Nov. 13, 2025

The Bill Martinez Show 11 13 25

The Bill Martinez Show 11 13 25
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The Bill Martinez Show 11 13 25
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, okay, let's do an Ill Martinez Live, a program

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about current events.

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Our culture, our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez, Well.

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Good morning, six minutes after the top of the hour,

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right now, welcome Bill Martinez here along with michael'eil from

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Landmark Leland. Hey, Mike, can't we done?

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I'm good Bill? How are you, buddy?

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Hey, I'm doing pretty good. I mean, you know, we

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had my Marine Corps two hundred and fiftieth birthday on Monday,

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Veterans Day, and show a good week. And also it

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looks like it might be capped off with a government

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opening up for business where it should have never closed

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to begin with.

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Right, absolutely, I mean it's first of all, simple five.

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That's yeah, two hundred and fifty years for the Marine

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Corps birthday. That is something that's amazing. My wife is

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a Marine Corps brat. My father in law was a

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career enlisted off enlisted man, got the gunnery sergeant, served

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in the Far East and everywhere. Her life was one

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of travel. She actually lived for three years in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

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Oh wow, yeah, yeah.

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That's always the interesting whenever somebody says name something interesting,

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and she always says, I lived from I think she

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was eight to eleven or seven to ten in Guantanamo

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Bay Cube. It was her happiest years of her of

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her youth. She loved living there.

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Really, Wow. Interesting, she liked living there.

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Was like small town anyway. Yeah, so that's great. It's amazing.

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Two hundred and fifty years in the Marine Corps. That's

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that's incredible. But yeah, with the government shutdown, lessons to

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be taken from it. I think the certainly it was

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just a waste of time and effort. We know that.

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But one of the important things to draw from it

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is the extent to which American taxpayers are paying for

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so many different things that we had no context for

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what we were paying for. When you see six and

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a half trillion dollars, seven trillion dollars whatever the government

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spends annually, you really it's hard to encapsulate and get

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your head around this. We've talked about this a lot,

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how much money that is and where does it all go? Well,

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you understand now that the American taxpayer is subsidizing recipients

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of Obamacare. I had no idea that we were paying

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I'm not enrolled in Obamacare, but I didn't know the

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extent to which we were underscoring we were providing tax

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credits to people to enroll in Obamacare because the Obamacare

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insurance are so expensive nobody can afford it.

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Yeah, so much for the Affordable Healthcare plan.

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Right, exactly. So we're learning, of course that the Affordable

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Care Act is not affordable and it's certainly not a

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care so I guess it is technically a loss, so

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that that is applicable, but it's nothing, it's not It's

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exactly what the Republicans had said it was going to

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be fifteen years ago, and exactly. So you saw that.

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And the also thing you saw is we didn't understand

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the extent to which that how much SNAP benefits had expanded.

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We've talked about this before. I had no concept that

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we were paying. You know, just a few short years ago,

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twenty nineteen, we were at sixty billion dollars in SNAP benefits,

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and now we're upwards around one hundred and twenty one

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hundred and thirty billion dollars.

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And so it's just, yeah, you've doubled recipients. I mean,

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we're up over forty million recipients million.

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Yeah, forty two million recipients. So you're just seeing this

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a massive, massive transfer of wealth from the taxpayers to others.

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I mean, whether it's the recipients of snap benefits or

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it's it's uh, you know, tax credits for individuals and

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rolling in Medicare. Now I don't I'm not saying I

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don't grudge people who are receiving their tax credits for

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enrolling in Medicare, but I what the problem, of course,

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is the fact that health insurance is so exceptionally expensive

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in this country that it's unaffordable that we need the

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government to incur more debt to simply subsidize the continuation

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of people having their health insurance. And that's clearly a

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problem that needs to be addressed by Congress and by

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the administration.

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Well, Obamacare was such a loser to begin with, Like

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you said, everything that Republicans, anybody that knew anything about

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common sense healthcare knew that this was a mess. And

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then the only way that they could really support it

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was kind of amazing. I mean almost immediately think about it, Mike,

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Obamacare went on life support from day one because it

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couldn't stand on its own. They had to marry it

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into Medicare, right, So what does that tell you right there?

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It tells me that the architects of it were intelligent

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people who saw this and understood that the way to

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get nationalized socialized healthcare in America was to start this

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long process and by getting their ultimate endgame is to

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get everyone into a single pair system and us all

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just on socialized medicare, some sort of socialized health insurance plan,

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and to do away with this and to make it

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so unaffordable that we had no choice but to rely

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on the government. I mean, that has to be the

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Machiabelian plan that was put into action fifteen years ago.

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We knew what it was back then. We called it

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for what it was. But Obama used all his political

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capital to get this through, and it's turning out to

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be a disaster. I mean, if you think about this now,

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if you look at the costs, and I don't have

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this one right in front of me, but a forty

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year old's monthly insurance payment has gone has gone from

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like three or four hundred dollars to like or two

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or three hundred dollars to like eight or nine hundred

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dollars a month. You have to pay for a family

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of four, it's like three thousand dollars a month. And again,

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the people who are paying the health these premiums aren't

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really aren't the people who are sick. You know, you

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have people working, say you're thirty five, forty years old,

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you have a family, you have a couple of little kids.

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You might have to use your health insurance for your

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well baby's visits or your well child's visits, or maybe

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your your wife has got head or baby through that.

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But generally speaking, you're paying three or four thousand dollars

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a month and you're not using that right. It's that

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that money is going to subsidize health care for the

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other people to pay for the health.

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Care, the people who didn't take care of themselves. And

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so the bleeding heart Democrats are going, well, you know

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these people here that And I'm not saying we should

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just you know, cut our losses and let them go

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out and die in the desert somewhere, but I mean,

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you know, to really what they did was they they

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just over low did this whole situation in terms of, hey,

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we're going to take care of these people that are

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you know, their health has declined. Uh, they're they're in

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a crisis. Uh, they've been in a crisis for a

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number of years because because of poor habits, and you know,

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I mean, you know, by and large, you know, I'm

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not saying that something's happened accidentally. And you know, something

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happens with our body that we can't control. But how

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much of it, you know, can we control when you've

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got obese levels where they are, diabetes levels where they are.

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You know what Robert Kennedy Junior has been bringing to

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the front to say, hey, you know we've been paid

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poisoning the populace all these years. You know, all these

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contributing factors that affect health. And when you look at

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universal health care, well you know, are you then you

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have to really do a deep dive on everything. And uh,

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it's I think it's impossible to get to right now.

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Yeah, there is no there is no easy solution. And

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this is this is I've dedicated some band to this

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over the years. You know, we talked about this, so

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you know, fixing social security on paper, the entitlements, fixing

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social security on paper is the solutions are obvious, you know,

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I mean, it's not these aren't good solutions. They're involved pain,

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but it's increasing the age of applicability, eligibility, increasing the

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removing the cap on income, and then decreasing benefits, and

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then you could you could kind of you know, these

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are painful things, but there's nothing I can't encapsulate a

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solution to the healthcare problems. Medicare, for example, in our country,

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the third party payer system, and this is the problem

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with it, right. It was envisioned as a back in

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the nineteen forties when people were coming back from war

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and corporate and the government wanted to provide tax breaks.

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So they said, okay, it's gonna make We're going to

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make health insurance pay costs deductible for corporations, incentivized in

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enrolling individuals in health insurance and health insurance, and so

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you had a third party payer system. Well, back then,

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they didn't the medical field. You got old and you died,

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maybe you got some extra raised, maybe there was this,

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but there wasn't. There wasn't the medical industrial complex you

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have now. And so the system as it was originally

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intended is not was never intended to handle the system

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we have now. And I don't know whether it involves,

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you know, migrating people. The health savings accounts, a pay

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as you go system, but then there's people who just

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can't afford that. It's just beyond anything. And again, medical medicare,

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I think, is just you know, you're importing millions and

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millions of illegal immigrants. You're putting them on the medical

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you know they have medicaid, they don't have Medicaid, but

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they go to ers, and so they're a strain on

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the system. And you have an elderly, aging population who

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are gonna who are gonna need what they need. It's

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just it's it's beguiling to try to get your head

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around the health health problem. Uh cost of medicare medical

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uh medicare cost of health care in this country. To

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get around that problem, I think we could spend hours

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talking about it.

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Well, like you said, it's a huge elephant in the room,

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and uh, but you got to start somewhere, and it's

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going to be a process a piece of a time,

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and there will be some pain, no doubt about it,

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because you know, to this point, America's Americans have been

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conditioned to accept a certain level right now and we've

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got to go to break. We've got more from Mike

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Hey back with you, Bill Martinez here along with Michael

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Neil from Lamark Legal, just to kind of put a

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riven around this whole healthcare deal. You know, Mike, A

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long time ago, you know, our family realized that we

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could go to our local doctor and pay direct because

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you know, the process is is that if if you

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go through insurance, a doctor is waiting for their money

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maybe ninety one hundred and twenty days, right, and then

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even then they can't count it. Sometimes it becomes negotiable,

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you know, because here the guy, you know, the doc

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needs money to pay his life build and everything else.

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And he's got all these receivables sitting there with this

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insurance company. And so we worked out a deal directly

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with the doctors and found out that you know, at

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that time, eighty to one hundred bucks of is it

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took care of the problem. And we, by the grace

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of God, we are pretty lucky. Our family was mostly healthy,

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and so I saw early on that's what we needed

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to have. I had health insurance through my you know,

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through places that I worked from time to time. But

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we found out that doing directly with the doctor's much better.

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Because the other thing too, to remember is when doctors

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pay roughly about maybe forty five to fifty percent of

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that bill handles the administrative cost just to handle all

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the paperwork and everything. So now if you go cash

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and carry, you know, like the old days, you know,

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and say hey, I need a pen of selling shot,

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Well you got two chickens. Hey I got two chickens here?

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Yeah, exactly, you know kind of deal.

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I'm I'm you know, but hey, that was then. This

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is now we understand. But still it's still about commerce. Okay,

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I've got a service to provide. What are you going

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to charge for it, what's the best way. But when

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you you go cash, you're going directly as opposed to

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going in and dealing with insurance companies, regulations, all these

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other additional expenses. And a lot of these doctors have

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wised up to that. I mean, in some cases you've

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got I think we interviewed a doc in the Midwest

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and he had created these concierge services where you pay

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like fifty bucks a month. The family of four, you

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can come to the doctor's many times you want right right.

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And it's funny we use the term health insurance and

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when you think about it, okay, when you have car insurance,

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my car insurance doesn't pay for me to get a

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new battery, right, or my car insurance. My car insurance

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is if I'm hit a car accident, my auto insurance.

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If I'm in an accident, a black swam, something unforeseen happens,

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and I have insurance to pay for that.

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A catastrophic level, A catastrophic level, exactly.

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Yeah, if I want to get an oil change, I don't.

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I don't have to pay for I don't. My car

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insurance company doesn't pay for that. My homeowner's insurance company

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doesn't pay for me if I need a new dishwasher.

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So again, if you're going to use the insurance term,

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then under that ration, under that brain you know, and

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following that logic, health insurance is catchy applies to catastrophic coverage.

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If I okay, if I go get a physical, yeah,

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why would health insurance pay for that? It doesn't pay

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for my car to get an oil change? Or why

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is my health insurance if I go to get you know,

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if I have strepped throat my health insurance, why should

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I pay for that? If I have a black swan

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event where I mean in an accident, you know, a

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car hits me and I lose my leg, Okay, well

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there you go. Or if I have cancer, then again

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this is the catastrophic coverage. And to my my understanding

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is there there is no Again I don't have a

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lot of experience. I don't know. There's no such thing

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as catastrophic coverage anymore. I don't think health insurance companies

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offer that to be.

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I thought they did, but maybe I'm wrong too. But

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but I don't know. But you're but you see, you're

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touching on something that needs to be considered. It's not

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you know, it's not taking care of somebody who has

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a cold and decides, hey, I'm going to go to

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the emergency room. And so the emergency rooms are charging

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anywhere from a grand to two grand, right right, And

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then they go and then and and then the illegal

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immigrants says, hey, I don't got any money. Well that's okay,

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don't worry about it. Joe Smith over here, we're gonna

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charge him. That's why we charge two thousand dollars, because

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Joe Smith's paying for himself and an illegal immigrant.

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Yeah, this is the flaw of a third party payer system.

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When you have somebody, as you say, you were talking

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about a commerce trade a horse you know, horse trade,

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the provider and you know, the guy who provides the

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service and the guy who receives the service. That's the

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that's the commerce right there. But when you introduce a

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third party payer system, obviously all the complications and then

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the incentive to contain costs are removed because well, I

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don't know, Hey, my health insurance paying is paying for this.

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Why do I care how much it's going to cost?

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Same for Medicare for Medicare recipients. You know, it doesn't

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matter if you go get an MRI, you know, four

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or five times. Yeah, I'm not paying for it, So

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what is it? What does it matter. There's no incentive

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in the in the system to contain costs, and it's

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just there's just so much wrong with it. It's just

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it's this, as you said, it's this elephant in the

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room that's going to be facing our country. I think

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it's probably one of the primary issues that's facing us

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long term. How we're going to deal with this as

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a country, how we're going to address it in the

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next ten, twenty thirty years, because, as I said before,

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we have the largest cohort, the largest population cohort in

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American history, the baby boomers that are now i mean

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well into retirement age and now approaching fast approaching eighty.

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So the rubbers starting to meet the road on this,

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and we're gonna have to make some tough choices.

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Another another program brought to you by the government, you know,

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just like Obamacare that you know, seemed like a good

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idea at the time, but they really didn't forecast and

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then on top of that, they exacerbated the problem by

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getting into the lock box of Social Security.

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Right yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I mean that's that's the

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one we talked about that I guess last week or

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the last week that that that one's in. That one

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drives me crazy, and even now probably why not why

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not go back revisit it private partial privatization. But again,

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I think the fact that there's a cohort of individuals

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who really had enormous political sway, I e. The baby

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boomers are not going to want to risk anything that's

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going to jeopardize their their Social Security checks. Now again,

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they've paid the Social Security checks, They've been made these promises,

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so I don't I don't begrudge them that that that expectation. However,

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you have to understand that there are multiple generations coming

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up behind you, and that if there's going to be

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any kind of preservation of any of these entitlement programs

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going forward, that systemic changes are going to have to

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be made, and the sooner that they are made, the

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better it is for our country. Maybe there is going

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to be a small amount of payment of of pain

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your generation is going to have to handle baby boomers,

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But you know, I don't, But again I don't that

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that's not politically viable, right, So I don't know what

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the solution to this is other than just well the catastrophe.

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You have to cash, you know, cast a plan that

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is viable, that is debatable, that you sit there and say, okay,

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look at and and and I think that everybody has

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to take a cut, including Congress, because they have been

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living high on the hull and off the people's money.

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And here's that. Look at. We got to get this

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under control. Thirty eight trillion dollars in debt. You know,

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this is unsustainable, all this government waste. You know, we've

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got to be serious about it. And you got to

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quit trying to tar and feather elon Musk or Doze

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or anybody else who's concerned about it, because you see,

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the whole system is rigged. Is it is set up

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to produce this kind of corruption and inefficiency because it's

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all about people getting reelected all that money. When you

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look at it, like I asked you last week, I said,

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the thirty eight trillion dollars, how much of that thirty

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eight trillion dollars was to buy votes?

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Right?

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And most economists will say all of it. So so

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that tells you something right there that we're in debt

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because in both parties do this I get and I

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hate the both party thing, but that's what they do

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because the lifeblood for them, it's all about getting reelected.

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It's not about serving we the people. And that's what

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we're seeing right now. Even with this, I mean, there's

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such great revelation and chapters upon chapters that can be

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written about how the veil has been pulled back. Thank

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you very much, this latest government shutdown.

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Right, Yeah, yeah, I mean I like that. That's the

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fact that we just continue to move along in our

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day to day life and pair taxes and the government

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continues to operate. What what what really concerns me a

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lot in the past year has been the identification of

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you know, you could start with the low there is

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some low hanging fruit in this and that's fraud, waste

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for ag abuse. And you know, you're seeing that social

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security numbers were extended to illegal immigrants by the Biden administration.

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And people and people who weren't even born yet.

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Mike, how can you have social security? You're like, oh,

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my god, of course, and what's that? That's the amassment

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of political power so that these individuals can get on

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voter rolls and votes, et cetera. But okay, so you

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can't have let's start with the easy things. And it

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seems like at this point and I'm starting to lose

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faith in this. It's I was optimistic months ago that

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we could at least hey take the low hanging fruit

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of fraud and start to address that and save money there.

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But I want to see that there's some some movement

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with this that we can if people are enrolled in

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these programs, these entirement programs, that aren't entitled to be

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enrolled in those programs, get them off the free riders

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00:23:18.880 --> 00:23:22.759
in all those Social Security numbers. Get those off the books.

472
00:23:22.920 --> 00:23:26.599
For heaven's sakes, anybody who's getting Medicaid, who's who's who's

473
00:23:26.599 --> 00:23:31.240
ineligible for medicaid funding. Bring up the eligibility requirements for Medicaid.

474
00:23:31.279 --> 00:23:33.119
For heaven's sakes, you shouldn't be able to qualify it

475
00:23:33.160 --> 00:23:37.039
if you're an able bodied person, oh between twenty and fifty.

476
00:23:37.119 --> 00:23:38.960
Why should you? If you're if you're able to get

477
00:23:39.039 --> 00:23:41.000
up and move, you shouldn't be able to go get

478
00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:44.039
free Medicaid and make it harder to get to enroll

479
00:23:44.079 --> 00:23:47.440
in Medicaid. I've seen this. Enrolling in Medicaid's easy. It's

480
00:23:47.480 --> 00:23:49.279
just like a snap of the button and you're yeah,

481
00:23:49.559 --> 00:23:54.440
it's like, God, go go enough with this. So I think,

482
00:23:54.480 --> 00:23:56.359
as I say, I keep repeatingly saying, there's gonna have

483
00:23:56.359 --> 00:23:58.880
to be some pain, but there's also some common sense

484
00:23:58.920 --> 00:24:01.920
solutions that need to be implemented, or we're just gonna

485
00:24:02.000 --> 00:24:03.920
we're just going to continue going down this road where

486
00:24:03.960 --> 00:24:07.480
the future generations the outlook looks bleak for again, not

487
00:24:07.519 --> 00:24:10.759
necessarily Baby Boomers to a lesser extent. Maybe Generation X

488
00:24:10.759 --> 00:24:14.000
folks get through it, but certainly the millennials and the

489
00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:16.680
Gen zs are our generations coming up behind really need

490
00:24:16.720 --> 00:24:18.240
to have something left at the table.

491
00:24:18.759 --> 00:24:22.200
Well, there's a potential here for liberation, Mike, because you

492
00:24:22.279 --> 00:24:25.640
get them off these government subsidies and these handouts from

493
00:24:25.680 --> 00:24:27.839
the government where you're looking for the government to be

494
00:24:27.920 --> 00:24:31.559
your provider. Uh, you know you're not you're not really

495
00:24:31.599 --> 00:24:34.319
seeing this because it's all very subtle. But the fact

496
00:24:34.319 --> 00:24:36.960
of the matter is is you're beholden to the government.

497
00:24:36.960 --> 00:24:40.000
Look what the show again with the shutdown exposed all

498
00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:43.079
these people that were so beholden to the government that

499
00:24:43.400 --> 00:24:45.759
you know are in the fetal position. And wait a minute,

500
00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:48.960
you're a human being, You are a free agent that

501
00:24:49.039 --> 00:24:52.480
God has given you life, liberty, and the pursuit of

502
00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:57.160
happiness in alienable rights, God given rights. But you have surrendered,

503
00:24:57.319 --> 00:25:01.279
You've subordinated those rights for a vote to h to

504
00:25:01.440 --> 00:25:04.279
the Democratic Party, let's just say, or any other politician.

505
00:25:04.960 --> 00:25:07.559
I mean, and you have a large you have a

506
00:25:07.640 --> 00:25:10.519
large segment of the political class that's perfectly happy having

507
00:25:11.000 --> 00:25:16.240
the populace be in be utterly dependent upon their large s.

508
00:25:16.640 --> 00:25:19.480
Of course, if you just if you, just if you're

509
00:25:19.599 --> 00:25:22.880
Nancy Pelosi, you want millions of people curled up in

510
00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:25.079
the fetal position when they don't get their snapchecks, because

511
00:25:25.119 --> 00:25:27.240
then you can can assert control over them. And that's

512
00:25:27.319 --> 00:25:29.519
that's the end game of the left. That's always what

513
00:25:29.559 --> 00:25:32.319
we've been talking about low these many decades of what

514
00:25:32.440 --> 00:25:33.839
is the end game of the left? Well, the end

515
00:25:33.880 --> 00:25:35.119
game on the left is to be able to be

516
00:25:35.200 --> 00:25:37.759
in a position where they can just assert unlimited control

517
00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:41.319
over population. They want to keep you hooked on government dime.

518
00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:44.160
They want to keep you high or drunk or hooked

519
00:25:44.160 --> 00:25:47.000
on pornography or hooked on whatever sitting in front of

520
00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:49.960
your couch, utterly dependent on them because they want to

521
00:25:49.960 --> 00:25:52.039
control you. Uh, And so they and.

522
00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:55.759
That's really why there's no low hanging fruit. Mike. Yeah,

523
00:25:55.799 --> 00:25:58.160
so you and I see low hanging fruit because we

524
00:25:58.200 --> 00:26:02.640
operate in a different mindset. But the Democrats know that's hey,

525
00:26:02.839 --> 00:26:06.400
that's their constituents. There's no low hanging fruit. Yeah.

526
00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:09.279
Yeah. And the more the more you're dependent on them,

527
00:26:09.319 --> 00:26:12.000
the more you worry, I'm not going to get my snapcheck.

528
00:26:12.039 --> 00:26:14.039
You're gonna hit that button every week when it comes

529
00:26:14.039 --> 00:26:15.960
to blue if you don't have the card, if you

530
00:26:15.960 --> 00:26:18.279
don't get your whatever amount of money. And you see

531
00:26:18.279 --> 00:26:22.559
these scary things from a cultural perspective, the stories of

532
00:26:22.640 --> 00:26:25.759
the uber or the grocery store delivery guys. By the way,

533
00:26:25.799 --> 00:26:29.319
grocery store delivery guys who are delivering food on EBT cards.

534
00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:31.839
Can you imagine that you're using your EBT guard to

535
00:26:31.960 --> 00:26:34.119
order food to have a delivery person bring it to you,

536
00:26:34.319 --> 00:26:37.599
and the guy saying the story about oh, before you

537
00:26:37.599 --> 00:26:39.640
can tell the EBT cards got back in because now

538
00:26:39.680 --> 00:26:42.680
all I'm delivering is soda and chips, and so you're

539
00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:45.680
like soda and chips. So you're hooking people on these

540
00:26:45.799 --> 00:26:48.400
awful things for them too, we're the worst things to eat.

541
00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:52.039
And again, efforts are commendable from the Secretary of Health

542
00:26:52.079 --> 00:26:54.160
and Human Services to try to get this off.

543
00:26:54.279 --> 00:26:57.119
But oh yeah, and they're too they're too lazy. They

544
00:26:57.119 --> 00:26:58.599
can't even get in their own car and drive to

545
00:26:58.680 --> 00:27:00.079
the store. Now they got that.

546
00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:02.519
Or it's bad enough that you it's bed I mean,

547
00:27:02.559 --> 00:27:04.519
I guess it's you're on an EBT card. Okay, you're

548
00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:07.039
on an eb T card and you're but you're not

549
00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:10.759
You're you're using You're you're having the food delivered to you. Okay,

550
00:27:10.880 --> 00:27:11.920
that's okay.

551
00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:13.880
Well, what's what's next. You're gonna have somebody there cut

552
00:27:13.920 --> 00:27:16.119
it for you, and then and then and then.

553
00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:17.680
It's then the next thing is, Okay, you're on an

554
00:27:17.720 --> 00:27:20.359
eb T card, you're having the food delivered to you. Well,

555
00:27:20.359 --> 00:27:22.359
what kind of food do you have delivered to you? Okay?

556
00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:28.000
You know, oatmeal, oranges, bananas, you know water no, no, no, uh,

557
00:27:28.119 --> 00:27:31.920
Dorito's phantom juice, you know Fanta great, you know, just

558
00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:35.279
awful things. So it's like you've compounded the problem three

559
00:27:35.400 --> 00:27:37.200
times over. It's it's maddening.

560
00:27:37.599 --> 00:27:40.440
So exactly, well, well you know that that sets up

561
00:27:40.440 --> 00:27:43.680
the queue for healthcare, Mike, right, right, exactly, like we're

562
00:27:43.720 --> 00:27:45.359
talking about it then you.

563
00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:47.640
Have diabetics, then you have then you have Okay, well

564
00:27:47.640 --> 00:27:50.119
now everybody's now everybody's sick because they've been hooked on

565
00:27:50.160 --> 00:27:53.759
these awful foods, these processed foods for years, decades, from

566
00:27:53.799 --> 00:27:56.160
from the moment you're four or five years old to

567
00:27:56.200 --> 00:27:58.319
when you're thirty seven thirty eight years old, you're just

568
00:27:58.359 --> 00:28:01.039
eating nothing but crap. And then you're well, oh, wait

569
00:28:01.039 --> 00:28:03.000
a minute, I'm one hundred and fifty pounds overweight and

570
00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:04.799
I'm a diabetic. Now I have to go to the

571
00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:06.759
hospital and get Oh, it's it's.

572
00:28:06.839 --> 00:28:10.200
It's yeah, and you know what, and there's no relief

573
00:28:10.240 --> 00:28:13.519
for the taxpayer, Mike, No, When does the taxpayer gets

574
00:28:13.519 --> 00:28:15.599
to say, all right, look at hey, I invested in

575
00:28:15.640 --> 00:28:19.519
this person's health or you know, the welfare and now

576
00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:23.400
they turned it into healthcare and and and it's always,

577
00:28:23.480 --> 00:28:25.880
you know, as pat Riley would say, it's the disease

578
00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:27.319
of more you.

579
00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:30.599
Know, yeah, that was that's it's always it's funny, the interesting.

580
00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:32.680
That's the not to get too far afield, but this

581
00:28:33.160 --> 00:28:37.799
always the interesting conundrum we have as conservatives and free

582
00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:41.240
will people. It's it's like the smoker, right, the traditional

583
00:28:41.240 --> 00:28:45.240
smoker discussion well, you're free to smoke, right, Okay, who

584
00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:46.640
am I to say you're not free to go buy

585
00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:50.279
your cigarettes and smoke your cigarettes. But I don't want

586
00:28:50.279 --> 00:28:51.920
to be on the hook for pay for your lung

587
00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:54.920
cancer treatment in twenty years because you made the choice

588
00:28:54.960 --> 00:28:57.200
to smoke and you don't have any money to pay

589
00:28:57.240 --> 00:29:00.400
for your lung cancer treatment. You made that decision to smoke.

590
00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:02.359
But then I feel like, as a Christian, I'm like, well,

591
00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:04.880
I'm obligated to help the sick, So I don't want

592
00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:07.799
to see the person with one cancer suffer and die

593
00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:10.599
because they made the bad choice to smoke for twenty

594
00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:12.680
five years. But on the other hand, it's like my

595
00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:15.279
paternalism kicks in saying, well, you shouldn't be allowed to smoke,

596
00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:17.039
and if you make the choice of smoke, I shouldn't

597
00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:19.079
be on the hook for paying for your health care.

598
00:29:19.359 --> 00:29:23.079
So that's that's always the I always go grapple with that,

599
00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:25.079
that conflict in my way.

600
00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:29.519
Well, well, whether smoking or having sex outside of marriage

601
00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:32.559
and having babies. You know, we have this dependent class

602
00:29:32.599 --> 00:29:35.000
that says, you know, they've been raised in such a

603
00:29:35.000 --> 00:29:38.119
way to say well you got I don't and you

604
00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:42.559
must pay. You know, and and so what kind of

605
00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:47.079
citizenship are we developing here in this country. I mean,

606
00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:48.839
all you got to do is open your eyes and

607
00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:51.680
see why the socialists are rising. Right, We're going to

608
00:29:51.759 --> 00:29:54.440
leave it there for right now. To be continued. Mike

609
00:29:54.480 --> 00:29:56.759
O'Neil from Landmark Legal. Thank you, Michael, Take care of

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Well, good morning and welcome. Good to have you with us.

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Bill Martinez here, and we've got Raymond Harris going to

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be joining us in just a moment. Raymond's background highly

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successful mensor capitalists and architect, executive movie producer like the

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likes of I can only imagine, and the Jesus Revolution

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that we all love so much. As speaker and author,

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and we're going to be talking about enduring wealth, being

680
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rich in this world and the next. How about that?

681
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Raymond Harris. Welcome, Michelle. Good to have you with us.

682
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Thanks Bill, I appreciate you having me back. Thank you.

683
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Yeah, this is great. I mean to talk about, you know,

684
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the things that really matter. You know, what's really most important,

685
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certainly not the things of this world. This is all

686
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temporary and is as the Bible tells us, is rusting away, right.

687
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That's right. No, you know we can't take anything with us.

688
00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:27.079
And as I've said before, the twenties in our pocket

689
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on the plane to heaven don't work once we arrive.

690
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Exactly. Well, but as you say, though, you know, wealth

691
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in a Stewart's hands is powerful. I mean just that

692
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sentence alone, break that down. You know what true wealth

693
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is and what it is to be a steward.

694
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Well, I think that you have to go back to

695
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the to the reality that God owns everything and he

696
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entrusts it to us. And when God entrusts us wealth,

697
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we have to do something with it. And so I

698
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think wealth in the hands of a faith person is

699
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a very powerful thing because he can use use us

700
00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:07.599
in his kingdom to build his kingdom. And I think

701
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if we truly believe that we're eternal beings, then that

702
00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:13.440
ought to be our primary focus. We don't quit our

703
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:16.800
day jobs, of course, right. What we do is we

704
00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:20.800
realize that we're just simply caretakers of the master's money.

705
00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:24.360
Right. And when you think about wealth, particularly here in America,

706
00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:28.800
we're so spoiled and we don't even realize how wealthy

707
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:33.119
we are. Even even some who comparatively would think, well,

708
00:35:33.159 --> 00:35:35.559
I'm not very wealthy, but you know, compared to the

709
00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:37.880
rest of the world. You're pretty darn wealthy, aren't you.

710
00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:38.360
Oh?

711
00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:41.679
Absolutely. I mean I've been overseas a lot, and I've

712
00:35:41.679 --> 00:35:44.400
seen true poverty. In America. We have a lot of

713
00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:48.639
poor people, but in comparison, we don't have quite the

714
00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:51.760
poverty we see overseas. And so just what we have,

715
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:54.119
the resources we have, and the government help that we

716
00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:58.239
actually have in the US makes us wealthy compared to

717
00:35:58.960 --> 00:36:01.639
probably I would say a conservatively eighty percent of the

718
00:36:01.639 --> 00:36:04.079
rest of the world. So we do have a lot

719
00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:07.199
of a lot of wealth that we may not realize.

720
00:36:07.239 --> 00:36:10.199
We never have as much wealth as others. We can

721
00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:14.639
find people wealthier, but you know, in comparison, it doesn't

722
00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:16.880
really matter. It's what we do with it that counts.

723
00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:20.400
And so I think God trusts us wealth to use

724
00:36:20.440 --> 00:36:24.000
as his stewards, and he gives people different amounts of wealth.

725
00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:27.000
It doesn't matter the amount of wealth you have or

726
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:30.480
the amount of money that you that you make, it's

727
00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:31.880
what you do with it that really.

728
00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:37.480
Counts well, exactly. And again here just looking at America,

729
00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:41.960
because the growth of our country has been so historic,

730
00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:45.960
and you know, and because sometimes they go God, why us,

731
00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:48.119
I mean it could have been anybody.

732
00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:49.719
Right, yeah, absolutely, yeah, I.

733
00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:52.119
Mean, hey, look at you know Israel was your chosen people.

734
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:54.760
Why didn't you just stay with Israel? You know why America?

735
00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:58.280
And look what's happened in two hundred and fifty years.

736
00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:01.280
Well, I think to some extent that you've got to

737
00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:04.679
remember that our country was founded on biblical principles. We

738
00:37:04.719 --> 00:37:08.239
had different denominations and different faiths that came, but there

739
00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:11.559
were biblical principles. And when we apply biblical principles, they

740
00:37:11.639 --> 00:37:15.400
work regardless who actually applies them. So I think God

741
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:18.360
found faithful men and women that he could entrust his

742
00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:21.880
assets to in which they could then take care of

743
00:37:21.920 --> 00:37:23.679
the rest of the Kingdom on earth. And so I

744
00:37:23.719 --> 00:37:27.119
think that America has been blessed primarily through the faithfulness

745
00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:31.360
of our early forefathers and the faithfulness of men and

746
00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:34.719
women that have come behind that not only the believers,

747
00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:38.360
but the generous people. You don't have to be a

748
00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:41.760
Christian to be generous, but it is a great motivator.

749
00:37:41.840 --> 00:37:45.840
Those of us at are believers and Christians that love

750
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:51.880
Jesus will be generous because our heart is really pricked

751
00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:54.679
to beerous, to be the handsome feet. So I think

752
00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:57.559
America is blessed because we have been generous in the past.

753
00:37:58.199 --> 00:38:00.440
Whether we'll be blessed in the future will, I think,

754
00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:02.400
determined on how we take care of the rest.

755
00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:02.719
Of the world.

756
00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:05.400
Yeah. Going back to what you said initially, and that is,

757
00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:09.320
if you realize that your blessings come from God and

758
00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:11.920
that we're stewards, that it doesn't really belong to us.

759
00:38:12.280 --> 00:38:15.159
I mean, you know you think about that, Raymond. It's

760
00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:18.800
so liberating, right, because if you think that it's yours,

761
00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:21.800
then you're on the hamster wheel of life, right, just

762
00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:24.239
going like crazy trying to keep up with it.

763
00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:26.760
Yeah, No, that's absolutely true.

764
00:38:26.920 --> 00:38:27.119
You know.

765
00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:30.360
I think that we have a responsibility to take good gear,

766
00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:33.760
good care of things of which we've been, which we earn.

767
00:38:33.880 --> 00:38:36.880
You know, I think a lot of men might think, well,

768
00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:39.039
I'm a self made man because I pulled myself up

769
00:38:39.079 --> 00:38:42.239
by the bootstraps and I've made this money, and in

770
00:38:42.280 --> 00:38:45.000
some ways I've kind of had that attitude to a

771
00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:47.920
certain extent, having started from nothing and then built a

772
00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:51.440
big company. But I realized that there are a lot

773
00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:53.960
of hard working people that didn't have that opportunity. And

774
00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:57.119
if I want to be a computer geek in my

775
00:38:57.199 --> 00:39:00.000
garage and build a computer and become the world's richest man.

776
00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:02.639
And I don't think I could do that even if

777
00:39:02.639 --> 00:39:05.039
I wanted to. So I think there's a there's a

778
00:39:05.079 --> 00:39:07.760
part in which God plays that He entrusts that money

779
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:11.400
to others and gives us the ability to generate economic

780
00:39:11.480 --> 00:39:14.840
what I call economic engines, and they can be used

781
00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:18.239
for good, they can be used for evil. It just

782
00:39:18.280 --> 00:39:20.719
depends on the man or woman's heart.

783
00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:23.440
You know, Raymond, I like what God says is that

784
00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:29.280
he places you in a position to where wealth pursues you.

785
00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:31.639
You know, for me, being a West Coast boy growing

786
00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:34.280
up in California around the water, I saw a lot

787
00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:36.800
of surfers, and I saw the surfers who were in

788
00:39:36.840 --> 00:39:38.960
front of the wave where the wave was, you know,

789
00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:42.440
pushing them along. I saw surfers who were alongside the wave,

790
00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:44.880
and no matter how hard they paddle, they could never

791
00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:47.280
get in front of the wave. And if you were

792
00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:50.519
behind the wave, you were just observers of it all.

793
00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:54.719
And so you know, by God's mercy, his grace, he

794
00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:57.920
places us, he sets us apart to be in front

795
00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:02.519
of that wave to where wealth pursues us and I've

796
00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:05.880
always just seen that, just again coming from the west

797
00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:09.280
and near the water, and I'm thankful to God that

798
00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:11.480
he is the one that does that. And again it's

799
00:40:11.519 --> 00:40:14.440
quite liberating to realize that, Hey, if you're the one

800
00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:16.840
that thinks that you're doing it on your own, well

801
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:18.079
then there's never enough.

802
00:40:18.679 --> 00:40:22.800
Right, There'll never be enough. We can see that even

803
00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:26.079
in some of our richest people and even our politicians,

804
00:40:26.559 --> 00:40:29.679
they keep chasing after things. I will say this about

805
00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:33.239
the parables that Jesus taught regarding well, one of the parables,

806
00:40:33.239 --> 00:40:35.440
he was talking about how he trusted certain amounts to

807
00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:38.760
different stewards, and I thought it was always interesting. And

808
00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:41.400
I know that people have said it didn't seem fair

809
00:40:41.960 --> 00:40:44.800
that the guy that had the most was still given

810
00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:48.880
another talent from the one that did not use it well.

811
00:40:49.079 --> 00:40:51.159
And people say, well, that's not fair. He already had

812
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:55.159
most of the talents. Why did God give him the

813
00:40:55.199 --> 00:40:58.239
additional talent? And I thought that through, and I know

814
00:40:58.320 --> 00:41:02.119
some people probably say that it's not fair, but I

815
00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:04.920
would say in business, if I have an employee that

816
00:41:05.079 --> 00:41:08.719
excels and he does extremely well, why wouldn't I give

817
00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:10.880
him more to do if he could handle it? Because

818
00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:14.599
he's going to excel. So I think that sometimes people

819
00:41:14.679 --> 00:41:17.360
have wealth because they are faithful in the little stuff,

820
00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:19.360
and that they're entrusted with more and more as they

821
00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:21.800
go go along. We also know that when we go

822
00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:24.119
to heaven that we will be given even more for

823
00:41:24.239 --> 00:41:27.519
faithful on this earth, right exactly. Yeah, this is all

824
00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:30.679
a training ground, isn't it. Yeah, we're just in school,

825
00:41:31.199 --> 00:41:31.519
is it.

826
00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:31.880
Yeah?

827
00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:36.000
We graduated yet, Bill, we are still in school, my friend.

828
00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:39.840
Yeah, I'm with you on it. And every day more

829
00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:42.519
and more I just grow closer to God and love

830
00:41:42.599 --> 00:41:44.679
him more and thank him, you know, for the many

831
00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:49.159
blessings that He bestows upon us and the connections, you know,

832
00:41:49.239 --> 00:41:53.199
because it's not always by yourself, it's always you know, uh,

833
00:41:53.239 --> 00:41:55.920
there'll be other people who come into the orbit that

834
00:41:56.719 --> 00:41:58.639
you know, help affect the objective. Right.

835
00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:03.000
Absolutely, we can't get there alone. There's absolutely no way.

836
00:42:03.519 --> 00:42:06.400
And I believe that God and trusts us friendship so

837
00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:08.360
that we can work together in the kingdom. I think

838
00:42:08.360 --> 00:42:10.599
that's one of the most important things that I've learned,

839
00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:14.119
is that you build God's kingdom with your friends, right exactly.

840
00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:17.599
Well, God's a relationship type God, and this is what

841
00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:20.159
makes them so unique because a lot of other religious

842
00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:24.360
religions they don't have that kind of relationship. They don't

843
00:42:24.440 --> 00:42:28.400
quite understand it. They think it's you know, you are

844
00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:30.199
a rock, you are an island. You know, as the

845
00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:33.960
song would go, You're in this great country that allows

846
00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:36.880
you to exercise the giftings and talents that God's blessed

847
00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:39.079
you with. So it's such a degree and connect with

848
00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:41.159
others doing that are like minded. Right.

849
00:42:41.719 --> 00:42:41.880
Oh.

850
00:42:41.920 --> 00:42:45.000
Absolutely. I've been to Africa a lot, probably twenty times,

851
00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:49.480
and I've met many hard working men who have nothing

852
00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:53.079
and they still work hard, and you wonder, that doesn't

853
00:42:53.119 --> 00:42:55.280
seem fair. And then I kind of realized that maybe

854
00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:58.760
God is not fair. He's just and he's generous, but

855
00:42:59.199 --> 00:43:01.559
we may not see him as being fair because he

856
00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:04.559
chooses with whom to entrust his wealth to. But he

857
00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:06.760
gives us the building to generate wealth. And when we

858
00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:10.840
are are in future kingdom, which would be after we

859
00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:13.320
pass away from this earth, the amount of money is

860
00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:15.880
never the issue. It's always going to be the faithfulness.

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864
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946
00:47:48.159 --> 00:47:49.679
and saying, hey, you got to get back here. We

947
00:47:49.719 --> 00:47:53.559
got we got to talk. Raymond's an architect, executive, movie producer,

948
00:47:53.639 --> 00:47:56.360
and a venture capitalists in God's Kingdom. And I like

949
00:47:56.440 --> 00:47:59.800
that in God's Kingdom because it's about His kingdom and

950
00:47:59.800 --> 00:48:01.000
his kingdom coming.

951
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:04.760
Right, That's absolutely right. Like I said earlier in the session,

952
00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:06.920
I think I could be a self made man, but

953
00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:09.559
in reality, it is God That's given us ability to

954
00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:12.760
be wise and to be able to generate income and

955
00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:15.199
to be able to generate wealth. It's really a gift

956
00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:16.880
of God the ability to do.

957
00:48:16.920 --> 00:48:20.079
That well, and even even to be where you are.

958
00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:24.000
I mean, he could have what happened if you if

959
00:48:24.039 --> 00:48:26.719
you grew up, if you were in Nigeria, you know,

960
00:48:27.360 --> 00:48:29.440
I'm sure God would have a different plan for you there.

961
00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:34.440
But here, I mean, you're in this great country that

962
00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:37.639
allows you to exercise the giftings and talents that God's

963
00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:40.199
blessed you with so such a degree and connect with

964
00:48:40.239 --> 00:48:42.280
others doing that are like minded. Right.

965
00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:43.000
Oh.

966
00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:46.119
Absolutely. I've been to Africa a lot, probably twenty times,

967
00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:48.719
and the amount of money is never the issue. It's

968
00:48:48.760 --> 00:48:51.360
always going to be the faithfulness. And I'm looking forward

969
00:48:51.400 --> 00:48:53.480
to sitting at the table with the widow that had

970
00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:57.079
two mites. I want to hear her story exactly. She

971
00:48:57.320 --> 00:49:00.599
be so bold in which to give way all that

972
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:03.639
she had to live on for the kingdom. I don't

973
00:49:03.719 --> 00:49:06.440
understand that, but I'm looking forward to being at her table.

974
00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:10.440
Yeah, exactly, because I mean, you imagine the depth of

975
00:49:10.440 --> 00:49:15.280
her joy I hear. You know, living in this consuming

976
00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:20.800
oriented country that we live in, everything's about consumption, but

977
00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:24.119
we're not very happy. And you go to third world

978
00:49:24.119 --> 00:49:26.440
countries and you see these people living out of a

979
00:49:26.519 --> 00:49:29.320
shack and you think, oh, what a miserable life they

980
00:49:29.400 --> 00:49:32.320
must have, and they're happier than in their kids and

981
00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:35.280
their family and everything like that, and you're going, what's missing?

982
00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:37.239
You know, my kids they want a bike, to get

983
00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:39.199
a bike, They want to you know, the latest cell phone.

984
00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:41.199
They got the cell phone, shoes, Tennis shoes is not

985
00:49:41.199 --> 00:49:43.280
a problem. These kids are running around barefoot and they're

986
00:49:43.280 --> 00:49:45.119
happy as all get out, playing with a rock and

987
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:45.559
a stick.

988
00:49:46.039 --> 00:49:49.800
Yeah, no, that's true. I've observed. I've observed that many times,

989
00:49:49.960 --> 00:49:53.320
and so I think real joy comes has to come

990
00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:56.559
from the heart, and the heart is transformed through salvation

991
00:49:56.719 --> 00:49:59.840
in Christ, and that's what gives us the true joy.

992
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:02.119
You know, we can be happy about certain stuff. I

993
00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:04.400
can be happy if I get new clothes, but it's

994
00:50:04.400 --> 00:50:06.400
not the same as joy. And so I think it's

995
00:50:06.679 --> 00:50:10.159
deep seated joy that God gives individuals that come to Him. Now,

996
00:50:10.159 --> 00:50:13.440
I do know that there's not a lot of happiness

997
00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:16.960
and joy in extreme poverty overseas, if they don't have

998
00:50:17.079 --> 00:50:19.599
some reason to have joy, and that would be because

999
00:50:19.599 --> 00:50:22.000
they know and love God. Yeah, because it is a

1000
00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:25.039
misery and it's awful. You know, paulverary is not a

1001
00:50:25.079 --> 00:50:28.559
good thing. And some Christians espousal was better to be

1002
00:50:28.559 --> 00:50:30.719
poor than rich, And I would say no, I think

1003
00:50:31.039 --> 00:50:34.000
the position is wherever God puts you, that's the best

1004
00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:34.719
position to be.

1005
00:50:34.719 --> 00:50:38.079
In amen, I agree. You know you said that you

1006
00:50:38.119 --> 00:50:41.760
once wondered if you missed the turn by not going

1007
00:50:41.840 --> 00:50:46.760
into vocational ministry. What finally convinced you that architecture was

1008
00:50:46.800 --> 00:50:48.960
the right road and vehicle for stewardship.

1009
00:50:49.199 --> 00:50:52.199
Well, I struggled as a high school student to try

1010
00:50:52.199 --> 00:50:54.039
to figure out what I was going to do. I

1011
00:50:54.079 --> 00:50:57.800
had several options to either wrestle in college, go to

1012
00:50:57.800 --> 00:51:00.000
the Naval Academy do a lot of things. I said.

1013
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:03.480
Now with my grandmother, who was a godly woman, I said, Grandma,

1014
00:51:03.519 --> 00:51:04.000
I don't.

1015
00:51:03.840 --> 00:51:04.320
Know what to do.

1016
00:51:04.400 --> 00:51:06.480
I have options, I just don't know what to do.

1017
00:51:06.519 --> 00:51:07.719
And she says, well, what do you want to do?

1018
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:09.039
And I know, what are you good at and what

1019
00:51:09.039 --> 00:51:12.079
do you have joy in doing? And I said, well,

1020
00:51:12.119 --> 00:51:14.360
I like drawing. I like that kind of stuff. I'm

1021
00:51:14.519 --> 00:51:17.960
i'm I'm artistic and I like it. And she says, well,

1022
00:51:18.159 --> 00:51:21.480
why don't you pursue what you really like and see

1023
00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:24.199
if it doesn't it doesn't work out for you. And

1024
00:51:24.280 --> 00:51:27.760
so I went to the University of Oklahoma to study

1025
00:51:27.880 --> 00:51:33.079
architecture because that's what my grandmother had encouraged me to do.

1026
00:51:33.159 --> 00:51:35.760
Because I liked it. I did really well in architecture

1027
00:51:35.800 --> 00:51:38.119
school because I liked it and I was good at it.

1028
00:51:38.679 --> 00:51:41.840
But I was also around a lot of Christians that said, hey,

1029
00:51:41.880 --> 00:51:44.519
if you're all in with your faith, you should really

1030
00:51:44.519 --> 00:51:47.639
go into the ministry. You should either go to seminary

1031
00:51:47.760 --> 00:51:50.079
or you should go into a ministry because that's the

1032
00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:55.599
highest and best use of your life. And I applied.

1033
00:51:55.679 --> 00:51:58.360
And when I applied and was accepted to go on

1034
00:51:58.440 --> 00:52:02.039
staff with campus crusade, and yet I did not have

1035
00:52:02.280 --> 00:52:04.719
a confirmation of that, nor did I have joy in

1036
00:52:04.760 --> 00:52:08.159
doing that. So I decided not to go on staff

1037
00:52:08.199 --> 00:52:11.119
with a ministry, not to go to seminary, but to

1038
00:52:11.159 --> 00:52:15.440
continue my education in architecture. And as a result of that,

1039
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:17.960
I still had a little bit of guilt because of

1040
00:52:18.039 --> 00:52:22.039
how I was made to feel with certain people that

1041
00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:24.760
I hung around with. And so was I a second

1042
00:52:24.760 --> 00:52:26.719
class system by being a businessman.

1043
00:52:26.800 --> 00:52:27.880
And finally I.

1044
00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:32.719
Relate that to trying to drive my car through looking

1045
00:52:32.719 --> 00:52:35.239
through the riverview mirror? Should I have? Should I have

1046
00:52:35.320 --> 00:52:36.280
done something else?

1047
00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:37.440
Lord?

1048
00:52:37.480 --> 00:52:40.719
After twenty five years of me practicing architecture, building a

1049
00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:44.000
successful firm, being involved in ministry by supporting them and

1050
00:52:44.239 --> 00:52:46.719
on committees and on boards and all that stuff, I

1051
00:52:46.760 --> 00:52:50.280
still did I should I have gone full time? And

1052
00:52:50.320 --> 00:52:54.960
the Lord says, hey, drive through the windshield. Know where

1053
00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:58.079
I'm taking you. You're off right road. Just look ahead.

1054
00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:00.880
You know you've been on the right road the whole time.

1055
00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:03.360
So quit looking through the mirror. And so what I

1056
00:53:03.400 --> 00:53:06.320
realized that God had created me to be a steward

1057
00:53:06.320 --> 00:53:09.880
of his kingdom, that architecture was the economic engine in

1058
00:53:09.920 --> 00:53:12.679
which I could do that exactly. And I love being

1059
00:53:12.719 --> 00:53:14.280
an architect, don't get me wrong. I did it for

1060
00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:18.400
forty years, so it was a great, great career for me.

1061
00:53:18.960 --> 00:53:21.920
Yeah, excellent. Yeah, that you do in your sleep? Right?

1062
00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:26.480
Yeah? Yeah, my wife Sometimes what are you talking to?

1063
00:53:26.639 --> 00:53:26.920
Aila?

1064
00:53:26.960 --> 00:53:28.800
I was going through a building. Again, I don't know.

1065
00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:35.960
Exactly. Well, you know you define firm leadership is rain making, protecting,

1066
00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:39.119
and nurturing. Can you share a concrete example of each?

1067
00:53:39.159 --> 00:53:42.440
And why so few people naturally do all three?

1068
00:53:43.119 --> 00:53:46.119
Absolutely? I ran a firm for thirty seven years, and

1069
00:53:46.159 --> 00:53:48.519
I hired many employees over that time. I probably had

1070
00:53:48.559 --> 00:53:51.679
about three hundred and three hundred and fifty young men

1071
00:53:51.679 --> 00:53:54.840
and women come through the firm. You can't manage or

1072
00:53:54.960 --> 00:53:57.840
run a firm all by yourself, so I realized that

1073
00:53:58.159 --> 00:54:00.920
I had to look for guys to help me do that.

1074
00:54:01.239 --> 00:54:03.079
And so there were certain guys that wanted to be

1075
00:54:03.079 --> 00:54:04.719
a boss. They want to have a nameplate on their

1076
00:54:04.760 --> 00:54:06.599
door and say, hey, I've got a nameplate on my

1077
00:54:06.800 --> 00:54:08.920
on my desk, and I'm the boss. Tell you what

1078
00:54:09.000 --> 00:54:11.760
to do and you go do it. And then I said, well,

1079
00:54:12.039 --> 00:54:15.000
that's not the kind of guy I want. And then

1080
00:54:15.039 --> 00:54:16.719
there would be the kind of person that was really

1081
00:54:16.719 --> 00:54:20.159
good at managing. So they would manage, manage, manage, and

1082
00:54:20.199 --> 00:54:21.679
do this and do that, and they would do what

1083
00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:25.000
they're told, but they wouldn't really lead, they wouldn't step

1084
00:54:25.119 --> 00:54:27.679
out so that others would really follow. They would just

1085
00:54:28.039 --> 00:54:30.679
manage people. And I realized, you know what, if you

1086
00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:32.400
really want to run a firm, and if you really

1087
00:54:32.400 --> 00:54:34.400
want to be an owner and a firm, you had

1088
00:54:34.400 --> 00:54:36.840
to not only know how to manage, but then you

1089
00:54:36.960 --> 00:54:39.119
had to protect the firm. And by that I mean

1090
00:54:39.559 --> 00:54:42.159
protect the firm from bad people outside the firm and

1091
00:54:42.320 --> 00:54:45.239
from inside the firm. Sometimes I have employees that are

1092
00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:48.280
you know, are not happy and they're grumblers and they

1093
00:54:48.400 --> 00:54:50.679
create havoc. I also realized, and not only do you

1094
00:54:50.719 --> 00:54:53.159
protect the firm, but if you don't bring in work,

1095
00:54:53.840 --> 00:54:58.000
rain bake, you don't in business. Right, So then I said, well,

1096
00:54:58.119 --> 00:54:59.960
you know, the person has to be able to generate

1097
00:55:00.199 --> 00:55:02.199
business and to protect the firm. And then what's the

1098
00:55:02.239 --> 00:55:05.000
third part. I realized that they have to encourage people

1099
00:55:05.199 --> 00:55:07.840
to be good employees because if you have a constant

1100
00:55:07.920 --> 00:55:10.880
revolving door employees, you can never get traction. And whatever

1101
00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:14.159
you do exactly So when I looked at other men

1102
00:55:14.239 --> 00:55:16.639
and women that I thought who would be my partners

1103
00:55:16.719 --> 00:55:19.599
or who would be a take caretaker of the firm,

1104
00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:23.840
what I called the stewards I called my owners with

1105
00:55:23.920 --> 00:55:26.960
me that they were actually shepherds of the of the flock.

1106
00:55:27.400 --> 00:55:29.800
And I would say, you got shepherd the flock. This

1107
00:55:29.960 --> 00:55:34.239
shepherd protects, provides, and he nurtures the flock. And so

1108
00:55:34.360 --> 00:55:37.159
that was my philosophy with people that came to work

1109
00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:39.519
for me if they were to become owners or leaders

1110
00:55:39.519 --> 00:55:41.639
of the firm. So those are the three things I

1111
00:55:41.679 --> 00:55:44.079
would use to judge had to have all three, But

1112
00:55:44.159 --> 00:55:48.119
you didn't have to have strengths in all three. In words,

1113
00:55:48.239 --> 00:55:49.800
you could be a better rain maker than you are

1114
00:55:49.840 --> 00:55:51.960
a nurturer. And that's fine, but you need to have

1115
00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:52.599
all three.

1116
00:55:53.000 --> 00:55:55.320
Yeah, just let me let me show you Psalm twenty

1117
00:55:55.320 --> 00:55:57.639
three and tell me what that means to you. Right, yeah,

1118
00:55:57.840 --> 00:56:02.599
exactly right. And we got about a minute left here.

1119
00:56:02.599 --> 00:56:04.599
I wish we had more time. I always enjoyed this

1120
00:56:04.679 --> 00:56:07.880
time we have together. Thank you so appreciate your experience.

1121
00:56:08.480 --> 00:56:10.119
I'll come back when I'm sober. How's that?

1122
00:56:10.360 --> 00:56:10.519
Oh?

1123
00:56:10.599 --> 00:56:17.159
Stop it? Number one? What is the number one thing?

1124
00:56:17.199 --> 00:56:19.079
You would tell your grandchildren.

1125
00:56:18.679 --> 00:56:21.000
Well, the number one most important thing that I learned,

1126
00:56:21.000 --> 00:56:23.119
and I learned it ten or twelve years ago, was

1127
00:56:23.199 --> 00:56:25.719
to learn what it means to love Jesus and abide

1128
00:56:25.960 --> 00:56:29.320
with him. And abiding doesn't mean just a quick devotional

1129
00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:32.800
or a quick prayer. It means a continual dwelling with

1130
00:56:32.840 --> 00:56:35.760
someone that you love. If my grandchildren will learn to

1131
00:56:35.840 --> 00:56:39.000
love God and stick with him and to abide with

1132
00:56:39.079 --> 00:56:41.639
him and spend time with him, then I think all

1133
00:56:41.679 --> 00:56:43.760
these other things will fall into place. I think we

1134
00:56:44.360 --> 00:56:46.239
put a lot of guardrails up in our lives to

1135
00:56:46.280 --> 00:56:48.760
keep us from sinning. But if we love the one

1136
00:56:48.800 --> 00:56:51.960
that loves us so much that we will stick with him,

1137
00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:55.400
then our heart will change. And that's a bigger thing

1138
00:56:55.480 --> 00:56:58.320
than just preventing sin. So that's what I would tell

1139
00:56:58.360 --> 00:56:59.360
my little grandkids.

1140
00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:01.400
That's true wealth, isn't it.

1141
00:57:01.679 --> 00:57:06.960
Yeah? Absolutely, fighting with Christ is the most important wealth

1142
00:57:07.000 --> 00:57:09.679
that we could possess. Yes, sir Gosh Raymond.

1143
00:57:09.679 --> 00:57:11.519
You know with all that you've gone through, I mean

1144
00:57:11.559 --> 00:57:14.480
your experience in life and you know, maybe going into

1145
00:57:14.480 --> 00:57:20.760
full time ministry, architect, very successful company, movie producer, a

1146
00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:23.320
venture capitalist. I mean, do you like pinch yourself in

1147
00:57:23.360 --> 00:57:24.960
the middle of the night and go, wow, I can't

1148
00:57:24.960 --> 00:57:27.840
believe you know, God, what a ride you took me on.

1149
00:57:28.039 --> 00:57:31.039
Right, Well, that's true, but if you ask my wife,

1150
00:57:31.159 --> 00:57:35.639
she would not think I'm so cool. So you know,

1151
00:57:35.880 --> 00:57:39.000
it just evolves, evolves over time. We built an economic

1152
00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:41.360
engine to the firm, which gave us capital to build

1153
00:57:41.400 --> 00:57:44.039
other economic engines. And that's what we did, and we

1154
00:57:44.440 --> 00:57:45.440
built it with our friends.

1155
00:57:45.960 --> 00:57:48.280
So well, guys, shall tell you what a blessing? Huh,

1156
00:57:48.360 --> 00:57:49.880
what more? What more could you want?

1157
00:57:50.119 --> 00:57:52.760
Well, you don't mess around with your friends. So if

1158
00:57:52.760 --> 00:57:54.559
you can find friends that you can do life with,

1159
00:57:54.599 --> 00:57:55.400
it's pretty good.

1160
00:57:55.800 --> 00:57:56.119
That's it.

1161
00:57:56.280 --> 00:57:56.639
Amen.

1162
00:57:57.000 --> 00:57:59.920
Raymond Harris has been our guest. Raymond is always appreciated,

1163
00:58:00.239 --> 00:58:03.320
and congratulations on the book. And the book still available and.

1164
00:58:03.400 --> 00:58:06.239
During Wealth, absolutely you can get anywhere books are sold

1165
00:58:06.280 --> 00:58:10.679
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1166
00:58:10.719 --> 00:58:12.119
out there, so you.

1167
00:58:12.039 --> 00:58:12.719
Want to check it out.

1168
00:58:12.800 --> 00:58:15.719
Everyone to have it, buy it, read it, and give

1169
00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:16.519
it to their friends.

1170
00:58:16.840 --> 00:58:18.239
I'll tell you, if you want to be rich in

1171
00:58:18.280 --> 00:58:20.039
this world and the next you want to get your

1172
00:58:20.039 --> 00:58:22.760
hands on this book and during Wealth from Raymond Harris, Raymond,

1173
00:58:22.760 --> 00:58:23.880
thank you, so much for being with us.

1174
00:58:23.880 --> 00:58:25.480
Take care, God blessed me absolutely.

1175
00:58:25.480 --> 00:58:29.239
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you with us. Also, we've got doctor Gilda Carl joining us.

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She's the spokesperson for the International Council of Men and Boys,

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author of Real Man, Don't Go Woke, the book they

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would not publish The Truth That Must be Told? Uh Dot, Carl,

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I gotta tell you, our old show is premised on

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pursuing the truth, no matter where it leads. And I

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love the fact that you say it is the truth

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that must be told because the truth has been squealshed

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for a number of decades, and voices like yours are

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so critical right now to really, I guess we calibrate

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our mindset here in America because Americas have been so

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gas lit and led to that up is down and

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down is up?

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Right now, well, look what happened to New York exactly.

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We have we have a new mayor who's a socialist

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here in the United States of America based on capitalism,

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and then we have this.

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Yes, so watch out, everybody.

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There's a lot of trickery going on and false narratives

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that you are going to be hearing.

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Well, we've been force fed deception for a number of decades,

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and so We've been kind of conditioned for this particular moment.

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It just didn't happen overnight. It's been piecemeal, and then

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here we are. We're open to or these young kids,

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especially in New Yorkers. I mean, of all things, if

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you'd have told me New York would fold like this,

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I thought, never in a million years.

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Right.

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Well, it's not so much the young men, it's more

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the young women. Yes, And that's the shock of all shocks.

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And that's why I am so grateful to be the spokesperson,

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the female spokesperson for the International Council for Men and Boys,

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because I am an anomaly. You would expect a man

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to be defending men and boys, but this has so

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affected women and girls as well that somebody had to

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stand up. And since I wrote real men don't go woke,

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they grabbed me and they said, please come and be

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our spokesperson.

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So what you're saying is absolutely the truth.

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Our friend, doctor Warren Ferrell, you may.

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Know I love him. Yeah, he's my friend.

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He's such a dear man. You know, when he was

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so involved with the women's movement, he woke up one

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day and said, gosh, I'm doing all this stuff for girls,

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But who are my girls going to marry?

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Right to your point exactly.

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Yeah, We have been on the phone a lot, Warren

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and I, and it all boils down to the same problem.

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First of all, we have men in crisis right now,

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and that's what my book is all about. Not only

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are they in crisis, but they're so far gone that

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they are taking their own lives. Male suicides are four

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times greater than those of women.

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Then you combine that with the decreasing testosterone, the thinning

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of the Y chromosome I mean, which will make men

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disappear off the face of the earth eventually. The fact

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is also that they're going through depression and loneliness, and

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there is nobody.

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Around to help men.

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We hear, we have been hearing for years and years

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and years.

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That women are in trouble.

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We want our women to be to have equal rights.

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Not only have they had, have we had as women

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equal rights. But now what I have uncovered is such

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meanness on the parts of females toward men that it's

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amazing as to what is happening today. We hear females

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denigrating men. We hear female mothers talking poorly about male children.

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I did a book signing for real, men, don't go

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woke in Scottsdale. That's a well to do area. This

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is where I live and everybody, you know, my book

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signings usually get ten people, twenty people if you're lucky. Well,

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we had a mob scene. Men and women had attended.

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They had to open the doors so that people could

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stand outside and hear what I had to say. It

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was a madhouse and all my books had sold out.

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There is such a thirst. And what I was saying

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was male suicide rates have skyrocketed, but it's crawling down

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to our boys now as well. And I said, it

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goes as low as ten year old boys committing suicide.

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And you say, what does a ten year old boy

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have to commit suicide about? But we all went home,

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We all had the books. Everybody had a lovely time.

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I got a phone call the next day from a woman.

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She said, my best friend, her son, he was all

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of thirteen years old. He was found hanging in his home.

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This is in scotstill well to do area where people

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are highly educated.

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There's no excuse for this. I'm sorry.

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There is no excuse for this anywhere in any civilized nation.

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Yeah, you know, doctor Carl, you know the encouraging aspect

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of all this. Yes, this is happening, This is real

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because of these outside influences in our culture. The fact

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is we've all been designed with a specific identity, so

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we're not looking for some you know, incredible miracle to occur,

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some quantum leap. It's just boys discovering themselves that they are.

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You know, they're there for the adventure, enjoying life, being active.

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And even for these young girls, they need to realize

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not to surrender their beauty because this process of becoming

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mean they lose their beauty, don't they.

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Oh?

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Oh boy, you have just opened a canon word for me.

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Oh, I could talk about this four years, go on

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and on and on about this. I wrote a book,

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This is my nineteenth book, and it was I don't

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know how for years and years the top publishers had

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told me, you must not write self help for women.

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For men only.

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Women read these things. And I said, but I have

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a book that is for men's health. That's all I'm

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concentrating on men's health.

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And what I have seen and all.

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The research this is heavily researched, this book, and all

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that I have seen is suggesting that men's health is

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not doing well, and they, the publisher.

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Said no. But then when I handed the manuscript.

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To a very high powerful publicist to get this thing

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agented and sold to the big publishers with whom I

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have had books published in the past, and I was

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told they will not publish an anti woke book bill

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I had this book with a different title.

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As soon as I heard that, I said.

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Well, screw that, I am putting woke in the title

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and they can come after me now directly because I'm

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not kidding around mannering crisis and they're going to have

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to hear this. And if it's from a woman, it's

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that much more potent because we are the recipients of

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what's happening as we interact with our men.

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So that's what I did.

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I took total control of this book and it's doing

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very well. Newsmax called it a rising bestseller twice already.

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Yes, well, you know you are bringing some fresh air

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to a demographic that has been longing for oxygen. They

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have been suffocated by the culture and the mean media

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and all that's going on, and we've got to go

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to break here. Doctor Guild, Carl and so I want to,

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you know, go back and maybe consider the genesis of

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what brought us to this place right now where you know,

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boyser I mean the suicide rate. I mean, I'm I'm,

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I know the suicide rate was up, but I didn't

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realize it was so high.

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It's terrifying. And even President Trump quoted that statistics, that's statistic.

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I had sent him a copy of the book, so

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maybe he got it from here.

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With you nineteen minutes after the top of the hour

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right now. She's a spokesperson for the International Council of

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Men and Boys. Yes, she you heard me right, author

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of Real Men Don't go woke the book. They would

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not publish the truth and must be told Doctor Giddlcarl

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is with us, Doctor Carl, let's talk about how we

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01:13:33.079 --> 01:13:35.640
got here. I mean, because you look back and gosh,

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01:13:35.520 --> 01:13:38.039
when we were growing up, it was father knows Best.

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There was a lot of affirmation about the male figure

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01:13:41.840 --> 01:13:45.640
in the family orientation. And then all of a sudden,

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01:13:45.880 --> 01:13:50.039
you know, seventies eighties come in and there was a direct,

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01:13:50.319 --> 01:13:52.800
you know, full throttle attack on men.

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Yes, well we saw father knows Best as we were

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01:13:57.279 --> 01:14:02.840
growing up, and uh, we watched this take place while

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01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:07.159
women were in the shadows yet doing everything to support

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01:14:07.239 --> 01:14:08.239
everything so that.

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01:14:09.920 --> 01:14:16.560
So that this could work. Well, women were thinking.

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01:14:16.680 --> 01:14:19.279
Well, wow, I don't want to be in the shadows anymore,

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01:14:19.520 --> 01:14:22.319
and so they started to organize and they started to

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01:14:22.359 --> 01:14:26.880
speak up. But what has happened is is that some

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01:14:26.960 --> 01:14:34.000
of these women, many of these women have grown like monsters,

1451
01:14:34.720 --> 01:14:41.239
thinking that they should replace the men who were cruel

1452
01:14:41.840 --> 01:14:46.279
and impossible to deal with in the past. Suddenly the

1453
01:14:46.359 --> 01:14:51.479
women have taken their place. Now today, men are waking up,

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01:14:51.600 --> 01:14:54.199
walking out their door and being called toxic for just

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01:14:54.239 --> 01:14:58.640
being a man. And one man from Belgium got in

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01:14:58.680 --> 01:15:02.279
touch with me after he saw my book and he said, yeah,

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01:15:02.279 --> 01:15:05.880
I know I'm a man, but now all this toxicity,

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01:15:05.960 --> 01:15:08.800
I am sick of it. I can't deal with this anymore.

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01:15:09.039 --> 01:15:13.560
And I am now declaring myself non binary. That's not

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01:15:13.640 --> 01:15:17.640
an answer. Yeah, nor is the answer. Because I speak

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01:15:17.680 --> 01:15:21.000
to TikTok guys. I speak to guys on TikTok, so

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01:15:21.119 --> 01:15:23.680
that's man on the street. They are talking to me.

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01:15:24.079 --> 01:15:26.960
These guys wouldn't talk to anybody. They are talking to me.

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01:15:27.119 --> 01:15:30.359
Many of them have camouflaged identities zoro.

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01:15:30.279 --> 01:15:31.000
One, two three.

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01:15:31.039 --> 01:15:33.640
I can't talk to you know, but they are saying.

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01:15:33.880 --> 01:15:37.439
We are pissed off, we are angry, we are we

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01:15:37.560 --> 01:15:43.319
have had enough. We've lost our children in court custody cases.

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01:15:43.600 --> 01:15:48.039
We have fought to see our children more than once

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01:15:48.279 --> 01:15:53.000
every two weekends. We are fighting and fighting and fighting,

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01:15:53.039 --> 01:15:56.560
and now we can't even afford to start another family

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01:15:57.000 --> 01:16:00.840
because we are paying through the nose. We know these men,

1473
01:16:01.399 --> 01:16:05.479
we have spoken to these men, and this is where

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01:16:05.520 --> 01:16:09.039
it's at now. Women have taken over the place of

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01:16:09.119 --> 01:16:12.399
the toxicity, and now we're dealing with toxic women.

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01:16:13.279 --> 01:16:16.159
So this is all part of the evolution of the

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01:16:16.600 --> 01:16:22.279
great feminization of our society and which you say is

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01:16:22.399 --> 01:16:26.920
leading the social collapse, which it looks like the strongholds

1479
01:16:26.960 --> 01:16:29.199
and the pillars that held up our society are all

1480
01:16:29.239 --> 01:16:30.279
compromised right now.

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01:16:30.640 --> 01:16:32.840
I'm afraid so, Bill, I'm afraid so.

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01:16:33.880 --> 01:16:36.680
And that's why it's all that much more important for

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01:16:36.760 --> 01:16:40.159
me to get out there and talk talk, talk about

1484
01:16:40.199 --> 01:16:41.640
what this is doing to.

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01:16:41.760 --> 01:16:43.720
All of us. Women come to me.

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01:16:44.079 --> 01:16:47.960
I come to my website doctor Gilda dot com, d

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R g I L d a dot com.

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01:16:50.439 --> 01:16:55.199
You will see how men and women have spoken.

1489
01:16:55.199 --> 01:16:59.399
About what is going on, what is happening, why we

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01:16:59.520 --> 01:17:01.840
have come to this point.

1491
01:17:01.760 --> 01:17:03.199
And what we must do.

1492
01:17:03.960 --> 01:17:08.239
And you will see the men who are just falling apart,

1493
01:17:08.880 --> 01:17:12.840
committing suicide, wanting to commit suicide, thinking there is no

1494
01:17:13.039 --> 01:17:13.800
hope for them.

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01:17:14.439 --> 01:17:14.560
Right.

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01:17:14.680 --> 01:17:16.039
We can't leave men.

1497
01:17:16.000 --> 01:17:18.760
Like this, Yeah, Dodge, Carl. You know some people would

1498
01:17:18.800 --> 01:17:21.680
say in a in a kind of I don't know,

1499
01:17:22.159 --> 01:17:24.880
cynical sort of way, that oh, it's all about sex.

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01:17:24.920 --> 01:17:27.039
That's what some people tell me. Bill, It's just all

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01:17:27.039 --> 01:17:28.840
about sex. I go you have no idea.

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01:17:29.439 --> 01:17:33.039
It's not what sex. You mean the act of sex?

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01:17:33.319 --> 01:17:33.960
Yeah, I'm.

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01:17:35.640 --> 01:17:37.439
No, No, I'm talking about I'm talking about the act

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01:17:37.439 --> 01:17:40.239
of sex because because that's what's happened. You know, men

1506
01:17:40.279 --> 01:17:43.520
have been men have been reduced to an act instead of.

1507
01:17:44.439 --> 01:17:46.960
No, you know what it was an act of sex

1508
01:17:47.000 --> 01:17:49.479
that was that they were held responsible for.

1509
01:17:49.840 --> 01:17:51.520
Was that Harvey Weinstein's p.

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01:17:51.760 --> 01:17:54.199
Diddy and the men that I mentioned in the book,

1511
01:17:54.359 --> 01:17:57.239
those are the real toxic males. The males will get

1512
01:17:57.319 --> 01:17:59.520
up in the morning and try to support their families

1513
01:17:59.680 --> 01:18:02.439
are certainly not toxic. And you know in the book

1514
01:18:02.720 --> 01:18:05.439
I talk about there's going to be a little toxicity,

1515
01:18:05.399 --> 01:18:09.159
it's going to be a little vulnerability. And vulnerable is

1516
01:18:09.199 --> 01:18:11.840
a word men have got to get into their vocabulary

1517
01:18:12.079 --> 01:18:15.920
because to be vulnerable means that you are emotional and caring.

1518
01:18:16.119 --> 01:18:17.800
You cannot cut that off.

1519
01:18:18.479 --> 01:18:22.560
Yes, well, it's part of our personage and our humanity.

1520
01:18:23.079 --> 01:18:24.960
And you know, we were told, you know, and I

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01:18:25.000 --> 01:18:26.479
get you know, we were growing up. You know, big

1522
01:18:26.520 --> 01:18:28.119
boys don't cry and all that kind of stuff.

1523
01:18:30.000 --> 01:18:32.319
Get heart attacks right right right.

1524
01:18:32.159 --> 01:18:34.359
But I believe we're past that. But what you are

1525
01:18:34.399 --> 01:18:37.119
bringing again is that oxygen that men have needed. I

1526
01:18:37.159 --> 01:18:40.119
think it's that same type of oxygen that Charlie Kirk

1527
01:18:40.279 --> 01:18:43.920
brought to the college campuses. I know, and I mean,

1528
01:18:43.960 --> 01:18:46.720
you know. And the thing I observed, Doc carl is

1529
01:18:46.760 --> 01:18:49.720
that in looking on the faces of these young people

1530
01:18:49.920 --> 01:18:52.359
when Charlie would speak the truth to them, you could

1531
01:18:52.399 --> 01:18:54.760
see the lights going on and they were thinking, you

1532
01:18:54.800 --> 01:18:57.880
know what. I thought, maybe that was the way it was,

1533
01:18:57.960 --> 01:19:01.039
but I had been convinced it was something else. Right.

1534
01:19:01.720 --> 01:19:05.119
They can't be convinced. They can't be convinced. I was

1535
01:19:05.199 --> 01:19:09.079
just channel surfing one day, just mindlessly, and I came

1536
01:19:09.119 --> 01:19:11.960
across a movie. I don't know which movie it is.

1537
01:19:12.039 --> 01:19:13.960
I didn't watch the movie. I didn't care to watch

1538
01:19:13.960 --> 01:19:16.079
any more of the movie, but there's there are two

1539
01:19:16.119 --> 01:19:20.239
college kids talking, one male, one female. The male college

1540
01:19:20.319 --> 01:19:23.399
kid is being harassed by his friends. They're teasing him,

1541
01:19:23.399 --> 01:19:27.319
They're they're talking down to him. That She says to him,

1542
01:19:27.880 --> 01:19:31.560
why don't you stand up for yourself? And he said,

1543
01:19:32.239 --> 01:19:36.239
because when I do, my girlfriend calls me toxic.

1544
01:19:37.479 --> 01:19:39.239
That's what's going on now.

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01:19:39.680 --> 01:19:44.079
Men are fearful of the names being called to them

1546
01:19:44.640 --> 01:19:50.000
by females who are putting these men down. Ladies ladies

1547
01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:53.119
who are coming to me for advice, men who were

1548
01:19:53.119 --> 01:19:54.239
coming to me for advice.

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01:19:54.319 --> 01:19:56.399
First of all, women have got.

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01:19:56.239 --> 01:19:59.600
To provide a safe space where men can speak up

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01:20:00.079 --> 01:20:05.319
and not be castigated and castrated because they have voice

1552
01:20:05.359 --> 01:20:09.560
their opinion. Second of all, men have got to grow

1553
01:20:09.600 --> 01:20:13.279
a spine. Whether a woman cares about what they say

1554
01:20:13.640 --> 01:20:17.359
or not, they have got to stand up and talk

1555
01:20:17.600 --> 01:20:20.640
their truth because if they don't have that, they will

1556
01:20:20.640 --> 01:20:24.560
internalize that, and that's what starts to fester until finally

1557
01:20:24.600 --> 01:20:26.680
they can't take it anymore. In like a warm bottle

1558
01:20:26.680 --> 01:20:31.159
of champagne, the cork pops and they commit suicide.

1559
01:20:31.359 --> 01:20:32.640
This has got to stop.

1560
01:20:33.399 --> 01:20:36.520
Well and how does that build a strong society or

1561
01:20:36.520 --> 01:20:37.319
a strong family.

1562
01:20:37.520 --> 01:20:41.239
Well it doesn't, right, It destroys a society.

1563
01:20:41.600 --> 01:20:44.399
Yeah, And the women say they don't want these mamsy

1564
01:20:44.479 --> 01:20:48.119
pamsey guys, And yet they're saying they don't want a

1565
01:20:48.199 --> 01:20:52.399
guy who stands up for himself. Why not, Ladies, are

1566
01:20:52.439 --> 01:20:56.880
you intimidated by that? I'm speaking my truth and I

1567
01:20:56.960 --> 01:21:00.800
am telling them right out, this is no role model

1568
01:21:01.079 --> 01:21:02.800
to create for your children.

1569
01:21:03.520 --> 01:21:05.880
Well what's the ideal? I mean? You know, And that's

1570
01:21:06.159 --> 01:21:08.239
what I would start with saying, you know, what is

1571
01:21:08.239 --> 01:21:12.079
the ideal? And as you said, you know the couple

1572
01:21:12.159 --> 01:21:15.720
should compliment one another, not compete with one another, but

1573
01:21:15.920 --> 01:21:21.359
fulfill and be that, you know, be that strength against

1574
01:21:21.399 --> 01:21:24.319
their weakness, because we all have strengths and weaknesses, right,

1575
01:21:24.399 --> 01:21:25.319
we all do.

1576
01:21:25.800 --> 01:21:30.199
And compliment versus compete against.

1577
01:21:30.399 --> 01:21:33.000
Yes, is an extremely.

1578
01:21:32.239 --> 01:21:36.960
Important concept for men to understand. A woman is not

1579
01:21:37.039 --> 01:21:40.520
there to compete. A man said to me from the

1580
01:21:40.520 --> 01:21:44.079
far left, He said, aren't you upset with the glass ceiling?

1581
01:21:44.680 --> 01:21:46.800
I said, I have never met a glass ceiling.

1582
01:21:47.319 --> 01:21:48.560
I have done my own thing.

1583
01:21:48.880 --> 01:21:52.199
I have spoken my mind, gotten into trouble with some people,

1584
01:21:52.439 --> 01:21:55.680
but that's part of the whole thing, and I accept that.

1585
01:21:56.079 --> 01:21:58.880
But if I have to go to sleep at night

1586
01:21:59.239 --> 01:22:02.359
not being able to identify who I am because I

1587
01:22:02.399 --> 01:22:05.000
did not speak my truth, that I am being a

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01:22:05.079 --> 01:22:09.680
fraud and somebody I'm a relationship strategist. I've gone into

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01:22:09.800 --> 01:22:13.479
Wall Street firms. I've done Wall Street to main street

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01:22:13.600 --> 01:22:18.760
firms to up and heal the bottom line. And whenever

1591
01:22:18.800 --> 01:22:21.399
there's a problem in the bottom line, there is always

1592
01:22:21.479 --> 01:22:24.479
a problem with some kind of interpersonal relationship going on

1593
01:22:24.920 --> 01:22:29.479
in that environment. And so I have taken apart what's

1594
01:22:29.520 --> 01:22:35.760
going on, created peace and and had bottom lines sore.

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01:22:36.359 --> 01:22:39.880
And one building on Wall Street, fifty five Wall Street.

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I was in this one company, and I was in

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01:22:45.199 --> 01:22:47.239
one division, and they and.

1598
01:22:47.359 --> 01:22:49.279
Other divisions heard about how I.

1599
01:22:49.239 --> 01:22:52.319
Had made such changes, and they asked me to come

1600
01:22:52.560 --> 01:22:55.840
to their division, and another one and another one, And

1601
01:22:55.880 --> 01:23:00.000
so I was servicing the entire building with my technique.

1602
01:23:00.119 --> 01:23:03.600
And they were not what look I teach MBA courses.

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01:23:03.640 --> 01:23:06.239
I know what's in the textbooks. They were on a textbook.

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01:23:06.479 --> 01:23:11.800
They were real world information giving and people loved it.

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01:23:12.159 --> 01:23:17.359
The bottom line sword and I do that for personal.

1606
01:23:16.880 --> 01:23:23.039
Problems and professional problems. It's very simple. If you eliminate

1607
01:23:23.159 --> 01:23:27.359
your truth from the equation, you might as well open

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01:23:27.439 --> 01:23:28.920
a casket and jump in.

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01:23:29.399 --> 01:23:31.960
Here you go, doctor gildacarl, I look forward to having

1610
01:23:31.960 --> 01:23:34.880
you back. They fine, I appreciate this time. She's a

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01:23:34.880 --> 01:23:38.119
spokesperson for the International Council of Men and Boys, author

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01:23:38.119 --> 01:23:41.239
of Real Men Don't Go Woke. How can they be

1613
01:23:41.239 --> 01:23:43.119
in touch with you, doctor carl Oh?

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01:23:43.279 --> 01:23:45.159
First of all, you can buy my book on Amazon,

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Real Men Don't Go both that Real Men Don't Go Woke.

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The book is doing sensationally well.

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01:23:51.960 --> 01:23:54.920
And also come to my website doctor Gilder dot com

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d R G I L d A dot com and

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01:23:58.239 --> 01:23:59.399
look at what the.

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Things that I'm doing are all about. I'm making some

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01:24:03.439 --> 01:24:04.560
major inroads.

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01:24:04.920 --> 01:24:07.079
Doctor gilde You are awesome. Thank you so much for

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being with us. Sake care all righty DOA.

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Nutrition for Patriots.

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Welcome morning, Welcome back. Great to have you with us.

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For more information on the show, you can go to

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Bill Martinez Live dot com. Doctor Rozabacari is going to

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be joining us in just a moment. He's the executive

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chairman and CEO of Medica's Pharma Limited, and we're going

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01:28:28.159 --> 01:28:32.439
to talk about prostate and skin cancers that you know,

1702
01:28:32.680 --> 01:28:36.079
I guess are pretty most common cancers affecting men in

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01:28:36.119 --> 01:28:40.319
advanced prostate cancer, lifelong treatment modalities are making the difference.

1704
01:28:40.399 --> 01:28:45.119
Challenges remain for patients with high cardiovascular risk profiles linked

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01:28:45.159 --> 01:28:50.640
to hormone deprivation therapies. Researchers have developed next generation hormone

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01:28:50.680 --> 01:28:55.079
deprivation therapy for advanced stage prostate cancer, which could be

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01:28:55.439 --> 01:28:59.079
cardio protective. So a lot is going on here and

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01:28:59.159 --> 01:29:02.039
we welcome doctor Baccary to the show to tell us

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01:29:02.079 --> 01:29:04.520
more about it. Doctor baccary, welcome, good to have you

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with us.

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Thank you so much, Bill for making time for us.

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Your overview has pretty much taken the thunder out of

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anything that I have to say.

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01:29:15.840 --> 01:29:18.560
Well, I doubt that, because I'll tell you a lot

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01:29:18.680 --> 01:29:21.800
a lot of men, you know, as common as prostate

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01:29:21.840 --> 01:29:24.640
and the skin cancers are. I'm here in South Florida.

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01:29:24.640 --> 01:29:27.239
I can tell you, doctor McCary, every time I go

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to a men's meeting, it seems like we talk more

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01:29:29.359 --> 01:29:34.680
about our ailments and you know, cancer, you know, symptoms,

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01:29:34.720 --> 01:29:38.439
and than anything else. These days. You know, you can

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always tell when you're getting older. When we were younger,

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01:29:40.239 --> 01:29:42.640
we were always talking about girls. Now we're talking about prostates.

1723
01:29:44.560 --> 01:29:49.079
Well, well, Bill, it is the it's like the the

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punishment and price of prosperity. After with good prosperity, the

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01:29:56.319 --> 01:30:00.920
next most important thing to focus on is your health

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01:30:00.960 --> 01:30:01.640
and wellness.

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01:30:02.000 --> 01:30:03.159
So exactly so.

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01:30:04.479 --> 01:30:08.479
We're fortunate that we have this opportunity to talk about this,

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01:30:08.600 --> 01:30:14.199
but nonetheless we have to also focus on it so

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01:30:14.239 --> 01:30:19.760
that we do not have what is otherwise amongst men,

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01:30:20.199 --> 01:30:24.119
the two most common cancer prostate cancer and skin cancer.

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01:30:24.800 --> 01:30:27.359
Well, and we've learned so much doctor McCarry over the

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01:30:27.439 --> 01:30:31.039
decades here, you know, with the technology and experience in

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01:30:31.119 --> 01:30:34.680
that I mean here, you know, we're talking prostate and

1735
01:30:35.119 --> 01:30:38.399
skin cancer treatment and the connection. I thought this was

1736
01:30:38.439 --> 01:30:40.159
interesting because this is the first time I've heard this,

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01:30:40.600 --> 01:30:44.239
the connection between heart health and hormone therapy and how

1738
01:30:44.359 --> 01:30:49.720
innovation is leading to more patient friendly options and can

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01:30:49.760 --> 01:30:50.800
I add outcomes?

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01:30:52.439 --> 01:30:57.640
Absolutely, that is the is the quest to improve patient

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01:30:57.760 --> 01:31:04.920
outcome with better treatment modalities. Prostate cancer is the most

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01:31:04.960 --> 01:31:08.520
common cancer amongst the most common cancer, with three hundred

1743
01:31:08.600 --> 01:31:12.840
thousand new cases that are diagnosed every year in the

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01:31:12.960 --> 01:31:18.680
United States. There are at a given time three to

1745
01:31:19.039 --> 01:31:23.880
five hundred thousand men in United States that are on

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01:31:24.800 --> 01:31:28.560
a ongoing hormone suppression therapy.

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01:31:30.119 --> 01:31:32.840
Addressing advanced stage prostate cancer.

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01:31:33.439 --> 01:31:40.359
More than one hundred thousand of those have cardiovascular risk profile,

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01:31:41.199 --> 01:31:47.279
and the most common cause of death in men with

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01:31:47.439 --> 01:31:52.399
prostate cancer it is cardiovascular complications. So it is of

1751
01:31:52.520 --> 01:31:58.640
paramount importance that there are new therapies which are also

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01:31:58.960 --> 01:32:01.920
kinder to the heart, and that is what we are

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01:32:02.680 --> 01:32:05.920
working very hard to advance at Medicu's Pharma.

1754
01:32:07.239 --> 01:32:12.279
Well, you know, as you mentioned again, this is I

1755
01:32:12.279 --> 01:32:14.840
guess for some probably the first time they heard that

1756
01:32:14.960 --> 01:32:20.479
our hearts involve heart health is involved with prostate cancer

1757
01:32:20.600 --> 01:32:21.840
and skin cancer as well.

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01:32:21.760 --> 01:32:25.279
Right well with prosed cancer treatment.

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01:32:25.439 --> 01:32:30.640
So I want to make sure that we highlight that

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01:32:30.760 --> 01:32:36.920
distinction that I well, first all men myself and you included,

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01:32:37.000 --> 01:32:42.039
should get regular PSA tests done, especially.

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01:32:41.960 --> 01:32:45.119
As we approach age fifty and above.

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01:32:45.279 --> 01:32:49.920
I certainly have gone way past that, but we must

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01:32:50.000 --> 01:32:53.520
regularly do animal checkups and have a PSA test done,

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01:32:53.600 --> 01:32:57.800
and that can really have an early detection and we

1766
01:32:57.840 --> 01:33:00.520
would not be in a situation where we come into

1767
01:33:00.520 --> 01:33:04.000
a category of advanced stage prostate cancer. But with advanced

1768
01:33:04.000 --> 01:33:08.319
stage prostate cancer there is a lifelong treatment and most

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01:33:08.359 --> 01:33:14.880
of these treatment are also can increase cardiovascular risk, and

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01:33:15.039 --> 01:33:19.000
there is where there is an effort and we believe

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01:33:19.119 --> 01:33:22.319
that we are in the forefront to bring a next

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01:33:22.319 --> 01:33:30.560
generation treatment, which is also is cardioprotective. And well, you

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01:33:30.640 --> 01:33:35.399
mentioned about the skin cancer. It's something that is just

1774
01:33:35.439 --> 01:33:39.800
so common that you cannot get enough people in the treatment.

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01:33:39.880 --> 01:33:43.920
So others treatment alternatives are important. But I'm sorry to

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01:33:44.119 --> 01:33:44.800
speak over you.

1777
01:33:45.359 --> 01:33:48.640
No no, no, no, no, it's fine. Hey, you're the doctor.

1778
01:33:48.720 --> 01:33:50.840
I'm just I'm taking notes here. Let me tell you

1779
01:33:50.880 --> 01:33:54.720
I appreciate you regarding skin cancer because we'll stay on

1780
01:33:54.760 --> 01:33:58.520
that because you brought that up. Is what are researchers

1781
01:33:58.600 --> 01:34:03.000
learning about invasive approaches to treating skin cancer?

1782
01:34:04.640 --> 01:34:08.560
Well, the skin cancer is the most common cancer, not

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01:34:08.680 --> 01:34:11.560
just in the United States but around the world.

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01:34:12.119 --> 01:34:13.680
Wherever there is.

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01:34:14.600 --> 01:34:21.720
Sunlight, exposure to sunlight, ultraviolet radiation, and exposed skin surface,

1786
01:34:21.840 --> 01:34:26.800
that's the breeding ground of skin cancer. So wellness check,

1787
01:34:27.199 --> 01:34:33.520
regular inspections, anything suspicious on the skin must.

1788
01:34:33.279 --> 01:34:36.840
Get some attention. But if you do end up.

1789
01:34:39.199 --> 01:34:42.760
Getting a non melanoma skin cancer, most common of which

1790
01:34:42.800 --> 01:34:47.960
is basal cell carcinoma, the treatment effective treatment is a

1791
01:34:48.079 --> 01:34:54.159
surgical treatment called most surgery, and there are trained physicians

1792
01:34:54.199 --> 01:34:57.439
about five thousand or so in the United States that

1793
01:34:57.560 --> 01:35:02.000
can only do about a million of these procedures every year,

1794
01:35:02.680 --> 01:35:06.039
and there are five million ukses that are diagnosed, so

1795
01:35:06.119 --> 01:35:09.279
at a given time, there are more than seven million

1796
01:35:09.359 --> 01:35:11.239
people waiting in.

1797
01:35:11.159 --> 01:35:13.800
The queue for a treatment opportunity.

1798
01:35:14.600 --> 01:35:20.960
And we are very fortunate that for nearly ten years

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now we have a novel, non invasive, uniquely designed micro

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01:35:27.479 --> 01:35:31.199
needle arrays that come out of Carnegie Melon and University

1801
01:35:31.279 --> 01:35:35.600
of Pittsburgh, where we take these these micro needles, we

1802
01:35:35.800 --> 01:35:40.680
tip gload them with microdoses of a known chemotherapeutic agent,

1803
01:35:40.720 --> 01:35:43.680
and apply these patches directly at the site of the

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01:35:43.760 --> 01:35:49.439
legion in an outpatient setting with triggers in immunogenic.

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01:35:48.640 --> 01:35:50.760
Response at least in more than.

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01:35:52.119 --> 01:35:54.880
Fifty or sixty plus percent of the time that we

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01:35:54.920 --> 01:35:57.760
have seen so far in a proof of concept study

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01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:01.239
and kills the cancer cell in a minates the need.

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01:36:01.359 --> 01:36:03.279
Of surgical intervention.

1810
01:36:03.479 --> 01:36:07.439
So we are very excited that we may have a

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unicon in the making.

1812
01:36:09.399 --> 01:36:11.439
Well that's great, So then that'll make a dent in

1813
01:36:11.479 --> 01:36:16.239
that excess of millions of patients who are sitting in

1814
01:36:16.239 --> 01:36:18.399
the queue. Right it is.

1815
01:36:18.560 --> 01:36:22.159
It absolutely is in the way the treatment is designed

1816
01:36:22.199 --> 01:36:26.479
that when you are diagnosed with non melanoma skin cancer

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01:36:26.760 --> 01:36:33.520
basal cell carcinoma. Usually the surgical treatment is scheduled ten fourteen,

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01:36:34.000 --> 01:36:38.960
sometimes even longer than that, and you have the option

1819
01:36:39.119 --> 01:36:42.199
that you can in an office setting in three sittings

1820
01:36:42.239 --> 01:36:45.680
two weeks apart, can start right away to.

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01:36:45.720 --> 01:36:48.039
Apply this patch by the.

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01:36:48.079 --> 01:36:52.119
Physician or a physician extender and come back for a

1823
01:36:52.199 --> 01:36:56.920
visual examination a few weeks five or six weeks after

1824
01:36:57.039 --> 01:37:02.119
the last application, which lasts about thirty minutes in each time,

1825
01:37:02.760 --> 01:37:07.520
and can if you UH the lesion disappear, you are

1826
01:37:07.560 --> 01:37:12.520
rendered as uh as treated and don't have to get

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01:37:12.600 --> 01:37:17.239
surgery done. But if you are amongst those other half

1828
01:37:17.359 --> 01:37:19.920
that it doesn't work on, you can still go and

1829
01:37:20.000 --> 01:37:24.840
get the surgery done. So it helps reduce the backlog

1830
01:37:25.199 --> 01:37:31.159
and also is cost effective and UH and the painless

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and esthetically a lot more pleasing, especially on the face

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and then and forehead where esthetics is a little bit more.

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Of a focus exactly.

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Uh.

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Doctor Rosa Bakari has been our guest. He is the

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executive chair and CEO of Medicus Pharma, and doctor Baccary again,

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01:37:54.439 --> 01:37:57.880
we appreciate all the information I'm sure our listeners shall

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will have some follow up questions. Shall so where can

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they go? To learn more?

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Doctor Paccari, thank you for the time. Appreciate you, take care,

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be well.

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Thank you so much.

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Hey, welcome back Bill Martinez here along with Jordan Goodman

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You, buddy? You're ready to be with you goa bill?

1927
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Hey, we've got lots to catch up on. We've got

1928
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the government reopening, which will be nice. I mean, after

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all that we've gone through, people are going, why did

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we close it? You know in the first place?

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Right litigate something that had already been resolved in the

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Big Beautiful Bill, which was the elimination of the extra subsidies,

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not the main subsidies, the extra COVID subsidies of an

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additional fifteen percent. The eighty percent subsidies remain, but it's

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the additional fifteen percent which is gonna run at the

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end of the year. And yes, it's gonna cause a

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lot of hardship for people because premiums are going to

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go up one hundred and two hundred percent and a

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lot of people are not gonna be able to afford

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health insurance. But this was put in as an extra

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help during COVID. I think COVID's pretty much overath.

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That's so. Yeah, they keep trying to resuscitate it, you know,

1943
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they have Code blue on it, but no, it's done

1944
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and there's a fork in it, but you know the

1945
01:43:44.000 --> 01:43:47.399
way it is. You know, that's as Ronald Reagan said,

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that's the closest thing to eternal life. Is is a

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government bureaucracy in a program.

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Right, Yes, so we'll see. I mean that's going to

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hurt some people.

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You know, the Snap benefits expiring cause a lot of

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pain out there, and all the food pantrys were just

1952
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overwhelmed by that.

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So hopefully that'll get back to normal.

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And it cost us, and it cost our country, It

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costs the citizens. I don't know what ten twelve billion dollars.

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01:44:13.000 --> 01:44:14.840
Well, it was like seven billion a week. It's how

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much it was costing, right.

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Really, well, well, you know the number is so fluctuating itself.

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Snap themselves about nine billion a month. But I'm just

1960
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saying that the shutdown costs about side seven billion a

1961
01:44:26.239 --> 01:44:30.239
week and lost wages and lost production. The most dangerous

1962
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part was what was going on with the air traffic.

1963
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I mean, that was really getting serious here. You can't

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blame these air traffic controllers, not at all, their families,

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you know.

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Not at all. No, I don't, I don't blame them.

1967
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I don't begrudge anybody. I mean you got you got

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to feed your family, and uh, you know, and hey,

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their boss short sheeted them. What do you what do

1970
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you expect you know them to do? You know, so, No,

1971
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that's not a problem. I think the takeaway in all

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this is that people need to settle down and look

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at what this shut down showed us. And it showed

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us a lot of things here, you know, really more

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aggravating waste and fraud and all that you know, built

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into the system here, and you know so, and also

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a lack of leadership.

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Jordan, Well, I think I'm going to be threatened.

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You know, he just didn't handle it well in those

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eight brave Democrats who said, enough of this. We can't

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have air crashes and people dying of starvation, and we

1982
01:45:32.399 --> 01:45:36.439
just can't do this over this one issue about healthcare,

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which was resolved in the bill passed in July.

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Well, and the dealers. First of all, this healthcare problem

1985
01:45:43.279 --> 01:45:48.079
is that they're making Obamacare. Not one Republican voted for it. Okay,

1986
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All this stuff that's happening right now is stuff that

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we you and I talked about it years ago. We said, hey,

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this is not going to you know, it's not going

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to work. It's not sustainable. This is a bad idea,

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and it's been on life so for a number of years,

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and I don't know, maybe because Obama's name on it,

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everybody decided, well, we'll just you know, we'll just kind

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of kick it under the rug here until all of

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a sudden it just became untenable and sit there and

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look at it. I mean, think about it. We're subsidizing

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it before COVID. Right, that's right, that's absurd. And you

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know what happens anytime any government program gets subsidized, where

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does that money go to?

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Everybody wants to get it on the actual place.

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Everybody gets the politicians get a piece of that, you know,

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especially the politicians because that goes into their treasuries for

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re election campaigns. And then all the insurance, all the

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health insurance companies go, thank you very much. We love

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01:46:50.000 --> 01:46:53.520
Barack Obama. We want a third, fourth, and fifth term

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01:46:53.520 --> 01:46:54.920
of Barack Obama. Are you kidding me?

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But there are no other solutions.

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That's the thing, is I mean, yeah, because because they

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01:46:59.279 --> 01:47:01.880
don't want to work it out. And and I'll tell

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01:47:01.880 --> 01:47:03.960
you what, the American people really need to hold their

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01:47:03.960 --> 01:47:05.560
feet to the fire, say I don't care what it is,

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what it takes. You know, we got a bipartisan group.

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Get in the room, come back with something, and give

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us something that we deserve. A world class health maybe

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an insurance program, not not a health care program, I mean,

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because that's ridiculous. We just need to treat it like

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car insurance, you know what I'm saying. Get it back

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into the free markets. Let them, you know, because one

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of the other big problems was everybody they had to

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protect their little domains, right, you couldn't sell across state

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lines and all that kind of jun that's absurd. We're

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free market capitalism, you know. That's what it's all about.

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Because then when the free market comes in, guess what happens.

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It puts pressure on the prices. Everything starts to decrease

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01:47:42.279 --> 01:47:44.479
in costs, right, and then you get rid of all

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01:47:44.520 --> 01:47:47.079
those PBMs that are, by the way, just sitting around.

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When you love a PBM job, Jordan, that's what I want.

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I want to Hey, when I die and come back,

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I want to come back as a PBM guy. Always

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with you do nothing. You just sit there and just

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you're in the middle, just collecting given is an only

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01:48:01.760 --> 01:48:03.199
thing you have to worry about is make sure that

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01:48:03.279 --> 01:48:05.680
check goes out to Nancy Pelosi or whoever the leader

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of the House is. That's all.

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Now she's gonna be able to make a lot of

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money that she's leaving Congress. You see, she's gonna she's

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01:48:12.000 --> 01:48:13.960
been holding herself back for all these years.

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You see, what do you think?

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01:48:15.560 --> 01:48:17.560
What do you think she's gonna do without insider trading?

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She has some still good sources, I think, so she'll.

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Do all right.

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01:48:24.319 --> 01:48:26.760
Okay, Now, the big thing that's happening we really have

2042
01:48:26.840 --> 01:48:29.840
to discuss this is the Supreme Court making the decision

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01:48:29.840 --> 01:48:32.800
about the tariffs. Okay, this is a big one. They

2044
01:48:32.840 --> 01:48:38.039
had arguments last week and basically the plaintiffs are saying

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01:48:38.479 --> 01:48:41.159
that Trump does not have the legal power to impose

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01:48:41.199 --> 01:48:44.000
these tariffs as he's been doing all year in a major,

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01:48:44.079 --> 01:48:47.359
major way, by whim. You know, Congress has had nothing

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01:48:47.359 --> 01:48:49.159
to do with it. I like you, We'll get a

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01:48:49.159 --> 01:48:51.079
low tariff. I don't like you. You get a fifty

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01:48:51.079 --> 01:48:54.319
percent tariff. You know, you run an Adams the World Series,

2051
01:48:54.359 --> 01:48:55.840
and I don't like it. We get an extra ten

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01:48:55.840 --> 01:49:00.600
percent tariff to Canada, totally by Trump's whim. Now the Constitution.

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01:49:00.760 --> 01:49:03.800
Last I looked at it, said Congress has the right

2054
01:49:03.920 --> 01:49:09.239
to regulate commerce and impose taxes. A tariff is a tax, Okay.

2055
01:49:09.720 --> 01:49:13.399
So at the hearing, it seemed like most of the

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01:49:13.399 --> 01:49:17.000
Supreme Court justice, including the Conservatives, were saying they don't

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01:49:17.039 --> 01:49:19.359
think he has the right to do this. So let's

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01:49:19.359 --> 01:49:21.119
say for the moment, that's the way they rule. They're

2059
01:49:21.119 --> 01:49:23.199
going to rule the next two months or something like that.

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01:49:23.840 --> 01:49:26.840
All of the it's about one and a half trillion

2061
01:49:26.880 --> 01:49:29.680
dollars that has been collected in tariffs this year so far, roughly,

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01:49:30.239 --> 01:49:32.840
all that's going to have to be refunded to these people.

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01:49:32.920 --> 01:49:35.000
How's that going to work. It's going to be impossible

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to do.

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01:49:36.119 --> 01:49:40.039
This is the central core of his economic particularly foreign policy,

2066
01:49:40.079 --> 01:49:43.119
and the result of it is he's gotten all kinds

2067
01:49:43.159 --> 01:49:47.079
of trade deals from China and the United Kingdom and Australians,

2068
01:49:47.159 --> 01:49:50.800
Korea and Japan and all kinds of places.

2069
01:49:49.760 --> 01:49:53.439
Plus peace plus Piece accords, plus Piece accords on top

2070
01:49:53.479 --> 01:49:54.039
of that Jordan.

2071
01:49:54.560 --> 01:49:57.840
Yeah, so he's that's the main weapon that Trump has

2072
01:49:57.840 --> 01:49:59.960
been using to get all these things done.

2073
01:50:00.520 --> 01:50:05.640
Well, he said, he's presented it as it's an emergency,

2074
01:50:06.039 --> 01:50:09.359
this national security issue, and then that's the argument is

2075
01:50:09.399 --> 01:50:13.520
that what constitutes an emergency, Well, emergency is is that

2076
01:50:13.560 --> 01:50:16.159
for what thirty years you've been taking advantage of You're

2077
01:50:16.199 --> 01:50:20.000
thirty eight trillion dollars in debt, and you know you've

2078
01:50:20.039 --> 01:50:24.920
lost access to critical minerals and other resources as a

2079
01:50:24.960 --> 01:50:27.359
result of all this, and we've got to level out

2080
01:50:27.399 --> 01:50:31.640
the playing field. And the emergency happened because Congress for

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01:50:31.680 --> 01:50:34.960
thirty years didn't do anything about it, and now here

2082
01:50:35.000 --> 01:50:38.439
we are. So what do you expect? So, yes, I

2083
01:50:38.439 --> 01:50:40.840
mean this is this is a tough deal, and I

2084
01:50:40.880 --> 01:50:43.600
get it. I get the challenge that they have in

2085
01:50:43.680 --> 01:50:48.880
terms of its constitutionality. But like you said, if they

2086
01:50:48.920 --> 01:50:52.640
blow this up, oh my god, what a mess. I mean,

2087
01:50:52.880 --> 01:50:55.239
what kind of trust are country is going to have

2088
01:50:55.680 --> 01:50:57.239
in our government going forward?

2089
01:50:57.920 --> 01:51:01.079
No, so if they're supreme correct, it's not legal in

2090
01:51:01.159 --> 01:51:07.760
the seven nineteen seventy seven Emergency legislation, it talks about sanctions.

2091
01:51:07.279 --> 01:51:08.880
It says nothing about tariffs.

2092
01:51:09.039 --> 01:51:13.039
Okay, So I think on legal grounds, he doesn't have

2093
01:51:13.119 --> 01:51:14.399
much more like to stand out here.

2094
01:51:14.479 --> 01:51:15.760
So say for the moment.

2095
01:51:15.760 --> 01:51:19.720
That they say it's illegal, okay, that's going to blow

2096
01:51:19.760 --> 01:51:23.600
a huge hole in the deficit. Already, because that's a

2097
01:51:23.600 --> 01:51:25.119
tree and a half is going to be more than that.

2098
01:51:25.119 --> 01:51:28.079
That's just upot just disappeared. It's going to put it

2099
01:51:28.159 --> 01:51:32.600
to question all the trade deals we've done around the world,

2100
01:51:32.640 --> 01:51:34.479
which include tariffs as part of them.

2101
01:51:34.760 --> 01:51:37.439
Yeah, well, why can't they do the same thing like

2102
01:51:37.479 --> 01:51:41.159
they did for obama Care, right, Justice Roberts says, oh, no, no,

2103
01:51:41.239 --> 01:51:43.640
you mean it's a tax. No we said it's not. No,

2104
01:51:43.720 --> 01:51:44.600
you mean it's a tax.

2105
01:51:44.760 --> 01:51:44.960
Right.

2106
01:51:45.359 --> 01:51:48.399
So now if the language is okay, can't be a

2107
01:51:48.479 --> 01:51:50.680
ter if it's a sanction. So then Trump goes, oh,

2108
01:51:50.720 --> 01:51:53.840
did I say care if I meant sanctions, And then

2109
01:51:53.920 --> 01:51:56.560
Roberts goes, yes, that's what you meant sanctions.

2110
01:51:57.720 --> 01:52:00.439
That would be the easy solution because let us say

2111
01:52:00.439 --> 01:52:04.600
sanctions in that bill. It does so anyway, if that happens,

2112
01:52:04.640 --> 01:52:07.720
it would blow a hold a bunchet deficit. All that

2113
01:52:07.760 --> 01:52:09.960
money is supposedly going to have to go back. I

2114
01:52:10.079 --> 01:52:13.279
Trump has talked about the External Revenue Service collecting all

2115
01:52:13.319 --> 01:52:16.159
this tariffs. Right, Yes, they're going to become the external

2116
01:52:16.279 --> 01:52:19.640
refunded Service trying money back. It's going to be a

2117
01:52:19.680 --> 01:52:24.279
complete mess, and it blows the deficit and all these

2118
01:52:24.279 --> 01:52:25.680
countries are going to say, you don't.

2119
01:52:25.479 --> 01:52:27.239
Have the right to put these TIFFs on me.

2120
01:52:27.399 --> 01:52:29.960
So it really will be one of the most consequence

2121
01:52:29.960 --> 01:52:32.720
of decisions. It's the Supreme Court reverses the task, which

2122
01:52:32.720 --> 01:52:34.439
all the lower courts are also ruled against.

2123
01:52:35.039 --> 01:52:37.239
Either that, than what you do is you put such

2124
01:52:37.279 --> 01:52:40.840
a fire under Congress, right, and you make them work

2125
01:52:40.920 --> 01:52:46.680
overnight and codify it that the president has the ability

2126
01:52:46.920 --> 01:52:50.640
or the Congress is going to make the tariffs legal

2127
01:52:50.800 --> 01:52:54.000
and lawful, and so there's no question about do it.

2128
01:52:54.039 --> 01:52:56.279
And then get ready because the Democrats are going to

2129
01:52:56.279 --> 01:52:58.800
pitch a fit. So then what you do is Stone's

2130
01:52:58.840 --> 01:53:01.079
going to have to push the new clear button, although

2131
01:53:01.079 --> 01:53:05.000
he came real close this last time, and nuclear everything.

2132
01:53:05.039 --> 01:53:08.479
Get all this stuff done because we're wasting time here.

2133
01:53:09.279 --> 01:53:09.600
Yeah.

2134
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Well, the way trade deals are done is it's negotiated

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by the executive there's his trade representative's trade team, and

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then they bring it to Congress to ratify. Like the

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USMCA with the Canada in Mexico, Congress doesn't negotiate trade deals,

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they ratify them.

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Okay, yes, but that's not happened in any of these cases.

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Trump says, fifty percent in Brazil, thirty five percent in Canada,

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fifteen percent in Japan, and then he changes his mind.

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Nothing's been ratified by Congress whatsoever. So that would be

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the legal way to do it, is to have Congress

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ratify treaties. But that takes a long time and that's

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not what we've been doing. So we'll see. I think

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it's going to be very, very disruptive if the Supreme

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Court decides that, but I'm predicting they are going to

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decide it is not legal.

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Well, we got to leave it there. Jordan Gunman, where

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can people be in touch with you?

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They can always even Jordan at Money Answers dot com.

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