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Well, good afternoon, glad you could join us. I'm Bill
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Martinez and we're going to talk about the legacy of
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Charles Charles James Kirk. You know, my wife pointed out
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that James Kirk must have been his parents must have
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been Star Trek fans. I don't know that for a fact,
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but you know, it just kind of just sticks out
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that his middle name was James, and of course hurt,
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you know, why not. But anyway, a lot to discuss
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about Charlie. It's it's kind of hard to imagine here's
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a fellow citizen who loved this country and wanted the
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best for each of us to be treated in the
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manner which he's been treated. Yes, I get greatly honored,
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not only here in the United States but around the world,
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which just says something about this thirty one year old,
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I guess, iconic generational figure. Many have thought that. In fact,
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my good friend Dennis Brager, and I'm going to read
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an email from him in just a moment, said that
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Charlie was probably on a trajectory to become a potential
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presidential candidate down the road. And I think Dennis is
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spot on with that, you know, with that consideration, because
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he was just he was just so sharp. And I
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know the kids, you know where he went to, you know,
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in these universities, some of the kids would make fun
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of him because he didn't have a degree. And then
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he challenged the head and you know, asked him, you know,
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a Socratic question, you know, well, how's this, how's this
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working out for you? Is your future look bright? Do
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you look like you're going to be very successful with
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your degree? You know, because there's lots of other people
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ahead of you right now that aren't doing too well
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with degrees. And Charlie, when he went to a school
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and went to college, I think he maybe a semester
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maybe somewhere, maybe most was the year. I think anyway,
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he realized that it just didn't fit, it wasn't for him.
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And so has he declared himself he's he's self taught
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and no question about it that he is uber intellectual.
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He has the IQ and he was also just of
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an incredible inquiring mind. Bill Fetterer another dear friend. In fact,
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I'm doing a show tomorrow with Bill on our Daily
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Show at Bill Martinez Show dot com. You can tune
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in for that because he'll be on for the whole hour.
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We're going to talk about constitution and Constitution Day you
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know this week, by the way, in case you didn't
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know or forgot, a critical day I believe in our
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nation's history is to understand the Constitution. When there's so
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many people that don't, you know, even with the people,
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there's a result we're left ignorant and we're left in
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a position to be manipulated because we don't know when
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we fail to understand the dynamics of the Constitution how
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to protect us now, to protect one another. And so anyway,
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we're going to talk about that, but more specifically, we're
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going to spend some time in talking about Charlie Kirk.
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Bill and Charlie were very very close, communicated on a
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weekly basis, emails back and forth, and Bill, you know,
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shares those emails with us, and you know, so needless
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to say, there's a good portion of the country that
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is still in shock and processing you know what happened.
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You know, how how could this happen? You know? And
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I can tell you in many ways, Charlie and I
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were very much aligned. You know, our love for country,
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I love for the Constitution, but more importantly is our
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love for Jesus Christ and our faith. And I think
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this is one of the things that a lot of
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people didn't quite understand about Charlie. What what drove him
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and what made him so effective, And it started with
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his heart. He had a pure heart, and his heart
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was you know, toward people looking at them like the
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Bible says, made in the image of God. When you
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consider another person that your eye to eye with and
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having a conversation that they're made in the image of God.
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You know, there's no class structure here. You know, as
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one theologian said, I have never as a result of that,
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he says, I've never met a mere mortal, and I
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can tell you I tried to live my life that way.
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I've tried to live my life in such a way
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that I didn't look at somebody in a less than position.
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And I don't know, maybe because where I was raised,
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and you know, the family that I came from. You
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know my parents, he had actually their grandparents had immigrated
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to the United States, and my dad served in World
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War Two. He was with Patent and the European Theater
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at the Battle of the Bulge. He was a medic.
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Three of his sons, including myself and my two other brothers,
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served in the military during the Vietnam War. My number
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two brother was more in the in the heat of it.
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He was in combat. My oldest brother was a staff sergeant.
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I think about as closely got to it was the
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Nang And then I ended up. You know, I'd have
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been the third brother. It's like saving Private Ryan right
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and his things would work out. Because of my broadcasting career,
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I ended up doing Good Morning Camp Pendleton. You may
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have heard me relate that story before, so I tell people, yeah,
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I did Good Morning Camp Pendleton. Not quite as funny
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as Robin Williams, and certainly if I'd have been anywhere
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close to funny as funny as Robin Williams. I'd had
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been kicked out of the Marine Corps. But you know,
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I was blessed to serve the country, and it was
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my honor to do that, as it is for anybody
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that serves our country in the military. It's an absolute honor.
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And and we're grateful. We're grateful that people will say, hey,
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thank you for your service, and it's very very kind
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and respectful, uh to honor and uh and I you know,
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for me, I mean, you know, I I honor you know,
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our fellow veterans, especially those that fought in combat. And
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thank god, it's such a small percentage, but nonetheless, uh,
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you know, we lost some uh that were kiad Uh,
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some that are still a live today, but you know
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carry the wounds of Vietnam as they do in other
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wars that have happened since then. And so anyway, that's
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that's all part of my heart. But getting back to
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Charlie's position, and this is something that people, you know,
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unless you're unless you're a faith it may you may
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not understand the context and why Charlie was so humble
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and uh. And also why you know, people were so
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quick to kind of put words in his mouth and
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to assign assigned to him some sort of ideology that was,
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you know, first from the truth in my in my
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humble opinion. I mean, you may have disagreed with him,
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and that's okay. I think that that's important. It's the
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first amendment, right, I mean, of all amendments. I mean,
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why would that be the first amendment? You know, our
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founding fathers realized that freedom of speech and was so
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critical to the advancement of Western civilization that we must
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be open to have conversation. If we're canceling one another,
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then you know, you may have heard me say this before,
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is we render ourselves stupid. It's it's very uneducated, you know,
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to to do that, to cancel somebody, not listen to them.
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As my father used to say, you know, you need
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to listen to the other side because you don't know
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what part of the puzzle that you're missing that could
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fit and just makes sense all of a sudden, you know,
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light bulbs go on. You know what I'm talking about,
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and it makes sense and and maybe and and the
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deal is, I got to tell you I have to
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left because I still hear my father telling me this,
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and you know that, hey, just slow down, be patient,
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listen to what the person is saying. And you'd also say,
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listen to their heart. And because you can get a
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lot from listening to another person's heart. You can you
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can hear their pain, you can feel their pain and
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uh and and that stuff that maybe you know, agitating
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you and annoying you. It's it's out of their pain.
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But if we think, you know, that it's against us
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and it's our responsibility, which it isn't. You know, you're
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not there, you're not the you're not the cause of it.
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You're just kind of associated with it because you happen
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to take a position that right now they perceive, you know,
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is real pain for them. And all that's fine. But
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you know, if if you talk it out, and I
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can say in those cases when I've been able to
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be successful in doing that, you sense the temperature goes down,
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there's calm uh, there's an understanding between both sides that
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elevates the conversation and achieves a better solution. And that's
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why we've maintained on this show that our goal is
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not about parties, not about the Democrat Party or Republican Party.
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I think this is one of the worst things that
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our country. And we were warned, our founding fathers warned us,
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and George Washington is that party is going to be
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the end of us soon as we have parties and
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it's us against them, it's the red shirts against the
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blue shirts, or you know, kind of deal and you're
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at each other's throats and it's all a competitive deal,
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and you lose sight of what's most important. What's most
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important is this great American idea that is right there
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in the Declaration of Independence in our constitution, that lays
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out the rules of play in which all of us
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can be successful and attain things that are beyond our imagination.
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I mean, this is why people want to come to
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this country because of the opportunity that is here and
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that needs to be protected. And is saying in course
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thing is that we protect that in such a way
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so that it's not an orchestrated equity, because as soon
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as you do that, then you you've screwed everything up
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because it's no longer equitable. You want, you want to
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have a fair shot at it, and that's that's the
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critical thing. And you know, Charlie, believe in that. I
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believe in that. I believe that that's what makes things
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things fair, is that you have a fair shot that
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to exercise the giftings and talents that God has blessed
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you with, because I think one of the biggest frustrating
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things is for you to be having a talent and
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it'll wake you up in the middle of the night
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and frustrate the Holy what have you? Autio. Or if
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you're working for another organization and you're what I characterize
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a round peg in a square hole, well, those those
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friction points, because those where you're not fitting and you
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get these friction points going on, that just agitates you
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to no end and you're not a fun employee to
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work with, right and uh and on many levels, you know,
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because when you go and work for an organization, not
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only do you want this organization as a seed, but
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you want those around you to succeed and to be elevated.
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And if you're working together, then you can elevate one
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another and be able to do a lot more together
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than you can apart. And I've been blessed in several
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occasions in my life to work with organizations and be
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able to exercise that philosophy. And I can tell you
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when we did that, we were extremely successful. Everybody on
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the team was blessed. They you know, surpassed their economic
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goals and their earning goals and that It was a
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lot of lot of fun. But for me, the biggest
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fun for me was to watch them grow and watch
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them accept one another, to really be a team as
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diverse as it was. You know, we had a good
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mix of you know, men and women from you know
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races and you know, different races and that, and you know,
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here's here, here I am, you know, blessed to lead
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the team, and it was such an honor. But our
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attitude was that, look at we're going to respect one another.
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We were going to come alongside one another and do
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what we could to help one another. And everybody won
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that way. So again, my philosophy is like Charlie's was,
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was that it was you know, for the good of
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all concern. And what made it good was because it
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started with the word of God. You know, words matter,
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and these I say to these people, and this isn't
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you know the first time we've talked about this, because
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I've been warning, been warning you for the last couple
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of years, the rhetoric was getting amped up in such
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a way that somebody was going to get hurt. And
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you cannot tell me that the assassination of you know,
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Charlie Kirk was just coincidental. They had nothing to do
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with the sentiment and the words that were put out there,
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you know, people calling him a fascist, like, how do
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you how do you come up with that? I mean,
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I've watched a lot Charlie Kirk's videos and there's not
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any one time that I could come around and come
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away from and say, oh, you know, he's overstepped. It's
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he's a fascist. You know. But we use these terms
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so loosely, and we assign them to our opponents in