Nov. 6, 2025
The Bill Martinez Show 11 06 25
The Bill Martinez Show 11 06 25
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Are you ready?
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Yeah, Okay, let's do it.
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Ill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture,
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our values, our politics, and our future.
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And now Bill Martinez.
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Well, good morning, welcome Bill Martinez here. Great to have
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you with us. We've got doctor Adam Rasmuss and from
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Barna Barner Research and it's actually the Cultural Research Center.
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In fact, let me do this again if you don't
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mind being a since we're kind of mess this thing
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up here.
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Yeah, barn is actually a different thing.
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Yeah, and I know what I know it is. Yeah,
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I know it is. And I just when I said it,
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I go I know I'm going down the wrong road here.
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So I just messed up here. So let's start at
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retake again. Well, good morning, welcome, good to have you.
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I'm sorry say I messed you up here. All right,
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let's start from the top again. All right. Well, good
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morning and welcome. Great to have you with us. Bill
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Martinez here with doctor Adam Rasmus and he joins us
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from the Cultural Research Center at Arizona Christian University. Doctor Rasmus,
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and good to have you with us. How are you, sir?
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Thanks Bill, I'm doing great.
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Well, let's talk about you know what's going on in
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terms of your research regarding social turbulence due to redefining
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sinful behavior. So this dynamic ton tension is rising because
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the barriers are like the walls have fallen, right.
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That's right. There is widespread confusion and controversy and sometimes
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ambivalence regarding what constitutes sin. Bottom line, fewer than one
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out of five adults maintain a consistently biblical perspective. And
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it's not all lost. There are lots and lots and
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lots of data points at the Cultural Research Center dot com.
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It's kind of a mixed bag though, and you and
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I'll be able to unpact that I hope in our talk.
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Well, you addressed twelve specific behaviors. Explain to our audience
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you know what you were doing here in setting these
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barriers up so that you could measure these behaviors and
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help us understand how people define sin and relationship to
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these behaviors.
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Yeah, happy to do so. This is a scientific study
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we did in two waves in May of twenty twenty five,
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so it's very recent research and we have three reports.
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This is the third of those three and you can
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find it all at Culturalresearch Center dot com. But we
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have these twelve behaviors, and yeah, they're all over the place.
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Six of them, I think people kind of square mostly
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with what the Bible says. And then three of them
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are fifty to fifty and another three are just really abysmal.
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And what we find is the church is not far
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behind culture and some of their claims about what is
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right and wrong. So that's alarming, but as I mentioned,
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there's some good news in there too.
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Okay, Well, six behaviors that most as you say, most
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adults see as sinful practices relate to speech, sexual behavior, faith,
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and drug use.
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Right, correct, So let's just start with one of them,
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intentionally lying in order to benefit one's self. If you
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are what we would call one of the don'ts, you
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don't know if God exists, don't believe if God exists,
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or don't care. That's about a quarter of adults in America.
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And with that question about lying in order to benefit yourself,
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forty four percent of those don'ts, the atheists and agnostics
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RULD say that that is wrong. Compared to those with
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a biblically integrated worldview, percent of us would say that's wrong.
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So that that kind of teases out the difference. Overall,
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seventy three percent of Americans would say lying to benefit
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yourself is wrong.
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Right, Okay, well, that's that's encouraging. I guess, you know,
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if you got ninety nine percent of people in the
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light agreeing that it's sinful and wrong. And I'm even
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surprised though, even that the atheists who don't believe in
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God have some sense of moral compass at least half
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of them, close to half of them in saying that
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could be a bad thing, right.
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Right, We do have a foundation here in America, and
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we can thank the Lord for that. We want to
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build and go from strength to strength. Eighty four percent
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of adults across the United States say that sin exists,
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it's real. And of those adults, seventy two percent of
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those say that sin is disobedience to God. So there
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is a foundation. It's shaky. We're seeing changes happen in
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our culture every day, but we do have that foundation.
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As you and I just mentioned. Probably one of the
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best places to see that is we really don't have
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a huge tolerance for people lying in order to benefit themselves.
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That's one of the higher points.
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Well, and I think it's interesting, Adam that you say
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that people have a general consensus about sin, and even
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if they don't believe in God, that God is still
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the measurement of what sin is and what it Isn't
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is that fair to say.
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Well, our theology tells us from passages like Romans One,
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that the conscience is put there by God, and some
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of the theologians would call it the census divinatatas. The
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sense that God is with us, this is a moral universe,
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does not go away. The only way that isn't brought
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to the foe is when we suppress the truth by
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our disobedience. So if we're really going to be true
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as human beings, we know that there is right and wrong.
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We know that there is eternity in the balance. That's
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just being rational, that's just being real. All people of
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all faiths, of all points of life have always seen
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it that way, and to go against that is actually
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to go against the way we're made as human beings.
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So it doesn't surprise me that people would argue about
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what is right and wrong. In his famous book Mere Christianity, C. S.
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Lewis starts the whole thing out talking about arguments. Just
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the fact that people argue shows that we believe there's
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a better way, So you're right, we're going to say
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that's right and that's wrong. And one other thing, Bill,
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I think sometimes people will use Christian terms for these
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things like sin or transgression, but they may mean something
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totally different based on their worldview presuppositions. So we may
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say we believe in sin, but when you really peel
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it down, it's different than offending a holy God, which
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is what we mean by sin.
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Well, I thought it was interesting because some of the
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data would indicate that age, your age would make a
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difference in your perception of what sin isn't right correct.
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And so the social turbulence that's common across the country
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for this past decade is reflected in significant changes in
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family structures, personal relationships, integrity and ethics, faith practices, and
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lifestyle choices. And this can be traced to shifts away
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from the traditional Biblical views on sin. And as you mentioned,
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there is a clear and mind er strong link. So
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think point four to zero point seven in the Pierson
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coefficient between generational differences and a rediffinantion of morality. So
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just to boil that down, the younger you are, it
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seems the further you are away from the biblical worldview.
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Well, it's when you get closer to the last of
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your last days, you might be thinking about heaven or
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hell a little bit differently than you did when you
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were nineteen.
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Yeah, that's that's for sure. I kind of have an
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old soul, so I was thinking about those things. And
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we would also add just the great mentors I had
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and the Holy Holy Spirit in there. But you're right.
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I think most people when they start to get older
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and they start thinking about legacy, and they also start
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thinking about their own mortality. That's wisdom, right. The my
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Verse says in Psalm ninety, Lord teach us to number
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our days, to give us a heart of wisdom. What
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it means to number our days is there aren't infinite days.
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You should know. It's only got so much time on
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this earth exactly.
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Well, and the other thing, too, Adam, is that you know,
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as you're older, now you're beyond being a father, now
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you're a grandfather. And you start looking at some of
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these attributes that are being demonstrated in your children and
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their children, and you're thinking, oh, my god, what did
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I do I How did I contribute to this type
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of behavior? And is there something can be done going
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forward that could make a difference in you know, my
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children's life and their children, because maybe I didn't do
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as good a job as I thought I could and
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would like to do. Anyway, we've got to go to
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