April 2, 2026

The Bill Martinez Hour Show 04 02 26

The Bill Martinez Hour Show 04 02 26
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The Bill Martinez Hour Show 04 02 26
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, okay, let's do an ill.

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Mark Tinas Live a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinas.

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Well, good morning America. Six minutes after the top, they

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are right now. We got Mike O'Neil from Landmark Legal. Hey, Mike,

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got you doing.

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I'm good, Bill, Good to be with you.

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Quite a day. Birthright citizenship. Let's talk about it.

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Yeah, sure.

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Oral arguments were health today and Trump versus Barbara the

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birthright citizenship case, and there's good news, bad news, mixed bag, obviously.

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First of all, let's start with the good news. The

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solicitor general. Let's let's frame the issue. First of all,

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the issue is whether the Fourteenth Amendment Section one of

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the fourteenth Amendment conveys automatic birthright citizenship regardless of the

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status of the parent. So, in other words, if you're

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an illegal immigrant and you come here and you have

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a child, that child has conveyed automatic US citizenship. So

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that was the issue that was squarely before the court.

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Let's start with the good news, the good news. First

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of all, let's talk about the I'm not going to

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say performance, but the arguments, the advocacy of the Solicitor

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General was top notch. He was able to really articulate

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a coherent version and coherent interpretation of what the terms

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of the fourteenth Amendment mean. And I think he kind

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of engaged in a little bit of jiu jitsu.

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Here.

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You hear about a lot about a specific case if

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you listen to oral arguments, and you've probably heard this

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in media reports. This case that was on point, supposedly

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on point called Wang Kim arc. This was the case

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that involved Chinese immigrants to the United States, not eighteen

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ninety eight, whether their child they were not citizens, because

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of course they were Chinese immigrants and there was a

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lot of laws on the books which didn't provide naturalization

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process for Chinese. But they were here legally, which is

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important to understand. And what's even more important to understand,

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which was kind of sussed out today during oral arguments,

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is they had established a domicile in the United States

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of America, and the question was legally here established a domicile,

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whether their offspring was subject to the jurisdiction thereof they're

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babies born in America and therefore American citizens. And I

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think the Solicitor General clearly established that point. He kind

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of used some jiu jitsu here by saying one can

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mark rather than working against us, the Trump administration, in fact,

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can be interpreted in a manner which is consistent with

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the executive order. In other words, subject to the jurisdiction

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thereof means something more than mere territorial presence in the

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United States. So that was good news, some good news.

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He was able to formulate that. Another piece of good

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news was the fact that the Court was squarely focused

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on the constitutional issue here, right, that's good. There's another

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side to it, and I'll get to it in a second.

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The good news is the court had to really get

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to the constitutional issue, and there was some skepticism about

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whether it was going to do that and whether it

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was going to be solely focused on that. But the

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overwhelming majority of the oral arguments today focused on what

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is the interpretation of the of these constitutional amendments, so

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it's constitutional analysis. There was the possibility, and I have

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to talking about this in other areas, that the Court

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was going to get hung up on the fact that

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there was a law passed in nineteen forty and then

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nineteen fifty two and just rely on analysis of the

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law and say, well, the executive order violates the law,

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we're not going to get to a constitutional analysis. In

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other words, utilize what is known as the constitutional avoidance canon.

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That wasn't president at all the day. I didn't hear

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any kind of I was listening for that didn't hear it.

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So it seems like the court was squarely focused on

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the interpretation of the fourteenth Amendment. So that's more good news.

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Now let's talk about some things that work probably against

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the administration. Is clearly you saw that some of these

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justices that are necessary to formulate a five justice majority

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are not solely in favor of the executive order. I

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think there was a question that's getting a lot of

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play out there is the opening question from the Chief Justice,

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and he was talking about exceptions that were carved out

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to the automatic birthright citizenship. This was Native America and

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Children's of diplomats, And his first question is this listeners

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general right off the bat was expressing skepticism about how

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you could take those exceptions and say that there's a

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greater limitation on that term subject to the jurisdiction. So

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he said, how can we take these quirky and I'm

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using the word quirky because he wore quirky exceptions and

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somehow use that to exclude an entire class of people,

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in other words, people who come here and have babies

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and are born here. So there was a little bit

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of skepticism on the part of the Chief Justice, some

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more skepticism on the part of Justice Kavanaugh where he

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was talking about the role of Congress here, and then

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some skepticism from ACB. So whether the majority is there,

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the five justice majority is there, clearly. Kagan, Sodomaiora, and

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Jackson were in the in the in the camp of

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this is this is an improper executive order pro you know,

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pro birthright citizenship in other words, so you know, you

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have to cobble together a five justice minority and we'll see,

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we'll see where it comes up. But the arguments went

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about as well as to be expected. For the Solicitor

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General and for the Trump administration today.

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Well on its merit. I mean here, you've got a

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cottage industry that has evolved out of the fourteenth Amendment.

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I mean the number of people who have taken advantage

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of this, which European countries, you know, you look what

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they did with it. You know that they they basically said,

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and we're not going to we're not going to offer

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this anymore because they found it to be deleterious and

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not serving the best interest. I mean, the problem I've

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had from day one with this is that by virtue

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of this, the way they you know, kind of it's

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almost like a pretzel logic to me from my pers

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I'm not an attorney, but the way they've kind of

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twisted this around, it's like it's so divisive that you

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end up dividing a family. You don't unite a family

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when you say, hey, you're not a citizen, but your

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kid is. To me, that's GOOFY can't I can't square

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that up?

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Mike.

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Yeah, And all the practical effects that that happens that

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results from that derives from that. And the court touched

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on that a little bit. I would have liked them

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to have touched on a little bit more. There was

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a question, there was a practical example. A lot a

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lot of the discussion focus on this word domicile, right

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if you so domicile so and you could take that

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This is kind of what I'm talking about. From Wane

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k Mark. Wan kim Mark said, you know that they

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the Chinese individuals and Yuan Kmark the parents were domicile.

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We're legally admitted and we're domicile domicilliaries of the United States.

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So that means subject to the jurisdiction thereof jurisdiction encompasses domicile.

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And of course a lot of these what you're saying,

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Bill is if you're here illegally, you can't establish a

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domicile right, you're not. You're not a domicilliary of the

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United States. You have an allegiance to another foreign country,

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and you're not domicile here. And so there was a

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lot of there was a lot of HARKing back, and

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that I think works in favor of the Trump the

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bringing back to the fact that Wan k Mark, this

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this position that the left is so relying on really

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is focus on you know, legal legality and domici and

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domicile and if you want to use those two conditions

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for subject to the jurisdiction thereof Okay, let's go with that.

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That's fine, we can do that. We can say domicile

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and and and here and present in the country legally.

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So there was again that was kind of crap. I

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think that was really highly uh you know, a good

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move from the from the from the point of view

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for the administration.

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Let me ask you this real quick, speaking of subject

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to the jurisdiction thereof is there some allegiance consideration here?

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Yeah?

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Absolutely, and that that that was there was a lot

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of discussion of that an an allegiance to to it,

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and there was so Alito was funny when he asked

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a funny question. He said, well, what if you are

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born of the child, you know, Iranians or Chinese come

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into the country, have a baby, and those children are

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subject to military service, mandatory military service in China or

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Iran obviously identified adversaries of the United States. How can

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you say that they have any allegiance to the United

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States when they're complicated to go serve in a foreign

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army which could which is right now in adversary of

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the United States and a potential adversary of the United States.

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And that really you know that that was again another

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one of those how do you jibe this? This The

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clear way to understand it, to reconcile this point which

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you're getting at, is to simply say, okay, well they

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don't you know, subject to the juris what is the

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best interpretation of subject to the jurisdiction they're in. And

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that means excluding those people who might have divided allegiance

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or the children who by law have a divided allegiance

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because by law their children are alligated in the forum.

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Law of course, exactly.

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Yeah. On the other side of that is a couple

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of things. Is Roberts, as I say, Roberts kind of

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said this famous line you might be reading about in

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a couple of days, all right, later this afternoon, reading

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about this case, Roberts said, you know, circumstances changed, but

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the Constitution remains the same. Is he going to be

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swayed by these by these practical arguments? That's that's something there.

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I would not put Roberts in the in the camp

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of Trump, of the of the of the of pro

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executive order. I would put him in the camp of

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pro birthright citizenships. So you're gonna have to see, you

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have to run the table with a gorstch Alita or

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a Gorsitch, ACB and Cavanaugh there, and again that's a

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that's a tough road right now.

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I would say, well, let's go, let's go to break.

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We'll talk about it more on the other side more

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from Mike O'Neil after this stay with us.

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Hey, welcome back Bill Martinez here with Mike O'Neil from

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Lndmark Legal, and we're talking birthright citizenship and the recent

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hearing in the Supreme Court. And you know what, for

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the first time ever you had a president in attendance.

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That's impressive. I think that I don't think it really

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changed anything. I don't think the dynamics changed. Certainly, I

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think it brings there is one one good takeaway from this,

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and I'm seeing other commentators make this com make this point.

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And if you see the numbers actually political the numbers.

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If you look at people two years ago saying birthright citizenship,

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it was a significant majority of the American people. That

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has shifted right now. So you see a majority of

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the American people who think, no, the fourteenth Amendment doesn't,

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you know, you shouldn't have automatic birthright citizenship. So I

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think what you know, there's a lot of play with

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the presidents. Obviously, it's him recognizing the importance of this,

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this this this, this case. The national implications here. Clearly

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this is one of the issues he ran on and

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so it's important to him. Also, I think it's also

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to bring some political play into this. I don't necessarily

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think the Justices are going to be swayed by that,

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but I think from a national perspective, it's something to

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consider and it shows the the the the political play here. Now.

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I think it was good. He has every right to

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be there. You know, he's a party in the case.

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I think I read somewhere that there's an actual chair

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for the president reserved. So and you know, President Trump

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likes to do unprecedented things, so here's doing something that's unprecedented.

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And again, there was no I don't even think.

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I don't.

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I don't even think that the court acknowledged his presence.

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And I didn't. I wouldn't think they would. You know,

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keep in mind, the Justices sit in the front row

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during the President's State of the Union address, so you know,

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two way Street.

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Right, exactly. No, and I would I would not expect

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the Justices to be enamored or affected by the President

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of the United States. I mean, they have a job

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to do. He's coming to their place of work, and

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just like when they come to his place of work,

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and you know, and you respect the position, and I

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you know, and I wouldn't expect them to, you know,

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cow Tower in any way. I mean, I'd be disappointed

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if that was the case, because, like you and I

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have talked about how long we need this Supreme Court

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to be consistent to call balls and strikes, and this

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is a critical issue. This is one of those issues

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that's been out there, especially in light of you know,

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twenty million additional illegal immigrants coming into our country number one,

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number two. As I mentioned earlier, this has become a

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cottage industry. I mean the millions of people and babies.

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I mean, you've got situations where you got a Chinese guy,

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you know, he's he's pro creating what he's had over

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one hundred kids or something, and this is becoming industry.

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I mean, who would have thought, Mike, Yeah, that is.

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The wish I don't Unfortunately, when you're talking about a

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constitutional interpretation here, and that's what we're dealing with, right well,

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I mean it's unfortunately in this case, but it's fortunate

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in a lot of other cases. Is constitutional analysis has

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a defined, you know, area parameters here, and you know,

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taking into account practical effects of it is sometimes you know,

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is subservient to it. So in a lot of ways

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that works for us. Originalists got a constitutional originalists and

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stuff like that in those cases, but sometimes it works

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against us, right, But I think these are all good

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practical arguments. I think one of the best practical arguments

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is a national security argument that you're positing, right, known

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adversaries are coming here and exploiting this loophole to jeopardize

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the security of our country. Clearly, that's something that should

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be considered. The extent to which whether that those arguments

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sway the justices, I don't think it's going to have

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a big impact. One other important issue I wanted to make.

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What issue I want to make about the constitutionality question. I

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see it being raised in other forms, And this is

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really good to harp on is and it's so funny.

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I've been so focused on the constitutional avoidance avenue. Right,

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The question is the court avoiding it just to rule

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on the statute, ruling on the statue, not getting into

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the meat of the fourteenth Amendment. There is a caller,

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there is another side to that point. If they do

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rule them ruling on the fourteenth Amendment, the meaning of

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the fourteenth Amendment essentially takes Congress out of the decision

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making process.

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Exactly.

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If the Court decides that the Fourteenth Amendment encompasses birthright citizenship. Right,

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then the fourteenth Amendment compasses birthright citizenship. That's that's a

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constitutional right acknowledged in the fourteenth Amendment. That means Congress

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can't pass a law banning birthright citizenship. So that's actually

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that's a hot and that highlights the stakes with which

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we're worth setting here. The only way to get rid

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of So that's why this is one of these all

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or nothing propositions here. If and that's the importance of

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this case, if the Court concludes that there is a

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right to birthright citizenship, then the only way you can

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overrule that is via constitutional amendment. So Congress, So in

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some regards you could have said, okay, wait a minute,

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if congres, if it's just limited to the congressional analysis,

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then Congress can can pass They passed alaw in nineteen

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fifty two, they can pass a law in twenty and

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twenty six. We know Congress doesn't do that. But my

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point is is the stakes are very high here, right,

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and so the court could possibly say, I don't know

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if if so, this is kind of reversing my thinking

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on that, but you see how complicated things are.

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But I do think, well, could the Court just say

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throw it back to Congress, say look at we're not

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you know, we're going to make you know, some sort

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of uh, peripheral judgment or decision on this, but this

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needs to now I think, I.

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Don't know, I don't I think that they're gonna I

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think that the issues and this was this is what

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I let off with with the good news is because

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you have to get to the constitutional question or otherwise

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these laws will be will be the law that's in

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existence will presumably override the executive order. So you want

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to get the constitutional uh issue here. And I think

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from oral arguments, ninety five percent of oral arguments was

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focused squarely on the meaning of this term right. And

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they were they were they were doing all of it.

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They were engaged. They were looking at, you know, the text,

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the history, the tradition, wan kim mark, which was precedent,

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whether it's super precedent. They get into an extremely detailed

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analysis of what wan kim mark really applies, how it applies.

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They got into noted exceptions that and this, this is

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this is something that works in favor of the administration.

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I talked about it a little bit with what John

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Roberts had said. Chief Justice had said, you know, the

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ratifiers of the fourteenth Amendment recognized limitations on it. You know,

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they never intended it to be open ended. And this

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is what the ACLU advocate had to contend with. This

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was working against her. In other words, is they understood

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that there are limits. The Fourteenth Amendments citizenship clause isn't

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all encompassing. There are limitations here. And you could say, okay,

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well there are limitations back then, and that means the

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limitations then this is a limitation. So in other words,

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the president's executive order is a limitation in line with

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the other limitations, in other words, exempting Native Americans, children

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of diplomats. It wasn't something that was ever intended to

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be anybody and all encompassing. So and again then we

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get into the domicile allegiance and on all of.

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That, did they did they talk much about you know,

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why the fourteenth Amendment came about there was to protect

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the children of black slaves.

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Yeah, absolutely, that was Justice Thomas got it. That was

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one of his first questions, right, was, was hey, did

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they ever mention immigration? Was it ever intended to be

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to deal with immigration? Or was it intended rather to

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address laws that the dread Scott decision, for example, laws

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that were impossible future laws enacted by states, right that

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states could could work in the you know, think about

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post reconstruction era Southern states. It wouldn't be beyond the

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pale to think that a Southern state would try to

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de citizenize, you know, remove any rights of citizens front

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to their African American residents and citizens. So yeah, there

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was some discussion, of course, that this was intended, and

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of course the attorney are the Solicitor General led with

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that that this was intended to apply to the slaves

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and the children of slaves and descendants of slaves, to

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ensure that there was never an effort to take away

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those those rights of citizenship.

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How bad would it be if if Scotis slaps down

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the executive order?

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How bad would it be? Well, I mean I don't think, well,

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it wouldn't be any worse than it is right now,

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right because that's what we have right now. So I

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mean it would be it would be unfortunate. It would

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be very unfortunate because you see again you see President

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Trump trying to aggressively address an identified and serious problem

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that our country is facing right, and so his efforts

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would be frustrated by the court or not by I mean, yeah,

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bye bye. I argument is frustrated. His arguments are his

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efforts are frustrated by the fourteen Amendment, but the court's interpretation,

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I mean, it would be a status quo. But again,

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I think that you do other things. You know, we

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we there are other avenues, right, I mean, how much

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how I would I would I would say, I'm sure

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birth birth, birth citizenry from illegal immigrants is plummeted precipitously

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from uh the from the advent of the Trump administration,

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because illegals are coming into the country. So you can't

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cross the border in Mexican you know, for in Arizona

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or Texas come in here and give birth because the

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border is closed. So I think that just means that

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if if there's a bad decision, if a decision goes

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contrary to the president, that just means you have to

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work that much harder than these other areas. Now, again,

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the problem here is I don't think you couldn't have

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a law that would close down birth tourism. Now, now,

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somebody else said that on one of the forums, is

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you know, there might have been a higher degree that

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this would be successful if the executive order had only

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applied to a narrower segment, in other words, outline birth

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tourism right, saying that these guys, these Chinese folks who

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come over here and have kids, outlining that, well, that's

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a little bit more narrow So you know, probably status quo,

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but you know it just means you have to work

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that much harder in other areas well.

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Mike O'Neil. As always, we appreciate your perspective here and

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to be continued and you know we'll stay on top,

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but so appreciate you coming on. Mike O'Neil from Landmark Legal.

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Thank you, Mike.

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Take care, take care, Bill, I have a great day.

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with us, and we've got Richard Battle back with us.

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It's been a minute or two since we've last talked,

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but great to have you back. Richard. How are you happy? Easter?

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To you the Easter.

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It's always my pleasure. Thanks for having us back with

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you again.

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Bill Well. According to biblical and theological perspectives, a nation

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that forgets God descends into moral chaos, corruption, and confusion.

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It is described as undergoing spiritual decline, where God removes

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his protection, allowing that nation to face consequences like societal decay,

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abandonment of truth, and ultimate self destruction. A quick analysis

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of that paragraph and the condition of America, it would

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seem that it's very appropriate.

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Well, I think so, And for those of us that

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have been around for a few years, I think we've

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seen it in our lifetime. And some people attribute it

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starting after the Kennedy assassination. Some people attribute it starting

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after Martin Luther King assassination or Vietnam. But we see

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a degradation of the art in our buildings and our

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art and our culture. We see that in the way

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humility and sportsmanship's gone, and we see people self and

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grandizement and self promotion all the time. So many pieces

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of our society we've drifted away, as one of the

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churches in Revelation was told, we've drifted away from God,

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and we're seeing those consequences.

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Well, the moral and cultural chaos. I believe and agree

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with you as we talked before. I think foundationally we've

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abandoned truth. You know, we wanted to come up with

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our own idea of truth so we could we could

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construct a world according to our own eyes.

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Yes, there's no your truth or my truth.

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There's only the truth.

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But anytime we see people defining their own truth, they're

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doing it to rationalize or justify their behavior exactly. And

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so that is, if there is no truth, then none

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of our past history, the Constitution, the Bible, none of

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the history we can learn from. If there is absolute

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truth and we we can rely on it and we

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can learn from.

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It and benefit us and those that come.

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Behind us, Well, the truth became subjective, go all the

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way back to the garden. As soon as Eve partook

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of the forbidden fruit. You know, then that created a

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whole new worldview up until then they commune, God said

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my creation is very good, and suddenly it fell, and

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since then we fragmented, and we either are being truthful

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or we're buying into a lie. It really is a

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binary choice when it all comes down to it. Yes,

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it's manifested in different kind of ideas and religious ideas

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and that, but that's really the bottom line, isn't it, Richard.

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Well, Yes, And we look right before the body of

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the forbidden Fruit, and we see the serpent twisting scripture

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and giving a partial reading of God's word if you will,

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to sucker even too, taking the bite of the fruit.

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And we see that today in some churches, but we

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see it outside the church as well, where people will

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try if they say anything about God's word, they'll try

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to pollute it so that we fall for the head fake, if.

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You will, right, well, and the information age that we're in,

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which we've told that we were foretold this was going

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to happen, that information was going to come in in

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great numbers, and we would find ourselves searching but not understanding,

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and it's almost like this is where we are right now,

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and it's kind of ironic. Right, you think of all

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the informations out there ai available to us and everything,

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and in the process of it all, because we insist

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on having it our own way, we've rendered ourselves stupid.

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So to speak, Well, when we can define truth, that

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means that we don't have to remember the words we've said,

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people can hold us to those words because situations change,

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and so the only thing that's operational is the truth

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at the moment. And that's a scary place to believe

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being as well. And it kind of reminds me when

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I was a kid and my older cousin and I

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would play Monopoly, and we both had younger brothers about

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three years younger than me, and they begged to play,

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and we finally let them play. And what we did

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was every roll of the dice, we redefine the rules

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so that we could win. And for a while they

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were so happy just to be able to play, But

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they finally figured out they were being taken advantage of.

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We allow people to to find the truth over and

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over and over again, they're going to abuse we who

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believe in objective truth.

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Well, and here we are in today's America about to

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celebrate our two hundred and fiftieth anniversary. Many people, I mean,

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pulling evidence demonstrates that people have lost their faith in

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this government. They feel there's rank corruption, there's fraud taking place,

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rules and order that God has established are being violated,

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and here we are. I mean in a sense you

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might say that you know there's divine judgment taking place

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and decline of our culture as a result of the

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choices that we insist on.

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Well, I think that's true. And unless we repent and

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return to our faith, I think it's a one way street.

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I think there's hope because God can restore us if.

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We turn to him.

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I think our founders were so brilliant because they studied

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the civilizations of history. They saw what worked and what didn't.

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They were Christians for the most part, not Deists. All

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the colonies had colony religions. If youd Maryland was Catholic,

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Rhode Island was Baptists, some were Congregationalists. And that's where

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this item about not setting am not setting a religion

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up for the country in the First Amendment came from.

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It didn't say separating church and state and getting church

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out of government. It basically said, we're not going to

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have a Baptist government or a Catholic government.

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Right, which is what they had experienced in Europe, and

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that's why they were so resistant. Right, we've been there,

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done that. We're not going to repeat that.

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Yes, absolutely, and so that pollution I think started it.

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Our founders foresaw this, and most democracies or republics only

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lasted a couple of hundred years because of the corruption.

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Aristotle two thousand years ago said republics decline into democracies.

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Democracies degenerate into despotism.

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And how right he was. And that's what we have.

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To protect is our republic and these God given rights,

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because if we decline into democracy's one step above mob

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rule because there's no protection for the minority political viewpoint.

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And so that's why it's so important. And we never

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hear politicians talk about the republic anymore. They just talk

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about democracy.

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Well, and then my question is, Richard, especially with some

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on the left you know that talk about democracy, I

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want to know what's your definition of democracy?

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Well, as I said a few years ago, when the

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political platform of the left is trust me and don't

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ask any questions, and that's basically their definitions. Whatever gives

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them the power at the moment, and the advantage because

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they believe they can redefine truth at the moment right

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And in.

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The process of doing that, they've taken this incredible well

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two documents, the Declaration of Independence and their Constitution, and

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they've obliterated it. They've twisted it up in such a

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way it's almost like you can hear the voice of

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the devil saying, you know, did our founding fathers really say?

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Well, yes?

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And that's where the argument about the Constitution being a living,

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breathing document. Basically, that means it's written in pencil and

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all you have to do is a race what you

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don't like and write in what you do like, and

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you can change at any time you want to. And

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that's what it means versus believing human nature's the same

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today as it was at the founding or at the beginning.

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And if human nature is the same, that means the

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language is the same and we can interpret it the

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same today as it was two hundred and fifty years ago.

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Well, and let's go back, I mean for over two

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hundred and fifty years the Founding fathers and the pilgrims

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before that, who had you know, fasted and sought God

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with all their hearts and souls for what some twelve years, saying, God,

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please give us a land where we can worship you

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freely because of the religious persecution that they had experies

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in Europe. And God answered their prayer, and many rallied

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to what the Psalmist wrote and said, blessed as a

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nation whose God is the Lord. And look what happened

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to this nation, and how little time, by comparison, that

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America has become this superpower, and we've been so blessed

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in be a built and we're able to bless other nations.

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Richard, Well, yes, and that's the thing.

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I think most Americans don't appreciate the gift that we've

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been given. And they want the rights, but they don't

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want the responsibilities. And we think things are essential that

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our parents could only dream about and our grandparents couldn't

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even conceive. And this gift we've been given for free,

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that so many have sacrificed for. One of my late

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Hey, we're back with him, Bill Martinez here with Richard

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Battle and the award winning Texas author, and we're talking

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historically about our two hundred and fifty plus year history

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that is so rich and again reminding everybody of how

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we've lost our way and where we are compared to

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where we started. You know, two hundred and fifty plus

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years ago, people who believed in God wanted to honor

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God and be that light on a shining hill.

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Richard, Well, yes, and I think two of the attributes

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of that are tolerance and drift. We tolerate people who

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want to tear down this glorious country. We tolerate them

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to that point, and then we drift away from the

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faith where we don't believe it's important in.

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Our lives anymore.

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Because of this plenty and easy life that we've had.

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We don't think we need God anymore when we do,

810
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and we will pay the price if we drift too

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far or tolerate too much.

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Well, God has built into the system and adjudication type

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process where there are consequences when you break the law

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in much the same way, and I've been saying this

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for years, when you violate gravity, you know, the consequences

816
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are pretty quick and you realize, Okay, I shouldn't be

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that stupid, and continue on with that, Maybe I need

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to honor the law of gravity. Well, if the law

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gravity exists, how many other laws exist, Richard, in much

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the same way. But because we don't, as the Book

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of Ecclesiastes says, because we don't realize the consequence so immediate,

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we think somehow we're getting away with something.

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Well, I think that's the situation because as the late

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Hadn't Robinson said, time is our enemy disguised as our

825
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friend and so leave.

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We're in charge.

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We believe that everything is going to be tomorrow like

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it is today. We don't have to pay a price

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for what we've got. There's so many things that put

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the fake on us, if you will, of the need

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to be faithful people day in day out.

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Why does Easter still matter today?

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Well, I think it is the most important thing in

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human history because without it there's no hope. And it's

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a reliance on self to go through this life and

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just experience everything and hope that we can control it.

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But to realize that God told us what he was

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going to do. Jesus was sacrificed dead and was buried

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in a rose and ascended and he is alive. He's

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the only faith in any kind of I hate to

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use a term religion because Christianity is not really a religion,

842
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but our faith in Him gives us hope for not

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only today, but for anity.

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Well, and it's so counter what the world's proposition has

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to offer.

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You know.

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Jesus says it's about service and humility, you know, bring

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a towel, right. I love that idea of how he

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washed the apostles feet, and that message carried forward as

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a disciple, as an apostle of Jesus, we come to

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serve with humility.

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Right, Well, that's correct, and with what he did on

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the cross, it's done. All we have to do is believe,

854
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and it's ours. All other faiths are commanded. They have

855
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to do things to try to earn the reward of salvation,

856
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if you will, or the reward of eternity, and even

857
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in Islam, no matter what they do, there's no guarantee.

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And that's one of the reasons it's such a hopeless

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I hate to even use the term religion, but a

860
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belief system, because they cannot do anything to assure they

861
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have eternal life, and so that's why they try so

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hard to try to increase that hope when hope is

863
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really elusive.

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Well, exactly. Well, and speaking of Islam, and you know,

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let's talk about the rise of anti Semitism. I mean,

866
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it's amazing, Richard. I never thought, even though you know,

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I've read the Bible many times through and through every

868
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year I go through it and we're warned about the

869
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rise of anti Semitism. But to me, it's amazing to

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actually witness the kind of anti semitism and how it's

871
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developed over particularly in the recent years.

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Well even at World War Two, when General Eisenhower made

873
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sure that the concentration camps were filmed because he recognized

874
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it wouldn't be too long before people would deny the Holocaust.

875
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And we see that today, and we see the blames

876
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on the Jewish people for everything that somebody wants to

877
00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:04.239
have a blame for something. The Jewish people always take

878
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the blame. We go back to Hayman to Hitler. Every

879
00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:12.880
time there's a situation like this, the Jews get blamed,

880
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and we're called on in Genesis that they're God's people

881
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and those that blessed the Jewish people will be blessed

882
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by God, and those who curse the Jewish people will

883
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be cursed by God. And so that's part of the

884
00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:28.519
reason of the United States historically is back the Jewish

885
00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:33.039
people and Israel's because of that called by God to

886
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do so.

887
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Yeah, and every time we do, we get blessed, and

888
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every time we don't. There's been well documented books written

889
00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:46.840
about how we have violated and not blessed Israel. And

890
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I think the total natural disasters that America has been

891
00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:57.000
subjected to when they are not in line with blessing Israel.

892
00:47:57.039 --> 00:48:00.079
It's probably totaled over a trillion dollars of damage.

893
00:48:00.320 --> 00:48:01.280
Well, I would think so.

894
00:48:01.480 --> 00:48:04.039
And of course you bring up a point that today

895
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very few people attribute to God anything that happens in

896
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the world. We don't see anything being sent by Him

897
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as punishment for us. For example, nine to eleven, some

898
00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:20.039
people tried to say that was a punishment for drifting

899
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away from God, and they were scolded for trying to

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use that. And whereas we know, he's in control and

901
00:48:27.519 --> 00:48:33.320
he's either having something happen or he's allowing something to happen,

902
00:48:33.880 --> 00:48:37.480
and we need to use those to forewarn us to

903
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:38.840
come back to him.

904
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Well, and the way God works, it's not willing nilly,

905
00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:48.000
It is not just consequential. There are certain things that

906
00:48:48.079 --> 00:48:53.119
happen historically that happen because God had said it in stone.

907
00:48:53.599 --> 00:48:55.559
It's in a point of time, and much the same

908
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way when Jesus came into Jerusalem, he grieved for the

909
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children of Israel, for the Jews at that time because

910
00:49:03.199 --> 00:49:06.480
they missed their time of God's visitation.

911
00:49:08.280 --> 00:49:12.840
Well, yes, that's true, and we just have to return

912
00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:19.599
faithfully and we have to live life of examples to

913
00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:23.440
others of our faith so that they can see this isn't.

914
00:49:23.239 --> 00:49:26.199
Just words in a book, but it's a way to live.

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And our examples can show other people that God, how

916
00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:35.119
God treats us, and how we respond to adversity is

917
00:49:35.159 --> 00:49:40.079
so important to be examples for other people of encouragement

918
00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:43.559
and hope. We have to live His purpose for us

919
00:49:43.599 --> 00:49:47.960
here and prepare for His purpose for us beyond well.

920
00:49:48.000 --> 00:49:50.079
And the fact of the matter is, Richard, when you think,

921
00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:53.599
you know, we're holding back testimonies, we're not hearing from

922
00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:58.239
people whose lives have changed so dramatically and very simply.

923
00:49:58.280 --> 00:49:59.840
You know, some people say to me, well, Bill, you

924
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I'm not an apologist. You know, I don't know how

925
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to give my testimony. I said, I go, you're making

926
00:50:06.119 --> 00:50:08.559
it too complicated. I mean to me, one of the

927
00:50:08.559 --> 00:50:11.000
best testimonies in the Bible is the blind Man. He

928
00:50:11.039 --> 00:50:13.039
didn't understand. He just all I know I was.

929
00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:13.639
Now I am.

930
00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:17.760
I'm different as a result of coming in contact with

931
00:50:17.960 --> 00:50:19.000
the Messiah, right.

932
00:50:20.079 --> 00:50:23.199
Well, yes, and you talk about humility. To me, there's

933
00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:28.880
nothing more humbling than when he reaches out and communicates

934
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:32.400
something to me. And I've had that happen more times

935
00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:36.280
than I thought I ever would. And it's very humbling

936
00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:40.519
because you feel that responsibility. He's told me to do

937
00:50:40.599 --> 00:50:44.639
certain things. One I need to obey. A second, it

938
00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:47.880
makes me want to get closer to him of because

939
00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:50.800
I realize that not only does he love me, but

940
00:50:50.920 --> 00:50:54.360
he has a purpose for me here and I'll live

941
00:50:54.440 --> 00:50:55.719
here as long.

942
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As I'm executing that purpose.

943
00:50:57.960 --> 00:50:58.159
Yeah.

944
00:50:58.199 --> 00:51:00.559
When that happens to me, Richard, I'm like you, I

945
00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:02.519
want to hold onto Jesus's garment just so that I

946
00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:03.400
won't mess it up.

947
00:51:04.679 --> 00:51:07.440
You know, Yes said, if we have a minute, I'd

948
00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:10.480
tell one example if I could, Yes, please go ahead.

949
00:51:11.400 --> 00:51:15.119
Years ago, when my son was six months old, I

950
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:17.800
was afraid I wouldn't live long enough, so I wrote

951
00:51:17.800 --> 00:51:22.400
a letter to him with forty three life lessons. Unfortunately,

952
00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:26.519
he passed away three months later. More than twenty years

953
00:51:26.559 --> 00:51:29.159
after that, it'd be four years coming up. In June,

954
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I was doing a four minute radio show in Iowa

955
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about Father's Day, about that letter and a grief book

956
00:51:36.599 --> 00:51:40.000
I wrote about losing him. I did it from the

957
00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:42.639
sales floor of a car dealership where I was having

958
00:51:42.679 --> 00:51:43.599
my truck service.

959
00:51:44.599 --> 00:51:45.599
And I'm shortening.

960
00:51:45.639 --> 00:51:48.159
This guy walks through while I'm doing this.

961
00:51:48.079 --> 00:51:49.119
Four minute interview.

962
00:51:49.199 --> 00:51:51.639
We finish, I'm driving home.

963
00:51:51.679 --> 00:51:52.800
I get a phone call.

964
00:51:53.519 --> 00:51:55.199
I called the guy back and he said, were you

965
00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:58.639
the person in the Seals lounge talking on the phone.

966
00:51:58.760 --> 00:52:00.920
I said yes, I didn't know I was doing a

967
00:52:01.039 --> 00:52:04.079
radio interview. He said, I wanted to call and say

968
00:52:04.159 --> 00:52:06.960
thank you. Last night, I prayed to God all night

969
00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:10.639
long that he would send somebody to comfort me.

970
00:52:11.079 --> 00:52:14.280
Because I lost my daughter two months ago. I think

971
00:52:14.320 --> 00:52:15.119
he sent you.

972
00:52:16.199 --> 00:52:18.519
I talked to a friend afterwards, he said, well, that

973
00:52:18.639 --> 00:52:21.880
was a God moment. You need to take that story,

974
00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:23.079
take that letter.

975
00:52:22.880 --> 00:52:25.559
Expand upon it. It ended up being a book I

976
00:52:25.599 --> 00:52:27.239
wrote called The Unopened Present.

977
00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:31.079
It was one of the most humbling experiences of my life.

978
00:52:32.079 --> 00:52:36.719
Happened within four minutes. Imagine that this guy happened to

979
00:52:36.760 --> 00:52:38.519
come in. He didn't know I was on the radio,

980
00:52:38.920 --> 00:52:41.559
The people in Iowa didn't know. Somebody in Texas was

981
00:52:41.599 --> 00:52:46.559
benefiting from the discussion. And it was just very humbling

982
00:52:46.920 --> 00:52:49.760
how this person was touched and his prayer was answered

983
00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:54.199
in that short period. And so that was an example

984
00:52:54.280 --> 00:52:58.320
to me, one of many of God reaching in and

985
00:52:58.519 --> 00:53:00.000
touching me at a certain time.

986
00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:04.039
Well, Richard, as we wrap this thing, up, and here

987
00:53:04.079 --> 00:53:09.000
we are in this holy week and Easter season. Again.

988
00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:11.840
By the way, congratulations on the book made in America

989
00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:16.760
by Americans, not Americans. Richard Battle has been with us,

990
00:53:16.760 --> 00:53:19.760
so I'll let you summarize and wrap us up, if

991
00:53:19.800 --> 00:53:20.440
you would please.

992
00:53:21.199 --> 00:53:24.440
Well, it's just such a great week and we need

993
00:53:24.480 --> 00:53:28.559
to share with those who don't know the meaning of

994
00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:32.360
Easter beyond the baskets and the bonnets and the Easter

995
00:53:32.400 --> 00:53:35.199
egg hunts, if you will, and that it gives us

996
00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:38.000
the hope for the rest of our lives here and

997
00:53:38.079 --> 00:53:39.119
for eternity.

998
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:43.599
Amen, Richard Battle, thank you so much. Thank you for

999
00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:46.679
that story. You didn't share that with me the last time.

1000
00:53:47.519 --> 00:53:50.599
Well, it takes a little longer to tell more fully,

1001
00:53:50.719 --> 00:53:52.360
and I didn't know if we had.

1002
00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:55.400
Time or not. Well, but thank you you bless us

1003
00:53:55.760 --> 00:53:58.920
so much, Richard Battle. Thanks again. Happy Easter to you,

1004
00:53:58.960 --> 00:53:59.639
my friend, Take.

1005
00:53:59.480 --> 00:54:02.119
Care, and God bless America to everybody.

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Getting America back on track. Bill Martinez Live.

1025
00:55:14.119 --> 00:55:16.119
Hey, good morning, Welcome six minutes after the top of

1026
00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:19.079
the hour. Right now Bill Martinez here with Drew Thomas

1027
00:55:19.119 --> 00:55:23.400
Allen DTA and his new book Clinton Hoax. Obama coop

1028
00:55:23.679 --> 00:55:27.360
the declassified story of the Trump Russia delusion. To say

1029
00:55:27.400 --> 00:55:29.480
the least, Drew going to be seeing you again. How

1030
00:55:29.519 --> 00:55:29.760
are you?

1031
00:55:31.400 --> 00:55:32.880
I'm doing great, It's going to be idiot.

1032
00:55:33.159 --> 00:55:36.239
Well, great book here. You know now that we've had

1033
00:55:36.239 --> 00:55:42.199
the declassified information, everything that we suspected reported on early

1034
00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:44.760
on that we you know, we had to stay in

1035
00:55:44.760 --> 00:55:47.880
the realm of the theoretical. Our gut and our intelligence

1036
00:55:48.159 --> 00:55:52.519
indicated that this was one big coup attempt. And here

1037
00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:55.440
it is right in front of our face. Now, what

1038
00:55:55.480 --> 00:55:56.440
are we going to do about it?

1039
00:55:58.800 --> 00:56:01.039
Yeah, I mean the minimum thing that we must do

1040
00:56:02.039 --> 00:56:06.360
is accountability by means of as many Americans as possible

1041
00:56:06.480 --> 00:56:10.519
understanding what they did to this country at a bare minimum,

1042
00:56:10.559 --> 00:56:15.199
Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, all those involved, dozens and dozens

1043
00:56:15.199 --> 00:56:17.519
and dozens of people in the media as well that

1044
00:56:17.559 --> 00:56:19.639
we're in you're talking, you're talking about they should walk

1045
00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:20.760
around in shame.

1046
00:56:21.079 --> 00:56:24.519
Right over fifty intelligence officers. I mean, the list is long,

1047
00:56:24.760 --> 00:56:27.880
which really demonstrates, you know, to your point here, how

1048
00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:31.239
corrupt our government is. And if we're going to get

1049
00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:35.280
back to some sense of standard, the truth must reign,

1050
00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:38.840
no matter how painful it's going to be, and people

1051
00:56:39.159 --> 00:56:43.159
need to face the consequences of what they tried to

1052
00:56:43.239 --> 00:56:47.280
do in terms of I mean, after all the hoopla

1053
00:56:47.480 --> 00:56:53.559
about January sixth, this makes January six pale and insignificance,

1054
00:56:53.599 --> 00:56:54.000
doesn't it.

1055
00:56:55.400 --> 00:56:58.800
Yeah, it does. I mean, you have the coordination between

1056
00:56:59.679 --> 00:57:04.679
the bomb administration and his intelligence community, the media, you know,

1057
00:57:04.800 --> 00:57:09.199
law firms Mark Aalized for example, and others who are

1058
00:57:09.239 --> 00:57:14.480
all in on this complete hoax that eventually turns into

1059
00:57:14.519 --> 00:57:18.320
a coup to try and frame Donald Trump as Putin's puppet,

1060
00:57:18.480 --> 00:57:21.039
just because Hillary Clinton has so much baggage and dirt

1061
00:57:21.079 --> 00:57:24.559
that her chances of election are nil, and so they

1062
00:57:24.559 --> 00:57:29.760
can coct this this unbelievable, unbelievable fairy tale. Because what

1063
00:57:29.840 --> 00:57:31.079
I say to people too, Bill in one of the

1064
00:57:31.159 --> 00:57:32.519
one of the chapters of the book, is the problem

1065
00:57:32.519 --> 00:57:34.440
with the premise. You know, you didn't have to be

1066
00:57:34.559 --> 00:57:37.360
a particularly smart person to understand that it was bs

1067
00:57:37.400 --> 00:57:40.320
from the beginning, because all you had to ask yourself was, Okay,

1068
00:57:40.599 --> 00:57:44.079
who would Putin rather have as president? Hillary Clinton? Who

1069
00:57:44.239 --> 00:57:47.079
who was a dream for him as well as Barack

1070
00:57:47.119 --> 00:57:52.159
Obama his administration or uh, you know Donald Trump, who

1071
00:57:52.559 --> 00:57:56.199
you know, obviously was an unknown entity to some extent,

1072
00:57:56.239 --> 00:57:57.960
even though he'd been on the record talking about things

1073
00:57:58.000 --> 00:58:01.239
throughout his career. It was complete bs In Belogney.

1074
00:58:01.719 --> 00:58:04.639
Yeah, well, and Putin knew that he didn't have any

1075
00:58:04.719 --> 00:58:08.400
hooks into Donald Trump. Trump was very independent and like

1076
00:58:08.440 --> 00:58:12.000
you said he toyed with Hillary Clinton like a cat

1077
00:58:12.039 --> 00:58:13.079
with a little mouse.

1078
00:58:14.199 --> 00:58:16.440
Well, exactly. And it's important for people to remember that

1079
00:58:16.679 --> 00:58:19.800
Vladimir Putin was looking for dirt on Donald Trump. As

1080
00:58:19.840 --> 00:58:22.559
a matter of fact, so was the Clinton campaign looking

1081
00:58:22.559 --> 00:58:25.760
for dirt on Donald Trump. There was opposition research. One

1082
00:58:25.800 --> 00:58:27.960
of the documents that was stolen early on, that was

1083
00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:31.360
released by Goosifer before the wicked leaks leaks came was

1084
00:58:31.440 --> 00:58:34.039
oppositioned research into Donald Trump. And you did not hear

1085
00:58:34.079 --> 00:58:35.719
a word from the media at that point because they

1086
00:58:35.760 --> 00:58:37.599
hadn't been given the green light to go ahead with

1087
00:58:37.639 --> 00:58:40.119
his hoax. But the media didn't report on the leaks

1088
00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:43.280
of Donald Trump opposition research from the d n C servers,

1089
00:58:43.559 --> 00:58:46.199
as you know, Putin trying to help, you know, because

1090
00:58:46.199 --> 00:58:48.199
obviously it didn't fit the narrative right.

1091
00:58:48.519 --> 00:58:51.719
And of course, you know their alleged claim that Putin

1092
00:58:51.719 --> 00:58:55.559
had spent so much money in social media and you

1093
00:58:55.599 --> 00:58:59.000
and I know we have enough experience to understand that

1094
00:58:59.079 --> 00:59:04.960
one hundred thousand in social media investment is it's like worthless.

1095
00:59:05.760 --> 00:59:07.639
I mean, it's a joke. And I'm not even sure

1096
00:59:07.639 --> 00:59:10.480
that they even did that, but you know, give them

1097
00:59:10.480 --> 00:59:12.679
the benefit of the doubt and say they did. There's

1098
00:59:12.679 --> 00:59:13.960
no way you're going to move the need a line

1099
00:59:13.960 --> 00:59:15.760
one hundred thousand dollars of social media.

1100
00:59:16.960 --> 00:59:17.239
No.

1101
00:59:17.239 --> 00:59:19.519
No, And you know what, the the bigger scandal from

1102
00:59:19.679 --> 00:59:21.360
kind of a bird's eye view that nobody ever talked

1103
00:59:21.400 --> 00:59:23.800
about in all this collusion and hacking everything else. And

1104
00:59:23.800 --> 00:59:25.480
there's no doubt in my mind that Russians were hacking

1105
00:59:25.920 --> 00:59:28.039
because you know, the Russians had been hacking the Obama

1106
00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:31.519
administration long, you know, long, long before you know, this

1107
00:59:31.639 --> 00:59:34.639
twenty sixteen election was approaching. They had actually their you

1108
00:59:34.719 --> 00:59:36.800
know New York Times report on this all the media

1109
00:59:37.199 --> 00:59:40.519
that his own communications and emails, Barack Obamas, the President

1110
00:59:40.559 --> 00:59:42.639
of the United States, had been penetrated by the Russians,

1111
00:59:42.840 --> 00:59:44.199
and they came out at the time and said, well,

1112
00:59:44.199 --> 00:59:46.000
don't worry, you know, none the classified stuff they got.

1113
00:59:46.000 --> 00:59:47.599
So the point is, you know, the Russians had been

1114
00:59:47.639 --> 00:59:50.239
digging around under the Obama administration for a long time.

1115
00:59:50.880 --> 00:59:53.519
They probably were in Hillary Clinton's stuff as well, since

1116
00:59:53.559 --> 00:59:56.639
she had an illegal private server, And nobody ever asked

1117
00:59:56.679 --> 00:59:59.679
the question, you know, why is the Obama administration incapable

1118
00:59:59.760 --> 01:00:02.960
of of you know, pushing back against this Russian intrusion.

1119
01:00:03.199 --> 01:00:06.159
The Gang of Eight was actually briefed on the fact

1120
01:00:06.159 --> 01:00:08.199
that the DNC had been hacked as long as well

1121
01:00:08.239 --> 01:00:11.000
as other political entities, in the summer of twenty fifteen.

1122
01:00:11.320 --> 01:00:13.159
So you mean from the summer of twenty fifteen, and

1123
01:00:13.159 --> 01:00:15.840
then suddenly you hear about Russian hacking, you know, when

1124
01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:18.079
you're approaching summer of twenty sixteen, a year they've been

1125
01:00:18.119 --> 01:00:20.519
digging around. Everybody knows about this, and now it's a

1126
01:00:20.519 --> 01:00:21.159
big scandal.

1127
01:00:21.719 --> 01:00:24.320
Yeah, exactly. Well, and the deal is the fact the

1128
01:00:24.360 --> 01:00:28.920
matter is less people forget. Everybody hacks everyone, Okay, I

1129
01:00:28.960 --> 01:00:33.239
mean everybody's hacking, So you know, what goes around comes around,

1130
01:00:33.679 --> 01:00:36.960
and you know, they're not ignorant of this stuff. And

1131
01:00:37.440 --> 01:00:39.679
you know, but I'll tell you what. The Obama administration,

1132
01:00:39.760 --> 01:00:42.880
which claimed to be scandal free, I don't know how

1133
01:00:43.039 --> 01:00:45.280
even to this day that they were able to escape

1134
01:00:45.559 --> 01:00:48.400
the scandal of ben Ghazi. Explain that to me, Drew.

1135
01:00:48.960 --> 01:00:50.960
Yeah, well, this book kind of starts with ben Gazzi

1136
01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:52.679
because if you hadn't had ben Gazi, you wouldn't have

1137
01:00:52.679 --> 01:00:55.199
an investigation into Benghazi, and then you wouldn't have found

1138
01:00:55.239 --> 01:00:56.559
out about Clinton's private server.

1139
01:00:56.760 --> 01:00:57.599
And then you wouldn't have.

1140
01:00:57.519 --> 01:01:00.280
Peter wouldn't have had Peter Schweizer's book Clinton cash Out

1141
01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:02.519
the paid to Play while she was Secretary of State.

1142
01:01:02.719 --> 01:01:04.719
And then Hillary Clinton of course wouldn't have had a

1143
01:01:04.840 --> 01:01:07.599
need to come up with something insane because of the

1144
01:01:07.639 --> 01:01:10.480
scandals that were threatening to bring her childhood dream of

1145
01:01:11.239 --> 01:01:15.320
becoming the first female president crashing down. But Benghazi was

1146
01:01:15.320 --> 01:01:18.480
was It was a big deal because you had obviously

1147
01:01:18.519 --> 01:01:22.440
a premeditated terrorist attack on the anniversary of nine to

1148
01:01:22.440 --> 01:01:25.199
eleven in Benghazi, in Libya, and this came at a

1149
01:01:25.239 --> 01:01:30.199
time when Barack Obama and his foreign policy had destabilized Libya.

1150
01:01:30.559 --> 01:01:31.880
Uh he had led the NATO.

1151
01:01:31.760 --> 01:01:34.280
Charge to that ended in the the you know, killing

1152
01:01:34.400 --> 01:01:37.920
of Gadafi, and then in that void, Libya became a

1153
01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:40.599
very volatile place where all CADE affiliated groups could actually

1154
01:01:40.599 --> 01:01:44.199
regain power. They were pillaging stockpiles of weapons from the

1155
01:01:44.239 --> 01:01:47.639
previous Goadafi dictatorship, et cetera. So, you know, but the

1156
01:01:47.639 --> 01:01:50.320
big deal Benghazi is it was the first time we

1157
01:01:50.400 --> 01:01:53.920
saw in a massive scale Obama's willingness and ability to

1158
01:01:54.119 --> 01:01:56.639
corrupt the intelligence community because we knew that it was

1159
01:01:56.639 --> 01:02:00.800
a premated, premeditated terrorist attack that killed Ambassador Christopher Stevens

1160
01:02:00.840 --> 01:02:04.840
and three other Americans. But Obama, because he was facing reelection,

1161
01:02:05.400 --> 01:02:08.320
he told the CIA to scrub the talking points and

1162
01:02:08.320 --> 01:02:10.360
revised them twelve times. It was him that did it,

1163
01:02:10.400 --> 01:02:14.840
not Hillary Clinton twelve times to pump out this fake

1164
01:02:14.960 --> 01:02:18.599
narrative that it was a spontaneous protest based on an

1165
01:02:18.639 --> 01:02:23.079
anti Muslim Islam video, because his re election campaign depended

1166
01:02:23.119 --> 01:02:25.079
on him telling the American people that he had Outcaid

1167
01:02:25.159 --> 01:02:27.599
on the run, that he had been effective against terrorism

1168
01:02:27.760 --> 01:02:29.920
and he wasn't. And there were other scandals along with

1169
01:02:29.960 --> 01:02:31.880
it as well, but it was protecting his reelection and

1170
01:02:31.920 --> 01:02:33.199
the media was happy to comply.

1171
01:02:33.880 --> 01:02:38.119
Yeah, his so called JV team was kicking the varsity teams.

1172
01:02:38.159 --> 01:02:40.840
But yes, that's what that was one of the famous

1173
01:02:40.880 --> 01:02:43.599
lines that he set out there, and it was all untrue,

1174
01:02:43.599 --> 01:02:47.000
and of course he made the country and the world

1175
01:02:47.159 --> 01:02:52.480
much less safer. Russia obviously famously invaded an annex Crimea

1176
01:02:52.559 --> 01:02:57.239
under his watch, and of course, you know the Benghazi.

1177
01:02:57.400 --> 01:02:59.800
The thing about the Benghazi thing was it exposed the

1178
01:02:59.800 --> 01:03:02.679
fact that we had a CIA presence there and that

1179
01:03:02.840 --> 01:03:05.199
really the temporary mission facility that was there was actually

1180
01:03:05.199 --> 01:03:07.639
a cover for the CIA annex down the street that

1181
01:03:07.760 --> 01:03:09.920
was was trafficking arms to different rebel groups.

1182
01:03:09.920 --> 01:03:12.719
I was just gonna say, yeah, exactly, that got hidden

1183
01:03:12.760 --> 01:03:15.599
up real quick, right, I mean we're gun running.

1184
01:03:16.480 --> 01:03:18.760
Yeah, we were gun running and we weren't where We're

1185
01:03:18.840 --> 01:03:22.320
just gun running in Libya, where he'd already you know,

1186
01:03:22.599 --> 01:03:26.079
created this power vacuum where terrorists could become powerful groups.

1187
01:03:26.320 --> 01:03:28.480
He was actually using that annex to do the same

1188
01:03:28.559 --> 01:03:32.199
thing in Syria when that took place, So the same

1189
01:03:32.239 --> 01:03:35.639
failed foreign policy that was a disaster obviously in Benghazi

1190
01:03:35.679 --> 01:03:40.159
in Libya, he was already eager to pursue in Syria

1191
01:03:40.199 --> 01:03:40.599
as well.

1192
01:03:41.360 --> 01:03:43.920
Well, this is amazing to me because you know, there

1193
01:03:43.960 --> 01:03:46.920
seems to be a consistent theme here, Drew with with

1194
01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:51.280
the Democrats, it's somehow it's embedded in their DNA when

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it comes to foreign policy, when it comes to you know,

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actions like this, they're terrible. I mean it's like I

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commander in chief because they don't get it. Anyway, we

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Patriots welcome, Back Bill martinez, here and we're talking With

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Drew Thomas, allen whose new Book Clinton Hoax obama.

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Coop. WOW i mean that that is a big, headline but,

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there like you, said and we've been breaking this, Down.

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Drew there's so many. ELEMENTS i, mean you, know we

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talked about Ben ghazi and you, know the murder of

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A us ambassador and three Other american, citizens and what

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happened in terms of the reaction and the lack of you,

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know true leadership at a point when our embassy was under.

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ATTACK i mean that three o'clock in the morning phone

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call went. Unanswered, yeah, yeah.

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EXACTLY i, mean it was boss from beginning to end

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because it was all about. Politics you, know The obama

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ministration wasn't really concerned with you, know the fact That

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americans lost their. Lives they were worried about how it

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would reflect on the administration and his reelection. Chances and you,

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know that's one of the most pathetic Things i've seen

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in my, life is just the WAY i, mean and

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it was a dark moment In american history that you

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had a sitting president that was not just willing to

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lie to The american people to protect his, reelection but

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you had a media that was eager to cover it

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up as. Well you. Know one of the THINGS i

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found out in the Book built was that AS i did,

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research was That obama actually sat down on the On

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The Letterman show After, benghazi and he for the first

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time and only, time he told the lie like he

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Was Susan, rice that this was a spontaneous protest that

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was the result of an Anti islam. Video and so

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you have him on the record lying to The american

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people On The Letterman, show and then and THEN. Cbs you,

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know now you hear them complaining about censorship and THE

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sec And Brendan carr and threats and so on and so.

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Forth BUT cbs and the media actually censored. Themselves they

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actually took down the full interview from The, internet and

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they allowed other segments Hitting romney and stuff to remain,

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up but they pulled the whole interview and the media

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pretended like that moment the big think about, It this

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is the biggest moment of the Entire letterman. Interview The

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president Of states is saying this is because of a YouTube.

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Video and the next Day Matthew, olsen one of the

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high members of the intelligence, community testified that it was

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it was a premeditated terrorist. Attack so he lied to

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The american people and the. Media they just put it

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in a black.

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Hole, yeah, well the, media we're Sick ephens and they

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continue to be to this day as far As Barack

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obama is. CONCERNED i, mean When Barack obama came out

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and announced that we were going to start the fundamental

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transformation of our, country he made it clear that suddenly

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our constitution was going to be subordinate to a hidden.

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Agenda and it took us eight years to see. It

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for some of, us you, know we saw it early.

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On we saw the trajectory of what was going. On

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but the media were, consistently you, know Protecting. OBAMA i,

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mean just like right, now as much as ninety five

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percent of what the media reports is purposely negative About,

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01:11:39.720 --> 01:11:42.479
trump well it was just the opposite For. Obama ninety

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five percent of what they reported was.

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Positive, Right, yeah that's exactly, Right that's exactly. Right and

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they've been doing that for a long. Time but we

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really saw that elevated and, escalated you, know With, obama

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the effort to protect him and then the effort to

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Destroy Donald. Trump you, know one of the biggest takeaways

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01:11:59.560 --> 01:12:04.359
in this book from the Declassified Tulsi gabbard stuff is

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These russian, Memos bill and the, right this is the

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01:12:08.079 --> 01:12:11.039
irony of the whole situation is That so The russians were, spying,

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obviously and The russians were actually doing better journalism than

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Obviously american, journalists and so they were documenting with all

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the emails and, stuff they were able to gather up

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exactly what The clinton campaign and even The obama administration

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and justice system were. Doing and so these are reports

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that were intended for The, Kremlins so they were For

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Vladimir putin's, eyes so they were their goal was to be.

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Accurate and so the greatest actually account of what and

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the most truthful account of what The democrats and The

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clinton administration did to this country come from The, russians

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of all.

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People go, figure, well, hey no big surprise, here. Right see,

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again this is why the call you, know to All,

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america we the, people is that look at you, know

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our show drew as you know from day. One you,

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know we've been doing this eighteen plus years. Now it's

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all about the, truth the whole, truth and nothing but

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and it can be, painful there's no doubt about. It

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and right, NOW i mean in social skis because where

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we are right, now we're not going to GET i,

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mean we're on the verge of celebrating two hundred and

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fifty years of independence and this Great american dream and

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vision that our founders had for our. Country we've lost our.

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01:13:13.119 --> 01:13:16.479
Way all our three letter agencies have been. Corrupt Donald,

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01:13:16.479 --> 01:13:20.760
trump single, handedly pretty much by, himself is sitting there

1379
01:13:20.760 --> 01:13:23.640
trying to root all this junk out that has been so,

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01:13:23.960 --> 01:13:27.359
entrenched you, know with eight years Of, obama add four

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01:13:27.399 --> 01:13:32.640
more years Of, biden and we've got a lot of

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01:13:32.680 --> 01:13:35.800
stuff to clean up. Here and you cannot Expect Donald

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01:13:35.800 --> 01:13:38.800
trump to do this by, himself especially when he's you, know,

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01:13:38.880 --> 01:13:42.520
fighting you, know fighting The democrats and as much of

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01:13:42.600 --> 01:13:46.319
a lunatic fringe that they're on and, binge you, know

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01:13:46.640 --> 01:13:49.079
they don't make sense. ANYMORE i, mean they put us

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01:13:49.079 --> 01:13:53.159
through another you, know government shutdown for what you, know it's.

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01:13:53.239 --> 01:13:55.600
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piling of the media that's keeping us the truth away from.

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01:13:58.960 --> 01:14:01.279
Us and why More americans just, saying, Hey i'd much

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rather tune into THE bbc or maybe even got let's

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go in and buy a subscription To, Pravda, right.

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Yeah, Yeah, LOOK i mean The Trump rusherclusion coup was

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01:14:13.560 --> 01:14:17.239
one of the greatest assaults on A republican Modern american,

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01:14:17.319 --> 01:14:18.880
history AND i would argue in all of The american,

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01:14:18.960 --> 01:14:23.840
history and you, know it's really important that people understand what.

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01:14:23.920 --> 01:14:27.960
Happens and you, know accountability comes from awareness and people demanding.

1398
01:14:28.119 --> 01:14:31.600
Accountability and so you, know we can't really let The

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01:14:31.600 --> 01:14:35.760
Trump rushia collusion thing go Because trump RuSHA coclusion led

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to the stolen twenty twenty, Election it led to the

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unprecedented law fair of twenty twenty. Four because the enemy

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01:14:42.039 --> 01:14:45.800
here becomes emboldened because there is no, accountability and of

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course they become desperate as.

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Well, well and you know that they had to double.

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Down you're not going to tell me that there wasn't

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a voter fraud and sheeting going on for the twenty

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01:14:55.520 --> 01:14:59.039
sixteen election That Hillary clinton she just couldn't, cheat you,

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01:14:59.079 --> 01:15:04.119
know as good and. Enough and this is why with With,

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biden they had to really double down and make sure

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at whatever the cost, was whatever the cheating that took.

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Place Mark elias and his band of five hundred plus

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attorney's going around the, country they were going to make

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sure that there was no way That Donald trump was

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gonna get.

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Reelected, well that's, Right i'm glad to bring Up Mark

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olias because he was one of the lawyers At Perkins

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coy before he quickly jumped ship right around the time

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that we found out that The clinton campaign had violated you,

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know HAD fec violations because of claiming these you Know

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steele dossier was that opposition, research you, know was was

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not accounted for what it. Was and you, Know Mark

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olias is kind of the key to The Trump russia collusion.

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Stuff he he allowed everyone to hide behind attorney client

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privilege and he was the middleman between The obama administration everyone.

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Else everyone came To Mark elias and nobody knows more

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about what happened Than Mark. Elias and yet he has

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skated free.

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01:15:57.479 --> 01:16:01.000
Completely but when it all comes down to, it no

1429
01:16:01.159 --> 01:16:03.520
question that he was a power broker in all. This

1430
01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:06.920
BUT i still maintained that it Was. Obama he was

1431
01:16:06.960 --> 01:16:08.199
the wizard Of oz on all this.

1432
01:16:08.279 --> 01:16:08.399
Thing.

1433
01:16:09.359 --> 01:16:11.439
Yeah, well And enie has been in a lot of. Things,

1434
01:16:11.720 --> 01:16:14.399
YEAH i mean that that's true because the you, know

1435
01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:19.399
Remember Hillary, clinton this you know hoax that she concocted

1436
01:16:19.439 --> 01:16:22.039
That obama turned into a. Coup you, know she couldn't

1437
01:16:22.079 --> 01:16:24.920
have done pulled it off without The obama. Administration she

1438
01:16:25.079 --> 01:16:28.039
wasn't in. Power she was a you, know private citizen

1439
01:16:28.039 --> 01:16:30.279
at the time running for. President she Wasn't secretary Of state,

1440
01:16:30.319 --> 01:16:33.720
Anymore she wasn't inside the government. Herself so this entire

1441
01:16:33.760 --> 01:16:37.960
operation was completely dependent upon the participation of the sitting

1442
01:16:37.960 --> 01:16:39.880
president of The United. States and we know for a

1443
01:16:39.920 --> 01:16:44.640
fact That Barack obama was briefed By John brennan on

1444
01:16:45.479 --> 01:16:47.119
The clinton plan to Vilify.

1445
01:16:47.159 --> 01:16:50.000
Trump, yeah what was the biggest surprise for you in

1446
01:16:50.039 --> 01:16:52.079
these declassified, Documents.

1447
01:16:52.279 --> 01:16:57.079
Well it was the revelation that you had this these

1448
01:16:57.119 --> 01:17:02.479
different kind of avenues. Colliding you had A obama administration

1449
01:17:02.560 --> 01:17:05.239
trying to shut down investigations Into Hillary clinton to try

1450
01:17:05.279 --> 01:17:08.640
and absolve her and get rid of these. Scandals and

1451
01:17:08.680 --> 01:17:10.520
at the same, time you have The russians who are,

1452
01:17:10.520 --> 01:17:13.039
spying who are putting all that evidence back in front

1453
01:17:13.039 --> 01:17:17.319
of their faces because they're intercepting These russian memos and

1454
01:17:17.479 --> 01:17:20.439
they're supposed to be investigating THE dnc and those. Servers

1455
01:17:21.359 --> 01:17:24.000
but at the same time that they can't go and

1456
01:17:24.039 --> 01:17:26.640
investigate THOSE dnc servers because you're returning to the scene

1457
01:17:26.680 --> 01:17:29.399
of the. Crime so when they gave this off to,

1458
01:17:29.479 --> 01:17:32.640
CrowdStrike which is an inexplicable, decision a third, party you,

1459
01:17:32.680 --> 01:17:35.199
know chosen by THE dnc instead THE fbi looking into

1460
01:17:35.239 --> 01:17:37.079
it themselves and seizing the servers like they would do.

1461
01:17:37.119 --> 01:17:39.239
OTHERWISE i think that it was for a couple of,

1462
01:17:39.279 --> 01:17:42.319
reasons but one was because they needed a way. Out you,

1463
01:17:42.359 --> 01:17:44.199
know if you're trying to get rid of The Hillary clinton,

1464
01:17:44.239 --> 01:17:46.920
scandals and you know there's evidence on THE dnc servers

1465
01:17:46.920 --> 01:17:49.159
and emails that leads back to those, scandals you can't

1466
01:17:49.199 --> 01:17:49.920
go in there.

1467
01:17:50.000 --> 01:17:53.600
No exactly any. Consequences is there going to be any

1468
01:17:53.600 --> 01:17:54.479
consequences on this.

1469
01:17:54.560 --> 01:17:58.199
Troop, well we'll see what happens With James. Comey they're

1470
01:17:58.239 --> 01:18:00.279
giving it a second go here In florida with some

1471
01:18:00.319 --> 01:18:05.000
different charges. Potentially but, LOOK i Mean i'm Not i'm

1472
01:18:05.000 --> 01:18:07.680
not super, optimistic to be. HONEST i, mean the BEST

1473
01:18:07.720 --> 01:18:09.600
i can hope for is that you, know people read

1474
01:18:09.600 --> 01:18:11.880
this book or like they've read other, ones and that

1475
01:18:11.920 --> 01:18:15.319
they get really fired up about what, happened because you,

1476
01:18:15.359 --> 01:18:17.600
know then we can have some. Momentum but you, KNOW i,

1477
01:18:17.640 --> 01:18:20.520
Mean i'm Not Peter. Schweizer that's a special. Guy but you,

1478
01:18:20.520 --> 01:18:23.920
know his books did create a lot of investigations and,

1479
01:18:24.000 --> 01:18:26.359
things you, KNOW i would love for this at least

1480
01:18:26.359 --> 01:18:30.119
to spark some some anger in The american people, again

1481
01:18:30.199 --> 01:18:30.800
to remind them what.

1482
01:18:30.880 --> 01:18:34.800
Happened, well the problem with politics and the frustration that

1483
01:18:34.840 --> 01:18:37.520
the Everyday american has is that we hear about, this

1484
01:18:37.600 --> 01:18:41.880
we get, frustrated and nothing, happens and it lives another

1485
01:18:42.000 --> 01:18:45.520
day to repeat. Itself AND i think that in light

1486
01:18:45.560 --> 01:18:48.319
of all that we've gone through in the last two,

1487
01:18:48.399 --> 01:18:52.199
Decades america is fed. Up and guess what we want

1488
01:18:52.239 --> 01:18:55.239
our country. Back, yeah, yeah we, do we.

1489
01:18:55.279 --> 01:18:57.720
Do and you, know AND i mean awareness is important,

1490
01:18:57.720 --> 01:18:59.720
though because we can make changes going. Forward you, KNOW

1491
01:18:59.760 --> 01:19:03.800
i mean This Trump russia collusion. Saga you, know it,

1492
01:19:03.840 --> 01:19:05.640
exposes you, know what the deep state, is and most

1493
01:19:05.680 --> 01:19:07.479
people didn't know about the deep state Until trump came

1494
01:19:07.520 --> 01:19:09.239
on the scene and started talking about. It but you'll

1495
01:19:09.239 --> 01:19:12.159
see the same characters appear throughout this, book and you'll

1496
01:19:12.239 --> 01:19:13.600
understand how it actually works and.

1497
01:19:13.640 --> 01:19:14.079
Operates.

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01:19:14.319 --> 01:19:16.680
Well great job on the, Book clinton, Hoax obama coo

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that he classified story of The Trump russia. Delusion Drew

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Thomas allen book available at all the usual, places right Drim.

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Paperback all, right thanks for being with, Us take, Care god,

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speed my, Friend god bless.

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Back good to have you with. Us Cole martinez, here

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01:23:37.520 --> 01:23:42.000
and we've Got Brian, moody the automotive industry, expert given

1578
01:23:42.039 --> 01:23:46.520
an inside look before the twenty twenty Six New York

1579
01:23:46.520 --> 01:23:51.079
International Auto, show which is bigger than ever before it opens. Up,

1580
01:23:51.119 --> 01:23:52.680
brian welcome the, Show good to.

1581
01:23:52.600 --> 01:23:52.960
Have you with.

1582
01:23:53.039 --> 01:23:54.840
Us, Yeah i'm happy to be.

1583
01:23:54.920 --> 01:23:56.720
Here of, Course The New York Auto show is one

1584
01:23:56.720 --> 01:24:00.399
of those things where you have to experience it really

1585
01:24:00.439 --> 01:24:02.720
in order for me to explain just how big it.

1586
01:24:02.760 --> 01:24:08.640
Is different types of, cars, old, new, shiny all over the, place,

1587
01:24:08.840 --> 01:24:10.760
trends all that kind of stuff here In New.

1588
01:24:10.840 --> 01:24:14.000
York, well and there you, are and we have to

1589
01:24:14.039 --> 01:24:16.720
live vicariously through. You SO i hope it's not. Painful

1590
01:24:16.800 --> 01:24:21.520
thank you so. Much sure for reporting on, this because you,

1591
01:24:21.560 --> 01:24:23.920
know we've got automotive. Company this is a big. THING i,

1592
01:24:23.920 --> 01:24:28.319
mean all the automotive, companies, consumers, enthusiasts they're all excited

1593
01:24:28.359 --> 01:24:30.000
about this big car, show, Right.

1594
01:24:30.439 --> 01:24:32.119
Yes lots of automakers.

1595
01:24:32.119 --> 01:24:36.920
Here the show has been in place FOR i believe

1596
01:24:36.960 --> 01:24:42.000
it started in Nineteen i'm gonna say it's one hundred,

1597
01:24:42.039 --> 01:24:45.359
years one hundred and six years, specifically so nineteen. Hundred

1598
01:24:45.520 --> 01:24:48.439
think about how much cars have changed from nineteen hundred till.

1599
01:24:48.479 --> 01:24:51.159
Now and to commemorate, that they actually have some old

1600
01:24:51.199 --> 01:24:53.680
cars out in the. Front they have an old, cord

1601
01:24:54.600 --> 01:24:57.520
they have An, auburn THEY i believe they may have A,

1602
01:24:57.600 --> 01:24:59.159
duzenberg any of that kind of.

1603
01:24:59.199 --> 01:24:59.359
Thing.

1604
01:24:59.640 --> 01:25:01.840
Packer so they have some old cars from back in

1605
01:25:01.880 --> 01:25:04.039
the day to commemorate that long.

1606
01:25:04.159 --> 01:25:07.359
Anniversary, YEAH i, mean what a.

1607
01:25:07.399 --> 01:25:10.960
Showcase over one hundred and twenty five years the automotive

1608
01:25:11.000 --> 01:25:15.439
history right, there and you're right there walking in the

1609
01:25:15.479 --> 01:25:18.600
aisles and JUST i mean this is just as you,

1610
01:25:18.640 --> 01:25:21.920
know for you as a as an auto, ENTHUSIAST i

1611
01:25:22.000 --> 01:25:24.039
mean you got to be like a kid in a candy.

1612
01:25:24.039 --> 01:25:27.640
STORE i like these shows because there's so much, variety

1613
01:25:28.159 --> 01:25:31.199
and you can look at what automakers are showing in their,

1614
01:25:31.239 --> 01:25:34.359
booth and you can get an idea about what they're

1615
01:25:34.399 --> 01:25:36.800
thinking for the future by the way they position the,

1616
01:25:36.880 --> 01:25:39.439
vehicles by the way of what they chose to, bring

1617
01:25:39.520 --> 01:25:41.359
by the way of what they chose not to. Bring

1618
01:25:41.680 --> 01:25:43.920
so you can get a pretty good idea about where

1619
01:25:43.920 --> 01:25:46.079
the industry is going by just looking at the different

1620
01:25:46.159 --> 01:25:48.600
cars here at the auto. Show and of course for,

1621
01:25:48.720 --> 01:25:52.159
consumers it's an excellent opportunity to come down and any

1622
01:25:52.399 --> 01:25:53.239
any local auto.

1623
01:25:53.239 --> 01:25:54.239
Show The New york one is.

1624
01:25:54.279 --> 01:25:57.680
Big press the, buttons sit in the, seats feel how

1625
01:25:57.760 --> 01:26:00.560
the steering wheel, feels ask questions about the, tech because

1626
01:26:00.560 --> 01:26:01.800
many cars have lots of new.

1627
01:26:01.880 --> 01:26:04.399
Tech all that stuff is stuff that you can do

1628
01:26:04.479 --> 01:26:05.439
at a cool show.

1629
01:26:05.279 --> 01:26:08.199
Like, this, Exactly, brian what's the early buzz on the.

1630
01:26:08.199 --> 01:26:11.119
Floor, well one thing That i've noticed is that there's

1631
01:26:11.520 --> 01:26:14.319
a lot of gasoline powered. Cars now that's always been the.

1632
01:26:14.359 --> 01:26:19.520
Case that's not necessarily a surprising trend because most cars

1633
01:26:19.560 --> 01:26:22.039
are on the road are still gasoline. Powered but what

1634
01:26:22.039 --> 01:26:25.960
we're seeing is a more sensible treatment of electric. Cars

1635
01:26:26.039 --> 01:26:28.560
so there are some electric cars, here but it's not

1636
01:26:29.159 --> 01:26:31.600
dominating like it maybe would have in the past couple of.

1637
01:26:31.640 --> 01:26:35.960
Years there's more gasoline powered. Cars, also in keeping with

1638
01:26:36.239 --> 01:26:41.520
americans tendencies toward, SUVs we're seeing a lot of SUVs

1639
01:26:41.760 --> 01:26:43.800
like the one that's over my. Shoulder that's A Volkswagen,

1640
01:26:43.880 --> 01:26:47.640
atlas completely new, car new, engines three. Rows so that's

1641
01:26:47.680 --> 01:26:50.199
all the stuff That americans have been voting with their.

1642
01:26:50.239 --> 01:26:52.760
Dollars what kind of car do they? Want they want?

1643
01:26:52.840 --> 01:26:56.199
SUVs, yeah what is it about suv? Sales they continue

1644
01:26:56.239 --> 01:26:57.319
to dominate THE us?

1645
01:26:57.359 --> 01:27:01.000
Market, well there's a couple. Things so there's a greater.

1646
01:27:01.119 --> 01:27:04.199
Variety for one, thing it used to just be you

1647
01:27:04.279 --> 01:27:05.640
get like a suburban and that's.

1648
01:27:05.680 --> 01:27:06.600
It that's all there.

1649
01:27:06.680 --> 01:27:09.439
Is but now if you look at so we're you,

1650
01:27:09.479 --> 01:27:13.079
know thankful to be in The volkswagon. Booth just look at.

1651
01:27:13.159 --> 01:27:16.279
Them as an, automaker there's a, small, medium and large.

1652
01:27:16.399 --> 01:27:21.279
Suv other automakers are the same. Way it's the greater

1653
01:27:21.439 --> 01:27:24.479
variety gives people an opportunity to get the type of

1654
01:27:24.560 --> 01:27:26.600
vehicle they, want whether they go off road or.

1655
01:27:26.640 --> 01:27:28.720
Not maybe they drive in, snow.

1656
01:27:28.760 --> 01:27:31.640
Maybe they just have kids with soccer practice and they

1657
01:27:31.680 --> 01:27:34.640
need the extra space in the. Back so that trend is,

1658
01:27:34.720 --> 01:27:37.119
continuing and you can see it by the types of

1659
01:27:37.199 --> 01:27:39.439
vehicles that are parked here on the show, floor That

1660
01:27:39.560 --> 01:27:40.479
atlas being one of.

1661
01:27:40.479 --> 01:27:45.119
Them exactly what other trends are you seeing that are capturing, Attention?

1662
01:27:45.319 --> 01:27:46.800
Brian more.

1663
01:27:46.880 --> 01:27:51.479
TECHNOLOGY i think more people are looking at in car

1664
01:27:51.640 --> 01:27:55.479
tech and how that can make their life. Better some

1665
01:27:55.560 --> 01:27:58.000
drivers have said they want smaller screens and they want

1666
01:27:58.039 --> 01:27:58.399
more hard.

1667
01:27:58.439 --> 01:27:59.760
Buttons that's kind of a.

1668
01:27:59.760 --> 01:28:02.399
Trend but if you look at the tech of a,

1669
01:28:02.479 --> 01:28:07.600
car it shows that more cars now have driver assists.

1670
01:28:07.640 --> 01:28:10.520
Technology so again we're standing in The volkswagen.

1671
01:28:10.600 --> 01:28:11.239
Booth they have.

1672
01:28:12.680 --> 01:28:16.199
A traffic stop and go traffic assist where the car

1673
01:28:16.239 --> 01:28:18.840
will automatically manage that for you its eyes on the,

1674
01:28:18.880 --> 01:28:21.720
road hands on the wheel. Technology but that type of

1675
01:28:21.840 --> 01:28:24.439
driver assists technology that keeps you in the center of

1676
01:28:24.439 --> 01:28:28.800
the lane and steers with you as you, drive that's

1677
01:28:28.800 --> 01:28:31.920
a big trend because it makes people's lives. Easier what

1678
01:28:32.000 --> 01:28:34.840
we're not talking about really is like the self driving.

1679
01:28:34.920 --> 01:28:38.119
Car that's the robotaxi. Thing that's not what we're.

1680
01:28:38.119 --> 01:28:41.319
Seeing what we're seeing is more assist features to make

1681
01:28:41.439 --> 01:28:44.359
driving a long distance or driving around town a little

1682
01:28:44.399 --> 01:28:44.880
bit less.

1683
01:28:44.920 --> 01:28:50.880
Fatiguing what's still laying the? Robotechnology is it a technological,

1684
01:28:50.920 --> 01:28:55.159
issue a confidence issue with the? Consumers you, know what

1685
01:28:55.199 --> 01:28:55.760
do you see on?

1686
01:28:55.800 --> 01:28:55.920
That?

1687
01:28:55.960 --> 01:28:58.159
Brian, well there's technological.

1688
01:28:58.199 --> 01:29:02.560
Limitations there's also so the idea that if a car

1689
01:29:02.680 --> 01:29:06.880
is completely self, driving it has to make decisions that

1690
01:29:07.920 --> 01:29:10.960
maybe humans are better to make those, decisions and so

1691
01:29:11.159 --> 01:29:14.640
that hasn't quite caught. UP i think people use the

1692
01:29:14.640 --> 01:29:19.239
word autonomous. Incorrectly so for, example what we're talking about

1693
01:29:19.319 --> 01:29:22.920
really is automated. Driving, right you're taking the functions of

1694
01:29:23.000 --> 01:29:27.960
driving and you're automating. Them autonomous would be completely individual

1695
01:29:28.000 --> 01:29:31.239
of the. Driver you, know you, say, OH i want

1696
01:29:31.239 --> 01:29:33.000
to go to work and the car, says, Oh i'd

1697
01:29:33.079 --> 01:29:37.159
rather go to the. Beach that's, autonomous, right that's completely autonomous.

1698
01:29:37.199 --> 01:29:39.680
Behavior, yes we don't have. That we have.

1699
01:29:39.920 --> 01:29:42.560
Automated so automated keeps you in the center of the.

1700
01:29:42.640 --> 01:29:45.800
Lane automated keeps you from leaving your lane while you're

1701
01:29:45.800 --> 01:29:48.920
not paying. Attention automated bounces you back in between the.

1702
01:29:48.920 --> 01:29:51.520
Lines those things are things that we're seeing more, of

1703
01:29:52.000 --> 01:29:54.800
not so, Much, oh the car drives, itself right.

1704
01:29:54.880 --> 01:29:58.840
Exactly we're talking With Brian, moody independent automotive, expert analysts

1705
01:29:58.840 --> 01:30:04.640
and media contributors visualizing in, hybrids electric, cars and general consumer. Advice,

1706
01:30:05.079 --> 01:30:10.119
brian what has surprised? You is anything surprised you so?

1707
01:30:10.239 --> 01:30:16.159
FAR i don't know about, surprise BUT i think.

1708
01:30:17.600 --> 01:30:19.920
There's one thing That i've noticed is, that, like it's

1709
01:30:20.000 --> 01:30:24.720
hard to go against the grain when it comes to consumer. Preference,

1710
01:30:24.920 --> 01:30:27.560
right so we can hear all of this talk about,

1711
01:30:27.600 --> 01:30:29.880
well people should be driving, this and they should be driving.

1712
01:30:29.880 --> 01:30:34.600
That North america specifically THE, Us, canada And mexico are

1713
01:30:34.800 --> 01:30:37.920
very different places in the rest of the. World it's very,

1714
01:30:38.199 --> 01:30:41.640
large there's open, space there's all different kinds of, weather

1715
01:30:42.039 --> 01:30:45.119
there's lots of, snow there's all different kinds of.

1716
01:30:45.199 --> 01:30:47.039
Roads and again.

1717
01:30:46.840 --> 01:30:51.239
Back to THE suv, Thing americans have shown those types

1718
01:30:51.279 --> 01:30:54.279
of vehicles are the exact type of vehicles that they're looking.

1719
01:30:54.319 --> 01:30:58.159
FOR i, mean you, know we had a trend there

1720
01:30:58.159 --> 01:31:00.159
for a, while as you, know we were moving away

1721
01:31:00.159 --> 01:31:02.199
from big, cars but big cars have come back in

1722
01:31:02.239 --> 01:31:02.800
a big, way.

1723
01:31:02.920 --> 01:31:06.640
Right, well one thing that you can notice and exemplified

1724
01:31:06.640 --> 01:31:09.359
by The Volkswagen, atlas it has a.

1725
01:31:09.319 --> 01:31:11.800
Smaller engine than say in years.

1726
01:31:11.800 --> 01:31:13.880
Past, Right so in the years past we would SEE

1727
01:31:13.960 --> 01:31:16.079
v six's and vas and that kind of. Stuff now

1728
01:31:16.159 --> 01:31:19.680
what we're seeing is smaller engines in terms of, displacement

1729
01:31:20.119 --> 01:31:22.520
but greater output with greater.

1730
01:31:22.600 --> 01:31:25.199
Efficiency so that type of.

1731
01:31:25.159 --> 01:31:25.560
Thing.

1732
01:31:26.920 --> 01:31:32.279
Small, engine high, output greater, efficiency uses the existing fueling.

1733
01:31:32.399 --> 01:31:33.199
Infrastructure.

1734
01:31:33.359 --> 01:31:35.520
Right it doesn't require that you charge it up, someplace

1735
01:31:35.960 --> 01:31:38.800
but it burns less, gas which means cleaner, air and

1736
01:31:38.840 --> 01:31:41.239
the less gas you, use the better it is for the.

1737
01:31:41.359 --> 01:31:41.800
Environment.

1738
01:31:42.399 --> 01:31:46.199
Exactly, Well, brian any last minute tips that you want

1739
01:31:46.239 --> 01:31:46.960
to share with us.

1740
01:31:46.840 --> 01:31:48.920
Here, YEAH i think if people are going to the

1741
01:31:48.960 --> 01:31:52.600
various auto shows in their hometown across the, country make

1742
01:31:52.640 --> 01:31:55.119
sure that you assess what your needs are before you

1743
01:31:55.199 --> 01:31:57.279
decide to go on a test, drive and you can

1744
01:31:57.399 --> 01:32:01.600
use lots of great online. Resources you can visit those

1745
01:32:01.640 --> 01:32:04.359
websites and find car reviews and videos and all that

1746
01:32:04.439 --> 01:32:06.720
kind of. Stuff for the car that we've been talking,

1747
01:32:06.760 --> 01:32:09.359
about you can go TO vw dot com slash at

1748
01:32:09.359 --> 01:32:11.359
list that will give you all the. Information but of

1749
01:32:11.399 --> 01:32:16.439
course many other SUVs in those categories might do the

1750
01:32:16.560 --> 01:32:16.920
job as.

1751
01:32:16.920 --> 01:32:21.199
Well, well you, know it's all an, adventure isn't, it

1752
01:32:21.239 --> 01:32:25.119
with all the choices that are, Available, BRIAN i, MEAN i,

1753
01:32:25.159 --> 01:32:27.640
mean of, course when you're in a show like this

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01:32:27.760 --> 01:32:30.840
where everything is all, together, boy you can have a

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01:32:30.840 --> 01:32:33.119
lot of fun and capture a lot of information that

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01:32:33.159 --> 01:32:36.680
would be advantageous for your next. Choice, right, yeah, exactly, right,

1757
01:32:37.399 --> 01:32:39.840
right all, Right, well as we wrap things, up let's

1758
01:32:39.920 --> 01:32:42.520
remind everybody where they can go for more, Information Brian.

1759
01:32:42.520 --> 01:32:44.239
Mooting for more, information you can go to The New

1760
01:32:44.279 --> 01:32:46.840
York Auto shows, website or you can go TO vw dot,

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01:32:46.840 --> 01:32:47.479
Com Slash.

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01:32:47.560 --> 01:32:48.239
Atlas.

1763
01:32:48.560 --> 01:32:52.039
Well Brian moody the independent automotive, expert analysts and media.

1764
01:32:52.079 --> 01:32:55.960
Contributor he specializes in, hybrid's electric cars and general consumer.

1765
01:32:56.000 --> 01:33:00.199
Advice he's a former executive editor For Cox. Automotive and

1766
01:33:00.239 --> 01:33:02.319
thank you so, much appreciate the, Time take, care be,

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which Is. Idaho which? HAPPENS i gotta tell, You Gary,

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SHOEMAKER i Love. IDAHO i Love idaho's baked potatoes because

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you got the Best you got the best potatoes In.

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Idaho, yeah we got good potatoes.

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Here, yeah no doubt about. It i'll tell you the

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first TIME i went To idaho and had a baked potato,

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There i'm, going where have you been hiding all my?

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you coming. On you, know AS i said to the,

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01:37:45.479 --> 01:37:49.800
audience you activated your citizenship and are doing something about

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01:37:49.840 --> 01:37:54.159
the fraud that you happen to find just happenstantially what

1856
01:37:54.319 --> 01:37:54.560
on the.

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01:37:54.600 --> 01:37:58.000
Internet, yeah there's a guy who owns a saloon In,

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01:37:58.119 --> 01:38:02.560
Egle idaho Named. Mark he's running for governor and before

1859
01:38:02.600 --> 01:38:05.720
he was running for. Governor he found fraud at daycares

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01:38:05.840 --> 01:38:10.600
in the valley here in Boisean meridian, area and he

1861
01:38:10.680 --> 01:38:13.119
went to several daycares that are no longer in existence

1862
01:38:13.359 --> 01:38:15.800
and found that they weren't in existence to begin, with

1863
01:38:16.199 --> 01:38:18.800
much like the daycares In minnesota.

1864
01:38:19.319 --> 01:38:22.479
Exactly so is it more of the, same like you,

1865
01:38:22.520 --> 01:38:24.119
said is it following the same?

1866
01:38:24.159 --> 01:38:28.159
Pattern is it's exactly the same? Pattern exactly the same.

1867
01:38:28.199 --> 01:38:30.800
Pattern well kind of fraud where you're talking, about this

1868
01:38:30.840 --> 01:38:32.399
thing has been going on since the nineteen.

1869
01:38:32.479 --> 01:38:35.399
Nineties you, said, right, yeah, yeah it's been going on

1870
01:38:35.439 --> 01:38:38.359
for a long. Time i'm specifically focused on the year

1871
01:38:38.520 --> 01:38:42.520
twenty twenty one to twenty twenty. Four in twenty twenty,

1872
01:38:42.520 --> 01:38:45.119
five the state Of idaho made a rule change and

1873
01:38:45.199 --> 01:38:49.399
all the daycares receiving federal funds had to get state.

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01:38:49.439 --> 01:38:53.600
Permission so in twenty twenty two through twenty twenty, four

1875
01:38:53.640 --> 01:38:56.720
there were eleven hundred and thirty six daycares and when

1876
01:38:56.720 --> 01:38:58.520
they made the rule, change it dropped down to seven

1877
01:38:58.560 --> 01:39:01.199
hundred and seventy five Daycare so there was a three

1878
01:39:01.319 --> 01:39:05.079
hundred and sixty total loss of daycares receiving. Funds when

1879
01:39:05.079 --> 01:39:08.199
they made that rule. Change so they did a three

1880
01:39:08.319 --> 01:39:12.159
hundred and sixty degree audit a last month and they

1881
01:39:12.159 --> 01:39:14.920
didn't find any of this. Fraud SO i brought This,

1882
01:39:15.560 --> 01:39:17.520
yeah because they didn't look.

1883
01:39:17.560 --> 01:39:19.199
Back they only looked at current.

1884
01:39:19.279 --> 01:39:23.640
Daycares SO i went to my, governor the attorney, general my,

1885
01:39:23.760 --> 01:39:28.079
CONGRESSMAN i went to the state, POLICE i went to THE.

1886
01:39:28.159 --> 01:39:34.640
Fbi nobody is interested in going back and recovering over

1887
01:39:34.680 --> 01:39:36.479
one hundred million dollars in.

1888
01:39:36.840 --> 01:39:41.560
Fraud probably at least who's running these, daycares it's Mainly.

1889
01:39:41.600 --> 01:39:44.479
Smalia m.

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01:39:44.520 --> 01:39:44.640
Hm.

1891
01:39:44.800 --> 01:39:46.920
YEAH i didn't even think we had A somali population

1892
01:39:47.000 --> 01:39:50.880
here In, idaho but we, do and it the names Are.

1893
01:39:50.880 --> 01:39:53.800
Somali we cross reference to the.

1894
01:39:53.840 --> 01:39:57.199
List they're not registered as businesses with The secretary Of

1895
01:39:57.239 --> 01:40:02.920
state Of, idaho but they did get licensed as daycares

1896
01:40:03.319 --> 01:40:06.840
through the city Of, boise and in the city Of

1897
01:40:06.880 --> 01:40:10.920
boise we have a democratic. Mayor and so WHAT i

1898
01:40:10.920 --> 01:40:14.239
think it's following the same line of The NGOs get

1899
01:40:14.279 --> 01:40:17.960
hold of The somalis when they immigrate and they teach

1900
01:40:18.039 --> 01:40:20.880
them how to open up daycares and.

1901
01:40:21.079 --> 01:40:22.800
Fraud the system is a.

1902
01:40:22.840 --> 01:40:23.600
Franchise it's a.

1903
01:40:23.640 --> 01:40:27.800
Franchise, yeah AND i bet it's happening in every city

1904
01:40:27.840 --> 01:40:29.920
in every state In, america.

1905
01:40:30.359 --> 01:40:36.159
Whether or not it's occupied By. Somalis they are just

1906
01:40:36.199 --> 01:40:39.600
doing business as and they figured out the system and,

1907
01:40:39.640 --> 01:40:42.000
so LIKE i, said this has turned into a franchise.

1908
01:40:42.039 --> 01:40:47.560
Operation, yes and it's astonishing that the, governor the attorney,

1909
01:40:47.600 --> 01:40:51.399
general and my congressman don't want anything to do with

1910
01:40:51.520 --> 01:40:54.079
looking back at the. FRAUD i think it's because they

1911
01:40:54.079 --> 01:40:55.920
think that they won't get the same amount of. Money

1912
01:40:56.439 --> 01:41:01.399
idaho gets almost three point twenty seven billion dollars in

1913
01:41:01.560 --> 01:41:06.119
medicaid and federal funding each, year and that is like

1914
01:41:06.199 --> 01:41:08.640
the largest income our state.

1915
01:41:08.680 --> 01:41:10.600
Gets so if they were to take a.

1916
01:41:10.600 --> 01:41:13.000
Chunk out of that by going back and, saying, hey

1917
01:41:13.520 --> 01:41:16.199
one hundred million or more is, fraud they wouldn't get

1918
01:41:16.279 --> 01:41:20.319
that money from the federal. Government so they're actively hiding the.

1919
01:41:20.359 --> 01:41:24.000
Fraud, well and the question we've always, Had gary is

1920
01:41:24.000 --> 01:41:26.720
that how much of that fraud is going to politicians

1921
01:41:26.760 --> 01:41:27.399
back pocket?

1922
01:41:27.960 --> 01:41:31.239
Exactly And i'm not accusing anybody of, that but it

1923
01:41:31.479 --> 01:41:34.640
sure it sure makes you ask question more questions when

1924
01:41:35.000 --> 01:41:38.720
your government fails to address the issue that you bring

1925
01:41:38.800 --> 01:41:42.239
to them of, fraud and it's it's it's.

1926
01:41:42.279 --> 01:41:43.119
BLATANT i mean when.

1927
01:41:43.039 --> 01:41:44.920
You have thirty six daycares that all of a sudden

1928
01:41:45.000 --> 01:41:47.680
disappear when they change the, RULES i, mean.

1929
01:41:47.640 --> 01:41:49.960
Where did those three hundred and sixty daycares? Go?

1930
01:41:50.319 --> 01:41:51.159
Yeah where did the kids?

1931
01:41:51.239 --> 01:41:51.399
Go?

1932
01:41:51.840 --> 01:41:52.359
Yeah where?

1933
01:41:52.359 --> 01:41:54.920
Did where did all the need for those daycares? Go

1934
01:41:55.239 --> 01:41:59.920
and these are just NUMBERS i got off publicly available, documents.

1935
01:42:00.359 --> 01:42:01.920
So it wasn't like you had to do any kind

1936
01:42:01.920 --> 01:42:05.239
of deep down research or anything like. That are you

1937
01:42:05.319 --> 01:42:08.000
surprised at the lack of curiosity of the local media

1938
01:42:08.079 --> 01:42:08.680
to pick up on?

1939
01:42:08.720 --> 01:42:08.880
This?

1940
01:42:09.359 --> 01:42:13.520
YEAH i contacted News channel, seven News channel six here

1941
01:42:13.560 --> 01:42:17.039
in the local area that contacted The Idaho. Statesman they're

1942
01:42:17.039 --> 01:42:20.600
all liberal rags and they don't want to shine a

1943
01:42:20.680 --> 01:42:22.880
light on anything that could.

1944
01:42:24.119 --> 01:42:26.039
Affect social. PROGRAMS i, think.

1945
01:42:26.520 --> 01:42:29.239
Yeah, well like you, said it is all about The

1946
01:42:29.279 --> 01:42:33.800
benjamins and they're getting a lot of, money and fraud

1947
01:42:33.840 --> 01:42:37.199
doesn't mean. Anything but see the deal that frustrates, Us

1948
01:42:37.279 --> 01:42:40.119
and what we report on the show is that once

1949
01:42:40.119 --> 01:42:46.079
you start embracing a, lot you compromise, everything and it's

1950
01:42:46.199 --> 01:42:50.119
like a contagion that infects the entire. Culture because then

1951
01:42:50.520 --> 01:42:55.119
what citizens who would normally be law abiding, Figure, well,

1952
01:42:55.159 --> 01:42:57.560
heck they're doing. It you, know they're, stealing and nobody's saying.

1953
01:42:57.560 --> 01:42:59.840
Anything so why SHOULDN'T i? Steal why are they giving

1954
01:42:59.840 --> 01:43:00.560
me a bad? Time?

1955
01:43:00.640 --> 01:43:00.840
Right?

1956
01:43:01.439 --> 01:43:02.079
YEAH i work.

1957
01:43:02.119 --> 01:43:05.079
HARD i own a very small, business run it out

1958
01:43:05.119 --> 01:43:07.800
of my, garage and it's it's tough for me to

1959
01:43:08.279 --> 01:43:11.079
maintain and pay taxes and do the right. Things but

1960
01:43:11.119 --> 01:43:13.600
IF i KNEW i could open up a daycare five years,

1961
01:43:13.640 --> 01:43:15.800
ago some of these places were running out of their,

1962
01:43:15.800 --> 01:43:17.479
homes getting four hundred thousand.

1963
01:43:17.239 --> 01:43:18.119
Dollars in a.

1964
01:43:18.199 --> 01:43:21.399
Year, wow four hundred thousand dollars a year to run

1965
01:43:21.479 --> 01:43:22.359
a daycare that wasn't.

1966
01:43:22.399 --> 01:43:25.279
Real and how many how many daycares were in operation

1967
01:43:25.399 --> 01:43:26.479
until they came up with the new.

1968
01:43:26.520 --> 01:43:31.960
Laws there was one and thirty six daycares in the

1969
01:43:31.960 --> 01:43:34.079
state Of, idaho and when they came up with the

1970
01:43:34.079 --> 01:43:36.720
new laws in twenty twenty, five it dropped down to

1971
01:43:36.760 --> 01:43:37.880
seven hundred and seventy.

1972
01:43:38.039 --> 01:43:38.359
Six.

1973
01:43:39.680 --> 01:43:40.000
Wow.

1974
01:43:41.479 --> 01:43:46.680
Unbelievable and you say in your, research even though you

1975
01:43:46.680 --> 01:43:50.000
you focused on twenty one to twenty, Four, uh you

1976
01:43:50.039 --> 01:43:53.720
had found that this program that they've been running off

1977
01:43:53.760 --> 01:43:55.399
of has existed since the.

1978
01:43:55.520 --> 01:43:58.880
Nineties, yeah, yeah it pretty much. Has and it's it's

1979
01:43:58.880 --> 01:44:02.520
harder to go back. Further but there's nothing saying that

1980
01:44:02.520 --> 01:44:06.720
that this this grift hasn't been going on since since.

1981
01:44:06.760 --> 01:44:10.439
Forever and why is it that The attorney general cannot

1982
01:44:10.720 --> 01:44:13.079
prosecute daycare? Fraud? What what's all that.

1983
01:44:13.119 --> 01:44:17.399
About the Attorney WHAT i got from secondhand sources is

1984
01:44:17.439 --> 01:44:20.399
The Attorney general says it's up to the governor of

1985
01:44:20.399 --> 01:44:23.479
the state of The, Idaho state Of idaho to prosecute

1986
01:44:23.880 --> 01:44:25.720
or to look into. It so the governor of the

1987
01:44:25.720 --> 01:44:27.880
State idaho looked into, it but he had The health

1988
01:44:27.960 --> 01:44:34.119
And Welfare department investigate, themselves and they're the one perpetrating the.

1989
01:44:34.199 --> 01:44:40.800
Fraud so the criminal gets to investigate their criminality only In.

1990
01:44:40.840 --> 01:44:43.600
Idaho BUT i say only In idaho right. Now BUT i,

1991
01:44:43.600 --> 01:44:47.359
mean this is a, disease a contagion that is spread,

1992
01:44:47.399 --> 01:44:51.800
out and there seems to be some, consistencies and that

1993
01:44:52.000 --> 01:44:56.680
is that democratically controlled states seem to be the ones

1994
01:44:57.079 --> 01:44:58.720
that embrace this kind of.

1995
01:44:58.800 --> 01:45:03.399
Fraud, yeah and we're A republican controlled state with a

1996
01:45:03.439 --> 01:45:07.119
democratic mayor that were most of the fraud. Occurred but

1997
01:45:07.439 --> 01:45:09.680
The republicans don't want to deal with it because they

1998
01:45:09.680 --> 01:45:11.560
don't want to look. Bad they don't want to say

1999
01:45:11.560 --> 01:45:13.800
that this happened in our. State they don't want to

2000
01:45:13.840 --> 01:45:17.039
say we weren't paying. ATTENTION i will just Take Governor Gavin.

2001
01:45:17.079 --> 01:45:21.880
Newsom he's facing it right now In california and he's

2002
01:45:21.920 --> 01:45:24.520
getting the. Attention but they think here In idaho that

2003
01:45:24.520 --> 01:45:26.760
they're not going to get the. Attention AND i and you,

2004
01:45:26.800 --> 01:45:29.359
KNOW i spent the last six months trying to bring

2005
01:45:29.399 --> 01:45:32.680
this to attention to, people And i've been very frustrated

2006
01:45:32.800 --> 01:45:33.399
and it's very.

2007
01:45:33.439 --> 01:45:37.119
Hard, WELL i bet now you've been kind of a

2008
01:45:37.159 --> 01:45:39.199
one man. Banner are you getting any kind of support

2009
01:45:39.239 --> 01:45:42.279
from other you, know small businesses who see the fraud

2010
01:45:42.319 --> 01:45:42.720
that's going.

2011
01:45:42.760 --> 01:45:46.359
On, yeah The Old State, saloon the Owner mark he's

2012
01:45:46.399 --> 01:45:49.720
he's doing a great. Job there's a couple other people

2013
01:45:49.720 --> 01:45:54.920
that have brought it to those state legislatures, attention but

2014
01:45:55.119 --> 01:45:59.000
they just voted down a bill that would have addressed.

2015
01:45:59.000 --> 01:46:02.920
It and so it makes you think how many of

2016
01:46:02.960 --> 01:46:03.760
them are in on it?

2017
01:46:04.199 --> 01:46:05.960
Right, well like you, said it's a bit of a

2018
01:46:05.960 --> 01:46:09.239
double edged, sword you, know because if they go ahead

2019
01:46:09.279 --> 01:46:12.439
and address this in some, ways you, know people would

2020
01:46:12.479 --> 01:46:15.319
see it as shooting themselves in the. Foot this could

2021
01:46:15.439 --> 01:46:19.479
mean less. Dollars BUT i guess the truth doesn't, matter

2022
01:46:20.119 --> 01:46:23.239
and you, know and this is what. HAPPENS i, mean

2023
01:46:24.039 --> 01:46:27.560
it's going to be reconciled somewhere at some, point you,

2024
01:46:27.560 --> 01:46:30.640
know it always. Does the truth comes. Out and so

2025
01:46:30.720 --> 01:46:33.520
it's like that Old pens oil commercial, says you can

2026
01:46:33.520 --> 01:46:36.079
pay me now or pay me. Later and the thing

2027
01:46:36.159 --> 01:46:40.359
is about people who lie in deception is oftentimes the

2028
01:46:40.359 --> 01:46:43.560
payment later is much more expensive and, dire isn't.

2029
01:46:43.560 --> 01:46:48.119
It, yeah it, is and your credibility really goes, downhill

2030
01:46:48.199 --> 01:46:51.760
especially if you're government. Official when someone like, ME i

2031
01:46:51.880 --> 01:46:53.960
was just addressing it with, them trying to bring it

2032
01:46:54.000 --> 01:46:56.520
to their, attention AND i got. STONEWALLED i literally got.

2033
01:46:56.560 --> 01:47:00.600
Stonewalled AND i think they've investigated my business AND i

2034
01:47:00.640 --> 01:47:04.159
have some tax issues that are are going on right

2035
01:47:04.199 --> 01:47:07.520
now That i've paid all my, taxes but they're investigating

2036
01:47:07.560 --> 01:47:12.439
me for tax, purposes use attacks, sales use tax and

2037
01:47:12.439 --> 01:47:14.000
they're Investigating mark as well.

2038
01:47:14.039 --> 01:47:14.279
Too.

2039
01:47:14.840 --> 01:47:19.920
Right, well you, know, lawfair you, know has just been

2040
01:47:19.960 --> 01:47:23.439
the order of the day in the last well ever

2041
01:47:23.479 --> 01:47:26.920
Since trump got. ELECTED i guess you, know the different

2042
01:47:27.760 --> 01:47:31.079
justice departments you, know around the country have found ways

2043
01:47:31.119 --> 01:47:34.600
to attack their enemy and they've you, know even though

2044
01:47:34.600 --> 01:47:37.720
they'll complain about law fair existing when it comes on.

2045
01:47:37.840 --> 01:47:41.079
Them but this is this is where we are right, now.

2046
01:47:41.079 --> 01:47:47.600
Sadly and you, Know, GARY i appreciate your belief in

2047
01:47:47.640 --> 01:47:52.000
our constitution and doing the right, thing and citizens like

2048
01:47:52.039 --> 01:47:54.960
yourself should be, rewarded you, know for this kind of,

2049
01:47:54.960 --> 01:47:59.800
behavior not. Attacked and you, KNOW i think that some

2050
01:48:00.000 --> 01:48:02.399
times what happens and these people find out. Later but

2051
01:48:02.439 --> 01:48:06.600
what upsets me is, that you, know you may have

2052
01:48:06.640 --> 01:48:09.000
to deal with a lawsuit down the, road but then

2053
01:48:09.000 --> 01:48:11.039
it's your neighbors that are paying the, lawsuit not the

2054
01:48:11.119 --> 01:48:13.119
knuckleheads that perpetrated the problem to begin.

2055
01:48:13.199 --> 01:48:16.840
With, yeah, yeah it's unfortunately the taxpayer is the one

2056
01:48:16.960 --> 01:48:19.640
who truly pays in this whole, situation not only in

2057
01:48:19.640 --> 01:48:23.760
the original, fraud but in the continuation of the cover

2058
01:48:23.840 --> 01:48:24.159
up of the.

2059
01:48:24.159 --> 01:48:26.800
Fraud, Well, gary we got to wrap things up. AGAIN

2060
01:48:27.000 --> 01:48:29.119
i thank, you you know for coming on and telling your.

2061
01:48:29.159 --> 01:48:31.560
Story how can people be in touch or is there

2062
01:48:31.560 --> 01:48:34.079
a website that they can go and and you, know

2063
01:48:35.319 --> 01:48:36.880
join in on you and support the.

2064
01:48:36.920 --> 01:48:38.880
Cause, well they can get ON x and go To

2065
01:48:39.039 --> 01:48:43.000
Old State saloon ON x At Old State saloon and

2066
01:48:43.039 --> 01:48:45.560
then they can get all the information about this that they.

2067
01:48:45.600 --> 01:48:48.239
Need well check it. Out Gary, schumaker thank you for

2068
01:48:48.239 --> 01:48:49.439
being with. Us take, CARE i have a great.

2069
01:48:49.479 --> 01:48:50.960
Day thank, You, Bill appreciate. You.

2070
01:48:51.039 --> 01:48:54.439
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