Nov. 18, 2025

The Bill Martinez Show 11 18 25

The Bill Martinez Show 11 18 25
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The Bill Martinez Show 11 18 25
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Are you ready, Yeah, okay, let's do it. Ill Martinez

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Live a program about current events, our culture, our values,

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our politics, and our future. And now Bill Martinez.

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Well, good morning and welcome. Six minutes after the copy,

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are Bill Martinez here? And you know it's been a

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minute since we've got a chance to talk. And you know,

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we got a lot of changes coming up on the show.

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I want to make you aware of coming very soon.

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We'll have an exclusive app in which you'll be able

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to you know, watch and listen to the show directly,

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and so stay tuned for the details and we hopefully

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we can roll it out. We'll be rolling it out

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in December for sure, maybe sooner. Maybe we'll test it

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even prior to, but you can look forward to it

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by December for it to be fully rolled out. So

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I'm excited about that. We're in the process of rebuilding

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our you know, our website and all our communication channels

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with you so that it'll be easier for you to

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interact and contact me. And you know some of you

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have been kind enough to you know, drop me an

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email and always great hearing from you and hearing your

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ideas because you know, this is why we do the show.

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I mean I started this, you know, behind this microphone

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with eighteen years ago when I got out of Bible College.

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You know, I'd been in radio for many years and

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was you know, a major market radio personality as they

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would say in Los Angeles, and was privileged to work

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with some great people and great radio stations in Los

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Angeles for many years. And then I went on to

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run radio stations and build sales teams and you know,

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just just have a lot of fun, I mean, broadcasting

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been bitty Betty good to Bill Martinez, and I've had

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the time of my life, as they would say. And

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eighteen years ago, when I graduated from Bible College, I

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felt like God was saying, hey, you needed to get

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behind the microphone again. And I thought my first thought was,

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you know, playing music, you know, doing those juvenile things

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I used to do. Of course, you know that was

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a clear misunderstanding on my part. What God, I felt

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ultimately and been working through in the last eighteen years,

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is he wanted me to focus on the truth. And

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it was a time, you know, when we were barely

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asking the question about the truth. It was still we

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were coming out of this idea that truth was relevant.

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You know, it's your truth, my truth, you know, and

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as soon as you do that, then you really don't

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have any truth at all. And there were some things

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that you know, came through that kind of confirmed this.

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You know. George Barnett, doctor George Barne, who has become

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a dear friend and a researcher in that that I

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met early on, had written a book and one of

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the things that he stated was that there was a

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you know, a dislocation and a disconnection that was taking place,

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particularly in the church when it came to the truth,

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and he put it under the umbrella of a biblical worldview.

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You know, what does that mean? It sounds so fancy,

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you know, biblical worldview? What is that mean? And what

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stood out for me in reading his book that was

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that it was a you know, probably about only fifty

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three percent of the pastors in the pulpit in America

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believed in a biblical worldview. And you go, okay, what's

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the biblical world views? I mean, I have to graduate

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from a particular college or you know, does it mean

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that you know, there's certain courses I need to fall under. No,

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it's just real basic. You know that you held a

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biblical worldview. You believed in what the Bible said, and

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you believed it was your responsibility to share that with others.

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And you know basic deal. You know that you believed

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in Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior. You believe

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that you should, you know, heed his commandments that take

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that gospel message, take that good news and share it,

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you know, to Jerusalem, Judeo, Samaria, the uttermost parts of

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the world. You know, that's your resp you you have

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this responsibility. I mean it's kind of like, you know,

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if you got a good tip on a on a

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on a stock purchase, for example, and you were making

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gazillions of dollars, would you not say anything anybody? Would

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you not call up your parents or you know, your

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family members, say hey, you know, I bought this stock.

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I got AOL stock. You remember in those days, I

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think was going for almost like I know, single digits

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or something was incredibly cheap, and people didn't say much

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about it. But then look at it today, but even

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still people saw that it was coming around the corner

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and it was something worth investing in. So those things

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you share with people gladly because it's good news, right,

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Well what better news when it comes to your salvation.

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And you know, because the general it's written in our

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hearts that we know that we're not perfect. We know

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we make mistakes, we know we're falling. And if you

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ask people, you know, hey, like my good friend Ray

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Comfort often asks, you know, do you ever think about

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when you die? Where you're going to go? There's a

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big question, and you'd be surprised how disarming that question

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is because no matter how hard hearted somebody may be,

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and they'll refuse to you know, and you know they'll

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play the game. You know, they got their own alter

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ego in person and deny Jesus and everything. But when

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you ask him, you know, are you concerned about when

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you die? What's going to happen to you? And if

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people are honest with themselves, And there's just something about

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that question that strikes to the very heart of most people,

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they'll go, you know, I've given it some thought, Well,

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do you want to have some assurance? Do you want

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to know that you know that when you die you're

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going to end up in the right place and not

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the wrong place? Well, you know, this is part of

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our experience in becoming a Christian, is that it is

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good news and that you know, eternity is settled for you. Otherwise,

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you know, it's kind of a bit of a crapshoot, right,

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you're just maybe hoping, you know, hoping that Jesus thing

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is really true, that you know, he really did, you know,

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it really was, you know, raised from the dead, and

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that he did come to forgive us of our sins

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so that we could end up where God always intended

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us to tend up, and that's with Him in heaven.

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And so part of the biblical worldview is that we

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believe that Jesus Christ is Lord. They came to save

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us from our sins, and that if we confess Jesus

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in our hearts, with our voices that he's King and

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that he's our savior, you know, will be saved from damnation,

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you know, and we don't want people to be damned,

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you know, whether it's you know, family friend, you know,

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family members or friends or anybody anybody for that matter,

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because you know, God says that all his creation is

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important to him, and as I think was C. S.

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Lewis had said that I'd never met a mere mortal.

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When you think about that, we're made in the image

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of God. I mean that's huge, right, that we're made

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in the image of God. It's like, you know, think

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about it, how precious that is. And this is something

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that you know, it's just become part of my my focus.

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Am I perfect in looking at others?

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You know?

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Yeah? I mean, hey, look at I make mistakes, and

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sometimes I get too critical and judgmental, especially on some

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of the topics that we talk about on the show.

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And so forgive me and believe me. I mean, oftentimes

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when I you know, things come out and they're emotive

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in such a way, trust me, I right away, almost

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right away. Sometimes quite often I'll feel like, oh, maybe

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I shouldn't have said that. I mean, after all, no

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matter who you know and what president or what government

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official you know that I have a problem or an

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issue with. You know, I need to be careful because

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you're walking on hallowed ground in a sense, because it's

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that person's reputation, and often we're so quick to be

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critical and judgmental of that person and very slow to

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pray for that person. Because the responsibility of anybody in

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leadership iss she was. I mean, the Bible tells us

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and the thing is is that God appoints these leaders

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you know to be in our lives, and we need

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to respect that because God is the one, you know,

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is his name declares his name Jehovah mckettish. He's the

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God who sanctifies, and what that means is he's the

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one who appoints this is and you know it's beyond

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our reason, I mean, because we look at it on

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this earthly plane and we think, you know, this can't

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be a god. I mean, this is demonic or whatever.

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You know. And but there are things to be learned

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and appreciated in terms of you know, leadership, followership, and

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you know that everything that's relevant to that. And so

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there's things that God perhaps is speaking through that leader

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that makes us feel uncomfortable, because we need to be

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uncomfortable because we're looking at things on an earthly plane

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as opposed to a heavenly plane. You know, I have

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often said that the answers that we want do not

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reside here on earth. They're in heaven. But if you're

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going to be so you know, grounded to Earth, you're

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going to miss out, and not only miss out, but

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be very frustrated because the answers you're looking for are

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not there. They're not here you know they're in heaven.

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So that's when you know, God says, look at if

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you lack wisdom, you want insight, you want understanding, you

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want knowledge. You know, come to me. You know that's

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where it lies. It doesn't lie in some political figure

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or maybe some professor in school. It lies with him. Anyway,

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we've got to go to quick break.

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Hey, we're back with you. I Phil Martinez and Glad

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you can join us in just kind of one on

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one kind of giving you an update on the show.

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And you know our philosophy and what it's all about.

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You know, some people, you know you are confused in

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understanding what a biblical worldview is all about. It's a

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matter of focus and perspective and how you choose to

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look at things. And a biblical worldview is that when

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you are discerning and looking out what's happening in any

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kind of environment, you know, it could be in your family,

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could be in your church. You know, what are the

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principles that are really controlling that perspective you're holding to

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what's in your heart. If it's the word of God,

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that's a great filter, because then you've got to measure

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up whatever it is that you are making a decision on,

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does it add or take away from what biblical principles

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have outlined for us? Because when you understand that God,

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in his generosity and his grace and mercy created this

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planet for us, you know, to enjoy. Unfortunately, because of

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sin that has entered this world, it's really corrupted this

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current environment which we live in. But yet we have

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to navigate in it. And God understood that, and by

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his grace mercy, he sent his son to come and

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redeem us so that you know, we'd have a way

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out and a way out to get back to Him.

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there will be a new heaven and new earth, you know,

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all this frustration will will vaporize. It will just go

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away where it needs to be. It doesn't need to

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be here amongst God's creation and his chosen people. And

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so a biblical worldview is pretty simple. But what's happened,

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you know, in the past eighteen years, as I mentioned,

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when I got out of Bible College and you know, said, okay,

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I got to look at things from a biblical world

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view and look to others and promote and support what

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doctor Barnet was talking about in terms of a biblical worldview. Really,

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not surprisingly but disappointingly, the idea of a biblical world

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view has been dissipating and less and less senior past

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in the pulpit today hold to a biblical world view.

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They have embraced the culture. They've been informed by the

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culture and been influenced by the culture. See. And this

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is the danger we run into, is that what is

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your standard? Is your standard God's Word or is it

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going to be the opinions of those on earth. As

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I said in the first segment, our answers are not

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here on earth, They're in Heaven. And so you know,

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you want to make sure whoever it is that you're following,

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you're connecting with, that you know they're in the Word

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of God, that their perspective is in the higher things

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and not the things of this world that are rusting away.

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You know, we have become, as my good friend Jeff

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Kemp says, we just become consumers. You know, we're like

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the pac Man, remember the pac Man, your brand, Aaron

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heating up things. And that's unfortunate because that makes us

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less of who we are, who we should be, and

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who we want to be. We don't even realize it,

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you know, we just kind of go through life and

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we're consumers like everybody else because that's what everybody else

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is doing, and we think we're kind of okay, you know,

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on a curve, you know, like God's going the greatest

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on a curve. No, it's not on a curve. It's

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really it really is black and white. You either are

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you're not, and this is where we're going to be,

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you know, disappointed when Jesus says to us, you know, hey,

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get away from me. I don't even know you, and

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you're gonna go, hey, lord man, Hey, I went to

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church on Sunday. I did this, I helped the poor.

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I did all these great things in my life because

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I don't even know you, you know, because we weren't really

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sold out for him, and it's tough to be sold

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out for him in this kind of environment. I mean,

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look what happened Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk was sold out

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for Jesus and it cost him his life. And it

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just is frustrating when I hear people talk of him.

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I didn't know Charlie directly, but I'll tell you a

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lot of what Charlie talked about I believed in, and

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I thought he was just very skillful and respectful. And

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this is what frustrates me when I hear people talk about,

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you know, how disrespectful he was. I didn't get that

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at all. I didn't get that he was disrespectful. You know,

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I believe, you know, kind of like what we said earlier,

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that he honored the creation. Each of us is God's creation.

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He honored the miracle of humanity. And you know, I,

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like Charlie, want the best for you. I want you

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to be the best version of yourself. And the best

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version of yourself isn't dictated by the Kardashians or some

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TikTok video or anything. No, the best version of yourself

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comes from God. You got to be listening to God

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because he's the one who has identified you. He is

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the one who, in your mother's womb was putting you together,

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the one who, the Word of God says, knows the

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beginning from the end. Okay, So what happens is God

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is He's designing you, is designing you in your mother's

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womb with the end in mind. All all the talents,

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all the giftings, your ability to leap tall buildings with

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a single bound, just go right on down. The list

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was all established and designed in you by the Creator.

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It wasn't like he just put us together and said, hey,

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you know, happytrayals. You know you're on your own. Huh.

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It's not the way God works. But see, if you

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don't study God and you don't understand, you're not going

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to understand. This is all going to sound foreign to you.

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But I would challenge you and encourage you to look

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to the Word of God and understand just how great

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God is, how awesome he is, how loving is And

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that's the thing. I mean. You got to know this.

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I mean this should be on your heart and your forehead,

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whatever you know. Put it on the mirror in your

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bathroom window, everywhere you go. This is this most important

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thing I can tell you. God loves you. Did you

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hear me? God loves you, the one who created all this,

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the creator of heaven and earth. Yes, he loves you.

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And you think, well, why would someone being so significant

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care about me? I don't know, it's hard to understand.

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I agree, I agree with you, but he does, and

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he's demonstrated that. I mean, can you imagine, I mean,

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would you, as a parent take your loving child and say, hey,

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go save these knuckleheads. They're mean, they cuss, they spit,

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they bite, they kill, they destroy. But I want you,

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I want you to go save these people. In fact,

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when in saving them, you're going to be subjected to

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the worst horror ever. I mean, you can't even imagine.

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You know, they are just gonna kill you and kill

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you and keep on killing you. But you need to

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do this. I mean, this is this is how much

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God loved us that he sent his son to go

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through the horrors of crucifixion. And you know, sometimes we

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don't want to talk about it, how horrific that whole

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process is. You know, we look in the cross and

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I was sharing this with a friend earlier today, that

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you look at the cross and you see Jesus kind

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of cleaned up version of Jesus hanging on the cross, right,

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But think about it. I mean, before him being you know,

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nailed to the cross, they beat the holy what have

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you out of him. They scourged him. They just and

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I mean these executioners and these people that could you know,

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render those whips in that they were so good at

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being able to. I mean, they would just tear off

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flesh and they you know, the Bible says that he

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was hardly recognizable as a human being. He was so

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beat up. But we look at the cross and we

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see him hanging there, it looks pretty clean. It's not

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really not the true version. I mean, he was hardly recognizable.

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They'd beat him up so much. In fact, you know,

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I was talking to Jim Cavizl when he had done

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After the Passion of the Christ, and he talked about

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some of the things that happened on set, and he

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shared with me, he said, Bill, he said, during the

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scourging scene, he had body armor on, right, and so

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they're beating him up, and they're doing this all through

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you know, movie making, and it all looks wonderful, he said,

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But one of the just one of the blows. One

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of the blows happened to mishit. The body armor got

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under it somehow, and that strike, he said, turned him

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inside out and the way he expressed it, and I

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can't do it justice, but it was to his very soul.

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I mean he could not. I mean, it hurt him

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so bad. I mean, he says Bill, He says, this

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was beyond excruciating, beyond any pain I'd ever undergone in

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my entire life. And I thought, for a moment, then

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you know that was one minor strap. Jesus, I don't know.

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I guess the tradition was you couldn't get forty last

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yet he went won less than forty. But I mean,

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forget it. I mean, they all but killed him. I

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think even Poncious Pilot one point said and try to

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kill him before you crucify him, because they beat him

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up so much. And he was thinking this, Jim cavizls thinking,

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my god, you know, and Jesus did almost forty of these,

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full blown no body armor, right, But this is how

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much God loves you. And that's what I want you

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to take away from this, is that, more than anything else,

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remember this, no matter what you're going through, no matter

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what's happening in the world of politics, and all this

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is all It's all a distraction. The main takeaway of

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all this Please hold this in your heart. God loves you.

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We got to go to break. We've got more after this,

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stay with us.

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Hey, welcome back Bill Martinez here. Great to have you

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with us. Also good to have my good friend doctor

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Michael Butler joining US public policy analyst, economics expert, and

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professor of finance at Stockton University in New Jersey. And

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I just the timing of this, Michael, I got to

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tell you, is just so wonderful for me, because all

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weekend long, I was, you know, just thinking about socialism,

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you know, because that's all we hear, you know, with

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mom Donnie, and now you know, the mayor elect for

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New York, and you know, more socialists coming out of

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the closet and you know, and all this stuff, and

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I'm looking at it and I'm going, you know, there's

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something about this, you know, we shouldn't throw the baby

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out with the bathwater. And what I came up to

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conclude here is that socialism may be half right, but

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only half right. And in that I mean that socialism,

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even like the Democratic Party, they understand the problem. You know,

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they see the problem. I should say they don't understand it,

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but they see the problem. But what they don't understand

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is how to fix it, right, And that's that's what

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came to mind, is that, Okay, you know, we used

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to say in business terms, you know, right observation rong conclusion,

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and to me, socialism is appropriate in that box. What

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do you think.

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I think you're right, they see the problem, they're reaching

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the wrong conclusion. So let's start from the very beginning.

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What exactly is the problem. Lower middle and lower income

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earners are having an affordability crisis. Now this wasn't a

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problem prior to COVID, but then after when we had COVID,

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the shutdown and fouled everything up. And then going into

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twenty twenty one, President Obama, president Biden rather president.

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Kind of like Obama, you know, he was the white Obama.

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Yeah, so President Biden over stimulated the economy by passing

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that massive stimulating stimulus package in the beginning of the year,

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and then towards the end of twenty twenty one, the

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Inflation or Reduction Act, which is an oxymoron. You can't

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reduce inflation by spending more money, and indeed it made

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inflation worse. So when Biden got into office, I keep

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saying Obama. When Biden got into office in January of

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twenty twenty one, the last inflation number was an annualized

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rate of one point four percent. A year and a

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half later, after his overstimulating the economy, and after the

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Federal Reserve, which for some strange reason kept interest rates

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near zero as inflation was climbing, so by June of

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twenty twenty two, inflation had reached nine percent. Now to

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fix that, the Federal Reserve said, we have to raise

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interest rates quickly and substantially, so over the next year

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they did that. It did bring the inflation rate down

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from nine percent down to three percent, but you brought

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the rate of increase down. They did not bring prices down,

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So now we're stuck with very high prices. Incomes didn't

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match that. And when prices go up more than your income,

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you end up not being able to buy the things

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you would normally buy, and that's a reduction and the

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standard of living. And even though they brought the rate

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down by July of twenty twenty three. It's kind of

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been stuck at the three percent range for the last

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two years. Fluctuated a little bit, but essentially stuck at

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that three percent range. So the rate of inflation's gone down,

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but prices are still going up by three percent a year.

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People's incomes are not quite going up by that much,

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so you're continuing to see a decline in the standard

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of living, which means people can't buy the things they

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used to buy. Now, somebody comes along and says, look,

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I know you're having trouble. You have to ride the

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subway every day. I'll make it so you don't have

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to pay for that. And you're having trouble with groceries.

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I'll have the government run the grocery stores, and the

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Mandami says, which is incorrect, but he says that we'll

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be able to keep grocery prices down. A lot of

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you are having trouble affording daycare. Daycare, especially in New

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York where he is, is very expensive and it takes

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up a big chunk of their earn. So I'll tell

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you what, We'll make daycare free too.

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Well.

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Suddenly that that's very appealing to people. I'm not being

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able to get by, can't even afford the basics. Now

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he's telling me I don't have to pay for the basics.

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I don't know I was going to do it. I

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don't always going to do but this sounds great to me.

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I'm voting for him. And that's what happened in New York.

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Right exactly. And and of course we know how this

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is going to end, but we still have it again

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going back to our original premise, is right observation wrong

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conclusion observation. Affordability is an issue, okay, But as you said,

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even with Trump's economic policies, things that are going on,

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you know, all the economist says, look at it's still

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you know, we've had some positive movement, but probably you're

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probably talking mid next year. And that's tough for people

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who grew up with microwaves and instantanteous satisfaction and all

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this sort of thing. You know, we want we want

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this fixed right away. But the fact of the matter is,

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like all things economical or anything in process, here is

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you've got to clear out the bad stuff. We're still

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carrying bad stuff, right. Our debt is only part of it.

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But all these things that Joe Biden had done to

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our government, immigration, healthcare. I mean, you know, which goes

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back to Obamacare, because that's been a big mess. I mean,

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here you are Obamacare even before COVID was on government subsidy.

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What of eighty percent.

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Eighty percent of the premium is paid by the taxpayers

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for people on Obamacare. Obamacare has been a massive failure.

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Obama promised lower premiums. I think premiums are up about

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eighty percent since he said that Obamacare promised better quality healthcare.

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And now since we're not sure which doctors we can

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go to or not, I'm not sure that that helped

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Obamacare promise we're going to cover everybody. Ninety percent of

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Americans had health and share insurance before Obamacare that they

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were reasonably happy with. They didn't like how much it costs,

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but they were reasonaly happy. After Obamacare that went up

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to ninety one percent. So he's helped only one percent

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of the population, not all the population.

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And for how many trillions of dollars, Michael, that we paid.

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For exactly numerous trillions of dollars. And then Obama said, listen,

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we're going to maintain the relationship you had with your doctor.

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I understand how important that is. Then it turned out

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your doctor wasn't part of the plan they end up

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being in and you lost relationships. Some people had ten

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twenty year relationships with their doctor that had to end.

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And the cost keeps going up and up. The insurance

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companies are making gobs of money from this. With the

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government involved in something as important as healthcare, it's likely

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to be a failure. I think. Look, the shutdown is over.

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The Republicans said they'll talk to the Democrats. That's about

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the health care care issue. But they're not going to

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sign an okay that we're going to spend one and

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a half trillion dollars over the next ten years. We

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have a deficit, we have a public debt, and we

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have to eliminate that. I believe what they are going

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to start to do is to examine the entire Obamacare,

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the Affordable Care Act system and try to come up

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with something new that makes sense. Trump has said, look,

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all these trillions we're spending. Instead of giving it to

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the insurance companies and them figure out who they cover

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and who they don't, let's just give it directly to

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the people. Let them buy the plan that is best

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for them. Take the government out of it. You'll improve efficiency,

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get the cost down, and get more people cover. So

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I think they're going to I hope at least they're

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going to attack this problem head on and say, let's

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look at the whole Affordable Care Act. It's a miserable failure.

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Let's come up with something new.

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Michael, Can we expect the people that screwed it up

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to fix it? I don't know. I mean, that's the deal,

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because see the problem is is this whole deal, even

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the thirty eight trillion dollars in debt, it's all a

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symbiotic relationship. You know, the debt is serving the ambitions

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of elected officials. You know, when you follow the money,

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you find out you know, thirty I mean, because the

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thing amazes me. I look back, and you know, we're

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talking about Nancy Pelosi, you know, in government what for

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forty years. When she came into government, we were about

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eighty two. We were I'm sorry, we were. I think

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it was in eighty two, That's what I meant. Eighty two,

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and we were about a little over two trillion in debt.

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She leaves forty years later, we're thirty eight trillion dollars

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in debt and Nancy Pelosi has earnings anywhere from one

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hundred and fifty to four hundred million dollars. What's wrong

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with this picture? Yeah?

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So members of Congress are not supposed to profit from legislation,

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and there's been back and forth talk about how to

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control that. I'm not sure they're able to do that.

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They're just wait, they're way too greedy again. I just

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think it's we're fighting an uphill battle here, Michael, that

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you almost need a king, you know, in a sense,

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to say stop. You guys are irresponsible. You can't do

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it anyway. We got to go to a quick break.

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Hey, welcome back Bill Martinez here with doctor Michael Butler,

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the public policy analyst and the economics expert. As we

758
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were saying, Michael, the government's fingers on healthcare, I just

759
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scares me. I mean they've We've given them how many

760
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years to provide a world class healthcare. They can't do it.

761
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They're incapable of doing it. You know, you've got to

762
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liberate that sector. What a fifth of our economy, a

763
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sixth of our economy. You have to liberate that, let

764
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it go across state lines, let the free markets handle it,

765
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and get government out of it. And it's going to

766
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be tough for some of these politicians because, man, if

767
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you follow the money and you see how much money

768
00:42:01.719 --> 00:42:04.599
out of healthcare has gone to serve, you know, re

769
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election campaigns of politicians. Boy, they're going to be in

770
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the fetal position, yelling and screaming.

771
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The only thing we have going for us For the

772
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first time in history other than when Trump was in

773
00:42:16.679 --> 00:42:19.400
his first term. We have a business person and not

774
00:42:19.559 --> 00:42:24.559
a politician in charge of this. He understands business. The

775
00:42:24.679 --> 00:42:30.559
problem when you have government running something is that it

776
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ends up costing more. Why so the pitch to the peoples. Look,

777
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with the grocery stores, if grocery prices are too high,

778
00:42:40.519 --> 00:42:43.280
let the government come in. Government doesn't have to make

779
00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:46.760
a profit, so we'll keep the profit down, eliminate the

780
00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:51.920
profit entirely rather, and the cost of everything should be cheaper.

781
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:57.400
Exactly the opposite happens. The government is not motivated by profit,

782
00:42:57.519 --> 00:43:01.519
that's true, but because of that incentive to reduce cost

783
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the fact costs go up a little bit, and you say,

784
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well it's going to give somebody a job, they'll let

785
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it go. So by not being motivated by profit, there's

786
00:43:10.559 --> 00:43:13.559
no incentive to reduce costs, and as a result of that,

787
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costs keep going up. And then with grocery stores, you

788
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get to the point where the government says we're going

789
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to sell it at this price, and the cost of

790
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it ends up going up above that price, and then

791
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people the manufacturers say we're not going to sell it

792
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tea and then end up with a shortage of products

793
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and empty shelves. Socialism, as Margaret Thatcher said, it only

794
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works until you run out of somebody else's money.

795
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I'm trying to do that.

796
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It doesn't work. And that's everything that the socialists are proposing.

797
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The bottom line is they want to take money away

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from people that have earned it and give it to

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people who, for whatever reason, haven't earned it. That simply

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can't work in the long run because people that aren't

801
00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:03.599
it and say, well, why should earn any more money?

802
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The government's going to take it. I'm not going to

803
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work any any harder. So that's why the economy tends

804
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tends to slow down. I said, well, wait a second,

805
00:44:12.039 --> 00:44:13.800
we can fix it. All we have to do is

806
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raise taxes on billionaires and here's how much we'll collect.

807
00:44:18.599 --> 00:44:24.840
That's also a policy that works exactly to the opposite.

808
00:44:24.920 --> 00:44:30.119
Why when you raise taxes on billionaires, they're still going

809
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to maintain their lifestyle. There are three things you do

810
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with your income. You pay taxes, then you either spend

811
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it or save it. So if you raise their taxes,

812
00:44:38.679 --> 00:44:43.400
they'll still maintain their lifestyle consumption, they'll reduce their savings.

813
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That reduces capital formation at a time where because the

814
00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:51.159
federal government's pulling thirty eight trillion dollars out of capital markets,

815
00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:55.440
we're already having a capital shortage, and we need more

816
00:44:55.519 --> 00:45:00.239
capital because all these manufacturing jobs that President Trump is

817
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:04.000
bringing back to the US, we can't compete with labor.

818
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They charge a dollar an hour. We charge twenty thirty

819
00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:09.800
dollars an hour. So the labor that the jobs are

820
00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:13.599
the actually rather that's coming back will all be capital

821
00:45:13.639 --> 00:45:19.079
intensive robots, artificial intelligence, automation that will enable us to

822
00:45:19.119 --> 00:45:23.559
produce the products as cheaply as the labor intensive overseas.

823
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The thing is, we need a lot of capital for that,

824
00:45:26.599 --> 00:45:30.119
so we have to create more capital, not do something

825
00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:34.719
that reduces capital formation, which taxing the wealthy will do well.

826
00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:38.119
How do we marry the two michael to where we

827
00:45:38.119 --> 00:45:42.280
we bring in automation and robotics, but not at the

828
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expense of humanity, and by that I mean the labor force.

829
00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:51.559
So there is a fear that artificial intelligence will eliminate

830
00:45:51.679 --> 00:45:54.119
a lot of jobs and we're going to have high unemployment.

831
00:45:54.639 --> 00:45:57.480
In the short term, you will see some of that,

832
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but in the long term, all of this artificial intelligence

833
00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:06.199
will make every worker more productive exactly, we end up

834
00:46:06.239 --> 00:46:10.480
with more output, more productivity, and at lower prices. A

835
00:46:10.519 --> 00:46:13.039
little bit of a shakeout period, but I think it

836
00:46:13.079 --> 00:46:16.280
won't happen rapidly. It'll sort of happen over time. And

837
00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:18.559
we've been through this before, exactly.

838
00:46:18.880 --> 00:46:20.679
I was going to say when we went from the

839
00:46:20.800 --> 00:46:25.000
under Underwood top writer, remember Manuel underwent, we went to

840
00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:28.800
the electronic typewriter. Oh, it's going to replace jobs, replaced job? No,

841
00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:34.320
it didn't, right, Yeah, If anything, it just exactly as

842
00:46:34.360 --> 00:46:38.400
you just said. It heightened the ability of the labor

843
00:46:38.840 --> 00:46:41.760
to uh to word process. And of course then we

844
00:46:41.800 --> 00:46:43.840
go into the computer, right, and that was supposed to

845
00:46:43.880 --> 00:46:45.280
replace exactly.

846
00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:48.519
I remember when I started working. You know in corporation,

847
00:46:48.639 --> 00:46:50.639
if you want something typed up, you wrote it, you

848
00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:53.480
went to a typing pool, they typed it and sent

849
00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:55.760
it back. You said, well, if you have personal computers,

850
00:46:55.800 --> 00:46:58.239
you're going to eliminate the typing pools. And you're right.

851
00:46:58.280 --> 00:47:01.800
We didn't make the typing pools, but it made everybody

852
00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:04.159
more efficient. If I want to write a memo, I

853
00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:06.199
don't have to write it, send it, wait a day

854
00:47:06.280 --> 00:47:08.000
or two fourth to come back. I write or write

855
00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:10.800
on my computer myself and send it right out, so

856
00:47:11.079 --> 00:47:15.639
it becomes much more efficient. A little bit of transition

857
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:19.440
in the beginning, but eventually it makes everybody much more efficient.

858
00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:22.880
This artificial intelligence is going to raise the standard of

859
00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:28.920
living for everybody worldwide relatively short time, Perer, we should

860
00:47:28.960 --> 00:47:32.039
be encouraging this, not worrying about who's going to lose

861
00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:33.000
their jobs.

862
00:47:33.280 --> 00:47:36.559
Well, the thing is that I'm most concerned about. And

863
00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:39.159
this is what happens because when you go back in history,

864
00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:42.599
just as we just cited a couple of examples, the

865
00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:46.239
government can't help itself. It wants to regulate and it

866
00:47:46.360 --> 00:47:50.079
MUCKs up the gears and the mechanisms. Right, We've got

867
00:47:50.119 --> 00:47:53.840
to allow because the genius of humanity. I mean, you know,

868
00:47:53.880 --> 00:47:57.360
when you think of our constitution, you know our founder said, hey,

869
00:47:57.360 --> 00:48:00.840
we're going to do something different here. No kings, you know,

870
00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:04.920
no zars. We're going to allow the people. We the

871
00:48:04.960 --> 00:48:09.000
people to be the bosses of themselves. Right. And when

872
00:48:09.039 --> 00:48:13.440
that happens, whenever that critical component occurs and the free

873
00:48:13.519 --> 00:48:18.960
markets operate, it's amazing. It's almost miraculous how the development occurs. Right.

874
00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:22.199
Yeah, we have to educate the people a little more

875
00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:26.000
to they say, look, there's terrible incoming equality. Somebody's making

876
00:48:26.079 --> 00:48:28.800
this and we're all making this. The thing is, if

877
00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:30.679
there is that big gap and you're worried about it,

878
00:48:30.760 --> 00:48:32.719
you don't want to pull the bottom down. You want

879
00:48:32.760 --> 00:48:34.880
to bring the You want to pull the top down round.

880
00:48:34.920 --> 00:48:37.960
You want to bring the bottom up. That's done by

881
00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:41.599
educating people and have them understand. You're paid according to

882
00:48:41.639 --> 00:48:45.320
your contribution to the economy. So if you're not contributing much,

883
00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:49.159
you're not going to get paid much. So if that's

884
00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:51.519
the case, you need to figure out how to increase

885
00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:55.559
your contribution, either through education or learning a trade or

886
00:48:55.599 --> 00:48:58.719
something where you can contribute to the economy. And the

887
00:48:58.760 --> 00:49:03.079
system works perfectly. Elon musk Tesla just said, we're going

888
00:49:03.159 --> 00:49:06.719
to pay you over ten years a trillion dollars. Everybody's

889
00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:08.440
up in arms and how can he do that? And

890
00:49:08.400 --> 00:49:10.880
then coming to call, what does he have to do

891
00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:12.599
to get that? He's got to have a million of

892
00:49:12.639 --> 00:49:16.039
these Rowbot taxis and this has it will increase the

893
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:21.239
wealth of the stockholders from one point five uh trillion

894
00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:24.880
up up to eight point five trillion. So he's increasing

895
00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:28.360
the stockholder's wealth by seven trillion if he does that,

896
00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:30.800
they'll give him one of those seven trillion.

897
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:31.440
Why why not?

898
00:49:32.119 --> 00:49:36.239
Exactly? Yeah, who else is coming into the boardroom and saying, hey,

899
00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:38.239
look at I'm going to give you seven eight trillion

900
00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:40.760
dollars worth of growth here, and you're not going to

901
00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:43.360
reward that, you know, And to me, it's almost like

902
00:49:43.400 --> 00:49:45.039
what you're talking about, And this is why I love

903
00:49:45.079 --> 00:49:48.880
about sports. Right, you know, you get somebody Michael Jordan

904
00:49:49.000 --> 00:49:51.559
or you know whoever. But let's just talk in terms

905
00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:53.480
of Michael Jordan. All of a sudden, he's getting paid

906
00:49:53.480 --> 00:49:56.239
the gazillion dollars. Well, guess what everybody else on the

907
00:49:56.239 --> 00:49:59.679
team goes, Hey, that's the new ceiling. I mean, if

908
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:03.159
if the people are willing to pay those kind of dollars, well,

909
00:50:03.159 --> 00:50:06.079
then why not me? How come I can't get my share? Well,

910
00:50:06.119 --> 00:50:09.400
if I want my share of that, you know, that

911
00:50:09.519 --> 00:50:12.480
kind of universe and that kind of available money, then

912
00:50:12.559 --> 00:50:16.079
I need to increase my value because they've already demonstrated

913
00:50:16.079 --> 00:50:18.079
they're willing to pay it if you produce.

914
00:50:18.199 --> 00:50:22.320
Right, Exactly, if you're an athlete in any sport, just

915
00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:26.519
increase the contribution that you make. If you're a baseball player,

916
00:50:26.599 --> 00:50:30.320
hit more home runs, driving more runs. That gets the

917
00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:33.360
team more people to come out, they get into the playoffs,

918
00:50:33.400 --> 00:50:36.280
they get into the World Series. That's worth millions to them.

919
00:50:36.679 --> 00:50:38.920
So if you're the player that can push them over

920
00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:41.400
the top, they're going to pay it for that.

921
00:50:42.239 --> 00:50:44.880
Well, speaking of base speaking of baseball, because you brought

922
00:50:44.880 --> 00:50:47.360
it up the difference, and there was this analysis that

923
00:50:47.480 --> 00:50:51.199
was done the difference between a baseball player offensive player.

924
00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:54.280
Not talking about pitcher here, but an offensive player. The

925
00:50:54.400 --> 00:50:57.880
difference is five percent. And that five percent this is

926
00:50:57.920 --> 00:50:59.880
somebody who gets you know, they still get paid millions,

927
00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:03.559
but I mean you start getting paid mega millions of dollars.

928
00:51:03.760 --> 00:51:07.039
There's only a five percent difference in performance. And you

929
00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:09.880
know what that five percent he quates to Michael one

930
00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:11.679
more hit in twenty at bats.

931
00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:15.480
And if you do that, that will help your team

932
00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:18.280
push your team into the playoffs and the World Series,

933
00:51:18.480 --> 00:51:21.400
and you're worth a lot more. I'm from Philadelphia originally,

934
00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:24.719
so I watched the Phillies. The Phillies always do well,

935
00:51:24.960 --> 00:51:27.679
not in the postseason, but always do well during the

936
00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:30.639
regular season. So now they have some of their players

937
00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:34.239
coming up for free agency. The Kyle Schwerber, it's more

938
00:51:34.280 --> 00:51:37.280
home runs than anybody and he's the one that carried

939
00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:41.199
the Phillies to the championship, so he's worth a lot.

940
00:51:41.400 --> 00:51:44.199
He's going to end up getting paid a lot. The

941
00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:48.639
players that don't contribute much and you know, are not

942
00:51:48.760 --> 00:51:51.159
that much of a help to the team, they're going

943
00:51:51.239 --> 00:51:54.480
to get much lower salaries. It's exactly the way that

944
00:51:54.639 --> 00:51:58.239
marketplace works. If you're not able to pay for the

945
00:51:58.280 --> 00:52:01.079
things you want, it's because you're not earning enough money.

946
00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:03.079
And if you're not earning enough money, you have to

947
00:52:03.119 --> 00:52:06.599
figure out how to contribute more to the economy so

948
00:52:06.639 --> 00:52:08.280
you'll get you'll get more out.

949
00:52:09.400 --> 00:52:12.320
Well, I'll tell you again, in light of what's going

950
00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:15.440
on with socialism, and we just gave everybody just a

951
00:52:15.639 --> 00:52:19.800
basic marketing understanding of what makes the world go around

952
00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:23.639
and how you can by determining to add value. Now,

953
00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:26.440
if you're somebody who's sitting on the sidelines, which you know,

954
00:52:26.480 --> 00:52:29.159
guess what we did that. You know, when this country

955
00:52:29.159 --> 00:52:31.679
first started, the pilgrims came across Michael, as you remember,

956
00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:33.840
and half of them on the boat said, hey, we

957
00:52:33.840 --> 00:52:35.639
don't don't we don't need to work. We'll let the

958
00:52:35.639 --> 00:52:38.079
other half handle. And then they figured out after a

959
00:52:38.159 --> 00:52:39.840
year ago. This doesn't work. So we're going to give

960
00:52:39.840 --> 00:52:42.159
everybody a plot of land, and if you don't work,

961
00:52:42.159 --> 00:52:44.960
you don't eat. It's on you, right exactly.

962
00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:48.239
That's and that's exactly the way the system is supposed

963
00:52:48.280 --> 00:52:52.079
to work. And if look, if somebody is mentally or

964
00:52:52.119 --> 00:52:54.679
physically not able to work, that's one thing. We have

965
00:52:54.719 --> 00:52:57.559
a responsibility to those people. But if you're mentally and

966
00:52:57.599 --> 00:53:01.760
physically able body to work, figure out how to contribute

967
00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:05.079
something to the system. The problem is that the democrats

968
00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:08.440
view is, well, if you're not earning enough to get by,

969
00:53:09.239 --> 00:53:11.199
we're going to give you more money, and we get

970
00:53:11.239 --> 00:53:14.239
it by taking it away from people that have earned it.

971
00:53:14.480 --> 00:53:18.119
That's a terrible thing to do. It creates two problems. One,

972
00:53:18.199 --> 00:53:21.760
the person getting the money becomes dependent on you, in

973
00:53:21.760 --> 00:53:25.360
some cases for generations, exactly the first problem. The second

974
00:53:25.400 --> 00:53:27.719
problem is the guy who's earning money has to take

975
00:53:27.760 --> 00:53:29.599
care of his own family, plus he's got to take

976
00:53:29.599 --> 00:53:33.239
care of all these other people. That system cannot work

977
00:53:33.320 --> 00:53:36.960
in the long run. Americans are very compassionate. If anybody

978
00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:40.000
is having a problem, Americans would like to help them.

979
00:53:40.199 --> 00:53:44.400
But when you abuse that kindness and that compassion, that's

980
00:53:44.440 --> 00:53:47.639
where the problems are come in. The Democrats have got

981
00:53:47.679 --> 00:53:49.800
to change their way of thinking, although it looks like

982
00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:53.000
they're going more to the left rather than more to

983
00:53:53.079 --> 00:53:53.559
the center.

984
00:53:54.000 --> 00:53:57.119
Well, sometimes you have to get lost enough to eventually

985
00:53:57.199 --> 00:53:59.320
find your way, and that's maybe what's going to happen

986
00:53:59.320 --> 00:54:01.599
to the Democrat it seems to be. Anyway, we got

987
00:54:01.639 --> 00:54:03.599
to leave it there, and no doubt we'll have to

988
00:54:03.639 --> 00:54:06.119
pick it up from there the next time we get together,

989
00:54:06.199 --> 00:54:10.039
Doctor Butler. So appreciate you. Doctor Michael Butler, public policy analyst,

990
00:54:10.079 --> 00:54:13.320
economics expert, and professor of finance at Stockton University in

991
00:54:13.360 --> 00:54:16.239
New Jersey. Thank you, Michael, Take care, Thank you Bill.

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Getting America back on track. Bill Martinez Live, Well.

1013
00:55:29.719 --> 00:55:31.880
Good morning, welcome six minutes after the top of the hour.

1014
00:55:31.960 --> 00:55:35.199
Right now, I'm Bill Martinez. Seized Adam Hardings. It's great

1015
00:55:35.239 --> 00:55:37.320
to have him back with us. We're going to talk

1016
00:55:37.320 --> 00:55:42.440
about you know, J six and what's being exposed here

1017
00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:47.239
with a now government official or you know, involved with

1018
00:55:47.360 --> 00:55:51.039
the planting of a bomb at the DNC and the

1019
00:55:51.159 --> 00:55:55.119
RNC headquarters there in DC. Adam is a former clandestine

1020
00:55:55.159 --> 00:55:58.960
government operative who's exploits and pedigree are the stuff of legend.

1021
00:55:59.360 --> 00:56:02.400
After four wars and six employments, he came home with

1022
00:56:02.440 --> 00:56:04.679
the intent to live in peace, grow the new health

1023
00:56:04.679 --> 00:56:08.000
and wellness business. Equated and raised his children in a

1024
00:56:08.079 --> 00:56:11.840
quiet countryside. So much for plans.

1025
00:56:11.519 --> 00:56:15.239
Right now, we make plans and God laughs, right.

1026
00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:18.320
Yes he does, yes, But hey, look at for your

1027
00:56:18.360 --> 00:56:21.239
background and all that's happening. I mean, and I want

1028
00:56:21.280 --> 00:56:23.840
to talk about the health and wellness aspect of your

1029
00:56:23.880 --> 00:56:26.880
business as well. But right now a lot of controversy

1030
00:56:26.920 --> 00:56:33.000
and conspiracy really heightening over this exposure of this j

1031
00:56:33.199 --> 00:56:35.199
six operative. Tell our audience about that.

1032
00:56:35.920 --> 00:56:39.239
Yeah, well, I mean, I don't have any further information

1033
00:56:39.320 --> 00:56:41.800
that I think most people are speculating on these days.

1034
00:56:41.800 --> 00:56:45.760
But given I was there on January sixth, not in

1035
00:56:45.920 --> 00:56:48.679
any kind of official capacity, I was there. I was

1036
00:56:48.719 --> 00:56:51.280
not a government employee anymore, and I was there with

1037
00:56:51.320 --> 00:56:54.599
my wife and friends, and we were there to be

1038
00:56:54.719 --> 00:56:58.800
part of what was very much a peaceful, patriotic day,

1039
00:56:59.119 --> 00:57:01.800
you know, I meant the kids and strollers getting pushed

1040
00:57:01.800 --> 00:57:05.039
from the obelisk down to the Capitol building and not

1041
00:57:05.159 --> 00:57:08.199
at all what the media portrayed. But one thing that

1042
00:57:08.280 --> 00:57:12.280
was clear then and obviously came out years later, was

1043
00:57:12.519 --> 00:57:15.840
that there was paid agitators within the crowd, that there

1044
00:57:15.880 --> 00:57:19.400
were that there were you know, crisis actors, if you will.

1045
00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:22.199
At the time none of us. I don't think even

1046
00:57:22.360 --> 00:57:26.199
thought that it would have been FEDS. But now according

1047
00:57:26.199 --> 00:57:28.079
to the Fed Zone admissions that you know, there's two

1048
00:57:28.119 --> 00:57:31.320
hundred and fifty something FBI agents and playing clothes. It's

1049
00:57:31.960 --> 00:57:33.920
I mean, I think it's just a travesty of justice.

1050
00:57:33.960 --> 00:57:37.320
I think it's unconstitutional. I think it's against you know,

1051
00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:40.400
America's civil liberties and civil rights and you know, which

1052
00:57:40.440 --> 00:57:43.119
are shrined in the Constitution in the First and fourth Amendments.

1053
00:57:43.639 --> 00:57:47.920
And I mean, I'm just really kind of disgusted with

1054
00:57:47.920 --> 00:57:51.039
with the way that our government has acted. And I

1055
00:57:51.039 --> 00:57:53.360
should say I mean our government, because it seems to

1056
00:57:53.400 --> 00:57:56.199
be actually both sides. And I am I was a

1057
00:57:56.239 --> 00:58:01.639
politically right leaning, staunch conservative, Maga Republican, you know, my

1058
00:58:01.760 --> 00:58:04.880
whole life, right, But now you know, as I'm just

1059
00:58:04.920 --> 00:58:07.559
sitting there, seeing we got the new guys in town

1060
00:58:08.159 --> 00:58:11.239
and and you know, Cash and Bongino won't even go

1061
00:58:11.360 --> 00:58:13.880
after you know, the Epstein client list. So I'm like,

1062
00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:16.800
how do we how do we how do we get

1063
00:58:16.840 --> 00:58:19.800
to the bottom of anything? How do we actually you know,

1064
00:58:19.920 --> 00:58:22.119
figure out some truth here? And you know, you've got

1065
00:58:22.119 --> 00:58:24.679
the pipe bomber, and I think that at the at

1066
00:58:24.679 --> 00:58:28.480
the at the simplest, there's only two options when it

1067
00:58:28.519 --> 00:58:32.400
comes to that pipe bomber. Obviously, it looks like she

1068
00:58:32.599 --> 00:58:35.360
was a Capitol Police officer. I've heard the rumors about

1069
00:58:35.360 --> 00:58:37.800
a potential tie to the agency. I'm not sure if

1070
00:58:37.800 --> 00:58:41.039
that's the case, you know, because once these stories start spinning,

1071
00:58:41.480 --> 00:58:43.920
you know, it's somebody adds on a thing and adds

1072
00:58:43.960 --> 00:58:45.239
on a thing, and who knows by the end of

1073
00:58:45.239 --> 00:58:47.800
the day what the truth is. But assuming that this

1074
00:58:47.880 --> 00:58:52.440
individual really was the pipe bomber, there's only two plausible explanations,

1075
00:58:52.519 --> 00:58:55.920
and it's one that there was an ideological motive, which

1076
00:58:56.079 --> 00:58:58.519
kind of you kind of almost have to toss that

1077
00:58:58.599 --> 00:59:01.000
one out the window because because why would you be

1078
00:59:01.039 --> 00:59:04.360
bombing both the DNC and the RNC unless you're just

1079
00:59:04.400 --> 00:59:07.159
an anarchist and you hate all America and you just

1080
00:59:07.239 --> 00:59:10.719
want down with America. Okay, fine, maybe I'll buy that.

1081
00:59:11.199 --> 00:59:13.920
But now we're back to like, you know, cocaine theories

1082
00:59:13.960 --> 00:59:15.519
on whose is it in the White House?

1083
00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:16.519
You know, so exactly.

1084
00:59:16.599 --> 00:59:19.519
You know, it's all kind of silly, and I think

1085
00:59:19.800 --> 00:59:24.960
the government tries to tries to obfuscate, confuse, deny, make

1086
00:59:25.039 --> 00:59:28.559
counter accusations, you know, change the narrative, all in the

1087
00:59:28.639 --> 00:59:32.599
name of control. And so the most the most plausible

1088
00:59:32.639 --> 00:59:36.239
explanation of my mind was that some office somewhere in

1089
00:59:36.320 --> 00:59:40.119
the deep state, in the swamp, whether it was CIAT,

1090
00:59:40.159 --> 00:59:44.280
BID OJ, DHS, I mean, who knows, Secret Service, It

1091
00:59:44.280 --> 00:59:49.639
could have been any one of these perm bureaucrat organizations

1092
00:59:49.679 --> 00:59:53.480
that may have directed or and I would not be

1093
00:59:53.559 --> 00:59:55.880
surprised if those bombs weren't even real, if it was

1094
00:59:55.920 --> 00:59:59.800
literally just inert it was just designed to push a narrative.

1095
01:00:00.159 --> 01:00:02.239
Yeah, that was my question as well, was it was

1096
01:00:02.239 --> 01:00:03.800
it a real bomb or just yeah?

1097
01:00:03.880 --> 01:00:08.199
Right, Most most of these things are designed as just

1098
01:00:08.239 --> 01:00:10.719
to push a narrative. That's it. You know, they want

1099
01:00:10.719 --> 01:00:12.960
to control the new cycle, whether it's twenty four or

1100
01:00:13.000 --> 01:00:16.840
forty eight, thirty six hours, you know, until there's a

1101
01:00:16.880 --> 01:00:18.800
new thing that they can that they can you know,

1102
01:00:18.880 --> 01:00:20.920
dangle in front of you in a new shiny penny

1103
01:00:21.039 --> 01:00:24.519
and distract you with that. But I mean, I I frankly,

1104
01:00:24.559 --> 01:00:29.719
I've given up politics, and I've given up aligning with

1105
01:00:29.840 --> 01:00:33.159
a particular party because I'm just I'm a maga guy

1106
01:00:33.239 --> 01:00:36.760
through and through. But I just don't even have a

1107
01:00:36.800 --> 01:00:39.679
lot of faith in any side of our political leadership

1108
01:00:39.679 --> 01:00:42.480
at this point. And you know, it's interesting. John Adams said,

1109
01:00:42.800 --> 01:00:45.519
you know, the Constitution is only fit for a moral people,

1110
01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:48.599
you know, you god fearing people, and I and I

1111
01:00:48.639 --> 01:00:51.760
think as a country, that's frankly the most important thing

1112
01:00:51.840 --> 01:00:54.119
for us, especially as we go into this world, into

1113
01:00:54.119 --> 01:00:58.079
this future that's driven by algorithms and reality and disinformation

1114
01:00:58.599 --> 01:01:01.760
and truth can be changed in an instant before you

1115
01:01:01.800 --> 01:01:05.199
can even scroll on your Instagram feed. So so that's

1116
01:01:05.199 --> 01:01:08.239
that's exactly why I wrote this thing, the Alpha Blueprint,

1117
01:01:09.199 --> 01:01:11.639
and it was it's a guide to prepare the next

1118
01:01:11.679 --> 01:01:14.119
generation for how to live and discern truth in a

1119
01:01:14.159 --> 01:01:17.719
world driven by AI. And so yeah, that's that's where

1120
01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:18.760
we are sad.

1121
01:01:19.639 --> 01:01:25.719
Well, well, when we got knocking knocked off our understanding

1122
01:01:25.719 --> 01:01:28.920
of what truth was, the truth became relevant, you know,

1123
01:01:29.000 --> 01:01:32.199
your truth, my truth, and somehow that was okay in

1124
01:01:32.239 --> 01:01:35.719
this compliant world. I mean that was hugely dangerous because

1125
01:01:36.119 --> 01:01:40.119
the truth matters. It is fundamental to our integrity, you know.

1126
01:01:40.199 --> 01:01:43.559
Speaking of our founding fathers, it was also George Washington

1127
01:01:43.559 --> 01:01:47.280
who warned us about partisanship, about setting up parties, and

1128
01:01:47.920 --> 01:01:50.440
like you, I see myself as a mega guy I

1129
01:01:50.559 --> 01:01:54.119
like MAGA inasmuch as that it's not a party specific

1130
01:01:54.519 --> 01:01:57.880
make America great again. What American doesn't want to make

1131
01:01:57.920 --> 01:01:59.480
America writ again? Right?

1132
01:02:00.760 --> 01:02:03.679
It's it's it's really crazy to me when it's like,

1133
01:02:04.199 --> 01:02:06.559
you know, you've got on the one side, you've got

1134
01:02:06.559 --> 01:02:08.119
a group of people that are like, hey man, we

1135
01:02:08.239 --> 01:02:11.119
believe in the whole, this whole notion of like freedom

1136
01:02:11.719 --> 01:02:17.000
and the Constitution, and that America should come first in

1137
01:02:17.119 --> 01:02:21.719
America's policies, right, and that Americans taxpayer dollars should be

1138
01:02:21.800 --> 01:02:26.320
spent on things that benefit Americans, not things that benefit foreigners,

1139
01:02:26.360 --> 01:02:29.599
whether illegal not illegal, or whatever else. So I mean,

1140
01:02:29.760 --> 01:02:33.280
enough of the endless wars, enough of you know. And

1141
01:02:33.639 --> 01:02:37.400
it's just it's so disheartening having been to four different

1142
01:02:37.400 --> 01:02:40.599
wars and giving the twenty best years of my life

1143
01:02:40.599 --> 01:02:43.159
to this country to then find out that, you know,

1144
01:02:44.079 --> 01:02:46.400
a lot of it was built around a lie and

1145
01:02:46.639 --> 01:02:51.679
just in some political bureaucrats desire for control and to

1146
01:02:51.800 --> 01:02:54.440
control the narrative. It's just it's just awful. So I

1147
01:02:54.480 --> 01:02:57.280
looked around and I was like, I have a ten

1148
01:02:57.360 --> 01:03:00.320
year old daughter and a seven year old son, and

1149
01:03:00.360 --> 01:03:02.840
now we live in a world where everything is a

1150
01:03:02.880 --> 01:03:04.639
lie built on top of a lie, and you can't

1151
01:03:04.639 --> 01:03:06.960
even tell if the video that you're watching on X

1152
01:03:07.079 --> 01:03:09.880
or whatever else is real, or if it's a deep fake,

1153
01:03:10.079 --> 01:03:12.320
or if it's just AI, or if it's supposed to

1154
01:03:12.360 --> 01:03:15.679
be a joke or whatever. And so I mean I

1155
01:03:16.199 --> 01:03:18.320
look back, well, how do we How do I as

1156
01:03:18.360 --> 01:03:21.559
a father, and how would I tell other fathers to

1157
01:03:21.679 --> 01:03:23.920
guide their kids in the future, because I don't think

1158
01:03:23.920 --> 01:03:27.440
I can tell them, you know, go join Corporate America

1159
01:03:28.199 --> 01:03:31.840
after a four year college degree, work for thirty years,

1160
01:03:31.960 --> 01:03:35.280
and invest in your wroth IRA and expect that Social

1161
01:03:35.320 --> 01:03:38.039
Security and Medicare will be there for you when you retire.

1162
01:03:38.079 --> 01:03:40.519
I mean, I think that system is pretty well dead

1163
01:03:40.559 --> 01:03:43.840
and gone. And so then the question comes down to

1164
01:03:44.599 --> 01:03:46.480
what do you do? How do you guide your kids?

1165
01:03:46.920 --> 01:03:51.119
And what I figured out was that are not figured out.

1166
01:03:51.159 --> 01:03:53.960
But what I came to the realization of was it

1167
01:03:54.079 --> 01:03:59.800
AI has in essence democratized PhD level intelligence globally for

1168
01:03:59.800 --> 01:04:03.679
twenty bucks a month. So what that means is, you know,

1169
01:04:03.760 --> 01:04:06.239
now you've got a kid that's ten thousand miles away,

1170
01:04:06.280 --> 01:04:09.320
who's fifteen years old, using chat GPT, that can write

1171
01:04:09.760 --> 01:04:13.679
a business plan on par with the Harvard MBA with

1172
01:04:13.800 --> 01:04:16.800
his hedge fund managers and as you know, a powerful

1173
01:04:16.800 --> 01:04:19.880
attorneys back in them. And so, in a world where

1174
01:04:19.880 --> 01:04:23.440
everybody is now driving a Ferrari or a Lamborghini you know,

1175
01:04:23.519 --> 01:04:26.920
or an intellectual f one McLaren, you know, what do

1176
01:04:26.960 --> 01:04:29.079
you do? And so I go back to the timeless

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Welcome back, Bill Martinez here with Adam Hartage, former CIA

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operations officers, as he reported earlier, is at the j

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six rally. He's here to talk about you know, we

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talked about the revelation connecting the January sixth pipe bomber case,

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but right now we're talking about you know, how do

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you how do you encourage your kids in this day

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and age where you know truth has become relevant and

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that you know, the whole issue of integrity has been compromised.

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You know, like what you were talking about, Adam, is

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that you had to pause and look at those things

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that were integrists, that are right and noble, these time

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honored I say, first principles. You know, we need to

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return to these first proven principles that have made this

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country great and and gives us the opportunity to make

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it great again. But if we don't embrace those principles,

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we can't short circuit this thing. We need to go

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back and take a look at the foundation that this

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country was built on and reinforce those founding principles.

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Right, Yeah, I one hundred percent agree with that. I mean,

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America is only as good as it is moral and Tokeville,

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you know, I has a wonderful quote on that about

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America's goodness or greatness because of its goodness, right, And

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I just I think about that, and I think about

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the I'm, first of all, let me tell you, I'm

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not a doomsday guy. I do think that we're for

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some extremely challenging times ahead. I am very worried about

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artificial general intelligence. I am worried about you know, Skynet

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going live, and you know, it being a war of

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humans versus machines and.

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All that stuff.

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And I do worry about the day when AI becomes where,

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when AI's objectives no longer aligned with humanity subjectives. I

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worry about those things. But I can't do anything about

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those That is the relentless march of time, and it's

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just going to happen one way or another. So the

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best thing I can do is prepare my kids, my family,

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and this next generation with timeless truths. Like you know, frankly,

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most of the answers are in the are in the

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two thousand year old book. You know that I keep.

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Still still the number one best seller.

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Is still the number one best seller of all time, right,

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So I mean it's I keep a copy pretty much

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in every room in the house and uh and and

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I truly live by faith and not by these days.

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And I believe that my experiences both as a CIA guy,

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as a military veteran, as a business entrepreneur, as somebody

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who has fought the narrative and gone against you know,

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the policies with regards to you know, COVID mandates and

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lockdowns and nonsense and all the silly stuff that we

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saw for years, I think it's given me a really

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unique lens to see the world through. And I believe

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that I have a really strong ability to discern truth

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and that that discernment is ultimately provided by my heavenly Father,

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who I serve in submission to, you know, as as

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you know, my whole thing is Lord, you know, let

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me pick up my cross and follow you. And it's

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not going to be easy, I know, but I'll try

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and you know, pave the way for my kids in

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the next generation as well. And so you know, if

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anybody wants, especially a parent, I think this is the

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most important conversation a parent can have with your children.

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I mean now and probably for the next ten plus years,

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and that is how do you parents guide their kids

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in a way that will allow their children to thrive

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and maintain their unique identities and their God given spark

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in a world that is trying to a deceive them

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and b turn them into a carbon copy of a

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carbon copy. So you know, that's what I go into extensively,

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and I would recommend everybody pick up a copy of

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Valpham absolutely. It's on Amazon. And General Flynn, my old boss,

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America's General, was kind enough to write the forward for

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the book and endorse it as well. So if anybody

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out there is in conspiracy town is wondering that this

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former agency guy is legitimate or not, I've got the

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General's vote, So you can take that for what it's worth.

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Well, what your you know, what you're saying here and

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something that I've been you know, reiterating to our audience

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is it starts with self. You have to take self responsibility.

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It's not your job to go out there and save

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the world. You know, maybe it is, maybe God decided

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you're the guy, but right now, immediately, the first thing

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we can do is take care of our own business,

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be self responsible, and then you know, the next tier

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of people in your immediate influence, your kids, your wife,

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your family members. You know, then it goes into your community,

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your neighborhood and that sort of thing, but it starts

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with you being that difference because if you are exercising

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self responsibility, you're going to stand out immediately in a

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world that, as you said, wants to make everybody a

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carbon copy of a carbon copy. And the thing is

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the self responsibility. Will you yield that fruit of righteousness

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as long as you're connected to the heavenly Father, right,

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because you've got to be connected to the source of

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life and all things that are good and noble, which

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is God Almighty right.

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Yeah, absolutely effect. I say, the very first thing that

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families need to do, that parents need to do is

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they need to get right with themselves and they needed

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to get right with the Father, and then they need

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to embrace their core essence. So that's the first thing

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is faith, and the second thing is family, and that's

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building their family network. They're a close personal network of

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real humans and human context. Because I think as we

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go into this world where everything is fake and it's

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impossible to discern what is true and what is not

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true online people are there's going to be a real

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resurgon for resurgence, for the desire for real human connection.

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And so I tell my kids. You know, one thing

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I tell my ten year old my seven year old

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is you cannot lie. Not get in the habit of lying,

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and not because Dad, you know, is going to get

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mad at you because you lied about this or you

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lie about that. I said, because the world that you

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are going into is a world full of lies. And

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if you are not a true, authentic individual, you will

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literally just become part of the window washing, you know,

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part of that drop.

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You'll become the lie. I mean to your point earlier COVID.

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Look what happened in COVID. How many people because they

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bought into that lie? How many people bought into that lie?

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How many families lost people because of it? How many

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people had to watch a grandparent or a loved one

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die behind glass walls when when they could have easily

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been saved had the government does not forced the most

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ridiculous protocols on humanity and humanity went along with it. Yeah,

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I spoke out against it. I had my company. I

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was running a remote health solutions, my telehealth company at

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the time, and we were destroyed. We were completely canceled

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by the government. After I spoke out about the disinformation

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narrative that the government was pushing during COVID.

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Yeah, we thrown We were thrown into YouTube jail all

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the time constantly because we held to the truth. And

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you know, we're interviewing doctors and specialists that knew better,

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you know, doctors telling me Bill I would not recommend

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to my page, my family members, anybody to take the shot.

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And the protocols that they were pushing were just counterintuitive.

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And the whole emergency authorization used, how that was a

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setup and everything. We could go on and on, but

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a little bit more about your business, tell us a

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little bit more. We got a couple of minutes here.

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Yeah, well, actually that business for Mote Health Solutions was destroyed.

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And so as I looked around at the ashes of

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my life after having been fired from the CIA for

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going against their narratives and then having lost my company

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for going against the government COVID narratives, I was really

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scratching my head saying what am.

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I going to do?

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01:17:45.520 --> 01:17:47.600
And I realized, well, you know, God has put you

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in a unique position to lead this next generation because

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01:17:51.239 --> 01:17:54.239
of the experiences that you've endured, the things that you've

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01:17:54.239 --> 01:17:56.600
gone through, the things that you've seen and witnessed, and

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01:17:56.640 --> 01:18:00.199
I have served my country honorably, you know, having been

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to multiple wars. I've given my best years of my life.

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And I intend to make sure that this next generation

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does not get duped in the same way that many

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of us did in the post nine to eleven global

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War on terror world where we now live. And I mean,

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01:18:14.760 --> 01:18:17.520
I've seen all the craziness that we've seen. And as

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a Generation X guy, you know, we're used to just

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getting kicked in the teeth over and over and over

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throughout most of our lives. And so I'm trying to equip.

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My new business is this, and it is this one

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hundred percent. It is this next generation. It is training

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and coaching and teaching the next generation how to identify

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the lives, how to thrive in the future, how to

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stay relevant, how to use the tools of AI responsibly

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and not put their brain in a jar. Because AI

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has democratized PhD level intelligence globally for twenty bucks a month.

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So if that's the case, how do you stay relevant?

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How do you separate yourself from the crowd? I go

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01:18:59.319 --> 01:19:01.319
into that a lot. There's a lot of It's a

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01:19:01.399 --> 01:19:05.920
very practical user based guide it's one where every chapter,

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01:19:06.479 --> 01:19:08.800
you know, starts with deer kids, and it's a letter

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01:19:09.039 --> 01:19:12.000
to the next generation. It's designed their book is written

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in a way that parents should sit down with their

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kids and have these conversations. Because I'm not telling kids

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01:19:18.359 --> 01:19:21.039
go to college, don't go to college, join a company,

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01:19:21.079 --> 01:19:23.720
don't join a company. It's not like that. It's more

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01:19:23.760 --> 01:19:28.319
about mindset and mental preparation for the world that they

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01:19:28.359 --> 01:19:31.920
are inheriting for, this world of lives, this world of deceit,

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01:19:32.079 --> 01:19:35.640
this world where it is almost impossible to discern truth.

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But there's one timeless way that we can all do that,

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01:19:40.279 --> 01:19:43.479
and that is through submission to our heavenly Father and

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01:19:44.359 --> 01:19:48.239
getting yourself right and knowing that you are willing to

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01:19:48.359 --> 01:19:51.520
pick up your cross and follow. And I think that's

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01:19:51.680 --> 01:19:53.800
that's going to be what separates the wheat in the chaff.

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01:19:53.800 --> 01:19:56.800
And I think we're in the season that that's pretty important.

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01:19:57.439 --> 01:19:59.640
I agree with you, Adam Hard and our guests. He's

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01:19:59.640 --> 01:20:02.880
the author of the Alpha Blueprint, Preparing the Next Generation

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01:20:03.039 --> 01:20:08.000
for an AI future. He is a combat veteran, a

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01:20:08.079 --> 01:20:12.000
former CIA operations officer, and nationally recognized voice on leadership,

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01:20:12.359 --> 01:20:16.520
national security, and the future of America's children in AI

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01:20:16.640 --> 01:20:18.840
driven world. Adam, thank you so much for being with us.

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Take care, Hey, God bless Bill, thank you.

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Hey, we're back with you, Bill Martinez here along with

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Jeff Kampa, ministry leader and author and former nfl QB. Hey,

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mister Jeff, how you doing.

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I'm well? Thanks Bill.

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Hey. You know, I was thinking about this morning and

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it hit me and what I felt the Holy Spirit

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was leading me to was that again we're coming into

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a season of thanksgiving. You and I've talked about this

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before Advent season, how this all sets up, you know,

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the holiday season, and the idea again is to remind

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everybody that it's better to give than receive. You know,

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but you need both. You need a giver and you

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01:24:34.039 --> 01:24:39.720
need a receiver. But the Bible says in Acts, you know,

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Paul reminded everybody that, or would have been Saint Luke

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01:24:43.880 --> 01:24:47.039
would have reminded everybody that it's better to give than

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to receive.

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I mean, we are by nature self oriented people that

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try to collect, you know, advantage, enjoyment, wealth for ourself.

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But God knows that that mindset of sin breaks down

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01:25:10.399 --> 01:25:16.399
relationships and it isn't good for our character. And when

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01:25:16.439 --> 01:25:20.319
it is self oriented sin, it distances us from God.

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01:25:21.000 --> 01:25:25.279
But to give is like God, right exactly, So obviously

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01:25:25.359 --> 01:25:30.000
it's better to be like God giving than receiving. Now

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01:25:30.000 --> 01:25:32.039
there's an insering twist to this, and you know this

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is coming from a guy. You can see the book there.

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Steving is the way that Jesus lived. He received from

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his father everything that he said and did, and then

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he gave. Not only did he heal people and teach

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them and you know, give him food like five thousand

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01:25:51.319 --> 01:25:55.119
plus that he fed, but he gave his very life

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01:25:56.079 --> 01:26:00.279
and reconcile this to God. So it's actually this weve

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01:26:00.319 --> 01:26:05.239
from God. Then we give to our wife or husband,

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or our child, or our enemy, or our neighbor or.

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The person in need.

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01:26:11.199 --> 01:26:14.760
And that giving is better than receiving. Because if I'm

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01:26:14.760 --> 01:26:17.039
trying to receive everything from Stacy and have her make

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01:26:17.119 --> 01:26:19.960
me happy, then I'm going to drain the value out

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of that relationship. I'm going to be selfish. You know,

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01:26:22.239 --> 01:26:24.760
it's a consumer It drains it. But if I'm wise,

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01:26:25.359 --> 01:26:28.760
I'll received from God and then I can give to Stacy.

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01:26:29.319 --> 01:26:32.640
Yeah, exactly, because you'll never get satisfied. You know, pat Riley,

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I love pat Riley's book. You know in his book Showtime,

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he talked about the disease of more and I thought

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that was so profound because in our humanity, like you say,

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01:26:41.479 --> 01:26:46.039
in our consumeristic attitude and mindset, it's never enough. Right,

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01:26:46.640 --> 01:26:50.239
So and here it is. And like you said, whenever

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God gives you, you have to you have to let

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it go. We are agents of God's light and his

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love and that has to go through if we to

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ourselves and somehow think, well, you know, I could run out.

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I can't give this to Jeff because if I give

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it to Jeff, you know, my tank's gonna run empty. Now,

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you can't because otherwise, if you close down and shut down,

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then you've become like the dead sea. It goes talking

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to somebody else. The other day, they didn't quite understand

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what made the dead sea dead. What makes it dead

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is the water comes in but doesn't go out.

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There's no outlet.

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Yeah, right, exactly. So we don't want to be smelling

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like the dead sea.

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Do we?

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No, we don't want to be study And I've heard

1594
01:27:32.920 --> 01:27:36.600
a great metaphor before. We don't want to be buckets

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who say God bless me, God bless me, God give me,

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God help me. Yes, I'm afraid that if we give

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to others, like you said, in a zero sum equation,

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if I give some, I got to lose some.

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Yes, that's the world's way.

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That's why everyone competes for money, and everyone's trying to get,

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you know, the best deal for themselves. And there's the

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profit motive that can go overboard to the greed motive

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without Jesus. But if God is the blesser and every

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good gift comes from him, we're just funnels. God is

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very very happy to give more and more to the

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person who funnels it to others, which is why Jesus

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said the greatest command is to love. I think I

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might have mentioned to you that I went to England

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01:28:22.560 --> 01:28:27.319
not to and we were studying C. S. Lewis and

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01:28:27.399 --> 01:28:30.159
the professor who was talking to us, Jerry Root, a

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01:28:30.279 --> 01:28:34.439
PhD in CS lewis studies. He said he looked at

1612
01:28:34.479 --> 01:28:38.000
the Seven Deadly Sins, of which C. S. Lewis was

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01:28:38.039 --> 01:28:41.000
a scholar, and talked about pride being the starting point.

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01:28:41.359 --> 01:28:43.159
I'm more important. I don't need God. I can do

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it my own way. But he said, I don't know

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01:28:45.960 --> 01:28:48.119
if it's related to pride. It must be, but I

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think this root of sin is not receiving God's love

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in the first place, and then trying to earn God's

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01:28:55.840 --> 01:28:59.920
love through religion and morality, or trying to get what

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01:29:00.199 --> 01:29:03.399
we want and satisfaction from other people, from life, from achievement,

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01:29:03.439 --> 01:29:09.479
from success. So receiving from God what he gives first

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01:29:09.880 --> 01:29:13.000
frees us up to love others. Yeah, but we don't

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01:29:13.039 --> 01:29:16.359
receive God's love, which is grace, and a lot a

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01:29:16.359 --> 01:29:19.159
lot of people have a hard time receiving grace, you know,

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01:29:19.279 --> 01:29:21.479
they think, you know, I know I can't save myself,

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01:29:21.520 --> 01:29:23.960
but I can make God smile on me and give

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01:29:24.000 --> 01:29:27.319
me more a better deal in life. So I'll be

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01:29:27.399 --> 01:29:30.039
really holy, I'll be really righteous, I'll never sin again.

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01:29:30.520 --> 01:29:31.000
Good luck.

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01:29:31.000 --> 01:29:33.239
And any day we try to not send we end

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01:29:33.319 --> 01:29:35.159
up messing up because we got pride in our heart.

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01:29:35.720 --> 01:29:40.359
But if we receive God's love, which is grace and

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01:29:40.439 --> 01:29:43.119
say only he gets the credit, we're set free to

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01:29:43.119 --> 01:29:45.119
love others because we're not trying to hold onto anything.

1635
01:29:45.720 --> 01:29:47.560
Right. But you know, it gets back to that point

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01:29:47.560 --> 01:29:50.680
of arrogancy that you talked about, that mindset that and

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01:29:50.720 --> 01:29:54.640
it's then it's faith by works, and that's man made,

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01:29:54.680 --> 01:29:58.880
that's man contrived. That's not the way God operates. You know, freely,

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01:29:58.960 --> 01:30:02.279
you give, freely recons you know. It's just again thinking

1640
01:30:02.319 --> 01:30:06.279
about Keith Green, a great musician from the seventies and eighties,

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01:30:06.319 --> 01:30:08.840
and this guy was just unbelievable. I mean, you talked

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01:30:08.880 --> 01:30:11.760
about somebody who was a turned on Christian. So he

1643
01:30:12.479 --> 01:30:16.000
his ministry was such that he stopped charging for his

1644
01:30:16.119 --> 01:30:18.399
albums and his music. He told people said, look, if

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you can't afford to just send me a message, I'll say,

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I'm happy to send you an album. Well you can

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imagine the music industry that is based on a model

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of hey, I produced this great music and you pay

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me and I make a bunch of money. And that

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just kind of disturbed, you know, the equilibrium of the

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music industry. But that was Keith. He was you know,

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God said, hey, look at freely, I give freely received,

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you know, and you just pour it out. That's Keith's mindset.

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He was, like you said, he was so sold out.

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And I you know, and that challenges me and I

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sit there and start looking for ways. Okay, God, how

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can I be sold out? How can I not? You know,

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01:30:53.880 --> 01:30:56.239
Just like you're talking about is that we're receiving from

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the Father. We're not holding back. We're not so arrogant

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01:30:59.239 --> 01:31:02.239
to think that it's of our own doing, but that

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we freely I mean, that's true liberation, isn't it.

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Yes? And I think coming back to where you started

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01:31:07.720 --> 01:31:12.239
this conversation, the ability to be gracious and generous and

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freely give to others and sold out right, my life

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is for others benefit, not for mine. The ability to

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do that comes from receiving God's love. And what is

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receiving God's love, It's gratitude. So Thanksgiving is a wonderful

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not just November, but year round practice. And the psalms

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are replete with David saying thank you. I praise you Lord,

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I give gratitude to you. I honor you. You're faithful

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in the past, you're faithful in the future. You've created nature,

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You've created the skies, the stars, you gave life. You

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know you created me, and you're in my mom's womb.

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You're so special God. And then you gave your son,

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Jesus Christ when we didn't deserve it. And it says

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God demonstrated his unconditional love and that while we were

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still rebellious sinners, Christ died for us. That is the

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greatest gift that was not deserved. Grace and thanksgiving is

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01:32:14.920 --> 01:32:17.159
saying thank you for that, and for my breath, and

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for my body, and for my wife, and for my kids,

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01:32:19.720 --> 01:32:22.439
and for the lawn in my yard and the trees

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out there, and thank you Lord that I faced some

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trials which made me learn that I cannot make it

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on my own. I need you.

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01:32:31.000 --> 01:32:34.199
Jeff forgot about a half left here, and you triggered

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this thought here. And I know it may sound like

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maybe I'm making a hard left here, but I think

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there's some relevance here. The big catch word today that

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we're hearing in the you know genre politics is affordability.

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If you're connected to God, affordability is a non issue.

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You know, think about that because, like you said, you know,

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you're not a bucket. You're just an agent of God's love,

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his mercy, raise his joy, and you just start letting it,

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letting it pass through, and you're not sitting there thinking

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about what you don't have and what somebody else has.

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Right well, Jesus said, seek first me God, the righteousness

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of God and his kingdom, kingdom of everything you need

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to be added unto you. So God is the provider,

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We are the funnel, and Bill and Jeff and everyone

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listening is meant to funnel God's love to the person

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who's in need at the moment they're in need, and

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someday they'll funnel it to someone else. If we had

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that culture, with the Church of Christians taking care of

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one another, government programs would not need to be the

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end all, which they never solved the problem. So if

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you want help, go to Jeff kempteam dot com and

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we'll keep this dialogue of trusting and thanking God and

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sharing with others largely through friendship.

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Well, go today and think how you might be able

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Good to have you with us.

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Bill Martinez here, we've got Zachary Mettler from Focus on

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the Family. Hey, Zach, how we doing?

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Bill?

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I am doing well.

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How about you? Hey, I'm doing terrific. Great to have

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you here. By the way, Zach, if you haven't recalled

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and you didn't check on your notes. He's with Focus

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on the Families, a staff writer and a communications laison,

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and we're going to talk about a topic that you

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know continues to increase in our conversation here, Zach, and

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that has to do with you know, assisted suicide and

1806
01:38:49.319 --> 01:38:54.119
you know and we're not surprised because this I guess,

1807
01:38:54.439 --> 01:38:56.640
you know, not to be too cynical, but I guess

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01:38:56.720 --> 01:39:02.239
to observe it reasonably. We've become a you know, kind

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of a death society.

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01:39:04.079 --> 01:39:07.840
Yeah, yeah, the culture of death is what you're talking about.

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And I think you need to look at Canada for

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a good example of why physician assistant suicide legalizing it

1813
01:39:14.720 --> 01:39:17.119
is such a problematic idea. This is a story I've

1814
01:39:17.119 --> 01:39:19.560
been written writing on for a few years now, and

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they first legalized physician assistant suicide in twenty sixteen, and

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since then, every single year an increasing number of people

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choose to end their lives with physician assistant suicide. So

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in twenty twenty three, it was fifteen thousand, three hundred

1819
01:39:35.600 --> 01:39:39.520
people that chose a physician assisted suicide. It was sixteen thousand,

1820
01:39:39.640 --> 01:39:42.199
five hundred and twenty twenty four, and the next year,

1821
01:39:42.239 --> 01:39:46.199
assuming these trends continue, in just ten years, over one

1822
01:39:46.319 --> 01:39:49.840
hundred thousand people in Canada will have chosen to end

1823
01:39:49.880 --> 01:39:51.439
their lives with physician.

1824
01:39:51.039 --> 01:39:52.119
Assists at suicide.

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01:39:52.199 --> 01:39:55.039
So we need to look at Canada as an example

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01:39:55.359 --> 01:39:58.600
and say, man, once we legalize physician assistant suicide, it

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01:39:58.680 --> 01:40:02.840
just quickly devolves, a quickly expands and in Canada physicians

1828
01:40:02.920 --> 01:40:06.560
system suicide is now the fifth leading cause of death

1829
01:40:07.359 --> 01:40:10.560
across the country. And so this is a huge warning

1830
01:40:10.680 --> 01:40:13.319
to us that we have to really take to heart

1831
01:40:13.399 --> 01:40:16.479
and really examine whether this is something that we want

1832
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to legalize.

1833
01:40:18.119 --> 01:40:21.399
Well, you know, I just have a problem fundamentally, you know,

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because God is life, right, and you know, we grew

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up and not that we were Jewish or anything like that,

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but we we always you know, like Fiddler on the Roof,

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you know, Laheim, you celebrate, you know, life because it

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connects you so directly with God, doesn't. I mean, this

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is why we believe and support everything that chooses life.

1840
01:40:45.279 --> 01:40:49.159
And what this does in terms of assisted suicide and

1841
01:40:49.239 --> 01:40:52.479
this culture of death that you referred to earlier, is

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01:40:52.520 --> 01:40:58.720
that philosophically, it puts a a veil over the issue

1843
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of life and death, and all of a sudden it

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puts it doesn't put a life and death in the

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hands of the Creator, it now puts it in the

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hands of his creation.

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Right.

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That's that's exactly right and so well said. And you know,

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as Christians, we know that human beings are made in

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the image and likeness of God, that we have this

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value in worth that is really distinct to our being

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and so when we have any kind of attack on that,

1853
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that is really an attack on what God has made

1854
01:41:30.840 --> 01:41:33.119
us to be. And we have to talk about this

1855
01:41:33.399 --> 01:41:37.319
in very clear terms. You know, advocates of euthanasia they

1856
01:41:37.359 --> 01:41:39.359
try to kind of couch it in these nice terms.

1857
01:41:39.399 --> 01:41:42.319
So Canada they call their program MADE, which stands for

1858
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Medical Aid in Dying. So you say MADE, you don't

1859
01:41:46.199 --> 01:41:48.159
really know what somebody's talking about, right, It kind of

1860
01:41:48.159 --> 01:41:52.439
sounds okay, But what we're talking about is one person

1861
01:41:52.520 --> 01:41:55.239
prescribing a drug that then kills someone else. So we're

1862
01:41:55.239 --> 01:41:57.319
talking about killing people here, and we have to be

1863
01:41:57.439 --> 01:42:00.319
very clear about that and then what we're what we're

1864
01:42:00.319 --> 01:42:03.399
actually talking about in these terms. And Canada, you know,

1865
01:42:03.439 --> 01:42:07.319
they claim to have a strict criteria for people to

1866
01:42:07.439 --> 01:42:11.640
access position assisted suicide, but in twenty twenty three there

1867
01:42:11.640 --> 01:42:14.800
are over one thousand people whose requests were approved under

1868
01:42:14.840 --> 01:42:19.920
what they call other conditions, which includes things like diabetes, frailty,

1869
01:42:20.359 --> 01:42:23.560
autoimmune conditions, and chronic pain. You know, my sister has

1870
01:42:23.640 --> 01:42:28.680
diabetes and my dad has auto but they're totally treatable

1871
01:42:28.720 --> 01:42:31.520
that you can prescribe a drug and it's not fun

1872
01:42:31.560 --> 01:42:34.319
to monitor. But it doesn't it's not true that their

1873
01:42:34.359 --> 01:42:36.279
lives are going to end in any natural way in

1874
01:42:36.279 --> 01:42:40.079
anytime soon. And so when you have that as a

1875
01:42:40.119 --> 01:42:43.880
possibility for somebody to be able to access positions assistant suicide,

1876
01:42:44.439 --> 01:42:47.079
it just opens it up to almost anybody who wants

1877
01:42:47.119 --> 01:42:49.760
to end their lives for nearly any reason.

1878
01:42:50.600 --> 01:42:53.279
Well, everything, it seems that it has to do with

1879
01:42:53.359 --> 01:42:56.479
life this day these days, is based on convenience. Right.

1880
01:42:56.800 --> 01:42:58.680
I had to get an abortion because it was a

1881
01:42:58.760 --> 01:43:02.920
convenient thing to do. I had to help my parents

1882
01:43:04.600 --> 01:43:08.000
commit euthanasia because you know, it as a hassle taking

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care of them, you know, and they were becoming more

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and more dependent on me, and it was an encumbrance.

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You know, these kind of selfish you know, attitudes that

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permeate our culture. And I think, Zach, as I'm hearing

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you talk, is that we need a counter narrative that

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celebrates life in such a way because you know, with

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all these things about the tough things of life and

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especially end stages. And I get it. And some people say, Bill,

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you know you don't You're not living my life. You know,

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you don't know what it is for me to take

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care of my parents twenty four to seven and the

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impact the effect that has had on my social life

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and my work and everything. No, I get that, but

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we need something that counters that narrative, Zach that says, hey,

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look at here's other families who are experiencing end of

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life stages, and we all will go through there. Last heard, barring,

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the barring, the rapture. Nobody's gonna leave this place alive, right,

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and so it's inevitable we're going to go through that.

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But what should we look forward to? And I believe

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you know, you hear testimonials from families who have you know,

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fought the good fight, that went to the end with

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their you know, with their loved ones, their parents, good

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friends and whatever, and they refer to it as just

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you know, precious moments that uh what otherwise would have

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been lost? That are you know, you just can't redeem those,

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you know, once they're gone, right.

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That, Yeah, that's exactly right. And I think we have

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to remember that that that once. As Christians, we have

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to remember that we suffering is not something to be

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avoided at all costs, right. I think of the example

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of Christ on the cross. Uh, when there's moment of

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suffering and pain, that's perhaps the lowest point of the universe,

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when when creation killed, our Creator killed the person who

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came to love and save us. At that low moment,

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that's actually when God is that his most powerful, when

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he's deeming and accomplishing our salvation. And so suffering is

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not something that we have to entirely do away with

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or avoid at all costs, or throughout moral boundaries in

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terms of killing people to try to avoid. It's something

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that we believe as Christians that the suffering can be

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redeemed in some way, that that God knows and that

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God has kind of imbued into the system. And as

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Christians we have to have a better answer, and that's

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that we come alongside those who are suffering. We don't

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try to just quickly end their lives. We say, man,

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how can I come alongside this person, this loved one?

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Suffering in that way becomes an opportunity for us to

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show love, to become more and more like Christ. That

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that is largely why God permits evil and suffering to

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transform our character using our free will in order in

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order to become like become like Christ. And then another

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part about this whole conversation as legalizing physicians says, as suicide,

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once that happens, it quickly devolves, it quickly expands, and

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we're seeing that again. I'll point to Canada. There are

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now people in Canada groups who are advocating for expanding

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physician assisted suicide to those who are under eighteen years old.

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They say, you know, if a nineteen year old can

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do it, which they're cut off as eighteen year old.

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If a nineteen year old person can do it, how

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about a sixteen year old, how about a seventeen year old?

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That's absolutely horrible. And in twenty twenty seven, they're likely

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to expand access access to physician assistant suicide to those

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who are struggling solely with a mental illness. So if

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you have anxiety or depression, that one condition can now

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make you eligible for physician assisted suicide. So we have

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two bills here in the United States now, in New

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York and in Illinois, where the assemblies have passed bills

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legalizing physician assisted suicide. And so I'd really encourage everybody,

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and especially in New York and Illinois, to urge their

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governors to veto these bills, because especially with the New

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York bill, that bill does not contain a residency requirement,

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so it essentially opened up euthanasia and physician assistant suicide

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to anybody in America or really anybody in the world

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who wants to travel to New York to kill themselves

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in this way. And so we have to have compassion,

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we have to have hope. We have to proclaim the

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Gospel of life, if you will, where we remind people

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of their value and worth before God that even in suffering,

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even in pain their their life, it still has meaning,

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still has value, still has purpose, and it gives other

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people an opportunity to love them in the way that

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they know best. And so we have to we have

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to focus on that and really defeat these bills, especially

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in New York and Illinois.

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Well, as you say, I mean, there's lots done packed there,

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and we've only got a couple of minutes. So I'm

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going to try and sum it up as best I

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can here, Zach. First of all, Jesus said, hey, you're

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going to suffer. He didn't say it's going to be

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easy peasy. And here's this great, wonderful, unicorn kind of

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world that you're going to live. No, you're going to suffer.

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Peter himself said, oh, Jesus, I don't want you to suffer, right,

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And what did Jesus say? Hey, get behind me, Satan.

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You know you're not on God's side on this deal.

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And I think this is sometimes we have to look

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at it and say, Okay, whose side am I on?

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You know, as you're pointing out Zach, are we on?

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You know, the human side that says, hey, you know,

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we don't want to suffer, but we know in seeing

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how Jesus suffered. I mean sometimes In fact, I was

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mentioning somebody the other day and I was looking at

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the cross and you see Jesus there in some depictions

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and it shows, you know, like a cleaned up Jesus

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hanging from the cross. Well, no, Jesus wasn't cleaned up.

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He was. He was a mess. He had been beaten

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to a pulp. I mean, skin was hanging off of him.

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You know, you think about it. You know his face

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he was so he was so abused, you couldn't even

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recognize him. I think in some cases some people said,

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you didn't even think it was the actual human being

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up there, right, because the way they pulverized him, and

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but we look at it in this clean sort of way.

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And I think that in doing that, it's almost like

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we reduce the significance of jesus sacrifice, and as a result,

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we also reduce the significance of in the suffering. What

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do we receive in that suffering, whether it's personal or

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we're seeing it, you know, at the cross of cavalry.

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Just my thoughts. I really appreciate you coming on the

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show and addressing this issue because I think this is

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a really deep issue and one that we need to Again,

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the answers are in heaven, they're not here on earth. Yes,

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we need to do and like you said, activate our citizenship.

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Let elected officials know your feelings about it. But we

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also need to bring God and the host of Heaven's

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armies into the situation so that His kingdom will be

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here on earth as it is in heaven. Right.

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Yeah, Amen to that, Bill. And I think of the

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verse from from one of the Gospels, Christ said, in

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this world you will have trouble, but take heart, because

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I have overcome the world. And so when we go

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through these instances of suffering, and when we see loved

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ones going through that, Where do we turn Do we

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turn to a physician to end the life of our

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loved one or do we turn to Christ who can

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redeem all things, including those instances of suffering that we

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go through.

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So well, Zach Mendler, thank you so much for being

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on the show Focused on the Family. Staff writer and

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communications lais On Zach Mendler has been our guest. Thank you, Zach.

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Take care, God bless you Asabell.

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Thank you Bill.

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