Bill Martinez Live
Feb. 2, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 02 02 26

The Bill Martinez Show 02 02 26
The Bill Martinez Show 02 02 26
Bill Martinez Live
The Bill Martinez Show 02 02 26
The Bill Martinez Show 02 02 26
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0:00 Are you ready? Yeah, Okay, let's do an Ill Martinas Live a program about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and our future. And now Bill Martinez. Good morning America. Good to have you with us. Six minutes after the top of the hour. Right now, we've got Paul ken Gore, Professor of Political Science, Chief Academic Fellow of the East Super Faith and Freedom of Grove City College. Hey, Paul, good morning, Happy New year. Yeah, and Sam you Bill good morning. Hey. Lots to catch up on before we talk about Trump and the new World Order. I want to address Minneapolis here. Help me understand Minneapolis is harboring criminals in one former fashion, call it what it is. And this whole idea and concept of a sanctuary city that's been allowed to impinge upon our US Constitution continues to cause all kinds of problems and promote lawlessness, particularly in Minnesota.

1:01 Why is that a problem? Well, I find it interesting that once again you have liberals who are big advocates of states rights. Right. I mean, anytime you get a Republican who talks about the state's rights, which was really state's rights simply means the tenth Amendment of the US Constitution, where it says that the power power is not reserved to the federal government, are reserved to the states. And I mean, yeah, that's a long We call that federalism. James Madison, who was the father of the Bill of Rights, the first ten amendments to the Constitution, called that. That became known as Madison's middle Ground. And you know here again, so you know, now, all of a sudden, these people are just these wild states rights advocates who tell them, you know, Donald Trump has no business doing whatever in their state. But but you know, but this is a federal issue, yes, and yeah, it's a federal issue because what you have is people that are in the country legally, and so they they've broken laws to get here. And you know, you know, these ice agents are really just doing their jobs. I mean a lot of them themselves are probably children of immigrants, perhaps immigrants themselves, people who came here legally. And you know, this was all bequeathed by Joe Biden. Four years of the chaos of Joe Biden, and now Donald Trump has left to clean it up, and you've got a real mess.

2:29 The mayor of Minneapolis is awful. Tim Walls, who could have been Vice President of the United States. Yeah, and and and you have you know, the these people go, you know, they deliberately go to places where ice agents are and they protest and harass and agitate them. And I mean, you know, you and I you know, you grew up. You and I grew up with dads. We're dads now. When our dads told us as kids, and we tell our sons. You know, if you ever get stopped by a policeman, you just say yes, sir, okay, sir. You respect you respect authority. Yeah, exactly. Provoke the oh yeah, people with guns.

3:12 You know, Paul I was mentioning to another guest here. Did you ever see that Chris Rock video that he did back in the early two thousands. It was addressed to young black men. The title was, you know, I won't you know, uh say the title exactly because our audience might be sensitive to it, but you can imagine. And Chris Rock's own words was how not to get your butt kicked by the police and uh funny but yet common sensical. And I think that that ought to be on a loop in Minnesota because they need some common sense there, and because the things that they're doing is absolutely lawless, you know, and from the get go, because the predicate, like you said, the predicate of all this is not only you know Biden Obama before that, but then you've got the sanctuary city that I don't see the legal grounds for sanctuary cities that basically harbor criminals. And I thought harboring a criminal was an offense.

4:10 Well or at the very least, yeah, harbor well, you know, harboring people who are breaking the law by being there, right, And I mean that, And and those laws were created by Congress. In fact, you know, the master of deportation was Barack Obama. People forget this all the time, and and and Obama. Well, Donald Trump just came in and said, you know, I'm going to follow the laws that the Congress established. Now, the difference here in all of this, which created this chaos was Joe Biden. And Biden didn't want to follow those laws. Well basically, I mean, frankly, candidly, I think Biden just didn't want to do anything. It just seemed like for four years, you know that the the you know, the the President of the United States was asleep. I mean when when when Donald Trump called him sleepy Joe, you know, back during the campaign, the campaigns, I mean that, you know, that was that was right on.

5:05 I mean, the guy we had an auto pen running the country, you know, you and I marveled many times at how Joe Biden, who was somebody that when he was in the Senate and even when he was Vice president under Obama, could be somewhat more moderate on some of the cultural issues, right abortion, the High Amendment. I mean, you know, he he was always pro choice, but you know, but he but he said, look, you shouldn't have to make religious believers violate their conscience right pay for things that they don't want to pay for. And then all of a sudden, because he becomes president, he becomes one of the most radical culture warriors in the history of the office, which had to make me wonder if who was running the country frankly, probably not him.

5:48 Well and clearly the other thing is that came out quite uh was quite evident, was his lack of lucidity. Yes, yeah, it's exactly right. And that lack of acidity, you know, yeah, between being asleep at the at the wheel, a lack of lucidity really cognitive awareness. And we saw that. I remember remember the doctor's report. I'm trying to think who the doctor was who talked about you know, how appalled he was when he when he interviewed Joe Biden. You know what, the man couldn't even remember about basic stuff and his family, let alone win in the United States. And of course with the Democrats, they really didn't care about all this because they look at all these people coming in illegally as Democrat voters, you know.

6:33 Even even a special Paul, even a special prosecutor. Remember he interviewed to me, he said, he's so feeble. He couldn't you know, he couldn't handle the pressure of of a you know, of a courtroom process, and then he couldn't remember things, you know, again reinforcing what the doctors had established earlier. And of course it was everything that we've seen. And I'm thinking, my goodness, I mean, what did he have at that point? Still another year and a half of his presidency, and the special prosecutor himself identifies that this man is deficient, and we still let him have the keys to the nuclear suitcase. Well, that's exactly right. And and we had waiting in the wings was Vice President Kamala Harris.

7:17 Right, and she and she was. You know, she was very much aware of all of this, and you know, she she didn't talk about it at the time, and when she was asked about it during about Biden's potential dementia or whatever it was that he might have had, she denied it. And she denied it all the way through into the campaign, into the summer of twenty twenty four, and then all of a sudden, she just gets anointed with the you know, these people who preach, you know, democracy, democracy. Right, she didn't win a single she didn't win a single primary vote. Biden won them all, and then they were all just given to her and she got the nomination, but she helped cover this up. Yeah, and so circling back to what you're talking about in Minneapolis, you know, this was a crisis created by Biden, whether through incompetence, unawareness, you know, cognitive deficiencies, you know, and maybe even perhaps malice wanting to flood the border, or maybe advisors around him doing it.

8:20 And now it's left to Donald Trump to clean it up. And that makes Trump the bad guy. And really what's even worse about this is it makes all these poor Ice agents. You know, how would you like that job? Off exactly. How would you like that job? I mean, Greg Bavino said, thank you very much for giving me a reassignment. I need this job like I need a hole in the head. I don't care how much you're paying me. It's not worth it, you know, to have myself, my own life threatened, my family threatened, all this stuff. He's not getting the support of local officials, the lawlessness. That's taking place. And then Donald Trump is walking a tight wire here politically as well, and so probably for working their tails off, putting their lives in danger, Greg Bovino and Christy Nome and others may end up paying the price.

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14:06 Yeah, well, it's exactly right, and it's their job as basically, you know, sort of law enforcement officers, right or people enforcing the law of the land. And among the things that the president agrees to in the Constitution is to protect the security of the United. States, right, exactly. That's one thing. I mean, you could argue about other aspects of presidential authority, if the president has the right to do this or that, even if you even if Donald Trump has the right to negotiate what he's negotiating with Greenland, I suppose, right, But on something like this, yeah, I mean, this is the purview of the President of the United States certainly people like Department of Justice, the chief law enforcement officer.

14:51 So really they're just doing their jobs. You know, A lot of this reminds me. You and I are both old enough to at least remember this from the you know, late sixties, nineteen seventies and early nineteen eighties, we were closer to this period. It kind of reminds me of Kent State. Yes, and where you know, the one President Richard Nixon National Guard in Ohio, and you know that actually happened on the sending into the National Guard. That actually happened on college campuses throughout the country that year. And in many cases you had students who would go up and agitate and provoke these poor National Guard kids for you know, like twenty twenty one, twenty two year old kids, young people with guns when they're twenty four to seven. And Kent State was just a complete zoo. I mean, they the students were constantly throwing rocks at the National guardsmen, throwing molotov cocktails, going up, calling them every possible name.

15:54 You had once again kind of foul potty mouth what today we would call woke women going up and f bombing them, and and you know, you know, flashing them and like provocatory ways, and you're doing everything that they could to set these guys off. And at some point, I mean, these people are only human, They're not they're not cyborgs. And and. Eventually you're gonna get to the point where somebody who's holding a gun is going to pull a trigger, whether under pressure or or even accidental. You know, this is part of One of the reasons that presidents Reagan and Gorbachev and Kennedy and Khrushchev put the red line the hot line in the White House and the Kremlin is because there's always the possibility of, you know, something accidentally happening exactly exactly, somebody setting off the bomb, somebody pulling the trigger, someone pushing the button, so to set so to have these left wing agitators on social media and everything going all around the country provoking these guys. I mean, you're you're you know, you're asking for it. You're you're asking for something to happen. You don't go and goof off around people with guns. I tell my kids, right, guns are not something you play with. My mom always told me, right, Unloaded guns are what kill people. Right to be like, oh mom, come on, if it's unloaded, it can't kill people.

17:24 You know. The whole point of that is, well, you never know. You might think it's unloaded, right, and it turns out to be loaded. You know, these aren't toys, and be grown ups, be responsible and try to realize above all these ice agents, I wouldn't be surprised if half of them are registered Democrats, right, you know, these are these are human beings and and you need to treat them differently. Yeah, I'll tell you I could never do their job. I was sharing with my wife. I just said that if I was a police officer and I had a woman blowing a whistle in my face, I might take care of that problem really quick. And that wouldn't be Yeah. I mean that kind of thing pushes you on edge.

18:06 Yeah, put you on. And then you have local officials, you have the governor, you have the mayor, you have the attorney general promoting this kind of behavior and lawlessness. I mean it's just like here it is. I mean, you didn't see enough and experience enough during the George Floyd rites, And interestingly enough, here we are ground Central again. Billions of dollars of damage and all this stuff. And this wackiness and defunding police coming out of Minnesota. And now it's we're going to defund ice. Okay, so we're going to defund ice. So what's your idea. Seventy seven million voters said enough is enough. We need to get these illegal immigrants out of here. And we're not talking about somebody that just you know, goes and mows your lawn or you know, changes your betting. We're talking some really bad people that have been involved in sex trafficking, murder, rape.

18:58 Children. I mean, now they're talking, you know, Paul, they're talking as many as five hundred thousand kids are still lost. Well, and unfortunately it's the ICE agents that have to do the enforcement, right, and they know none of that, and you know, they don't know the difference between I mean, look, i mean, out of ten illegal immigrants, right, I mean, I'm sure that nine out of ten are good people, right, But but all you need is one out of ten who's not. And hey, it only took nineteen to create all kinds of problems, you know, back in two thousand and one. Right, Well, that's right, that's right. And really, and I mean, frankly, what we're seeing right now in Minnesota and elsewhere, these blow ups, they're not even caused by the actual legal immigrants. They're caused by by you know, woke, middle aged white liberals going again and agitating to that.

19:53 So we're finding we're finding out also, Paul, do you got these people? You got the CCP involved with it, got Soros's group, you got Black Lives Matter, you have Antifa, you've got Iran tentacles in here. I mean they're all they're all involved in supporting these people, because look at the signs. I mean they look all professional. The equipment that these agitators have, I mean, these aren't cheap, cheap accessories that they're bringing to this, you know, would be riot right. Well, yeah, they're professional agitators. In fact, they teach my course on Marxism at Grove City College right now in the current semester, and one of the things we do when we start class is I'll pull up on the big overhead screen the latest websites and postings by Communist Party USA, which is CPUSA dot org People's World, which is the successor to the Daily Worker, the flagship of the Communist Party USA, the website of RevCom, Revolutionary Communist Party USA DSA, Democratic Socialists of America, the Trotskyists, the Militant, their publication, and all of them have have have have ads, have calls, have have places to go directing people where to go to protest what's happening with Ice. So you know, so this is a call to arms, or at least to call it a protest.

21:20 Right. In some cases, apparently some of these people are actually armed to go there and agitate. And by the way, and and also that should be pointed out, the ICE agents don't know who's arm right. I mean, it's bad enough if someone could run you over in a car or might want to bite your finger off. But you know, one of these these people start carrying guns and uh. And there are planning sessions you could find online amongst some of these far left groups about teaching people firearms, how to use firearms. So they are rightly on edge. These people, like a lot of our cops, God bless them, their their wives and kids. Yeah, when you don't know if they're going to see see them home that night for dinner.

22:06 Well exactly. And and as you say, I mean in this last unfortunate and I say an unfortunate situation on one hand, you know, and I say for the uh for the officer involved here with Alex Pretty's uh death. But what's what's Alex Pretty thinking? I mean, he brings a gun into a situation that's going to be confrontational, it's loaded. Uh. I mean, come on, I mean I want to have I want to have sympathy, but I also want to say, you know, people, people like that are just playing stupid, They're they're asking for problems. Well, if if a if a police officer, I have a concealed carry permit, right, yeah, if a police officer would pull me over in my car for like a burnout headlight, right and we still do all the time, or for whatever else and says to me something like he little mister kangoorid, do you have any firearms in the car? Right? I would say, yes, sir, I do, sir, I have I have a concealed carry permit, sir, and it's it's in my bag over there. And you know, just tell me whatever you want me to do, right if I don't even.

23:21 Wait, I don't even wait for them to ask me, Paul, I tell them I go, look at I have a conciled carry permit I have. I have a weapon in the car with me right now. And so just just you're aware, and I make sure they see my hands. That's the one thing that my dad always said. You put your hands on the top of the steering wheel, turn the if it's at night, you turn the interior light on, so that you're giving the officer every bit of help that he needs in order to do his job and he's not threatened in any way that it's like oop, sorry, accident. You know, we don't need that. Yeah, every single cop show you watch on TV, right, the cops are yelling, right, put up your hands, put up your hands. And it's when you don't put up your hands that they get really angry and pin you to the ground, push you down, put your hands beyond the back and handcuff your Yeah, you have to. You don't mess with police, with ice agents. You don't mess with people who have guns. Liberal guns are not toys. Yes, okay, you know, so have some sympathy, be decent, and you know, quit agitating and provoking so many of these poor people.

24:35 Could you imagine doing that job like like fifty sixty hours a week. I mean, you and I be like, we're on phones, we're on computers right now. Well, we could walk into our kitchen, get something to drink. I'll get in my car, drive over to the college, teach a class. Maybe drop off. Imagine just being at one of these rallies in freezing cold weather every day while people are screaming at you, I mean exactly, Imagine what the anxiety and stress that that these people are unders. Yeah, can you say PTSD, Yes, these people mentally are going to be It's it's impossible to be affected by that. I mean they are fellow human beings that have been called to do a job that if they don't do it, who is going to do it?

25:21 Paul? Right? Right, Yeah, no, that's right. Well, we got to leave it there, Paul. As always, we appreciate the insight. Hey, next time we get together, we'll talk about the new World Order that Trump announced, the DeVos. Maybe bugs are out in real meat, maybe coming back? What do you think? Yeah, yeah, quite wist. Yes for fun. You got it all right, Doctor Paul Kengar, Professor of Political Science and Chief Academic Fellow at the Institute for Faith and Freedom of Grove City College. Thank you, Paul, Happy new year, my friend. Save you Bill, Thanks take care, I got it. Thank you. How would you like to get high speed internet for your home for less than two dollars a day? That's right, for about fifty bucks a month, you'll get lightning fast internet.

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29:37 Good? Bill? The storm has finally started to The snow's starting to melt here in Dallas. We don't know how to deal with snow in Dallas. We don't have trucks with sand and salt. The roads just iceover and everybody stays home. I was locked in my house for four days. I was going curtzy. Oh no, wow, that's great. Well, better that you stay home than risk the elements, because as I've been talking to people, is like, okay, you you get the snow out of the way, and uh then you got ice underneath, and it's like, man, you're driving on ice cubes. That's dangerous. Yeah, no, pretty crazy. Now I'm with you on that. Well, thank god, stay safe, my friend. Hey, lots to catch up on. First of all, I want to talk about Tom Homan. Uh wow, uh Donald Trump, I mean this really uh bespeaks of Donald Trump's leadership that he saw problems there in Minnesota. He extricated, uh you know the gosh his name escapes me suddenly, and I don't know why it does, but forgive me. Uh.

30:36 He was the head of ice or Border Patrol and. Greg Bungino, No, I say Bongino, It's not Bungino, but but yes, Greg, Greg Bovino, Yes, thank you very much. Just lost my mind there for a moment. Anyway, Uh, he extricates Bovino because he's the poster child of all this angst that was happening on the streets, and Bobino's guilty of doing his job. So but that's okay, you know, let's just reassign him, get him out of the fray. Christy, no him the same thing. Bring Homan in whose law enforcement's law enforcement, dude, and comes in and just he doesn't say anything different than anybody is saying, but in the manner in which he presented, very calm, very official, with authority, and laid it out, you know, common sense.

31:27 Just hey, look at you don't want us in the streets, you want less of it. Well, the best way to do it is cooperate. Let us go pick him up in the jails and this way, nope, you know this will reduce a lot of the angst and the conflict out there. Well, we don't have to do paramilitary style operations in Texas because local law enforcement is cooperating. But when the police are openly on the side of keeping violent felons in the country, then you know, you either surrender the rule of law. You either say the federal law does not apply in the stated mini soda the way it didn't apply in South Carolina in eighteen sixty one after Fort Sumter. Or you enforce the law, but there are.

32:08 Gangs organized, gangs of communist activists. Why Rene good like that pretty guy. They are communist activists whose job it is to interfere with law enforcement, to endanger them, to attack their cars, to interfere with the rests. Imagine if Republicans, if armed Republicans had tried to interfere with the January sixth the. Rests, maybe we should have. Maybe we should have. We would have seen what happened. Can you imagine the Biden administration allowing armed Texans to prevent the arrest of January sixth suspects by federal agents after the twenty twenty election. That's the equivalent of what's happening.

32:52 They don't like the law, so they've decided they're going to flout it. They're going to get. Their activists killed so that they can all be George Floyd clones. They could all be martyrs to Republican violence and militarized policing and the fascist Gestapo. Uh well, if you keep calling federal law enforcement Nazis, don't be surprised when people kill them. We all grew up watching movies of our heroes killing Nazis and it was a good thing. So if you tell people Ice agents are Nazis, as one Catholic bishop actually from West Virginia actually compared Ice to the Gestapo and to slave catchers during before the Civil War, you are you are legitimizing organized violence against the US federal government. That's treason, that's sedition. I think Trump should have invoked the Insurrection Act. I think Tim Watts and his lieutenant governor both belong in handcuffs in a federal cell and I hope.

33:50 It, along with the mayor and Keith Ellison, put him in paddy wagons, take them away. Because they have done a lot to ignite this angst and to make room. They basically have accommodated these anarchists. And they're cooperating with them directly. They're doing signal chats with them. The lieutenant governor of Minnesota was on a signal chat with the ANTIFI activists. They are it's an open conspiracy by communist revolutionaries and we have to see it for what it is. Read their rhetoric. They're talking about after the next election, they're going to arrest Donald Trump and his supporters. They're talking about a political purge. Remember Hillary Clinton talked about the need for re education camps for Trump voters. Right exactly, That is what happens when you let the demonic ideology take over.

34:43 It's a replacement gospel for Christianity. I talk about white guilt. White guilt is a replacement. It's it pretends that it is the implication of Christianity. It pretends that it's our duty to liquidate our countries, to liquidate our sovereignty, to import infinity immigrants from hellhold is standing, give them all sex change operations on the taxpayer's dime. I mean, it sounds crazy, but all of these things really happen. Right, Well, let's whole logic leads to these Yeah. Well, the deal is again, like you said in the mind, because. We sound crazy for talking. We sound crazy for talking about the things that the left actually does. But it sounds so crazy, we seem like nutcases. But in fact we're just pointing to actual events and the actual aspirations and policies of the radical left which have taken over most of our leading institutions, universities, churches, the National Catholic Register ran a column by a priest talking about what a gentle soul that that pretty guy was. And now we have video of him attacking ice vehicles, smashing their tail lights, kicking the cars while carrying a gun.

35:55 Yeah, yeah, exactly. And you know again, and I've mentioned this a couple of times, John, do you remember that video that Chris Rock did back in the early two thousands, You know, get. How not to get shot by the police. No, how not to get your I'll say, but he used the other word, because he's Chris Rock, how not to get your. Butt kicked by the. Police, very commonly and very common sensical. I'm saying you need that on a loop there in downtown Minneapolis, just to kind of educate these people because. But in fact, they're getting trained in the exact opposite. They're getting great to provoke violent responses from ice so that they can get shot, so that they can be martyrs, so that hysterical chardinay moms on Instagram can can start yelling at their husbands that Trump is a fascist. I mean, this is all coordinated. They know how to play the voters like a piano exactly.

36:53 And now it's not defund police like it was during the George Floyd era, along with twenty seven million dollars. Though by the way that the the city. I'm sure there was government funds involved there, public taxpayer money. And how much public taxpayer money is going to pay off the good family or pay off the pretty family, you know with some sort of not class action but some sort of civil lawsuits. Well, remember all those blue cities that paid the protesters' reparations for stopping them from burning down their cities during the George Floyd Bryants. They didn't arrest those people, they actually paid them off. Yeah. Well, and Kamala Harris, how many people did she bail out? Right? That's right? And remember never forget Michelle Obama going on television during the Democratic National Convention of twenty twenty saying, you people think it can't get worse, it will get worse unless you elect Joe Biden.

37:44 Vote as if your life depends. On it, because it does. That was a death threat. She was threatening violence against Americans unless they voted her way. Yeah, well, why are we surprised? I mean that goes along with the Obamas. Remember Obama threatened the Supreme Court if they didn't if they got in a way and interfered with the Obamacare, right wow, yeah, the country you got there, be a real shame if something would have happened to it, That's all I'm saying. And be a real terrible same. We would hate to see that, wouldn't weave veto? Yeah, and then Justice Roberts wakes up and there's a horse head in his bed, just imagining, that's all. But no, it's just craziness. And the thing is is we don't need to lose their mind while they're losing theirs. But there's a clear distinction here, and that is that the worldview the left has is ungodly. It's anti God. It's always been anti good and that's what we're dealing with.

38:39 And so people of faith, people who have a worldview that belongs and is associated with the Word of God and committed to God Almighty, need to understand that we are in the middle of a war and this is a time that you need to armor up right right. Absolutely, it's a spiritual war on many many fronts. The Christians being person to Nigeria, that's one front. Men like Tommy Robinson in Britain trying to save their country from mass immigration from especially from the muzzle world. That's another front standing up to the radical left here at home, even when it exerts a cost, even when it gets you ostracized, even when it it might get you fired.

39:20 I mean, people pay a price. Look at what the January sixth protesters went through. Their lives were destroyed for showing up for a non violent protest. The same people who thought it was fine to shoot down Ashley Babbitt, who posed no threat to anyone, are now pretending that these rioters attacking federal law enforcement are somehow martyrs. Yeah, go figure anyway. More from John's America after this stay with us. Are you fifty or older? This news is for you. The CDC recommends you get vaccinated against new Macaco pneumonia. Even if you're healthy, your age puts you at risk. People fifty or older are over six times more likely to be hospitalized with new Maccockol pneumonia compared to adults eighteen to forty nine. Just one shot and he'll protect you.

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43:50 Hey, we're back with you. Bill Martinez here with doctor John Zamark. Always great to have him, YOURII. He's the author and editor of Christian Nation, which is part of Old Robinson Substack, And of course you know his books that he has written, everything from The Politically Incorrect Guide to Catholicism and of course his news book No Second Amendment. No First, absolutely brilliant. John. I got to tell you, thank you. Thank you, Bill. My latest thing over at Emerald Robinson Substack is a column I wrote about the spiritual roots of abortion, because remember the last week was the martial life, this wonderful, inspiring thing that's been going on since nineteen seventy four. I think one hundred thousand or more people every year march in the snow and the freezing ice of Washington, d C. And the media always reports it like seventeen old ladies.

44:37 You know, that's what they that's if they reported at all. Yeah, me all, that's thousands of college students brought by wonderful organizations like Students for Life of America. I just want to tell people, if you want to support a pro life organization, that really has impact. It goes out to young people, it gives them the best arguments. It helps pregnant stud udents stay in school, students for Life of America. It fights in the courtrooms, it fights at the ballot box. I really recommend people follow it and support it financially. It's the best pro life. Organization out there. And I'm not at work for them. I'm not being paid to say that, but I have friends with Kristin Hawkins, who runs it, and she's a fantastic lady. So my column over at Emerald Robinson's substack Christian Nation, I talk about how abortion is a fundamental rejection of God's creation of the whole universe, but especially of human life. If you say that it's better that you not be born, you're essentially saying the human life is fundamentally a negative thing.

45:46 It's fundamentally not worth it. And that's sort of feeds into the environmentalist telling us not to have any children, celebrating the collapsing populations all around the world. It's a philosophy of despair, and abortion is an act of despair. It's saying that this wonderful new life that your body has crafted, that God has planted a soul into that it would be better for that child if he just never been, never be born. That the human experience is so grim, you have so little hope in the future, that you can't nurture this thing that your body is struggling to protect, that your instincts tell you to protect. At every society ever since, Christianity has wanted to protect until the nineteen seventies, when we decided that random sexual pleasure as a recreational sport was more important than human life, or maybe that life was so unbearable that we just needed lots of sex to get us through it, and we're going to spare these little kids the unwholesome experience of actually having to live three score and ten on this planet.

46:57 Anyway. So it's a piece I wrote back in fifteen, and it was actually I wrote it because of the release of the Planned Parenthood videos that David de Lighton did showing that Plant Paradigm exactly was indeed selling baby parts for profit, and they later we found out during the COVID panic, the National Institute for Health, run by supposedly evangelical Christian Francis Collins, was doing hideous experiments taking babies who were aborted for that purpose, freshly, taking them out alive and taking their organs to graft them onto mice in these bizarre Frankenstein experiments that allegedly were supposed to help us cure COVID. It was all part of the monstrous abuse of the medical profession and the violation of medical privacy that was the COVID panic that the Democrats were all up and on, and unfortunately our bishops were largely complicit in that too.

47:55 Yeah, it was broad, there's no doubt about it. And you talk about Dave de Leighton, David de Lydon, the only one that went to jail planned parenthood. These people that were caught on tape directly, they were indictable, should have been jailed. Nobody went to jail, only David de Lighton, and I think his legal expenses have surpassed over a half million dollars. Yeah, they were trying to put him in prison for journalism. Right, the left had wonderful double standards. But getting back to the foundational issue, John, the issue here is it's it's either you're in line with God or you're against God. It's anti good. There's no neutrality. Yeah, there's no there's no gray area.

48:37 It don't get to be a Switzerland in this life. You're either with God or you're with the devil, exactly. And the deal last is that The other thing comes to mind as you're saying this is that, you know, we got roughly three hundred and forty million people in America right. Tell me of the of these people that are here, which parents just had everything absolutely perfect that what they got pregnant they were there. I mean, how many parents you know, had babies when maybe they were in their teenage years and they were you know, living off of you know, a dollar can of soup or whatever. A lot of people, a lot of children are born whose fathers are serving overseas in the military.

49:19 Exactly. That's not fun, no, But but you know, here it is our society because we we've determined that we need to live a life of convenience. Somehow we look that having children is inconvenient. Well, and that's what the whole IVF industry is about. It's about letting pregnancy becomes a scientific experiment. Something you plan, you freeze your eggs, or you conceive the embryos and you freeze them. There are hundreds of thousands of frozen babies at IVF labs all around America, and now surrogacy is a huge problem. There's a Chinese billionaire who had one hundred American babies by urgacy, and he's from he's in China. Wants to run the lives of those kids, wants to arrange their marriages. And they're all American citizens, they can all run for president. I mean, it's and you have American agencies doing this for Chinese billionaires with women they never met, children they may never meet. It's so it's a profoundly unnatural, anti natural and again it is the enemy. It is the devil trying to get us to rebel against creation, against the laws of creation that God wrote into our human nature and the natural law that he wrote on the human heart.

50:36 Exactly. That's what I talk about over at Emerald Robinson's subsept Christian Nation. Go look it up and subscribe exactly. Well. And the other thing, just as a sidebar, if the Democrats realize that we have all these babies in test tubes that are citizens, they're going to find a way to make them voters. That's right, They're gonna they'll put them in the voter database. I mean, that's what all this illy, That's what the support for illegal. Immigration is all about. For the Democrats, they want these people here, then they want to give them my D cards that ended through motor voter. That means they can they effectively are registered to vote, or is at least the names are in the database and the Democrats can use their election fraud software to inject those votes as needed in swing states.

51:22 As we saw happened in real time the night of twenty twenty exactly. And the thing in night, this thing that still amazes me, John, This is on the hills of nine to eleven, right, nineteen people it took to bring down almost bring down America, our economy and everything else. Right, And they all and most of them had overstayed their visa, should have been deported already. Right. And so knowing that we invade Iraq, we decided we're going to remake the whole Muslim world so that it'll be safe instead of controlling our own borders. And George W. Bush running around saying religious Islam is a religion of peace. Yeah, they want a piece of Egypt, They want a piece of say, a lot a piece of Spain that like a piece of Greece and Bulgaria, they're like a piece of.

52:05 Us all, yes, exactly. And the thing is is that here we passed the Patriot Act on the heels of this, and now you can't get on a plane unless you have the proper identification you're and the only way you can get on a plane is if you have. A driver's license. And all of a sudden, I mean how many years after that, all of a sudden, you get the motor voter law. California went absolutely nuts with it, right, and so anytime you got you know, everybody you get a driver I mean they went oprah. You know, you get a driver's like you get everybody gets a driver's license. But yeah, and if you're in California, you can get a commercial license and drive a truck even if you can't read the road signs in English. Right, Think of all those illegal immigrants driving forty thousand pound trucks on our highway.

52:50 Who literally can't read what it says. The bridge is too long. Yeah, well the bridge is too weak. Truck weighs too much. They anyway, And. Gavin Newsom wants us to believe that like why is that a problem? You know, he tries to defend it. It's amazing to me. We are we are on the knife edge in this country. We really are. So I want to encourage people, I think, to see things more in a spiritual perspective, that we are in a multi front spiritual war for the soul of this country, really with the soul of the whole world, but especially our own country, and that people who are partisans of chaos, disorder, violent confrontation with federal law enforcement agents, the same people who wanted us to burn our cities and abolish the police during the George Floyd brew. Haha, they are not They're not just misguided people. They're being guided. They're being guided by spirits. Yeah, it's too coordinated, it's it's no human can conspiracy is effective enough, is competent enough to achieve the level of destruction we've seen in this country in the last six or seven years. And of course people try to blame Donald Trump. Donald Trump's the one who introduced this era of chaos and destruction. Well, no, basically, it was a one sided civil war and only one side was fighting, and then when the other started, some

54:22 of us decided to start fighting again. Oh oh, there's an upsurge in violence. Yeah, because people are defending themselves. They're trying to defend their country from being turned into just a holding station for refugees whose every need is taken care of by the government reaching his hand in our pockets. The productive citizens of America being constantly taxed, inflation, destroying our savings, housing shortages because we have to house all these people who show up from everywhere. Under what theory was it okay for Joe Biden to refuse to enforce our immigration laws and let eight or ten million legal people into the country. Imagine if the president said, I'm not going to enforce the Civil Rights Act.

55:07 You can discriminate all you want, it's on the books, but I'm not going to enforce it. And then you try. A new president comes in and you try to enforce the law, and all of a sudden, no, it's fascism. It's fascism exactly. Yeah, you're enforcing the. Laws that we passed, that our Congress passed democratically in the president's signed. You're enforcing the law. That's that's that's like the gestapo. Of course, by comparing immigration agents to Nazis, as the one Catholic Bishop of West Virginia did you're licensing violence against them. I mean, we all were watching movies about how. Good it was to kill Nazis at Normandy in places like that. Well, if you say that these American citizens, these blue collar guys who are taking on the dangerous job of trying to arrest human traffickers and rapists and terrorists and other illegal people present here against.

55:57 Start killing Americans, Yeah, exactly. And you're going to compare them to Nazis. I mean, this is the language that leads to civil war. This is the kind of language the Nazis used against the Jews. It's the kind of language the Hutus used against the Tutsis before the genocide in Rwanda. It's the way the government of Zimbabwe talked about the whites. When you start demonizing. Ordinary citizens who are just following and enforcing the law, you are tearing up the social fabric and you're creating a dangerous situation. And of course the left wants danger, They want violence. They want exactly. They want people to get shot by ice agents on the streets of Minneapolis so that they can wave their bloody shirts around and claim that Trump is Hitler and it's an astoundingly cynical tactic. The question is whether it will succeed. Are we going to fall for it?

56:53 Exactly? Well, ladies and gentlemen, you've been warned and own your own knowledge, as we say, Doctor John's America. He is the author and editor of Christian Nation, which is part of the Emerald Robinson substack. Also the author of the book No Second, No First, and the Politically Incorrect Guide to Catholicism, and many other books. John, How can they follow you now? Just just google my name right, follow me over at Christian Nation and check out my book No Second Amendment, No First. I think you'll really enjoy it. You got it. Thank you, my friend. Take care, God bless you. Thank you. This vacation offer is so good I'm going to repeat it.

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58:58 Good to have you with us. Hill, how are you? Thank you proud me for sure. I'm doing terrific great to have you here because you know, what's you know, because of Doge and and of course even before Doge, I would say, the majority of America says, look at there's got to be all kinds of fraud and corruption. In them there hills and uh. And you are drilling down as it relates to medicaid and medicaid fraud that's been operating in New York State, which I think that what you're onto is you're you're focusing on a so to speak, an avalanche of corruption that probably, uh, you could extend into other areas in other states. I just just just based on what you've been sharing with me, is that fair?

59:46 You're absolutely one hundred percent cracks. You know, I'm hoping to shed light on the real corruption, uh that's going on, you know, not only in New York but across the country, state by state. Right exactly. Well, tell us your story, go ahead, sangl. You know, my story starts out as any typical provided story. Does you know, I got into home care, want the you know, really helped the community give back, joined the Great Organization and it's been around for thirty two years, uh, you know, and continue putting into good work in the community. I grew within that organization, you know, grew with the community, joined boards that you know specialized and groups that specialized in home and community based care. Uh, and sort of you know, started dipping my toes into the advocacy water and everything like that, and going up to Albning and knowing the legislature and everything everything that you should be do to better the industry in which you work in. Right.

1:00:41 And one of the programs in which we work in was called Consumer Direct did Care. It's it's care where you know, certain individuals, if they meet the criteria, are able to hire their own worker. Right. That's not meaning that, you know, there's no oversight like that. That's where my agency would come in to provide the oversight to ensure proper billing, timekeeping, et cetera. But the person would be able to hire you know, a friend, a family, a neighbor, somebody to come in to help them with their tasks of daily living. Right. Right. So it was a very well thought out program, you know, it was very well suited as a supplemental program to other benefits and programs in which I provided because I wanted to compass all home and community based services just so that I could offer full continuity of care. And that's what led us into, you know, this issue that I'm facing right now. For years, and for five straight years for me at least, we've been going up to Albany. When I say we, my advocacy boards and different associations have been going to Albany and really advocating for you know, putting guardrails on this program and to ensure that it doesn't grow out of control and that there's proper oversight and licensure. And you know, we really wanted to ensure the program save to the roots in which it was.

1:02:09 Founded, right, so it could be sustainable. I mean, you've got to get program protected so that it keeps on going, right, because like anything that the government is associated with, it's always subject to a corruption and fraud. Hundred percent, right. And what's the best way to learn about that fraud is you work with the good standing providers in the community providing those services, because they can point out those areas of fraud that may need more oversight. Because it's very simple. Right when you speak to a legislature and they want to put it on pen to paper. But there's so many what ifs in the world that is, sometimes you don't catch those on pen to paper. What do you write legislation? Right, you need to really work with the community providers in order to stay in front of everything that could potentially be coming down. The New York State legislature in Governor's office completely ignored us for five years, completely ignored us. From now looking back, I see why they ignored us. They had ulterior motives. They let this program balloon out of control to twelve billion dollars per year spends and that's state and federal medicaid dollars.

1:03:19 It's a federal match. Right. And then once they you know, grew this program into what I could only see them is reviewing looking at it as an asset. Right, it's no more lives or anything like that. You know, they only talk about it in a in a numerical way anyway, right. They sold it off to the highest bin or through a back door, you know, no bid contract, in essence, creating a state sanctioned monopoly on a twelve billion dollars a year program. Yeah, ignored ruled about transition data hipA you know, I can go on and on. They didn't listen to the consumers that were in the program about what they wanted. They totally eliminated consumer choice, which is, you know, a federal mandate and everyone should have a choice from where they get their health care from. And New York State said, no, you have to get it from these people, and that's it. That's your only option.

1:04:15 And they did all this through a stroke of a pen. They did this through budget amendments. All right. They came out and said we're going to have a state fiscal intermediary. And then fast forward to New York State Senate testimony in which I provided that was put together to review the cd PAP transition. The senators who put that hearing together provided budget testimony which actually listed public Partnerships LLC in the budget in the budget draft budget testimony before they had to switch it to a request for proposal because you can't lift an individual in a budget. You have to follow state procedure right there.

1:05:01 Yeah yeah, by the way, Yeah. They're getting so blatant that they were just going to write them into budget. How arrogant. I mean, it's unbelievable. So let me let me ask you this, Uh Okay, so here they do this. You know, your twelve billion dollars, you've built up this organism. Now it's controlled by the governor and h and they go through kind of a show and you know, act like they're you know, after they get caught, they kind of okay, back off a little bit. But then my question is who benefited from this besides uh, this private partnership. So it's clear that people within government have benefited from this. It has to be. It's a twelve billion dollar a year program that was single handedly written specifically for this provider that want. There's so you have to look at lobbying.

1:05:51 You have to look at you know, uh, you know, any political connections and interests, any and and it's not something that even could be right now you could look you might have to look five years down the road that they oh wow, she was working at Department of Health and now she's a board member over here getting a salary for what. Yeah, right exactly who knows what? What donations the packs super packs. Yeah, it's it's unfortunate that we need to get a forensic accountant to come in and look at all this stuff. But it's gonna be after the fact. Right, Well, but you know, you know the big under our nose. Yeah, you know, the big is flying around here, Okay, and exactly how it progresses from the system, and that's you know, even some of that, A lot of it, I got to think.

1:06:36 And you're you're better. You've been there on the ground, have seen it. Uh, And I see the lobbyists is kind of a front organization for it, right. The lobbyist is definitely the front organization, But then there's also the not so silent, uh front organization, which are the unions. So eleven ninety nine s c i U, right, so eleven at ninety nine s CiU has been wanting to unionize this workforce for some time now. How do you unionize a workforce of family caregivers and caregivers that are joint employers with a fiscal intermediary, right, It's very hard. It's not like you're going to the Amazon warehouse and you're saying, okay, I got everyone right here. These are one on one spread across the state, right, So it's very hard to get any kind of messaging across. How do you unionize those people? Then, especially when there's multiple providers, Well, there's only one provider. Now it's going to be very simple to unionize those works exactly.

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1:12:18 He's been working in home healthcare in New York State for over ten years with Caring Professionals. He's the chief operating officer and they provide home health care for elderly and disabled individuals. So go a hunt. I mean, you got me on the edge of my chair here. I mean, this is like nothing new. I mean, look at a majority of Americans realize that taxpayers getting built. I mean there's grifting NonStop, there's corruption, fraud, Doze. You know, started to expose it. And you know that what they were exposing was problematic when when they all got together and all but tard and feathered Elon Musk to get him out of there. Right, absolutely, everybody has you know, connection into something. You know in New York especially, you know what percentage is fraud?

1:13:07 Right? And we have a very very very big budget, you know, and the hundreds of billions, So how much of that is fraud? Is it ten percent? So you're saying twenty billions fraud? And what what what? What? What number? Right? And so yeah, it's above it's you know, not nothing. We can all agree on that, and probably it's probably more than five and it's probably more than ten. Yeah. Yeah, So that's just. Campable, right exactly. And because they're doing everything they can to avoid accountability. I mean, open the books. You know, for years has been working with the states and they've got i think just about all the states now they're a register, their check register online so you can look. But you know, again they're so crafty and they know how to hide this stuff, right, I mean, they're not going to come up and be upfront about it.

1:13:54 They know they got a scam going. And until we get the light of day on these on these fraudulent practices, you know they're going to continue to you know, continue on with their programs with impunity. Right absolutely. And you know that any time that anyone brings up fraud, right, we'll see states and New York is doing it right now, right, they'll highlight you know, the fraud, waste abuse of that has been found and prosecuted. Right so right now they're saying, oh, we found three hundred and thirty million dollars of fraud over a ten year period. Look at us we're so good. Right, Well, meanwhile, it's a twelve billion dollars a year program. So even if you just look at the three hundred million and one year not a ten year time frame, I mean you're talking about a slipp of a percessions.

1:14:44 I mean, come on, now, percent if you're lucky to get that, which is the same scam that Governor Watson Minnesota played. Right, Well, no, hey. Look at we've been looking into this and we've already you know, convicted X amount of people and all this, like they're really on top of the job. But meanwhile, you know, we're talking so far nine billion in counting of fraud just in one in one sector of services offered there in Minnesota. Right, absolutely, I mean it's the same exact thing going on. Right, You're dangling the attractive you know, clickbait here, and with your other hand you're reaching around and grabbing all the money you can from their wallet. That's that's the only thing going on here. And it's you know, it's not it's not right, and they're they're able to hide it through legislation and through contracts, and you know that needs to be highlighted. It's not the end provider, right, Obviously, they need to be caught, they need to be prosecuted.

1:15:42 We don't want to have people stealing funds, especially the providers of it. But I'm telling you the larger portion of the fraud is coming in these contracts and these you know, back door deal and you know, public interests, you know, whatever it may be. This is deep in pervasive. I mean, are we talking because in other studies this seems to be a contagion that's found mostly in blue states. Are you finding that to be the case, Julian in your investigation and understanding of what's going on. I know often we hear, well, it happens, you know, on both sides and all that. But this, you know, when you start looking at these cities. I mean we're talking New York, We're talking Minnesota, Los A, I mean California, they're finding billions upon I mean, the state's bankrupt for ans and purposes, and there's so much fraud and so much leakage of public funds out of the state of California. And those are three blue, blue states just right off the top top of the bat And I'm you know, again, what I'm hearing over and over again, it seems to be in these democratic, especially uniparty controlled states because they can get away with this stuff because there's no accountability. There's nobody telling them, Hey, you can't do that.

1:17:02 You know you can't. You can't just assign something. There needs to be an RFP out there, requests for a proposal. You know, this is the way you do things. But hey, when when you're you're you know, you're self ruled and you got a UNI party, Hey, you get to make the rules and do as you darn well please. Right. Absolutely, Unfortunately, I think the the what you know, New York and California show right, because I mean they had to. In my mind that it's happening nationwide. Doesn't matter, blew, a red state doesn't matter the New York to California. Our social services packages and benefits are just so big. The money is just so uh, you know, abundant, and you know, how do you but even take a red state, right, they're still democratic legislatus or Republican legislature, right, and they can still hide things through bills because there I don't know if anyone's ever read a budget, you go blinds after an hour, and that you sort of just keep skimming over things and so that that's where stuff gets hidden.

1:18:01 Right, Well, that was like trying to that was trying to remember Obamacare. When Obamacare came out, I don't know. I can't even name a dozen people that got past the fifth page because. You would go blind and it didn't make sense. And then of course the guy who wrote up the bill, he was in his hearing and his congressional hearing said they purposely made it complex and confusing. I mean there's a government official telling the American people that they got fleeced and it was done on purpose, by design. And still Obamacare is still around, So you know, all this stuff is really just it's aggravating the everyday taxpayer, Julian.

1:18:43 It aggravates everybody and aggravates me, just as I wish I wasn't so involved now and really seeing how the sausage is being made sort of thing, I would like to go back and be oblivious, you know, regular citizen. Right. But the deal is is that you want everybody to have a fair chance to win, and how can you when when the game is rigged? I mean, these politicians basically they've rigged the game. And so if you have somebody else who can come in and provide a better service for less. Guess what, you know, they're not they're not involved in the payoffs and the back door money shuffling and that sort of thing. So you know, they might get a meeting, but that's about as you know, that's about the best they'll get.

1:19:28 Yeah, absolutely, I mean listen, but just as you said, you know, the States really are the conductor of the train and can bring it anywhere they want to go. Right. Uh. We the RFP we had in New York, it was it was reviewed by the Medicaid director and he met with three or four requests that we got maybe a month ago. Now, he actually met with the governor's executive staff and the company that won the bid prior to the budget being inactive. Right, the other two offerers that were a qualified offerer, I spoke with both of those providers. They were not allowed awarded the same benefit to meet with the Medicaid director who graded the RFPs. Mind you, yes, prior to the RFP coming out, right, And so yeah, the nothing in New York, uh passes the sniff test.

1:20:25 Everything stinks to high heaven. The more and more you look into it, the more and more you find, and the more and more you find this is happening across the nation in every state. Uh, through these social services programs. Yeah, it's systemic, no doubt. Has Hochel addressed this issue at all. She has? She has. She said, you know, she did the best thing. She prevented the program from a fithical crisis. Uh, you know, in order to she said, she saved one point two billion dollars, which no one seems to understand here because right now we have the health plans, uh, you know, the United the Anthems, the Molina all who are the you know middleman in New York State for these programs to you know, handle the payments. They're potentially flying a lawsuit against the company that was awarded the contract, Public Partnerships LLC for anti trust's concerns because now they are the state sanctioned monopoly and they're demanding increased payment and the programs actually that have cost more money. And so now the insurers, right, because they get a capitated amount from the state, they're saying, hey, you can't demand an increase, you know, that's not right, right, and so they're filing suit.

1:21:36 I mean, think about it. State sanctioned monopoly and Governor Hochel is okay with it, and she's with slight of hand offering. You know, Oh, I say, I've saved this over a billion dollars, but you can't even quantify or qualify that savings, right right, right, Well, we got to wrap things up here, Julian Hagman, what's the next step? The next step? So I you know, there's a lot of potential, a lot of things on on the horizon. Department of Justice has been actively investigating this for over a year now, and I've been in contact with them. I know other providers that have been in contact with them. We're hopeful that they're going to be coming out with something soon, right it. Department of Justice typically takes eighteen months, but they've been pretty proactive on this item and so hopefully it'll come out sooner than later. I actually have a lawsuit against the company that won the bid PPL.

1:22:31 I'm going into court on April twenty firth where the judge is going to be deciding discovery from my case so I can hopefully get the you know, the information I need to bring to light to show the public that there was fraud in New York State on this twelve billion dollar a year contract. And then we also have a slew of foil requests that have been sitting there waiting that the DOH have been and state have been delaying and delaying and delaying. But you can only delay those so much. And you know that we have watchdogs in New York State which are threatening lawsuit on the boys and everything like that. So we're pushing down that angle and really waiting for them to see what happens there. And so those three items, yeah, that's it's a waiting game, but it's it's not going to be for much longer. We've been on this for a while and no one's given up, and we're going to get the answers to the people.

1:23:20 Well, this seems like a pandemic in and of itself, and we're we're just touching the tip of the iceberg, I would think. Julian Hagman, he is the COO Chief Operating Officer for Carrying Professionals Home Healthcare, offering home health care for elderly and disabled individuals, stay in touch, Julian. I want to follow up on this and keep our audience surprised at what's going on because, like I said, I think this is just a tip of the iceberg, and this is going to find I think we'll find this is representative of a model that's being utilized by these characters because, like you said, the government's putting out a lot of money there, and hey, it's right for the pickens. And you know, because you got these politicians, their wallets are open up and as long as they're getting their big they're going to run interference for these programs.

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1:26:43 Hey, good morning, welcome back. Good to have you with us. Bill Martinez here and we've got Amber Canneban. She's the manager of campaigns for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. Amber, Good morning, Happy New Year to you. Hi, good morning, thank you for having me. Great to have you here. We're going to talk vegan cheese. Mark. I mean, look at you're the first one this year. I want you to know this. You're breaking ground here because we haven't been talking vegan cheese, so welcome to talk about this. This is amazing. I was just you know, amazed by the numbers. Three and a half billion dollars already is what the vegan cheese market is all about. Expected to reach almost ten billion by twenty thirty three. Never before have there been so many creamy, melty, mouthwatering vegan cheeses available, as you say, as more shoppers than ever ditch dairy cheese because they're either lactose intolerant or they're concerned about animal agriculture's impact on the environment.

1:27:41 Right. Absolutely, Yeah, we are just seeing so much innovation and creativity to you know, move away from the cow's milk or in some cases, goat's milk based cheeses over to those vegan versions and they're just as creamy and taste and versatile. You're just doing that simple swap, and it can have a huge impact on your you know, water footprint, your carbon footprint, your health. Since vegan foods are cholesterol free, they have a lot of fiber in them, which cow's milk has none of, and you're you know, you're doing something good for the animals who don't want to be on farms, dairy farms, getting their babies taken away just so we can drink the milk instead, right, And I think.

1:28:31 That sometimes people don't realize the effect that has on the on the mother cows when they're as you say, their babies are taken away, and they you know, seem well, they're just animals, you know, they really, but if you really have any kind of connection and you see what's going on, the mothers are reacting when they're you know, when the baby cows are taken away. Right. Yeah, we have heartbreaking video on our website. We've done investigations into the dairy industry and this is a little own common industry practice. So cows don't just give milk because they're cows. They give milk because they're mothers. So the dairy industry forcefully impregnates them year after year. That baby is then taken away, and we've heard mother cows crying for days after their babies have been dragged away from them, and then that milk is taken from them and sold, you know, for market instead of going to their babies. So every glass of milk. Every grilled cheese sandwich with a dairy based cheese on it, you know that is a product of a from a grieving mother who had her baby taken away. And it's all just so unnecessary.

1:29:48 Yeah, you know, Amber, with the focus on food and ingredients these days, you know, the current administration has been bringing to light and people are looking at, you know, ingredients of foods a lot more closely because the consistent thing that I've been I've been hearing this for years because I've been in and around the health industry as well, and the question was always, you know, why cancer, Why all these diseases? What's exacerbating all this stuff? And as we're seeing and as you're reporting here, you know, some cheeses contain the very same bacteria found between human toes.

1:30:29 I mean, think about how disgusting. But maybe that's why sometimes that cheese smells that way too. Yeah, you get that distinct stinky feet smell with some cheeses, and that's a bacteria called Breavin bacteria. It gives it that stinky foot smell. But yeah, I mean, the cow's milk is loaded with cholesterol. Cow's milk can have added hormones but even if you're buying the like labeled hormone freeze, of that cow's body is still coursing with hormones from being kept constantly pregnant and nursing, so you're getting you know, animal hormones in that cow's milk. Cow'smoke is also completely devoid of fiber. Ninety to ninety seven percent of Americans are deficient in fiber. So that can lead to very serious health problems. You know, the important we're learning about the importance of your gut health. Colon cancer is also on the rise, and it's a very serious problem. So doing some simple dietary swaps, choosing that those vegan options that are going to have the fiber in them can only do you some good there.

1:31:48 Yeah, this continues to grow for obvious reasons. Right, it's working. Well part of it. You know, Vegan cheese is delicious, it's creamy, it's stretchy, you know all the reasons. You know, there's no reason to just when you're in the grocery store, you just look left or right on the shelves and you're probably gonna start recognizing some of those vegan brands that were there that maybe you didn't notice before. So you've got a whole guide to that at peda dot org slash Cheeses, so you can check that out, hear about learn about some of the brands. Maybe you weren't familiar with before. Maybe you didn't even realize they were vegan right on the shelf because you just look at a package of cheese slices cheddar it's SOI or oat milk based and instead of cow's milk based.

1:32:37 Right exactly. We're talking with the manager of campaigns for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, Pita Amber canevan is with us Amber the other thing, the other I guess chemical that's involved, which is interesting. You know, it's kind of like potato chips. You know, you just can't have one. It just kind of triggers a chemical reaction in your brain that says, hey, there's more. You know, there's more in the bag. And I didn't realize this. But cheese contains a similar chemical right right. Yeah. You hear people say, you know, I'm addicted to cheese. I just can't give it up, and they're so confused by it. But there's actually a chemical in dairy cheese called caso morphins. And it's a chemical that does act on your brain and it makes you crave more cheese.

1:33:23 So it might not be just because while a nice snack, you're actually getting a little bit of a cheese high there. And people are addicted cheese. They're a little bit right there when they say that. And you say that going vegan or eating vegan not only is easy, it's more and more available, and this is why the growth of the industry continues on the trajectory that it is. And you say, each person that goes vegan is estimated to spare the lives of nearly two hundred animals every year. That's each person. That's an incredible calculus. Here, right, Yeah, just those simple daily swaps can just have a huge impact on animals. You know, in the United States we raise and slaughter about ten billion animals every year. I mean, that's just an unfathomable number of individuals.

1:34:19 And you know that's the other side of this is animals, you know, including cows, are thinking and feeling individuals. They feel pain, they feel joy when they're with their families, they feel lost when they have their babies taken away. And you know, we just want people to know who animals are and we can respect them with some of those simple daily choices can really have a big impact for them. You know, people might be surprised because if they haven't been aware of Began Cheese. I mean, there's there's a host of offerings here, right, I mean there's. Quite the variety. Break that down for our audience.

1:35:01 Yeah, so you can get you know, some pepper Jack slices for your sandwiches. There's melty vecan cheddar for your nachos, grated parmesan for your pasta. Some of our favorite brands are Daya, Vile Life, Tree Line, Kite Hill, There's Tofui cream cheese for your bagels in the morning, or if like me, you like making cheesecakes. And again, all those brands and recommendations recipes are at peta dot org slash Cheeses. We just have this whole one stop shop guide for if your boughten to explore that.

1:35:42 Amber is this. You know, you suggest that it's an easy swap, but you know, obviously, being consumers in America being what it is, you know, it's like, you know, try it, you'll like it, but you know, and I imagine after you do this and you start making those swaps, then you'll discover this and realize that it's an easy swap. Right, Yeah, all of these brands are pretty much like a one to one swap in. So you get that package of vegan American cheese slices and you're going to be using it just as you would the dairy based cheese. We're also seeing some exciting things happening with like chain pizza restaurants, local pizza restaurants having vegan mozzarella that you can just order right at the group at the restaurant as well.

1:36:34 Right exactly. Amber Canevan, she's a manager of campaigns for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, where she plays a key role in helping end the use of animals for food. To wrap things up, Amber, where can they go for more information? Peda dot org slash cheeses. That's peta dot org slash cheeses. You've heard. T Mobile is the best network in America. Now the customer is a fish. Confirm it. The JD Power twenty twenty six US Wireless Network Quality study ranks T Mobile highest for customer satisfaction in five out of six regions, the first time in company history. In today's fast paced world, enhance and high performing mobile connectivity matters more than ever, whether you're at home, at work, or on the move. When it comes to faster speeds, lower latency, and stronger voice performance, customers continue to choose tam Mobile.

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1:41:10 How are you? Good morning, Thank you for having me. How are you Hey, great to have you here. I'm doing wonderful. Now we understand that the Free Speech America team has a new tool, MRC Digital News Tracker, right. That is right. So we at the MRC have been tracking what the Big four news app that's Google News, Apple News, MSN, and Yahoo News. We have been tracking the leftist outlets and leftist headlines that they have been promoted and you know, sort of brainwashing Americans. We now have evidence of the things that they have been doing, you know, behind the scenes. Yeah, when you talk about the Big four news apps reach about five hundred and fifty million Americans, I mean it's probably more than once, because we only have about three hundred and fifty million. America is our universe anyway, so this probably in essence, it's it's bombarding the minds of American citizens, no doubt.

1:42:08 Right, that is right. I mean they have an massive reach. I mean in the latest legacy media, it has been decreasing, but you know, social media has been going up. You know, smartphones, these news apps comprensault in every single iPhone, Apple news compre insall every single iPhone excuse me, Google news comspreing sold, and every single Google phone. So as trusten legacy media comes down, you know, people more more people rely on this tech news for their news. Right, So we've kind of gone from maybe the fires of the pan in a sense, because about ninety six percent roughly of the news coming from the mainstream media, the regular networks, the predominant networks, was ninety six negative when it came, you know, toward conservatives or Donald Trump.

1:43:02 So somewhere in that range, you could say, ninety ninety six percent. That's been fairly consistent. Now online via the Internet, these social media outlets, you know, they're still up there. I mean, you know, eighty six percent negative coverage. This is and this is about ice right now that we're talking about. Yeah, So the Media Research Center has released survey study after study showing how the leftist Bruckcad networks have issued negative coverage against President Trump, Conservatives, or the Republican Party consistently since President Trump was elected in twenty sixteen. Now here's what we have. We know that ninety percent of coverage about ice in Minnesota on the leftist networks was negative.

1:43:54 So we decided to take a look at what the big ford used ups were, how they were covering the ice operations in Minnesota. And guess what the number is. Eighty six percent of the headlines that we came across about Minnesota where negative or lacking key context that will have inform Americans about number one, why ice is in Minnesota. To begin with, you know, we also discover that, you know, none of the headlines that we came across that we analyze mention any of the crimes can made it by legal aliens in this state. I mean dhas have speedily said that, you know, ferminal aactivity is at the center of why they are in the state. To begin with, guess what none of the headlines made and mentioned of that. Now, this is this is important because you know, a poll recently came out from Fox News, fifty nine percent of American voters think that ICE is too aggressive in their operations. Well, guess what, I'm not surprised that more majority of Americans believe that because they are being misinformed by this Big four news that there's not you know, the headlines are not mentioning the riots. They're not mentioning the violent aspect of the protests happening in that state. You know, there was a death of thirty seven year old anti ICE activists Renee Good in Minnesota. It was a tragic death.

1:45:16 President Trump has said that repeatedly. You know, it's the White House laments when people die. But there is a context that happened here, and zero percent of the headlines none of the headlines about Renette Good's death mentioned the fact that she hit eight ICE agents Jonathan Ross before he fatally shot her. Now, this is I mean, people, you need to deserve to know the truth here. I mean exactly, it was a tragic death. But give provide people the context, you know, paint the picture of what happened before she was shot. Yeah. You see. What this does is kind of like what Tom Hollman was suggesting in his press conference this week, and that is that in dangers the rest of the citizens because they're not getting the full story and they think, oh, this is okay, And even like the most recent shooting there with a nurse, and I mean, now we're seeing other video where he was there kicking out the back light of one of the vehicles, spitting on ice officers.

1:46:20 And then you know, to add to the confusion and make it even worse is the guy comes with a gun. I get it, you have a concealed carry permit. That's okay, But there's also the law that pertains to that is that once you come into a law enforcement operation, your concealed carry permit is null and void. Did you know that. I didn't know that, but I mean I'm not surprised. It makes sense, right, I mean, yeah, because it's you're not to go in and take your gun and be proactive, even though he wasn't waving the gun. But it's all suspicious because he has a gun and fifty rounds of ammunition.

1:47:05 I mean, there's a lot of information that is missing here, and you know, we we should we should probably wait for information from the government investigations about what actually transpiring here where you were one hundred percent right. I mean, yes, you're able to carry your gun to protest, but at the same time, you're putting yourself in home's way by you know, DHS said that they were actually enforcing a target operation before mister Preddy came across ICE and sort of recording and started to you know, what appears to be interfere with ICE agents while they were trying to make an arrest. Now we know for a fact that these anti ICE groups have been training people, teaching them how to I think there's tactics called I think the arrest.

1:47:48 They're trying to create chaos around arrest and the tensions to allow people to skate law enforcement. And I think, you know, this may be one of those cases. And it was a very it was a tragic death and very unfortunate, but at the same time, it's it's one of those things like, you know, what are you doing. You're carrying a gun. I know you're allowed to carry that gun, but if you're interacting violently against you know, not just federal agents, just even local law enforcement. You're putting yourself at risk by just you know, behaving mindently towards them. Well, and that's your thing. You know, you mentioned local law enforcement, and this is what Tom Homan's trying to, you know, re engage with, is local law enforcement, because local it's really essential that local law enforcement be there. And this is all part of the context, like you're saying, luis because law enforcement, if they're there, they know the local people, and you know, outside law enforcement doesn't have a relationship with these people.

1:48:49 And all they're doing is there. Hey, I'm on a mission and my mission is being being attacked and I'm being threatened. I mean, look at the figures here, I mean the account of the number of attacks, I mean the percentage that they've increased. And the mainstream media and social media as well is contributing to this, I believe, but they're not taking any responsibility for it. You're right. So here's what we found in our in my study. You know, the one positive headline about ice operations in the state came from Fox News, and it was about reporting about local police officers being missing in action while agitators and rioters took over the streets. That was the only positive headline that we analyzed across the Big four News app and you know, over the one and eighteen stories, the one positive headline. Now, let me give you a review of some of the stories that we came across on Big four. You know, there was a there was a recurring theme here. You know, ice bad. You know, protesters peaceful. You know they were going to hold visuals and you know peaceful model.

1:50:01 It's it's the George Floyd narrative all over again, Louis, it's a repeat of it. Yeah, go ahead, you're one right. So here's some of the headlines. Here's what we saw on Apple News. Quote doctors in Minnesota, the cry fear and chaos, I mean Trump Administration's immigration crackdown. That was by the Associated Press. Another headline by Apple News, This is unsustainable. The ice search in Minneapolis feels chaos. Here's what happens on Google News. It feels like an invasion Minnesota and stun as federal officers floored the state by NBC News. Another headline by The Daily Beast. Ice now so hated that even their own agents are terrified. On MSN my CNN sloppy journalists who went through ICE hiring process details experience to CNN, Yahoo News by Salon. The radical left is organized news organization. How Christian know turn Ice into the proud Boys? I mean, can you believe this?

1:51:04 Can any of the headlines? Mean it looks like say, these headlines will have to be taken from press statements from the Democratic National Committee. Now, yes, these are the outlets are being promoted by the Speak for News AUP. This is this is egregious. Well, it puts everybody in danger. This is the thing because what happens, I mean, it doesn't just happen to the ICE agents. It sets a psychology within the city, within the culture itself, that it's okay to be lawless. And you know to what end? I mean, you know they talk about an invasion. Oh did you forget the invasion of twenty million illegal immigrants who came into the country, many of them unvetted with track records of murder and rape and human trafficking and drug running. I mean, what happened here and then here, all in the name of a sanctuary city or state. You're harboring criminals. Well, last time I checked, I think that's against the constitution. So this whole sanctuary state premise and predicate to me is unfounded and illegal on its face.

1:52:13 And guess what Bill is. If you are one of those Americans who rely on this Big four for their news, you will have no idea whatsoever why ICE is in Minnesota to begin with, Like I mentioned earlier, zero percent of the headlines, zero percent mention why federal agents were in the state to begin with zero. Yeah, well that's quite telling, right there. Luis Cornelio, he's been our guest assistant editor for MRC Free Speech America. Louis, thank you so much. Thank you Bill. Do you have Medicare and do you use a seapap machine? This is a National healthcare alert regarding your SEAPAP supplies. Using a clean seapap mask and clean supplies is important.

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