Nov. 25, 2025

The Bill Martinez Show 11 25 25

The Bill Martinez Show 11 25 25
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The Bill Martinez Show 11 25 25
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Are you ready? Yeah, Okay, let's do it.

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Ill Martinas Live a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Well, good morning. Six minutes after the top of the hour.

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It's Tuesday, November the twenty fifth, and we're excited. This

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is all in preparation of Thanksgiving week, and we've got

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lots to talk about that, but right now, I want

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to focus on a lot of the chatter over the

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weekend that's still people are talking about and scratching their

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head and wondering what the heck is going on. And

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I'd say, at the top of the list, of course

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you got Marjorie Taylor Green's resignation.

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But you know, I think even.

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More significant still is these Democratic lawmakers who decided that

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they need to put a video together and warn the

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military to be aware that they do not have to

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follow and unlawful order. I mean, this is you know,

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as we talked about last week, this border sedition. It's

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so inappropriate on so many ways, and it's the same

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old thing that Democrats have been doing to Donald Trump.

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And we the people seventy seven million people who voted

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for Donald Trump, but the Democrats can't help themselves. I mean,

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if Republicans did anything like this against Joe Biden or

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Barack Obama, you know.

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All hell would be breaking loose.

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But the audacity and the arrogance of these lawmakers, I mean,

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you got to be kidding me. They have military or

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national security backgrounds, and they release the video here last

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week urging US service members and intelligent personnel to refuse

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unlawful orders. I mean, this is like one of the

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impeachments that we went through, right, you remember that over Ukraine,

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and there was some supposedly some unlawful orders and basically

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what all came down to was a humans It was

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a human resource issue. They should have been handed on

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that level, not in the in the realm of an

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impeachment that cost we the people millions of dollars in

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what did we get out of it? Nothing other than

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you just saw, you know how Braddy uh and entitled

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even some military officers, which you know at that point,

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I mean, you're you're breaking with the chain of command

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in which some cases that was the that was the

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case if you remember uh and Uh you know, and

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what they did to this country was all about bruising

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Donald Trump bruising as followers so that he'd be set up.

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I mean, they had invalidated his election from day one.

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And in spite of that, look a look what Donald

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Trump was able to accomplish on behalf of the American people.

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And it just galled them because it was stuff that

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they could not do because they're ill equipped. The Democrats

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just do not have the capacity to solve problems because

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their way of solving problems is you just go to

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the treasury and you steal it out of the Bank

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of the People's treasury and then you you know, you

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buy off votes and you create all these entitlement programs

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and deepen a dependency class.

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And how's that working for?

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I mean, right now we're at a point where it's

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got fifty percent of the people are working and the

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other fifty are taking. And I'm not talking about the

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people who have every bit of right of entitlement, you know,

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whether it's Social Security or Medicare that they paid into,

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they have every right for it, and that's not an entitlement.

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I'm talking about people who just flat out are capable

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of working, but the government has said, look at vote

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for me, and you don't have to work. And you know,

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the sad part of it all is that what they've

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done is they've subordinated, you know, the value of their lives.

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You know, what do you got five six decades of

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quality service and time to go out and be productive

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and make some of yourself for yourself and for your family.

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And instead all that talent and gift things that you've

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been blessed with has been subordinated to a group of

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politicians that say, look at you can count on us,

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you know, we'll take care of you, we'll provide for you. Well,

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how did that government shut down work for you? Did

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they provide for you? Did they take care of you

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during the stressful times?

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No?

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They abandon you, because that's what they do. I mean,

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you've got to see them for what they are. They're frauds.

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It's all about power and control, it's about their reelection.

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It's not about any suffering and about providing for you.

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And then you get these same people who tell the military, hey,

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we'll watch your back. You know, we'll take care of you.

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You know if you get in trouble for in disobeying

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what you think is an illegal and unlawful order.

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I mean, really, are you kidding?

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Me.

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Do you think these representatives, senators and congressmen are going

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to show up at a at a hearing of dischargement

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of the military, a court martial. You think they're gonna

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show up, They're gonna watch your back. You think they're

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gonna do fundraising for these people because it's going to

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be expensive.

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For them to defend themselves. Come on, you gotta be

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kidding me. These guys are all frauds.

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And I say guys in the general sense because there's

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women involved here too, that they just hate Donald Trump

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so much that they'll do anything to create problems at

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the risk of putting in jeopardy. Are young military soldiers

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who are in the military. They you know, they raise

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their hand to take an oath of office, an oath

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of enlistment that never expires till the dead day they die.

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That oath is still in play, and here they confuse them.

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I mean, look at it. I'm and I served in

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the military during Vietnam. I did go to country, my

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two brothers did, and I was fortunate enough.

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Again, I guess you could say it's kind.

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Of a mixed mixed bag here of saying maybe it's

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good that I didn't you know, I wish I had,

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you know, kind of thing, but I didn't. I did

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not go to Vietnam, but I was around a lot

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of Vietnam veterans. And Vietnam was so confusing because you

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had a lot of opinions. There was violation of military

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structure and command and control, and it was subordinated to

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you know, a lot of civilians that were constructing and

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dictating the means of engagement and the way the war

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was handled. I mean, it was just a hot, hot mess.

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In fact, if you get a chance, you need to

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read the book Precious Freedom James Bradley just released. In fact,

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we interviewed him last week and that is must hear

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interview and a must read book. Talks about Vietnam in

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a way that has never been presented before. You know,

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James actually went to Vietnam and really understood and you know,

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gained in understanding the ethos and the strategy of the

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Vietnamese and why they won the war.

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And it grieves me.

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I'll tell you, it's hard for me to say the

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Vietnamese won the war. But the fact of the matter

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is is little Vietnam, you know, there they are, They

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they kicked the formidable, number one military force on the planets.

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But they they absolutely embarrassed America who thought, just like

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anything like all these you know, these neo cons and

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you know these warmongers who think, oh, well, you know,

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we're big, bad and we've got all this military power

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and we'll go take care of a problem in a

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couple of days. Sometimes that's the case, but sometimes it's not,

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and especially when you don't understand, and clearly we didn't

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understand what was going on in Vietnam.

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So excuse me.

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If I'm a little a little concerned when I see

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people outside of the military room, even though they may

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have some military or national security big background.

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So what you know, unless you're dealing.

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With it every day and you understand all the nuances

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of what's going on, you may have some historical relevance.

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But as it relates today, as things always change on

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the battleground, I don't want to hear from these people,

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certainly not in this context. I know that Trump had

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said that there should be something, you know, severely done

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to them, I'd say, at the least for what they

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did in harming our military and harming our soldiers. And

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this is a harm to them and by you know,

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bringing in some confusion for the sake of politics. They

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need to be severely censured because this is nothing short

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of sedition. I know that's severe and it may be

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hard for you to hear, but you've got to call

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it out for what it is.

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We've got to go to break. Stay with us. We've

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That email is working again. For a while it was down.

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We found out over the weekend that our email had

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been hacked, and so a lot of emails and communications

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that were supposed to come to me, God only knows

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where they're at. They could be in India, Peru. I

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don't know, but they didn't come to me. But anyway,

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we got that all cleared up. Now I had to

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go through all kinds of history onics. So feel free

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to drop me a line. I'd love to hear from you,

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and love to hear your opinion on this, because we're

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going to continue to pursue the truth on your behalf,

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because the truth matters. And you know, all this stuff

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that's going on in d C, this battle for control

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and power, I mean, this is not serving we the people,

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you know, for all the money that we're investing in this.

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This is ridiculous.

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And as I said going into the break, you know,

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I believe that Senator Elisa Slotkin, Senator Mark Kelly, Representative

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Jason Crowe, Rep. Chris Deluzios, Maggie Goodlander, and Representative Chrissy

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Hulahan at least should be severely censured for what they said.

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Because even over the weekend, when asked directly by Martha Raddis,

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Elisa Slotkin when asked, okay, what about.

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An unlawful order?

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You know, is there is there been an unlawful order

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that has been rendered? Well, you know, she had to

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fess up and say, no, there hasn't. But it's just

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you know, kind of that well just in case, and

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you know, let's talk about what's going on with immigration

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and you know these other fuzzy things that the courts

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are involved in already and whether or not they're.

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Lawful or unlawful.

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And oh yeah, by the way, he had seventy seven

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million people when it comes to immigration, really giving Trump

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a mandate to say, look at we need to clear

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up this immigration mess. In fact, I don't think the

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people realized how bad immigration was. I think some people

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in areas where it was impacted, which are in these

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immigrant communities Spanish speaking mostly I'd say Spanish speaking mostly

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because people that's where they go. Birds of a feather

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flock together, so they go where there's the language exchange, right,

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and so they were nesting in these areas. So these communities,

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these Hispanic communities, felt the pain and impact of this immediately.

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Impact that involved danger and crime in their neighborhoods. Crime

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that they had, you know, their daughters being taken away

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and raped and you know, sold off into sex trafficking rings.

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You had drug cartels coming in mass in greater numbers

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than they had before.

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You had the.

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Impact of home availability, rental availability, because now all of

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a sudden, you got millions of people anywhere. I mean,

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look at the number estimated to maybe as high as

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twenty million illegal immigrants coming in. Where do you think

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they're going to go? You know, they need places to stay,

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they need roofs over their head, and so they're impacting

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these communities. So all of a sudden, now there's a

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lot of pressure for rental homes that are already already

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in an anemic position because of government regulations and cost

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of living inflation, everything that we went through under the

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Biden administration for four years, which Donald Trump is trying

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to clean up. So these local communities felt this immediately.

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And Donald Trump and his travels during the campaign realized

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that affordability was a huge issue. In fact, I mean,

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he was the one that brought it up initially. The

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Democrats were, you know, they were mia on that topic.

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And it's kind of surprising. I got to tell you

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that a socialist in New York brings back affordability and

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as if he's capturing you know, capturing the headline here,

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but he's done nothing. You know, he talks about what

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he can possibly do about affordability. But he doesn't have

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the power, he doesn't have the wherewithal, he doesn't have

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the economic engine to back up the checks that he's writing.

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Those checks are going to bounce, I'm telling you. And

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this is why he went to DC to meet with

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Donald Trump, because he knows, in his heart of hearts,

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he needs Donald Trump even though he's fighting, you know, philosophically,

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head to head socialism against capitalism.

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But guess who's got the money.

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He's got to go where the money is, and the

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capitalists have the money. And he's hoping that he can

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get some money so that he can continue to fool

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the million people that voted for him in New York

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to think that socialism is the way to go. But

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it's going to be interesting because in the midst of that,

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you've got all these capitalistic moves that Donald Trump has

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been employing on be after the people, whether it's you know,

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trade and leveling out. You know, we've been saying this

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for decades, that we needed to make trade fair and

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h and free. Okay, When when I was talking with

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Mike Cuckobee, I when he was running for president, I

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think was in eight I'd mentioned to him because he

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was a supporter of free trade. But I said what

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about fair trade? And it was amazing. I mean it

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was like he had no. I mean it was like crickets.

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And I'm surprised. I mean, here's a Republican, he's a governor,

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smart guy, and I don't know. It's just like he

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never thought about fair trade. It's just like, Okay, we're

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gonna have free trade. And it's just hey, this is

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the way it's gone. We've done this stuff with China.

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They're been taken advantage of us all the time. All

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these other countries have been taking advantage of us. I

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guess it's okay, you know, but you know we'll have

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we'll have free trade. Well, no, you need free and

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fair trade. They need to run concurrent. And so Donald Trump,

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smart enough as a business guy who has seen this,

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said no, we're going to have free and fair trade.

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So we're going to level out the playing field. So

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you got this coming to play. You got the big

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beautiful bill, no tax on tips, you got no tax

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on social security, all these great things that are in

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that bundle, in that big beautiful bill, which the Democrats

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went after and they wanted to basically neoter.

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When they shut the government down.

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That was their big attempt because they know that that big,

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beautiful bill, which is you know a lot of this

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is going to come into play in first quarter of

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next year, is going to be a reality for everybody

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going into the.

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Mid term election.

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Say wow, I guess Donald Trump and the Rugans really

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knew what they were doing and already just I mean,

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look at if gas wasn't going down, if you weren't

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paying less for eggs. Speaking of Thanksgiving, Thanksgiving according to

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I think walmartin Target says, this is you know, we're

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going to say probably fifteen percent over, you know, for

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our Thanksgiving dinner.

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Then we paid last year.

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You know, hey, these are all indicators that things are

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moving in the right direction. The jobs numbers, they were

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only supposed to be about fifty thousand last month, and

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in the midst of a government shutdown, they overperformed. I mean,

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what one hundred and fifty thousand new jobs and we're

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not talking government jobs. Seeing with Biden, any new jobs report,

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most of them were coming he was expanding the government,

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so he was just hiring people to make the government bigger.

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And we think, oh, it's doing so well, because we

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were putting these people to work. Well yeah, but in

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the wrong direction. We need people involved in private, not public.

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We need them involved in the private that is the heartbeat,

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and the true growth of an economy is what's happening there,

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not something that the government is utilizing on taxpayer money.

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So anyway, all that being said, this is what again,

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I'm incensed.

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Being a former marine and I say a former marine

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and still a marine, because once you're a marine, you're

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always a marine.

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You know. My heart is with the military and with.

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These young people who are vested in the military terry,

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who raised their hand, took an oath of enlistment, and

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we need to do everything to support them, not kneecap

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them for the sake of politics. Our military is a

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political and that needs to be a verboden ground when

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it comes to Democrats thinking they can infuse their opinion

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because there's nothing there. Because, as I mentioned, even Elise

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Slotkin had to admit when asked directly, okay, you did

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this about law, Where's what unlawful order? What order has

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Trump given that is unlawful? And it was like she

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couldn't come up with anything. Neither one of them, not

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any one of the six could come up with any

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unlawful order but for their opinion. And you know what

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they say about opinions, and especially in the realm of politics.

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Boy, everybody has one. It's cheap.

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But you know, where are the facts? And this is

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the problem with the political process, This is the problem

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with our country today. It's you know, as I've said,

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in the absence of fact, opinion rules. And for many years,

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the mainstream media was disinterested. They weren't even curious about

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discerning the difference between fact and opinion, much less the truth.

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And this is why we are here where we are,

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and this is why we need you.

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We need every citizen of this country to take an

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oath of office, an oath of office as a citizen

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of this country, to pursue the truth, to again re

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engage with the truth. The truth matters, The truth does exist.

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It is not relative. It's either the truth or it's

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not be curious enough to ask that critical question whatever

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it is that they throw up there. And of course,

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with this season, and as the Trump Arrangement syndrome continues

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to whirl around in full gear, you've got to ask

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yourself every time that something comes up does it add

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or take away from the Constitution. That's the question that

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you must hold in your heart and in your mind,

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and especially in these critical days ahead as we continue

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to get this country back on track and realize a

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really a golden age that I believe is really attainable

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for all Americans, regardless of party, because this isn't a

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party deal.

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This is an American deal. That's what's most important. And

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I stay with us. We've got more coming up right

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Welcome morning, and welcome back Bill Martinez here and all.

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Do we got a treat from you? This is becoming

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an annual event. I love talking to you guys every time.

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About this year.

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I mean, they're on the Mayflower too, and we're going

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to talk about Thanksgiving Plymouth Rock.

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And we've got.

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Historians Richard Pickering and Mayflower descendant and Plymot tourism official

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00:28:25.559 --> 00:28:26.839
Lee Philson joining us.

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Now.

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Good morning, welcome to show. Good to have you with us.

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Good morning, good happy Thanksgiving.

517
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Good to be with you again exactly well, with Thanksgiving

518
00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:37.079
right around the corner, So is all the attention turning

519
00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:39.400
to Plymouth Massachusetts as it should.

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We put our hand over our hearts every time we

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say that.

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It's the place where four and four years ago the

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Mayflower Pilgrims held a harvest feast to celebrate their first

524
00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:52.920
successful growing season. Preparations now full swing for Plymouth Big

525
00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:56.799
annual Thanksgiving Parade, where you're going to see floats commemorating

526
00:28:56.839 --> 00:29:02.079
the historical origins of America's old holiday, Richard, Are you excited?

527
00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:03.920
I am.

528
00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:07.599
I haven't had a Thanksgiving with my family in decades.

529
00:29:08.359 --> 00:29:12.720
But for me, having the privilege of helping families build

530
00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:16.480
that indelible memory that's going to bring them all together,

531
00:29:16.559 --> 00:29:18.039
that's a huge privilege.

532
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:21.400
Yes, exactly. Well, Lee keeps tempting me. She keeps saying

533
00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:23.640
she's going to bring me out there so that we.

534
00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:27.279
Can do the show live. And I'm still waiting. I'm

535
00:29:27.319 --> 00:29:30.079
still waiting for my official invitation. Lee, by the way,

536
00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:31.400
but don't right away.

537
00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:32.680
Can you come this year?

538
00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:34.640
Yeah?

539
00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:37.440
Oh, I'd love to, you know, And I say that

540
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:40.480
every year because it just sounds so exciting and I

541
00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:43.519
love history, and here we are, I mean the epicenter

542
00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:44.880
of American history.

543
00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:48.839
Right, yes, I mean we are America's hometown And the

544
00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:52.400
reason we're America's hometown is because this is the very

545
00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:56.000
place that that ship Mayflower sailed across to the New Land.

546
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And when everyone disembarked, instead of just traders and hunters

547
00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:03.960
and men who were there to do nothing but do business,

548
00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:07.759
instead you saw complete families get off the ship and

549
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actually settle a place that then grew into the America.

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And there it is today. I mean, how unbelievable, Richard.

551
00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:17.720
You say, you missed your family, but it's well worthwhile,

552
00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:20.799
you say, because you know Plymouth. I mean, you may

553
00:30:20.799 --> 00:30:23.599
not be your family, but you're right there with something

554
00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:26.480
that's iconically synonymous with Thanksgiving.

555
00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:27.240
Right exactly.

556
00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:31.519
And when I host Thanksgiving dinners here at the museum,

557
00:30:31.599 --> 00:30:35.759
I say to people, you are having the same meal

558
00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:39.720
that was served at Harvard the year that President Lincoln

559
00:30:39.720 --> 00:30:44.480
declared the first national Thanksgiving in decades. But you're sitting

560
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at a table with strangers. And those that were at

561
00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:51.200
the first Thanksgiving couldn't speak to one another. The English

562
00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:54.759
didn't speak Wampanog. Only a handful of Wampanog spoke English

563
00:30:54.799 --> 00:30:55.960
and could translate.

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You all can.

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So what I need you to do is reach out

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00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:03.200
to this stranger at your table today? Why are you here?

567
00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:06.519
Why was it important for Plymouth to be one of

568
00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:09.599
the Thanksgivings in your life? Who was the first American

569
00:31:09.640 --> 00:31:12.559
in your family? If you know it? And people tell

570
00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:17.119
one another their stories and it's the American experience at

571
00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:21.359
its best. So taking that example of people in the

572
00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:25.640
sixteen hundreds reaching towards one another, we can do the same.

573
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And that's what we do with Thanksgiving here at the

574
00:31:28.680 --> 00:31:31.000
museum is how do you make friendships?

575
00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:33.200
You know, Lee, you and I've been talking for a

576
00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:36.039
couple of years now and people will tell me to go.

577
00:31:36.160 --> 00:31:38.319
You know, Bill, it wasn't on my bucket list before,

578
00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:40.599
but this is on my bucket list right.

579
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:43.839
It needs to be on your bucket list because, first

580
00:31:43.839 --> 00:31:46.480
of all, you're going to come and learn a foundational

581
00:31:46.559 --> 00:31:52.000
American story, which really it affects everyone because the Mayflower

582
00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:56.359
Pilgrims are America's family because they were our first immigrants.

583
00:31:56.400 --> 00:31:59.759
But in Plymouth we have immigrants from many many places.

584
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:03.039
We tell all of their stories. But it's not just

585
00:32:03.160 --> 00:32:06.279
all history. You can also have a ton of good time.

586
00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:09.400
You can go to group ups all over the place.

587
00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:12.079
We've got a bunch of them We've got restaurants that

588
00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:16.720
also give you food from every ethnicity. We've also got

589
00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:18.799
whale watches, and it goes on and on.

590
00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:23.759
So you won't get bored there, right, Richard, I.

591
00:32:23.759 --> 00:32:27.160
Will never get bored here. And Bill, one of the

592
00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:30.720
embarrassing things is I've been here forty five years. You

593
00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:33.599
think i'd know more than I do. And I still

594
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:36.839
think Richard, you're sixty five years old, and this insight

595
00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:40.680
is only coming to you now, so that the story

596
00:32:40.759 --> 00:32:43.599
is like a diamond that you look at from facet

597
00:32:43.799 --> 00:32:48.119
after facet, So I will never ever be bored here.

598
00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:50.400
Well, it's like a good Thanksgiving meal, you know.

599
00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:56.079
Sometimes you know it may instantly taste good, but man something.

600
00:32:55.279 --> 00:32:57.559
About it afterwards as you remember.

601
00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:00.279
And then, of course, as you mentioned, having you know

602
00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:04.079
people that you don't know around the table, and here

603
00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:07.880
it is Thanksgiving. The spirit of Thanksgiving is bringing people

604
00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:09.440
together in a very special way.

605
00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:10.240
Right exactly.

606
00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:13.759
And the stories that I get told because you and

607
00:33:13.799 --> 00:33:17.039
I know each other now after all these years, there

608
00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:19.720
are times I spend part of my Thanksgiving day and

609
00:33:19.799 --> 00:33:23.359
tears because of what people tell me during a meal

610
00:33:23.880 --> 00:33:28.119
or between a meal, that they've become so safe that

611
00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:32.759
they are telling the most vulnerable and poignant things about

612
00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:35.480
their lives and why it was important to be here

613
00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:39.799
and just to be able to share that kindness and

614
00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:42.480
be there for someone else. That's what this is all about,

615
00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:44.440
as every day should be about.

616
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:45.519
Exactly.

617
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:49.599
Well, I love Thanksgiving being where it is, Lee. It's

618
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the start of a season of gratitude, isn't it it is.

619
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It's a season of gratitude and kindness. It's a season

620
00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:02.000
when everybody can put everything else aside and just enjoy

621
00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:06.000
the joy of knowing each other and enjoying a great

622
00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:09.559
meal and doing some wonderful things, seeing going to see

623
00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:12.719
a movie together. There's so many different things that people

624
00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:14.840
love about the holidays.

625
00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:18.320
Yes, exactly, Richard, being the resident historian that you are.

626
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:23.360
Why is the first Thanksgiving at Plymouth considered the first

627
00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:26.360
celebration of the Thanksgiving holiday in this country.

628
00:34:26.760 --> 00:34:32.000
In the eighteen thirties, minister by the name of Alexander

629
00:34:32.079 --> 00:34:35.480
Young found a pamphlet that had been lost for more

630
00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:39.920
than two hundred years, and it described the pilgrim's harvest

631
00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:44.599
feasts in the late September early October sixteen twenty one,

632
00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:50.159
and everything described in Edward Winslow's letter was similar to

633
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:53.960
the Thanksgiving holiday that had already developed in New England,

634
00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:58.039
even though the earlier event was completely forgotten. But in

635
00:34:58.079 --> 00:35:02.199
that moment when he writes in the footnote, that was

636
00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:06.559
the first Thanksgiving. From that moment, Plymouth became the location

637
00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:09.519
of the nation's Thanksgiving holiday.

638
00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:12.119
Lee, I imagine there's a lot of people are making

639
00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:13.320
this an annual event.

640
00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:15.840
Right, it's just so enjoyable.

641
00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:20.400
Thanksgiving takes on a whole new meaning for them by

642
00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:21.960
going to Plymouth, right.

643
00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:24.840
And the parade, Yes, it does, and the parade is

644
00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:28.320
so fun. It happens every year the weekend before Thanksgiving,

645
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:32.400
and then people will come and they'll enjoy the Thanksgiving Parade.

646
00:35:32.840 --> 00:35:36.360
Learn about this history, plus about the history of America,

647
00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:40.159
because each float represents a different time in America. Then

648
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:43.159
they can relax and go to Plymouth the Tuxit Museum

649
00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:48.320
for that traditional Thanksgiving old style meal. So much to do?

650
00:35:48.840 --> 00:35:49.840
Yeah, how many floats?

651
00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:55.199
Oh gosh? Usually maybe well over thirty or maybe forty.

652
00:35:55.519 --> 00:35:57.000
Lee, Only because I got you right now and I

653
00:35:57.000 --> 00:36:00.519
got your attention, share with us one of your favorites stories.

654
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:02.039
Oh gosh, one of.

655
00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:06.079
My favorite stories. He's the storyteller. One of my favorite stories, though,

656
00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:09.760
I guess, is watching the children. You know, the children,

657
00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:12.679
just the look on their face whenever they see the

658
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:16.599
floats going by and everything going on. And it's always

659
00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:20.599
so interesting to see families that bring their children to

660
00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:24.599
the various monuments and such and watch them leaning over

661
00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:30.119
and explaining and seeing the awe on kids' faces. Anyone

662
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:32.480
who says history is boring, it's not in.

663
00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:34.559
Plymouth, Yeah, exactly.

664
00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:37.039
I think it'd been near and possible, especially like you say,

665
00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:39.880
when you watch the kids expression. I mean, that's priceless,

666
00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:42.360
isn't it, Richard. You know we touched on this a

667
00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:45.400
little bit. Lots of things to do. They're at Plymouth right.

668
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:50.559
Yes, that we are a place filled with museums. And

669
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what I love about our relationship to the Plymouth and Aquarian

670
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Society and Pilgrim Hall. They have all the originals, so

671
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they have the things that might have passed through the

672
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hands of Mayflower passengers. We are a completely accurate reproduction

673
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of all of that that people can touch and see

674
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in living action. And so the community together creates this

675
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wonderful portrait that is the legacy itself protected and then

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the legacy itself reproduced and enacted and explored, and the

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act of exploring the past, of recreating it is an

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active discovery.

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We've been talking with Richard Pickering and Mayflower descendant and

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Plymouth tourism official Lee Philson. Richard is the official Plymouth

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rock historian, so we love having him on the show

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as well. As we wrap things up, Lee, it's your

683
00:37:47.079 --> 00:37:50.199
responsibility to tell everybody where they can go for more information.

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plan the trip and then use it the whole time

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you're here.

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Lee and Richard, thank you so much for being with us.

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Hey, welcome back Bill Martinez here along with Jeff camp

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the author and ministry leader.

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Hey Jeff, how are you doing, buddy?

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I'm well, thank you, Happy Thanksgiving. I was going to.

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Say happy Thanksgiving. You're reading my mind.

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It's not that hard. But it's not that hard.

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I know where we're going, am I too? I would?

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Well, you know, hey, look at I love this season.

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You and I talked about it because this sets up everything.

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I mean, first of all, to pause and think of

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all the things that we can be grateful for and

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thanking God Almighty, because without him it doesn't happen.

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Jeff, No, it doesn't. My grandson just left the house.

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We had them for the weekend, and he said, Grandpa,

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I think I really liked Thanksgiving the most. I just

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like the feeling of Thanksgiving. And I was reminding him

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that Thanksgiving through Christmas is all super celebration time. But

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I think you and I've talked before, but Thanksgiving should

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be every day.

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It's an attitude exactly.

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Changes your perspective on difficulties or hardship or trials, and

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then stops you from taking the good and easy and

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pleasant things for granted, which is super easy to do well.

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And your grandson points out something and I love it

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because kids can see the purity of a holiday and

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it's such a precious time that I really feel this

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sense that it calls family leaders, especially the fathers, to

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hold precious this moment, this sanctified moment that God has

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given us. That what we do and how we think,

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what we say, how we interact should be to that

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end that promotes a special holy time and convocation right

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as opposed to getting into the squalor of let's just

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say politics or what's happening in the culture.

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Right even before that, it's just real easy to complain

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about what's going on in your day. You know, the

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schedule didn't work out, the traffic is too much, you

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burnt the meal, The kids were whining. Someone didn't get

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their nap, and they're not behaving too well. You got

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a little bit of a scratchy throat. You didn't get

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a good night's sleep. It's very easy to talk about

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those things, right, and then it kind of sets a

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tone in your home, particularly if they're kids, that we're

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about complaining, we're about discussing what we don't have. And

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my wife did a great job while the kids were here.

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We talked about what we're thankful for the whole time,

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and she had them coloring in Thanksgiving coloring books and

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they use stickers to decorate little turkeys and kept them busy.

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But at the same time, we were talking about what

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we're grateful for, you know, right, and looking at the

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glass more than half full, which it certainly is more

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than half full. Right, So I think it's a very

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you said, it's a holy responsibility of a mom or

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a dad or a grandparent to set a tone of

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gratitude instead of complaining, which is really complaining against God.

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And you know, well that the Old Testament tells the truth.

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Those people were grumblers, yes, and so are we. We're

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not better than they. It kind of shows a mirror

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that God blesses us in so many ways. And then

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we focus on what's not going great at the moment,

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forgetting that a loving father disciplines us perhaps the thing

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that is hard in our life is meant to discipline

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us to be more christ and Eternity oriented, exactly, temporal

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and self oriented.

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Right, we can be so stuff oriented, Like you say,

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it's this consumeristic mindset that is really anti God when

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you think about it, right, right, I mean that that

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would be your idol, is what you're consuming, because then

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at that point you're just a human pac man, you know,

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like that game that we grew up with.

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It just went around and chewing up.

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Dots, people, things, stuff, and you know, so what what

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do we bring? You know, if you have that kind

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of attitude and you bring it to the Thanksgiving table.

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There's a passage and colostions. It says, be careful when

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you stop being grateful and you start trying to consume

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from each other and take from each other, that you'll

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end up consuming yourselves. And the idea is that the

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value of our lives and our relationships is not in

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what we consume. It's what we receive from God and

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what we give to others. Consuming is something that you

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do and then it's gone. You know, you go out

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and purchase a meal, you eat it, it's gone. You

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buy a toy, it works for about two weeks and

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then it breaks and the kids don't play with it anymore.

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You buy some thing, a special car that costs a

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lot of money, and you wash it for lots of months,

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and then you stop washing it is often, and then

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you know services it as well, and then you take

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it for granted, and then it kind of breaks down

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a little bit. That asset depreciates. But if you invest

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in your marriage, it gets better over time. If you

857
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invest in a child in their education, it opens up doors.

858
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If you invest in your relationship with the Lord time

859
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and the word, time and gratitude, time and prayer, he

860
00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:34.880
gives you a different perspective, makes you a more joyful

861
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and loving person. So there is a huge contrast between

862
00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:42.639
being a consumer you call him a human pac man,

863
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and an investor. Now, I don't think we have anything

864
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to invest if we don't receive from God first, which

865
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is why the relationship of receiving grace, receiving blessings, passing

866
00:47:53.800 --> 00:47:57.440
them through, spending your time with the Lord and trying

867
00:47:57.440 --> 00:47:59.079
to have a conversation with him all day so you

868
00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:02.639
can keep receiving his love, his guidance, his forgiveness, his peace,

869
00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:03.519
his perspective.

870
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Right, it starts with a mindset.

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00:48:06.800 --> 00:48:10.719
And that's the opportunity here that we're talking about, is

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00:48:10.760 --> 00:48:13.480
that do you have a mindset in a sense like

873
00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:17.280
Peter had when Jesus asked him, who do they say

874
00:48:17.320 --> 00:48:20.519
I am? And Jesus said, you're the Messiah. Jesus said, okay, well,

875
00:48:20.559 --> 00:48:24.119
I know where that came from. That didn't come from you.

876
00:48:24.119 --> 00:48:26.320
You know, you're a knucklehead. I know, I don't know

877
00:48:26.360 --> 00:48:28.000
it to come. I had to come from God that

878
00:48:28.119 --> 00:48:31.679
you have that revelation. Right, here's the thief on the cross.

879
00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:35.760
Jeff chief on the cross says, hey, tells his buddy, Hey,

880
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:37.639
shut up, man, we're getting what we deserve.

881
00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:41.800
He's not a criminal. He doesn't deserve this. And uh

882
00:48:41.840 --> 00:48:43.119
and he asked, and he has.

883
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:47.159
He has the faith God deposits into this thief on

884
00:48:47.199 --> 00:48:51.559
the cross at the last moments of his life, deposits

885
00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:55.360
this sea to faith to speak to Jesus to say, hey,

886
00:48:56.119 --> 00:49:00.280
don't forget me, remember me when you go to your kingdom. Right,

887
00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:04.199
and then Jesus, Jesus gives him the gift of salvation

888
00:49:04.519 --> 00:49:06.440
right there on the cross.

889
00:49:06.760 --> 00:49:12.119
Oh wow, that one moment of lucid humility that I'm

890
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:15.559
messed up. I can't fix myself, I can't earn my

891
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:17.400
way to God. I got no time to clean up

892
00:49:17.400 --> 00:49:21.440
my act because I'm about to get killed. And he says, Jesus,

893
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:24.320
I should have dependent on you before, but I'm dependent

894
00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:26.840
on you now. Will you remember me in heaven? And

895
00:49:26.920 --> 00:49:31.599
Jesus says yes, Because Jesus's equation is one hundred percent him,

896
00:49:32.039 --> 00:49:36.559
it's one hundred percent grace, and we receive it and

897
00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:39.760
out of gratitude, which is back to thanksgiving, out of

898
00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:42.880
gratitude for what he's done, we want to please him.

899
00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:45.440
We don't want to try the selfishness anymore. We don't

900
00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:47.320
want to try the pride anymore. We don't want to

901
00:49:47.320 --> 00:49:50.559
try to win all the arguments with our spouse anymore.

902
00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:53.239
We don't want to satisfy the lust of the eyes

903
00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:57.559
for some short term counterfeit that doesn't satisfy and might

904
00:49:57.800 --> 00:50:03.079
mess up a lot of relationships. So humility that receives

905
00:50:03.239 --> 00:50:08.000
God's grace creates gratitude that follows God's law and God's law.

906
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Though they had six hundred something rules in the Jewish

907
00:50:10.639 --> 00:50:14.199
days to point out that we couldn't perform religiosity and

908
00:50:14.280 --> 00:50:17.760
make it. God's law was summarized by Jesus down to

909
00:50:18.199 --> 00:50:21.480
the law of love. Love the Lord, your God first

910
00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:26.039
and most, and love other people as you love yourself.

911
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Take care of yourself, but take care of others before

912
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yourself Philippians, chapter two.

913
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Right.

914
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And when you do that, the joy of the Lord

915
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can't can't be contained, Jeff. It just emanates from you,

916
00:50:39.119 --> 00:50:42.199
and it really makes you a magnet of you know,

917
00:50:42.239 --> 00:50:45.719
toward others that say, hey, what do you got? I

918
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:48.480
want what you got, Jeff Kemp Right.

919
00:50:49.320 --> 00:50:54.639
We all admire a person like Mother Teresa, who didn't

920
00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:58.719
need to pursue things that made her life comfortable. She

921
00:50:58.840 --> 00:51:03.519
got so much joy from her relationship with God and

922
00:51:03.920 --> 00:51:08.239
so much joy from loving people in Jesus's name, that

923
00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:12.039
this frail older women would travel around the world to

924
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barrios and ghettos and slums and leper colonies and serve

925
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the poor. And she said, I see Jesus in these people.

926
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You don't need to go do that unless God calls

927
00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:26.920
you to. But to feel the joy of the Lord,

928
00:51:26.960 --> 00:51:29.800
and then to love your wife, to love your husband,

929
00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:33.639
to show grace to them, to apologize to your kids,

930
00:51:34.400 --> 00:51:37.199
especially to your grown kids. You know because there's a

931
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lot of cultural division between generations these days, and of

932
00:51:41.960 --> 00:51:46.679
course between ethnic and racial groups. That's all satan, making

933
00:51:46.760 --> 00:51:48.679
us consumers who say I have to have it go

934
00:51:48.800 --> 00:51:50.920
my way and everyone else to agree with me. But

935
00:51:51.039 --> 00:51:53.599
God's grace says, I don't need to go my way.

936
00:51:54.400 --> 00:51:56.960
I don't need to have people agree with me. I

937
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just need to show love to them and pray to

938
00:51:59.360 --> 00:52:03.119
God would heal their hearts and take people away from

939
00:52:03.119 --> 00:52:05.679
some of the things tripping up well.

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Jeff Kemp, national speaker and author of former NFLQB, I'm

941
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going to let you wrap things up with a Thanksgiving

942
00:52:12.159 --> 00:52:13.480
prayer for us, Okay.

943
00:52:13.440 --> 00:52:18.320
I will Father God. Bill reminded us that our attitude

944
00:52:18.760 --> 00:52:22.000
makes so much difference. So I pray for every single

945
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:25.440
person listening, and for Bill and myself that we would

946
00:52:25.480 --> 00:52:29.920
maintain an attitude of gratefulness and that we would think

947
00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:34.639
of ourselves like John did the disciple the Lord loved. Yes,

948
00:52:34.719 --> 00:52:37.599
we are people you love. Help us live that way

949
00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:40.480
this week and make this nation a grateful, humble nation

950
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in Jesus name.

951
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Amen, Amen. Jeff Kemp, Happy Thanksgiving to you and Stacy

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and the family.

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Live Well.

975
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Good, morning, six minutes after the top of the hour,

976
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right now, Bill Martinez, and we've got Wayne Morrow, who's

977
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the CEO of the John Bursus Side In on Partisan

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Civics Education organization that endorses the timeless principles of the

979
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Declaration of Independence.

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Can I get a hallelujah?

981
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Thank you?

982
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I appreciated, Amen, Yes, thank you so much.

983
00:54:21.519 --> 00:54:26.039
Hey, the big headline here is the wrong, the wrong

984
00:54:26.679 --> 00:54:30.480
red wave. More than two hundred and fifty Democratic Socialists

985
00:54:30.519 --> 00:54:33.760
are now in office. And I think for some people

986
00:54:33.840 --> 00:54:36.400
that's a shock because I remember years ago when we

987
00:54:36.400 --> 00:54:40.400
were reporting there were one hundred card carrying Democratic Socialists

988
00:54:40.440 --> 00:54:43.719
and now they've been breeding over the years and now

989
00:54:43.719 --> 00:54:45.000
we're up to two hundred and fifty.

990
00:54:45.079 --> 00:54:45.320
Right.

991
00:54:46.599 --> 00:54:49.039
Well, yeah, think about how many guys in Congress are

992
00:54:49.039 --> 00:54:49.920
that fit of that block.

993
00:54:49.960 --> 00:54:52.360
So exactly, that's what I'm saying. That's a scary thing.

994
00:54:52.639 --> 00:54:55.519
Well, it's a ski Well again, when the President Trubb

995
00:54:55.519 --> 00:54:58.199
did a State of the Union, half half of the

996
00:54:58.320 --> 00:55:02.440
Democrats sat down, even though good news. Uh so, yeah,

997
00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:05.239
I call it. It's interesting they call it the red wave.

998
00:55:05.320 --> 00:55:07.199
I thought the red wave was uh.

999
00:55:08.400 --> 00:55:12.360
Yeah, right exactly. Now it is the other it's the

1000
00:55:12.400 --> 00:55:14.000
original red wave.

1001
00:55:14.280 --> 00:55:18.400
They're referring to, right, you know, the pink O wave. Yeah, yeah,

1002
00:55:18.440 --> 00:55:18.599
you know.

1003
00:55:18.679 --> 00:55:19.159
But you know.

1004
00:55:19.159 --> 00:55:23.719
Interesting, Bill, it this is this is not not a surprise.

1005
00:55:24.239 --> 00:55:27.000
I see this as a trend, but not as ugly

1006
00:55:27.039 --> 00:55:30.639
as scary as you may think. But it's a reflection

1007
00:55:30.800 --> 00:55:34.239
of complacency and the and the I call it the

1008
00:55:34.239 --> 00:55:37.320
conservative movement. You know, we likeded a president, we got

1009
00:55:37.320 --> 00:55:42.480
all tired. Trump's now president were good and I tell people, no,

1010
00:55:42.599 --> 00:55:46.480
act like you lost. But people are complacent. And I

1011
00:55:46.519 --> 00:55:49.920
know your program as it goes every day, is that

1012
00:55:50.239 --> 00:55:53.440
the message is simple is get people act like they

1013
00:55:53.519 --> 00:55:57.480
lost because the left once their power back. Right, you

1014
00:55:57.480 --> 00:56:00.360
know what happened last time, Right, all the said to

1015
00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:02.519
flip this upside down on purpose that make it up

1016
00:56:02.559 --> 00:56:05.880
for lost ground. Right, So people have to get active.

1017
00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:10.280
And the reason why you have DSA guides in office.

1018
00:56:10.639 --> 00:56:12.840
And I live in an area where I watch this

1019
00:56:13.559 --> 00:56:16.599
and just as I travel around, is that I find

1020
00:56:16.599 --> 00:56:18.960
a lot of complacency and people not active in the

1021
00:56:19.039 --> 00:56:19.920
voting process.

1022
00:56:20.159 --> 00:56:21.760
Exactly why are we going to vote?

1023
00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:24.280
We really don't care. Hey, By the way, Bill Martinez

1024
00:56:24.320 --> 00:56:27.639
would be a great guy as a state representative. Well, yeah,

1025
00:56:27.679 --> 00:56:31.239
I don't know what do you think. So basically our

1026
00:56:31.599 --> 00:56:34.159
enemy is us. We hand it over to them, and

1027
00:56:34.199 --> 00:56:38.280
they're active. They see the opportunities. So in our website

1028
00:56:38.400 --> 00:56:42.000
JBS dot org or thenew American or magazine dot com.

1029
00:56:42.320 --> 00:56:45.119
We love the magazine they call the Freedom Index. And

1030
00:56:45.159 --> 00:56:47.159
the reason why we spend the money to do that

1031
00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:51.719
is that that thing then shows you how you legislators

1032
00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:54.159
state as well as a federal vote.

1033
00:56:54.400 --> 00:56:54.480
No.

1034
00:56:54.599 --> 00:56:56.119
By the way, on there, I know you can see

1035
00:56:56.119 --> 00:56:58.480
me on zoom. Here. We have an app you go

1036
00:56:58.519 --> 00:57:00.000
online and see how it's done. We have an app

1037
00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:03.320
for our phone, and the phone app actually has you

1038
00:57:03.320 --> 00:57:05.440
know here you got all your representatives. But the cool

1039
00:57:05.519 --> 00:57:07.760
thing about this app for your phone web app has

1040
00:57:07.800 --> 00:57:10.000
the whole United States in it and you can click

1041
00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:12.599
on it has all the legislatives votes. And here's a

1042
00:57:12.599 --> 00:57:14.559
new thing about this is you have all the voting

1043
00:57:14.599 --> 00:57:18.360
record of everybody in the United States. And yes, and

1044
00:57:18.440 --> 00:57:21.440
so as they go around the US, I tell folks,

1045
00:57:22.119 --> 00:57:24.840
you have no excuse now not to talk to your representative.

1046
00:57:24.840 --> 00:57:28.519
Why you're voting this way exactly. The answer for that

1047
00:57:29.480 --> 00:57:32.880
current two point fifty DSA, which is totally Marxist, is

1048
00:57:32.920 --> 00:57:35.920
because the result of complacent electorate.

1049
00:57:36.159 --> 00:57:39.119
That's you're exactly you're exactly right, one hundred percent. Yeah,

1050
00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:42.559
because the thing is is that our constitution says the

1051
00:57:42.599 --> 00:57:45.199
government up for by we the people. And when I

1052
00:57:45.280 --> 00:57:47.679
say by definition, that means you have to be engaged.

1053
00:57:47.719 --> 00:57:50.519
If you're not engaged, you have the America we have today,

1054
00:57:51.079 --> 00:57:54.079
you know, splintered off. The Democratic parties lost it, and

1055
00:57:54.119 --> 00:57:57.000
they're going to find areas, little enclaves along the way,

1056
00:57:57.199 --> 00:58:01.519
like New York and uh, parts of the country where

1057
00:58:01.559 --> 00:58:04.400
they can settle in Los Angeles, look for that. That'll

1058
00:58:04.400 --> 00:58:06.760
be the next you know, the next zone that they

1059
00:58:06.760 --> 00:58:10.119
will cover. Uh, they've already got what they got organ

1060
00:58:10.760 --> 00:58:13.360
and uh so it's going to continue to spread. But

1061
00:58:13.440 --> 00:58:16.639
it's not it's not going to be necessarily a national

1062
00:58:17.480 --> 00:58:22.599
party because they're so bifurcated and specialized and uh but

1063
00:58:22.960 --> 00:58:25.679
nonetheless they're gonna they're gonna cause a lot of problems.

1064
00:58:25.719 --> 00:58:27.719
They're they're not going to be easy people to deal with.

1065
00:58:28.159 --> 00:58:30.199
Yeah, no, it's true. But you know, maybe it's a

1066
00:58:30.199 --> 00:58:33.840
wake up call for the complacency. Yes, exactly, because they

1067
00:58:33.880 --> 00:58:37.480
will not stop. They will and they're very well funded

1068
00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:42.800
by uh, very well healed foundations that are promoting leftists.

1069
00:58:42.840 --> 00:58:45.239
Too bad that these foundations will take the money to

1070
00:58:45.280 --> 00:58:47.920
do it for good. You know, grat Center Grassley is

1071
00:58:47.920 --> 00:58:52.079
actually doing investigations of foundations and Rockefeller forth foundations and

1072
00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:54.760
but carts are foundations. Where's that money all going? Is

1073
00:58:55.159 --> 00:58:58.079
the leftist causes? Can you imagine these guys are funding

1074
00:58:58.159 --> 00:59:00.719
leftist causes against us? I don't mean about dollars. I

1075
00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:03.320
talk about me as a dollar no, exactly, no, exactly

1076
00:59:03.360 --> 00:59:05.159
me to go out and march around and have science

1077
00:59:05.400 --> 00:59:07.239
and sign people up. You know that we wrote in

1078
00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:11.079
the article he sign people thirty thirty six thousand, I

1079
00:59:11.079 --> 00:59:14.039
think I found out. And the two weeks before the election,

1080
00:59:14.679 --> 00:59:17.039
these people want door to door getting people signed up

1081
00:59:17.079 --> 00:59:19.360
and vote in New York but have never voted before.

1082
00:59:19.559 --> 00:59:22.239
But they get thirty bucks an hour to do that, right,

1083
00:59:22.360 --> 00:59:23.360
exactly free?

1084
00:59:23.719 --> 00:59:27.199
No, no, no, no, no, Well, George Soros and his

1085
00:59:27.360 --> 00:59:29.920
ILK have figured out, you know, how to play the game,

1086
00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:32.719
and uh, you know, and to your point talk about

1087
00:59:32.719 --> 00:59:36.639
complacency the Republicans and I and I said going into this,

1088
00:59:37.000 --> 00:59:41.480
you cannot yield ground. And they yielded ground in New York.

1089
00:59:41.519 --> 00:59:44.880
And it started even with you know the nominee that

1090
00:59:44.960 --> 00:59:45.280
they had.

1091
00:59:45.280 --> 00:59:47.559
I love Curtis Lee. Well, he's a great guy, and

1092
00:59:47.599 --> 00:59:49.000
he's he's.

1093
00:59:48.599 --> 00:59:51.280
A great patriot, and he loves New York and he's

1094
00:59:51.599 --> 00:59:53.239
I mean, he's put his life on the line there.

1095
00:59:53.280 --> 00:59:56.079
He's been shot I think five or six times and

1096
00:59:56.360 --> 01:00:00.360
beat up and what have you. But he's not he's

1097
01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:05.199
not the standard bearer I believe for conservatism. And you know,

1098
01:00:05.239 --> 01:00:07.719
you've got to have a candidate that's going to carry

1099
01:00:07.760 --> 01:00:10.320
the message. Even if you do lose, at least get

1100
01:00:10.320 --> 01:00:11.480
your message out there.

1101
01:00:11.559 --> 01:00:14.639
Right, Oh yeah, yeah, but who did what was it?

1102
01:00:14.760 --> 01:00:17.880
What was the lineup? You had Como and you had him, so.

1103
01:00:17.880 --> 01:00:20.440
You had Mom Donnie, and you had and.

1104
01:00:20.360 --> 01:00:21.920
He had a little bit more than half of it

1105
01:00:22.039 --> 01:00:24.679
even with that going in, so I tell you, I mean,

1106
01:00:24.679 --> 01:00:27.719
it wasn't like a big landslide. But and this was

1107
01:00:27.760 --> 01:00:29.920
all those the Nord docking. Of course, we don't know

1108
01:00:29.960 --> 01:00:32.440
how many illegal people voted. That's another story. But you

1109
01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:35.880
know when he offered free launch, free busses, free schools,

1110
01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:38.519
free this, free the come on, no, I mean no.

1111
01:00:38.920 --> 01:00:41.079
And he's not even in office and he's already realizing

1112
01:00:41.119 --> 01:00:42.679
he's in trouble. He's not going to be able to

1113
01:00:42.719 --> 01:00:46.239
deliver because his constituents in their way, and they are

1114
01:00:46.599 --> 01:00:48.599
they want to hold his feet to the fire, and

1115
01:00:48.639 --> 01:00:51.159
they're going, okay, you know, where's you know, you know,

1116
01:00:51.199 --> 01:00:52.960
what do you got? And he's going, well, it's not

1117
01:00:53.039 --> 01:00:55.239
quite working out the way I thought, and I mean

1118
01:00:55.360 --> 01:00:56.960
so bad. I mean, he was talking all that in

1119
01:00:56.960 --> 01:00:59.320
a bag of chips against Donald Trump. Now he wants

1120
01:00:59.360 --> 01:01:02.199
to go to DC and kiss his ring, right, right, yeah.

1121
01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:05.239
Well, you know, Hokeel, the governor says, I'm not supporting

1122
01:01:05.280 --> 01:01:07.159
anything to say it. You can't do this. This is

1123
01:01:07.199 --> 01:01:10.519
going to take a state legislation, state approval, right, you

1124
01:01:10.599 --> 01:01:14.239
can't do this right, And all of a sudden, it's like, wow,

1125
01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:16.880
so interesting you think about this all the Wall Street people?

1126
01:01:16.880 --> 01:01:20.079
Because I had a show on Monday in the city.

1127
01:01:20.599 --> 01:01:24.360
I said, where's all the rich people and the Wallstreets

1128
01:01:24.400 --> 01:01:26.639
complaining what this happened? I don't hear a peep out

1129
01:01:26.639 --> 01:01:29.199
of those people, do you. No, they're not, they're not,

1130
01:01:29.360 --> 01:01:31.360
they're not, you know, because this is not the first

1131
01:01:31.360 --> 01:01:33.360
time he had a left leaning mayor, right.

1132
01:01:33.519 --> 01:01:36.840
Yeah, yeah, right, right exactly.

1133
01:01:37.079 --> 01:01:39.400
I mean Lennon hung out there for a while back

1134
01:01:39.440 --> 01:01:42.400
in nineteen hundreds. So but you don't see them on

1135
01:01:42.480 --> 01:01:45.280
the phone, like, hey, you know, so we're this guy's

1136
01:01:45.280 --> 01:01:48.039
anti Israel. I don't see the Jewish community, which has

1137
01:01:48.079 --> 01:01:51.280
the largest population in the United States, Right, so this

1138
01:01:51.360 --> 01:01:53.360
is do you hear any No? I don't hear no.

1139
01:01:53.440 --> 01:01:55.239
In fact, I was shocked that it wasn't one hundred

1140
01:01:55.280 --> 01:01:58.719
percent Jews voting against Mom Donni. It was two to one,

1141
01:01:59.239 --> 01:02:01.760
And I'm going, what somebody needs to talk to that one.

1142
01:02:02.159 --> 01:02:03.079
You know, I don't know.

1143
01:02:03.199 --> 01:02:06.000
I'm with you, but I'll hear a lot of mark

1144
01:02:06.039 --> 01:02:07.760
and screaming. Do you hear any of yelling screaming? I

1145
01:02:07.800 --> 01:02:12.079
don't hear anything yet. Yeah, so this is an overreaction. Yeah,

1146
01:02:12.079 --> 01:02:15.599
it's a blue state. You know, won some elections Virginia

1147
01:02:15.639 --> 01:02:20.079
simwap California for sure, but they did lose in Minnesota

1148
01:02:20.159 --> 01:02:23.360
though they raise the mine. Unfortunately, the winner actually gave

1149
01:02:23.440 --> 01:02:28.800
us presentation in Somali. So if I go back to

1150
01:02:28.840 --> 01:02:32.559
my said, bill, it's all about complacency, right. We give

1151
01:02:32.599 --> 01:02:35.079
them the knowledge of the bird society, We give them information,

1152
01:02:35.239 --> 01:02:39.480
the tools not only understand our constitution but be active

1153
01:02:39.519 --> 01:02:43.880
in the community. It's the only way it happens. You

1154
01:02:43.960 --> 01:02:46.559
have to take the time. I don't mean twenty four

1155
01:02:46.599 --> 01:02:50.239
and seven, but take participate in the process.

1156
01:02:50.199 --> 01:02:54.679
Exactly like you can't invest ten minutes a week, you know,

1157
01:02:54.800 --> 01:02:57.480
to contact your elected representatives.

1158
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Welcome back Bill Martinez here with Wayne Marl, the CEO

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of the John Bird Society, a nonpartisan civics and education

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organization that endorses the timeless principles of the Declaration of Independence.

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I will say, Wayne, I hear repeatedly when we mentioned

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early on that we're up to two hundred and fifty

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Democratic socialists in office in our government, and you go, well,

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how do they How do they swear in allegiance and

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make a vow to protect our country, our country against

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all enemies foreign and domestic, when the Constitution is the

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basis of that vow.

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Now do they do that?

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01:08:17.079 --> 01:08:20.359
Well? I can tell you about doing my run around

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01:08:20.399 --> 01:08:24.800
the United States, is that when I asked the question

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01:08:24.840 --> 01:08:27.840
when's the last time you read the US Constitution? This

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01:08:28.000 --> 01:08:32.119
is a crowd conservative people right around the How do

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01:08:32.119 --> 01:08:34.520
you pick the state? I don't care if it's Missouri, Florida. Zero,

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01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:36.479
it's usually about one or two percent.

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01:08:36.760 --> 01:08:38.000
Yeah, not surprised.

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01:08:38.279 --> 01:08:39.640
I asked the other question, when was the last time

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01:08:39.680 --> 01:08:41.840
you read your state constitution? You know what it is?

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01:08:41.920 --> 01:08:46.039
Bill probably zero? Yeah, But then I asked the other question, then,

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how do you elect constitution? Might have represent it is

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01:08:49.920 --> 01:08:52.760
if you don't know the rule book? Right? That possible?

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01:08:53.039 --> 01:08:53.279
Yeah?

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Well the signs card now yeah.

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01:08:55.920 --> 01:08:58.439
Well the follow up is go ask go ask the

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elected officials when was the last time they read.

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The College I did. It's very very small percentage you've

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01:09:05.239 --> 01:09:09.079
actually read the US Constitution, very small and as well

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01:09:09.079 --> 01:09:11.319
as the state constitution. Well, they kind of breath part

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of it, but they don't know it either. So we

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made that tool available so you can ask your legislators

1279
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federal as well at the states, say could you please

1280
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tell me how you voted this way? So we do

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this for every state on base on constitution. So how

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can I hold you up to a constitutional principle? As

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01:09:30.119 --> 01:09:33.479
you mentioned, if I don't know the rule book myself exactly.

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The other thing with legislators told me, which is a

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01:09:35.680 --> 01:09:38.319
really good question, is I asked the question. They said,

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very rarely do I get phone calls at the federal level,

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01:09:42.920 --> 01:09:45.960
especially or even the state one. I get a visit

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from people to call me about particular constitutional matter or

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01:09:49.840 --> 01:09:54.000
how I voted. So I very rarely get calls. So

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01:09:54.079 --> 01:09:56.079
Tom Asky's a good friend of ours, right, Tom's a

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01:09:56.119 --> 01:09:59.800
super He tells me he very rarely gets phone calls

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from constituents about anything. Yeah, and he said his colleagues

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01:10:04.279 --> 01:10:08.800
in Congress same thing. He said, So does that mean

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they're all doing a great job? You know? And the

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answer is, well, if you have an issue, you ought

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to call. They're working for us, right.

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01:10:14.680 --> 01:10:17.399
Well, you look at their polling. They're polling is miserable

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01:10:17.520 --> 01:10:18.359
right now? What are they?

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01:10:19.359 --> 01:10:21.520
Well below twenty I think in some cases ten percent

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or something like that.

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So you know, so I blame us. You know, you

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have to have that's it, That's right, Yeah, and that's

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what we try to do, educate and get people involved.

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01:10:31.560 --> 01:10:34.479
Well, God bless you for doing that because it's absolutely

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important because you know, civic education is non existent in

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01:10:38.600 --> 01:10:40.199
our educational system.

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Right, now correct on purpose.

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Yeah, by design, no doubt about it.

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No, they don't even know we're a republic. They think

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we're a democracy.

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I know.

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That drives me nuts every time I hear them say that.

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I just it's like chalk hitting the chalkboard in the

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wrong direction, you know. The hair on the back of

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01:10:56.319 --> 01:10:59.279
my neck goes. Yeah, Oh my gosh.

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It's just it's it's crazy. So I asked the young folks.

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They said, if you think social is really good, could

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you tell me as our communism? I said, tell me

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01:11:07.119 --> 01:11:10.760
a country who the poor rose up and took over,

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01:11:10.840 --> 01:11:13.159
and it's one that's nirvana. Could you please tell me

1321
01:11:13.239 --> 01:11:14.319
a history of which one that is.

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01:11:14.520 --> 01:11:15.199
I just like to know.

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01:11:15.720 --> 01:11:19.199
I'm still waiting, Yeah, because I really wanted You really

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01:11:19.359 --> 01:11:22.079
really want that form of government. You can go to

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01:11:22.159 --> 01:11:24.319
the European market, they have quite a few of them.

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01:11:24.720 --> 01:11:26.720
You go to China, they'll take care of their immediately.

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01:11:27.000 --> 01:11:30.000
You go fixture right up. So, but why do people

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01:11:30.079 --> 01:11:32.560
come here if they really want to live in that environment.

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01:11:32.640 --> 01:11:34.960
There's already such countries, they already have.

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That in place, right exactly.

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01:11:36.560 --> 01:11:40.039
They just knock yourself out. Go to Delta air Lines

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01:11:40.079 --> 01:11:41.920
and give you a free run one wave ticket. We'll

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see y'all later, right, the mess us up?

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01:11:44.680 --> 01:11:44.800
Right?

1335
01:11:45.279 --> 01:11:47.760
Yeah, you can go and join those celebrities from Hollywood

1336
01:11:47.800 --> 01:11:50.800
that keep leaving, because every time Trump gets elected, you know,

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01:11:50.840 --> 01:11:51.399
they're moving.

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01:11:52.000 --> 01:11:52.159
You know.

1339
01:11:52.640 --> 01:11:54.159
I can only hand it to a couple of them

1340
01:11:54.199 --> 01:11:57.319
that actually followed up on what they said, So God

1341
01:11:57.359 --> 01:12:00.880
bless them for having some integrity. I didn't care for

1342
01:12:00.960 --> 01:12:04.000
their politics, but at least I have respect that they

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01:12:04.520 --> 01:12:06.279
did follow up on what they said they were going.

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01:12:06.279 --> 01:12:08.239
To do and the earth didn't shift when they left,

1345
01:12:08.279 --> 01:12:09.039
you know, is that we're.

1346
01:12:08.960 --> 01:12:11.640
So good to go right right exactly exactly?

1347
01:12:12.079 --> 01:12:15.840
Well, Wayne, looking at you know, this administration and what

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01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:19.600
they've what they've done so far in almost ten months,

1349
01:12:20.159 --> 01:12:24.159
and what's projected yet to come around the corner, you know,

1350
01:12:24.319 --> 01:12:27.880
the affordability is the big, big issue. And I believe

1351
01:12:27.920 --> 01:12:32.079
the affordability problems that exist were created by, you know,

1352
01:12:32.439 --> 01:12:36.920
by democratic policies in large part. I mean, in the

1353
01:12:37.039 --> 01:12:39.359
four years of Joe Biden was just awful. I mean,

1354
01:12:39.399 --> 01:12:42.119
to get to get up to nine percent inflation, are

1355
01:12:42.159 --> 01:12:42.680
you kidding me?

1356
01:12:43.479 --> 01:12:45.720
I mean that's not like you said. It's not by accident,

1357
01:12:46.199 --> 01:12:47.399
it was by design.

1358
01:12:47.239 --> 01:12:50.840
You know, having anywhere from ten to fifteen twenty million

1359
01:12:50.920 --> 01:12:54.640
illegal immigrants flooding our border, and you know, flooding our

1360
01:12:55.239 --> 01:12:59.119
states not by accident, you know by design.

1361
01:12:59.560 --> 01:13:00.520
And it's all to.

1362
01:13:00.800 --> 01:13:05.439
As you said earlier, it's all to attack our independence,

1363
01:13:05.600 --> 01:13:09.720
the freedom that you know is enshrined in our declaration

1364
01:13:09.840 --> 01:13:10.600
of independence.

1365
01:13:11.119 --> 01:13:13.279
And it puts stress on our system because they get

1366
01:13:13.319 --> 01:13:15.600
free health care and free housing and food as you

1367
01:13:15.680 --> 01:13:17.239
all know, and they get a cell phone and a

1368
01:13:17.319 --> 01:13:19.760
place that you know, if you go to social services

1369
01:13:19.800 --> 01:13:21.640
they get take care of. They can't speak English, but

1370
01:13:21.720 --> 01:13:24.720
they also have Medicare and Medicaid and somebody who can

1371
01:13:24.920 --> 01:13:27.479
is in ligne. So the list goes. It puts a

1372
01:13:27.520 --> 01:13:32.119
stress on the system on purpose, right why inflation goes

1373
01:13:32.199 --> 01:13:34.399
up as one of the reasons why. But also they're

1374
01:13:34.399 --> 01:13:36.159
printing more and more money. You know, that's a whole

1375
01:13:36.520 --> 01:13:39.880
federally service at papagatomy number one. But aside from all that,

1376
01:13:40.079 --> 01:13:42.399
that puts stress on that and because I call them

1377
01:13:42.439 --> 01:13:45.239
unregistered democrats, you know, so they're all coming in to

1378
01:13:45.319 --> 01:13:48.119
make sure they win elections. I get it, I understand it.

1379
01:13:48.720 --> 01:13:51.359
And of course the people now being shoved back over

1380
01:13:51.439 --> 01:13:53.439
the border again, which is nice to see. There's a

1381
01:13:53.479 --> 01:13:55.880
lot of complaints about that, right, right. So I think

1382
01:13:55.920 --> 01:13:57.880
if you look at the you know, even in New York,

1383
01:13:58.640 --> 01:14:02.159
there were people who voted were that demographic, you know,

1384
01:14:02.399 --> 01:14:05.000
there was the disenfranchise they call it. Those are the

1385
01:14:05.039 --> 01:14:07.960
ones who got out voted, all right, and because they

1386
01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:09.960
had a vested interest, because they got a lot of

1387
01:14:10.000 --> 01:14:13.319
free stuff, right exactly. Yeah, that's that's kind of where

1388
01:14:13.399 --> 01:14:16.520
we are. And you can't the system cannot absorb it,

1389
01:14:16.800 --> 01:14:19.159
like we had to shut down. And the basis for

1390
01:14:19.279 --> 01:14:22.640
it is were Obamacare, right, I called the Affordable Act.

1391
01:14:23.000 --> 01:14:25.319
But we knew because I was in healthcare before I

1392
01:14:25.399 --> 01:14:28.960
came here, I knew exactly that was going to crash

1393
01:14:29.039 --> 01:14:32.880
and burn once they found out when the starts paying

1394
01:14:33.119 --> 01:14:35.279
and they're gonna have to really pay for it, it

1395
01:14:35.359 --> 01:14:37.800
goes up seventy five percent. We knew the hockey stick

1396
01:14:38.000 --> 01:14:40.119
wherever that's going to be, because the bomb was long

1397
01:14:40.159 --> 01:14:43.439
gone by then. Right, it's like this way and they go, oh, oh,

1398
01:14:43.840 --> 01:14:45.720
we had to we got to continue to pay in this,

1399
01:14:45.960 --> 01:14:48.520
which causes increase in debt. We knew that was going

1400
01:14:48.600 --> 01:14:50.560
to be a bust, and now we're seeing it was

1401
01:14:50.640 --> 01:14:53.680
a bust and they know that. And guess who penned

1402
01:14:53.720 --> 01:14:56.560
that one was Nancy Pelosi and the Democratic Party. Oh yeah,

1403
01:14:57.760 --> 01:14:59.199
sign it and we'll tell you what it is later on.

1404
01:14:59.399 --> 01:15:01.319
Exactly got passed it to find out what's in it?

1405
01:15:01.479 --> 01:15:04.359
You know, surprise, like Jack in the box, just so absurd.

1406
01:15:04.399 --> 01:15:06.319
I mean, how do you run a country that way?

1407
01:15:06.520 --> 01:15:08.079
You know, I was sharing with the audience a while ago.

1408
01:15:08.159 --> 01:15:10.600
You know, when Nancy Pelosi came into office, I think

1409
01:15:10.720 --> 01:15:14.319
was an eighty two somewhere there, and we were like

1410
01:15:14.479 --> 01:15:17.399
a little over two trillion in debt. She leaves forty

1411
01:15:17.479 --> 01:15:20.359
years later, almost forty years later, we're a thirty eight

1412
01:15:20.399 --> 01:15:23.840
trillion in debt, and she's now worth anywhere from one

1413
01:15:23.920 --> 01:15:26.560
hundred and thirty five to four hundred million dollars.

1414
01:15:27.079 --> 01:15:28.119
What's wrong with this picture?

1415
01:15:30.279 --> 01:15:32.560
Good information? Somebody got into stock tips.

1416
01:15:32.359 --> 01:15:35.119
Right, yeah, exactly. Well, then they had an app.

1417
01:15:35.319 --> 01:15:38.079
Somebody had created an app to follow you talk about

1418
01:15:38.119 --> 01:15:42.279
following her purchases, her stock purchases, because everybody said, yeah,

1419
01:15:42.359 --> 01:15:47.640
she outperformed the best houses you know on the planet,

1420
01:15:48.039 --> 01:15:50.800
everything else, So we'll just buy what Nancy and Paul

1421
01:15:50.840 --> 01:15:51.239
are buying.

1422
01:15:51.640 --> 01:15:53.359
That's right. How about that? How do they know that

1423
01:15:53.560 --> 01:15:54.039
some magic.

1424
01:15:54.159 --> 01:15:57.720
Right, Well yeah, yeah, exactly. Well it helps when you're

1425
01:15:57.760 --> 01:15:59.439
on the inside, I guess, right.

1426
01:16:00.479 --> 01:16:03.880
And that to actually prove that, you know. But people said, well,

1427
01:16:03.880 --> 01:16:07.199
I'm glad she's retiring, and I said, we have to

1428
01:16:07.279 --> 01:16:09.159
get rid of her. And I said, well, okay, hang

1429
01:16:09.199 --> 01:16:11.800
on a second, I said, to talk about term limbits.

1430
01:16:11.840 --> 01:16:13.760
What's where we are? We have term of its. Every

1431
01:16:13.800 --> 01:16:16.159
two years we call we can turn the whole house over.

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So here's the story about the termo of It's nonsense?

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Is that?

1434
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Sure? We'll tell Nancy this is your last year in office. Now,

1435
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then go rogue because they're all done. Number two, if

1436
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I don't have an educated electorate, we'll get a young

1437
01:16:28.960 --> 01:16:32.399
Nancy Pelosi. Yeah exactly, you're not going to get some

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of its constitutional mind, everything's good. So you're going to

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get a young Nancy Pelosi because it's not she'd elect herself,

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the people back at home things. She's doing a great job, right.

1441
01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:44.159
Exactly about it, right exactly.

1442
01:16:44.600 --> 01:16:47.119
Yeah, you haven't done anything about the tree itself, the

1443
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tree that's producing all this corruption and fraud and everything.

1444
01:16:51.079 --> 01:16:53.600
It's still the same tree, you know, you have. You

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haven't pulled it out by its roots and replanted something

1446
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that's more integris and in line with the Declaration of Indos.

1447
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What a novel idea or Wayne.

1448
01:17:02.199 --> 01:17:04.279
How about that? So that's our problem. Go back to

1449
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the same genesis issue. If you want to change your

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elected officials, you have to get involved, have constitutional minor representatives.

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And the way that happens, you have to have an

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electorate that says I'm not voting for this person because

1453
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it does not reflect upon our values exactly, this is

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where we are. And then when they do leave office,

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you have a then with somebody who you can say,

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these people will do a good job for us. Until

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that happens, you give us going around and around and

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around the around.

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Well, Wayne, I can't thank you enough for coming on

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the show. I appreciate you giving us the time. You know,

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we've we've been very pleased to interview a lot of representatives.

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You know from the publication that you produce now on

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a monthly basis. You've got some awesome talent there. Wayne

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is the CEO of the John Birch Society and also

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associated with you know, the magazine The New American.

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Where can they go for more information? Wayne, to be connected?

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Good question so we have. You can find all the

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information constitution courses at all on JBS dot org. You

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can join the organization, get involved in the process we

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talk about. It's not very expensive. We have a magazine

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once a month called The New American dot Com. There

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you'll find the Freedom Index.

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Hey.

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By the way, we also have a school online school

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called the Freedom Project Academy. It goes from kindergarten to

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So how do we take socialism on the minds of

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our children? We teach them constitutional principles. So that's growing

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on homeschool. It's a whole program at its own. The

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homeschool mark grows because I want a safe place to go,

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but teach them on Americanism.

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That's awesome, Wayne, thank you so much for being with

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his Take.

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Care, William have a guard take care all right. Bye bye.

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Hey, good morning, Welcome back Bill Martinez here and we

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got Sarah McFarlane join us. Sarah is a spokesperson for

1548
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the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals and we're

1549
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gonna learn sometimes the surprising dangers that cats face when

1550
01:22:40.439 --> 01:22:45.359
allowed outdoors unattended. So there's a reason why you need

1551
01:22:45.439 --> 01:22:49.239
to think about keeping your cats indoor to protect them,

1552
01:22:49.279 --> 01:22:53.640
because most people would never risk a beloved family member's life.

1553
01:22:53.680 --> 01:22:56.039
But every day, people who love their cats allow them

1554
01:22:56.079 --> 01:23:00.600
to roam unsupervised outside, not realizing that they face a

1555
01:23:00.720 --> 01:23:03.279
host of dangers. Sarah McFarland, I got to tell you,

1556
01:23:03.279 --> 01:23:06.439
you know, when I see this in the neighborhood.

1557
01:23:06.239 --> 01:23:08.720
I wonder, I go, I go. I understand, there's some

1558
01:23:08.880 --> 01:23:14.319
cats that have great instinct survival instincts, but there's so

1559
01:23:14.479 --> 01:23:17.159
many things happening even in our neighborhood, whether it's cars

1560
01:23:17.279 --> 01:23:20.720
and other you know, animals that can attack them and everything,

1561
01:23:21.239 --> 01:23:25.119
and there's just you know, you know, you always hear

1562
01:23:25.159 --> 01:23:27.600
that cats have nine lives, but you don't want them

1563
01:23:28.039 --> 01:23:30.640
using them all up on one outing outside of the

1564
01:23:30.720 --> 01:23:32.520
house unsupervised.

1565
01:23:31.880 --> 01:23:35.960
Right, Definitely not. Yeah, it's so essential for us to

1566
01:23:36.079 --> 01:23:40.000
remember that our cats depend on us to keep them safe,

1567
01:23:40.199 --> 01:23:43.560
and every single moment a cat is allowed to roam

1568
01:23:43.680 --> 01:23:48.800
outside unattended, they face potentially deadly risks, Like you said,

1569
01:23:48.840 --> 01:23:54.720
speeding cars and diseases and parasites and shockingly even attacks.

1570
01:23:54.319 --> 01:23:57.119
From cruel people and exactly, yeah.

1571
01:23:57.239 --> 01:24:00.239
Letting cats outside unattended, it's like playing Russian rooms with

1572
01:24:00.319 --> 01:24:03.319
their lives. And that's why the safest place for cats

1573
01:24:03.359 --> 01:24:04.239
is always indoors.

1574
01:24:04.880 --> 01:24:07.600
Well, you know, this statistic was surprising to me, and

1575
01:24:07.640 --> 01:24:09.560
I don't know why. I just had never thought about

1576
01:24:09.560 --> 01:24:11.119
it or I hain't heard about it. So thank you

1577
01:24:11.199 --> 01:24:15.840
for telling us that often these cats, they're lucky to

1578
01:24:15.880 --> 01:24:17.039
get to their fifth birthday.

1579
01:24:17.680 --> 01:24:17.880
Yeah.

1580
01:24:18.159 --> 01:24:21.079
Yeah, any cat who's allowed to go outside has an

1581
01:24:21.079 --> 01:24:24.880
average lifespan of three to five years, but cats who

1582
01:24:24.920 --> 01:24:27.479
are kept inside where they belong, they can live twenty

1583
01:24:27.520 --> 01:24:29.840
plus years. I had a cat, My first cat, got

1584
01:24:29.920 --> 01:24:33.760
arouns twenty four. My grandma adopted her for me, or

1585
01:24:33.800 --> 01:24:35.880
I got when I was four years old, my fourth birthday,

1586
01:24:36.079 --> 01:24:40.319
and yeah, she was around until my twenty fourth birthday.

1587
01:24:40.399 --> 01:24:42.840
We had her twenty years and she lived a long,

1588
01:24:42.880 --> 01:24:43.840
healthy life. Yeah.

1589
01:24:44.359 --> 01:24:45.319
Yeah, well that's great.

1590
01:24:45.479 --> 01:24:47.119
And the other thing too, you know, just as a

1591
01:24:47.159 --> 01:24:50.279
sidebar here, you know, people will domesticate these cats, they

1592
01:24:50.359 --> 01:24:52.359
declawe them, and then they let them go outside, and

1593
01:24:52.600 --> 01:24:56.439
they've taken away their weapons to defend themselves.

1594
01:24:56.560 --> 01:24:59.840
Right, yes, Oh my gosh, declining it's one of the

1595
01:25:00.119 --> 01:25:02.760
coolest things we can do to cats.

1596
01:25:02.920 --> 01:25:04.199
It's see.

1597
01:25:04.239 --> 01:25:07.239
The thing is before a lot of people, even twenty

1598
01:25:07.359 --> 01:25:10.479
years ago, didn't I don't think they realized really what

1599
01:25:10.680 --> 01:25:15.039
decline was. I think my grandmother was the biggest cat

1600
01:25:15.199 --> 01:25:17.760
lover you've ever met, but she would get her cat's

1601
01:25:18.119 --> 01:25:21.359
declawed because she didn't understand that. She thought it was maintenance.

1602
01:25:21.439 --> 01:25:24.199
She thought it was like clipping the cat's nails or

1603
01:25:24.279 --> 01:25:26.960
something and keeping the furniture in the carpet, you know,

1604
01:25:27.239 --> 01:25:31.239
in good shape. But declining a cat that's literally the

1605
01:25:31.319 --> 01:25:35.399
equivalent of us having the finger chopped off. It's mutilating

1606
01:25:35.560 --> 01:25:38.880
a cat. We can trim their claws, but when you

1607
01:25:39.119 --> 01:25:41.920
take their claws away, like you said, that's one of

1608
01:25:42.000 --> 01:25:45.760
their main methods of self defense. And when they don't

1609
01:25:45.840 --> 01:25:50.319
have that, they suffer tremendous emotional distress. I one of

1610
01:25:50.359 --> 01:25:54.720
my cats, mister Lowry, his first guardian declawed him. He

1611
01:25:54.920 --> 01:25:58.039
has significant emotional issues because of that.

1612
01:25:58.680 --> 01:26:01.680
Right, yeah, well that's and that's amazing.

1613
01:26:01.720 --> 01:26:03.520
You know, you don't really don't think about it because well,

1614
01:26:03.560 --> 01:26:06.680
you know, they're cats, right, but they're having beings that

1615
01:26:07.800 --> 01:26:11.880
you know that there there's things that work and balance

1616
01:26:11.920 --> 01:26:14.920
and harmony, just like everything else about life. When you

1617
01:26:15.399 --> 01:26:20.640
break up the harmony in somebody's whether it's psychologically or biologically,

1618
01:26:20.920 --> 01:26:22.079
what do you think is going to happen?

1619
01:26:22.239 --> 01:26:22.399
Right?

1620
01:26:23.239 --> 01:26:23.760
Exactly?

1621
01:26:23.880 --> 01:26:27.640
When they don't have there, They've been taken Their instincts

1622
01:26:27.680 --> 01:26:30.520
have been taken from them, this natural instinct to defend himself,

1623
01:26:30.520 --> 01:26:32.840
and they don't have a way of doing that. Of course,

1624
01:26:32.880 --> 01:26:35.439
that would be us, like not having arms or something,

1625
01:26:35.520 --> 01:26:39.239
no way for us to defend ourselves. And yet I've

1626
01:26:39.359 --> 01:26:42.520
just seen that first hand with mister Lowry. He's very

1627
01:26:43.159 --> 01:26:45.439
he's terrified of my other cats. I have to keep

1628
01:26:45.520 --> 01:26:50.840
him separated from them, and he has significant separation anxiety.

1629
01:26:51.279 --> 01:26:53.640
And it's all because the vet told me. It's all

1630
01:26:53.680 --> 01:26:56.199
because he was declined. Now we're seeing a lot of

1631
01:26:56.800 --> 01:27:00.359
bands for decline, which we're so happy about. There are

1632
01:27:00.439 --> 01:27:04.800
still vuts who perform the procedure. So I would encourage

1633
01:27:04.800 --> 01:27:09.600
anyone who's listening to share this information with everyone. Let

1634
01:27:09.720 --> 01:27:12.079
people know a lot of people don't have any idea

1635
01:27:12.319 --> 01:27:15.920
what these procedures are like, but everybody know. Yeah, let

1636
01:27:16.000 --> 01:27:17.439
everyone know what deplying really is.

1637
01:27:17.880 --> 01:27:21.039
Well, Sarah, you know you being a cat person, Admittedly,

1638
01:27:21.159 --> 01:27:25.720
I'm more of a dog person. And I grew in

1639
01:27:25.840 --> 01:27:29.199
some understanding and appreciation for cats when my son had

1640
01:27:29.199 --> 01:27:34.039
a couple of cats, and I never realized how medicinal

1641
01:27:34.119 --> 01:27:38.520
they are, yeah, in terms of you know, just their purring,

1642
01:27:38.800 --> 01:27:42.279
and I mean I was amazed, and I was grateful

1643
01:27:42.640 --> 01:27:44.680
for that period of time being around my son and

1644
01:27:44.760 --> 01:27:47.800
his two cats, because I really got, you know, some

1645
01:27:47.960 --> 01:27:50.960
practical education in that experience.

1646
01:27:52.119 --> 01:27:57.760
Definitely, when cats have a loving home and an enriched environment,

1647
01:27:58.800 --> 01:28:02.359
you really see they all have their own personalities. And

1648
01:28:03.039 --> 01:28:07.920
I've had five cats over my lifetime, and every single

1649
01:28:08.000 --> 01:28:13.119
one of them had a very distinct personality. And it's

1650
01:28:13.199 --> 01:28:15.800
so interesting to see when they do when they're in

1651
01:28:15.880 --> 01:28:19.159
an environment where they're able to thrive. Like you said,

1652
01:28:19.199 --> 01:28:23.920
they're so affectionate and so loving and so interesting, so intelligent.

1653
01:28:23.960 --> 01:28:25.239
I think my cats are smarter than.

1654
01:28:25.239 --> 01:28:28.680
Me, to be honest with you, it's just they're a

1655
01:28:28.720 --> 01:28:30.760
step ahead of you, Sarah. They got you figured out,

1656
01:28:30.920 --> 01:28:31.720
you know, that's it.

1657
01:28:31.840 --> 01:28:34.680
They always I have two, they're best friends. They're always

1658
01:28:34.720 --> 01:28:37.479
out smarting me together and getting up to all kinds

1659
01:28:37.479 --> 01:28:39.079
of mischiefs. So but I think it's cute.

1660
01:28:39.199 --> 01:28:41.159
It's all good exactly.

1661
01:28:41.920 --> 01:28:45.960
Well, yeah, you know, but again, and I'm pleased, and

1662
01:28:46.239 --> 01:28:48.840
you know, I appreciate hearing from your perspective because with

1663
01:28:48.960 --> 01:28:51.960
your experience with cats, and you know, and a lot

1664
01:28:52.039 --> 01:28:53.840
a lot of people in our audience who have cats,

1665
01:28:53.880 --> 01:28:56.039
you know, they're going, well, yeah, Martinez, you've been behind

1666
01:28:56.079 --> 01:28:56.960
the curve for a long time.

1667
01:28:57.000 --> 01:28:59.560
We've known that. But it's it's okay.

1668
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So but again, getting back to the main topic here

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of why should cats be kept inside, I'll let you

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break that down for our audience.

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Definitely. Well, it's important to remember we did talk, of course,

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about the threats of illness that they that cat's face outside.

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Something else that I really want to reiterate to everyone

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01:29:23.119 --> 01:29:28.199
who's listening is we every single day at Peter we

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get shocking reports of people attacking the cats outside, multiple

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reports a day. We get stories all the time of

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people setting cats on fire, yeah, beating them to death,

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stabbing them, poisoning them, shooting them. We're seeing this all

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across the country. And what's so heartbreaking is that preventing

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these deaths it's as simple as just keeping them inside

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01:29:56.680 --> 01:30:00.439
where they belong and where it's safe and where and

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01:30:00.560 --> 01:30:03.920
where they're loved exactly, because we don't have any idea

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01:30:04.000 --> 01:30:06.600
when we let our cats outside. We have no idea

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01:30:06.600 --> 01:30:09.159
who's out there, We don't have any clue what kind

1685
01:30:09.159 --> 01:30:12.039
of threats are going to be facing. So indoors is

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always the best place for cats.

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Yeah, you wouldn't let your little kids go outside just wandering.

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About, right, exactly exactly.

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And so.

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And why should people?

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You know, we kind of touched on this a little bit,

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you know, people, even people who don't own cats or

1693
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even care about cats, why should they care about this issue?

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Well, no kind person, of course, wants to see a

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01:30:37.199 --> 01:30:41.079
cat suffer or be hurt, you know. And cats allowed

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to roam outside, we have to remember they decimate local

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populations of birds and wildlife. So it's in all animals'

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01:30:50.199 --> 01:30:54.479
best interests for cats to be kept inside. And honestly,

1699
01:30:54.600 --> 01:30:56.840
some of the people who care the most about cats

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01:30:56.960 --> 01:31:00.239
being left outdoors don't even have cats. They just don't

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want cats roaming in their yards or killing birds at

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their feeders because that's.

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What they do.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's a target rich area.

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You get about a minute and a half left here,

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let's touch on a trap neuter release programs.

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What's going on there?

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01:31:18.600 --> 01:31:21.800
Yeah, so trap neuter release, that's exactly what it sounds.

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Cats homeless cats are trapped, they're either spade or neutered,

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and then they're released back outside. And it's important to

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remember that whether they're homeless or part of a family,

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all cats are domesticated and they depend on humans for

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their necessities. You know, their food, their water, shelter, veterinary care,

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01:31:41.640 --> 01:31:45.399
and T and R. For cats, this actually really means trap,

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01:31:45.640 --> 01:31:50.039
neuter and re abandon and cats outside you know, they're

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01:31:50.079 --> 01:31:54.680
guaranteed a short, miserable life. Three to five years max

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01:31:54.840 --> 01:31:58.159
is the average lifespan, like we said. And when cats

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01:31:58.199 --> 01:32:02.960
are released outdoors, they offer from dehydration and starvation and

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01:32:03.079 --> 01:32:07.800
parasites and upper respiratory infections. And the heartbreaking thing is

1720
01:32:07.920 --> 01:32:10.399
these cats they don't have any access to veterinary care,

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01:32:10.600 --> 01:32:14.159
so they're suffering from all these illnesses. They're not given

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01:32:14.199 --> 01:32:17.800
any medication and a lot of times they die very

1723
01:32:18.000 --> 01:32:23.560
slow and painful deaths as a result. And again, like

1724
01:32:23.680 --> 01:32:26.359
we said, when a cat isn't a victim, a cat

1725
01:32:26.479 --> 01:32:30.079
is a predator. And on average, a cat outdoors will

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01:32:30.159 --> 01:32:33.159
kill two hundred and fifty birds and other animals every

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01:32:33.239 --> 01:32:36.880
single year. So wow, that's why PETA does not support

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01:32:37.079 --> 01:32:40.479
tea in our programs. We definitely support Spain and neutering,

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01:32:41.039 --> 01:32:43.920
but t in our programs, all that's doing is just

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releasing animals back outside to face all these threats.

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Exactly.

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Well, Sarah MacFarlane, we got to leave it there. Sarah

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is a spokesperson for People for the Ethical Treatment of

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Animals PETA. Sarah, where can people go for more information?

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You can just come on over to our website Peter

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dot org. We have all the tips you need to

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give your cat a fulfilled and enriched life indoors, and

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we also have all the information you need to know

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thank you, thank you so much.

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Hey, good morning, Welcome back Bill Martinez here. Great to

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have you with us. Great to have our friend doctor

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Sharon Ford from Focus on the Family with us. Hey,

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doctor Ford, how are you?

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I'm well, Bill, how are you today?

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Hey, I'm doing terrific.

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You know, November is such a great month in lots

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of ways, but especially you know, because it's National Adoption Month,

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and I love that we're talking more about adoption these days.

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We have hundreds of thousands of kids that are looking

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for forever homes, of families that are looking, you know,

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to build a family, and we just need to get

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these elements together to make this happen.

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Right.

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That's so correct, Bill, so correct.

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By the grace of God. And he will well, he's

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been faithful. There's no doubt about it.

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Then we have many kids in this month of November, that's,

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as I mentioned, is national Adoption month.

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Have found there forever family? Have they not?

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You bet?

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There are children who just this month were in court

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with their foster families and walking in the courtroom as

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a child in foster care and leaving the courtroom with

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a new last name because they were adopted.

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Isn't that cool? Can you imagine?

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I mean, here you go in and how momentous is

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that you go in and as Sally Jones and you

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come out and you're Sally Thomas, and you've got siblings,

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and you've got a mother and a family, and you know,

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and this is just so I mean, it really makes

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makes my eyes well up with emotion because I think

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how how precious this is, uh and meaningful for the

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child and for the families, the family that chose this

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child to bring them into their family.

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Right, the chosen That's correct?

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I love that?

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Yeah? Yeah?

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So uh so here it is these children who spent

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many years, uh in tough years. I mean, sometimes you

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want to complain because you think God's not moving fast enough.

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But these kids have been in a sense, they've been

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in limbo you know, and maybe in some cases experiencing

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you know, several foster homes and uh and and it's

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not you know, I mean it's tough. It's it's tough

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all the way around. But when you find that home

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and that family, Wow, what a miracle, hunh It.

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Is a miracle, just like marriage. You know, God puts

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people together and he does it for a lifetime. And

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these children who have suffered experienced abuse and neglect, educational neglect,

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a medical neglect, now are in a family that is

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loving and nurturing and supportive of them.

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And God made it happen. Yeah.

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Well, you know, the thing is still we have people

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who go overseas and they're adopting children overseas, and there

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are barriers. And I think that Donald Trump and the

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administration is addressing some of these regulations that impede the

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process to where you know, right now, what have we

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got fifty fifty thousand children of all ages that are

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available for adoption right now? And you don't have to

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deal through some embassy and paying off an embassy and

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some other you know, government official in order to even

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start the conversation, right.

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That is correct?

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01:40:48.720 --> 01:40:51.520
And you know what those fifty thousand children are wondering,

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will somebody come for me? Will somebody say I want

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you as my son, I want you as my daughter.

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And for the kids who are with their siblings, will

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you take us all? There kids, four, four siblings, five siblings,

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Will you take us all and keep us together? We

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want family?

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Yeah, you know.

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And the thing that's so cool about that, and these

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families that have the capacity to be able to take

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on a family, you know, they may adopt one child

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01:41:21.319 --> 01:41:23.600
and the child goes. You know, I still I got

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a sister and two brothers that are still out there,

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and bless their hearts.

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I mean, they step up and next thing, you know.

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They're family gross exponentially.

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But with it the blessing Sharon, right.

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That is so so true.

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You know.

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I was with a gentleman just last week and he said, well,

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when the little boy said what about my brother? Can

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my brother come too? And he's like, WHOA said to

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his wife, well we can't just take the one and

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not the other. Yeah, and so they took both.

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I was like, yes, yes, well, God bless them for

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doing that. Now again, we talked fifty children of all ages,

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right that are that are waiting adoption and I'll tell you,

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you know, tell us some stories, Sharon, because you always

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have great stories to tell, you know, with these families

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that experience this, that go from you know, anywhere from Hey,

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I never.

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Thought I would accept it.

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In fact, Alex Kendrick tells a great story about how

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he got involved with adoption and even how he made

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a note unbeknownst to himself. He was reading his Bible

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and he made a note on his Bible on this

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specific day, and his wife had already thought about adoption

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but didn't know how to bring it up. But it

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was amazing how God worked in their lives, and then

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that note that he had in his Bible.

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When they adopted their daughter, it was like, oh my gosh.

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You know, it's like the veil was pulled back. Everything

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was revealed and was such a blessing. But anyway, I

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want to hear some more of your stories, you.

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Know, Bill.

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I was talking with a pastor and he said, you know,

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I'm a little old And I said, what do you mean,

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pastor years?

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Little old?

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He said, you know, I was here being a cheerleader

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because I had met you and you said that there

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were kids who needed families. He said, so I was

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talking to my congregation about there are kids in our

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backyard who need a family, he said. And I was just,

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you know, cheering my congregation on preaching the gospel about

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what James Win twenty seven says, take care of the

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widows and the orphans and Psalm sixty eight six Gods,

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that's the lonely families. He said. In Lo and behold,

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I go to an event and I see a child,

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a picture of a child, and God said, that's your child.

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And he said. He took a couple of steps back,

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and he's like.

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I bind these Satan in the name of Jesus.

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And he said, okay, and he got a hold of himself.

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He said, that's not Satan talking to me, that's God

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talking to me. And I want you to know that

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to day that pastor has adopted a sibling group of two,

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a boy and a girl, and they are today in

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their teens, and they were finished. Their youngest child at

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that time was like two years from graduating from high school.

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And he said, but God said, this is these are

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my kids. And he said, I couldn't.

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Tell God no.

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And so I laugh every time I hear his voice,

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every time I see him he points his finger at

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and he goes, because of you, and I was like, no,

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because of God.

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Amen.

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So yes, it's because of God. God calls families to

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welcome the lonely, the fatherless into their homes. Those children

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wouldn't know God, They wouldn't know what kindness and gentleness

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and loving care looks like if it wasn't for the

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body of Christ stepping up and making a difference. Let

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01:44:59.720 --> 01:45:02.720
me tell you this other story. There's a woman who

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you know, was just becoming She was a Costa volunteer,

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a court appointed special advocate, and so she was signed

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to a case and her husband said, oh, that itch

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01:45:16.920 --> 01:45:18.680
that you had thinking, you know, you wanted to be

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01:45:18.760 --> 01:45:21.840
a foster parent, adopted parent. Scratch that itch by being

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a Costa volunteer. So she did, well, guess what. She

1972
01:45:26.159 --> 01:45:30.800
meets this young girl and eventually meets her the young

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girl's brother, and she goes tells her her husband, Honey,

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that itch, that scratch you know, it's still itching, is

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01:45:39.399 --> 01:45:42.319
still still itching. And he said, well, what do you

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01:45:42.359 --> 01:45:46.039
think we should do about it? And he said, I

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forget the name of the song that was playing on

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the radio when he was driving home from work, and

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he heard that song and he called his wife and said, Honey,

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I know how we're going to scratch that itch. We're

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gonna welcome those children into our home.

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Wow.

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God speaks in different ways to people about well, bike,

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a song, a conversation. But ultimately they went down in

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prayer and asked God, God, is this how you want

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to use our family? And when God told them yes,

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they didn't hesitate. They moved forward. And so what is

1988
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your yes to God?

1989
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That's my question?

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What is God calling you to?

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Yeah? Exactly.

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And you know, and I think that one of the

1993
01:46:30.960 --> 01:46:33.880
last times we talked, we talked about this small church

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that was you know, they weren't a wealthy they weren't

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a wealthy church. The community itself, you know, probably low

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01:46:41.960 --> 01:46:44.359
middle class, you might say, maybe even lower than low

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01:46:44.399 --> 01:46:48.800
middle class. But they saw a situation in their community

1998
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where there were a lot of children that were without homes.

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And the pastor God put it on his heart. He

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01:46:56.560 --> 01:47:00.000
presented to the people and they sharing, They all but eradicated.

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01:47:00.479 --> 01:47:03.960
They resolved the problem. This little church, right.

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Yes, yes, he's been at chapel, been at chapel in

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Possum Trot, Texas.

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I love it.

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I love it.

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I've been to that church.

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Oh my god.

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It's in the rural part of Texas. But family after

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family after family in that little church stood up and said, Pastor,

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I'll take one. Pastor, I'll take one. And he said,

2011
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before they knew it, they had seventy seven children. I

2012
01:47:28.880 --> 01:47:32.159
think I have that number right. Seventy seven children came

2013
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through foster care and got there forever family and were adopted.

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And yes, the pastor and his wife adopted a child too.

2015
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And so if you've seen the movie Sound of Hope,

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that is a true story of Bishop Martin and his

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wife who first became foster parents and then adopted all

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because God spoke to his wife's heart and said, care

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for the.

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Children, right exactly. Do you imagine what kind of Thanksgiving

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01:48:00.520 --> 01:48:01.319
they're having this year?

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What a feast, What a feast. I'm telling you lots

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to be thankful for.

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Now.

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We've only got about a minute left.

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But I also wanted to touch on the educational transitions

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for these kids.

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Can you address that?

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Go ahead?

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You know, Bill, kids sometimes who enter the foster care

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system are educationally neglected. They're very much behind in school.

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Their birth families, for whatever reason, didn't couldn't get up

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01:48:32.119 --> 01:48:34.520
and get them to school every day so that they

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could get their educational needs met. And so when you

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01:48:37.279 --> 01:48:40.279
think about a child who enters foster care, because of

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01:48:40.319 --> 01:48:42.840
where the foster families are, they might not go to

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the same school. And so can you imagine as an

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01:48:45.960 --> 01:48:49.960
elementary school, you're leaving behind even middle school, high school,

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You're leaving behind the people that you know, and now

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01:48:53.319 --> 01:48:55.600
you're going to a new school. Now you're having to

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01:48:55.720 --> 01:49:00.439
try to play ketchup your educational needs matter. Gosh, everything

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01:49:00.520 --> 01:49:04.720
that we do working, you know, going to college, how

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01:49:04.800 --> 01:49:07.319
do you get how do you achieve those goals if

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01:49:07.399 --> 01:49:10.359
you don't have a solid education behind you. And so

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01:49:10.560 --> 01:49:14.079
foster families and adoptive families when they step in, pour

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01:49:14.239 --> 01:49:17.439
into those children, helping them to read, helping them to write,

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helping them to get back on target. Can you imagine

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01:49:20.880 --> 01:49:24.319
a child who has dyslexia but nobody's ever diagnosed that

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01:49:24.920 --> 01:49:28.520
getting that important thing taken care of so that they

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01:49:28.600 --> 01:49:31.960
can learn and grow and education makes all the difference

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01:49:32.000 --> 01:49:34.359
in the world. And that can happen with the loving

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01:49:34.439 --> 01:49:36.960
family who can get those kids back on track again.

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01:49:37.760 --> 01:49:40.600
Well, doctor Sharon Forward, thank you so much. For visiting

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with us and giving us an update on National Adoption Month.

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She's focused on the family's director of foster Care and Adoption.

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Where can the folks go for more information and find

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out about adoption bill.

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They can go to our Focus on the Families Foster

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Care and Adoption website. Wait No More dot org, Wait

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