Jan. 23, 2026
The Bill Martinez Show 01 23 26
The Bill Martinez Show 01 23 26
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Are you ready, Yeah, Okay, let's do it.
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Ill Martinas Live a program about current events, our culture,
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our values, our politics, and our future.
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And now Bill Martinez, Hey, good morning America. Good to
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have you with us. Six minutes after top of the hour,
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right now, Michae O'Neil from Landmark Legal joins us. Now, Hey, Michael,
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good morning.
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Morning, Bill. Good to be with you.
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Hey, let's to catch up on of course, people are
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still waiting on the decision regarding terrorists from SCOTUS. I
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just my gut tells me, as I was saying to
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you just a moment ago, that this is a tough
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decision for them because of what hangs in the balance here.
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Trump is presenting his case to Davos even as you
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and I are talking right now. I think it's pretty
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compelling what he's laying out for them, that America has
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done so much for Europe, for NATO, and we've gotten
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little in return. And this is a small ask compared
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to all that you know America has done and so
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and and the thing is is all a lot of
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what's happened economically has been set up by tariffs, including
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drug pricing and other negotiations negotiations for peace. All that
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has been affected because of the president's ability to exercise,
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you know, tariffs on these nations to get them to behave.
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You know, this may it's certainly practically speaking, it's certainly
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a very powerful tool in the president's arsenal to use.
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I mean, it's it allows him a lot of diplomatic
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leeway in negotiating relationship relationships with or negotiating issues with
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our foreign partners or adversaries, whomever you want to talk about.
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And I think that's probably from a legal perspective, is
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one of the stronger arguments that support his uh that
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the support the argument that he has the authority under
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this particular provision of the law to do what he's doing.
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And keep in mind, generally speaking, a couple of things
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is the Supreme Court, particularly this iteration of the Supreme Court,
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is loath to involve itself in foreign policy. You know,
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traditional powers of the executive and what is what is
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one of the biggest power of the executive of the
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president has is of course, is to deal with foreign governments, right,
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is to unify He's the representative of the United States
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when negotiating with other countries and conducting diplomatic relationships waging war.
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So we know when the president is under is embarking
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in these negotiations and foreign relations, he's operating under the
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strongest of his constitutional authority. And I think that that
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at oral arguments. I think that the Solicitor General repeatedly
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discussed that, and so the court is probably aware of this.
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And you see, so that's that's legally. Then you see
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the practical issues that have been presented with this. Over
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the better part of a year now, the president has
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utilized this power to negotiate. I don't know what the
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number is, but I mean, I think it's got to
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be in the dozens, right, I mean, it's a significant
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number of new trade deals are with foreign both countries
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that are our allies, you know, quote unquote allies and
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adversaries or potential adversaries. So the horses out of the barn,
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hundreds of billions of dollars have come into the US treasury,
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a lot of a lot of new trade deals have
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been executed. There's been a lot of reliance on it
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with businesses.
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Uh.
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You know, people who who argue against tariffs have will
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argue that that it's cost them domestic companies have argued
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that it will have cost them millions of dollars, so
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they they'll argue that they have a claim and they
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that these were the impropriety of the levee. So just
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a lot of moving parts with this. But my my
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general feel, and again it's it's really hard to discern
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what's going on. But the fact that every week goes by,
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now that the court hasn't ruled on this, you have
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to conclude or you have you can conclude that there's
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a lot going on behind the scenes that the court
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isn't able to speak with one voice. Right, if it
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was an easy if it was an easy opinion, if
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it was a nine to zero one or an eighty
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one opinion, we would have already heard about it. Right,
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If there was an easy answer out there, the court
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would have already given it to us. So, uh, you know,
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I some people, some people conclude that every week that
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goes by increases the likelihood that they're they're going to
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rule in Donald Trump, in the president's favor in this.
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I'm not quite there yet, but I certainly think that
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I will conclude that it's a it's a complicated issue.
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You're you're talking probably you know, you don't have unanimity
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between the justices. I don't think now you're ever going
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to have unanimity in with the justices because of the
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delay here. Perhaps the Chief Justice is delaying this and
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trying to cobble together as strong an opinion one way
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or the other so that the Court can speak with
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one voice to the extent that it does.
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I think it's a challenge for the Court because we're
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talking business here, and what does the court know about business?
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I mean, traditionally, what is the country. There's not been
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a president like Donald Trump who has said, look at
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I'm going to leverage the assets of America to our
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benefit as opposed to just writing checks and being an
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ATM for the you know, for the European nations. Yeah,
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you know, and uh, you know. So now you've got
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this dynamic coming into place at play. And then uh,
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and then you get the argument from from Congress and
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the legislature saying, wait a minute, that's our job. Well
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why have you been doing it?
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I know that's that's that's a really fantastic point. And
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and uh, the fact that you know, the Supreme Court
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could put its hands up and say, look, Congress has
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the power to limit the president. We've given them weeks,
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months or to to do this to to profit and
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it's Congress's job here. This is a political issue. We're
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going to stay out of it. That's that's another good
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argument for for the president simply saying, but Congress, if
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Congress wanted to stop this, it could and it hasn't.
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So we're not going to do this because it's an
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issue for the it's it's an issue for Congress to
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deal with. That's certainly a very good point. I am
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on the other side, also, I wish I wish Congress
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had just, you know, open the door, you shut the
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door on the legal issue and simply said, yep, we're
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sending the president's power to do this in this context.
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But exactly they could. They could have just said exactly
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for that context. So it doesn't give him unlimited forever power.
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But in these particular cases, it says, Okay, we we
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endorse and support the president's authority to do this.
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Yeah, and this is again I don't think there's a
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I don't know if it's a necessary supermajority, but I
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mean the House having he hasn't even proposed legislation or
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past legislation by a majority. Uh, I mean, you got
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to think that there's a number of Republicans. Enough Republicans
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on board. Obviously, the Democrats are on board with thinking
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he doesn't have this, and they just don't want to
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deal with it, so they're just gonna put there.
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Well, they don't want Trump to have another victory. Trump's
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had too many wins for their soul. It is driving
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them nuts. I mean, their brains are exploding. Gray matter
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is all over the Beltway. You know that belongs to
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the Democrats. It's going to be quite a cleanup. But
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that's just who they are right now. Sadly as opposed
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to here, we have an opportunity to really solidify the
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country's position in the world, secure our national security, financially,
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realize this golden age that I believe is right on
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the horizon. That look everything, I mean, the stock market,
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drug prices, you know, getting a handle on this illegal immigration,
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holding these states into account for you know, the proper
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spending of federal funds. All this stuff looks very positive.
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Michael, absolutely, you know, and we'll see whether the systems
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slow it down. We're seeing what's happened in Minnesota where
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there's I think every day goes by, we're seeing more
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and more there's fraud, rampant fraud.
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Uh.
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Obviously, I mean I'll go so far as you use
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this conspiracy to obstruct the enforcement of ice, conspiracy by
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state officials, local officials to to obstruct Uh.
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I think it's beyond conspiratorial. I mean doing it right.
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Yeah.
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Well, when I say conspiracy, I'm saying criminal conspiracy with
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the with all the attributes of a criminal charges. So
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I mean criminal conspiracy which would of course open you
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to prosecution for those for those cases which I you know,
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conspiracy generally, but conspiracy specifically with regards to violations of
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federal criminal statutes. So I think that, uh, yeah, there's
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a lot. It's not going to be easy. No nobody
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ever said that this was fixing our country was ever
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going to be easy because of the problems. I think that,
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you know, doing the common sense thing is it sets
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us on the path. And that's what we've done the
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past year. We've started to do the common sense things.
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But of course now you're having these institutional blocks to it,
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and of course those are challenges to overcome, slowly but surely.
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Regarding just real quick to step. I think we'll I'll.
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Tell what, I'll tell what. Let's go to break, and
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