Bill Martinez Live
Feb. 5, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 02 05 26

The Bill Martinez Show 02 05 26
The Bill Martinez Show 02 05 26
Bill Martinez Live
The Bill Martinez Show 02 05 26
The Bill Martinez Show 02 05 26
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0:00 Are you ready? Yeah, Okay, let's do it. Ill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and our future. And now Bill Martinez. Well, good morning America. Great to have you with us. I'm Bill Martinez. He is Wayne Morrow, the CEO of the John Birch Society. They're a nonpartisan civics and education organization that endorses the timeless principles of the Declaration of Independence, which proclaimed that our personal rights come from God and not from government. Wayne, welcome to show. Good to have you back with us. Are how are you? Thank you? Bo Hey. Lots to catch up on, of course. I just have so appreciated the spirit and heart of JBS.

0:45 You've been consistent, and that's important because in a time when you know, you and I were talking off air, here in a time where the Grays have kind of modeled everything, and people are confused and they don't realize the difference so much that you know, black and white, and the stark difference between good and evil. It's all kind of been blended together. But I think the good news is we're starting to get some clarity on this, don't you think? Absolutely? Yeah? I see that as I travel about and people want to hear the truth, right, and they're young especially, they know they have been lied to. They want to hear what's really happening, and they're open to that. So I take advantage of that, and I think it's an opportunity for all of us, all ages. But the younger men fourteen that maybe nineteen or twenty years old, the gen Z types, yes, very interested in knowing the truth.

1:43 They know legacy media has not been on their side. And you know, because that's what the bird side has been talking about forever. They finally connecting those dots. So that's why the grays are disappearing now, so obvious, and that's what's going on, right. Well, look what happened in that recent award for that young girl at sixteen, She was told by her psychiatrists and doctors that she needed to have her body transformed, right, and of course European countries had already realized this a long time ago and they stopped, you know, doing these kind of horrendous surgeries. Well, she ends up with a two million dollar plus award, which I think is pickens. But nonetheless, you know, again to your point is, people are realizing what the truth of the situation by experience, right, you know, you can only defy gravity so long before it starts doing some serious injury.

2:34 Right of course, of course I. Saw the bird's size at the top of the puzzle box. That's right, So yeah, exactly. Well, you know I want to talk to you about, you know, about this stalinist fifteen minute city that's going. Across Breadain, what's going on? Break this down for us? All right, sure, Well, written's under a lot of you know, there are a lot of trans I used to live there there. The Fabians, you know, the Fabians are familiar, the Fabians. They are well, the current Prime Minister Gary Starmer and the mayor Cidyn they are both Fabians. This is about one hundred and forty Fabians in Parliament and every Labor Party Prime Minister, every Labor Party elected official or Fabians go backwards a little bit because it explains what's happening today. So back when I lived in England, there was a lot of conversation with this young man by Audux Huxley, who was a Fabian. So it was ah she all these guys were and a matter of fact, just for fun, Dialond Birch and Russell Mike fair lady.

3:43 She says about you appearing every five years in front of a board that determined if you should be dead or alive, if you have no value in society. Actually you can actually listen to it. I mean actually says this, right, that's insane. But anyhow, so this guy was writing information down back and forth, and he still wanted to tell the world about really what he was told. He decided to write a book from the notes he was taking, and he said, I can't use my name because I'll look like a crazy person. I don't want to root. If the books a flop, I'll give myself a pen name. So he sorry. His son name was George, and Orwell was his last name, So George Orwell his real name is Eric. Blair decided to write a book called nineteen eighty four Bill. It actually always becomes wise in nineteen eighty four because the Fabians started in eighteen eighty four, and he said, with one hundred years of existence, they have new world order. So if you read the Fabians, I have a book by the way we sell in our bookstore jbs Org called The Fabian Freeways. It's a chunker, it's deeps story beyond the history of Faban's back back in time, back in Lord Milner and Cecil Rhodes. This is all done by accident. This is really a depth.

4:57 It's not you know, don't take our work for a listen to it. But we're seeing now you mentioned about in the UK that is the plan is to destroy the culture to rebuild it to the New World Order. So when I lived there, everything was prim and proper, navy blue suits. You know, everyone's yes, sir and no sir. Now it's insane. You can go online and look at London, the streets of London, and it's a total disaster area. And what happens that they influx all those immigrants on purpose to destroy the culture. And people ask me, what's going to happen to them? Well, if you fall through history the conspirators what they are, they'll kill all those people. They're they're not going to be running anything, trust me, exactly one of them. Think they're gonna run the show.

5:41 Not a chance. And here there is the useful tool that are what's happening is the fifteen minute city is and doing this in the United States bill is what happens. It keeps you restricted to an area fifteen minutes from where we live, much like in China, they can be where you go. You know, you can't go outside the bounds. You pay a fine, and they want to be able to track where you are. No freedom at all your movement, and that's fifteen miss So if you travel around you see high rise apartments with grocery stores in the bottom and coffee shops around a circle. That's the beginning of a fifteen minute city. And it'll be mass transit, not your car. They want you out of your car, by the way, right because they don't want you to have the mobility. So you can look under the United Nations fifteen minute city. It's itally you can actually see the plan.

6:37 Let's really you know, they tell you it's going to reduce commute times and a better qual like, well, that's a nice to hear, but I made some notes here, But that's from minous surveillance, your license plates, facial recognition, digital ID retime trackling. They're going to be able to You have to record every one of your trips, your behaviors monitored list goes on that, so you live in a digital prison. That's basically what it is. Yeah, that's what they want to do, and they do that in London now to keep people restricted to movement and other towns north of Birmingham trials. But of course people complaining because they want to go visit a relative, you know in London they can't go anymore because they pay a fine, or you can't drive your car into town because it's blocked off.

7:21 By the way. Right, how much has the trap been set here in America? You kind of refer to that, you know, and I can see where the trap is already in motion and in construct. Well you see I sell in Kansas City. You see them building fifteen minute cities. Roundabouts are always a good indication, that's what you see. Just you look at the new development, all the high rise five stories high, and oh you see those apartment companies, you see them, you know, And what's really going on here. They want to be able to control your movement. So it's digital prison, much like the digital currency. It's all monitoring everything you do, and they do it in the stake of environmental concerns. That's not true. That's basically keep your eyes on you continue, just like in China. You can't leave the prison. That's basically what it is.

8:16 And the initial setup is like you know, they sell you on some false convenience story right all the time. Yeah, you know why traveling traffic and go spend an hour sent in traffic. You just operate from home. You know, you can just go down the street ten minutes away. Isn't this great? And you got cameras all around watching you. If you go outside your you get to pay a fine. You pay a fine if you go outside your fifteen minute orbit. And can you imagine what this does in terms of communication? Now, all of a sudden, your communication is all relegated to this fifteen minute city area, right, pretty much because I got to imagine the Internet's going to be restricted and all the other things because they want to keep you in that bubble.

8:58 Well, it's all monitored and record say know what you're saying where you're going? So they do that all the time exactly. Well, we got to go to quick break right now, we've got more more from Wayne Morrow right after this. Stay with us. You've heard T Mobile is the best network in America. Now the customer is officially confirm it. The JD Power twenty twenty six US Wireless Network Quality study ranks T Mobile highest for customer satisfaction in five out of six regions, the first time in company history. In today's fast paced world, enhanced and high performing mobile connectivity matters more than ever, whether you're at home, at work, or on the move. When it comes to faster speeds, lower latency, and stronger voice performance, customers continue to choose Team Mobile. That performance is driven by the nation's largest five G network, backed by the most towers and a world class engineering team.

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13:59 I'm telling you, you know, you were talking about UK and what they've done in terms of mass migration and what they've done. I was just looking at this breakdown here just of how Islam is colonizing non Muslim countries. The United Kingdom in twenty ten had approximately two point eight million Muslims. It's projected by twenty thirty and well on their way to have a ninety four percent increase, and that number will be in excess of five and a half million people. Five and a half million Muslims in the UK alone. The United States not much different. By the way, the United States watched their growth in twenty ten, it was two point five million. It's projected to grow in just about four years from now, in twenty thirty six point two.

14:44 That's going to be a growth rate of one hundred and forty percent. Way Sam the same story. Yeah, most people are run for politics and they don't assimilate. That's the thing. They do not assimilate. Well, we see proof what's happening in Minnesota. Right exactly. Well, yeah, they don't assimilately. Yeah, Minnesota. By the way, you mentioned that that's that was a theater for us. You know that's all done on purpose. Those are those insurgents or anarchists have been bussed in and we did a story on that. There's a rich person out in China. He sold his business years ago. His name is Neville Singham A s I N G h A M. Neville Singham. He listens in China now CCP guy.

15:29 He sold his IT company for seven hundred and eighty five million dollars and he supports the People's Forum Code Pink Party for Socials Liberation. So all those things we see and know you watch it, you know X you see videos. I saw that in Boston because I used to live there. All these people coming off the bus, they're not from Massachusetts. They're eight agitators, right, and they think like this is spontaneous. It's not. So this particular individual and of course he's been not been fingered fingered because it's hey, we know who you are now and they probably know what about in the past. But he actually pays for insurrection to cause destruction working with CCP. That's all part of the plan.

16:09 So what other groups beside the CCP. I know that Peter Schwazer just wrote a book and he identifies the CCP. You know, for so long everybody kept blaming everything on George Soros, yes, part and parcel, but there's other players involved here. You know. I mentioned Neville Singham Si n g HM. He's one of them. And what happens is the Chinese government has surrogates to do all that, and that's what he was saying. I think I listened to his interview the other night, Peter Schweitzer, who I know some of as folks with their research, and they said basically that they have the kids come, the families come in or have children and they stay here. And he said there's up to I don't know, he said ten million or so one hundred thousand young kids. They will become members, voting members, and they actually just are assimilating into the United States. Is Chinese, but be a voting block to the point we'll be able to change elections. And that's how that's what he said. This is what's happening. This is the silent coop, you know, right, And that's what's happening while we're sleeping.

17:11 Yeah. Well again, look at what happened in Minnesota. A voting block there of what just over a little over eighty thousand, and they are running the state. Yeah, well, that's certainly Minneapolis, Saint Paul, for sure, you're exactly. And all the crime and corruption, huh. Right, exactly. And the deal is is that And of course Donald Trump's trying to do something about legitimizing our election process once and for all. The states don't want. To do this, you know, we just you know, the FBI went in finally into Fulton County in Georgia and got some great discovery here, which again gave us some evidence of all the things that we knew right off the bat on the twenty twenty election, and Roethinsberger swearing, oh no, this was the most secure election.

17:57 Well boy, he's got egg all over his face. But you know the disgusting thing about this wing which upsets me especially you know, you and I both believe in the Declaration of Independence. That's that's our guiding light. And if we don't hold to that and that gets compromised, then everything it implodes on itself. And these people have attacked our constitution, our declaration, and and they have really put this great American idea in jeopardy. Absolutely will our constitution is always under attack continually and that and that. And I have to tell you about elections because people said, give you example we have. I live in a small town here. The problem is that good people don't vote a midterm e lecture right now and they think it's really not important. Well, that's how you get the wrong people in offices. So I'll give you quick factoid is that we live in a small town of you know, we had twenty five thousand registered voters for our town from mayor right, and there's a really good guy running against one who was not very good.

18:58 And so the guy we thought was going to win lost by three hundred and fifty votes. And you know why that is only thirty seven hundred people voted. Wow. So here's here's the world of the story is that if Americans want to save their own country, you got to go and vote, because they can't cheat that much. That's right, they already know how you're not going to show up. So that's why early voting is nasty because they know how much they have to handicap exactly exactly like the races, you know, like, hey we got you know, we got this. Looks like Bill Martinez is ahead by you know, twenty percent. We got to pack the house or twenty but just in case, we're going to find them in a room someplace, Right, why always vote on election day? They can't cheat that fast. But nobody wants to participate one hundred percent, so they hand the elections over to the other And they know this all the time.

19:45 Well, and this is why the Democrats are fighting so hard against any kind of uh, you know, legitimacy voter. I d one day voting, you know, get away from uh these these electronic machines, I was saying to somebody else wing And I was in the radio business for many years, and it was a disc jockey in La and uh and I was there when the day disco died. It actually it was ignited in Chicago. A bunch of anti disco's people went into Chicago. I think it was oh gosh, I think it was white Sox was the White Sox ballfield. Anyway, they go to the stadium, they pack all these disco records and turn it into a big bonfire. It killed Disco, it really overnight. And what I'm saying is that we ought to get all those voting machines, and I don't care Chicago, New York, where you want to put them. It probably couldn't find a blue Steak because oh my god, it would be like you're you're trying to, you know, burn up the cross or something. He'd create such havoc for the for those on the left, they just go nuts. But anyway, we just find someplace, load them all up, and let's just have one big bonfire once and for all, never again, because here they are, you know again, they sold us on convenience.

20:57 We bought into that. And and and. They have the audacity to calculate do all the calculation outside of the United States. They compile all that voting information out of this country. I mean that in itself, I think throws up a red flag for me. I don't know about you, of course, of course. Well we know. But one of the ills is that voter participation is not high. Yes, and so they basically they complain and complain about their legislators. They don't know who they are, they don't see them and call them on the phone, say what are you doing? And they don't participate in the process. Yes, so think about it. Who's the worst enemy is us? Yeah? No, you're exactly you're exactly right. But this is why they've been disenfranchised, because they believe their vote doesn't count because maybe they voted once, or they see what's going on, or you know, you get people.

21:51 You know talking. The mainstream media has done is no favors either. You know, they have just been a propaganda arm for those on the left and these progressives that want to take us to a one world government. Absolutely right. That happens all the time, and it's not just the United States, it's around the world. Fraud elections and you know that they've been cheating elections since the days of Abraham Lincoln. This is a new right through the history. You could voter Fraud's existed way back then and Lincoln got was elected by illegal methods he had he was voter fraud. He stuffed the ballot box again him elected, right, right, you can go back in history. It is amazing. I mean, so this is an old trick, you know. Yeah. Well the thing that really which I thought was so arrogant was when they were talking about the voter fraud potential in twenty twenty, the Democrats had to admit they well, to be honest with you. Yet you know, we agree that the election between JFK and Nixon was bogus, that there was voter fraud. And I'm going, what did we sixty years later, you know, all of a sudden, you know, it's like we didn't know and we didn't accept it.

22:56 I mean, Richard Nixon, you so, but for the sake of the Republic said I'm just gonna I'm just gonna walk away. Yeah, which he did, Yeah, of course he is. You know, he just basically destroyed himself. You know, it's interesting. My proposal to the voting time is on election Day, it's a holiday. Everybody goes votes one day, one elect no early voting, no nothing, this one day. And when my kids were little, we used to do that one day up in New England, and we used to sit in the town hall and watch them count the vote votes by paper. And we had one Democrat Republican county and the other guys overseen and the crowd there would know who the mayor was, the chief of police was before we left at nine o'clock. And then they took their results and staple until the front door of the city hall, and we knew everybody left and see because there was a small town, but we knew exactly who won. It was Price. We watched them hand count every one of them twice.

23:51 Exactly I'm with you. I'm with you. One day holiday. Everybody votes, you know, and then we got to encourage those that are sitting on the couch that hey, look at your vote can count. It does count, and you need to get involved. Waynemorrow has been our guest CEO of the John Birch Society. How can they be in touch with you. Wayne, JBS dot org and then we have a magazine called The New American dot com. By the way, we have online the Freedom Index. It has the voting record of every state legislator, Senate, House is Wells Congress Senate at Wells House Representative. You can see how they vote on the Freedom Index dot orgy. That's a really powerful tool. You know how they vote. It's available for your phone as well. It's a mobile app. I say it's really important, but you got to get involved. The midterm elections bill is important because I see clouds forming, will Congress over to the left again. Who wants power back again.

24:45 Right wants power, and then we'll be in impeachment city. You got it. You can write that in the sky. Without a doubt. Waynemorrow. Thank you so much for being with us. Take care that buss. Why do I go to the doctor? Working on the farm, my heart kept skipping a beat. I didn't think much of it, but my daughters made me get checked out. Turns out I have atrial fibrillation, which increases the risk of stroke about five times. Symptoms like a regular heartbeat, heart racing, chest pain, shortness of breath, fatigue, or lightheadedness can come and go, but if it's a FIB, the risk of stroke remains. If you have symptoms, contact a doctor. I'm so glad I did visit No time toweight dot com sponsored by Bristol, Myers, Squib and Pfizer.

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28:02 Hey, good morning, welcome, Good to have you with us. Goull Martinez here along with Doroy murder Hockey, the Manhattan based Box News contributor who is dealing with the mom Donny blues of no trash pick up and the streets are still in the mess. Are you still having fun there in Manhattan? Are you out of town? Uh? Oh, I'm back here. I'm actually leaving, uh meeting old high school friends in Park City, Utah tomorrow, But right now I'm enjoying. Is it called waking in a winter wonderland here in the the woke woke, uh, frozen wonderland here in the mom Donny stand? It's quite something. So are you doing some pre skiing there in Manhattan? You know, I mean with all the ice out there?

28:43 Yeah, yeah, I understan, although I understand we have more snowback here than they do in uh parks of the Utah at the moment. But you know, we'll do the best we can. We're not skiing the slopes, be we'll ski the bars and restaurants well exactly. But how gorgeous I mean, Uh, it's been a while since I've been there, but last time I was there was just absolutely wonderful. So save travels, my friend. While meanwhile, let's talk Minneapolis. It seems like those ice haters are suffering still from what I call gf DS George Floyd derangement syndrome. What do you think, Yeah, it's something like that. You know, these people are completely out of control. You know, there's some certainly some peaceful protesters there mixed into the bunch, but there are a lot of other people are completely out of control. And if you don't like ice and you want to stand a street corner and scream about it, or you know, we've picket signs or hold hands and prey like candles, whatever, that's perfectly okay unto the First Amendment.

29:37 But what you're not allowed to do is do things like put a little pieces of plastic with screws and nails protruding through them so you can put them on the street and flatten the tires of ice vehicles as they drive by. The first of them. Doesn't cover that sort of thing. He doesn't cover you standing in front of ICE officers and screaming at them and preventing them from moving forwardasically getting their faces so they can't enforce the law. That's actually a violation of federal law. That's a felony to do that. And then you've got these folks who have been throwing rocks, ice balls, fireworks that explode their faces. That's not covered by free speech and went so far.

30:19 I mean, this is absolute Astonishshing had a couple of members of the Border Patrol who had in one case his finger was very badly bitten. In the other case, his right ring finger was bitten off so badly they actually had to have it removed by surgically removed. And there's a picture on this article I wrote for The Daily Signal which you actually see his fingertips sitting inside a little plastic container because I'd be surgically removed. So you know, I'm all for people engaging in peaceful protests or non violent resistance if you wish that sort of thing, as Martin Luther King did and the civil rights movement did back in the nineteen fifties and sixties, But that does not include things like biting off the fingers of members of the Department of Homeland Security. I'm sorry, that does not that's not covered by free speech, biting off people's fingers. Sorry about that. Uh so this these people are out of control. You know, for all the rage we hear about hearings on Capitol Hill just yesterday, and all the speeches and commotion, you here out of the Democrats, I'd like, you're a little bit of just a little bit of rage from them saying, hey, you know, if you want to protesting against ice, you got to do it in a way that's that's peaceful, it's non violent, doesn't involve removing the fingertips from ICE officers.

31:30 I'm sorry, that's just not included under the first moment they did. They even bring that up in the hearing on Capitol Hill they did, Yeah, I know. The many Republicans did. I don't. I don't think the Democrats probably mentioned anything like that. Yeah, but you're the only one that I know that's done an article. It's actually showed a picture of the person's finger in a little little tube there that you could actually see it, and of course you see his finger as well. I mean, so this isn't some made up anecdotal story. This reality all kinds of stuff that's going on there. I mean, you've done more reporting on it in this article than the mainstream media has done combined to Roy. Yeah, I thought in this article I do is just to give a list of about ten or twelve actions that these protesters have taken that are not kosher, they're not okay, and sort of increasing levels of morbidity and gruesomeness.

32:23 And this has to be part of the story. Now, you can discrew with ICE. You can think ICE has problems or could do better. If you want to criticize their approach law enforcement, that's perfectly okay, But you're not allowed to tack these people. You're not allowed to stand in front of their hotels and break the lobbies of their hotels where they sleep and make so much noise they can't sleep. You know, if you really really want ICE officers to make intelligent, senseful, sensible decisions, let them sleep at night. Because if they're coming to work the next day totally exhausted from not having gotten any sleep, how smart do you think their decisions are going to be? How they going to handle that judgments that they've got one one quarter of a second decide do I shoot this person or not? Do I approach this person not you know, do I don't, don't I use pepper spray?

33:08 Do I do I use or not use baton, whatever it might be. You want them to be as sensible and as just about these decisions as possible, and having them come to work exhausted because you've got a bunch of people outside their hotel hollering, screaming, making noise, you know, shining lights into their windows and then destroying putting graffiti and then destroying the windows of their hotel lobbies. You know that this is not a way to get these guys to be well enough for us to make sensible decisions and sound judgments when they show up to work the next morning. Well, and even when you're there, you know, to have people, you know, cussing at you, spitting at you, blowing whistles in your faces, doing everything they can to impede.

33:48 The job that you're on. And here you are, you know, your function is to make the streets safe, and you've got these knuckleheads, these these people that are just activists that are causing problems. I mean, to me, they're no different than somebody in the movie theater yelling fire. You know, I think there's a lot of truth to that, because this sort of behavior almost always just leads to more chaos and more confusion and doesn't make They always says, oh, we want Trump to lower the temperature, Well, how about you telling your pals on the left to lower the temperature. I just saw last night a video of some folks confronting some ice officers a couple of days ago in Minneapolis.

34:29 One of the happens happens to be black, and one of the white left wing protesters called him, quote excuse the language, quote, a house nigger. Unquote. Okay, I didn't think we I think we heard that talk out of the mouths of American since you know, the South of the nineteen sixties, you just sposed to be open minded, you know, open minded democrats, socialists, people who really care, or people on the left to or compassionate, et cetera, et cetera. And hear this kind of language out of people, Now, how do you expect someone to respond and there's that kind of language, is going to be easier to deal with and more common lacts? Or is he going to be more on edge and like like clear to do something that heal later later regret and maybe the person scream that is.

35:11 Later go to regret. Yeah, not one of actions. You expect that out of sensible sound bnded people. Well, it's it's ignorant on its face, de Roy. I mean, you know, and I've had this discussion with doctor Elvita King, you know, and the Bible is real clear about this is that we're one race of people. The only difference between me and you in terms of our our skin texture is melanin. You have, you have more, I have less, makes you darker, light, I mean, you know, and there's it's this has proven time and again. I mean there's even uh you know, records of twins being born where you have one child that is very dark complexed and the other one very light.

35:52 These are twins. So they don't understand. I mean, they're ignorant of God's design and how he created. And yet you know this whole argument of oh, you're white, well you know, it's like, no, I'm sorry, I'm not. We're not white. And I got to tell you, you know, being Hispanic, you got to make as you know, I'm very I'm light complexed, and I got tased a lot because even though I was Hispanic, I wasn't you know, the typical dark you know, Spanish or Mexican kid on the block. I was known as the weddow and h you know, so they were they made fun of me. But you know, it's like, you know, it's just it's just human nature. You know, we can be we can be brutal, but that's just all that stuff. The base of it is ignorance and uh, you know, and it's about time that America exercised some of its intelligence. I mean, we have been the most blessed country. We've had the greatest amount of opportunity, and uh, and we act in such stupid ways.

36:50 I mean, what a waste deroy. Yeah, an enormous waste. And uh, you know, I think it was Thomas Sola wrote a book about this exact topic called Pink and Brown People. You know, white people are more pink and black people aren't really black or really more brown. And I guess maybe some are darker brown than others, what have you. But we focus on this sort of thing, and as you say, the differences among us are so minimal, with the significant difference in melanin and lack of difference in so many areas other areas, and tremendous potential either to turn out to be wonderful, decent, creative, and sane citizens, or to go the other way and be out of control, destructive criminals, what have you. And each of us has the capacity to do that. And it's all depending on how we're weird and how we decide to carry ourselves and behave ourselves. And you can do that with black skin, white skin, brown skin, or any other kind of skin.

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42:07 Hey, we're back with you. Thanks for joining us. I'm Bill Martinez. He's the Manhattan based Fox News contributor and contributing editor at The American Spectator, among other places, including the Daily Signal. That's where you want to go Daily Signal dot com to read up on his latest article. I mean, again, you know, congratulations De Roy. I mean, this is something that's been long waiting, you know, this kind of truth in reporting about what's going on there in Minneapolis, the things that the mainstream media are not reporting on, the things that ice officers, you know, are fellow citizens that are on there on the streets to help preserve law and order so that we can have safety in our streets.

42:48 I mean, look at what they've already done in d C. And in Texas and other areas of the country where there's been cooperation. The clear difference is in that word cooperate, the lack thereof there in Minnesota. Right, Yeah, this is very true. You know, you've got even a place at Washington, d C. Which is not exactly a conservative bastion. This is one of the most liberal countries cities in the country, and to her credit, Mayor Muriel Bowser said, Okay, I want the police to cooperate with ice. And if there are people who are illegally alien, criminals who are often violent, convicted of things like rape, child rape, murder, multiple murders, what have you, you can go pick them up at the local jail, pick them up at the courthouse rather than release them, let them go home, and then say okay, now you can go find this street address and try to extract them while the neighbors are out there, protesters are there, and it becomes a much much more dynamic, more difficult, much more volatile situation than if you just have a couple of officers go in and have the warden say okay, here he is, I'm taking off the handcuffs. You put on your handcuffs and off you go where there's no nobody around to cause problems or to be affected by either flying bullets or flying what do you call them tasers or whatever else it is that could cause problems for either innocent bystanders or protesters. Who get too close to whatever it is. So this is why you across the country, you've got ICE helping to deport these violent

44:19 illegal alien criminals. And the only resistance, only chaos you see. Only chaos you see is places where there's resistance, like places like Minneapolis to a lesser degree, Portland, Los Angeles, and most of the rest of the country, including places like Memphis or the Democrat mayor places like Washington, d C. Which very liberal Democrat city. If the police cooperate, you don't see the chaos. You don't see the mayhem. And these people who are convicted of violent crimes and who are legal aliens, can be arrested, can be deporting, kicked out of the country is where they belong well. And the or thing that happens too is when you release them into the general population. Instead of cooperating with ICE to where you've got controlled area to pick them up and get them deported and off to where they need to be. Now you put them in the general population. Now, ICE goes to a neighborhood and they go into an apartment and there's five or six other people. What are the chances of those five or six other people possibly being illegal and if they are, it's upon ICE to arrest them as well, even though they're going after the really bad guy and maybe you know, the other five or six people they've broken our law in the sense they're criminals, okay, because they've come into the country incorrectly and illegally, and so they're.

45:37 Caught up in the drag net. Well, the Left wants to focus on those people, not necessarily the ones who are you know, with him, with the guy who raped a woman or was involved in trafficking or maybe even has you know, aligne of felonies on his record, right, you know. This is the case. And look, if the left is concerned about people, as you say, who are illegal aliens that broken they broke the law when they came in the country, but since then they behaved themselves and are just working hard and taking care of themselves. And their loved ones. If the left really cared about these people, they would go along with the policy that people like the mayor of Washington, d C. Has followed, and that is to cooperate, cooperate with ICE and let them go in and very peacefully and in a calm, orderly fashion arrest and de poor people who are illegal aliens with violent criminal records again including robbery, rape, chah rape, turning kids into prostitutes, running sex slave operations, killing people, killing multiple people, and remove them from this country, kick them out of here, which is where they belong, in a calm, orderly fashion. Or you could do what the left in Minneapolis does, which is let them run loose, let them go home, and then at that point you've got to go and extract them not from a calm prisoner jail, but from the middle of a street with again protesters. There other people who, as I say, may be illegal, but they behave themselves since they got to this country. And when I see those people, they're kind of obligated to pick them up and haul them out, even though maybe they're not hurt.

47:07 Anybody broken the law since they broke the law when they first walked to the country. So if the left really cared about these people, they would say, Okay, we'll cooperate with ice and focus on the really really bad guys and the other people who are criminals in the sense of breaking the law of the country but have behaved since then, and let those people get a break. But this is not the way that the left works in Minneapolis unfortunately. Well, of course not. And of course our elected officials are doing as no favors either, deroy. They need to euthanize sanctuary cities. Just put a dead graveyard dead, get it out of here. It's unconstitutional on its face.

47:47 Basically, what you're doing is you're kind of interpreting the constitution in such a way to break the law and to harbor a criminal. Right, yeah, well, I mean I think the first you want to do with sanctuary cities in the path to get getting rid of them completely, you stop calling the sanctuary cities. I use the term fugitive cities because essentially what they're doing is they're shielding. Fugitives from the law. And the word sanctuary is very positive and it's got sort of religious connotation, like a religious sanctuary or sanctified, that kind of word. But I call them fugitive cities and say to democrats, these are not Republicans, they're left wing Democrats who run these sanctuary cities sanctuary states, and say, look, you don't have a legal right to harbor fugitive from law, future fugitives from federal law. You know, you're violating the supremacy clause, you're basically violating federal law when you harbor and hide these people. And again, these are the folks who, many of them, who are being hidden and protected by the Left, are violent, terrible people. These are folks who strangle little kids. These are folks who rape children. These are people who take a little ten to eleven year olds and turn them in as sex slaves. They can have sex of little kids who are barely out of you know, maybe barely in puberty or maybe not even yet in puberty. And these when the Left blocks Ice, they're saying, hey, we'll leave these people alone alone so they can continue to rape our children, continue to rob us, continue to get drunk and drive their cars into us, and then turn around with knives of guns, whatever it

49:18 may be, and kill us. That is who the left is protest is protecting in places like Minneapolis, other places where they're getting in the face and keeping ICE from arresting these people and kick him out of the country, which is where they need to go outside the u S. You bring up a good point. I think every time Hakeing Jeffries opens his mouth, they need to run a little subtitle underneath him to say exactly what you just said, because this is what he is supporting. All the people on the left and Hakem Jeffries as a spokesmouth, you know, for the left's position. H you know may Or Fry, Governor Waltz, Tim you know Tim Allison or Keith Allison, the attorney general there in Minnesota, and you know, and on and on.

50:06 You know, these people that support this. You know, we need to run you know, subtitles under him saying this is what you know. I know they're saying one thing in their mouths, but this is what they're supporting. Yeah, this is very important to make this point. And I think that in addition to people on our side of the aisle talking about this on radio like we're doing now or writing articles, giving speeches, whatever, we need to be running paid advertising. We need to run ads all around the country because there's lot of people who either they're not looking to hear these sorts of views or they're not getting them. If they're turning on MSNBC or MS NOW, is it's called Jimmy or Jimmy Kimmel or watching Jimmy. I'm sure Jimmy Kimmel is not relating the information people are hearing from us right now.

50:52 So we need to get some of these people are benefiting from the Trump tax cuts, the Trump economic expansion and say, look, you. Know you've got you've made up very well. We need you to write a big fact check either to the Republican National Committee or the National Republican Congressional Committee or these various packs and interest groups or whatever it is, and buy some ads so that these people see what's going on. I hope that people will buy ads in the super Bowl that's coming up this Sunday and get this information across. People really need to see this. There is thankfully that the. Polls show multiple polls show the American public still supports the idea of rounding up violent illegal aliens and killing them, or not killing, kicking them, kicking them out of the country.

51:32 But the people who either don't know that or don't have the information you do understand what's going on here. And I think just running the mugshots of these people indicating what their crimes were and saying, look, these are the kind of people who are being arrested and deported and with ice and hecking Jeffreys and Chuck Schumer and the others get in the way, they're basically protecting these people, making life easy for people who are running around and raping and murdering American citizens. This is what the Democrat Party stands for today. Yeah, the Democrat Party that gave us the gifts of twenty million illegal immigrants who came in the country with everything you know, and it's all bad. It's all bad because it started bad, unfortunately, and some of them have self deported and given themselves an opportunity to come back and do it.

52:17 The right way. And I hope hopefully somewhere down the road that's manifest and because they cooperated that they're rewarded appropriately. I don't know if you saw this or not, Deroy. This came from MRC during the Bill Clinton years, he deported twelve point five million illegal immigrants and by the way, no protests or riots. Okay, point five million, wow, one point five millions. George W. Bush ten point three million, no protests or riots, Barack Obama five point two million. He was regarded as the deporter in chief, right, but he only did five point two million, so less than half of or about half of what George W. Bush No protests, no rights now dj T Donald J. Trump one point five million deportations and he's had three hundred and fifty protests and riots.

53:12 Isn't that interesting? How about that? So compared to those other people in terms of deportation, Trump is either moderate or liberal compared to them. And yet we hear Hitler, we hear Nazi, we hear Gestapo, we hear stormtroopers, we hear ss all this Nazi Germany, a German kind of imagery, and he's deported. It sounds to me like about a third of what Obama did and something like about what is that ab roughly about. Almost a tenth of what Bill Clinton did. And again, as you say, under Obama and under Bill Clinton, even under GW. Bush, no protests, no fingers being bitten off, no car windshields of ice agents being bashed in, no projectiles being thrown at them.

53:58 They could drive down the street worrying about. Running over nails and screws, having their tires flattened, which, by the way, is a really good way to create an accident that then hurts people, and it's a bystanders either in nearby cars or on sidewalks and then get run over when a car with a flat and tire slides. Out of the ice exactly right. Not good. And what I didn't know those numbers, But that I didn't know those numbers build with that. That's really truly breathtaking. Yeah it is. We got to leave it there for now. Droy Murdoch, the Manhattan based Fox News contributor contributing editor American Spectator. Check out his latest release, Daily Signal dot com. Right there, Minneapolis ice haters are not so into peace, love and understanding. Deroy is always appreciate the time. Take care all right, Bill, thank you very much.

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56:45 Getting America back on track, Bill Martinez Live. Hey, good morning, six minutes after the top the hour. Right now, Bill Martinez here with Mark Bilts. Hey, Mark, goodness she again. Happy you you're my friend. It's been a bit. Well, thank you, it's always great to see you. Well. I want to talk about Israel and Ron, but before we get there, maybe you can help me reconcile this. What the heck was Congress doing giving more money to Planned Parenthood? And that that is just the epidomy of stupidity. There's so many more important things. I mean, that's almost like the Arabian saying, why does Iran keep investing in hate and ballistic missiles rather than taking care of the people.

57:27 Right, It's just that's the way they're wired. It's what they do. And it's like, you know, and I'm thinking, all right, was there some negotiating ploy here or some avoidance of another government shut down that somebody had to sell their souls to give money. To Planned Parenthood? I mean, what happened to our moral backbone? I mean, are they either we're going to protect the unborn or not exactly. The big problem is there is so much fraud, so much waste, so much abuse that has happening in our government right now that it's going to just totally bankrupt the United States. Well, and and we deserve it, you know, because you reput you sow and you know this money and what we're saying, you know, in terms of fraud and corruption, and what I've been observing Mark more and more is that this money goes out to organizations like that, whether it's an NNGO or Planned Parenthood. And my question is who, you know, who are the politicians is getting a big on that money?

58:30 Absolutely, absolutely, it's always about the money. It's all about the money at government levels as well as that personal. Levels, right, and this is all you know Again, I think where we are is the shroud is being pulled back. The veil is no longer there, and so now it's up to we the people, so like it or not. Because we serve a righteous and just God, he will not allow this kind of injustice and wrongdoing to continue, and so he is pulling back the veil. And so what are we going to do about it? Repent? That's the only thing we really can do.

59:13 I think all we can do now is mitigate it. I mean, judgment is coming big time. I really believe we're going to see a major war. This year among the nations. And just like if a tsunami is coming, you got to prepare for it. People may not want to hear it, but that's their problem. It's coming. A tsunomy of God's judgment is coming upon the United States. Well, you and I were talking before we went on the error, and that is that, you know, things seem to be speeding up here. And I had mentioned to a friend of mine with focus on the family, I said, you know, God's up to his god thing and it's moving quick. I mean, you just have this sense that it is you know.

59:55 Well says in his word, time will be shortened. And I think in one sense that's why everything seems like it's speeding up. Just for example, the goal the price of gold isn't rising, it's the dollar is diminishing. Right, People don't understand that. I think our economy is going to completely collapse by the end of this year due. To our debt. Yeah, all the gods that God judges, and we've got plenty are getting lined up, right. Oh exactly, that's what happened. Most people don't know. In Egypt, every one of the plagues was actually against one of the Egyptian gods. And so it's going to be the same thing. God is going to take down every one of the gods that we have built.

1:00:37 Yeah, because you know, in order for us to find the peace that we're all looking for, it is totally focused on God Almighty. All these other distractions have been getting in the way, and we've got all these many tower of babbels that have been set up. Right, Oh, so true, so true. Everyone thinks it's all about themselves. It's all about me and how can I use people, rather than having a perspective of how can I help people? Our society is so narcissistic today. Right, Well, And my question that I've been asking people recently is you know what's just and right?

1:01:18 You know? And if you don't, if you don't get the answer from God, you got the wrong answer. Exactly because everyone, if you read the Book of Judges, everyone was doing that which was right in their own eyes, not what was right in the eyes of the Lord. And this is why we have such wackos around that have defined good as evil and evil is good. Yeah, or can't even divine what a woman is. I know that's pretty bad. You know. I googled it and they're like seventy genders only seventy. I think there's some universities in the West Coast in California. I think they're up over ninety now, Mark, So it's hard to keep up with it all.

1:01:59 So even AI is having a hard time keeping. Up with it. But you know, when you have supposedly an intellectual, a doctor obg y n on the hill hard press to identify and define, you know, whether or not the answer the question was, you know, can a man get pregnant? Right? Right? And all of a sudden, that's that's a question that is nuanced, you know, And well, yeah, I mean you. Get yourself so twisted up with Kresol Pretzel logic, and you know, I mean I don't know how an academic or an intellect could come away with something like that. I mean, I know it stupid is a stupid does right.

1:02:42 But this is where we are right now. And as you said, you know, I said what do we do? And you said repent? Well, yeah, I mean that's that's the first step. But but you got to really understand what repentance is. It's like, uh, you know, when Jonah went to Nineveh and he gave him the message just like you said, of God's judgment impending judgment. They had ears to hear and they responded right. Right, absolutely, And the way I kind of define repentance, it's not being remorseful on its own. You got to stop, right. Some people they don't ever stop, but they have to agree that what they're doing is wrong, that they have to stop doing it, and they have to start doing what there's folks.

1:03:27 To do well. And that's why we're called to be holy, because God is holy. That's the standard. You've got to tune yourself up to God's holiness and righteousness and not that it's in and of yourself. Because we know that Jesus gave us the ultimate sacrifice and paid the price for our sin. But that aside, we still have to say, how are we doing, you know, how are we doing with the with the Jesus quotient? And are we reconciling our behavior so that it you know that it can stand even with the blood of Christ. Can it stand in the presence of a holy God. Yeah.

1:04:07 Too many people try to come to God in their own righteousness. Look what things have done for you. He doesn't want what you've done for him. He wants what he can do through you. But everyone tries to do what they want to do for God and then they get mad at God if he doesn't accept it. Right, And the thing is is that there should be a sense of urgency. And we've kind of suggested as much because you know, even Billy Graham said before he died, when he was asked, are these the last days? He said, oh, these are the last of the last days. Okay, So every day we get closer and closer, and so you know, so how are you going to stand in the presence of a holy God? Yeah I'm not. I'm going to be on my face.

1:04:47 Yeah you me both, Yeah, you me both. But the call is for everybody else who has not answered that question. Yeah, absolutely absolutely. And people they need to realize God as holy as you said, and time is short. I don't think people realize how short the time is. Well, you know, and I was just you know, going through the Christmas season and I was talking to some men and I said, you know, people look at the baby Jesus and the manger, and they see a baby. But what they should be seeing is the King of Kings coming. Back absolutely and he's mad. Right, rightfully so, because you know, the first time he came back, the Bible said, he's not going to bruise a read, he's not going to be busting heads or doing that.

1:05:33 But when he comes back again, he's. Judging absolutely, absolutely. One thing that amazes me, and maybe he can even help me with this. I'll tell you what before we go there, let's go to quick break and we'll pick it up on the other side. More from Mark after this stay with us slaves and gentlemen. Why do I go to the doctor? Working on the farm, my heart kept skipping a beat. I didn't think much of it, but my daughters made me get checked out. Turns out I have atrial fibrillation, which increases the risk of stroke about five times. Symptoms like a regular heartbeat, heart racing, chest pain, shortness of breath, fatigue, or light headedness can come and go, but if it's a fib, the risk of stroke remains. If you have symptoms, contact a doctor. I'm so glad I did visit.

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1:11:10 What's tired? And Sidon going to say, right. But they didn't even have a Bible. So many Christians have four or five Bibles all of the United States in their house and they all collect dust. Yeah, well, still the number one selling book. In fact, Bible book sales up twenty five forty percent in some cases. So people are being called, you know, like you said, we have the sense of urgency. God is moving and people who have ears to hear are responding. And whether or not it ignites so revival, only God knows. We pray that it does. We see evidence of what I call bonfires of revival. But we need something that's going to ignite all these many revivals and really bring us together, which is not going to give us one hundred percent, but it's going to be remarkable, nonetheless.

1:11:56 Right, definitely, I think we do need a catalyst. But I think that catalyst people don't come to God in the good times. You don't come to God into bed type. So God is going to have to bring judgment to bring the catalyst to get people to get serious. Yes, exactly. Let's talk about Israel and Iran. What's going on here? Wow? Crazy, crazy things going on right now. As you know, there's been all these riots in Iran. Trump had threatened to, you know, attack, Well, they've killed two thousand protesters. He has at least I know, and he has an attack they were getting ready to. And then the Arab nations all stepped in and had Iran calmed down, tried to get Trump to calm down so we wouldn't. And so right now Israel's in a very precarious position, is what Trump has put them into, as well as the Iranian citizens who don't want that regime. But that regime is having a breather right now. Where that is not good?

1:13:00 Right Well, you know, God only knows, and it seems that Donald Trump has been the instrument, the tool that God has been using. And you know, like you say, two thousand, I've. Heard as many as twenty thousand people have been murdered, and some of that information. Of course, it's been hard pressed because the Internet is down. There's been some people who have gotten hold of starlinks, and it's been reported marked that those starlinks have been discovered and they've gone in and wiped those families out. Exactly No, that's exactly right. I think a big problem is the media never presents the truth most of the time. People don't realize there are different levels of strategy. Just like the Democrats get all upset thinking Trump is trying to take Greenland or something like that, but they have no clue what is really going on the bigger picture. I think that's a large problem is people really aren't aware of what's actually going on.

1:14:05 Well with Iran, I mean in terms it happens in God's time because as you as you say, Mark, a void can't exist. Iran is not in a position right now to pick up the pieces and set up a government that can control that country right now. Otherwise it'll be another Iraq or some other Middle East country that has gone by the wayside because of the vacuum and lack of leadership. Oh absolutely. I think the big thing is we've got to keep out the Muslim Brotherhood. The Cutter they want to be involved like in Gaza. Turkey wants to be involved in Gaza.

1:14:46 But the thing is we cannot allow them. To help support Iran. Cutter is the worst of all governments in promoting the Muslim Brotherhood, and we don't want that void with the Ayatola. Is gone to be them. I think they ought to have the former shaw Son who was trying to become. The president that he loves Israel. He's not an Islamic radical, so if they want to keep Islam, but they they need to have raised up Popley I believe is his name. He's the one who needs to take control. Well. I think there's there's some other interests there that are looking to embrace more of a Western doctrine. You know, they've been saying, you know, they don't need another monarch.

1:15:32 They certainly don't want another form of theocracy coming in. Uh. They really want to empower the people. And it seems to me that Iran is kind of going through some early stages and reminiscent of what you know America went through in the early days, the early Patriot days, where they they the wa their backs were so much against the wall that they just said, finally, you know, give me, give me death or give me liberty. You know, I'm going to either have liberty or kill me. And that just seems to be the attitude that's being expressed and being demonstrated there in Iran right now from my perspective. Yeah, well, the thing is Persia, Iran has been around for thousands of years. Cyrus, the king of Persia, was very favorable toward Israel. Yes, And what's amazing is many people aren't aware of the Bible. There's an area called Elam.

1:16:26 Elam is where shu Shan was, where Daniel was, where Nehemiah was, where Esther was, where Mordecai was. And in the Bible, God says He's going to put his throne in Elam. So not only will his throne be in Jerusalem, it's going to be in Iran. And I think the reason why is that's where Amelek comes from. The spirit of Amelek to destroy Israel is centered in Iran or Elam. And this is why God is going to put his throne there. And there's prophecies in Jeremiah and in Ezekiel that God is going to destroy Elam because it says they are known for their terror. That's literally what it says three times in a few verses, because you have terrorized the land of the living, I'm taking you down.

1:17:15 So where it stands right now, could it be a fulfillment of that prophecy when the iatola goes down, which seems to be very eminent. Yeah, yep. That's in jaren Maya forty nine thirty five through thirty nine, and then also in Isaiah. But I think that is going to be because listen to this. It says this is what will happen in the end of days. That's literally what the verse is. Ever refers to the end of days. And we know at the end of the days is like you know, what we talked about earlier is that you know, first of all, I want to get this point across to our audience, and that is, first of all, God loves you, right, He loves you more than you have comprehension that you can even get your brain around.

1:18:03 I mean, here is God Almighty who sends his only son to pay the price for our knuckleheadedness, our sin are, our rebellion. He puts him on the cross, sacrifices him. And this is you know, Mark, I was looking at the cross here recently and they show, you know, Jesus that's been cleaned up, nailed to the cross, and I'm going, that's not That's not the Jesus that was on the cross. Jesus on the cross was absolutely I mean sacrificed in a way. It was like he was hung you know together, his body parts were hung together by just basically you know, parts of skin. I mean, he was so brutalized. But we look at a very Western pristine, you know, Jesus on the cross and it's going.

1:18:53 Man, When you when you can see Jesus on the cross the way he was sacrificed and crucified, then I think you start having a different perspective about God's love for you. That's what brings true repentance. The problem is, this is why we have a Black Jesus, a Mexican Jesus, a Chinese Jesus, and American Jesus. Because everyone tries to create God in their own image. Realizing we're all created in his But this is what even Christianity has done to a big effect. You know, Joseph wasn't recognized by his brothers because he looked Egyptian. Well, the problem is that Church today has been presenting an Egyptian Jesus to. The Jews for the last two thousand.

1:19:34 Years, right exactly. Well, Mark, we're gonna have to leave it here. And as always, I appreciate the time. You got about forty seconds left. The Final Tyrant, your next oh. My gosh, that's coming out in June. People can go to Amazon and sign up. I talk about how the Antichrist is going to be a Christian. He's going to be a professing Christian and it's gonna blow everybody away. The Final Tyrant on Amazon. So make sure you check it out and the website they can check out in the meanwhile. ESM dot us. That's our website ESM dot us for United States. Well, Mark Beltz, the one and only. He is an israel Iran expert and a prophecy expert as well.

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1:25:31 So I appreciate that. Yeah. Absolutely. For people who don't know my background, I grew up as a son of a brick layer. I've done hvac. I've done roofing, I've done worked in factories. I've worked outside in the middle of winter in Canada. I've done I've drilled concrete under houses for weeks and end. Growing up so very hard labor. My dad was a brick layer, so. He didn't give you a silver spoon or something. To oh, silver spoon. It's funny my my dad was. I was on the scaffolding because I was building a chimney with my dad, both smoking cigarettes, as you know construction workers do. And he goes, hey, son, you want to learn how to lay bricks? I said no. He goes, why that. I said, that'll become a brick player. He goes, good point, you never asked me again, So.

1:26:18 Your observations paid paid dividends for you, right. Yeah, absolutely. I was always very entrepreneur. I hated school. I still don't have a high school diploma. But I'm financially independent, so that's okay. I guess they don't need a The good thing is you don't need a formal education to get financially free. It's actually fairly simple. It took me about sixty thousand hours of research. I was a financial advisor, investment advisor. I used to train big teams of financial advisors. I was the financial advisor for CPAs. I learned that the whole financial system is just corrupt to the core. It's main and seer not going to win. It's there just just to keep your head just above water. Right, And of course a lot of other people make money when you do that.

1:27:03 Yeah, it's kind of amazing. Two things here. First of all, you're doing all this without a high school diploma. So yeah, right, So did you get a GED or anything like that? I still have no. I've never got a GED. I actually left after grade nine because my parents weren't around, and I was hanging around with some bad kids, and I was hanging out with a good friends of mine. But yeah, and then I tried to go to school in Los Angeles, but it was gang infested neighborhood that my parents were living in, so I kept getting robbed of my knife point I got like my teeth knocked out at school one day, and I said, I'm not going to school anymore. So I went laid breaks with my dad again. So I did go to college for a couple of years in Canada, because you can go to college. I went for business finance, you know, economics. I was like, college is a scam too, because I'd give any credit cards as a student owns.

1:27:51 So I kind of knew college was a scam too. But it was a good time. It was. It was a lot of fun with my friends in Canada to go to college for a couple of years exactly. And then I dropped out of there too. So I dropped out of college too. But here you graduate. You graduated basically from the school of hard knocks, which is life, right. Yeah, very much. I just wanted to jump in. I thought school was stupid. I'm sitting at a class listening to a teacher. I thought it was the dumbest idea ever. I just thought I was like, I've got way better things to do than listen to these people. So yeah, wen't go to school. So yeah, yeah, I mean it's like you'd be better off doing it. I mean, for me, a little bit similar story in terms of broadcasting school. I go to broadcasting school and I go, I'm wasting my time in this classroom. I was there to get an FCC first Class license, and I thought, hey, I need to get out of there. And my teachers were really upset because after about three and a half weeks, I went and took the test and I aced it, you know, because because all it was was memorization, and so I aced the test and they were like upset with me because they wanted me to go through the eight week cycle.

1:28:53 And I figure, well, I'm in classroom. I'm not making money. I need to be out there behind the microphone making money, right. Absolutely. Yeah. Unfortunately, schools weren't built to create independent thinkers. They were create They were actually created to create people who don't think, who just do what they're told. That's what schools were created for. People don't forget that. And worse than that, they've done studies on this. Four years of four years of college almost completely destroys your ability to independently think. They got studies on this. Yeah, the more education you get education, I'll put it in quotes, the least you can can't. You can't think anymore. I'm just an independent thinker. Like I don't have a high school diploma. I hate reading. But I've written four books.

1:29:37 Go figure out kind of figure it out, right, I mean the first one took five years. It is a long time, but I'm persistent. So well, it's interesting you'd made mention before that the system really ends up enslaving you. Probably before you were born. I grew up and there was a song from Tennessee Ernie Ford that was out, This is Oh my Soul to the company Store, and that was do you remember that, my chance? I mean I. Kind of remember. I think my parents would told me about that. Now. Yeah, Well, the idea was back in the days in our agricultural economy, people got enslaved and there was a company store that always everything, that controlled where you bought your food. I did, and then it was a little bit of exchange and all that, and it was geared in such a way. I think the percentage was somewhere around fifteen twenty percent. Okay, and on that they owed your soul because you were beholden to the company store for everything. It's kind of like socialism the way it has developed.

1:30:38 That's on the horizon right now. They want to find a way to enslave you and cancel any kind of critical thinking independently people like you and I. They want to get rid of Mark because we're an encumbrance to their operation. Right well, I'm definitely a thorn in their side, their side because I built a company that teaches ordinary Americans these strategies. We've taunted over six hundred ordinary Americans and we're actually going into home schools. We're teaching these strategies for children thirteen to eighteen. We have to get them away from this this horrible schooling system. I mean, our schooling system is failing. I mean fifty percent of the population graduate in high school can't get it. It can read it between grade six and grade nine reading levels.

1:31:23 It's horrible. They're just, they're they're just. And then when you do get educated, I'll give you, I'll give you a real example, so they teach you this. In the financial service industry, they say sell your client five products. Okay, if you sell them five products. They're your client for life. They teach you that well the banking industry. That came from the banking industry, and I wrote my first book about this. They want to teach you to basically work hard, pay your taxes, save money, get good credit, fund to retirement account. That's certain thing, right, that's the system. So when you're young, they want to get you a checking account and a saving count. That's two products, right, check account saying that, then they get oh, get you the student credit card in college. Now they got you three.

1:32:07 They've got to get you like a roth Ira and then an auto loan boom. You're stuck. You're going to go back to that megabank for your financial education. And then what you don't know is the financial advisors. It's all all. The source of financial education is actually a private is a private company funded by the banks. All financial literacy comes from megabanks who have a responsibility to dig you into high interest credit card debt, pay you nothing on your money, and charge you the highest fees. And they don't want you to retire. They sell your retirement account because you become a permanent worker for the system. Retirement accounts are made to keep you working, not to retire you wow. And and then the bank is getting their vig right.

1:32:49 Yeah, they're turning they're turning the population into a multi generational passive income stream for a Wall Street sell your retirement accounts, that's the perfect passive income stream. The entire population. Just it's like milking. It's like milking you know, cattle. Right exactly. Get you get milked for a while, and then eventually they slaughter you, you know what I mean. So the population, unfortunately they don't know it, but that's what that's what Wall Street looks at them. Like, yeah, they lose you to they use you to the last drop, right. They do, Yeah, and then they slaughter you at the end. Right, that's what I'm saying, down to the last drop, whatever's left there, whatever blood may be left in the body, they're going to wring that. Out as well. Now, your strategy is for everyday Americans. I mean it's not for somebody. I mean, look at if you have desire, there's something that's pulling you and waking you up in the middle of night saying hey, it shouldn't be this way, and that you have maybe some kind of a wealthy Q.

1:33:43 So to speak. Okay, it's not fully developed, but your system helps develop that for the individuals. So it's not like you have to come in with, you know, ten thousand dollars or anything. It's just hey, simple steps wherever you're at right now to where it can lead and give you a road to financial independence. Right. Absolutely, Yeah, we have very baby We sort of borrowed Dave Ramsey's baby steps. Baby Step number one is understand what the billionaires use. It's called buy borrow. Simply buy assets. You can start with one hundred dollars in your brokerage account. Let's say you buy one hundred dollars a week. Just never sell it. You grow your assets and never bats as if you don't sell them.

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1:39:04 Are you jealous? Hey? Look it. He's done all the hard work and he's got some great strategies for us. So Mark, you said, number one is we're going through the process. You know, get some assets, right, go ahead. Well, basically you just you have to work for your income. But when you take your income, don't throw it into retirement account. Those things are ridiculous, they're traps. Put it a brokerage account, right, and it's all in the book that how to do it. You can start with one hundred bucks, you start funding a brokerage account. Stocks ETFs you can buy gold ETFs, silver ETFs, Bitcoin ETFs you can buy ETF to generate income. So you just fund it and you never sell it. If you never sell it, you'll never pay taxes. Once the asset grows over two thousand dollars, you're gonna have a thing called a margin account.

1:39:45 You can borrow at low interest rates and send money to your bank account. Well, that money is not taxed because loans aren't taxed. It's a very simple system. I can teach this to a thirteen year old like, WHOA, that's easy, right, anybody can learn it. And then when you die, you can pass up to thirty million dollars if you're married to your family tax free. That's under current tax codes. Buy, borrow, die. That's simple. Not my strategy, by the way, it's actually coined in the nineteen nineties at the University of Southern California Gold School of Law. Yep, so okay, so go ahead, all right. So then the next step, what do we do? Well? Basically, when you when you grow those assets, you borrow from them. So I use five assets stocks, ETFs, life insurance, real estate, cryptocurrency, and precious metals. As I fund them, I never sell them. I can borrow from one asset to buy the other asset.

1:40:39 Interesting. Yeah, and then even I could even send money to my bank account and go on vacation. And I went on vacation with money that didn't exist, and it's never been taxed. This is awesome, what a plan. And I got to imagine you mentioned number four crypto. A lot of a lot of you know, cryptos in the headlines these days, and that seems to be like the new frontier here, right, you know what. I wouldn't say crypto in general. I'm a big fan of bitcoin. Bitcoin has an absolute limited supply of twenty one million, about ninety five percent of it exists today, so it has limited supply. People don't realize that money is not pieces of paper. It's actually digital entries in a computer. Okay, literally ninety percent of it is just digital entries in a computer. You create money. When you swipe a credit card, you actually create money. It's just other families are getting wealthy. When you buy a home, you borrow digital entries in a computer. Right, that's tax free.

1:41:35 I buy my real estate with digital entries in a computer. That's it. That's called a mortgage. Right, that's amazing. It's not tax free. I get to own the real estate. I didn't have to work for the money. I didn't have to pay taxes on it. So people are scared of debt. But there's there's good debt and there's bad debt. So once person realizes this, either you're your family is either making other families wealthy because they're getting rich your money, or you're highly educated and you're using other people's money, which is debt, to get wealthy. Well exactly, yeah, you said something, you know, you said good debt, bad debt, right, yeah, Okay, break that down for our audience so they understand the difference here.

1:42:17 Okay, good bad debt is when you buy things that go down in value. They typically have unlimited supply. Cars, you can just create more of them, TVs, just produce some mass. They go down in value because they have unlimited supply. Thing with limited supply gold, silver, copper, bitcoin, real estate, I mean artwork. The rich do this with artwork. I mean they literally put artwork on their wall and then they take a loan secured by the artwork to buy other assets. So things with limited supply, anything with a limited supply will go up in value. Anything with unlimited supply will go down in value. I'll give your real example. The US dollar has unlimited supply. Toilet paper doesn't, so toilet paper actually goes up as the dollar goes down.

1:43:05 So toilet paper has a better store of value than the US dollar. What does that tell you think about that? It's true? I know, I'm I'm you know that makes total sense. And anything with live it is a lot. Yeah, invest in things with limited supply. They go up in value as the dollar goes down. So your debt disappears, right because your real estate's going up as inflation, your gold's going up, and then your debt just disappears when you borrow from it using fake fake fiit currency. Federal Reserve notes are fake currency. It's not real money. It just it goes down as the assets go up. So why would I want to work for money when I can get educated to invest, grow my assets, borrow from one asset to buy another asset. The dollar's going down as the assets going up, so I don't really care. I'm not trying to get out of debt. I'm actually taking more.

1:43:56 Every second of every single day, I'm taking on more debt, and I'm getting wealthy doing it because I don't have to work or pay taxes on those assets. Yeah, and what does that do for any kind of credit rating? Mark, It doesn't affect my credit. There's no application, no credit there's no application, no credit check. It doesn't report to my credit. And there's no required payments on the loans. I don't even make payments on the debt because they're all back it's all backed by my ETFs and gold, silver, bitcoin, all that those assets are there. They don't even care if I make the payments on the loans and actually don't make payments on the loans. And here's the crazy part. The IRS is pretty clear on this. Even if I don't make I'll pay about fifty thousand dollars year in interest on borrowing eight hundred thousand dollars on my brokerage account.

1:44:42 I get to write off the fifty thousand on my taxes even if I don't pay it. These are IRS rules. And I didn't pay taxes on the eight hundred thousand dollars I borrowed. It was tax free. Mark. Do these kids, I mean, you're getting into homeschooling, bring them the power of this educational tool into homeschooling. I mean, and now you also have the other dynamic going on with these Trump accounts. Of course they're not ready for homeschool, but they could be down the road certainly, And they've got one thousand dollars in their account when they're born. And some of these businesses are realizing the benefit of it because it helps with employee retention and they say, hey, look at we're going to add to that thousand dollars and we're going to take some of that money because for them it's deliberable tax free right accounts as a deduction for them, So it's win win all the way around.

1:45:40 So you imagine the the IQ of these of this generation. I mean, I say that what's going to happen is we're going to have. Like the the the a modern day or maybe even the double baby baby boomer boom. You know that's going on, that's going to be coming around the corner. Because I'm a thousand dollars I mean, and of course I'm here in Florida right now. The weather's really cold, and so people are cuddling up pretty good. Here right now there you go. You know, so, hey, we could have a real baby boom going on just around the corner here. Stay tuned there we go. Yeah, but they're gonna have They're gonna have one thousand dollars in their account by the time they're eighteen, I don't know, somewhere maybe thirty fifty grand in their account to play with.

1:46:23 Yeah, you don't realize that. I just I just again, we started homeschooling do this for homeschools called Classical Classical learner dot com. God damn Brett Brett Pike doing his homeschools. I mean, I got a nine year old who was already running a business in homeschool. He has nineteen thousand dollars he's saved up from working and running his little business right and his parents opened up is opening up a broker's account for nineteen thousand dollars when he's nine years old, and he's gonna be able to bring the Bible or Die strategy at nine. I mean, he'll become a billionaire. There's there's no doubt about it. So you can create a lot of millionaires like this. I became a millionaire. I did become a millionaire in the financial service industry when I was a financial advisor. That was that was just brutal. Was like working as a slave for Wall Street. And none of your clients are getting wealthy.

1:47:12 They're all just buying retirement accounts. Nobody is getting ahead. Ridiculous industry, what a total, total, complete sky am. And again, the financial advisors are super ethical, they want to help people, but they don't know what it is either. They don't even know that the regulatory authority that provides their financial education is a private bank funded by the banks, and they don't want them to win either. I mean, come on, do you think the financial service Do you think big government and Wall Street educated the financial advisors so they could become financially free and page zero taxes, so then they could educate their clients to do the same. Not going to happen, I don't think so. Yeah, exactly. Well, mark out of these guys. I mean, I'm in Florida and in the south of US, you know, Jupiter, Jupiter Island, other you know, other areas.

1:47:58 They've got a lot of financial guys down there. I mean the homes that they're buying out. There's one guy he's building a home a billion dollars. He's got a billion dollars in the home. How are these guys getting this money? They're definitely using buyborrode. It's just there's there's no faster way to build wealth just the buy assets you borrow from them. When the stock market crashes, it's really easy to make money when you're financially where you're veryly highly educated financially, if the stock market move goes down thirty percent, I can make ten times in my money pretty quickly. So the higher your financial IQ, the faster you get wealthy. So I spent four and a half years teaching at to over six hundred Americans. I got six hundred people who I'm trying to duplicate my courses. I have a company to public public you know, is teach you to fit raise your financial IQ, teach you to fish so you know what to do what I do, and then automate your income. So that's the three goals for our people who want financially independent, people that are able to go out and do things that they rather than work like a slave.

1:49:03 Yeah, exactly. How novel is that? I love it to be financially independent and live rich. Why not? I Mean there's a choice here, right, and it's not that big. It's not that big a choice, right when it comes down to it other than where do you want to end up? It's amazing how many people will watch this and they won't do anything about it. They'll literally just brush it off. Some people will, though, but it is very few people are one willing to spend the time to learn it. Two, they're closed minded because they've been brainwashed by Dave Ramsey and schools and financial advisors. They've literally been taught to do the wrong things. And then three, some people aren't willing to spend money on financial literacy. They won't even buy a book. Crazy. They'll pay millions of dollars in taxes, but they won't spend twenty five dollars on a book, or they won't they'll never buy a course. I spent over one hundred thousand dollars on financial education myself, and I spent over sixty thousand dollars studying it. Yeah, I packaged it up and said this is the best that I've got in writing four books. Most people won't do anything about it. That's their fault. My job is to give them an opportunity. They don't do anything about it. Hey, I tried.

1:50:11 Some will says it's on them, Well, God bless you. For this. I mean, this is really a gift in so many ways, Mark, that you are taking your experience and packaging it up and making it available for other people. You're paying it forward, no doubt. What's what's the website and how can we connect with you? The Perfect Portfolio dot Com is the website. I can send you a link if you want. I have a live event. I only do it four times a year. Off February fourth, which is Wednesday, I'm doing a live event on Zoom. We'll be covering everything like that. Somebody can come and tend three classes for free. We don't charge them anything. Just come look at it, learnt. I don't need your money, trust me, no, just come come check it out. A February fourth, So the Perfect Portfolio dot Com would be the best place to message.

1:50:55 Us you got it. Mark Kwan, author of the book Be Smart, pay zero taxes. Like you said, some will make the leap and others won't. But hey, you can't. You can't complain and said you didn't and tell us you didn't know, right, because now you. Know, yeah, totally. People don't realize that about ninety seven percent of the population will either retire in poverty, or work until they die. Do I've run the numbers. It's scary. People don't realize what's coming, but it's it's very bad for most people. But again, the rich get richer because they're using this strategy. The poor get poorer because they're buying retirement accounts and trying to save money and get good credit and get out of debt. Unfortunate but true.

1:51:38 Mark, let me ask you this. We're going to extend this just a little bit because I think the key here is that in light of what Trump is doing and promoting this golden age for America, we've got to tariff money coming in. It just seems like he's doing a lot. Of positive things that's going to make it really your your plan fit nicely and kind of go hand in glove. Am I overthinking this or do you see this as a as a great opportunity as well. Yeah, there's a correlation on energy and wealth. Basically, what it comes down to is this. This is true everywhere in the world. If the people who have the most abundant energy are the wealthiest people on the planet, the people with no energy are the poorest people on the planet.

1:52:24 So energy is wealth. We're investing heavily in energy, energy as wealth that will bring wealth to America. What is energy power? It binds bitcoin mining, it, it provides power for artificial intelligence, these types of things. Right, Manufacturing is coming back to the United States. Trump's been in office for a year or he's trying to reverse fifty years of free trade, right, fifty years of sending factories and business to other countries to enrich other countries. So, yeah, we're in a great There's a huge opportunity for people to invest in AI, invest in energy, in in those things that are building are going to build the future. Invest in those things. Don't sell, borrow, and you can build wealth. It's not that hard. It's very simple, right, And you have AI to do the research for you literally.

1:53:14 So yeah, and I like what you said earlier in terms of crypto, you said and in general that's too broad. You need to really hone in on bitcoin right now. And that's the that is really the backbone and infrastructure of crypto is bitcoin. Right, Yeah, Bitcoin, Bitcoin is the there would be no crypto without bitcoin. Bitcoin is the one with twenty one million. It's like it's like the it's like the mona Lisa you're buying a piece of the mona Lisa, right. Eventually all the rich people are going to buy up all the bitcoin corporations. Harvard bought one hundred and eighteen million dollars a bitcoin. Eventually they'll buy up all the bitcoin. It'll be a million bucks per bitcoin. It might be twenty and thirty five by the time that happens, but eventually they'll be just there's this this small, a shrinking supply of bitcoin in the world, and big money knows what's coming. They're just going to keep buying it silently and then there'll be no more supply and it'll it'll go up.

1:54:08 And you say, real, roughly, what there's about ten to fifteen percent of bitcoin remaining? Think there's only only less than five percent. Ninety five percent is already in existence. There's only five percent left for the entire world to fight over to share. Yeah, exactly. Well, Mark Qua, thank you so much, appreciate the time and the information. And again, February the fourth is the day for this. If they happen to miss that, I guess just go to your website, right, yeah, the. Perfect Portfolio dot com. And again we run this all year long. Some people join in the middle of the course and halfway through the course. We also have a live video course on the perfect on our website, so some people can just learn at whatever level they want to start with the book and learn rate. Start with the book. It's twelve bucks on Amazon right now. It's like pretty cheap book, great content in there. It's not boring.

1:54:56 I hate I hate finance and taxtbooks. I think they're unread. They're horrible. Yeah, brutal. I try and write fun, fun books where you know a bricklayer could read it and guard I think I got. I mean, yeah, you've been there, You've done that, you know. And for twelve dollars to get you on the road to financial independence. Who what a deal? Telling you Markwan, thank you for being with us. Appreciated take care. I enjoyed it. Thanks Bill. Pay job. If you're sixty five or older and Medicare is your main source of insurance, pay close attention right now and listen for details on how you may save thousands of dollars on your healthcare costs. Did you know that Medicare can pay for things like gentle visits, home delivery of drugs, even a gym membership. Call us right now and learn how to unlock all your Medicare benefits. Medicare and supplemental plans that we provide can even offer you drug coverage with zero copays and pay for transportation to your doctors.

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