of adjustment because you're kind of used

891
00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:58.159
to the chaos. But all of a sudden you find

892
00:49:58.159 --> 00:50:01.000
you go, oh my goodness, this there's order all because

893
00:50:01.320 --> 00:50:04.119
a neighbor or somebody in the support group who is

894
00:50:04.239 --> 00:50:07.639
gifted with this. Oh my goodness, they're they're they're worth

895
00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:08.920
their weight in gold, aren't they?

896
00:50:09.239 --> 00:50:11.480
They sure are. You know, there's some people who are

897
00:50:11.480 --> 00:50:14.400
ready for spring cleaning. I know that it's here in

898
00:50:14.440 --> 00:50:17.400
the month of May. Boy, come over and help me

899
00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:21.840
get the bat the clothes ready to go to goodwill

900
00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:24.800
or the thrift store, or to donate to the clothing

901
00:50:24.840 --> 00:50:28.480
closet closet at church. Help come in and thin out

902
00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:31.320
my closet. Boy, What a wonderful support that would be.

903
00:50:31.880 --> 00:50:35.840
And then wait, there's some garages that might need some reordering.

904
00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:41.000
Talk about being organized. Help dad reorganize that that garage

905
00:50:41.039 --> 00:50:44.039
so that he knows where all his tools are and

906
00:50:44.119 --> 00:50:47.800
everything straight. And so Mom's not saying where is that,

907
00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:50.920
where's this? Where's that? It's right there in the garage.

908
00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:54.360
It's hanging up. Come help dad. He needs a little

909
00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:55.000
support too.

910
00:50:55.559 --> 00:50:57.760
You know, it's interesting you bring up a spring cleaning

911
00:50:58.320 --> 00:51:00.960
because I just, you know, saw it is just a

912
00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:04.960
general term until I realize that it's scriptural. You know,

913
00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:08.119
God calls us to you know, take this period of

914
00:51:08.159 --> 00:51:11.159
time and to do some spring cleaning, to you know,

915
00:51:11.360 --> 00:51:13.920
review where we are, the chaos, you know that maybe

916
00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:16.880
has crept in, and to go in and deal with

917
00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:20.199
this and that we're always you know, so much better.

918
00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:23.159
And there seems it's amazing how a load you know

919
00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:25.519
I mentioned a load, how that is lifted off of

920
00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:29.039
us after a you know, a time of spring cleaning, right?

921
00:51:29.559 --> 00:51:30.000
It is?

922
00:51:30.199 --> 00:51:31.920
It is? It is, Bill boy.

923
00:51:32.280 --> 00:51:32.519
You know.

924
00:51:33.239 --> 00:51:36.480
Encouragement, I can't. There are some people who have the

925
00:51:36.480 --> 00:51:40.039
gift of encouragement. They when they sit with you and

926
00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:44.679
they just remind you that God's all over you, that

927
00:51:44.679 --> 00:51:48.000
that God sees you, that God hears you, that they

928
00:51:48.039 --> 00:51:51.480
are there to support you with words. There sometimes they're

929
00:51:51.519 --> 00:51:54.440
just there to hear, to support you with a cup

930
00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:58.360
of coffee, to let you listen to you and then

931
00:51:58.400 --> 00:52:01.440
as they listen to you, remember to lift those things

932
00:52:01.519 --> 00:52:04.199
before the Lord in prayer. Sup boy, I can't tell

933
00:52:04.239 --> 00:52:09.360
you how engagement connecting with a family, wrapping those supportive

934
00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:13.599
services around a family, and then encouraging someone. We all

935
00:52:13.639 --> 00:52:16.960
need encouragement, some of us. Boy in the when it's

936
00:52:17.320 --> 00:52:20.639
late evening, you know, nine ten o'clock, the kids, have

937
00:52:20.880 --> 00:52:24.719
you finally got them in bed? You're finally There's some

938
00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:28.519
single foster parents out there. They need to hear another

939
00:52:28.599 --> 00:52:32.400
adult voice who says, you know what God sees you.

940
00:52:33.199 --> 00:52:37.199
You're not forgotten, because it's so easy to be isolated.

941
00:52:37.239 --> 00:52:40.760
But God says we are connected and we are interconnected

942
00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:43.719
with Him. And so the body of Christ is that

943
00:52:43.880 --> 00:52:48.039
hospitality station. That the Body of Christ is that first

944
00:52:48.079 --> 00:52:52.360
aid station. So give some support, to give some encouragement

945
00:52:53.480 --> 00:52:56.199
to those single foster parents as well, because they don't

946
00:52:56.199 --> 00:52:58.559
have a maid in the home. They need that extra

947
00:52:58.960 --> 00:53:01.679
boost to keep on doing and keep on going in

948
00:53:01.760 --> 00:53:03.280
Christ Jesus exactly.

949
00:53:03.280 --> 00:53:05.960
And doctor fort I think that again, unless you've been

950
00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:11.599
engaged with foster care, you really have little idea of

951
00:53:11.639 --> 00:53:15.280
what these adults deal with the children, how they've been

952
00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:19.920
bruised and beat up and wounded by their circumstances. And

953
00:53:20.320 --> 00:53:22.840
then these families, like you said, it's not just the

954
00:53:22.880 --> 00:53:25.440
mom and Dad, it's the kids, it's the entire family

955
00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:28.800
come in and say hey, look at you know, yeah,

956
00:53:28.920 --> 00:53:31.920
we want to help, We want to contribute. And as

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you say, the blessing is available for those neighbors who

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are nearby that say hey, look at we can be

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a helping hand. We can all participate in this because

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you don't you don't know the individual stories necessarily, because

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even the parents themselves are discovering as the child come in.

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We have enough, We have enough challenge in some cases

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trying to discover the challenges our own kids are going

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through much less these kids who come in with various

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you know, wounds and backgrounds that are unimaginable. Right, we

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got about forty seconds last, so I'll let you wrap

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it up. Go ahead.

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Well, Bill, I'm just so grateful for your listeners that

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they care about the children in their community. And so

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every child needs an adult who's speaking positive things in

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their life, and so I'm thankful that your listeners are

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there just not only be there for the children, but

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be there for the families who are caring for these children.

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Those your words of encouragement, your words of support, make

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a difference. If you ever want to reach us don't

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hesitate to call to go to email us at contact

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us on our website. Wait no more dot org, Wait

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no more dot org and you can reach me and

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I'd be happy to answer your questions.

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There, Doc Sharon Ford, You're always a blessing. Thank you

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so much. May ladies and gentlemen is National Fostercare month.

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Doctor Ford is the director of Adoption and foster Care.

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And do take her up on it. You know you

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can email her, get in with her and you be

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surprised at how much how many blessings are waiting there

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for you and just waiting for your participation, right, doctor Ford.

987
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That's correct. Thank you again, Bill for having me today.

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Take care. God bless you time.

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Hey, good morning to you. Six minutes after Topy hor

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Right now, Bill Martinez here with the infamous John O'Connor. Uh, John,

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good morning, How are you bode? Good to have you

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with us? Of course, Uh? John is lencoland list, author

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of Postgate. How the Washington Post portrayed Deep Droad. And

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of course you know we talked many times about you

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know what happened with Watergate, and of course say, you

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know what I always love about politicals always say we

1020
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want to make sure this never happens again. Well, it's

1021
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not like Watergate happened again exactly exactually worse than ever

1022
00:57:08.760 --> 00:57:10.280
with what they did with Donald Trump.

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00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:15.000
Right, Well, there's no comparison of what happened in Watergate

1024
00:57:15.239 --> 00:57:19.880
is time store, compared to what happened to Trump in

1025
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the first term. Especially, you know, that's really that's really

1026
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serious stuff. John.

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Is that ever going to be resolved or is it

1028
00:57:30.559 --> 00:57:33.559
just you know, because you know, people like Obama who

1029
00:57:33.639 --> 00:57:37.000
has been untouchable, they don't want to confront. But there's

1030
00:57:37.039 --> 00:57:42.639
just so much smoke here around all the interference, you know,

1031
00:57:42.760 --> 00:57:46.280
the violation of the you know, the traditional transformation of

1032
00:57:46.360 --> 00:57:49.039
power that the Democrats like to talk about, but they

1033
00:57:49.119 --> 00:57:53.280
totally obliterated this, you know, when Donald Trump took you know,

1034
00:57:53.440 --> 00:57:55.239
took office the first time around.

1035
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I hate to say this, Bill, but you know, I've

1036
00:57:58.639 --> 00:58:00.639
been sort of the bearer of bad news on this.

1037
00:58:01.800 --> 00:58:05.079
While there is some sliver of hope that a really

1038
00:58:05.159 --> 00:58:08.880
good prosecutor can really get to this rushing collusion thing

1039
00:58:09.199 --> 00:58:12.440
within the statute of limitations, and I've talked about that

1040
00:58:12.480 --> 00:58:15.039
it all depends on hooking things up to John Brennan's

1041
00:58:15.079 --> 00:58:18.440
testimony in twenty twenty three. But if you put that

1042
00:58:19.119 --> 00:58:22.000
sort of it's a long shot, but not an absurd

1043
00:58:22.039 --> 00:58:25.159
long shot. I think it's doable. But if you go

1044
00:58:25.239 --> 00:58:29.079
beyond that, you have to rest with the nostrum that

1045
00:58:29.159 --> 00:58:32.440
we have some very good criminals here. As they say,

1046
00:58:32.800 --> 00:58:35.920
you know, it takes a thief to catch a thief. Well,

1047
00:58:36.239 --> 00:58:38.719
you know, in this case, people in the FBI are

1048
00:58:38.800 --> 00:58:46.719
very good at seeing how good criminals evade things, evade responsibility,

1049
00:58:47.159 --> 00:58:50.079
and they're very good at it themselves. They are armed

1050
00:58:50.119 --> 00:58:54.159
with all sorts of privileges. They are armed with the

1051
00:58:54.199 --> 00:58:58.280
ability to control information, control their files and so forth,

1052
00:58:58.320 --> 00:59:01.519
and so on, what not to put in writing, and

1053
00:59:01.559 --> 00:59:04.440
what to put in writing and cover it. So it's

1054
00:59:04.480 --> 00:59:06.760
not as though these are like other people who are

1055
00:59:06.840 --> 00:59:11.800
unskilled when they commit crimes. These guys are very skilled

1056
00:59:12.039 --> 00:59:18.920
and comy especially and McCabe his assistant, left very few fingerprints,

1057
00:59:18.960 --> 00:59:21.920
none of their own fingerprints, right, and you have to

1058
00:59:21.960 --> 00:59:25.360
infer from fingerprints of others that they also knew. So

1059
00:59:26.159 --> 00:59:29.760
it's it's it's the problem is when you have someone

1060
00:59:29.800 --> 00:59:33.000
in that position, they're going to get away with a lot, right.

1061
00:59:33.280 --> 00:59:38.280
Well, Don Dan Mangino said that, you know, they he

1062
00:59:38.440 --> 00:59:41.039
found things there at the FBI that he wasn't supposed

1063
00:59:41.039 --> 00:59:44.599
to find, spent you know, several hours, up to four

1064
00:59:44.639 --> 00:59:47.840
hours going through some of this document and he just

1065
00:59:48.519 --> 00:59:53.079
you know, was amazed. I guess maybe not all that surprise, because,

1066
00:59:53.320 --> 00:59:56.639
like you said, you know the nature of you know,

1067
00:59:56.719 --> 01:00:00.199
the FBI and the inner workings of the intelligence communit.

1068
01:00:01.199 --> 01:00:03.079
You know, they know how to play the get out

1069
01:00:03.079 --> 01:00:03.800
of jail card.

1070
01:00:05.199 --> 01:00:08.679
Yeah, let's think about this bill here. Trump gets elected

1071
01:00:08.679 --> 01:00:11.880
in twenty twenty four, takes office in early twenty twenty five,

1072
01:00:12.639 --> 01:00:16.880
and soon Bongino discovers a trove of information that it

1073
01:00:17.000 --> 01:00:19.360
was supposed to have been destroyed I think by the FBI.

1074
01:00:20.119 --> 01:00:22.280
But what it does is it goes back to twenty

1075
01:00:22.440 --> 01:00:26.679
sixteen in twenty seventeen, where they're plotting to take down Trump,

1076
01:00:26.679 --> 01:00:30.000
and there's documents there that are pretty darn clear about it,

1077
01:00:31.000 --> 01:00:32.639
and they don't have all of them because some of

1078
01:00:32.639 --> 01:00:36.320
them are CIA type not available there in the files.

1079
01:00:36.679 --> 01:00:39.920
But nonetheless, what do you do now you've found it

1080
01:00:39.920 --> 01:00:43.960
in twenty sixteen, in twenty seventeen, for ins Let me

1081
01:00:43.960 --> 01:00:45.840
give you one for instance, And this is just an

1082
01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:48.840
obvious one that nobody's done much with. But when they

1083
01:00:48.880 --> 01:00:53.719
were forming the Special Council's Group, the Mueller Group, to

1084
01:00:53.800 --> 01:00:59.480
go after Trump, and there had been a ridiculous special

1085
01:00:59.519 --> 01:01:02.920
Council set up, which was illegal for various reasons. But

1086
01:01:02.960 --> 01:01:06.960
nonetheless they were trying to form that team. And the

1087
01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:10.039
Peter Stroke was an FBI agent at a very high

1088
01:01:10.159 --> 01:01:14.199
level who was in charge with investigating the original charges

1089
01:01:14.239 --> 01:01:17.400
of Russian collusion and Russian impact on the election. He'd

1090
01:01:17.400 --> 01:01:21.599
been through it, and he wrote his paramore, I don't

1091
01:01:21.639 --> 01:01:24.360
know if I want to join this team on this

1092
01:01:24.480 --> 01:01:29.159
Russian collusion thing, because there's no there there. He knew

1093
01:01:29.239 --> 01:01:34.639
already that the whole Steele dossier, the whole Russian collusion thing,

1094
01:01:34.800 --> 01:01:37.559
was a hoax invented by Hillary. Now he more or

1095
01:01:37.599 --> 01:01:40.360
less said that in an email. Nonetheless, he ended up

1096
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joining the team. And I think he only got kicked

1097
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off when people discovered his emails with his paramour. But nonetheless,

1098
01:01:47.920 --> 01:01:51.320
that's a good idea. This is a guy that's obviously

1099
01:01:51.360 --> 01:01:55.599
a smart guy, smart FBI agent, very capable. I mean,

1100
01:01:55.639 --> 01:01:58.519
whatever you think about him, he's a capable guy. And

1101
01:01:58.559 --> 01:02:01.960
he knew there was nothing to this. And he also knew,

1102
01:02:02.079 --> 01:02:05.679
and they all knew by the way that when the

1103
01:02:05.719 --> 01:02:09.599
Special Council's investigation had been set up, that it was

1104
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done so illegally. You could only set up a special

1105
01:02:13.159 --> 01:02:16.760
Council investigation if you have probable cause of a crime.

1106
01:02:17.599 --> 01:02:20.920
The regulations say that don't you just willy nilly call

1107
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a special counsel and go around your Department of Justice

1108
01:02:24.679 --> 01:02:28.960
unless there's a crime and be a crime that creates

1109
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a conflict of interest such that you need a special council.

1110
01:02:32.639 --> 01:02:36.000
There was no crime because the investigation Comy had been

1111
01:02:36.079 --> 01:02:43.239
conducting was a counterintelligence operation, an intelligence investigation, which of

1112
01:02:43.280 --> 01:02:47.679
course was itself just started up. But nonetheless you can

1113
01:02:47.760 --> 01:02:52.079
do those investigations. Those aren't criminal investigations. I could decide,

1114
01:02:52.119 --> 01:02:54.920
if I were in the FBI that Bill Martinez might

1115
01:02:54.920 --> 01:02:58.000
be a Russian spy, and for no reason at all

1116
01:02:58.079 --> 01:03:01.920
other than maybe he drank stolen vodka. So then I

1117
01:03:02.000 --> 01:03:05.199
go and I do it investigation. Well, that doesn't mean

1118
01:03:05.239 --> 01:03:08.480
there's a criminal charge. That doesn't mean anything. So you

1119
01:03:08.559 --> 01:03:15.039
cannot say that a special council investigation can be predicated

1120
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on my suspicions that Bill Martinez as a Russian agent.

1121
01:03:18.320 --> 01:03:20.480
You have to have something else for a special council

1122
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it's a criminal investigation as opposed to But nobody understood

1123
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that at the time. Trump was not sophisticated enough to

1124
01:03:28.480 --> 01:03:31.760
publicize it, call me knew exactly what he was doing,

1125
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and give me what.

1126
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About the other people around Trump? John, They weren't advising

1127
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him to this end. I mean, you know, with you

1128
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this is all pretty academic and it all makes sense.

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But how could Trump, being the president of the United States,

1130
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not have anybody within his inner circle that could advise

1131
01:03:51.280 --> 01:03:51.960
him accordingly?

1132
01:03:54.559 --> 01:03:58.800
That's a real good question. And you will recall that

1133
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Jeff Sessions, great Jeff Sessions, had stupidly recused himself. And

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I'm not so sure Jeff Sessions was the brightest bulb

1135
01:04:07.360 --> 01:04:10.199
in the world. But he's an honest guy, straightforward. And

1136
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then who do you have behind him? You have Rod Rosenstein,

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01:04:13.840 --> 01:04:17.000
who was complete who was now the acting Attorney General.

1138
01:04:17.039 --> 01:04:23.880
He's a Democrat, He's influenced by Democrats. That's his resting home,

1139
01:04:24.119 --> 01:04:27.119
so to speak. And he clearly was under the influence

1140
01:04:27.159 --> 01:04:31.800
of McCabe and Komy to the extent that even volunteered

1141
01:04:31.880 --> 01:04:36.000
to wear a wire and investigate Trump. So who was

1142
01:04:36.079 --> 01:04:38.599
advising Trump? Now? Then you go to I'm just trying

1143
01:04:38.599 --> 01:04:41.119
to think who his White House counsel was at the time.

1144
01:04:43.599 --> 01:04:45.559
Maybe you can refresh me. I just got to think

1145
01:04:45.559 --> 01:04:48.639
about that one but the fact is he didn't have anybody.

1146
01:04:49.199 --> 01:04:53.079
If you go back, if you go back to George

1147
01:04:53.119 --> 01:04:58.199
Bush and some of the things that happened there, George Bush,

1148
01:04:58.239 --> 01:05:05.760
the second again, Alberto Gonzalez, White House Council did not

1149
01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:09.800
understand that when Comy started a Special Council investigation there,

1150
01:05:10.400 --> 01:05:13.320
that that was a phony, that that made no sense,

1151
01:05:13.440 --> 01:05:15.719
that they did not have a crime there. Comy had

1152
01:05:15.760 --> 01:05:22.880
started one there without a crime that had been They'd

1153
01:05:22.880 --> 01:05:25.920
already determined that there was no crime. They understood who

1154
01:05:26.000 --> 01:05:28.480
did the leak that they're investigating. So my point is

1155
01:05:30.760 --> 01:05:35.719
incompetence is widespread these people. Everybody that is in these positions.

1156
01:05:36.760 --> 01:05:39.760
I'm an experienced prosecutor. I say experience. I've only did

1157
01:05:39.840 --> 01:05:42.760
it for six years and I litigated for fifty four,

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01:05:43.360 --> 01:05:47.360
but nobody at this even so, I don't consider myself

1159
01:05:47.400 --> 01:05:49.679
the most expert guy in the world on this, but

1160
01:05:49.760 --> 01:05:52.840
yet there's no one at my level that would be

1161
01:05:52.880 --> 01:05:56.039
a White House Council. And so you get these guys

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01:05:56.079 --> 01:05:59.079
that have made their way up in the political structure

1163
01:05:59.280 --> 01:06:04.480
without really being heavy duty litigators. They have other jobs.

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01:06:05.039 --> 01:06:07.079
So you have to rely on.

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01:06:07.119 --> 01:06:11.440
The exactly John we got to go to a quick break.

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We'll pick it up on the other side. More from

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John O'Connor. After this stay with us.

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Hey, welcome back Bill Martinez here with John O'Connor. He

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is the legal analyst author of Postgate, How the Washington

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Post portrayed Deep Throat. John. What you're saying is that,

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and I'm following you here is the expertise. I mean,

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you get people who've been in the bureaucracy, and they've

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been in the Beltway, you know, for such a long

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time that they understand the nuance, and somebody just coming

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into the game. You know, it's like they're playing checkers

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and everybody else's you know, I mean, they're they're you

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know the other guys. You know, they've got multi levels

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of chess operations going on because they understand the nuance,

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they know how to work around the system. And of

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course it's amazing. It's almost like going back to the

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days of Hoover. It's like they invented the system. Right,

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that's right.

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If people don't understand that j Edgar Hoover actually ran

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a very good bureau. Those people in the FBI, for

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the most part, and I'd say overwhelmingly, were very straight

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and very competent. They knew a bad case from a

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good case. And usually in the Department of Justice, usually

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at least the deputy Attorney General is an experienced criminal lawyer. Now,

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in this case, the deputy Attorney General was Rod Rosenstein,

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who was a Democrat and had a weird personality, was

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very weak man and was completely buffaloed. So who was

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there that was there to protect Trump from a terrible investigation?

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There was no one.

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I think I think Julian wasn't Juliani around at the

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time a bit, No, No, I.

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Mean he was not that he was not in the

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official capacity, so he would have no ability to read

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into the file with all this Russian stuff in it,

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So you have to rely on the thin read of

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Rod Rosenstein, who was again didn't know. In fact, it

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took Rosenstein two months before he figured out that he

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was wrong, that he needed a crime. He made up

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a crime to give you. The investigation started in May

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of twenty seventeen. It wasn't until August that he gave

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a prosecution memo that mentioned the new crime that they

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had figured out, which was they determined that maybe they

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could say that Trump obstructed justice by firing Comy, which

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of course is absurd, but that's the only thing they

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could make up. But it took him a couple of

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months to make that up. It took them a while

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to realize that they had started an investigation without a

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predicate that it was illegal. But remember this, you have

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to tell on yourself if you're Rod Rosenstein who watches

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the Watcher. They have people of integrity in these positions

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or incompetence. I think Rosestein is sort of honest. He's

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an honest guy, doesn't want to do anything wrong, but

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he's a weakling and not necessarily the sharpest knife in

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the drawer. And that's all that was protecting Trump. All

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that was protecting our country. When you think about that,

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our country is vulnerable to the fact that a weaving

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spider like Komi can take down a president. This is

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a president of the United States, the most important country on

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the planet, the most important position in that important country,

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and a weaving spider like Komi got in office and

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was trying to take down the president, and he almost succeeded.

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He came very very close, and he knew exactly what

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he was doing and what he thought was. He knew

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there was no Russian collusion. He knew that was a

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but he was trying to get Trump to lie or obstruct.

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That was the whole purpose of the investigation. And that's

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why they kept trying to get Trump to be deposed,

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because if they deposed Trump, I mean, Trump has trouble,

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you know, saying the sun shine, the sun is shining

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without saying it's the most fabulous sun that's ever shown.

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And so you could at some point he's going to

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go too far and you're going to sell he obstructed justice. Uh,

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And that's what they wanted to do. That was the game.

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And he got saved from that, by the way, Thank

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god for Don McGahn, who at the time was his

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White House counsel. He understood the game and he made

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sure he went in and cooperated enough with Muller so

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that Muller had no basis to go to the court

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and say he had insufficient information needed to depose Trump.

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So Don mcghn saved him. But it was a diving

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01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:50.960
catch in deep center field. And so this this is

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01:15:51.039 --> 01:15:54.840
so scary that right now we're doing some great things.

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We're taking out a ran, thank god, but think about

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01:15:58.319 --> 01:16:03.359
how many times we almost lost this president.

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Who did no question. Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, no.

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I just want to ask you about Comy because now

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Comy's indicted because of the shell game, you know, the

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silly thing, and it's clear and Trump is insistent that

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01:16:16.399 --> 01:16:19.920
he's a dirty cop, and you know, he's got all

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01:16:19.960 --> 01:16:23.960
this stuff around him. You know, does does anything stick

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on Comy?

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Now?

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This eighty six forty seven will not stick, you know,

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fire a juror today. Now, now I think Todd blanche hitted.

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They may have some other background information that could go

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to intent. And I don't doubt that there's I don't

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doubt that he has that. But nonetheless, when you get

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down to that specific charge, I think it's a loser.

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Uh.

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Maybe you can get to trial, maybe you can make

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Komy look bad, but it's it's not the best charge.

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And also it doesn't have to do with his term

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in office. That's where he really did the bad things,

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and even continually in so far as he aided Mueller

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and so forth, maybe you can get him past all.

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It's the strategy, though, John, to get him on something

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01:17:11.239 --> 01:17:13.960
that you know seems you know, a bit flimsy. I mean,

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you know, this shell on the shore and stuff like that.

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We get that because you know, you're right. You look

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01:17:20.239 --> 01:17:23.640
back and what he did, you know, as the FBI director,

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is so egregious, and it's like we're chasing him over

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you know, you know, littering the road, you know, versus

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you know, the bodies of devastation that were left while

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01:17:34.880 --> 01:17:35.760
he was in office.

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Well, that's right, that's absolutely right. And what can you

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do about that? You really can't do anything about it, except,

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as I say, there is this thing, there is this

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sliver of hope that this whole conspiracy which would involve

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it to be a huge case would be Hillary and her

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people who made up the rushing collusion, John Brennan and

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James Comy, who knew better they had and were trying

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to amplify it and create stuff that didn't exist. They

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01:18:07.840 --> 01:18:11.720
were phony. So you can get a lot of people

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on this, but the time is running out, and now

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it's twenty twenty five. Brennan testified falsely in maya, twenty

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twenty three. So if that's hooked into the conspiracy going

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back six or seven years to hide things and to

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hide the intelligence estimate that Obama geared up to heighten

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the Russian collusion, which was a and that was a

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phony deal Obama and.

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Really and how Obama, because he's a former president, escapes

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any kind of culpability or any kind of consequence. This

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guy's president of the United States.

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Well, he's got immunity. Remember Trump proved that he's got immunity.

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So Obama ordered a phony intelligence investigation, intelligence assessment, I

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think it is he ordered that, but so he's part

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of it. He knew it was phony, but he's got immunity.

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The other folks don't. They have a qualified immunity. By

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the way, that even if they're wrong. They had to

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do so with intent.

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But I think you can.

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Prove that that the other people knew. John Brennan and

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James Comey knew that the intelligence assessment was false, and

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they insisted that the Steele dossier, which they knew was false,

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be appended to it and then publicized. So there's a

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01:19:36.159 --> 01:19:38.520
lot to talk about there. I don't know if anyone

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01:19:38.920 --> 01:19:42.520
is still looking at that on behalf of Trump. I

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hope somebody is.

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I'm like you on that. John. We got about a

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01:19:46.439 --> 01:19:48.359
minute a half left. I did want to ask about

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your response to, you know, Trump calling for the impeachment

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of Haakim Jeffreys after saying the Supreme Court is ill?

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How could somebody, I mean, you know, the minority leader

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of the House ca all the Supreme Court illegitimate? I mean,

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is this guy out of his mind?

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I think it's an impeachable offense. He qualifies because impeachment

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is a political act, of course, and what he's doing

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here is he is demeaning the other another branch of

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government in a way that's defamatory. And he is a

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01:20:19.199 --> 01:20:23.840
person of high stature, and a person like that should

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not be saying this. I mean it's like Richard. You know,

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01:20:25.960 --> 01:20:28.720
they got Richard Nixon for saying I am not a crook,

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you know, but which is nothing wrong with that. But

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nonetheless there is now do we have the political will

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to carry through with this? No? And I don't think

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the House is going to be a majority Republican anymore.

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If they impeach him, it better be darned quick. And

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I also don't think that it's going to be hard

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to get a majority of the House to impeach him.

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Do I think it's an impeachable offense? Yes? Do I

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No?

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But I certainly like to talk about it because because

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Right, really, excuse me? Yes? Exactly, Well, John, we got

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Hey, welcome back, Good morning to you. Bill Martinez here,

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and we've got Monica Mahindra joining us to talk about

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our nation's celebration of you know, our military. It's a

1510
01:25:22.399 --> 01:25:26.720
Military Appreciation month this May and the Library Congress Veterans

1511
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History Presents and Project, I should say, the Veterans History

1512
01:25:32.359 --> 01:25:35.279
Project is marking twenty five years of preserving the first

1513
01:25:35.319 --> 01:25:37.800
hand a council US Veterans. You know, Monica, I love

1514
01:25:37.840 --> 01:25:41.119
this idea. I love that we're preserving this because you know,

1515
01:25:41.239 --> 01:25:43.560
a lot of course, you know, our World War Two

1516
01:25:43.640 --> 01:25:46.000
vets are dwindling. You know, there are a few left behind,

1517
01:25:46.319 --> 01:25:49.600
and the stories that have yet to be shared are

1518
01:25:49.760 --> 01:25:52.680
just so incredible. And I love you that you're doing

1519
01:25:52.720 --> 01:25:53.640
this is such a gift.

1520
01:25:55.000 --> 01:25:57.520
Thank you, Bill, Thanks for putting a spotlight on it

1521
01:25:57.600 --> 01:26:00.680
and putting a spotlight on veteran experience. We really appreciate that.

1522
01:26:01.359 --> 01:26:04.159
Well, being a vet, I'm a little prejudiced myself, so

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01:26:04.720 --> 01:26:08.680
you know, for my fellow brother veterans, you know, we

1524
01:26:08.680 --> 01:26:13.520
we appreciate you know that you that the Veterans History

1525
01:26:13.520 --> 01:26:17.119
Project is honoring, you know, these stories of these veterans,

1526
01:26:17.760 --> 01:26:21.159
you know, whether it's you know, World War Two, Vietnam

1527
01:26:21.199 --> 01:26:21.920
and on right.

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01:26:23.119 --> 01:26:27.079
Absolutely, and you are a veteran of Vietnam and come

1529
01:26:27.119 --> 01:26:30.399
from a family of veterans, so you understand how important

1530
01:26:30.399 --> 01:26:33.119
it is that we reach veterans together as a nation

1531
01:26:33.680 --> 01:26:36.479
that don't just fulfill that sort of idea that we

1532
01:26:36.600 --> 01:26:39.359
have in our mind of the World War two veteran,

1533
01:26:39.439 --> 01:26:42.359
you know, twenty five years ago when the project was started,

1534
01:26:42.760 --> 01:26:45.439
that's really where the focus was. But you know, we

1535
01:26:45.479 --> 01:26:49.399
want the stories of all veterans, those who served the

1536
01:26:49.520 --> 01:26:53.079
US from World War One through the more recent conflicts.

1537
01:26:53.399 --> 01:26:57.319
Yeah, so is that basically what motivated the idea of

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01:26:57.399 --> 01:26:59.159
the Veterans History Project.

1539
01:27:00.079 --> 01:27:02.680
Twenty five years ago? You might recall that there was

1540
01:27:02.720 --> 01:27:06.720
sort of a national preoccupation with our World War Two veterans,

1541
01:27:06.760 --> 01:27:10.279
totally deserved as you know, coming from that family background.

1542
01:27:10.800 --> 01:27:15.600
But even then Congress was pretient. They understood it was

1543
01:27:15.760 --> 01:27:19.159
unanimous legislation. Twenty five years ago, we talked about the

1544
01:27:19.199 --> 01:27:21.199
web in a very different way than they even talked

1545
01:27:21.199 --> 01:27:24.840
about cybercasting. But even back twenty five years ago, they

1546
01:27:24.960 --> 01:27:30.359
understood starting with World War Two, we were already behind

1547
01:27:30.479 --> 01:27:32.840
the ball a little bit. We needed to make sure

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01:27:32.880 --> 01:27:37.159
there was capacity for getting stories from Korean War veterans,

1549
01:27:37.239 --> 01:27:43.840
from Vietnam veterans, and unfortunately, September eleventh had not it

1550
01:27:43.960 --> 01:27:47.680
happened yet. So unfortunately, because it hadn't happened, there wasn't

1551
01:27:47.680 --> 01:27:51.720
this perspective about the more recent conflicts. But since that time,

1552
01:27:51.800 --> 01:27:54.560
there is this perspective and this idea that it is

1553
01:27:54.600 --> 01:27:57.800
important that we get the story of veterans, not only

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01:27:57.880 --> 01:28:02.720
who served in all of these conflicts, but from multiple perspectives.

1555
01:28:02.720 --> 01:28:05.359
So not just those who served in you know, tip

1556
01:28:05.399 --> 01:28:08.640
of the speer combat positions and the front lines and deployed,

1557
01:28:09.000 --> 01:28:12.479
but all veterans, people who serve in country, who served

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01:28:12.479 --> 01:28:16.079
in an era. We need that fullness of story to

1559
01:28:16.199 --> 01:28:17.720
understand our history together.

1560
01:28:18.359 --> 01:28:21.520
Yeah, because it's part of the historic chain. You can't

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01:28:21.520 --> 01:28:24.520
have the people out in the field unless they're supported

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01:28:25.000 --> 01:28:29.399
by everybody else that's getting them the supplies, whether it's food, bullets, beans,

1563
01:28:29.439 --> 01:28:30.680
you know that sort of thing.

1564
01:28:30.760 --> 01:28:34.920
Right, So veterans like yourself, you understand that because you're

1565
01:28:34.920 --> 01:28:37.560
a part of this mission and this purpose together. And

1566
01:28:37.600 --> 01:28:40.279
one of the gifts of the Veterans' History Project is

1567
01:28:40.319 --> 01:28:43.479
in having that conversation. If you haven't served with a

1568
01:28:43.560 --> 01:28:47.119
veteran in your life, is finding that connectivity to that

1569
01:28:47.279 --> 01:28:50.199
historical chain you're talking about. You need the logistics, you

1570
01:28:50.279 --> 01:28:53.600
need all of that, but also that history is happening

1571
01:28:53.640 --> 01:28:56.600
all the time, including today, and when you sit down

1572
01:28:56.680 --> 01:28:59.880
to capture that, you're connecting all of us to how

1573
01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:03.159
we are each connected to that history and connected to

1574
01:29:03.159 --> 01:29:04.119
each other through it.

1575
01:29:04.840 --> 01:29:07.760
You know, Monica. I last year I had the honor

1576
01:29:07.840 --> 01:29:13.560
to participate in the laying of Reese at a at

1577
01:29:13.600 --> 01:29:17.960
a cemetery. It was just so spectacular and so touching,

1578
01:29:18.479 --> 01:29:22.600
and I met a Air Force colonel and he had

1579
01:29:23.039 --> 01:29:26.640
the classic response, Because I think for veterans, you know,

1580
01:29:26.640 --> 01:29:29.680
it's nice that people appreciate and if they noticed that,

1581
01:29:29.840 --> 01:29:32.399
and maybe I might be wearing something from the Marine

1582
01:29:32.439 --> 01:29:34.720
Corps or whatever, and they'll say, I want to thank

1583
01:29:34.720 --> 01:29:36.920
you for your service, and go, that's very kind. You know,

1584
01:29:37.000 --> 01:29:39.840
I appreciate the thought. But his response, I thought was

1585
01:29:39.960 --> 01:29:42.600
really great. He said when people say that to him,

1586
01:29:42.640 --> 01:29:46.840
he says, you know, I did it for you, and

1587
01:29:46.880 --> 01:29:48.319
I love that I said, you know, I'm going to

1588
01:29:48.359 --> 01:29:51.439
steal that because yes, you know we did it. We

1589
01:29:51.600 --> 01:29:54.760
served for you and for your children and your grandchildren,

1590
01:29:55.119 --> 01:29:59.239
and it's an absolute honor. And this is the heart

1591
01:29:59.720 --> 01:30:02.439
of you know. I guess when you look at it,

1592
01:30:02.880 --> 01:30:06.119
you're look you're considering maybe only one percent of our

1593
01:30:06.159 --> 01:30:10.439
population actually serves in the military in any capacity.

1594
01:30:11.399 --> 01:30:14.640
You're right. So the population difference has gotten to this

1595
01:30:14.800 --> 01:30:17.680
point where only one percent serve. And that's a number

1596
01:30:17.680 --> 01:30:19.760
that we focus on. But I want us to focus

1597
01:30:19.800 --> 01:30:22.720
on a different number because it helps my purpose, which

1598
01:30:22.760 --> 01:30:25.239
is for all of us to engage in these conversations.

1599
01:30:25.479 --> 01:30:28.640
And that number is that sixty two percent of Americans.

1600
01:30:28.640 --> 01:30:32.319
According to a Pew Research surveys several years ago, sixty

1601
01:30:32.319 --> 01:30:34.960
two percent of those of us in this country are

1602
01:30:35.000 --> 01:30:39.800
connected in some way to a veteran. And they gave

1603
01:30:39.840 --> 01:30:46.800
that distinction of immediate family members being siblings, spouses, parents,

1604
01:30:47.319 --> 01:30:51.159
or adult children. Now you have first cousins, you have

1605
01:30:51.239 --> 01:30:54.239
aunts and uncles, you have people who are maybe part

1606
01:30:54.279 --> 01:30:57.119
of what you might call your chosen family, maybe your

1607
01:30:57.159 --> 01:31:01.600
faith community, a neighborhood association. So if that's sixty two percent,

1608
01:31:01.680 --> 01:31:05.840
that very small sliver of what is family? Now add

1609
01:31:05.880 --> 01:31:07.840
all those other people in and I think we're up

1610
01:31:07.840 --> 01:31:10.880
to eighty percent. Ninety percent, Yes, you.

1611
01:31:11.199 --> 01:31:12.479
Know of veteran.

1612
01:31:12.720 --> 01:31:16.800
So the job now is to bridge that gap through

1613
01:31:16.840 --> 01:31:21.640
the Veterans History Project. Use this opportunity for seriousness of purpose,

1614
01:31:21.920 --> 01:31:25.239
to understand each other and understand each other's perspective. And

1615
01:31:25.279 --> 01:31:27.920
you've given me a fantastic idea bill, which is I

1616
01:31:27.960 --> 01:31:30.640
love that answer, but I've got one I want veterans

1617
01:31:30.640 --> 01:31:33.960
to use. Let's look at the Veterans' History Project. I'm

1618
01:31:33.960 --> 01:31:37.079
so glad you appreciate this service. Let's learn more about it.

1619
01:31:37.239 --> 01:31:40.439
Let's participate together in the Veterans' History Project, or go

1620
01:31:40.640 --> 01:31:44.079
look at the one hundred and twenty thousand plus existing

1621
01:31:44.159 --> 01:31:46.840
story so that we do understand more together.

1622
01:31:47.359 --> 01:31:50.199
You know, in your example, as we were talking about,

1623
01:31:50.920 --> 01:31:54.760
in a combat situation, you have a supply chain, You

1624
01:31:54.800 --> 01:31:57.800
have all the linkage of services, and what you brought

1625
01:31:57.880 --> 01:32:02.479
up is just as important. Behind each soldier is the

1626
01:32:02.520 --> 01:32:07.079
family supply chain, right, the letters that go home to mom,

1627
01:32:07.239 --> 01:32:10.680
the cookies that are sent from you know, home out

1628
01:32:10.720 --> 01:32:14.319
out to a combat zone or wherever. You know, they're

1629
01:32:14.399 --> 01:32:18.279
serving our country. You know, I like that and I

1630
01:32:18.399 --> 01:32:21.319
like the idea of expanding it. And we're talking, you know,

1631
01:32:21.399 --> 01:32:25.319
the connectivity of now we're talking a huge number from

1632
01:32:25.319 --> 01:32:28.000
one to eighty percent. That is huge. That's great. I

1633
01:32:28.039 --> 01:32:28.560
love that.

1634
01:32:29.319 --> 01:32:31.680
Huge And just join us. Join us at the Library

1635
01:32:31.680 --> 01:32:35.439
of Congress, your Library of Congress Veterans History Project at

1636
01:32:35.439 --> 01:32:39.399
the website l oc for Library of Congress dot gov

1637
01:32:39.520 --> 01:32:44.079
gov for government forward slash VET the ETS for Veterans.

1638
01:32:44.279 --> 01:32:47.520
There you can dive right into the existing collections that

1639
01:32:47.560 --> 01:32:51.359
we have keep contributing more. But together you could sit

1640
01:32:51.439 --> 01:32:54.479
during this Military Appreciation Month with a veteran in your

1641
01:32:54.520 --> 01:32:58.359
family or your community and learn more about each other,

1642
01:32:58.600 --> 01:33:03.000
learn more about how we are connected through both supply chains,

1643
01:33:03.039 --> 01:33:05.000
the home front and the service front.

1644
01:33:05.079 --> 01:33:07.960
Yes, that's wonderful. How about do you have any collection

1645
01:33:08.880 --> 01:33:09.920
that you can share with us?

1646
01:33:10.960 --> 01:33:18.840
Oh, I is so hard to choose, I would say,

1647
01:33:19.520 --> 01:33:22.880
you know, we are so fortunate to have the collection

1648
01:33:23.600 --> 01:33:28.680
of Harvey Philip Pratt's one that sorry, it's the one

1649
01:33:28.680 --> 01:33:31.199
that means a lot to me personally because I was

1650
01:33:31.279 --> 01:33:34.399
able to meet him and work with him. Pr Att,

1651
01:33:34.600 --> 01:33:37.479
you can find him on the website here directly from him.

1652
01:33:38.000 --> 01:33:41.279
He was passed away just recently. He was Cheyenne and

1653
01:33:41.319 --> 01:33:45.199
a rappa Ho and he served in Vietnam. He had

1654
01:33:45.600 --> 01:33:50.199
a challenging service, as many of our Vietnam military members did,

1655
01:33:50.239 --> 01:33:54.279
whether in country or not. And he when he returned

1656
01:33:54.279 --> 01:33:58.720
from Vietnam, came back created a life for himself with

1657
01:33:59.000 --> 01:34:03.479
art expressing himself but also becoming a forensic artist, so

1658
01:34:03.680 --> 01:34:06.880
serving in that way again his community and really the nation.

1659
01:34:07.399 --> 01:34:11.399
He continued that level of service. Meanwhile his expressive art

1660
01:34:11.560 --> 01:34:17.760
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1661
01:34:17.760 --> 01:34:20.000
blind jury, So they didn't know that he was Cheyenne

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and a Rappaho, they didn't know he was a Vietnam veteran.

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Was his design was chosen for the National Native Veterans

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Memorial in DC at the Smithsonian. It's just an extraordinary design.

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And getting to hear him and see him and hear

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him talk about it, it really speaks to the whole

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purpose of the project, which is we don't just want

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you know, the generals, or that the people you might

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find a line or two about in a history textbook.

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We want the every day that every veterans story, and

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you never know what kind of impact that person is

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going to have. And he's a great example of that.

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Well, just one of so many veterans stories that are

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all part of the Veterans' History Project, marking its twenty

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fifth year of gathering stories. Where can people go for

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more information?

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Monica, Please, it's your Library of Congress. Come to the

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Library of Congress Veterans History Project website. That's LOOC for

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Library of Congress dot gov gov for government forward slash

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that's vets for Veterans.

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Well, Monica, thank you so much for being with us.

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Monica Mahindra, the director of the Veterans History Project here

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on Bill Martinez Live. Thank you, take care.

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Thanks Bill, I really appreciate it.

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Hey, we're back with you. Bill Martinez here. Great to

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have you with us, sharing a part of your day.

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For more information on the show, you can check it

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out Bill Martinez Live dot com. Eric Shiner is back

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with us. It's been a minute or two. Eric, we've

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missed you here. You can't be missing an action so often.

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You gotta and visit us more often.

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All right, Ah, it's great to be back with you.

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Bill appreciate it.

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Well. He's the senior director of MRC Video. And we're

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going to talk about, you know, the craziest quotes here

1776
01:40:11.319 --> 01:40:14.760
recently that keep coming out, you know, from you know,

1777
01:40:14.800 --> 01:40:17.079
the lunatic left. I guess that's all you can tell.

1778
01:40:17.119 --> 01:40:20.600
But I mean, when I was in political science classes

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in college, you know, we talked about the lunatic left.

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01:40:24.279 --> 01:40:25.800
But even then it was just kind of like some

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01:40:25.960 --> 01:40:28.560
nebulous type of group of people, I mean, the ones

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01:40:28.600 --> 01:40:31.359
that were really weird and out there. But now it

1783
01:40:31.439 --> 01:40:33.920
seems like they've built up such a constituency.

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01:40:34.039 --> 01:40:36.319
Eric, Yeah, pretty much. The ones that are weird and

1785
01:40:36.359 --> 01:40:38.520
out there are all of them. So we here at

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01:40:38.560 --> 01:40:40.640
the Media Research Center, we decided to put up what

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01:40:41.119 --> 01:40:42.640
three of what we think are some of the worst

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01:40:42.680 --> 01:40:45.560
media quotes of the week, and then people can log online,

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01:40:45.720 --> 01:40:48.359
especially on x they can find the Media Research Center

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01:40:48.399 --> 01:40:50.760
and they can vote for which one they think is

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01:40:50.800 --> 01:40:53.199
the absolute worst, and then we announce it on Monday

1792
01:40:53.239 --> 01:40:57.199
that this indeed one from people's voting the worst.

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01:40:56.880 --> 01:40:57.319
Of the week.

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01:40:57.960 --> 01:41:01.319
Well, Chuck Todd, he's.

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01:41:01.199 --> 01:41:01.920
In there this week.

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01:41:01.960 --> 01:41:06.359
Absolutely, Yeah, he's he's self victimized himself and now he's

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01:41:06.439 --> 01:41:09.840
claiming PTSD and god only knows what he'll, you know,

1798
01:41:09.920 --> 01:41:12.439
be like so many of the Democrats, instill some valor

1799
01:41:12.520 --> 01:41:15.039
because somehow he happened to be in the perimeter and

1800
01:41:15.119 --> 01:41:17.520
says I'm not going to anymore Trump events, you know,

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01:41:17.560 --> 01:41:19.640
because chaos follows him and I don't want to be

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01:41:19.640 --> 01:41:20.760
associated with that. Right.

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01:41:21.279 --> 01:41:23.479
Yeah, he's one of the novities this week, and I'm

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01:41:23.520 --> 01:41:26.079
sure Trump is really going to be upset that Chuck

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01:41:26.119 --> 01:41:28.560
Todd doesn't want to go cover his events anymore.

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01:41:28.640 --> 01:41:29.560
Isn't really interesting?

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01:41:29.600 --> 01:41:32.680
Is someone that calls himself a journalist, calls themselves a

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01:41:32.720 --> 01:41:35.479
journalist in Washington, d C. Declares they're not going to

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01:41:35.479 --> 01:41:37.079
cover presidential events anymore.

1810
01:41:37.680 --> 01:41:41.119
Well, you're now think about this. You're a journalist in Washington,

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01:41:41.199 --> 01:41:43.880
d C. Up until recently was probably one of the

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01:41:43.880 --> 01:41:48.359
most dangerous places you could be in, right, yes, I mean,

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01:41:48.479 --> 01:41:51.880
crime rate, everything great rough And of course you know,

1814
01:41:51.960 --> 01:41:55.039
we know that there's some stellar journalists who you know,

1815
01:41:55.079 --> 01:41:58.840
take it upon themselves to report in combat situations, actually

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01:41:58.920 --> 01:42:02.199
go into war zones. So what kind of journalists is

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01:42:02.399 --> 01:42:03.079
Chuck Todd.

1818
01:42:03.439 --> 01:42:05.880
Well, he's not a journalist. He's a propagandaist. Let's face it.

1819
01:42:05.880 --> 01:42:08.720
He promotes whatever the left wants to hear. That that's

1820
01:42:09.159 --> 01:42:11.079
that's his job. So you know, if it gives him

1821
01:42:11.079 --> 01:42:13.720
an excuse to say, well, I'm just not covering you know,

1822
01:42:13.760 --> 01:42:17.560
it's kind of like MSNBC and later now ms now

1823
01:42:18.960 --> 01:42:22.600
whatever they're calling themselves this week as they get bought

1824
01:42:22.600 --> 01:42:25.800
out yet again. I guess you know they always well

1825
01:42:25.800 --> 01:42:28.279
We're not going to bring you the president's speech live.

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01:42:28.319 --> 01:42:30.640
We'll tell you if anything newsworthy happens, because we just

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01:42:30.920 --> 01:42:33.560
we just don't want to air what he has to say.

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01:42:34.039 --> 01:42:36.199
He's the president of the United States.

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01:42:36.560 --> 01:42:40.680
Right, You're covering politics and you don't care what the

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01:42:40.720 --> 01:42:42.479
President of the United States has to say.

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01:42:42.520 --> 01:42:44.680
That's amazing, But that's what they do.

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01:42:45.000 --> 01:42:48.239
It's a dereliction of duty, clearly, you know, for them

1833
01:42:48.239 --> 01:42:51.399
to but but this is the ideology of the left

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01:42:51.760 --> 01:42:54.359
that they want to control the narrative to make sure

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01:42:54.399 --> 01:42:57.039
their peeps only get what they want them to hear.

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01:42:57.159 --> 01:43:00.359
Right, absolutely, and Bill, So here's the question for you.

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01:43:00.359 --> 01:43:03.880
You know about Chuck Todd. We have two others. I

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01:43:03.920 --> 01:43:07.119
don't know, what do you think of Obviously Jimmy jim

1839
01:43:07.760 --> 01:43:10.880
Jimmy Kimmel's joke is there. We all know that was

1840
01:43:10.920 --> 01:43:13.640
in poor taste. Everyone except Jimmy Kimmel seems to know that.

1841
01:43:15.000 --> 01:43:16.960
And is that the worst? Or is it?

1842
01:43:17.079 --> 01:43:21.000
Joy read Joy Reid on her online podcast decides that

1843
01:43:21.039 --> 01:43:24.680
the assassination attempts on Trump are staged. She doesn't believe

1844
01:43:24.680 --> 01:43:26.520
that he was shot in the air. She sees no

1845
01:43:26.600 --> 01:43:29.199
medical evidence and this is just all too convenient that

1846
01:43:29.239 --> 01:43:35.920
there's reporters there. Imagine reporters at the White House correspondence dinner. Strange,

1847
01:43:36.159 --> 01:43:39.600
you know, it's all too convenient that the journalists are there.

1848
01:43:39.640 --> 01:43:41.520
So she just thinks it's it's staged.

1849
01:43:41.840 --> 01:43:42.199
I mean, so.

1850
01:43:43.840 --> 01:43:46.520
The blood flowing from yeah, so the blood flowing from

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01:43:46.520 --> 01:43:48.760
his ear was theatrical blood.

1852
01:43:48.920 --> 01:43:49.279
I guess.

1853
01:43:49.359 --> 01:43:53.000
So, you know, she like makes note that the photographers

1854
01:43:53.039 --> 01:43:55.199
were rounded up after the shooting. It's like, yeah, the

1855
01:43:55.239 --> 01:43:57.479
FBI rounded up a lot of people after the shooting.

1856
01:43:57.479 --> 01:43:59.000
They didn't know how bad Trump was shot, and they

1857
01:43:59.000 --> 01:44:02.119
obviously didn't went pos that were gratuitous coming out if

1858
01:44:02.319 --> 01:44:03.880
there was a gratuitous photo to be.

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01:44:03.840 --> 01:44:06.199
Had, you know, fortunately there wasn't.

1860
01:44:06.800 --> 01:44:09.520
But yes, of course, you know, the security moved in

1861
01:44:09.560 --> 01:44:12.880
and rounded up the press after the president.

1862
01:44:12.520 --> 01:44:15.399
Was shot in the ear. But you know, but that

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01:44:15.520 --> 01:44:16.239
makes it stage.

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01:44:16.279 --> 01:44:18.640
I mean, this is the level and the mentality that

1865
01:44:18.680 --> 01:44:22.000
you're seeing of people in the leftist media. They will

1866
01:44:22.039 --> 01:44:25.319
actually go on camera and say, yeah, I think it's staged.

1867
01:44:26.039 --> 01:44:29.880
I mean, they're so diluted in conspiracy theories. They go

1868
01:44:29.960 --> 01:44:32.399
to blue sky I guess we call bluin' on here,

1869
01:44:33.760 --> 01:44:36.439
and they will come up with the strangest conspiracy theories

1870
01:44:36.479 --> 01:44:39.199
and just argue that they're true. So that's that's the

1871
01:44:39.239 --> 01:44:40.840
three that we have up for this week. We have

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01:44:40.920 --> 01:44:44.239
Joy Reid, we have Chuck Todd as we mentioned, and

1873
01:44:44.319 --> 01:44:46.560
of course we have Jimmy Kimmel and his joke. And

1874
01:44:46.600 --> 01:44:49.039
it's tough to decide which is worse. But you know,

1875
01:44:49.039 --> 01:44:51.079
it's even harder for us, I guess, to decide which

1876
01:44:51.119 --> 01:44:51.960
three to choose.

1877
01:44:52.039 --> 01:44:55.279
There's so many insane leftists in.

1878
01:44:55.239 --> 01:44:58.840
The media exactly. Well, the deal is is considering we're

1879
01:44:58.840 --> 01:45:00.680
in the information age, which we we have been now

1880
01:45:00.720 --> 01:45:05.680
for the last decade, and you know, podcasting and you know,

1881
01:45:05.880 --> 01:45:08.520
getting clicks and all that is most important, and the

1882
01:45:08.560 --> 01:45:11.720
only way you can do that is with an outrageous headline,

1883
01:45:11.760 --> 01:45:15.640
and especially if you're as irre irrelevant as Joy Reid

1884
01:45:15.680 --> 01:45:19.000
has become, you know, I mean it seems to me

1885
01:45:19.119 --> 01:45:21.960
like this is desperation. I mean, here she was, at

1886
01:45:22.039 --> 01:45:27.159
one point in her career, I believe, overly valued and

1887
01:45:27.279 --> 01:45:30.520
highly paid, and she ends up shooting herself in the

1888
01:45:30.560 --> 01:45:35.840
foot and she really created her own delusionment and now

1889
01:45:35.960 --> 01:45:38.880
the only way that she can, you know, have anybody

1890
01:45:39.279 --> 01:45:41.680
give her any kind of attention is she comes up

1891
01:45:41.720 --> 01:45:44.920
with these weird conspiratorial stories. I mean, the next thing

1892
01:45:45.000 --> 01:45:47.119
I expect to see her is wearing you know, a

1893
01:45:47.159 --> 01:45:48.000
tinfoil hat.

1894
01:45:48.199 --> 01:45:51.960
Eric too. And isn't that the story you mentioned?

1895
01:45:52.560 --> 01:45:56.920
All these leftist anchors and personalities that just promoted strange

1896
01:45:56.960 --> 01:45:59.239
leftist ideas, well, they've now been let go and they

1897
01:45:59.279 --> 01:46:01.880
have podcasts. And you have Jim Acosta, you have Don Lemon,

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01:46:01.960 --> 01:46:05.000
you have Joey Reid. As you mentioned, Chuck Todd, he's

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doing a podcast.

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Now.

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This seems to be the arc for these people.

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And as you said, once they get into the podcast realm,

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well then you know, Don Lemon has to storm a

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church in order to get attention. Joey Reid will say

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even none of your things than she did on air

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when she was on MSNBC, you know, to get attention.

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It's this arc that they're doing right now. It's absolutely strange.

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Well, you know the good news about all this is

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the free market is ferrying it out, maybe not as

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fast as we'd like, because you know, the left here's

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this and some of the young people don't know better.

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This is why we keep preaching in this show that

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you must you must own your own knowledge, do your

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own research. So just take our work from it. Just

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you know, take the reporting we do. You know, for us,

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we're committed, you know, to the truth, no matter where

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it leaves, say the truth, to the whole truth. Nothing

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but and that is that's critical, you know. And then

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you know, take the information, do your own studying. Be

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an informed, engaged voter so that we're not electing guys

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like mom Donnie to run the number one city in

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the in the planet.

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It's insane, It's absolutely insane.

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You mentioned mom Donny, and then you have the mayor

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of Seattle.

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I think it is who parents paid.

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She lives. I'm the mayor.

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I'm the mayor.

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I live with my mom and dad. Still she's never

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you know, she's never owned a home.

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I ever had to pay for anything.

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I don't know. Has she ever had a job. Somebody

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said she hadn't even had a job.

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Yeah, mom and dad pay for everything. She lives at

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home and she's not forced to make ends meet. But

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she's the perfect person you want helping sign off on

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that budget in Seattle.

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The left loves these kind of people.

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Well, it's kind of like what John Kennedy said, It

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reminds me of what Kennedy said a while ago. This

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01:47:54.760 --> 01:47:57.760
was about Joe Biden. He said, even in the animal world,

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they don't pick the weakest animal. I love that statement,

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but anyway, go ahead.

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I'm sorry, Oh no, I'm just saying, you know, this

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is the kind of insanity. The left keeps going more left,

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and then the leftist news channels have to go more

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left to promote them, because that's that's clearly their job,

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and that's clearly the job of the news apps that

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people have on their phone. You look and you won't

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see a conservative headlining because they all choose these CNNs

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and MSN.

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Now's and Al Jazeera.

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I mean, I think in the month of March, Al

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Jazeera like went up as far as its digital footprint

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people visiting its website by over one hundred and forty

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nine percent, and the main reason was Google. The Google

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News app was using Al Jazeera headlines. I mean, so

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you know, not only is the US fighting in a

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war and Iran, but the administration's fighting a war against

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the press to get to get any kind of realistic coverage,

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some positive coverage. A militarily, it's been a success, but

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you rarely hear.

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That, right. I mean, and you saw the hearings the

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other day, right with Pete Heseth, our secretary of War.

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I mean, these senators and congress people just made fools

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of themselves. I mean, who did they think they were

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going up against? I mean, Pete Hegseth. I'll tell you,

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you know, I watched the latter part of his career

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obviously on Fox and and then when Trump picked him

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to be, you know, the Secretary of Defense. Initially I

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thought it's interesting, and you know, and you read his

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background and stuff, and then of course his book. His

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book really lays out his ethos and his you know,

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the very soul of who he is. And boy, I'll

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tell you it was. It's just been a perfect match

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in my humble opinion, because you know, when you have

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warriors out on the field of battle, you got to

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take the handcuffs off. You've got to let him do

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what warriors do. Yes, they kill people, they destroy stuff,

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but it's all for one purpose in mind, and that

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is to get the diplomats back in the bargaining table

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so that we can negotiate peace.

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Right absolutely.

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I mean, Bill, you're telling me that the military is

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not about having you know, talking about your feelings and

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having DEI and and caring about you know, having tampons

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in the men's room. I mean, that's a shock after.

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The lost.

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I understand. I mean, after four years of indoctrination. I

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can understand why you may have been affected. In terms

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of period.

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It's a shock to some of these congress people.

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Wait, the military is there to kill people and defend

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the country. That might take physical force. We might want

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you know, alpha males and alf females to to you know,

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be these people in the military.

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Oh my goodness. And of course you do. Recruitment's gone up.

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On your hag seth, right, because he does realize that,

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and he does promote that, and he got rid of

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the silliness.

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Right exactly. You mean to tell me that an admiral

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male figure uh with address and some breast enlargement assimilations

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was there?

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The one with a dog mask too?

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Oh gosh, it dress up like a dog.

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There was one or two that were dog masks too.

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You know.

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I was talking the other day about this, Eric I said,

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compare just a picture of Joe Biden's cabinet and Trump's cabinet.

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Oh yeah, I mean you're thinking. Now, come on, that's

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a money python movie. There's no way that's real.

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You know, there's so many things that happened, you know,

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under the Biden administration that are just you know, so

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so silly. I mean, I still think, you know, uh,

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that Kontanji Brown Jackson probably should you know, remove herself

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from anything involving you know, gender, gender, women's sports.

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She has she doesn't know what it.

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Is title nine. She should remove herself because she doesn't

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know what a woman is. How can she adjudicate?

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Yeah, exactly, Well we got to leave it there, Eric, sheinder,

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Thank you so much. Always good to be talking to you,

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Senior director at MRC Video. Have a great day, Eric,

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take care.

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Thanks for having me.

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Bill, you got it.

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