Nov. 5, 2025

The Bill Martinez Show 11 05 25

The Bill Martinez Show 11 05 25
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The Bill Martinez Show 11 05 25
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, okay, us do an Ill Martinez Live a program

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about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and

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our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Hey, right now, it's six minutes after the top of

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the hour. Bill Martinez. Here, We've got Eric Eggert join us.

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He's the research director for Government Accountability Institute. With a

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mouthful Eric, good morning. Good to have you with us.

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How are you hey, It's great to be with you, Bill,

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And the Government Accountability Institute is a lot of syllables,

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but we've had a big impact on a national level

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as well, so hopefully it's worth the effort.

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Well, I'll tell you what it is, something that America

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has been screaming from, you know, from the top of

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their roofs of accountability and you know, so thank god

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we've got somebody, you know, keeping the pressure on because

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this is what we're demanding, because you know, we've been saying,

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Eric that you see, part of accountability is there needs

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to be judgment and consequences. Without judgment and consequences, it

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just keeps on going. I mean, you'll have a job forever,

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but how frustrating is that going to be to continue

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to point out the infractions and then you know nothing's resolved.

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No, absolutely, And I think that's one of the reasons

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why people voted so overwhelmingly for Donald Trump is they

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saw what happens when you have this unaccountable deep state,

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literally led by somebody who was asleep at the wheel

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the auto pens signing all these pardons and Joe Biden's

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going to bed at four o'clock after some putting in

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an episode of Mattlocke, and so people.

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We're talking four o'clock in the afternoon, ladies and gentlemen,

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we're gonna talk about four o'clock in the morning.

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Okay, No, absolutely true. And so yeah, the government was

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kind of on autopilot, and that's what led to so

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many radical kind of uprising that people said, this is

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not who we are as a country. And so absolutely

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I think that people said, look, we want something different.

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There needs to be accountability. People chose that in twenty

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twenty four. I think they would have chosen it in

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twenty twenty had they not had some of the distractions

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and interference. And we've done a lot of research and

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discussion on that as well here at the Government Accountability Institute.

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Well, we've done a lot of research on it as well,

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and the question still remains a majority of Americans still

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do not believe in the numbers that were purported in

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the twenty twenty election. And I know for some people

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that makes them feel uncomfortable, But look at you're not

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proving any different. You know, bring your receipts and show

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me why you think it was a legitimate, free and

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fair election. But yet you want to threaten and say

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that Donald Trump is trying to execute an unfair election.

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Come twenty twenty six or twenty twenty eight.

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Bill So, I don't know if you know this, but

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actually wrote a book in twenty eighteen called Fraud, How

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the Left plans to steal the next election and then

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and then the twenty twenty election happens, and like so

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in my book which came again came on twenty eighteen,

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we talked about, hey, here are some examples of fraud

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that of the curb previously. Here are some systemic vulnerabilities

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that exist. You know, we've got errors on voter rolls.

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But everyone agrees that it used to be an uncontroversial thing

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to say that mail in balloting or absentee balloting is

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the least secure way in which you can conduct election.

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There were bipartisan commissions that said that, and then in

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twenty twenty, we mailed everybody ballot. We had the most

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votes ever cast in the least secure method ever. Joe Biden,

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who didn't leave his basement for six months, gets eight

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million more votes than anybody had previously gotten. And we're like, oh,

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it was the safest and fairest election in the history

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and the most accurate. And anybody who says otherwise is

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a terrorist. And we're all supposed to just shut up

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and say, oh, thank you, please give me another. And

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then people said, okay, well, let's do some common sense reforms.

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George says, maybe we should go back to the idea

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of political sterility, right, Maybe we shouldn't be allowed to

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pass out political pamphlets right next to the voting booth.

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Maybe we need to get political actors away from the

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people who are about to cast the ballot. And the

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left lost their minds so much so that they got

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Major League Baseball to move the All Star Game out

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of Atlanta. I'm just saying, it's like, you go back,

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you're like, was that a fever dream? What were we doing?

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And so, and then you're like oh, Donald Trump's the

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threat of democracy in twenty two four. Meanwhile, the people

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who actually said that didn't even have a primary for

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the candidate they foisted upon us and told us was

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the most qualified person ever. No, it's insane, and I

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think luckily the American people have woken up and realized

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when the people on the left say one thing, they

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clearly mean and have done another.

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Right. Yeah, they are. They're experts in gaslighting. And the

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thing is is that previously they had the mainstream media,

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entertainers and all this, you know, participating in this adventure

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that we were on for the last five years, and

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they've come up empty. And the American people, as you say,

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have woken up and said, uh, you know, you're bupkus.

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I'm not even going to pay attention to you anymore.

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So the mainstream media, along with the Democratic Party is

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out in the wilderness trying to figure out what's their

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reasons are.

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Well, and unfortunately that's where people like zoron Mom Donna

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become even more dangerous, right because they're out in the wilderness.

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They're looking for anything, and you know, and it's this

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interesting merger between the energy on the left has been

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with the Bernie Sanders and the AOC wing of the party,

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and you combine, so you've got a party who's led

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this gerontocracy, the Nancy Pelosis, the Chuck Schumers. They've let

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this progressive cultural Marxism take over. That's not what the

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American people want, so they don't know what to do.

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They're just trying to stay in power, and AOC and

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Bernie Sanders are trying to sell socialism. And then you've

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got this city of New York which has been run

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by Democrats for decades, and it's been run so poorly

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that it's so expensive in crime ridden that the citizens

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are like, look, we will do anything else, and like,

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how about a thirty three year old socialist with no

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real world experience and who's got connections to terrorist els

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Andre Like, I don't know, but the other guys the

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governor that was scandal plagued and killed my grandma. So

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I guess it sounds okay. And that's basically where they

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are in New York. And so people are going to

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see zoron Mom Donnie's elevation as a Democrat, acceptance of

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Democrat socialism, which I think is mistake. And that's actually

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one reason why I believe Republicans are sort of okay.

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The Republicans that don't live in New York anyway are

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okay with Mom Donnie's election because they think it helped

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them in twenty twenty six.

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It may help them on one hand, but yet the

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danger that ensues when you have a socialist taking over

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the biggest city in the country. And I have been

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maintaining Eric that the Republican Party should not surrender any

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ground whatsoever. I think they've done a poor job in

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administrating this and not supporting Curtis Sliwa because Curtis Sliwa,

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he's the lone Republican standard bearer in a sense in

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New York, and they need to keep that message of conservatism.

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And what has happened the successes of the Trump administration.

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You've got Republican policies that are flourishing not only in

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this country but around the world, and you've got problems

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in New York that are the result of democratic policies.

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The very thing that they've created is the very thing

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that supposing now the socialists are going to solve cool. Now, listen,

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and you're gonna tell me they didn't participate in that.

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At all well, Bill, listen, it's your show and it's

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your audience. But you know you've used the word gas

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line in earlier and I'm not gonna sit here and

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let you gaslight your audience and tell them that there's

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something dangerous about free buses, free child's care, government run

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grocery stores. That sounds like a utopia to me, mister Martinez. Okay,

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what could be wrong with that? It's obviously the right solution,

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which is why it's implemented so well in so many

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other places. Oh wait, the opposite is true, right, Kansas

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City got rid of their free bus program because it

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was a disaster. Actually, many of the migrants in New

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York don't like Mom Donnie because they actually run for

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profit grocery stores, and the idea of the government becoming

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a competitor to them is something they very much are

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in opposition to. The problem is is that people aren't

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smart enough. They don't have this real world experience to know,

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as you just said, how dangerous those policies actually are.

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And you're right. I think the Republicans that are okay

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with Mom Donnie's ascension for their own political purposes are cynical.

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And you know, they're seeding ground. But but I guess Bill, like,

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practically speaking, do you actually think Curtis Sleevewall with all

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the Republican support in the world, Like, let's say Donald

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Trump goes and hangs out in New York for two

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weeks and campaigns with sleeve Wall every day, which you

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know he's not going to. They have a complicated relationship.

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Do you actually think that would be enough to make

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a difference and get him over the line.

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No, I don't think he would win. I mean, it's

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sixty eight percent you know, Democrat, you know, in Manhattan,

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So I get that. But I'm just saying messaging wise, Yeah, Eric,

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you know, you cannot just stay vacant, and you know,

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you can't leave a void there because then it's then

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people are gonna think, well, you know, uh, mom Donnie

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must be the guy.

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Well, uh, you know. The funny thing about Mom Donnie

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is seventy eight percent of his donors actually don't live

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in New York, right, And so you know, and he's

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and this is this creation. It is very much like

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Obama in the sense of people see into him what

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they want to see in the overlook. I think the

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very the fact that he has a sort of vacant vessel.

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But it's a really interesting thing. If you watch the

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New York City mayorl debates, that they'll go from discussing

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whether there should be a two state solution in Israel

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and Palestine to then like, what are we gonna do

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about the rats and the traffic? So there are local

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issues that I think the voters care much more about

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than the geopolitical and cultural associations that the right is

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correctly attacking. Month Downey four right, he's trying to sell

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them the idea that what they currently have is not okay,

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which they agree with. He says he could do a

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better job, and you know, we think we know better.

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But at this point, I mean, if you lived in

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New York and you couldn't take the subway and you're

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worried about getting mugged on the street, and everything was

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super expensive, and Falafel's eight dollars when it's supposed to

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be six, which he made a campaign video about, you

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kind of understand the appeal.

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No, without a doubt, we've got to go to break.

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Welcome Back Bill Martinez here with Eric Agris. He's the

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vice president of research at the Government Accountability Institute and

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co host of its podcast To Drill Down. Eric, As

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we're just talking before the break about this money that is,

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you know, this network of money that's come into Mamdani's campaign.

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You said seventy percent is outside.

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Of New York, Yes, seventy eight percent or outside of

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New York. You got out of state foreign LinkedIn money.

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Fox News actually just did a whole big deep dive

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onto he's got connections with this network that's elevated him,

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the lieutenant governor candidate in Virginia and actually the mayor

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of Dearborn, Michigan. Those are like the three which is

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this unholy alliance of Islamist tide funding through care and

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then also the Democrats, Socialist Association, the Bernie Sanders linked groups.

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And this has been an intentional effort, I think, to

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grow people like this. You know, there's they talk about

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in this Fox News digital piece that you know eight

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years ago he was part of this group and then

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they've kind of groomed him and then they funded him.

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And we've done reporting here at the Government Accountability Institute.

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You see the no King's protests. You see the Antifa stuff,

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and we said, like, it's not really a protest story,

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it's a money story. And I do think that the

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mom Donnie like his support is organic in the sense

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that he's made videos and he's a good communicator, and

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it does get a lot of small dollar donors. However,

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he also is absolutely being propped up by larger forces

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from the left with the Democratic Socialists and these Islamist

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groups that think most people don't know about.

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Well, and of course they're big charges how much they

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hate Trump, you know, and that's the big thing. All

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all these politicians on the left. It's like I'm gonna go,

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I'm I'm your defense against Donald Trump. I mean, it's like,

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let's suspend our own intellect here and think about what

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the country was, you know, in four years of Joe

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Biden and what Trump was able to do in a

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matter of days and months.

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Well, think about this bill, and you know, you're you're

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a smart guy. You understand. The two places that I

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think you're seeing Donald Trump be invoked the most in

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what otherwise are local elections are in the mayor's race

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of New York City and in California, where they run

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in this Prop fifty and they're attempting to redistrict, which essentially,

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if you if you put it another way, you know,

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Republicans are like thirty five percent of California. They're about

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to take their congressional representation out of fifty two seats

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from nine to like three. You know, if you could

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if there was an ethnic group that was thirty something

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percent of the population and they had three out of

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fifty seats like that, you would like the Supreme Court

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would be in vote for Voting Rights Act violations and things.

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But when it's Republicans, it's okay. But the point is

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in California and New York City, they're making it about

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Donald Trump. And my question would be why, And I

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think the answer is because they have nothing else to

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run on. California is a failed state. As your well,

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it's incredibly expensive. They just have reported in LA Times

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Now the fires were maybe intentional. These firefighters were told

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to let these things run. LA is a disaster. California's

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two per censor. They got homeless up and down the plane,

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you got crime everywhere. New York City no different. So

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they don't have they can't run on their own policies

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and the ramifications of those. They have to run on

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the fear of Donald Trump, even though, as you noted,

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Donald Trump's governance has actually improved lives as opposed to

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what's happened in California and New York.

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Well, and look what happened in DC. Okay, I have

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a president who got involved and took interest in the

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safety of the nation's capital, and he turns it around

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what in a week. I mean to the degree that

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maryel Bowser, who doesn't love Donald Trump, it's not like

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they're out doing you know, brunch together every weekend. Yeah,

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I mean she she had to say hey, thank you.

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And you know that was hard, Like you're talking about

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somebody who in Congress, the Republicans literally named an act

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the Bowser Act because they were talking about you know,

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they're trying to make fun of her with some of

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the stuff in Washingt d C. Absolutely, But the end

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of the day, if you're improving the lives of your constituents,

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a good leader should recognize that. And Gavin Newsom at

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times even did he was friendly with Donald Trump when

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they offered assistance with the firefighting the firefighting and no,

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but you're seeing that people are not thinking about constituent services.

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They're thinking about their own political futures, which is why

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Gavin Newsom's doing this. And Mom, Donnie, I mean, even

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though he's thirty three, it's unclear. I think his connections

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to these larger groups suggest they see him as it's

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not somebody who's going to make the subway safer. They

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see him as somebody that can push to push their

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socialist agenda on a much larger platform.

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Right, He's a tool that's really the bottom line. And

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just like these other players that the left uses, and

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especially this radical arm, I mean, look what, look what

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how they're using elon Omar and and Rashida tilib same thing.

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And I and it amazes me. I got to tell

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you Eric that I don't know how these people can

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be elected into office swear to uphold the Constitution of

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the United States. I mean, well, what do they have

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their fingers crossed when they do this?

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Man, what do they have their hands on if it's

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not the Bible? And that's been something that's happened to

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think in some other places, it's it's bizarre. Well, and

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this gets like a larger culture issue of how to

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interpret the Constitution. You've got, as you noted, members of

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Congress who suggest that their job is to represent not

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United States citizens, but citizens of countries that their people

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come from. And that's I think, you know, that should

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be held accountable in a much more aggressive way. By

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that's a news story everywhere. But you know, I mean

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because of Donald Trump. If they're opposed to Donald Trump,

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then it's kind of like they get they get the pass.

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testimony from people who worked for Joe Biden. They had

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to admit under oath in Congress that they lied to

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the American people about what they saw and how often

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they saw it in terms of their interactions with Joe Biden.

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And that hasn't been reported anywhere, and that should otherwise

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be a national story. It's certainly a national scandal. But

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because that story is seen in opposition to Donald Trump,

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then that's going to be ignored. And so you're right,

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like the hatred of Donald Trump literally takes precedence over

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everything else, including what's in the best interest of this country.

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Well, Eric, do you think of arctic frost, right, for example?

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I mean, that is like that that's Watergate on steroids,

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it made two particular journalists a household name, and and

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the publication. And here it's like crickets, are you kidding me?

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What they did?

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And much more widespread. I think Watergate on steroids it's

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like Watergate on steroids with a travel package, and and

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like James Bond level technology. I mean no, truly, it's

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like in in depth intentional surveillance operation on sitting elected

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leaders of the United States government, authorized by people who

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should not have been able to do so autonomously. Absolutely,

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we're actually gonna do our next podcast episode on that,

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because I do think it's been you know, what's the

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bigger scandal, Bill the fact that that story happened, or

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the lack of coverage it's received.

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Yeah, exactly. Well, and go back to twenty sixteen, twenty fifteen,

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I mean, you know, Trump says, hey, they're surveilling Trump Tower.

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And because he used the wrong term, technically, you know,

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James Me can say, well, you know, he's he's wrong,

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We didn't do that. Well wait a minute, well, whatever

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you call it, some form of surveillance is what you

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did to a presidential and incoming presidential officeholder.

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Now you know the Steele dossier, the Crossfire Hurricane. That's

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actually stuff. Bill. And I'm not sure if you've ever

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spoken about it with our colleagues, Peter Schweitzer or yeah.

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But I've had Peter on many times and and he

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and I and one of the things I've always asked,

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because when he brings the receipts, they're so conclusive. I'm saying, Peter,

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why is it taking so long, you know, for the

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media to catch up on this. I mean, you know,

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this has been incubating based on his books and his

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reporting for over three years. And he just kind of chuckled.

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He says, well, that's just the way it rolls.

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You know.

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Yeah, he's too nice. We tell him that all the time.

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But the but it really in that instance, like the receipts,

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literally are we did this? You know, we did this book,

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Clinton Cash. I actually traveled to Haiti as part of

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the research for that, and you know, we documented all

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the flow of money between the Clinton Foundation and the

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people that got favors from the State Department. None more

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egregious than the uranium ie transaction scandal, which ultimately led

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to the transfer of twenty percent of US uranium assets

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to Vladimir Pier's control in Russia, while the Clinton Foundation

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raked in hundreds of millions of donations and Bill was

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personally paid to give speeches by the Kremlin. So we

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had all that right, and that comes out. It comes

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validates this. They said, no, we have a Russia problem

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because of that book, that reporting, they're polling that showed

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they had a problem. Because of that reporting is why

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they decided. You talk about gas lighting to create the fabrication,

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they say, okay, no, let's say Donald Trump's the Russian asset,

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not us. So that's why they created the Steel dass

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That's why they created that entire narrative and then laundered

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use intelligence apparatus to kind of try to legitimize it.

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00:24:00.039 --> 00:24:02.039
We now know Barack Obama was even involved in it.

471
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I well, he had to be. I mean there's no way.

472
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I mean you look at how this was orchestrated, and

473
00:24:10.319 --> 00:24:13.440
but yet he comes clean. I mean he's right now,

474
00:24:13.880 --> 00:24:15.640
nobody can lay a hand on him.

475
00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:18.680
Well, I think we talk about like underreported stories by

476
00:24:18.680 --> 00:24:21.400
an uncarious media. You know, we've made this point on

477
00:24:21.440 --> 00:24:24.920
the podcast before. But remember so we talk about Joe Biden,

478
00:24:24.920 --> 00:24:26.799
and Joe Biden's kind of checked out and you know,

479
00:24:26.839 --> 00:24:29.720
not doing much during the twenty twenty election or you know,

480
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like while he's president from twenty twenty twenty twenty four.

481
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Remember Barack Obama lived in Washington, d C. At that

482
00:24:35.640 --> 00:24:38.359
same time lived in Georgetown. And one of the great

483
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scandals I think of journalism recently is no reporters on

484
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a regular basis which just hang out outside his house

485
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to see who's going over, who's coming over for dinner

486
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or brunch. To use your example, what members of the

487
00:24:50.359 --> 00:24:53.279
Biden administration was he engaged with, Because if Joe Biden,

488
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despite Karine Jean Pierre's insistence that he was the best ever,

489
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if he wasn't given these orders, you know who was

490
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in charge. I don't think it's a stress to suggest

491
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that Barack Obama had some say in terms of his

492
00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:06.599
interactions with former Obama staffers who worked in the Biden

493
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White House and helped share stuff. So you had potentially

494
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an unelected person having sway over the over the presidency.

495
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I think it's another example of the scandal Barack Obama

496
00:25:14.799 --> 00:25:17.799
continues to skate without a consequence because of it.

497
00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:22.480
Well, I think it's it's lovely that Donald Trump has

498
00:25:23.680 --> 00:25:29.440
put the portrait of the president the autopen. But the

499
00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:31.799
only thing I think that's missing is there should be

500
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a shadow water mark behind that auto pen of Barack Obama.

501
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Well what do you think? Yeah, you know, it's it's

502
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interesting to kind of sort through it because Joe Biden

503
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and Barack Obama have a complicated relationship, and I do

504
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think that's why the Biden people had that intense personal

505
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kind of shell around him, because I don't think they

506
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trusted some of those Obama holdovers because of the nature

507
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of that relationship. And so that's why, you know, it's

508
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Valor Biden, it's it's Hunter Biden, it's his chief of

509
00:26:01.759 --> 00:26:04.119
staff and those guys. That was a pretty close knit circle.

510
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I still think of you know, despite what Jake Tapper

511
00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:09.200
would have us believe for twenty nine to ninety nine

512
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in his book, I don't believe it was this great

513
00:26:12.039 --> 00:26:14.759
con job by the Bidens to keep his mental decline

514
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from the American people. We all saw it, but I

515
00:26:17.079 --> 00:26:20.400
do think that you know, there was a fractured relationship there,

516
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and that's one of the reasons why Joe Biden was

517
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more isolated than from the rest of some of his

518
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staff than he would have been otherwise.

519
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Yeah, probably so. Eric Eggers, Research director for a Government

520
00:26:29.680 --> 00:26:32.440
Accountability Eric, thank you so much for coming on. Appreciate it.

521
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Bill.

522
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It's great to be with you and your audience. Thanks

523
00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:35.000
so much.

524
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Got to do this again, buddy, all right.

525
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Anytime, man, all right, you got it, all right, man,

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Nutrition for Patriots, Well, good morning, welcome, Good to have

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you with us.

601
00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:52.880
Bill Martinez here with doctor Wilfrid Riley, the College proth

602
00:30:53.240 --> 00:30:56.279
who is in the House to edumicate us because we

603
00:30:56.359 --> 00:31:00.319
need edumacation after all this government shutdown. Business will what

604
00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:02.720
do you say, Yeah.

605
00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:04.039
I mean, I think there's a lot going on with

606
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:05.359
the shutdown. First.

607
00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:08.160
I mean, one of my comments is that I think

608
00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:09.880
I said this, and I think most kind of upper

609
00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:12.400
middle class citizens would agree with this. I haven't seen

610
00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:16.200
a whole lot in my life change because the government

611
00:31:16.400 --> 00:31:18.920
is not functional, and I think a lot of people

612
00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:21.440
can kind of kind of take some knowledge.

613
00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:21.599
Away from that.

614
00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:24.279
I mean, I'm not on snap, I'm not going to

615
00:31:24.359 --> 00:31:27.079
a national park for a couple of months, so there's

616
00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:29.960
there's nothing really happening. But the I mean, the the

617
00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:32.720
fact that's going on still is just bad leadership.

618
00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:33.440
You know.

619
00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:36.680
By this point, what's called a clean car, a continuing

620
00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:41.960
appropriations resolution, has cleared the House, and my understanding is

621
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:46.039
the Senate Democrats strictly are blocking it. The House Republicans,

622
00:31:46.799 --> 00:31:51.759
even the House Democrats, the Senate Republicans essentially would agree

623
00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:54.519
just to fund the government for a period of time

624
00:31:54.680 --> 00:31:57.880
at the budget levels of the past year, and the

625
00:31:58.400 --> 00:32:01.880
Senate Democrats want to add I think it's two hundred

626
00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:04.440
and twenty billion dollars worth of additional programs, which would

627
00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:06.599
include welfare for illegals, a bunch of other stuff.

628
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:08.640
So that's the sticking point.

629
00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:11.279
So when people say, well, the GOP is defunding snaps

630
00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:16.440
so on, three fourths of the House of Representatives would

631
00:32:16.440 --> 00:32:18.880
would like to put this in the rearview mirror. The

632
00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:22.000
problem is there's one group of activist reps that's saying, no, well,

633
00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:23.799
we're not gonna We're not going to let that happen.

634
00:32:23.880 --> 00:32:25.200
And that's what's going on right now.

635
00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:30.160
Yeah, and they basically have hijacked the Senate, the Democratic

636
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:34.039
senators and frozen them to where they can't vote, you know,

637
00:32:34.279 --> 00:32:38.839
and Schumer, Leader Schumer, he's afraid because there's some political

638
00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:43.000
ramifications involved here. But yeah, I mean, overall, you're talking

639
00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:46.799
about over a trillion dollars that they wanted to add

640
00:32:46.839 --> 00:32:49.640
to the budget when they had already agreed, there was

641
00:32:49.759 --> 00:32:54.200
bipartisan agreement that they were going through the appropriations process

642
00:32:54.359 --> 00:33:00.279
like they normally would do. And the senators on both sides, hey,

643
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:01.759
we need a little bit more time, So we need

644
00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:05.359
a seven week ce R car so that we can

645
00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:09.880
finish our job and present to the present to the

646
00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:13.680
Senate and uh. And the Democrats looked at this as

647
00:33:13.720 --> 00:33:17.319
an opportunity, as as the whip for the Democratic House

648
00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:21.039
side said, Uh, it afforded them leverage. So they're using

649
00:33:21.599 --> 00:33:26.519
the American people, the people that rely on government. Uh,

650
00:33:26.599 --> 00:33:32.640
you know, government facilities and you know government food and

651
00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:35.359
moneies and that sort of thing, and they're held you know,

652
00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:36.640
they're putting them in pain.

653
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:37.440
Uh.

654
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:41.599
So, you know, for political reasons. And and I think

655
00:33:41.640 --> 00:33:43.000
more and more people are seeing this for.

656
00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:43.519
What it is.

657
00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:47.039
And even though we've got election that's going on, you know,

658
00:33:47.079 --> 00:33:49.640
we're recording it before the results of the elections, so

659
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:52.559
the results will be by the time they hear this,

660
00:33:52.759 --> 00:33:56.160
the results will be noted uh in New York and

661
00:33:56.240 --> 00:34:00.359
also New Jersey, in Virginia. But you know, so that's

662
00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:03.200
you know, they're trying to use this as a reperendum

663
00:34:03.200 --> 00:34:05.839
against Trump, you know, like it's Trump's fault.

664
00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:06.960
Yeah.

665
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:08.960
Well, I mean I think for then now Bill, for

666
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:11.199
you and me, this is elementary political science. But I

667
00:34:11.239 --> 00:34:12.920
think it's important for people to remember there are three

668
00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:15.559
branches of government. So it's the legislative branch. It's for

669
00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:19.800
Congress that funds the country. So the budget, the president

670
00:34:19.880 --> 00:34:22.880
proposes a budget, there's kind of there's a Presidential Budget Office,

671
00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:25.119
there's sort of a whole fun game around that. But

672
00:34:25.159 --> 00:34:27.920
the president doesn't actually set the national budget. That comes

673
00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:30.960
strictly out of the House of Representatives. So it's Congress

674
00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:33.039
that shut down the government. Trump didn't have anything to

675
00:34:33.079 --> 00:34:35.880
do with it. The Democrats and Republicans couldn't agree on

676
00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:39.760
a budget package, and so the Senate in particular came

677
00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:43.199
to a shutdown Trump. In fact, I mean right now,

678
00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:45.599
Trump is being sued by I think twenty five states

679
00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:49.000
who are arguing that he should use some kind of

680
00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:52.599
available federal lock box funds to fund some programs, and

681
00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:55.880
Snack in particular seems to really be in the spotlight here.

682
00:34:55.920 --> 00:34:59.519
That's welfare basically, it's food stamps, and people are using

683
00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:02.719
this to argue, well, are you starving kids? You know,

684
00:35:02.760 --> 00:35:04.760
our young mom's going to be able to make it.

685
00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:09.000
As I understand, between the President and Congress, they have

686
00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:12.920
been able to put together fifty or sixty percent coverage

687
00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:16.480
of SNAP benefits for this next month. Now, I'm not

688
00:35:16.639 --> 00:35:18.840
entirely sympathetic in this case. In the first place, I

689
00:35:18.840 --> 00:35:21.760
mean Snap for a family of four in most states

690
00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:24.280
is going to be about nine hundred dollars, which is

691
00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:26.599
more than a lot of people who aren't on welfare

692
00:35:26.679 --> 00:35:29.400
spend on food in the first place. So there's a

693
00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:33.079
lot of question about should we evaluate these packages and

694
00:35:33.119 --> 00:35:35.400
get rid of some of them. But Trump, I think

695
00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:37.559
has done a pretty good job from the executive branch.

696
00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:40.480
That's what the president is of responding to the shutdown.

697
00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:43.159
The shutdown is coming from the legislative and they've got

698
00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:44.039
to work that out.

699
00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:48.360
Right without a doubt. And again, my I guess, my

700
00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:54.239
optimism is that the American people at large, regardless of party,

701
00:35:55.440 --> 00:35:58.800
is seeing this clear in a clear minded way, and

702
00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:03.639
regardless of you know, whose fault it is, it's just

703
00:36:03.639 --> 00:36:07.039
not happening. And then you can decide, you know, next

704
00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:09.760
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705
00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:12.519
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706
00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:17.480
somebody who's willing to exercise this kind of ricksmanship and

707
00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:22.440
delay payments and services and you know delay you know

708
00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:26.039
flights and you know problems for air traffic control and

709
00:36:26.119 --> 00:36:26.960
everybody else.

710
00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:30.719
Yeah, I mean this, like I said, this is bad leadership.

711
00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:32.679
But again, this isn't this isn't really on Trump, This

712
00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:34.880
isn't really on you know, colonel hag Set, anyone in

713
00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:37.960
the executive branch. But for everyone in the House and Senate, yeah,

714
00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:40.880
this doesn't look good. I mean this includes stable people

715
00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:43.599
like some of the Republican Senator Fetterman on the dim side, like,

716
00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:45.920
you guys have to get this worked out. I mean

717
00:36:46.000 --> 00:36:48.639
something that everyone has heard if you've been the captain

718
00:36:48.639 --> 00:36:50.519
of an athletic team, or you've been working on a

719
00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:52.519
sales for or something like that, is, if you're the boss,

720
00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:55.880
what happens under you is your responsibility. Exactly what these

721
00:36:55.920 --> 00:36:58.079
guys say, Well, we didn't understand there were quite that

722
00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:00.840
many people on welfare. Well we we thought the Democrats

723
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:02.760
had come to the table two weeks. I mean, you

724
00:37:03.199 --> 00:37:04.519
got to work that out. I mean, you guys have

725
00:37:04.599 --> 00:37:08.159
to have eighteen hour meetings until you get this done.

726
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:11.559
And I don't really see that happening from what friends

727
00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:13.280
of mine who are on the staffers side have said.

728
00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:15.639
So we'll see.

729
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:17.280
I mean I think that this will be fixed by

730
00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:21.760
Christmas and probably by Thanksgiving for the obvious reasons. You know, Americans,

731
00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:23.840
especially on the right, aren't gonna riot. We signed off

732
00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:25.360
of that over the past couple of years. But if

733
00:37:25.400 --> 00:37:27.519
you by the time you get to you know, you're

734
00:37:27.519 --> 00:37:29.840
scraping up pocket change to buy the turkey, and you

735
00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:32.800
see that your husband's Sully's a sergeant, he hasn't been

736
00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:35.079
paid in three months. I mean, that's going to affect

737
00:37:35.119 --> 00:37:37.400
what you're doing at the ballot box. So I think

738
00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:39.599
they're going to try to avoid that very heavily before

739
00:37:39.599 --> 00:37:40.119
the holidays.

740
00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:43.519
Well, Tay, I was relieved to see that they're you know,

741
00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:46.800
the social media activists went nuts and we're trying to

742
00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:50.880
get people to go and storm grocery stores and do

743
00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:54.880
all kinds of damage because of you know, the At

744
00:37:54.920 --> 00:37:58.159
that point it was the potential delay in Snap payments,

745
00:37:58.519 --> 00:38:02.719
and thank god more sober mindes reigned and we didn't

746
00:38:02.760 --> 00:38:04.079
have a lot of craziness going on.

747
00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:08.000
Yeah, I think one of the things that gets into that, well,

748
00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:09.920
actually they're probably on Snap too, But I was going

749
00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:11.679
to say one of the things with Black Lives Matter

750
00:38:11.760 --> 00:38:13.760
is that a lot of the actual rioters weren't working

751
00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:15.639
class guys who happened to live in the hood or

752
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:18.440
firemen or something like that. They were white kids, sometimes

753
00:38:18.519 --> 00:38:21.119
black kids who came in from college campuses. So I

754
00:38:21.159 --> 00:38:22.800
don't really think a lot of those guys are going

755
00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:26.119
to try charging the local grocer who has his four

756
00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:29.199
sons standing at the door to steal beans. I mean,

757
00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:32.719
I thought when I saw those videos, people were saying

758
00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:34.679
like we're coming, We're going to take carts full of stuff,

759
00:38:34.719 --> 00:38:36.719
like they have cameras on the store, Like, are you

760
00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:40.480
really that's a little different from during a mass public disturbance,

761
00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:42.719
I'm going to throw a brick. You know, you're going

762
00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:45.840
to be very clearly identifiable as someone from your community

763
00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:48.760
who's robbing a grocery store where other people get their food.

764
00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:52.239
There hasn't been much report of that happening. I mean

765
00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:55.039
in urban Kentucky, there are some store chains that have

766
00:38:55.159 --> 00:38:58.719
taken precaution against that they've hired security guards for a

767
00:38:58.760 --> 00:39:01.960
week or two. We know snaps continuing at fifty percent.

768
00:39:02.159 --> 00:39:04.159
Now that you can see armed people near the few

769
00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:05.480
big box stores.

770
00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:08.199
I mean, I think that's a wrap that's not going

771
00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:09.840
to happen right exactly.

772
00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:11.840
But you're you know, I agree with you one hundred percent.

773
00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:15.880
Just like in any other business, it's the leader's responsibility,

774
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:18.119
and you know, and I got to tell you, I'm

775
00:39:18.199 --> 00:39:21.400
disappointed a bit. I have to admit with Senator Thun.

776
00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:25.400
I know, we know we talk about going nuclear. Everybody's

777
00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:29.000
reticent because it challenges tradition. But I just can't help

778
00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:31.400
but believe that if the shoe was on the other

779
00:39:31.480 --> 00:39:34.280
foot and it was the Democrats option to go nuclear,

780
00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:37.719
Harry Reid exercised the nuclear option. Of course, that's what

781
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:41.719
God has three conservative judges in the Supreme Court. But

782
00:39:41.880 --> 00:39:45.559
I think, you know, the American people would understand enough

783
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:49.599
is enough, like you said, eighteen twenty hour days in

784
00:39:49.719 --> 00:39:51.679
the room, locked up and get it done. And if

785
00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:54.400
you can't come to it, then hey, look at exercise

786
00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:56.199
the nuclear option. Let's get it done.

787
00:39:57.039 --> 00:39:57.519
Absolutely.

788
00:39:57.639 --> 00:39:59.199
Now, for those of you that don't know in the

789
00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:01.519
audience the nucle your option is getting rid of all

790
00:40:01.559 --> 00:40:04.599
these Senate procedural rules, most notably the filibuster, that make

791
00:40:04.599 --> 00:40:07.480
it impossible to do anything. So the filibuster, I mean,

792
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:09.880
in the Senate, the one of the oldest rules of

793
00:40:09.960 --> 00:40:12.480
practice is that any senator could stop business for usually

794
00:40:12.559 --> 00:40:14.320
up to a month, by just standing up and talking.

795
00:40:14.840 --> 00:40:16.840
So Ted Cruz is actually on our side of past

796
00:40:16.920 --> 00:40:19.039
master of the philibuster. Like he's read the Bible, which

797
00:40:19.119 --> 00:40:21.199
might at least have taught people something. But he's read

798
00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:23.800
Green Eggs and Ham. He read all the Doctor Seuss books.

799
00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:25.639
And I mean, you can imagine this like you're the

800
00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:28.320
equivalent of a business executive. You're there in your suit,

801
00:40:28.480 --> 00:40:30.119
you're planning on a seven hour day. Then you go

802
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:33.039
home at lunch and instead some guy says, some clown

803
00:40:33.159 --> 00:40:34.800
is your perception, stands up in front of the room

804
00:40:34.840 --> 00:40:37.920
and starts reading Batman comic books and there's a panel

805
00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:40.039
behind him showing Batman fighting.

806
00:40:39.920 --> 00:40:40.880
And team or whatever.

807
00:40:41.239 --> 00:40:42.960
And this goes on for four hours. Then you can

808
00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:45.159
use two guys. He's replaced by another guy who does

809
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:48.800
the flash right. I mean this dates back to the

810
00:40:48.840 --> 00:40:50.960
early days of the Republic, when people are expected to

811
00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:55.519
be trained speakers to hear these great orators. Washington wasn't

812
00:40:55.519 --> 00:40:57.239
in the Senate, but in Madison or someone like that,

813
00:40:57.360 --> 00:40:59.639
they would talk for three hours and they talk in cycles.

814
00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:03.320
Is a reason for it, but anyway, it takes sixty

815
00:41:03.440 --> 00:41:08.320
votes to override an ongoing filipbuster to get cloture. So

816
00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:12.199
this is why when people say, well, the Republicans usually

817
00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:14.880
have like a fifty three vote majority in the Senior House,

818
00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:17.920
because there's so many smaller states. Why can't anything ever

819
00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:20.119
get done? The reason for that is that you need

820
00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:24.079
sixty people to pass a major bill. So it's this

821
00:41:24.239 --> 00:41:26.599
procedural rule that most people don't know about. But it's

822
00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:29.079
not just that they're behind and closed doors, they're canoodling

823
00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:31.480
with each other. It's that you really can't do anything

824
00:41:31.559 --> 00:41:33.440
unless you want ten guys in a row standing up

825
00:41:33.480 --> 00:41:34.840
and talking for ten months.

826
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Exactly. I'll tay you. We got to go to a

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quick break. We've got more from doctor Wilfrid Riley after

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Bill Martinez here with doctor Wilfrid Riley. Chrisa. Doctor. Riley

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is the professor of political science at Kentucky State University,

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the author of Taboo. Ten Facts you Can't Talk About

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in Live's My Liberal Teacher dought me. You know, Will,

908
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as you were breaking down, you know what goes on

909
00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:07.320
with the filibuster. I mean, you know the reason the

910
00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:10.599
filibuster is there so that you know it's not a

911
00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:14.559
majority rule. It kind of neutralizes the majority rule concept.

912
00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:17.719
But what it does is it empowers the minority rule.

913
00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:20.960
So you've given up majority rule for minority rule. And

914
00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:22.840
how does that help government?

915
00:46:23.719 --> 00:46:26.119
Well, I mean it doesn't in practice. I mean the philibuster.

916
00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:28.239
You're not listening to James Madison anymore, you know, so

917
00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:30.760
I think the philibuster is mostly a negative. The problem

918
00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:33.719
with the filibuster, the problem with the nuclear option, which

919
00:46:33.760 --> 00:46:35.519
is getting rid of the philibuster and a bunch of

920
00:46:35.599 --> 00:46:38.119
other procedural rules, rule fourteen and this kind of thing,

921
00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:42.599
is that primarily the philibuster, though once you do that

922
00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:47.119
you both sides have access to the new state of affairs,

923
00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:49.559
and I think that's pretty important.

924
00:46:49.599 --> 00:46:51.760
So the Democrats were the party that got rid of.

925
00:46:51.719 --> 00:46:56.599
The filibuster for judicial nominees in particular right, and as

926
00:46:56.679 --> 00:46:59.440
a result of that, both parties are now able to

927
00:46:59.559 --> 00:47:03.800
slam through they're you know, best qualified but most partisan

928
00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:07.360
Amy Cony Barrett sort of judges. So I don't think

929
00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:11.079
the DIMS expected that with a relatively young Supreme Court

930
00:47:11.199 --> 00:47:14.400
and a relatively unpopular President, Trump would be able to

931
00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:17.559
frontload the court. But he played some games and people

932
00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:19.880
unfortunately passed away and he was So I mean, we've

933
00:47:19.960 --> 00:47:23.920
got a Kavanaugh, Gorsach, Cony Barrett on the court because

934
00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:27.000
the DIMS did this. And it's the same thing with

935
00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:30.920
any both parties going forward in the future. Like if

936
00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:33.880
the filibuster was gotten rid of, you would see big,

937
00:47:33.960 --> 00:47:36.760
beautiful bills from the GOP side passing all the time.

938
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:40.400
But you would also then see the equivalent when the

939
00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:43.519
Democrats take power. So I mean you'd see expansions of

940
00:47:43.599 --> 00:47:46.159
funding to Obamacare by ten percent. I mean, you'd see

941
00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:50.039
what the left wants, the climate change bill passing. And

942
00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:53.599
the problem with this is like once you give people

943
00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:56.840
something in a democracy, whether the Conservatives pass an improved

944
00:47:56.960 --> 00:47:59.880
road building package into rural areas. People made fun of

945
00:47:59.960 --> 00:48:02.320
the bridge to nowhere in Alaska, So I mean, in reality,

946
00:48:02.360 --> 00:48:05.119
what you were doing was linking these small heartland and

947
00:48:05.199 --> 00:48:07.679
coastal towns. People out there loved it. But once you

948
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do that, it's not going back. You're gonna make those roads.

949
00:48:11.000 --> 00:48:12.559
And it's the same thing on the left, like if

950
00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:14.679
you give people ten percent more money for health care

951
00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:16.559
even though they probably don't need it, Even though the

952
00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:18.960
average American could stop eating I could myself stop eating

953
00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:21.719
twinkies and get that same effect. People aren't going to

954
00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:23.559
turn that down. They're not going to take the cart

955
00:48:23.559 --> 00:48:25.840
either while it cut it up. So getting rid of

956
00:48:25.880 --> 00:48:29.199
the filibuster, really it takes you out of that phase

957
00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:33.840
of political sparring where things move very incrementally as someone

958
00:48:33.960 --> 00:48:36.960
like Fetterman writes the bills, and it puts you in

959
00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:38.960
a zone where the Republicans are going to do big

960
00:48:39.039 --> 00:48:41.119
thing X and then the Democrats are going to do

961
00:48:41.199 --> 00:48:43.760
big thing Y and people would have to get really

962
00:48:43.960 --> 00:48:46.320
ready to that adjustment, that change.

963
00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:47.440
I don't know if that would be good.

964
00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:52.599
Well, you know, there's got to be some answer to this,

965
00:48:53.320 --> 00:48:56.119
because you know, as you said, and I am, I asked,

966
00:48:56.159 --> 00:49:00.159
you know, is it helping or hurting? And and I

967
00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:03.960
don't in all the procedures and consideration, when you have,

968
00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:10.039
you know, the minority controlling everything, I think there's something

969
00:49:10.079 --> 00:49:12.360
out of whack here. There's got to be something that

970
00:49:13.159 --> 00:49:15.440
and I don't know what it is. All I know

971
00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:19.039
is that this isn't working. And you know, and I

972
00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:21.960
guess you know, we'll find out for sure at the

973
00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:25.480
ballot box ultimately. But meanwhile, you've got people that are

974
00:49:25.519 --> 00:49:30.039
being deprived of services that the government has conditioned them

975
00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:33.679
to receive, right like you said, Yeah, So I.

976
00:49:33.719 --> 00:49:34.880
Think there are two levels here.

977
00:49:35.079 --> 00:49:37.880
One you're making a very good point, which is that

978
00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:41.199
there's some tension between majority rule and minority rights and

979
00:49:41.239 --> 00:49:43.760
every democratic society and what you don't want to get

980
00:49:43.800 --> 00:49:48.679
into is minority rule. So pure majority rule actually is

981
00:49:48.719 --> 00:49:51.239
pretty frightening. I remember, I'm a big fan of the

982
00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:54.119
manly poets like Kipling and so on that write these

983
00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:57.159
poems like Ramini about conquering places and falling in love

984
00:49:57.239 --> 00:49:59.760
and so on. But there read some poet recently was

985
00:49:59.800 --> 00:50:02.280
talking about how the Athenians killed all their generals after

986
00:50:02.320 --> 00:50:04.519
they lost a battle to the Spartans or the Persians

987
00:50:04.599 --> 00:50:07.519
or something. They the army came home on votes. They'd lost,

988
00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:10.400
but only narrowly. The city mob grabbed the generals who

989
00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:12.519
probably would have run the next battle, voted and hung them.

990
00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:15.920
And that's that's the worry with majority rule, right, I mean,

991
00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:18.440
you get fifty one percent of the votes, you get

992
00:50:18.480 --> 00:50:21.119
one hundred percent of the power. You decide you don't

993
00:50:21.159 --> 00:50:22.559
like the guy who's running the army, you.

994
00:50:22.599 --> 00:50:25.079
Can cashier him. Yeah, you know, and we see this

995
00:50:25.199 --> 00:50:26.119
when when.

996
00:50:26.000 --> 00:50:28.519
Parties change, right, I mean, you know, he didn't think

997
00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:30.639
he got too far into Iran contract. But like Oliver

998
00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:33.119
North or someone who's generally viewed as a hero party,

999
00:50:33.360 --> 00:50:35.840
there's a transition in the government and now you're on trial.

1000
00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:37.280
We see Trump's guys.

1001
00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:42.880
So with majority rule, there's that inherent fear of if

1002
00:50:42.920 --> 00:50:44.519
they get fifty three percent.

1003
00:50:44.320 --> 00:50:47.559
Of the vote, will they kill me? So we generally we.

1004
00:50:47.679 --> 00:50:51.639
Institute these protections, no attacks based on race, political association,

1005
00:50:51.760 --> 00:50:54.760
blah blah blah. The problem is that you can make

1006
00:50:54.840 --> 00:50:57.920
those protections so stringent that no one can do anything.

1007
00:50:58.840 --> 00:51:02.719
Our amendment process and even our filibuster process are intentionally

1008
00:51:02.840 --> 00:51:05.760
set right at that bar or you need two thirds

1009
00:51:05.800 --> 00:51:07.800
of the states or two thirds of the body to

1010
00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:10.440
do anything, and you have two or three parties.

1011
00:51:10.920 --> 00:51:13.079
So I mean, in practice, if you're.

1012
00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:17.840
A small minority, you can stop major positive things from

1013
00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:18.320
being done.

1014
00:51:18.360 --> 00:51:19.719
And the question is what to do about that.

1015
00:51:20.360 --> 00:51:23.519
The most effective solution sometimes just to bribe the small minority,

1016
00:51:23.559 --> 00:51:25.840
but almost no one feels that that is ethical. So

1017
00:51:25.960 --> 00:51:29.840
it's an ongoing problem in political science, the spoils division problem,

1018
00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:30.079
so on.

1019
00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:30.880
There's not really a.

1020
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:35.519
Solution, right well, and I think exactly what you give

1021
00:51:35.639 --> 00:51:39.639
up in that process? I mean, something has to be exchanged, right,

1022
00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:41.960
and is it worth it at the end of the day.

1023
00:51:42.039 --> 00:51:43.559
I guess that's your point, and I agree with you.

1024
00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:47.480
I think that's something we don't know. We do know

1025
00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:49.440
a little bit about what happened, as you mentioned with

1026
00:51:49.519 --> 00:51:53.039
the Harry Reid nuclear option, what he exercised came back

1027
00:51:53.119 --> 00:51:55.880
and bit the Democrats on the back end, and I

1028
00:51:55.920 --> 00:51:59.800
guess the Republicans are afraid that, okay, this could happen

1029
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:04.280
of them as well. But meanwhile, here we go as

1030
00:52:04.320 --> 00:52:09.079
this continues to play out. Uh, speaking of some I

1031
00:52:09.159 --> 00:52:13.119
guess law fair or maybe retribution and that sort of thing.

1032
00:52:14.039 --> 00:52:16.559
We've got a situation with Boseburg. He's back in the

1033
00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:17.400
headlines again.

1034
00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:18.039
Uh.

1035
00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:22.039
You know, James Boseburg, who seems to be the judge

1036
00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:24.880
djoure or the act of his judge djure. And he's

1037
00:52:25.280 --> 00:52:28.079
the tip of the iceberg of this Arctic frost deal.

1038
00:52:28.559 --> 00:52:28.679
Uh.

1039
00:52:29.039 --> 00:52:30.360
He and Jack Smith.

1040
00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:31.039
Uh.

1041
00:52:31.360 --> 00:52:36.480
And and there's impeachments. Now, there's websites out to impeach Boseburg. Uh,

1042
00:52:36.920 --> 00:52:39.639
you know, because he seems to get you know, mired

1043
00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:42.920
and very partisan and in the middle of these things

1044
00:52:42.960 --> 00:52:46.760
that are very I think they're anti democratic, you know,

1045
00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:47.480
on its face.

1046
00:52:49.079 --> 00:52:51.280
Yeah, I'm not to be honest all that familiar with

1047
00:52:51.480 --> 00:52:55.400
this exact case. I will say that the activist judge

1048
00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:58.360
problem is a real problem in the USA. I mean,

1049
00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:01.079
there's a Supreme Court decision and kind of awkward on

1050
00:53:01.119 --> 00:53:03.119
this question. I forget the decision name as well, but

1051
00:53:03.559 --> 00:53:06.440
there's a decision that says that judges all the way

1052
00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:08.440
down to the district court level, as long as they're

1053
00:53:08.440 --> 00:53:11.639
in the federal system, can comment on and can restrict

1054
00:53:11.719 --> 00:53:14.519
the activities of I think the phrase is senior elected officials,

1055
00:53:14.960 --> 00:53:18.840
which creates a really absurd situation, because a district court

1056
00:53:18.960 --> 00:53:20.960
judge is someone you or I would go play golf with.

1057
00:53:21.679 --> 00:53:25.400
I mean, we got the Frankfurt County Courthouse, regional Kentucky

1058
00:53:25.440 --> 00:53:27.679
court House downtown, it's like a mile from me, at

1059
00:53:27.760 --> 00:53:29.960
least twenty judges there, and they're black robes. So I

1060
00:53:30.039 --> 00:53:31.719
mean you're what you're saying is that a guy like

1061
00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:34.880
that can get a case if it's brought in Kentucky

1062
00:53:35.519 --> 00:53:39.559
and can see that President Trump is the defendant. And

1063
00:53:39.639 --> 00:53:42.000
even here we've got you know, eight democratic judges. Whatever

1064
00:53:42.039 --> 00:53:44.559
it is, they can then sanction the president. They can

1065
00:53:44.599 --> 00:53:47.000
put an injunction in place against whatever the president's trying

1066
00:53:47.039 --> 00:53:49.360
to do. This has been a big problem for Trump.

1067
00:53:49.519 --> 00:53:52.079
It was even a problem for Biden or these judges.

1068
00:53:52.119 --> 00:53:54.039
You don't want to say, like these nothing judges, I mean,

1069
00:53:54.039 --> 00:53:57.280
they're all human beings, but like these just guys you know,

1070
00:53:57.440 --> 00:54:01.599
from the local country club can prevent a major national

1071
00:54:01.679 --> 00:54:02.760
plan from taking place.

1072
00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:04.320
And what has to happen in that.

1073
00:54:04.440 --> 00:54:07.239
Case is that all the cases that have been brought

1074
00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:10.960
nationwide with these dinky little courthouses have to be consolidated.

1075
00:54:11.360 --> 00:54:13.440
Then that that has to be brought in a Circuit Court,

1076
00:54:13.559 --> 00:54:15.719
which is also probably going to vote against the guys

1077
00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:18.840
in DC just for regional reasons supporting their judges. Then

1078
00:54:18.880 --> 00:54:21.079
you have to bring that up to the Supreme Court,

1079
00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:23.840
and eventually the president will probably get to do what

1080
00:54:23.920 --> 00:54:27.480
he wants to do. But people don't understand the layers

1081
00:54:27.519 --> 00:54:29.519
of bureaucratic nonsense. I'm not going to go on a

1082
00:54:29.599 --> 00:54:32.360
side rant here, but that stop anything from happening. So

1083
00:54:32.440 --> 00:54:34.480
we just talked about the filibuster. Well, they got a

1084
00:54:34.920 --> 00:54:36.599
fifty plus vote majority, why don't they do anything?

1085
00:54:36.599 --> 00:54:37.800
Well, because you need sixty votes.

1086
00:54:38.159 --> 00:54:40.159
It's the same thing here like when you do something

1087
00:54:40.199 --> 00:54:43.719
when the president acts by executive order, anyone can file

1088
00:54:43.800 --> 00:54:46.960
a motion in their local district court saying that the

1089
00:54:47.000 --> 00:54:49.480
president shouldn't be allowed to do that, and then the

1090
00:54:49.639 --> 00:54:51.159
president is going to have to send one of his

1091
00:54:51.199 --> 00:54:53.840
top twenty legal guys probably to respond to that. So

1092
00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:58.320
it's just it's an incredibly greasely system. It's been made

1093
00:54:58.480 --> 00:54:59.880
virtually impossible to move with.

1094
00:55:00.880 --> 00:55:03.960
And then well, and the contact there, well, Trump, no

1095
00:55:04.079 --> 00:55:06.880
doubt is the lightning rod anything that his name is

1096
00:55:06.920 --> 00:55:12.960
attached to. I mean, he clearly is dividing the electorate

1097
00:55:13.199 --> 00:55:16.639
and everything else that goes along with it. Judges included

1098
00:55:16.960 --> 00:55:19.920
this whole situation with Arctic frost was amazing to me

1099
00:55:20.119 --> 00:55:23.039
because here it's like, what did we learn, you know

1100
00:55:23.119 --> 00:55:27.920
from Watergate? You know, because Arctic Frost with Jack Smith

1101
00:55:28.119 --> 00:55:33.760
and this Judge Boseburg, I mean, they have amplified and

1102
00:55:33.960 --> 00:55:41.360
expanded the whole surveillance state of our government well beyond

1103
00:55:41.599 --> 00:55:46.119
anything that Nixon and Watergate could ever imagine or whatever

1104
00:55:46.199 --> 00:55:49.440
it was. I mean, this is like Watergate on super steroids.

1105
00:55:51.719 --> 00:55:54.159
Yeah, I mean, so a couple of things here.

1106
00:55:54.159 --> 00:55:55.559
First of all, I'm probably not going to make myself

1107
00:55:55.599 --> 00:55:57.199
too popular with the audience with this, but I think

1108
00:55:57.280 --> 00:56:00.639
Watergate was somewhat overhyped as a scandal. I mean, the

1109
00:56:00.840 --> 00:56:05.400
entire Watergate scandal was that the someone on the president's team, Nixon,

1110
00:56:05.480 --> 00:56:08.239
seems to have become dimly aware of it. Later Yes,

1111
00:56:08.440 --> 00:56:12.880
hired a burglar to break into the DNC offices, which

1112
00:56:12.880 --> 00:56:14.840
were at the time located in the Watergate hotel.

1113
00:56:14.920 --> 00:56:16.400
This was a strategic field office.

1114
00:56:16.760 --> 00:56:19.239
So some guy literally breaks in, puts gum in the door,

1115
00:56:19.239 --> 00:56:22.039
and looks through the folders for a bit and then

1116
00:56:22.880 --> 00:56:25.599
gets caught by a security guard. Basically, and my understanding

1117
00:56:25.719 --> 00:56:27.679
is that in the dirty tricks climate of the time,

1118
00:56:27.800 --> 00:56:32.119
this was not very atypical. What Watergate did was since

1119
00:56:32.239 --> 00:56:34.840
the whole idea of Richard Nixon was he tricky Dick Nixon.

1120
00:56:35.199 --> 00:56:37.559
He's a little sweaty, he's a little chubby, he wears

1121
00:56:37.559 --> 00:56:40.239
a two button suit. We're going to contrast him with Kennedy.

1122
00:56:40.559 --> 00:56:42.559
It was a chance to bring him forward in that

1123
00:56:42.639 --> 00:56:45.920
post McCarthy era and say, look, these rightists are crooks.

1124
00:56:46.280 --> 00:56:49.440
They want to be kings. Can you believe the president

1125
00:56:49.519 --> 00:56:51.360
did this? And the reality is that, I mean.

1126
00:56:51.280 --> 00:56:51.679
Like John F.

1127
00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:54.239
Kennedy had rotating mistresses at the White House. I have

1128
00:56:54.239 --> 00:56:55.639
a great deal respect for Kennedy as well, by the

1129
00:56:55.639 --> 00:56:58.320
way kids handling the Russians, But I mean, like you know,

1130
00:56:58.440 --> 00:57:00.840
it was one of the great political tricksters of our

1131
00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:03.519
time because father probably stole an election for him in

1132
00:57:03.639 --> 00:57:06.519
Chicago and a big Joe Kennedy that's well known in

1133
00:57:06.599 --> 00:57:09.079
Chicago politics and did people voted to the tune of

1134
00:57:09.079 --> 00:57:13.800
about ninety thousand. So for this to hit the Republican

1135
00:57:13.880 --> 00:57:16.519
who was doing a set of things at that particular

1136
00:57:16.639 --> 00:57:20.159
time is a bit silly. Have we crossed the Watergate

1137
00:57:20.199 --> 00:57:22.920
line in terms of political scandals, I.

1138
00:57:22.920 --> 00:57:25.320
Would say so yeah. I mean when you look at Arctic.

1139
00:57:25.199 --> 00:57:28.840
Frost, like the allegations behind a lot of the recent

1140
00:57:28.880 --> 00:57:32.679
stuff involving Trump are basically that the deep state of

1141
00:57:32.760 --> 00:57:35.800
the country has been pursuing Trump since he started running

1142
00:57:35.840 --> 00:57:38.920
for office, and then most of the scandals against Trump

1143
00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:43.519
were not only inadequate to prosecute, but we're largely made

1144
00:57:43.599 --> 00:57:45.880
up using these kind of byzantine techniques.

1145
00:57:46.440 --> 00:57:46.639
I e.

1146
00:57:46.840 --> 00:57:49.199
Someone would like get a report Trump was working with

1147
00:57:49.280 --> 00:57:52.320
the Russians. This would be used to wire tap Trump

1148
00:57:52.480 --> 00:57:55.960
to gain evidence of some picka une statements people had

1149
00:57:56.000 --> 00:57:59.719
a problem with. This became a collection of intelligence material,

1150
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:01.960
a bit out of Live but the Steele DOTSI all

1151
00:58:02.000 --> 00:58:06.400
these other documents. So the entire Russigate scandal, in my opinion,

1152
00:58:06.480 --> 00:58:08.480
and I'm not an expert on the case, but was

1153
00:58:08.599 --> 00:58:09.760
essentially manufactured.

1154
00:58:09.840 --> 00:58:12.760
There were of course it was Yeah, I mean we

1155
00:58:12.800 --> 00:58:13.800
all know that on the right now.

1156
00:58:13.840 --> 00:58:17.079
But that's that to me, would be a bigger scandal

1157
00:58:17.199 --> 00:58:19.719
than what happened during Water Day, like the FBI or

1158
00:58:19.840 --> 00:58:24.639
CIA being involved in this kind of you know, propaganda

1159
00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:27.679
production is a major issue in a democratic country.

1160
00:58:28.119 --> 00:58:30.880
Well, there's been so many things that have been overlooked,

1161
00:58:31.239 --> 00:58:34.800
Like you said, whether we're talking Arctic frost, whether we're

1162
00:58:34.840 --> 00:58:42.159
talking you know, how we left Afghanistan. I mean, it's

1163
00:58:42.239 --> 00:58:46.039
just been one fiasco after another of the usage of

1164
00:58:46.119 --> 00:58:49.880
the auto pen, you know. And we can even get

1165
00:58:49.920 --> 00:58:54.159
down and really get crazy and light up people's minds

1166
00:58:54.199 --> 00:58:57.920
and talking about the twenty twenty election, which a majority

1167
00:58:57.960 --> 00:59:01.679
of Americans still are scratching their head over. But anyway,

1168
00:59:01.679 --> 00:59:03.880
we got to leave it there to be continued.

1169
00:59:04.280 --> 00:59:04.400
Uh.

1170
00:59:04.679 --> 00:59:07.679
Doctor Wilfrid Riley, the professor of political science at Kentucky

1171
00:59:07.719 --> 00:59:11.199
State University and author, celebrated that he is thank you

1172
00:59:11.280 --> 00:59:12.800
will for being with his appreciate it, sir.

1173
00:59:12.760 --> 00:59:15.440
Take care Bill as always, thanks for having me on.

1174
00:59:15.920 --> 00:59:16.360
You got it.

1175
00:59:17.719 --> 00:59:20.639
This vacation offer is so good I'm going to repeat it.

1176
00:59:20.880 --> 00:59:23.639
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1177
00:59:23.719 --> 00:59:26.440
the eighties, come to Port of iort in Mexico for

1178
00:59:26.559 --> 00:59:30.159
six days, all meals included, for only two ninety nine.

1179
00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:34.639
Again, come to Port of Iarta, Mexico, all meals, all

1180
00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:36.320
drinks to ninety nine.

1181
00:59:36.559 --> 00:59:39.199
We'll even give you a free cruiser land package if

1182
00:59:39.239 --> 00:59:41.599
you're one of the first fifty people to call right

1183
00:59:41.719 --> 00:59:44.719
now again come to Port of Iart in Mexico for

1184
00:59:44.840 --> 00:59:47.480
only two ninety nine. Be one of the first fifty

1185
00:59:47.559 --> 00:59:51.880
people to book right now in our luxurious all inclusive resort.

1186
00:59:52.159 --> 00:59:55.280
If you're in your forties, fifties, sixties, even up to

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Eight hundred nine to five nine seven oh two oh,

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eight hundred ninety five nine seven oh two oh eight

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hundred ninety five nine seven oh two oh. That's eight

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hundred nine five nine seventy twenty.

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Getting America back on track, Bill Martinez Live.

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Welcome morning America. Bill Martinez here six minutes after the

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top of the r Right now, we've got Scott Powell.

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Scott is an author, he's alo. He's also a senior

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Fellow at the Discovery Institute. In his timeless book We

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Keep Talking About, Rediscovering America has been a number one

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Amazon New release in the history genre for eight weeks. Congratulations, Scott,

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Thank you.

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Bill.

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That's not a it's not a recent number, but the

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value of the book is that it is a timeless

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books is relevant today or even more relevant today than

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when I wrote it several years ago. Yeah, it really

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speaks to the times in which we live at.

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Well little you know, sometimes when you you know, you're

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called on to write a book like that, you know,

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it's often said it's a snapshot. But it's amazing how

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that snapshot can carry through in time. And certainly the

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way America has been going, you know, we needed to

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have something that would admonish us to rediscover America, to

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hit the pause button and think, you know, maybe look

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in the rearview mirror and look at why America is

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so exceptional. I know that's kind of a bad word

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for these progressives who you know, it's kind of ironic.

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These progressives who claim to be moving so much forward

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are actually becoming more regressive because because it's almost like

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that they're not even sure where they're progressing to. They

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just have this mandra where we're progressing, but to where

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you know they're.

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They're actually regressing. But let me tell your audience right

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now why America is an exceptional nation. It's very simple.

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Prior to the declaration of Independence, in the establishment of

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the Constitution.

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There was no.

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Country in human history wherein the government was formed to

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protect the unalienable God given rights of the people. In

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other words, the people. The people's sovereignty, the people's rule,

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rule over their own lives, and rule over their country

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was paramount, and that the role of government was to

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protect that. Prior to America being born, the government set

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all the rules, The government created all the rights of

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the people. There were no unalienable rights talked about before.

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There are no God given rights in any country, only

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in America. And this is why we are in exceptional nation.

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Right.

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That was totalititarianism, wasn't it. I mean really?

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I mean well, most most governments ended up being you know,

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a quasi kind of total control systems because well, yeah,

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as the nature of power, it corrupts people and they

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want to control their.

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Subjects right well, And the very thing, I mean, this

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is what cracks you up a little bit, is these

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young people that don't know better are claiming that America is,

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and Donald Trump specifically these days, is totalitarian. But when

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you look at what they want, it is totalitarianism. And

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what Trump is doing, he's trying to get us back

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in line with the Constitution, as you said, and that

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is that government officials should preserve our inalienable rights, not

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infringe upon them. But the fact of the matter is

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the nature of man is such it can't help itself.

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Right.

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Unfortunately, we're battling with evil. That's the subject of my

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latest column that it's really the highest priority for us

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to really continue to make inroads on evil and defeating evil,

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because as we defeat evil, we create more room for

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God to come back into our our spiritual latinosphere, in

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our culture.

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Yeah, and people need to understand evil resides in all

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of us in the sense that you know, in this

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fallen world, we have evil in us and it will

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be manifest if it's unrestrained. It's only because of our

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relationship with God and understanding that we have this battle

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between good and evil occurring, that we can even have

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a chance at being victorious. Of course, the ultimate weapon

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we have, of course is faith in Jesus Christ, so

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he gives us that power. But still, as long as

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we're here on earth, we are going to be dealing

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with evil. But evil, we need to understand ourselves, you know,

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before we take the you know, the spec out of

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our brother's eye. We better maybe check the two by

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four that's in our own right.

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Yes, absolutely, absolutely, And you know, the decline of America

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really accelerated in the mid twentieth century when we took

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God out of our culture. We first took it out

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of our schools in nineteen sixty two. Of course, there

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were seeds earlier than that of progressivism, but really in

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the mid twentieth century we took incremental steps, and the

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Supreme Court had many rulings that really just took God

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out of the public square. So when you do that,

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you are you're departing from the very source of protection.

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You know, we need protection against evil, and that protection

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comes from God, and it comes from God given rights

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and the power of the and the government to protect

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those rights. So one of the responsibilities of government is

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to protect the right of the people's First Amendment, freedom

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of worship, freedom of speech, freedom of assembly. We we

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you know, we we had those robbed from us in

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the COVID pandemic, right, and we really haven't fully recovered.

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So we've got ways to go, but we're certainly making progress.

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This is probably the first president in my memory that

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is openly affirming the importance of the role of Christianity specifically,

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but religion in general, right, I mean, this is this

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takes us back to the founding of our country where

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George Washington and John Adams said specifically that our constitutional

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republic was suited only for a religious and moral people

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exactly so, and so it is when we take religion

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and morality out of our culture, we have this chaos.

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And that's what we're living through right now. We're you know,

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we're cleaning this up now, and we are making significant inroads.

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I must say, well, we are in one hand, But

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on the other hand, look what's happening in terms of

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Christian persecution Scott. You know, traditionally we've always thought Christian

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persecution happened over there in some third world country. It's

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being manifest throughout the world, and it's becoming more and

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more evident here in the United States. We've got people

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shooting up, you know, people in church, young kids in church.

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You know, specific religious institutions being attacked, schools, churches in

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that so there is an attack on people of faith.

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The assassination of Charlie Kirk. I mean, what was Charlie Kirk,

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you know, guilty of He was guilty of espousing not

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only our constitutional rights, but also our faith rights. You know,

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religious are you know, our religious ideals and and people

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have seen that. I think polling shows that maybe a

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third of America understood what Charlie Kirk was saying is

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something that was hate based. And that just goes to

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show you how little they understood what Charlie Kirk and

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what we as people of faith believe in and what

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we espouse. You know, we're not hatemongers.

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You know.

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The difference between us and them is that we're forgiven.

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We realized that we're messed up and we needed help,

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only help we could get is from a savior and

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from God above, not from the government, not from anybody

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else on this plane. We had to go to God.

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And that's what that's the difference between us and people

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who have not realized their fallen nature.

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Yes, well, said Bill.

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Well said, but you know, when you think about history,

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we know that the Christian Church grew more rapidly under persecution. Yes,

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when people could see that the apostles were willing to

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give their life for the truth, what happened, they said, Wow,

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that's the best testimony that it is true. If people

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are willing to die for it, I guess I should

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take a look at it. And so it was that

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the Christian Church flourished in the early days under persecution.

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Charlie Kirk as a martyr. You know that's a it's

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a very similar thing that's happening.

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Exactly, Scott. We got to go to a quick break.

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Let's pick it up on the other side. More from

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Scott Powell after this stay with us.

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We're back with you, Thanks for hanging in there. I'm

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01:14:12.399 --> 01:14:15.600
Bill Martinez. He's Scott Powell and Scott. Before the break,

1437
01:14:15.720 --> 01:14:20.359
we were talking about, you know, the persecution in the

1438
01:14:20.479 --> 01:14:24.279
church that occurred early on with Jesus' diples, even before

1439
01:14:24.319 --> 01:14:26.359
then you can go back, but particularly we're talking about

1440
01:14:26.960 --> 01:14:31.319
what happened after the crucifixion, you could say, the murder

1441
01:14:31.399 --> 01:14:36.720
of Jesus Christ and his apostles, of which eleven of

1442
01:14:36.800 --> 01:14:40.119
the twelve actually were subsequently martyred, oh yes, by the way,

1443
01:14:40.840 --> 01:14:45.159
and what that did in terms of convicting people. I mean,

1444
01:14:45.319 --> 01:14:47.560
I mean it really says something. If you're willing to

1445
01:14:47.840 --> 01:14:53.199
die for a cause, I mean, this really adds some

1446
01:14:53.840 --> 01:14:55.640
veritas to your testimony, doesn't it.

1447
01:14:55.960 --> 01:14:56.560
Yes, it does.

1448
01:14:57.000 --> 01:14:59.560
And you know, there's another interesting story about the early Church.

1449
01:15:00.239 --> 01:15:03.520
A lot of people have recognized that there were more

1450
01:15:03.640 --> 01:15:06.239
women in the church in the early Church than there

1451
01:15:06.279 --> 01:15:06.640
were men.

1452
01:15:07.279 --> 01:15:07.760
Why is that?

1453
01:15:08.000 --> 01:15:13.399
Well, what what happened? Uh in many Mediterranean cultures?

1454
01:15:14.119 --> 01:15:14.239
Uh?

1455
01:15:15.439 --> 01:15:15.920
Boys?

1456
01:15:16.319 --> 01:15:20.640
You know, a baby that was a boy was uh,

1457
01:15:21.880 --> 01:15:25.640
was had more value, was celebrated more than girls. And

1458
01:15:25.720 --> 01:15:29.479
in fact, girls were discarded. They were uh, they were

1459
01:15:29.520 --> 01:15:32.760
put out in the elements, as they called it, abandoned

1460
01:15:32.840 --> 01:15:36.119
in the elements with the sun and the and and

1461
01:15:36.800 --> 01:15:39.880
the heat, and they and they would obviously they would die.

1462
01:15:40.920 --> 01:15:45.119
And so it was it was Christian, particularly the Christian Uh.

1463
01:15:45.439 --> 01:15:49.760
Christian women who knew where they took these babies, and

1464
01:15:49.880 --> 01:15:54.520
they rescued them, and they brought them into the into

1465
01:15:54.560 --> 01:15:58.680
their Christian friends congregation and they were adopted. And so

1466
01:15:58.880 --> 01:16:02.760
these girls, these little baby girls were raised in Christian families,

1467
01:16:03.119 --> 01:16:05.560
and of course they became Christians as they learned that

1468
01:16:05.640 --> 01:16:09.359
they were saved by Christians right exactly, and so so

1469
01:16:09.479 --> 01:16:11.800
the early church had far more women in it than

1470
01:16:11.880 --> 01:16:13.920
men because of that very fact. A lot of people

1471
01:16:13.960 --> 01:16:18.159
don't realize that. So persecution and suffering is just part

1472
01:16:18.319 --> 01:16:23.479
of the course of Christianity. And and you point out

1473
01:16:23.520 --> 01:16:27.119
that we're seeing more persecution today, well, uh, and it

1474
01:16:27.239 --> 01:16:29.640
was manifested in the in the martyr to maturely Kirk.

1475
01:16:29.720 --> 01:16:33.760
But look, the church is growing again, yes, right, and

1476
01:16:33.840 --> 01:16:35.760
it isn't. It isn't the church as much as it

1477
01:16:35.880 --> 01:16:39.720
is the understanding of that the Bible is the source

1478
01:16:39.800 --> 01:16:43.640
of truth and that we need a savior in our

1479
01:16:43.760 --> 01:16:48.640
personal lives, in or in order to fulfill our destiny,

1480
01:16:49.000 --> 01:16:52.039
in order to be all that we can be. Because

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01:16:52.079 --> 01:16:54.840
God created us with very unique qualities.

1482
01:16:54.880 --> 01:16:55.920
No two people are alike.

1483
01:16:56.000 --> 01:17:00.920
They have different talents, they have different levels of uh skilled,

1484
01:17:01.000 --> 01:17:04.319
motivation and so forth. And when you have gone in

1485
01:17:04.439 --> 01:17:09.119
your life, those qualities tend to blossom more rapidly and

1486
01:17:09.199 --> 01:17:15.520
more dramatically, and so there's greater drive, greater creativity. And

1487
01:17:15.920 --> 01:17:19.960
that's why America grew so rapidly from its you know,

1488
01:17:20.159 --> 01:17:25.239
early colonial days, because the American people were largely Christian

1489
01:17:25.319 --> 01:17:27.720
and they were highly motivated.

1490
01:17:27.800 --> 01:17:31.199
Right exactly. Well, the thing is I don't know if

1491
01:17:31.199 --> 01:17:34.239
you saw this or not, Scott, two weeks ago, Bible

1492
01:17:34.319 --> 01:17:38.800
sales skyrocketing by what something like that.

1493
01:17:39.359 --> 01:17:41.840
So you know in the Bible, by the way, the

1494
01:17:41.840 --> 01:17:44.239
Bible is already number one in sales last year.

1495
01:17:44.520 --> 01:17:47.800
Yeah, right, oh, every year, every year it's always number

1496
01:17:47.800 --> 01:17:50.079
one book. But all of a sudden as a result,

1497
01:17:50.159 --> 01:17:52.760
I believe you know this is you can call it

1498
01:17:52.800 --> 01:17:55.439
the Charlie Kirk factor. You've got a lot of people going, hey,

1499
01:17:55.520 --> 01:17:57.159
I'm gonna check this out, you know, let me, let

1500
01:17:57.199 --> 01:18:00.880
me find out what's going on here. And but again

1501
01:18:02.479 --> 01:18:06.479
I would caution people, because you're laying out here, look

1502
01:18:06.520 --> 01:18:10.560
at good and evil coexists sweet centers. Okay, whenever there

1503
01:18:10.800 --> 01:18:13.399
you look back historically, whenever there was a revival or

1504
01:18:13.399 --> 01:18:17.319
an awakening, guess what, you also had the opposite going on? Yes, right,

1505
01:18:17.600 --> 01:18:19.920
I mean you know you had the Jesus movement going

1506
01:18:19.960 --> 01:18:22.720
on in southern California in the seventies, right, well, you

1507
01:18:22.840 --> 01:18:25.640
had the hippies and free love and sex and woodstock

1508
01:18:25.720 --> 01:18:29.279
in the east and all this craziness going on as

1509
01:18:29.319 --> 01:18:34.880
a parallel. Okay, So that's good and evil there before you.

1510
01:18:35.279 --> 01:18:38.960
So you need to be wise enough to choose what

1511
01:18:39.239 --> 01:18:41.800
road you want to be on. And the Bible is

1512
01:18:42.199 --> 01:18:46.800
the perfect guide to remind you because we read and

1513
01:18:47.119 --> 01:18:50.520
we also see experientially. Scott is that the fear of

1514
01:18:50.600 --> 01:18:53.359
God is the beginning of wisdom. Do you want to

1515
01:18:53.399 --> 01:18:54.960
be wise or do you want to be stupid?

1516
01:18:56.279 --> 01:18:56.439
Right?

1517
01:18:56.800 --> 01:18:57.479
I'm with you, man.

1518
01:18:58.680 --> 01:19:02.000
So as a car to these young people who are

1519
01:19:02.000 --> 01:19:04.600
picking up the Bible, look, take it a little.

1520
01:19:04.439 --> 01:19:04.840
Bit of time.

1521
01:19:04.880 --> 01:19:06.960
I mean when I did some work with Billy Graham

1522
01:19:07.000 --> 01:19:11.960
Association Evangelistic Association, the book that we focused on was

1523
01:19:11.960 --> 01:19:14.560
the Book of John. Yes, read the Book of John.

1524
01:19:15.119 --> 01:19:18.199
Just take it a little bit at a time. Understand

1525
01:19:18.279 --> 01:19:23.079
that number one, number two, it's a personal relationship. Okay,

1526
01:19:23.399 --> 01:19:28.359
find a god fearing, God believing, Bible believing church and

1527
01:19:28.520 --> 01:19:32.359
group that you know that you can enter into the congregation,

1528
01:19:32.920 --> 01:19:36.039
be of like minded and it's not you just don't

1529
01:19:36.079 --> 01:19:38.560
go and check any You've got to be discerning and

1530
01:19:38.640 --> 01:19:41.399
find a place because there are a lot of unfortunately

1531
01:19:41.840 --> 01:19:44.439
in this era again we talk weeks and terrors. Well,

1532
01:19:44.479 --> 01:19:47.159
the church is not immune from that. The church is

1533
01:19:47.239 --> 01:19:51.199
being invaded by evil and so you need to be

1534
01:19:51.439 --> 01:19:55.159
wise at where you plant your Bible and you plant

1535
01:19:55.640 --> 01:19:59.560
your spiritual seed. So and do not get discouraged because

1536
01:19:59.600 --> 01:20:02.439
God will lead you as long as you continue to

1537
01:20:02.520 --> 01:20:05.119
be earnest in your pursuit of truth and righteousness.

1538
01:20:05.239 --> 01:20:10.479
Right, yes, absolutely, absolutely. And the wonderful thing about you know,

1539
01:20:10.640 --> 01:20:14.439
finding groups, be it a church, a large group, or

1540
01:20:14.560 --> 01:20:19.680
a small Bible study group, is that it's very open.

1541
01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:22.520
You are welcomed, right And.

1542
01:20:24.119 --> 01:20:28.000
You know, I strongly encourage people that say leaving. You know,

1543
01:20:28.199 --> 01:20:32.760
my daughter is in a Christian high school, and so

1544
01:20:33.079 --> 01:20:34.920
I know a lot of her friends. My advice to

1545
01:20:35.039 --> 01:20:37.079
all of them is that when you go to college,

1546
01:20:38.279 --> 01:20:39.520
you're going to make new friends.

1547
01:20:40.199 --> 01:20:41.159
Well, the place that you.

1548
01:20:41.239 --> 01:20:45.279
Want to make new friends is among Christians. Yes, so

1549
01:20:45.560 --> 01:20:49.239
search out the Christian associations, of the clubs and so forth.

1550
01:20:49.359 --> 01:20:52.960
And visit each one of them, and and you will.

1551
01:20:53.640 --> 01:20:56.079
You will find people that you connect with, that you

1552
01:20:56.399 --> 01:20:59.079
like that will become the new basis, new foundation of

1553
01:20:59.159 --> 01:21:02.640
your friendships. Because we need to we need to protect

1554
01:21:02.720 --> 01:21:08.039
each other exactly. You know, in a world that's highly secularized.

1555
01:21:07.600 --> 01:21:10.439
Right, and you need to be around people that understand

1556
01:21:12.319 --> 01:21:16.840
who you are, your identity and who you are, Okay,

1557
01:21:17.479 --> 01:21:20.760
that you belong to God and that you're absolutely precious.

1558
01:21:21.079 --> 01:21:21.359
Scott.

1559
01:21:21.399 --> 01:21:25.239
I was just reading some information, checking data because I

1560
01:21:25.279 --> 01:21:27.399
had a question about you know, a lot of parents

1561
01:21:27.439 --> 01:21:30.119
are sending their kids to colleges with the hope of

1562
01:21:30.199 --> 01:21:34.279
them being educated and stuff like that, and unfortunately, part

1563
01:21:34.319 --> 01:21:37.920
of the college experience is the hookup culture. So if

1564
01:21:37.960 --> 01:21:40.279
you don't go into this with your eyes wide open,

1565
01:21:40.720 --> 01:21:43.840
and especially a father, I can't even you know, as fathers,

1566
01:21:44.199 --> 01:21:47.239
we protect particularly our daughters. Yes we protect our sons

1567
01:21:47.239 --> 01:21:49.279
as well, but particularly our daughters.

1568
01:21:49.720 --> 01:21:50.359
And here we are.

1569
01:21:50.720 --> 01:21:53.640
We send them to college. You know, we may even

1570
01:21:53.680 --> 01:21:55.640
take a second mortgage on the house in order to

1571
01:21:55.760 --> 01:21:59.159
do so, and we throw them into this den of iniquity,

1572
01:22:00.079 --> 01:22:02.680
and you know where where there's a lot of pressure.

1573
01:22:03.119 --> 01:22:07.720
I mean, the amount of pregnancy that happens in college

1574
01:22:08.159 --> 01:22:12.600
and the sexual experience, how that is increased, and uh

1575
01:22:13.000 --> 01:22:15.880
is very dangerous, you know, for these young girls that

1576
01:22:16.000 --> 01:22:18.119
we've loved and protect and walked them through the life

1577
01:22:18.319 --> 01:22:20.760
and turned them over to the universities to say, hey,

1578
01:22:20.840 --> 01:22:23.640
I love my daughter, protect my daughter, honor her, and

1579
01:22:23.760 --> 01:22:25.119
then some of them could care less.

1580
01:22:26.279 --> 01:22:28.760
Well, it's it's it's just a it's a reflection on

1581
01:22:28.880 --> 01:22:32.439
the cultural decline is we've we've been in but I

1582
01:22:32.479 --> 01:22:36.359
think we've we've we've hit bottom and I think we're on,

1583
01:22:37.399 --> 01:22:40.560
you know, on the upswing now. And remember the upswing

1584
01:22:40.640 --> 01:22:46.000
can happen fairly rapidly, you know, particularly with with a

1585
01:22:46.079 --> 01:22:49.640
spiritual revival. And and I think that just as a

1586
01:22:49.760 --> 01:22:53.640
revival was necessary for the birthing of America, you know,

1587
01:22:53.720 --> 01:22:58.640
the Americans, the colonial army had no hope or possibility

1588
01:22:58.680 --> 01:23:01.039
of defeating the greatest military power in the world.

1589
01:23:01.479 --> 01:23:01.720
None.

1590
01:23:02.119 --> 01:23:06.479
It was an impossible challenge. But what happened was that

1591
01:23:06.560 --> 01:23:09.560
there was a huge spiritual revival in America called the

1592
01:23:09.680 --> 01:23:13.479
Great Awakening that took place between seventeen thirty and seventeen fifty.

1593
01:23:14.119 --> 01:23:17.800
Where they were the disparate, separate thirteen colonies began to

1594
01:23:17.840 --> 01:23:21.279
get connected with each other by the same belief.

1595
01:23:21.560 --> 01:23:24.680
That they were going to be called, you know, to.

1596
01:23:24.760 --> 01:23:26.119
Fight for Christian liberty.

1597
01:23:26.840 --> 01:23:27.039
Yeah.

1598
01:23:27.720 --> 01:23:28.079
Freedom.

1599
01:23:28.760 --> 01:23:32.840
It was huge, just brought the people together and created a.

1600
01:23:34.800 --> 01:23:38.960
Transformation of people who enlisted, they weren't they weren't They

1601
01:23:39.199 --> 01:23:43.720
oftentimes were not paid. And the church was a source

1602
01:23:43.800 --> 01:23:47.640
of many of these great patriot soldiers. You know, there

1603
01:23:47.680 --> 01:23:52.239
were pastors who took off their Robe and led their

1604
01:23:52.399 --> 01:23:55.079
men in the congregation out of the church to join

1605
01:23:55.199 --> 01:23:56.279
the Patriot cause.

1606
01:23:56.600 --> 01:23:58.960
Yeah, the Black Robe Regiment. Yeah, exactly.

1607
01:23:59.359 --> 01:23:59.560
Yeah.

1608
01:24:00.079 --> 01:24:03.079
Thing is God. I maintained that people did not know

1609
01:24:03.399 --> 01:24:05.520
had it not been for the Great Awakening, they would

1610
01:24:05.560 --> 01:24:08.479
not have had an appreciation for freedom and where it

1611
01:24:08.560 --> 01:24:08.960
came from.

1612
01:24:09.520 --> 01:24:10.560
That's right, that's right.

1613
01:24:10.960 --> 01:24:14.199
So we're having I believe that we're in the midst

1614
01:24:14.239 --> 01:24:17.640
of a spiritual revival right now. It's pockets here and there,

1615
01:24:17.720 --> 01:24:22.039
but I think it'll become more widespread. And you know,

1616
01:24:23.039 --> 01:24:25.119
God is a god of miracles. If God can open

1617
01:24:25.199 --> 01:24:28.720
the Red Sea to save the Israelites from the Pharaoh

1618
01:24:28.760 --> 01:24:32.640
and his army, he certainly can do a lot to

1619
01:24:33.359 --> 01:24:37.479
you know, protect and and open the wave for us

1620
01:24:38.079 --> 01:24:40.000
to recover our great nation.

1621
01:24:40.520 --> 01:24:43.039
Exactly. Well, you're I'm glad you said that, Scott, because

1622
01:24:43.079 --> 01:24:45.560
the thing is is that the answer lies in Heaven,

1623
01:24:46.000 --> 01:24:46.840
not here on earth.

1624
01:24:47.239 --> 01:24:47.520
Okay.

1625
01:24:48.119 --> 01:24:51.720
And so if you're looking to the government to make

1626
01:24:51.800 --> 01:24:55.760
sure your stat money is in or whatever entitlement that

1627
01:24:55.960 --> 01:24:59.199
you feel you deserve, instead of looking to God, this

1628
01:24:59.359 --> 01:25:01.920
is the opportunity to turn to God and see that

1629
01:25:02.079 --> 01:25:04.960
God is the answer to all these evils and all

1630
01:25:05.039 --> 01:25:07.319
these things that we're battling right now, and then we

1631
01:25:07.399 --> 01:25:09.920
can count on him. Just as you said, Hey, Israel

1632
01:25:10.000 --> 01:25:12.359
learned that they could count on God, and he showed

1633
01:25:12.439 --> 01:25:15.319
him right off the bat. First of all, he judged

1634
01:25:15.439 --> 01:25:19.279
all the ten gods of Egypt, he frees them out

1635
01:25:19.319 --> 01:25:21.920
of Egypt, and he parts the Red Sea. How's that

1636
01:25:22.039 --> 01:25:22.640
for an opening?

1637
01:25:22.760 --> 01:25:22.960
Huh?

1638
01:25:24.039 --> 01:25:28.600
It's dramatic, without a doubt. And you know what, God

1639
01:25:28.720 --> 01:25:31.880
is still parting Red seas to your point.

1640
01:25:31.880 --> 01:25:33.439
Oh, absolutely absolutely.

1641
01:25:33.560 --> 01:25:37.600
But we as Americans have to drive, you know, we're

1642
01:25:37.640 --> 01:25:40.399
in the driver's seat. And it doesn't it doesn't mean

1643
01:25:40.479 --> 01:25:45.600
that we you know, we're going to have let's say,

1644
01:25:45.640 --> 01:25:50.920
a majority influence. But you know, as Gideon's army was

1645
01:25:51.039 --> 01:25:54.319
narrowed down, it got narrowed down, and then God used

1646
01:25:54.359 --> 01:25:56.760
them to defeat the enemy when they had fewer.

1647
01:25:57.279 --> 01:26:00.880
From thousands or three hundred, right exactly, because they want

1648
01:26:00.920 --> 01:26:02.079
a dedicated people.

1649
01:26:02.199 --> 01:26:05.479
So we're in that process and I believe we're going

1650
01:26:05.560 --> 01:26:06.920
to see remarkable things happen.

1651
01:26:07.279 --> 01:26:09.960
Good times ahead, no doubt about is Scott Powell, thank

1652
01:26:10.000 --> 01:26:11.680
you so much for being with us. He's a senior

1653
01:26:11.760 --> 01:26:14.520
fellow at the Discovery Institute. Make sure you check out

1654
01:26:14.640 --> 01:26:20.119
his latest article, No Substitute for Defeating Evil and Restoring

1655
01:26:20.239 --> 01:26:25.119
American Greatness, and that is featured right now at what

1656
01:26:25.319 --> 01:26:26.560
Is It Not All?

1657
01:26:27.079 --> 01:26:30.199
It's in town Hall, to be published in American Thinker

1658
01:26:30.279 --> 01:26:32.319
and perhaps a few other places. News Max will probably

1659
01:26:32.319 --> 01:26:33.680
publish it exactly.

1660
01:26:33.960 --> 01:26:36.000
Check it out. Thank you, Scott, take care of Hey,

1661
01:26:36.039 --> 01:26:36.560
God bless you.

1662
01:26:36.840 --> 01:26:37.079
Thank you.

1663
01:26:38.399 --> 01:26:42.119
Everything is expensive right now, gas, food, you name it.

1664
01:26:42.439 --> 01:26:45.920
You're spending more, you are making the same or less money.

1665
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for Patriots, welcome back.

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Glad you could join us. I'm Poel Martinez. We've got

1735
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John hadn't going to be joining us in just a

1736
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few moments here to talk about the enrollment season that

1737
01:30:57.640 --> 01:31:01.760
is upon us. So he's got all the details because

1738
01:31:02.039 --> 01:31:06.359
navigating open season unprecedented times. John is an expert to

1739
01:31:06.439 --> 01:31:09.439
break down the health benefit plans for active and retired

1740
01:31:09.479 --> 01:31:13.680
federal employees. In fact, double digit health premium increases hit

1741
01:31:13.760 --> 01:31:17.199
federal workers for the second year in a row, and

1742
01:31:17.359 --> 01:31:20.840
the twenty twenty six open season for active and retire

1743
01:31:20.960 --> 01:31:25.439
federal employees is now well actually starts November tenth through

1744
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December the eighth of this year. The twenty twenty six

1745
01:31:28.920 --> 01:31:32.279
Federal Employees Health Benefits open season, as I mentioned, gets

1746
01:31:32.359 --> 01:31:34.960
underway on November the tenth, and it provides active and

1747
01:31:35.079 --> 01:31:39.640
retired federal employees a limited opportunity to review and update

1748
01:31:39.760 --> 01:31:44.119
their health, dental, vision, and flexible spending account benefits. While

1749
01:31:44.199 --> 01:31:48.279
reviewing options is a critical step in ensuring coverage meets

1750
01:31:48.359 --> 01:31:52.319
individual needs, a survey by the National Active and Retired

1751
01:31:52.399 --> 01:31:57.960
Federal Employees Association that's NARFE shows that many active and

1752
01:31:58.119 --> 01:32:03.279
retired employees could use guidance, reporting that choosing a healthcare

1753
01:32:03.399 --> 01:32:08.199
plan can feel more complex than creating a will, reading Shakespeare,

1754
01:32:08.319 --> 01:32:10.920
or learning a new language, or even navigating a divorce.

1755
01:32:11.239 --> 01:32:13.399
As I mentioned, John Hatton is with us right now

1756
01:32:13.520 --> 01:32:16.039
to break it all down. John, welcome the show. Good

1757
01:32:16.079 --> 01:32:16.720
to have you with us.

1758
01:32:17.760 --> 01:32:18.600
Thank you for having me.

1759
01:32:19.199 --> 01:32:22.439
Well. I like that it says that you know, navigating

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01:32:22.479 --> 01:32:25.239
this stuff. It would be better for me to you know,

1761
01:32:25.600 --> 01:32:30.159
read read Shakespeare, create a will, or maybe even you know,

1762
01:32:30.359 --> 01:32:31.880
learn Greek or something, right.

1763
01:32:32.720 --> 01:32:37.119
Yeah, yeah, it's and that's kind of why less than

1764
01:32:37.199 --> 01:32:41.560
five percent of people change plans each year, and you know,

1765
01:32:41.840 --> 01:32:44.720
more than eighty percent say they're content with their plans.

1766
01:32:44.920 --> 01:32:48.000
But I think with these double digit premium increases two

1767
01:32:48.119 --> 01:32:51.319
years in a row, people aren't very content with the premiums.

1768
01:32:51.920 --> 01:32:55.239
And so why aren't people changing plans? It's because it's complex.

1769
01:32:55.319 --> 01:32:57.279
We try to simplify it for people so we have

1770
01:32:57.399 --> 01:32:59.119
the guidance can make the choices they need.

1771
01:33:00.039 --> 01:33:01.840
Well, you got to imagine, John, here's looking. I mean,

1772
01:33:01.880 --> 01:33:03.960
you're you're deep in this and you understand all the

1773
01:33:04.039 --> 01:33:06.760
nuances and that, which is critical and what makes you

1774
01:33:06.840 --> 01:33:10.439
so important in your position. But it's you know, you're

1775
01:33:10.439 --> 01:33:14.239
going to have changes over ten years, that and benefits

1776
01:33:14.279 --> 01:33:17.199
that people have just you know, let go by the

1777
01:33:17.239 --> 01:33:21.119
wayside because they just didn't take the time to understand

1778
01:33:21.199 --> 01:33:21.960
what was available.

1779
01:33:22.079 --> 01:33:26.800
Right, absolutely, And so if you don't change your plan

1780
01:33:27.000 --> 01:33:30.279
year after year after year, and the plan changes a

1781
01:33:30.319 --> 01:33:32.279
little bit year to year to year to year, and

1782
01:33:32.640 --> 01:33:35.279
the premiums go up a bunch year to year and

1783
01:33:35.359 --> 01:33:37.920
particularly more now, you're going to be less in a

1784
01:33:38.000 --> 01:33:41.399
much different situation than when you first signed up. And

1785
01:33:41.520 --> 01:33:44.640
so if you don't take that opportunity each year, and

1786
01:33:44.760 --> 01:33:47.720
particularly this year with these premium increases, to make a choice,

1787
01:33:47.880 --> 01:33:50.680
you're leaving thousands of dollars on the table. I mean,

1788
01:33:50.760 --> 01:33:54.000
now you can take two similar loadeductible plans and self

1789
01:33:54.039 --> 01:33:56.640
and family premium is five hundred dollars difference a month,

1790
01:33:57.119 --> 01:33:59.159
which is you know, thousands of dollars in a.

1791
01:33:59.199 --> 01:34:03.800
Year, exactly. Yeah, I mean that's a car payment, you know.

1792
01:34:04.079 --> 01:34:07.640
Yeah, it's a vacation, it's it's a lot of things

1793
01:34:07.680 --> 01:34:10.399
for people. I don't know anybody who would want, you know,

1794
01:34:10.600 --> 01:34:12.880
an extra five six thousand dollars in their pocket of

1795
01:34:12.920 --> 01:34:13.600
the course of the year.

1796
01:34:14.159 --> 01:34:17.439
Right, So clearly it's important for enrollees to reassess their

1797
01:34:17.479 --> 01:34:21.239
healthcare plans this year. And as you recommend this should

1798
01:34:21.319 --> 01:34:23.600
just you know, we should market on the calendar and

1799
01:34:23.680 --> 01:34:25.960
know that we're going to redo this every year because

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01:34:26.319 --> 01:34:27.479
things change, right.

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01:34:28.600 --> 01:34:31.239
Yeah, they change year to year. And you know, the

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01:34:31.680 --> 01:34:35.199
program requires a you know, degree of comprehensive benefits from

1803
01:34:35.239 --> 01:34:38.119
one plan to the next, which is the good news,

1804
01:34:38.319 --> 01:34:40.760
Like you have a kind of the safety net of

1805
01:34:40.800 --> 01:34:43.800
the of the minimum coverage that this program requires. And

1806
01:34:43.840 --> 01:34:45.479
then you have a lot of different plan options to

1807
01:34:45.560 --> 01:34:49.479
choose from, and so you know you want to take

1808
01:34:49.520 --> 01:34:51.880
a look though as your plan change, is it meeting

1809
01:34:51.960 --> 01:34:58.079
your health needs, house your personal financial situation changed, and

1810
01:34:58.439 --> 01:35:00.560
we walk you through the stuff by SEP to take

1811
01:35:00.600 --> 01:35:04.079
that complex decision and make it simple. You know, we

1812
01:35:04.159 --> 01:35:06.520
have these webinars where we have the best experts being

1813
01:35:06.600 --> 01:35:10.119
able to tell you how do you choose, how to

1814
01:35:10.199 --> 01:35:12.920
choose the plan right? And so we want to make

1815
01:35:12.920 --> 01:35:15.600
sure healthcare is a very important decision. You want to

1816
01:35:15.640 --> 01:35:19.159
make sure when you need the care, you have it exactly.

1817
01:35:19.279 --> 01:35:22.760
And so knowing that and you know, not being afraid

1818
01:35:23.239 --> 01:35:25.239
and having the confidence and make the decisions and not

1819
01:35:25.319 --> 01:35:28.399
being so afraid to make a mistake, you need information

1820
01:35:28.520 --> 01:35:29.359
and education.

1821
01:35:29.159 --> 01:35:30.560
To do that exactly.

1822
01:35:30.800 --> 01:35:33.359
Well. John Hatton is a staff vice president in Policy

1823
01:35:33.439 --> 01:35:38.039
and Programs at NARFE. He's held that posient were you've

1824
01:35:38.039 --> 01:35:41.560
been there what since twenty ten, so he has.

1825
01:35:41.720 --> 01:35:46.520
Been different positions, different different different parts. But yeah, fifteen years,

1826
01:35:46.600 --> 01:35:47.840
it's been a good, good time.

1827
01:35:48.279 --> 01:35:51.520
Well that's a great run. And you've directed the association's

1828
01:35:51.560 --> 01:35:57.159
public policy activities, leading NARF's advocacy to defend and advance

1829
01:35:57.199 --> 01:36:01.800
the earned rights and benefits of america'sive and retired federal workers.

1830
01:36:02.000 --> 01:36:04.199
It's always good to know, John, that you have somebody

1831
01:36:04.319 --> 01:36:06.960
that's advocating and is on your side. So thank you

1832
01:36:07.079 --> 01:36:08.520
for all the great work that you and the staff

1833
01:36:08.560 --> 01:36:10.319
are doing on behalf of federal employees.

1834
01:36:11.960 --> 01:36:12.279
Thank you.

1835
01:36:12.640 --> 01:36:16.159
I appreciate that, and I think you know we need

1836
01:36:16.239 --> 01:36:20.680
people to come together as groups and organize in the

1837
01:36:20.760 --> 01:36:23.199
face of different threats, and we've faced a lot this year.

1838
01:36:24.319 --> 01:36:27.800
We saw legislative threats to those federal benefits that people

1839
01:36:27.840 --> 01:36:30.560
have earned over long careers, and luckily we're successful and

1840
01:36:31.039 --> 01:36:33.159
blocking a lot of those from being passed into law.

1841
01:36:33.920 --> 01:36:36.600
But for current federal employees, they've been dealing with a

1842
01:36:36.760 --> 01:36:42.000
very chaotic environment with large scale reductions and force potential politicization.

1843
01:36:42.359 --> 01:36:46.079
And we just here to provide a voice and provide

1844
01:36:46.119 --> 01:36:50.159
resources and support in times of need. And we can't

1845
01:36:50.199 --> 01:36:53.000
do that unless there's a group of people binding together

1846
01:36:53.159 --> 01:36:55.159
with us as part of an organization.

1847
01:36:56.359 --> 01:36:56.720
To do that.

1848
01:36:57.840 --> 01:36:59.560
Well, not to make this into a political deal, but

1849
01:36:59.640 --> 01:37:01.119
only because as you mentioned, I wish we'd get the

1850
01:37:01.159 --> 01:37:03.399
politics out of it. I think we can have reasonable

1851
01:37:03.520 --> 01:37:05.960
people come together with all the assets that are available

1852
01:37:06.000 --> 01:37:08.880
here in this great country of ours, people included. I

1853
01:37:09.039 --> 01:37:14.279
believe that we can come to a decision that benefits

1854
01:37:14.319 --> 01:37:20.439
to everybody, that reflects America's values, and that can provide

1855
01:37:20.600 --> 01:37:23.720
what I say, the gold standard, you know, for health

1856
01:37:24.079 --> 01:37:28.239
care and retirement benefits. And I believe that we can

1857
01:37:28.319 --> 01:37:31.560
do that this a lot more efficiently. It's just unfortunate

1858
01:37:31.680 --> 01:37:34.760
that we get impediments in the way, and maybe through

1859
01:37:34.840 --> 01:37:37.680
some of this pain, John, I'm with you. I'm with

1860
01:37:37.800 --> 01:37:40.439
you on this that we can champion a cause that

1861
01:37:40.880 --> 01:37:42.600
can be something that we can be proud of that

1862
01:37:42.920 --> 01:37:44.640
is going to save everybody a lot of money. I

1863
01:37:44.680 --> 01:37:46.640
believe it's there and we can find it if we

1864
01:37:46.760 --> 01:37:47.399
work hard enough.

1865
01:37:48.960 --> 01:37:49.880
I agree with you there.

1866
01:37:50.039 --> 01:37:53.079
You know, our members come from both different political parties.

1867
01:37:53.119 --> 01:37:55.159
They want to see people working together. They hate when

1868
01:37:55.199 --> 01:37:59.760
there's a shutdown due to political dysfunction, and there's been

1869
01:37:59.800 --> 01:38:03.319
more of that recently. So we always encourage people to

1870
01:38:03.399 --> 01:38:07.039
work together bipartisan basis. And you know, our healthcare system,

1871
01:38:08.720 --> 01:38:11.800
you know, these premium increases are a result of the

1872
01:38:11.880 --> 01:38:14.119
healthcare system that I think needs improvement. That a lot

1873
01:38:14.119 --> 01:38:18.199
of people recognize that improvement needs to be made, but

1874
01:38:18.279 --> 01:38:19.479
there's not always agreement on.

1875
01:38:19.560 --> 01:38:20.520
Exactly how to do it.

1876
01:38:20.760 --> 01:38:23.720
But that's kind of where we need our leaders to

1877
01:38:23.760 --> 01:38:27.439
come together and find compromise and look at some real

1878
01:38:27.560 --> 01:38:31.039
world improvements to how we keep these costs down because exactly,

1879
01:38:31.239 --> 01:38:33.199
it can't go on like this year after year.

1880
01:38:33.640 --> 01:38:36.800
Right, Well, we've always been successful historically when both sides

1881
01:38:36.840 --> 01:38:39.359
are involved. You can't have one over the other. That

1882
01:38:39.479 --> 01:38:41.920
you're exactly right, and I agree with the membership is

1883
01:38:41.960 --> 01:38:44.720
that we've got to come together and find the right

1884
01:38:44.840 --> 01:38:48.840
solutions that win win for everybody. John, what key changes

1885
01:38:48.880 --> 01:38:52.319
and benefits are available this open season specifically that federal

1886
01:38:52.399 --> 01:38:55.279
employees and retirees should be aware.

1887
01:38:55.000 --> 01:39:02.000
Of well comprehensibly the program. Why there's not too many

1888
01:39:02.479 --> 01:39:07.359
significant changes. There's some required coverage of medications like prep

1889
01:39:07.479 --> 01:39:13.800
medications for HIV treatment, some additional guidance on IVF treatments

1890
01:39:13.840 --> 01:39:17.880
that carries over from expansion of those last year. So

1891
01:39:19.279 --> 01:39:22.800
you know, the program kind of puts the minimum requirements

1892
01:39:23.319 --> 01:39:26.640
out there, and then there's negotiations with the plans. But

1893
01:39:26.720 --> 01:39:29.720
where we do see changes is at that plan level

1894
01:39:29.840 --> 01:39:32.039
where people really need to investigate how that's going to

1895
01:39:32.079 --> 01:39:34.840
impact them individually. We've seen a little bit on the

1896
01:39:34.880 --> 01:39:39.520
postal side of things with changes in reiinborsement for Medicare premiums.

1897
01:39:40.640 --> 01:39:42.840
One other kind of change.

1898
01:39:42.560 --> 01:39:43.359
That's happened in.

1899
01:39:45.000 --> 01:39:49.039
Through the legislative path is access to health savings accounts.

1900
01:39:49.079 --> 01:39:51.239
If you just have Medicare part ay, that may impact

1901
01:39:51.279 --> 01:39:54.159
some retirees. So we try to walk through all these

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Is that right, that's correct.

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This is a key time for you to access all

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know that we think our members say is the top

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Johnhattan, staff Vice President Policy and Programs at NARF, Thank

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you John for being with us. Take care, stay healthy.

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Bill Martinez here with Jeff Camp, the former nfl QB

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and ministry leader and author. Hey, Jeff, good morning to you.

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Good morning Bill. How's it going.

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Hey, it's gone great. Good to have you here. Picking

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up from our conversation that we started last week in

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terms of the importance of identity and how that needs

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to be stressed with our young daughters so that when

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they go on to life, that they they don't think

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less of themselves and you know, fall into the traps

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of the culture that says, hey, it's okay to have

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premarital sex, get pregnant, have an abortion, that somehow that's

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some sort of you know, phase of life that we

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must go through. And even for the young boys as well,

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that they need to step up and claim their responsibility,

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their God given right and responsibility to protect the daughters,

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to protect the young women, the future wives, right, right.

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And a lot of it goes back to if you've

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got the security of knowing who you are, you don't

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need to validate yourself by conquering women consuming from another

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person in sexual relationships, and you don't need to make

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yourself vulnerable to pregnancy and all that goes with sexual

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activity outside of marriage. I know it's a very sexual age.

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Morality is kind of shifted, and sometimes morality was stunted

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in the past. You know, true morality is tied to

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the character of Jesus, which is love. And love is

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doing what's best for another person at a price to yourself.

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That's what's saving your sexual relationship.

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Till marriage is.

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But once you're in marriage, gosh, you keep learning how

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to love that person better and better a year exactly.

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We're at a wedding this weekend in California, and the

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toast by the best man was brilliant. He said, you've

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been engaged now for ten months, and engagement's over now

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you're married.

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And he said, but engagement's actually a very good word.

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In fact, your marriage is permission to keep being engaged.

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And he reminded all of.

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Us married couples, be engaged, keep talking, keep learning, keep growing,

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keep dating, keep kindness is going that you practiced in

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the engagement. Don't just take it for granted once you're there.

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And part of the challenge that relationship researchers have found

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is that when people bring the sexual component onto the

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front end of their relationship and they bond through the

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excitement and the thrill and the pleasure of sex. They

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miss out on building the depth of the friendship right,

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which is the best anchor for a marriage. Not to mention,

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there's a trust factor that when you give yourself to

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someone you're committed to only with your body, but maybe

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not completely with your relationship, then there's a doubt in

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the back of your mind. And that's one of the

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real big keys is true commitment is not just the

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sexual commitment, it's all of you. You wonder when there's

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a sexual commitment before the marriage covenant, is it going

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to stay that way forever?

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And the proof is in the pudding.

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The research shows that the people with more partners have

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less fulfilling marriages and have a divorce rate that's higher.

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But every one of us needs to remember your.

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Security comes from a relationship with God, not from how

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another person validates you.

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And that was the point you made at the beginning.

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Well, the Song of Solomon reminds us it's a constant

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refrain about not waking up love before it's time. That

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there is a process that God has ordained, and when

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we follow God's process, it goes better for us. Now,

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you and I you know we're talking about this, and

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we're not claiming that we're without sin and we've been

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perfect all the way. We definitely, we definitely have made

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our mistakes. So I pray and hope that when people

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are hearing us talk here, we're talking experientially. We have

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violated God's command, we have made our mistakes, and out

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of that, it's given us wisdom and insight, and we're

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sharing that vulnerably with our audience so that they don't

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have to fall in the pitfalls that we have fallen into,

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that they would be part of a new generation that

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would honor God earlier than later.

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Yeah, and you know, if it's a young person, I

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think that's so you just spoke to and said, hey,

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we'ren't coming to you as holier than now. Oh, we

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have our faults, our weaknesses, we've made our compromises, but

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we've learned the wisdom of God's ways right and we

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want to pass on. But if many of your listeners

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are parents, we like us of twenties. You know, at

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nineteen year olds, eighteen year olds, twenty five year olds,

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we're not here to preach at them. No, we're here

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to say we want the best for you. And you know,

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some of us is aspirational, you know, you know, live

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up to standards perfectly. But I think we need to

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talk about what leads to the greatest outcomes and what

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protects a young lady's heart and what protects a young

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man's character. It's to be noble and honorable in the

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way you treat the women that you date, right the

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woman you think you may marry. God's ways work out best.

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And what really helped me is I remember back in

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college I kind of thought, oh, yeah, God's good, but

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his ways might not be as fun as what I

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could come up with on my own.

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And you know what that is, so dumb, so stupid.

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God invented fun, God invented joy, God invented pleasure. He

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just has an order and a sequence which goes back

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to what did you say, don't awaken love before season

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from the pansiases.

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Well, it's from the song of Solomon.

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Okay, song song yeah, yeah, yeah, same author, same author, exactly.

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Yeah, But that's the deal. You know, God has given

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us order that when we follow his order, he wants

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everything to go well for us. And you know, and

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and talking about again just looking at it from our daughters,

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And of course this applies to our sons as well,

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but particularly fathers with daughters. We're so protective about our daughters.

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And here we are and you and I touched on

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this last week, is that we have to be mindful

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of the situations that we put them in and we

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allow them to go into. We talked specifically last week

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about sending our young daughters to UH to these universities

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that are dens of iniquity, that are just hook up universities.

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I mean, it's like, really, I mean, you know, one

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in five girls in college are getting pregnant today, Jeff,

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I mean, and that's just ones that getting pregnant. That's

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not talking about the level of activity, sexual activity that

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happens on a canvas in a hookup culture, and that

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is there, and we're just, you know, we're spending you know,

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we're taking out a second mortgage on our household to

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send our kids to these schools. And what are we

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doing to these kids?

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There is a lot of date rape, a lot of

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drunkenness and drugs, and sometimes it turns into abusive situations.

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I really believe in the principle of inoculating our children

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01:52:31.920 --> 01:52:35.079
versus incubating them. In many cases, it might be the

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01:52:35.119 --> 01:52:37.560
best choice not to spend all the money and send

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them off to university where the culture is so dramatically

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different than what they've been comfortable with in the past.

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In other cases, hey, they are qualified for that education,

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maybe the best thing for them. But have we inoculated

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them with a worldview, with their value, their identity, tested

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their moral code, asked them questions, help them realize how

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important is to make two or three quality friends if

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they're Christians that are also Christians, have a couple of

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mentors in their life.

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And if they have those things and go off to

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you know, Harvard or Yale or Dartmouth or.

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UCLA or whatever the school is, they may be fine

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and they may be a positive influence. You know, all

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of America is more secular than it used to be.

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Oh God, you bring up the point. Don't naively just

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send a kid off to college if they aren't ready

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for the environment, They could very much take them down

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a much different negative path than they wanted. So we

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need to ask questions, educate talk, have them think through

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who is your social circle going to be?

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What's the behavior like at that place?

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Yeah, and for the young men. Your responsibility is clearly

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noted as well. God has designed you to be a protector.

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That's your natural instinct. And maybe you're the one that

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stands in the gap that sees a young girl, you know,

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becoming vulnerable and saves her from some bad choices down

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the road. And all this is about encouragement, encouraging young girls,

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encouraging young boys to step up to their level of

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responsibility and ordination that God designed within them when He

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put their DNA together in that first hour in their

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mother's womb.

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Jeff, know, the dignity of a human being comes from

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the knowledge that God designed you in your mother's room,

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and God even thought of you before you were conceived.

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And God also forgives you and heals you of your imperfect, fallen, selfish, prideful,

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rebellious behavior in Christ if we receive that, so, if

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you know who He says you are and how much

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He loved you at the price of his son, it

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changes your need to fit into the crowd right now,

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or get the love from this guy, or get the

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love from this girl. I talked to a young man

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who didn't have a help background, a lot of abuse,

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didn't of his dead in his life, and the only

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love he said he ever knew was sexual love. And

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he said, but I never really felt love afterwards, So

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I kept chasing after it because the world is redefined

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love in an inaccurate way. God is the definition of love.

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That doing what's best for another and a price for yourself,

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covenantal commitment right, that builds up the value of someone.

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Marriage does that. Sex outside of marriage doesn't. Partying and

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having pleasure, that's a half life. It's gonna go away

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real quickly. You know, God's God's cool with fun. He's

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cool with a party. But when you lose control of yourself,

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either through alcohol, pot, other drugs, some substance, a sexual

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obsession with someone, an addiction to pornography, boy, the half

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life of that pleasure goes so quick. Soon you're in

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the negative consequences.

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Well, the things of this world clearly are disposable, Je

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kemp and we have to leave it there. Where can

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