Jan. 26, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 01 26 26

The Bill Martinez Show 01 26 26
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The Bill Martinez Show 01 26 26
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Are you ready.

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Okay, let's do it.

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Bill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future. And now Bill

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Martinez six.

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Minutes after the top of the hour. Right now, Bill

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Martinez here and back with us is Peter Lamage, an attorney,

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a Republican strategist, first generation immigrant from socialist Albania who

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has devoted his career to defending freedom and constitutional principles.

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He's a Conservative candidate for conserv for the Connecticut Secretary

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of State in twenty twenty six, and he brings first

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hand experience of the American dream and a passion for

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protecting it. Peter, thank you so much, appreciate the time.

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Welcome, thank you for having me, sir, good to see

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you well.

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Before we get into the topic at hand, I'd like

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to get your insight on Davos and what President Trump

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was able to do in bringing the countries together that

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were maybe a bit hesitant, but he cast a vision

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and gave them something to achieve here right.

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Look, it's amazing that people still do not understand the

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President of the United States. When he starts negotiating, his

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skills are unmatched. He starts from the top when he

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said I'm going to take Greenland no matter what. Pretty much,

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he made a promise and he keeps the promise. But

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then he started negotiating, and I think that what he

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got out of it is not public yet, but it

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sort of surprised everyone that he walked out of this

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meeting and then, you know, made it public that we

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are negotiating.

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There is no need to use military force. He's not

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going to do that.

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There is no need for the tariffs or the sanctions

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or anything else we're negotiating, and he walked out of

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this meeting Victoria victorious for the United States. Greenland is

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important the United States. It's got it. The geopolitics required

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it to, if nothing else, to have permanent bases there.

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And I think what he's arguing, and he's not publicand

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but I think what he's arguing is that when you

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have a military base in a certain country that is temporary,

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you can besh to leave. It doesn't mean ect But

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when you have that as an American land, you don't

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have to leave. So he's trying to get this sort

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of a permanent basis that we need to have there

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to defend and protect the United States. And I think

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that was an excellent strategy that he pursued with the

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other European leaders.

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Well, what he's done in all this negotiations at the

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end of it all, as you know, Peter, is that

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you may come away I mean certainly better off than

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you were before. You may have misunderstood. But as the

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President has said before, and he repeated this several times

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to the Ukrainian president, is that you don't have the cards.

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America has the cards. He's got a full deck to

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play with that can be leveraged and make a deal

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really beneficial for all parties. I mean, something that heretofore.

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I don't know of another president, maybe Reagan, who had

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the conceptuality of being able to offer something and go

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in to the assets of America to say, hey, what

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about this? What about this? To make it a win

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win proposition? Right.

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Just imagine if the media, the major media is in

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the United States were supportive of the president. Imagine if

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the Democrats supported the president's agenda. Imagine if Congress supported

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the president and some Republicans as well. I mean, this

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president has the negotiating skills that no other president had

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before Reagan comes to mind. I agree with you, but

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I think he surpasses Reagan when it comes to negotiating

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for the United States. Look at the tariffs, Look at

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the closing down, shutting down the border, look at illegal immigration.

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Look what he's doing with the tariffs and bringing billions,

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if not trillions of dollars into United States and creating

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jobs for everyone in lower prices, and I mean his skills.

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When it comes to negotiating for the American people, then

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the president is so simple to understand. He's putting America first.

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He's doing everything and anything he can to improve the

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American people's lives. And it's sad that sometimes we have

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elected officials actually who are working against him at the

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you know, detriment you know, of the American people.

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And this is sad.

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When I see this, it really breaks my heart because

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he doesn't need this job. I always argue with people

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that Trump doesn't need this job. He doesn't like the

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president of the United States. He can go and just

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enjoy his life with his nieces and nephews and you know,

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enjoy life. He's got the money, he's got the status,

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he's got the name recognition. He doesn't do this to

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benefit from it, even though the media portrays him differently

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as if he's making billions of dollars. But the truth

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is that ordinary folks understand that he's doing this for

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the American people, and we should thank God every single

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day that we were able to elect him for the

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second term to really deliver on behalf of us well.

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And the thing is, Peter, he will have a generational impact.

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It's not just the here and now. I mean we're

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talking generations down the road. And what he's putting into

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motion and the model for a presidency that he's exampled.

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I mean, I don't care if you're Democrat, Republican, independent, whatever,

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if you have aspirations to become president of the United States,

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you're going to be looking at the model that Donald

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Trumps put out there.

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Right.

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He's saying to change the geopolitics of the United States

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for the next fifty years at least in the favor

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of the United States, if we know how to pursue

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it based on the steps or the roadmap that he's

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given us. Whether you're talking about you know, Latin countries

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with Maduro, whether we're talking on greenland relations that we

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have with the European Union Donato. I mean, he's establishing

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a roadmap for the future presidents to pursue it properly

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to make sure that America remains that superpower that we

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have been a good superpower in the world that we

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have provided for We defeated fascism, communism, Nazism, you know,

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but for the United States. And I was so proud

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when he told the European Union leaders that but for

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the United States, you would be speaking German and some Japanese.

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I mean, that was gavid, but he made perfect sense

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because we have invested so much in the world that

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I think the world should appreciate the fact that we

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have a president like Trump right now that is standing

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up to the threads that may come to the European

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Union and NATO. But for the United States, NATO is

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United States. No one can deny the fact that almost

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seventy five percent of the expenses of NATO are covered

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by the United States. United Nations is United States exactly,

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and we shouldn't be We shouldn't shy way or run

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away from the fact that we are here to provide

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and protect and defend the Western civilization. And Trump is

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making that clear. I'm going to stand up, but America

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is going to be first he's going to lead by

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an example, We're not going to follow others.

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He was elected.

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He makes that clear that the American people voted for him,

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they didn't vote for the United Nations. The American people

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voted for him, they didn't vote for NATO. So he's

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the liver in the promises that he made to the

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American people. And I think that every American should have

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been proud and should be proud of him that he's

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put in America first, and he's not making its distinction

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based on political affiliations. He's not pointed out that the

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Democrats or the Republicans or the Independents. He's put in

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American people first, and that is extremely important for us.

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Well exactly, And Peter, seventy seven million people voted for him, said, hey,

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this is what we want you to do. Go fix

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the problem. But the thing is is that we need

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the other remaining millions of people that didn't vote for

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him to wise up and to get out of this.

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You know, this quagmire that has been created by the

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Democratic Party, by the mainstream media, by the establishment and

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people that do not look at America as being worthy

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of being first. They have been putting a stick in

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our spokes all these years, and now Donald Trump has

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come in. He's brought receipts to the European leaders and said,

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look what we've done for you. Have we ever asked

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anything of you? Have we ever asked anything of you?

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And right now today I'm asking for Greenland and all

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that we've given to you.

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Right absolutely not even he doesn't want Greenland to be

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owned by the United States, if you will. He wants

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to use Greenland as a layer of protection as a

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defense for the Western world, including the Western Europe, including NATO.

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He's not doing that for the United States. And I

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was surprised to see Canada that but for the fact

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that he made it clear during his speech actually that

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you know, Canada exists because of the United States, you know,

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having the Canadian But look, it's say, the left is

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permeated no matter where, whether you go the European countries

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or Canada, the left is permeated by this hatred of

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the Western civilization, if you will. They don't like what

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we stand for. They want to shape the Western countries

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into the image that doesn't exist, or they are not

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proud of what the West has produced. When you look

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at the Western civilization. Everything that we stand for right

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now is under attack, is under attack by a combination

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of what is coming to the Western civilization or to

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the Western countries from other countries, in combination of the

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leftists within our countries. You know, sometimes the greatest threat

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that Western civilization is facing right now where the Western countries,

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is coming from within the House of Freedom.

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Exactly exactly we can go to quick break Peter. We'll

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pick it up on the other side. More from Peter

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Welcome back to America. Bill Martin is here with her

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homage an attorney, Republican strategist, first generation immigrant from socialists Albania. Peter,

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you rightly say the threats are no longer existential. They

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are within the countries. I mean with the mass migration

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that's taken place, absorbing people from other countries that are

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not like minded. Nor do they have the ambition of

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assimilating and strengthening the countries who have welcomed them into

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their into the interior of their countries. If anything, they've

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been doing everything they can to bring the countries down.

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I mean we saw evidence of here recently, quite blatantly

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in Minnesota. Right.

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Look, we've been warned before.

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warned the West is that Arnold Goinby years ago said

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the great civilizations are not known that they commit suicide.

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We are committed suicide. You don't bring the Third.

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World to the West and expect them to assimilate and

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become part of, you know, our civilization. As a matter

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of fact, when they come to United States, they are

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imposing their values. And who are supporting them, The left

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is supporting them imposing their values upon us. They do

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disagree with everything that we stand for. They're coming to

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the United States to take advantage of what we offer

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them instead of embracing Americanism and the values that we have,

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the Christian values that we have. As a matter of fact,

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if you and I disagree with that, we would be

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accused of being xenophobes. And but you know, they're trying

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to beat us, especially the previous administration, the Biden administration,

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they were trying to beat us into this political submission

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that you have to agree with that what these people

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are saying, you have to agree with their values, you

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have to embrace. As a matter of fact, you have

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to make room for their values. And I think this

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is where we have to stand up and have the

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backbone and the character and the forty two to fight back.

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We have a leader in Donald Trump right now who's

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leading us and is taking that position that, look, we

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haven't done anything wrong to these people. They want to

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come here, They want to become Americans by all means,

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but you do it legally. When you look at the

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numbers and you see that eighty one percent of certain

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immigrants that came from certain countries including Yemen, Somalia and others,

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they are receiving public assistance, Seventy five percent of them

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do not speak even English. Most of their girls do

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not even go to high schools. I mean, these are

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values that are not American, They are not Western. You

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look at the abuse of the system. They have learned

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the system better than anyone else on how to abuse it,

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how to take advantage of it. You have cases that

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I've seen personally where you have these NGOs, including one

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to twenty six foot our laws in New York that

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they are walking these people through the process how to

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qualify for benefits, and instead of coming to your United

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States to be part of our society and improve America,

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they are taking advantage of America. It bothers me when

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I see elected officials who were not born in the

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United States, including some judges whose last names cannot even

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be pronounced, who are attacking the foundation of this country,

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attacking the constitution, attacking what we stand for. This is

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where I and that doesn't behoove me very well. I

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don't think that anyone in the United States should be

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allowed to hold an office unless they were born and

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raised here, and I wasn't born here. That doesn't serve

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me well that I say this, But I don't think

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we should be allowed until we've been here for at

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least the generation and we understand the founding documents of

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this country and what America stands for, and have some

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skin in the cave.

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They don't exactly.

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I can go back to the country where I came from.

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We didn't ask you to come here. You can leave

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any time. Get it one way together, and you can.

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Leave right exactly. And the thing, the other thing too,

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that's being overlooked here in this process. You say that,

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you know, the taxpayer is being taken advantage of, even

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the person, the immigrant is being taken advantage of these NGOs,

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and why are they doing that? You know, some have

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said routinely that, oh, it's all about it's all about

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the vote, you know, and you know, and demographic change

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in these different communities, and no doubt that's the case

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that's happening, But it cripples these poor people who come

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here and maybe they vaguely, Peter, maybe vaguely they have

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an idea of the American dream, and all that gets

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washed away because now they're going to be taken care of,

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They're going to be coddled. And you've destroyed You've destroyed

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their humanity, haven't you.

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Yes years ago, Rush Limbo said that the left destroying

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to create a permanent underclass in the United States. They

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want this permanent under class in the United States. They

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want a group of people that depend on the government,

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because when you have dependency on the government, they have

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full command and control over you. And I've seen that

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movie before and I don't like the ending of it.

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I've seen that in Albania when the government told that's

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what time to wake up what time to go to sleep,

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what food.

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To eat, what schools to attend.

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until nineteen ninety one, and the Democrats, the leftists are

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looking for the exact same thing in the United States.

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They want to make sure that they own this group

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of people, that they control them as a voting block,

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because exactly the biggest threat to the liberals would be

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prosperity through liberty. They want to make sure they don't

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have these groups prospering because then they can have liberty.

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And if they have liberty, they don't need the government

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because they are claiming they have liberty through prosperity, and

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they are very well calculated the left to make sure

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that they have these Why are they defending the legals

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because they need those numbers to make sure that right

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when it comes to Congress to the House, especially when

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we do the census, they have the numbers that they

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need to make sure that they get certain Congressmen or

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members of the House of Representatives that shouldn't be counted

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in the census, but exactly counting ten. And that's how

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they got the political power that they have.

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Right, this is why we're thirty eight trillion dollars in

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debt and counting. As I've discussed with the many economists,

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I said, tell me that the thirty eight trillion dollars

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that we're in debt has not been tied to a

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vote and they said, without a doubt, it's all about

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vote getting. And of course what you're saying here earlier,

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the perfect case in point is what we're seeing happening

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in Minnesota, you know, with little Somalia there. I mean,

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and what are we talking about? A base of about

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eighty thousand migrants there, eighty thousand, and look at all

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the habit that they're controlling. They control the entire state.

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Eighty thousand are controlling the entire state of Minnesota. What

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does that tell you?

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A lot of elected officials made millions of dollars out

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of it. I have no doubt that if the Department

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of Justice starts looking into this, and I hope they

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do it, they should subpoena each and every elected official

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in that area to make sure. How did someone who

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got elected to the United States Congress six years ago

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from sixty five thousand dollars when she had in a

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bank account when she was elected Elano mark. Now it's

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alleged that she's got thirty million. Where did the money

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come from? How come I cannot make thirty million dollars

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six years or seven years and I'm working six seven

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days away and I'm taking, you know, the risk of capitalism,

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investing and doing this and doing that.

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We're doing.

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We're not making that amount of money. How do these

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elected officials become millionaires when they are making one hundred

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and sixty thousand dollars a year? You know, these are

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question marks that are behind these people. And I hope

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the Department of Justice started looking into this, because when

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you have eighty thousand people determining the outcome of the

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election in Minnesota, they are the ones who are running

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the political direction of the state, but someone is enticing

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them into performing these ads that aren't violation of our

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laws and obviously taking advantage of the taxpayers. And I

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hope the DEVID. I cannot wait for Pam Bondy to

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issue warrants and then search warrants and even make arrest

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so that the American people will start realizing that we

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have an administration that the serious when it comes to

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to at least identifying, locating, and investigating fraud and waste

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and abuse, because this is the taxpayer's money, and we

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should at the bottom of this and send a message

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that you come to the United States, you come here legally,

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you embrace our values, you work hard like we do.

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You pay your taxes, and you do not abuse the

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taxpayers money just because.

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You have been given the opportunity to do that well.

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And this is one of the reasons why the administration

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is halting green card and citizenship processing for applicants from

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seventy five countries, which you you mentioned some earlier, Peter.

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Well, yeah, I mean when I look at the countries

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over here, it's interesting because most of these countries are

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somehow left leaning, even though it seventy five of them,

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and some of them, I mean, they have the utmost

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disrespect for our laws when they come over here. You

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we have cases over here that they are fraudulent marriages.

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You have fraudulent divorces. You have people on the report

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in their income to qualify for other benefits. You have

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parents divorce legally speaking, to make sure that they qualify

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for two sets of benefits over a year. I mean,

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they have learned the system of how to abuse it.

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But I don't blame them to a certain extent, I

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blame the American system for not going after them. We

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have to send a clear message to them that you

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don't come to United States to violate our laws. This

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is fraud, this is not This is violation of the law,

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and people should go to prison for this. Until we

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start arresting people and sending them to prison for this,

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I don't think they're going to learn the lesson.

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Do The voters in America got to hit the street

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like in Iran, finally say this is enough.

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I think the way we do it in the United States,

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thank God that we have free elections, and every couple

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of years, whether it's for the US Congress, the House

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every two years, Senate every six years, or president every

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four years, we can send that message. But the Republicans

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are going to have to do a better They're going

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to have to do a making better argument to the

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public that this is what we're doing. There are some

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Republicans who are not even supporting the president of this

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endeavor that we have to uprove this kind of evil

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that we have in our society and keep on deporting

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these people. Because the Democrats are strengthened by the number

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of illegals in the United States. You weaken them by

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deporting them. When you have the Speaker of the House, Jeffries,

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Kim Jeffries, he said that, oh, we shouldn't deport people

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who didn't violate the law. Yeah, they are illegal here

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the words of people itself, or when he said that

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if we ask people to produce it an idea to vote,

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he said, or discriminator or oppressing certain groups.

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We're not a president of party. You have to prove

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who you are. You're an American citizen. That is the case.

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No one is preventing people from voting. But I think

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that the president and the current administration should keep on

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doing what they are doing. Ice deserves a greater support

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from the elected officials, including the Democrats, and they're going

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to have to start issuings of poenas and then you know,

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doing some doing some damage to disorganized crime. It is

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an organ prime that is making someone billions, but at least,

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if not billions, millions of dollars.

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Well, it requires the support, no doubt, of political parties,

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but certainly at the core it deserves and demands the

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support of we the people. We the people need to

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keep the pressure. Pick up the phone, let your representative

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know how you feel about this, because if you don't

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say anything, then you are just giving tacit endorsement to

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business as usual.

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Absolutely agree with you.

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But the difference between the left and the right is

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that usually Republicans generally speak and they have a job,

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they have to go to work in the morning.

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The Democrats, some of them, are being paid to do this.

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And when you go to certain websites without mentioning one

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over here, you can find websites that promote anyone who

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wants to join these violent protests if you will, and

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you will be paid to do that. Well, Republicans, we

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don't do that. We still believe in law and order.

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We believe that the government functions. We believe that this

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can be saw peacefully by voting and by writing and

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you know, making fun calls. As she said, But you know,

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the left is quite violent when it comes to opposing

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the President of the United States and he's agenda. I mean,

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look what they are doing all over the United States,

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not only you know, Minneapolis, but or other places, but

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all over the United States. Are you They've been using

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violence for the best I would say, you know, at

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least in Trump game, you know, on the scene, they've

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been quite violent to oppose him, when when I'm opposing him.

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Well, Peter Lamage, we got to leave it there. Thank you,

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as always, I appreciate the time. He's an attorney of

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Hey, good morning America. Good to have you with us.

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Phil Martinez here with doctor John Zimic. He is the

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author of No Second Amendment, No First, and The Politically

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Incorrect Guide to Catholicism, author and editor of Christian Nation,

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which is part of Emerald Robinson's substack. Hey John, how

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are you.

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I'm doing well, Bell.

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Thanks.

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The news is constantly interesting, and we're getting whipsawed from

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left to right. Good news, bad news, puzzling news. It's

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hard to stay on top of it all.

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Well, it's almost like some of this stuff is just coming,

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you know, it's been laying, you know, down low, but

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it's now being exposed. And I think that what happens

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is the nature of God Jennifers. Is that it has

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to expose that which is unjust and unrighteous, and it's

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vomiting it up out of its own system, is what

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I'm sensing. What do you think?

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Well, you know, for some of us, we saw what

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was going on back in twenty twenty, but people thought

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we were crazy when they closed the churches but kept

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the abortion clinics and casinos open. Some of us asked

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some questions when they tried to force us to get

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an untested vaccine, claiming it was an emergency, got I

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legally approved as an emergency because there was no alternative,

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and then they justified that by getting rid of the alternatives,

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by preventing us from taking ivermectin, by discouraging us from

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taking vitamin D. They were desperate to create a medical

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monopoly so that they could coerce us to be vaccinated,

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so they could control our lives, control our movements. We

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weren't a lot. The constitution was suspended. You couldn't have

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gatherings of people except if you were part of a

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00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:08.039
politically connected group. Remember, church services were banned. Trump events

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were considered were called super spreader events. But you could

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have riots for black lives matter right.

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It was a.

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Narco tyranny, anarchy for me, tyranny for thee. So we

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some of us knew back in twenty twenty. Oh my god,

622
00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:25.720
this is a pro to authoritarian state. Our elites regard

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00:32:25.960 --> 00:32:29.119
have a total double standard. They and their friends are

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exempt from the law. We are being going to be

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subject to the most strictest possible prosecution. Look look at

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the people who defend who crying over that lesbian activists

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who tried to run down an ice officer and got shot.

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The same people praised the Capitol Hill, the Capitol police

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officer who shot down Ashley babbittt on January sixth, who

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was a threat to no one. There is no pretense

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of moral consistency on.

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The left, and of course people on their side went

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to jail, right John, They faced consequences for doing this right.

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No, none of the rioters who burned down our cities

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and caused ten million dollars of damage and more than

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a dozen debts, nobody went to prison. Virtually nobody was fined.

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In fact, some cities paid reparations to the protesters for

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having restrained them from burning their cities down. Meanwhile, there

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are people bankrupted there were people committed suicide like Matthew

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Perna under the law fair of January sixth, and our

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Justice Department is not prosecuting nobody. None of the people

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who did the j six crackdown, who violated the constitution,

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who imprisoned people for nonviolent political speech for years, put

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them in solitary and confinement, none of them have been punished.

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That's why people are screwing about Pam Bondy. Remember, Pam

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Bondy used to work for Pfizer. Pambondy is close to

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the scientologists. Pam Bondy helped prosecute George Zimmerman for defending himself.

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She was a bad pick for attorney general. But it's

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not just that the Democrats are preventing Trump's appointments from

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getting from getting approved and Republicans like Chuck Grassley are

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playing playing along, honoring ridiculous old fart Senate traditions like

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the Blue Slip, which basically is left over from the

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nineteen thirties. All these old customs and norms and conventions

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that used to work when the Democrats were a mainstream

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patriotic political party, the party of John F. Kennedy, they

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don't work now. That it's the party of foreigny hottests,

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domestic communists, rioters, transgender maniacs who shoot up Christian schools

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and Christian churches. And of course that attack on a

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Baptist church exactly because they said someone attending worked for Ice.

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Yeah, has had the same name of the pastor, which

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still has not been confirmed. But even still regardless, to

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go into a church service a little bit of a

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violation of the First Amendment.

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Right now, if that had been a mosque, oh, the

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people would have just they wouldn't have even had the

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police involved. They would have beaten those the invaders into

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the ground and they wouldn't have been prosecuted. I don't

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blame the people in the church for not doing that,

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because they would all have been put in prison. They

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would all ended up getting raped in prison because the

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Blue State would prosecute them the way they did the

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January sixth defendants, and too many Republicans would say, well,

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they may have overreached, they broke the law. They should

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have called the police. The Minnesota. Minneapolis police are not

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going to protect a white Baptist church from black protesters,

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from radical Mexican foreign protesters, from rap from transgender protesters.

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So we do not enjoy the protection of the law. Christians, conservatives,

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white males. We are outside the protection of the law

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and defenders. Lawbreakers, foreign law breakers who've already been ordered

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to be deported, can do whatever they want. That is

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the new system. That is the status quo that Donald

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Trump is trying with great difficulty to sort of get

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under control.

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You know, John, you look at the police chief for Minneapolis,

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and he's totally neutered. I mean, he is conflicted, you

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00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:25.199
can see because he is not honoring the ethos of

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the men in blue, which is that you're watching each

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other's back. There is a brotherhood here.

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He's not fulfilling his oath of office. He actually apologized

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on television to the Somali fraudsters who were bilking the

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taxpayer of tens of millions of dollars. He apologized for

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having to do the investigation to reveal that these jihadi

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foreign colonists, colonists who were brought to this country for

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no reason. They were flown past six safe Muslim countries

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they could have gone as so called refugees. They were

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purposely settled in Maine and in Mini Minnesota, allegedly to

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fix the diversity deficit. Now, if there are too many

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white people in a place, it's a diversity deficit. That's

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the language. The logic of the segregation is simply being

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turned on.

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Its head exactly. And how diverse is it now when

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you've got about eighty thousand Somalis controlling the entire state?

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Yeah, it is astonishing. I mean, I thought we Irish

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when we took over New York and Boston. I thought

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we were impressive. But we at least had the numbers.

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We had millions of Irish when we took over those cities,

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and we came legally, and we still created an enormous

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web of corruption. I mean, Tammany Hall is in from

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this for a reason. But at least my Irish ancestors

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came here legally and they had the numbers when they

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took over the city. But white Midwestern liberals are such

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whimps that a few thousand Jihadis can colonize them and

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they all become slaves. They all start kissing their feet

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and praying in Arabic and eating their terrible Somali food

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and choking it down. It is a spectacle. If I

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didn't have to live here, I would find it funny.

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I mean, it's like I used to say that the

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world is run by James Bond villains, the church is

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run by Austin Powers villains. Now the state is coming

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to be run by Austin Powers villains as well well.

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And the thing that's so scary about this, John, like

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you say, is that they're amongst us and here even

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though it's been exposed and being exposed. I mean, the

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American people want some expediency on this. They want to

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see justice met out.

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Oh.

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A part of the big problem is so many Republicans

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are complicit. John Cornyan, the Republican senator from Texas, was

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a big part of bringing some Ali refugees to America,

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a big part of building mosques around Texas, and now

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he's running TV commercials picturing himself photoshop with Donald Trump,

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pretending that he was maga all along. The biggest problem

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in America right now is cowardly Republicans. Look at Indiana. Indiana,

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they would not fix the electoral districts to reflect the

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state's conservative population. They left in place for Democrat congressional districts.

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The Democrats take over Virginia in part because we picked

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a lousy nominee because we needed her to be a

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black female immigrant. Has to be a black female immigrant,

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or you can't run for office as a Republican. She

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lost because she was a bad candidate. And now the

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Democrats are turning Virginia into California. They're mandating that schools

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have to teach that January sixth was an attempted revolution.

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They're putting abortion up through birth. They're cracking down on guns,

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they're getting rid of any hand counting of ballots. They're

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enshrining voter fraud forever in the state of Virginia. The

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Democrats only have to win once, and they rig the

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systems so they can never lose again. Republicans win, and

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we go have a genatonic and we go play a

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few rounds of golf, and we hire some cheap labor,

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and we wink at the at the immigrants swarming in,

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whose kids are all going to be citizens and are

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all going to vote Democrat. The Republicans are an unseerious

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political party. They're they're kind of a joke. The Democrats

754
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are an extremist paramilitary front like the Irish Republican Army.

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as you were saying, John, the Republicans are really being

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called out for their can I say milk toastiness? I guess,

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I mean, they're just they've lost their spine, and it

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almost seems like every time they get off the reservation

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it requires Donald Trump to, you know, treat them like

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the Europeans, you know, bring them back on the reservation,

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do a spine, you know, replacement, and stand them up again.

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Well, what you're seeing is the rhinos in the Senate,

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like like Senator Thune, they are trying to wait Trump out.

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They're hoping that the Republicans lose the mid terms in

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a year. They're hoping so that the next two years

844
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can be an impeachment circus of Donald Trump. All they

845
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want is to take back the Republican Party for the

846
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country club Republicans, for the people who want cheap caddies

847
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on the golf course and don't care about the future

848
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of America. They are waiting out the Trump Revolution. They

849
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know that there's nobody to replace Donald Trump. There's nobody

850
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with the political skills the appeal of Donald Trump. So

851
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they're hoping that they can just get the party back

852
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and go back to their old job of being the

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Washington generals. Remember them, they were the white guy. His job.

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It was to lose every night to the Harlem globetrotters.

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That the Republicans internalized sometime in the nineties that that

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was their job just to be beautiful losers, to lose gracefully,

857
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cash a check and retire in negated community. To hell

858
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with the country, to hell with the future.

859
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How can you associate with a political party that promotes

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the kind of policy that is so detrimental to America

861
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at large? John, just for the sake of power, Just

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for the sake of being able to go to a

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Beltway cocktail party.

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I think that's part of it. And also they don't

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want their wives to get the stinkye at the country club.

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The idea that protesters might come to their house. They

867
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have a literal panic attack. These are men without chess,

868
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as C. S. Lewis used to say, men without any character,

869
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without any passion. These are not men who signed up

870
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and served in the military. These are not men who

871
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would have ever been cops or firemen. These are not

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men who take risks. They slid into their current positions

873
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through cronyism and nepotism and business connections, and they won't

874
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let themselves realize that there are the people on the

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other side. The people on the left are dead serious.

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Some of them are willing to get killed, They're willing

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to get in street fights, They're willing to burn stuff down.

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The left has become a religious a religious movement. It's

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a zealous, fanatical religious movement of post Christianity. It takes

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elements from Christianity and wears them as a skin suit.

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Anti racism. Racism is wrong. Wait, you don't believe that

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human beings were made in the image of God. You

883
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think we're just hyper developed monkeys. You think it's okay

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to abort babies, you think it's okay to euthanize the handicapped.

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So where does this sacredness of the individual come that

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we have to treat everybody equally? You are racists? Wait,

887
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so why do you think racism is wrong? Explain it?

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I can explain it based on the Bible. You don't

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believe in the Bible. You believe in Darwinian random evolution.

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Darwin was a racist. Darwin believed that the non white

891
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racist should gradually be exterminated for the advancement of mankind.

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Darwinism applied is Nazism. You claim to be a Darwinist,

893
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yet you want to pick pieces in look, y'all, I

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want Martin Luther Kings and Margaret Sanger's. It's completely incoherent,

895
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But coherence is not the point. Emotional resonance. Getting people

896
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revvd up is the point, the left is one big

897
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snake oil revival church without Jesus. If Jim Jones set

898
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the pattern, the Reverend Jim Jones who did that cult

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in Guiana where he had a thousand people commit suicide.

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People don't remember. He was a political leftist. He was

901
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a close ally of Harold Brown. He was the get

902
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out the vote operation for California Democrats. He was close

903
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friends with Harvey Milk, the gay activist. He was to

904
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the to the left what Jerry Folwell was to the right,

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and he when he didn't get what he wanted, he

906
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fled to went to Guiana, created a suicidal death cult.

907
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The America right now is being turned into one big

908
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jonestown run by a leftist post Christian apocalyptic cult.

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Right.

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Yeah, you can't even associate it really with the Democratic

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Party because it's it's just a it's just way out

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of step with one another. You know, you mentioned Margaret

913
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Sanger and Martin Luther King Junior in the same sentence.

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I think if if Margaret Sanger would have had her way,

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she would have aborted Martin Luther King Junior. Think about that, Yeah, yeah,

916
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she she would have mark.

917
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Margaret Sanger explicitly wanted to cut black birth rates. She

918
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wanted to cut the birth rates of anyone she considered defective.

919
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The slogan of planned parentige for decades was more children

920
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from the fit, fewer from the unfit. And this is

921
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the week of the March for Life and pro lifers.

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A lot of us were disappointed in the progress of

923
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the Trump administration, which is a mixed bag. Okay, Trump

924
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administration is a mixed bag. The Biden administration was a

925
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bag of plutonium and black plague. The Democrats are one

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hundred percent for abortion up through birth, for euthanasia, for

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eliminating down syndrome kids, and for transing small children, letting

928
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sex perverts groom and distort and hijack small children and

929
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turn them into trans eunuchs, sexually mutilate them, psychologically abuse them.

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That is what the Democrats are about. And no, you

931
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can't make it all make logical sense again, because the

932
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Democrats have become a false religion, and a religion that

933
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is not based on reason, that can't be subject to

934
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logical consistency. It's based on moral hysteria and force. If

935
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you stand up to their moral hysteria, Antipha will show

936
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up the force will be applied, or the FEDS will

937
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show up. Remember the FBI dragging a pro life father

938
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away from his kids and taking him to jail with

939
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an armed raid with rifles. All he had done was

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defend his kid outside an abortion clinic from an angry protester.

941
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They tried to throw him in prison. But we're supposed

942
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to let human traffickers from Ecuador live here indefinitely on welfare.

943
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And if you try to remove them, you're the gestapo

944
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engaged in ethnic cleansing.

945
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How dare you interfere in their enterprise to molest your children?

946
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Get them engaged in human trafficking? And oh yeah, a

947
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few murders here and there. I mean, what's the big whoop? Right?

948
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Right and again? And if the Republicans don't start taking

949
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it seriously that they're dealing not with a fellow American

950
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political party but Apaca lib dick cult that is willing

951
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to trash all the laws. Joe Biden was willing to

952
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let twenty million people walk in here illegally, and now

953
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we're being called a gestapo for trying to deport a

954
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few of them. Tom Holman deported nine hundred thousand people

955
00:52:16.039 --> 00:52:18.440
for Barack Obama he got a medal from Obama for

956
00:52:18.519 --> 00:52:22.880
doing it. But then they realized they can't get the

957
00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:26.320
support of the American working class. So because of Donald Trump,

958
00:52:26.400 --> 00:52:30.239
they saw the ordinary Americans want reason, order and patriotism.

959
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:33.440
So they decided they have to replace the American working

960
00:52:33.480 --> 00:52:37.880
class with millions of third world colonists who will vote

961
00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:39.079
as they are told.

962
00:52:39.599 --> 00:52:41.920
This is rank evil, John, I mean, the bottom line

963
00:52:41.960 --> 00:52:45.519
is this is just rank spiritual war, and the people

964
00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:48.079
need to understand this. This is why they have to

965
00:52:48.199 --> 00:52:51.880
mount up an offense against this evil.

966
00:52:52.639 --> 00:52:54.239
Part of that has to be prayer. We have to

967
00:52:54.239 --> 00:52:57.199
pray because this is a spiritual war, and the war

968
00:52:57.320 --> 00:52:59.679
is in each of our hearts. I mean, every day

969
00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:03.639
tempted to despair and just climb into a crawl into

970
00:53:03.679 --> 00:53:07.000
a bottle of bourbon because it's so bad. What we

971
00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:09.679
face is so dark. But there are signs of thererow

972
00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:12.599
glimmers of hope. What Donald Trump did with Greenland was

973
00:53:12.760 --> 00:53:16.159
hard ball negotiation, but it ended up with a good

974
00:53:16.199 --> 00:53:20.840
defense agreement that's going to allow the US to control

975
00:53:21.159 --> 00:53:25.800
the Arctic Circle and keep Russian and Chinese influence and

976
00:53:25.880 --> 00:53:28.719
maybe troops from landing in North America.

977
00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:33.960
Yeah, could you imagine what it would take. I mean, here,

978
00:53:34.280 --> 00:53:37.000
Greenland's trying to defend its country and what's this sind

979
00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:42.280
sixteen soldiers to defend its country. Give me a break, Yeah.

980
00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:45.320
I mean all these leftists getting upset about a foreign

981
00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:49.599
colony of a European monarchy. I Greenland is a colony

982
00:53:50.119 --> 00:53:53.360
of a European monarchy. That's something the left used to hate.

983
00:53:53.920 --> 00:53:56.920
But again, anything Donald Trump is for, they'll be against.

984
00:53:57.440 --> 00:54:00.719
And they hate Trump because he's one of the only

985
00:54:01.039 --> 00:54:05.639
conservative politicians who connected with ordinary people since Ronald Reagan.

986
00:54:06.079 --> 00:54:09.239
And instead of welcoming him, the Republican Party turned on

987
00:54:09.320 --> 00:54:12.800
him because all these envious losers who couldn't get elected

988
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presidents shouldn't be elected dogcatcher. They didn't say, oh wow,

989
00:54:16.480 --> 00:54:20.039
finally someone can carry our ideas across through to the

990
00:54:20.119 --> 00:54:22.639
end line. No, like, no, wait, what about No, it's

991
00:54:22.679 --> 00:54:25.840
my turn. Remember we nominated Bob Dole for president in

992
00:54:25.880 --> 00:54:27.519
nineteen ninety six because it was his.

993
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Turn, Yes, right, exactly.

994
00:54:29.320 --> 00:54:30.800
That is not a serious political party.

995
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:34.480
And then John McCain because it was his turn, yeah right.

996
00:54:34.599 --> 00:54:38.079
And then when at a time when America was against

997
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the Iraq war and immigration, we elect a pro war

998
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open borders Rhino Hack, who had been one of the

999
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most corrupt senators in America, and then, in order to

1000
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cover up all his campaign chicanery, he backed campaigned finance reform,

1001
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which meant no free speech for Americans. You can have

1002
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pornography on the Internet, but you can't have political speech.

1003
00:55:01.440 --> 00:55:03.719
It's the exact opposite of what the First Amendment was

1004
00:55:03.760 --> 00:55:07.920
meant to do. But John McCain, you know, dutifully and

1005
00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:10.639
then he went out and lost gracefully to Barack Obama,

1006
00:55:11.159 --> 00:55:14.239
being the good Washington senator that he won Washington General

1007
00:55:14.280 --> 00:55:14.840
that he was.

1008
00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:17.760
Yeah, and he tied the hands of his vice presidential

1009
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candidate in the meanwhile, too, which is a whole nother story.

1010
00:55:21.239 --> 00:55:22.880
We got a minute left. I'm gonna let you wrap

1011
00:55:22.920 --> 00:55:25.039
it up. I think a lot of good news coming

1012
00:55:25.119 --> 00:55:28.239
out of Dave Os and what Donald Trump has done.

1013
00:55:28.639 --> 00:55:31.760
He stood up to the Europeans and the administration just

1014
00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:36.960
to announce it's finally going to end grotesque experiments with

1015
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to create these horrible experimental non human creatures, all in

1018
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the name of fighting COVID, which let us not forget

1019
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Anthony Fauci created COVID as part of as a bioweapons program,

1020
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you don't see the corruption there, you're blonde.

1022
00:56:03.719 --> 00:56:06.800
Still nobody's in jail. That's the end of the story

1023
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here so far, anyway. Doctor John Zamerica, author of No Second,

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The author and editor of Christian Nation, which is part

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of Emerald Robinson's substack. Doctor John, as always, we appreciate

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the time. Thank you, sir, take care, Thank you Bill.

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Bill Martinez Live.

1050
00:57:34.440 --> 00:57:36.599
Hey, good morning, Welcome. Six minutes after the top of

1051
00:57:36.599 --> 00:57:40.239
the hour, Bill Martinez here with Homara Hassami. What a story.

1052
00:57:41.239 --> 00:57:45.679
She was born in Iran in nineteen sixty six, and

1053
00:57:45.719 --> 00:57:48.079
at the age of sixteen, she graduated from high school

1054
00:57:48.119 --> 00:57:52.639
with honors, but was denied acceptance to Iranian universities due

1055
00:57:52.679 --> 00:57:56.800
to her political beliefs in activism. Her activism forced her

1056
00:57:56.840 --> 00:57:59.679
to spend a significant period of time in prison in

1057
00:57:59.719 --> 00:58:02.960
a word, as a teenager. She's here to tell us

1058
00:58:03.039 --> 00:58:03.719
the story.

1059
00:58:04.039 --> 00:58:04.360
Homer.

1060
00:58:04.519 --> 00:58:06.079
Welcome, Michelle. Good to have you with us.

1061
00:58:06.480 --> 00:58:08.719
Good morning, Vale, how are you. Thanks for having me.

1062
00:58:09.039 --> 00:58:13.079
I'm doing terrific. Happy New Year to you. In reading

1063
00:58:13.079 --> 00:58:16.400
your story, I mean at such a young age. Here

1064
00:58:16.599 --> 00:58:20.239
we have the Shaw of Iran following what in nineteen

1065
00:58:20.360 --> 00:58:25.400
seventy nine, but prior to that you saw problems there

1066
00:58:25.440 --> 00:58:30.679
in Iran and that raised your activism and put the

1067
00:58:30.719 --> 00:58:31.639
spotlight on you.

1068
00:58:33.000 --> 00:58:33.239
Ah.

1069
00:58:33.320 --> 00:58:36.239
Yes, as you mentioned, the Shaws of Iran, you know,

1070
00:58:37.679 --> 00:58:43.440
was in power back until nineteen seventy nine and people

1071
00:58:43.519 --> 00:58:47.000
were very unhappy. There was an economic disparity, there was

1072
00:58:47.119 --> 00:58:51.079
lack of social freedom, and so that caused a popular

1073
00:58:51.280 --> 00:58:55.440
revolution against the Shaw, which overthrew him.

1074
00:58:55.480 --> 00:58:57.360
But a lot of.

1075
00:58:57.360 --> 00:59:02.079
Activists were imprisoned at the Shaws time, so the society

1076
00:59:02.320 --> 00:59:06.679
really didn't have time to discuss who Romaine was. And

1077
00:59:06.760 --> 00:59:10.760
because Romiene was a religious leader, and of course the

1078
00:59:10.880 --> 00:59:16.280
show let all the the mosques network you know in place,

1079
00:59:16.320 --> 00:59:21.119
it didn't touch him. So Romeni was able to promise

1080
00:59:21.199 --> 00:59:25.719
people freedom, the women's freedom, and people trusted him. So

1081
00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:28.320
that's how it ended up that he kind of was

1082
00:59:28.360 --> 00:59:32.920
trying to consolidate the power, but it didn't come very easy.

1083
00:59:33.079 --> 00:59:36.679
The people resisted and that's why there were a lot

1084
00:59:36.719 --> 00:59:40.840
of political groups formed after the revolution, and there were

1085
00:59:40.880 --> 00:59:44.320
a lot of young people women were attracted to them.

1086
00:59:44.880 --> 00:59:48.079
One of the main organizations back then was the m K,

1087
00:59:49.119 --> 00:59:54.239
the People's Majority Organization of Iran, which quickly became very

1088
00:59:54.559 --> 01:00:01.719
popular among the youth and among the women, and so comes.

1089
01:00:01.760 --> 01:00:05.039
You know, we fast forward to nineteen eighty one when

1090
01:00:05.119 --> 01:00:08.280
Homeni realized that if it doesn't do anything, it's going

1091
01:00:08.320 --> 01:00:14.320
to be overthrow by another popular uprising. So he banned

1092
01:00:14.599 --> 01:00:20.599
all the political organizations and made a decree that anyone

1093
01:00:20.639 --> 01:00:24.960
who's opposing the Supreme Leadership, which was he was in

1094
01:00:25.079 --> 01:00:29.840
charge of that would be placed in prison and you

1095
01:00:29.920 --> 01:00:32.840
can't kill them. So that was like a start of

1096
01:00:32.840 --> 01:00:40.239
a very bloody era for the Iranian people, and many,

1097
01:00:40.320 --> 01:00:47.039
many supporters of the different political groups were executed, were imprisoned,

1098
01:00:47.559 --> 01:00:54.679
and the whole resistance, you know, became very just continued,

1099
01:00:54.760 --> 01:00:56.920
you know, the resistance that they started to topple the

1100
01:00:57.000 --> 01:01:00.960
show again form to topple this current regime.

1101
01:01:01.920 --> 01:01:05.679
Now that the show not the show, but Coomani. He

1102
01:01:05.840 --> 01:01:08.559
was in exile before coming back to Iran.

1103
01:01:08.639 --> 01:01:13.320
Correct, Correct, he wasn't exiled because he opposed the Shaw

1104
01:01:14.000 --> 01:01:21.000
for very fundamentalistic views, like he opposed the Shaw because

1105
01:01:21.920 --> 01:01:25.079
of the women's right, so Shaw said that women can vote,

1106
01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:30.679
and because Romeni was very fanatic and very reactionary force,

1107
01:01:30.760 --> 01:01:33.199
he opposed the show. So he had some clashes, but

1108
01:01:33.280 --> 01:01:37.199
it wasn't from like a democratic view, you know. Abeli's

1109
01:01:37.280 --> 01:01:44.119
view was very fundamentalistic and very maybe just backdated into

1110
01:01:46.199 --> 01:01:50.239
the history, like the reactionary force. So he opposed it,

1111
01:01:50.239 --> 01:01:52.320
and he was in exiled, but he wasn't in France.

1112
01:01:52.360 --> 01:01:55.400
He just moved to France. Maybe he was in Iraq,

1113
01:01:56.480 --> 01:01:59.679
like a few months before the revolution. He was expelled

1114
01:01:59.679 --> 01:02:04.559
from Iraq and went to France, and that's where it

1115
01:02:04.599 --> 01:02:07.599
got a lot of media attention. So truly like he

1116
01:02:07.719 --> 01:02:11.280
became like it was pushed to become like a leader.

1117
01:02:11.280 --> 01:02:12.920
And as I said, because he was a religious and

1118
01:02:12.960 --> 01:02:16.360
people trusted him, he was able to take over.

1119
01:02:17.039 --> 01:02:20.239
And you would think just on the face that what

1120
01:02:20.400 --> 01:02:23.880
he was, you know, promoting, you know, kind of an

1121
01:02:23.920 --> 01:02:29.480
anti women agenda that the women themselves would stand up

1122
01:02:29.519 --> 01:02:32.960
and say, you know, without you know, really understanding the

1123
01:02:33.039 --> 01:02:37.800
iotola fully, you know, you're in trouble. You've got a

1124
01:02:37.880 --> 01:02:43.960
revolution going on. The Shaw's government collapses and a void

1125
01:02:44.039 --> 01:02:48.280
doesn't exist, and so I hope upon hope. You're you're

1126
01:02:48.320 --> 01:02:52.920
hoping that the iyatola would be the answer, but as

1127
01:02:53.000 --> 01:02:58.599
time would demonstrate, you ended up in not getting what

1128
01:02:58.639 --> 01:03:00.440
you expected. I guess we can put it that way.

1129
01:03:01.760 --> 01:03:05.199
Yes, that's exactly what happened. People wanted freedom, you know,

1130
01:03:05.280 --> 01:03:08.360
people weren't cheating for one person or another one. You know,

1131
01:03:08.400 --> 01:03:12.599
the same thing that is here. People want the infra

1132
01:03:12.760 --> 01:03:15.880
structure to be correct. We want freedom to be in place.

1133
01:03:15.920 --> 01:03:18.679
So if there is freedom, then you can advertise for

1134
01:03:18.800 --> 01:03:22.239
your group. You can advertise for ideology, and if it's

1135
01:03:22.360 --> 01:03:27.239
something that people wanted, then that's good. So that's the

1136
01:03:27.280 --> 01:03:30.000
one that people were looking for. And as you mentioned,

1137
01:03:30.119 --> 01:03:34.639
women were actually the first who opposed harmony because harmine

1138
01:03:34.800 --> 01:03:37.599
right after just a couple of months after the revolution,

1139
01:03:38.239 --> 01:03:41.639
in March of nineteen seventy nine, there was a huge

1140
01:03:41.719 --> 01:03:50.079
rally against a compulsory hedgehob because they started to limit

1141
01:03:50.159 --> 01:03:52.360
the women. They said that if you want to come

1142
01:03:52.360 --> 01:03:54.920
to the governmental agencies, you have to cover your hair.

1143
01:03:55.280 --> 01:03:57.880
So they kind of started in placing and forcing the

1144
01:03:57.920 --> 01:04:02.559
head job on the women. Women resisted. There was a

1145
01:04:02.639 --> 01:04:07.280
huge rally and there were you know, the big Iranian opposition,

1146
01:04:07.320 --> 01:04:10.159
the mk who are actually you know, they're Muslim and

1147
01:04:10.280 --> 01:04:11.199
their women.

1148
01:04:10.840 --> 01:04:12.280
Cover their hair.

1149
01:04:12.679 --> 01:04:16.440
They were participating in their rally as well, because it's

1150
01:04:16.480 --> 01:04:19.239
the freedom of choice. You have to have a freedom

1151
01:04:19.679 --> 01:04:22.519
to choose if you want to have the job or

1152
01:04:22.559 --> 01:04:26.760
not his job. You know, if you remember, you know,

1153
01:04:26.800 --> 01:04:30.679
being read in history that result Shaw is the father

1154
01:04:30.760 --> 01:04:37.119
of Muhammad resort. He actually forced women to take off

1155
01:04:37.159 --> 01:04:40.960
their job, which was resisted, and a lot of resentment

1156
01:04:41.239 --> 01:04:44.119
among the people because you know, if you're living in

1157
01:04:44.239 --> 01:04:47.320
one style and you know you're covering your hair for

1158
01:04:47.360 --> 01:04:51.280
whatever reason, traditional or religious or anything, and you're forced

1159
01:04:51.320 --> 01:04:53.440
to take it off, you know, that's as bad as

1160
01:04:53.840 --> 01:04:57.320
you force a person to put it on. So what

1161
01:04:57.360 --> 01:04:59.719
we're fighting for is freedom, freedom of choice.

1162
01:05:00.559 --> 01:05:03.400
Well, you definitely, as as I tell the kids all

1163
01:05:03.440 --> 01:05:07.159
the time, I tell my children, experience defines preference. But wow,

1164
01:05:07.280 --> 01:05:11.079
what you know, you had three decades of a nightmare

1165
01:05:11.119 --> 01:05:15.119
of experience here and what I see happening in Iran

1166
01:05:15.199 --> 01:05:18.039
right now. You know from our history books here in

1167
01:05:18.079 --> 01:05:23.519
America you've got revolutionaries that are holding onto that same

1168
01:05:23.679 --> 01:05:26.719
spirit that you talked about that you were looking for

1169
01:05:26.920 --> 01:05:29.960
back in the latter nineties, you were just looking for freedom,

1170
01:05:30.320 --> 01:05:34.159
but it seems that there is a real, definitive commitment

1171
01:05:34.599 --> 01:05:38.599
to freedom that you know, it's putting a lot of

1172
01:05:38.599 --> 01:05:41.199
pressure on the Iatola and the Malas. Right.

1173
01:05:42.559 --> 01:05:46.559
Yes, I mean that resistance to regime number one enemy

1174
01:05:46.719 --> 01:05:50.920
is the people of Iran. When I went to prison,

1175
01:05:51.119 --> 01:05:53.159
that was just so obvious to me.

1176
01:05:53.239 --> 01:05:56.400
You know, I was a teenager, sixteen years old. That's amazing.

1177
01:05:56.480 --> 01:05:58.599
I just unbelievable. But go ahead.

1178
01:05:58.639 --> 01:06:01.800
But you know, sometimes you know, you tell a kid

1179
01:06:01.840 --> 01:06:05.280
that this is a hot item, don't touch it, and

1180
01:06:05.480 --> 01:06:07.559
when they touch it, they realize it's hot, so they

1181
01:06:07.840 --> 01:06:10.519
So that's that's how, you know, my experience was. You know,

1182
01:06:11.079 --> 01:06:13.119
I knew the regime is bad, the regime is this,

1183
01:06:13.320 --> 01:06:17.840
but I really didn't realize that how awful and how

1184
01:06:17.880 --> 01:06:21.679
evil this regime is, Like you cannot even compromise with

1185
01:06:21.719 --> 01:06:24.920
the regime. So in prison, I realized that the regime

1186
01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:29.360
is afraid of its main opposition, the MK, and I said, okay,

1187
01:06:29.400 --> 01:06:31.519
so that's that gave me a guidance that you know

1188
01:06:31.599 --> 01:06:33.599
what to do after I left present.

1189
01:06:34.119 --> 01:06:35.280
So exactly, the.

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Regime is, you know, it's evil and it has shown

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it before you know. The world is buitinessing it right

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now with the level of atrocities, with the level of

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massacre that you see. But this is not new for us,

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you know, as Iranian people exactly.

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We're talking with home Era has saw me. We got

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We're back with the home. Erasami as our guest in

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nineteen sixty six. She was born in Iran. At the

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age of sixteen, she spent some time in prison, so

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she experienced the harshness of the Ayatola and this new

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government that came into play after the Shaw was ousted

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in nineteen seventy nine. Give our audience an idea of

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what life was like in Iran under the Shaw prior

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before you know, everything went off off the skids there,

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but in terms of the level of experience freedom that

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you were enjoying, not that it was total, but it

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was definitely quite the contrast between the Shaw and the Ayatola.

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I was, of course, you know, very young at the

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time that the show was in place, but I could

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hear that social freedom wasn't there. So people were older

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than me, you know, they were talking about that if

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you say something against the show, you'll be imprisoned. And

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there was torture. There was like savak is the secret

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police of the show, that was torturing people. And at

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the same time, you know, there was like socioeconomic you know,

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disparity among the people because there were like a few

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percentage of the people who were wealthy and then a

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lot of people were poor, and so there was a corruption.

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So it was a lot of unsatisfactory you know, people

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were unsatisfied.

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And later on, you know, when.

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I was less reading you know, or all histories and

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listened to the official of the shows, then I realized

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the depth of you know, corruption and lack of social

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freedom and the torture and this you know, shurely had

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one single party, so you had to either be enrolled

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in that one or just be opposing you know, the show.

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So it's there was all those you know, got together

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and caused the people to revolt. Of course, you know

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what we ended up, you know right now was you know,

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this regime killed more than the show's regime killed. The

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economic disparity is even worse than the show's time. Women

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you know, back then they didn't have to cover their hair.

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Right now, they have to cover their hair. So there were,

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you know, some differences, and this regime is much worse,

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But that doesn't justify that the Shaw's time was good.

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So the notion of that some media, gerven talks, or

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some notions that it is there that the people of

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Iran want to go back to the monarchy, that's just

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a ridiculous notion. You know, no one in the twenty

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01:14:21.760 --> 01:14:25.680
first century wants to go back to have one person

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in charge of you. You know, that's just does not

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01:14:29.920 --> 01:14:34.479
match with any democratic value. That's not what the Iranian

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01:14:34.520 --> 01:14:38.960
people have sacrificed thousands and thousands, you know, to have

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01:14:39.399 --> 01:14:44.520
to replace, you know, supreme leader with another figurehead that

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has a crown on it. So that's just not correct.

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Yeah, I know that there's been some discussion here in

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the West thinking that maybe the Shaw's sun would be

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a consideration, But what I'm hearing is that no, because

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like you said, you don't want to have another crown

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running Iran. You want the people in charge of the

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01:15:08.960 --> 01:15:12.199
government of Iran. Right do you want to embrace some

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01:15:12.319 --> 01:15:17.720
Western democratic values and bureaucracy. If I can say that

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in a nice way.

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01:15:19.640 --> 01:15:25.920
That's totally correct. There is a coalition it's called National

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01:15:25.960 --> 01:15:30.279
Council of Resistance of Iran in CORO, which was formed

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01:15:30.279 --> 01:15:32.880
in nineteen eighty one after all the chaos that the

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01:15:32.920 --> 01:15:38.399
regime caused, as the main part of this is Amyka.

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01:15:38.640 --> 01:15:41.359
But there is a coalition of the people and they

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01:15:41.399 --> 01:15:44.880
have a platform. Their platform is called ten Point Plan

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01:15:45.479 --> 01:15:48.800
and this coalition is led by a woman, Mariam Rajabi.

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01:15:49.399 --> 01:15:53.399
This ten point Plan is for Iran's future. It is

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01:15:53.560 --> 01:15:57.039
very progressive. It addresses that the ballot boxes are the

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01:15:57.119 --> 01:16:04.039
only criteria for running the country. There is a gender equality,

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01:16:04.399 --> 01:16:07.800
there is social freedom, there is a freedom of assembly,

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01:16:09.119 --> 01:16:13.560
freedom of press, there is a minorities have the rights.

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01:16:14.439 --> 01:16:17.800
They're looking for a peaceful coexistence with our neighbors and

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01:16:17.880 --> 01:16:21.640
the world, and they're looking for a non nuclear republic

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01:16:21.760 --> 01:16:28.399
in Iran. So yeah, we are looking for and democratic system.

1354
01:16:28.920 --> 01:16:33.680
So Riza Pahlavi does not have a network inside Iran.

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01:16:34.399 --> 01:16:38.720
He has not distanced himself with his father's past. You know,

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we all agree that the father was a dictator and

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that's why it was ousted. So you have to address,

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01:16:45.199 --> 01:16:48.760
you know, what was going on back then. And he

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01:16:48.920 --> 01:16:53.640
has like his position, his political views changes from week

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01:16:53.720 --> 01:16:58.439
to week sometimes, so he doesn't have a very solid

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01:16:59.640 --> 01:17:02.800
view of what he wants to do. He's in contact

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01:17:03.319 --> 01:17:06.640
with the IRGC, you know, That's what he has said

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01:17:06.640 --> 01:17:10.039
at multiple times. He's in direct contact with the IOGC.

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01:17:10.239 --> 01:17:13.439
So those are all very problematic. You know, the Ionian

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01:17:13.520 --> 01:17:15.960
people don't want to do anything to do with the

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01:17:16.720 --> 01:17:22.239
this regime. They want to overthrow it as its entirety.

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01:17:22.399 --> 01:17:24.000
You know, they don't want to deal with like this

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01:17:24.159 --> 01:17:27.119
faction or that faction, or this part of the IOGC

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01:17:27.319 --> 01:17:29.600
is good, that part is not good. No, the whole

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01:17:29.680 --> 01:17:34.039
regime must go. That's why they're like sacrificing their lives

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01:17:34.079 --> 01:17:35.680
to tell us this message.

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01:17:36.520 --> 01:17:40.319
Well, what's the truth, Omarah in terms of what's happening

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01:17:40.319 --> 01:17:43.760
in Iran right now? We hear numbers anywhere from one

1374
01:17:43.800 --> 01:17:48.560
thousand to twenty thousand people have been murdered in the

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streets of Iran. Can you give us some insight into

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01:17:53.560 --> 01:17:56.279
the real truth of what's happening in the streets of

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01:17:56.319 --> 01:18:00.079
Iran right now because everything's been blocked out. I know

1378
01:18:00.239 --> 01:18:03.640
that the government has been searching homes where people have

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01:18:03.760 --> 01:18:10.279
starlink Internet access and they are incarcerating reportedly or even

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01:18:10.359 --> 01:18:12.960
murdering people who have internet access.

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01:18:14.960 --> 01:18:19.439
That's correct. The digital blackout is what the regime is

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01:18:19.560 --> 01:18:24.279
using to cover its crimes against humanity. You know, the

1383
01:18:24.319 --> 01:18:28.760
regime has committed a genocide, crimes against humanity and using

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01:18:28.800 --> 01:18:33.359
the digital blackout to hide it, to continue to suppress

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01:18:33.399 --> 01:18:39.640
people and to try to call the uprisings. But it

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01:18:39.720 --> 01:18:44.359
has not been succeeded yet, you know, according to our sources,

1387
01:18:44.479 --> 01:18:48.199
the National Council of Resistance, the PMI sources, you know,

1388
01:18:48.239 --> 01:18:52.479
the classes are still continuing in pretty much all over

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01:18:52.520 --> 01:18:58.520
the country, and the regime is trying very hard to

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01:18:59.720 --> 01:19:03.319
like get the money. It doesn't you know, give the

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01:19:03.359 --> 01:19:09.399
bodies to people. They're trying to charge families for the body.

1392
01:19:09.520 --> 01:19:13.319
It's just it's awful. But the resistance is going on

1393
01:19:13.920 --> 01:19:18.239
and the protests, you know, the people are on the streets.

1394
01:19:18.279 --> 01:19:22.039
There is actually martial law on unofficial martial law in

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01:19:22.159 --> 01:19:26.119
place from like five or six pm. And if you

1396
01:19:26.119 --> 01:19:29.000
would think if there wasn't anything and everything was quiet,

1397
01:19:29.159 --> 01:19:30.399
then what would you happen.

1398
01:19:30.199 --> 01:19:34.720
Like with all this martial on exactly, Well, how is

1399
01:19:34.760 --> 01:19:38.399
the IRGC being paid right now? Because I understand Iran

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01:19:38.520 --> 01:19:39.840
is hard pressed for funds.

1401
01:19:41.640 --> 01:19:44.119
Yes, the regime uses all its money to first of

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01:19:44.119 --> 01:19:48.800
all pay its suppressive forces. And that's why in the

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01:19:49.119 --> 01:19:51.239
when we were in touch with our family, you know,

1404
01:19:51.279 --> 01:19:54.159
inside Iran, we were told just the price of goods

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01:19:54.199 --> 01:19:57.640
you know, have has gone up like three times just

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01:19:57.680 --> 01:20:00.640
in a matter of that past ten days. So you

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01:20:00.680 --> 01:20:03.600
would think that, you know, the regime is not gonna

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01:20:04.960 --> 01:20:08.720
spend time, spend money on people. So and that's why

1409
01:20:08.720 --> 01:20:11.840
the economy is getting worse and worse. So the regime

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is trying to you know, pay its suppressive forces first.

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01:20:14.680 --> 01:20:17.560
But I'm hoping that you know, they run out of

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01:20:17.640 --> 01:20:22.319
money and with the help of international community to put

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01:20:22.359 --> 01:20:26.760
more sanctions on it and you know, reduce put financial

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pressure on the regime. They are in a turmoil to

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even pay their own forces.

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The iogcy omer.

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How do you think the people in Iran are feeling

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about Donald Trump's support of their fight for liberty?

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01:20:42.640 --> 01:20:45.800
I you know, We've always asked for the We welcome

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01:20:45.920 --> 01:20:49.800
the pressure of the international community on the regime, and

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01:20:49.880 --> 01:20:52.000
I think that has been the ask of the Iranian

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01:20:52.039 --> 01:20:57.600
people for a long time. But if we want to

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01:20:57.640 --> 01:21:02.560
have a sustained and democratstic system, regime change. It has

1424
01:21:02.600 --> 01:21:06.840
to come from within. So that's the main part that

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you know, I want your audience to take home, because

1426
01:21:11.880 --> 01:21:18.399
there is a well organized resistance underground. There are emy

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KAY affiliated resistance units underground. So that part, you know,

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probably we haven't been it hasn't been highlighted, you know,

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01:21:26.800 --> 01:21:29.960
in the medium much. But there are these two or

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three people or even four or five, you know, people

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that are get together and we knew about these units

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for like a decade that they are active, and a

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lot of them they do activities. We see their activities.

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They've gone to present and they come out. Sometimes they

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got executed, you know, we have a few of them

1436
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that have been executed. So there there is a resistance

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inside Iran and international help with expedite the DAWNTFOLLO up

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the regime.

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So is this resistance such that the people there in

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Iran have the confidence that they could step into leadership

1441
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and keep Iran from unraveling and turning into some sort of.

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01:22:17.039 --> 01:22:22.239
Civil war Exactly? There was in just the last uprising,

1443
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this current uprising that we are, there were a few

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towns and cities that were captured by and liberated by

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these units and the city was running in order, so

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it's not going to be a chaos because the employ

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structure is there.

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Oh, we've been talking with Homera Hassami, as I said,

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was born in Iran in nineteen sixty six. At the

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age of sixteen, she graduated from high school with honors,

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but was denied acceptance to Iranian University's Zudoh or Political

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Beliefs and activism. We're grateful that she was here to

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Hey, good morning, welcome back. Good to have you with us.

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Bill Martinez here. Hey. You know this month, January is

1520
01:26:46.399 --> 01:26:50.239
Birth Defects Awareness Month, and there's so much to understand that.

1521
01:26:50.840 --> 01:26:53.239
In fact, one in every thirty three babies is born

1522
01:26:53.279 --> 01:26:56.159
with a birth defect. Each year, nearly one hundred and

1523
01:26:56.279 --> 01:26:59.319
fifty thousand babies are born in the United States with

1524
01:26:59.479 --> 01:27:02.680
birth the eects, many with conditions so rare that most

1525
01:27:02.800 --> 01:27:06.119
parents and even some clinicians have never heard of them.

1526
01:27:06.159 --> 01:27:09.800
For thousands of these babies, fetal surgery can mean the

1527
01:27:09.840 --> 01:27:13.680
difference between life threatening complications and a chance for a

1528
01:27:13.720 --> 01:27:18.399
healthy future. Of approximately five thousand fetal surgeries done worldwide

1529
01:27:18.600 --> 01:27:21.039
to treat these birth defects, a quarter of them have

1530
01:27:21.119 --> 01:27:24.079
been performed at CHOP, one of the top ranked and

1531
01:27:24.279 --> 01:27:28.319
largest children's hospitals in the US. Each week, at CHOP,

1532
01:27:28.560 --> 01:27:32.359
highly sophisticated fetal surgery teams repair birth defects in the

1533
01:27:32.359 --> 01:27:37.560
womb place fetal shunts to treat life threatening congenital conditions,

1534
01:27:37.640 --> 01:27:42.680
or perform or performed minimally invasive procedures in the mother's uterus.

1535
01:27:42.680 --> 01:27:45.399
Here to tell us more about it is doctor Scott Atzig.

1536
01:27:45.600 --> 01:27:49.439
He's a surgeon in chief of Children's Hospital of Philadelphia.

1537
01:27:49.479 --> 01:27:51.520
Doctor Atzig, welcome to the show. Good to have you

1538
01:27:51.520 --> 01:27:56.600
with us, sir, Thanks Bill, What great news here, huh?

1539
01:27:56.680 --> 01:27:57.000
I think?

1540
01:27:57.079 --> 01:27:59.800
So we're living the dream every day?

1541
01:28:00.039 --> 01:28:01.399
Oh wow?

1542
01:28:01.600 --> 01:28:03.399
I mean what must that be like for you? Like

1543
01:28:03.439 --> 01:28:06.560
you say every day? I mean this year different than

1544
01:28:06.680 --> 01:28:10.920
last year, new discoveries, advancements and all that. Sometimes you

1545
01:28:10.960 --> 01:28:12.720
feel like you got a tiger by the tail here

1546
01:28:12.760 --> 01:28:13.439
in a good way.

1547
01:28:15.800 --> 01:28:19.079
Yeah, that's probably probably a good way to describe it.

1548
01:28:19.159 --> 01:28:22.159
But we need to rein in that tiger. That tiger

1549
01:28:22.199 --> 01:28:25.199
for the benefit of mothers and unborn babies.

1550
01:28:26.159 --> 01:28:30.520
When you say rein it in specifically, what do you mean, I.

1551
01:28:30.880 --> 01:28:33.680
Mean treat So you know birthday. This is as you

1552
01:28:33.720 --> 01:28:38.239
mentioned in January's Birth Effects Awareness Month. So it's important

1553
01:28:38.279 --> 01:28:41.159
for your listeners first of all, to know that a

1554
01:28:41.199 --> 01:28:45.479
little bit more about anatomic and genetic birth effects. In

1555
01:28:45.520 --> 01:28:48.960
the US, one in thirty three babies is born with

1556
01:28:49.079 --> 01:28:53.560
a birth defect, whether they're common or costly. Billions of

1557
01:28:53.600 --> 01:28:57.960
dollars required for medical treatment. Birth effects are merciless. No

1558
01:28:58.159 --> 01:29:02.600
parent is immune or mists. Most causes of birth effects

1559
01:29:02.600 --> 01:29:06.279
are unknown, are overlooked. In my view, research I believe

1560
01:29:06.319 --> 01:29:09.199
is underfunded and they're deadly serious. Birth effects are the

1561
01:29:09.319 --> 01:29:14.880
leading cause event of mortality. So nationwide, on a yearly basis,

1562
01:29:15.000 --> 01:29:17.920
nearly one hundred and fifty thousand babies are born with

1563
01:29:18.039 --> 01:29:21.479
birth defects, and many are so rare even doctors may

1564
01:29:21.479 --> 01:29:25.520
not recognize them before birth, and too often families never

1565
01:29:25.600 --> 01:29:29.560
hear about specialized treatments available as centers like ours. I'm

1566
01:29:29.600 --> 01:29:32.600
not feeling overwhelmed and alone, but you and I are

1567
01:29:32.600 --> 01:29:33.560
going to fix that today.

1568
01:29:33.600 --> 01:29:38.079
Bill Well, I'll tell you that's a dream And I

1569
01:29:38.159 --> 01:29:41.520
love that because, like you said, the impact that this has,

1570
01:29:41.920 --> 01:29:44.199
you know, on the families, but on the children, you know,

1571
01:29:44.279 --> 01:29:47.760
a precious life with the future that could be so

1572
01:29:48.159 --> 01:29:52.600
tremendously altered because of the surgery, the fetal surgery that's

1573
01:29:52.600 --> 01:29:53.640
taking place these days.

1574
01:29:53.720 --> 01:29:53.960
Right.

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01:29:55.039 --> 01:29:57.960
Yeah, there's a saying here from sieverra Koop, who is

1576
01:29:58.000 --> 01:30:01.800
the first Sergeon in Chief and was the Surgeon General

1577
01:30:01.800 --> 01:30:04.560
of the United States and the Reagan administration that if

1578
01:30:04.600 --> 01:30:08.960
you operate on a child and cure that child, you

1579
01:30:09.039 --> 01:30:12.079
save a lifetimes. That's I think we're saving lifetimes.

1580
01:30:12.439 --> 01:30:15.600
Yeah, I mean, you think of the generational impact that's there,

1581
01:30:16.199 --> 01:30:19.359
it's just unbelievable. In fact, I was reading something here recently,

1582
01:30:19.439 --> 01:30:23.720
doctor Adsick that you know, one child represents I think

1583
01:30:23.760 --> 01:30:26.800
the connection of over I'm trying to remember the number,

1584
01:30:26.840 --> 01:30:29.800
I think was over four thousand lives. You know that

1585
01:30:29.920 --> 01:30:33.880
goes back, you know, in the most immediate generations. So, yes,

1586
01:30:33.960 --> 01:30:37.680
the impact is quite dramatic. What types of birth effects

1587
01:30:37.840 --> 01:30:39.479
can be helped with fetal surgery.

1588
01:30:40.760 --> 01:30:43.880
Well, there's a whole lesson you've you've recited that we've

1589
01:30:43.880 --> 01:30:46.760
had since nineteen ninety five when our center was founded.

1590
01:30:47.279 --> 01:30:50.359
And is now the largest such fetal therapy center in

1591
01:30:50.399 --> 01:30:53.279
the world thirty five thousand referrals and we've done close

1592
01:30:53.319 --> 01:30:55.479
to three thousand fetal surgery. So what do we do

1593
01:30:55.560 --> 01:30:59.039
fetal surgery for. Well, if we have say two thousand

1594
01:30:59.199 --> 01:31:01.600
mothers who are referred to us in a given year,

1595
01:31:01.720 --> 01:31:05.920
only about ten percent will be candidates for treatment before birth.

1596
01:31:06.039 --> 01:31:09.800
Most birth effects can be treated after birth. There's really

1597
01:31:09.840 --> 01:31:13.159
only the life threatening or devastating ones that we treat

1598
01:31:13.199 --> 01:31:15.760
before birth. And I'll give you two examples of fetal

1599
01:31:15.840 --> 01:31:21.279
surgery cases. One is for spinabifita. So what is that. Well,

1600
01:31:21.560 --> 01:31:24.920
finibifita is a birth defect where the spine and spinal

1601
01:31:24.960 --> 01:31:28.119
cord don't form properly, leaving a gap a hole in

1602
01:31:28.159 --> 01:31:32.560
the backbone that leads to before birth nerve damage due

1603
01:31:32.560 --> 01:31:37.680
to neurotoxic amniotic fluid, which is mostly fetal urine ability

1604
01:31:37.720 --> 01:31:40.800
problems in the children after birth. These are the wheelchair

1605
01:31:41.159 --> 01:31:44.840
bound kids. Hydrocephalis are a fluid on the brain that

1606
01:31:44.880 --> 01:31:47.640
causes brain damage. So I think we can now prepare

1607
01:31:47.680 --> 01:31:50.640
this before birth. The baby is still in the mother's

1608
01:31:50.640 --> 01:31:53.640
womb at twenty three to twenty five weeks gestation, when

1609
01:31:53.640 --> 01:31:56.399
the fees is about the size of my hand and

1610
01:31:56.840 --> 01:32:00.079
term is forty weeks, so you know very early, and

1611
01:32:00.159 --> 01:32:04.079
children who undergo fetal surgery are much more likely to

1612
01:32:04.119 --> 01:32:07.199
be able to eventually walk and avoid a shunt two

1613
01:32:07.319 --> 01:32:11.039
for hydrocephalus, and have a variety of other good outcomes.

1614
01:32:11.079 --> 01:32:13.560
So we did the first such fetal surgery for spina

1615
01:32:13.600 --> 01:32:16.760
bilfilo back in nineteen ninety eight, and now we're about

1616
01:32:16.800 --> 01:32:22.319
to do our five hundredth fetle surgery respondability. Second condition

1617
01:32:23.079 --> 01:32:27.239
is called twin twin transfusion syndrome, or the acronym is

1618
01:32:27.319 --> 01:32:30.479
TTTS for sure. So what is that Identical twins in

1619
01:32:30.520 --> 01:32:34.560
the uterus, Of course, separate ambniotic sacks, and fetus is

1620
01:32:34.600 --> 01:32:37.640
supposed to have its own ascent, which is like a

1621
01:32:37.720 --> 01:32:41.079
disc that connects the umbilical cord to the mother's circulation.

1622
01:32:41.720 --> 01:32:45.479
In this condition a twin twin transfusion syndrome, there's a

1623
01:32:45.840 --> 01:32:50.000
shared placenta between the twins. That's that problem is that

1624
01:32:50.039 --> 01:32:52.039
one twin gets too much blood from the mother and

1625
01:32:52.079 --> 01:32:55.840
goes into heart failure and develops an excess of ambiunic fluid,

1626
01:32:55.880 --> 01:32:58.159
and the other twin doesn't get enough blood and goes

1627
01:32:58.159 --> 01:33:02.359
in the kidney failure produce any fetal urine or ambianic fluid.

1628
01:33:02.479 --> 01:33:05.720
So the way to treat that is, which is almost

1629
01:33:05.720 --> 01:33:09.560
always a fatal condition, but a fetoscope into the uterus

1630
01:33:09.600 --> 01:33:12.119
through the maternal down on the wall and the uter wall.

1631
01:33:12.239 --> 01:33:16.159
Visualized the PERCENTA use a laser fiber total coagulator or

1632
01:33:16.680 --> 01:33:19.760
block the culporate blood vessels going from one side to

1633
01:33:19.800 --> 01:33:22.600
the other, and with this approach we can save a

1634
01:33:22.760 --> 01:33:27.079
ninety percent plus of both twins with this therapy.

1635
01:33:28.199 --> 01:33:31.760
That's incredible. I mean, what blows me away, doctor Azik

1636
01:33:31.880 --> 01:33:34.399
is the fact that you know, medicine has advanced to

1637
01:33:34.439 --> 01:33:37.720
the point that you can identify this issue. As we

1638
01:33:37.760 --> 01:33:44.079
mentioned earlier, there's many maladies here that a lot of

1639
01:33:44.079 --> 01:33:46.720
people don't even know about. And here you are, you're

1640
01:33:46.760 --> 01:33:49.560
on the cutting edge and you know a lot about

1641
01:33:49.560 --> 01:33:52.800
these you're discovering even more and you're able to find

1642
01:33:52.800 --> 01:33:55.760
this solution. Being able to do this, you know these

1643
01:33:55.840 --> 01:33:59.079
kind of surgeries in vitro and you know, change lives.

1644
01:33:59.159 --> 01:34:02.439
This is the it's just blos How how recent has

1645
01:34:02.479 --> 01:34:04.479
it been or how long has it been since you've

1646
01:34:04.520 --> 01:34:07.520
been able to deal with TTS.

1647
01:34:08.800 --> 01:34:12.680
Starting in the late nineties, and then fetal surgery responded

1648
01:34:12.920 --> 01:34:15.319
that it was nineteen nine ninety eight and some of

1649
01:34:15.359 --> 01:34:17.920
the other things for like fetal urintractive instruction. We're in

1650
01:34:17.920 --> 01:34:24.000
the early nineties, but there's been an acceleration of advances

1651
01:34:24.039 --> 01:34:28.640
and there are we have trained many others who populate

1652
01:34:28.760 --> 01:34:32.039
fetal treatment centers in North America, South America, the Far East,

1653
01:34:32.079 --> 01:34:37.239
and Europe. Our east is Poland, so that's very gratifying

1654
01:34:37.239 --> 01:34:40.000
to have that scale and that of those teaments available

1655
01:34:40.039 --> 01:34:41.920
for patients.

1656
01:34:41.479 --> 01:34:44.119
Well, and to think about that this has been what

1657
01:34:44.239 --> 01:34:48.359
three decades, you're celebrating your thirtieth anniversary and so the

1658
01:34:48.439 --> 01:34:51.840
kind of breakthroughs that we're talking about right now, Wow,

1659
01:34:52.680 --> 01:34:55.000
this is awesome. I mean, thank you for coming on

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and updating our audience about this. You know, on this month,

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January worry being Birth the Effects Awareness Month, it's clear

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that we need to be more aware.

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Yes, I agree, and you might be interested in your

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listeners might be interested in three developments that are on

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the horizon, Go ahead, yes, well as doctor William Pronto,

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one of our pediatric surgical scientists and fetal surgeon, is

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working on in utero gene editing to treat single gene

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a whole variety of things that could be diagnosed before birth,

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replacing that abnormal gene before birth. Right now, we're in

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the fetal animal work stage, but it's extremely promising and

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when this hits clinically, it will save and cure thousands

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of unborn patients that can developments. Alan Blank, one of

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our pediatric surgical scientists and fetal surgeons, is working on

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the artificial womb, a way to support clinically baby it's

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born much too soon twenty three twenty four to twenty

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five weeks gestation, with the death rates very high and

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those who survive have high complication rates. He hopes to

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use the artificial womb to support these extremely premature babies

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for three, four or five more weeks and get them

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into a range where the mortality plummets and the morbidter

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d complications also plummets. So that's maybe ready for clinical

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trial by the end of this calendar year. The third

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area is use of big data and artificial intelligence. We

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call that the Clinical Outcomes Data Archive called CODA cooda

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for short, first of its kind, database that combines real

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time medical records with carefully reviewed clinical information to improve

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neal diagnosis and care. And since twenty thirteen, CODA has

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tracked every mother in feet has treated in shop Special

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Delivery unit. Now holds more than fifteen million data points

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from over fifteen thousand patients. Clinicians make earlier, better informed

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decisions as being applied right now for all babies born

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in our Special Delivery Unit in that crucial first hour

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of life with a complex birth. The effect to get

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the best information, the best algorithms, the best outcomes, big data,

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artificial intelligence.

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Doctor Atzick, looks like we've got a lot of positive

1698
01:37:14.199 --> 01:37:18.399
news on the horizon here, and we could be having,

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01:37:18.560 --> 01:37:21.439
you know, quite a different discussion five years from now

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at least, right.

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I would count on the discussion being different next year

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when you and I speak again.

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I'll look forward to it. Doctor Scott Adseck, the surgeon

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in chief at CHOP and founder and director of CHOP

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Center for Fetal Diagnosis and Treatment. They are, by the way,

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the largest and most comprehensive fetal program in the world.

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Where else can they go for more information? Doctor Atzick.

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The website for Short's Hospital Fildel. It would be fetal surgery.

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One word fetal surgery dot chop chop dot edu. That's

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fetal surgery dot chop dot edu.

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Doctor Atzick, thanks for coming on the show. Appreciate it.

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Take care, be well right Bye bye.

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Hey, good morning, welcome back. Good to have you with us.

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Bill Martinez here with the infamous Bill de Augustino. It's okay, Bill,

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if I make you infamous, right, I mean, actually you've

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done it yourself. I'm just echoing the reality what you've

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done here. But thank you so much for all the

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great work. He's a research analyst for MRC's News Analysis

1793
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Division and a staff writer for NewsBusters. So welcome back.

1794
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Always good to have you with us.

1795
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Yeah, always great to be on Bill.

1796
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Good to see you.

1797
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Hey, let's talk Ice. I mean, clearly, all this negative reporting,

1798
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I mean it really reflects and is consistent with the

1799
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kind of reporting that has anything to do with Donald Trump, conservatism,

1800
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anything that seems to be good. The mainstream media is

1801
01:42:46.359 --> 01:42:51.000
anti everything, and they've been anti Ice without even really

1802
01:42:51.079 --> 01:42:54.720
considering the cause and effect here, and they're coming up

1803
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with their own narrative like we're surprised, right right right.

1804
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You know.

1805
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I got to be honest.

1806
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I always a little bit downtrodden when when I average

1807
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everything together and end up with like ninety two or

1808
01:43:05.279 --> 01:43:08.439
ninety three percent negative, because it feels like that's always

1809
01:43:08.560 --> 01:43:10.680
about what we end up with whenever we study the

1810
01:43:10.720 --> 01:43:14.520
broadcast networks. And I have I have coworkers that joke

1811
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that I could just be throwing darts at a board,

1812
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you know, just like spin the wheel something between ninety

1813
01:43:19.760 --> 01:43:23.159
and ninety five. And but but yeah, I'd rather have

1814
01:43:23.199 --> 01:43:25.479
the data because there's there's some pretty wild things in

1815
01:43:25.520 --> 01:43:28.439
some of the coverage. For example, we had a Nicole

1816
01:43:28.479 --> 01:43:33.039
Skanga at CBS referring to officer Jonathan Ross who shot

1817
01:43:33.039 --> 01:43:36.439
Renee Good, referring to that incident as a murder, not

1818
01:43:36.880 --> 01:43:41.319
even alleged murder, just as a murder, which was remarkable.

1819
01:43:41.960 --> 01:43:45.079
We looked through how much of the coverage actually had

1820
01:43:45.119 --> 01:43:48.439
to do with the illegal aliens themselves that ICE is,

1821
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you know, like there to deport to begin with, right,

1822
01:43:50.520 --> 01:43:53.119
that's kind of the whole reason that they're there. There

1823
01:43:53.199 --> 01:43:56.000
was it was on average about six per or sorry,

1824
01:43:56.000 --> 01:43:59.720
one point six percent of the coverage was had anything

1825
01:43:59.720 --> 01:44:02.399
to do with the crimes being committed by these illegal aliens.

1826
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So vast, vast majority of this coverage was basically just

1827
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ginning up negative sentiment and panic and fear about Ice

1828
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Ice doing this job.

1829
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Right exactly, And going back to what you said earlier,

1830
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I remember when I was in journalism school, you know,

1831
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if you failed to use alleged or you know, some

1832
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sort of non conviction term, you know, with anything, it

1833
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was a major offense. Now it's just accepted, I mean,

1834
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which is unbelievable because you know, this is not representative

1835
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of an objective press. By no means, and they continue

1836
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to lose credibility when they do things like this, and

1837
01:44:48.159 --> 01:44:50.920
they need to be called out on it because you know,

1838
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I don't know necessarily if it if it breaks the law,

1839
01:44:54.039 --> 01:44:58.000
but it definitely breaks the principles of professional journalism. And

1840
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where's professional journalism? Where are you know, the voices of

1841
01:45:03.880 --> 01:45:07.000
professional journalism that are all being compromised and they're all

1842
01:45:07.000 --> 01:45:09.039
being put in the same bucket. I would not want

1843
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to be a journalist frankly right now, because I'd have

1844
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to be associated with stuff like this. And this is

1845
01:45:14.199 --> 01:45:17.119
not just an exception, right, I mean, this seems to

1846
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be more common than exceptional.

1847
01:45:20.680 --> 01:45:21.600
Oh, it absolutely is.

1848
01:45:21.720 --> 01:45:23.439
And I mean the sad thing is, even if you

1849
01:45:23.479 --> 01:45:25.199
did want to be a journalist right now, you probably

1850
01:45:25.199 --> 01:45:27.039
wouldn't be able to. I mean certainly not at any

1851
01:45:27.159 --> 01:45:30.520
one of these networks because a lot of a lot

1852
01:45:30.560 --> 01:45:32.880
of the bias in all of the reporting, a lot

1853
01:45:32.880 --> 01:45:36.880
of the narrative crafting happens at the hiring phase, right.

1854
01:45:36.920 --> 01:45:39.720
I mean I don't think that that you know, for example,

1855
01:45:39.720 --> 01:45:42.760
at ABC, that the newsroom is having these big meetings

1856
01:45:43.000 --> 01:45:46.039
where they're where they're saying every night, you know, well,

1857
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make sure that the report makes ICE look bad, right, Like,

1858
01:45:49.000 --> 01:45:51.680
nobody at ABC or NBC or CBS needs to be

1859
01:45:51.760 --> 01:45:56.600
told that. Well, that's because they were hired for that purpose, right,

1860
01:45:56.600 --> 01:45:58.800
They were hired for the purpose of pushing this left

1861
01:45:58.800 --> 01:46:01.880
wing agenda, and so they all just kind of automatically

1862
01:46:01.920 --> 01:46:03.560
do it, right, It's like a set it and forget

1863
01:46:03.560 --> 01:46:04.359
it sort of model.

1864
01:46:05.319 --> 01:46:08.520
Well, they're hired from a pool of universities. I mean,

1865
01:46:08.520 --> 01:46:10.960
if you look at them, I think there's nineteen universities

1866
01:46:11.159 --> 01:46:15.840
that are consistently liberal, and so this is their dogma.

1867
01:46:16.039 --> 01:46:19.720
Yeah, yeah, no, exactly exactly, and it's it kind of

1868
01:46:20.439 --> 01:46:23.680
it highlights what sort of challenges anybody who tries to

1869
01:46:23.680 --> 01:46:26.439
reform one of these networks, like for example, Barry Weiss

1870
01:46:26.960 --> 01:46:29.720
is going to face, because I mean, if you're going

1871
01:46:29.800 --> 01:46:31.880
to fire all of the bad apples, then you're basically

1872
01:46:31.880 --> 01:46:33.920
just going to be left with an empty newsroom and

1873
01:46:34.079 --> 01:46:37.760
a brand name, right, Like it really is that bad.

1874
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I mean you can count the number of real professional

1875
01:46:41.039 --> 01:46:44.439
journalists on any of these networks on one hand. And

1876
01:46:44.840 --> 01:46:47.199
so that's really the issue that we run up against,

1877
01:46:47.239 --> 01:46:51.279
and that's how we consistently see above ninety percent negative

1878
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on anything associated with the Trump administration with the Republican

1879
01:46:54.960 --> 01:46:58.239
Party or conservatism writ large, because these people are in

1880
01:46:58.319 --> 01:47:01.680
journalism who smear all of those things to the best

1881
01:47:01.680 --> 01:47:02.359
of their ability.

1882
01:47:03.520 --> 01:47:06.800
Well, they're so you know, they're so closed minded, and

1883
01:47:06.840 --> 01:47:10.279
I will say that, I mean, they're so ideologically fixed

1884
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that they legitimately built. They can't see it any other way.

1885
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I mean, I hear some of these politicians and I'm going,

1886
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you know, help me understand your viewpoint, and boy, they're

1887
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just you know, they're sold out one hundred percent. I

1888
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watch Eric Swalwell the other day talk and I'm thinking, Mike,

1889
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how can you reason with somebody who is unreasonable? But

1890
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the thing is he probably looks at me and thinks

1891
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the same thing. You know.

1892
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Well, I mean the thing about politicians like Eric Swalwell

1893
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is they are so shameless in their pushing of the

1894
01:47:43.720 --> 01:47:47.439
party line that I don't know, And frankly, I think

1895
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it's rather immaterial whether or not they actually believe even

1896
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like a quarter of the things that they say. Right,

1897
01:47:54.199 --> 01:47:57.039
it feels like it's all tactical. It is so it

1898
01:47:57.119 --> 01:47:59.960
is so cynical, and everything is in such bad faith

1899
01:48:00.439 --> 01:48:03.760
that there's there's basically no discussion to be had because

1900
01:48:03.800 --> 01:48:05.600
if you push back on any one of the points

1901
01:48:05.600 --> 01:48:08.319
that that these people make, you're basically just going to

1902
01:48:08.319 --> 01:48:12.119
get a cavalcade of talking points right of thought, of thought,

1903
01:48:12.199 --> 01:48:16.560
terminating cliches, and so there's there's almost no point to

1904
01:48:16.560 --> 01:48:19.800
have a debate anymore. It's exhausting. But to see the

1905
01:48:19.880 --> 01:48:22.680
media doing much of the same thing, I mean, that's

1906
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there's something particularly galling about that, right.

1907
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Because yeah, politicians, go ahead. I'm sorry, Well, no, that's fine.

1908
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It's it's a politician's progative to be as dishonest as

1909
01:48:34.039 --> 01:48:36.680
he wants to, right, to try to get elected, to

1910
01:48:36.680 --> 01:48:38.760
toe the party line. It's not a good thing, but

1911
01:48:38.800 --> 01:48:41.439
it's something that I think most Americans have come to expect.

1912
01:48:41.560 --> 01:48:45.399
But to see that same behavior from journalists is significantly

1913
01:48:45.399 --> 01:48:47.960
more disturbing, because these are the people who go out

1914
01:48:48.000 --> 01:48:50.479
every day and claim that they are just bringing you

1915
01:48:50.520 --> 01:48:53.159
the objective truth, right, that they're being they're just being honest.

1916
01:48:54.239 --> 01:48:58.520
Well, these are the same people that myself and other

1917
01:48:58.560 --> 01:49:01.399
people who have served the country for freedom of the

1918
01:49:01.439 --> 01:49:07.199
press and our constitutional freedoms, and over a million have

1919
01:49:07.359 --> 01:49:11.800
given up their lives for. This is how we're being misrepresented.

1920
01:49:12.640 --> 01:49:17.279
And I don't think the media has the capacity or

1921
01:49:17.319 --> 01:49:21.840
the conscience and consideration of that investment that was made

1922
01:49:21.880 --> 01:49:26.560
on their behalf to deliver, you know, fair minded journalism

1923
01:49:26.640 --> 01:49:29.560
for the good of all concerned, and that means everybody,

1924
01:49:29.560 --> 01:49:33.840
whether you're Republican, Democrat, independent, you know, can you measure

1925
01:49:34.000 --> 01:49:37.560
up and meet that standard? And right now, in my

1926
01:49:37.720 --> 01:49:42.199
humble opinion, journalism is failing miserably at the cost of

1927
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all of us.

1928
01:49:43.800 --> 01:49:46.479
Right, yeah, no, I think that's that's basically a spot

1929
01:49:46.520 --> 01:49:51.159
on assessment. The entire field has been perverted into a

1930
01:49:51.319 --> 01:49:54.880
means of political activism just by another name. And whenever

1931
01:49:54.960 --> 01:49:57.720
there's there's some new variety of journalism that springs up,

1932
01:49:57.760 --> 01:50:01.279
it immediately gets corrupted in the same fact like fact

1933
01:50:01.359 --> 01:50:03.680
checking for example. I mean, what is fact checking these

1934
01:50:03.760 --> 01:50:08.399
days except just basically opinion journalism with a fancy title, right,

1935
01:50:08.439 --> 01:50:11.680
I mean, it's it's a fact checker essentially just argues

1936
01:50:11.760 --> 01:50:14.000
with politicians that they dislike and they say, oh, well

1937
01:50:14.000 --> 01:50:16.439
that's false because you didn't consider my point of view,

1938
01:50:16.439 --> 01:50:17.439
which is this, this, and this.

1939
01:50:17.600 --> 01:50:17.720
Right.

1940
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That's not a fact check. You're you're debating somebody, and

1941
01:50:20.439 --> 01:50:22.720
then you're just slapping a false label on it.

1942
01:50:22.800 --> 01:50:25.239
Right, all in the name of fact checking, in the

1943
01:50:25.319 --> 01:50:29.039
name of fact, who's fact you know, kind of deal? Right, No,

1944
01:50:29.159 --> 01:50:31.600
it's not a fact. It's an opinion, you know, any

1945
01:50:31.680 --> 01:50:35.479
more than you know Barack Obama announcing, you know, in

1946
01:50:35.520 --> 01:50:39.399
talking about science, he goes, it's a fact. Well I'm sorry.

1947
01:50:39.399 --> 01:50:41.880
In scientific terms, nothing is a fact. It's either a

1948
01:50:42.000 --> 01:50:45.319
law or it's a theory. It's not a fact.

1949
01:50:45.079 --> 01:50:49.199
Right, yeah, no, exactly exactly. And I mean, look, there

1950
01:50:49.279 --> 01:50:52.760
is like, there is such a thing as ontological truth.

1951
01:50:52.920 --> 01:50:56.920
But to be so vain, so so conceited as to

1952
01:50:56.960 --> 01:51:01.159
think that you consistently wield ontological truth. You you can

1953
01:51:01.199 --> 01:51:04.640
see through the veil, right, you, you alone are able

1954
01:51:04.680 --> 01:51:09.039
to determine what reality is is it's so arrogant, right,

1955
01:51:09.079 --> 01:51:11.399
I mean we see there there are there are newsrooms

1956
01:51:11.399 --> 01:51:15.319
now that have misinformation experts. I mean, what do you

1957
01:51:15.359 --> 01:51:18.680
have is your degree in fact? Is your degree in information?

1958
01:51:18.920 --> 01:51:22.000
Like it's it's it's laughable to think about, right. I mean,

1959
01:51:22.039 --> 01:51:25.399
if you if you want somebody to disprove claim by someone,

1960
01:51:25.439 --> 01:51:28.199
bring in somebody who's an expert in the in whatever

1961
01:51:28.239 --> 01:51:31.760
topic that claim pertained to. Right, You can't have a

1962
01:51:31.920 --> 01:51:36.520
generalist information expert. I mean, it's it's it's ridiculous the

1963
01:51:36.560 --> 01:51:37.680
second you start thinking.

1964
01:51:37.479 --> 01:51:39.960
About it, now it really is. And plus on top

1965
01:51:40.000 --> 01:51:42.479
of that, to hear you lay this sound bill, I mean,

1966
01:51:42.520 --> 01:51:45.560
would you want to be the ontological expert? I mean

1967
01:51:45.600 --> 01:51:48.000
basically you're saying you're god.

1968
01:51:47.600 --> 01:51:50.279
Right, that's that is, That is essentially what they're saying. Yeah,

1969
01:51:50.279 --> 01:51:53.479
they're declaring, we alone have the power to determine what

1970
01:51:53.520 --> 01:51:56.560
the truth is. That's that's kind of the whole grift

1971
01:51:56.640 --> 01:52:00.199
of fact checking is it's it's bestowing yourself with this

1972
01:52:00.319 --> 01:52:04.640
unearned authority to decide what reality is for anybody who

1973
01:52:04.680 --> 01:52:08.680
will listen. And that is I mean that's so it's

1974
01:52:08.680 --> 01:52:11.279
incredibly myopic, but it's also it's very dystopian.

1975
01:52:11.880 --> 01:52:14.760
Well, all that the the damage the major networks are

1976
01:52:14.800 --> 01:52:19.279
doing in prolonging UH this attack on ice and UH

1977
01:52:19.479 --> 01:52:23.319
clearly even JD. Vance pointed out, you know, with fact

1978
01:52:24.119 --> 01:52:29.319
of reality that including blue cities where there was cooperation,

1979
01:52:29.840 --> 01:52:32.319
you don't you don't have this kind of craziness. But

1980
01:52:33.039 --> 01:52:36.760
it's like Minneapolis needs therapy. I mean, they are they're

1981
01:52:36.880 --> 01:52:40.800
so ideologically messed up that how do you bring them

1982
01:52:40.880 --> 01:52:44.119
back to be a part of UH I don't know

1983
01:52:44.239 --> 01:52:46.920
humanity and civil and civility.

1984
01:52:48.439 --> 01:52:53.439
I mean this, this ideology is so totalistically corrupting that

1985
01:52:53.520 --> 01:52:55.800
for a lot of these people, I don't know what

1986
01:52:55.840 --> 01:52:59.319
the answer is. You You were getting at something though,

1987
01:52:59.359 --> 01:53:01.680
that I think is really important, and it's something that

1988
01:53:01.760 --> 01:53:05.119
the broadcast networks in our study, basically, it's a question

1989
01:53:05.159 --> 01:53:08.239
that they never posed or attempted to answer, which is

1990
01:53:08.680 --> 01:53:11.840
why Minneapolis, Why why do we see this happening here

1991
01:53:12.119 --> 01:53:15.720
of all places this time? And the reason is simply

1992
01:53:15.760 --> 01:53:19.880
because ICE went into Minneapolis to enforce the law, and

1993
01:53:20.279 --> 01:53:23.520
so well, why did that lead to this? Because Minneapolis

1994
01:53:23.560 --> 01:53:27.279
is a sanctuary city, right, because Minnesota is a sanctuary state.

1995
01:53:28.119 --> 01:53:32.279
Is that is the sole reason that everything else kind

1996
01:53:32.319 --> 01:53:35.840
of springs from in this story. It's because the police

1997
01:53:35.880 --> 01:53:39.079
are not apprehending illegal aliens and then handing them peaceably

1998
01:53:39.199 --> 01:53:41.800
over to ICE. They're not allowed to work with ICE,

1999
01:53:41.880 --> 01:53:43.880
and so ICE has to go out and do these

2000
01:53:43.920 --> 01:53:48.199
operations themselves. And that's what this look looks like, right.

2001
01:53:48.279 --> 01:53:52.199
It's it's it's not preventing deportations from happening, which is

2002
01:53:52.279 --> 01:53:54.920
I guess the ostensible goal of sanctuary cities, which is

2003
01:53:54.920 --> 01:53:58.000
insane by the way. I mean, that's that's basically just

2004
01:53:58.199 --> 01:54:00.680
lawlessness codified into policy.

2005
01:54:01.000 --> 01:54:03.680
But that's what that's what I've That's what I'm observing,

2006
01:54:03.760 --> 01:54:07.840
is that the reason is it's incompatible with the Constitution.

2007
01:54:08.119 --> 01:54:11.800
It is lawless on its face. So now you bring

2008
01:54:11.920 --> 01:54:14.840
law into a lawless society, what do you think is

2009
01:54:14.880 --> 01:54:15.520
going to happen?

2010
01:54:16.960 --> 01:54:17.159
Right?

2011
01:54:17.560 --> 01:54:18.279
And it's it's not.

2012
01:54:18.520 --> 01:54:21.600
You're not preventing the border enforcement from happening. You're just

2013
01:54:21.680 --> 01:54:24.920
making it more difficult and more dangerous for everybody involved.

2014
01:54:25.319 --> 01:54:28.600
And so at a certain point, the keen observer has

2015
01:54:28.640 --> 01:54:30.840
to ask the question, well, what is the point of

2016
01:54:30.880 --> 01:54:33.239
all of this? And part of it kind of feels

2017
01:54:33.279 --> 01:54:37.079
like forcing this confrontation is the point, right. I think

2018
01:54:37.119 --> 01:54:39.520
that a lot of the Democrats basically calculated, well, this

2019
01:54:39.560 --> 01:54:42.359
will be an optics win for us, and maybe we

2020
01:54:42.399 --> 01:54:47.600
will be able to essentially Heckler's veto or or mass

2021
01:54:47.680 --> 01:54:52.079
opinion nullify immigration law by just putting up a huge

2022
01:54:52.119 --> 01:54:55.279
fight against any federal agent that attempts to enforce the law.

2023
01:54:56.039 --> 01:54:59.359
They seem to have miscalculated that, because the administration has

2024
01:54:59.399 --> 01:55:04.520
responded pretty aggressively and surged more federal agents into Minneapolis.

2025
01:55:05.680 --> 01:55:08.600
But again, the entire mess on their hands right now

2026
01:55:08.880 --> 01:55:12.279
is as a result of their own deliberate failure to cooperate.

2027
01:55:13.079 --> 01:55:17.600
Well, it's back to the lesson you learned in kindergarten

2028
01:55:17.840 --> 01:55:21.640
in the sandbox of life, and that is when you're bullied,

2029
01:55:21.800 --> 01:55:24.479
you got a bully back. If you don't, you're owned.

2030
01:55:24.880 --> 01:55:27.640
And this is what it comes down to. I mean, Minnesota,

2031
01:55:27.920 --> 01:55:32.840
Minneapolis are bullying ice officers and they're bullying the rule

2032
01:55:32.880 --> 01:55:37.880
of law. So give them what they expect, don't disappoint them.

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I say, we got to leave it there. Bill Dea Huxatino,

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thank you, as always Bill as the research channalyst staff

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writer for NewsBusters. Thank you have a great day.

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