Nov. 19, 2025

The Bill Martinez Show 11 19 25

The Bill Martinez Show 11 19 25
The Bill Martinez Show 11 19 25
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, Okay, let's do it.

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Bill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez, Hey.

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Good morning, welcome. Six minutes after the top of the

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r Bill Martinez here and got another great show. We're

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coming up, looking forward to hearing from doctor Paul ken Gore.

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He's going to be up. We're going to be talking about,

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you know, John Fetterman, what's going on with the Democratic Party,

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how splintered it has become. Also Scott Powell will be

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here in Jenny Beth Martin from the Tea Party Patriots,

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and also from Numbers USA, Jim Robb. But meanwhile, the

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conversation continues regarding you know, affordability. I'm still surprised. I

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got to tell you, I'm surprised that somehow the Republicans

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have lost a hold of that. Donald Trump was elected

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to office based on the affordability on the economic issues,

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and somehow, and it didn't take long, right, And it

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was all under the ruse. And I say it's a

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ruse by the Democrats because they're so fractured and desperate,

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they really don't have many policies or any policies to

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speak of that are very helpful that you could sit

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there and go, hey, I think that's a great idea

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and I can see where that could move the needle

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and our economy would be doing much better. All they

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can seem to talk about is how much they hate

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Trump and this this idea that you know, Trump is,

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you know, a dictator and all the other things that

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dangerously or associated I say dangerously, I mean because here

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we are, we're still finding out, as you know, on

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this attempted assassination more information and you know, it's like

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what was the FBI doing, what was the Biden administration

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doing during that period of time and letting somebody like this,

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you know, this attempted asassination individual, you know, to be

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all over the internet searching things that were quite obvious.

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I mean, we found out that four years earlier he

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was very pro Trump and then within you know, four years,

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I mean, this was amazing how radicalized he became. And

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it's just kind of bizarre, you know, the things that

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are coming out about crooks and you know, the things

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that he was associated with. But again, it also demonstrates

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how Donald Trump was kind of left out there and

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not very well protected. You know, it's almost like what

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are we doing here? I mean, we're sixty some years

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down the road the JFK assassination, still a lot of conspnspiracy.

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You know, still more than half the country still doesn't

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believe that it was Lee Harvey Oswald by himself who

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killed President Kennedy. And now here we have a modern

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era attempted assassination and we still have more questions than answers.

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Just kind of a sidebar there, okay, But it's just again,

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it speaks to the low expectation that our government wants

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us to have regarding their lack of their lack of efficiency.

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And of course right now, you know, we've got all

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the controversy about the Epstein files. You know, does it

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really matter to you? I mean, you know, to Epstein

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or not to Epstein, all this stuff. I mean I

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look at it as a political distraction. I mean, we

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just came off of a government shut down where government

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was shut down for over forty two days. I think

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forty three days is what is the official number it

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cost us, you know with it being shut down. I

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mean there's a cost to it, and it costs you know,

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we the people now probably one one and a half,

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you know points in the GDP. We're talking billions of

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dollars that it costs, you know, for what for the

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Democratic Party to, as they say, and as they said,

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to gain leverage. It wasn't to advance anything that would

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help Americans, the American In fact, it did just the opposite.

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It hit our It hit our wallets, and you know,

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you may say, well, you didn't see it, you know

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and feel it directly, but you know, when our government

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makes less money and it's going to come somewhere, okay,

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and it's going to come out of your your pocket,

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the American taxpayer will pay, you know for this charade.

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Because after it was all said and done, what did

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they what did they agree? They agreed to something that

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was proposed to them, you know, forty three days earlier.

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But they just had to say no and look at

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it as an opportunity for them to you know, bruise

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up Trump, you know, put him up, you know, and

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hang him up like a pinata, and you know, blame

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everything on him. Fortunately, our mainstream media doesn't have the

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influence that it's had in previous years. And I think

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most Americans could figure this out that this was a

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by the Democratic Party, and it really it was all

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about politics, and people were injured and they were scared

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by what they you know, what they did. But fortunately,

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on one hand, SNAP is backworking, and you might say

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unfortunately it is working and and so what's happening in

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the process is, you know, the American people have found

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out just like we did with Doge, you know, the

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kind of waste that has taken place. I don't know

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if you saw this or not, but Gary Bauer reported

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this is by way of the Secretary of Agriculture, Brooke Rawlins.

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She asked states to provide information about who is getting

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food stamps. This is just one minor program. Yere right,

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so she writes, the state says, look at I need

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a report. Let me know the numbers of people getting

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food stamps because the Trump administration needs to do its

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rightful duty and audit the program. Well, believe it or not,

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I know this probably you know, big surprised for only

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twenty nine states and most of them red states. Okay,

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Republican controlled states actually complied with her request. But look

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what she found out from that twenty nine state report.

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It's twenty nine states, a little over half the states

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reported and what she found was that more than one

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hundred and eighty thousand people are dead getting food stamps. Now,

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I don't know about you, but that doesn't make sense

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to me that dead people need food stamps. But we

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got one hundred and eighty thousand dead people getting food stamps,

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and that's just from these states that we know about.

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It's not counting. You know, the other twenty one states

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that you know are slow in getting the information, and

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I'll be surprised if we get it all from them anyway,

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to really find out what else is going to be extracted.

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The other number was five hundred thousand people are getting

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paid twice. But are we supposed to worry? I mean,

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you know, maybe in the calculations, say, well, Bill, that's

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just a you know, a minor percentage for all the

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money that goes into you know, these entitlement programs. So

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it's just, you know, like anything in any kind of business,

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you always think that there's going to be a you know,

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a built in number for waste. But you know, this

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is the people's money, and our government should be doing

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a better job. I think they should be down to

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the number. I mean, if you accept any kind of

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waste well, then you're going to have the kind of waste,

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frauden corruption that's been going on, you know, for decades

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in our country. I mean Elon Musk came in and

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said and looked at it. Even President Trump had agreed

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that there was probably at least a trillion dollars, maybe

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even two trillion dollars of fraud and waste that we

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could clean up. You know, because you know this situation

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with this budget, you got to understand, this is this

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is house on fire kind of emergency that needs to

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be addressed. But we just keep letting the house keep burning,

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and nobody's out there pouring water on it, certainly not

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the Democrats. You know, You've got a couple of Republicans

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out there with just garden hoses trying to put this

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fire out. You know, we're thirty eight trillion in counting

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in debt, and this is the reality of it all,

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and it seems that the government doesn't have the courage.

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You know, Trump is on his own and maybe a

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couple of others in the administration rawlins included, that want

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to point this out and do something about it. But

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it needs an all hands on debt concerted effort. If

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We're really serious about getting this under control because look

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at we have great programs to help people the poor

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who need help. But we don't need to keep promoting

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generational welfare because the impact that it's having on the individual,

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I mean, think about it. It holds them down, It

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makes them less. You know, with our taxpayer money, we

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Hey, welcome back nineteen minutes after the top of the hour,

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Bill Martinez here, and as I was saying before the

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break here, is that you know, we have instituted a systemic,

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modern day form of slavery with the welfare program. I mean,

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look at the trillions of dollars over the decade that

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we have invested I say invested. It's like we gave

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it away. You might as well just flushed it, because

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what did it do to the people that were recipients

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of welfare. Can they say, you know that they're better

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off as a result of it, or they just surviving

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or worse yet? That we're creating, you know, a generational

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dependent class. It's like you're in the hotel California. You

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get in, you can't come out. You know, you're there

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forever limited. You know, the talents and gift things that

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you have go unexpressed, underdeveloped, or not even developed at all,

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and then it tempts you into other forms of income

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and productivity. That's not healthy. It's not rewarding for yourself,

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your family, or you know, the people in your neighborhood,

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much less your country. But meanwhile you keep getting you know,

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free stuff and somehow it's acceptable. It's uh, it becomes rational.

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It's rationalized because look at you know, I'm poor, and

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you know, you got all these gazillionaires making just a

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huge amount of money, and somehow, in their own mind

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they begin to justify and generate this idea that it's

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not fair and they deserve it, they deserve this entitlement,

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but at what cost? And I look at it as

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a waste of humanity. You know, here's an individual who

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could have you know, gone to school and uh, maybe

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not even gone to school, but it's gone and got

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themselves a great job and set the example for their family,

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be able to keep their kids in school, be there

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with their families, and uh and be a stronger agency

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of this constitutional republic. But no, you you've you've crippled them.

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And uh, you know, it's like this one story. And

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you know, when I was in California, Uh, this gentleman

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that I knew, his mother was a music teacher. She

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very gifted. And what she did was she was on welfare.

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I think she had five or six kids and on welfare,

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and so as a side hustle, she would give music

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lessons to kids in the neighborhood. Right, Well, the social

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worker comes in and sayes, wow, she's talented and all that,

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and makes arrangements at taxpayer expense to put her through

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college to get a degree in music so that she

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could go in and participate in the real world and

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earn her income by going to work utilizing her skill set. Well,

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she goes through I think she graduated from USC, not

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a cheap college, okay, at government expense, at taxpayer expense, Okay.

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She graduates from USC, and within a couple of years

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she decides this is too hard. I don't want to

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work this hard. And so she goes back to her

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side hustle and starts giving private lessons in the neighborhood,

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quits her job, and she's back on welfare. And I mean,

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the stories. I know, this is just one story, but

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think about it, and I just think about her as

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an individual and what this did because it even though

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here she had this opportunity, she goes to SE I

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mean as a great college, and goes to SC graduates

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and ends up back on the welfare rules because that's

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what she knows. And this is sadly becomes a generational thing.

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We're just mediocritizing, as I say, we're just mediocratizing the citizenry,

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and it's not fair. It's not fair to the taxpayers.

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That's somebody who has this kind of talent and capability,

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but she's psychologically I mean, you could say psychologically impaired

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because of the system, because that's what the system creates

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and that's what it promotes. And that's just one story

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in the Naked City of how many millions of other

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people and millions of lives that could have been productive,

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could have done something incredibly significant. But this is how

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our government rolls. And you know, so here we are

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right now dealing. I mean, it was not that long ago.

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Donald Trump, in a State of the Union speech, said

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that America would never be a socialist country, right, And

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that was I think the same speech that Nancy Pelosi

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ripped up, if you remember. And obviously Nancy Pelosi knew

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something that Donald Trump didn't and most of us because

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we think, why would anybody in their right mindsh you socialism?

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I mean it, you know it shared. It's all about

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shared misery. You're depending on somebody else, not yourself. You know,

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a lot of people are drawn to America because it's

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about self responsibility. It's about that opportunity when you exercise

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self responsibility to be the best version of yourself. But

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the Democrats, it's not about that. For the Democratic Party,

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it's about getting re elected. That's the most important. It's

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not serving. They tell you, oh, I'm here to serve

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my constituents. Really well, look at the product of their service.

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The product of their service is little to speak of,

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you know, and you go back and you look at

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you know, whether we're talking about Obamacare Democratic you know,

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one hundred percent, no Republican voted for Obamacare. Okay, you

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talk about the Inflation Reduction Act under Joe Biden, you

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talk about these other I mean he added I think

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with government government programs in that his administration added I

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think four trillion dollars to the budget. And it was

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all under the guys you know of COVID and all that,

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and I get that. I think a little bit of

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that was also involved with Donald Trump. With Donald Trump,

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it was more of an emergency because we didn't know

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what we were dealing with. Of course, you know, for

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those that wanted to ignore what they were dealing with,

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they continued on with the mask mandates and all this

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stuff and the fear mongoring and everything else. But today,

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thankfully five years later, we're a lot smarter and we

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understood stand now at least most of it, I think

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the majority of the country. But still there's still many

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millions of people that are just vulnerable and they're waiting

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for the next pandemic to come around the you know,

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come around the corner, and they're going to surrender their

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freedoms and live under mandates from people like a Gavin

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Newsom who will restrict your movement and restrict your ability

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to go to church. You know, Oh, you can go

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to a strip bar, but you can't go to church

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and you got to wear a mask. But meanwhile he

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and his cronies will go to a very expensive, you know,

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French laundry restaurant in wine country and everything's fine for them,

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I'm honky dory, but the rest of us peons are

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having to live under the boot of this authoritarianism. This

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is truly authoritarianistic, they claim Trump is. But it's that

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projection issue that the Democrats are famous in doing. So again,

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this issue of socialism. I have written something It says

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that socialism is about half right and socialism in many ways.

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It parallels the Democratic Party, and especially we were just

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talking with Wayne Morrow with JBS and he reports that

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now there's over two hundred and fifty two hundred and

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fifty card carring Democratic socialists in America in our government.

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I mean, think about it. These are socialists that are

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in our government. They're not just in the country, they're

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in our government influencing policy. So it's no wonder that

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we are now dealing with something that Donald Trump said

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that America would never have to deal with. We've left

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ourselves vulnerable to this kind of influence. And when you

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talk about affordability, the reason that things are not so

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affordable is because of the past four years under Joe

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Biden and all the money that was spent, the pressure

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that was put on housing. You know, the cost of eggs,

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I mean, go right on down the line. Inflation nine percent.

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I mean that's unheard of. I mean that's not by accident.

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That was by design and the FEDS participation. So there

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were a lot of things that were working against the

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everyday American. Donald Trump comes in says no, and not

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enough of that stuff. It's America first, Americans first. He

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puts us as the priority and it's going to take

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a process. I mean, because this was a long time developing.

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I'm talking about this socialization of America's economy under Joe Biden,

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certainly four years and eight years under Barack Obama with

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the Affordable Care Act and in other actions that they

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did that really put stress on our economy so much

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so that you know, Obama himself thought the best we

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could ever do. He said the GDP of America would

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never get higher than two percent. It's just in the

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case concerned. I mean, that was the limit of his

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ability to look at the potential. Donald Trump comes in

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and says, no, I think I could do four or

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five percent, And I think he would have been well

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with the process and course interfered with our realities. But yeah, socialism,

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they're half right, they've identified the problem. The problem is

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Yeah, good morning Bill. Good to be with you.

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Well, you know, the Democrats are all excited because of

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the way I look at it, Paul, I think they

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00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:45.440
just have just bifurcated themselves and divided themselves all the more,

477
00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:50.160
and they're so fractured they can't seem to articulate a

478
00:27:50.279 --> 00:27:54.519
unifying message for the party. Am I missing something? No,

479
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you're not.

480
00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:57.880
I think you're right on. And really I think the

481
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New York mayoral race really that I mean, you had

482
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you had a guy in Zorah and Mom Donnie who

483
00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:10.319
you know, as these Democratic Socialists are doing. He was

484
00:28:10.359 --> 00:28:13.119
a member of the Democratic Socialists of America before. He's

485
00:28:13.160 --> 00:28:16.079
a member of the Democratic Party. So he decides to

486
00:28:16.160 --> 00:28:19.240
run for mayor on the ticket of the Democratic Party.

487
00:28:19.839 --> 00:28:24.599
But like AOC like ilhan Omar Rashida Talib, he's really

488
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he's really dsa Democratic Socialists of America. So he runs

489
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for that and another Democrat, Andrew Cuomo, who I don't

490
00:28:35.119 --> 00:28:37.799
like Andrew Cuomo, but you know he is more of

491
00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:43.519
a traditional Democrat certainly, so he challenges him and it

492
00:28:43.640 --> 00:28:45.960
ends up with you know, big battle, a faction or

493
00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:48.680
battle between those two factions kind of the you know,

494
00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:53.480
the new Democratic Socialist Democratic Left and the more traditional Democrats.

495
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And by the way, we're going to see this play

496
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out now in Los Angeles as well, where there's a yeah,

497
00:29:01.160 --> 00:29:06.200
a Democratic Socialist candidate is going to challenge Mayor Bass,

498
00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:10.240
who is likewise very vulnerable and should lose and deserves

499
00:29:10.279 --> 00:29:13.759
to lose. And we're seeing it in Seattle as well.

500
00:29:13.880 --> 00:29:17.359
Her name is Wilson. I believe there's also a Democratic Socialist.

501
00:29:17.480 --> 00:29:21.599
So so the Democratic Socialist of America. They have their script,

502
00:29:21.680 --> 00:29:24.920
they have their game plan, and you know, they're they're

503
00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:28.799
marching forward right now, and it's definitely ripping apart the

504
00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:32.079
Democratic Party. There's there's not unity in the Democratic Party

505
00:29:32.160 --> 00:29:32.519
right now.

506
00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:36.759
Yeah, you can't put that, uh, that philosophy to a

507
00:29:36.839 --> 00:29:40.200
national test. It won't pass. I mean, they can find

508
00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:44.720
certain areas that you know, in splinters and be able

509
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to sell them on it. But the fact of the

510
00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:49.680
matter is, like anything, it's going to have to have

511
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its uh, its day of recognition and already Mandamie is

512
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finding out and being told that all this free stuff

513
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he's offering now he's having to go back to the

514
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people that elect them, going well, it's you know, I'm

515
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not quite going to have to H'm going to be

516
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able to make it. And now he's trying to figure

517
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out how he can kiss Donald Trump's ring after attacking

518
00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:15.960
Donald Trump. But Donald Trump, to his credit, says, hey, look,

519
00:30:16.079 --> 00:30:18.839
I'm open to talk to him. I'd be surprised though,

520
00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:21.680
if Trump, you know, does have him, you know, come

521
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to the White House.

522
00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:26.519
Yeah. Well, mom, Donnie's finding out. As Margaret Thatcher said

523
00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:29.200
that the problem with socialism is you eventually run out

524
00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:32.880
of other people's money, right, And I mean, where are

525
00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:34.359
you going to get the money to pay for all

526
00:30:34.440 --> 00:30:35.039
this jazz?

527
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Right?

528
00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:36.079
Well?

529
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The other thing too, Paul, let me let me interject

530
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this because often people say that, you know, they quote

531
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Margaret Thatcher just like you did. But the other problem

532
00:30:43.480 --> 00:30:46.000
to me, which is a grander problem when you look

533
00:30:46.119 --> 00:30:49.720
back at Marxism and socialism and everything over the last

534
00:30:49.799 --> 00:30:53.720
hundred years, it's responsible for killing, yes killing with a

535
00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:58.680
capital gay, over one hundred million people. So the misery

536
00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:04.160
that comes with these isms is volatile.

537
00:31:05.279 --> 00:31:08.640
Yeah, and also too, I mean, this is what these

538
00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:12.559
modern democratic socialists will say, right, They'll say, well, you know,

539
00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:17.200
I'm a socialist, I'm not a communist. Right. Well, okay, look,

540
00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:20.839
according to Marx and Ingles and Lenin and Marxist Leninist theory,

541
00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:25.319
socialism is the final transitionary step to communism, right. And

542
00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:28.160
I got news for you folks. Also if you say, well,

543
00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:32.319
I'm a democratic socialist, will The Democratic Socialists of America

544
00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:36.000
lists themselves on their website as quote the largest socialist

545
00:31:36.160 --> 00:31:40.480
organization in the United States, and Lenin called him Lenin said,

546
00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:43.920
do we support democracy? Of course, we support democracy. What

547
00:31:43.960 --> 00:31:48.039
does democracy mean? It means equality? Right, So Lenin called

548
00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:51.720
himself a democratic socialist too. In fact, in fact, in fact,

549
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:56.160
the Bolsheviks were the Russian social Democratic Labor Party before

550
00:31:56.160 --> 00:31:59.559
they took on the name Bolsheviks in the early nineteen hundreds.

551
00:31:59.880 --> 00:32:03.440
So it all goes together. And you know, so they'll

552
00:32:03.440 --> 00:32:06.839
want to try to disassociate themselves from all the chaos

553
00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:09.480
and violence that has come from socialism over the years.

554
00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:11.559
And even if they don't want to try to equate

555
00:32:11.599 --> 00:32:17.400
it with with killing, well, how about starvation? How shortages, right,

556
00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:20.400
how about never having enough money to pay for your stuff?

557
00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:23.200
And right now, you know, you don't have to look

558
00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:25.759
at maos China. You don't have to look at Stalin's

559
00:32:25.799 --> 00:32:31.359
Soviet Union, look at Maduro and Hugo shavaz Is Venezuela

560
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:34.200
have urged and killed a million people there, but they've

561
00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:38.759
got millions of people with shortages and and going hungry.

562
00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:40.960
And they're eating out of the back of his trash trucks.

563
00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:45.160
Ball Yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right. I mean, Venezuela

564
00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:47.240
is it's I mean, it's used to be one of

565
00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:51.000
the richest countries in the Western Hemisphere. Exactly they I

566
00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:54.559
mean they toilet paper doesn't grow out of the ground

567
00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:58.960
in Venezuela, but oil does. And you people are waiting

568
00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:01.640
in line not only for toilet paper in Venezuela, but

569
00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:05.079
for gasoline for their cars. They can't even get the

570
00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:09.440
gasoline under their feet of all things. That's what socialism does.

571
00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:12.480
And the thing it's amazing, Paul, is just you know,

572
00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:16.599
you got Argentina right there that went through this experiment.

573
00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:19.119
Cuba went through the experiment. I mean, it's no big secret.

574
00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:23.759
You know, Cuba still mired in their experiment, as Venezuela is.

575
00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:26.519
But Argentina, by the grace of God, was able to

576
00:33:26.599 --> 00:33:27.640
extricate themselves.

577
00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:32.720
Right, yeah, yeah, that's right. And Argentina is a country

578
00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:37.079
that's just been filled with disastrous economic ideas. I mean,

579
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:43.359
while chay Gevera came out of Argentina liberation theology. You know,

580
00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:50.200
our friend Pope Francis I frequent frequently tell people, you know,

581
00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:54.319
Francis said the Marxist ideology is wrong. So he was

582
00:33:54.359 --> 00:33:57.160
against Marxism. But yeah, but he was kind of a

583
00:33:57.240 --> 00:33:59.839
classic Argentinian redistribution.

584
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:00.839
Right.

585
00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:03.920
So a lot of these you know, left wing economic

586
00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:07.240
ideas have been hatched and supported in Argentina. But the

587
00:34:07.319 --> 00:34:11.119
current leader of Argentina has had enough of that, and

588
00:34:11.239 --> 00:34:13.559
you know, the people there are pushing away from it

589
00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:16.760
at a time. And Venezuela, the people of Venezuela would

590
00:34:16.760 --> 00:34:19.559
like to push away from it too. And here in America,

591
00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:22.360
what are we doing. We're electing people, you know, like

592
00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:25.840
Mom Donnie in New York, of all things. And I

593
00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:30.559
should point out in New York who elected Mom Donnie. Well, women,

594
00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:34.960
especially young women, you know, women in like their twenties

595
00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:38.519
and thirties, voted for Mom Donnie, like eighty percent, phenomenal,

596
00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:42.199
just over the top, crazy number. And also, people who've

597
00:34:42.199 --> 00:34:45.920
lived in New York less than five years voted for

598
00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:48.599
Mom Donnie. People who lived in New York longer than

599
00:34:48.639 --> 00:34:52.559
five years voted two to one against them. Jews voted

600
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:55.599
two to one against them. Catholics voted almost two to

601
00:34:55.679 --> 00:35:00.000
one against them. So it's like young, woke white women

602
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:03.960
in New York who've lived there for less than five years,

603
00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:07.840
you know, they're responsible for this disaster. And Mom Donnie

604
00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:10.280
is learning right now that they don't have the money

605
00:35:10.920 --> 00:35:14.000
for him to tax and all the people he wants

606
00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:16.559
to tax or leaving New York if they've not already

607
00:35:16.639 --> 00:35:19.440
left New York. So once again the perennial problem of

608
00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:22.199
the socialist. You eventually run out of other people's money.

609
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:25.480
Well, of course, especially when you pick a clientele that's

610
00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:28.559
already you know, limited with their resources, because these gals,

611
00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:30.719
a lot of them are living five deep in a

612
00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:33.760
one bedroom apartment. Paul, Yeah, yeah.

613
00:35:33.679 --> 00:35:36.400
They are. And I actually have a daughter who lives

614
00:35:36.400 --> 00:35:39.719
in New York and she and her husband they were

615
00:35:39.719 --> 00:35:44.000
married last January, and they were initially paying on the

616
00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:47.119
Upper West Side and that is one of the wealthier

617
00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:49.079
areas of New York, but that's where they both went

618
00:35:49.119 --> 00:35:51.880
to school. They're paying thirty five hundred dollars a month

619
00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:56.320
for rent, and they moved a lot higher up up

620
00:35:56.320 --> 00:36:00.920
around one seventy eighth Street, and they're they're paying twenty

621
00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:02.760
five hundred or three thousand a month.

622
00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:05.440
Wow, Wow, that's great. Yeah. I was talking with Liz

623
00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:07.719
Peak and you know, she's there at Fox News contributor.

624
00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:10.599
She says, she says, Bill, one bedroom apartment's in Manhattan.

625
00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:14.920
That's it's five grand a month, Yeah for one bedroom. Yeah,

626
00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:19.519
that's what and increasing. So this is all contributing to

627
00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:23.639
that whole affordability issue that you know, the government and

628
00:36:23.679 --> 00:36:27.639
particularly a Democratic Party have promoted and allowing you know,

629
00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:30.239
Black Rock and State Street and Vanguard to come up

630
00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:32.239
and buy up all this housing. And then you got

631
00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:35.199
Joe Biden opening up the border, and you got millions

632
00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:39.639
upon millions of immigrants coming in and putting pressure on

633
00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:43.519
the supply. It's no wonder these kids are feeling incredible pain.

634
00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:46.199
But what they're doing is electing the very people that

635
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:47.760
caused the problem to begin with.

636
00:36:48.719 --> 00:36:50.800
Yeah, they don't get it, they don't They don't understand

637
00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:52.960
how it works. And I wrote a piece for American

638
00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:57.360
Spectator and I and it was titled New Yorkers elect

639
00:36:57.400 --> 00:37:01.760
another commie mayor and finding everyone to build a Blasio.

640
00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:05.159
We'd been here from twenty fourteen to twenty twenty one.

641
00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:09.679
And I start that article. I say, okay, guests, who

642
00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:13.440
said this quote? And it's about if I had my

643
00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:16.760
brothers that you know, the city would would own and

644
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:21.159
manage every single plot of land. We would control private property,

645
00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:25.119
each according to his needs. And then I answered, yeah,

646
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:27.840
I said, if you answered zowah and Mom Donnie, you're

647
00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:30.559
wrong exactly build the Blasio.

648
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:33.599
Right, Well, let's go. Let's go to quick break. Let's

649
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go to quick break. We'll pick it up on the

650
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other side. More from Paul Kengore after they stay with us.

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We're back with you, ladies, gentlemen, glad you could stay

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with us. I'm Bill Martinez. He is Paul ken Gore.

725
00:41:49.840 --> 00:41:53.079
Paul is a professor of political science at Grove City

726
00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:56.880
College in Grove City, Pennsylvania, author many books, and of

727
00:41:56.920 --> 00:41:59.440
course we were just talking about, you know, speaking of

728
00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:03.159
you know, the quote which almost comes out of the

729
00:42:03.199 --> 00:42:07.239
Communist Manifesto, a direct quote, but you're right, it was Deblasio.

730
00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:10.639
And here, you know, with all the studies and the

731
00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:13.800
books that you've written about communism and Marxism and everything

732
00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:16.239
like that. I mean, this is this is a no

733
00:42:16.320 --> 00:42:18.719
brainer for you, but it's it's hard to get it

734
00:42:18.760 --> 00:42:21.239
into the minds of these young people, Paul, that had

735
00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:26.599
been indoctrinated by these foreign professors who you know, command

736
00:42:26.719 --> 00:42:32.400
so much space and classroom time in New York City especially. Yeah.

737
00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:34.639
I mean, in fact, the case and point of that

738
00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:37.239
would be Zorah and mom Donnie, whose father is a

739
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:41.199
professor of Columbia, right, and in fact, going prior to that,

740
00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:43.559
and we have a really good article on this at

741
00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:48.159
American Spectator by Anne Hendershot. She talks about how Bowden

742
00:42:48.239 --> 00:42:53.440
College had had radicalized mom Donnie as an undergraduate, and

743
00:42:53.480 --> 00:42:56.559
it's really, you know, it's these these kind of you know,

744
00:42:56.800 --> 00:43:00.559
homegrown Marxists and socialists and left wing that we have

745
00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:05.199
in our universities where the where these students have been indoctrinated,

746
00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:07.639
and even prior to the universities, a lot of them

747
00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:11.119
didn't learn any better K through twelve in our public schools.

748
00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:14.159
So you know, you continue to send your children to

749
00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:19.360
the to these Yeah, these these these indoctrination mills, exactly

750
00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:21.480
the surprised that they end up with the beliefs that

751
00:43:21.519 --> 00:43:23.559
they have, and then they end up voting for people

752
00:43:23.679 --> 00:43:27.679
like that, and then they often end up campaigning as

753
00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:29.920
as as people like this. So you get what you

754
00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:32.679
paid for. And if you're going to pay, I'm to

755
00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:34.880
pay fifty to sixty grand a year for your kid

756
00:43:34.920 --> 00:43:38.480
to go to one of these colleges, I mean, don't

757
00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:42.559
expect them to come out as a radical left winger.

758
00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:47.599
In fact, they'll probably demonstrate their radicalness and the first

759
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Thanksgiving dinner that they come home to, you know, enjoy

760
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or turn the tables upside down, you know?

761
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So right, Yeah, that's right. They'll come there and then

762
00:43:57.519 --> 00:44:00.320
go around the table and say, well, if everybody could

763
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right now share their pronouns. Okay, Aunt Carol, would you

764
00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:08.639
like to go by she or he? Right? Uncle Jim,

765
00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:11.880
she or he or they? Right? Well, I am a

766
00:44:12.039 --> 00:44:15.519
they right, And then a Van Carroll says, uh, you

767
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:19.880
as a singular cannot be plural, right, Yes, you are

768
00:44:19.880 --> 00:44:23.159
not a they. I'm looking at one entity, right, what

769
00:44:23.280 --> 00:44:26.480
are you talking? Don't they teach you grammar and writing

770
00:44:26.679 --> 00:44:29.639
where you are? Right? Well? More important, they teach you

771
00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:33.000
know radical gender ideology. So I'm a they right?

772
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Yeah?

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And uh, you know, I really I thought. And by

774
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the way, I thought you are you going to church?

775
00:44:38.719 --> 00:44:40.000
Are you still pro life?

776
00:44:40.320 --> 00:44:40.400
No?

777
00:44:40.760 --> 00:44:44.960
Radical feminist? Pro choice? Everything. All it takes is about

778
00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:49.119
three months September October November Thanksgiving. You don't even have

779
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to wait till the sophomore or junior year. I mean

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00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:56.039
the exact is pretty much complete within just within about

781
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ten to twelve weeks.

782
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Yeah, and you know the next look is Annie looks

783
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over at month and Dad and says, and you took

784
00:45:01.679 --> 00:45:03.920
out a second mortgage on your home to put this

785
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game into school, to come back with this brilliance.

786
00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:10.119
Right right, Well but they got accepted to this Ivy

787
00:45:10.199 --> 00:45:15.559
League school. Well who cares, right if you've just ruined

788
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:21.039
Susie's life or their life by what you did. Yes,

789
00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:22.960
congratulations and you paid.

790
00:45:23.800 --> 00:45:26.199
So so what happened? I mean, how did we lose

791
00:45:26.239 --> 00:45:27.639
civic responsibility?

792
00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:33.760
Well, I mean we've lost I'd say more than civic responsibility,

793
00:45:33.800 --> 00:45:35.119
we've lost common sense.

794
00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:37.039
Oh that as well, And sure.

795
00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:43.480
We've lost we've also lost civil discourse. I would add that, uh,

796
00:45:43.760 --> 00:45:47.480
you know, we and especially again with the left, and

797
00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:50.519
you're seeing again and again, how who was it that

798
00:45:50.599 --> 00:45:53.840
I was reading about lately? Who's Who's a leftist? I

799
00:45:53.840 --> 00:45:56.480
wish I could remember his name right now, But he

800
00:45:56.559 --> 00:45:59.119
pointed out he said that, oh it was it was

801
00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:03.760
John Fetterman, my senator from Pennsylvania. And and Fetterman said,

802
00:46:04.119 --> 00:46:06.880
you know, I you know I would get he said,

803
00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:09.960
I would, I'd get attacked online. I'd get called names

804
00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:14.199
by conservatives and maga people people on the right. But

805
00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:17.840
but they lacked the meanness of the people on the left,

806
00:46:18.239 --> 00:46:21.480
the people on the left. There there's a cruelty there

807
00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:25.480
a viciousness and and he he also said it's the

808
00:46:25.519 --> 00:46:28.639
people on the left too who threatened the violence.

809
00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:32.079
There and they're accepting of it. Paul, I mean, look

810
00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:35.400
at the look at the research says now showing. I mean,

811
00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:38.800
I'm I'm shocked at how many people think it's okay

812
00:46:39.039 --> 00:46:41.760
if if President Trump was to get assassinated.

813
00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:46.280
Yeah, yeah, that's right. And remember the bring again, bring

814
00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:49.039
this back to teachers, the teacher and the public school,

815
00:46:49.079 --> 00:46:51.840
the public school teacher. And this was at one of

816
00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:55.480
the No Kings rallies and it was outside of Chicago,

817
00:46:56.079 --> 00:46:58.599
and a couple of guys drove by in a truck

818
00:46:59.079 --> 00:47:02.239
with a MAGA fly in a TPUs A flag and

819
00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:05.360
she was sticking her finger to her to her neck

820
00:47:05.519 --> 00:47:09.800
like mimicking getting shot in the neck like Charlie Kirk.

821
00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:13.199
It was huge. She thought that was funny. And she

822
00:47:13.239 --> 00:47:18.400
didn't get removed from her position. She's she's teaching kids.

823
00:47:17.480 --> 00:47:21.679
She's teaching children. And you know, people on the right,

824
00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:24.039
I mean, you and I are conservatives. We know this.

825
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:26.480
We've been conservatives for decades. We can speak to this.

826
00:47:26.840 --> 00:47:28.679
I mean, we'll see people on the right all the

827
00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:31.480
time who will, of course make fun of liberals say

828
00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:33.639
crude things about left wingers. I mean, go to the

829
00:47:33.679 --> 00:47:37.719
reader comments of any conservative publication, but you don't see

830
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:41.840
an advocacy of violence exactly like you do, like a

831
00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:45.840
serious advocacy of violence among so many people on the left.

832
00:47:46.039 --> 00:47:48.239
And it's those people on the left too that accuse

833
00:47:48.320 --> 00:47:51.159
us of hate. But you can see the hate just

834
00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:52.119
pouring out of that.

835
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:55.239
Oh yeah, And I'll tell you, you know, and to

836
00:47:55.280 --> 00:47:57.800
connect with what we were talking about earlier, I mean

837
00:47:57.840 --> 00:48:03.239
the campaigns that just the Democrats campaigned on hatred and

838
00:48:03.400 --> 00:48:07.840
rage towards Donald Trump. No policies, nothing positive to talk about.

839
00:48:08.079 --> 00:48:10.039
It's just that they were going to go and fight

840
00:48:10.119 --> 00:48:12.760
against Donald Trump. And you go, wait a minute, you're

841
00:48:13.079 --> 00:48:17.000
fighting against a guy who's been in office for ten months.

842
00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:21.039
In one day he closed the border. He uh, you

843
00:48:21.079 --> 00:48:22.840
know the price of eggs now. I was just telling

844
00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:24.960
somebody else I about eighteen eggs the other day. I'm

845
00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:31.239
in Florida. It was three dollars. Yeah, and it's gone down. Gases, yeah,

846
00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:34.039
gas is two sixty here now right right?

847
00:48:34.639 --> 00:48:38.199
I mean is that? Yeah? I know I noticed the

848
00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:40.840
price that the gas price difference the other day. I

849
00:48:40.880 --> 00:48:45.480
have a big giant thirty gallon twelve passenger van looks

850
00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:47.159
so that we call her a Baptist school.

851
00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:49.400
But but you got you got lots of chill in

852
00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:51.280
your transport. I do.

853
00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:55.239
I've got eight kids. Yeah, but for the for the

854
00:48:55.320 --> 00:49:00.440
longest time, I'm talking at least five years right, entirety

855
00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:03.719
of Biden administration, it would cost me over one hundred

856
00:49:03.719 --> 00:49:07.119
dollars to fill up that tank. Because it's the thirty

857
00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:09.880
gallon tank. There's at least three and a half dollars

858
00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:15.719
a gallon. Pennsylvania, we've got outrageously high excise taxes on gasoline,

859
00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:17.920
and I noticed the other day that I did it

860
00:49:18.039 --> 00:49:21.480
for well under one hundred dollars, and I thought, yeah, look,

861
00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:24.559
there you go prices account of gasoline and no one's

862
00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:25.920
really even talking about it.

863
00:49:26.199 --> 00:49:27.960
Yeah, you can go home and tell your wife, Hey,

864
00:49:28.039 --> 00:49:29.719
I get to take you out to dinner now.

865
00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:33.280
Right, exactly? Yeah, or buy an extra dozen.

866
00:49:33.039 --> 00:49:36.679
Eggs, yeah, exactly. Well, you know you mentioned John Fetterman,

867
00:49:36.719 --> 00:49:41.480
but you also wrote here that in terms of Vetterman

868
00:49:42.159 --> 00:49:47.599
as commendably, you say, the independent Pennsylvania senator a potential

869
00:49:47.760 --> 00:49:49.360
present presidential candidate.

870
00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:53.119
Yeah. I thought that was a really interesting piece so our.

871
00:49:53.199 --> 00:49:57.239
David Katrone at American Spectator wrote a piece on the

872
00:49:57.320 --> 00:50:00.519
possibility of Fetterman maybe running for president. I have a

873
00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:04.480
hard time believing that he'd run for president. Katron thought

874
00:50:04.519 --> 00:50:07.920
that maybe part of this is like almost a brand

875
00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:12.280
that Fetterman is seeking to make himself a more sensible, moderate,

876
00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:15.400
common sense, middle of the road Democrat. And I don't

877
00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:18.239
think it's branding on Fetterman's part. I think it's sincere.

878
00:50:18.880 --> 00:50:21.880
I'm from western Pennsylvania, I'm from Pittsburgh. I know guys

879
00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:26.039
like Fetterman. I grew up with guys who look like right,

880
00:50:26.719 --> 00:50:28.280
you know, guys, guys who.

881
00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:30.840
With the sweatshirt and everything, right, Yeah.

882
00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:33.599
Yeah, yeah, totally. I had I had. I had a

883
00:50:33.639 --> 00:50:36.039
friend named Jim growing up who was like a dead

884
00:50:36.119 --> 00:50:39.920
ringer for Fetterman, kind of like Western Pa, blue collars,

885
00:50:40.039 --> 00:50:43.039
steel city, you know, Pittsburgh Steeler fan type of guy.

886
00:50:43.639 --> 00:50:46.719
And and but what I do like about Fetterman is

887
00:50:46.760 --> 00:50:51.079
that he really is, indeed commendably independent. He thinks for himself.

888
00:50:51.400 --> 00:50:54.679
He doesn't walk in lock step like all the Lemmings

889
00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:56.000
and the party well.

890
00:50:56.079 --> 00:50:59.280
Because he says he says, he says it's country first,

891
00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:01.000
before Paul before party.

892
00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:05.320
Yeah, that's right. And look, and I was mentioning this

893
00:51:05.400 --> 00:51:08.920
over the past weekend. I was at the Pittnore d

894
00:51:09.199 --> 00:51:13.239
Pittnore Dame game outside of Heinsfield, and Pat McAfee, who

895
00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:15.639
was at Pittsburgh NATA, was there with the ESPN Game

896
00:51:15.719 --> 00:51:18.559
day and he was pointing to the three rivers behind

897
00:51:18.639 --> 00:51:21.599
him in the city that birth not only great football,

898
00:51:21.719 --> 00:51:24.239
but America through all the steel that we built. And

899
00:51:24.280 --> 00:51:25.920
I said to my son, I said, you know that

900
00:51:26.119 --> 00:51:31.480
steel company, US Steel is still called US Steel because

901
00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:36.840
of the bipartisan work of Donald Trump, John Fetterman, Marco Rubio,

902
00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:41.960
jd Vance, Joe Mansion, and all these guys who, even

903
00:51:41.960 --> 00:51:44.519
with the Japanese coming to help out and acquire it,

904
00:51:44.519 --> 00:51:47.360
didn't want it to be called Nippon Steel, right, they

905
00:51:47.360 --> 00:51:50.519
wanted it to be called US Steel. That's putting America

906
00:51:50.639 --> 00:51:55.159
first for sure, right, that's not putting ideology first. That's right,

907
00:51:55.159 --> 00:51:55.639
that's right.

908
00:51:56.039 --> 00:51:57.559
Well, we got to leave it there for now. Is

909
00:51:57.599 --> 00:52:01.119
always appreciate the time. Paul ken Gore, Professor of Political

910
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Science and Chief Academic Fellow the Institute for Faith and

911
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Freedom at Grove City College. Happy Thanksgiving Early is that.

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Okay, yeah, you got it. Absolutely Happy Thanksgiving to you

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as well. Bill.

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Hey, good morning. Good to have you with us, Bill

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Martinez here with Scott Powell. My throat is a little froggy,

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thank god, working out. But Scott Powell is sounding quite

943
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healthy as he always is, so we're good to go

944
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here and here to talk about, you know, Veterans Day

945
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and maybe as a kind of as a postmark to

946
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Veterans Day and why so important Scott? And what does

947
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it mean? You know, because I see Veterans Day as

948
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being so symbolic of the true fabric of what America represents,

949
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don't you think?

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Absolutely absolutely? It's you know, it's a unique holiday. You know,

951
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our government came up with this Uniform Holidays bill in

952
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the late sixties, you know, to move the holidays to Mondays.

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In other words, you wouldn't really celebrate the day of

954
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you know, what the day was you would celebrate. You

955
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would make sure that Washington's birthday falls on a Monday.

956
00:54:38.159 --> 00:54:41.440
Martin Luther King's celebration day comes on a Monday. For

957
00:54:42.039 --> 00:54:46.239
why for longer weekends, okay for the government employees. Well,

958
00:54:46.280 --> 00:54:49.519
you know, it's interesting that the veterans said, no, we're

959
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not moving our holiday. The reason that Veterans Day was

960
00:54:53.159 --> 00:54:56.039
established on November eleventh was that this was the day

961
00:54:57.159 --> 00:55:03.800
the eleventh month, the eleventh day of the eleventh month,

962
00:55:03.880 --> 00:55:08.840
at the eleventh hour, there would be as an armistice,

963
00:55:08.880 --> 00:55:12.000
a cessation of hostilities between the Allied powers.

964
00:55:12.039 --> 00:55:15.320
And this is in World War one, World War one.

965
00:55:15.239 --> 00:55:18.480
World War one, that was agreed and it was honored,

966
00:55:19.119 --> 00:55:23.000
and that was the end of the war. In other words,

967
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you know, the armistice actually became the permanent status that

968
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led to peace. So this was really an important, very

969
00:55:33.400 --> 00:55:36.199
important to the veterans. So they refused to say, no,

970
00:55:36.239 --> 00:55:40.000
we're not moving our holiday. Right November eleventh and it's

971
00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:43.280
going to be eleven November eleventh. So in some ways

972
00:55:43.079 --> 00:55:47.039
it's a reminder that, you know, the fabric of the

973
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soul of people who served the country in the military

974
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is sort of very different than politicians who will move

975
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things around for their convenience.

976
00:55:58.760 --> 00:56:01.119
Yeah, like for them, didn't mean anything but yet for

977
00:56:01.159 --> 00:56:04.159
the veterans that day mental lot. You know, it's interesting

978
00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:09.679
because that armistice was signed at five in the morning,

979
00:56:10.599 --> 00:56:14.280
and the armistice itself didn't take place until the eleventh

980
00:56:14.320 --> 00:56:19.639
hour on the eleventh right, And did you realize eleven

981
00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:24.800
thousand men died between that time before the actual armistice

982
00:56:24.800 --> 00:56:28.400
took place, between five o'clock to eleven eleven thousand, So

983
00:56:28.920 --> 00:56:32.559
it is a sacred day. And I got to tell you,

984
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being a former Marine, coming from a military family, our

985
00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:42.880
father served in World War World War two, three of

986
00:56:42.920 --> 00:56:46.760
his children, myself and my two brothers served in the military.

987
00:56:47.880 --> 00:56:50.760
I just am honored, you know, I was honored to serve,

988
00:56:51.239 --> 00:56:54.599
and I'm honored to continue with the traditions of the

989
00:56:54.639 --> 00:57:00.880
military because they're so foundational. I mean, they are why

990
00:57:01.400 --> 00:57:05.880
we have America. In fact, I don't know if I've

991
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read this to you, but this is a great I

992
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don't know if you'll call it a poem that was

993
00:57:11.880 --> 00:57:17.400
written by Charles Michael Province, a US Army veteran. He said,

994
00:57:17.679 --> 00:57:20.920
it is the soldier, not the minister, who has given

995
00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:24.440
us freedom of religion. It is the soldier, not the reporter,

996
00:57:25.000 --> 00:57:27.679
who has given us freedom of the press. It is

997
00:57:27.719 --> 00:57:30.480
the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom

998
00:57:30.519 --> 00:57:34.159
of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer,

999
00:57:34.440 --> 00:57:37.719
who has given us freedom to protest. It is the soldier,

1000
00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:40.280
not the lawyer, who has given us the right to

1001
00:57:40.360 --> 00:57:44.039
a fair trial. It is the soldier, not the politician,

1002
00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:47.000
who has given us the right to vote. It is

1003
00:57:47.039 --> 00:57:51.000
the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag,

1004
00:57:51.239 --> 00:57:55.079
and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows

1005
00:57:55.679 --> 00:57:57.960
the protester to burn the flag.

1006
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Scott, I need to get that for me. Please text me, yeah,

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I will.

1008
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I will send it to you and anybody else. If

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00:58:06.159 --> 00:58:08.360
you didn't get it, I'd be happy Just drop me

1010
00:58:08.400 --> 00:58:11.840
a note at Bill at Bill Martinez live dot com

1011
00:58:11.880 --> 00:58:14.840
and be happy to forward that to you because that's

1012
00:58:14.840 --> 00:58:18.239
so touching to me because it speaks. It speaks to

1013
00:58:18.280 --> 00:58:21.199
what you were talking about, Scott. It speaks to our integrity,

1014
00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:24.559
you know, as a nation, and maybe we need to

1015
00:58:24.599 --> 00:58:27.199
have a conversation as words matter. Lots of words are

1016
00:58:27.199 --> 00:58:29.920
flying around there and everybody has different idea, but integrity

1017
00:58:29.960 --> 00:58:32.280
is solid. It means, it's meaningful.

1018
00:58:31.920 --> 00:58:36.400
Right absolutely, it's everything. It's it's the basis of trust,

1019
00:58:36.480 --> 00:58:41.079
and trust is the basis for everything else, everything else.

1020
00:58:41.159 --> 00:58:44.280
When we trust our government because it was legitimately elected,

1021
00:58:44.920 --> 00:58:48.159
we will obey it, we will honor it's you know,

1022
00:58:48.400 --> 00:58:55.320
it's rules and it's regulations, its laws, because it has legitimacy.

1023
00:58:55.400 --> 00:58:59.000
When we undermine the legitimacy of government, we lose trust

1024
00:58:59.000 --> 00:59:02.800
in our government. Then it all begins to dissipate and

1025
00:59:02.840 --> 00:59:03.559
fall upon.

1026
00:59:03.760 --> 00:59:09.440
It's foundational integrity is what our laws, our constitution, our

1027
00:59:09.599 --> 00:59:12.840
form of government is built on. Any compromise in our

1028
00:59:12.880 --> 00:59:17.679
integrity that those foundational principles, those billers compromises the outcome.

1029
00:59:18.039 --> 00:59:20.760
And this is what we have seen over the years,

1030
00:59:20.760 --> 00:59:23.280
slowly but surely, to the point we're thirty eight trillion

1031
00:59:23.280 --> 00:59:27.280
dollars in debt, We've got socialism rising in our country.

1032
00:59:27.760 --> 00:59:33.480
Our constitutional rights are being dissipated, misrepresentation in Congress and

1033
00:59:33.559 --> 00:59:37.159
in the Senate by dually elected officials, we hope, but

1034
00:59:37.239 --> 00:59:39.599
then we still wonder, you know, were they, you know,

1035
00:59:39.760 --> 00:59:42.760
with all the shenanigans that were going on, especially that

1036
00:59:42.800 --> 00:59:45.320
we're exposed in twenty twenty. And maybe that's the reason

1037
00:59:45.360 --> 00:59:48.119
we should be thankful for twenty twenty because twenty twenty

1038
00:59:48.239 --> 00:59:50.440
exposed to us that hey, look at you think it's

1039
00:59:50.480 --> 00:59:52.360
bad now, You got to know it's been going on

1040
00:59:52.400 --> 00:59:55.079
for decades. And we look back and you know, even

1041
00:59:55.079 --> 00:59:57.960
when you have you know, democrats going, well, if the

1042
00:59:57.960 --> 01:00:01.800
truth be known. JFK back in nineteen sixty got elected

1043
01:00:01.840 --> 01:00:06.000
because of Shenanigans in Chicago, you know, and going, you've

1044
01:00:06.039 --> 01:00:10.119
got to be kidding me. So like anything, it's not

1045
01:00:10.159 --> 01:00:14.159
necessarily you know, one event, but it's a series events

1046
01:00:14.519 --> 01:00:17.639
that causes you to miss the mark. And we've been

1047
01:00:17.719 --> 01:00:21.840
missing the mark and compromising our integrity for decades, Scott.

1048
01:00:22.679 --> 01:00:25.880
And the problem is that when you compromise in you know,

1049
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it just seems as though when you step over lines,

1050
01:00:29.320 --> 01:00:32.440
it expands and you get compromised in more and more

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01:00:33.159 --> 01:00:37.840
areas of our you know, of our you know, not

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01:00:37.880 --> 01:00:42.599
only our lives, but the social fabric, the culture, the politics,

1053
01:00:42.960 --> 01:00:48.039
things all get compromised. And when they get and ultimately,

1054
01:00:48.519 --> 01:00:53.039
unless it's corrected, people get comfortable with the compromised way

1055
01:00:53.079 --> 01:00:58.000
that things operate. Everything's based on based on a false

1056
01:00:59.159 --> 01:01:02.719
false incentive, false reality, and it gets very hard to

1057
01:01:02.760 --> 01:01:05.079
correct it. And that's what we're that's what we're dealing

1058
01:01:05.119 --> 01:01:08.199
with right now in the in the in the so

1059
01:01:08.239 --> 01:01:12.320
called Maga movement, it is a return of authority to

1060
01:01:12.360 --> 01:01:16.719
the people and that the people will decide what kind

1061
01:01:16.760 --> 01:01:19.280
of country and what kind of government we have.

1062
01:01:20.599 --> 01:01:24.000
And well, based on integrity Scott, what should our government

1063
01:01:24.039 --> 01:01:27.400
be producing? What should be the outcome of our government?

1064
01:01:28.039 --> 01:01:31.400
The outcome of our government should be a system of justice,

1065
01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:34.840
the fulfillment of the Bill of Rights. The first ten

1066
01:01:34.880 --> 01:01:41.519
amendments are critical. And a government that's that that stays

1067
01:01:41.519 --> 01:01:45.960
within its boundaries, it's limited. The legislature performs its function,

1068
01:01:47.039 --> 01:01:50.920
the executive its function, and the judiciary its function. And

1069
01:01:51.039 --> 01:01:53.360
yes they do check and balance each other, but they

1070
01:01:53.440 --> 01:01:54.760
don't usurp each other.

1071
01:01:55.639 --> 01:01:55.840
Right.

1072
01:01:56.599 --> 01:02:00.000
You know, these judges that have you know, have used

1073
01:02:00.079 --> 01:02:03.760
served executive authority. They ought to be removed, They ought

1074
01:02:03.760 --> 01:02:07.920
to be fired. That that's a constitutional that's a violation

1075
01:02:07.960 --> 01:02:12.400
of the constitution. So so and and and our Congress

1076
01:02:12.400 --> 01:02:15.760
which has created all these government agencies that are accountable

1077
01:02:15.800 --> 01:02:19.719
to nobody because they're not elected to create all these

1078
01:02:19.880 --> 01:02:23.079
rules of how our country functions. You know, people, people

1079
01:02:23.119 --> 01:02:25.880
should ask their ask a question, why is it that

1080
01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:29.400
we that we rely on China for all our rare

1081
01:02:29.480 --> 01:02:33.239
earth minerals that are potential for our military, essential for

1082
01:02:33.320 --> 01:02:36.159
our high technology. How did we get to the place

1083
01:02:36.639 --> 01:02:42.960
where we're relying on our our our mortal enemy China.

1084
01:02:43.400 --> 01:02:46.719
But I'll tell you, I'll tell you how we got there.

1085
01:02:46.800 --> 01:02:48.800
Okay, Well wait and tell wait until we get on

1086
01:02:48.800 --> 01:02:50.880
the other side and tell us. Okay, we've gotten more

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from Scott Powell after this, stay with us.

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Scott's got his book.

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I'll say you, if.

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Bless yourself early Scott's book, which is a number one

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what we're talking about, rediscovering America. I'll also say Scott

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rediscovering Americans because one of the things you touched on.

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We're going to get back to the China thing here

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in just a minute. But I think It's really key

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that you touched on, and that is the individual. It

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starts with the individual. Our government should ensure that the

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individual has the strength and well being to be the

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best version of themselves. That's what freedom allows you to do.

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Opportunity and choices and that sort of thing. It doesn't

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constrict you and say, oh, well, if you color outside

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the lines, you go straight to jail. No, it affords

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you the opportunity to express your personality and your very

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being so that you can be the best version of yourself,

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to be the best citizen of yourself, so that we

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have the best communities, and we have the best representation,

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and people that represent us in Congress are the best

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versions of themselves. Because it's all relevant to integrity, the

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foundational principles that are glued to our constitution and the

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things that are enumerated in our Constitution and declaration of independence.

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Is that fair to say?

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That's absolutely fair to say, phil And the only thing

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I had to add to that is that isn't it

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interesting how we're created? Our creator made us all uniquely different, right, talents,

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different ideas at different levels of you know, different orientations,

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01:09:11.239 --> 01:09:16.960
different skill sets, different natural inclinations, and this diversity uniqueness

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of everybody, when it's put together in a free economy,

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it's very powerful.

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And that's why and that's why we grew so fast, Scott,

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Look where we are in two hundred and fifty years.

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What other country, what other country? And the planet allows

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you this kind of opportunity.

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Well, I mean others have tried to follow us, but

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unfortunately we've allowed, you know, corruption to creep in. And

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the ultimate sort of economic corruption is socialism. I mean,

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we just got went through an election in New York

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where we where we openly elected someone who will undermine

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the whole basis for New York City by his philosophy.

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I mean if he's allowed to carry out. And the

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01:09:59.439 --> 01:10:02.479
reason is so socialism doesn't work. Not only does it,

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you know, does it not hold individuals accountable for anything,

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because it's so everything's socialized, so you socialize the failure

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01:10:10.960 --> 01:10:15.399
if you will. One's no one's responsible for anything. But

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it SAPs the It SAPs the morale, the moral the

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01:10:21.680 --> 01:10:24.880
moral quality of the individual. The individual can't make a

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01:10:24.880 --> 01:10:28.840
difference anymore, he can't pursue his dreams, he can't create

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01:10:28.920 --> 01:10:34.399
something unique and have the marketplace validated and success is

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01:10:34.439 --> 01:10:40.119
rewarded monetarily as well as status. It's like social socialism

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01:10:40.319 --> 01:10:42.319
kills all of that exactly.

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It mediocritizes people. Scott, I don't know if you saw

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01:10:45.279 --> 01:10:49.239
this video. There was a I think it's a World

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War two British soldier and he was on BBC and

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01:10:55.399 --> 01:10:59.800
looking at where London, where England is right now. He's

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very disappointed. He just said, gosh, if I'd have known

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01:11:03.760 --> 01:11:06.359
our country was going to end up like this is

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01:11:06.399 --> 01:11:09.880
the current condition of England right now, which is a

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01:11:09.920 --> 01:11:15.039
mess because it's socialism. Many roads down ahead of America

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01:11:15.119 --> 01:11:18.039
right now, but it's a port end of what America

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01:11:18.439 --> 01:11:21.600
you know, could be. And he says, I'm disappointed. If

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I'd have known that this is where our country would

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end up, I never would have fought the war and

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01:11:27.640 --> 01:11:28.680
it wouldn't have been worth it.

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That's right, that's right, and that's why it's so important

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01:11:32.760 --> 01:11:36.560
when we think about our position as a country relative

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01:11:36.680 --> 01:11:40.239
to the challenges of the world, and those challenges come

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01:11:40.760 --> 01:11:45.920
right now from multiple places. Here we're dealing with, you know,

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Venezuelan gangs and having to take them out at sea,

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01:11:50.960 --> 01:11:53.640
but in the bigger picture, China is our greatest threat,

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and they have huge military power and they have the

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01:11:56.560 --> 01:11:59.960
ambition to rule the world. And so if we don't,

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if we can't uh have a system that that people

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really believe in and trust, how will we have the

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the inn If we don't have the internal fortitude, we

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won't win wars.

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It goes back to integrity, Scott, like you're saying, we

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have to decouple from all these things that we've been

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attached to. You know, China has come in, They've bought

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01:12:27.479 --> 01:12:32.079
our politicians, they have bought our universities, uh, you know,

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and they have taken over the minds of professors and

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01:12:35.560 --> 01:12:40.000
you know, all on down. And there's been a decoupling

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of American principles, foundational constitutional principles. There's been an uncoupling

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of that and the exchanges. Hey, we're going to buy

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01:12:48.119 --> 01:12:51.439
into the Chinese because the Chinese are you know, they're

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putting a lot of money in my bank account. And

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they've they've captured them, which is Moranda the mind statement,

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01:12:57.560 --> 01:13:00.680
and uh, you know, uh, we've got influence people in

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01:13:01.119 --> 01:13:05.640
her government, their children, princelings, she refers to them, that

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01:13:05.680 --> 01:13:08.520
have been captured by the communist Chinese. And there's others

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01:13:08.640 --> 01:13:11.359
I mean, we look at communist China, but Russia is

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doing it everybody around the world that has money. You know,

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the Arabs have been doing this because they see the

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greed of America and that we have not held onto

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our integrity and the principles of our constitution to protect

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01:13:28.520 --> 01:13:31.359
it in such a way that we've allowed people to

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be selfish and get away with it. And here they are,

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with impunity, getting away with it, making themselves rich at

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the expense of the American taxpayer.

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Well, say, yes, it's absolutely true, and that's why the

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return to integrity is so so important. It's sot essential.

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It's our future. Scott, and I'm so glad that you

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addressed this issue. And again, you know, Veteran's Day, it's

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01:13:59.119 --> 01:14:02.960
a memorial for us to remember why, you know, why

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we celebrate veterans and what they've done. I mean these veterans,

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and of course Veterans Day is primarily for the living

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those that have served. Memorial Day is for those that

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died in combat. And as I was explained to a

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01:14:17.239 --> 01:14:21.319
group yesterday, that's expanding because you've got veterans who served

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01:14:21.359 --> 01:14:24.279
in combat and came home and died subsequent But it

1288
01:14:24.359 --> 01:14:27.279
was subsequent to the injuries they received in combat, and

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01:14:27.359 --> 01:14:30.119
they should be regarded as GoldStar families as well, in

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01:14:30.159 --> 01:14:34.119
my humble opinion. But the fact of the matter is

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01:14:34.119 --> 01:14:38.039
is they've paid the price, and we need to hear

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01:14:38.079 --> 01:14:42.000
their voices from the grave, screaming and yelling and saying, hey,

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01:14:42.000 --> 01:14:44.199
look it. You know, you need to get back to

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first principles.

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Right absolutely. And you know, it's a couple of things

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that I noted in the article that I wrote that

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was published yesterday in several places on Veterans Day American

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Thinker town Hall, was that thirty forty fifty years ago,

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most of the a majority of our elected congress people

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01:15:10.520 --> 01:15:15.439
a high majority, like seventy percent, had served in the military.

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And that service in the military does something to people

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that makes them want to serve politically for the right motivation.

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You serve in the military because you want to defeat

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01:15:29.319 --> 01:15:32.119
the enemy. You serve politically because you want to also

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01:15:32.239 --> 01:15:36.159
defeat another enemy, which is you know, you know, which

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01:15:36.199 --> 01:15:39.199
is sometimes an overseas enemy, sometimes it's an internal enemy,

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01:15:39.600 --> 01:15:47.720
corruption and so forth. Now, the percentage of our congresspeople,

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01:15:48.279 --> 01:15:53.319
senators and representatives, it's down in the twenty percentile that

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01:15:53.359 --> 01:15:57.800
have served in the military, and it's showing up, isn't it.

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In terms of the CaAl of our government. We have

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01:16:01.600 --> 01:16:04.760
politicians who are out for themselves, not really caring about

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01:16:05.000 --> 01:16:07.960
the welfare the right thing to do for the country. See.

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01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:09.560
But that goes back to what we talked about in

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the first segment, Scott, that's what this system develops. It's

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not developing quality individuals who become quality citizens that become

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01:16:17.760 --> 01:16:24.720
quality uh, you know, constituents and elected officials. You know,

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it starts with the individual and the government is incentivizing

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01:16:28.720 --> 01:16:30.960
all this bad behavior and this corruption.

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You're so right. So what we need is a spiritual revival.

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I talk about that a lot. Yes, so important, because

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you know, when you have a spiritual revival that you

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bring about God back in not only to the to

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the culture, but you bring God back into people's lives exactly.

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You know, then people they they're they're transformed, they're different

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because we're.

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Dealing we're dealing with the truth. Scott.

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Yes, you see, he's a lot opinion.

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It's not just you and me talking our ideas. It's

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truth from God.

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Yes. But the point is that when people have God

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in their lives, they tend to do the right thing

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even when no one's looking. In other words, it's not

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just a matter of following the law. Because you can't

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01:17:17.960 --> 01:17:24.039
have enough law enforcement people to make sure everybody stays

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01:17:24.079 --> 01:17:27.039
within the lines and the boundaries. There will still be

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people that get away with things. And that's what's happening.

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Everyone's getting away with everything.

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Now.

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If God is in the if God is in people's lives,

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that all begins to go away. People want to do

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the right thing because they know that God is watching them,

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that they have an eternal life that will be affected

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by how they behave and what they do. When no

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one is looking.

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Exactly well and you're exactly right, Scott, we want more

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of the right thing, and right now we have less

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of the right thing and more of the bad thing.

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Need to, you know, rebalance those scales a bit, to

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Hey, good morning, welcome back Bill Martinez here along with

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Jenny Beth Martin from the Tea Party Patriots Action. Jenny Beth,

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good morning, good morning.

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So good to be with you, Bill.

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Always good to be with you. Let's talk affordability. How

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did the Democrats steal that away from the Republicans? I mean,

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I don't get this. I mean the history of the

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Democratic Party just even in the four years prior to

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Trump was it was anything but affordable, you know.

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You know, but go ahead, well, yeah, it was anything

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but affordable. And prices haven't come down, and so people

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still feel like things are not affordable. And Bill, I'm

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not sure that prices will come down.

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I don't know.

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I'm not enough of an economic expert to be able

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to say that after inflation prices come back down. What

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we have to do is grow the economy enough that

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the new price levels are not such a plastic difference

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between the amount of money that people make so they

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make more money and it isn't so hard to be

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able to afford the prices. I don't know that my

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hand gestures there made much sense, but the point is

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we have to grow the economy, and in growing the economy,

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when people are earning more money and they have more

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money in their paycheck and they have more money to

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be able to spend, then the cost of things doesn't

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affect them so much. And that is the importance. I

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think of what's happening with the Big Beautiful Bill or

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the Working Family Tax Relief Plan. The families across the

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01:23:37.680 --> 01:23:41.039
country are going to have they're going to have a

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01:23:41.079 --> 01:23:45.960
better deduction next year with their taxes because of some

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01:23:46.159 --> 01:23:48.680
of the changes in that bill. There are not going

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to be there's no tax on tips, tips, there's no

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tax on overtime, there's no tax on or adjusted taxes

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01:23:54.640 --> 01:23:57.359
certainly on Social Security, and that's going to make a

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big difference, especially for the people where inflation when it

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01:24:02.520 --> 01:24:06.279
related to grocery prices really affects people the most. You

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have to have food, you have to have gas for

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01:24:08.319 --> 01:24:11.960
your car, you have to have fuel, and those higher

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01:24:12.000 --> 01:24:15.079
prices are difficult. But if you're getting more money because

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you're earning more or the taxes are benefiting you, then

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it doesn't hurt so much.

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Yeah, we're in a bit of a transition here. I mean,

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look what Trump's been able to accomplish in just nine months.

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I think the indications are is that we're moving in

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the right direction. But you know, the winning game the

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01:24:32.239 --> 01:24:35.920
super Bowl isn't tomorrow. You know it's going to you know,

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like you said, the big beautiful Bill, we probably really

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won't see the benefits of it really kicking in until

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probably second quarter next year. Now, when people are impatient

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and they wanted like yesterday, I get that. However, we

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can be encouraged because gosh, I went and bought eighteen

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eggs the other day for three bucks gasoline here in

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Florida is two sixty okay from the Biden years, which

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was creeping up close to four bus And in California,

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of course, it's outrageous because of Gaven Neusten and it

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will continue to be so. And these were all what

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exacerbated all these problems, including the Inflation Reduction Act that

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you refer to. These are all democratic policies. These were

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things that killed affordability. So now we've got to get

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that vacated and out of the system, because it's coming

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up the system, right, and it's going to take a

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little bit of time. But I don't see where socialism

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is the answer. Somebody coming in and saying, oh, I'm

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going to give you. You know you've got a problem,

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so I'm going to give you right now. I'm going

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01:25:32.000 --> 01:25:34.039
to give you free buses. And then look what's going

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on right now, Mom, Donnie's realizing that a lot of

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the free stuff he's set he can have. He's good.

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01:25:38.720 --> 01:25:40.640
He's coming up up because there's nothing in the bank

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to pay for the free stuff, right right.

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Well, I'm you're exactly right. Socialism doesn't work when the

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government gets involved. Usually the problem is is worse, not better.

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01:25:52.720 --> 01:25:54.800
There are a few exceptions. I think we have pretty

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01:25:55.039 --> 01:25:57.720
good a good road system in this country, and the

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government does that and they do a good job with that.

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But and we have a good military as well, So

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the proper functions of the government they do well. But

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01:26:06.399 --> 01:26:08.439
when they start getting involved in things it should be

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01:26:08.479 --> 01:26:12.039
left up to the free markets, it messes. It messes

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up the free markets, and it wreaks havoc on it.

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What you were just mentioning about gas prices being around

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to sixty in Florida. There are twenty eight states in

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01:26:22.359 --> 01:26:25.520
the country where gas prices are below three dollars a gallon,

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01:26:25.880 --> 01:26:30.199
and that is because of less government, not more government.

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01:26:30.319 --> 01:26:34.520
President Trump produced regulations and he freed up energy and

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01:26:35.159 --> 01:26:38.199
gas prices have come down because of that. It's not

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01:26:38.359 --> 01:26:42.960
more government, it was less government. In what Mandami or

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01:26:43.079 --> 01:26:45.600
may electic should give him his proper title the first

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01:26:45.600 --> 01:26:50.399
time I refer to a may elect Mandami and he

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and other Democrats are saying they want the government to

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01:26:53.439 --> 01:26:56.000
solve all the problems. And sometimes the best thing the

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01:26:56.039 --> 01:26:58.600
government can do is get out of the way and

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let the market work the way the market is intended

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to work.

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01:27:02.640 --> 01:27:06.680
But there's lots of pressure on affordability. And you mentioned

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government regulations huge, big time, and that is a constant problem.

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01:27:11.760 --> 01:27:14.239
But again, you've got to go back to what makes

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01:27:14.319 --> 01:27:16.800
the wheels on the bus go round and round. And

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01:27:16.840 --> 01:27:19.880
you got to watch see all this government regulation and

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01:27:19.920 --> 01:27:24.720
money is connected to the treasury of elected officials who

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01:27:24.800 --> 01:27:28.199
need to get re elected, so they're getting some big

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01:27:28.359 --> 01:27:31.239
off of this government spending. I mean, this is just

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so corrupt, and like you said, and very appropriately so

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01:27:35.640 --> 01:27:38.199
is when government stays in its proper lane, which the

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01:27:38.239 --> 01:27:41.079
founding fathers had laid out for us, it goes well

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01:27:41.079 --> 01:27:43.880
for us. But when they start thinking that they can engineer,

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01:27:44.000 --> 01:27:47.119
social engineer, whether it's healthcare, education, go down the line

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01:27:47.239 --> 01:27:49.479
in each one of these areas that they're involved in,

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01:27:49.760 --> 01:27:53.000
their problems. And affordability is an issue.

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01:27:53.880 --> 01:27:57.239
Yes, and it absolutely is an issue, and the issue

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01:27:57.439 --> 01:28:00.439
is largely created because of the government. Do you think

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that what we've seen from reporting from Target and and

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01:28:05.279 --> 01:28:11.079
other reporting about the cost of Thanksgiving meal, it's lower yeah?

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01:28:11.079 --> 01:28:14.359
Walmart, Yeah, walmartn.

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01:28:13.560 --> 01:28:16.880
Yes, Walmart, Target. I think they say it's the lowest

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01:28:17.199 --> 01:28:18.159
cost ever.

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01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:18.760
I don't remember.

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01:28:18.760 --> 01:28:20.960
I don't want to misquote it. But the in different

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01:28:21.000 --> 01:28:23.840
grocery stores are saying the same thing. And the prices

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01:28:23.840 --> 01:28:26.279
have come down since last year. I think a lot

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01:28:26.319 --> 01:28:28.880
of the reason the prices have come down is because

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01:28:28.920 --> 01:28:33.239
the cost of shipping those goods. Shipping grocery costs all less,

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01:28:33.439 --> 01:28:37.960
that's right. So that is where we're seeing things become

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01:28:38.000 --> 01:28:40.840
more affordable. Affordable and as they said at the beginning,

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01:28:41.079 --> 01:28:45.359
groceries and and utilities and especially gas for your car,

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01:28:45.560 --> 01:28:48.439
fuel for your car, those are just there. There are

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01:28:48.560 --> 01:28:53.760
fixed costs for families, and and as there's easing of that,

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01:28:54.079 --> 01:28:57.000
and as the bill continues to work, the law continues

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01:28:57.039 --> 01:28:59.520
to work, the one big beautiful Bill, and as we

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01:28:59.600 --> 01:29:03.880
continue to have more deregulation, I think that by this time,

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01:29:04.439 --> 01:29:07.960
well before this time next year, I think by July

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01:29:08.119 --> 01:29:10.560
of next year, the economy is going to be doing

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01:29:10.640 --> 01:29:14.680
much better and affordability may not be the topic that

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01:29:14.760 --> 01:29:15.479
it is today.

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01:29:15.840 --> 01:29:18.319
Yeah. Well, the big issue, you know, some of these

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01:29:18.359 --> 01:29:21.840
kids see that a great amount of dissatisfaction has been

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01:29:21.880 --> 01:29:25.640
created by the media is regarding housing. Yeah, well, well

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01:29:25.640 --> 01:29:28.720
that was all orchestrated by the Democrats. Okay, and you've

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01:29:28.760 --> 01:29:32.000
got to clear you got to get the pipeline opened

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01:29:32.039 --> 01:29:36.560
up a little bit. You know, when you have Black Rock, Vanguard,

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01:29:36.920 --> 01:29:43.199
State Street, these big funding mechanisms buying up housing. All right,

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01:29:43.239 --> 01:29:45.600
they saw what was coming up, so they bought a pizing.

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01:29:45.720 --> 01:29:48.840
So they've jacked up the rental costs like crazy. Joe

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01:29:48.880 --> 01:29:52.680
Biden's opens up the border. Fifteen million illegals come in.

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01:29:52.720 --> 01:29:55.640
Guess what they need housing? So this has put pressure

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01:29:55.720 --> 01:29:57.800
on the housing market, and you're not going to get

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01:29:57.920 --> 01:30:01.279
relieved or you can't build enough housing. Is that fast

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01:30:01.359 --> 01:30:03.960
to where you can make housing affordable? This is going

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01:30:03.960 --> 01:30:05.960
to be a process, and you just want to caution

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01:30:06.239 --> 01:30:08.600
our listeners that, look, it's just like you wake up

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01:30:08.640 --> 01:30:10.359
one day and you go, wow, and I've gained some

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01:30:10.399 --> 01:30:12.560
weight here. I got to do something about this. It

1572
01:30:12.600 --> 01:30:14.239
took you a while to gain that weight. It's going

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01:30:14.279 --> 01:30:15.840
to take you a while to get it off and

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01:30:15.880 --> 01:30:18.119
this same process. But you need to be encouraged because

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01:30:18.119 --> 01:30:20.840
of what Donald Trump is doing in this administration. We're

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01:30:20.880 --> 01:30:23.399
moving in the right direction in all things, and he's

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01:30:23.439 --> 01:30:27.199
looking at a total government approach. It's not just gasoline,

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01:30:27.520 --> 01:30:31.119
it's all these things. You know, it's tariffs, it's leveling

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01:30:31.119 --> 01:30:33.359
out the playing field economically, so we can do that.

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01:30:33.600 --> 01:30:36.039
But I don't know, Jenny Beth, I don't know of

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01:30:36.119 --> 01:30:40.399
any president, including Ronald Reagan, that was this focused in

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01:30:40.720 --> 01:30:45.840
this intent to really make a golden age for America

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01:30:45.880 --> 01:30:48.640
again so that everybody would make more money and be

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01:30:48.720 --> 01:30:50.760
more prosperous. We got about a minute left. I'll let

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01:30:50.800 --> 01:30:52.039
you have the rest of it. Go ahead.

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01:30:52.199 --> 01:30:54.520
Well, I want to see one thing about the housing costs. Well,

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01:30:54.520 --> 01:30:58.079
you're talking about it's very important. The supply, and the

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01:30:58.159 --> 01:31:02.279
demand got really messed up, partly during COVID and also

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01:31:02.439 --> 01:31:06.159
then with what because builders weren't building because things were

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01:31:06.199 --> 01:31:09.680
locked down, so that reduced the supply of brand new

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01:31:09.680 --> 01:31:15.119
houses into the market. Then you have the increase in demand.

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01:31:15.159 --> 01:31:17.960
So supply went down and demand went up, and that

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01:31:18.079 --> 01:31:21.439
means that prices are going to inevitably go up from that.

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01:31:21.720 --> 01:31:25.640
But build. There are reports now from DHS that between

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01:31:25.640 --> 01:31:29.279
one point five and almost two million people have voluntarily

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01:31:29.359 --> 01:31:32.560
self deported, so that will help a little bit as

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01:31:32.640 --> 01:31:36.039
it eases some of the strain from the illegal people

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01:31:36.079 --> 01:31:38.880
who've entered the country who are leaving the country or

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01:31:38.920 --> 01:31:41.960
being deported. And you're right, all of this is going

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01:31:42.000 --> 01:31:44.640
to take time, and it's frustrating because we are in

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01:31:44.680 --> 01:31:48.079
this instantaneous, we want it now now now society. We

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01:31:48.119 --> 01:31:51.439
want everything right this second. It's going to take time.

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01:31:51.840 --> 01:31:55.239
But I do think that if we allow the free

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01:31:55.319 --> 01:31:57.960
markets to work and allow the things that President Trump

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01:31:58.000 --> 01:32:01.960
is so focused on doing to work, we're going to

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01:32:02.000 --> 01:32:06.079
have a much better situation by July and August of

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01:32:06.199 --> 01:32:09.520
next year. And we just have to help explain to

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01:32:09.640 --> 01:32:12.479
our friends and our family why the prices are so

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01:32:12.600 --> 01:32:15.399
high and what is happening to help adjust it. And

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01:32:15.439 --> 01:32:19.159
you're right, President Trump is focused on a golden age

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01:32:19.399 --> 01:32:22.800
for America and I want to see that become a reality,

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01:32:22.840 --> 01:32:25.279
and I think most people do as well. There's no

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01:32:25.399 --> 01:32:27.880
reason we should be working against that. We should all

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01:32:27.880 --> 01:32:30.079
be trying to help make that a reality.

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01:32:30.640 --> 01:32:32.520
Well, and that's why, especially in the midterms, we've got

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01:32:32.560 --> 01:32:35.159
to send reinforcements to DC and help Donald Trump out.

1617
01:32:35.399 --> 01:32:38.239
He can't do this by himself, right, So we've got

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01:32:38.279 --> 01:32:40.640
to really build up the lead in the House and

1619
01:32:40.800 --> 01:32:43.760
hold on to the Senate, and you know, to get

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01:32:43.760 --> 01:32:46.199
these policies to get these laws passed so they're not

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01:32:47.000 --> 01:32:48.880
you know, we don't get another Joe Biden in and

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01:32:48.920 --> 01:32:50.600
in day one everything's reversed.

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01:32:50.680 --> 01:32:54.560
Right, That's right. We must hold on to the House.

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01:32:54.600 --> 01:32:56.640
But if we don't hold on to the House, they

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01:32:56.640 --> 01:32:59.840
will impeach President Trump again. And people should if you're

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01:32:59.840 --> 01:33:02.359
not motivated by anything else, you don't want to watch

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01:33:02.399 --> 01:33:05.399
the country go through yet another impeachment of President Trump.

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01:33:05.640 --> 01:33:08.520
Make sure you're doing all you can right now. Get

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01:33:08.560 --> 01:33:11.560
involved and start working on campaigns because we have to.

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01:33:11.479 --> 01:33:12.119
Hold the House.

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01:33:12.439 --> 01:33:14.279
Jenny Bath, where can they go for more information.

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Go to teapartypatriots dot org teapartypatriots dot org and you

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can find me in all the socials that Jenny bethm.

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I'm Bill Martinez. He is Jim rob the vice president

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of Operations for Numbers USA. Hey, good morning, Jim.

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How are you Bill? I'm fine. I'm stuck in traffic

1715
01:37:38.239 --> 01:37:41.079
but happy to talk while i am Well, you know,

1716
01:37:41.199 --> 01:37:42.239
that's the nature of DC.

1717
01:37:42.520 --> 01:37:42.720
Right.

1718
01:37:43.439 --> 01:37:46.840
Oh yeah, you know, I think we overtook Los Angeles

1719
01:37:46.880 --> 01:37:49.720
again this year as the worst traffic in Americas. So

1720
01:37:49.720 --> 01:37:51.520
I'm kind of proud of that in a perverse way.

1721
01:37:52.119 --> 01:37:54.520
Yeah, what was it a little bit better there? When

1722
01:37:54.520 --> 01:37:56.239
the government was shut down and I've got to get

1723
01:37:56.239 --> 01:37:58.319
to the office a little bit early. You get spoiled

1724
01:37:58.359 --> 01:37:59.800
for a little bit and go, oh, this is how

1725
01:37:59.840 --> 01:38:01.279
the roads are supposed to work.

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01:38:01.159 --> 01:38:03.920
Right, right, right right, you know, but it sort of

1727
01:38:03.960 --> 01:38:06.159
shows what happens when you keep stuffing more and more

1728
01:38:06.159 --> 01:38:09.239
and more people into a country with the same amount

1729
01:38:09.279 --> 01:38:12.399
of roads. You know, when numbers use USA was founded

1730
01:38:12.399 --> 01:38:17.279
twenty nine years ago, until today, we've added eighty million

1731
01:38:17.359 --> 01:38:22.119
more people to the US population. Eighty million. Yeah, yeah,

1732
01:38:22.199 --> 01:38:24.119
and several are in this in My neighbor is going

1733
01:38:24.159 --> 01:38:25.520
to say, are most there in DC?

1734
01:38:25.960 --> 01:38:30.359
Exactly? Probably feels that way in some days. Well, Jim,

1735
01:38:30.880 --> 01:38:33.359
you're You've got a news analysis that you're reporting on

1736
01:38:33.399 --> 01:38:36.279
from the Center for Immigration Studies, and it says it

1737
01:38:36.319 --> 01:38:40.199
demonstrates that mass immigration is a solution in search of

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01:38:40.239 --> 01:38:43.439
a problem. I think more it's a solution in search

1739
01:38:43.600 --> 01:38:45.800
of a of courage.

1740
01:38:46.039 --> 01:38:49.720
Yeah, well, you know, yeah, that's right, that's right, Bill,

1741
01:38:49.800 --> 01:38:52.640
And and uh just want to point up front that

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01:38:52.840 --> 01:38:57.840
only from our analysis, only twenty one members of Congress

1743
01:38:58.159 --> 01:39:04.319
are one solid solidly behind bringing immigration under control, not

1744
01:39:04.520 --> 01:39:09.960
just illegal immigration, everyone's for that, supposedly, but also bringing

1745
01:39:10.000 --> 01:39:13.760
the immigration numbers down a little where it's like Americans

1746
01:39:13.960 --> 01:39:17.000
who are working have room to breathe. Well, this is

1747
01:39:17.279 --> 01:39:21.159
Americans of all ethnicities, I always say, because remember that,

1748
01:39:21.319 --> 01:39:24.479
you know, the people who suffer the most from too

1749
01:39:24.640 --> 01:39:28.600
much immigration, too much new immigration, are immigrants who got

1750
01:39:28.600 --> 01:39:30.720
here legally last year.

1751
01:39:31.079 --> 01:39:34.159
Right exactly. And Jim, you know this this whole affordable

1752
01:39:34.239 --> 01:39:37.640
is affordability issue. I think the people have been misinformed

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01:39:37.680 --> 01:39:41.720
to understand that immigration, illegal immigration has had a great

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01:39:41.840 --> 01:39:46.039
impact on affordability, and probably much bigger than they realize,

1755
01:39:46.039 --> 01:39:49.239
because you know, we hear numbers. Oh you know, people say, well,

1756
01:39:49.239 --> 01:39:52.960
we got ten ten million came across illegally. Some say fifteen,

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01:39:53.000 --> 01:39:55.880
some say as many twenty. I mean, that's a big differential,

1758
01:39:55.920 --> 01:39:58.319
ten to twenty, even a ten million, that's a lot

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01:39:58.319 --> 01:39:58.800
of people.

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01:39:59.399 --> 01:40:02.640
Oh my god, Well, it's an amazing amount. And it's

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01:40:02.680 --> 01:40:06.159
on top of the problem we already had because even legally,

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01:40:06.239 --> 01:40:08.439
we were bringing in more than a million new people

1763
01:40:08.479 --> 01:40:11.399
a year. And let's just and and most of it

1764
01:40:11.520 --> 01:40:15.880
through extended family chain migration, which is not spouses and

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01:40:15.960 --> 01:40:21.119
minor children. We're talking about adult siblings, We're talking about grandma.

1766
01:40:21.159 --> 01:40:24.039
We're talking all these people. Well, the grandma is not

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01:40:24.079 --> 01:40:26.760
really a problem because she's not working. But all these

1768
01:40:26.920 --> 01:40:29.479
new young workers who come, but they don't particularly have

1769
01:40:29.560 --> 01:40:33.000
any skills in this you know, high tech economy, because

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01:40:33.000 --> 01:40:35.000
they come from places they don't have high tech, so

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01:40:35.479 --> 01:40:40.439
they're they're just competing with other people who come who

1772
01:40:40.479 --> 01:40:43.680
have come sometime in the past from Latin America, the

1773
01:40:43.720 --> 01:40:48.760
Caribbean islands uh uh, points in Asia so uh and

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01:40:48.800 --> 01:40:52.000
then all working Americans. So this is now this brings

1775
01:40:52.079 --> 01:40:54.640
us a back around to the Center for Immigration Studies

1776
01:40:55.000 --> 01:40:59.920
and their their new great report from their chief research

1777
01:41:00.079 --> 01:41:05.800
or Steve Camarata. So what it does is uses government numbers.

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01:41:05.880 --> 01:41:11.319
So these are all numbers from the government that that

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01:41:11.439 --> 01:41:20.039
he's analyzed. And so between nineteen sixty and the and

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01:41:20.079 --> 01:41:24.680
then today, the amount of men in our economy who

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01:41:24.680 --> 01:41:30.600
are of working age that is sixteen to six sixty four,

1782
01:41:30.800 --> 01:41:33.359
I think it is. And the amount of these men

1783
01:41:33.720 --> 01:41:39.640
who are not working has gone up, it's tripled. It

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01:41:39.840 --> 01:41:43.720
was like seven percent in nineteen sixty and now it's

1785
01:41:43.760 --> 01:41:48.199
twenty one percent. Of all these are men without without

1786
01:41:48.680 --> 01:41:53.239
college education. So it's like most Americans, but these are

1787
01:41:53.279 --> 01:41:57.399
these are working people who who don't have the fancy

1788
01:41:57.439 --> 01:42:00.479
office jobs. They have to work with their back. It's

1789
01:42:00.560 --> 01:42:04.600
hard work, right, And so who's getting pushed out? So

1790
01:42:04.920 --> 01:42:07.199
these are people, you know, a few of them were

1791
01:42:07.239 --> 01:42:12.039
probably you know, there's more welfare today, and they've they've

1792
01:42:12.079 --> 01:42:15.119
just sort of taken the easy road. But I think

1793
01:42:15.199 --> 01:42:18.319
most of them have been pushed out by so much

1794
01:42:18.439 --> 01:42:21.439
extra labor coming into the country all the time, and

1795
01:42:21.479 --> 01:42:23.319
with it, yeah, you don't have.

1796
01:42:23.279 --> 01:42:26.239
A fair chance to be successful, Jim. And then all

1797
01:42:26.239 --> 01:42:28.079
of a sudden, the people, like you said, they came

1798
01:42:28.079 --> 01:42:31.960
here legally, they're trying to you know, put their bootstraps

1799
01:42:32.000 --> 01:42:34.560
on and you know, kind of find the next level.

1800
01:42:34.840 --> 01:42:36.239
And then and then all of a sudden, you get

1801
01:42:36.239 --> 01:42:38.640
this wave that comes in that you know, puts them

1802
01:42:38.680 --> 01:42:41.960
back even behind where they started to begin with, you know,

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01:42:42.000 --> 01:42:45.560
several years earlier. And that's it's just not fair. Uh,

1804
01:42:46.520 --> 01:42:49.520
it really is almost immoral, Jim.

1805
01:42:49.079 --> 01:42:52.279
Right, I mean if if the government has any duty

1806
01:42:52.479 --> 01:42:56.319
to its citizens, it's to protect them from unfair conditions

1807
01:42:56.359 --> 01:43:00.319
coming in from overseas. That we don't have to have

1808
01:43:00.720 --> 01:43:04.800
more and more people when we have fewer fewer men

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01:43:05.199 --> 01:43:08.720
who are working. So it's like, it's like, why would

1810
01:43:09.520 --> 01:43:13.199
So the excuse is, oh, we can't find people for jobs. No,

1811
01:43:13.720 --> 01:43:17.119
the reality is always you can't. You can't find people

1812
01:43:17.119 --> 01:43:22.119
for jobs at wages that Americans can afford to accept,

1813
01:43:22.359 --> 01:43:27.359
because if welfare pays more than honest work, you're going

1814
01:43:27.399 --> 01:43:29.920
to have a problem. And it's not the normal guy

1815
01:43:29.960 --> 01:43:32.159
who gets pushed out of work. It's the guy who's

1816
01:43:32.159 --> 01:43:35.439
been working a lot of years with his back. Now

1817
01:43:35.479 --> 01:43:38.720
his back is bad, he's you know, he's it's it

1818
01:43:38.720 --> 01:43:41.720
would be a strain to keep working anyway. So he's

1819
01:43:41.760 --> 01:43:46.840
offered an option of taking you know, under wages and

1820
01:43:46.920 --> 01:43:51.439
hurting his back further, or getting on disability. So it's

1821
01:43:51.479 --> 01:43:53.720
the it's sort of a push me, pull me. We've

1822
01:43:53.720 --> 01:43:58.439
got too much social welfare and so that's rewarding people

1823
01:43:58.520 --> 01:44:01.640
a little bit for not working. They get sick, and

1824
01:44:01.800 --> 01:44:04.640
then we've got all these new people who come up

1825
01:44:05.079 --> 01:44:09.079
very poor and desperate, and they'll take any wage any

1826
01:44:09.119 --> 01:44:09.880
working condition.

1827
01:44:09.960 --> 01:44:12.520
Well, of course, yeah, exactly, they're working under the table.

1828
01:44:12.760 --> 01:44:14.760
And don't give me this deal about paying taxes and

1829
01:44:14.800 --> 01:44:16.840
all that kind of deal, because you know, you got

1830
01:44:16.840 --> 01:44:19.319
the black market. And I know at one point in

1831
01:44:19.319 --> 01:44:22.560
the Obama years it was estimated it probably consisted of

1832
01:44:22.560 --> 01:44:26.079
about eight million men in the labor force that were

1833
01:44:26.079 --> 01:44:28.960
working under the market. I think it exacerbated again, it

1834
01:44:29.039 --> 01:44:31.319
was probably a higher number. I never could get the

1835
01:44:31.399 --> 01:44:34.560
right number under Biden because Biden did the same thing.

1836
01:44:34.600 --> 01:44:37.079
You know, government press, and this was all It wasn't

1837
01:44:37.079 --> 01:44:39.680
their fault, you know, like you're saying, Jim, this was

1838
01:44:39.800 --> 01:44:45.760
really government interference, government regulation, government social engineering. And now

1839
01:44:45.800 --> 01:44:48.119
here it is you got all these press and now

1840
01:44:49.199 --> 01:44:51.920
you know, it becomes a sociological problem because we know

1841
01:44:52.039 --> 01:44:54.920
when people are working, they're happy. If they're not working

1842
01:44:55.159 --> 01:44:58.319
and they're not producing for their families, they're unhappy. Then

1843
01:44:58.399 --> 01:44:59.760
when they're unhappy.

1844
01:44:59.399 --> 01:45:00.399
That pride they make.

1845
01:45:01.199 --> 01:45:03.600
Yeah, that's when the drug decisions.

1846
01:45:03.720 --> 01:45:07.359
That's when the drugs start, right, and then then it

1847
01:45:07.439 --> 01:45:09.880
becomes more and then it's very very hard to ever

1848
01:45:09.960 --> 01:45:13.199
get them back into employment because I've got so many

1849
01:45:13.279 --> 01:45:14.920
problems now, So they.

1850
01:45:14.920 --> 01:45:16.760
Got so many problems, and they got so much government

1851
01:45:16.800 --> 01:45:20.039
support that's going to go there and wipe their noses

1852
01:45:20.119 --> 01:45:22.680
and wipe their other parts of their body and protect

1853
01:45:22.760 --> 01:45:26.319
them and and and coddle them. And I don't mean

1854
01:45:26.319 --> 01:45:30.760
this in an insincere or unsympathetic way. But what happens

1855
01:45:30.840 --> 01:45:33.159
is that you look at a government program. Jim, tell

1856
01:45:33.199 --> 01:45:35.560
me all the years and the trillions upon brillions of

1857
01:45:35.600 --> 01:45:38.880
dollars we've spent on welfare. Have you heard anybody coming

1858
01:45:38.920 --> 01:45:39.640
off of welfare?

1859
01:45:40.840 --> 01:45:44.199
It's very hard, actually I have, But it's very, very hard.

1860
01:45:44.199 --> 01:45:48.640
The minimum The temptation is so great, right, It's like,

1861
01:45:49.039 --> 01:45:51.119
you know, and you come up with excuses. I would

1862
01:45:51.159 --> 01:45:53.680
imagine it's like, oh, I got to stay home and

1863
01:45:53.720 --> 01:45:56.560
watch my kids, and this, that and the other. It's

1864
01:45:56.880 --> 01:46:00.600
so govern So how the market work? So I'm being

1865
01:46:00.640 --> 01:46:04.279
the employment market. Every market is. It's a combination of

1866
01:46:04.560 --> 01:46:09.159
incentives and disincentives, right, so to push me, pull me.

1867
01:46:09.439 --> 01:46:13.920
So the government provides both incentives and disincentives. It provides

1868
01:46:14.000 --> 01:46:17.760
disincentives to work when it's got someone always coming up

1869
01:46:17.800 --> 01:46:21.159
behind you, who who is younger, who's got a whose

1870
01:46:21.159 --> 01:46:24.880
back isn't ruined yet, will work much cheaper, will won't

1871
01:46:24.920 --> 01:46:29.960
ask questions. We won't won't ask pesky questions about work conditions.

1872
01:46:30.399 --> 01:46:33.239
And then there's the there's that that's a disincentive, and

1873
01:46:33.279 --> 01:46:37.359
then there's an incentive not to work because the government says, oh,

1874
01:46:37.479 --> 01:46:40.680
you know, your back's a little sore. U here have

1875
01:46:40.720 --> 01:46:43.520
a pension for life, right right?

1876
01:46:43.800 --> 01:46:47.119
Crazy, No, it totally is. And this is the thing. See,

1877
01:46:47.119 --> 01:46:49.439
government's not supposed to be doing that kind of stuff

1878
01:46:49.439 --> 01:46:52.640
because all they do is exacerbate the problem. You know,

1879
01:46:52.680 --> 01:46:55.079
as Ronald Reagan said, it's the closest thing to eternal

1880
01:46:55.119 --> 01:46:58.880
life is you know, a government. You know, a government,

1881
01:46:59.000 --> 01:47:01.640
you know operation bureaucracy.

1882
01:47:01.119 --> 01:47:03.840
Right, government program, any government program is like you know

1883
01:47:03.880 --> 01:47:07.960
they they and then you know the whole shutdown, right

1884
01:47:09.399 --> 01:47:12.199
one will more shot out to the shutdown. The whole

1885
01:47:12.239 --> 01:47:18.439
government shutdown was merely Democrats wanting to keep temporary covid

1886
01:47:18.520 --> 01:47:22.920
Era health subsidies going forever. You can't ever get rid

1887
01:47:22.960 --> 01:47:26.239
of anything. Mark Grekorian, my good friend at the Center

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of Immigration Studies, he says, there's nothing in the world

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more permanent than a temporary worker. And you know, once

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you bring someone into the country, the temporary help, I mean,

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it's like it is like sand blasting rock to ever

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get them to leave again. And why would they want

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to leave? For them, it's paradise. But if you're an American,

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as we always talk about Bill, you and I, Americans

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have no place to go. There's nobody who's going to

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accept an American like it doesn't you know, it's it

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doesn't matter that maybe maybe your your great grandma came

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from Venezuela. You think Venezuela is going to take you back.

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You've never lived there, it's not your country. Of course,

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they're not going to take you back. And even if

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you come here and you're a citizen there, they don't

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want you back. They want you out of there. They

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want you off of their payrolls. Right, So, and then

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you know, there's it's Americans can only bloom here. They

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have to bloom where they're planted. And so it's unfair

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when people can come in from around the world. Hundreds

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of millions want to come here. And what can Americans

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do if the government won't protect them.

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Who will Yeah, exactly, Well, again, this is what the

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Democrats are good at doing. They're good at at seeing

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the problem, they're just terrible at coming up with a solution.

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Well, it's always redistribution and right, and so they just

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don't they don't understand that if you want for people

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to work, you have to make it pay for them

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to work. And government shouldn't be in the business of

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subsidizing wages. What they should be doing, at least is

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to keep unfair foreign competition away, at least until America

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can absorb the workers we already have. But it's going

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the other way around.

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Yeah, you got it. Well, we got to leave it

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there to be continued, Jim Robb, Vice president of Operations

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for Numbers USA. Drive safely, my friend. Thank you so

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much for being with us.

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Take care always great Bye bye.

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