Feb. 17, 2026
The Bill Martinez Show 02 17 26
The Bill Martinez Show 02 17 26
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Yeah, Okay, let's do it.
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Ill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture,
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our values, our politics, and our future.
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And now Bill Martinez, it's.
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Six minutes after the top of the hour. Glad you
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could join us. I'm Bill Martinez and we've got back
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with us the recently retired US Air Force General national
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security expert. He was the Assistant Deputy Undersecretary of the
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Air Force and international affairs expert as well. General John
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Tacker Tigert is with us. Hey, John, good to have
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you with us. I'm glad we could have you back.
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Bill.
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It has been way too long and I'm thrilled to
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be with you today.
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Well, a lot to catch up on, of course, the
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big focus right now is Iran. Let's break it down.
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I mean, we could probably spend days breaking that down
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because of what's going on. I Mean, what I've been saying, General,
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is that on the straits of Iran right now, it's
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like they're experiencing their Patrick Henry moment. You know, give
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me liberty or give me death. I mean, the thousands
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of people that are dying at the hands of the regime,
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the Ayatola and the IRGC is incomprehensible.
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Bill, You're right, and I think we're striking a milestone
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in those protests next week because the primary onslaught against
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those protesters happened on the seventh and the eighth of January,
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and there's a forty day morning period that ends next week,
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and I think all of that surge of energy that's
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died down for the last couple of weeks is going
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to bubble back up. And I really hope that we
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have both the capability and the will to support those
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protesters and see that Patrick Henry moment come to Fruition
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and Iran.
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Well, what's your assessment with navy ships moving into the region?
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Bill, We have had now almost a month since the
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President said that help is on the way to reposture
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our forces in the Middle East, and I firmly believe
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that now we have the offensive capability that we need,
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and we've rayed our defensive capability alongside of our allies
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and partners, so that we are now fully ready in
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a way that we were not when those protests were
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surging back in the beginning of January. And I now think,
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based on the meeting with the President and Prime Minster
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Netanyahu today that they're not just talking strategy, but they're
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talking operational details about how we're going to work together
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to finally strike an end to Iran.
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You know, general, many Americans are bewildered because they said,
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we thought we really neutered Iran with what we did
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with the B two's and taking out their nuclear ambitions.
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But to hear the Ayatola and the spokespeople of irantag,
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of course you'd expect them to do so they're beating
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their chests and act like there's still all that in
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a bag of chips.
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You're right, and I don't think they have anything more
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than words to make themselves feel strong, and they're just
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hoping to ter the United States from taking actions that
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may be decisive against the regime. They don't have a
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nuclear program anymore, that was taken care of by seven
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B twos in June turned to rubble a half a
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trillion dollars of Iranian investment. But they still do have
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about a thousand ballistic missiles that they could strike against
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targets around the Middle East, and they do have a
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waning proxy network that could do harm to people in
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the Middle East as well. But they're not very strong
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and they don't have air defenses, which means they're basically
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a target gallery if we make the decision to attack,
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and I hope that we will and support of the
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protesters next week.
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Well, speaking of their proxies, they seem to be noticeably quiet.
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Either they're gearing up for something or they're quiet because
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they don't have the support because Iran's run out of money, haven't.
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They they have?
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And I think all of those proxies Hamas has Belah,
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the who thys the Shia militia groups in Iraq, I
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think what they saw in June during the twelve day
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war totally destroyed their trust and confidence and their sponsor
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in Iran. Iran doesn't have the money to support them,
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but they don't have what is a Middle Eastern term,
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the wasta, or the strength to support them, and so
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I think they're on their own and they're not going
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to make any move to support Iran because they didn't
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back in June, and now Iran is noticeably weaker than
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they were even seven months ago.
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You know, general, it seems like we're dealing with a
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basic common sense principle here. When law in order comes
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to town, the criminals go quiet. You know, you look
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at what happened in New York when you had six
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hundred plane closed. Officers go in New York, all of
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a sudden the guns went back into the apartments and
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in the Chester drawers. You take the plane close, you know,
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officers off of the fill to play, and all of
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a sudden they come out and they're shooting up the city. Right.
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I mean, it just seems to be a common sensical
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kind of experience here, Am I wrong?
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No, you're And that word that we use a lot
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de terrence or stopping your adversary from doing the things
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you don't want them to do. It applies in international affairs,
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it applies in police work, and it applies as being
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a parent that you deter when your adversary or your
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opponent believes you have both strength of capability to stop
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them and strength of will to stop them. And I
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believe Iran and a lot of others see our strength
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of capability and will, and I no doubt believe that
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they are nervous about what may come in the near
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future against them.
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Well, I mean time it again. I mean, this is
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the difference a president and a proactive president can make
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on the international scene. And what Donald Trump's been able
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to affect here in a little over a year. It's
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just been absolutely incredible. What we got eight countries that
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were at war and now at peace. The Abraham Accords
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could be revived again if it run, or I should
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even say if I think it's a matter of when Iran,
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you know, converts, I mean, because they've got an organic
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movement John that are you know their you know, their
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mantra is they want to advance a non nuclear, secular
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and democratic republic in Iran. Who doesn't want that?
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No, we certainly do, and we the people in the
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Middle East and the people of Iran have faced the
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Iatola and their regime for the last forty seven years
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and it has ruined Iran. That is a country that
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should be a member of the G twenty and is
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now in shambles. And you're right about President Trump. But
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here's something that's important, Bill, that he made those commitments
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to the protesters now about five weeks ago, and his
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the president's credibility is on the line, and if he
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doesn't follow through, then all of those things that he's
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done in the last year could fall apart without credibility,
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which is another reason why I firmly believe that he's
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going to take decisive action in the next week or so.
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Right, I would agree with you and your assessment here,
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because he doesn't believe in an Obama red line, does he?
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No?
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I mean if you don't, if you don't enforce it,
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then there is none and there will never be one
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in the future. Your credibility is always on the line
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in international affairs, and you've got to back up your word.
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And right now the President needs to back up his word.
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And I think this is part of the challenge in
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the West that we don't understand the psychology of the
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Middle East. You know, they know force, that's what they've
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been raced with. Right, they're compelled to do things. They
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don't necessarily do things in their best interest, even though
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Donald Trump is offering them, you know, the carrots and
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sticks option and saying, hey, could you imagine a peaceful
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country here that's not warring and is utilizing their citizens
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for good and not for evil.
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You're right, and rogue regimes respect one thing and that
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is strength, strength of capability. And will I was the
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nation senior defense official to a rock during the changeover
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from the Biden Sorry to the Trump to the Biden administration.
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Trump won to Biden and the Iranian aligned groups there
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were salivating at the idea of American weakness under Biden.
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They saw it for.
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Those four years.
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But they do respect strength, and we need to continue
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to display and demonstrate in tangible ways strength to keep
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them at day, but also all of those other regime
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rogue and malign regimes that could do us harm by
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showing them consistent strength of the United States of America
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in general.
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You saw this quite clearly that if there was any
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you know, chink in our armor, and if we projected
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any kind of weakness whatsoever, the Taliban was going to
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take full advantage and look at the cost.
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Now, you are right, and they are looking to exploit
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any little sliver of weakness. It's almost like somebody that
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scales a rock face. All they need is a little
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undulation or a little crack and they can own that
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mountain or own that sheer face. And that's the way
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advisaries look is if they see a little crack or
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a little undulation or a little demonstration of weakness, then
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they're going to take advantage and own us.
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