Nov. 6, 2025

The Bill Martinez Show 11 06 25

The Bill Martinez Show 11 06 25
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The Bill Martinez Show 11 06 25
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, Okay, let's do it.

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Ill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Well, good morning, welcome Bill Martinez here. Great to have

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you with us. We've got doctor Adam Rasmuss and from

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Barna Barner Research and it's actually the Cultural Research Center.

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In fact, let me do this again if you don't

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mind being a since we're kind of mess this thing

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up here.

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Yeah, barn is actually a different thing.

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Yeah, and I know what I know it is. Yeah,

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I know it is. And I just when I said it,

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I go I know I'm going down the wrong road here.

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So I just messed up here. So let's start at

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retake again. Well, good morning, welcome, good to have you.

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I'm sorry say I messed you up here. All right,

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let's start from the top again. All right. Well, good

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morning and welcome. Great to have you with us. Bill

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Martinez here with doctor Adam Rasmus and he joins us

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from the Cultural Research Center at Arizona Christian University. Doctor Rasmus,

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and good to have you with us. How are you, sir?

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Thanks Bill, I'm doing great.

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Well, let's talk about you know what's going on in

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terms of your research regarding social turbulence due to redefining

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sinful behavior. So this dynamic ton tension is rising because

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the barriers are like the walls have fallen, right.

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That's right. There is widespread confusion and controversy and sometimes

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ambivalence regarding what constitutes sin. Bottom line, fewer than one

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out of five adults maintain a consistently biblical perspective. And

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it's not all lost. There are lots and lots and

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lots of data points at the Cultural Research Center dot com.

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It's kind of a mixed bag though, and you and

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I'll be able to unpact that I hope in our talk.

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Well, you addressed twelve specific behaviors. Explain to our audience

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you know what you were doing here in setting these

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barriers up so that you could measure these behaviors and

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help us understand how people define sin and relationship to

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these behaviors.

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Yeah, happy to do so. This is a scientific study

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we did in two waves in May of twenty twenty five,

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so it's very recent research and we have three reports.

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This is the third of those three and you can

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find it all at Culturalresearch Center dot com. But we

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have these twelve behaviors, and yeah, they're all over the place.

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Six of them, I think people kind of square mostly

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with what the Bible says. And then three of them

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are fifty to fifty and another three are just really abysmal.

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And what we find is the church is not far

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behind culture and some of their claims about what is

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right and wrong. So that's alarming, but as I mentioned,

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there's some good news in there too.

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Okay, Well, six behaviors that most as you say, most

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adults see as sinful practices relate to speech, sexual behavior, faith,

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and drug use.

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Right, correct, So let's just start with one of them,

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intentionally lying in order to benefit one's self. If you

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are what we would call one of the don'ts, you

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don't know if God exists, don't believe if God exists,

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or don't care. That's about a quarter of adults in America.

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And with that question about lying in order to benefit yourself,

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forty four percent of those don'ts, the atheists and agnostics

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RULD say that that is wrong. Compared to those with

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a biblically integrated worldview, percent of us would say that's wrong.

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So that that kind of teases out the difference. Overall,

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seventy three percent of Americans would say lying to benefit

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yourself is wrong.

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Right, Okay, well, that's that's encouraging. I guess, you know,

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if you got ninety nine percent of people in the

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light agreeing that it's sinful and wrong. And I'm even

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surprised though, even that the atheists who don't believe in

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God have some sense of moral compass at least half

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of them, close to half of them in saying that

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could be a bad thing, right.

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Right, We do have a foundation here in America, and

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we can thank the Lord for that. We want to

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build and go from strength to strength. Eighty four percent

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of adults across the United States say that sin exists,

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it's real. And of those adults, seventy two percent of

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those say that sin is disobedience to God. So there

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is a foundation. It's shaky. We're seeing changes happen in

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our culture every day, but we do have that foundation.

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As you and I just mentioned. Probably one of the

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best places to see that is we really don't have

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a huge tolerance for people lying in order to benefit themselves.

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That's one of the higher points.

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Well, and I think it's interesting, Adam that you say

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that people have a general consensus about sin, and even

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if they don't believe in God, that God is still

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the measurement of what sin is and what it Isn't

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is that fair to say.

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Well, our theology tells us from passages like Romans One,

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that the conscience is put there by God, and some

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of the theologians would call it the census divinatatas. The

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sense that God is with us, this is a moral universe,

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does not go away. The only way that isn't brought

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to the foe is when we suppress the truth by

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our disobedience. So if we're really going to be true

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as human beings, we know that there is right and wrong.

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We know that there is eternity in the balance. That's

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just being rational, that's just being real. All people of

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all faiths, of all points of life have always seen

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it that way, and to go against that is actually

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to go against the way we're made as human beings.

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So it doesn't surprise me that people would argue about

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what is right and wrong. In his famous book Mere Christianity, C. S.

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Lewis starts the whole thing out talking about arguments. Just

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the fact that people argue shows that we believe there's

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a better way, So you're right, we're going to say

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that's right and that's wrong. And one other thing, Bill,

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I think sometimes people will use Christian terms for these

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things like sin or transgression, but they may mean something

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totally different based on their worldview presuppositions. So we may

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say we believe in sin, but when you really peel

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it down, it's different than offending a holy God, which

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is what we mean by sin.

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Well, I thought it was interesting because some of the

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data would indicate that age, your age would make a

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difference in your perception of what sin isn't right correct.

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And so the social turbulence that's common across the country

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for this past decade is reflected in significant changes in

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family structures, personal relationships, integrity and ethics, faith practices, and

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lifestyle choices. And this can be traced to shifts away

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from the traditional Biblical views on sin. And as you mentioned,

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there is a clear and mind er strong link. So

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think point four to zero point seven in the Pierson

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coefficient between generational differences and a rediffinantion of morality. So

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just to boil that down, the younger you are, it

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seems the further you are away from the biblical worldview.

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Well, it's when you get closer to the last of

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your last days, you might be thinking about heaven or

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hell a little bit differently than you did when you

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were nineteen.

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Yeah, that's that's for sure. I kind of have an

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old soul, so I was thinking about those things. And

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we would also add just the great mentors I had

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and the Holy Holy Spirit in there. But you're right.

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I think most people when they start to get older

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and they start thinking about legacy, and they also start

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thinking about their own mortality. That's wisdom, right. The my

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Verse says in Psalm ninety, Lord teach us to number

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our days, to give us a heart of wisdom. What

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it means to number our days is there aren't infinite days.

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You should know. It's only got so much time on

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this earth exactly.

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Well, and the other thing, too, Adam, is that you know,

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as you're older, now you're beyond being a father, now

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you're a grandfather. And you start looking at some of

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these attributes that are being demonstrated in your children and

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their children, and you're thinking, oh, my god, what did

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I do I How did I contribute to this type

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of behavior? And is there something can be done going

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forward that could make a difference in you know, my

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children's life and their children, because maybe I didn't do

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as good a job as I thought I could and

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would like to do. Anyway, we've got to go to

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quick break. We've got more from doctor Adam Rasmussen after

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We're back with your Bill Martin is here with doctor

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Adam Rasmussen with a cultural research center at Arizona Christian University,

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and we're looking at the social turbulence that's due to

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redefining sinful behavior and the rapid cultural shifts in our

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country and how they're reshaping the nation's moral framework. And

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you know, Adam, we get down to it, I mean

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it's still you know, as our founding fathers and other

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wise men before us. It said our Constitution was based

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wholly on a moral and religious people. And that's what

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makes that's what empowers the Constitution and allows us to

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operate within the boundaries of said document. And when you

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look at where our country is right now and how

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far we've moved away from God, it's no wonder. I mean,

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it's only by God's grace and mercy you think that

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the Constitution hasn't imploded on itself.

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Yes, thank you for God's grace and mercy. And I'm

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so glad you mentioned our founders and this great country

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that we are going to be celebrating our two hundred

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and fiftieth anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of

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Independence very soon. Right, What a gift, What a gift,

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that great experiment. But you're right, our founders understood human nature.

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And I'm going to say something that might seem radical

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or are even wrong, but I believe it with all

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my heart. It is simply irrational and Unamerican to say

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that people are good at heart and what we understand

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from scriptures that were sinners. Yeah, every one of us

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made in the image of God, but fallen, and our

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founders understood this that's why I say it's not American

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to say that people are good at heart. A couple

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of texts, We the Fallen People, The Founders in the

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Future of American Democracy by Robert Tracy Mackenzie makes that

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case when you look at the Constitution, when you look

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at Federalists ten and fifty one, we are not angels,

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are you know? The separation of powers, all of these things.

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And then oz Ginnis has a wonderful book called The

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Magna Carta of Humanity Sinai and that Faith and the

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Future of Freedom. And in that book he argues that

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here in America right now, we have to ask ourselves,

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are we as seventeen seventy six people are we have

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seventeen eighty nine people meaning the French Revolution, where they

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said basically, people are good, and you know, just let

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people do their thing. And by the way, the French

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are on their fifth constitution, they're still working through some

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problems our constitution two hundred and fifty years. Based on

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the fact that democracy is with fallen people, that we

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have to understand that. And as you made the point,

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I've got all of these quotes here from our founders

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about how we need the Bible. We need the Bible

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and we need faith in God to make this thing

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work right.

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And speaking of God in your survey, you addressed in

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terms of sin, is you know the ten Commandments that

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shall not take the Lord's name in vain right, And

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six out of ten adults believe that using God's name

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irreverently is a sin. You know that, And I'm sure

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over the years that number has been dwindling, and six

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out of ten is in something to high five over.

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It's not. I mean when you look at theological identified

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born again Christians, ninety four percent would say to use

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God's name or Jesus name in vain is a sin.

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So people that are into the Bible, but as you mentioned,

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all Americans, there's a majority sixty one percent of us,

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regardless of we go to church or not, no, that

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that's wrong. And so it's a good talking point with people.

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I know sometimes when I'm out with friends or whatever

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and they maybe aren't the church going type, they'll let

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one slip and they'll say, oh, I'm sorry. I'll have

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to say, well, you don't have to apologize to me.

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You know, something in their heart they know it's wrong.

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So the answer of course is to turn to God

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and to find faith through Jesus.

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Yeah, I mean it's one thing to apologize to me,

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and I appreciate that. But there's God Almighty that if

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you understood holy who God is, uh, you, you would

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realize what an offense it is to Him. And so

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I and I get that, you know, and it's tough sometimes,

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you know, people of faith who uh you know, we

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we we do get offended when we hear the Lord's

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name being improperly used and not honored.

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And then we were talking about this last night with

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a group of men. I said, here we are. And

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then you look at the Muslim religion for example, Uh,

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in their faith. I mean, if you say anything bad

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about Muhammad, they're gonna knock you. You know, they're gonna

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cut your head off. I mean there's no there's no

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due process. I mean, they just they go right to it.

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It's almost like in the Old Testament days when you

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know you have people blaspheming God, well then the stones

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came out right.

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Uh.

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But we you know, considering where we were then to now,

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you know, I I guess I'm you know, I'm challenged

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by that. And and how how do I play the

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role in honoring as far as a man of faith,

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how do I, you know, represent you know, that situation

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to where it's not casually accepted. Does that make sense?

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Right? And thanks to Jesus his death on the cross

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and his resurrection, the judgment has been placed to a

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time in the future, and as Christians, we don't have

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to execute judgment in these areas, especially with certain things

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like our religious speech. We live in a free country.

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People can say these things, but it is there is

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a time when that judgment will fall. And people that

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they listen to it, they say it, they watch it,

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or you know, part of their entertainment stream is just

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these constant use of God's name in vain. It kind

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of hardens your heart towards it.

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It really does tell us and we shouldn't do that.

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We shouldn't teach our children that way. And you know, Bill,

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in our country today, there's a real lack of humility,

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which I think is one of the keys of being

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a Christian. There's a real lack of what's sacred and

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honorable and a deference. And so what our culture does

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appreciate mostly and it's sad, is self expression. We're not

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into self denial. But when God gives you a no,

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the ten big rules, Okay, he is giving us the

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way of life, and we turn it and we flip

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it and we say, oh, you know, why would he

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give us these rules? Just give me freedom? We want

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freedom within form. So when there are these boundaries like

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you'll be married for life or you won't say this

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about God? Are those kind of things, life comes forward.

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Just like a trellis a mine. Like a trellis will

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give that vine something to grow on and without it

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if it languishes, but with that trellis, the vine flourishes.

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We need those rules.

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The rule of that illustration. That's a great illustration. Sexual sin.

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Slightly more than half of adults, fifty five percent can

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tend that sexual relations with someone you're not married to

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constitutes the sin. Break the rest of that down, if you.

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Would, right, if you're an atheist or one of those

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don'ts you don't know if God exists, you don't believe

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that God exists, or you don't care, it's much lower.

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It's one out of five. So I think you know,

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our bodies are meant for resistance. We grow when we

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are you know, doing things and our minds are meant

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for glory, eternal glory. So when we move our minds

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away from these principles of who God is and those things,

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what's left it's just the animal urges of life. And

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for people that don't have a philosophy that moves beyond

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the right here, right now feelings, of course, they're going

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to work that out into all kinds of sexual deviancy.

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And that is not helpful for families, for children, for communities.

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One of the things that the Christian faith has always

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done is to support the raising of children, the development

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of strong families and communities. But we don't have that

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in our culture. Bill. As you know, the birth rate

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right now is very, very low. It's the lowest it's

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ever been in our country at one point six y two.

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It is not sustainable. In the sixties or late fifties,

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it was closer to five or six. So, you know,

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if you're not actually controlling everything towards some kind of

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life principle or goal or tell us or an eternal plan,

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no wonder, we're going to see families and marriages suffer.

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Right well, Tay, there's so much to this report, and

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you know we've barely touched on it, and what do

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you recommend? How can people see this for themselves? Because

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this is quite this is quite revealing. It's also, by

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the same token, quite convicting.

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I have to say, well, thanks for saying that. At

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the Cultural Research Center, we are a nonpartisan group. We're

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part of Arizona Christian University. We are theologically and culturally conservative.

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But the CRC, led by George Barna, we exist really

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just to support churches other faith based organizations like yours

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in understanding what's going on in the culture right now.

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We've completed this three part series on sin, but we've

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looked at child rearing, We've looked at different political movements

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and the election. We look at all kinds of things.

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So go to the Cultural Research Center dot com. You

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can search all of it. It's all free, and or

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you can reach out to me and I'd be very

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happy to help explain some of this well.

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Doctor Adam Rasmussen with the Cultural Research Center at Arizona

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Christian University. Thank you you bless us. As always, I

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appreciate the time.

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Take care, Thank you Bill.

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for Patriots.

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Well, good morning, welcome, Good to have you with us.

499
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:29.480
Bill Martinez here with doctor Wilfrid Riley, the College proft,

500
00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:32.880
who is in the house to edumicate us because we

501
00:29:32.920 --> 00:29:36.880
need edumacation after all this government's shutdown. Business will what

502
00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:38.559
do you say?

503
00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:40.480
Yeah, I mean I think there's a lot going on

504
00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:43.160
with the shutdown. First, I mean one of my comments

505
00:29:43.480 --> 00:29:45.720
is that I think I said this and I think

506
00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:47.960
most kind of upper middle class citizens would agree with this.

507
00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:51.359
I haven't seen a whole lot in my life change

508
00:29:51.519 --> 00:29:55.000
because the government is not functional, and I think a

509
00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:57.119
lot of people can kind of kind of take some

510
00:29:57.240 --> 00:29:59.839
knowledge away from that. I mean, I'm not on snap,

511
00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:02.839
I'm not going to a national park for a couple

512
00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:05.440
of months, so there's there's nothing really happening. But the

513
00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:08.039
I mean, the the fact that's going on still is

514
00:30:08.200 --> 00:30:11.559
just bad. Leadership. You know, by this point what's called

515
00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:16.880
a clean car, a continuing appropriations resolution, has cleared the House.

516
00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:20.839
And my understanding is the Senate Democrats strictly are blocking it.

517
00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:26.359
The House Republicans, even the House Democrats. The Senate Republicans

518
00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:30.200
essentially would agree just to fund the government for a

519
00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:33.200
period of time at the budget levels of the past year,

520
00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:37.960
and the Senate Democrats want to add I think it's

521
00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:40.680
two hundred and twenty billion dollars worth of additional programs,

522
00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:43.160
which would include welfare for illegals, a bunch of other stuff.

523
00:30:43.559 --> 00:30:46.279
So that's the sticking point. So when people say, well

524
00:30:46.279 --> 00:30:51.160
the GOP is defunding snaps so on, three fourths of

525
00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:53.880
the House of Representatives would would like to put this

526
00:30:53.920 --> 00:30:56.839
in the rearview mirror. The problem is there's one group

527
00:30:56.880 --> 00:30:59.319
of activist reps that's saying, no, well, we're not gonna

528
00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:01.039
we're not going to let that happen. And that's what's

529
00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:01.799
going on right now.

530
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:06.759
Yeah, and they basically have hijacked the Senate, the Democratic

531
00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:10.599
senators and frozen them to where they can't vote, you know,

532
00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:15.440
and Schumer, Leader Schumer, he's afraid because there's some political

533
00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:19.599
ramifications involved here, but yeah, I mean overall, you're talking

534
00:31:19.640 --> 00:31:23.400
about over a trillion dollars that they wanted to add

535
00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:26.240
to the budget when they had already agreed there was

536
00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:30.759
bipartisan agreement that they were going through the appropriations process

537
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:36.079
like they normally would do. And the senators on both

538
00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:37.880
sides said, hey, we need a little bit more time,

539
00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:41.480
So we need a seven week cr car so that

540
00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:46.160
we can finish our job and present to the present

541
00:31:46.240 --> 00:31:50.279
to the Senate. And the Democrats looked at this as

542
00:31:50.279 --> 00:31:54.480
an opportunity, as the whip for the Democratic House side said,

543
00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:59.359
it afforded them leverage. So they're using the American people,

544
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:04.480
the people that rely on government, uh you know, government

545
00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:10.000
facilities and you know government food and moneies and that

546
00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:12.200
sort of thing, and they're held whole. You know, they're

547
00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:16.200
putting them in pain, so, you know, for political reasons.

548
00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:19.279
And and I think more and more people are seeing

549
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:21.960
this for what it is. And even though we've got

550
00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:24.799
election that's going on, you know, we're recording it before

551
00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:28.079
the results of the elections, so the results will be

552
00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:30.240
by the time they hear this. The results will be

553
00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:34.640
noted in New York and also in New Jersey and Virginia.

554
00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:38.480
But you know that's you know, they're trying to use

555
00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:41.759
this as a referendum against Trump, you know, like it's

556
00:32:41.799 --> 00:32:42.440
Trump's fault.

557
00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:45.400
Yeah. Well, I mean I think for then now bill,

558
00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:47.759
for you and me, this is elementary political science, but

559
00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:49.480
I think it's important for people. Remember there are three

560
00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:52.119
branches of government. So it's the legislative branch. It's for

561
00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:56.359
Congress that funds the country. So the budget, the president

562
00:32:56.440 --> 00:32:58.759
proposes a budget, there's kind of a there's a Presidential

563
00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:01.200
Budget Office, there's sort of a fun game around that.

564
00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:04.240
But the president doesn't actually set the national budget. That

565
00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:07.039
comes strictly out of the House of Representatives. So it's

566
00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:09.519
Congress that shut down the government. Trump didn't have anything

567
00:33:09.519 --> 00:33:12.359
to do with it. The Democrats and Republicans couldn't agree

568
00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:16.160
on a budget package, and so the Senate in particular

569
00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:19.799
came to a shutdown Trump. In fact, I mean right now,

570
00:33:19.799 --> 00:33:22.680
Trump is being sued by I think twenty five states

571
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:25.559
who are arguing that he should use some kind of

572
00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:29.200
available federal lock box funds to fund some programs, and

573
00:33:29.279 --> 00:33:32.440
SNAP in particular seems to really be in the spotlight here.

574
00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:36.119
That's welfare, basically, it's food stamps, and people are using

575
00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:39.319
this to argue, well, are you starving kids? You know,

576
00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:41.359
our young mom's going to be able to make it.

577
00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:45.480
As I understand, between the President and Congress, they have

578
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:48.920
been able to put together a fifty or sixty percent

579
00:33:48.960 --> 00:33:52.960
coverage of SNAP benefits for this next month. Now, I'm

580
00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:55.319
not entirely sympathetic in this case in the first place.

581
00:33:55.359 --> 00:33:58.000
I mean, SNAP for a family of four in most

582
00:33:58.079 --> 00:34:00.680
states is going to be about nine hundred dollars, which

583
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:02.759
is more than a lot of people who aren't on

584
00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:05.559
welfare spend on food in the first place. So there's

585
00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:09.039
there's a lot of question about should we evaluate these

586
00:34:09.079 --> 00:34:11.719
packages and get rid of some of them. But Trump,

587
00:34:11.800 --> 00:34:13.239
I think has done a pretty good job from the

588
00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:16.519
executive branch. That's what the President is of responding to

589
00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:18.960
the shutdown. The shutdown is coming from the legislative and

590
00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:20.559
they've got to they've got to work that out.

591
00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:24.960
Right without a doubt. And again, my I guess my

592
00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:30.440
optimism is that the American people at large, regardless of

593
00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:34.440
party it is, seeing this clear in a clear minded way,

594
00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:39.320
and regardless of you know, whose fault it is, it's

595
00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:42.480
just not it's just not happening, and then you can decide,

596
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:45.519
you know, next time you cast a vote, who you

597
00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:48.280
want to entrust your vote with. Somebody who's getting the

598
00:34:48.360 --> 00:34:52.079
job done or somebody who's willing to exercise this kind

599
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:57.039
of bricksmanship and delay payments and services and you know

600
00:34:57.119 --> 00:35:01.440
delay you know flights and you know problems for air

601
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:03.519
traffic control and everybody else.

602
00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:07.280
Yeah, I mean this, like I said, this is bad leadership.

603
00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:09.280
But again, this isn't This isn't really on Trump, This

604
00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:11.480
isn't really on you know, Colonel Haig Seth, anyone in

605
00:35:11.519 --> 00:35:14.559
the executive branch. But for everyone in the House and Senate, Yeah,

606
00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:17.480
this doesn't look good. I mean this includes stable people

607
00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:20.519
like some of the Republicans, Senator Fetterman on the dim side, like, you, guys,

608
00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:22.840
you have to get this worked out. I mean something

609
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:25.280
that everyone has heard if you've been the captain of

610
00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:27.440
an athletic team, or you've been working on a sales

611
00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:29.079
for or something like that, is, if you're the boss,

612
00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:32.480
what happens under you is your responsibility. Exactly what these

613
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:34.639
guys say, Well, we didn't understand there were quite that

614
00:35:34.719 --> 00:35:37.360
many people on welfare. Well, we we thought the Democrats

615
00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:39.760
had come to the table two weeks. I mean, you

616
00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:41.119
got to work that out. I mean, you guys have

617
00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:44.559
to have eighteen hour meetings until you get this done.

618
00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:48.119
And I don't really see that happening from what friends

619
00:35:48.159 --> 00:35:49.880
of mine who are on the staffers side have said.

620
00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:53.320
So we'll see. I mean, I think that this will

621
00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:55.719
be fixed by Christmas and probably by Thanksgiving for the

622
00:35:55.760 --> 00:35:59.360
obvious reasons. You know, Americans, especially on the right, aren't

623
00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:00.840
going to riot. We saw enough of that over the

624
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:02.599
past couple of years. But if you by the time

625
00:36:02.639 --> 00:36:05.320
you get to you know, you're scraping up pocket change

626
00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:08.039
to buy the turkey, and you see that your husband's

627
00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:10.440
Sully's a sergeant, he hasn't been paid in three months.

628
00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:12.199
I mean, that's going to affect what you're doing at

629
00:36:12.239 --> 00:36:14.400
the ballot box. So they, I think they're going to

630
00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:16.719
try to avoid that very heavily before the holidays.

631
00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:20.119
Well, Tay, I was relieved to see that they're you know,

632
00:36:20.280 --> 00:36:23.360
the social media activists went nuts, and we're trying to

633
00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:27.480
get people to go and storm grocery stores and do

634
00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:31.480
all kinds of damage because of you know, the At

635
00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:34.719
that point, it was the potential delay in snap payments

636
00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:39.320
and thank god, more sober minds reigned and we didn't

637
00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:40.639
have a lot of craziness going on.

638
00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:44.559
Yeah, I think one of the things that gets into that, well,

639
00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:46.519
actually they're probably on snap too, But I was going

640
00:36:46.599 --> 00:36:48.239
to say one of the things that Black lives matter

641
00:36:48.360 --> 00:36:50.320
is that a lot of the actual rioters weren't working

642
00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:52.199
class guys who happened to live in the hood or

643
00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:55.039
firemen or something like that. They were white kids, sometimes

644
00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:57.719
black kids who came in from college campuses. So I

645
00:36:57.760 --> 00:36:59.400
don't really think a lot of those guys are going

646
00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:02.719
to try charging the local grocer who has his four

647
00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:05.760
sons standing at the door to steal beans. I mean,

648
00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:09.320
I thought when I saw those videos, people were saying

649
00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:11.280
like we're coming, We're gonna take carts full of stuff,

650
00:37:11.320 --> 00:37:13.320
like they have cameras on the store, Like, are you

651
00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:17.079
really that's a little different from during a mass public disturbance,

652
00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:19.320
I'm going to throw a brick. You know, you're going

653
00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:22.440
to be very clearly identifiable as someone from your community

654
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:25.320
who's rabbing a grocery store where other people get their food.

655
00:37:26.159 --> 00:37:28.840
There hasn't been much report of that happening. I mean

656
00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:31.639
in urban Kentucky, there are some store chains that have

657
00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:35.280
taken precaution against that they've hired security guards for a

658
00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:37.719
week or two. But now that we know snaps continuing

659
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:40.119
at fifty percent, Now that you can see armed people

660
00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:43.599
near the few big box stores, I mean, I think

661
00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:46.440
that's a wrap that's not going to happen right exactly.

662
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:48.440
But you're you know, I agree with you one hundred percent.

663
00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:52.480
Just like in any other business, it's the leader's responsibility.

664
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:54.719
And you know, and I got to tell you, I'm

665
00:37:54.760 --> 00:37:58.000
disappointed a bit. I have to admit with Senator Thun.

666
00:37:58.519 --> 00:38:02.480
I know we know each about going nuclear. Everybody's reticent

667
00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:05.679
because it challenges tradition. But I just can't help but

668
00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:08.280
believe that if the shoe was on the other foot

669
00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:11.599
and it was the Democrats option to go nuclear, Harry

670
00:38:11.679 --> 00:38:14.599
Reid exercised the nuclear option. Of course, that's what God

671
00:38:14.599 --> 00:38:18.760
has three conservative judges in the Supreme Court. But I think,

672
00:38:19.199 --> 00:38:22.800
you know, the American people would understand enough is enough,

673
00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:26.639
like you said, eighteen twenty hour days in the room,

674
00:38:26.760 --> 00:38:28.599
locked up and get it done. And if you can't

675
00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:31.800
come to it, then hey, look at exercise the nuclear option.

676
00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:32.800
Let's get it done.

677
00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:35.679
Absolutely. Now, for those of you that don't know in

678
00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:38.119
the audience. The nuclear option is getting rid of all

679
00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:41.199
these Senate procedural rules, most notably the filibuster, that make

680
00:38:41.199 --> 00:38:44.079
it impossible to do anything. So the filibuster, I mean,

681
00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:46.920
in the Senate, one of the oldest rules of practice

682
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:49.239
is that any senator could stop business for usually up

683
00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:51.440
to a month, by just standing up and talking. So

684
00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:53.719
Ted Cruz is actually on our side of past master

685
00:38:53.840 --> 00:38:55.800
of the filibuster. Like he's read the Bible, which might

686
00:38:55.840 --> 00:38:58.400
at least have taught people something, but he's read Green

687
00:38:58.440 --> 00:39:00.400
Eggs and Ham. He read all the doctor suit books.

688
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:02.239
And I mean you can imagine this, like you're the

689
00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:04.880
equivalent of a business executive. You're there in your suit,

690
00:39:05.079 --> 00:39:06.719
you're planning on a seven hour day. Then you go

691
00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:09.639
home of lunch and instead some guy says, some clown

692
00:39:09.719 --> 00:39:11.400
is your perception, stands up in front of the room

693
00:39:11.440 --> 00:39:14.519
and starts reading Batman comic books and there's a panel

694
00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:17.880
behind him showing Batman fighting and tempt or whatever. And

695
00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:19.760
this goes on for four hours. Then you can use

696
00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:21.920
two guys. He's replaced by another guy who does the

697
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:25.639
flash right. I mean this dates back to the early

698
00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:27.599
days of the Republic. When people are expected to be

699
00:39:27.679 --> 00:39:32.159
trained speakers to hear these great orators. Washington wasn't in

700
00:39:32.239 --> 00:39:34.000
the Senate, but in Madison or someone like that, they

701
00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:36.239
would talk for three hours and they talk in cycles.

702
00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:39.400
There was a reason for it, but anyway, it takes

703
00:39:39.480 --> 00:39:44.000
sixty votes to override an ongoing filipbuster to get cloture.

704
00:39:44.840 --> 00:39:48.320
So this is why when people say, well, the Republicans

705
00:39:48.519 --> 00:39:50.760
usually have like a fifty three vote majority in the

706
00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:54.000
Senior House, because there's so many smaller states, why can't

707
00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:56.400
anything ever get done? The reason for that is that

708
00:39:56.480 --> 00:39:59.320
you need sixty people to pass a major bill. So

709
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:02.920
it's it's this procedural rule that most people don't know about.

710
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:04.920
But it's not just that they're behind and closed doors,

711
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they're canoodling with each other. It's that you really can't

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Talk About and Lies my liberal teacher taught me. You know, Will,

801
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as you were breaking down, you know what goes on

802
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with the filibuster. I mean, you know the reason the

803
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filibuster is there so that you know it's not a

804
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majority rule. It kind of neutralizes the majority rule concept.

805
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But what it does is it empowers the minority rule.

806
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So you've given up majority rule for minority rule. And

807
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how does that help government?

808
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:02.440
Well, I mean it doesn't in practice. I mean the philibuster.

809
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You're not listening to James Madison anymore. You know, so

810
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I think the philibuster is mostly a negative. The problem

811
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with the philibuster, the problem with the nuclear option, which

812
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is getting rid of the philibuster and a bunch of

813
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other procedural rules, Rule fourteen and this kind of thing,

814
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is that primarily the philibuster. Though once you do that,

815
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you both sides have access to the new state of affairs,

816
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and I think that's pretty important. So the Democrats were

817
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the party that got rid of the philipbuster for judicial

818
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nominees in particular right, and as a result of that,

819
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both parties are now able to slam through they're you know,

820
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best qualified but most partisan Amy Cony Barrett sort of judges.

821
00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:45.679
So I don't think the Dims expected that with a

822
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:50.079
relatively young Supreme Court and a relatively unpopular President, Trump

823
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would be able to frontload the court. But he played

824
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some games. Some people unfortunately passed away, and he was

825
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So I mean, we've got a Kavanaugh, Gorsach, Cony Barrett

826
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on the court because huz the Dims did this. And

827
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it's the same thing with any both parties going forward

828
00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:08.960
in the future, Like if the filibuster was gotten rid of,

829
00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:12.159
you would see big, beautiful bills from the GOP side

830
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passing all the time. But you would also then see

831
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the equivalent when the Democrats take power. So I mean

832
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you'd see expansions of funding to Obamacare by ten percent.

833
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I mean, you'd see what the left wants, the climate

834
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change bill passing. And the problem with this is like

835
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once you give people something in a democracy, whether the

836
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Conservatives pass an improved road building package into rural areas.

837
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People made fun of the bridge to nowhere in Alaska,

838
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So I mean, in reality, what you were doing was

839
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linking these small heartland and coastal towns. People out there

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loved it. But once you do that, it's not going back.

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You're gonna make sh those roads. And it's the same

842
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thing on the left, like if you give people ten

843
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percent more money for health care even though they probably

844
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don't need it, even though the average American could stop

845
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eating I could myself stop eating twinkies and get that

846
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same effect. People aren't going to turn that down. They're

847
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not going to take the car and their while it

848
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cut it up. So getting rid of the filibuster, really

849
00:47:03.880 --> 00:47:06.800
it takes you out of that phase of political sparring

850
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where things move very incrementally. As someone like Fetterman writes

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the bills, and it puts you in a zone where

852
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the Republicans are going to do big thing X and

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then the Democrats are going to do big thing why

854
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and people would have to get really ready to that

855
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adjustment that changed. I don't know if that would be good.

856
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Uh.

857
00:47:26.079 --> 00:47:28.760
Well, you know, there's got to be some answer to

858
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this because you know, as you said, and I am.

859
00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:35.400
I asked, you know, is it helping or hurting? And

860
00:47:36.400 --> 00:47:40.280
I don't in all the procedures and consideration when you have,

861
00:47:42.119 --> 00:47:46.400
you know, the minority controlling everything, I think there's something

862
00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:48.719
out of whack here. There's got to be something that

863
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and I don't know what it is. All I know

864
00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:55.400
is that this isn't working. And you know, and I

865
00:47:55.440 --> 00:47:58.320
guess you know, we'll find out for sure at the

866
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ballot box ultimately. But meanwhile, you've got people that are

867
00:48:01.880 --> 00:48:06.400
being deprived to services that the government has conditioned them

868
00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:09.679
to receive, right like you said, Yeah.

869
00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:12.840
So I think there are two levels here. One you're

870
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making a very good point, which is that there's some

871
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tension between majority rule and minority rights and every democratic society.

872
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And what you don't want to get into is minority rule.

873
00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:26.719
So pure majority rule actually is pretty frightening. I remember,

874
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I'm a big fan of the manly poets like Kipling

875
00:48:29.280 --> 00:48:31.679
and so on. They write these poems like Ramini about

876
00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:34.320
conquering places and falling in love and so on. But

877
00:48:34.719 --> 00:48:36.800
there read some poet recently was talking about how the

878
00:48:36.840 --> 00:48:39.440
Athenians killed all their generals after they lost a battle

879
00:48:39.519 --> 00:48:42.400
to the Spartans or the Persians or something. The army

880
00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:45.079
came home on votes they'd lost, but only narrowly. The

881
00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:47.440
city mob grabbed the generals who probably would have run

882
00:48:47.480 --> 00:48:50.079
the next battle, voted and hung them. And that's the

883
00:48:50.199 --> 00:48:52.960
worry with majority rule, right, I mean, you get fifty

884
00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:55.639
one percent of the votes, you get one hundred percent

885
00:48:55.719 --> 00:48:57.760
of the power. You decide you don't like the guy

886
00:48:57.800 --> 00:49:00.719
who's running the army, you can cashier him. Yeah, you know,

887
00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:03.599
and we see this when when parties change, right, I mean,

888
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you know, he didn't think he got too far into

889
00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:08.079
Iran contract. But like Oliver North or someone who's generally

890
00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:10.599
viewed as a hero party, there's a transition in the

891
00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:14.239
government and now you're on trial se Trump's guys. So

892
00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:19.400
with majority rule, there's that inherent fear of if they

893
00:49:19.480 --> 00:49:22.119
get fifty three percent of the vote, will they kill me?

894
00:49:22.679 --> 00:49:26.400
So we generally we institute these protections, no attacks based

895
00:49:26.440 --> 00:49:30.039
on race, political association, blah blah blah. The problem is

896
00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:33.280
that you can make those protections so stringent that no

897
00:49:33.320 --> 00:49:37.039
one can do anything. Our amendment process and even our

898
00:49:37.119 --> 00:49:40.960
filibuster process are intentionally set right at that bar. Or

899
00:49:41.039 --> 00:49:43.440
you need two thirds of the states or two thirds

900
00:49:43.480 --> 00:49:46.000
of the body to do anything, and you have two

901
00:49:46.119 --> 00:49:49.280
or three parties. So I mean, in practice, if you're

902
00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:54.199
a small minority, you can stop major positive things from

903
00:49:54.239 --> 00:49:56.039
being done. And the question is what to do about that.

904
00:49:56.679 --> 00:49:59.840
The most effective solution sometimes just to bribe the small minority,

905
00:49:59.880 --> 00:50:02.199
but almost no one feels that that is ethical. So

906
00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:06.199
it's an ongoing problem in political science, the spoils division problem.

907
00:50:06.280 --> 00:50:10.320
So there's not really a solution, right well, and I

908
00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:13.480
think exactly what you give up in that process? I mean,

909
00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:17.119
something has to be exchanged, right, and is it worth

910
00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:18.920
it at the end of the day. I guess that's

911
00:50:18.920 --> 00:50:20.400
your point, and I agree with you. I think that's

912
00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:24.440
something we don't know. We do know a little bit

913
00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:26.559
about what happened, as you mentioned with the Harry Reid

914
00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:30.119
nuclear option. What he exercised came back and bit the

915
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Democrats on the back end. And I guess the Republicans

916
00:50:33.280 --> 00:50:37.119
are afraid that, okay, this could happen to them as well.

917
00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:41.960
But meanwhile, here we go, as this continues to play out,

918
00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:48.519
speaking of some I guess law fair or maybe retribution

919
00:50:48.719 --> 00:50:52.199
and that sort of thing. We've got a situation with Boseburg.

920
00:50:52.280 --> 00:50:56.679
He's back in the headlines again. You know, James Boseberg,

921
00:50:56.719 --> 00:50:59.280
who seems to be the judge djoure or the act

922
00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:02.199
of as judged you're and he's the tip of the

923
00:51:02.360 --> 00:51:06.719
Seisberg of this Arctic frost deal. He and Jack Smith

924
00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:12.159
and and there's impeachments. Now, there's websites out to impeach Boseburg,

925
00:51:13.239 --> 00:51:16.000
you know, because he seems to get you know, mired

926
00:51:16.400 --> 00:51:19.280
and very partisan and in the middle of these things

927
00:51:19.320 --> 00:51:23.119
that are very I think they're anti democratic, you know,

928
00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:23.840
on its face.

929
00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:27.639
Yeah, I'm not, to be honest all that familiar with

930
00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:31.760
this exact case. I will say that the activist judge

931
00:51:31.840 --> 00:51:34.679
problem is a real problem in the USA. I mean,

932
00:51:34.719 --> 00:51:37.440
there's a Supreme Court decision and kind of awkward on

933
00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:39.480
this question. I forget the decision name as well. But

934
00:51:39.920 --> 00:51:42.800
there's a decision that says that judges all the way

935
00:51:42.840 --> 00:51:44.800
down to the district court level, as long as they're

936
00:51:44.800 --> 00:51:48.000
in the federal system, can comment on and can restrict

937
00:51:48.079 --> 00:51:50.880
the activities of I think the phrase is senior elected officials,

938
00:51:51.320 --> 00:51:55.199
which creates a really absurd situation, because a district court

939
00:51:55.320 --> 00:51:57.320
judge is someone you or I would go play golf with.

940
00:51:57.920 --> 00:51:58.000
Right.

941
00:51:58.039 --> 00:52:02.000
I mean, we got the Frankfurt Courthouse, regional Kentucky court

942
00:52:02.039 --> 00:52:04.280
House downtown. It's like a mile from me, at least

943
00:52:04.280 --> 00:52:06.480
twenty judges there, and they're black robes. So I mean

944
00:52:06.519 --> 00:52:08.280
you're what you're saying is that a guy like that

945
00:52:09.039 --> 00:52:11.920
can get a case if it's brought in Kentucky and

946
00:52:12.800 --> 00:52:16.199
can see that President Trump is the defendant. And even

947
00:52:16.239 --> 00:52:18.599
here we've got you know, eight democratic judges. Whatever it is,

948
00:52:18.920 --> 00:52:21.199
they can then sanction the president. They can put an

949
00:52:21.239 --> 00:52:23.559
injunction in place against whatever the president's trying to do.

950
00:52:24.159 --> 00:52:26.039
This has been a big problem for Trump. It was

951
00:52:26.039 --> 00:52:28.679
even a problem for Biden or these judges. You don't

952
00:52:28.679 --> 00:52:30.559
want to say, like these nothing judges. I mean, they're

953
00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:33.639
all human beings, but like these just guys, you know,

954
00:52:33.800 --> 00:52:37.960
from the local country club can prevent a major national

955
00:52:38.039 --> 00:52:40.119
plan from taking place. And what has what has to

956
00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:42.800
happen in that case is that all the cases that

957
00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:46.239
have been brought nationwide with these dinky little courthouses have

958
00:52:46.320 --> 00:52:48.920
to be consolidated. Then that that has to be brought

959
00:52:48.920 --> 00:52:50.960
in a circuit court, which is also probably going to

960
00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:53.719
vote against the guys in DC just for regional reasons

961
00:52:53.800 --> 00:52:56.280
supporting their judges. Then you have to bring that up

962
00:52:56.360 --> 00:52:59.800
to the Supreme Court, and eventually the president will probably

963
00:52:59.800 --> 00:53:02.079
get to do what he wants to do. But people

964
00:53:02.199 --> 00:53:05.559
don't understand the layers of bureaucratic nonsense. I'm not going

965
00:53:05.599 --> 00:53:07.400
to go on a side rant here, but that stop

966
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:10.360
anything from happening. So we just talked about the filibuster. Well,

967
00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:12.639
they got a fifty plus vote majority, why don't they

968
00:53:12.639 --> 00:53:14.760
do anything, Well, because he needs sixty votes. It's the

969
00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:16.760
same thing here, like when you do something when the

970
00:53:16.800 --> 00:53:20.519
president acts by executive order, anyone can file a motion

971
00:53:20.920 --> 00:53:24.119
in their local district court saying that the president shouldn't

972
00:53:24.119 --> 00:53:26.639
be allowed to do that, and then the president is

973
00:53:26.679 --> 00:53:28.000
going to have to send one of his top twenty

974
00:53:28.079 --> 00:53:30.599
legal guys probably to respond to that. So it's just

975
00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:35.840
it's an incredibly greasely system. It's been made virtually impossible

976
00:53:35.880 --> 00:53:38.760
to move within. And then well that's in the context there.

977
00:53:39.360 --> 00:53:42.480
Well, Trump, no doubt is the lightning rod anything that

978
00:53:42.599 --> 00:53:47.119
his name is attached to. I mean, he clearly is

979
00:53:47.280 --> 00:53:51.920
dividing the electorate and everything else that goes along with it.

980
00:53:52.119 --> 00:53:56.000
Judges included this whole situation with Arctic Frost was amazing

981
00:53:56.079 --> 00:53:58.880
to me because here it's like, what did we learn,

982
00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:03.400
you know, from water Gate? You know, because Arctic Frost,

983
00:54:03.480 --> 00:54:08.039
with Jack Smith and this Judge Boseburg, I mean, they

984
00:54:08.199 --> 00:54:15.920
have amplified and expanded the whole surveillance state of our

985
00:54:16.039 --> 00:54:21.440
government well beyond anything that Nixon and Watergate could ever

986
00:54:21.519 --> 00:54:23.599
imagine or whatever it was. I mean, this is like

987
00:54:23.920 --> 00:54:25.800
Watergate on super steroids.

988
00:54:28.079 --> 00:54:30.719
Yeah, I mean, so a couple of things here. First

989
00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:32.039
of all, I'm probably not going to make myself too

990
00:54:32.079 --> 00:54:34.199
popular with the audience with this, but I think Watergate

991
00:54:34.320 --> 00:54:37.400
was somewhat overhyped as a scandal. I mean, the entire

992
00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:41.239
Watergate scandal was that the someone on the president's team,

993
00:54:41.440 --> 00:54:44.599
Nixon seems to have become dimly aware of it. Later yes,

994
00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:49.239
hired a burglar to break into the DNC offices, which

995
00:54:49.239 --> 00:54:51.320
were at the time located in the Watergate Hotel. This

996
00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:54.599
was a strategic field office. So some guy literally breaks in,

997
00:54:54.719 --> 00:54:56.559
puts gum in the door, and looks through the folders

998
00:54:56.599 --> 00:55:01.039
for a bit and then gets caught by a charity guard. Basically,

999
00:55:01.119 --> 00:55:03.519
and my understanding is that in the dirty tricks climate

1000
00:55:03.599 --> 00:55:07.519
of the time, this was not very atypical. What Watergate

1001
00:55:07.639 --> 00:55:09.960
did was since the whole idea of Richard Nixon was

1002
00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:12.719
he's tricky Dick Nixon. He's a little sweaty, he's a

1003
00:55:12.760 --> 00:55:15.400
little chubby, he wears a two button suit. We're going

1004
00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:17.679
to contrast him with Kennedy. It was a chance to

1005
00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:20.559
bring him forward in that post McCarthy era and say, look,

1006
00:55:20.679 --> 00:55:24.639
these rightists are crooks. They want to be kings. Can

1007
00:55:24.679 --> 00:55:27.320
you believe the president did this? And the reality is that,

1008
00:55:27.360 --> 00:55:30.079
I mean, like John F. Kennedy had rotating mistresses at

1009
00:55:30.079 --> 00:55:31.599
the White House. I have a great deal repector Kennedy

1010
00:55:31.599 --> 00:55:33.840
as well, by the way kids handling the Russians, But

1011
00:55:33.960 --> 00:55:35.440
I mean, like you know, it was one of the

1012
00:55:35.480 --> 00:55:38.599
great political dirty tricksters of our time. His father probably

1013
00:55:38.639 --> 00:55:41.480
stole an election for him in Chicago. You know, Big

1014
00:55:41.599 --> 00:55:44.239
Joe Kennedy, that's well known in Chicago politics and did

1015
00:55:44.280 --> 00:55:46.760
people voted to the tune of about ninety thousand. So

1016
00:55:47.079 --> 00:55:51.519
for this to hit the Republican who was doing a

1017
00:55:51.599 --> 00:55:54.320
set of things at that particular time is a bit silly.

1018
00:55:54.840 --> 00:55:58.400
Have we crossed the Watergate line in terms of political scandals?

1019
00:55:59.159 --> 00:56:01.000
I would say so yeah. I mean when you look

1020
00:56:01.000 --> 00:56:04.719
at Arctic frost, like, the allegations behind a lot of

1021
00:56:04.760 --> 00:56:08.559
the recent stuff involving Trump are basically that the deep

1022
00:56:08.679 --> 00:56:11.440
state of the country has been pursuing Trump since he

1023
00:56:11.519 --> 00:56:14.599
started running for office. And then most of the scandals

1024
00:56:14.599 --> 00:56:18.880
against Trump were not only inadequate to prosecute, but were

1025
00:56:19.000 --> 00:56:22.239
largely made up using these kind of byzantine techniques.

1026
00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:23.000
I e.

1027
00:56:23.159 --> 00:56:25.559
Someone would like get a report Trump was working with

1028
00:56:25.639 --> 00:56:28.679
the Russians. This would be used to wire tap Trump

1029
00:56:28.840 --> 00:56:32.400
to gain evidence of some picayune statements people had a

1030
00:56:32.440 --> 00:56:36.239
problem with. This became a collection of intelligence material. This

1031
00:56:36.320 --> 00:56:38.079
is a bit out of live but the Steele dossier,

1032
00:56:38.199 --> 00:56:42.039
all these other documents, So the entire Russigate scandal, in

1033
00:56:42.159 --> 00:56:44.559
my opinion, and I'm not an expert on the case,

1034
00:56:44.599 --> 00:56:48.760
but was essentially manufactured. There were of course it was. Yeah,

1035
00:56:48.800 --> 00:56:50.159
I mean we all know that on the right now.

1036
00:56:50.199 --> 00:56:53.440
But that's that to me would be a bigger scandal

1037
00:56:53.559 --> 00:56:56.079
than what happened during Water Day, like the FBI or

1038
00:56:56.199 --> 00:57:01.000
CIA being involved in this kind of you know, propaganda

1039
00:57:01.159 --> 00:57:04.039
production is a major issue in a democratic country.

1040
00:57:04.480 --> 00:57:07.239
Well, there's been so many things that have been overlooked,

1041
00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:11.119
like you said, whether we're talking arctic frost, whether we're

1042
00:57:11.159 --> 00:57:18.519
talking you know, how we left Afghanistan. I mean, it's

1043
00:57:18.599 --> 00:57:22.400
just been one fiasco after another of the usage of

1044
00:57:22.480 --> 00:57:26.239
the auto pen, you know, and we can even get

1045
00:57:26.280 --> 00:57:30.519
down and really get crazy and light up people's minds

1046
00:57:30.559 --> 00:57:34.280
and talking about the twenty twenty election, which a majority

1047
00:57:34.320 --> 00:57:38.039
of Americans still are scratching their head over. But anyway,

1048
00:57:38.039 --> 00:57:41.320
we got to leave it there to be continued. Doctor

1049
00:57:41.320 --> 00:57:44.280
Wilfrid Riley, the professor of political science at Kentucky State

1050
00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:47.760
University and author, celebrated that he is thank you will

1051
00:57:47.800 --> 00:57:49.119
for being with his appreciated sir.

1052
00:57:49.119 --> 00:57:51.800
Take care Bill as always, thanks for having me on.

1053
00:57:52.280 --> 00:57:52.679
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1070
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1073
00:59:05.599 --> 00:59:07.760
Good morning and welcome Bill Martinez here. Great to have

1074
00:59:07.880 --> 00:59:10.519
you with us. We've got the infamous Nils Gavilli is

1075
00:59:10.559 --> 00:59:12.519
with us. Hey, Nil's good morning to you. How are

1076
00:59:12.559 --> 00:59:12.840
you there?

1077
00:59:13.440 --> 00:59:16.679
I'm fantastic Bill and Jose Hey, I'm doing wonderful.

1078
00:59:16.800 --> 00:59:21.159
I mean, as we're recording this, we've got some major

1079
00:59:21.320 --> 00:59:26.000
elections happening beck East that all eyes are on, and

1080
00:59:26.559 --> 00:59:29.880
we'll see about the future of America. But other than that,

1081
00:59:30.039 --> 00:59:32.880
you're still out there catching the bad guys and that's

1082
00:59:32.960 --> 00:59:33.679
most important.

1083
00:59:34.639 --> 00:59:38.679
Well, yes, and you're bringing truth to Americans over the

1084
00:59:38.760 --> 00:59:43.519
airwaves and internet waves, mister Martinez. I mean, we've got

1085
00:59:43.599 --> 00:59:46.199
work to do. There are a lot of bad and

1086
00:59:46.320 --> 00:59:49.199
interesting things happening in this country. I'll make a little

1087
00:59:49.239 --> 00:59:53.159
bit of a prediction for you. Let's say Mom Donkey

1088
00:59:53.280 --> 00:59:56.079
wins in New York City and becomes the new Maya

1089
00:59:57.079 --> 01:00:01.079
almost certainly going to happen, and Prop fifty passes in California,

1090
01:00:01.239 --> 01:00:05.599
so that so that Gavo can take complete control of

1091
01:00:05.719 --> 01:00:10.559
our congressional delegation in the state. Our friends in the

1092
01:00:11.000 --> 01:00:14.119
political media are going to launch a syop against us

1093
01:00:14.760 --> 01:00:17.880
where they convince us that the whole thing, that we're

1094
01:00:18.119 --> 01:00:21.159
about to lose everything, and that JD Vance doesn't stand

1095
01:00:21.239 --> 01:00:23.639
a chance, and the midterms are already lost, and it's

1096
01:00:23.719 --> 01:00:27.239
time to put Donald Trump in jail at last. They're

1097
01:00:27.280 --> 01:00:30.800
going to start saying things like that, like Midnight tonight

1098
01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:31.360
or something.

1099
01:00:31.880 --> 01:00:35.079
Right, Well, you might be right, I mean tried everything else.

1100
01:00:35.159 --> 01:00:38.440
I mean here all the positive things that Donald Trump

1101
01:00:38.480 --> 01:00:42.199
has done, not even his first year. We're still counting

1102
01:00:42.360 --> 01:00:46.480
months here, Neils, and he's hitting home runs all over

1103
01:00:46.559 --> 01:00:49.360
the place. And the left would want you to believe

1104
01:00:49.480 --> 01:00:52.280
that the sky is falling. You know, Schumer still has

1105
01:00:52.360 --> 01:00:55.239
the government shut down. But in spite of that, Donald

1106
01:00:55.239 --> 01:00:58.840
Trump says, Okay, well, I'll let that, you know, kind

1107
01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:01.679
of bake over. And meanwhile, I'm going to go and

1108
01:01:01.760 --> 01:01:05.760
settle some disputes and bring peace to areas that have

1109
01:01:05.840 --> 01:01:08.920
been fighting wars for you know, decades. We're going to

1110
01:01:08.960 --> 01:01:11.800
do some you know a little bit of tariffs here

1111
01:01:11.840 --> 01:01:15.039
and there to kind of make you know, the trade

1112
01:01:15.559 --> 01:01:19.840
experience fair and and a little bit more you know,

1113
01:01:20.000 --> 01:01:21.760
congenial for Americans. Why not?

1114
01:01:22.079 --> 01:01:22.239
Right?

1115
01:01:23.360 --> 01:01:27.480
Well, okay, so no good deed ever went unpunished, now,

1116
01:01:27.559 --> 01:01:28.679
did it, mister Martinez?

1117
01:01:29.119 --> 01:01:31.719
H Not at all? No, No, that's well especially and

1118
01:01:31.800 --> 01:01:34.800
see the Democrats, they've got a hammer in their hands,

1119
01:01:34.840 --> 01:01:37.000
so everything that they see looks like a nail.

1120
01:01:37.159 --> 01:01:41.840
Right, I think you're correct. And they eat the rich crowd, well,

1121
01:01:41.920 --> 01:01:44.679
I think that they could be snacking on Elizabeth Warren

1122
01:01:44.760 --> 01:01:49.039
and Jerry Nadler and and Adam Schiff. I mean, you know,

1123
01:01:49.079 --> 01:01:51.239
if they're so desperate to eat the rich, let them

1124
01:01:51.280 --> 01:01:52.280
eat those rich people.

1125
01:01:52.920 --> 01:01:55.199
Yeah, we're you know, I don't know why that's a

1126
01:01:55.239 --> 01:01:58.000
protected class, but sooner or later, I mean that's what

1127
01:01:58.079 --> 01:02:00.199
the left does. They eat their own, right, So it's

1128
01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:01.880
just a matter of time. So you know, get the

1129
01:02:01.920 --> 01:02:05.480
popcordin ready and it'll be fun television for a while.

1130
01:02:06.880 --> 01:02:10.280
I think you're correct. Now, the big question I have

1131
01:02:10.440 --> 01:02:13.320
going forward is are the Democrats going to hold a

1132
01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:18.519
synthetic primary for twenty eight where they just fix who

1133
01:02:18.599 --> 01:02:21.440
the candidate is going to be in advance, or they

1134
01:02:22.239 --> 01:02:25.960
have a mock primary involving their favorite electoral college they

1135
01:02:26.039 --> 01:02:30.519
call it, I think super delegates, yes, exactly, Or are

1136
01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:35.679
they going to have an organic primary with Lexi Banana

1137
01:02:37.039 --> 01:02:42.920
AOC running. You know, let her run, she doesn't you know,

1138
01:02:43.239 --> 01:02:46.400
if we wind up with AOC as president, it's because

1139
01:02:46.480 --> 01:02:49.719
we bloody well deserved her, exactly.

1140
01:02:49.559 --> 01:02:54.000
Right, right. Well, the thing is is that the Democrats

1141
01:02:54.079 --> 01:02:58.239
have a set pattern. As you said, it'll be a

1142
01:02:58.320 --> 01:03:02.000
faux primary as it has been. That's become the tradition

1143
01:03:02.440 --> 01:03:05.360
of the Democrats. They definitely, you know, went a little

1144
01:03:05.440 --> 01:03:10.000
bit further left by you know, appointing Queen Kamala. You know,

1145
01:03:10.440 --> 01:03:13.320
but look how that varied for them. They spent over

1146
01:03:13.400 --> 01:03:16.800
a billion dollars and still lost. And and somehow she

1147
01:03:16.920 --> 01:03:19.119
thinks she's gonna run again. But Nils, you tell me

1148
01:03:19.199 --> 01:03:21.480
who's got money? Who wants to put any money on

1149
01:03:21.559 --> 01:03:23.039
that horse that keeps coming last.

1150
01:03:23.760 --> 01:03:27.679
I don't think comrade Kamala stands a chance of getting

1151
01:03:27.800 --> 01:03:30.719
nominated again. You know, she had, she had a shot.

1152
01:03:32.119 --> 01:03:34.280
I think that they're going to go for Wes Moore

1153
01:03:34.559 --> 01:03:38.639
or Andy Basheer if they do a synthetic nomination process.

1154
01:03:39.599 --> 01:03:43.639
Gavo thinks that he's the he's the bo ideal for them.

1155
01:03:44.639 --> 01:03:49.239
I think that that Gavin Newsom would be radioactive in

1156
01:03:49.360 --> 01:03:50.079
real America.

1157
01:03:51.280 --> 01:03:55.199
Well would the Democrats even look at his record? I mean,

1158
01:03:55.239 --> 01:03:57.000
they'd have to ignore his bread. But they're good. They're

1159
01:03:57.039 --> 01:03:59.119
good at ignoring stuff. I mean, they ignored all that

1160
01:03:59.239 --> 01:04:03.119
stuff about Obama and Hillary and uh, you know Quyl Harris,

1161
01:04:03.199 --> 01:04:04.039
so you.

1162
01:04:04.079 --> 01:04:07.039
Know, you know, they just they're always coming through the

1163
01:04:07.719 --> 01:04:11.519
through the spoor of the monster, looking for some undigested

1164
01:04:11.639 --> 01:04:14.960
kernels to chew on. Okay, that's how else can I

1165
01:04:15.119 --> 01:04:18.360
characterize and I apologize if I've taken this in a

1166
01:04:18.519 --> 01:04:19.400
in a bad direction.

1167
01:04:19.559 --> 01:04:24.280
Mister Martinez, Well, Nils, we all need a little levity

1168
01:04:24.920 --> 01:04:27.400
because you can take this stuff way too serious and

1169
01:04:27.840 --> 01:04:31.760
get yourself in trouble and and go down, you know,

1170
01:04:32.199 --> 01:04:35.320
like like the left is done and becomes so deranged

1171
01:04:35.360 --> 01:04:38.480
that you exchange, exchange the Trump derangement syndrome for the

1172
01:04:38.760 --> 01:04:42.800
uh you know Newsome you know derangement syndrome. We don't

1173
01:04:42.880 --> 01:04:45.239
need to lose our minds in the process, when you

1174
01:04:45.320 --> 01:04:47.800
got half the country already losing theirs. We have to

1175
01:04:47.880 --> 01:04:51.199
maintain some sanity, you know, for for the rest of us, right.

1176
01:04:52.119 --> 01:04:55.800
I think you're correct, uh, As I recall when Bho won,

1177
01:04:55.960 --> 01:04:59.280
everybody was pretty level headed about it. On our side.

1178
01:04:59.400 --> 01:05:04.840
I mean, there was lots of disgusting, vacuous idolatry of

1179
01:05:04.960 --> 01:05:11.039
the man and revolting display with the Teachers' Union trying

1180
01:05:11.119 --> 01:05:14.719
to force children to sing Obama carrols and things like that.

1181
01:05:14.880 --> 01:05:15.000
Him.

1182
01:05:15.920 --> 01:05:18.719
You know, yeah, but but we don't have a king though,

1183
01:05:19.320 --> 01:05:21.159
you know, there's no such thing as a king, right

1184
01:05:22.159 --> 01:05:23.440
maybe maybe?

1185
01:05:24.119 --> 01:05:27.000
Okay, So we had a nude emperor for eight years.

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Yeah. Well, well, and the thing is is that you

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look at where we are today. We're here in part

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because of the eight years of Obama, and then you

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got a little bit of a break, and then you

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get four years of Biden. So that's twelve years of

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just a hot mess. And then Donald Trump here comes

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in and he's trying to clean it up, and you know,

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and meanwhile you've got these activist judges. Boseburg, his name's back,

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you know, he's back, Boseburg. I mean, it's like, how

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much more you know, disruption can we handle from this guy.

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He needs to be sent straight to jail. You know,

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you can't collect two hundred bucks. Just get the heck

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out of here. We don't need you.

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Yeah, he should be impeached, and I agree with I'm

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going to take a page from Steve Bannon. He pointed

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out that the Republicans were pretty much okay with most

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aspects of Arctic frost until it was revealed that they

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were spied on by Jack Smith, that sort of thing,

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and Judge Buds Buzz Turt or whatever his name is,

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signing off on these serial illegalities. Some of these people

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need to face some consequences pretty quickly here, and we're

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going to lose the script if we don't start prosecuting them.

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So we are seeing some of it, let's see some more.

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I think that Pam Bondi has a federal grand jury

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and paneled in your state. I think in Fort Pierce

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or Miami that is going to be looking at this,

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and I let the chips fall where they may. People

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put a lot of faith in John Durham, and Durham

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did the best that he could, but the Justice Department

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concealed ninety percent adactly from it.

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Yeah, less people forget that that was the battle that

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he was fighting, and here it is. I mean, he

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didn't really have everything that they needed in order to

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present a case and to present it to the people

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But you're exactly right, Nils. Consequences must be must be

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laid out. If not, we're going to continue or it's

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going to get worse. Because look where we are right now.

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I mean, Arctic frost is watergate on steroids.

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I agree with you, And you can't and panel a

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jury or a grand jury in DC. It has to

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be done in the United States it's as if DC

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was a foreign capital or something so hostile to the

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American voter. Is our own capital.

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Exactly got to go to quick break. We got more

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from Nils on the other side. Stay with us.

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Welcome back Bill Martinez here with Nil's Garbilius, los Angeles

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based private detective. Hey, just real quick sidebar, because you're

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there in Los Angeles right part of the ninersir? So

1321
01:12:46.760 --> 01:12:49.239
the Dodgers won? Did you pay much attention to the

1322
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World Series?

1323
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I will confess to having watched every game.

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I tell you, well, here, hey, imagine I'm on the

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East Coast, and of course I grew up in southern California,

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so Dodgers were. You know, we all bled Dodger Blue.

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My little league team was the Dodgers. So here we are,

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and and I was up every night except that, you know,

1329
01:13:12.720 --> 01:13:16.359
when the eighteenth inning game happened, it was about you know,

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tenth inning. I'm on the East coast, so it's way

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past my bedtime. I mean, it's way, it's after midnight,

1332
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and I go, I just gonna have to wait and

1333
01:13:25.039 --> 01:13:27.279
get the final score and see what happens. In fact,

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I got up a couple of times in the middle

1335
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of the night, and I stayed away from my cell

1336
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phone because I didn't want to. I didn't want to

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get the results and then get you know, amped up

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and you know, not be able to go back to sleep.

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So I waited until the next morning to find out that,

1340
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you know, it was Freddie hit a home run, walk

1341
01:13:44.039 --> 01:13:46.600
off home run and won the game. But yeah, what

1342
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a great contest. But you know, I only bring that up,

1343
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Mills because you know, I didn't hear a lot about

1344
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the parade, which I thought was good because we didn't

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hear a lot here on the East. In fact, I

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had I was hard pressed fine being the game, believe

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it or not, because I was in an event and

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I was trying to find a game in Florida. I couldn't.

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I went up and down the radio dial a MFM. Finally,

1350
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you know, was able to get you know, the last

1351
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two innings in and could hear what was going on.

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Of course, my brother said, well that's all you needed

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to hear, I said, well, I don't know, but anyway,

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it be that as it may. Usually when teams winning

1355
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teams have their parades, there's you know, police cars being

1356
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burnt up and you know, all these rides breakout and everything.

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But it seems that La from what I hear, was

1358
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pretty calm.

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Well, on the night of the of their victory, there

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was a bit of rioting in Echo Park, that sort

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of thing. Probably the Angelino Heights clicka, you know, going

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out and tagging things up as they want to do.

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You know, this is what I want to say about

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the series, two very evenly matched teams. Yes, consistently, the

1365
01:14:55.039 --> 01:15:00.319
Toronto team played better baseball in most ways of than

1366
01:15:00.359 --> 01:15:05.720
the pitching. And this has to be the most racist

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nation in the history of the world. Seventy eighty years

1368
01:15:09.760 --> 01:15:12.199
ago we were at war with Japan, and now the

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two most recognizable fine athletes in professional baseball aren't Japanese Americans.

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They're Japanese Japanese and they are very respected in American sports.

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That's how racist this nation is. God bless Yamamoto and

1372
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Otani for their fantastic representation, great sportsmanship, that sort of thing.

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I also want to give a salute to the Toronto team.

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They did a great job. There wasn't a lot of

1375
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acrimony or shittiness between the teams, and that's what I

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like to see. I like to see good sportsmanship.

1377
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Yeah, it was a great series to watch, and yes,

1378
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congratulations to all. And I think A Rod said that

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no matter this was before you know, the end of

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the seventh game. I think going into the seventh he says,

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no matter who wins or who loses, you know, it's

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going to be disappointing for one and elation for the other.

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But you could tell the Dodgers they left everything out

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on the field, right, I mean they were and even

1385
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you know, even the pitcher, I mean, he just it

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kind of reminded me. And I can't remember the series date,

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but when orl Hirscheiser had pitched and he was you

1388
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saw him in the dugout. He was totally spent, you know,

1389
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and he was just he was gone. And I think

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Johnny Carson may have been Johnny Carson or can't remember

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who one of the late night hosts was.

1392
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It was nineteen eighty nine, so it would have been Johnny.

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Yeah, so he says, well, what were you doing there?

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And he says, I was praying. He just I just was,

1395
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you know, and you could tell he was just hanging

1396
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on by the grace of God. But anyway, like you said,

1397
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it was it was a great, great series, and happy

1398
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for that. But you know, you bring up a good

1399
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point about about sports, and it's it's merit. It's based

1400
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on you know, it isn't the color of your skin.

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Can you hit the ball, Can you throw the ball

1402
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at first base getting out? Can you run the bases

1403
01:17:04.960 --> 01:17:07.439
and help the team win? That's what it's all about.

1404
01:17:07.439 --> 01:17:09.840
I don't care if you're pink, purple, whatever, Right.

1405
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Can you take a hit and get back up on

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your feet and play some more?

1407
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That's right.

1408
01:17:15.399 --> 01:17:19.600
Yeah, that's sportsmanship. And really what Americans are hungry for

1409
01:17:19.840 --> 01:17:23.359
more than anything else, Bill, I think is honest competition

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01:17:24.119 --> 01:17:27.319
where nobody interferes on my behalf. I don't need somebody

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doing something for me. I'm an American man. I can

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stand up on my own feet, whether I'm the poorest

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man in this country or the wealthiest man in this country.

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That's what makes the United States a great country.

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Amen. Yeah, And we don't need we don't need men

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playing in women's sports. You know all this perversion and

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depravity that has come upon us.

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Particularly, No, I look pretty good in a two piece

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bathing suit, there.

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Bell, you think, so, huh, well I do. I know

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that there's something wrong with your glasses. We're gonna have

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We're gonna out. But now, you know, it's just getting

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back to common sense, having a moment, take a breath.

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And but I think there's enough information out there, Nils,

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in the marketplace for people to make the right decision.

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You know, you need to see who is who is

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doing right by you, Who can run this government as

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big as it is, who can do some trimming, some

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needed trimming, you know that needs to happen, because it's

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beyond management. I mean, here we are, I mean we're

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overwhelmed with illegal immigrants. We've got to clean this up,

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you know, so that we have safe streets and and

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then have a constituency that is for each other, that is,

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you know, is concerned for the their fellow citizen, that

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they want the best, you know, for them, not to,

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as you say, come in and interfere with you know,

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with your basic life choices and whatever. It's just hey,

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just don't I've been saying, don't do you know, do

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no you know, it's like the doctor's code, do no harm.

1440
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You know.

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I think if we live with one another and do

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no harm towards one another, I think we'll be a

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lot better off.

1444
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We need a few a few less able bodied men,

1445
01:19:12.800 --> 01:19:16.600
able bodied women writing the wagon. We need more men

1446
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pulling the wagon and fewer writing in it. We have

1447
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a lot of people who don't like to compete, and

1448
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that is the lure of socialism, because socialism promises you

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a normal middle class life if you with without necessarily competing,

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that you can just sit at home and everything will

1451
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be provided for you. Well, that's not how it works.

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Everybody gets equally poor under that system. And it is

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death to the human spirit to not come exactly our

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binary competitive people.

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Yeah, it is our very nature to be this way.

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And even you know, like you say, the people who

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have are gaming the system. They're not very.

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Happy, you know, the miserable.

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01:19:58.479 --> 01:20:03.239
Yeah, and so socialism promotes misery, shared misery.

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And uh.

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And so you know, hopefully in New York, somehow, by

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the grace of God, the count is correct and you know,

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01:20:13.720 --> 01:20:16.920
and New York is saved. Otherwise, the people of New

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York are gonna have to realize. Okay, the you know,

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like Barack Obama says, elections have consequences.

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Well, I think that uh you know, uh, New York

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01:20:28.800 --> 01:20:31.880
City is probably going to vote for Mom. Donkey. They

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they they haven't tasted enough of the of the Bandini

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burrito yet. They're going to find out pretty quickly.

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Right well, and you think after eight years of you know,

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they're the one before. His name escaped me all of

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a sudden, and I no, no before Adams oh Blasio

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01:20:53.319 --> 01:20:56.199
de Blasio. Yes, I I could. I could just picture

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01:20:56.239 --> 01:20:59.680
him because I have ingrained in my brain pills. I

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know you saw this, but he was having he was putting,

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he was putting coconut on his pizza, and I got

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I gotta imagine in New York that's like a mortal sin.

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I don't know how the guy survived.

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Well, okay, what can I see? I don't think New

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York has had good leadership since the days of Rudy Giuliani.

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I mean, they want to cram on Rudy Giuliani. Rudy

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Giuliani is a first class American man from start to finish.

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Okay, yes, yeah, yeah, there's no doubt that he saved

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him and even Bloomberg, for you know, his term was

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much better.

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I get it.

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I mean he wasn't Julianni.

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01:21:38.840 --> 01:21:42.680
No, Bill, you're correct, but but but but Bloomberg he

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01:21:42.840 --> 01:21:45.960
sold out toward the end. He went with with all.

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He wanted to be one of the cool kids, and

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he didn't realize how badly they were laughing at him.

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01:21:51.520 --> 01:21:53.960
But Bloomberg couldn't run and win today.

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01:21:54.520 --> 01:21:57.840
Yeah, no, no, no doubt no. I agree with you. Well,

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01:21:58.000 --> 01:22:00.520
and then you know, of course what's happening in Jersey.

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I love Chittarelli. I think that you know, the the

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other the other person. Her name helped me out, Mikey, Mikey, Mikeriel,

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Mikey Cheryl.

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Yeah.

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I mean her uh misrepresentation uh in the Naval Academy,

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and that she can't pass up about that. That's problematic

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outside of the fact that she just supports all these

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01:22:22.520 --> 01:22:26.359
progressive democratic uh prince Ville that are.

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Terrible sorry for herself, and she she she attracts voters

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who feel sorry for themselves. Let me, can I point

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something out here, Bill, We have a vast collection of

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01:22:36.279 --> 01:22:41.760
ruling class women, many of them white, not all, who

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believe themselves to be living on a scale of oppression

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somewhere between Gendarc and Rosa Parks.

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Okay, that's it, Yeah, that's that's that's a drop your

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Mike moment right there, Neils, You do not say anything else,

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Hey, good morning, Welcome back Bill Martinez here. Good to

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have you with us. We've got Whitney Studham's going to

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be joining us in just a few moments to talk about,

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you know, Medicare and enablement. It's so important. She's a

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vice president of Medicare Enablement. I should say, and with

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the holidays just around the corner, millions of Americans right now,

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just like you, are making Medicare coverage decisions amid the

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annual enrollment period, the critical ten week window when eligible

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individuals can change their plans. It is important that people

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do their research every year, as picking the right plan

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can help beneficiary save time, money, even contribute to overall

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well being. As I mentioned, nationally recognized Medicare expert Whitney

1601
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Stidham is the stindamers. I'm sorry, am I saying that correct?

1602
01:28:03.079 --> 01:28:06.079
It is Didham? Okay, I did say it correctly. Whitney

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Stadham of eHealth is here to help you navigate this

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year's enrollment season, which is being driven by significant plan

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changes and rising costs, and provide actionable steps for beneficiaries

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to select the right plan for them. Whitney, welcome, Michelle.

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Great to have you with us.

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Thanks for having me well.

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And I like that you say this is something we

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should do every year, because I know sometimes you know,

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we get so busy, we say, well, just let it roll.

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But if we do that, we're going to miss out

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on certain benefits that come up that are just endemic

1614
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to that particular year, right, right, Yeah.

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It is recommended that you review your Medicare plan annually,

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and that's important because plans can change from year to year,

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so insurance companies are making changes to their benefits, copays, premiums,

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you know, out of pocket costs, but also your individual

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needs can change from year to year as well. And

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while the annual enrollment happens every year from October fifteenth

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through December seventh, this year it's especially important to review

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your plan and the options in your area because we

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are seeing some more significant changes for twenty twenty six

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than we've seen in some past years.

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Right, So this is a must, and it's also why,

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you know, let's talk about first steps, because we want

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to make sure that you're selecting the right plan for yourself.

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So what's the first step to take?

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Whitney.

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Yeah, you know, whether you're new to Medicare or you're

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looking to change plans and you've been on Medicare advantage

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or prescription plan for a while, the good place to

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start is eHealth dot com. We make it really easy

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to review your Medicare plan options side by side. You can,

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you know, input your current plan and then compare the

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other plans in your area side by side. We make

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it really easy also to enroll if you find a

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different plan that fits your needs.

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Okay, what if it it's the first time, I'm navigating

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this for the first time. What's my first step they take?

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Yeah, first step, you know, is you can go to

1642
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eHealth dot com. You can enter in your doctors, your

1643
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prescription medications, and you can compare the different options available

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to you. I also recommend, you know, if it's your

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first year in medicare, can feel really overwhelming and confusing.

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I've been in the medicare world, an insurance world for

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twenty years, but when my mom turned sixty five and

1648
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was enrolling in medicare, I realized, man, it really, it

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really is complicated, and so talking to a licensed insurance

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agent can just help take the guesswork out of it.

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You know, licensed insurance agents that understand medicare, understand insurance

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and can just help you navigate that.

1653
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Right, So that even though the website is very powerful

1654
01:30:54.239 --> 01:30:58.239
and very informative and helpful, you still recommend, you know,

1655
01:30:58.439 --> 01:31:00.359
talking with a consult.

1656
01:31:01.479 --> 01:31:03.479
Yeah, yeah, it could definitely be helpful. And if you

1657
01:31:03.880 --> 01:31:05.880
you know, if you want to stay online and kind

1658
01:31:05.920 --> 01:31:08.720
of do it your own. We do have chat agents

1659
01:31:08.760 --> 01:31:11.920
available as well, which can you know, if you don't

1660
01:31:11.920 --> 01:31:13.840
want to talk on the phone and you'd prefer to

1661
01:31:13.880 --> 01:31:16.119
stay online, you can still get help that way from

1662
01:31:16.159 --> 01:31:17.279
a licensed agent.

1663
01:31:18.439 --> 01:31:20.640
And the thing is is that you know because sometimes

1664
01:31:20.720 --> 01:31:24.199
you know, because we're in the final weeks of this

1665
01:31:24.359 --> 01:31:27.039
enrollment period and it can add a little bit of stress.

1666
01:31:27.319 --> 01:31:30.600
So just relax. It's okay. Millions of people. It's like

1667
01:31:30.680 --> 01:31:34.359
I remember when I took my first driver's lesson, you know,

1668
01:31:34.439 --> 01:31:37.960
the instructor said, you know, said, hey, look at millions

1669
01:31:38.039 --> 01:31:40.159
of kids just like you have been here. It's okay,

1670
01:31:40.439 --> 01:31:43.880
You're going to be fine. Just breathe. And I would

1671
01:31:43.920 --> 01:31:46.720
say again here, even though you may be sixty five

1672
01:31:46.800 --> 01:31:49.840
and doing this for the first time, Uh, just breathe, Relax,

1673
01:31:49.920 --> 01:31:52.560
it's going to be okay. Don't put yourself in a

1674
01:31:52.640 --> 01:31:55.000
situation where you've got to do something in five minutes.

1675
01:31:55.039 --> 01:31:56.840
It's going to take a little bit more time than that, right.

1676
01:31:58.079 --> 01:32:00.600
Yeah, yeah, I can take some time and it can

1677
01:32:00.680 --> 01:32:03.640
be stressful, but it doesn't have to be you know,

1678
01:32:03.880 --> 01:32:07.199
So definitely, I would I would suggest setting aside, you know,

1679
01:32:07.359 --> 01:32:11.319
forty five minutes at least to review your different plan options.

1680
01:32:12.199 --> 01:32:15.239
If you're doing it with a licensed insurance agent you know,

1681
01:32:15.359 --> 01:32:18.880
can take twenty minutes to forty five minutes, or if

1682
01:32:18.880 --> 01:32:20.319
you do it online, probably a little bit.

1683
01:32:20.319 --> 01:32:21.720
Longer if you do it on yourself.

1684
01:32:22.439 --> 01:32:25.159
But like you said, planning, an organization is key. So

1685
01:32:25.359 --> 01:32:29.319
the organization aspect of you know, having your doctor's name,

1686
01:32:29.680 --> 01:32:33.319
you know, just have it all together any medication. This

1687
01:32:33.520 --> 01:32:36.399
is going to really expedite the process and you'll start

1688
01:32:36.439 --> 01:32:39.520
filling in the boxes and you'll be surprised how quick

1689
01:32:39.600 --> 01:32:42.159
that moves along, right, because that goes a long way. Otherwise,

1690
01:32:42.439 --> 01:32:43.720
if it's oh I get a way, they're going to

1691
01:32:43.760 --> 01:32:45.439
go look in the cupboard over here for this and that.

1692
01:32:45.800 --> 01:32:49.239
Get it all together, you know, get organized, and it

1693
01:32:49.279 --> 01:32:50.439
will pay dividends for you.

1694
01:32:50.600 --> 01:32:50.720
Right.

1695
01:32:51.760 --> 01:32:56.880
Absolutely, absolutely have a list of the doctor's prescriptions, excuse me,

1696
01:32:57.439 --> 01:32:59.479
and then also have a copy of your medicare ID

1697
01:32:59.680 --> 01:33:02.039
card because if you want to change plans, you'll need

1698
01:33:02.119 --> 01:33:03.760
that medicare ID number as well.

1699
01:33:04.000 --> 01:33:06.640
So yeah, you've got to love it right.

1700
01:33:06.880 --> 01:33:09.439
Well you can tell see I've I've made all those mistakes.

1701
01:33:09.479 --> 01:33:12.880
That's why I said, you know, so when you said

1702
01:33:13.159 --> 01:33:16.920
you know, plan get organized, get all this together. I'll

1703
01:33:16.960 --> 01:33:19.479
tell you it was by the second the third time

1704
01:33:19.520 --> 01:33:21.039
I was doing this, I was like, I felt like

1705
01:33:21.079 --> 01:33:24.079
a pro. I mean I had this all down. But again.

1706
01:33:24.960 --> 01:33:28.119
And the other caution here as you, as you recommend Witney,

1707
01:33:28.159 --> 01:33:30.319
is that this is something you want to do every year.

1708
01:33:30.399 --> 01:33:33.920
I mean, just plan just like a like a health checkup.

1709
01:33:34.359 --> 01:33:36.319
I mean, this is something that should be on the calendar.

1710
01:33:36.479 --> 01:33:40.600
This window is generally the same, right, you know, every year,

1711
01:33:41.159 --> 01:33:44.520
and uh so you can anticipate and then of course

1712
01:33:45.199 --> 01:33:48.520
you know what happens whenever you hear or read news

1713
01:33:48.560 --> 01:33:51.439
bulletins about Medicare updates and all that. Uh you know,

1714
01:33:51.640 --> 01:33:54.640
organize set that aside too, so you can ask your

1715
01:33:54.720 --> 01:33:57.000
consultant say, hey, what about this. Is this going to

1716
01:33:57.039 --> 01:33:59.239
have an effect? Is it relevant or not? And you

1717
01:33:59.319 --> 01:34:02.119
know that helps as well, right yep.

1718
01:34:02.119 --> 01:34:02.920
Yep exactly.

1719
01:34:03.359 --> 01:34:06.479
And you know every year, you know, annual enrollment period

1720
01:34:06.560 --> 01:34:09.880
is every year October fifteenth through December seventh, So definitely

1721
01:34:10.319 --> 01:34:13.600
mark your calendars and don't wait till the last minute.

1722
01:34:14.479 --> 01:34:16.880
I always tell people, the longer you wait, the longer

1723
01:34:16.960 --> 01:34:20.039
you'll wait, because if you wait till that last week,

1724
01:34:20.119 --> 01:34:22.800
you will be waiting on the phone on hold for

1725
01:34:22.880 --> 01:34:26.239
a while to reach somebody, because especially this year, we

1726
01:34:26.359 --> 01:34:29.560
are seeing more significant changes and more people needing help

1727
01:34:30.560 --> 01:34:32.960
to navigate all the changes this.

1728
01:34:33.079 --> 01:34:36.199
Year so well, and it's like you say, the longer

1729
01:34:36.239 --> 01:34:40.159
you wait, and it's like more stress you're adding unnecessarily.

1730
01:34:42.000 --> 01:34:46.920
Whitney Stadium is the vice president of Medicare Enablement at eHealth.

1731
01:34:47.159 --> 01:34:50.960
It's a leading online health insurance marketplace that helps consumers

1732
01:34:51.079 --> 01:34:54.960
just like you and may confidently navigate their health benefit decisions.

1733
01:34:55.960 --> 01:34:57.800
You can make it easy or you can make it hard,

1734
01:34:58.039 --> 01:35:01.479
and Whitney's here to help us make it easy, if

1735
01:35:01.560 --> 01:35:07.319
not easier. You mentioned that this year especially lots of changes,

1736
01:35:07.760 --> 01:35:10.880
so this is really key. So it might require some

1737
01:35:11.239 --> 01:35:13.760
a little bit more dedication and commitment to go through

1738
01:35:14.000 --> 01:35:16.720
these changes. We've got a couple of minutes left. Let's

1739
01:35:16.760 --> 01:35:20.359
highlight some of those changes. What should we anticipate, Whitney.

1740
01:35:20.920 --> 01:35:21.840
Yeah, absolutely so.

1741
01:35:21.960 --> 01:35:27.000
We are seeing, you know, monthly premiums are changing and increasing,

1742
01:35:27.640 --> 01:35:31.720
annual deductibles are increasing, out of pocket costs just in

1743
01:35:31.880 --> 01:35:36.079
general are increasing, and then we're also seeing some plans

1744
01:35:36.199 --> 01:35:40.720
that are exiting the market entirely, so really important. I've

1745
01:35:40.720 --> 01:35:43.720
got three tips for a less stressful enrollment period, and

1746
01:35:43.800 --> 01:35:48.079
the first one is, if you're on Medicare Advantage plan

1747
01:35:48.279 --> 01:35:50.439
or a Part D plan, review the annual notice of

1748
01:35:50.560 --> 01:35:54.079
change letter that should have been received in mailboxes in September,

1749
01:35:54.279 --> 01:35:56.560
and that letter is going to outline the key changes

1750
01:35:56.680 --> 01:35:59.119
to the plan. Or you know, if your plan is

1751
01:35:59.199 --> 01:36:01.279
no longer going to be offered, then it'll tell you

1752
01:36:01.399 --> 01:36:04.359
that as well, and just knowing those changes can help

1753
01:36:04.399 --> 01:36:07.319
you decide if your current plan is still meeting your needs.

1754
01:36:07.479 --> 01:36:10.800
And then the second is to do it an individual

1755
01:36:11.319 --> 01:36:16.079
needs assessment and understand you know, have health conditions changed,

1756
01:36:16.199 --> 01:36:20.439
maybe you're taking new prescription medications, financial circumstances that can

1757
01:36:20.520 --> 01:36:23.760
all change from year to year, and then compare different

1758
01:36:23.800 --> 01:36:27.359
plan options in your area. On average, people have over

1759
01:36:27.600 --> 01:36:30.760
forty Medicare Advantage plans to choose from in their area,

1760
01:36:31.439 --> 01:36:33.720
and a lot of people you know incorrectly think that

1761
01:36:33.760 --> 01:36:36.439
they're all generally the same, but out of pocket costs

1762
01:36:36.479 --> 01:36:40.000
can vary pretty significantly from plan to plan, so really

1763
01:36:40.079 --> 01:36:42.840
key to compare those different plans. And then third is

1764
01:36:43.199 --> 01:36:44.439
again get expert guidance.

1765
01:36:44.520 --> 01:36:45.600
You don't have to do it alone.

1766
01:36:45.720 --> 01:36:47.560
You don't have to sort through all the medicure different

1767
01:36:48.039 --> 01:36:52.279
plan options by yourself. It can be very daunting and

1768
01:36:52.399 --> 01:36:57.119
so for less stressful experience working with a licensed insurance agent.

1769
01:36:57.720 --> 01:37:01.800
You know that service is available at cost, no oblimation

1770
01:37:01.960 --> 01:37:04.520
to enroll, and they can help recommend a plan based

1771
01:37:04.560 --> 01:37:05.279
on your needs.

1772
01:37:06.439 --> 01:37:09.000
Well, Whitney, how about a website they can go to

1773
01:37:09.119 --> 01:37:09.800
for more information?

1774
01:37:10.760 --> 01:37:13.920
Yeah, more information. You can go to eHealth dot com

1775
01:37:14.279 --> 01:37:16.760
or call one eight hundred eHealth. And again, we make

1776
01:37:16.800 --> 01:37:20.039
it really easy to compare plans side by side from

1777
01:37:20.079 --> 01:37:22.479
many of the nation's leading insurance companies.

1778
01:37:23.239 --> 01:37:26.279
Well, Whitney, you've been absolutely wonderful with this great information

1779
01:37:26.399 --> 01:37:28.199
that you shared with us. She's the vice president of

1780
01:37:28.279 --> 01:37:31.439
Medicare Enablement. Whitney Sidham has been our guest. Whitney, thank

1781
01:37:31.439 --> 01:37:32.800
you so much for being with us. Take care.

1782
01:37:33.640 --> 01:37:34.159
Yeah, thank you.

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Bill, You know I'm an underdog.

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Know, the Fountain brow whatever.

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I was like, got to read it.

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all the odds are stacked up against her black girl

1889
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in the South, segregation, all this stuff, you know that

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was going on. That's a sad part of our history.

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I get that. But still this young girl is living

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it out and in spite of that, she learns to read,

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she learns to write. She's very articulate. I mean, talk

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about a renaissance child dropped into you know, the early

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nineteen hundreds, right, Yeah, But you.

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Know she didn't have special abilities with What I love

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about the story is here's somebody who came from absolute nothing.

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I mean, this took place in Oklahoma. She was a

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former enslaved member of the Creek Nation. She had no

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business doing what she did, and that spoke to me

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because we have so much privilege and so much opportunity

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and so many chances myself personally I'm talking about And

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when I read this story about somebody who started with

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nothing and became a huge millionaire and then was a

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philanthropist and a benefactor for causes, I was just so

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inspired because it says, hey, if I can do this,

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anybody can do it.

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If I can make this movie, there's hope for you.

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Because this was a hard road to hoe.

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It was difficult.

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Well plus the background, I mean, she was enslaved and

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involved with the crick Nation as opposed to what people

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think about traditional slavery attributes.

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Right yeah, but you know, it's a hopeful movie. It's

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an inspirational movie. It's not a downer movie where you

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feel bad or it is. It's a really story about

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whatever dream you have, whatever inversity you encounter, whatever resistance.

1918
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It can be in direct proportion to the amount of

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impact you're going to have. But you have to have

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faith that the worthless land, and we've all been given

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some worthless land. Like Sarah, you have to believe there's

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something more here. And for her it was never about

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getting rich, although she did get rich. You're really about

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going for her dream and just not taking no for

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an answer. And I love that inspirational, hopeful, feel good

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movie that we made.

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So that's pretty especially John, when you have the faith

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component involved, as you did in this young girl's life.

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I mean, she believed in God and felt like God

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had made this available to her. Her mom as well,

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you know, kind of partnered with her and agreed with

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that testimony. Right yeah.

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You know there's a famous quote, but I think a

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guy named Malcolm Muggeridge who said God's speaking to us

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all the time. The secret of life is getting the message,

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and she was willing to listen. And I think if

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people see this movie, listen to her story. You hear

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God's voice. She heard it from the land speaking to her.

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There's more below the surface than what appears. And she

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responded it in obedience required great faith. But that's what

1941
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our journey of faith is about, is trust and going

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out and getting a little help from family, little help

1943
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from friends, and a lot of help from.

1944
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Your faith, right exactly. And the thing is is that

1945
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you know the Psalmist writes that all creation speaks. It's speaking.

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Are we listening? And this young girl is listening, right, Yeah.

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And you've got to have ears. You've got to be quiet,

1948
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you've got to be still. You've got to sit in

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a movie theater for ninety minutes and not check your

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cell phone and not be busy. It's time for us

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01:46:15.720 --> 01:46:17.960
all to take a breast. And it also says in scripture,

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I think rest in the Lord, wait for.

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Him to act.

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And she had no ability to do any of these things,

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but she had a conviction of persuasion. She heard a

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word and she was obedient to it.

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I love that well. And look at the odds that

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were against her. John Right, I mean at every turn

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you got people there in Oklahoma, Wealthy people, greedy people

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saw it, you know, saw her as somebody that they

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could take advantage of. And she held to her instinct

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in her faith, and that's what got her through and

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was able to you know, I guess position her to

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become a victor as opposed to victim.

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Yeah.

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I think that she really took it upon herself to

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just not look at all the circumstances. And that's why

1968
01:47:08.720 --> 01:47:10.920
I think it's so relevant for what we're dealing with today,

1969
01:47:11.439 --> 01:47:13.439
is we tend to look at the circumstances and all

1970
01:47:13.520 --> 01:47:16.279
the negativity and listen to the lies and the discouragement

1971
01:47:16.359 --> 01:47:19.439
and the division. And instead she just just chose, instead

1972
01:47:19.439 --> 01:47:21.600
of cursing the darkness, I'm going to light a candle

1973
01:47:21.960 --> 01:47:24.439
and he enlisted the Look, there are good people on

1974
01:47:24.520 --> 01:47:26.720
both sides of the aisle, good people that are black

1975
01:47:26.760 --> 01:47:30.760
and white and native and not. It's really she had

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to find people that would believe with her, that would

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01:47:33.680 --> 01:47:36.600
have faith with her, and that took family, that took friends,

1978
01:47:36.680 --> 01:47:40.199
that took faith. And guess what, I love that scripture

1979
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and what is it Corinthians. It talks about faith, hope, love.

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You know these will remain, But what's the greatest of those?

1981
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That's what this movie is about. And if you don't

1982
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know the answer, go see the movie. What's the greatest

1983
01:47:51.319 --> 01:47:52.640
the faith, hope and love? You know?

1984
01:47:52.800 --> 01:47:54.960
Well? And you see it manifest in such a way

1985
01:47:55.000 --> 01:47:58.840
that it had an impact on one of her benefactors, right,

1986
01:47:59.199 --> 01:48:01.640
I mean he was He sat there said, you know,

1987
01:48:02.439 --> 01:48:06.600
you really opened up my vision, my understanding of faith,

1988
01:48:06.680 --> 01:48:09.399
and watching how you exampled that, I mean, that's quite

1989
01:48:09.439 --> 01:48:10.880
the testimony, right John.

1990
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It is, Bill, It's so reminiscent of my own journey.

1991
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You know, as a filmmaker, you set out to tell

1992
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a story that you think the world needs to learn.

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01:48:19.359 --> 01:48:21.800
The world needs to get this message, and at the

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01:48:21.880 --> 01:48:23.840
end of the day, this is how our Lord works.

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01:48:23.880 --> 01:48:26.359
It's like, actually, John, you're the one who needs to

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01:48:26.399 --> 01:48:28.840
get the message. And I feel like Bert in the movie,

1997
01:48:28.880 --> 01:48:31.079
and I think many will that, Oh, it's not about

1998
01:48:31.159 --> 01:48:33.680
hitting the mother load, getting the big win, making the

1999
01:48:33.720 --> 01:48:37.000
big movie. It's about how we do what we do,

2000
01:48:37.199 --> 01:48:39.239
not just what we're doing or how much we're making.

2001
01:48:39.560 --> 01:48:42.439
So you know, to hear you relate that part of

2002
01:48:42.479 --> 01:48:46.479
the story is that I often catch myself smiling as

2003
01:48:46.520 --> 01:48:50.239
you do. Is that God will use us and to

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01:48:50.399 --> 01:48:52.920
teach us the very things that we need to learn ourselves.

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01:48:53.520 --> 01:48:54.760
Right yeah, you know.

2006
01:48:54.800 --> 01:48:57.520
There's a line in the movie that says she's talking

2007
01:48:57.520 --> 01:48:59.720
about her teacher and she says, mss Tant says, everything

2008
01:48:59.800 --> 01:49:02.960
in life has value, moral, spiritual or economic.

2009
01:49:03.119 --> 01:49:04.399
What do we have a value?

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01:49:04.520 --> 01:49:06.560
And I want people to take away from this movie

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01:49:06.680 --> 01:49:10.359
kids especially, but anybody who has a dream as a kid, right, yes,

2012
01:49:10.520 --> 01:49:12.720
I want them to think about what do you have

2013
01:49:13.000 --> 01:49:15.359
of value? People have told you lie? Do you stolen

2014
01:49:15.399 --> 01:49:16.319
from you, discouraged, you.

2015
01:49:16.359 --> 01:49:18.920
Stopped on your dream? But what do you have a value?

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01:49:18.960 --> 01:49:21.159
You've got something that's been given to you with your

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01:49:21.239 --> 01:49:23.520
name on it. It's like a deed to property.

2018
01:49:23.840 --> 01:49:25.760
But what you do with it is up to you.

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Only you can control that. What are you going to

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01:49:28.199 --> 01:49:30.720
do with what's been given to you? As little as

2021
01:49:30.760 --> 01:49:33.000
it may be seem to be? And for her it

2022
01:49:33.159 --> 01:49:35.800
was unsuitable for farming a bunch of rocks and lizards

2023
01:49:35.840 --> 01:49:39.800
and weeds, But out of that came fountains of joy.

2024
01:49:40.119 --> 01:49:42.800
So well, I'll tell you, yeah, I'm glad you mentioned

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01:49:43.800 --> 01:49:47.199
you know, those three elements, because those are core elements

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01:49:47.279 --> 01:49:48.159
to life, aren't they.

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01:49:49.079 --> 01:49:51.000
Yeah, and I think it's more needed. You know, we

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01:49:51.159 --> 01:49:55.000
need oil more than ever in our society. As scripture

2029
01:49:55.039 --> 01:49:57.840
talks about oil, and it was used for fuel, it

2030
01:49:57.960 --> 01:50:00.520
was used for light, it was used for an anointing.

2031
01:50:00.760 --> 01:50:04.600
God's chosen for works of service. And I think you're

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01:50:04.600 --> 01:50:06.279
going to come out of this movie either getting a

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01:50:06.319 --> 01:50:08.319
little bit oil or you're going to be covered like

2034
01:50:08.520 --> 01:50:11.680
Sarah going oh exactly, I want to use my gifts

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to do something of service for others.

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Yeah.

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I think that you come away and you want to

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01:50:16.960 --> 01:50:21.000
be like her, you know, just spinning and twirling and

2039
01:50:21.760 --> 01:50:24.399
in a way, you know, just praising God for what

2040
01:50:24.560 --> 01:50:28.199
he did out of natural resources. And I'm sure. I

2041
01:50:28.239 --> 01:50:30.600
mean here, she was so young and then you know,

2042
01:50:30.640 --> 01:50:33.760
I was reading a PostScript about her that she ended

2043
01:50:33.840 --> 01:50:36.399
up marrying at the age of eighteen, right.

2044
01:50:36.359 --> 01:50:39.319
Yeah, yeah, yeah, she you know, she was a It's

2045
01:50:39.359 --> 01:50:43.560
a story about relationships, and it's really her friendship with Bert,

2046
01:50:43.640 --> 01:50:45.840
this sort of benefactor of Wildcat or we don't know

2047
01:50:45.840 --> 01:50:47.840
whether he's a good guy or a bad guy. He's

2048
01:50:47.960 --> 01:50:50.199
been a con man in the past, but this is

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01:50:50.239 --> 01:50:53.520
what life is. We're mixing it up in relationship with others,

2050
01:50:53.560 --> 01:50:54.159
and it's friction.

2051
01:50:54.319 --> 01:50:54.439
You know.

2052
01:50:54.520 --> 01:50:57.920
We've got families got problems. The Rector family has problems,

2053
01:50:57.960 --> 01:51:01.119
but they come together and they get behind their daughter

2054
01:51:01.239 --> 01:51:04.239
and say, Okay, we're gonna let you pursue your dream.

2055
01:51:04.600 --> 01:51:07.279
But not that they weren't worried, not that there wasn't

2056
01:51:07.319 --> 01:51:10.279
great risk, but we also know that great risk there can't.

2057
01:51:10.119 --> 01:51:10.840
Be great gain.

2058
01:51:11.319 --> 01:51:14.079
Well, John Shepherd, we got to remind everybody this is

2059
01:51:14.119 --> 01:51:14.800
a true story.

2060
01:51:15.399 --> 01:51:18.159
Yeah, right back, we didn't know a lot about her.

2061
01:51:18.239 --> 01:51:20.520
We really had a dig. We had a Princeton historian

2062
01:51:20.800 --> 01:51:23.439
named Tanya Bolden who wrote a book called Searching for

2063
01:51:23.600 --> 01:51:26.079
Sarah Director. But this is a film for the family

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01:51:26.359 --> 01:51:28.680
because the kids come away from it going I want

2065
01:51:28.680 --> 01:51:30.479
to learn more about that girl, and you do the

2066
01:51:30.680 --> 01:51:34.359
research and it's all interesting online. What she We only

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01:51:34.399 --> 01:51:36.159
cover a few minutes of her life when she was

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01:51:36.239 --> 01:51:39.520
ten and eleven years old, but she has a fascinating, full,

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01:51:39.920 --> 01:51:42.399
rich life. And that's why I want to inspire people

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01:51:42.479 --> 01:51:46.159
to learn more and read more and then do more,

2071
01:51:46.359 --> 01:51:49.920
you know, be feel like, well, why can't I follow

2072
01:51:50.439 --> 01:51:51.840
a dream that I've heard?

2073
01:51:52.279 --> 01:51:56.159
Maybe I'm listening well. And the thing is, even after

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01:51:56.279 --> 01:51:59.840
this success as a result of her wealth, I mean,

2075
01:52:00.000 --> 01:52:02.560
this brings her into the orbit of some of the

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01:52:02.600 --> 01:52:06.560
most wealthy and influential people. Yeah, I mean it just

2077
01:52:06.680 --> 01:52:09.800
blows you a way that here it is this, you know,

2078
01:52:10.479 --> 01:52:14.920
perceptibly at that point in time, a less than who's mistreated.

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01:52:15.039 --> 01:52:17.920
She can't even go to and get a glass of

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01:52:18.039 --> 01:52:21.760
water at a cafe where she meets Burt, but then

2081
01:52:21.920 --> 01:52:23.439
ends up later on buying the cafe.

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01:52:23.600 --> 01:52:25.479
Right, you know, it's so cool.

2083
01:52:25.560 --> 01:52:28.760
And that again, there's all kinds of biblical truths that

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01:52:28.840 --> 01:52:30.199
I come I pull out of this. You see a

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01:52:30.239 --> 01:52:33.039
man skilled in his work, he will stand before kings.

2086
01:52:33.079 --> 01:52:33.960
I forget where that is.

2087
01:52:34.039 --> 01:52:37.000
But she stands literally before the kings of our country

2088
01:52:37.079 --> 01:52:40.079
at the time. But it was not because she was

2089
01:52:40.199 --> 01:52:42.279
trying to do that. She was just trying to hold

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01:52:42.359 --> 01:52:45.119
on to her gift and follow her dream and not

2091
01:52:45.239 --> 01:52:47.600
let people steal it take it from her her discourager.

2092
01:52:48.039 --> 01:52:51.399
And I think, wow, that's why such a God's story.

2093
01:52:51.520 --> 01:52:53.159
You know, we didn't set out to make a god story.

2094
01:52:53.239 --> 01:52:54.960
Was set up to make a story about an American

2095
01:52:55.079 --> 01:52:59.079
entrepreneur who overcame incredible adversity, but faith is always a

2096
01:52:59.159 --> 01:53:02.399
part of anybody overcoming incredible resistance and adversity.

2097
01:53:03.119 --> 01:53:06.720
Well, John Shepherd, congratulations on the movie. And the movie

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releases next week, right November seven.

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We want families to come out in forest, churches, small groups, communities.

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You know.

2101
01:53:13.520 --> 01:53:14.960
That's the kind of message we want to send to

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01:53:15.039 --> 01:53:17.560
Hollywood is more like this. Please, So this is a

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01:53:17.680 --> 01:53:19.319
film you can take the whole family to. And thank

2104
01:53:19.359 --> 01:53:21.359
you Bill for your support of projects like this and

2105
01:53:21.439 --> 01:53:24.000
taking the time to interview me. Keep up the good work, guys,

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01:53:24.119 --> 01:53:25.159
let me make the difference.

2107
01:53:25.520 --> 01:53:28.279
Well, bleasure heart, Thank you very much. That's quite the compliment.

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01:53:28.319 --> 01:53:31.159
I appreciate that, John Shepherd. The website they can.

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Go to, Yes, Sarah's Oil Inspires or Sarah's Oil Film

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01:53:37.439 --> 01:53:39.520
if you google that, or just go to YouTube and

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01:53:39.560 --> 01:53:42.000
type in Sarah's Oil trailer and there's all kinds of

2112
01:53:42.039 --> 01:53:44.159
stuff about the tickets and where it's playing, and you

2113
01:53:44.199 --> 01:53:46.079
can get your zip code in there and figure out,

2114
01:53:46.119 --> 01:53:48.840
oh there's a theater near me. Bring everybody you can.

2115
01:53:49.479 --> 01:53:51.439
They will be blessed. Let me tell you for sure.

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Sarah's Oil John Shepherd, thank you, Take care, God blessed.

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01:53:54.920 --> 01:53:56.399
Thank you so God bless you guys.

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