May 4, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 05 04 26

The Bill Martinez Show 05 04 26
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The Bill Martinez Show 05 04 26
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, Okay, let's do an Ill Martinez Live a program

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about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and

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our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Hey, good morning America. Six minutes after the top of

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the hour. Right now Bill Martinez here with the one

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and only Grover Norquis, the President of Americans Tax for

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former America's pre eminent center right expert on taxes. Mister Grober,

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how are we doing.

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I'm doing well. Good to be with you, Bill.

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Always good to have this time to check on things,

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especially it just seems like more and more all things

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California these days. As you ride California, voters may soon

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decide whether to impose a one time five percent wealth

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tax on billionaires. Should the rest of us be worried?

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Well, if you live in one of the states, the

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eight states with no income tax, you will likely get

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more billionaires, high tech people, people who create wealth moving

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to your state bringing jobs with them if you live

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in California. Just by saying they're thinking about it. This

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legislation has not passed. It will be on the ballots.

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Got enough signatures now, they say, and it sounds right

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that it will be.

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On the November ballot.

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The governor had said he opposes it, Will he really

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spend money against it? Will the left politicians go, we

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shouldn't show our hand this soon. We should shut up

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and pretend we aren't for this stuff. My guess is

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that it may well pass, although there's going to be

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a competing measure on the ballot which may defeat it.

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But the fact that it was discussed, the fact that

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the unions in California said, we want more of your

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money so that we can get paid more than everybody

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else in the state. Unionized government workers should be paid

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more than everyone else. They shouldn't have to work as

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many hours. They should retire sooner. They should retire with

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incredible pensions. That's what government is for. That's what this

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is about. This is about taking money from people who

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created wealth and created companies and hired many people to

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hand it over for high pensions that none of us

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get the real world. For government workers, it is taxing

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people who create jobs to pay for people who live

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off the government and taxpayers.

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You know, Grover, a lot of people don't understand that

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these pensions they get, it's guaranteed, I mean every year.

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I mean, if they don't like, if their investments don't

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meet you know, meet the standard, then it's up to

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the taxpayer to pay the difference. Right.

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Yes, in the real world, people have defined contribution pensions.

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You put in ten percent of your salary, your company

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puts in ten percent, and that builds up over time,

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and then you retire on that. But you're never in

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a position where you're owed money from anybody else, or

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where you owe money. You know exactly the value of

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your retirement. If you work for the government. Often workers

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put nothing in themselves and the government puts in the money,

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and it's not enough to pay the benefits that they've

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promised workers. And when they promise them, they can't change that.

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That's a contract. Heck, in Illinois they put it into

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the constitution. They realized they were so out of whack

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they have no way to raise that money. They put

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in the constitution that they will have to pay their

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retirees who retire younger than you and me or anybody else,

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and get more pay than you and me and anybody else,

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And they just keep getting more and more and more.

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And in New York they just had a debate about

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increasing the already very lucative contracts and pensions that New

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Yorkers had negotiated in the past.

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It no, we want more, Yeah, well why not. I

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mean they've been able to get away with it. But

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you know, meanwhile, you think that, particularly in these blue

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states where they're out of money anyway, but they keep

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finding ways to spend more money that they don't have,

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and it's like, when does somebody just say, uncle, you know,

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we can't do this anymore.

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Well, the Democrats can't do that because their coalition is

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built about groups and structures that all demand access to

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other people's money. You've got the trial lawyers that want

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laws that allow them to sue people that, you know,

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if they spill their coffee. They want to be able

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to sell sue McDonald's for a million dollars so that

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McDonald's workers get paid less, so that the trial lawyers

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can't a hunk of the million dollars. You've got the

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labor union bosses that want more union dues and more

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government money and more contracts. And the big city political

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machines people on welfare, people who make one hundred and

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fifty thousand dollars managing other people on welfare. They're not

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on welfare, but they might as well be And they're

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making a lot more money for people on welfare, and

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they make sure none of those guys get jobs and

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become republic So they want more and more people locked

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into welfare dependency every single day. So the entire left's

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coalition depends on somebody going out and stealing money from

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taxpayers and giving it to them. There is no end.

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They will fight amongst each other. You know some people

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in California who are left go, oh, you shouldn't show

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your hand this soon. You shouldn't make it too obvious

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that your pensions are bigger than everyone else's. You'll get

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us all in trouble. All they're telling you is be quiet,

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we'll get to you. We're not telling them though.

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Yeah, you just get elected like Spamburger, and then you

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can let them see the cards, right boy.

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Virginia, on the other side of the continent, there was

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a woman who claimed to be moderate. She just signed

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a slew of tax and spending, many many new taxes,

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massive new regulations, raising the cost of everybody's home heating, oil,

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everybody's air conditioning. It is getting more and more expensive.

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Women's only been in office for a month or something,

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and she's out destroying the affordability of Vermont well and

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and I mean, you know, you talk about the way

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of some of these governments are attacking the wealthy, and

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they're and they're doing so blindly, particularly in New York,

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because here you've got these billionaires that are bringing jobs

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that contribute so much to the you know, day to

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day costs of New York, and now you want to

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tax them again.

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And they're going to go Astelabisco. Baby, you know, I'm

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going to Miami.

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And the governor of New York said the other day

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before the election said, if you want to leave, we

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don't care.

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Go ahead and leave.

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If you don't like our high taxes, leave And just

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a couple of weeks ago, she said, if you're visiting

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down in Florida, would you talk to those guys and

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ask them if they'll come back, literally leaving with them

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to talk people into coming back. The French guy who

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to write the let's tax billionaires of Chris. Remember the

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amendment to allow a tax on billionaires wealth does not

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anywhere in there say only billionaires. This will allow the legislature,

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with a simple majority vote, to decide not billionaires, millionaires,

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not millionaires. People who make one hundred thousand dollars a year.

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They can take that to any They can be every

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It could be everybody three weeks from now, as soon

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as as soon as the bill passes. This is not

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a the advertisers tax on billionaires, so that they think

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you're stupid and you haven't read it and you don't

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know that with a tweak, not a constitutional amendment, not

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a vote to the people. Again, the politicians will take

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If you vote yes on that amendment, you give them,

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the politicians the right to have a property tax on everyone.

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The state could do a property tax on your house, yeah,

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to your local government.

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Yeah.

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And they're talking of got an exit tacks now too.

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Well, if you're going to govern like the East Germans,

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you better be willing to shoot people on the way

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out or they will leave.

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Right right and so now, And of course California's been

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trying to do this because I know when I left California,

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they tried to chase after me, and my accountant just laughed, said,

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don't worry about it. But another person that I knew

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was a one time partner. She ended up paying like

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three thousand dollars just to get them off the back.

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You know, they just kept pestering her.

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In Ohio, which is now being governed better, but a

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number of years ago it was pretty bad.

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People.

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A lot of people are leaving Ohio. Lawyers told people

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who were moving, if you moved to Florida, if you

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moved to Tennessee, you must stop giving money to your

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local church, stop giving money to your local charities, the

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local boy scouts, anything that ties you, because I would say, oh,

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you haven't really left, right Your same doctor or your

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same dentist can't come back and use the doctor or

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dent because that means you haven't really moved out to Florida.

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So not only are they losing talent somebody who owns

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a house, pays property taxes, is an upstanding citizen, and

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creates jobs. They are losing all of the charity charity

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exactly in their state. Yeah, well, I'll tell you, well,

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we got to go to quick break. We've got more

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Hey, welcome back Bill Martinez here with President Americans for

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Tax Reporting, America's pre eminent center right expert on taxes,

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talking about her favorite topic. You know, it is amazing

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to me, and I know it's amazing to most Americans here,

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because you know, you just keep asking these blue state

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governors and that when when is enough enough? I mean,

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what is it going to take? Grower?

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Well, we just had the news that the governor of

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Maine has announced she's not running for Senate anymore. She

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was the moderate who was maybe going to be able

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to win that Senate seat for the Democrats. And they

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had the crazy person who's that calls himself a communist

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and wear's Nazi tattoos and things like that. That's the

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guy who's been winning. So what did the woman who

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wanted to be thought of as a moderate too, Well,

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in order to chase after the voters who were going

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for the guy with a that's the socialist thing on

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their tattoo and a history of supporting Communis and saying

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nice things about socialism, in order to look more like

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that to win in the Democrat primary, she supported a

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higher tax rate on higher income people, exactly the kind

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of taxes that drive people out of California and New

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York and now Massachusetts and now Maine. But that wasn't

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enough to keep her left wing people happy. They've turned

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on her. She's not running again, but Maine is going

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to pay with higher taxes and people leaving Maine because

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she wanted to be the most left wing person she could.

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This is part of her campaign. This was an illegal

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campaign contribution to her to get the legislature to say,

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let's go steal money from these you know, several thousand

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people that vacation stay in Maine in their retirement who

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will now go someplace else.

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Grover, This is this is so concerning because you know,

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you and I talked about this last week. I mean,

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appreciates conservative policies and votes for conservative policies. And then

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you've got the other half just bathing in fraud, waste

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abuse and more taxes, and you know, and what's going

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to be galling is because you know, the Blue states

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are going to be coming with their hat in hand,

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you know, begging the government to give them more money

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because they've run out of money.

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need to borrow trillions of dollars and give it to

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to bail out California, New York, Illinois, and now Illinois

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not only wants to have a gasoline tax, they would

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have a mileage tax on top of that. That's the

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new thing. Just just the last couple of days they

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announced this is we're going to have a study that

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a bunch of Democrats are going to read and they

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go the study says we should do this, and you'll

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have you'll be you'll have to pay for it, how

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many miles you drive, you have to come in and

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they'll look at it. This is theoretically to force electric cars.

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They subsidized electric cars, ye, right, in order to get

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people to buy them. Then they say, oh, but we

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don't get a gas tax from you, so we should

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have a mileage tax. Why are you subsidizing something and

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then taxing it. It's become a joke what the left

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is doing. Reagan's comment, right, if the left says, if

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it moves taxes, if it keeps moving regulated when it

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stops moving, subsidize it.

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Right, exactly, Well, And the Democrats don't even wait for

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it to stop moving. They're just happy to, you know,

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to subsidize things. Especially like you said, with eb cars

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and all that and all those things. How much did

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it contribute to the inflation that we're dealing with today.

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Grover Well, taxes lead to higher taxes make everything less affordable.

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When you get a tax cut at the state level,

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a local level, federal level, you walk into the grocery store,

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because you're paying lower taxes. Your take home pay is increased.

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what you get to take home is bigger with a

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tax cut, tax cuts are paying increases. They make life

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more affordable. The other side of that is increasing taxes

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reduces your pay, reduces your take pay. You may say

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you made it this much money, but after taxes you

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got a pay cut. Tax increases are pay cuts. And

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so Democratic governors around the country are campaigning on I'm

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going to cut your pay. Now they generally say I'm

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going to cut somebody else's pay.

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But well, of course that's the way the whole income

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tax system came into play. Right, Oh, we're going to

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go after those nasty people that make so much money,

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that top one percent and that lasted for about a year, right.

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Yeah, it's only about a one percent. We're paying the

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income tax. You had to make more than eleven million

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dollars to be in the top bracket. The top bracket

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was seven percent. Today the lowest bracket is twice what

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the highest bracket used to be.

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You know, the Democrats, it's in their DNA. They just

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they they're really not concerned about the people. And I'm

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and I'm wondering, you know, Grover, I was thinking the

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other night, when do the people finally say, okay, pay

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up all this money that you've borrowed from our social

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security fund that they're telling us is going to go

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bankrupt in thirty three or thirty four. Why don't we

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the people get together and say, hey, we're calling the note.

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You need to pay it, because if we can get

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some of that money diverted into into social security, it'll

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be less money for them to waste and steal.

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Maybe well, our friends on the left have a coalition

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of voters that all depend on tax dollars being taken

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from working people and given to them, whether it's people

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on welfare. Government employees have bigger pensions than anybody else

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in the world, that get higher pay for less hours work,

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that work fewer days in a month, fewer years in

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their lifetime. They demand more and more money from taxpayers,

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so there is no end to their demand. Welfare people

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give us more. Welfare people get. Government contracts are corrupted

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and cost much more than they should. They want more

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and more cash, so there is no ability The Democratic

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Party cannot fix the problem that they don't see as

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a problem. They see it as the way they live.

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Yes, right, it is a way of life, there's no doubt,

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because that's how they get elected. But you know, just

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as they have built up a constituency. And I know

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you've done this with you know people, as you continue

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to educate people about tax reform and that. But we

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really need to augment that constituency in such a way.

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I mean because you figure, look at if eighty thousand people,

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eighty thousand somalies can control Michigan. I got to think that,

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you know, three five million fair minded Americans as a

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voting block could create a lot of havoc on a

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on a good side, what do you.

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Think, Well, I think we've been winning elections recently. We

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need to make sure everybody gets to the polls. Please vote.

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Everyone who wants to raise taxes knows they need to

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vote in order to get more of your money and

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make your life less affordable. You need to vote. It

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vote for someone who won't raise your taxes, who will

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allow you to live in an affordable house, in an

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affordable neighborhood with it income tax that after the income

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the tax has been taken out, allows you to go

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informed voter, a powerful informed voter. Because here it is,

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we pass the Big Beautiful Bill, you talk about affordability,

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just like you said with your formula, you cut taxes,

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you make more money. You know, the Democrats want to

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talk about affordability. Look at what the Republicans gave you

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with the Big Beautiful Bill. I mean, right now, returns

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are probably at an all time high right now, income

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tax returns. You've got more money in your pocket. Thank

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you very much, Donald Trump and the Republicans. But the

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mainstream media and these other naysayers want you to believe differently.

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Yeah, you just keep in mind the Democrats have said

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they wanted to not pass the Big Beautiful Bill. Had

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they won, our taxes everybody in the country would be

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four trillion dollars higher over the next decade, four hundred

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billion a year. That's a lot of money out of

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everybody's pocket. That's what the Democrats voted for. That's what

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they ran on, and should they win the House, that

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That's part of the reason why they shut down the

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government is they want to claw back that money from

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the big beautiful bill, right yep. If the truth be known,

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that's the bottom line. Well, we got to leave it there.

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You can steal on that for a while, but make

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sure you do something about it with your vote this time. Okay.

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Grover Norquist, the president of Americans for Tax Reformed the

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Bill, thank you atr dotorg.

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dot com. Nutrition for Patriots, Hey, good morning America.

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Good to have you with us.

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Bill Martinez here for more information on the show You Know,

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Bill Martinez Live dot com. Jared Nott's going to join

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us in just a moment.

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Uh.

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He is a decorated combat infantry officer in Vietnam and

516
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the first Eric Calvalry Division, author of Tiny Blunders, Big

517
00:28:20.039 --> 00:28:23.799
Disasters thirty nine Tiny Mistakes That Change the World Forever

518
00:28:24.200 --> 00:28:26.279
and Jared, it just seems that the tiny mistakes just

519
00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:27.839
keep on coming. Huh.

520
00:28:27.720 --> 00:28:30.799
We have tiny mistakes, we also have some big big mistakes.

521
00:28:31.000 --> 00:28:35.480
Yeah right, yeah, well yeah, yes, yeah exactly when it's

522
00:28:35.480 --> 00:28:37.960
almost like the tiny when when you get enough tiny

523
00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:40.839
ones together and they link they have linkage, then they

524
00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:42.119
become big disasters.

525
00:28:42.200 --> 00:28:46.240
Right, I'm effect absolutely yes, yeah, that's called the butterfly effect.

526
00:28:46.319 --> 00:28:49.400
Yes, right, exactly, well done and well written. H I

527
00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:51.839
want to talk to you specifically about what's going on,

528
00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:57.680
uh with this Iranian clash over Hormuz. The closure you know,

529
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you know I closed at first, No, I close that,

530
00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:02.640
you know, back and forth. But you know, the fact

531
00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:05.200
of the matter is is when you've got this the

532
00:29:05.240 --> 00:29:10.000
American armada there at the straight, it doesn't matter what

533
00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:13.480
Iran does. I mean, they're just not getting any money.

534
00:29:13.920 --> 00:29:16.559
There's no you know, there's no ships going in and

535
00:29:16.599 --> 00:29:19.960
going out. And the way this thing is being orchestrated.

536
00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:21.559
Trump says, hey, I don't even care if you're in

537
00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:23.799
the straight of horror moves. If you're a threat and

538
00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:25.920
you're carrying Iranian oil. We're going to come after you.

539
00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:27.440
I don't care where you're at, right.

540
00:29:27.559 --> 00:29:29.839
I blow you up. That's right. Yeah, he's now. It

541
00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:33.200
looks like in the chess game. It's because the brinkmanship

542
00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:35.359
that they're going to the edge and making threats that

543
00:29:35.440 --> 00:29:37.319
are going to the edge, and we're falling through and

544
00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:40.720
our promises. But it looks as though he's got a

545
00:29:40.759 --> 00:29:45.000
real stranglehold on and wrung. They cannot continue like this

546
00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:47.599
for two weeks or three weeks, and they're going to

547
00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:49.920
have to shut down all of the oil wells in

548
00:29:49.960 --> 00:29:51.920
the next ten days to two weeks because they have

549
00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:53.839
to stop pumping oil because they have no place to

550
00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:56.599
store the oil. And it's a big, big setback having

551
00:29:56.640 --> 00:30:00.440
shut down oil well and then all the proble expensive

552
00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:02.559
getting it started again. That's number one. Number two.

553
00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:03.759
Yeah, it's not, it's not.

554
00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:05.559
It's not a matter of flipping the switch, isn't.

555
00:30:05.799 --> 00:30:08.759
No, it's very complicated and very expensive and difficult. Even

556
00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:12.160
worse than that, they've not been able to pay their

557
00:30:12.200 --> 00:30:15.279
military or pay their police and some time now, well

558
00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:17.559
it's going to get old in a hurry. If he

559
00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:20.559
fills to pay the family support or whatever else, and

560
00:30:20.599 --> 00:30:23.079
you have no paychecks coming in and then no money

561
00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:25.880
coming into regime, and their inflation and their money is

562
00:30:25.880 --> 00:30:28.319
at like one hundred and eighty percent. It's a it's

563
00:30:28.359 --> 00:30:31.359
a stranglehold of a chunkhold. They have them all on.

564
00:30:31.559 --> 00:30:34.240
It's just a question of the weeks or days or

565
00:30:34.279 --> 00:30:36.319
even hours or weeks before you're going to have to

566
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do something. So I think my optimist I tend to

567
00:30:39.680 --> 00:30:44.119
be very pessimistic in this whole situation. However, I with

568
00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:49.359
a Kirshner and also see see Steve with.

569
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Wick Off and then and then of course you got

570
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jd Vance there too.

571
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He's staying back. He's staying back to not making the

572
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trip with those two now recently are going to go

573
00:30:57.799 --> 00:31:01.440
there Packet Stamp and Jade Vanska standing in the background

574
00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:05.200
in the wigs or participating fully. But it looks like

575
00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:08.480
the wheels maybe are starting to turn and are starting

576
00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:11.039
to turn because we've got a big heavy choke hold

577
00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:14.839
on the RAN, on the regime in Iran, and may

578
00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:18.079
force a settlement. That's the reasonable we hope.

579
00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:21.359
Well five hundred million dollars a day. It's estimated that

580
00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:25.039
they're losing right because ships aren't going in and out

581
00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:28.359
of the strait of horror moves. They're not, you know,

582
00:31:28.400 --> 00:31:32.960
So this looks terrible, and how long can I ron Stone,

583
00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:38.039
you know, withstand this. Meanwhile, domestically inflation well over one

584
00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:42.039
hundred percent, So you already have people upset. They're reluctant

585
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to get back on the streets because in January's you know,

586
00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:47.240
they got on the streets and they mowed down something

587
00:31:47.319 --> 00:31:50.200
like they're saying forty and I've had other reports saying

588
00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:53.279
as much as eighty eighty thousand people they mowed down.

589
00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:56.319
Jared, No, of course, I just hear the reports. Maybe

590
00:31:56.640 --> 00:31:59.599
no one knows the exact number. The ringing machine itself

591
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:03.680
subman of the exec number. But thirty five thousand, forty thousand,

592
00:32:03.720 --> 00:32:08.240
imagined a stadium filled with forty thousand people they're murdered,

593
00:32:08.440 --> 00:32:11.759
that's one thing that's a better. Now, many times their tortured, Yes,

594
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their move their eyes again, put them all cond of torture,

595
00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:18.640
but fine and hang them. Just a heinous, as evil

596
00:32:18.680 --> 00:32:21.799
as any group on the planet. That's what they're going through.

597
00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:24.279
And of course the eighty five percent of the people,

598
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you know, rom would be happy to have a new regime,

599
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but it's the ten or fifteen percent with the guns

600
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that hold the power, and that's the deadlock that we have.

601
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And I don't know if regime change is going to

602
00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:38.599
be possible, but hopefully we can get a reasonable, a

603
00:32:39.799 --> 00:32:44.759
logical outcome that the Ranians agree to. And they are

604
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:47.880
not as unhinged as so we sometimes think they are.

605
00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:54.160
Is the I r jc GC as ideological, ideologically fixed

606
00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:56.680
as these, uh you know, the spiritual leaders.

607
00:32:57.119 --> 00:33:00.279
I think it's about the same the lad of Parlement,

608
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:03.119
and I think they say even I told a junior,

609
00:33:03.440 --> 00:33:05.559
we're supposed to moving in the direction of working out

610
00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:07.880
some kind of the deal, and it was the military

611
00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:11.119
as you refer to them, right that they already want

612
00:33:11.160 --> 00:33:13.319
to put a hall to it. But of course you

613
00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:16.000
don't get any paychecks, you don't have any money coming in.

614
00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:18.559
You start to strangle to death. And at some point

615
00:33:18.640 --> 00:33:22.720
even the fanatics will finally, hopefully see reason. It's easy

616
00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:24.799
to do the right thing. We won't have the other choice.

617
00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:27.160
So we might be may be able to force them

618
00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:31.880
in to a reasonable agreement. We certainly hope. So we can't.

619
00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:33.839
It's not going to come from within. It's not that

620
00:33:33.839 --> 00:33:36.200
they're going to see the light, But as Ronald Ready

621
00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:37.559
used to say, they're not going to see the light,

622
00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:38.839
but they're going to feel the heat.

623
00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:42.279
Right Well, and this is a group that has the

624
00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:45.599
mentality of a death cult. This seems to be their

625
00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:49.640
character that they have demonstrated for decades. And it's not

626
00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:54.240
real surprising for the way the Arabs react and have

627
00:33:54.319 --> 00:33:56.880
been reacting for thousands of years there in the Middle East.

628
00:33:56.880 --> 00:33:58.559
So no big surprise here.

629
00:33:58.519 --> 00:34:02.440
Right, No people look for comparisons in the history, whereas

630
00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:08.280
there been a similar situation. Isaera said that Hilar was

631
00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:12.000
a member of the criminally Insane. Well, maybe he's a parallel,

632
00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:15.400
but also going back kind of surprise. I mentioned it

633
00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:18.079
to some people, but you remember the branch Davidian and

634
00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:21.639
they wish creed right exactly thirty years ago. Well, he's

635
00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:24.400
not leading a nation, but he was willing to die

636
00:34:25.079 --> 00:34:27.760
for his cause and take a great, big conflagration, and

637
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:31.039
they're shitting his own followers, a great, big, huge conflagation,

638
00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:35.480
great blaze of glory and feeling very significant. All human

639
00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:38.599
beings want to be significant, and if you're a reasonal person,

640
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:42.079
resignificant in a pro social way. He was trying to

641
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:45.320
be significant in this hard, horrific way that he has

642
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:47.760
a lot in common with the leaders radical leaders there

643
00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:50.039
an who when they die they're going to go to

644
00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:53.320
heaven and haven't mentioned with seventy virgins or forty purges

645
00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:56.599
or whatever nonsense. They believe they're willing to die and

646
00:34:56.639 --> 00:34:59.719
maybe want to die because that's the kind of people

647
00:34:59.719 --> 00:35:00.599
that were dealing with.

648
00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:03.239
Well, another religious fanatic, as you know, out of San

649
00:35:03.239 --> 00:35:05.840
Francisco was James Jones, right.

650
00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:09.920
Oh yeah, that's right, that's right, Connor, and he was

651
00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:13.360
killing his followers and he didn't commit suicide. Somebody shot

652
00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:15.760
him in the back to Betty. Didn't do it about

653
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:18.960
an hour sooner. Even it was not it was not

654
00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:23.079
it was it was uh, it was flavor aid. It

655
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:25.840
was it was a flavor aid that he had making

656
00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:29.440
poisoned flavor aid. And they're all dying. Come to me, children,

657
00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:34.480
Come to me, children. Human race produces some nutcases. Sometimes

658
00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:37.559
with nutcases are positions of power, and a lot of

659
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:40.199
pain and torture comes as a result.

660
00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:43.320
Well, the reason I ask about the ideology of the

661
00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:46.440
I r GC is that on the surface, as you know,

662
00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:50.880
being an infantry officer, I mean the mentality of a

663
00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:55.079
mercenary is different than somebody who is really you know,

664
00:35:55.559 --> 00:36:00.440
committed to the theocracy or you know, call what you

665
00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:03.440
want the ideology of their mission.

666
00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:07.800
Yes, there was a mercenary. You can deal with that.

667
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:11.639
They want money, right, they want material things. Well, that

668
00:36:11.679 --> 00:36:13.920
way to talk to you, that way you understand and we

669
00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:15.960
can relate to even though they're on the many times

670
00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:18.119
on the wrong side of the line. But we have

671
00:36:18.159 --> 00:36:20.880
people where money means nothing to the human life means

672
00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:24.480
nothing to them, and their own continued existence means nothing

673
00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:26.440
to them. And they liked the idea of dying as

674
00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:29.960
markers or there's twisted work costs. They're the most difficult

675
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:33.000
people of all to deal with. I also might mention this.

676
00:36:33.719 --> 00:36:37.199
There was an expert on a nuclear expert. He was

677
00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:39.840
on squad Box just about three or four days ago.

678
00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:43.320
Everything said David Albright, and he can charged the large

679
00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:48.400
scientific organization. He say, a nuclear inspection expert has been

680
00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:50.480
involved in these issues in the past, and he was saying,

681
00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:55.320
based on their information that the Iranians were only six

682
00:36:55.440 --> 00:36:59.159
months away from being able to turn their nuclear material

683
00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:02.679
into nuclear weapons, into a nuclear bomb that they could

684
00:37:02.679 --> 00:37:05.960
put on the tips of their missiles. And see he

685
00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:08.559
said that some estimates for three months. His estimate his

686
00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:11.559
group was six months. Well six months. That means that's

687
00:37:11.960 --> 00:37:15.159
in octobers before the midterms. So those people think we

688
00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:17.480
should meet weight left for the mid term. By the way,

689
00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:20.599
we just kind of pause a second. I can't imagine

690
00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:25.760
anything more Nightmary horrific than those fanatics that are on

691
00:37:26.199 --> 00:37:30.159
having ten or eleven nuclear weapons, nuclear missiles right for

692
00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:33.800
exactly they blow up. Tell me, first of all, they

693
00:37:33.880 --> 00:37:36.679
blow up, they're on I don't know. The second when

694
00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:39.760
they blow up, they range their missiles to get wrong.

695
00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:42.440
They blow up wrong, they blow Paris, blow London. Oh

696
00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:44.800
they wouldn't do that, Oh yes they would, Oh yes.

697
00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:48.320
Right exactly, Yeah they would. They would do it as

698
00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:50.760
much as the Democrats would blow up the filibuster. But

699
00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:53.119
that's a that's a whole nother story. Anyway, we got

700
00:37:53.159 --> 00:37:55.280
to go to quick breaking up from more from Jared.

701
00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:56.000
Stay with us.

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Hey, welcome back, Go mar chinus here, which are not

782
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the decorated combat infantry officer in Vietnam in the first

783
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Cavalry Division and author of Tiny Blunders, Big Disasters and

784
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Jared as you were saying that you know these uh

785
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uh I don't know these ideologues. They're they're just so

786
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you know, so committed and and so crazy by Western standards,

787
00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:25.760
and it's hard for people on the West to really

788
00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:29.199
understand this kind of barbarism. As you were talking about

789
00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:32.480
the way. You know, it's terrible enough that they slaughtered people,

790
00:42:32.840 --> 00:42:35.840
but reports are coming out, uh with what they did

791
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with women, that they would they they would mass rape

792
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these women, they would gang rape them. You know you're

793
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gonna die, and they abuse the holy what have you

794
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out of you? And then they uh you know, then

795
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they gang rape you just for you know, I guess

796
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for the cherry on top, so to speak.

797
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Yes, you are lay out of the spectrum of the

798
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best people on earth, the Teresa people like their went

799
00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:03.119
in and the most evil people on earth at the

800
00:43:03.159 --> 00:43:06.599
other end, Uh, the leaders Aron would be there, and

801
00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:11.159
they're there with a special twist. A criminal may want money,

802
00:43:11.159 --> 00:43:13.519
you may want your freedom, he may want to say

803
00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:18.159
these whatever, but these people want something in the next life.

804
00:43:18.440 --> 00:43:21.559
I think he wants something to die for their cause.

805
00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:24.960
We may want something fanatical and you can't give them

806
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anything that would satisfy them.

807
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But you can't.

808
00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:31.800
As were mentioning earlier, they can be strangled nearly to debt.

809
00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:34.880
They're all their money cut off, all their weapons that

810
00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:38.679
cut off, their supplies cut off. They can be forced

811
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into an agreement kind of very much against their will.

812
00:43:42.760 --> 00:43:45.599
When they pay their troops. They cannot pay the military

813
00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:49.480
when they don't shut down their oil wells, whether it's

814
00:43:49.559 --> 00:43:53.320
forced into a corner. Then finally, that kind of a force,

815
00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:58.360
that kind of a military pressure, can make them take

816
00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:00.400
the steps that they need to take. That's where going.

817
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:01.079
That's what we want.

818
00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:04.159
Can we get an unconditional surrender out of them.

819
00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:06.159
I don't think so. I don't think so. I know

820
00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:08.599
we're going to be lucky to be able to get

821
00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:11.679
a reasonable off ramp in which they'd give up their

822
00:44:11.840 --> 00:44:15.360
access to the nuclear material, in which they stopped spreading

823
00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:18.400
terrorism in the Middle East, or at least greatly reduce it.

824
00:44:18.639 --> 00:44:21.079
We can get those two things out of the situation,

825
00:44:21.199 --> 00:44:24.800
eliminate the nuclear threat, eliminate their pressure in other countries,

826
00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:27.679
but the regime still stays in power. We can get

827
00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:30.400
that far. That would be a victory. We may have

828
00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:33.119
to take it now. It could be with the help

829
00:44:33.199 --> 00:44:35.400
of the CIA or whatever. That the people that are

830
00:44:35.480 --> 00:44:37.719
on eighty five percent of whom we'd love to have

831
00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:40.639
a different regime, they may be able to rise up

832
00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:44.119
against their oppressors. But remember they have like a million

833
00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:47.880
men under arms and who are mental in their own right,

834
00:44:47.960 --> 00:44:50.320
and so that's going to be a very very tough

835
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:51.599
nut to crack, all right.

836
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:54.920
You know, I've suggested maybe the Kurds get involved.

837
00:44:54.920 --> 00:44:57.599
What do you think that was suggested even three or

838
00:44:57.639 --> 00:45:00.159
four weeks ago, and they were saying they thought they

839
00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:02.840
were turning that down. Donald Trump was and I don't

840
00:45:02.880 --> 00:45:05.880
know exactly why they thought that it's just a confusion

841
00:45:06.039 --> 00:45:08.400
or would not be affected. I don't know why they

842
00:45:08.440 --> 00:45:11.039
said noted em but that seems like attempting the idea.

843
00:45:11.639 --> 00:45:13.679
Maybe it starts with the curage and spreads in the

844
00:45:13.679 --> 00:45:15.639
north and then they could spread to the country or something.

845
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:17.639
But they I'm sure they thought that out, and the

846
00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:20.000
reasons why they don't think that's going to be effected.

847
00:45:20.760 --> 00:45:23.719
Though that would be a possible solution as a late

848
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:25.920
person looking at it from thousands of miles away, but

849
00:45:25.960 --> 00:45:28.719
they're probably good reasons why they don't think it would.

850
00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:32.039
Work, right exactly, Well, the deal is I also look

851
00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:34.079
at you know, this is a bit of an octopus here.

852
00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:37.320
It runs the head, but you still got tentacles in Lebanon.

853
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:41.599
You've got the tentacles with the hoodies, and still you've

854
00:45:41.599 --> 00:45:45.360
got Hamasque controlling about forty five percent of the Gaza.

855
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:49.760
So You've got to uproot all all this mess, do

856
00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:52.360
you not? And the only way to do it is

857
00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:56.519
it's gonna I mean again, you're an infantry officer. You

858
00:45:56.559 --> 00:46:00.519
know that air power and maybe can give you so much.

859
00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:03.920
But if you're looking for an unconditional surrender and to

860
00:46:03.960 --> 00:46:08.880
get this insanity uprooted out of these areas, I don't

861
00:46:08.920 --> 00:46:11.400
know how you do it without without ground forces.

862
00:46:11.639 --> 00:46:16.559
Well then they can cut off the money supplying these groups,

863
00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:20.679
supplying moss and who these and so on, I think,

864
00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:23.920
and all the money that October the seventh was financed

865
00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:27.559
through irancy has gone. The military support has gone, the

866
00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:30.239
logistics are gone, and it's pressure put on a Ran

867
00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:34.079
to pull them in keep them under under control. Uh.

868
00:46:34.360 --> 00:46:37.760
That is, it's sort of like branches of the evil

869
00:46:38.079 --> 00:46:44.440
tree and effectively neutralize the tree itself, the courtself. Those

870
00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:48.519
branches maybe able to be controlled also, that that would

871
00:46:48.559 --> 00:46:51.239
be the hope is without the support of Iran, they

872
00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:52.840
would wither to some extent.

873
00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:57.320
Right Well, as you said earlier, I mean this kind

874
00:46:57.320 --> 00:46:59.519
of cracked me up. I mean, they go into negotiations,

875
00:46:59.519 --> 00:47:03.280
this was the round of negotiations, and they arrogantly say

876
00:47:03.320 --> 00:47:08.599
they've got enough uranium and rich uranium to build eleven nukes.

877
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:12.440
Like we need further discussion here, I mean, I mean,

878
00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:15.719
come on, give me a break. You know, I was surprised,

879
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:19.960
but it speaks of their arrogance and confidence. I mean maybe,

880
00:47:20.360 --> 00:47:23.880
I mean, somebody's fulling somebody. Either they're fooling themselves or

881
00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:25.000
they're fooling us.

882
00:47:25.320 --> 00:47:28.800
Well, I think that it's considered credible that they have

883
00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:32.880
a thousand pounds of rich uranium and that's enough for

884
00:47:33.079 --> 00:47:36.159
ten or eleven nuclear weapons. In fact, it's expert that

885
00:47:36.239 --> 00:47:40.519
David Albright it was referring to that very thing, and

886
00:47:40.239 --> 00:47:42.519
I went back to the same subject again. I cannot

887
00:47:42.519 --> 00:47:46.440
tell you. Oh, it cannot be overstated how extremely dangerous

888
00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:50.280
that situation is. Six months, by the way, he says,

889
00:47:50.280 --> 00:47:52.599
now with all the damage that's been done, it's been

890
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:55.760
pushed back at least two years. Yeah, that's good. But

891
00:47:56.199 --> 00:47:59.960
they had done October or September October, some people say

892
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:03.039
three months six of the ractover they had ten nuclear weapons.

893
00:48:03.199 --> 00:48:04.719
Oh my gosh.

894
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:08.679
Yeah. Can we trust this intel, Jared? I mean, this

895
00:48:08.760 --> 00:48:13.480
seems to be all estimates. You know, we really, I mean,

896
00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:18.239
we trust, but verify, and you know, we're just hoping

897
00:48:18.360 --> 00:48:22.119
upon hope that the intel is correct that we're getting

898
00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:25.239
from you know, from Israel, from the CIA and our

899
00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:28.400
other information services for America.

900
00:48:29.079 --> 00:48:31.800
Well, of course, well they're not perfect. They got surprised

901
00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:35.079
in October the seventh in Maasad. The intelligent system for

902
00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:38.760
Israel has been extremely extremely successful. Who killed an awful

903
00:48:38.840 --> 00:48:40.679
lot of the leaders by knowing where they were at

904
00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:44.559
any particular moment, any particular time. And so the information

905
00:48:44.679 --> 00:48:47.280
we have is probably pretty good. It's one advantage that

906
00:48:47.320 --> 00:48:50.760
the West had. We have exquisite information. But the location

907
00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:54.440
and the behavior of the leaders, and I would prefer

908
00:48:55.320 --> 00:48:57.760
the location of the nuclear material. They think they know

909
00:48:57.880 --> 00:49:00.599
where it is. It's very a certain place. Sayre watching

910
00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:02.880
it very closely. If the Raneans were to go there

911
00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:05.079
and try to dig it up, there would be an

912
00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:11.000
action that could result there. So it's hopefully under control,

913
00:49:11.159 --> 00:49:12.920
and if we follow through with where we are, we

914
00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:15.239
can have a good chance of eliminating maybe even taking

915
00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:18.000
physical possession of it. Or there's we're talking about putting

916
00:49:18.000 --> 00:49:21.960
out a kind of special agent that puts a very

917
00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:25.519
deadly gas into the location that would last for one

918
00:49:25.559 --> 00:49:27.679
hundred years. You couldn't go near it for one hundred years,

919
00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:30.480
maybe different things that could be done there. So I

920
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:33.159
think now that we're moving the wheels of the atturny,

921
00:49:33.159 --> 00:49:36.000
we've been so effective with everything else, I think that

922
00:49:36.039 --> 00:49:38.360
we should be able to control a knock on wood.

923
00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:44.119
If those people it's scary to think if Kamala Harris

924
00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:47.079
had been president of the United States, yeah, yeah, this

925
00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:50.480
would happen, and they would have nuclear weapons and oh

926
00:49:50.519 --> 00:49:54.079
my god, god, it's bad enough in Korea has nuclear weapons.

927
00:49:54.239 --> 00:49:57.000
But evil as they are, the hands are dipped in blood.

928
00:49:57.719 --> 00:50:02.920
They are at least rational, They understand safety and money

929
00:50:02.960 --> 00:50:04.599
and so on and so forth. They respond like an

930
00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:08.960
intelligent person. These people, they're wrong, are different football together.

931
00:50:09.199 --> 00:50:11.599
Money means nothing to their lives, mean nothing to their

932
00:50:11.599 --> 00:50:14.000
own lives, mean nothing to the dealing with people just

933
00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:17.960
way off the deep end, scariest kind of human being

934
00:50:18.480 --> 00:50:19.199
they had to deal with.

935
00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:23.079
Well, whether it's Kamala Harris or any other Democrat for

936
00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:25.719
that matter, I mean, hey, look at Bill Clinton's had

937
00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:29.920
his fingerprints on this. Barack Obama certainly even more so

938
00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:32.840
with pallets of cash at the dark of night, you know,

939
00:50:33.000 --> 00:50:36.119
with unmarked bills over a billion dollar billion and a

940
00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:42.880
half plus which basically financed their terror activities. And not

941
00:50:42.960 --> 00:50:45.800
to mention that, but you took sanctions off Joe Biden,

942
00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:48.840
what he did, how he mishandled this whole situation. I

943
00:50:48.880 --> 00:50:52.400
mean this has been, you know, a bundled mess from

944
00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:52.960
day one.

945
00:50:54.039 --> 00:50:57.840
Yes, history has, according Jimmy Carter of all people, but

946
00:50:57.920 --> 00:51:02.199
he said history teats, which is very few clear messages,

947
00:51:02.239 --> 00:51:06.440
and one of them is that ignored aggression simply expands

948
00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:09.840
the aggression. Well, if you have peace, appeasement just makes

949
00:51:09.840 --> 00:51:12.000
the situation worse. If you give them cash, if you

950
00:51:12.119 --> 00:51:15.519
give them concessions, if you give them victories, it just

951
00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:17.960
it takes the problem, makes it ten twenty times worse.

952
00:51:18.039 --> 00:51:21.199
For the devil Chamberlain and being the most obviously, I was.

953
00:51:21.159 --> 00:51:23.119
Going to say, what did what did World War one

954
00:51:23.159 --> 00:51:25.440
and two in Vietnam? I mean, go down the list.

955
00:51:25.559 --> 00:51:26.639
What did it teach us?

956
00:51:26.840 --> 00:51:27.079
Yeah?

957
00:51:27.559 --> 00:51:30.039
Of course getting off the plane there in nineteen thirty eight,

958
00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:32.880
I think it was, Yes, the document that we have

959
00:51:32.920 --> 00:51:37.360
achieved peace in our time. Yeah, last very long, did it?

960
00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:41.639
Going way back to World War One, Berging was a

961
00:51:41.679 --> 00:51:43.960
brilliant general. Some people say one of the great best

962
00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:46.280
generals the United States that were produced for US coming

963
00:51:46.280 --> 00:51:49.000
out of West Point, and he was assistent that we

964
00:51:49.079 --> 00:51:52.960
have unconditional surrender. In World War One. He said, if

965
00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:56.760
we do not get unconditional surrender, they would just lick

966
00:51:56.840 --> 00:51:58.880
their wounds and come after us again. And they put

967
00:51:58.880 --> 00:52:01.559
it bled arm tonally, just to be quiet. You're just

968
00:52:01.599 --> 00:52:05.960
in the military arm politicians will make these decisions agreement.

969
00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:08.599
There was a surrender, but definitely a long way from

970
00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:11.840
being unconditional surrender. And sure enough, twenty five so idy

971
00:52:11.920 --> 00:52:15.360
years later, here they are again. So that was and

972
00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:18.599
they wisely in World War two, we could have accepted

973
00:52:18.639 --> 00:52:21.480
a fairly generous peace on the part of the military

974
00:52:21.599 --> 00:52:25.159
leaders of Japan. They're willing to surrender, but they were

975
00:52:25.159 --> 00:52:27.239
not willing to give us an unconditional surrender. By the way,

976
00:52:27.280 --> 00:52:29.800
they have a kind of an early retirement program. They

977
00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:32.280
have to cut their stomach out with Harry Carey in

978
00:52:32.320 --> 00:52:36.679
those sites, so they're reluctant to They had a disgraceful

979
00:52:36.719 --> 00:52:41.960
surrender anyway. So we consisted, insisted on an unconditional surrender

980
00:52:41.960 --> 00:52:44.880
for Japan as well as for Germany. If we'd let

981
00:52:44.920 --> 00:52:46.800
Hitler in place, my gosh, I would have been in

982
00:52:46.840 --> 00:52:50.000
a nightmare we left the military demanded place that would

983
00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:54.519
have been a nightmare. Unconditional surrender was absolutely needed. No situations.

984
00:52:54.599 --> 00:52:55.960
I don't think we're going to be able to get

985
00:52:55.960 --> 00:52:59.519
it and be able to accomplished major ejectives is all

986
00:52:59.559 --> 00:53:01.280
we could hope exactly.

987
00:53:01.480 --> 00:53:04.079
Well, Jared not thank you for being with us. He

988
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is a Vietnam VET First Air Cavalry Division Decorated Infantry

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officer and author of Tiny Blunders and Big Disasters. Jared,

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1011
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Well, good morning, six minutes after the top of the hour,

1012
00:54:31.679 --> 00:54:34.119
Bill Martinez here. Great to have you with us. It's

1013
00:54:34.159 --> 00:54:36.559
also great to have back with us. It's been a

1014
00:54:36.599 --> 00:54:40.599
minute or two. Victoria Jackson and the one and only.

1015
00:54:41.039 --> 00:54:43.280
How you doing, lady. Good to talk to you again.

1016
00:54:43.320 --> 00:54:44.079
You look terrific.

1017
00:54:44.599 --> 00:54:45.639
You look terrific.

1018
00:54:46.000 --> 00:54:48.480
I mean for somebody who's not dead yet. You say

1019
00:54:48.519 --> 00:54:52.639
in your book, do I look alive? Very much so?

1020
00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:54.760
And uh, you know, but it's so good. I mean,

1021
00:54:55.039 --> 00:54:57.119
you know, all the times we run even at NRB,

1022
00:54:57.440 --> 00:55:00.800
we we've run into and you know, we've talked. You know,

1023
00:55:01.079 --> 00:55:03.159
I've had you on the show maybe three or four times.

1024
00:55:03.480 --> 00:55:05.880
And I was telling you before we went on, is

1025
00:55:05.920 --> 00:55:09.840
that I'm a little disturbed because here I am finding

1026
00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:12.480
after all the times and things we've talked about, I'm

1027
00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:15.719
finding out new stuff about you. Your gymnastics background. How

1028
00:55:15.719 --> 00:55:17.000
come you didn't tell me about that?

1029
00:55:18.960 --> 00:55:20.199
You never asked?

1030
00:55:25.760 --> 00:55:29.320
Well anyway, no, but me know it's good that, ye,

1031
00:55:29.400 --> 00:55:33.079
I mean you you have there's such a breath to

1032
00:55:33.119 --> 00:55:36.760
your personality it just never ends. And so why not?

1033
00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:40.079
I mean, is there any place in the world that

1034
00:55:40.119 --> 00:55:43.159
you haven't you know, done a handstand?

1035
00:55:45.519 --> 00:55:47.719
I have not done it in North Korea?

1036
00:55:48.400 --> 00:55:51.159
Okay, all right, okay? Is that on your bucket list?

1037
00:55:51.840 --> 00:55:51.920
No?

1038
00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:54.519
Okay, I do not want to go there.

1039
00:55:54.559 --> 00:55:56.360
I heard it's very dangerous.

1040
00:55:56.880 --> 00:55:59.800
Yeah, but but maybe you might, you might loosen them

1041
00:55:59.880 --> 00:56:03.119
up little bit, just you know, by showing him a handstand,

1042
00:56:03.159 --> 00:56:04.519
because there's an art to it, right.

1043
00:56:05.800 --> 00:56:09.039
Well, the whole thing about the handstand. The reason I

1044
00:56:09.119 --> 00:56:14.280
put together this book is well, when I was in

1045
00:56:14.320 --> 00:56:17.920
my thirties and a mom, I had an accident in

1046
00:56:17.960 --> 00:56:21.880
a dishwasher and I accidentally cut my wrist with a glass,

1047
00:56:22.519 --> 00:56:27.920
not on purpose, subconscious that I didn't like housework, but

1048
00:56:28.159 --> 00:56:31.239
it was not on purpose, and I realized for the

1049
00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:35.280
first time, I can't do a handstand anymore because I

1050
00:56:35.320 --> 00:56:39.840
had surgery on my wrist. Kevin Neilan asked me to

1051
00:56:39.920 --> 00:56:43.719
open for him in Vegas doing stand up, and I

1052
00:56:43.800 --> 00:56:48.400
said Kevin, I don't even I don't have an stand

1053
00:56:48.440 --> 00:56:50.960
up act, and he goes, no, you know what you

1054
00:56:51.079 --> 00:56:53.920
used to do on Johnny Carson, And I said, oh,

1055
00:56:54.360 --> 00:56:56.519
what did I do? So I went and looked at

1056
00:56:56.519 --> 00:56:59.119
my old tapes and part of my act was doing

1057
00:56:59.119 --> 00:57:03.920
a handstand reciting poetry. Okay, well that's three minutes that

1058
00:57:04.000 --> 00:57:07.480
I can't do. What else did I do? Play the ukulele,

1059
00:57:07.880 --> 00:57:12.719
talk about my life? So I started to appreciate the

1060
00:57:12.760 --> 00:57:15.800
handstand and then I realized I had photos of me

1061
00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:19.159
doing it since I was born, and my father doing

1062
00:57:19.199 --> 00:57:23.079
it because he was a women's gymnastics coach, right, and

1063
00:57:23.159 --> 00:57:25.079
I had pictures of him doing it on top of

1064
00:57:25.119 --> 00:57:31.559
his Ford Opera coop in nineteen fifty nineteen fifty at

1065
00:57:32.519 --> 00:57:35.800
and really great pictures like that. And he took a

1066
00:57:35.840 --> 00:57:38.039
picture of me on my first car when I was

1067
00:57:38.079 --> 00:57:43.119
a teenager, and I realized and then I started thinking, Wow,

1068
00:57:43.400 --> 00:57:46.119
now that I'm doing stand up in cities all across

1069
00:57:46.199 --> 00:57:50.880
America and Canada and sometimes Europe, why don't I take

1070
00:57:51.239 --> 00:57:57.159
a handstand photo in every city as a souvenir. And

1071
00:57:57.199 --> 00:58:01.079
then I also wrote poems since I was a child,

1072
00:58:01.840 --> 00:58:05.719
and I wanted to put them all together, my poems

1073
00:58:05.760 --> 00:58:10.239
on my handstand chronologically to look at my life from

1074
00:58:10.360 --> 00:58:14.599
child to old lady and see what it looked like.

1075
00:58:15.480 --> 00:58:18.119
And then when I got so I've always had that

1076
00:58:18.159 --> 00:58:20.239
in the back of my mind. And then when I

1077
00:58:20.280 --> 00:58:28.880
got diagnosed with stage four terminal, inoperable metastasized breast cancer

1078
00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:35.239
two years ago, I thought, well, I better do it now,

1079
00:58:36.199 --> 00:58:39.519
you know, get your things in order. Like God said

1080
00:58:39.519 --> 00:58:43.039
to Hezekiah, you're gonna die soon, get your things in order.

1081
00:58:43.119 --> 00:58:45.960
So me and my husband went and got a grave,

1082
00:58:46.800 --> 00:58:52.800
we actually a crypt, which is a drawer, and we

1083
00:58:53.239 --> 00:58:56.519
and I made a will, and I made my book

1084
00:58:56.760 --> 00:58:57.960
my final tone.

1085
00:58:59.119 --> 00:59:04.039
Here it is. And you know, in the situation again

1086
00:59:04.119 --> 00:59:06.639
with the handstand, in hearing about you and your father,

1087
00:59:06.920 --> 00:59:10.639
and he was a gymnastics teacher and all this, I

1088
00:59:11.159 --> 00:59:14.320
could only imagine that if anybody came into the household,

1089
00:59:15.519 --> 00:59:17.239
you know, part of the qualifying is that you had

1090
00:59:17.239 --> 00:59:20.840
to do a handstand before you crossed over the you know,

1091
00:59:21.079 --> 00:59:22.280
into the doorway, right.

1092
00:59:22.599 --> 00:59:25.719
Well, you didn't have to, but he would teach anyone

1093
00:59:25.880 --> 00:59:30.159
who was willing. He loved teaching gymnastics. He had a

1094
00:59:30.320 --> 00:59:33.440
passion for it. And so we had a gym in

1095
00:59:33.480 --> 00:59:38.800
our backyard. He taught classes every day after school, and

1096
00:59:39.079 --> 00:59:41.800
up until he was eighty years old, he was teached.

1097
00:59:42.679 --> 00:59:45.239
Wow, that's great. Well, I love the quote from Orwell

1098
00:59:45.280 --> 00:59:48.079
that you have in the book. You are noticed more

1099
00:59:48.280 --> 00:59:51.880
if you stand on your head than if you were

1100
00:59:52.039 --> 00:59:55.639
right way up. George Orwell, course is noted for that.

1101
00:59:56.320 --> 00:59:58.760
Maybe that might be appropriate for some of the politicians

1102
00:59:58.800 --> 00:59:59.840
in DC. What do you think?

1103
01:00:00.559 --> 01:00:03.719
Well, First of all, what a funny quote to come

1104
01:00:03.719 --> 01:00:06.880
from the George Orwell who wrote the book nineteen eighty

1105
01:00:06.920 --> 01:00:13.039
four and Animal Farm. He I was looking him up

1106
01:00:13.119 --> 01:00:15.639
one day and I stumbled on that quote, and I

1107
01:00:15.679 --> 01:00:19.920
was like, because I love George Orwell, because I'm fighting

1108
01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:25.239
communism too. When Obama was the president, I was like, people,

1109
01:00:25.559 --> 01:00:30.519
he's a communist And nobody was listening to me but

1110
01:00:31.199 --> 01:00:36.440
maybe a few people. But because Obama said spread the wealth,

1111
01:00:36.960 --> 01:00:40.880
and that's a direct quote from the Communist manifesto, which

1112
01:00:40.920 --> 01:00:44.840
I learned about in my private Christian school. In between

1113
01:00:45.079 --> 01:00:48.639
doing handstands, Hey, Bill, should I go get my books?

1114
01:00:48.719 --> 01:00:49.719
I can hold it up.

1115
01:00:50.159 --> 01:00:51.559
Yeah, you can. You can do well? Tell you what

1116
01:00:51.639 --> 01:00:54.000
in just a minute, because we'll go to break and

1117
01:00:54.039 --> 01:00:55.840
then when we're on break, you can do that. And

1118
01:00:56.320 --> 01:00:59.920
because also in the first part of the book, Tie

1119
01:01:00.559 --> 01:01:08.239
not dead yet, you know a lifetime of handstands and handstands,

1120
01:01:08.360 --> 01:01:12.760
art and poetry. You also explain to everybody, and this

1121
01:01:12.800 --> 01:01:15.320
is a teaching lesson for us, is how to hold

1122
01:01:15.360 --> 01:01:16.159
a handstand?

1123
01:01:18.159 --> 01:01:18.400
Yes?

1124
01:01:19.599 --> 01:01:22.719
First of all, standing on your head is different than

1125
01:01:22.840 --> 01:01:26.800
a handstand. Yes, easier to stand on your head because

1126
01:01:26.800 --> 01:01:30.519
you have three things touching the ground. When you do

1127
01:01:30.559 --> 01:01:33.480
a handstand, you only have your hands touching the ground.

1128
01:01:34.039 --> 01:01:41.079
And so I thought people are probably curious how you

1129
01:01:41.159 --> 01:01:44.119
do it, So I teach them in the second page

1130
01:01:44.119 --> 01:01:47.199
of the book, just so that they can practice and

1131
01:01:47.280 --> 01:01:50.159
learn it. You know, it takes five years to learn it?

1132
01:01:50.719 --> 01:01:52.119
Does it really five years?

1133
01:01:52.719 --> 01:01:53.199
Yeah?

1134
01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:53.480
Maybe?

1135
01:01:53.559 --> 01:01:56.079
Because you know what and you're right, I'm glad you

1136
01:01:56.119 --> 01:02:00.239
differentiated the fact that difference between a handstand and and

1137
01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:01.519
and a headstand.

1138
01:02:01.599 --> 01:02:01.719
Right.

1139
01:02:02.239 --> 01:02:04.440
Uh So I'm glad you did that because you know,

1140
01:02:04.519 --> 01:02:07.239
when I first you know, saw this, I said, well

1141
01:02:07.320 --> 01:02:10.000
I could, I could do that. I haven't attempted to

1142
01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:13.199
do the handstand yet. But now you tell me this

1143
01:02:13.239 --> 01:02:14.639
is going to be a five year project.

1144
01:02:15.599 --> 01:02:19.679
Oh yes, it is. You see you bend over, you

1145
01:02:19.800 --> 01:02:23.480
kick up, you put your best foot forward. That's how

1146
01:02:23.519 --> 01:02:26.440
my dad teaches little girls. If they're left handed, they

1147
01:02:26.440 --> 01:02:31.400
stick their left foot out automatically. It's funny. Most people

1148
01:02:31.480 --> 01:02:32.360
are right handed, though.

1149
01:02:32.599 --> 01:02:35.519
You stick your left left to foot out.

1150
01:02:35.760 --> 01:02:38.320
No, you stick your favorite foot out.

1151
01:02:38.280 --> 01:02:40.920
Your favorite foot out. Shake it all about, do the

1152
01:02:41.239 --> 01:02:44.199
poky and over up.

1153
01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:49.559
You should kick up against a wall for the first year,

1154
01:02:50.400 --> 01:02:53.840
and then slowly bring your feet away from the wall

1155
01:02:53.880 --> 01:02:56.800
and try to balance. You have to balance, so I

1156
01:02:56.800 --> 01:03:01.440
would scrunch up my fingers and wiggle your elbows trying

1157
01:03:01.480 --> 01:03:05.559
to find the sweet spot where your legs will balance.

1158
01:03:06.039 --> 01:03:09.920
It's mostly back muscles. You have to keep very stiff,

1159
01:03:09.960 --> 01:03:12.000
and you have to keep your head up. If you

1160
01:03:12.480 --> 01:03:15.320
lower your head you'll fall. And I don't know, it's

1161
01:03:15.360 --> 01:03:16.880
kind of metaphoric sounding.

1162
01:03:17.159 --> 01:03:20.039
I was going to say, it seems that there's a

1163
01:03:20.079 --> 01:03:24.000
lot of metaphoric application in terms of life, liberty and

1164
01:03:24.039 --> 01:03:26.039
the pursuit of happiness. We got to go to quick rank.

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01:03:26.079 --> 01:03:27.960
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Welcome back, Bill Martinez here with Victoria Jackson. We're talking

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about her new book, Not Dead Yet, A Lifetime of Handstands,

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Art and Poetry. Look at that. It's beautiful. Of course

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01:08:08.280 --> 01:08:12.519
that's pink, right, because you are. I mean, that's your color.

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Is it my color?

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01:08:14.480 --> 01:08:16.840
I believe it is. Every time I've seen you, you've

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01:08:16.880 --> 01:08:22.039
been You've been very pinky. Except today. Except today. Yeah,

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01:08:22.159 --> 01:08:22.600
look at that.

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01:08:23.119 --> 01:08:26.279
Here's me and my daughter doing a handstand in front

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01:08:26.279 --> 01:08:30.600
of the Lucy Old Ball statue in lah This is

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01:08:30.640 --> 01:08:35.119
my husband's police car. I'm doing a handstand on top

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01:08:35.159 --> 01:08:41.800
of it. This is on Saturday Night Live with Dennis Miller,

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01:08:41.880 --> 01:08:44.079
doing it on the update desk with a flag on

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my butt.

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Uh.

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This is a hop beach Atlantic University, where I went

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back to get my degree when I was forty eight. Yeah,

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01:08:54.479 --> 01:08:59.960
so you know it's Uh. I love autobiographies and memo

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01:09:00.479 --> 01:09:04.119
and I listened to them on tape every night, so

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I thought, well, maybe someone will get a kick out

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of it.

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01:09:08.520 --> 01:09:12.119
Well, this is so cool because you know, like you said,

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I mean, we're talking handstands, but we're also talking you know,

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a big part of your life has been writing poetry.

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You've written all your life. Were you were you kind

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01:09:21.760 --> 01:09:23.039
of like writing out of the womb?

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Well, I was church out of the womb, and I

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01:09:28.720 --> 01:09:34.199
think that they sang rhymed years I spent in vanity

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and pride, caring. Not my lord was crucifi, No, not,

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01:09:39.880 --> 01:09:44.760
it was for me. He died a cow. So I

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01:09:44.800 --> 01:09:49.720
think that I heard poetry a lot as a child

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in church. And then when I was sixty five, me

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01:09:55.039 --> 01:09:58.680
and my husband went on a Greek cruise, and that's

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the part then on and.

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01:10:03.439 --> 01:10:05.279
So so when you're when you're taking right, I mean,

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you and your husband, nice time together everything, and you go,

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01:10:08.840 --> 01:10:11.720
hey stop, I gotta go do a handstand. He's going, oh,

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he just it's just it comes with the package, right.

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01:10:15.680 --> 01:10:18.800
Well, my family's used to it now, funny you should

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say that, and they they're they're so used to it,

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01:10:23.399 --> 01:10:26.199
and it's a big ordeal because you got we had

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to stop the cab in at the Parthenon, and the

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01:10:29.800 --> 01:10:32.880
cab driver got a ticket because she wasn't allowed to

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stop there. But that was the perfect view of the

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01:10:35.279 --> 01:10:38.439
part for the hands. Then you have to make sure

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where your hands are. Sometimes I was on snow, sometimes

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01:10:42.239 --> 01:10:46.079
gravel which hurts your hands. Yeah, you have to think

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01:10:46.119 --> 01:10:53.079
about oh millions of different problems. The best handstands are

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the ones that are dangerous, like on a high wall

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01:10:57.039 --> 01:11:01.720
or the Martini glass back, but the Poconos which is

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01:11:01.760 --> 01:11:07.239
thirty feet high, you know. But the poems, here's the

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01:11:07.399 --> 01:11:10.439
and there's stories too, But the main thread of the

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01:11:10.479 --> 01:11:14.720
whole book is how God's word helped me through my

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01:11:15.199 --> 01:11:19.439
every problem in my life because I became a Christian

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when I was six, I asked Jesus into my heart

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and ever since then, God has helped me and been

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with me like he promised he would. And the Lord's

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01:11:30.079 --> 01:11:34.520
going to go with me through the adventure of death soon.

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And I wanted to encourage people, and I sprinkled the

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Bible in through my story because it is a big

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part of the story.

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Right as you passed from this life into eternity, and

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it's like it's a rebirth, isn't it. When you think

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01:11:53.279 --> 01:11:55.720
about it. I know that when my dad passed, God

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01:11:55.760 --> 01:11:57.720
gave me a lot of comfort. My dad and I

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were really close, and God gave me a lot of

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01:12:01.039 --> 01:12:04.880
comfort to see my father being born into eternity and

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Jesus being there to meet him. That just gave me

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so much comfort.

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Huh. Well, I was asking God when I die, could

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it please be no fear, no sadness, and no pain.

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And then one day I thought, oh, that would be

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in my sleep. So now I'm saying, Lord, you're the boss,

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when I die, could it please be in my sleep?

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Right?

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01:12:30.199 --> 01:12:33.119
Exactly? Well, hey, look at we don't have the Bible

1330
01:12:33.159 --> 01:12:36.840
says because we don't ask, right, that's right, So we

1331
01:12:36.920 --> 01:12:40.359
get to ask. So here all that you've been dealing with,

1332
01:12:40.720 --> 01:12:43.479
dealing with the terminal disease, and of course you're still

1333
01:12:43.560 --> 01:12:46.760
Victoria Jackson. You take it with a smile on your face.

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01:12:46.880 --> 01:12:50.760
I mean, your faith is what animates you, what gives

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01:12:50.760 --> 01:12:53.640
you hope, what gets you up every morning. I mean,

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01:12:53.960 --> 01:12:57.039
and I think that the last time we ran into

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01:12:57.079 --> 01:12:59.840
each other, we were in Tennessee, and that's when you told

1338
01:12:59.920 --> 01:13:02.079
me that you were you were dealing with with the

1339
01:13:02.119 --> 01:13:06.720
breast cancer at that point, and so I'm glad that

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01:13:06.800 --> 01:13:10.279
we have a chance to meet up and talk and

1341
01:13:10.520 --> 01:13:13.960
you know, celebrate your new book and share with our audience. Uh,

1342
01:13:14.399 --> 01:13:18.000
you know, the fun and animation that is the one

1343
01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:19.359
and only Victoria Jackson.

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01:13:20.960 --> 01:13:21.800
Thank you, Bill.

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01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:24.279
Yep.

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01:13:24.439 --> 01:13:28.840
I'm dealing with pain now, like cancer is different for everyone,

1347
01:13:29.920 --> 01:13:33.640
and I figured I can endure anything if there's no

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01:13:33.800 --> 01:13:37.840
pain involved. Well, now I've got pain on my hips

1349
01:13:37.960 --> 01:13:41.119
and my pelvic bone is covered in cancer. But they're

1350
01:13:41.159 --> 01:13:44.680
not sure if the pain is coming from the cancer

1351
01:13:44.760 --> 01:13:50.399
on my pelvic or just arthright, is from millions of handstands. Right, Yeah,

1352
01:13:50.439 --> 01:13:54.560
So I have pain pillows and they make me tired,

1353
01:13:54.800 --> 01:13:59.279
and that's my new thing. Last year, they found a

1354
01:13:59.479 --> 01:14:03.960
tumor in my windpipe and the news all over the

1355
01:14:04.000 --> 01:14:08.239
world said Victoria Jackson two years to live. She's going

1356
01:14:08.279 --> 01:14:11.319
to suffocate to death, which is kind of what I

1357
01:14:11.359 --> 01:14:16.279
said on my Instagram but a little exaggerated. And they

1358
01:14:16.680 --> 01:14:20.159
radiated that tumor and now I can breathe. Great.

1359
01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:22.239
Well, thank you. Look at that.

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01:14:22.520 --> 01:14:28.079
The medical field is doing great with cancer. They have

1361
01:14:28.159 --> 01:14:31.800
a lot of ways they're helping people stay alive longer.

1362
01:14:32.039 --> 01:14:35.279
But the thing is, what's one day or two days,

1363
01:14:35.359 --> 01:14:36.760
fifteen years goes.

1364
01:14:36.600 --> 01:14:39.239
Like that exactly exactly.

1365
01:14:38.920 --> 01:14:40.399
To be ready to meet God.

1366
01:14:41.640 --> 01:14:44.039
Yeah, and I'm glad you said something about breathing. I

1367
01:14:44.039 --> 01:14:47.640
think that's one aspect of our humanity. The way God

1368
01:14:47.680 --> 01:14:52.119
has designed us is that we underestimate the power of

1369
01:14:52.199 --> 01:14:54.920
deep breathing and what that does, not only in relaxing you,

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01:14:55.000 --> 01:14:57.319
but in cleansing you and that sort of thing. And

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01:14:57.399 --> 01:15:00.279
I have made that part of my daily devotion. I'm

1372
01:15:00.279 --> 01:15:03.800
going through my devotion, I'm reminded, you know, to breathe deep,

1373
01:15:04.079 --> 01:15:07.279
you know, and to go through that exercise. It's it's

1374
01:15:07.359 --> 01:15:10.039
amazing what that does, you know, just a simple exercise

1375
01:15:10.079 --> 01:15:11.680
of breathing, you know, right.

1376
01:15:12.279 --> 01:15:17.560
Breathing is big. When I healed from the radiation, I

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01:15:17.600 --> 01:15:22.520
was like, breathe again. I thank God all that. Every

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01:15:22.600 --> 01:15:25.840
day I go Lord a million, thank you. There's so

1379
01:15:25.920 --> 01:15:29.079
many things to be grateful for, and breathing is one

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01:15:29.119 --> 01:15:29.439
of them.

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01:15:29.880 --> 01:15:34.960
Exactly well, as we are, you know, in your life,

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01:15:35.159 --> 01:15:39.439
as it is preparing and God has been preparing to

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01:15:39.560 --> 01:15:43.800
receive you, and as your journey continues here and looking

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01:15:43.840 --> 01:15:46.920
back at your legacy, as you said, you came to

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01:15:47.039 --> 01:15:50.199
the Lord at the age of six, the things that

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01:15:50.239 --> 01:15:55.640
you've experienced with God through your years here on earth.

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01:15:56.640 --> 01:15:59.159
What do you want to tell the readers in our

1388
01:15:59.239 --> 01:16:02.800
audience that would be lasting for them in terms of

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01:16:03.199 --> 01:16:05.119
you know what God has done for you.

1390
01:16:06.720 --> 01:16:10.000
Well, first of all, when I was doing my audio book,

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01:16:10.079 --> 01:16:12.520
I noticed that I left out a lot of things

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01:16:12.560 --> 01:16:16.920
I'm ashamed of, and I thought, well, I think I

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01:16:17.000 --> 01:16:20.960
should tell people that I'm a sinner, because why do

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01:16:21.000 --> 01:16:23.039
we need a savior if we don't have any sin?

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01:16:23.800 --> 01:16:26.199
And when we share the Gospel with people the good

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01:16:26.319 --> 01:16:29.079
news that Jesus died for our sins, rose from the

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01:16:29.159 --> 01:16:32.079
dead so we could have eternal life with him, we

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01:16:32.239 --> 01:16:35.960
got to start at the beginning. We have sin, yes,

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01:16:36.560 --> 01:16:39.439
Romans three twenty three. All have sin and come short

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01:16:39.479 --> 01:16:42.479
of the glory of God Romans six twenty three. For

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01:16:42.560 --> 01:16:45.079
the wages of sin is death, but the gift of

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01:16:45.119 --> 01:16:48.960
God is eternal life through Jesus Christ, our Lord. So

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01:16:49.760 --> 01:16:52.000
when I did my audio book, I threw in a

1404
01:16:52.039 --> 01:16:57.079
couple tidbits of things I'm ashamed of because I think,

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01:16:57.840 --> 01:17:01.239
you know, it's not a tell all, but but I

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01:17:01.319 --> 01:17:04.880
know what sin and shame is, and I'm so grateful

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01:17:04.920 --> 01:17:08.720
to be Jesus saved me from it. Right, what I

1408
01:17:08.720 --> 01:17:12.359
would tell people. I would tell people they should read

1409
01:17:12.359 --> 01:17:16.560
the Book of John and really read the Bible every day,

1410
01:17:17.399 --> 01:17:24.039
and it's bread for your soul and and and Jesus

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01:17:24.600 --> 01:17:30.680
and pray and he can help you through anything exactly.

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01:17:30.960 --> 01:17:33.560
You know. Remind me of what Billy Graham said before

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01:17:33.600 --> 01:17:37.560
his passing. And he was asked if he had any regrets,

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01:17:38.079 --> 01:17:40.119
and the only regret he said that he had was

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01:17:40.119 --> 01:17:44.720
that he didn't spend more time in the Word of God. Wow,

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01:17:44.960 --> 01:17:47.840
how was that cool? I love that. That blessed me

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01:17:47.880 --> 01:17:50.199
so much for him to say that. And of course,

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01:17:50.439 --> 01:17:53.720
what did Jesus say about you know when the apostle said,

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01:17:54.199 --> 01:17:57.279
you know about bread, you know about eating bread and

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01:17:57.359 --> 01:17:59.479
the things of this world, and he goes, that's not

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01:17:59.520 --> 01:18:01.439
what I live on. What I live on is every

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01:18:01.479 --> 01:18:02.960
word that comes from the mouth of God.

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01:18:03.039 --> 01:18:07.239
Right, yeah, look what my devotion today was April twenty

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01:18:07.279 --> 01:18:12.479
seventh in The Daily Light by Anne Graham Lott's It's

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01:18:12.600 --> 01:18:15.880
just Bible verses squished together. It's not her opinion of

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01:18:15.920 --> 01:18:19.520
what they say. Man who is born of woman is

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01:18:19.560 --> 01:18:22.600
a few days and full of trouble. He comes forth

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like a flower and fades away. He flees like a

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For more information on the show, you can go to

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Bill Martinez Live dot com. Bet At Worldweek is spotlighting

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the combination of a year long learning in schools around

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the country that partner with L Education, a national nonprofit

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working with K Through twelve educators to transform K through

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twelve schools and districts in the hubs of opportunity unity

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for all students. Throughout the week, students present projects and

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participate in service activities that demonstrate both academic growth and

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real world impact. Elementary, middle high school students take part

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in showcasing how they're learning connects to their community. Here

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with L Education is Jessica Wood to tell us more

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about this. Jessica, Welcome, Michelle, good to have you with us.

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Thank you so much.

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I'm happy to be here.

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Well, congratulations and all the great work you're doing there

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01:24:31.880 --> 01:24:36.159
in Massachusetts. And you know we're looking forward to talking

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01:24:36.159 --> 01:24:41.520
about these student led initiatives in Massachusetts, including benefit concerts

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01:24:41.520 --> 01:24:45.279
in Boston and community service projects in Springfield.

1540
01:24:45.359 --> 01:24:50.680
Right absolutely, you know this week Better World Week. It's

1541
01:24:50.760 --> 01:24:54.840
such a great moment to actually see what's possible in

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01:24:54.880 --> 01:24:59.039
public education. We have all these beautiful projects where students

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01:24:59.039 --> 01:25:02.359
aren't just learning content in their classrooms, they're using what

1544
01:25:02.439 --> 01:25:05.600
they learn to make a real difference out in their communities.

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Well, you know what you are answering here is what

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01:25:09.239 --> 01:25:11.680
a lot of students have asked, even in the days

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01:25:11.680 --> 01:25:13.359
when I was going to school, is going you know,

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01:25:13.399 --> 01:25:16.520
we'd asked the teacher, why are we learning this? How

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does this relate to real life? And here we are.

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You know, this is what l education is doing, which

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01:25:23.199 --> 01:25:26.520
is awesome, blending academics with real world learning.

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Right absolutely, you really hit the nail on the head.

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01:25:31.199 --> 01:25:35.119
So EL Education. We're a national nonprofit. We partner directly

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01:25:35.159 --> 01:25:37.840
with public schools and we want to make learning meaningful

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01:25:37.840 --> 01:25:41.319
for students. So we have students who are working on projects,

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01:25:41.359 --> 01:25:45.079
they're collaborating, they're applying what they learn to real challenges

1557
01:25:45.119 --> 01:25:48.600
and the goal is simple. We want to help empower

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young people to feel confident, capable, and ready to actually

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01:25:52.960 --> 01:25:54.159
make a difference in the world.

1560
01:25:55.119 --> 01:25:57.479
Well, Jessica, I'm glad you cleared up something because I

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01:25:57.640 --> 01:26:01.680
was saying l education. It's el education, So thank you

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01:26:01.760 --> 01:26:06.039
for correcting that. Let's talk about the kinds of projects

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01:26:06.039 --> 01:26:10.319
and service activities that students are showcasing during this week.

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01:26:11.439 --> 01:26:14.520
Absolutely, you know, we have such a broad range in

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01:26:14.600 --> 01:26:18.319
part because students are the drivers of this. So students

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01:26:18.359 --> 01:26:23.319
are the ones who are identifying what they're truly passionate about,

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01:26:23.680 --> 01:26:27.760
helping to design solutions, and then executing getting out there

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01:26:27.760 --> 01:26:31.119
in the community and doing the thing. So we have

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01:26:31.159 --> 01:26:36.600
students who are supporting food pantries, going to shelters, leading

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01:26:36.680 --> 01:26:41.199
environmental projects, and then also organizing big community events where

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01:26:41.279 --> 01:26:44.039
folks from the community, including their families, can come into

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01:26:44.079 --> 01:26:46.600
the school learn, you know, more about what they've been

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01:26:46.600 --> 01:26:51.199
studying and how they can get involved. In some places,

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01:26:51.239 --> 01:26:54.960
students are assembling care packages and working directly with local

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01:26:55.000 --> 01:26:57.439
partners to get them to the folks who need them

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01:26:57.439 --> 01:27:01.279
the most. And in other communities they're tacking food access

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01:27:01.399 --> 01:27:04.760
or environmental challenges. And the through line to all of

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01:27:04.800 --> 01:27:08.680
it is really simple. Students aren't waiting to be older.

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01:27:08.960 --> 01:27:12.800
They're stepping in now. Taking responsibility and seeing that they

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can really make a difference.

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01:27:14.680 --> 01:27:16.560
You know, Jessica, I love this idea and what you're

1582
01:27:16.600 --> 01:27:20.560
doing because what you're making available to these young kids

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is something that they naturally have an affinity for. And

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I imagine, you know, this must be really rewarding for

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01:27:28.960 --> 01:27:31.560
you to see how these kids gravitate that. You're not

1586
01:27:31.680 --> 01:27:35.239
putting them into some you know, set Petri dish of

1587
01:27:35.279 --> 01:27:37.560
some sort. You're just saying, hey, look at the world's

1588
01:27:37.560 --> 01:27:40.439
your oyster. Take the giftings and talents and the passions

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01:27:40.439 --> 01:27:42.359
you have and go out and do some good out

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01:27:42.359 --> 01:27:44.239
in the community. Huh.

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Yep.

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Absolutely. I taught middle school for a decade and most

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01:27:48.439 --> 01:27:51.159
people when you say that, they're like, oh, middle school,

1594
01:27:51.359 --> 01:27:54.920
how frightening. But you know what I learned is students,

1595
01:27:55.000 --> 01:27:58.279
especially at that age, have such a strong understanding of

1596
01:27:58.279 --> 01:28:02.720
what's right, what they think really needs to happen in

1597
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the world, and so empowering them with knowledge, you know,

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01:28:05.800 --> 01:28:09.479
empowering them with academics and skills and content, and then

1599
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really you know, helping them get that out into the world.

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You know, at the end of the day, they don't

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have to wait to make a difference. They can do

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it right now.

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You really are giving them a voice here, right.

1604
01:28:24.720 --> 01:28:28.239
Absolutely, and they totally deserve it because woo, I mean

1605
01:28:28.399 --> 01:28:33.600
what compelling just narrators they are, of their stories of

1606
01:28:33.640 --> 01:28:37.399
why things matter, you know, of like really getting people

1607
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excited and involved.

1608
01:28:39.439 --> 01:28:42.600
Yeah, well, you know, because they have a first line

1609
01:28:42.760 --> 01:28:48.640
experience and maybe they don't express it the way as

1610
01:28:48.680 --> 01:28:51.920
adults we think they should. But when you listen to

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01:28:51.960 --> 01:28:54.279
these kids, I mean they're right on point. I mean,

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01:28:55.920 --> 01:28:58.359
I tell you, if you want to be blessed, spend

1613
01:28:58.399 --> 01:29:01.039
some time with a young person and then just listen.

1614
01:29:01.560 --> 01:29:05.039
Don't judge what they're just listen to what their heart

1615
01:29:05.119 --> 01:29:06.399
is expressing.

1616
01:29:05.960 --> 01:29:08.600
Right, Jessica, Absolutely right.

1617
01:29:08.640 --> 01:29:11.079
And I think that Better World League really makes this

1618
01:29:11.159 --> 01:29:15.840
opportunity where folks can learn alongside young people and take

1619
01:29:15.920 --> 01:29:18.760
action alongside young people. So you mentioned some of the

1620
01:29:18.760 --> 01:29:23.079
things that were happening in Massachusetts, you know, so Conservatory

1621
01:29:23.159 --> 01:29:27.000
Lab charter school right in Boston, you have eighth graders

1622
01:29:27.039 --> 01:29:30.680
who are taking the lead on a full scale benefit concert.

1623
01:29:31.039 --> 01:29:34.159
They have done all the work from selecting the cause

1624
01:29:34.239 --> 01:29:38.319
that's going to be benefit benefited, to organizing all the

1625
01:29:38.359 --> 01:29:42.680
logistics and doing the performance. So every student contributes both

1626
01:29:42.720 --> 01:29:45.840
on stage and behind the scenes. It's just really remarkable.

1627
01:29:46.359 --> 01:29:48.720
Wow, that's great. You know, I love it because you know,

1628
01:29:48.760 --> 01:29:53.760
I've often said in my evaluation of opportunities like that

1629
01:29:54.199 --> 01:29:57.399
is that you know, kids all they want is a canvas.

1630
01:29:57.439 --> 01:29:59.920
Give them a canvas to paint on. And whether you

1631
01:30:00.039 --> 01:30:01.680
give them a canvass or not, they're going to find

1632
01:30:01.680 --> 01:30:05.279
a napkin, you know, while they're at London, or they

1633
01:30:05.439 --> 01:30:07.680
just can't help an express them. But what a great

1634
01:30:07.760 --> 01:30:11.479
opportunity to give them this kind of venue and this

1635
01:30:11.560 --> 01:30:14.840
opportunity for them to be able to express their God

1636
01:30:14.880 --> 01:30:16.079
given talents.

1637
01:30:16.680 --> 01:30:16.960
Yep.

1638
01:30:17.000 --> 01:30:19.399
And I think the other thing that's remarkable to is

1639
01:30:19.479 --> 01:30:23.960
Better World Week provides this opportunity for students to realize

1640
01:30:24.000 --> 01:30:27.000
that they're part of something bigger than just themselves. So

1641
01:30:27.039 --> 01:30:30.159
it's bigger than them. It's bigger than their classroom, than

1642
01:30:30.159 --> 01:30:33.199
their school, than their local community. They get to really

1643
01:30:33.279 --> 01:30:36.760
experience during this week the fact that there are young

1644
01:30:36.800 --> 01:30:39.840
people all over this country who are passionate and who

1645
01:30:39.920 --> 01:30:42.760
care and who want to create a better world. They

1646
01:30:42.760 --> 01:30:45.159
get to see what those young people are doing and

1647
01:30:45.399 --> 01:30:49.279
feel the power of being part of that movement themselves.

1648
01:30:49.640 --> 01:30:53.720
Well. Better World Weight is April twenty seventh through May

1649
01:30:53.920 --> 01:30:57.359
the first. Now is this the maiden flight or has

1650
01:30:57.439 --> 01:31:00.560
Better World Week been around for a long time and

1651
01:31:00.600 --> 01:31:03.840
we just haven't heard about it, Jessica, it has.

1652
01:31:03.760 --> 01:31:08.279
Been growing for over six years. It has really been

1653
01:31:08.439 --> 01:31:11.399
gaining momentum. And so we have some schools that have

1654
01:31:11.479 --> 01:31:14.239
participated every single year from the beginning, and we get

1655
01:31:14.279 --> 01:31:15.600
new schools every year.

1656
01:31:16.159 --> 01:31:18.560
Well, that's excellent. Jessica would, by the way, as a

1657
01:31:18.600 --> 01:31:22.880
director of Experiential Marketing at EAL Education, where she builds

1658
01:31:22.920 --> 01:31:27.159
relationships with students, educators, and school leaders across the country,

1659
01:31:27.159 --> 01:31:32.439
empowering them to share authentic stories of teaching, learning, and transformation.

1660
01:31:32.880 --> 01:31:37.399
What a great opportunity, you know for everyone, whether you

1661
01:31:37.439 --> 01:31:40.680
know you're a teacher, you're a student, you know you're

1662
01:31:40.720 --> 01:31:44.920
a parent, or you're even you know, nearby the orbit

1663
01:31:45.079 --> 01:31:47.800
of this kind of activity, right, Jessica.

1664
01:31:48.119 --> 01:31:51.479
Exactly, everyone benefits. I mean, as a parent, it can

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be really hard if you since that you're that you're

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a young person is just not engaged or just not

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feeling it. I think things like Better World Week EE

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Education more broadly, really do engage students in experiencing how

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powerful learning can be when it is for an authentic audience,

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when it's for a purpose.

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Well, Jessica, what is we wrap things up? One final

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question and also some help where they can go for

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01:32:23.640 --> 01:32:26.239
more information. But first of all, what stands out to

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you most about the student work or outcomes that you've

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seen through a Better World Week? And where can they

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go for more information to learn more?

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Absolutely, I think one of the things that I've noticed

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most over time is how this really sticks with young people.

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You know, I do work with young leaders all over

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01:32:45.239 --> 01:32:48.520
the country, and they can remember back and talk about

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01:32:48.520 --> 01:32:51.319
what it was like, you know, as a second grader,

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01:32:51.359 --> 01:32:53.880
So when they're seven eight years old, the work that

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they did and how that impacts them down the road.

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That learning to become a citizen scholar starts really young,

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and that you can build on that over time and

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you'd still remember it when you're, you know, heading into

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your senior year of high school, remembering back to that

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01:33:09.960 --> 01:33:15.079
second grade moment. I think that's remarkable. If people want

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to get involved, the easiest place to start is to

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follow hashtag eel education or hashtag Better World Week and

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01:33:21.119 --> 01:33:23.600
see what students are doing across the country like it,

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share it, help amplify it and then go to el

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education dot org backslash BWW two six to learn more,

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to read all the stories and close to home, just

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ask what's happening in your community, Go to your child's school,

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your local library, a senior center, and animal shelter. There

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are so many opportunities everywhere for young people to step

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in and contribute.

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She's the director of Experiential Marketing at EL Education. Jessica

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Wood has been our guest. Jessica, thank you so much,

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take care.

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one and only from movie guide, Doctor Ted, how are

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we doing well?

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You know, anytime I say that I'm talking to you,

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I'm doing well because I'm still alive to talk to you,

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which is a major breakthrough in reality.

1784
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But you really, you realize what it's going to be

1785
01:38:22.079 --> 01:38:23.640
like in heaven. I mean, we're gonna have fun.

1786
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Oh, I can't wait. I can't wait to see Lily again.

1787
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I wait to see my father, who I led to Christ.

1788
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I can't wait to see you know some of my friends, uh,

1789
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the ones that came to Christ.

1790
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So yes, I can't wait.

1791
01:38:37.640 --> 01:38:40.199
Well, and here it is, I'm so should I go

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now or well? You know, hey, on God's timing. You know,

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he wants us around for a particular reason, because we're

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drawing nigh every day. We're getting closer and closer you

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see happening overseas.

1796
01:38:54.000 --> 01:38:58.239
In that right, I'm not worried about the future. I'm

1797
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not worried about going to heaven. I'm not worried about

1798
01:39:00.720 --> 01:39:02.760
any of that because I love Jesus and he loves me,

1799
01:39:02.880 --> 01:39:08.359
and we have a mutual supporting relationship. And it says

1800
01:39:08.439 --> 01:39:11.680
Crocodile Dundee one said Jesus, And I mean buds.

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So we're buds.

1802
01:39:13.039 --> 01:39:16.600
But the thing that I don't like is pain, you know,

1803
01:39:16.760 --> 01:39:19.920
So today this morning is one of those days.

1804
01:39:19.560 --> 01:39:22.640
With a lot of pain. So that's you know, comes

1805
01:39:22.640 --> 01:39:23.359
from that's all.

1806
01:39:23.479 --> 01:39:26.159
That's only to remind you that come Heaven time, there's

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01:39:26.159 --> 01:39:29.840
no pain. Right. So but well, anyway, that that set aside.

1808
01:39:29.840 --> 01:39:32.479
I've told God there are two types of people, you know.

1809
01:39:32.560 --> 01:39:37.920
There's the like Balem's Balem's donkey.

1810
01:39:38.000 --> 01:39:39.239
Yes, right, right, exactly.

1811
01:39:39.319 --> 01:39:42.279
Yeah, there's a carrot people and the stick people. Remember

1812
01:39:42.279 --> 01:39:44.800
he kept hitting his donkey and then the doggy talked

1813
01:39:44.800 --> 01:39:46.920
to him. And I keep saying to God, I'm a

1814
01:39:46.960 --> 01:39:49.880
carrot person. I don't need the stick, you know, I

1815
01:39:49.920 --> 01:39:52.399
don't need the pain. Just take me when you want.

1816
01:39:52.560 --> 01:39:56.319
Let it be quiet and comfortable. I think he's got

1817
01:39:56.359 --> 01:39:58.800
other plans, and you know, I'm trying to figure out

1818
01:39:58.840 --> 01:40:01.319
whether I could communicate hate this this.

1819
01:40:03.319 --> 01:40:05.800
Look at. I think that's a worthy prayer, is that

1820
01:40:06.359 --> 01:40:10.880
we would have a peaceful, peaceful death. And I saw

1821
01:40:10.880 --> 01:40:13.079
that one of my devotionals. I thought, well, you know,

1822
01:40:13.119 --> 01:40:15.039
I've never thought of it that way, but I think

1823
01:40:15.079 --> 01:40:16.439
that's an excellent request.

1824
01:40:16.760 --> 01:40:20.000
Why not I do too? Lily did my wife Lily

1825
01:40:20.039 --> 01:40:22.920
did on May fifth. Anyway, let's go talk about movies.

1826
01:40:23.319 --> 01:40:26.600
Sheep Detective huh, well, let's start with that, you know,

1827
01:40:27.039 --> 01:40:30.439
Sheep Detective, and if you go to movieguide dot org

1828
01:40:30.479 --> 01:40:34.039
you'll see a lot about it. It's Hugh Jackman. Hugh

1829
01:40:34.199 --> 01:40:39.119
Jackman's father came to christ Billy Graham. Hugh Jackman quite

1830
01:40:39.119 --> 01:40:44.079
often chooses projects with Christian content. But you know, here's

1831
01:40:44.199 --> 01:40:47.159
a shepherd of the sheep who reads to the sheep.

1832
01:40:47.319 --> 01:40:52.199
I wonder where the shepherd of the sheep is that

1833
01:40:52.359 --> 01:40:53.720
throughout the Bible, from.

1834
01:40:53.640 --> 01:40:57.479
From David down to Jesus, and he lays down his

1835
01:40:57.600 --> 01:40:59.800
life for the sheep, and then the sheep have to

1836
01:40:59.800 --> 01:41:01.439
f find out who done it.

1837
01:41:01.800 --> 01:41:04.279
And it's it's an excellent movie.

1838
01:41:04.439 --> 01:41:07.039
You know, A couple of us have seen it and

1839
01:41:07.079 --> 01:41:10.279
we love it and I recommend it. It does have

1840
01:41:10.359 --> 01:41:14.600
some caution because it's a who done it and there

1841
01:41:14.680 --> 01:41:18.199
is some violence and some you know some so I'd

1842
01:41:18.239 --> 01:41:21.319
say little children probably don't want to see the sheep

1843
01:41:21.399 --> 01:41:26.279
getting you know, mauled, and the sheep shepherd getting in

1844
01:41:26.359 --> 01:41:29.640
trouble and he dies, but he's dying for his sheep,

1845
01:41:30.279 --> 01:41:32.920
which is a very there's a lot of biblical allegory

1846
01:41:32.960 --> 01:41:36.159
in it, and it's a very wonderful movie. And it's

1847
01:41:36.159 --> 01:41:40.720
a Hollywood movie, not one of these little Christian fly

1848
01:41:40.840 --> 01:41:41.720
by night movies.

1849
01:41:42.880 --> 01:41:45.640
So there's a lot of quality there and as you said,

1850
01:41:46.319 --> 01:41:48.760
you know, some strong Christian content. I think a great

1851
01:41:48.800 --> 01:41:50.800
movie to take the kids, the ones that can handle,

1852
01:41:51.119 --> 01:41:53.079
you know, like you said, some of the mild violence,

1853
01:41:53.119 --> 01:41:55.880
because that's going to open up some interesting discussions around

1854
01:41:55.880 --> 01:41:56.479
the dinner table.

1855
01:41:56.479 --> 01:41:59.119
I would think it's going to be wonderful and you

1856
01:41:59.159 --> 01:42:02.760
can talk about David being a shepherd and how important

1857
01:42:02.760 --> 01:42:05.880
a shepherd is and Jesus saying he's the good shepherd,

1858
01:42:05.960 --> 01:42:09.279
because Hugh Jackman in this movie is the good shepherd.

1859
01:42:09.399 --> 01:42:13.000
So yeah, and then you can go not in real life,

1860
01:42:13.119 --> 01:42:14.479
we know who's the good shepherd.

1861
01:42:14.640 --> 01:42:16.800
Amen. Amen, that's why you go to the Bible. Open

1862
01:42:16.880 --> 01:42:17.720
up Psalm twenty three.

1863
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Right, that's it, Yeah, there is.

1864
01:42:20.039 --> 01:42:22.359
It gives you everything you need to know, all right.

1865
01:42:22.960 --> 01:42:25.079
The other Animal Farm interesting.

1866
01:42:25.199 --> 01:42:27.800
Well, Animal Farm, you know, is one of my favorite

1867
01:42:27.800 --> 01:42:32.640
and classic books that you know, against communism, against Marxism,

1868
01:42:32.680 --> 01:42:39.039
against Stalinism. The movie has got the basic essentials of

1869
01:42:39.119 --> 01:42:43.319
Animal Farm. It's me it's done by a friend. Actually,

1870
01:42:43.399 --> 01:42:46.560
I met him years ago when he was starring Circus

1871
01:42:46.600 --> 01:42:50.399
in his name is Circus, when he was starring in

1872
01:42:50.680 --> 01:42:53.640
Lord of the Ring, says Golam, he told me he

1873
01:42:53.680 --> 01:42:57.760
was a Christian. There's some great spots, but they've also

1874
01:42:57.840 --> 01:43:01.279
added a little bit of the villain now is a

1875
01:43:01.279 --> 01:43:03.880
woman who's trying to make a conglomerate. So there's a

1876
01:43:03.880 --> 01:43:07.079
little spill over there. I'd say it's not a great

1877
01:43:07.159 --> 01:43:11.960
movie three stars, but certainly it shows you that revolution

1878
01:43:12.199 --> 01:43:16.520
is not the source of all the prob of all

1879
01:43:16.560 --> 01:43:18.760
the blessings that you can hear. Because there's always some

1880
01:43:19.000 --> 01:43:21.920
pig that wants to be the big pig in the town.

1881
01:43:22.319 --> 01:43:26.560
Napoleon is the pig here, and he becomes the Stalin character,

1882
01:43:26.760 --> 01:43:30.520
the Lenen character, the character that kills the rest of

1883
01:43:30.600 --> 01:43:33.479
the farm animals, who becomes the big pig in town,

1884
01:43:33.840 --> 01:43:37.640
and they sleep in the farmhouse and they become just

1885
01:43:37.720 --> 01:43:41.239
as bad as the farmer who was drunk. So it's

1886
01:43:41.319 --> 01:43:46.840
a story that's against Marxism, but it's for older audiences,

1887
01:43:47.079 --> 01:43:48.359
and it's only three stars.

1888
01:43:48.399 --> 01:43:49.359
It could have been better.

1889
01:43:50.960 --> 01:43:54.039
What would you have done? Just you know, inquiring what

1890
01:43:54.039 --> 01:43:55.600
would you have done to make it better.

1891
01:43:55.720 --> 01:43:58.159
Well, it's been done before, and I think the story

1892
01:43:58.600 --> 01:44:02.399
George or wells you know how this happened, right, The

1893
01:44:02.439 --> 01:44:06.079
book was written that he was in the Spanish Revolution,

1894
01:44:06.720 --> 01:44:11.920
and of course there were the hardcore Marxist being supported

1895
01:44:11.920 --> 01:44:14.279
by Russian and the Spanish, and then they were the

1896
01:44:14.399 --> 01:44:19.800
national socialists. One is international socialism, the other is national socialism.

1897
01:44:21.079 --> 01:44:25.159
The national socialism Franco was being supported by Hitler. But

1898
01:44:25.359 --> 01:44:29.840
the Marxists, as he found out in Spain, were becoming

1899
01:44:30.239 --> 01:44:35.199
very you know, they were anti everybody, including themselves. They

1900
01:44:35.199 --> 01:44:39.439
always devour themselves. How they survived the Russian Revolution you

1901
01:44:39.560 --> 01:44:43.159
read social eats it. So he wrote the book based

1902
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on his experience, and it's a great book and you

1903
01:44:46.319 --> 01:44:49.359
should certainly read the book. And there was a movie

1904
01:44:49.399 --> 01:44:53.039
before about it which was really great. So yes, it's

1905
01:44:53.079 --> 01:44:56.560
been made before, and now it's made again. I'm glad

1906
01:44:56.600 --> 01:45:00.000
that Andy did it and seem one of my friends,

1907
01:45:00.159 --> 01:45:01.720
so I can always say Andy.

1908
01:45:01.880 --> 01:45:04.960
Yeah, right exactly. Well, you know, it's amazing. You know,

1909
01:45:05.439 --> 01:45:07.880
I had to stop and think. You know when I

1910
01:45:07.960 --> 01:45:10.159
read the book. The first time I read it was

1911
01:45:10.479 --> 01:45:14.239
my freshman year in college, and I didn't realize the

1912
01:45:14.279 --> 01:45:17.439
book was, you know, originally written in nineteen forty five.

1913
01:45:18.159 --> 01:45:21.239
Yeah, well, that's because of all those problems of the

1914
01:45:21.359 --> 01:45:24.640
Spanish Revolution which ended up in World War Two, which

1915
01:45:24.720 --> 01:45:27.439
ended up many years later when I was a left

1916
01:45:27.479 --> 01:45:31.119
wing called me Pinko Rat. Two of Franco's black cats

1917
01:45:31.399 --> 01:45:34.039
threw me in prison, and I loved it because I

1918
01:45:34.119 --> 01:45:36.680
was with some revolutionaries at the bottom of the worst

1919
01:45:36.680 --> 01:45:41.000
prison in Pamplona, with chains on the wall and everything else.

1920
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It was just fun and exciting.

1921
01:45:43.079 --> 01:45:46.439
But then I read the book after my communist period,

1922
01:45:46.520 --> 01:45:52.079
and it illustrates what's wrong with Marxism and democratic socialism

1923
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and all of that stuff.

1924
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Which if you don't know what's wrong with it, read

1925
01:45:55.399 --> 01:45:56.119
the book.

1926
01:45:56.239 --> 01:45:59.560
Right exactly, or it'll be coming to a theater near you,

1927
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maybe a neighborhood. Maybe it's already there already, yeah exactly.

1928
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Well let me you know, I think it'd be interesting.

1929
01:46:08.239 --> 01:46:10.520
And just a thought is that, you know, because the

1930
01:46:10.560 --> 01:46:12.560
book and the movies have been around for so long,

1931
01:46:13.000 --> 01:46:18.119
is that how each generation say, over the last two

1932
01:46:18.239 --> 01:46:21.159
three generations, how they interpreted Animal Farm?

1933
01:46:21.560 --> 01:46:24.920
Well, I think with the movie, I don't want to

1934
01:46:25.520 --> 01:46:28.840
God says throughout the Bible not to engage in presumptuous sin.

1935
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And since I have eighteen grandchildren, you can't presume why

1936
01:46:33.960 --> 01:46:36.319
Andy Sergis or anybody else does what they do.

1937
01:46:36.520 --> 01:46:38.159
You just can't do it. And it's going to be

1938
01:46:38.199 --> 01:46:39.079
angel et cetera.

1939
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And you've got a great movie coming out called Cheap Detective,

1940
01:46:42.600 --> 01:46:45.159
which is the other side of the coin. So you

1941
01:46:45.239 --> 01:46:48.840
can't predict why. But I think that what happens a

1942
01:46:49.000 --> 01:46:52.039
little bit. If you read the review on moviegod dot org.

1943
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That's moviegod dot org.

1944
01:46:53.920 --> 01:46:56.359
You have to go to the right now to read

1945
01:46:56.399 --> 01:46:58.800
the review. If you read the review.

1946
01:46:58.520 --> 01:47:03.039
You realize that the culture in some ways has shaped

1947
01:47:03.079 --> 01:47:06.640
the movie because there's a little bit of woke content

1948
01:47:06.800 --> 01:47:10.560
and having the bad conglomerate now that's it's still the

1949
01:47:10.640 --> 01:47:14.760
bad Marxist the pigs that are taking over, and some

1950
01:47:14.920 --> 01:47:18.439
animals are better than other animals, and all of those

1951
01:47:18.479 --> 01:47:21.880
famous lines are in there, but not the famous speeches.

1952
01:47:22.239 --> 01:47:26.600
So I think that probably the pressure of contemporary society

1953
01:47:26.960 --> 01:47:30.760
influenced it to a little bit. And that always happens.

1954
01:47:32.199 --> 01:47:34.760
You know, if they make nineteen eighty four over again,

1955
01:47:35.119 --> 01:47:37.439
I guess they did, you're going to get the same

1956
01:47:37.720 --> 01:47:43.119
pressure to somehow, you know, make it more contemporary, and

1957
01:47:43.159 --> 01:47:46.600
making it more contemporary doesn't always make the movie work.

1958
01:47:47.279 --> 01:47:51.039
Right exactly well, Doctor Ted behar CEO of Movie Guide

1959
01:47:51.039 --> 01:47:53.760
and Chairman of the Christian Film and TV Commission, is

1960
01:47:53.800 --> 01:47:58.159
always appreciate the inside check it out movieguide dot org.

1961
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Thank you, doctor.

1962
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And I'm a friend of Ben, which is the only

1963
01:48:01.560 --> 01:48:02.920
claim to fame that I have.

1964
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And he might see me next week, but he's going

1965
01:48:06.399 --> 01:48:07.800
to be a very important person.

1966
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I better see you next week. I'm going to talk

1967
01:48:10.720 --> 01:48:13.079
to Maggie. All right, good, all right, take care of

1968
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my friend. All right, God bloe block.

1969
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1970
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manuscript ready and just need to find the right publisher.

1971
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