Nov. 24, 2025

The Bill Martinez Show 11 24 25

The Bill Martinez Show 11 24 25
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The Bill Martinez Show 11 24 25
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Are you ready?

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Yeah?

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OK, do it?

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Ill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Hey, good morning America. Good to have you with us.

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Six minutes out for the top of the hour right now.

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I'm Bill Martinez. She is Brigitte Gabriel, the national security analyst,

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New York Times bestselling author and chairman of act for

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America dot Org. Her latest bestseller, of course, is Rise Brigitte.

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Good to have you met with Back with us has

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been a minute or two, but we need to hear

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from you, lady.

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I thank you, Bill, I'm delighted to be back with you.

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Well, I'll tell you a lot of people are focusing

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on Mamdanie, understandably, the New York mayor alert elect. But

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as you pointed out, there is so much more. That's

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just a tip of the iceberg. I mean, we're looking

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what something like forty two Muslims were elected in this

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last election across the country.

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Yes they are.

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Forty two Muslim candidates were elected to office seventy six

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rand and forty two got elected to some of the

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most important and impactful jurisdictions in the country.

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You've got six mayors.

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So while all eyes were focused on Mandani, you know,

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Mandanni's running for office. Six mayors were elected, a twenty

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councilman to the councilman position for state legislatures, two judges,

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six school board members. Three are still three other positions

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are still outweighing recount, et cetera. This has been built

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this last week, this last election has been the most impactful,

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sweeping victory for the Islamic lobby and Islamic infiltration into

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our municipalities and our government across the country ever in

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the history of America.

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And you've been warning about this, Brigitte, I mean since

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what was it, nineteen ninety one? The Muslim Brotherhood came

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out and said this is this is our plan. They

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laid it out, they didn't hide it from anybody. You've

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been reporting sounding the alarm. Is this what it's going

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to take? Or do we just really have to suffer

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even more so before we realize that this great American

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idea is in jeopardy.

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You know, I hope people wake up Bill before it's

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too late. I mean, look, Mamdani got elected that yes,

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he got a lot of votes, but a lot of

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people got elected because our side did not turn out

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to vote. As you know, apathy is our problem. It's

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not that, oh my gosh, the other side is very organized.

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Apathy is our problem, and that's why we need. If

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we organize half as much as the Islamists are organized

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in this country, we will be able to stop the

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Rashida clives, the ill hand Omar, you know, all these

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people that are running for office, who who are not

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compatible with our laws, who want to transform our country.

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I mean, when ill han Omar has a Somali flag

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in her office, why is she serving Somalia or the

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United States, where she not life, has a Palestinian flag

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in her office, Why is she serving America or is

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she representing the Palestinian people. Last time I checked, she

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was elected in America by Americans, not by Palestinians in Gaza.

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And so we have to organize and mobilize.

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And that's exactly Bill why we at Act for America,

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my organization, are launching our twenty six for twenty twenty

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six campaign. We if you are concerned about what's happening

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in our country, if you are concerned about what's gonna happen.

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In twenty twenty six, by the way.

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Thank god this election happened now because at Houston gives

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a Republican one year to wake up and organize. Can

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you imagine if this was actually the materm election.

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Oh so we were Oh.

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My gosh, they were paralyzed President Trump, he would not

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be able to do anything. We will be all tied

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up in courts. And that's why we're telling people we've

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got a year to organize to make sure we win

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the twenty twenty six elections. Go to Act for America

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dot org right now, click on join us, start a

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chapter in your community, sign up to volunteer, sign up

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to get our emails and action alerts. If you don't

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have time to start a chapter, If you don't have

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time to volunteer, stand with us financially. Donate twenty six

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dollars that will support our twenty twenty six campaign. Everybody

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can do something at whatever level they are in life.

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If you don't have money, volunteer. If you have a

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little extra time, you can start a chapter. Start a chapter.

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We will train you, we will mentor you, We will

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connect you with the other people in your community who

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share your passion and love for our country.

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Everybody can do something exactly.

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Well, you know when our founding father said that this

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is a government of for buy we the people. Just

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by that very statement, it it really demands that the

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people be activated.

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Brigitte exactly.

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And that's why I named my organization Act for America.

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Bill. Now think about America and out for America.

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Now, pray for America, but act for America because we

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all should think and help and pray for our country.

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And we all do.

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We all pray for you know, God bless America forgotness sake.

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You know it's in our national anthem. But we need

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to act for America. And when we are activated, nothing

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can stop us.

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Again.

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Empathy is our biggest enemy. People think, oh, well I'm

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too busy, I don't have time. Somebody else is going

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to do that. Somebody else is going to volunteer, somebody

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else is going to sign up to be a chapter leader,

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somebody else is going to donate. And you know what,

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everybody puts it off on somebody else, and that's how

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we end up losing election. Let this be your defining moment.

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I mean, we need to be mobilized. Look what's happening

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in Texas. So Governor Abbott just designated Care and amost

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the Brothers terrorist organizations. Well, he actually used the research

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that we have provided and the work that we have

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done in Texas for decades. The first time we introduced

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an anti Sharia bill in Texas was in twenty ten.

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It's called American Laws for American Courts.

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It took us seven.

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Years bill to finally pass it in Texas. It took

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us seven years till twenty seventeen.

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Who would have.

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Thought that in Texas we will have such a fight

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to pass the bill that says that the Constitution is

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the highest authority of the land. But you know what,

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if you don't hold your electri officials accountable for their votes,

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you know they're going to vote whatever who's pressuring them

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the most. We need to pressure them the most, not

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the Islamic lobby, not Care, not the Muslim brotherhood.

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We need to do that.

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Have you been following the money, Brigitte from Care and

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into what treasuries or what election treasuries that that money

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is going into in terms of the politician and political

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lunch that they're buying.

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Of course, you know they have a pack. They have

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actually a super pack. They have a federal superpack.

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But they are raising money from the Islamic population.

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Again, the Muslim community is giving money because they all

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have an end goal and everybody is willing to chip

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in a little bit to accomplish that goal. That's how

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CARE is raising its money. They take all this money.

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They tell their members, we need weapons in our conference.

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I mean, you know, virtual, you know virtual, you know,

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obviously we need bullets and our machinery and able for

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us in order for us to win this war against

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Muslims in America. So everybody chips in a little bit,

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you know. They become monthly Patriot partners. Twenty dollars a month,

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thirty dollars a month, fifty dollars a month. They raise money.

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Some people give a thousand, two thousand and five thousand.

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They are raising their money from the people. They are

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then taking this money and funding activists on the ground

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and funding electrofish. Right now, Care is putting together a

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directory for the twenty twenty six elections where they're gonna

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run candidates for the midterms. We thought, oh my gosh,

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you know, we had Mandani. We didn't have Mandani.

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We had forty two exactly.

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Can you imagine how many they're going to run and

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fund this year to run in the midterm election.

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Wake up America. We need to be organized.

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Well, the Democrats as a party, I mean, they've been

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concerned that a lot of the old guard is going

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to get primaried right and leading the charge is going

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to be care And these Islamists that you're talking about.

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Yeah, because what's happening right now, Bill is they are

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working together. The left and the Islamists have come together.

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And my last book titled Rise in Defense of Judaeo

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Christian Values and Freedom, I have a whole chapter titled

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the Leftist Islamist Coalition how they locked shields together.

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So this is why you saw with mom Donnie.

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You had the Islamist and the leftist working together, and

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they're doing the same thing across the country.

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And the leftists, I'll tight anyway, we gotta go, we

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gotta go to quick break. Let's talk more about it

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Nutrition for Patriots, and we're back with you.

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Brigitte Gabriel, of course, the New York Times bestselling author.

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Her book Rise and captured a lot of attention. But

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now you got to we need more attention. We need activation, right, Brigitte.

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Absolutely, we need activation. We need people to walk the walk,

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follow their words. A lot of people and here's the

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problem on our side, Bill, A lot of people think.

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When I ask people are you active? Are you engaged?

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And they said to me, all, Brigitte, I am very active.

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I attend the Republican Party luncheon once a month. You know,

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we have great speakers. Of course, everybody eats the Robert Chicken.

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They kept their picture with the speaker. You know, everybody

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feels so good about themselves. They tap themselves in the shoulders, thinking,

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oh wow, we had a great meeting this month. How

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are we going to bring you next month? They say

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to me, opproagite. We at ten conferences. I go to

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spec I go to I listen to talk radio. I'm

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very active. That's not activism. That's entertainment. There's a big

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difference between entertainment and activism. Activism is when you put

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in a group in your community, when you start working

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together and organizing in your community, not going to a

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conference and getting your picture taken with whatever speaker and

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oh my god, it was great, and everybody gets so

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excited that they go home and seven days later they

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have no idea.

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They can't remember a thing, they have no idea what

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to do. How our problem is not lack of information.

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Our problem is a lack of what to do with

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the information that we know and we listen to. So

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this is their Opportunity Act for America dot org.

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Right, check it out. And get involved, activate your citizen

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and ship because guess what, you know, it comes down

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to either your winning or losing. And what this last

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election demonstrated. I know it's hard for some Republicans to swallow,

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but you got your butt kicked.

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Yep, yeah they did.

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And so you know you've got to you've got to

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push back because guess what they're not. You know, they're

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not sitting back on their laurels. Right, And as you said,

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I mean when you're talking about forty two and you

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could end up with as many as maybe forty four

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forty five offices that they attained, and then that should

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be a poortend of what's going to happen in the

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midterms just a year away.

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That's right.

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And Bill seventy six rand forty two one seventy six rand.

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If seventy six rand two weeks ago in this last election,

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how many are they going to put up in the

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mid term in twenty twenty six exactly?

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How many and how many more.

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Are going to win? This is what we have to

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think about as Republicans. We need you are absolutely correct.

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They got their toush handed to them, and it was

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because of empathy. And here's The other thing about the left,

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whether they like their candidate or not, they all show

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up and vote for the party, for their ideology, for

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their ideas. On our side, If they're not excited about

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the candidate, I don't.

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Want to go vote. I don't know, I don't like

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so and so.

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We base our voting whether we agree with so and

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so on one hundred percent on the issues that death

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doesn't care.

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If they have a D next to their name.

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They're gonna elect them, and they're gonna go up in force,

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and they're gonna show up and they're gonna vote for them,

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and they're gonna volunteer for them, and they're gonna give

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them money, and they're gonna knock on doors, and they're

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gonna get their friends to come out and vote our side.

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If they're not excited about the candidate, they would literally

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sit it out and make everybody else lose on the

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ticket because him feel like it because they didn't like

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the candidate. We need to break out of that mindset.

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ran on hating Trump regime. I mean, here ten months

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in his second administration, what he's done on behalf of

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the country is miraculous and the people. But what they

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hear from the mainstream media, even though they have less

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influence than they've had, you know, over the last couple

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of decades, I get that, but they still have influence.

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And when you look at what they report on Trump,

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still ninety five ninety six percent of what they report

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on Trump is negative. It's to the point of where

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it's even pushing up the numbers to where you know,

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I think, what over twenty percent of the people are

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okay with the president getting assassinated?

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Yeah exactly. I mean, look what happened in Virginia.

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You had a spamberger wyn Well, you had Jones talking

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about how he wants to kill and a lot a

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peaceful man, and he's exactly and nobody condemned him elected

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and they won.

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Well, the Republicans.

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Lost in Virginia, right, And it's not because the Democrats

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were very organized. It's because the Republicans did not come

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out and.

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Vote, exactly. And the thing is is basically what was

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on the line, yeah, Jay Jones was that was just terrible.

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It was horrendous, amazing that he even got elected. He

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is the head of law enforcement in the state and

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offering I mean and making this kind of statement, these

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type you know of threatening and just horrific statements like

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he made, he doesn't deserve to be in office. Uh.

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You know, there's a really you question the civility and

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the morality of Virginians that would elect him. And like

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you said, Republicans sat out. But when you look at

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you know, uh, when when the previous governor won, you know,

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a lot of the same was carrying over still four

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years later. I mean, what did the people forget that

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they're still allowing you know, Left still wants boys and

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girls' locker rooms. I mean, what's going on here exactly?

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And that's why we have to keep our eyes open

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and organize at the local level and make sure we

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pressure our elected officials to do the job they were

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elected to do, whether they're on their Republican side. The

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Democrats do that with their elected officials our side. They

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get somebody elected, you know, and then maybe they call

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them once about an.

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Issue and that's it.

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Then Left is calling our elected officials on the Republican

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side every single day. They don't care if they call

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them twenty times about a single issue until that issue

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is taken care of. Our tride complain about it, They

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talk to their next door neighbor. Maybe they make one

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phone call and they think, oh, I've done my job.

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I called so and so and I express my opinion.

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That's not how it works, right.

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Well. The other thing, too is I think people are

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deluded in thinking, you know, all these issues are eighty

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twenty ninety ten issues, that sort of thing, and they

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just say, what's common sense? Why why would you not

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you know, vote with that.

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People did?

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They voted against an eighty twenty especially the Democratic Party

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in mass lockstep. I mean to the point that here

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it is, they shut down our government for forty three days, Brigitte,

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How stupid is that?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly.

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But you know what, we have a voter class in

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our country, the young, the lefties, the socialists, the Marxists,

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who are now basically gaining control of the Democratic Party,

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and they are voting, and they are organizing, and they're

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voting on emotions.

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They have zero knowledge, zero knowledge.

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This is the generation that got passed from one grade

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to another grade because we did not want to hurt

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their feelings.

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Right, the performance trophy generation.

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Right, that's right exactly. They do not know anything about

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socialists and you ask them, what would you know? I asked,

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are you stop any twenty two year old to it

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who is for socialism? And ask them tell me why

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are you a socialist?

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They cannot even define what a socialist is.

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They can't even tell you what socialism is exactly.

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By golly.

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They are engaged and they are active our side. They

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can talk to you, they can write you a book

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about a topic because they listen for three hours a

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day to talk radio. Either they watch Fox News at

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Night or Newsmax and they listen to this podcast and

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that podcast, and boy, they are informed on the issue,

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but they're not active.

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So who is At the end of the day.

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Those who are active, you don't need to learn too

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much about the subject. You need to make pick up

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that phone, call committe with your elector officials and light

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a fire under your electro officials.

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Yeah, after lighting a fire under yourself. Because what you're saying, Brigitte,

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is we have to match the passion, right.

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We're not matching passion exactly.

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Yeah, and this is why we're getting our head handed

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to us. And it's like, okay, is this the kind

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of America? The trajectory that's right now is that what

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you're going to be proud of to hand over to

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your grandkids and your great grandkids.

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Yeah, exactly, exactly, And that's why people need to be

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engaged and look if they're not willing to do that,

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if you guys, by the way, we made it so

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easy and simple. We have a program with a called

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act Now on our website, so we send an email.

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We monitor all bills coming down for a vote. We

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send you an email or a vote, whatever topic happening.

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A perfect example, Texas passes shari A law and the

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shari A law yesterday and they designate Care and the

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Brothers as a terrorist organization. We send an email out

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to our membership today nationwide with an act now campaign

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directed at all states in the United States, directed at governors,

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a local state legislature, including lieutenant governor, et cetera, and

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to pass to follow in the footsteps of Texas. We

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have the email already written for you. You click on

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take action. The email goes directed to your electric official.

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We have social media posts written for you, we have

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tweets written for you. We even give you their phone number,

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and we give you a script so you can read

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while you are talking with them on the phone.

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We make it so easy.

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Then, so we're talking. Maybe we're talking maybe five to

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ten minutes a day.

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Seconds we're thirty seconds. With a push of a button,

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you can make it happen.

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Well again again. The website they need to go to

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as we wrap things up, Brigitte, go ahead.

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They need to go to Act for America dot org.

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Right now. Join us, click on, join us, start a chapter,

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Hey, good morning, Welcome, Glad you joined us. I'm Bill Martinez,

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john Sameric from stream dot org and also a Are

554
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you officially an editor or a contributor? To a Chronicles magazine.

555
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What's the official title there.

556
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I'm I'm just a columnist, but I've been writing for

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Chronicles Magazine since nineteen ninety two.

558
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They were the.

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First place ever to publish. They are the best conservative

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magazine in America.

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To my mind, I gotta tell you, I love I

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love the magazine. I mean, in fact, I really feel

563
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ignorant that it took me this long to find out

564
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about it, John, So thank you for turning me on

565
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to it.

566
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Chroniclesmagazine dot org. They were right about immigration, they were

567
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right about the Iraq War, they were right about the

568
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UN interfering in Yugoslavia back in the nineties. They were

569
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right about Trump. And they always were sort of written

570
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off as cranks, but they were actually prophetic, kind of

571
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like pathy. Cannon Patrikannan saw where we were going, accurately

572
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predicted it. Everybody said, oh, what an alarmis nutcase, And

573
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now tragically for him, he's been proved right. He remembered

574
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the Iliad, there was the woman Cassandra. She had the

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gift of prophecy, but she had the curse that no

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one would believe her. So she warned them not to

577
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fight the Greek she warned them not to take the

578
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trojan horse in. They never listened to her. Well, that

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that's the position of chronicles like Papuchanan.

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We told you so, right, Yeah, well and that's and

581
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that's the thing John, And more and more there are

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voices like this, the voice of reason. Uh maybe not

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necessarily prophetically gifted. But you know, because some of this

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stuff is is pretty basic. You can see the trajectory,

585
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you can see what, you know, kind of impact this

586
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is having on where the culture is moving. And then

587
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you look back historically and you go, oh, my goodness,

588
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it happened there. It happened there, It happened there, right,

589
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and it just seems to be a pattern because you know,

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we're just humanoids, right, We're not as genius as we'd like. Anyway,

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Look at, I want to talk about something you touched

592
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on at stream dot org your column there, and that

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is about this Christian genocide that's taking place in Nigeria. Now,

594
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Trump declared Nigeria a country of particular concern. Now, in

595
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I guess the vulgate of world politics, that means something

596
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that allows you to do some things legally. And meanwhile,

597
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the Nigerian president, Bola Tanubo there says, hey, move on,

598
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nothing to see here, but let's ignore, you know, the

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murder of something like fifty They're saying anywhere between fifty

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and one hundred thousand Christians and nineteen thousand churches have

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been attacked or destroyed that since two thousand and nine John,

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and it continues to this very moment.

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This is what Islam does wherever it goes. What we

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need to understand is and I'm working on a film

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documentary about this. What's at the heart of the Christian message,

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the great commission go out and make disciples of all

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the world.

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Right.

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That is, I would say, the heart of Christianity. It's

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shared by every Christian denomination. What is that the heart

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of Islam? It is not to go out and convince

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people that Islam is true. That's a secondary mission that's

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called dawah. That is down the priority list. At the

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top is jihad. Jihad religious war conquest is the highest

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duty of every Muslim man. People who die in battle

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fighting for Islam are considered to be the greatest saints

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in Islam. Not mystics now, people who do charity, not

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people who teach prayer, but warriors. The method that Islam

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has used to make converts around the world since the

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time of Muhammad himself, has been conquer a region, either

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by military conquests or by flooding the country with immigrants.

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Muslim authorities talk about the duty to emigrate, to go

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to other countries and have lots of children and take over.

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They take over and then they impose Sharia, which means

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kind of a jim crow system that everyone who's not

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a Muslim is treated like a third class citizen. They're

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meant to be humiliated, they're meant to be discriminated against,

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they pay a special tax. This gradually wears down the

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population who are sick of living that way, so they

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become Muslims. That is how tiny armies of Arabs that

631
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conquered Egypt and Tunisia and Morocco and Syria and Iraq,

632
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tiny armies of Muslim Arabs managed to impose their religion

633
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over the course of a few hundred years on the

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local population. Because over the course of time, people get

635
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beaten down and they're sick of living that way, and

636
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they don't want their children to be born into third

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class status. So the duty of jihad is at the

638
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essence of the Muslim faith. It is a religion of conquest.

639
00:33:56.079 --> 00:34:00.359
It's some people claim it's not really a really religion,

640
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that it's just a terrorist cult. And I think it

641
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is a political supremacy movement and a religion at the

642
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same time.

643
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Right, Yeah, it parades as a religious entity, but most

644
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definitively it is a political movement, a coercive one. And

645
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the thing that it can be a bit confusing because

646
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even in Nigeria, the moderate you know, the moderate Muslims

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who just want to get along. And of course it's

648
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confusing for us here on the West because we see

649
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Muslims in a way that you know, it's danger. Will Robinson,

650
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you know what I'm saying.

651
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Well, the American Constitution was not written for mass immigration

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of Muslims and Hindus and other non biblical religions. It

653
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was not written with that in mind. The First Amendment,

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which guarantees the free exercise of religion. They were thinking

655
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of different types of Protestants, Jews, and maybe a few Catholics.

656
00:35:03.360 --> 00:35:07.719
The way the Constitution is written, it's like there's a

657
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:10.559
hole in the software. There's a loophole in the software.

658
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There's a trojan horse, and Muslims are using that trojan horse. Now,

659
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the George W. Bush administration back in the nineties, I'm

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sorry that the Yeah, I think it was ninety.

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Yeah, you're talking about eight Minnesota, right, right, I definitely

662
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George W.

663
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Bush right decided that Minnesota didn't have enough diversity. In

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other words, there were too many white people, and they

665
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had to fix that problem. They had there was a

666
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gaping hole. There were not enough non Christians, non Whites,

667
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non Europeans. So they brought thousands of Somali tribesmen exactly,

668
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they flew them over a dozen safe Muslim countries where

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they could have had been refugees, and they brought them

670
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to Minnesota and settled these desert tribesmen in snowy Minnesota. Now,

671
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the mayor's race in Minneapolis had to be decided by

672
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a white liberal Democrat exploiting the tribal divisions of different

673
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Somali tribes in order to get elected mayor of Minneapolis.

674
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This is like something out of a sci fi novel. Meanwhile,

675
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we find out that Somali's in Minnesota are falsely claiming

676
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that their children have autism on a huge scale to

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funnel money to terrorist militias. Back in Somalia to fight

678
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a civil war. Billions of dollars of American taxpayer money

679
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are going to buy guns for Somali tribesmen back in Somalia.

680
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This is what immigration does. Large scale Third World immigration

681
00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:50.760
brings the third World here. The platform of the neocons,

682
00:36:50.920 --> 00:36:55.719
the George Bush Dick Cheney types was basically, invade the world.

683
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Invite the world, go bomb Affghanistan until you turn it

684
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into New Hampshire and bring Afghanistan here. Bring Afghanistan to

685
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New Hampshire. It's fine, it's no problem. Because all human

686
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beings are interchangeable production consumption units. You shouldn't love your

687
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brother or sister or spouse any more than you love

688
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some foreigner third in the Third World practicing a religion

689
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that hates you. They're interchangeable. There are no human ties

690
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of any moral importance. Everybody is just a mouth and

691
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a pair of hands, and that's it. That degrading, subhuman

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view was presented as Christian charity. It was presented as

693
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the Gospel. Of course, the Vatican is peddling this garbage,

694
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demanding open borders for every European descended country. Western Europe

695
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and America must have open borders. The Vatican never complains

696
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when Botswana or Pakistan or Japan enforced their immigration laws.

697
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It's only white countries, Western countries that have to have

698
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open borders that have to dissolve themselves into a multicultural

699
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soup where people are at each other's throats. Exactly did

700
00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:15.559
you just see what just happened in New York? Mobs

701
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:21.599
of Muslim immigrants attacking a synagogue over what's happened in Gaza,

702
00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:24.519
which is over. They think they were trying to stop

703
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an Israel affiliated event at a synagogue on the Upper

704
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East Side of New York. I've been to that synagogue,

705
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Park East. It's a lovely place. And the idea that

706
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the people can't go in and out of it because

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of these Arab invaders screaming anti Semitic abuse at them.

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It makes me sick.

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I'm with you. Got to go to quick break more

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from Doctor John's America after this.

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Everything is expensive right now, gas, food, you name it.

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You're spending more. You are making the same or less money.

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So what do you do?

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You rack up credit card debt, That's what you do.

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It's not your fault, it's the economy. And guess what

716
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if you rack up too much credit card debt. Like

717
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some of us, you can't pay your bills. Then the

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credit card companies, as nice as they are, start hounding

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you for money. Then you start your downward spiral. A

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Okay, we're back with you. Fourteen minutes before the top

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of the r Bill Martinez here, doctor John Samerica. He is, well,

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you are a four.

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Or with the stream that you're Oh, I'm I'm still

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a senior editor at this war, but I do a

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lot of my my essays over at Chronicles Magazine. I'm

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getting mostly video stuff for the stream.

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Now excellent, Okay, well, good now that you got to

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handle on that. I do want to say this about

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the Vatican. I would think that when the Vatican decides

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to open up their gates and walls and take on

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all these immigrants into the Vatican, maybe they should be

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they should be the example to the world of what

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they're preaching.

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Right right, let the Vatican is an absolute monarchy like

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the Tsar of Russia. It has maybe two hundred citizens

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they don't get to vote on anything. It has trillions

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of dollars in assets. The Vatican has not gone to

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the gypsies in Rome and said, look, we're going to

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make you Vatican citizens and you can vote on how

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to dispose of all these Renaissance paintings and statues that

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we own and all this real estate we own. No,

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the Vatican's not doing that. It's saying to Americans though,

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that we have to do that. We have to let

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the whole third world move here and then confiscate our

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stuff and redistributed among themselves.

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Right well, John, just in one final summary here, the

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thing that's so confusing for us on the West is

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you have, you know, like I said, you have this

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category of moderate Muslims that want to get along, but

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they're diluted and confusing to everybody else who runs in too,

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these radical Islamis. When I hang on one second, one

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of the things I've maintained is that, yeah, the moderate

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00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:34.840
Muslims will be will maintain their moderation until the radical

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Islamis come in, and then all of a sudden, it's

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like bring on the burkas, and they're going to follow

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the leader because that's their culture. Right.

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Yeah.

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The thing is the essence of Islam is a warrior

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cult of conquest. You have a lot of ordinary people

827
00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:54.840
consider themselves Muslims who aren't into that, who don't know

828
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about it. They're just poorly educated. They're actually bad Muslims.

829
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I once did a I moderated a debate between Richard

830
00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:06.800
Spencer and the philosopher Peter Kreft, and the title was

831
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the only good Muslim is a Bad Muslim. It's on YouTube.

832
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Go look at it. It's fascinating. Okay, only good Muslim

833
00:45:13.559 --> 00:45:16.360
is a bad Muslim. And by that we mean Muslims

834
00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:19.440
who don't really know much about their own religion can

835
00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:22.679
be good Americans. Muslims who don't care much. I call

836
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them Ted Kennedy Muslims. They're Muslims the way Ted Kennedy

837
00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:28.679
was Catholic, Like, it's just sort of like an ethnic brand.

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Those people can be fine neighbors and colleagues and friends.

839
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But all it takes is them going on in the

840
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Internet and reading the Quran, reading the Hadiths, reading what

841
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the religious authorities in Islam right now over in Egypt

842
00:45:46.840 --> 00:45:49.960
and Saudi Arabia, what they teach, and what they teach

843
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is global conquest right to humiliate and subjugate the unbeliever

844
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and force him either to convert or to live as

845
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kind of slave. That is the sa Islam. Just like

846
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the essence of Christianity is turn the other cheek, feed

847
00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:08.559
the poor, preach the gospel to the to the four

848
00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:11.440
corners of the earth. The essence of Islam has conquered

849
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the earth and subjugate the unbeliever. These are two radically

850
00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:16.960
different messages.

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So if you are to what your volume dropped out, John,

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But you know, and I think that what comes to

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00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:28.079
mind here right away relevant to what you're saying is

854
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what Mamdani talked about in terms of the global into Fada, Right.

855
00:46:32.119 --> 00:46:36.960
Yeah, the global into Fada is a Muslim war of

856
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:41.960
conquest that hides behind the shield of victim put that

857
00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:45.760
paints itself as victims. As a victim, what Hamas did

858
00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:49.280
to Israel was like what the Nazis did to the

859
00:46:49.360 --> 00:46:53.079
Jews in Europe. But then they present themselves as victims

860
00:46:53.079 --> 00:46:55.599
when the Jews defend themselves. And you know what the

861
00:46:55.679 --> 00:46:58.000
Nazis did the same thing. They claim that when the

862
00:46:58.039 --> 00:47:03.679
Allies bomb Nazi Germany, they were butchering civilians, they were

863
00:47:03.800 --> 00:47:07.360
jet committing a genocide. It's just flipping the script and

864
00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:09.039
tapping into.

865
00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:10.679
The guilt.

866
00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:16.440
What has replaced real biblical Christianity among all too many people,

867
00:47:16.599 --> 00:47:19.320
especially since World War Two, is the false religion of

868
00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:22.800
white guilt, where all I have to atone for the

869
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:26.239
sins of my ancestors or other people's ancestors. Bill, you

870
00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:28.519
and I I don't think we're descended from any owners

871
00:47:28.519 --> 00:47:30.880
of American slaves, are you.

872
00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:31.960
No, not that I'm aware of.

873
00:47:32.199 --> 00:47:35.800
No, But we're gonna have to pay reparations to people

874
00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:40.239
who were never slaves. His ancestors may have been slaves

875
00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:44.239
because they were sold there, sold into slavery by other Africans,

876
00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:44.519
or or.

877
00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:47.400
They were slave owners. That you're finding out with some

878
00:47:47.480 --> 00:47:50.639
of these you know, they go back and they do this.

879
00:47:51.719 --> 00:47:54.519
Harris Kamala Harris is descended from black slave owners.

880
00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:58.039
Yeah, yes, I know. It's just look at welcome to

881
00:47:58.039 --> 00:48:01.599
the world of humanity. That we're all sinners. You know,

882
00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:05.280
we're saved by grace and you know this is this

883
00:48:05.360 --> 00:48:07.440
is what it's all about. But you know the essence

884
00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:09.800
of all that, John is still it's the truth. The

885
00:48:09.880 --> 00:48:15.480
truth matters. This is why we need to protect you know, truth.

886
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:19.079
So so we have to speak and we have to

887
00:48:19.119 --> 00:48:21.599
speak the truth boldly, even when it's uncomfortable.

888
00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:24.840
I've got a piece over a Chronicles that I'd love

889
00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:29.760
people to go read. It's called The Right Implodes in

890
00:48:29.840 --> 00:48:33.559
Purges and counter purges. This is uh, It's all about

891
00:48:33.679 --> 00:48:40.400
Tucker Carlson's really dumb decision to interview Nick is a

892
00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:45.840
gutter snipe cult leader. He runs an online cult aimed

893
00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:50.000
at recruiting angry, disgruntled young white men who are who

894
00:48:50.360 --> 00:48:53.920
have a legitimate grievance that, first of all, white males

895
00:48:53.960 --> 00:48:57.039
are not protected under the Civil Rights Act and Affirmative Action.

896
00:48:57.400 --> 00:48:59.760
In fact, they are the targets of it. You can

897
00:48:59.800 --> 00:49:03.840
find white males and they can't make discrimination claims. They

898
00:49:03.880 --> 00:49:07.239
are an unprotected class. There's a great book by Jeremy

899
00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:11.880
carl called The Unprotected Class, all about how white males

900
00:49:11.920 --> 00:49:17.280
have been singled out its escapegoat by the enormous affirmative

901
00:49:17.320 --> 00:49:22.559
action industry and DEI industry. You have university presidents in

902
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:27.840
California saying we must eradicate whiteness. During the George Floyd,

903
00:49:28.239 --> 00:49:31.679
the George Floyd hysteria, they were talking about how do

904
00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:34.239
we solve the problem of whiteness. It reminded me of

905
00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:37.800
the Nazis talking about solving the Jewish problem. It sounded

906
00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:41.679
like the way the Hutus were talking about the Tutsis

907
00:49:41.719 --> 00:49:45.519
in Rwanda in the nineties, just before they launched the genocide.

908
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:49.400
You're allowed to use genocidal language about white men, and

909
00:49:49.800 --> 00:49:53.239
big surprise, some of them got ticked off and are

910
00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:57.159
now getting unhinged. And Nick Fuentes is leading this cult

911
00:49:57.440 --> 00:50:00.000
and basically what they're saying is we're sick of white

912
00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:04.159
men being the scapegoat. Let scapegoat the Jews. Is that

913
00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:06.960
a fair trade? We can just scapegoat the Jews instead.

914
00:50:07.039 --> 00:50:08.880
Yeah, because you got you gotta have a target, you know,

915
00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:11.079
we have to. There has to be in exchange, right

916
00:50:11.599 --> 00:50:13.599
if you if you don't like our God, we got

917
00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:16.519
another god for you. That's what it always is. That's right.

918
00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:19.960
It's a transactional relationship in this fallen world.

919
00:50:20.079 --> 00:50:24.079
Go ahead, right, And so Tucker Carlson does a softball

920
00:50:24.159 --> 00:50:27.960
interview with this cult leader, Nick Fuentes, and doesn't ask

921
00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:32.440
him any tough questions and pals around with him. Now, Uh,

922
00:50:32.559 --> 00:50:36.440
Tucker Carlson has become kind of the focal point of

923
00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:41.079
this angry reactionary movement. Kevin Roberts over at the Heritage

924
00:50:41.079 --> 00:50:45.880
Foundation doesn't want to disavowed Tucker Carlson. So now basically

925
00:50:46.480 --> 00:50:50.000
you've got the old guard of the Republican Party, the

926
00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:54.400
Mike Pences and Paul Ryans are using the Nick Fuente

927
00:50:54.519 --> 00:50:59.199
scandal to try to purge the Conservative movement of everybody

928
00:50:59.280 --> 00:51:02.760
like Pat u Can, of everybody who's actually maga. They

929
00:51:02.800 --> 00:51:06.800
want to go back to the political Party of George W. Bush,

930
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:10.559
which calls Islam a religion of peace, brings in thousands

931
00:51:10.599 --> 00:51:14.920
of Somalis to Minnesota in to promote diversity. In other words,

932
00:51:14.920 --> 00:51:18.599
they want to keep up scapegoating white males, and Nick

933
00:51:18.679 --> 00:51:22.400
Twente says, no, let's scapegoat the Jews. This is what

934
00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:24.800
the Conservative movement has come down to, a choice between

935
00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:30.280
these two idiotic, arguably demonic alternatives of scapegoating the Jews

936
00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:33.920
or scapegoating white males. How about we don't scapegoat people.

937
00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:38.239
How about we be American patriots who defend the American

938
00:51:38.360 --> 00:51:42.119
system and our American culture by closing the borders and

939
00:51:42.159 --> 00:51:45.800
deporting the tens of millions of illegals who are squatting

940
00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:49.679
here collecting welfare benefits and benefiting from affirmative action.

941
00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:54.599
This is why John I like the maga concept because

942
00:51:54.599 --> 00:51:58.239
the MAGA concept takes it out of this political crud

943
00:51:58.679 --> 00:51:58.960
in this.

944
00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:04.159
About race, right, it's it's it's not about imposing one

945
00:52:04.199 --> 00:52:09.719
religion on people, but it is about maybe keeping out Islamists,

946
00:52:10.039 --> 00:52:13.199
keeping out Muslims who want to impose their religion, maybe

947
00:52:13.239 --> 00:52:18.159
keeping out Communists from Chin Chinese spies on campus. I

948
00:52:18.199 --> 00:52:20.880
think Trump's kind of flailing in office right now. He's

949
00:52:20.920 --> 00:52:24.320
getting bad advice from Susie Wiles's chief of staff, who

950
00:52:24.400 --> 00:52:27.159
is a neo con. It's it's like if Dick Cheney

951
00:52:27.159 --> 00:52:31.960
were really running the country. Unfortunately, I'm frankly kind of

952
00:52:31.960 --> 00:52:35.480
worried about the midterm elections because we are we are,

953
00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:40.800
We're There's a feeding frenzy of people fighting for control

954
00:52:41.480 --> 00:52:44.440
of the of the conservative movement, even as the left

955
00:52:44.480 --> 00:52:47.000
eats our lunch. And none of the people who did

956
00:52:47.039 --> 00:52:51.039
the January sixth purges have gone to prison. James Comy

957
00:52:51.119 --> 00:52:52.920
is probably going to beat the rat because he has

958
00:52:53.559 --> 00:52:57.400
a Democrat appointed judge. All the people who did the

959
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law fair against legitimate patriots getting away with it, and

960
00:53:01.039 --> 00:53:05.559
Tina Peters in Colorado, heroic election official. All she did

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was document the vote fraud in twenty twenty. She is

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rotting in prison. She might die. So she's going to

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die in prison, and the Left will have claimed another scalp.

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Yes, exactly. Yeah, it's you know, your senses are right, John,

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and I've been thinking the same thing. You know, Trump's

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been battling this almost single handedly and on his own wits.

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And that's why I keep saying for the midterms, we've

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got to send reinforcements. We've got to send people into

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Washington that can come alongside this president and help us

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get over the hump to make this agenda a reality.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, it's a fearful time. It's what we're engaged. What

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we're seeing is spiritual warfare. And in my piece of Ramronic, yes,

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you're exactly. In my piece of her chronicles, I said,

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it's almost like Charlie Kirk was the keystone of the

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Hoover Dan. He was bowing, he was moderate, he was

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pro Israel, but he offered constructive criticism. He was keeping

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the balance, and the left or the devil knew who

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to kill, and once he was gone, the whole thing

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has flown into different pieces and there's no unifying figure.

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I think Trump could become that unifying figure again, right,

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exactly if he starts arresting the members of the radical

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left who just recently called for the army to disobey

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his orders.

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Could you believe that, John, that's insane.

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Well, if they get away with it, you're gonna get

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more of it. Unless those people are put into handcuffs

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and march to Gitmo, you're gonna get more of it.

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The left. The left is like a sociopathic four year

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00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:48.800
old who's just gonna keep doing whatever he can get

991
00:54:48.800 --> 00:54:50.719
away with, and he's gonna learn if he gets away

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with it, he learns he can do it more.

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Yes, right, and he'll raise the ante.

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Right.

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There's no moral compass inside the left exactly.

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Gotta leave it there for now. Doctor John Zameric from

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stream dot org. Also make sure you check out his

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new article at Chronicles. Right, go ahead, it's Chronicles Magazine

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dot org. And that's a great piece. I love the piece.

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This will open up your reality to understand what's going on. Yes,

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it's craziness on the left, but don't think that the

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right is immune from this. Right now, it's it could

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be very well on the verge of a civil war

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in and of itself. John, Yeah, God help us. All amen,

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Getting America back on track. Bill Martinez live, Hey.

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Right now, six minutes after the top of the hour,

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Bill Martinez here, and we've got John Fleetwood from John

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Fleetwood dot com. Hey, mister John, how are we doing?

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Hey, Bill?

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How you doing, sir?

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Hey doing fine? Just checking in on you, seeing about

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the you know, the latest bugs that are out there

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flying around and who's controlling them to damage you know,

1035
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the people, right.

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Yeah, Yeah, that's what we're trying to figure out.

1037
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Yeah, I see at John Fleetwood dot com that you know,

1038
00:57:08.519 --> 00:57:12.559
the claim is vaccines do not cause autism, and you

1039
00:57:12.639 --> 00:57:16.440
say it's not an evidence based claim, which is being

1040
00:57:16.480 --> 00:57:19.199
confirmed by the CDC. So what's going on here?

1041
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Yeah?

1042
00:57:20.920 --> 00:57:24.119
So, you know, for the longest time, people who have

1043
00:57:24.360 --> 00:57:29.920
claimed that there is a connection between vaccines and autism

1044
00:57:30.119 --> 00:57:34.079
have been just written off in full and their conspiracy theorists,

1045
00:57:34.079 --> 00:57:37.719
and they have no data to back up what they're saying. Well,

1046
00:57:37.719 --> 00:57:45.400
now we have on the CDC's website an admission that

1047
00:57:45.960 --> 00:57:50.079
the claim vaccines do not cause autism is not an

1048
00:57:50.079 --> 00:57:54.960
evidence based claim. So this is directly from the CDC's website.

1049
00:57:54.960 --> 00:57:57.639
If you go to John Fleetwood dot com, it is

1050
00:57:57.719 --> 00:58:02.159
the first story that's that's up there. It's the top story,

1051
00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:04.119
and if you click on it, you'll read the US

1052
00:58:04.159 --> 00:58:07.639
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention CDC has officially declared

1053
00:58:08.119 --> 00:58:10.719
that there is no evidence to support the claim that

1054
00:58:10.840 --> 00:58:14.280
vaccines do not cause autism. So a couple days ago,

1055
00:58:14.320 --> 00:58:17.440
the CDC published these historic words, and I'm just reading

1056
00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:21.320
right off the CDC's website. The claim vaccines do not

1057
00:58:21.400 --> 00:58:25.039
cause autism is not in evidence based claim because studies

1058
00:58:25.039 --> 00:58:29.599
have not ruled out the possibility that infant vaccines cause autism.

1059
00:58:30.239 --> 00:58:35.400
Studies supporting a link have been ignored by health authorities.

1060
00:58:35.920 --> 00:58:40.719
HHS has launched a comprehensive assessment of the causes of autism,

1061
00:58:41.159 --> 00:58:47.320
including investigations on plausible biologic mechanisms and potential causal links.

1062
00:58:47.320 --> 00:58:51.440
So that's coming straight from the CDC. They've been claiming

1063
00:58:51.480 --> 00:58:55.320
nothing but the opposite for the longest time. Their web

1064
00:58:55.360 --> 00:58:57.840
page set exactly the opposite, that there is no link.

1065
00:58:58.280 --> 00:59:03.440
And now we have, under the Trump administration, in under RFK.

1066
00:59:03.639 --> 00:59:09.199
Junior's lead as HHS Secretary, we have the CDC finally

1067
00:59:09.239 --> 00:59:13.119
being honest that there potentially is a link between those

1068
00:59:13.159 --> 00:59:15.119
two things, vaccines and autism.

1069
00:59:15.639 --> 00:59:18.159
You know, it's interesting, John, because and this is why

1070
00:59:19.000 --> 00:59:21.719
RFK Junior had to clean up and get rid of

1071
00:59:21.760 --> 00:59:26.320
some people, some ideologues there in the agency because up

1072
00:59:26.400 --> 00:59:28.360
to now, I mean, this is stuff that they've known

1073
00:59:28.440 --> 00:59:31.159
for a long time, right, and so they have been

1074
00:59:31.199 --> 00:59:34.440
doing everything to pivot around it and block out this information,

1075
00:59:35.880 --> 00:59:38.119
you know, from we the people that we need to

1076
00:59:38.159 --> 00:59:41.880
know this stuff. Because meanwhile, as long as how long

1077
00:59:41.960 --> 00:59:44.079
how long have they been aware of this, John, is

1078
00:59:44.079 --> 00:59:45.280
there any indication here?

1079
00:59:46.840 --> 00:59:50.639
Well, like like what the CDC says on the on

1080
00:59:50.719 --> 00:59:55.199
the same page they write that the rise in autism

1081
00:59:55.320 --> 00:59:58.840
prevalence since the nineteen eighties, which is when you know,

1082
00:59:58.920 --> 01:00:04.599
autism started sky rocketing, that rise correlates with the rise

1083
01:00:04.760 --> 01:00:09.599
in the number of vaccines given to infants. So this,

1084
01:00:10.079 --> 01:00:12.519
you know, this first piece of data is just pointing

1085
01:00:12.519 --> 01:00:16.519
out the fact that you know, correlation is not always causation, but.

1086
01:00:18.880 --> 01:00:20.880
You think it would raise a flag, you know, if

1087
01:00:20.880 --> 01:00:22.239
somebody was earnest about it.

1088
01:00:22.280 --> 01:00:22.599
Right.

1089
01:00:24.400 --> 01:00:30.639
Right right exactly, And you know they cite these there's

1090
01:00:30.639 --> 01:00:35.480
a nineteen ninety one Institute of Medicine publication that they

1091
01:00:35.519 --> 01:00:37.480
cite where they write that the key finding was that

1092
01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:41.199
no data were identified that address the question of a

1093
01:00:41.239 --> 01:00:47.519
relation between vaccination with DTP or it's pretessis component and autism.

1094
01:00:48.039 --> 01:00:54.519
There are no experimental data bearing on a possible biologic mechanism.

1095
01:00:54.679 --> 01:00:59.079
They mentioned another twenty twelve Institute of Medicine. Again key

1096
01:00:59.119 --> 01:01:03.880
finding the evidence is inadequate to accept or reject a

1097
01:01:03.960 --> 01:01:10.000
causal relationship between DIP THEYA toxoid, tetanus toxoid, or you know,

1098
01:01:10.199 --> 01:01:15.320
pertussis elements containing vaccine and autism.

1099
01:01:15.440 --> 01:01:18.480
So so these were the vaccines that they think are

1100
01:01:18.639 --> 01:01:22.280
there's connectivity to autism, right these what four or five

1101
01:01:22.480 --> 01:01:24.760
vaccines right right.

1102
01:01:24.599 --> 01:01:27.840
There, But there's you know, there will probably be more

1103
01:01:28.239 --> 01:01:32.920
because as we've all been pointing out, it's the metals, yes,

1104
01:01:32.960 --> 01:01:35.840
that are inside of these vaccines, and many of them

1105
01:01:36.039 --> 01:01:42.159
contain metals like aluminum, mercury or whatever and mercury and

1106
01:01:42.199 --> 01:01:46.360
we've been, you know, people like myself have been screaming

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01:01:46.400 --> 01:01:49.239
for years that there is a connection between these heavy

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01:01:49.239 --> 01:01:54.440
metals and autism. And now finally we have the CDC

1109
01:01:54.519 --> 01:01:57.440
looking into it. This it's it's going to be shown

1110
01:01:57.599 --> 01:02:02.920
That's that's the direction this is going. You know, there

1111
01:02:03.320 --> 01:02:07.599
we've all been you know, tart and feathered as conspiracy

1112
01:02:07.639 --> 01:02:10.760
theories pointing this stuff out. And now we have we

1113
01:02:10.880 --> 01:02:13.880
have the top you know, US is the top government

1114
01:02:13.880 --> 01:02:16.039
in the world, and we have the top us, I mean,

1115
01:02:16.159 --> 01:02:18.719
the top health agency in the US AHHS is looking

1116
01:02:18.800 --> 01:02:22.280
into this. Now it's going to be shown. The data

1117
01:02:22.360 --> 01:02:25.840
are overwhelming and there's going to have to be a

1118
01:02:26.039 --> 01:02:32.000
complete mea culpa on the on the side of all

1119
01:02:32.039 --> 01:02:34.840
of the quote unquote experts who said there there was

1120
01:02:34.920 --> 01:02:38.760
no connection. Now we have the powerful agent of the

1121
01:02:38.760 --> 01:02:41.800
CDC looking into this, and it's it's going to be confirmed.

1122
01:02:41.840 --> 01:02:43.840
It's going to be shown, and this is going to

1123
01:02:45.159 --> 01:02:49.000
just explode the debate over vaccines in general. Right rightfully,

1124
01:02:49.039 --> 01:02:50.599
So this this is real science.

1125
01:02:51.119 --> 01:02:56.360
Yeah, exactly what you're talking forty years John, roughly right,

1126
01:02:56.599 --> 01:02:59.559
plus or minus forty years of history of the red

1127
01:02:59.599 --> 01:03:03.840
flag you know, flying here with a caution on this.

1128
01:03:04.039 --> 01:03:09.280
But there just wasn't enough curiosity. And that's and that's problematic,

1129
01:03:09.360 --> 01:03:11.480
I mean, because we have to look at the foundational

1130
01:03:11.559 --> 01:03:15.119
issues of these agencies, these government agencies that they would

1131
01:03:15.119 --> 01:03:18.519
not be curious enough on behalf of the American people

1132
01:03:18.800 --> 01:03:20.079
to keep them out of danger.

1133
01:03:21.519 --> 01:03:23.880
Yeah, you know, the vaccine industry is a multi billion

1134
01:03:23.960 --> 01:03:28.079
dollar a year industry, so there are conflicts of interest,

1135
01:03:28.639 --> 01:03:33.320
There are you know, incentives for our government leaders to

1136
01:03:33.679 --> 01:03:36.679
turn a blind eye. And if anybody wants any fresh,

1137
01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:43.119
comprehensive data, they can go to the same web page

1138
01:03:43.119 --> 01:03:45.239
on my website. They go to the same article and

1139
01:03:45.280 --> 01:03:49.199
if they scroll down, they will see a paragraph that

1140
01:03:49.280 --> 01:03:52.360
is let me count here, one, two, three, four, five, six,

1141
01:03:52.519 --> 01:03:56.840
seven lines from the bottom, there's a line that reads

1142
01:03:56.920 --> 01:04:01.159
like this. The CDC's newfound scientific approach to autism's link

1143
01:04:01.480 --> 01:04:06.079
to vaccines comes after a large McCulla foundation that's doctor

1144
01:04:06.119 --> 01:04:11.880
Peter McCullough meta analysis of one hundred and thirty six

1145
01:04:12.920 --> 01:04:15.199
it's not one, it's not two, it's not ten, it's

1146
01:04:15.199 --> 01:04:17.599
not fifty, it's not one hundred, it's not one hundred

1147
01:04:17.599 --> 01:04:21.000
and fifteen. It's one hundred and thirty six studies that

1148
01:04:21.119 --> 01:04:27.480
concluded that childhood vaccination, especially cumulative, clustered and early timed dosing,

1149
01:04:27.639 --> 01:04:30.760
which is what we have right now, is the strongest

1150
01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:37.239
modifiable risk factor for autism and other neurodevelopmental disorders. So

1151
01:04:37.239 --> 01:04:40.159
if they go to that seventh line from the bottom,

1152
01:04:40.440 --> 01:04:44.320
they'll get a link to my article, which was one

1153
01:04:44.400 --> 01:04:48.599
hundred and seven studies link Vaccines, Autism, Other Brain Disorders

1154
01:04:48.639 --> 01:04:54.000
McCulla Foundation meta Analysis where they'll read that. And this

1155
01:04:54.119 --> 01:04:57.079
was coming from not just Nick Kolscher and Peter McCullough.

1156
01:04:57.159 --> 01:05:00.519
There were a few other authors. This was Andy way Field,

1157
01:05:01.119 --> 01:05:04.159
who has been screaming about this for decades and he

1158
01:05:04.280 --> 01:05:07.800
finally came out from retirement, so to speak, and put

1159
01:05:07.800 --> 01:05:10.199
his name on a fresh study that he did with

1160
01:05:10.239 --> 01:05:12.960
the McCulla Foundation. And if they click on that link,

1161
01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:15.519
then they'll get the link to that full mccolla Foundation

1162
01:05:15.679 --> 01:05:19.880
study and we can read what those authors write. They say,

1163
01:05:19.960 --> 01:05:25.760
combination and early timed routine childhood vaccination constitutes the most

1164
01:05:25.800 --> 01:05:30.519
significant modifiable risk factor for ASD. That's autism, supported by

1165
01:05:30.599 --> 01:05:37.280
convergent mechanistic, clinical and epidemiologic findings and characterized by intensified use,

1166
01:05:37.920 --> 01:05:42.239
the clustering of multiple doses during clinical neurodevelopmental windows, and

1167
01:05:42.280 --> 01:05:46.000
the lack of research on the cumulative safety of the

1168
01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:51.199
full pediatric schedule. As ASD prevalence continues to rise at

1169
01:05:51.280 --> 01:05:56.280
an unprecedented pace, clarifying the risks associated with cumulative vaccine

1170
01:05:56.280 --> 01:06:01.440
dosing and timing remains an urgent, urgent public health priorities.

1171
01:06:01.519 --> 01:06:06.519
So if they go to that article of mine, then

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01:06:06.519 --> 01:06:08.800
they'll be able to get the link to that study

1173
01:06:08.840 --> 01:06:12.920
that analyzed all the studies that link vaccines.

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Stare study it for yourself. Got to go to quick Break.

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Just about nineteen minutes after the top of the hour,

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John fleet Woodford Jofflintwood dot com talking about vaccines and

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now the CDC, you know, kind of squaring up with

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science and saying, look at what was reported earlier that

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there wasn't a causal situation with vaccines and autisms. They're saying, well,

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hit the brake, slow down here, there's things to look at,

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and as John has been pointing out, I mean, we're

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talking over one hundred and fifty studies that have demonstrated

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that there is causal relationship between these vaccines and autism.

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So here it is.

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I mean, this has been near what forty years of

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information and scientific evidence that it would seem that those

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that are to do no harm were not curious enough

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to do something about it when there had to be.

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I mean, you'd have to ignore how many kids were

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showing up suddenly with autism after the eighties when you

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changed the protocol for childhood immunizations, right, John.

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Yeah, and you just you have to put your yourself

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in the shoes of a parent number one, And then

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you have to put yourself in the shoes of a

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parent who has a child with autism. Parents know what

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it's like to have a child who gets sick, maybe

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they're detoxing, they get a bacterial infections, et cetera. But

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not a lot of parents understand what it's like to

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have a child with with a severe disease like autism,

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and how much that affects one's life, not just the

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child's life, but the family's life. It's it's a devastating disorder.

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Of course, the parents of these children love these children

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and want to protect these children, take care of them.

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But it is a devastating disease to to be stricken by.

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And I just want to run, and it runs the

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whole spectrum, right, John, I mean, were you know when

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you talk about autism, it's not yeah, I mean it's

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everything from maybe minor reactions to very severe a. Right.

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That's a good point because you could think of any

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disease as being on a spectrum. We we get infections

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all the time, but our body fights it off, and

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it's only when our immune system is not as strong

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that these infections take over and then we get the

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you know, classical symptoms of being sick. But you could say,

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you know, we're all sub but clinically, you know, infected

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with bacteria. But are you know body fight it off?

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There are for for autism. It's the same thing. So

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you're raising you're opening a Pandora's box here, which is,

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if we know vaccines are linked to autism, what about

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the what about the people who have been vaccinated and

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who maybe have sub subclinical uh you know, manifestations of autism.

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Maybe it hasn't affected them in ways that it has

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others more severely. And that's that's the really sad thing

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about this is probably most people who have been vaccinated

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with the more recent within the past couple of decades.

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You know, vaccine schedule probably have some sort of subclinical

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manifestation of these problems, right, so people, you know, and

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it's sad because if you got them while you were

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a kid, you just don't know what life is like

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without having had those vaccinations at a young age. So

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you could be experiencing these symptoms and it's negatively affecting

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your life and you're just experiencing it as sadness or

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you know, just some sort of malaise or pain or

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something in your thought processes and you don't know it,

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but it's actually some type of vaccine related injury. That's

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that's where my mind goes, and that's what makes this

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really sad. But the silver lining is now we finally

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have the CDC looking into these things, so hopefully we

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can take.

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These things.

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The first step would be taking these elements out of

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vaccines exactly, if not just you know, stopping all vaccinations,

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which is which is my point of view.

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But so let me ask you this, is there any

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hope down the road to do any kind of reversal

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of the damage that these vaccines have caused or is

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it till death.

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To his part.

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I've seen that there have been some medicines. I can't

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think of them off the top of my head right now,

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but I've seen that there have been certain medicines that

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have been used on people who have more severe manifestations

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of this where it has helped a little bit. But

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as far as reversing, I'm not sure they haven't looked

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into that. And that's precisely because we're in the situation

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that we're in. Nobody is looking into it. The CDC

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is just starting to look into it. So hope, hopefully,

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you know, big journals will start incentivizing people actually looking

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into this so that you know, we can come up

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with those solutions like like you're talking about.

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Right.

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So my next query is about it always seems that

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European nations are ahead of the game and the head

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of the curve, that they discover this and move a

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lot quicker than we do here in the United States.

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Is that the same case regarding vaccines and autisms?

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You know, I think over in Europe they have stricter,

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you know, protocols when it comes to which vaccines they

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let through and not. I'm not sure. I can't say

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definitively if all European vaccines are completely devoid of all metals.

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I'm not sure they could be. They usually are better,

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but you know, Europe is not perfect. For example, here's

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a recent example is Europe was allowing Beauvaire to be

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used as a cattle feed supplement. And this was for

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the you know, the purposes of climate change and global warming.

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They wanted to or carbon footprint, so they decided to

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put this toxic cancer linked cattle feed called beauvaiir uh

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into their UH, into their cattle's food supply. We I

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was ringing alarms about this right when they first started

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talking about beauvair, because they're using it in the US

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right now. I actually did a foya. I sent a

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foya into the FDA to ask them for all of

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the data that they relied on to allow beauvert to

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be used here in the US. They still haven't gotten

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back to me yet. They wanted something like a year

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to be able to look into it. But I I

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did that early on. And then lo and behold what

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we see out of out of Europe, especially northern Europe.

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You're seeing all these farmers that started just over the

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past month started declaring that there they're cows who were

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being fed fed Beauvair were dropping dead and being sick,

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and so now these nations have actually halted the use

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of of bovair. So over in Europe they still let

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you know, they'll let things slip through, but sometimes they're

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a little faster to correct, like in the case of bovair.

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But right, yeah, yeah, that's been in other cases too.

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I mean, you know, of course, we went through the

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four years of COVID, and we saw that they were

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reacting a lot quicker than here in the United States.

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And you know, we're supposedly so much smarter and wiser, right, supposedly. Yeah,

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it's amazing what greed does. How that blinds you?

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Right, It's true.

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It's all about the money again. Vaccines are a multi

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billion dollar year industry. Unfortunately, and unfortunately the people who

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control our agencies in this country are senators and representatives

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are all paid by you know, Pfizer and you know,

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Bayer and all the other big pharmaceutical giants are paying

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these very politicians who are in control of whether we're

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injecting these into ourselves and our kids or not. So

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there are conflicts of interests that we still have not

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worked through.

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Well, the line of accountability is long, and to me,

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it's obvious, especially because the way our political system works,

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it rewards this kind of behavior. It doesn't penalize it.

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And what's what's worse is than we the people. You know,

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we all participate in it because we keep electing re

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electing these knuckleheads, because it's the system that we have

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been conditioned to accept that politicians that their number one

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objective is about getting re elected, not serving the best

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interests of the American people, which oh yeah, by the

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way includes a national security and not doing harm to

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the constituents right right.

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Well, with the Trump administration, we have to give him

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kudos for what he's doing now and how he's put

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RFK Junior into the into the place that he's in now,

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and we have to give credit where credit's due to

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RFK Junior for what he's doing shining a spotlight on

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But the call to action for the American people is

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don't think that Donald Trump and RFK Junior can do

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this by themselves. This is a government of four. By

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we the people, we get the government that we deserve

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Good to have you with us.

1506
01:25:15.800 --> 01:25:19.359
I'm Bill Martinez and get an interesting story to share

1507
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with you. Stage four lung cancer patient is talking about

1508
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how her doctor worked with her to build a personalized

1509
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treatment plan, and the doctor's here to talk about shared

1510
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decision making, how it's helping patients feel more informed and

1511
01:25:33.439 --> 01:25:37.720
confident in their treatment decisions now. When Deborah was sixty five,

1512
01:25:37.840 --> 01:25:41.600
she was diagnosed with stage four non small cell lung cancer,

1513
01:25:42.039 --> 01:25:44.840
and it was a diagnosis she never imagined that she'd

1514
01:25:44.880 --> 01:25:47.119
be a part of and that it would be part

1515
01:25:47.159 --> 01:25:50.359
of her story. A lifelong non smoker who loves spending

1516
01:25:50.439 --> 01:25:53.119
time outdoors in her home state of Arizona, she has

1517
01:25:53.239 --> 01:25:56.439
hiked the Grand Canyon, rim and seventy miles of the

1518
01:25:56.520 --> 01:26:00.399
Camino Trail through Portugal. Oh my goodness, what a dream, Deborah.

1519
01:26:00.560 --> 01:26:03.359
I I you know, I'm envious of you, and we'll

1520
01:26:03.399 --> 01:26:06.279
talk more about that later. But after her diagnosis, she

1521
01:26:06.359 --> 01:26:09.239
turned to her on collegist doctor is zam Feruki, who

1522
01:26:09.319 --> 01:26:12.319
is here with us to tell his side of the story.

1523
01:26:13.039 --> 01:26:16.880
He's with Ironhood Cancer and Research Center, and says Deborah,

1524
01:26:16.880 --> 01:26:20.760
story shows how open communication and a strong doctor patient

1525
01:26:20.880 --> 01:26:25.279
partnership can transform care. Doctor and Deborah, welcome to show.

1526
01:26:25.359 --> 01:26:30.079
Good to have you with us. Thank you for well Deborah.

1527
01:26:30.119 --> 01:26:32.880
How did you feel when you were given the news

1528
01:26:33.000 --> 01:26:36.960
about your diagnosis and then what led you to doctor Ferouki.

1529
01:26:39.159 --> 01:26:42.520
I was pretty devastated. I am a non smoker. I've

1530
01:26:42.560 --> 01:26:47.199
never smoked before, as you stated, and it was hard

1531
01:26:47.720 --> 01:26:52.840
news to tell my friends, family, That was the hardest part.

1532
01:26:54.840 --> 01:26:58.960
And my went to my primary physician to find out

1533
01:26:59.159 --> 01:27:02.840
find iron wood. He suggested iron Wood, and I was

1534
01:27:02.960 --> 01:27:07.640
paired up with doctor Ferruki and we had a click

1535
01:27:07.800 --> 01:27:08.199
right away.

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Yeah.

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So there was good chemistry we could say, right between

1538
01:27:16.319 --> 01:27:19.119
the two of you, and you felt confident there after

1539
01:27:19.279 --> 01:27:22.439
dealing with this diagnosis. So how did he help you

1540
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build a treatment plan that allowed you to continue living

1541
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your everyday life.

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Well, he he had listened to what I had did,

1543
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and through a series of tests we found out that

1544
01:27:38.560 --> 01:27:43.960
I had a genetic marker which helped with my treatments.

1545
01:27:46.720 --> 01:27:49.319
He suggested a few, but the one we settled on

1546
01:27:49.600 --> 01:27:54.319
was ribe event and Las Cruz treatment, And so far

1547
01:27:54.439 --> 01:27:55.560
everything is going well.

1548
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So how does your day to day life. I know

1549
01:27:58.600 --> 01:28:00.760
our audience would be interested in hearing that. I mean

1550
01:28:01.000 --> 01:28:04.680
here starting treatment. Most people that go through treatment, it's like,

1551
01:28:05.199 --> 01:28:07.720
you know, their world is turned upside down. So how

1552
01:28:07.920 --> 01:28:08.359
was it for you?

1553
01:28:11.199 --> 01:28:14.239
There is hope. I know that the first three weeks

1554
01:28:14.800 --> 01:28:18.640
was hard on me, but I got adjusted and I

1555
01:28:18.800 --> 01:28:24.000
am doing my job. I am living what I can

1556
01:28:24.359 --> 01:28:29.359
call my life. Everybody's different and unique, but this is

1557
01:28:29.439 --> 01:28:30.399
not a death sentence.

1558
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Yeah, doctor Fruk, let's bring you on here. What is

1559
01:28:35.199 --> 01:28:42.159
EGFR positive and ns CLC and why it's testing you

1560
01:28:42.239 --> 01:28:44.680
know for EGFR mutations? So important?

1561
01:28:46.600 --> 01:28:48.960
Yeah, great question, Bill, and again thanks for having us.

1562
01:28:49.000 --> 01:28:51.000
You know, we've partnered with Johnson and Johnson to help

1563
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raise awareness on this subject and specifically your question. So

1564
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you know EGFR positive non small so lung cancer is

1565
01:28:59.279 --> 01:29:03.039
basically one subset of lung cancer, so there are multiple types.

1566
01:29:04.079 --> 01:29:07.239
Non small cell is the most common variety of lung cancer.

1567
01:29:07.720 --> 01:29:09.840
And then within that group, there's a smaller group of

1568
01:29:09.920 --> 01:29:14.159
patients who have this thing called the EGFR mutation that

1569
01:29:14.319 --> 01:29:17.039
stands for end of the little growth factor receptor. So

1570
01:29:17.159 --> 01:29:20.399
what EGFR is. It's basically a way that the cancer grows.

1571
01:29:21.119 --> 01:29:23.880
And the reason why this is so important is number one,

1572
01:29:24.119 --> 01:29:26.960
this is commonly found in non smokers. So to Debra's

1573
01:29:27.000 --> 01:29:29.439
initial point, we really want people to know that you

1574
01:29:29.560 --> 01:29:31.359
may not be a smoker, but you could still get

1575
01:29:31.439 --> 01:29:35.840
lung cancer. And then more importantly, when people have this mutation,

1576
01:29:36.479 --> 01:29:39.920
they're actually now what we call targeted therapies that can

1577
01:29:40.000 --> 01:29:43.039
treat this mutation. So for example, you know, if you

1578
01:29:43.119 --> 01:29:47.119
have the EGFR mutation, they're now EGFR drugs that can

1579
01:29:47.199 --> 01:29:51.920
be given for it. Specifically, the drugs that Debra got

1580
01:29:52.000 --> 01:29:55.800
were two drugs called Ribervin and last Clues. Now, these

1581
01:29:55.880 --> 01:29:58.920
medications are you know, very well tolerated.

1582
01:29:59.119 --> 01:29:59.439
They have.

1583
01:30:00.960 --> 01:30:03.840
Uh, you know, some side effects, but overall, you know,

1584
01:30:04.119 --> 01:30:06.319
quality of life is better. They're a lot more effective

1585
01:30:06.359 --> 01:30:09.640
than traditional treatment, which is chemot therapy. Right, so we

1586
01:30:09.760 --> 01:30:11.600
really want to make sure that the patient is getting

1587
01:30:11.640 --> 01:30:15.319
the best and more importantly, most personalized treatment option.

1588
01:30:16.319 --> 01:30:18.000
Well, and I like the idea. You know, Devor it

1589
01:30:18.119 --> 01:30:20.960
said that you know, you you kind of you came together.

1590
01:30:21.359 --> 01:30:24.079
This was you know, you're listening to her and then

1591
01:30:24.119 --> 01:30:27.079
you're coming up with a plan, uh, you know, based

1592
01:30:27.159 --> 01:30:29.960
on her lifestyle and her experience and that sort of thing.

1593
01:30:30.359 --> 01:30:34.199
So you know that, uh, you're finding is critical in

1594
01:30:34.279 --> 01:30:37.960
the healing process, right, Yeah.

1595
01:30:37.920 --> 01:30:40.680
Definitely, And I think it's really a team effort, you know.

1596
01:30:40.880 --> 01:30:42.880
I think that one of the biggest things we try

1597
01:30:42.920 --> 01:30:44.720
to do at our first few visits is just kind

1598
01:30:44.720 --> 01:30:48.319
of create a connection really to make sure that communication

1599
01:30:48.439 --> 01:30:50.079
can be strong from then on. And I think that

1600
01:30:50.520 --> 01:30:53.560
kind of goes with just everybody being comfortable with the situation.

1601
01:30:54.560 --> 01:30:57.000
The first visit is hard because there's so many different

1602
01:30:57.039 --> 01:31:00.960
things to touch on, the diagnosis, the prognosts. You know,

1603
01:31:01.079 --> 01:31:03.920
it's a life altering moment, and so we really try

1604
01:31:04.000 --> 01:31:06.159
to make sure that we can connect through that and

1605
01:31:06.640 --> 01:31:09.239
make sure we have open communication from then on. And

1606
01:31:09.319 --> 01:31:11.119
that's kind of what we get what we mean when

1607
01:31:11.119 --> 01:31:13.479
we say shared decision making, right, You really want to

1608
01:31:13.479 --> 01:31:15.960
make sure that the patient knows that they're as you know,

1609
01:31:16.039 --> 01:31:18.319
we're equally important in the team, and if anything, they're

1610
01:31:18.359 --> 01:31:20.399
the ones going through the entire experience. We want to

1611
01:31:20.399 --> 01:31:22.680
make sure that they're comfortable. And so with that, we

1612
01:31:22.760 --> 01:31:25.239
also tell our patients don't suffer in silence. If you're

1613
01:31:25.279 --> 01:31:27.920
having a problem, make sure you reach out, make sure

1614
01:31:27.920 --> 01:31:30.600
we have open lines of communication, whether it's email or

1615
01:31:30.760 --> 01:31:33.880
calls or you know, our portal messages, just so that

1616
01:31:33.960 --> 01:31:35.399
we're not in the dark on what they're.

1617
01:31:35.239 --> 01:31:40.920
Going through exactly. Well, what is the most important doctor

1618
01:31:41.159 --> 01:31:44.279
when it comes to, you know, considering and determining the

1619
01:31:44.439 --> 01:31:47.000
treatment for a patient. What do you look for that

1620
01:31:47.840 --> 01:31:50.119
really leads the way for you in coming up with

1621
01:31:50.239 --> 01:31:50.800
a decision.

1622
01:31:52.520 --> 01:31:54.720
Yeah, I think there are two things that we really

1623
01:31:54.760 --> 01:31:58.319
want to highlight. One is obviously the patient's priorities. So,

1624
01:31:58.760 --> 01:32:01.800
you know, there are some medications they're more aggressive than others,

1625
01:32:02.399 --> 01:32:04.399
some of them are more effective than others. We really

1626
01:32:04.439 --> 01:32:06.720
want to kind of find the balance of what will

1627
01:32:06.760 --> 01:32:09.960
be the most effective medicine that also meets them or

1628
01:32:10.239 --> 01:32:12.600
how they want to live their life, you know. And

1629
01:32:12.800 --> 01:32:16.039
you know, fortunately some of these newer medications they not

1630
01:32:16.159 --> 01:32:19.119
only are more effective, but they're better tolerated and so

1631
01:32:19.640 --> 01:32:21.520
that is kind of the best of both worlds. And

1632
01:32:21.680 --> 01:32:24.000
so usually those are the two things I'm really prioritizing

1633
01:32:24.039 --> 01:32:27.000
when I need a patient. Now, with that said, all

1634
01:32:27.079 --> 01:32:30.039
medications have side effects, so we really need to make

1635
01:32:30.079 --> 01:32:32.960
sure that the patients understand the risks of any medicine.

1636
01:32:33.399 --> 01:32:36.439
You know, what to expect, how to communicate that you know,

1637
01:32:36.520 --> 01:32:40.079
with this combination in particular, some patients can get tyrhea,

1638
01:32:40.279 --> 01:32:42.800
some can get a rash, some can get issued with

1639
01:32:42.880 --> 01:32:45.279
their skin, and so as long as we're aware of it,

1640
01:32:45.399 --> 01:32:47.479
it's a lot easier to treat it. So I would

1641
01:32:47.479 --> 01:32:49.720
say that's the number one priority, is just making sure

1642
01:32:49.760 --> 01:32:51.239
that we're meeting all those goals.

1643
01:32:52.000 --> 01:32:54.640
Yeah, you're helping them manage their treatment. As you say,

1644
01:32:54.680 --> 01:32:58.760
and as Deborah had referred to earlier, what advice would

1645
01:32:58.760 --> 01:33:02.279
you give to patients who feel unsure about speaking up

1646
01:33:02.359 --> 01:33:04.880
about their treatment experience and these side effects that you

1647
01:33:05.000 --> 01:33:05.359
refer to.

1648
01:33:07.279 --> 01:33:09.840
I think our biggest advice and why I think Debora

1649
01:33:09.840 --> 01:33:11.439
and I are both doing this, is to make sure

1650
01:33:11.640 --> 01:33:13.600
in my patients that they have a voice and that

1651
01:33:14.119 --> 01:33:17.680
they should definitely be communicating whatever they're going through, whether

1652
01:33:17.720 --> 01:33:20.720
it's initial symptoms to their primary care they're worried it

1653
01:33:20.760 --> 01:33:22.960
could be more than just a cold, like would happen

1654
01:33:23.039 --> 01:33:25.680
with Debra, or when they're on treatment, if they're having

1655
01:33:25.760 --> 01:33:28.319
side effects and they need help to get over get

1656
01:33:28.399 --> 01:33:30.760
through them, that would be our biggest.

1657
01:33:30.479 --> 01:33:31.159
Piece of advice.

1658
01:33:31.279 --> 01:33:33.800
And then the second piece is what Deborah alluded to earlier,

1659
01:33:33.920 --> 01:33:35.840
is that there is hope, there's a lot of new

1660
01:33:35.880 --> 01:33:39.399
options out there, people having much better outcomes than you know,

1661
01:33:39.600 --> 01:33:42.079
what we used to think of lung cancer as. And

1662
01:33:42.159 --> 01:33:44.800
then lastly that you know, everybody with lungs can get

1663
01:33:44.880 --> 01:33:47.640
lung cancer, and so it's important to be vigilant make

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Well. Doctor Frukie told us where to go for more information,

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and I guess to kind of sum things up, Debra,

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We're going to put it on you, no pressure whatsoever.

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So how do you want your story to change the

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perceptions of lung cancer?

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I think there the misconception is that that people with

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I'm proof that you can get cancer in your lungs

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even if you don't smoke, and there is hope even

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if you're in stage four. I know everybody's unique journey

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a quality of life with cancer, with lung cancer.

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Well, Deborah is a patient living with stage four lung cancer.

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And what a story. And thank you so much for

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Azam Farruki, who's a medical oncologist, Doctor Frukie, thank you

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Hey, we're back with you. Bill Martinez here and oh boyd,

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we got a treat Eric Celery a is joining us

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his book Becoming a House of Prayer, a thirty day

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devotional to carry God's presence into every area of your life.

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Pastor Eric, good to have you with us. Welcome to

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the show.

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It's a great pleasure and honor to be with you.

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I hope everybody will understand my awesome americanneccent.

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So, hey, everything in America, you know, we have so

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many accents flowing around.

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Is that?

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I think was the other day we're talking about because

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there was a recent election in New York and in

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the Bronx they were talking that they had one hundred

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and sixty different languages in the Bronx. So, hey, welcome

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to America. It's you know, yeah, we love it. So

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Becoming a House of Prayer? Why this book?

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01:40:25.439 --> 01:40:29.319
So it just came out of my prayer time I

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leave close to a forest here in France, and I

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decided to pray the Lord's Prayer every day, And for

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months and months I was I was just praying, you know,

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and it's not usual for an Evangelic con Chretian to

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say the Lord's Prayer every day. It's more a Catholic habit.

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And as I was praying this prayer, God started through

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the Holy Spirit to reveal me secrets, amazing secrets in

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this prayer and just to give you a glimpse, and

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I'm sure you will have great questions built. But there

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are sixty six words in Greek in the Lord's Prayer,

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like the number of the books in the Bible. And

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that's just it's like the Lord's Prayer is like in

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the old the Bible, in a very short prayer, and

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there are many secrets. And as I was discovering these secrets,

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I was coming back home and saying to my wife, Hey, darling,

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I discovered that, and it was like I was at

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the school of the Holy Spirit. So I decided to

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just write it to remember, and it became a book

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and it's published in the US, and it's amazing for

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a French pastor to be published in the US. It's

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really not usual, I can tell you.

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Right, but you're exactly right, and I think that you know,

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being raised Catholic. In fact, I was just doing a

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presentation and this was on the Lord's Prayer. In fact,

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I taught this particular syllabus for like eight years at

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an evangelical church because what we did was we took

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apart the Lord's prayer. Okay, so when you look at

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you know, our father who are in heaven, you know

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you want to go to the heavenlies for answers. You know,

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today the world says, no, the answers are at ground level,

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No they're not. You got to go up to heaven.

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That's where God is and that's where the answers are.

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Right.

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And then and then the next is hallowed be Thy name? Well,

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what what is God's name? What are the names of God?

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Right?

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And so anyway, so we broke it down in that sense,

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and it was you know, and I told them, I said,

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look it, I'm going to give you a speed course

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here because normally I spend anyway from eight to nine

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01:42:35.640 --> 01:42:39.479
weeks doing this syllabus. And it was for a group

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of Catholic men, Knights of Columbus, and it was such

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a blessing and it it opened up their minds and understanding.

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Like you is, you're starting to pray the Lord's prayer

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and you're getting revelation and God begins to talk to you,

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and you think, you know, because for me, I'm thinking,

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you know, here the apostles are saying, Lord teaches that

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we want to pray like you pray, and Jesus gives

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them the Lord's prayer, right.

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Yeah, And you know, Bill, what is amazing? There are

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many amazing things there. But Jesus took an existing prayer

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and it transformed it. Before the Lord's Prayer, there is

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a prayer in the Jewish world called the Kaddish, and

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the Kaddish is about heaven, and it's about kingdom, and

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it's about glory of God, and it's about the name

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01:43:23.439 --> 01:43:26.880
of God. And so Jesus took this prayer and changed it,

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01:43:27.119 --> 01:43:30.279
and it changed it in a way that was shocking

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for the people at this time because he's bringing the Father,

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the relationship with the Father. And you are absolutely right.

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The disciples wanted to pray like Jesus because Jesus was

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praying the Father in heaven. And then so that we

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01:43:44.479 --> 01:43:47.199
start with that our Father with in heaven, allow it

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01:43:47.359 --> 01:43:50.960
be your name. Your name was coming from the Kaddish,

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01:43:51.199 --> 01:43:54.359
but not our Father with in heaven. And then Jesus

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01:43:54.479 --> 01:43:58.199
is introducing us to the Father. And that's the beginning

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of the prayer. I call it the roof of the House.

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01:44:01.239 --> 01:44:04.359
I discovered plane Jesus was a carpanter you know. It

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01:44:04.479 --> 01:44:07.079
was a tech tone in Greek, a maker of plan,

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01:44:07.520 --> 01:44:11.199
we would say to an architect, Okay, yes. And so

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there is a plan in the Lord's prayer, and there

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01:44:13.359 --> 01:44:16.039
is a roof, and it's the Father. But there is

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01:44:16.119 --> 01:44:20.600
the floor of God, God's floor, your name, your kingdom,

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01:44:20.880 --> 01:44:23.760
your will. It's all about him, you know. And I

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01:44:23.880 --> 01:44:27.239
don't have to pray for his kingdom to come in

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01:44:27.319 --> 01:44:29.319
heaven but on earth. I don't have to pray for

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01:44:29.479 --> 01:44:31.840
his will to be done in heaven, but on earth.

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01:44:32.279 --> 01:44:34.399
I don't need to pray for his name to be

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glorified in heaven, but on earth. And then on earth

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01:44:38.359 --> 01:44:42.359
as it is in heaven, sink like a big stairs

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going down. And and thinks, now the ground floor in

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01:44:47.800 --> 01:44:51.399
the house, in our house of prayer, and it's our

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01:44:51.520 --> 01:44:54.399
daily bread, it's the forgiveness of our sins. It's the

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01:44:54.960 --> 01:44:58.439
battle with the temptations. And as sinks, foundation to you

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01:44:58.600 --> 01:45:01.680
the glory, the Kingdom, the forever and ever. So I

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01:45:01.760 --> 01:45:04.079
started to see the plan of the house that God

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01:45:04.159 --> 01:45:07.439
wants to build in our life, a house of prayer, in.

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01:45:07.520 --> 01:45:10.920
Your life, in my life, exactly because in essence we

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01:45:12.279 --> 01:45:17.039
you know when you are when the Holy Spirit comes

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01:45:17.119 --> 01:45:19.960
into you, you become that human tabernacle, do you.

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Not absolutely completely God wants to dwell in us. God

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is not in a beating I'm trying to find my

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01:45:28.479 --> 01:45:32.119
world in English. But God is not dwelling into temples

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01:45:32.239 --> 01:45:34.920
made by men, say the Bible, you know. But He

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01:45:35.000 --> 01:45:37.640
wants to dwell in us by through the Holy Spirit.

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01:45:37.960 --> 01:45:39.960
He wants to build a house of prayer. And it's

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something maybe we have lost as evangelical and maybe the

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01:45:44.319 --> 01:45:49.000
Catholics they understand that better than we understand the silent plates,

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01:45:49.359 --> 01:45:52.520
that God wants to dwell in us. Yes, God is

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in heaven. God is our father in heaven, but he

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01:45:56.000 --> 01:45:59.199
wants this heaven to be in us in our life.

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God want to my life, your life, the life of

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01:46:02.800 --> 01:46:07.039
the people listening to tow ards becoming a life of

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01:46:07.800 --> 01:46:11.680
the presence of God every moment, every time. And that

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was the life of Jesus, by the way, when he

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was on earth.

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And I think it's interesting when I was reading your

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book and the title particularly stuck out because it just

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so happened that in the Gospel reading in this past week,

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01:46:27.399 --> 01:46:29.800
we're talking about how Jesus came in and cleared up

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01:46:29.840 --> 01:46:34.079
the temple right, And it's said that Jesus's passion for

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01:46:34.319 --> 01:46:37.039
God God's house would be that it would be a

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01:46:37.079 --> 01:46:40.119
house of prayer. And he took out and cleaned it

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out right, turned the tables upside down and everything. And here,

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you know, your book saying becoming a house of prayer.

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And as I'm reading this, I'm thinking, okay, what what

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things do I have within my tabernacle that Jesus needs

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to come in and turn upside down in my life? Right?

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Absolutely fun. Jesus first wants to clean the house. Some

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often our life is like a mess.

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You know.

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They were greedy.

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They were selling staff instead of praying. They were sinking

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money all the time. And money is not bad, but

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the love of money is bad. And when Jesus is

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turning the table, the doors will start to fly.

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What do they have to do?

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They have to look up, you know, to the doors, okay,

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and and the coins are on the floor, so they

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have to come on their needs and to take the coins.

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So Jesus is doing a cleaning, but not because it's

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just angry, but because he wants people to come back

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to the art of why the temple was there, and

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it was prayer and why we exist is to be

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connected with the Law, not just to be born again

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one day and then we have to wait to be

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in eaven to be with the Lord. But he wants

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to dwell in us. He wants to be with us.

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I'm with you every day. So we have to cultivate that.

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And sometimes our life is so busy, so messy, that

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Jesus needs to come and to say, you know, I'm

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part of the Chosen, I'm a global ambassador. And in

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season five in Stuff with Jesus, that's exactly cleaning the temple,

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and sometimes he has to do it. We need some

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time to be shocked, come back to me. It's time

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to come back to a prayer life. And prayer is

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not difficult. It's just God dwelling in us.

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Right, because God has a perfect plan for us that

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he's laid out. And God Almighty himself, who created the

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heavens and earth and who designed us in our mother's

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womb with a purpose right, and so in his holiness

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and his love for us, he doesn't want us to deviate.

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And and he understands we're in this fallen world and

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we can be pulled away, we can be tempted away.

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But that's not in our best interest anymore than put

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our hand on a hot stove and our best interest.

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And he's saying, hey, before you learn the hard way

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and put your hand on a hot stove and burn yourself,

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I'm going to give you my word and I'm going

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to give you my Holy spirit so that you don't

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have to do knucklehead sort of things.

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Right right, absolutely you. I mean, Jesus wants to bless

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our life. I'm sure of that. He wants to bless

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every person who is listening now. He wants to to

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God as a plan since we are the one wound

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of I agree with you, Bill, and you know in

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let me just take you one example of the Lord spray.

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Give us today out daily bread, daily bread. So when

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we say that, we sink a French baggage when we

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are in friends.

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Okay, but it's not that that that and a little

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bit of cheese and a little bit of wine. I

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gotta tell you, I'm good, I'm good to go, all right,

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I'm good.

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But in fact, in fact, the key of the of

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the prayer life and the key of the Bible, the

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key of the Lord's prayer is Jesus. So the daily

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bread is Jesus. I'm the living bread. I'm the living bread.

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And in fact, this word daily epeusios in Greek means

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super substance. So it's like you are asking, oh, I

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need this in the morning. Sometime we take the vitamins

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and the coffee and everything I need to start today.

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But what we really need is Jesus. We need Jesus.

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Jesus is the key of the prayer. Life is the

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is the key of the door, is the door himself

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by the way. And so when you look at the

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Lord's prayers through the eyes of Jesus, i'llow it be.

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Your name is the name above name your kingdom. Come,

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is the King of the kingdom. Your will be done.

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Is the one who always obeyed the will of God

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on hers as it is in heaven. Is the one

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who came honors he was in eaven. He abandoned everything.

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Is the daily bread we need. The foggy giveness of

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sin is through Jesus. If you need forgiveness, you would listen.

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It's through Jesus you have the foggist giveness of sin,

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the temptation. He always resisted temptation. He free us from

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evil to Him is the glory, the power, forever and ever.

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Is Jesus the key. So if we want to be

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successful in our prayer, life, in our life, in our relationship,

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the key is Jesus. And when you start to read

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the Lord's Prayer or to read the Bible thinking through

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Jesus or through the eyes of Jesus, then you have

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the answer. And it's what happened to me, Bill. Honestly,

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I started to see differently the Bible, the Lord's Prayer,

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and finally my life. Praise God exactly.

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It is a process and God honors that commitment, and

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you know, and he's just looking. He's there every day.

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Like you said, daily bread. I look at it, Eric,

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as this is it's fresh. It's fresh bread for that day.

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Like the children who were in the desert, right every day,

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they had manna from heaven for that day for that provision,

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except for the Sabbath, then it covered two days. God

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had already that figured out, right, And so as long

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as you followed followed the rules that God had set

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before them, it was fresh and perfect and nourishing for

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that day. But you had some knuckleheads that tried to

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collect too much and or not enough or even go

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out on the day they weren't supposed to, and you

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know they got rightfully chastised. Because there are things that

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are right and true and holy that God commands us

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to honor. And if we do that, if we honor him,

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he'll honor us.

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Right.

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I'm gonna let you summarize and and wrap things up

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for us.

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Pastor Eric, Yeah, so what we I could do as

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a summarize in ever? We have everything we need. The

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problem is not in eaven. The problem now not in

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even and we cannot bring our problem to heaven anyway.

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But by praying, with prayer, we can bring Heaven on

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earth on earth as it is in heaven. Do you

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need forgiveness, the answer is in eaven. Do you need

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provision the answer is in eaven. Do you need a job,

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a solution? The answer is in eaven. When so I

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discover in the Lord's prayer that prayer is not so

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much bringing earth into heaven a problem into heaven. Yes,

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we can say everything to the law, but bringing heaven

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into earth and each change everything.

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Well. Pastor Eric Celery, a author and global digital strategists,

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spent twenty five years helping people encounter Jesus in their

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everyday lives. Is the founder of Jesus dot net. It's

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a global evangelistic network that reaches millions each month and

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the creator of a miracle every day. I love that

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and author his new book is Becoming a House of Prayer,

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a thirty day devotional to carry God's presence into every

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area of your life. Pastor Eric, thank you so much,

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you bless us richly.

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It has been a pleasure.

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I have to say.

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One day someone asked me on a radio why you

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French people you hate Americans, And I said, I don't

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understand your question, because we love Americans. Without you Americans,

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we would speak German and its sausages. So I'm very

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thankful that to receive me today to share.

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Well, God bless you. I look forward to continuing this conversation.

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So anytime you want to come back, we'd love to

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have you on. Appreciate the discussion, Take care of pleasure

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of all right, God bless you all right.

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