Dec. 8, 2025

The Bill Martinez Show 12 08 25

The Bill Martinez Show 12 08 25
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The Bill Martinez Show 12 08 25
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, Okay, let's do it.

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Ill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Well, good morning America. Six minutes after the top of

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the r Right now, I'm Bill Martinez. Is doctor John Lott. Hey, John,

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how are you doing great?

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Are you so?

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Hey?

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I'm doing terrific. John, of course, is president of the

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Crime Prevention Research Center, author of Gun Control miss This

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story that you sent me, John, I think is quite interesting.

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Here.

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You've got an employee who has to make a choice

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between her life or her job.

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Right, yeah, No, you have this twenty five year old

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woman who is working the night shift at a seven

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to eleven in Oklahoma City and man comes, customer comes in,

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gives her one hundred dollars bill. It's obvious to her

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that it's a counterfeit bill, so she refused to accept it.

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He starts throwing things at her and says that he's

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going to cut off her head. She tries to call

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the police, and while she's trying to call the police,

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the guy grabs her and starts choking her. And only

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at that point does she pull out her concealed handgun

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and fatally shoot the attacker. This is somebody who had

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fell in the arrest warrants actively out for him. I

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had a long list criminal history, and you know, it's

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pretty clear she wouldn't be alive today if she didn't

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have the gun, and she had three young kids at

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home that she basically was saying that that was going

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through her mind, that she had to stay alive to

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be able to go and come back to her kids.

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You know, John, that seems to be more of the

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American story. Is you get innocence like this young woman

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twenty five years old, three kids, she's working, you know,

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to provide for her family, and then you get this

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guy who's got a track record and a list of

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I think felonies and misdemeanors and armed length long and

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he's gonna take her out. And I mean, it just

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seems like a bad exchange when it comes down to

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the quality of an individual. You know, you got a

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young mom working hard to provide for family, working, you know,

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the toughest shift you can work at a seven eleven.

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What was she doing the night shift?

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What she's doing the night Yeah, from eleven to seven am.

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Yeah. I mean, boy, talk about putting yourself in harm's way.

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But then of course her company seven to eleven says

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you're not allowed to use a gun, only use what

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you have available there in the store. So if you've

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got a box of twinkies, I guess maybe you can

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fend off a felon with a box of twinkies or whatever.

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And the other thing is is to this idea of

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being passive, How does passivity work, John in your studies?

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Right? Well, I mean that's basically the claim that seven

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eleven and some other places use. They say that the

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employee will be safest if they just comply and do

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not resist the criminal attacker. There the problem is, it's

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really statistical malpractice where that claim comes from. If you

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compare passive behavior to all forms of active resistance lump together,

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it's true the passive behavior is slightly safer, But the

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problem is is that there's many types of active resistance

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which are much more dangerous than passive behavior, particularly for women,

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and by far the safest course of action is to

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have a gun. And so when you lump all those

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things together, you miss those differences. And so, for example,

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for a woman, you're almost always talking about a male

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criminal doing the attack, so on average, they're going to

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be bigger and stronger. The most dangerous course of action

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for women to take if she's confronted by criminals to

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use her fists, because that will result in a physical

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response back from the attacker. The second most dangerous course

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of action for women to take is to run away. Now, obviously,

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if she can run away and escape, that's great, but

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women tend to be significantly slower runners than men are,

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and then the process of being tackled and subdued there

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can be serious injuries that occur to the woman. And

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then you have other things like using a baseball bat

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or a knife. The problem is is that those require

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that the woman has to be in close proproximity to

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the male attacker, and she's very likely to lose control

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of the situation if she has to get into an

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actual physical confrontation. If you ever take a concealed carry class,

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the benefit is they're going to tell you, look, you're

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not the police. Your job isn't to go and arrest

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the person. The benefit that you get from having a

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gun is to keep the criminal physically away from you,

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so you don't have to get into physical contact with them,

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and so what you find is that women who behave

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passively are about two point five times more likely to

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end up being seriously injured than a woman who has

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a gun. And you know it's better for men too,

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But when you're talking about a male criminal attacking a man,

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the strength difference there on average is smaller than when

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a man is attacking a woman, and the presence of

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a gun represents a benefit for both, but particularly large

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for a woman.

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Well, in the case of a woman who has a gun,

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or anybody who has a weapon to defend themselves, then

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you're at a critical moment that is being measured in

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seconds there, and that is do I pull the trigger?

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Has the perpetrator seen the gun and backed off enough

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to where I can have distance and move away and

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you know, get away from the threat or minimize the

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threat in any event, or do I need to pull

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the trigger? And that's something that has to be decided

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in seconds, doesn't it. Yeah?

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Sure, you know this woman had tried to call the police.

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She wasn't successful in doing that. But if she had

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called the police, you know, fast response time could be

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six minutes, you know, it could be eight minutes, could

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be more. And you know, as you're saying with regard

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to seconds, she may not have six minutes or eight minutes,

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you know, even under the best of circumstances for the

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police to be able to respond.

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Exactly.

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It's not like she can go to the criminal and say,

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could you please wait, you know, before you start strangling me,

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so that I have a chance to go and call

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the police.

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And and of course, obviously it looked like there was

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not a panic button available for her to to exercise

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at all. It seemed like in the story, right.

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Well, I don't know none was mentioned there, but even

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if there was, apparently she wasn't able to get a

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hold of it. And so you know many stores have

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panic buttons in them. But you know, her first response

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was to try to call the police, and the guy

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moved quickly enough that she wasn't able to do that.

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Right exactly. And what's her case? And now she's out

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of a job.

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Right right, Yeah, because she violated the company policy there,

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they fired her. And you know, so but as she said,

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she was just thinking about making sure that she was

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going to be able to get home to her kids

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because her kids depend on.

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Her, right well, and as is as you right, she

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served survived with wounds to her neck and her hands,

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and as you say, injuries could have been far worse.

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Oh yeah, sure. Well, I mean if she hadn't stopped

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them from strangling her, what can only imagine what the

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outcome would be.

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Yeah, and for two years she had worked that shift,

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the eleven p to seven am shift alone, John, I mean, wow,

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that I don't know how seven eleven you know, can

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get away with putting you know, their employees in that

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kind of danger.

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Well, the thing is, you know if a store, these

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stores have reputations for telling their employees to behave passively,

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you think that that just invites more of these types

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of crimes to occur because they know that this is

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a really relatively easy target for them. I mean, I

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was chief economist for the US Sentencing Commission in Washington.

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I must have read over a thousand trial transcripts, and

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you'd very frequently, have you know, one robber turned state's

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evidence against another robber, and the prosecutor would be saying

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asking him pretty much the same set of questions, you know,

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how did you pick this particular person to rob and

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the and the robber would go and say, well, you know,

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we talked about going after the drug dealer down the

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street because we know they have lots of money, but

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the drug dealer has lots of guns, and we decided

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not to go after them. And then we talked about

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maybe going after a cab driver because cab drivers usually

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have some money, but a lot of cab drivers have guns,

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so we said, you know, we don't want to do that.

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And then they saw some small woman walking alone at

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night across the parking lot and they said, you know,

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she looks like a really easy target. Let's go after her.

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And so, you know, criminals are like anybody else. If

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you make something easier, they're more likely to go and

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do that. And that's that's exactly what happened in these cases.

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And unfortunately, you know, it invites more crimes if the

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criminals think that they can get away with it.

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We're back with you, doctor John Watt, author of Gun

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Control miss and John, as you were saying, you served

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in the as a Senior Advisor for Research and Statistics

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in the Office of Justice Programs in the Office of

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Legal Policy in the US Department of Justice during twenty

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twenty and twenty twenty one. And I mean, the facts

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bear out the research and the common sense that has

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been right before us, but it just seems that people

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want to ignore it for whatever reason. I mean, you know,

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there is a reason that you have law and order,

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and you must have law and you must have order

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in order to maintain the law, right.

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Right. Look, I mean this isn't rocket science. If you

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want to reduce crime, you have to make it riskier

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for criminals crime. And you can do that with things

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like higher arrest rates, higher conviction rates, longer prison sentences.

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But you can also do it by allowing victims to

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be able to go and defend themselves. And unfortunately, you

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know a lot of people out there, a lot of Democrats.

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I mean, one can at least say they're consistent they

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don't want to make it risky for criminals. To make

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crime in terms of arrest rates or conviction rates or

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prison sentences. And they also don't want to make it

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risky for criminals to commit crime in terms of the

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victims being able to go and defend themselves. In this

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case in Oklahoma that we've been talking about, this individual,

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this robber was he had a felony arrest warrant out

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for him right now. He had a long criminal history

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that was there, so I mean, this wasn't his first

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time going and committing these types of crimes.

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Well, John, considering where we are right now with estimates

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of estimations of what twenty million illegal immigrants, we see

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what's happening. People are being murdered. It seems like every

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day you're reading these murder rates you know that involve

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illegal immigrants. I mean, America, it seems like we're at

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increasing levels of danger because of the massive amount of

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immigration that has come into our country.

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Well, look, during the four years of the Biden administration,

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we had the largest percentage increase in violent crime ever

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recorded since they started collecting those numbers. It went up

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by fifty nine percent. And to me, it's not, you know,

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a coincidence that we had that massive increase in violent

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crime at the same time, we had this massive, unprecedented

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increase in illegal immigrant that was coming into the country.

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This year murder rates and I believe it will show

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violent crime rates are going down dramatically. In fact, it

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looks like we're on track for the lowest murder rate

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ever recorded in the US. So and the thing is,

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you know, it's not too surprising to me, given the

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fact that they are deporting criminal, illegal aliens, so they're

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not here to commit crimes anymore. But it's more than that,

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because even though you aren't catching all the illegal criminals

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to go and deport them, the ones that are here

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don't want to get deported. And the way to keep

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from being deported is to keep off of the police's

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radar exactly because they know if they get arrested, they'll

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get turned over to Ice. And so what happens is

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is that they keep their heads down, they try not

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to go and commit crimes. And so it's both the

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ones that you're taking out of the country that aren't

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here to commit crimes, but also making it risky for

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the ones that you haven't caught yet to go and

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commit crimes. Both of those help and of course, there

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are other things that are going on. The FBI's arrests

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have increased by one hundred percent. They've doubled from what

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they were in twenty twenty four under the Biden administration.

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out of the DC area headquarters to places around the

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country where the crimes are occurring. Obviously, Trump has shown

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by putting in federal law enforcement and National Guards into

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d C, you can cut crime there. You have places

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like Judge Jane Piro, who's the acting who's the US

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attorney for or DC. Uh, you know, very dramatic change

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from the Biden administration.

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She's actually prosecuting these criminals and not letting him go.

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you know, I think Trump is showing that if you

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make it risky for criminals to commit crime, you can

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reduce the amount of crime.

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Well, you know a lot of what we're seeing here,

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Like you said, John, it's not rocket science, it's it's

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common sense. I mean, we saw this happen in New

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York when New York put those six hundred plain clothes

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police officers, you know, on the streets, the guns were

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put away, and then as soon as Eric Adams came

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in and he took him off the street, then guess

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what happened? The guns came out of the closet and

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they said it.

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Was the I think it was the mayor before us.

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Was it de Blasio that did that? R? Okay?

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But but I'm not sure that Eric Adams did much

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to bring the numbers in masks that were previously in

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terms of playing clothesmen on the street. Did he No?

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I mean, he's been somewhat better than Deblasio. He's done

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some things like allowing ICE to go into port individuals.

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Of course, Mandami is going to reverse that. He's going

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to make it so that they're going to be protected.

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You know, you look at these things and you see

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these Just a report that just came out, ICE has

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put detainers on over seven thousand criminals that are currently

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incarcerated in jails and prisons in New York and New

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York had already released almost seven thousand more earlier this year.

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But the seven thousand, one hundred and thirteen or whatever

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it is, that was about fourteen percent of all those

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who are incarcerated in jails and prisons in New York State.

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And the problem is is that that's according to different statistics,

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you have about three percent of the New York State

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population are illegal aliens, and so if you're talking about

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fourteen percent of those in prison in jails are illegals,

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that means they're overrepresented compared to their share of the

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population by like four times.

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Right, exactly, Yeah, yeah, So what is that telling us.

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It's telling us that the illegals commit crimes at high rates.

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Even though that there's some argument. They try to say, well,

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you know, compared to compared to Anglo Saxons, you know, no, but.

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I mean compared to Americans, they commit at high rates.

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What people do often with these things is they lump

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together legal and illegal immigrants. And the problem is legal

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immigrants actually do commit crimes at fairly low rates. Illegals

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committed at very high rates. But when you lump them together,

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you miss that difference. And there are others that rely

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on something called the American Community Survey, and I've written

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extensively on that. There are many problems with it. One

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of the problems is that it's self reporting. The individuals

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are asked, are you here illegally or not, and maybe

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some bias. People may not want to go and say yeah,

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I'm here illegally when they're asked in a survey question.

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I know, they try to go and do things like

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look to see whether the person's on welfare or not.

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But they're assume that if you're getting government welfare, then

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you're here illegally. And as I'm sure you know, there

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are apparently a lot of illegal aliens who are getting

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uh you know, who are getting welfare from the government,

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and so, uh you know, there are lots of problems

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with those numbers and uh uh and I think this

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gives a good insight into and even that's probably an

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underestimate because obviously New York State is not assisting ICE

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and identifying whether these people are here legally or not.

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What what is it going to take? John, Is it

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just going to take the will of the president? And uh,

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you know Tom Homan just to say okay, I mean,

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because they pretty much have done this on their own

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without assistance. Whether we're talking New York or we're talking Chicago, LA.

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These are all have been impediments to trying to clean

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up the system here.

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Look, it's mind boggling to me. Why you want to

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fight so hard to keep murderers and rapists and robbers

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and others in the country.

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Uh.

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Here you of individuals who have committed vile child rapes

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that they released from prison. They refuse to let ice

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know that these individuals are being released back into the community.

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There was one case I just was reading about how

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this guy, the Somali in Minnesota had raped multiple children,

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was released and just raped another child. You know, so

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it's just crazy that, you know, you have to ask yourself,

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what why are these the types of people you want

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to try to keep in the country. I mean, even

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if you want to keep illegals generally in the country,

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why do you want to keep violent, criminal illegal aliens

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who have harmed Americans in the country. You know, last year,

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shortly before the election, the Biden administration said of the

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seven point four million so called non detained illegals that

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they had been released into the country, about nine percent,

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or about six hundred and sixty four thousand of them

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had criminal records in their home countries thousands, something like

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about fifteen thousand for murder and many other violent crimes.

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And my guess is that even that nine cent was

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an underestimate because it depends on many countries like Venezuela

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whatever to go and provide that information. They're refusing to

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do so. But the other thing to realize is not

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only is that nine percent ridiculously high to begin with,

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but the problem is is that these are overwhelmingly individuals

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who voluntarily turned themselves in at the border. They're not

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the ones that you should be the most concerned about.

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You have during the bid administration, you have so called

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two million, so called guidaways, people that we saw coming

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in but we didn't catch those you would think are

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much more at a serious risk of being criminal backgrounds.

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And then we had millions of others that we never

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even saw coming across the border because seventy six percent

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of the border agents were pulled off of guarding the

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border during the Biden administration and were instead used for

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processing the illegals that were coming into the country. And

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on top of that, you also had the fact that

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about thirty percent of the monitoring equipment that we had

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along the border was broken and was not being repaired

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by the Biden administration, And so you had huge portions

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of the border, presumably portions that the drug cartels knew

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about where we had no way of kind of monitoring

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the people that were coming across, and presumably the ones

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that were trying to sneak across without getting monitored or

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were the ones that we should be most concerned about.

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So if it's nine percent minimum of the ones that

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turn themselves in primarily at the border are criminals, one

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could only imagine the percentages for those many millions who

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we didn't catch.

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Exactly got to leave it there for now. Doctor John Lott,

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the president of the Crime Prevention Research Center, author of

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Gun Control and Miss John. Where can they go for

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more information?

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Good morning, Welcome Bill Martinez here, and we've got doctor

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Carol Lieberman joining us to talk about the National Guard

534
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shooting suspect that you know is being said that he

535
00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:24.599
was radicalized here in the US. This is according to

536
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the Homeland Secretary. Doctor Lieberman is always good to have

537
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you with us. How are you?

538
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Thank you fine?

539
00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:32.799
Thank you? So do you buy into this that he

540
00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:38.680
was radicalized here or was he radicalized before because you know,

541
00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:41.279
whether we're talking about the Somalis, because that's in the

542
00:32:41.319 --> 00:32:45.240
news headlines right now. I mean, if that's the the

543
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I guess the pool of people that you're drawing from

544
00:32:48.200 --> 00:32:50.599
the universe that you're drawing from, and you know they

545
00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:53.000
have issues, what do you think that they're going to

546
00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:55.000
suddenly come to America and be different?

547
00:32:56.440 --> 00:33:01.559
Not in our school system? Okay, well it's a combination.

548
00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:06.519
You know, it's a perfect storm. And for starters, you

549
00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:11.680
can take an Afghan out of Afghanistan, but you can't

550
00:33:11.759 --> 00:33:16.480
really take Afghanistan out of an Afghan, right, And so

551
00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:26.119
he came here in the chaos that was Biden's ridiculous, horrible, devastating.

552
00:33:26.119 --> 00:33:29.480
I mean, there aren't enough words to describe it. Surrender.

553
00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:32.920
And you know which history is gonna is going to

554
00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:37.119
eventually show us just how the extent of how bad

555
00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:37.559
that was.

556
00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:38.440
Exactly.

557
00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:41.559
One of the things is that in that chaos they

558
00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:46.079
brought over seventy to eighty thousand Afghans who they claimed

559
00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:50.839
were helping Americans. And if they were all helping Americans.

560
00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:52.519
We should have won, right exactly.

561
00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:57.680
Yeah, But anyhow, and they're all over the United States,

562
00:33:57.720 --> 00:34:02.480
and so I think, you know, maybe he did help

563
00:34:02.519 --> 00:34:04.599
America to some extent when he was there, but I

564
00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:07.319
think a lot of it comes from just their underlying

565
00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:12.000
you know, radical Islamic beliefs. Where wherever they are, the

566
00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:15.199
idea is to kill all the infidels. So that's the

567
00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:18.159
first thing. Then, yes, is it possible that when he

568
00:34:18.320 --> 00:34:24.280
was here that he did become radicalized further, you know,

569
00:34:25.159 --> 00:34:28.760
online or with friends or whatever. Yes, it certainly is possible.

570
00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:32.000
And then the third part of this puzzle is the

571
00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:36.599
allegations of his friends and neighbors that he has mental

572
00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:40.119
illness and that they were trying to call some refugee

573
00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:42.599
organization to get him help or something.

574
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:43.480
But you know what.

575
00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:47.119
People don't want to believe. You know, terrorists use the

576
00:34:47.159 --> 00:34:51.400
mental illness excuse all the time for after they commit

577
00:34:51.480 --> 00:34:54.800
an attack. And what people need to realize is that

578
00:34:54.840 --> 00:34:57.039
you can be mentally ill. I don't know for sure

579
00:34:57.079 --> 00:34:59.480
whether he is or not, but you could be mentally

580
00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:03.159
ill and be a terrorist. And if he was just

581
00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:06.079
mentally ill, he would have killed somebody in Washington State,

582
00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:07.320
you know, right where he lives.

583
00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:08.039
He wouldn't have.

584
00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:11.519
Traveled across the country to kill national guardsmen. I mean,

585
00:35:11.559 --> 00:35:14.920
there's a lot of and to say ala hu Appar.

586
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:18.880
Yes, right on top of it, right, yeah, exactly. And

587
00:35:19.119 --> 00:35:21.480
you know, and the deal again, he was all part

588
00:35:21.559 --> 00:35:26.199
of this Allies welcome program that the Biden administration had

589
00:35:26.719 --> 00:35:29.079
put into play here. And you know, and I think

590
00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:32.559
it's really absurd, doctor Lieberman, because when you think about

591
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:35.159
having somebody come into the country they didn't have a job,

592
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there's no purpose. He brings with him his worldview from

593
00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:46.000
Afghanistan and here we are, I mean, and he's supposed

594
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to check in what I mean, this is the other

595
00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:51.280
thing that drives me nuts. You're supposed to check in

596
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:54.760
like once every twelve months. I mean, you've got a

597
00:35:54.880 --> 00:35:58.679
high maintenance prospect here, and you're only going to check

598
00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:02.800
in with him one time, one time a year, and

599
00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:05.480
and and and which reportedly he didn't even check in

600
00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:07.559
at all.

601
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:12.119
Yes, because it's easy to get lost in America.

602
00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:14.920
And so here it is. It puts us at risk

603
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:18.239
time and again. And then of course what Americans say

604
00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:21.159
immediately is okay, here's one. How many more?

605
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:26.360
Right we have? We really have? I think if people

606
00:36:26.440 --> 00:36:31.639
realize how big the problem was keeping the stand under

607
00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:33.800
the covers in the morning they'd be pulling the covers

608
00:36:33.880 --> 00:36:36.320
up over their head and not going out. I mean,

609
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:39.119
you know, we have not only these seventy to eighty

610
00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:44.000
thousand Afghans, but we have people crossing, terrorists crossing the

611
00:36:44.039 --> 00:36:47.800
border on the north and the south. We have we

612
00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:52.159
have people get being radicalized online, you know, just Americans

613
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:55.599
or foreigners or whatever, because ISIS and al Qaeda have

614
00:36:55.719 --> 00:37:01.400
not not stopped recruiting. And during in COVID, when everybody

615
00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:04.519
was supposed to be staying at home, that was prime

616
00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:09.920
recruiting recruiting time for terrorist organizations. And so that's going on.

617
00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:15.159
And then then there are these communities where there's a

618
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:17.719
you know, in Texas and Florida theyre ability and not

619
00:37:17.800 --> 00:37:22.400
to mention Dearborn and Minnesota, they're developing these really strong

620
00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:27.000
communities like this man had five children for example. You know,

621
00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:31.519
they are purposely breeding, right, you know, not just because

622
00:37:31.559 --> 00:37:34.800
sex is fun, but because they're trying to breed more terrorists.

623
00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:39.320
So so we they're really the problem is a lot

624
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:43.119
greater than what the mainstream media might want us to believe.

625
00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:46.039
Well, and as you say, it doesn't stop there. I mean,

626
00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:48.920
look at what's happened in education. We have professors, we

627
00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:52.360
have people in the country influencing the young people that

628
00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:55.920
have no love for Western civilization. Their goal is to

629
00:37:57.519 --> 00:38:01.480
is to bring Western civilization down. And America has been

630
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:03.920
at war for a long time with this. But we

631
00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:06.440
just have been asleep. We're just not, you know, not

632
00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:10.639
realizing it. We're you know, people have you know, incorrectly

633
00:38:11.039 --> 00:38:15.079
have looked to the media who are totally incurious in

634
00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:17.760
reporting on this, right, And so here it is, We've

635
00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:22.480
just allowed this cancer to metastasize. And here we are

636
00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:24.519
waking up today and you go, oh my god, this

637
00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:27.039
is going on in Minnesota, this is happening in Texas

638
00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:29.719
just like you said, and in other areas where they're

639
00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:34.480
building up these political enclaves, and and look what happened.

640
00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:37.159
I mean, you've got a governor of a state that

641
00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:41.639
is so compromised because of the political influence of Somali's there.

642
00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:45.599
Yes, can you imagine if he really did well? Kamala

643
00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:47.199
would have would have been bad enough, But can you

644
00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:50.559
imagine if if Tim Walltz would have become vice president?

645
00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:54.039
I mean, and also we can't forget to mention Mom, Donnie,

646
00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:57.519
oh my gosh, yeah, in New York, which I mean,

647
00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:00.840
it's it's if someone if this was or a script,

648
00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:03.840
you know, it would be turned down in Hollywood because

649
00:39:03.880 --> 00:39:06.599
nobody would believe that New Yorkers, the main sight of

650
00:39:06.679 --> 00:39:11.639
nine to eleven would vote for basically a terrorist mayor exactly.

651
00:39:11.719 --> 00:39:15.039
And he's gathering, talking about gathering, you know, an enclaves,

652
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:18.639
he's gathering. The people who he is already putting into

653
00:39:18.679 --> 00:39:24.519
slots in his administration are all either terrorists or anti Israel,

654
00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:28.719
anti Semitic. I mean, he's bringing people who support his beliefs,

655
00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:31.920
which you know it's normal for an elected official to do.

656
00:39:32.039 --> 00:39:36.159
But one of these beliefs are so dangerous it's very bad.

657
00:39:36.239 --> 00:39:36.400
You know.

658
00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:40.119
I was born and bred in New York and I

659
00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:43.840
live in California now, but you know, but my heart

660
00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:46.199
is still in New York. So it really makes me

661
00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:47.800
sad to see what's happening.

662
00:39:48.480 --> 00:39:50.199
Well, and I got to tell you, you know, for us,

663
00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:53.480
it was a tradition for us too. I'm in Florida

664
00:39:53.599 --> 00:39:56.599
now and I was in California born and raised, but

665
00:39:56.679 --> 00:39:58.880
it was a tradition. I love New York, especially at

666
00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:00.880
this time of year. We have been back for a

667
00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:04.440
number of years, and uh, and with what is going

668
00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:08.199
on right now. I don't know when I'll be able

669
00:40:08.239 --> 00:40:11.039
to go back to New York, you know, and I

670
00:40:11.199 --> 00:40:13.599
just uh, you know, I can see the parade, the

671
00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:17.480
Macy's parade, and but my heart yearns as I'm sure

672
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your heart yearns for New York as well. And I,

673
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you know, I just have always loved the city. I

674
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loved what it had to offer and the culture and

675
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you know, the just you know, the breath of culture

676
00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:33.800
that's there that unfortunately we don't get to partake in

677
00:40:34.320 --> 00:40:38.039
because of the wackiness of you know, the city and

678
00:40:38.119 --> 00:40:38.519
the state.

679
00:40:39.239 --> 00:40:43.280
Yes, yes, well I hope alive. Stefanic whens that that's

680
00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:46.519
that's one way that we might be able to salvage.

681
00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:49.400
Some of it. Well, I believe the American people and

682
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the silent majority as they've referred to often, have got

683
00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:56.119
to quit being silent because that's all it takes. That's

684
00:40:56.159 --> 00:40:59.599
all it's taken for them to take over. And here

685
00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:02.360
they are doing it with such a small percentage. But

686
00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:06.039
that is such the state of history, and again it's

687
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repeating itself. Doctor Carol Lieberman is with us, and she'll

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Welcome back Bill Martinez here with doctor Carrol Lieberman. She's

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known worldwide as America Psychiatrist and a terrorist therapist. She's

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com and the Terrorist Therapist at podcasts. She's a forensic psychiatrist,

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expert witness, best selling, award winning author of four books,

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two on terrorism and two on relationships. I know it's

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sad in one regard for you to talk about, you know,

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writing books on terrorism, but this is the world we

772
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live in today, and do we see any respite or

773
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is it just going to keep on getting worse.

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It's going to keep on getting worse the way it's going.

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You know.

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I started to become meaning the terrorist therapist since nine

777
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to eleven because because you know, because of the main

778
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attack being on my city, right and and and so

779
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I started off by helping people cope with nine to eleven.

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Then uh my, my first book on terrorism was published

781
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by a London publisher for their first nine eleven, which

782
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was seven seven, two thousand and five. And I was

783
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coping with terrorism dreams interrupted. And you know, look at

784
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England now, you know, I mean, look at America. From

785
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nine to eleven, we just talked about electing a terrorist mayor.

786
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And and in England. England is I think the worst

787
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country now in the greater Europe, because I mean it

788
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used to be France. I mean, terrorists are are destroying

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Europe as we speak. And so and then and then

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uh then I for the books by my next book,

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Lyons and Tigers and Terrorists on I how to protect

792
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your child in a time of terror. It's for children.

793
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That book won lots of awards. So it brought me

794
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to Paris, you know, because the Paris Book Festival, and

795
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it brought me to London and I went to Manchester also.

796
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So I've been around the world and I just came

797
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back from Israel. I was in Israel volunteering helping people

798
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with trauma of there of October seventh and all the

799
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ongoing terror attacks that they from. So you know, if

800
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you just look at that, you know, one person's trajectory.

801
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I mean, it's just been getting worse and worse all over.

802
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So so it's you know, I mean, and they're becoming

803
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in Bolden. That's part of the problem too. Like in Europe.

804
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You know, there were a lot of attacks there, still are.

805
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There are more in France, in Paris and in France,

806
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and now there are so many more there. England, you know,

807
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is totally out of control. Germany, I mean they've just

808
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you know, Germany kind of started it with Merkle bringing

809
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in a million terrorists, Uh right, you know, a million

810
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radical Islamic migrants.

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Basically, Yes, That's what I was going to say, is

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that they need to be identified who they are. And

813
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I get this is kind of the confusion, especially here

814
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in the West, is because we don't want to call

815
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things for what they are, and we come up with

816
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some sort of nice fuzzy euphemism and in the process

817
00:48:25.639 --> 00:48:28.639
we just elevate the danger exactly exactly.

818
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I mean, I know people might well say I'm islam

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and phobic, but I'm not. I'm just trying to warn people,

820
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you know, what is happening. When nt Yadhu came and

821
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spoke to Congress, he talked about like, gays for Gaza

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are really like chickens for KFC.

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Do you remember, right exactly?

824
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You know, they don't they don't even understand what they're supporting.

825
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You know that that these people, the Gazans, i mean,

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the Hamas would kill them if they went to Gaza

827
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or went anywhere in the Middle East. Terror don't believe

828
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in LGBTQ. Plus, so people are so ignorant. That's the

829
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part that just is so frustrated.

830
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I know, you get these young kids on these college campuses,

831
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you know, LGBTQ and other radicals chanting, you know, from

832
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the river to the sea, and they have no idea

833
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what that means that river and what's the yes, yeah right.

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Yeah, Like when people go and interview them and they

835
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ask what river, what's the what do you they don't

836
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know and they don't care. They're not embarrassed that they

837
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don't know. To make it worse, they're not even embarrassed.

838
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:33.599
Right exactly, there's no shame here. I was looking at

839
00:49:33.639 --> 00:49:37.400
this breakdown says how Islam is colonizing non Muslim countries.

840
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I don't know if you've seen this, but it was

841
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a comparison of growth between twenty ten and the projected

842
00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:47.480
growth of twenty thirty. Just in the United States alone.

843
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At twenty ten, the Muslims amounted to about two and

844
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a half million in terms of population in this country.

845
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By twenty thirty, expected to grow one hundred and forty

846
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percent to six point two million. And we're already seeing

847
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the signs of their influence, whether it's electing a Marxist

848
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communist mayor in New York, what's happened in Minneapolis with

849
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the Somali's, how they've taken over and the fraud that

850
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they've been able to perpetrate. I mean, look at we've

851
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abandoned the truth of immigration and what makes immigration work,

852
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and by doing that, we've left ourselves so vulnerable, and

853
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we've put in jeopardy this democratic republic, And so what

854
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kind of government are we going to turn over to

855
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our grandkids and our great grandkids, thank you very much.

856
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Yes, you know, there are people who come here and

857
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who work and pay taxes and have good families and

858
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all of that. That's fine, that's great. But you know,

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people coming from from radical, radical microsin, people coming from

860
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Islamic countries, that is not what they are going to

861
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want to do. I mean, that is not their ultimate aim.

862
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So it's it's really well the company is doing is

863
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I mean, Trump is doing the right thing. But of

864
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course you know, of course there are all these Obama

865
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and Biden appointed judges who try to stop all the

866
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good things that he does.

867
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Right. Well, you know what you're saying, doctor Lieberman, is

868
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that you know, for these foreigners who come in who

869
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have their own worldview and want to impose their worldview

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in the communities that they grow. Like you know, one

871
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of my old Bible instructors, Chuck Missler, had taught us

872
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and said that, and this was twenty some years ago.

873
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He said, the growth and expansion of Muslims, what they

874
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do is they're very cooperative and congenial up to about

875
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five percent. But when they get beyond five percent, that's

876
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when they start to muscle up and begin to impose

877
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their worldview on communities. And again we see what's happened,

878
00:52:11.960 --> 00:52:13.960
you know, we keep saying in Minneapolis. I mean, that's

879
00:52:14.039 --> 00:52:19.119
such a glaring, obvious example of what's going on. And

880
00:52:19.159 --> 00:52:23.599
this is not an anomaly. This is a planned, purposeful

881
00:52:23.960 --> 00:52:28.320
agenda and objective for these radical Muslims, right right.

882
00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:31.760
Yes, you know, when nine to eleven happened, and I decided,

883
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I asked myself, what could I I just had this

884
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feeling that this was going to be the biggest danger

885
00:52:36.800 --> 00:52:40.320
in our lifetime, right but I knew I knew very

886
00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:44.840
little about terrorism, so I quickly, you know, started researching

887
00:52:44.840 --> 00:52:46.960
and learning, and I went to conferences and all that,

888
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and I'll never forget at these conferences, the people who

889
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were already experts and terrorism talked about how what they're

890
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going to be doing is not just you know, not more,

891
00:52:58.480 --> 00:53:00.559
not necessarily. I mean, yes, there'll be a tax, but

892
00:53:01.039 --> 00:53:03.320
they're not going to rely just on attacks like nine

893
00:53:03.360 --> 00:53:07.800
to eleven. They're going to be gradually seeping through our society,

894
00:53:08.119 --> 00:53:11.280
in our schools, in our government, in the media. And

895
00:53:11.360 --> 00:53:14.519
that's how they're taking control. And that is exactly they

896
00:53:14.639 --> 00:53:19.599
knew this twenty four years ago. And that's exactly what's happening.

897
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So people think, just because you know, there aren't nine

898
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to eleven attacks every month, that we're fine, But no,

899
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it's you know, that's why we have the education that

900
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we have. I mean, that's it's the Red Green Alliance,

901
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the Red being communist and the Green being terrorists, and

902
00:53:36.119 --> 00:53:39.079
they have allied themselves with each other. There are things

903
00:53:39.079 --> 00:53:42.119
they don't agree on, but for the purpose of destroying America,

904
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they are in unison. And so this is really so

905
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In other words, I'm trying to say, is that at

906
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the time of nine to eleven, there were people, experts

907
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who knew about this, and I'm sure they tried to

908
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warn people, you know, and yet it's happened our country.

909
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Let it happen. Yes, so now we're sort of playing

910
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catch up. But it's better to play catch up than

911
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you know, just still pretend that we don't think this

912
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is going on.

913
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Well, like you said, we're fortunate to have Donald Trump

914
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as the president of the United States, because if not

915
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Donald Trump, then who yes, right.

916
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Who would who would? Who would risk their life? Every

917
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day he risks his life, there are people countless people

918
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who still want to assassinate him, including the terrorists. You know,

919
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just put out a fautoa on him, and yet he

920
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does it because he cares more about making America great

921
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than about protecting his own life.

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Thirty seconds left, Doctor Carroll Lieberman, what's your prescription for

923
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we the people?

924
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Huh? Well, I think well, I think we need to

925
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give instead of instead of trumped arrangement syndrome, we need

926
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to give him our support and recognize, you know, instead

927
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of hating the man and think, oh, you know, he's

928
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a king, he's Instead of all that, we need to

929
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just look what he's proposing, what he's already done, and

930
00:55:02.360 --> 00:55:05.559
appreciate it and help in our own communities. We can

931
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help towards some of these things.

932
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And we need to send elected officials. I keep saying,

933
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we need to send reinforcements to help support his cause

934
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or cause on behalf of the American people, especially for

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the midterms. Right. Oh, absolutely, without a doubt, Doctor Carol Lieberman.

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She is known as America's psychiatrist and the terrorist therapists.

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Where can they go for more information to find out

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more about you, doctor Lieberman?

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Well, relevant to our discussion today, the best place to

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go would be my website, terroristtherapist dot com.

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Bill Martinez here with the John Fleetwood from John fleetwood

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dot com. Hey John, good morning, Hey Bill, good morning.

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How you doing, sir, Hey, I'm doing terrific. Good to

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be talking talking to you. Boy the who just does

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not know when to say enough. They're just, uh, you know,

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they're working on a new plan always, aren't they.

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Well, I've I've been reporting for a couple of years now,

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you know, sort of sort of feeling like the boy

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boy who cried Wolf. Sometimes I'm always talking about bird

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flu and the different gain of function experiments. You know,

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It's not like I'm making stuff up here. I go

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to peer reviewed journals and I find the latest publications

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from uh, these these top publications and where they're explaining

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that they're doing gain of function research. They call it

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reverse genetics now where they build viruses on computers. These

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are chimeric viruses. They are combinations. They're especially working very

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hard and dumping billions and billions of dollars. Governments all

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over the world are into influenza, specifically bird flu.

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What's you just said, chimera? What's chimeric virus? Is? What

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does that mean?

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So a chimera? If you read you know, like ancient literature,

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there's there's talk of these chimeras. These are in the

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usual you know vernacular. They're usually referring to these creatures

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that are blends, that are hybrids of multiple creatures, like

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a griffin, right, is a combination of like a lion

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and an eagle, say, or a centaur. It's a half

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man half you know, some some sort of beasts where

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his legs are like a horse's. It's a chimera. It's

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a hybrid, it's a blend. Well, scientists now use what's

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called reverse genetics, where they can just from just from

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a computer, they can build pathogens with different pieces of

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different viruses. They can take multiple of one virus they have,

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you know, if they have an influenza strain, a bird

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flu strain, they'll have multiple bird flu strains. They'll take

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a little bit of this bird flu. They'll take a

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little bit of H five N one, maybe two different

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things of H five N one, and those stick them

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together Frankenstein's style. And those are the experiments that are

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going on every day. I report on these. You know,

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you you you you'd run out of time reporting on

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how often these experiments are going on in labs all

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over the United States, from the CDC to you know,

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various universities and then all over the world and there.

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Wait, what's and what's the purpose of this, John, Is

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this bio weaponry or is this just mad scientists in

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a room just thinking and playing with stuff to think

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what you know, to see what they can come up with.

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Yeah, it's a good question. It's like why it's especially because, uh,

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you know who was at the FDA head Marty McKay,

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Doctor Martin McKay, who's from Johns Hopkins by the way,

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came out and said, hey, it looks like, uh, these

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these different viruses like HIV and lime disease were actually

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cooked up in labs. This is Marty McKay on the

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the what's his name, Patrick Ben David I think his

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name this podcast where where he said, hey, lined disease

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was cooked up in this lab over on the northeast

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coast of the US, and then he said HIV was

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probably cooked up in a laboratory in Africa. So yeah,

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they're they say like they're doing these reverse genetics experiments.

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They say they're doing them for vaccine research, and I

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don't doubt that, but but regulators call this dual use

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research du R and sometimes d u R C dual

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01:00:28.519 --> 01:00:32.320
use research of concern because there's a dual use. If

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you're making a pathogen for a vaccine, that's one use.

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But the second use where dul comes in is that

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these could be used for evil, intentionally or unintentionally. There

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could be a lab leak, there could be somebody releasing

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it intentionally. Congress, the White House, Department of Energy, FBI, CIA,

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German Intelligence all say that the most likely origin of

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01:00:56.159 --> 01:01:00.719
the COVID pandemic was a laboratory. So that would read

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questions whenever we see these experiments going.

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On exactly, Well, what comes to mind right away here, John,

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Sorry to interrupt you, but it's it's like there's a

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bio weapon war happening in the periphery of our planet

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01:01:14.719 --> 01:01:17.880
here that you know, it's it's kind of just happening

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in the dark, and the people of the world are

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01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:24.480
being kept in the dark. I mean, we're all being

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01:01:24.519 --> 01:01:27.360
treated like mushrooms, as they say, kept in the dark

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and fed manure. And meanwhile, you got these mad scienceists.

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You maybe have some good mad scientists, and then you

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01:01:34.280 --> 01:01:38.719
have some you know, evil mad scientists, and the and

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01:01:38.760 --> 01:01:40.599
the good are trying to stay ahead of the evil

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01:01:40.880 --> 01:01:43.440
because the evil will do what evil does, and that's

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01:01:43.719 --> 01:01:45.440
they'll create more evil, will they.

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Not Absolutely, there's going to be a little bit of

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good and a little bit of bad and in any organization,

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because that's there's a little bit of good and a

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01:01:51.800 --> 01:01:53.840
little bit of bad in all of us. But you

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01:01:53.920 --> 01:01:57.039
raise a good point. I think that it bumps up

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01:01:57.079 --> 01:02:02.280
against what's called informed consent, where if you're if you're

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going to have be exposed to some sort of drug

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or procedure, you need to be informed of it, and

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you need to be informed of the potential problems and

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01:02:12.800 --> 01:02:17.159
consequences of taking that. And the people who live next

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to these labs. There's labs in Tennessee, there's labs in Florida,

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01:02:19.960 --> 01:02:22.519
there's labs you know, in Georgia. They're there, They're again

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all over the United States, all over the world, and

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nobody living next to these things, I think understands what

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01:02:28.679 --> 01:02:31.760
they say they're doing in these labs, which are cooking

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01:02:31.880 --> 01:02:36.599
up these chimeric pathogens that are blends of multiple path

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in pathogens for the stated purpose of vaccines. But again,

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we have we learned nothing from the COVID pandemic, which

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showed us that hey, pathogens can get out intentionally or

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01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:52.159
unintentionally and cause lots of havoc. And it's not always

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01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:55.360
the pathogen that's that's the worst part. Sometimes it's the

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01:02:55.400 --> 01:02:57.840
response to the pathogen, Like we're seeing all the problems

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01:02:57.840 --> 01:03:01.000
with the COVID vaccines that are ill coming out, and

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01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:03.920
then obviously the lockdown measures. I think that's one of

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01:03:03.960 --> 01:03:06.239
the worst things. That was one of the most dehumanizing

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01:03:06.320 --> 01:03:13.079
experiences of my life, probably you know, for being forced

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to wear masks, being forced to social distance, feeling like

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a social pariah because you didn't get a vaccine when oh,

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the Congress you know, later confirmed that the six foot

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rule was completely made up. Masking was not effective, the

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01:03:30.119 --> 01:03:33.199
vaccine was not effective like they said it would. So

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that's why I'm focused so much of my time really

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studying the ins and outs of how these pandemics get

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started in the first place, pathogen research, the dual use

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01:03:43.599 --> 01:03:45.800
research of concern like we talked about, so that we're

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prepared and ready for the next one. And it looks

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01:03:49.199 --> 01:03:52.159
like the next one's probably going to be they're probably

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going to do something with bird flu. That's why we're

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keeping our eye on that. And it's something that the

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01:03:59.760 --> 01:04:05.719
you know, the World Health Organization has also focused on specifically,

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01:04:06.360 --> 01:04:10.679
they're focusing on, you know, influenza. They're rolling out this

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new future COVID pandemic plan. So apparently the World Health

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Organization is getting prepared for yet another coronavirus pandemic. And

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this is even after you know, Donald Trump ordered the

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withdrawal of the United States from the World Health Organization.

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That was back i think in January of this year,

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really early on in this year, and and he said,

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if you read the executive order, it's very plain that

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we're not supposed to be in the in the World

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01:04:43.079 --> 01:04:47.400
Health Organization at all. Well, it turns out even after that,

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01:04:47.519 --> 01:04:50.119
we've we've got the WHO as they're rolling out this

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global sentinel surveillance where they're they're getting locked into lockstep

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all these different laboratories all over the world. It turns

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out you've got the the CDC is participating in this

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01:05:03.360 --> 01:05:06.880
this w new WHO agenda. You've got Ohio State University

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01:05:06.920 --> 01:05:10.679
as well Emory University. And you could argue, well, Emery University,

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01:05:10.760 --> 01:05:14.280
Ohio University. You know, those are universities, so they're not

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01:05:14.400 --> 01:05:18.039
like government controlled per se. But you've still got the CDC,

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01:05:18.760 --> 01:05:23.840
which is participating with this program, even even despite the withdrawal,

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01:05:24.000 --> 01:05:26.320
and you know, you scratch your head and you wonder, well,

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01:05:26.320 --> 01:05:28.440
if we withdrew from the WHO, why are we in

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01:05:28.480 --> 01:05:32.519
it exactly? And I think that's because, you know, they

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01:05:32.840 --> 01:05:35.639
control this stuff from from behind the scenes. They see

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that the people don't like the World Health Organization. They

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see that Bill Gates, who you know, nobody likes anymore,

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is funding and controlling that thing. And you know, I

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think they probably do this stuff for show. For all

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01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:51.360
the good that Trump has done, you know, he'll do

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01:05:51.480 --> 01:05:53.599
something for show, like say, hey, we're pulling out of

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the WHO because you can tell people like me don't

1116
01:05:55.719 --> 01:05:58.119
like it, and we talk about it a lot. But

1117
01:05:58.639 --> 01:06:04.360
unfortunately we're still participating with that World Health Organization. Unfortunately.

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Well, we got to go to a quick break. We've

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Welcome back nineteen minutes after the top of the Our

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Billboard team is here with John Fleetwood from John Fleetwood

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dot com. John, I know some heads are spinning after,

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you know, the last few statements right before we went

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to break, and that is that you get people who

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01:10:56.800 --> 01:11:01.640
continue to disobey and order. Our commander in chief, our

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01:11:01.720 --> 01:11:05.560
chief executive officer of our country, has made a clear statement.

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I mean, there's no confusion about it, and that is

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that we are to withdraw from the WHO. But the

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mad scientists and the elites of our country believe that, hey,

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you're not the boss of me. I can do whatever

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I want to do anyway, and they're ignoring the president's order.

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I mean so and meanwhile, so that's one, you know

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wheel on the bus, and then you got the other

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wheel where what you're reporting on is all this infrastructure

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and all this you know, chain of service connection that

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is being set up that you can see quite clearly

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and much the same way that anybody on the planet

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01:11:45.279 --> 01:11:49.039
could see when Russia was setting up for war against Ukraine.

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Everything had to be in place. You could see the infrastructure,

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01:11:53.039 --> 01:11:56.000
and so we see the same type of mechanism happening.

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But now it happens to do with biological warfare. Does

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it not?

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Yeah, what we're what we're seeing going on with the

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World Health Organization, for example, is you've got this Bill

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Gates funded and and this is official. This is from

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you know, the bulletin of the World Health Organization. You know,

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sometimes you see these, you know, social media posts where

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they'll talk about Bill Gates. I just saw one this morning,

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01:12:18.960 --> 01:12:21.560
and I won't name the outlet, but they just they

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01:12:21.600 --> 01:12:25.960
say things without uh they're like leaps of logic, and

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01:12:26.039 --> 01:12:28.359
they don't you know, show you official documents where it

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01:12:28.399 --> 01:12:30.600
was said. They just sort of rely on hearsay to

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01:12:30.680 --> 01:12:33.960
make a sort of hyperbolic statement in order to get clicks. Well,

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01:12:34.000 --> 01:12:36.159
I'm I'm just reporting to you what comes from the

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official it's called the Bulletin of the World Health Organization.

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01:12:40.439 --> 01:12:43.039
It's it's it's it's an official publication from the World

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01:12:43.079 --> 01:12:47.840
Health Organization. And uh it's confirmed on the document that

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this is Bill Gates funded and it's for a global

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01:12:51.279 --> 01:12:56.359
digital ID. I know you've talked about digital ideas before,

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01:12:56.600 --> 01:13:01.880
and this it's not good because you're a centralizing tracking,

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01:13:01.960 --> 01:13:06.600
you have surveillance concerns. There's also an AI element to this.

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01:13:06.720 --> 01:13:09.640
They're they're really trying to force AI into everything, because

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01:13:09.640 --> 01:13:13.159
that's of course a way that they can centralize and

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01:13:13.239 --> 01:13:17.199
surveill and be aware of every single thing that we

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01:13:17.279 --> 01:13:21.439
do in real time. There's also an aspect that came

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01:13:21.439 --> 01:13:23.920
out from this bulletin of the World Health Organization for

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01:13:23.960 --> 01:13:27.920
their plan for us, these unelected this unelected foreign body.

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01:13:27.960 --> 01:13:30.439
It's plans for us the sovereign nation and the sovereign

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01:13:30.479 --> 01:13:35.920
nations all over the world is a lifelong vaccine tracking system.

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01:13:36.680 --> 01:13:42.000
This is automated cradle to grave traceability. And they say

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01:13:42.000 --> 01:13:46.359
it's for for identifying and targeting the unreached. You know,

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01:13:46.399 --> 01:13:48.600
they couch it in these terms of you know, we

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need to combat you know, misinformation and disinformation. It's not

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01:13:52.920 --> 01:13:55.720
misinformation and disinformation. They just don't like people like me

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01:13:55.920 --> 01:13:58.680
who actually take them at their word and then just

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01:13:58.760 --> 01:14:02.439
publish their their our own words, copy paste verbatim in

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01:14:02.439 --> 01:14:05.840
black and white and it you know, people see how

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01:14:05.920 --> 01:14:08.520
dystopian the World Health Organization.

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Is well and and again what this does and people

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01:14:13.119 --> 01:14:18.479
need to understand here is this is impinging upon your inalienable,

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god given right to freedom, right right.

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Yeah, And and like we you know, they they have

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they have not just plans, they don't just have desire,

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you know, you have that, we have the desired on

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the weekend, you know, we go out with our family

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01:14:35.920 --> 01:14:38.279
and have a nice meal or you know, watch a

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01:14:38.319 --> 01:14:39.720
movie to get you know, those are the kind of

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01:14:39.760 --> 01:14:42.680
desires we have. The kind of desires these people have

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01:14:42.960 --> 01:14:47.119
are to surveil every inch of our life, to know

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01:14:47.199 --> 01:14:51.319
every medical treatment we've ever had, to know what what

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01:14:51.359 --> 01:14:54.600
our blood work looks like at at at any given moment.

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01:14:54.720 --> 01:14:59.079
Those those are their desires and they're actually carrying them out.

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01:14:59.159 --> 01:15:02.039
And these are very powerful people. These are people like

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01:15:02.119 --> 01:15:04.680
Bill Gates, you know, billions of dollars behind him. He

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01:15:04.720 --> 01:15:08.239
has the name clout and you know, I just take

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01:15:08.279 --> 01:15:11.000
him at his word. If he says, you know, the

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01:15:11.640 --> 01:15:14.880
world's population is too high, which he's said over and

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01:15:14.920 --> 01:15:16.920
over and over and over again, and it needs to

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01:15:16.960 --> 01:15:19.159
come down, then I'm you know, I'm going to listen

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01:15:19.199 --> 01:15:22.119
to him and take him at his word and say,

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01:15:22.119 --> 01:15:24.800
these are very rich and powerful people who think that

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that we should not exist.

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01:15:26.720 --> 01:15:30.439
Right well exactly, And because that begins to answer the why,

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Because that's what inquisitive people want to know, is why

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01:15:34.800 --> 01:15:37.760
why do you want to have all this information? You know,

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01:15:37.840 --> 01:15:39.800
to what nd right.

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01:15:39.880 --> 01:15:42.880
Yeah, it's it's never good. I mean, every time you

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01:15:42.880 --> 01:15:46.319
you centralize power, you have a very negative outcome. Like

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01:15:46.359 --> 01:15:49.199
I've like i've you know, said before on this show

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01:15:49.279 --> 01:15:53.279
is everywhere communism and multiple people have said this before.

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01:15:53.279 --> 01:15:56.720
Everybody knows this. Everywhere communism goes these sort of centralizing

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01:15:57.079 --> 01:16:01.199
political ideologies, you just get you get millions and millions

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01:16:01.239 --> 01:16:05.479
of death deaths. They're not good for us. The desire

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01:16:05.600 --> 01:16:11.720
for power like they have is really infinite or never ending,

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01:16:11.720 --> 01:16:16.039
i should say, and we should be paying attention because

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01:16:16.079 --> 01:16:19.640
they have not just the motive, but they have the means,

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01:16:20.319 --> 01:16:23.359
because they have lots of dollar signs behind their names.

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01:16:24.199 --> 01:16:26.640
So the way this is being laid out, it's like

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01:16:26.760 --> 01:16:31.720
humanity is being corralled here, John right, being corralled. And

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01:16:31.720 --> 01:16:33.680
then you can take it to the next step if

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01:16:33.720 --> 01:16:36.279
you want to believe Bill Gates at his word, who

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01:16:36.680 --> 01:16:40.359
earnestly and he makes you know, makes no apology for

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01:16:40.439 --> 01:16:47.119
it in his own elite you know, arrogant mindset. He

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01:16:47.239 --> 01:16:50.199
believes the amount of people that are on the earth

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01:16:50.199 --> 01:16:52.960
today are unsustainable. Well, he said that back when we

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01:16:53.000 --> 01:16:55.560
were two billion. Now we're at eight billion, Okay, and

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01:16:55.600 --> 01:16:58.920
that's the mindset of the eugenesis. And you can call

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01:16:58.960 --> 01:17:01.800
Bill Gates what he is, but to me, this is

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01:17:01.840 --> 01:17:05.680
all indicative of somebody who has a eugenesis mindset. And

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01:17:05.760 --> 01:17:09.319
so we know whether it's Adolf Hitler or others in

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01:17:09.479 --> 01:17:12.560
history who believed that there were too many people around,

1317
01:17:12.760 --> 01:17:16.600
then all of a sudden, you know, extermination became a

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01:17:18.119 --> 01:17:20.880
means to an end that was justified. Right, And all

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01:17:20.920 --> 01:17:23.520
this stuff, all this paperwork with the WHO is doing

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01:17:23.560 --> 01:17:27.800
and setting things up, it's all to set us up,

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01:17:28.239 --> 01:17:30.720
just like what they did in COVID. Because you know,

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01:17:30.800 --> 01:17:34.279
the thing is about these people, as smart as they are,

1323
01:17:35.600 --> 01:17:37.079
They're not that smart, are.

1324
01:17:36.960 --> 01:17:41.600
They, No, but they but they do have a lot

1325
01:17:41.600 --> 01:17:45.720
of money, and so I think that whatever they're lacking

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01:17:45.760 --> 01:17:48.239
in intelligence they can make up for with the with

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01:17:48.279 --> 01:17:52.359
the strong arm of dollar signs. But I'd just like

1328
01:17:52.399 --> 01:18:01.119
to emphasize that all of these these WHO strategies that

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01:18:00.399 --> 01:18:05.239
that they're they're putting forward, they all center around pandemics

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01:18:06.000 --> 01:18:11.640
and they all center specifically around influenza. Even when this

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01:18:11.760 --> 01:18:16.600
report about this coming, the Who's planning for a COVID pandemic,

1332
01:18:16.920 --> 01:18:20.359
they had to force in their influenza, which, of course

1333
01:18:20.399 --> 01:18:23.600
is what bird flu is. So everything that everything that

1334
01:18:23.640 --> 01:18:28.279
they're doing right now is all pointing towards influenza. And

1335
01:18:28.319 --> 01:18:30.720
so if we take if we just remember what happened

1336
01:18:30.760 --> 01:18:34.119
before COVID, they were doing the exact same things before

1337
01:18:34.399 --> 01:18:37.600
before coronavirus they were doing all there were all these

1338
01:18:37.720 --> 01:18:42.720
international organizations doing all these projects talking about pandemics, and

1339
01:18:42.800 --> 01:18:46.520
those happened to be specifically about coronavirus. So if you're

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01:18:46.520 --> 01:18:49.439
paying attention then and if you could read the signs,

1341
01:18:49.479 --> 01:18:52.239
then then you could easily tell, okay, it looks like

1342
01:18:52.359 --> 01:18:57.319
we're going towards coronavirus pandemic. Well, now, if you're looking

1343
01:18:57.319 --> 01:19:00.840
at all the world health organizations moves, they are right

1344
01:19:00.880 --> 01:19:04.079
now focusing not on not on abola, not on Marberg,

1345
01:19:05.039 --> 01:19:09.159
They're focusing specifically on influenza. Governments all over the world

1346
01:19:09.159 --> 01:19:13.520
are pouring money into influenza vaccines as well as pathogen research.

1347
01:19:13.960 --> 01:19:17.319
So that's you've got. You've got guys like former Cdcity

1348
01:19:17.319 --> 01:19:22.439
director Robert Redfield. He's saying that we're looking at a

1349
01:19:22.439 --> 01:19:25.920
coming bird flu pandemic. It is. It's it's in the cards.

1350
01:19:26.000 --> 01:19:28.119
You you can see it in the in the tea leaves,

1351
01:19:28.159 --> 01:19:31.720
every day. So you know, it's good that we're talking

1352
01:19:31.720 --> 01:19:33.439
about these things so we can be prepared.

1353
01:19:34.560 --> 01:19:37.800
So what's uh, what's our move here? John? I mean,

1354
01:19:38.079 --> 01:19:41.640
it looks like it's inevitable because the power structure is

1355
01:19:41.640 --> 01:19:46.840
such and power structure and infrastructure to bring us another pandemic.

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01:19:47.279 --> 01:19:48.920
So what's our move right now?

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01:19:50.159 --> 01:19:54.640
Well, for me as a journalist's exposing them because I

1358
01:19:54.680 --> 01:19:58.000
do not consent to this. You know, like we're we're

1359
01:19:58.079 --> 01:20:02.600
learning that the that the COVID vaccine can be shed

1360
01:20:02.920 --> 01:20:07.600
through uh you know, blood, urine, sweat, you can you

1361
01:20:07.600 --> 01:20:10.960
can sneeze in your saliva. So the COVID vaccine actually

1362
01:20:10.960 --> 01:20:14.119
becomes sort of a self spreading vaccine vaccine because it

1363
01:20:14.159 --> 01:20:20.840
can get into these extracellular vesicles, uh, these exosomes, essentially

1364
01:20:21.359 --> 01:20:23.840
your your body can spread the vaccine like a virus.

1365
01:20:23.880 --> 01:20:26.840
So like, I don't consent to that. And so as

1366
01:20:26.840 --> 01:20:29.039
a journalist when I'm looking at all these things, what

1367
01:20:29.439 --> 01:20:31.479
I do is I try to make it very clear

1368
01:20:31.680 --> 01:20:34.640
and very plain and just show you with their words

1369
01:20:34.640 --> 01:20:38.079
what they say they're doing. Because a very smart man

1370
01:20:38.800 --> 01:20:40.920
a long time ago once said that the truth will

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01:20:40.920 --> 01:20:43.720
set you free. And I believe that we're all in

1372
01:20:43.840 --> 01:20:50.640
bondage to these these you know, government systems, uh, and

1373
01:20:50.760 --> 01:20:54.000
the the different ways that they you know, deploy pathogens

1374
01:20:54.039 --> 01:20:56.319
on us, for example, force us to take vaccines, force

1375
01:20:56.399 --> 01:20:58.359
us to mass do all these lockdown measures to us.

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01:20:58.399 --> 01:21:01.800
So I have, you know, just feel like it's my

1377
01:21:01.920 --> 01:21:04.640
mission to find the things they don't want us to

1378
01:21:04.680 --> 01:21:07.399
find but that they've said, and then make it plain.

1379
01:21:07.560 --> 01:21:09.640
And you're doing that too. And then Bill, it's just

1380
01:21:09.680 --> 01:21:14.600
spreading the word and getting educated about what's going on,

1381
01:21:14.760 --> 01:21:19.119
and then obviously reaching out to your local and national

1382
01:21:19.960 --> 01:21:23.079
elected representatives and letting them know how you feel about

1383
01:21:23.079 --> 01:21:27.920
this stuff. That boots on the ground, grassroots level stuff

1384
01:21:28.119 --> 01:21:31.960
is really how we start turning the tide.

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01:21:32.399 --> 01:21:35.800
Without a doubt, is John Fleetwood from John Fleetwood dot com.

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01:21:36.039 --> 01:21:38.960
Check it out and stay up to date, because it's

1387
01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:44.680
about informed consent. We weren't very well informed, and they

1388
01:21:44.960 --> 01:21:47.079
pulled the consent out of us, so to speak. They

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01:21:47.159 --> 01:21:50.000
kind of forced us and compelled us to go along

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01:21:50.479 --> 01:21:56.239
with with their what we realize now post COVID was

1391
01:21:56.279 --> 01:21:59.199
a diabolical plan. There's no doubt about it. John has

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01:21:59.199 --> 01:22:01.600
always we appreciate the time. Take care, God bless my friend.

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All right, see you bill.

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Hey, good morning America. Good to have you with us,

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Bill Martinez, year and We've got Megan Murphy for this

1458
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talking about stress free holidays. Are you ready for that?

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I had a dear friend of mine, Megan, I had

1460
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to tell you this, and you know, it was about

1461
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twenty years ago. He told me. He introduced me to

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holiday standard time. You know, because during this period of

1463
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time when all the stressed everything. So he had a

1464
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file mentally that he categorized everything during this time of

1465
01:26:03.079 --> 01:26:06.279
year when things got crazy at the mall and you know,

1466
01:26:06.520 --> 01:26:08.840
people diving for the last parking space and all the

1467
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craziness that can go with the holidays, the unfortunate part

1468
01:26:11.760 --> 01:26:14.119
of it. He'd always said, Well, Bill, don't worry, it's

1469
01:26:14.159 --> 01:26:16.359
just holiday standard Time. I said, Dick, why didn't you

1470
01:26:16.359 --> 01:26:19.159
tell me that, you know, forty years earlier or something

1471
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that might have made life a little bit more beeatiful

1472
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for me?

1473
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Right, Holiday standard Time? I like it.

1474
01:26:24.840 --> 01:26:25.239
I like it.

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01:26:25.279 --> 01:26:29.319
Tea Yeah, I'm on AHST friends, I'm on HST.

1476
01:26:29.720 --> 01:26:31.520
Yeah. I think that's a T shirt. I think we'll

1477
01:26:31.520 --> 01:26:33.159
have that with some at least.

1478
01:26:32.920 --> 01:26:35.399
A bumper sticker, Bill, at least a bumper sticker.

1479
01:26:35.600 --> 01:26:39.680
Yeah, exactly. Quit howking, We're we're on the holiday Standard

1480
01:26:39.720 --> 01:26:40.279
time here.

1481
01:26:40.560 --> 01:26:42.680
And we can make it. Okay, So I can't wait

1482
01:26:42.680 --> 01:26:44.560
to tell you about the first thing I want to

1483
01:26:44.560 --> 01:26:48.319
tell you about, because we can make HST mugs, t shirts,

1484
01:26:48.479 --> 01:26:50.920
you name it with the Cricket Joy Extra that I'm

1485
01:26:50.960 --> 01:26:52.079
about to tell you about.

1486
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Okay, I'm taking notes, Go ahead, Okay.

1487
01:26:55.119 --> 01:26:57.279
So I like to think of myself as a hostess

1488
01:26:57.319 --> 01:26:59.279
with the mostest and I love this time of year.

1489
01:26:59.680 --> 01:27:02.680
One of my go to tools is the cricket Joy Extra,

1490
01:27:02.920 --> 01:27:06.199
which is a smart cutting machine. So it's basically like

1491
01:27:06.279 --> 01:27:09.600
an exact O knife on steroids. It's going to let

1492
01:27:09.640 --> 01:27:15.039
you make personalized decore cards, trade boxes, cups with the

1493
01:27:15.199 --> 01:27:17.319
HST on it, you name it, you can do it

1494
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with the Cricket Joy Extra, whether you are a pro

1495
01:27:20.199 --> 01:27:23.000
DII wire or you're a beginner. Because you have the

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01:27:23.239 --> 01:27:26.000
design Space app and that is this all in one

1497
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intuitive platform that really makes it easy. You've got community,

1498
01:27:29.720 --> 01:27:32.560
you've got templates, you've got how to's, you've got images

1499
01:27:33.159 --> 01:27:36.159
all on the Cricket Design Space app, so you can

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really do anything, have some festive fun. And new from

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Cricket is the easy Press Mini LT, which is a

1502
01:27:42.800 --> 01:27:47.720
little heat iron handheld there's no buttons, there's no settings.

1503
01:27:47.720 --> 01:27:50.119
It is so easy to use. You can do you know,

1504
01:27:50.159 --> 01:27:53.039
iron ons. I use it to smooth my place settings

1505
01:27:53.079 --> 01:27:56.079
and my tablecloth. And that's all at Cricket and at

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cri cut dot com.

1507
01:28:00.159 --> 01:28:02.199
And I got to tell you people who have heard

1508
01:28:02.199 --> 01:28:04.239
you on the show before and we've talked about this,

1509
01:28:04.800 --> 01:28:07.560
and you know this, Bill, I'm not really you know,

1510
01:28:07.680 --> 01:28:10.600
all that handy with stuff, but I listened to Megan.

1511
01:28:10.760 --> 01:28:13.560
I did, in fact, go out and the family is

1512
01:28:13.600 --> 01:28:17.680
so involved with this, you know this device. It's amazing

1513
01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:21.800
how it brings the family together. And you know, of

1514
01:28:21.880 --> 01:28:24.800
course you have to supervise the little ones because they

1515
01:28:24.880 --> 01:28:26.159
love to create, don't they.

1516
01:28:27.199 --> 01:28:30.039
So I love that, you know. So I have teenagers now,

1517
01:28:30.159 --> 01:28:32.279
so they'll come to me and be like, Mom, we

1518
01:28:32.319 --> 01:28:35.000
want to do you know, T shirts for the hockey

1519
01:28:35.039 --> 01:28:38.279
tournament over the holidays, and we're like, okay, bust out

1520
01:28:38.319 --> 01:28:40.399
the Cricket Joy extra. We can do that, Like we

1521
01:28:40.439 --> 01:28:43.960
can make anything. So it has become a real family

1522
01:28:44.039 --> 01:28:46.720
fun kind of thing with Team Murphy. I'm just like,

1523
01:28:47.079 --> 01:28:49.800
I love making stuff, right, it just feels so special

1524
01:28:49.800 --> 01:28:50.600
and so personal.

1525
01:28:51.159 --> 01:28:52.960
Well exactly, That's what I was going to say, is

1526
01:28:52.960 --> 01:28:56.439
that the best gifts are the personalized gifts, right, I mean,

1527
01:28:57.000 --> 01:28:58.720
I mean it's easy to go to, so I get that,

1528
01:28:59.000 --> 01:29:01.760
you know, but when it's something that you have created

1529
01:29:01.880 --> 01:29:04.640
and your touch and feel and you know that gift

1530
01:29:04.640 --> 01:29:08.640
that is transferred to another person realizes that, hey, this,

1531
01:29:08.640 --> 01:29:09.479
this came from Megan.

1532
01:29:09.520 --> 01:29:12.119
This is special and you know it wasn't last minute

1533
01:29:12.199 --> 01:29:14.880
right there, Clearly some thought was put into this gift

1534
01:29:15.000 --> 01:29:18.199
because you know, it's custom, it's personalized. There's a lot

1535
01:29:18.239 --> 01:29:20.840
of thought and effort here, and I think that's really meaningful.

1536
01:29:21.720 --> 01:29:25.199
Well, let's talk about your number one go to holiday

1537
01:29:25.600 --> 01:29:26.880
hosting tip for this year.

1538
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So listen, I want to elevate your dessert table and

1539
01:29:30.239 --> 01:29:32.000
I want to make it easy for you, especially if

1540
01:29:32.000 --> 01:29:36.159
you don't feel like baking. So President whip crem So

1541
01:29:36.279 --> 01:29:39.319
this is fancy. It is Chantilly recipe. Yes that's French.

1542
01:29:39.640 --> 01:29:41.840
And know there is no corn syrup in this product.

1543
01:29:41.920 --> 01:29:45.399
There is extra creamy or madagas carbonilla, and it has

1544
01:29:45.640 --> 01:29:49.000
restaurant style textures. So you are going to get these

1545
01:29:49.079 --> 01:29:53.119
perfect peaks that you can put on the store blood pie.

1546
01:29:53.439 --> 01:29:55.960
No one's gonna know the difference. And it looks elevated

1547
01:29:56.039 --> 01:30:00.359
and fabulous. On berries, on whatever you're serving that you

1548
01:30:00.359 --> 01:30:03.520
didn't make. Nobody needs to know. My family, we will

1549
01:30:03.560 --> 01:30:06.720
also squirt. When we're not squirting the president of Kreme

1550
01:30:06.800 --> 01:30:09.239
in mouth. We do put it. We put it on

1551
01:30:09.319 --> 01:30:12.960
our bark. Our peppermint bark from Ghara Deelli. Isn't even

1552
01:30:13.079 --> 01:30:16.479
Christmas without Gearedelli peppermint bark. I mean to me this

1553
01:30:16.960 --> 01:30:19.760
I love like I love a seasonal offering. Like to me,

1554
01:30:20.159 --> 01:30:22.600
once the Ghara Delli Peppermint Bark comes out like, it

1555
01:30:22.800 --> 01:30:25.760
feels like it's official, it's.

1556
01:30:25.680 --> 01:30:28.920
A start your engines. Let's go right.

1557
01:30:29.399 --> 01:30:32.439
And another little hack here. I have nothing against store

1558
01:30:32.520 --> 01:30:35.960
block cupcakes. Get the store block cupcakes, save yourself some time.

1559
01:30:36.399 --> 01:30:40.439
But then unwrap your gill geara Delli peppermint bark squares

1560
01:30:40.760 --> 01:30:43.399
and use it as a topper in the cupcake. All

1561
01:30:43.399 --> 01:30:46.039
of a sudden, it looks like bakery level. All you

1562
01:30:46.159 --> 01:30:48.640
did was open the Ghara Delli Peppermint bark and stick

1563
01:30:48.720 --> 01:30:52.239
it in the cupcake. Yay to they, everybody wins. I

1564
01:30:52.439 --> 01:30:55.039
also love this for gifting, so I give this to

1565
01:30:55.119 --> 01:30:58.720
my kids teachers. I love my mail carrier, she's getting

1566
01:30:58.880 --> 01:31:05.000
gheared Delli peppermint. My ups my Amazon, my, my garbage collectors.

1567
01:31:05.199 --> 01:31:08.439
I mean, they all are getting Garret Delly peppermint.

1568
01:31:08.039 --> 01:31:10.800
Work, I know, and the Amazon porch pirates saying, hey,

1569
01:31:10.800 --> 01:31:11.399
where's mine?

1570
01:31:12.760 --> 01:31:15.359
You know what, I leave a little bowl on my

1571
01:31:15.520 --> 01:31:18.720
front porch of giveaway to make everybody's holiday season a

1572
01:31:18.760 --> 01:31:19.479
little bit sweeter.

1573
01:31:20.039 --> 01:31:22.319
Right, of course, I jest about the porch pirates, but

1574
01:31:22.800 --> 01:31:24.239
I think it's kind of fun with some of them.

1575
01:31:24.439 --> 01:31:25.960
You know, some of the people have come up with

1576
01:31:26.079 --> 01:31:27.399
with those exploding boxes.

1577
01:31:28.079 --> 01:31:30.399
Oh my goodness, not in my neighborhood, thank goodness.

1578
01:31:30.600 --> 01:31:33.399
Yeah, well, thank god. But yes, you know, because this

1579
01:31:33.560 --> 01:31:36.880
is the giving season and I love that you're considered.

1580
01:31:36.920 --> 01:31:39.760
And the thing is is that you know, little tips

1581
01:31:39.880 --> 01:31:42.079
like this. I mean, it's not like you're going breaking

1582
01:31:42.159 --> 01:31:43.319
the bank, right.

1583
01:31:43.399 --> 01:31:44.760
Oh no, you don't have to.

1584
01:31:44.880 --> 01:31:46.720
I mean, like make it simple.

1585
01:31:47.039 --> 01:31:49.119
You know, you don't have to be frozzled in frantic

1586
01:31:49.159 --> 01:31:53.119
and holidays. There are simple solutions to make everything easier.

1587
01:31:53.279 --> 01:31:56.439
We have to really put the joy back in this season.

1588
01:31:56.479 --> 01:31:59.239
That's why my shirt says joy right exactly.

1589
01:31:59.600 --> 01:32:02.439
Well, you know, just sometimes we need to be reminded

1590
01:32:02.560 --> 01:32:05.359
so that when we drift away from it, we realize no, no, no,

1591
01:32:06.079 --> 01:32:08.600
we're back to joy we readjust we get back there.

1592
01:32:09.640 --> 01:32:11.760
What other thoughts do you have gift ideas.

1593
01:32:12.039 --> 01:32:14.319
I've got a great gift idea. And I thought this

1594
01:32:14.520 --> 01:32:17.720
was so clever and so unique. I've never seen anything

1595
01:32:17.920 --> 01:32:20.920
like it. So it is the bird Buddy. It is

1596
01:32:21.119 --> 01:32:25.319
a smart bird feeder pro. It's the very first smart

1597
01:32:25.399 --> 01:32:29.239
bird feeder, and it snaps the most stunning images of

1598
01:32:29.319 --> 01:32:31.479
all the feathered friends that land on your feeter, and

1599
01:32:31.560 --> 01:32:34.800
it identifies them. Then it uses the app. It's so cool,

1600
01:32:35.079 --> 01:32:37.079
so Bill, then it takes it has an app and

1601
01:32:37.159 --> 01:32:38.920
send it to your phone, and then you get these

1602
01:32:38.960 --> 01:32:42.199
little digital postcards of the birds identified that you can

1603
01:32:42.279 --> 01:32:45.279
share with family and friends around the world. I think

1604
01:32:45.359 --> 01:32:48.000
this is just so brilliant. I'm giving it to my mother,

1605
01:32:48.359 --> 01:32:50.640
my mother in law, my aunt Sheila, so I hope

1606
01:32:50.640 --> 01:32:54.039
they're not tuning in and right now at birdbuddy dot

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1608
01:32:57.199 --> 01:33:01.000
specific one. I just think such a unique, fabulous gift.

1609
01:33:01.800 --> 01:33:04.239
I love that because I do it, you know, not

1610
01:33:04.359 --> 01:33:07.039
quite that sophisticatedly. I just put the seed out and

1611
01:33:07.159 --> 01:33:09.840
let the birds come, and we get a plethora of birds.

1612
01:33:09.880 --> 01:33:12.560
Here in Florida, and so you know, I just do that.

1613
01:33:12.640 --> 01:33:15.760
My wife says, stop doing it, but I can't help myself.

1614
01:33:15.840 --> 01:33:18.279
I just I love being able to do that. And

1615
01:33:18.439 --> 01:33:20.279
what I like about this is that, you know, it

1616
01:33:20.359 --> 01:33:22.720
captures the pictures. Then I get the cricket and I

1617
01:33:22.800 --> 01:33:25.560
do a card with the picture of right.

1618
01:33:26.039 --> 01:33:28.399
Oh my gosh, you're ta Yes, I love that idea.

1619
01:33:28.760 --> 01:33:31.920
I mean, this is the shareable aspect of this. You know,

1620
01:33:32.279 --> 01:33:34.479
cardinals are very special in my family. To be able

1621
01:33:34.560 --> 01:33:37.359
to capture a cardinal on your bird, buddy, and then

1622
01:33:37.479 --> 01:33:39.399
send it to the whole family group chat. I mean

1623
01:33:39.439 --> 01:33:40.680
it's like next level group chat.

1624
01:33:41.039 --> 01:33:44.439
Oh yeah, exactly. And again this is all you know, Megan,

1625
01:33:44.520 --> 01:33:46.840
what I always love about our time together is that

1626
01:33:47.000 --> 01:33:53.159
everything is personalized. And you are joy. You are joy

1627
01:33:53.239 --> 01:33:58.159
because you come with this you know, sense of giving,

1628
01:33:58.479 --> 01:34:00.600
you know, and we always have heard that it's better

1629
01:34:00.720 --> 01:34:01.680
to give than receive.

1630
01:34:02.800 --> 01:34:02.920
Uh.

1631
01:34:03.039 --> 01:34:05.479
And I appreciate you that you have that heart. You

1632
01:34:05.640 --> 01:34:08.600
have that heart of giving, and it's such a blessing

1633
01:34:08.840 --> 01:34:10.880
and uh. And of course, you know the other thing

1634
01:34:11.000 --> 01:34:12.479
is is we have to have the other people too,

1635
01:34:12.840 --> 01:34:16.119
the people that receive, right, because that's the circle you know,

1636
01:34:16.199 --> 01:34:19.199
you give and you receive, and because what happens a

1637
01:34:19.239 --> 01:34:21.880
lot of times when you're a recipient, then you can't

1638
01:34:21.920 --> 01:34:23.319
help but become a giver yourself.

1639
01:34:23.600 --> 01:34:25.720
Right, I love that. And you know what I always say,

1640
01:34:25.960 --> 01:34:28.880
and I'll say it again, is the best present is

1641
01:34:29.000 --> 01:34:31.279
to be present. So if any of this stresses you

1642
01:34:31.319 --> 01:34:34.079
out and you're feeling a little holidays, just be present

1643
01:34:34.159 --> 01:34:36.520
for your family and your loved ones and remember that's

1644
01:34:36.600 --> 01:34:37.880
the true joy of the season.

1645
01:34:38.319 --> 01:34:41.880
Exactly minute left, Let's remind everybody of the highlights of

1646
01:34:41.920 --> 01:34:42.680
what we talked about.

1647
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1649
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1650
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1652
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Good morning, welcome back. Good to have you with us.

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Bill Martinez here, and Elon Bento is with us. He's

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the writer and co director of this new documentary, The

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True Cost of Defense. Elon, welcome to the show. Good

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to have you with us.

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Thanks very much.

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Bill.

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Well, you're the writer co director of the True Cost

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of Defense. It's an our documentary. As I mentioned, it

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peels back layers of the US defense budget, revealing it's

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deep at deepest cost, the human one. What brought this,

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Elon to your attention? To you and your production partner

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Kit Perry. Sure.

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You know, like many people, Kip and I have looked

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at these pie charts of the defense budgets, but into

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all these different slices, each with different categories, and we

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were curious what really went into those categories. That's sort

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of what sparked it. And then we expanded our focus

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beyond what is strictly the defense budget out into things

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that are peripheral to the defense budget but are closely

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bound with our military, things like the Veterans Affairs budget,

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money that is donated to charitable organizations and support of

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veterans and military families, things like that, and you see

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that the total cost goes up quite a bit. And

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from there we just wanted to dig into what is

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being spent on what and why.

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When you broke the budget down and realized that maybe

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the top line what's being reported is about bullets and guns,

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not necessarily the human cost, and certainly the post war

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human cost.

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Right, that's right. A lot of people tend to fixate

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on things like fighter jets and aircraft carriers, which are expensive,

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but those costs pale in comparison to, as you said,

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the recruiting and the training and housing and maintaining the military,

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and then all the costs that go into post retirement

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or you know, leaving the military, healthcare and pensions and

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things like that. And so we spent a lot of

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time doing that. We went to Sacramento, California, and spent

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time with some marine recruiters, went to for still some

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Army basic training. I went to different duty stations, saw

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spend time with deployed troops abroad, and and then spent

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time with veterans severely injured and otherwise to discuss their

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their pensions and medical care and what they felt was

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was good and what they felt, you know, came up short.

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Elin when you, as you did your investigation in all

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these interviews in putting this documentary together, the true cost

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of defense? Was there a bigger number that you came

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up with as opposed to what's being reported to the

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American people in terms of the cost of our defense. Sure.

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I mean when you take into things, you know, money

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spent by the State Department, money spent by the Department

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of Energy, the VA charitable donate, you know, donations to charities,

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all of these things, everything having to do with the military. Uh,

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you know, you start to approach one and a half

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trillion dollars and it's all sort of part of the

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same picture. So having the military that the US has

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ultimately costs quite a bit more than than just that

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that eight hundred plus billion.

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Right exactly, because the goal is is in order to

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protect the freedom in this great American idea, it comes

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at a grave cost. And we've demonstrated that, you know,

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time and again, have we not.

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Yeah, that's that's right. I Mean, ultimately, a message that

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we came across multiple times was when you look at

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our budget and the amount of money that the US spends,

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especially compared to kind of near Peers China, Russia. The

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goal is not parody, you know, the goal is sort

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of overwhelming superiority. And the reason for that is not

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just to win wars, but to deter them. Ultimately far

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costlier in terms of money and lives to fight a

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war than it is to maintain a military that can

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help the United States avoid one entirely.

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Right, And I think this is what we're realizing, you know,

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currently with as many wars that are out there, and

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I think you know, it's estimated there's nineteen wars right

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now happening around the world. Of course, a lot of

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eyes on Ukraine and Russia, and we see the costs

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there in humanity, not to mention just the raw cost

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you know, bullets and armaments and all that that just

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keeps mounting up. And to your point, going to war

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is a very expensive proposition.

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Yeah, absolutely, I mean, look at obviously you see different

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numbers when it comes to lives lost over in Ukraine,

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but it is and should be unimaginable to Americans to

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lose that many lives fighting a war. And that's certainly

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what a war that the US could be involved in

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could look like right, And so if a lot of

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money can be spent to try and save that off,

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it seems like a good investment.

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Yeah, without a doubt, because I mean, look at there's

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been a lot of conversation about the military industrial complex,

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and you know what they're there for. It's you know,

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they're there to execute wars, to spend you know, military budgets.

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You know.

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But like you said, if we can avoid a war

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and we do this, you know, by having the build

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up that we have to deter people from wanting to

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go to war with America, and if we have like

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this current president is doing, leveraging America's influence to keep

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people from going to war, I got I gotta believe

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that's a good thing.

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Well, avoiding war is definitely a good thing. I think

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everyone would would certainly agree with that. We did spend

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you know, you mentioned the military industrial complex, and we

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do have a section on procurement developments, things pertaining to

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the defense industry, and we tried to look at that

1846
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also from all sorts of angles. One, you know, hearing

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the arguments for and against the amount of spending and

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and the fact that most of it gets funneled one

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way or another through a handful of companies, which is

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a relatively new development over the course of American history.

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But also looking at the communities impacted by these jobs.

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You know, in certain places in Norfolk, Virginia, all sorts

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of places across the country. You've got generations of people

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that have earned money for their families and had it

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flow into their communities because they work in these jobs.

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And so you can see how the reduction of military

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spending also would really impact just your average Americans. So

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that's an interesting thing to consider as well. It's not

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just the Boeings and Raypeons that stand to lose something

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from reduced military spending, all the folks that work for them.

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Some two million people work in the aerospace and shipbuilding industries.

1862
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Well. The documentary is currently streaming on YouTube and rolling

1863
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out on public TV stations nationwide. True Cause of Defense

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explores the costly, human and financial side of keeping the

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US and its allies safe. What do you want the

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audience to take away from this elon after they viewed this.

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Sure, you know, we didn't go into this project with

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the hope of initiating some sort of policy change. Our

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overriding goal was to inform the American public as much

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as possible about defense spending so that they could be

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more adequately prepared to enact whatever change they want when

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it comes to their vote.

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Did you conclude that we're spending the right amount of money?

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I mean, because you've done I mean, this is such

1875
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a great job in what you've done in this documentary

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and laying out you know, the true cost of defense.

1877
01:48:53.479 --> 01:48:55.319
And as you said, you know, you took a look

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at the supply chain. How this affects you know, millions

1879
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of people that support the uh, you know, support our

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military in our defense.

1881
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Well, you know, as an American, you hope that when

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you dig into the defense industry and the military itself,

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that you find that it is being competently run by

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competent folks. And I was pleased, at least in our

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experience to find that. We were very impressed. We were

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impressed by the enlisted personnel, the young people operate, and

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you know, making the military run right. We were impressed

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by the technology that we witnessed and the maintaining of

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that technology. So, as ultimately a layman, it was hard

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for me to point my finger at an evening and

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say this is a waste of money, especially when it

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comes to people. And I was very impressed by the standards,

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may by those marine recruiters we spent time with. I

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was impressed by the recruits themselves all the way through

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the You know, young tank commander that we saw in Poland,

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she was in her early twenties and she was extremely

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sharp and impressive and so across the board.

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Well, I love and I love the part that you

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brought out, Elon, that she had her tank, her tank

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that she trained with, was was shipped to Poland and

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was ready to go. I mean, it's it is impressive

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to think about how our military operates. There's lots of

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layers that are involved here. We've got to leave it there.

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Elon Bento is the writer and co director of the

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True Cost of Defense. It's a one hour documentary that

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is on YouTube right now and you'll be able to

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see it on public TV as well. Is there a

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website that people can go to Elon for more information?

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Yeah, if you go to Free to Choosemedia dot org,

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you can see the documentary there, or you can just

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look up The True Cost of Defense on YouTube.

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Well, very good, Elon, Benjel, Thank you so much. For

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being with us. He's the writer and co director of

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the True Cost of Defense. Thank you, Elon.

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Thank great job.

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Appreciate it. Take care.

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