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0:00 Are you ready? Okay? Us do an Ill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and our future. And now Bill Martinez. Hey, good morning America. Glad you could join us. Bill Martinez here with our good friend Ken Abramowitz. Ken is a national security analyst, author of Multi Front War and he joins us. Now, Ken, good morning to you. Well, great to have you here with us. What what what's going on with NATO? I mean, how to not influence friends and make allies.

0:41 Huh, it's very, very bizarre when you think of all that we've done for Europe. By the way, Europe was the birthplace of America, all right, So Europe did a lot for us, so to speak in the early days. But we helped them obviously in World War One, we helped them in World War Two, we helped them in Ukraine. And so we were always there for Europe. Well, I won't say always we sometimes there's a delay. You know, we waited till Pearl Harbor until we helped Europe, so they were we did not help them for about a year or so, but in World War Two. But anyways, in general we've been there for Europe. And President John publicly said this. He says it was a test. I didn't really need NATO, but I gave them a little test and they failed. Yeah, exactly.

1:36 Well, and like you say, Kenneth, the other thing too, is less we forget how much money the United States has supported, has put in and supported NATO. And it was only you know which Trump you know, coming in in the first term, saying hey, guys, it's time to pay your fair share. Right. Yes, you look, we paid with money. We was also played paid with blood. Yeah exactly. Any movies we've seen about World War Two are starving the beaches of Normandy. You know, our brave soldiers, so blood and treasure went into protecting Europe from Russia and and we're still needed to this day.

2:16 So do you anticipate, because I do a bit of a passive. I don't know if you want to call it a tax or a tariff. I mean, of course we have to be careful in using the tariff word because you got activist judges and you know, and our Congress getting upset about the term tariffs. But some sort of penalty against these NATO countries, you know, not to mention England that was late in coming and allowing us to use some air bases. Macron, you know, acting like, oh, he wanted nothing to do with this, and other NATO nations and you know their lack of participation. I see, I see Trump exercising maybe some international retribution down the road.

3:00 What do you think? I agree one hundred percent, But there's a couple of ways to do it. One way to do it is retribution against NATO and funding and issues like that. I prefer an alternative which hasn't yet made it into the press or into President Trump's formal comments. Maybe it's in his head, but he hasn't enunciated yet. I would go after the governments behind NATO, in other words, England and France. Where were you nowhere to be found? And I think we should try to destabilize the government of England and France in particular because they also have nuclear weapons. And I hate to say this but publicly call for regime change in England and France. I think that's the best retribution rather than going after NATO, which we need in NATO structure, we just not with the current losers running the various countries.

3:58 Well, England is a hot mess anyway. I mean with the migration issue that they've been dealing with in some of their policies, it's clear they kind of remind me of a cow out and the prairies, you know, where the guys. Would you go out there and tip over the cows. This wouldn't take much effort to tip over that government because they seem to be very lopsided right now in their policies. I mean, look what they're doing with the farmers in that Canada. No, I agree one hundred percent. By the way, NATO should have had two functions. It only has one function, namely protect Europe from Russia, and it has a side function of support America like Afghanistan, Iraq or the Iran war.

4:41 That's the sort of a side responsibility. But the major responsibility they should have had but didn't, was to save Europe from an Islamic invasion exactly. That was never added to NATO responsibilities. So therefore it's country by country responsibilities. The countries by countries are failing and we have to fix that mess for them and indirectly for us. And who at who's expense? Kenneth, well, at the expense of the Islamic invasion. But that's the. Same, but it's going to cost some money in order to do that. And you know these guys are going to come out with their hands out begging for help.

5:25 Not to mention the fact. I mean, you said something really important here, and I want our audience to get a hold of this because this is something that has been brought to the forefront in the last couple of weeks on the show, and that is with the increased migration of Muslim activity, particularly in England. And you mentioned a nuclear weapon. They have nuclear weapon. Who cares if Iran doesn't have a nuclear bomb, they can go and borrow one from England. Yes, in a generation or so. In other words, this is the mess for our kids and grandkids, and a generation or two they're going to confront the issue of I hate to say this, should we send Marines to invade England and France to secure the nuclear weapons so that the Islamic governments taking over won't have them? I mean, can you imagine that conversation. So that's why I don't like sticking kids and grandkids with the mess that we should fix. So I think it's our generation has to fix the mess, not shove it off to the kids and so that's why we have to do something about England and France. From a government point of view, that's the retribution to NATO directly, but to the countries part of NATO who aren't doing their jobs.

6:40 Well, this really demands leadership, and America has been leading the way, and you know, Donald Trump in a sense has been doing this in spite of all the resistance you know from the left that you and I've been talking about in the last couple of conversations that we had. And I mean, America really has to solidify. I say, America is a country. We the people have to solidify our position because you know, the time is now, Kenneth, as you say, to address these issues. The reason they're so complicated right now is because they've been kicked down the road for decades. That's exactly right. So now we're stuck holding the back.

7:22 Our generation is stuck holding the back. Just as President Shopman Prime Minister Natanyahu suffered from forty seven years of NonStop mistakes and refusing to confront a terrant organization that publicly call for the elimination of America and Israel, and only forty seven years later, both countries say, oh we have to do something. Okay, So anyways, but we have to confront England and France. We have to say to them, you have to close your borders. Like now we did it, you have to do it. Number two, you have to dt port as I call any member of the Islamo Nazi death cult or anyone who incites for genocide. Those are code words that I look for. And if someone does that, they don't. They don't belong in your country, you know. Can you imagine if just pretend I flew from Florida to Toronto and say, oh, I want to be a resident of Canada, I want to become mayor, and then I want to kill everyone everyone in Canada.

8:28 They go, what here their one way ticket, go back to Florida. We don't want to hear from this guy ever again. Okay, so we have to become tough on England and France. Yeah, Canada would take a real quick pause and send you back, no doubt about it, but probably send you to New York because it seems like New York would be more open to address this issue. We've got to go to quick break. Stay with us. We've got more from Kennatha Brahmawich, the National Security Analyst, author of the Multi Front War Defending a Mayormerica from political Islam, China, Russia, pandemics and racial strife. That's only for starters. Okay, so anyway more from Kenneth after this stay with us.

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14:11 He's the founder of Save the West dot com. It's a website dedicated to saving Western civilization from itself. You know, we were just talking about, you know, the targets overseas that America needs to have in focus right now in terms of, you know, demanding that these governments wise up and see, you know, follow Trump's lead. You know, Trump has been right, you know, like the hat says, you know, I say, almost in everything, but he's not far off because time and again resist him and argue against him. And you may not like his style. But the results, I'll tell you I like a lot.

14:53 That's he has wonderful insights. He's right like ninety percent of the time. And by the way, in business, no one's right ninety percent of the time. In politics, no one's right ninety percent of the time. So but being being a human, he can't be right one hundred percent of the time. Humans are never right one hundred percent of the time. But he's as good as they get, and even better than as good as we get. In terms of political leaders well. You know, speaking of politics, what does that say about our politics that somebody could come in and be right about it ninety percent of the time. It just tells you how messed up our political establishment is.

15:35 Now bear somebody mind is an inherent problem with being a politician, and that is and President Trump's has publicly said some things along these lines. There's two forces on a president. I mean there's more, but pretend that there's two. One is the way the people, the public. They have to get elected or they need other parts of their party to get elected and there or they have to think short term. You know, oh, November or two years after November. That's short term. But simultaneously, a president, Trump is also a husband, a father, a grandfather, so he also has to think a hundred years in the future, what's the future for my kids and grandkids? How about everybody's kids and grandkids. And he's balancing off the human desire to protect America for hundred or hundreds of years versus the political desire to get to have a favorable election in November, which isn't so far away.

16:38 Right, And Trump is doing something about the first part, which you said, we the people. He's giving you a breath of fresh air into that dynamic that has been quieted that the Democrats have been able to do an end around by stuffing the ballot box and doing the kind of shenanigans they've done they've done over the years to compromise our free and fair elections. That's right. The Democrats basically off the steal elections to get elected because their policies do not represent we the people, or I have an expression. Republicans believe in life, libery and pursuit of happies is for one hundred percent of the people, minus the ten percent who are criminals. The Democrats believe in life, liberal and pursuit of happiness for the ten percent who are criminals. So that's an exaggerated way to look at the difference between the two parties.

17:32 So therefore, if the Democrats want to win and they only represent ten percent of the people, you can see that they have to play games in order to get up to fifty percent. You know, had you made that statement ten years ago about the Democrats supporting ten percent of the criminals, people would laugh you out of the building. But look at their look at their policies, and look at what they're doing now. You know, from state to state, these blue states they're out there, and you and I've talked about, you know, the color of the states. It's just becoming more and more obvious that these blue states have lost their mind, you know, in supporting policies that want to promote, want to promote the criminal as opposed to supporting and comforting the victim.

18:22 Right, it's pretty pretty sad. And by the way, we suffered as a country for four years of Biden, which was really Obama's third term. So we suffered for two terms with Obama officially and then one term unofficially, and so that's eight plus four twelve years of damage in half of our country has been taken over by the Democrats that aren't really Democrats anymore, and they are socialist, communists, Islamist globalists, whatever you want to call them, but not Americans, and so well, simultaneously fighting a civil war. Unfortunately we're not killing each other, which I call the original civil War because the Democrats used to be called Confederates. All they did was change their name from Confederates to Democrats.

19:16 And we're still still fighting the Abraham Lincoln Civil War, just with words rather than through bullets. You know, it's kind of amazing historically, Kenneth, when you look at it, it's like the adversary never really goes away, right, I mean, they may shrink, go down. I mean, even like right now with what we're dealing with in Iran, you know, and the same thing with Hamas in Israel at Gaza. You know, there's never a complete annihilation. You know, there's always some remnant that hangs around and finds a day decades down the road because people forget history.

19:57 That's exactly right, and that's why our previous generation fought World War two to unconditional surrender. On conditional surrender in Europe with the Germans unconditional surrender, the Japanese and if you remember, not that we remember anything anymore in the path, but they were actually signing ceremonies surrender I think was the USS Missouri, if I remember, in Japan, and they were signing ceremonies in Europe. And there were number trials after and we put the top leaders of Germany on trial and we executed I think like ten of them or so. They should have been more. But anyways, we said an example, we won, you loss, you signed this document, you accept defeat. In effect, America took over Japan and Germany for five years and now we have normal countries again.

20:53 So like it worked, but we don't know how to do that anymore. We don't have the patience for that anymore. Well, it looks like things have changed a little bit, just even by definition. When you change our deportment Department of Defense to the Department of War. I think that was telling. That's an indication and a movement in the Rhine direction, don't you think. Yes, yes, yes, because see the American population, by the way, all democracies are unfortunately not very well educated. Because there's so much information and misinformation. People get confused, and they go, I don't know what's right anymore. Let me just go back to my job. You know, they pay me. I'm going to focus on my job. I'm going to focus on my family. And so yes, every time it's possible, our government, and by the way, all democracies have to better educate their population as to what we're what are our challenges, how do we meet those challenges? And that's one of the reasons why maybe only half the people support their run war because we never educate the population that around was an existential threat for forty seven years.

21:59 We didn't want to face it. But I insist, Kenneth, you have to take some responsibility. You have to self educate. I mean, this is a government of four by we the people, Okay, by definition that says the responsibility is with you. The buckstops with you, not with Truman, you know, not with Trump, not with somebody else. You know, we are the first line of defense, whether it's our government, our families, go right on down the line. We have to, I believe, have an awakening moment again and go back to the origins of this great American idea and the people that founded this country.

22:41 They were very self motivated and self invested. Right now, as you say, we've become very apathetic and very casual, and we are putting at risk this great American idea for our grandkids on down right now. By the way, in the early days of our country, roughly two hundred and fifty years ago, only men, not women. Only men with property, not rental property. Someone who actually owns some house I can vote. So can you imagine Just pretend if I stood up with a microphone I said, I think only people who are well informed, accorded to my definition and your definition can vote. You know, that would be a lively discussion.

23:24 All we'd have fun. But why not, Let's let's have that discussion, because maybe we might motivate some people to take some responsibility, because that is what is required in a democratic republic. He's the founder of Savedthwest dot com, a website dedicated to saving Western civilization from himself, and the author of the Multi Front War Defending America from Political Islam, China, Russia, pandemics, and racial strife. Kenneth Obramowitz has been our guest. Kenneth, god speed, my friend. Thank you so much, appreciate you great to be with you anytime. Everything is expensive right now, gas, food, you're spending more. You are making the same or less money. So what do you do?

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27:40 I'm doing great, So glad to be with you again. Bill, Well, great to be talking to you. By the way, Doctor Jonny DeBrito is a licensed mental health professional and Freaking Focus on the Family contributor. And let's talk about this being a holy week that we can learn as we observe and reminded again of Christ suffering in this passion week, that hopefully and gracefully we could find perhaps hope in our suffering. Right, Yeah, I think we can. I think we can see from Christ's example about the importance of authenticity and expressing human emotions. We saw Christ ask God to take the cup of suffering away, so we need to remember that it's not sinful to cry out to God. In fact, in the Bible we are asked many times to cry out and be honest to God and to petition God.

28:34 He knows what we're thinking anyway, right, And we also see that Christ, despite the fact that that suffering was not taken away from him, he was obedient to God and he endured it and he persevered. And as human beings, we typically want to avoid suffering at all costs, which is normal, but very often in walking through the suffering that we. Experience, Johnny repeat that again, and very often. Very often we want to avoid suffering, which is normal, but very often we also learn the most from the fact that we walk through the suffering and persevere.

29:18 You know, I like that you first addressed the idea that Jesus, as the son of Man, divine yet fully man could speak openly with God and say, God, you know, I don't like this, and is there any way that this can pass? You know? And again, I think it represents a model of how the Father will respond to us in our moments of suffering. And you know, I think it's powerful that those that compiled the Bible made sure that this was part of the passion weak narrative.

29:59 Right it is, and it's actually part of human experience and part of the Christian experience as well. And it's part of our faith to know that we, as Christians and as human beings are going to suffer in this life. My goodness, if you look at the Old Testament, you can see so many examples of man's inhumanity to man and then just suffering from earthquakes, and floods and plagues and so forth. And then of course we see Jesus suffering on the cross, which was the greatest suffering of all time, of course, because he took on the sins of all mankind. Yeah, not only at that moment, but from then and forever and even going back in time. Right, he imposed upon himself the sins of humanity. And this is one of the reasons why he visited Hell, was to let them know that they were going to have a kind of a do over, right.

31:00 And I think we also have to recognize, and this is part of our human experience and suffering too, that all of the people around us tend to experience a secondary kind of suffering. For instance, you know, if you have a child that is ill, what parent doesn't want to take away that illness and say, hey, I will take a God give it to me. I don't want my child, or my loved one, or my spouse, or my brother or sister whomever to suffer. And so the suffering expands beyond the person who's actually experiencing it. And I think about what it must have been like for Mary to see her son Diane the cross, and for all of the disciples and the people who loved Jesus so much to see that's him endure that suffering.

31:47 And of course this was one of the things that she had pondered in her heart when she told when she was told that she would be, that her heart would be pierced. And now here it is, I mean, the actuation of what had been prophesied. She's now living at doubt. And you know, here we are, as you said, our loved ones, as parents, as siblings. You know, there's no promise that we will get through life suffering free, right. If anything, it's that we are going to be exposed to a certain level of suffering. You just don't know to what degree. And you just I mean, I don't know, Jony, how people can suffer some of these incredible levels of suffering without God in their lives.

32:35 I have no idea either, Bill. And it's always interesting to me when Christians will say I gave up my faith in God because he allowed me to suffer, and really, then it kind of exposes that they really haven't read the Bible, because the Bible is abundantly clear that we are going to suffer as Christians, not just from the things that humans do to humans and natural disasters and so forth, but very much from persecution for believing in and trusting God and making Jesus our savior. We may be called idiots and all kinds of names for believing that, and that's persecution. So it's always interesting to me because of anything, the fact that you suffer should deepen your faith and your belief in God, because it's very clear in the Bible that that is going to happen to us as human beings.

33:31 Well, in your suffering, you are becoming more christ Like. I mean, Jesus said that we are to pick up our cross. What did you think he meant when he said pick up your cross and follow me? I think exactly what you just said that it's that we are going to endure this together. And obviously the reason that God did not take away Christ's suffering was because the fulfillment of that suffering was that he took the sins of the world and gave us all a way to be able to share with eternity with Him and God the Father and the Holy Spirit. And so that had to happen, that had to come to the full fruition of God's plan for Jesus for us to have the hope of heaven.

34:21 And the freedom of it all. Joni, and this is the thing. I mean, we experience it, you know by comparison minor, you know, compared to what Jesus went through, but nonetheless a lot of people before us. You know, if we look at it in terms of where we are in America today, the freedom we enjoy is God given freedom, but it's been paid at a price of what over a million people in the military who have served our country to defend freedom, and they suffered. The family members suffered to this day, they suffer, right, So you know, there is a cost to be paid for those those things that are of eternal consequence.

35:07 I believe there is surprice to pay. So are some great things that we learn. If we are lucky enough to suffer and still live beyond that suffering, we can often look back and begin to see the purpose in our pain. We can't always do that. Sometimes it's God, I just don't understand that. I guess I'll figure it out sometime later on the other side of this life. But sometimes we can look back and we can realize that it deepened our dependence on God. It helped us to be more compassionate and empathic to other people who are suffering. It helped us to be less judgmental and to be kind and gracious to people who are struggling.

35:51 And sometimes I think it's a faith issue or a faith question, you know. And that's where you know, when you come and you glied with things that are beyond your human understanding and your mortal existence, you turn to God and say, God, you know, like you just said, Johnny, I don't understand it. But what I know about you, I know that you're trustworthy and I'm going to believe that with you. I'll gain some understanding and belief down the road, but I'm going to hang on to you right now. Yeah, trustworthy, love you, I trust you. I will obey you. Even though this is so painful, I will still obey you, and I will not abandon my faith because of the suffering.

36:35 Well, our prayer is is that whatever the circumstance, no matter what it is, And again we're reminded, you know, this is such a glorious time and a reminder of how God delivers on his promise that no matter how bleak it may look for you right now, just as it did for Jesus as he was being crucified in his followers and everybody around him, thinking what happened? It's it must be over. But little did they know just around the corner, Sunday was going to be coming and the grave was going to be empty, right. Johnny, Absolutely, and they would once again see Jesus, but now in a different way.

37:16 Yeah. Well, all glory and honor to God, Johnny. How can people find more hope amid suffering? Well, I think first of all, you can find hope when you are not only depending on God but also finding support around you and the people that love you, your friends, your family members, etc. And let me just say that if you are coming around someone that is suffering, there are a couple things you want to be really careful about. Of course, prayer is extremely important, but always wait for that suffering person to either ask you to pray for them or you make that invitation, can I pray for you?

37:58 Because when people are struggling, sometimes if you just say let me pray and you start praying, it feels kind of like you're discounting their pain, or if you start spouting Bible versus, that can feel like discounting pain as well, now you can pray for them if they say no, certainly, and you certainly can refer to scripture, but do so at their request or if they've given you permission otherwise. Again, it kind of feels as if you have a magical answer, which none of us do. When there's no magic answer for suffering and there's no perfect thing to say. What's really the most important thing is your presence, the willingness for you to walk aside them. And then also just always remember that Focus on the Family has information on this at Focus on the Family dot com slash mental health, and there's information in there about grief and loss and so forth. Or you can just search the word suffering and for anyone who is struggling with anything. We still have that telephone number eight five five seven seven one four three five seven which is available Monday through Friday seven am to nine pm Central Standard time, so you can adjust according to the time zone that you are in, and you can call and leave your contact information and either a licensed mental health professional counselor or a licensed

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44:08 Yeah. It is what makes the gospel message definitive, isn't it. Yeah, Jesus said, if our Paul said, if Christ was not raised from the dead, your faith is in vain. You're wasting your time. It's a fool's effort to be religious, to have faith. But if Jesus was raised from the dead, and remember he also raised Lazarus from the dead. Though Lazarus didn't stay undead forever, Jesus did, and he sent his Holy Spirit back to us to be with all of us at the same time. So life is not just healed from sin and death and the curse of this earth, but we have Zoe life, which is abundant, perfect life beginning now, but it'll go on for and it's all because Christ proved his atonement by raising from the dead on Easter.

45:06 Well, let's rewind just a moment here, as we are in the start of this Holy Week, and we're entering with Jesus in his passion as he you know, we're just on the hills Palm Sunday, Hosanna. He is being cheered on and all this expectation and hope that Israel the Jews had at that time, and days later, these same people almost are saying crucify him. Jeff. We know that the priests and the Saducees and the Pharisees, and the scribes and the Jewish religious leaders, perhaps those who were different than Nicodemus. Nicodemus was really curious and looking strongly and humbly for the Messiah, which the scriptures point to. And you know, obviously those who read the scriptures missed Jesus.

46:07 Perhaps because. His kingdom was so different and it didn't give them the political power and turn around and position that they hoped for. But it was really the crowd that they roused up, that yelled crucified Jesus, and there were still others who wanted him to be Messiah and who said Hosannah, but they kind of went silent, I think, which was evident built by the fact that only John of all the disciples showed up at the crouction, right and the rest, you know, Peter denied and the rest kind of were afraid and.

46:48 Were scattered, But they did come back to him, and. They did live their lives for Jesus and for the Gospel. They even died martyr's deaths and belief and trust of Jesus. But it was hard at that time, I think for people, because Jesus was different, than what they expected. God's kingdom is upside down from the world's kingdom. He doesn't just reverse things and say on now I'm the president, you know everything. Yeah. Yeah. The thing is that the difference was they were looking for a temporal solution and Jesus was bringing an eternal solution. And uh, and this is why so often, you know, Jesus would challenge the leadership and say, you know, do you have ears to hear? But they didn't because they were so focused on the here and now as opposed to eternity. And you know, you and I have discussed this many times, and sometimes we're willing to forego eternity for some temporal for some temporal comfort, right, and the things this world that are all fade away, and and that puts Us in conflict with what Jesus went to the Cross for.

47:57 Yeah, you said, the temporal versus the eternal. They were looking for the here and now change and he was aiming at the eternal. But there's another distinction. They were looking at the external that he would fix circumstances, fix the oppression by Rome, set up the Israel. You know that they expected that's external, but Jesus was about an internal change, an internal healing, an internal salvation. So it's what goes on in us has to change before anything else can change. And if you're looking too much for circumstantial change, you're not saying, Lord, change my heart, Lord heal me. It's kind of like that guy that was waiting at the pool of Bethesda for thirty seven or eight years paralytic to be healed, and Jesus asked him the question, do you want to be healed? Do you want to be well? And I think this question was do you want me to change you all the way, not just give you the ability to walk and not have to lay here at this pool hoping for a miracle.

49:05 And that's a great question for us to think of this week and at Easter. Is do I want the internal forgiveness, salvation, healing and transformation that God brings to me? Or do I just want the circumstances of salvation so I don't go to hell and I do go to Heaven and answer to prayer so our life circumstances are better. It's internal before it's ever external. Yeah. No, that's a good point and it reminds me of and I don't know if I've shared this with you before, but this has been profound for me in the hallow app in what we're going through right now during this Holy week and previous it was forty days of prayer, and one of the recurring themes is from Mother Olga that says, God, empty me, God, feel me, God, use me.

49:57 To your point, before you can be any good, You've got to let go of everything that's inside you, all that muck and mire and interpretation, worldly interpretation, your ideas are. Are you prepared to be fully emptied? And then and then and being fully emptied, then God can put all the things that are good and noble and righteous and only that are of Him into you. And then with all that, you say, God, I'm surrendered to you, Use me. Take what you've created, this new beginning that you've deposited in me. Use me for your kingdom and for your glory. And whoa man I mean, because you look at what Jesus did. That's exactly what he did. But even when when God filled him, Jeff, think about it, he had to fill Jesus with everything that was that covered all of eternity, you know, to infinity, going all the way back to the beginning of God's creation, all the sins then, and not only at that point atty three a d or whatever it was the exact year, but going on to now twenty twenty six and beyond, Jesus had to be filled to the capacity to redeem us all all the generations, on all of God's creation, from back to the very beginning and on to whenever this ends and Jesus comes back.

51:22 Yeah, Jesus lived completely perfectly in alignment and relationship with his father. He represented constant righteousness, loving kindness, and goodness and justice and faithfulness and humility and other centeredness God glorifying. All credit always went to his father. He did that so completely. You're saying that it was enough righteousness to make up for five thousand years of human sin and human corruption bills, and jefs, I want to turn the corner a little bit, because all of us know that the greed and the lust and the anger and the hatred that we have inside of them, we know that it needs to be forgiven and healed, and we want Jesus to heal that. But sometimes the thing that we won't realize that we really need to empty ourselves of is our good intent to be a good person, our good intent to make our family turn out great, our good intent to run our business well, and you know, make a profit and hire some people and make a tithe and a little bit of a name for myself.

52:36 God doesn't want us to count on. Any of our own goodness. It's nothing. I think the Bible compares it to filthy. As dirty rags. And the Pharisees they weren't out raping people, they weren't out murdering people. They were trying to be so good in the in and of themselves and then to appear good right praying on street corners and wearing all the fancy philacteries and things that She's pointed out that their goodness had become an idol, and that idol was so big there was no room for him. And he said they were whitewashed tombs. There was nothing of God inside of them. He said, you're like serpents. Basically, they were trying to be so good they became satanic. And remember Satan was Lucifer beforehand, an angel, and he wasn't satisfied with the wonderful condition that God put him in and his beauty and all the gifting he had as an angel. He wanted more, he couldn't say enough. And his quest for more.

53:40 And being like God and getting glory like God is what made him rebel and of course be cast out, and of course to Seve, Adam and Eve and you and I. I think anytime that we're getting carried away thinking, man, what I'm doing is really good, this is important. I'm special or you know, maybe God doesn't know best, but I know best in this area. Satan talking to us, you say, Satan, get behind me, Jesus, win this victory. Jesus, you have one, the victory I call in your name. So that's a great way to overcome sin, even the sin of pride in our goodness, because there's no goodness that can find our way to heaven. Only God is good. Yeah. Amen, Well you know, And this is this is the challenge, the paradox in which we live in is our human condition that wants to strive for more, that wants recognition and acknowledgment. And we may say, we may throw a couple of crimes to God and say, hey, we're doing this for you, but God knows our heart right.

54:34 And and the thing is is that what happens. Is that who is who is the king in your life? Is it God that liberates you? Or is it the things that bind you? The things of this world that is you and I have been talking about in the last couple of months, the things that hold you down and tether you to this mortal existence as opposed to the glorified, eternal existence of freedom and true love and glory that God wants us to live in. Jeff, I mean, that's the opportunity and that's the exchange here, and this is unfortunate. Like you say, what Lucifer decided to go with is the things that catapulted him, that threw him down to the earth, took him out of heaven boom landed him on earth and he's been there ever since.

55:22 Yeah, this week is a great week to think. Do I want my version of life, which is imperfectly framed in my mind and my imagination and my heart, or do I want God's version of my life? And God is more benevolent, kind and loving and exciting and wonderful and generous than we could ever imagine. After all, he did sacrifice his perfect only son for you and me. There's no greater love than that it's amazing. So we need to let go of the false views of God that think he's pretty good in most areas, but not all areas, right, And that's the thinking that causes us to kind of hold on to some control in some areas.

56:03 So this Easter, this, you know, Palm Sunday, this week, this Holy week, let's think about what am I falsely holding onto that I think I can run better than God? And where am I not realizing that He is so much better than me. I should surrender at all. It'd be the best thing I could ever do to surrender at all to him. Exactly well, just as Jesus rose from the dead, when everybody thought, you know, can you imagine the mindset of everyone here it is Jesus, they thought, Judas even thought Jesus was going to be coming, is a reigning king and the temporal existence of humanity there in Rome at the time. God had a bigger plan. And what they must have thought as Jesus was hanging from the cross as he was, you know, hardly recognizable, as they ripped his and shred his body to pieces, and they're seeing and thinking, man, there's our hope. We spent three years following this guy and this is what we got, you know.

57:05 But you know they didn't They didn't know God to understand that Sunday was just around the corner. And for those of you who may be facing some tough times and thinking all is lost, you must remember on this resurrection Sunday that God rose Jesus from the dead, and as a follower of Christ, that is part of your DNA and heritage, is it not, Jeff, I'm gonna let you wrap it up, Go ahead. It is. I want to pray for people and praise God to close us up. So let's just pray Billy Father in Heaven, Lord Jesus, Holy Spirit, Bill, and I ask you to come and speak into the heart of every person listening, and if they have never received, simply by faith, the wonderful, wonderful salvation and gift and life, eternal life, adoption into your family, the freedom from sin, wiping out of the record, and the agape love that you bring us. Lord, help them receive Jesus solely on his merit, nothing they need to do. And many of the rest of us. Lord, I pray for all of us who have yet to surrender fully to see where we're holding on where we don't see God accurately, and to surrender to who you really are every area of our life so you can fill us in control by your Holy spirit and you can get the glory.

58:27 Lord. We want to live a life that glorifies you and points to you. We praise you for Easter and for Jesus. And your name. Amen, God. We pray that you would empty us, you would feel us, and you would use us for your glory in Jesus' name. Amen. Thank you, Jeff Kem. Appreciate you. Everything is expensive right now, gas, food, you name it. You're spending more, you are making the same or less money. So what do you do? You rack up credit card debt. That's what you do. It's not your fault, it's the economy. And guess what. If you rack up too much credit card debt, like some of us, you can't pay your bills. Then the credit card companies, as nice as they are, start hounding you for money. Then you start your downward spiral. A smart thing for you to do is to call the Zero Debt. They can help you consolidate all your credit card bills into one affordable payment. Millions of people have done it. It works to make you debt free. Make this free call right now. It costs you nothing to learn more.

59:37 Eight hundred two eight four one three four nine, eight hundred two eight four one three four nine, eight hundred two eight four one three four nine. That's eight hundred two eight four thirteen forty nine. Getting America back on track. Bill Martinez, Hey, good morning America. Good to have you with us. Six minutes after the top of the hour. Right now, Bill Martinez here. For more information on the show, you can check it out Bill Martinez Live dot com. Nick Brian is back with us to talk about all things Epstein and with the latest details, and also we're gonna be able to get into a little bit more of the Franklin scandal history if you don't mind. But Nick, first of all, let's update the audience on Epstein and particularly zoro Ranch.

1:00:30 Okay, there's not the thing about zoro Ranch. It should have been search six years ago, but seven years ago. And diffree ecstas arrested. Whatever things are incriminating in zoro Ranch, we're taking out years ago. So despite the sound and furies signifying nothing, I think that Zoro Ranch is probably going to be about as clean as as clean as the streets of New York. That's that's a little questionable right now. But maybe there might be some lingering stuff there in Zorah Wrench. But but you're exactly right. They probably somebody had to have realized that there's you know, there could be some issues there, and they probably went in and you know, they've had plenty of time to clean up, clean up the mess or clean up any evidence.

1:01:27 Right. Yeah, along with Epstein's videos that were taken out the day that Epstein was arrested, or within twenty four hours, his New York safe was sliced open and there were hard drives taken out, multiple discs. According to Pam Bondi, some of those discs had Jeffrey Epstein molesting miners, but then she they're one eighty and said that there there's no videos of Jeffery Evsty molesting miners. That actually he downloaded all is internet child abuse material, which is kind of silly. She also said that.

1:02:07 In twenty twenty five last year, that it was the first time the Department of Justice and FBI was going over that material and there's no way that all that material has been sitting in some corner of the FBI and collecting dust. Right. I'm sure that various alphabet agencies were looking at that stuff that day. The next day people were doing double shifts. So it's just another example of Pam Bondi's disingenuous lies. Do you suspect that maybe there's sub files that were taken out of that information in the spirit of j Edgar Hoover, and that some of that material is out there in hidden corners, not necessarily gaining dust, but just you know, kind of held just in case if somebody needed to get out of jail card or something.

1:03:00 I'm sure all of it is well, any of the material that had compromat And I firmly believed that Jeffrey Epstein one of his special Jeffrey Epstein was a multi talented guy, but two of his specialties were pimping out underage girls and also compromant. And he was also very good at arms dealing and money laundering too. If I was Team Evil and I had a first round draft choice, Jeffrey Epstein would be the guy. I mean, he might be the first pick overall if I was Team Evil. Well, and what you're suggesting here and what has been reported on is that Jeffrey Epstein had built up quite an infrastructure that serviced his needs.

1:03:50 Absolutely well. He had all the money in the world and so that was anything that he had to worry about. But Gallinne Maxwell helped. Him build the machine that destroyed god knows how many girls. And he was definitely doing arms deals with a hud Barak, the former Prime Minister of Israel, and I also believe that he was laundry money too. Les Wexner, the billionaire, gave Jeffrey power of attorney over his vast portune in nineteen ninety one. And you can't make this type of stuff up, Vanity Fair said. The reason why billionaire Les Wexner gave Jeffrey Ebstein power of attorney over his vast fortune was because he was lonely. And then Leon Black.

1:04:42 Gave Jeffrey Epstein one hundred and sixty million dollars. Leon Black is a billionaire and he ran Apollo Management, and it's been reported by various media that Leon Black gave Jeffrey Epstein one hundred and sixty one hundred and sixty million dollars because jeff Epstein was helping them with his taxes. Well, that's a you know, h and R Block would would have liked the deal. I mean, you know, they wouldn't quite get up to that number. But Jeffrey Epstein somehow became a CPA. Huh. And initially I thought this was all compromat because Wexner's name has come up and Leon Black's have come up as perpetrators and co conspirators.

1:05:27 But actually I think it was money laundering. I think that that triumvirate and then others were engaged with money laundering with Jeffrey Epstein. And the money that they were laundering, where did that come from? Jeffrey Epstein had long lasting ties to the Central Intelligence savements, and I believe that less Wexner, Jeffrey Epstein and less Wexner. There was an airline called Southern Air Transfer which was the CIA proprietary airline. And actually it was the airline that started a Ran Contra because one of its planes was shot down delivering armaments to the Contras. And the person that survived was Eugene Hofras, and he said that he was a CIA contractor. And then Southern air Transport was also used with Blood diamonds in Africa, and Epstein and it's kind of actually kind of humorous to a certain degree, although somewhat tragic. Epstein and Wexner had Southern Air Transport moved to Ohio, so Southern Air Transport could ostensibly disseminate the various clothing items that came out of Wexner's el brands like Tommy Hoifig or Bittner, Victoria's Secret

1:06:58 and others. Yeah, and what has always crashed me up about that is they didn't even change them. They didn't even change the name of the air lot. I mean. It's I mean, you can look. Up any newspaper Southern Air Transport was shot down by the delivering arms to the conference, and yeah, they didn't even bother changing the name of the airline. Well, how long has that been in existence? I mean we knew or at least have been reported, you know, the CIA's involvement and all kinds of nefarious activity that involved you know, transport with airplanes. So this is the fly the family friendly skies of the CIA.

1:07:43 Right. Yes, and there was Air America, but I think there were other CI proprietary air lines that followed Air America. But I think that Southern Air Transport is probably the biggest of Yeah. And you know I was suggesting that, you know, even going back into the Vietnam era and all those drugs that were transported, right. That was their America. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And so here it is. I mean, it's no wonder that Americans have lost confidence in our government, and certainly with the CIA and all the stuff that's been going on, even to the point that we still question, you know, who killed JFK.

1:08:30 When you cover up a crime, you ate in about that crime, right, and our government has been covering up Jeffrey Epstein's child rafting. Well. It was first reported in. Nineteen ninety six to the FBI, but the first large scale cover up occurred in two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight by the Bush administration. Nick, I'll tell you what We've got to go to quick break. Let's pick it up on the other side. We got more from Nick Brian after this stay with us. We call ourselves ASAP Treel for one reason. We can help you book a ticket asap. For those of you that don't know, that means as soon as possible. That means no waight time, you get through right away, no searching online.

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1:13:47 You know, even in modern history, we're seeing all this involvement and interference, whether it has to do with Trump or others. But as you were saying and recounting, is that when it came to Epstein, you know, going back to the Bush years, they knew that Epstein was a problem. And I believe that Jeffrey Epstein ultimately got his sweetheart deal from George Bush too. And I didn't know this until recently, and I have some expertise with Jeffreybbs. I've been investigating since twenty eleven. But I initially thought that there was a grand jury that had been impaneled, and then it was adjourned relatively quickly, and then I was told that there was a grand jury that was going to be impaneled that was never impaneled. But now we know that there was a grand jury that had drafted a sixty count indictment against Jeffrey Ebstein, and Alexander Costa was the US attorney and he was told to stand down.

1:14:46 And there's no way a US attorney is going to go out on a limb and cover up international child traveling network, you know, Latterly, it's just not going to happen. Alberto Gonzalez was the Attorney General at the time, again, going to go out on a limb and cover up child international child traving network unilaterally. So that order came from George Bush to cover up Epstein, and. We've been covering it up ever since. And as I was getting in that earlier, if you cover up a crime, you're eighting and a betting that crime. So our government has been assiduously aiding and a betting Jeffrey Epstein's child traving network since at least two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight, even though they were cognizant of Jeffrey Epstein, the FBI was in nineteen ninety six.

1:15:35 Why would George W. Bush protect Epstein. Because Jeffrey Epstein was very important, He was a CIA asset and he and I think that that's really what And when people say that Jeffrey Epstein has a massad acid, I don't disagree with that. But on the other hand, I don't think George W. Bush is going to cover up a Massad asset like he covered up Epstein. I think that Epstein was heavily meshed with the CIA, and do you. Think do you think he was a double agent of sorts. Well, when you get into the Masad and the CIA, it's kind of like the Gambino family and the General of as crime family. They generally work together because they found out that fighting is counter productive to profit margins and other things. So Gambinos in the general ass get along very very well. And I think that the Massad and the CI get along very very well.

1:16:41 So uh so again, uh, George W. Bush understands Epstein to be a CIA operative and uh and and he must have been significant as an asset for the President of the United States to involve himself. And Bush's dad was head of the CIA, and he'd been a CIA agent since probably the early sixties. You were talking about the Kennedy assassination. Russ Baker and Family of Secrets, which is a meticulously researched book, shows that Bush was part of that assassination team and Dallas in nineteen sixty three. So I don't know what mechanism it came from with George W. Busher, could have come from his father and said you've got to cover this up.

1:17:32 Could have come from Dick Cheney. It's difficult to say. Right. Well, and as you say here he is, I mean he's you know, he's laundering lots of money. His influence internationally has has developed over the years. And meanwhile, as a side hustle, he's involved in human trafficking. And I think his partilection were for young girls. So I think that that just kind of came naturally to him. But you almost don't have to keep in mind when we talk about George W. Bush, his predecessor Bill Clinton. Epstein signed in seventeen times Yes to the White House with women that he provided with Clinton. So Ebstein was heavily enmeshed with our power structure. And I believe that the Clintons and the Bushes are very close number of areas.

1:18:32 I believe that they've both engaged in similar criminality. Do you think George W. Bush did well? If he didn't, he definitely knew that his dad was. I just don't see how he would not know that his dad was in the criminality. That is right, you're talking the criminality of human trafficking. No, I'm talking the criminality of Iran contra. Oh okay, right, okay, And I'm. So talking about other types of criminality too. So and George Bush Sr. Was necked deep around contract and so is Bill Clinton because well, because of the the airport right in Arkansas.

1:19:16 Well, like you say, I mean, look at when you you're a meshed. I mean, he's involved in the c I A. He's in Uh we have pictures of him in Dallas that day regarding JFK's assassination. Uh. You know that that follows you and and people know that, people of influence know that. And and that's the way uh influence works in the Beltway, doesn't it. Nick. I Mean it's like if I've got something on you. Uh you know uh that that's uh that limitsure power. What Americans have been fed so much bs over the years.

1:19:58 But we're supposed to believe that George Herbert Walker Bush had no affiliation with the CI whatsoever, but yet he was made director of the CIA, right, I mean that is the lie that we've been expected to buy. Well, you see, and this is the problem I've had, Nick, And we've been reporting on the show is that it's been one lie on top of another on top of another. And here we are a democratic republic operating supposedly on a constitution, and you've got one party that talks about democracy. And I keep saying, what do you mean? I don't think you understand what democracy You're you're throwing it out there, you know, for your base and to rally up your side of the of the troops that divides America. And until we really are able, you know, it's like a Jack Nicholson moment, you know, and a few good men, you know, if we can handle the truth of everything, even going back to what happened with JFK and going forward Vietnam, just just go right down the line, you know.

1:21:09 That's the problem with our country. And here we are about to celebrate our two hundred and fiftieth anniversary, and it's all entangled and enmeshed in all this deception. I think that there's three mechanisms or trends that are super imposed on each other that makes us a feat as a voting populous. The division between the right and the left has been quite breathtaking. When I grew up as a kid, my next door we were Democrats, and my next door neighbors were Republicans, and. My buddy, their son was my best friend.

1:21:51 And there was no acrimony of Republicans and Democrats. Now Republicans think that Democrats are mentally ill and vice versa. So we've been divided and conquered that way. It's just completely divice conquered. I think the second trend is that Americans have been conditioned to believe that they cannot affect change. And I think that the third trend is many of our politicians are compromised. Yeah, so when you superimpose those three trends on each other, you end up with a bunch of child molesters that we know about who aren't getting indicted, which is a real tragedy that it had to come to this, that America knows that Jeffrey Everstein was trafficking children and they were getting molested, and no one's getting arrested.

1:22:46 Right exactly, well, and all the other levels of criminality you know that has taken place in our country, that nobody's getting arrested, nobody's going to jail, and we're supposedly a land of the law in order, and we are anything but. And this continues to have us at each other's throats because we've lost sight of what it is to be united that you know, like you said, when you're growing up, I growing up, we were an American. We never questioned anybody's you know, Americanism, but today we do. Yeah, it's it's gotten to the point of very tragic. And I'm when I started writing in The Franklin Scandal, which is basically, if you want a carbon copy of Jeffrey Emstein, the Franklin.

1:23:35 Scandal is the book. I have not been able to vote for Republicans or Democrats since then. When I was when I was first digging around, I go to my Democratic buddies and I'd go, you know, this Republican has compromised. And then I would say, and this Democrat has compromised too, and then they would say, well, you know, Nick, I think you're overreaching on this guy. And the same thing what happened to with my Republican exactly. So I just I have not been able to vote for a Republican or Democrat. I mean, I really hope that there is a day when I feel that our political system isn't as compromised as it is. And I will feel comfortable voting for a Republican or a Democrat.

1:24:22 It's going to take a radical movement, no doubt about it, because they're so well entrenched. Nick, and sadly, this is where we are and it's got to be a force. Where again, in the name of the Constitution, those three important words, we the people take our country back. We got to leave it there for now. Look forward to continuing this conversation with you down the road. Nick Brian, investigative journalist, director of Epstein Justice dot com and. Epstein Justice can save us. I believe that it can save us from ourselves. Do you have Medicare and do you use a seapap machine. This is a National healthcare alert regarding your seapaps supply. Using a clean seapap mask and clean supplies is important to staying healthy. The best way to make sure your SEATPAP equipment is clean is to get new supplies. If you have Medicare, we have great news. Medicare will pay for you to have new clean supplies every ninety days.

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1:28:56 Well, I mean that is part of the program, isn't it to You know, you've heard all those people last week complaining about Secretary of War Hegseith sending steak and lobster to the troops. Well, let me tell you something. Every meal from a from a dirty can is a banquet when you're a grunt. Okay, So that's the way that one works. You can tell who's a civilian who is and you know those guys squeaking about like like like Pete Hegseth is going to eat that stuff himself, right, right? Yeah, all you need is a little John Wayne can opener, right, that little John Wayne can opener, and and you know, ration ere there and who needs anything else? Right?

1:29:40 My father told me on the march into the Chosen Reservoir, they stopped for Thanksgiving dinner, and he knew that they were in for a bad one when the first sergeant showed up in a deuce and a half with hot rations. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's almost like, you know, like they're last meal, you know kind of thing. Right, that's right, man, that's right. When you know you know so. Well, God bless him, and you know, and there you are, I mean, something like that in a fresh pair of socks and you're ready to go. That's right. It doesn't get any better. You know, if if you catch a bad one and your squatties have to bundle your stuff up to mail home, they're going to go through your stuff to make sure that they're not sending anything bad home. And it's usually just a few of the letters that you saved, a photo or two, your wallet, whatever, your kit was. What does a man carry in the field. Not much?

1:30:42 Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well, Nail's a lot of controversy over Caesar Chavez, and I know that you have been responding and commentating on this, so break it down for us. These allegations that have come out, you know, way after his death, and you know, like why now, And it seems bizarre. It seems very odd to me, mister Martinez, the timing of this. Okay, So here we are on this big fight over illegal aliens. I refuse to call them immigrants. They're not immigrants, they're illegal aliens. An immigrant is a guy who moves here legally. So Caesar chav has represented an organized farm laborers, American farm laborers, whether they were Latino or Okie's or Chinese or whatever, as long as they were legal, he would organize them, and he risked his life to do it. I think he was. They tried to kill him two or three times. And so his coequal organizer, Dolores Huerte, comes out in this big splashy store in the New York Times, claiming that Caesar Chave has assaulted her a number of times, impregnating her twice children that she bore and then ostensibly purportedly gave away to other people under informal adoptions. Well, this stinks to me, Bill, and I'm gonna say why. Ms Wuerta had fourteen children, she had two husbands, and she was

1:32:16 Richard Chavez girlfriend for a significant period of time. Four of her children were sired by Richard Chavez, the younger brother of Caesar Chavez. If you can find the Latino male who will put up with some other man taking liberties with his woman, that's a unicorn, Okay, that is a unicorn. That is the rarest thing in the world. Man, that's a good way to get killed messing around with some guys, girl or missus. Okay. I don't know how to say it in Spanish, but I think it's cold and affair of the heart. And it's a good way to get turned into a canoe with a sharp knife, right exactly. It's nothing you want to mess with. I promise you. From the tip of Tierra del Fuego to the strait of San Juan del you don't want to mess with this. So I don't believe it. I'm not buying it. It stinks. Caesar Chavez had a history of not just being opposed to illegal aliens, of sending United farm Workers to block them from access to the fields in Calexico, Imperial County, and protesting them at the border, and even engaging in a little bit of labor union violence led by him to keep scab labor out of the fields. Now, I understand being opposed to the organization of labor unions. Sometimes they are Marxist in origin. I don't consider Caesar Chaves a Marxist. I consider Caesar Chavez

1:33:50 to be an American who risked everything he had to represent men who didn't have much, Okay, and that's something to respect, all right. Yeah, And he wanted, you know, the field labors to be respected. I remember one of the big issues, you know, for me, I was born and raised in California, was the whole. Right, Remember the real simple, simple device, a tool that the farm labors would use, and they weren't in the best benefit. But he pointed it out, and all of a sudden, you know, these labors are getting equipment that made sense and made it more effective and healthy for them.

1:34:31 Right. Well, so God bless them. They come here. They worked their tails off. Just last year we were told that these are jobs Americans don't want. Well, Caesar Chavez was an American who wanted the job, okay, and he represented Americans who wanted to do that work. It's hard work. I don't want to work in a farm field. You know, my father did it growing up in Missouri during the Depression, that sort of thing. Know how hard job it is. So they come out with this stuff and they make all of these allegations. And here's the most suspicious part about it. Bill the government that can't fix anything on time.

1:35:13 There never has any time or money for anything other than maybe you know, transvestite healthcare and dyeing your hair purple and you know, transvisive transvest Day of Death remembrance and that kind of thing. They snap into instant action with power washers and sand blasters and Chisels to scrape Caesar Chave's name off of everything. And then Los Angeles has this ridiculous child of a woman named Nithia Rahman who is running for mayor against Karen Bass or whatever. She's a communist, an out communists, self described communist. She says that Caesar Chavez Boulevard formerly Brooklyn Avenue, should now be called Labor Justice Boulevard. You know, so this is just right out of the pages of George orwell how quickly they're ready to throw this man overboard and he's not around to defend himself to say, ex right.

1:36:16 Well, what's what's the rest of the Hispanic community saying, Nils. You know, the guys who work for a living are scratching their heads and saying, wait a minute, what are you doing here? And the ones with their faces in the trough, like Nthia Rahman and the other leftists, they're going to go right along with it. And I'm going to point something out here. Soon enough, they're going to go gunning for Martin Luther King. They're going to tell you what a monster Martin Luther King was right, because he's now inconvenient because he was against abortion and things like that. Okay. So in Leninism, the doctrine of communism, this is called Leninist dialectics. Anything that isn't perfectly for them is one hundred percent against them and has to be removed, banned, circumscribed, executed in a bloody closet, and a lubianca or something like that.

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1:41:59 Right, Well, let's see what Anaheuser Bush has to say. I mean, didn't they create much of what we now consider Sinko to Mile. You go to mile exactly right, right? Or Quatro de Julio, you know, that's the other one that I like so much. But you know, yeah, let's see what happens here. I mean, there's some people in Los Angeles, you know, in positions or responsibility saying, well, wait a minute, what are you doing here? You know, he's been dead thirty years and suddenly this is the most important thing about him to you. I mean, it doesn't pass the smell test to me, Bill, not at all. Yeah, they can't figure out how to restore all those homes that were burned down in Pacific Palisades, but they can sure get Caesar Chavez his name off of street signs and everything else. As you say, right, yeah.

1:42:49 Look at he split like like he never existed. They're going to erase this man. Unbelievable. Well, Nancy Guthrie, what's the latest. Well, there's a pretty well connected organizer. I don't want to call him an influencer. He's a political guy in Pema County named Gautiers who has started a recall petition for the county sheriff, mister Nanos, based on the perception that mister Nanos has probably dropped the ball on this case in more ways than one, probably the public relations angle of it more than anything else, because the people actually handling the investigation within his office are pretty good.

1:43:37 The homicide Bureau in Pmaccounty is a good group of detectives. The other day, Google announced that the imagery they identified to a prior date, they can now no longer stand by the date time group that they've ascribed to that image in recovered footage from Nancy Guthrie's house, because there was a second The one that they're referring to is the one where the purported assailant does not have his backpack on right, So they don't know whether it was that day or ten days before, or maybe even three days after. They just don't know. Well, it certainly wasn't three days after because the night of the night of the breaking, the assailant removed the ring camera. The footage of which is subject to this, so there may have been some reconnaissance of the scene casing in criminal orgo, so they can no longer stand by that. Now I have somebody in Arizona law enforcement whispering something in my ear that they have a theory, an operation operative theory, that this was personal, that it had absolutely nothing to do with a kidnapping for ransom, but money or some other personal motive was involved in this, and they are

1:45:08 of the belief that she has probably been dead since that evening. M Well, that's the update on the Nancy Guthrie case. So so it was some personal retribution against Nancy or maybe Savannah or something possibly, we don't know. One of the men that I spoke with in Arizona this morning said that that Savannah Guthrie's husband was politically connected, and it might be that, but I don't think so. He wasn't sure of that, and he's not law enforcement. But the law enforcement people that I'm talking to are saying that they have pretty much ruled out kidnapping for ransom and they don't think that this civilian in a backpack and a mask with his pistol tucked in front and plane view is a veteran criminal. It's a very well planed, well planned act that that that part us plane.

1:46:11 But if he were a convicted felon, let's say somebody had been to the joint before, he would be concealing his side home, he wouldn't he wouldn't be carrying it out in the open like that, right, So they think that this was a planned attack and that the Nancy Guthrie knew him or thought she knew him. So that's that's where where we are with this at this moment. So quite possibly, uh, you know, somebody there in in the Tucson area that she may have had some kind of you know, incidental connection with or at least uh you know, maybe cross paths with or something.

1:46:54 But but still, this is a deeper, deeper connection than that, deep deep enough to want to for somebody to want to eliminate her. So we don't know yet, And I'm standing by my belief is that this case does get solved now. And what what are you holding to right now, Nils, I mean, with all that you know and your expertise, what is what is what is your gut saying about this case? Personal motive? Somebody had a personal motive to gain from it, or because they were personally offended by her or disliked her, or there's somebody so bereft of conscience that it doesn't bother them to eliminate her for the purposes of personal gain.

1:47:43 Was there anything that has come out about Nancy Guthrie that would indicate that, you know, she was on resort or she could upset people. I mean, if anything, you hear just the opposite that she's just was such a sweet woman. A sweet old lady, a little bit of a liberal. She posted a lot her just dislike of our president. But I don't think that the Justice Department is going to allow that to stop them from identifying her killers. Yeah. So the people are entitled to a political opinion in the United States. At least the people on our side are more tolerant of the political opinions on the other side rather than the inverse. They can't stand it when we have an oppositional point of view.

1:48:25 Yeah, exactly. Yeah, they're the ones that claim to be fair minded and they're open to other point of views until they hear it. That's how they hid Yeah, yeah, kind of me. Well, I mean for some reason, I mean, you keep thinking, sooner or later, there's going to be there's got to be some breakthrough. I mean, could you imagine this being, you know, a twenty year cold case, the only one in today's technology and everything nels. The only one that comes to mind is the is Jean Manet Ramsey. I was going to say, and the only reason that one is cold, quote unquote is they have a very good idea who did the crime. But because of the way the crime scene was handled in the opening hours, without a corroborated confession from the killer, they cannot bring a case. They don't have corroboration and the killer hasn't confessed.

1:49:25 It breaks something similar here with Nancy Guthrie, because there's been some debate in terms of how the crime scene has been mishandled, particularly, you know, which is what put the you know, the current sheriff in jeopardy a bit, right. I think that there's some conjecture over that. Now I didn't get to walk the crime scene and see the evidence that sort of thing. I would very much like to, but I haven't been brought in on this case yet. My information is based on a local media report contemporaneous with the first disclosure that she was missing, was that the house, the interior of the house was a crime scene per the sheriff, and that there was no sign of a forced break in. The lack of a forced break in strongly indicates to me that she knew or thought she knew her killer. It was two o'clock in the morning. You're eighty four years old, male or female.

1:50:29 Somebody comes pounding on the door. You don't open that door. You die on nine one one unless the person says, Nancy, it's me, please open the door. Exactly. Yeah. Wow, Well, Neils, this has been one of those situations. And for Savannah Guthrie and for the family, you know how this has been weighing on their hearts for this extended period of time. Well, yes, I'm going to say something about that. People often talk about closure in these contents. There's no closure for a family. They hurt forever. It just loses the power to hurt them as much as it once did.

1:51:14 I have a couple of clients who've had family members kidnapped for ransom in foreign countries, and they look over their shoulders for the rest of their lives. They are always concerned that mother, father, daughter, son, etc. Or even themselves are going to get scooped up off the street by men in hoods and being beheld for ransom. And it's a terrifying prospect. One of these clients has done every single thing to remove every family member he can from the country that he was born in. He is so fearful of it. Well, Nils Gerillius, we got to leave it there. Thank you, as always, I appreciate the time. He's the LA based private investigator with more than thirty years of experience handling complex cases across all fifty states and internationally.

1:52:03 Neils, thank you so much. Take care, Thank you, mister Martinez. You have a safe week. It's good to see him always. Hey, we're always grateful for Neil's Gervillius. I appreciate him coming on and giving us all the information about the latest investigations that he's involved with in just about every state across the country. Anyway, look at this week is just such a special week for me and you know, for all of us of faith, because here it is, this is the passion week when we really bear down on all that you know, God gave us in our appointed time, even now in this Easter season, and all that it represents in terms of our liberty, liberty and the blessings that God has bestowed upon us, and all that Jesus did for us. And you know, as we've been talking about that, you know, Bill Fetter brought out earlier this week, in terms of the amount of you know, suffering that Jesus had to go through because of him paying the price for all our sins.

1:53:10 It wasn't just the sins at that point in time. We're going back in history from day one when you know, God's creation came into being. So when you had the fall from I should say actually the fall when Adam and Eve sinned, then from that point forward and even today and beyond. So here's the impact of the sin that Jesus had to bear is all of eternity. And I don't know how that's set with you, but that hit me in a most definitive way. I've always looked at the passion of the Christ as being very profound and painful. It's painful to watch, you know, even as the passion depicts it. But even that is as tough as it is to watch, That's really nothing when you think about all that Jesus had to endure you know, the accumulation of an eternity of sins of mankind that he paid the price. I'll tell you, it just blows me away. It's quite humbling, and you know, and that's in putting it in mortal terms. It's much more profound than that. And I pray that this sister season would be a remarkable and profound Easter season that would be similar to all that Jesus went through on our behalf.

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